Transcripts For IRINN 20240704

Was a big strategy and a very clear policy that was determined in that program, naturally, the regulation includes all of this, that is, i want to say that it is definitely not just the tariff, but what the ratio of these should be , it should be seen that in large consumption of energy , environmental pollution and many other issues, all of which can be done with proper regulation, and by the way, thats why i emphasize that the Competition Council alone naturally cannot do all this. Solve the problem in different areas, but we can consider a Regulation Commission specifically for this issue. Tariff and from the Competition Council, naturally , if this composition of this commission is completed , it means that urban management, for example, municipalities, will be added to this, and these considerations, or even the environment and other considerations , we do not mean to make the bureaucracy more complicated or the bureaucracy lets do more , but the meaning is that the decisions are taken make correct and complete decisions , consider all aspects of this, including the rights of users , which have more examples in terms of definition, of course, the rest are the rights of citizens. In any case , if we do not allow the environment to become more polluted with the expansion of Public Transportation, or we must reduce and eliminate the issue of single passengers in our strategy, this is definitely one of them. There are things that, in my opinion , can be achieved with the correct adjustment. How do you refer to the adjustment you have . You mentioned my traffic, for example. I would like to say that when the City Administration comes here, it will come naturally the decisions that are made are related to the rest of the decisions, that is, they can take into account that we are good, that this amount of percentage , of course, in the program that i mentioned , for example, what percentage should be the subway, what percentage should be the bus, etc. A percentage can finally be a taxi now of its various types. It can be linear taxis, private taxis , telephone and agency taxis, and of course, now internet taxis have also been added to this collection, all of this with the big plan that is determined for the management of city transport, which, in my opinion, is the commission. It can be very effective in the formulation of this program , it can be seen there and the result of that approach , the result of that framework, can be the correct regulations that we foresee in all fields for this issue , mr. Nakhaei, you think that because a criticism that it is brought up. You mentioned that the market of these few companies that offer internet taxis is a monopoly market, and the opposite side says no, if the government enters or a governing body enters , it will do mandatory pricing here. Exclusive come and order pricing to do means intervention. Which one do you believe in . I said that we should leave this space completely and leave it to the companies themselves to do the pricing in any way they know what is happening now. Under the pretext of traffic and various other pretexts , they are taking outrageous prices from the people , they are taking advantage of the existing space, there is a need for an institution that, well, now these institutions, we must reach a common literature with a doctor, now i finally have my own opinion, mr. Doctor we started planning this in the fourth term of the council. How many years have really passed since then, i dont know what the friends in the municipality are doing. I mean, what has happened in the past few years, what issues have arisen in the discussion of the development of Public Transportation, what are you really doing . Im talking about whats happening , excuse me, mr. Doctor, about the internet taxi thats also happening, all the art friends in tehran municipality and in Tehran City Council is that we should go now quickly. Lets start, i dont know our price tool. Lets apply it, because i saw that this was the issue in your conversation, gentlemen, i say you should go and do your own work, that is , what did you do in the area of ​​urban management in all these past years . He wants to solve the issue of employment, a large part of these challenges that you could not solve, and now he has finally succeeded to some extent, although i have criticisms that i expressed in the price discussion. I mentioned this issue immediately from many other topics these friends are in trouble, so now we go there, intervene, set prices, do soand so, you do your own work , you are incapable of doing your homework, you are acting incompetent. Mr. Nakhi , what are you saying . Because i was in the council during those periods, the Tehran City Council appointed 3 people to interact with the government and that you know that according to law 80 , the costs of providing infrastructure in the attack of public transport it is the responsibility of the government, and the law clearly states this that the government should foresee this in the annual budgets and provide it to the City Administration to ensure this, so that we formulated a Strategic Plan for transportation in tehran , it must be the right thing to do, it means that the alphabet is a case, if not, we should criticize and but why was it not implemented and your criticism is also correct , but we have to look at the factors, the factors are that we had 14 thousand billion tomans at that time, i remember that even now these numbers have changed a lot , the tehran municipality requested the government to develop the infrastructure thats what public transport means metro, new metro lines. The result of that plan is the new bus lines and how much it should be developed in which lines in which axes is the result of that plan, so that plan was the right thing to do, but if it has not been implemented , we must remove its factors and obstacles. Yes, this is also true. I think we should go back a bit , i said that the commission made up of members of the government should include the City Administration, in order to really sit down and discuss these issues together, they should also go to the government and the government board, the board of ministers, to understand that when a decision is made get these credits the authority of the City Management is not given, the result is that our metro lines start working late or the interval between the departures of our metro trains is too much, and this congestion that exists is not the answer , so all this, in my opinion , is related to the collective work of that commission. You can really take shape, i hope. Again , doctor, you say that the commission is really a country , we dont have a good experience with these commissions , we dont have a good experience with these councils after the culture , yes , we dont have a good experience with the entry of the Competition Council. Do it out of necessity, that is, because nothing else comes to ones mind. We say, sir, monopoly, naturally, the council, but if the council is competition. And these councils and commissions that you mention are going to follow the issues in the past style and context, no problem of the country will be solved, no problem of transportation within the cities of the regulations in the ministry of communications, because i was once the head of it, now mr. Minister is the minister of communications. It is held regularly once every two weeks. We really have very little work to do. We have almost nothing to do there. Yes , and it is from the ministry of different houses of the ministry of economy the organization is tied, that is, really, those people who should be a group , a group, compact and at the same time efficient, in my opinion, sit down and make decisions. We will see the solution in the formation of these councils and commissions. There is a serious will in the government in urban management. Now , there should be City Councils or municipalities for this issue. I think that we do not have any legal dispossession. Let him say why the parliament does not enter , why the parliament does not legislate, i say we are the law with this clause of our 1986 law on the development of the public mind of the country , we are using the clean air law as much as you want. By the way, we have a density of laws. We have a density of laws. We have laws on this issue. There is enough law , there is no will. Yes, i am saying now a part of this urban traffic is due to the expansion of internet taxis outside the rules. However, for the case of rome, we have to see that every year, half a million cars are entering this country, yes , some wornout cars are leaving. Not removed from the fleet the development of public transport, its wear and tear, the development of public transport itself, what really happened to it in these few years, i want to say that in fact, we have the main problems in the matter of transport, not today , internet taxis, which are a Strange Development due to cheap fuel and cheap labor. Finding in our country , becoming a competitor of public transport , becoming a competitor of the subway, becoming a competitor of bart, becoming a competitor of buses , becoming a competitor of taxis. Adjusting these but if it is with the same approaches as before. All his art leave it to us to come, put a price , set a price, the Current Conditions of rome will ruin it, that is, they will create more dissatisfaction. I think that the countrys transport and fuel Management Headquarters should take a more serious approach to these issues. Anyway , look at us. The issue is actually much bigger than this, in my opinion, and really this serious will should be in the government. And in any case , there should be a City Management until this is the will of his highness. You want to follow up, but in the end, if you dont have the support of any of these institutions , you will definitely have problems in following up on those issues, so i think that in fact, this regulation should definitely be done, but with a new approach of the Competition Council , but with a new approach. With a new approach , the price should be a part of this. Yes , there should be other more important issues, which i mentioned two or three issues here. Mr. Taghipour , we talked about the users. For these options that are said, now mr. Nakhim to him what do you think about these commissions . Who do you think should appoint the commissions . You see, the commissions should definitely be determined by the same regulator because it can be different in different situations, that is , as you say, it should not be in the hands of the companies. He is allowed to take less, why are we talking like that if a platform decides to take less. Take it and benefit the driver, naturally, well, this can be developed sooner, in general, it can benefit the user ok, that means you can give a discount to the user. These features that im talking about exist in most foreign platforms, but sometimes our applications dont have the necessary maturity to predict this. There are a lot of suggestions for these. The sentence of the tender discussion that i mentioned is that the regulator can oblige the platforms to do the same about the commission and other issues that we are facing today. Anyway, the insurance of these drivers is a discussion, which i think is just as bad. Of course, i dont mean that these should be the recruitment of that platform this is definitely not the right thing to do, but the regulator should think of a solution for this and announce a plan to resolve these issues, which sometimes cause complaints, god willing. In my opinion, the only definition is not the solution to all problems. Maybe if we have this definition, it will be a little less, but if we solve these problems for the car owners and drivers, maybe this way they will be satisfied better and we will be able to provide a Better Service to the people. All in all, you see, we have a series of principles, the principle is that users rights must be respected, the principle is that basically, we have to Pay Attention to this. Sometimes, some concepts are reversed in our country. Competition is to cheapen the principle of competition, not to make us more expensive. Unfortunately, sometimes josh is not here. I had and discussed many times with these gentlemen themselves, sometimes this Game Exchange makes it expensive for people, which is not logical at all, after all , there is a final price. In our religious teachings , there are recommendations not to hoard. If the prices are fair, we cant leave all this aside, we will come later lets say now, because, for example, in some places, i am sure that there are antiterror laws , antimonopoly laws, that is, they have a set of laws that do not allow this to happen and whoever wants to announce any price and take it from our people. Sometimes these models are incomplete , i have to reduce these options like i am in a hurry and this is what has been reported a lot. Look, i think i am in a hurry. It can be a useful way to increase these prices. Well, when there is a possibility, of course, it should be. That possibility should be available to the user, it doesnt mean that we lets say, for example , if you follow the official rate or the predetermined rate, i cant or dont want to go this route, but if you pay more, i think so. It is not correct, it is one of the unfair rules, of course, it is not like this, for example , based on supply and demand in that area and neighborhood, and see, thats my width, this supply and demand can be adjusted through the platform, that is, at least the supply can be adjusted through the platform, my width is it is good for the platform to adjust its regulations based on the users interest, not his own interest or the interest of others. This can definitely be implemented, for example, the one i told you there are also external bidding options , so please implement this, why havent you done it yet . Thank you, mr. Nakhaei. Regarding the commission and these options, you are in a hurry. What should you say about the Drivers Commission first . The discussion of price, naturally, if it is a discussion of price reduction, it means that it will lead to a price reduction. This will cause a lot of dissatisfaction among the drivers. If there is an increase in the price , it will lead to the dissatisfaction of the passengers. Naturally, this approach should be towards the commission. They receive the commission that these companies have. Maybe these Companies Say that we we have the Lowest Commission among internet taxis in the world. They say that we are getting 15 , while shoes in the world are 17 . Maybe he will raise this issue. But a fact. There is, and the fact that they have a lot of Government Support anyway, they use the cheap fuel that is available to them and the cheap labor that is available to them, this is one of the reasons for the Strange Development of this, in fact , internet taxis in the country. There has been a Huge Development of these and the increasing development of these, which are practically competitors. Done for the countrys Public Transportation system and under it it has made an impact. Well, this naturally created a lot of profitability for these companies. It is true that their Commission Percentage may be lower, but you look at the number of trips , look at the number of drivers, this expansion that has finally happened has made a lot of profit for them. The Competition Council, well, i thought , naturally, there should be an entry. He should manage this issue and this exclusive space that has been created , and regulate it, and one of them must be the price component. In the discussion of commissions, he can comment on the commission ceiling, of course, this commission ceiling that they decide on the condition that there is no time when these are only encouraged for shortterm trips , that is, you put a ceiling on the commission, this will actually encourage these platforms and all their enthusiasm is to go for short trips. In the future, longterm trips, where the commission is capped, will not receive more. They should practically eliminate or limit it, or talk about percentages, talk about percentages, these are details that should be determined in those regulations , but we have to find an entry, the Competition Council must enter rights in this exclusive space. To supply the consumer and finally to manage the dissatisfactions that exist , there is no doubt about this, but in what form and in what details to do this work, well, this naturally depends on the fact that it needs to be analyzed, it needs to be checked and we we should keep this point in mind, of course, my colleagues have been following the Competition Council for several months regarding the commissions. Last night , my colleagues report was broadcast and we saw it together , but it still hasnt reached a conclusion. If we do this , it will definitely affect other components you see, right now, part of these reports are official, after all, they are reports that the majlis pages center has at least checked. Part of the urban traffic air pollution that we have in the city of tehran is at least caused by the expansion and development. In fact, these internet taxis are part of the increase in fuel consumption. Gasoline is causing this dissatisfaction. Part of it is due to this, in fact, the issue is the issue of labor force and employment. After all, you see, in some areas of the country, these are competitors for becoming an industry , which means that the industry has been emptied of the workforce, which may not be very skilled now, right . It has solved some of our problems, but in some parts of the country , it is actually becoming a competitor of the industrial industry that has added value, an industry that has an offer for the country. What is your opinion about that option . Now, friends claim that in these companies, we have algorithms that predict the traffic and the length of the trip. We have seen all these things. Well, if you see , i am in a hurry, what is this, i am in a hurry . I think it is a local. Just for abuse. Now, fortunately , i saw that my punishment entered into this issue and warning given that this should not exist after all. It may be different, in any case, the market is, for example, a competitive market between the user and the driver, and naturally, you pay more money, you can get to the car faster, how can you, in any case, look at me when i say there is a monopoly, thats why you say that we have an option. Lets say that whoever paid more money is not correct. This is a sacrifice of consumer rights. I am not saying what it is. You said yes, this is a sacrifice of consumer rights. Now the platforms in fact, besides these , they can develop and play a role, thank you, mr. Taghibpour, we have two or three minutes, two minutes for you, two minutes, almost for you, in the 12th parliament, we are debating this issue , how to follow up. You will see what action you will take. It was mentioned in the talks , the fact is that it seems like we do not need a new law in this field. However , definitely in the regulatory discussions and whether this regulatory body has been created or determined and whether this system means the regulation system related to the entire transport. Shahri and dheel, transportation of internet taxis through internet taxis, is this system established correctly and. Does it work properly . Naturally, this is the work of the parliaments macro supervision, and wherever there is a defect or there is a problem. Ok, naturally, we have to give a warning, we have to give a warning, if it gets to a point where it is really felt that some laws are now either standards or divorce , they interfere with each other and need to be amended. We will definitely do this in the 12th parliament. God willing, we will follow and there are a series of principles, definitely if we consider these, we must be satisfied in any case users should be assured that finally, big cities like tehran , like the centers of provinces, should not be allowed to expand more than this traffic. Priorities must be defined. I said that in tehran, these strategies now exist, this should happen in other places as well, and finally, with these laws and regulations , if needed, we should be able to make a proper regulation. I emphasize again. Because gary is really flexible in the field , he can make decisions at the moment, he can quickly correct his wrong decisions and make new decisions, so in my opinion, if we strengthen this regulatory body and let everyone know that there is an authority and that authority must perform all these tasks well together, this is the solution that i propose and how you can do it. I dont know that the companies themselves are harmed. Anyway, these are also part of my economy. I must say that it is definitely the same. You see, the regulator should also protect the interests of the companies. When we say the regulator, we mean that , see, now i did not say it because the opportunity was limited. The regulator should do at least three things a proper relationship between the platforms and the government. This is now i dont know how to pay taxes , this should be regulated, and governance discussions, the two platforms relationship with each other may be necessary in some places , they should cooperate, the regulator must determine this, and the 3 relationships between the user and the platform, all of this is in the economy. Digital in Digital Businesses are subject to regulation and need a regulatory framework, of course this is a principle that these regulations. In my opinion, a percentage of the income of these companies should be given to the municipalities. To be considered for the purpose of developing Public Transportation. This is the issue that we must follow. Now, if there is legal capacity if you dont have it, we have to create its legal capacity. I emphasize on the development of public transport. This is an article. The second thing is that, well, i mentioned that we have the law on the development of public transport and optimization of fuel consumption, dated 2006. These laws are now somehow related to this. There is a problem with this, despite the fact that yes, it is enough , that is, if the executives have the will to follow up on these issues, the rules are enough , however, since there is no explicit percentage and share for internet taxis in these rules , look at the metro. Seen for the bus for taxis, linear taxis have been seen, but for internet taxis, a share in Public Transportation has not been seen. Maybe there is a need to update the law somewhere, but the point i want to say is that we should use the model of other countries in the world. After all, you can see that now hybrid or combined transportation is being used in Different Countries of the world, that is, in fact online information of Transportation Systems with actually this route, for example, i say you choose, you want to go from point a. Go to point b, he offers you a part of this from the internet taxi use part of this because it has subway time and bus time and everything. Part of this means that we should use this combined system like everywhere in the world. You accompanied us on the best weekend. Today, wherever the license is pending , it has been automatically issued by the national licenses portal. According to the national licenses portal, 763 of these requests were related to the technical prerequisite certificate for fishing boats. 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