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The hope of the poor people of this world , in the name of god, i offer greetings, courtesy and respect to each and every one of my dear and respected viewers, especially for a Debate Program of a higher base and a source of change in the country. This was the emphasis of the leader of the revolution for those with different political, economic and according to him, the culture is talking about transformation when the candidates with the same different views political, economic and cultural entering the Election Campaign of the parliament, sedavasima tried to help the people by asking this question in the election videos of the candidates that the definition of internet taxis should be determined by the companies themselves or by the Competition Council and also about the commissions. The ballot box expresses an issue about which the members of parliament have different views, and in this program , the supporters and opponents of the issue that i presented to you will have a debate together, and i invite you to accompany us until the end. Iranian coach sharaf iran has a telegram the width of the country why is he playing this month . The price of your question is an interesting question. We dont want to be a football manager. We dont agree with any kind of treatment. They are higher. In your opinion, the online taxi market is considered a competitive market or is it a monopoly market, and in your opinion, as you said that you are against the entry of the Competition Council, what is the reason why you say that this council should not enter the taxi and internet market. Regarding the question you asked, see that as it was broadcasted in this introduction, the respected expert also pointed out that a major part of this internet taxi market today is in the hands of two large companies, perhaps. More than ninety percent and it seems that this is one of the examples of unnatural monopoly, but i would like to say here that the Competition Council itself should not be directly involved in determining the tariff. I see and emphasize that in any case there is a law in this case and we must act according to the law, the law must be respected, the original law. 44 in article 59, it says that the Competition Council can appoint a sector regulator for the areas that need a regulator and propose its composition with the approval of its cabinet of ministers. The regulator can set regulations in that area and naturally, the definition that is part of these regulations can be determined by that regulator. In the meantime , he can give the general framework himself, and in this case , i will say in the next discussions that apparently this has happened, that is to say to you that this is an obvious matter, that in any case, when the market is like this, it is now exclusive. Or lets say it is a monopoly. Naturally, if this market is not controlled and monitored by the government, users and consumers will definitely lose , so this monitoring and this control should be done. If there is, i will tell you. In your opinion, what is the loss of the users . In your opinion, the loss of the users is like this. In any case, assume that now in the Traffic Congestion situation , a formula has already been determined for calculation. Now it s time to calculate the distance. I mean that now one area is more crowded because of these factors. It has already been calculated in that formula, so there is no reason for us to add a series of additional factors, or just because the demand there is high, for example , there will be a loss here. In a sense, we must be able to protect the rights of consumers here and defend them. Naturally, there are other cases that if we want to be competitive, this market is like many foreign platforms. It seems that it is only onesided. This formula that is being applied means that only an auction is placed , while many foreign platforms also have tenders , which means that they can do this at a lower rate. A car can accept this order at a lower rate , but we are able to do this. Maybe there is not much exclusive space in the country the title of a tool, along with other means of transportation , but there is another point of view, and according to this , i would like to say that they are doing this, or they are intermediaries between passengers and drivers, in a way, in competition with agencies, if we look at this space. I. I believe that it is a completely exclusive space because, as mr. Doctor pointed out , their number is limited and in competitions with agencies, i think that it is a completely exclusive space, the law says that if there was a place of monopoly, it is the task of the Competition Council to find entry, this is what the law says. Finally, it is obvious that my doctor is pointing they say that the Competition Council does not make any difference to the institution that the Competition Council appoints. In any case, the same Competition Council directly or by itself or the institution that the Competition Council wants to appoint anyway, it does not matter. In any case, this is the issue. This is that we have a reality called internet taxis in the country, which today have become an integral part of the Transportation System in the country , but there is not much space for regulation , they are somehow free, that is, policy regulation according to the various aspects that these can we dont see that much anyway there should be a precise policy in this area. You see, internet taxis can affect various aspects. We cannot only have a onedimensional price view on these. Anyway, see the issue of energy or politics affecting politics. Energy in the country by internet taxis is an undeniable fact. From the point of view of economic analysis, it is an undeniable fact that there is a need for consideration in the discussion of employment and labor. There is a need for consideration in the discussion of transportation. In fact, there are some considerations. We have no small challenges in the field of transportation today. In the same city of tehran, you can see the terrible traffic that exists and many other challenges that we have in the countrys Transportation System. On the other hand, the consumption of energy is increasing day by day in an unbalanced country , in my opinion. Paying attention to the internet taxis, now that it expands more or becomes more limited, any policy in this area will definitely affect all these components, and god willing , we should definitely talk about some of these in this meeting, mr. Taghirpour. Do you agree that how much the government should enter in the field of pricing . It means that the Competition Council or the institution that you mentioned should do the pricing order or formulate it. Now the Competition Council should appoint the working group. Yes, you see, first of all , i have to say that since internet taxis entered the field of urban transportation, we must honestly say that there has been a lot of facilitation, that is , thanks to the technology of this new technology, first of all, it has improved the use of in that traditional method of transportation, one side was usually full and the other side was empty. Almost full, and this means saving time and energy and reducing pollution and many other issues , so i want to say these things that we should not do at all. Lets put it aside and we wont put it aside. What we are talking about today is the provision of users rights and that this new technology, this new method, should be in a way that does not cause aggravation and force and oblige to accept a fee or a tariff that does not have a framework by now. Users dont have to comment now. It is like this, yes, you see , it is like this now in some cases, that is, we can say that it was not like this in the beginning, that is, the distortions were low, now i i dont judge things too much, but maybe this was to enter the market , to expand the market, but today, finally , we have this herd and this complaint from the users, which mr. Muftah also pointed out, mr. Hashemi also pointed out. Sometimes the rates are really not acceptable rates and this should definitely have a framework, but i suggest that you see this framework in the regulator that has more flexibility. The areas are very wide, which means we have many of these areas i have mentioned that the law gives permission to the Competition Council for any of these areas. A regulator should determine its composition. This is the difference between the regulator and the law. I emphasize to the regulator that you should see that the law is rigid, which means that when we make a law , it can remain the same for many years. Flexibility in creating law should change the law, but regulations are not like that, regulations because that regulatory body can decide next week and change something. Allow him to increase and decrease the factor and interact even with the platform owners themselves yes, there is this flexibility, but my opinion is that in any case, the regulation and the definition is a part of it, it is a work of the government, so this part of the regulator must do this work. Of course, i honestly think this is a key. It is a word that now probably smells political, those who use this keyword, i do not agree with the use of this word at all, see that if it is like this, then we have a lot of things that are now mandatory. Now poll our dear people and tell us whether you are satisfied with the definitions of Information Technology communications or not. I think they are very satisfied. The reason is that this is done with a correct method from the very beginning, that is, the regulatory body determined in the law provided by the ministry. Communication can do this through the Regulatory Commission and the regulatory organization, it can set the regulations , issue the licenses, and determine the definitions, and today i can tell this to my dear viewers that one of the most accurate places where the definitions are observed. Can this is the area because everything is in detail the existing network, all information is saved, even individual citizens can go wherever they have objections , they can go and say, sir , why is the bill that came to me like this, why are you saying this bandwidth . And in the second they are told that you used so many minutes at such and such hour , you used so many minutes at such and such day, or in the case of conversation, it shows that by the way, the transparency that we are looking for can be completely assured for our dear people with proper adjustment. And let them remember and feel at ease ok, their rights are being fulfilled. You see, we finally have to determine whether we agree with regulation in the price area or not. I think , mr. Doctor, i did not raise this very clearly. In any case, i personally believe that, as i said in the first part of my petition, there should be regulation, but not the limit to the price is actually if the regulation is limited to the price, i think this will not solve our problem, although there are many complaints today, that is , there are many complaints and complaints about the internet taxis that are operating in the country. Regarding the pricing, sometimes the options that are placed are like i dont know, im in a hurry, and i didnt say that, i just said the price range, the tariff is part of the regulation, yes. You see, we are talking about regulation and the same point that was mentioned , i want to emphasize again that now it seems that my doctor seems to have the same opinion that pricing should be part of this regulation. Our investment should be in such a way that we also see other issues in the field of transportation, for example, in the field of domestic transportation. We are facing a problem like traffic, we have to see that is there an increase or decrease in price . Now, this increase and decrease in price, because finally, you see, if the Competition Council or any regulatory body does not make a difference, when it wants to intervene in the price here, it either wants to decrease the prices or increases the prices. If it decreases, it causes dissatisfaction of the driver, if it increases, it will cause dissatisfaction of the passengers. Keep in mind the internet taxis of this report of the majlis research center, studies that are carried out almost nowhere in the world do not have Government Support in that way, because the development of transportation, the development of transportation based on singlepassenger and twopassenger the passenger is actually one of the reasons for the increase in traffic, one of the reasons for the increase. Burnt consumption itself is a competitor for Public Transportation in the country. Yes, we must take this into account. See, for example, one of these International Platforms like uber is operating in 80 countries. We have a total of 7 million drivers, just one of our platforms or another. This development has 4 million drivers from our platforms in iran. The strange thing that has happened in this discussion now is that many taxis have no motivation to work on the route. Internet taxis are operating, the agencies are practically closed, i want to say that the regulation should be limited to these as well. After all , how far will this growth go . A large part of our urban traffic is due to the daily growth of these. I respect it, after all, it is part of our troubles are in the field of transportation and so on. Discussing a part of that employment, especially for the workforce that may not have that much skill , after all, a part of this. Yes, i believe that finally some measures have been taken that have such positive characteristics that we should finally appreciate them. We should appreciate their efforts, but the regulation here should show its role, maybe one of the places that is least effective is the pricing issue. Your definition should be in a way that still causes. The increase and expansion of these things should be more than what it is now. Well, we have to see what the harms are, what benefits it can have, what harms it can have. All of this should be seen in this space. This is true there should be a regulator , not limited to the price, which by the way, i believe that if we went , we looked at this issue more than you are just single. If we have it, it might cause problems, thats why, mr. Taghipour , how much do you agree that we should go beyond pricing, i. E. , the governing body of the Competition Council or that working group or whatever else you two gentlemen are referring to, should come in. For example , if i want to control the traffic in your presence , the size of the company itself, the price , and more than what we have now. We are talking about it. Yes , you see, this issue of internet taxis is definitely a part of the tuition transportation ecosystem. Naturally , we have to consider all the factors. That a Strategic Plan for the transportation of the urban management of tehran was prepared with a very Strong International consultant, the summary of which was that we should develop Public Transportation in such a way that every citizen, whether from his place of residence or from his place of work , when he goes out you can reach a public transport by walking 300 meters well, this was a big strategy and a very clear policy that was determined in that program, naturally, it was regulated. The regulations include all these , i mean, i want to say that it is definitely not just the tariff , but what should be the ratio of these, it should be seen that in the large consumption of energy, environmental pollution and many other issues, all these can be done with proper regulation. And by the way, thats why im stressing that , naturally, the Competition Council alone cannot solve all these problems in different fields, but we can create a Regulatory Commission that is specifically for this. Lets consider the issue, apparently this has already happened to some extent, that is, the ministry of interior and the ministry of the ministry of tariff, and the Competition Council, of course, if this composition of this commission is completed, it means that the city management, for example , the cities, will be added to this. These considerations , or even the environment and other members , we do not mean to make the bureaucracy more complicated or to increase the bureaucracy, but we mean that the decisions that are made should be correct and complete decisions, taking into account all aspects, including the rights of users. Which has more examples about the definition of course, the rest are the rights of citizens, in any case , we are dealing with the expansion of transportation. Lets not allow the environment to be polluted more than this, or we should definitely reduce and eliminate the singleperson issue in our strategy. This is definitely one of the things that, in my opinion , can be achieved with proper regulation. How do you refer to the regulation you have . Because , for example, you mentioned traffic, yes , look, i will say that when the City Administration comes here , naturally, the decisions that are made are related to the other decisions, that is, they can consider that we are good. Of course, this amount of percentage was in the program that i mentioned, for example, what percentage should be subway, what percentage should be bus, what percentage can finally be taxi, now it can be of various types, such as linear taxis , dedicated taxis, telephone taxis, etc. Agency and naturally , now internet taxis have been added to this collection. All this with the big plan that is determined for the Transportation Management of the city, which, in my opinion, the commission can be very effective in compiling this plan, it can be seen there, and the result of that plan can be the result of that framework. It is the correct regulations that we should foresee in all fields for this issue, mr. Nakhaei , do you think that