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To believe for people that have. Imagine what how desperate things have got to be to, you know, jump in a dinghy. Well, i mean, find out what else gary lineker is banging on about now. Oh, my panel this evening. It is political top dog john sergeant, weve got apprentice finalist and entrepreneur joana jarjue commentator and broadcaster extraordinaire Alex Armstrong. And i will tell you what caused this. Oh no, i wont get ready. Britain here we go. Well, apparently not everyone has the right to live in britain. Next. Very good evening to you. Its just after 9 00. Im sam francis, a look at the headlines this evening. The bodies of this evening. The bodies of three people who were kidnapped by hamas from a Music Festival on october the 7th have been found by the Israeli Military in gaza. The Israeli Defence forces confirmed the three bodies were discovered overnight. Flight discovered overnight. Flight from intelligence, they say, was gained by interviewing interviewing captured hamas fighters. Among the three hostages was 22 year old shani. Look whose twisted remains were photographed on the back of a pickup truck. Israel thinks about 100 hostages may still be alive, while another 30 are thought to be dead. Meanwhile, thought to be dead. Meanwhile, a terrorist who stabbed a stranger to death in an attack motivated by the conflict in gaza will spend at least 44 years in prison. Ahmed ali ali had prison. Ahmed ali ali had already tried to kill his housemate before roaming the streets of hartlepool and repeatedly stabbing grandfather Terence Carney. Last october, the 45 year old is an Asylum Seeker who claimed to be from morocco. Shadow home secretary Yvette Cooper says his conviction exposes what shes called an alarming catalogue of failings in the home offices handung failings in the home offices handling of his asylum claim. Handling of his asylum claim. Well, weve heard today that a teacher convicted of having sex with two schoolboys becoming pregnant by one of them was described as a predator by the judge. Rebecca jones was found guilty of six counts of engaging in Sexual Activity with a child. In Sexual Activity with a child. She denied having sex with one school boy and claimed a relationship with a second teenager began once he had left school, and after she had been sacked during her two week trial, the High School Teacher told the court that she craved attention and that she was flattered by the teenagers attention. The 30 year old will attention. The 30 year old will be sentenced in july. The be sentenced in july. The chancellor has admitted that he cant promise that taxes will definitely fall under a future conservative government. However, jeremy hunt insists the economy has turned a corner and the people, he says, will feel the people, he says, will feel the benefit if the conservatives win the next election. Hes also repeated his intention to scrap National Insurance altogether. If its affordable, although labour says it could lead to higher borrowing or higher taxes on pensioners, or the end of the state pension. Speaking in state pension. Speaking in london this morning, the chancellor accused labours Rachel Reeves of resorting to what he called playground politics. It comes to labour policies on jobs, welfare reform and tax. The difference if they are elected , will be profound and elected, will be profound and damaging for every family in the country. Labour like to criticise recent tax rises, thinking people dont know what caused them, the furlough scheme, the Energy Price Guarantee and billions of pounds in cost of living support. But labour supported those policies, which is why it is playground politics to use those tax rises to distract debate from the biggest divide in british politics today. What happens to politics today. What happens to the tax burden next . Jeremy hunt theyre speaking this morning. Well, tonight theres still no word on how long residents in south devon will have to boil their water. Thats after a parasite got into suppues thats after a parasite got into supplies following possible contamination from cow manure. Contamination from cow manure. There are now 46 confirmed cases of cryptosporidium , according to of cryptosporidium, according to health officials. It means cases of the diarrhoea inducing bug have more than doubled in less than 24 hours. More than 100 people have also reported having symptoms. And finally, sir Paul Mccartney has become the uks first billionaire musician. The sunday times rich list says the 81 year olds wealth has risen by £50 million in just the last yeah by £50 million in just the last year. Its reportedly thanks to his 2023 tour. The increase in the value of his back catalogue and beyonce covering the beatles song blackbird on her latest album. Thats the latest from album. Thats the latest from the newsroom. Another update at 10 00. Until then, you can sign up to gb news alerts by scanning the qr code on your screen, or go to gb news. Common alerts. Go to gb news. Common alerts. Welcome along. Why havent we already deported the palestinian student who said this . We are full of pride. Were really, really full of joy were really, really full of joy of what has happened. Well, she was apparently proud of hamas doing this. And of course, much, much more on october the 7th, she made her comments the day after the horrific attacks. She made the comments on october the 8th, Robert Jenrick and Suella Braverman revoked her visa. Shes a guest in this country studying at manchester university, enjoying the rights and way of life that we have on offer here and now. Shes whingeing and moaning about the fact that shes had her visa revoked. So going on national revoked. So going on National Television and saying that she and everyone around her was full of joy at the news that Hamas Terrorists had raped, murdered, killed babies, taken hostages and slaughtered jews. She claims that her views are being misrepresented. Here she is, ironically playing the martyr. My voice is being suppressed and im being censored for simply standing in solidarity with my people who are being genocided. Currently in gaza, i did not expect the home office to take such an egregious decision in revoking my student visa based on my public statements that simply express my support and solidarity. I think its an outrageous claim that the home office is making by deeming me a National Security threat. Im a 19 year old who has done nothing but go to school and advocate for social justice. I stand before you today having lived the repercussions of speaking up. The home office has cancelled my student visa because i spoke up against genocide. Genocide. Okay, so she says that shes lived the repercussions of her actions. Well shes not lived them, has she . If shes still here, we are importing people with absolutely horrendous views. I mean, one Asylum Seeker was convicted for wearing a hamas headband at a rally. This has been going on for a long time, though, right now. A warning in advance here, a warning in advance here, a warning in advance for the language in this clip that im about to play. But its important to know that this stuff exists. Here is a clip of people driving around a jewish area saying, f the jews and rape their daughters , so i mean, that their daughters, so i mean, that is obviously what hamas actually did. Isnt it . The mothers and did. Isnt it . The mothers and daughters i showed you support for rafe the daughters to be ostracised. The message that the. The message that the. Unfortunately, news broke in the last couple of hours that israel has recovered the bodies of three hostages in gaza, three innocent people who were snatched by a terrorist death cult and held hostage for months, having goodness knows what inflicted upon them, presumably in some cases. Just presumably in some cases. Just a few hours before that, news broke here in britain that an Asylum Seeker, ahmed ali alid, who killed an elderly british man at random in the street in revenge against israel for moving into gaza and tried to kill another man for converting to christianity, was sentenced to christianity, was sentenced to 45 years in prison. There is to 45 years in prison. There is a lot of this kind of mindset going around at the moment and unfortunately for that palestinian student in manchester who had her visa revoked, the fact is that you do not get to live in our country and enjoy all the nice things that it has to offer, enjoy our way of life. If things like this. Make you feel like this. We are full of pride. Were really, really full of joy. Of what has happened. Of what has happened. Of what has happened. Goodbye. Good riddance. Right goodbye. Good riddance. Right then its time to get the views of my panel this evening im joined by former bbc and itv political chief is john sergeant. I also have apprentice finalist and entrepreneur, joana jaflue finalist and entrepreneur, joana jarjue and commentator and broadcaster extraordinaire Alex Armstrong. Alex, ill start with you. Is it time that we deport this woman . Why is she still here . Shes. Its totally repugnant what she said, isnt it . I mean, its vulgar. What really strikes me is that its taken well, first its taken a little while for the for the home office to act on this. I think this these comments came out on october the 7th, actually the day after october the 8th. So its actually been quite a long time for justice to be served. But frankly, language like this being broadcast in the mainstream, which im totally fine with because i think it exposes the view of these people, is becoming more commonplace. And what its doing commonplace. And what its doing is radicalising more people, as you just show on that clip of those people driving around saying those also repugnant and vulgar things. Yeah, its giving leeway to these radical people to say, this is acceptable, this is okay. And the home office should be taking this tough stance, and im glad. And i hope she does get deported. Yeah. I mean, look, joanna, i suppose that there is the argument that shes saying that it was revoked her visa on the grounds of it being a Security Risk , her being a Security Risk. Risk, her being a Security Risk. The home office has now pushed back a bit on that and said it wasnt that, it was the fact that she doesnt serve any good basically to britain, where are you on this . Well, i think that revoking her visa might be a bit too far. And when we think about other stuff thats also said, and when we think about things that are said by the Israeli Government themselves and ministers , you themselves and ministers, you know, talking about fighting human animals and erasing the gaza strip from the face of the earth and completely rejecting a Palestinian Statehood, which i know that a lot of the time the question is always ask, does israel have the right to exist . So, for arguments sake, if somebody from the Israeli Military in one of these viral videos that weve seen online, varne, you know, gloating about killing palestinians happened to have a student visa and came here, would we treat them exactly the same . And i just think that, you know, im not kind of condoning any of the stuff that she has said. I think thatis stuff that she has said. I think that is completely wrong. But whether it kind of goes to the extent of actually saying that she might be a Security Risk, which i know that you said that its been disputed, but to say that shes not allowed to live in this country when actually when you think about situations like the russia and ukraine war, a lot of people, you know, have actually sat on National Television and said things like, well, you know, ukraine shouldnt be moving closer to nato. Yeah, but i dont think anyones. But one thing i will say, i think there is a big difference. And john, you know, the day after we see live streamed footage of people being slaughtered in their own homes and people being raped and cut to pieces and all of this stuff, to pieces and all of this stuff, to then go out on the street just the day after and say to the cameras that you are, you feel joy about that. Why would we want that person in britain if we had a choice . Thats not the issue there. The issue is how is she allowed to come to this country . What were the terms in which she agreed to come and the terms that the that the government agreed in the old days, the home secretary could just simply say, youre off, but now, because of judicial review and the fact that the convention on human rights is part of our law , what rights is part of our law, what you cant do is just sort of say, i dont know what ill do. Say, i dont know what ill do. I dont like that she should go. We say, wait a moment, but we live in a country where law is very important to us. Process is very important to us. Process is very important to us. Process is very important to us. Let her have the hearing. If they accept her rights to appeal because they say theres no formal right to appeal. But there is judicial review and im sure the lawyers have gone through this and realised. Would you like to see, though, john, what i would like, what i would like to see on a personal level is a proper heanng personal level is a proper hearing and saying, wait minute. No, no knowledge on the home office. Office. Hold on a moment. You may think its odd and strange for me to say, would the law be okay if it was . If it was put into effect, a hamas attack . No, no, of course im not in favour of that. Its appalling thing to say, but people say appalling things all the time. The question is what do you then do with the person in this situation . As far as im concerned , thats the moment concerned, thats the moment because we dislike what she said so much. Thats just the moment so much. Thats just the moment when we have to make sure that our system is fair, because whatever else were trying to do in this country, were trying to be fair to say, how will the home, the home secretarys decide and thats it. Decide and thats it. My point, though, because its like people say stuff all the time and its very convenient now because obviously shes in the palestinian side , shes in the palestinian side, but then it could potentially set a precedent when it comes to other people who say stuff. But joanna, hamas is a proscribed terrorist organisation , right . Its not organisation, right . Its not like youre supporting, i dont know , another country at war. Know, another country at war. They are a proscribed terrorist organisation that shes advocating for and saying the day after terror actions by hamas took place in israel, that people were raped and murdered. Can i also just say defending, she feels as a bride and joy, we dont want those people here. This is a vital point which is at the point she said that stuff israel hadnt responded exactly. Israel hadnt even responded. So it was pretty much literally just celebrating the atrocities that had happened. And i achievement were one of not look, we dont know in detail how much she knew of the attack, how many people have been killed , how many women have been killed, how many women have been killed, how many women have been raped, what what actually went on . I dont know, but the point is, she felt, look, im here. Im allowed to say what id like. I live in a im. Ive come to a free country. Im not, im not. Judicial review will be important. This is where the judicial review will be important because shes talking about resistance as well within that. So obviously if she goes to a court of law, they will dissect exactly what she said. They dissect her words. They dissect her words. Yeah. Obviously in the grand scheme of things, we all know that shes talking about hamas, but actually theyll look at what she actually said and whether that this is another point for me, which is im sorry, but i think people come to this country and they take the absolute mic. No, but they dont just take arbitrary justice. Otherwise, why do we have our country at all . Our country is based upon law and process. If you say, by law and process. If you say, by the way, you can come here, but wait a moment, you cant come here because you didnt like what you just said out. Were not a we were not a joke country. Were not were not a joke country. But but we i think it is a joke. If somebody comes to this country on a student visa, says that they take joy in manchester, which has got one of the highest, most densely populated jewish populations of anywhere in the country outside of london, and can stand there freely around and say not just her, but everyone around her takes joy in a hamas attack all the more. We cannot get rid of that person. All the more reason to be careful in a case like this. All careful in a case like this. All the more reason because its so. Its so much against what we believe. I will say this though, john, the home office have good lawyers. They will have looked lawyers. They will have looked at this case in detail and would have said, i think we will win. I think we will win if this goes to court. But we also need to start showing the British Public we are serious about deporting people that dont agree with our values here, because we have been very, very tolerant and the tolerance that we get. I tell you what happens , we get ahmed you what happens, we get ahmed ali and hartlepool murdering people. This is what happens when we show were too tolerant. People start to get radicalised about values without about if somebody is actually potentially a threat, like is it actually we need to show the world that we are not going to accept. No were not. No were not. We are meant to everyone. Everyone. Can i just make one point very clear. The old National Security risk thing was something that was put out by her, which she said that that was why it was revoked, which i understand that would be quite a high bar. Okay. See what the courts decide. But what they are saying is actually apparently they have revoked it on the grounds, as you would revoke anyone who you could potentially do with a student visa for just being deemed to not be a benefit to british society. Well, came here on a student visa to study, to learn. Stick to what youre here to do. Study learn. You dont have to go and make massive protests and upset people. Patrick has said she she was here to enjoy the advantages and all the other things that come in britain. Life in britain. Im afraid this is very important to me. Live in britain , live is i me. Live in britain, live is i cant go around advocating for not being careful. Not being careful. One thing i dont think that the argument is about whether what she said was right or wrong. I think its about whether it warranted deportation or her visa being. And it needs to be. I go to germany and start advocating for nana needs to be. All right. All right. Were gonna yeah, were gonna have to move on. I think most people in this country would not want someone who feels feels a sense of deep joy over hamas. Most people dont. We dont have. We dont have lynch law. We dont have people shouting at each other. Thats it. As anti semitic attacks in europe are increasing, Suella Braverman is demanding more action from the government, whether they are fostering an environment which supports British Values , which is uniting British Values, which is uniting people rather than allowing sectarian in, politics to rip, rip them apart. Yeah, some more exclusive footage with the former home secretary there. But is it too little, too late . Okay has the fall out to hamas terror attack on october the 7th proven that multiculturalism has failed in britain . Were going to have a debate on that. Plus, its all kicking off in taiwan on a sunday. And by sunday and by i love a parliamentary punch up. We need a bit more of that. But up next, look, this is apparently happening now. Israel apparently happening now. Israel could be booted out of World Football. Thats the demand of the palestinian fa. And apparently its also, going to be what its going to be a big debate for us. But im just going to announce, apparently we do have quite a special guest on this is avram grant, is the former chelsea manager and the former chelsea manager and the former israeli manager as well. So hes also going to be involved in this conversation. So make sure you stay tuned this this is Patrick Christys. Tonight on gb news. Coming up. Has multiculture ism failed in britain . Suella has got a thing or two to say about that. But first, should israel be booted out of World Football, it is time for tonights head to head. Time for tonights head to head. So, remarkably, fifa are holding an urgent meeting in july. Cant be that urgent to decide if israel should be banned from competing in World Football over its continued military response to the october the 7th hamas terrorist attacks, fifa president Gianni Infantino confirmed a legal assessment would be held after the Palestinian Football Association back by the fas of algeria, iraq , jordan, syria and yemen submitted the proposal and demanded the governing body stand on the right side of history. As they say. History. As they say. Palestines fa president Jibril Rajoub , also indirectly rajoub, also indirectly referenced russias ban from the sport last year after it invaded ukraine. He said how much more must the palestine football family suffer for fifa to act with the same severity and urgency as it did in other cases . Does fifa consider some wars to be more important than others, and some victims to be more significant . But cino more significant . But cino moshiri suarez, who is the president of the israeli fa, responded saying, look, hey, we are facing a cynical , political are facing a cynical, political and hostile attempt by the Palestinian Association to harm israeli football. So look, should israel be booted out of World Football at the behest of palestine and a few other nafions palestine and a few other nations . Before we have a debate nations . Before we have a debate on this, im very pleased to say that we are drawing down the line by avram grant, whos the former manager of the Israeli National team and arguably better known in this country anyway for being the former manager of chelsea to Champions League final. Avram, thank you very, very much forjoining us. Very, very much for joining us. Should israel lose their status as a World Football playing nafion as a World Football playing nation . Nafion . Should israel . What . Sorry. Should israel . What . Sorry. Should israel be booted out of fifa . Of fifa . You know, i im in thailand. You know, i im in thailand. I was in this congress , this i was in this congress, this morning when Jibril Rajoub spoke and the president of the israeli fa spoke. Ill tell you first, the target of fifa is sport. Sports united. People put people together and find a solution. I had a by the way algeria now against israel. And i was in my team in portsmouth. Two algerian players. So football come to players. So football come to unhed players. So football come to united people. What Jibril Rajoub is doing and i know him personally. Yes i know that he have, ambitions to be the leader of the palestinian and he want to do it for the football. But to do it for the football. But this is not my job. This is not my concern. I can do one thing. My concern. I can do one thing. I dont like to involve. I dont like to involve. Oh, okay. Do you do you think that it would be potentially a bit anti semitic to take this kind of action against israel, defending itself or not . I think that, look, the, the jew and others , you see, who jew and others, you see, who supported him, of course, they dont like israel and of course they are against israel, against they are against israel, against the jewish people. They said it publicly. So i dont need to say publicly. So i dont need to say that. They say that what i want to say that sport is coming to unhed to say that sport is coming to united people. If you follow today and you know, i can speak about this because i have a lot of palestinian friends, me and my Family Support the palestinian, try to help them in different ways. Also in gaza and, when something bad happened to them. We are not happy from this. Of course, we are sad that children are dying and all of these things, but we need to remember one thing before i come to your point that everything started as you know before, whats happened before , because whats happened before, because whats happened before, because whats happened before, because whats happened in seven of october that was, you know, what it was, you know, you know , the it was, you know, you know, the rapes and the murder and the cut, the head of the children and rape women in front of their husband. All of this i didnt i didnt heard even one word from the jordanian over. Didnt heard even one word from the jordanian over. Jibril the jordanian over. Jibril rajoub. Sorry about what happenedin rajoub. Sorry about what happened in seven of october. You heard from the israeli president . Yes. That he said that if you. Sorry about a people that died in that died in gaza. So this is one the second they didnt come with any solution. Lets talk the problem. Lets see how we can solve the problem. Lets see how can live together. Because sport unhed can live together. Because sport united people. No, you need to ban the israel. And lets say that we will ban the israel. That we will ban the israel. What will happen to them . Their life will be better. They dont want to nick gibb dont want to create anything you want just to go against israel. And i must go against israel. And i must tell you that im very, very disappointed from jordan, which i was listening to the speech again , lets be in the right again, lets be in the right side of the history. What is the right side of the history . Also, hitler want to say that he want to be in the right side of the of the history. What why . Why they say that why i didnt what i didnt heard one word to condemn whats happened in seven of october from there. Why . I didnt hear one word. Lets find a solution. Lets find a way how a solution. Lets find a way how to live together. We didnt see to live together. We didnt see it because all the target we know, all the targets. Okay, avram. Thank you. Thank you very, thank you. Thank you very, very much for coming on and short notice , and i hope to talk short notice, and i hope to talk to you again. Its really strong stuff and its actually really good to hear a football manager come out and give, you know, some really some really honest views. I know a lot of the time its difficult as football managers, you dont want to necessarily always say what you think. So thank you. We do appreciate it here. Thats avram grant now is the former manager of chelsea amongst many other teams, including, of course, the Israeli National team. But now going head to head on this are the former tory minister paul scully and the co founder of the muslim debate initiative, abdullah al andalusi. Look, chaps, thank you very much. Great to have you both on the show. Avram was a slightly late addition there. So, so sorry to have kept you waiting, but, abdullah, ill start with you on this, should israel be essentially banned from playing international football, do you think . Think . Well, if we go by the policy, opined by members of the British Government since 2022, which said that russia should be banned from football tournaments and sport sporting activities. And of course, its now its also banned from eurovision. Also banned from eurovision. Then, then we should be consistent with the principles. Consistent with the principles. If russia is banned for its aggressive acts against ukraine, then israel should be banned. Then israel should be banned. Likewise, for its aggressive and apartheid acts against the palestinians , just like south palestinians, just like south africa under its apartheid regime, was universally banned from a number of sports , from a number of sports, sporting federations, to make the point that sports should be based on principles of, of, humanitarian ism. And these these states do not reflect that, all right, paul, go on then. Your views. No, i dont think they should at all. I think theres a big difference between russia and israel in this. Russia were the absolute aggressors that invaded ukraine, nothing to do with any pnor ukraine, nothing to do with any prior attacks, as weve seen in hamas , on october the 7th, going hamas, on october the 7th, going into israel. And i totally agree into israel. And i totally agree with what aron was saying, that actually football has to bring people together. We need to use sport to bring together people together , rather than using this together, rather than using this as an extension of that pr war thats going on around the world. Lets make sure that we can bring two countries together in terms of a ceasefire and bnng in terms of a ceasefire and bring an end to the hostilities, but not through sport. Okay, yeah, i mean, come back to that. I mean, is there is there any is there any is there any push, you know, at all to, you know, ban ukraine from sports . Well, no, because the argument, i suppose, will be that ukraine is defending itself. And, you know, i mean, israel is responding to october 7th attacks. No. Well, personally , if we just well, personally, if we just look at the history, israel actually was have been initiating attacks against palestine palestinians throughout 2023 before october the 7th, there was a bombing raids in, in gaza that destroyed over 400 buildings. There was 234 palestinians killed by israel, 1000 injured in the west bank. Not not just not even just gaza, but in the west bank where there is no, hamas as a formal entity, we see that in the great march of return where, unarmed gazans were making a demonstration to go back to the land of their ancestors, located in west, located in modern day israel. But that, over 200 of them were shot, despite the fact that they had no weapons on them simply because they were doing peaceful. Can i ask abdullah, are you a big football fan . Israel . Sorry. Israel . Sorry. Are you a big football fan . Abdullah i find the world cup and, the euros quite, interesting , so thats kind of interesting, so thats kind of my point is youre not. Youre not actually that bothered whether or not israel play football, are you . Im im bothered about consistency, if youre going to hold russia to a standard and russia argues it was defending, russia argues it was defending, russia , ethnic russians in russia, ethnic russians in ukraine that were being persecuted by, fascist ukrainians. And russia claims that ukraine is the heartland of, of the of russian of russian history , like zionists like like history, like zionists like like to claim palestine is. So theres a lot of parallels between these two aggressive states. Ill give it ill give it, ill give it over to paul. I wonder i wonder whether or not you know, everyone who wants to see israel banned from eurovision or banned from football competitions actually is an avid watcher of either eurovision or football. Yeah. Look what happened in, in the eurovision actually, because when the public had their vote, you know, obviously their vote, you know, obviously the juries were did their thing and a lot of, protesters did their thing in eurovision in malmo. But actually, when it came to the public vote, you had the silent majority coming up there and, supporting israels right to be heard , in that, in right to be heard, in that, in that wider context, i mean, nobody wants to see palestinian citizens are clearly they dont. Its horrible whats going on. But you cant just take selective history. Abdullah. Was that taken there about, you know, listening to some of those three hour, speeches, computing and thinking that is the heartland of russia. Thats absolute rubbish. Russia are allowed. Russian athletes are going to be allowed to compete in the olympics, under a different flag , we need to let different flag, we need to let sportsmen do this, but lets not play sportsmen do this, but lets not play out whats going on in the middle east in this wider pr. All right, guys, look, both of you. Thank you. I am sorry of you. Thank you. I am sorry that we were squeezed. Like i said, we were we werent expecting our friend grant there at the top. I would like to have you both back on, but we did support we did support bans on on sports for apartheid. South africa to protest against the apartheid regime. Against the apartheid regime. And in the west bank, palestinians do not have the same rights as their jewish neighbours. Right. Thats how we treat west bank. Put a, put a pin in it for now. But thank you very much. Both of you nonetheless much appreciated. Love you both on very soon now. Right. Coming up, Geert Wilders is readying himself for an immigration showdown of , can i just say, showdown of, can i just say, Epic Proportions with the European Union. Hes trying to European Union. Hes trying to shore up hollands borders. Will illegal immigration break up the European Union . Can i just say, if youre not aware of Geert Wilders, then youre about to be this guy is a tour de force. Dutch mep mickael hoogeveen gives us the lowdown from across the north sea very, very shortly. Meanwhile, go gary thinks people who want to control their borders lack empathy. Its just the lack of empathy that i find hard , hard to that i find hard, hard to believe for people that have. Imagine what how desperate things have got to be to, you know , jump in a dinghy. Know, jump in a dinghy. I will reveal that full clip a little bit later on and exactly what hes banging on about. But next ill show you what Suella Braverman said when i asked her if the israel Hamas Conflict had exposed failures of multiculturalism , right here in multiculturalism, right here in britain. Tick. Okay. This is Patrick Christys. Tonight. We are only on gb news. Now. Look, europe has seen a wash of anti semitic attacks following october. The seventh. I have joined with your. Oh, i have joined with your. Oh, yeah. That was today. A jewish man was senselessly attacked by thugs for removing an anti israel sticker at a train in bruges, apparently. Well, its been reported in the times of israel that hes since been hospitalised with a broken jaw and with a 589 increase in anti semitic related abuse, showering the uk scenes like this in london have become all too common. Yeah. I too common. Yeah. I this is what too common. Yeah. I this is what they yeah. I this is what they want. Yeah, they dont want that. I do si dos dos. Okay, so look i was thinking has multiculturalism actually failed in britain . Im joined now by my panel. Ive got a former bbc chief Political Correspondent, john sergeant, a former , sorry, a current former, sorry, a current political commentator. Joana jaflue political commentator. Joana jarjue a political commentator as well. Alex armstrong. Im as well. Alex armstrong. Im hoping that shortly we are going to be hearing a little bit from, Suella Braverman yesterday, but, john, ill come to you on this. Do you have reservations about whether or not multiculturalism, everythings rosy in the garden there . No, everythings not rosy, of course. And the battle has to go on all the time. For my generation, it was all about the holocaust. And once youd gone through that, when i was 15, i think i went to one of the concentration camps. You know, we were very much part of that generation, which would think that anyone who was remotely anti semitic was deeply evil. You know, that was just straightforward, good, bad , but straightforward, good, bad, but every generation changes anti semitism is hundreds of years old. Youve got to keep up the battle and its also true of lots of other problems about racial issues and all the rest of it. The idea that you can just say, oh, weve done that now. Were all, were all weve sorted that. No, youve never sorted that. No, youve never sorted out. People have got to keep up the battle and realise that every day. Sometimes youve got to think, wait a moment. This is in fact unpleasant. Its racist. We should fight against it. Okay . Its not just. Its not just anti semitism here. I know. Give me a couple of examples. And there does appear to be this huge explosion in it at the moment, but because of gaza. Yeah. Yeah. Because yeah. Because because yeah. Because because of world events. Because of whats going on. But, joanna, do you think that multiculturalism in britain is a Success Story or indeed for that matter , anywhere indeed for that matter, anywhere indeed for that matter, anywhere in europe . I mean, were going to talk a bit later on about Geert Wilders in the netherlands. I mean, someone like him wouldnt come to power if a load of people in the netherlands did not think there was an issue with their culture. Well, i think that overall multiculturalism hasnt failed. I think that, you know, people generally do live together, you know , nicely. Obviously theres know, nicely. Obviously theres extreme elements , but i think extreme elements, but i think that, you know, theres two sides to this as well. Its another thing where theres two sides, for example, with islamophobia thats gone up 600 after the october 7th attacks as well. And i think that a lot of the time when we have this conversation about multiculturalism and about integration and assimilation , integration and assimilation, when we talk about, for example, people of the muslim faith coming in, but it almost seems as if we dont talk about it when it comes to both sides as well. Do you think, alex, that some cultures integrate better than others . Well, yeah, its a fact , well, yeah, its a fact, isnt it . We know thats a fact for sure. Lets look at germany. They released their Crime Statistics by ethnicity. And per 100,000 people, algerians by a massive margin, its 52 per 100,000 people were committing crime versus germans at 1. 9. Thatis crime versus germans at 1. 9. That is an incredible statistic. Theres a reason why our government dont want to release those statistics, because theyre worried it will cause people to start actually becoming more anti immigrant, because we know those statistics are there. And so the problem is, is assimilation right, a failure to assimilate . Can i just say one really important thing . I think when it comes to assimilation, i think that certain cultures get away with not assimilating. So, for example, with the jewish faith, youll have certain boroughs within london where rightfully so , they want to live within so, they want to live within their own community, around their own community, around their own community, around their own shops. But when we have that same conversation about muslim people wanting to live near, you know , halal live near, you know, halal shops, then thats a problem, then theyre not assimilating. Okay okay. Well, weve heard from my panel well, weve heard from my panel, lets hear now from the former home secretary, Suella Braverman. So as now many people know, i was out and about with her yesterday in cambridge. This is some unseen footage from that walkabout, this idea with her. They are fostering an environment which supports British Values. Yeah. Which is uniting people rather than allowing sectarian , politics to allowing sectarian, politics to rip, rip them apart. Okay. All right. I was hoping for a slightly longer clip there, but anyway. Suella braverman was basically saying that she was concerned that with some of the protests that were seeing outside universities or with some of the issues that were seeing demonstrations now on the streets, that the problem is that it is allowing a situation to foster where people who do not share our values or do not have British Values or do not actually particularly like britain, maybe have a platform to consistently shout about their views. John. Well, its a difficult it is a difficult time. Theres no a difficult time. Theres no doubt that whats happening in the middle east is polarising opinion across the world. Its making it extremely difficult for us to continue with the sort of straightforward israel as our ally , is under terrific strain ally, is under terrific strain in terms of politics, with biden saying theyve gone too far. Im not going to supply them with arms. Britain saying no, well continue supplying israel with arms. Theyre our ally. What happens if theyre attacked by iran with missiles and british arms could help them . All these issues there, mean that for lots of people, this is a moment where they want to demonstrate theyre showing their feelings andifs theyre showing their feelings and its pumped up, of course, by the photographs. Can i just say, you know , as can i just say, you know, as a bit of a, you know, difference to my usual opinion, my stepfathers from iran. He came to this country, hes contributed here. Hes paid his taxes. He works hard. Hes raised a family , and hes really raised a family, and hes really settled into our society. And, you know, theres something to be said about people who want to come here and make a good life. But what were seeing, though, is unfortunately, a Younger Generation of people coming here who dislike the west. Now, thats a really important point , because its important point, because its funny you should mention iran, actually, because i was i was jogging actually, because i was i was jogging the other week and some guy who turned out to be from iran stopped me. Were having quite a good chat. And he said he came over years and years and years ago. And he said to me, this is in maida vale, which is near where this Islamic Centre is, the iranian Islamic Centre is. And he said to me, he said, you dont know what youre doing in this country. There was his generation that he says came over and he says the generation after him are radical and haters. He just said that they haters. He just said that they hate us and theyre not shy about hating us. And its tricky, though, isnt it, joanna . Because weve got such a complex web now of people of different cultures, different identities, maybe its unreasonable to expect all of them to integrate into British Culture seamlessly. Well, i think it depends. Again what you mean by integration. If you mean leave all of your cultures behind, dont you know, eat certain foods and then, you know, only have fish and chips and roast dinners . Some people are literally like, leave that behind. Like respect our way of life dont actually dislike it, you know. Yeah. No, absolutely. I think that obviously everybody, anybody who lives in this country shouldnt i mean, if you hate it that much, i mean, obviously youre in your right to kind of critique it. I dont think that that should be stopped. But if you actively hate it so much, then that is a problem , but what then that is a problem, but what i think is a problem with Suella Braverman is that she stokes a lot of these things. And when you call it a hate march and you put people on the defensive, then you create this dividing line. And i think that that is a huge problem where we have politicians who we should respect and who should be beacons was bringing everybody. She was home. She was home secretary when she said this. I know absolutely not backing down on that i know, but she the point about this is when you think of an Old Fashioned what i would regard as an Old Fashioned home secretary, their job was to keep the temperature down, not increase it, not say, god , look increase it, not say, god, look at this hate marching. Look at this, look at that. Well, you know that was their job. Theirjob well, you know that was their job. Their job was to well, you know that was their job. Theirjob was to make sure theres much peace broke out as possible. I also think our job is to tell the truth. And they are, in my view, tell the truth. God. Coming up, i will dissect and analyse what we learned from suella gripping showdown with a communist student last night. So you have no view on hamas and you have no message for hamas, and you have no , im not hamas, and you have no, im not here to connection to us. Youre not here, right . So you dont have a connection to hamas. Okay. And so whats your message 7 okay. And so whats your message . Do you believe israel has a right to exist west. Yes. Okay. So im quite revealing answers there. Burnett with Geert Wilders readying himself for an immigration showdown with the European Union as he tries to shore up hollands borders. Will illegal immigration actually break up the eu . And is it happening now . Yes, i think it possibly is. So stay tuned for that. Dutch mep mikael hoogeveen gives us his expert insight and thats next. Welcome back to Patrick Christys. Tonight now, an almighty row has broken out between the netherlands and the European Union. After the new dutch government promised to opt out of the blocs asylum rules. Announcing its immigration policy on thursday , the new policy on thursday, the new Coalition Said an opt out clause for european asylum and migration policies will be submitted as soon as possible. Now that was done, really to try to fend off a vote in the netherlands about leaving the European Union. But the European Union has slammed it and said it aint happening any time soon. So are we now witnessing immigration finally being the thing that rips Continental Europe apart . Im joined now by dutch mep michael hoogeveen. Thank you very much. This feels big. Geert wilders is in power now. Hes got his coalition whats going to happen . Well, first of all, were very glad that we finally have a government and we finally have a government and we finally have a government thats taking action on this very pressing issue. Its been one of the top issues for dutch voters in decades, and nothing has been concretely done in order to reduce the influx of illegal immigration. So theres some theres a lot needs to be done and a lot needs to be done in brussels. Okay but whats he going to do . I mean, this guy wanted to ban mosques at one point. Is he still going to do that . Still going to do that . Well, weve been in the netherlands. Weve been looking quite jealously on to the danish model. The danish model has a they have an opt out for these, very stringent rules and regulations coming from brussels when it comes to immigration. So the danes, they can put more strict, stringent measures on, for example, family reunification or on, more, the policies on that. They need to learn the danish language. But this is not allowed under european law. So weve been trying to, come up with this opt out for a long time. So its good that the new government is now trying to go to brussels and try to get this opt out done. So when the people of the netherlands go to brussels and they say , this is what we want, they say, this is what we want, and brussels says, no, which they will do, you have to try to to vote leave the European Union. Well, the funny thing is , well, the funny thing is, when you talk to brussels, when you come up with certain proposals, such as getting rid of the veto rights for Member States when it comes to legislation , they all cheer and legislation, they all cheer and they say, oh, youre such an ambitious european. But when you come in terms of legislation where you say, well, we want to put the brakes on immigration, all of a sudden they say, no, no, no, no, no, this is not possible. This is not allowed. This is not allowed according to the treaties. So its very selective. And we dont only see this in the coming from brussels, its also coming from the left. Politicians and the irony here, the irony here. Miquelon. Were gonna be quite quick with this is youre not actually really talking about european immigration, are you . This is immigration from nonh you . This is immigration from north africa, from the middle east, from africa as well. You know, the type of immigration that sees rapid cultural change. Yeah yeah. Were seeing this immigration. They arrive on boats in italy or greece and they travel. They have been travelling through multiple safe countries. They travel, travel across europe, across these safe countries. So theyre already, in that sense, half asylum. But in that sense, half asylum. But they see the netherlands and in they see the netherlands and in the past also the united kingdom. Youre, giving it some more, strict, stringent measures on your own side, but obviously were very attracted as countries, so were attractive to these migrants. And were, were now saying, no, we have a problem with housing. We have a problem with housing. We have a problem with housing. We have a problem with that. Exactly. And countries are attractive for a reason. This didnt countries didnt just become attractive overnight by chance , countries became chance, countries became attractive because people worked very hard to make them attractive countries. And they attractive countries. And they dont need to just be handed out to everybody who wants to come. There should be some National Pride and all of that. Look. Thank you michael, i do hope to talk to you again. Talk to you for a bit longer as well. Sorry that it was so short. As michael hoogeveen, the dutch mep. Now hoogeveen, the dutch mep. Now next i explain what suella is most explosive showdown with the communist student fiona lally tells us about the pro palestine hard left wreaking havoc in this country. There was that interaction, lack of really at Cambridge University yesterday. I do reveal some quite astonishing things that happened behind the scenes. Stay tuned. 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Why is this conflict happening in the first place . Who is responsible for it . Who is . For it . Who is . Yeah, the truth always comes out. Plus this is britains migrant hotel. King. I will tell migrant hotel. King. I will tell you how much money he makes every single day. And it was two weeks ago that people first started to feel sick and people were contacted southwest water to say, look, the water doesnt taste right. It water disgrace. Heads must roll over infected tap water and its just the lack of empathy that i find hard, hard to believe for people that have. Imagine what how desperate things have got to be to, you know, jump in a dinghy. When will gary shut up . Ive got tomorrows newspapers tonight with journalistic royalty. John. Sergeant apprentice finalist, joana jaflue apprentice finalist, joana jarjue and political commentator Alex Armstrong. Okay. And what caused this . Judith raanan on caused this . Judith raanan on a sunday . And by sunday and by. And by sunday and by. Get ready, britain. Here we go. Its time for the truth about the student protests. Next. The student protests. Next. Very good evening to you. Its just after 10 00. The headunes its just after 10 00. The headlines from the newsroom tonight. Headlines from the newsroom tonight. Israels Prime Minister says the deaths of three hostages whose bodies have been recovered from gaza are heartbreaking. The Israeli Defence forces confirmed the three bodies were discovered overnight but didnt give details of where they were found. Among three the hostages was 22 year old shani luke, whose twisted remains were photographed on the back of a pickup truck. Israel now thinks about 100 hostages are still alive, while another 30 are thought to be dead. Here, a thought to be dead. Here, a terrorist who stabbed a 70 year old man to death in the street has been jailed for at least 44 years. Ahmed ali ali murdered Terence Carney last october in revenge, he said, for the israel Hamas Conflict, the court heard the 45 year old Asylum Seeker had already tried to kill his housemate before attacking the pensioner. Shadow home secretary Yvette Cooper says his conviction exposes an alarming catalogue of failings in the home offices handling of his asylum claim. A teacher asylum claim. A teacher convicted of having sex with two schoolboys has been described as a predator. Rebecca schoolboys has been described as a predator. Rebecca jones was already suspended from her job and on bail for having sex with and on bail for having sex with a 15 year old when she began another sexual relationship with another sexual relationship with a second teenager, aged 16, and she then became pregnant during her two week trial, the High School Teacher told the court that she craved attention and struggled following the breakdown of a nine year relationship. She did, though, deny the allegations against her. The 3030 year old will be sentenced in july. The Uk Health Security Agency says the number of confirmed cases of cryptosporidium in devon has doubled to 46. More than 100 people have also reported symptoms of the diarrhoea inducing illness. 16,000 homes and businesses have been told that a parasite got into their Water Supplies after possible contamination from cow manure. South west water is now offering bottled water to residents and has also increased compensation from £15 to now £115. Hundreds of Border Force Officers at Heathrow Airport are set to strike at the end of half term in a row over their rotors, 500 members of the pcs union will walk out for three days, starting on the 31st of this month. Its expected the strike action will disrupt passport checks for travellers coming to the uk. Two Police Officers who the uk. Two Police Officers who took a two hour meal break for a kebab on the night of the Manchester Arena attack, have been handed final written warnings. Been handed final written warnings. Their absence meant that there were no officers patrolling the area when salman abedi made his final approach, and then later detonated his explosive, the Police Watchdogs also recommended that the British Transport Police apologise to the families of the victims. And finally, in the us, victims. And finally, in the us, world number one golfer Scottie Scheffler has been charged with multiple offences. Court records there show that scheffler had been booked on four charges, which included Second Degree assault of a police officer. The masters champion was handcuffed on his way to the pga championship this morning, but he was able to arrive on course in time for a tee off in the second round of the event. Hes described the arrest as a big misunderstanding, following what he called a very chaotic situation, and we now know he has closed the day five under par, two shots behind the leader. Thats the latest from the newsroom. Another update at 11 00. Until then, you can sign up to gb news alerts by scanning the code on your screen. Or go to gb news. Com slash alerts. To gb news. Com slash alerts. Yeah. Welcome along. So yesterday, former home secretary Suella Braverman went to cambridge to try to engage with pro palestine squatters at the university and she was met with a wall of silence. What are you here protesting about . About . Might not get a better opportunity than this to talk. Whats your message to the Palestinian People . Whats your Palestinian People . Whats your message to hamas . Whats your message to hamas . Whats your message to hamas . Whats your message to israel . Hi, im suella im keen to find out your views and what youre protesting about. Nothing at all. Nothing at all. Im really keen to hear what your message is to israel. Yeah your message is to israel. Yeah well, loads of people on twitter piled in and said, oh, this is hilarious. Theyve blanked her because they wanted to mug her off, etc. Well, look, i will tell you why they dont really want to talk and why they were masks. So most of those campers are not actually students at the university. The revolutionary university. The revolutionary communist party and other far left organisations set up a few tents and they send representatives to start these camps. They pretend to be students at universities, and they hope that this will be the catalyst to spark a much bigger protest. Now, if they didnt wear masks like this lot did, and they engage more with the media, it would become pretty obvious pretty quickly that they arent actually students at those universities and that they myth of a massive student rebellion will be shattered. So so heres another reason why they dont want to talk. Ive been to a few of these demonstrations now, and the same thing happens every single time. 1 or 2 self appointed Group Leaders follows us around and other outlets. By the way , this other outlets. By the way, this is not just a gb news thing. If the bbc turned up and did that, they would have got the same response, i guarantee you. But anyway, they follow us around telling every Single Person not to talk to us. So heres the evidence. This is what happened at oxford. We chat with you about why you feel so strongly. About why you feel so strongly. Why dont we dont think. Sorry, im new here, but do you want to talk, though . Because its. Yeah. Because its. Yeah. I mean, ijust they because its. Yeah. I mean, i just they asked me not to. Yeah. This happened in peckham. Oh. Gb news off gb news off. Gb news off. Gb news off. Gb news just want to know. Gb news just want to know. Yeah. And this also happened to us outside westminster. This guy. But i back off, so he wanted to talk. He approached me, he approached me , you know. Approached me, you know. So people want to talk to you or you are actively engaging with somebody and then, you know, the usual types rock up and they get right involved. So, so they silenced the crowd. So that that happens everywhere you go. All right. So that is really one of the main reasons why they dont want to talk to you. But one thing that was interesting about this cambridge demonstration was that some of the people telling the youngsters not to engage appeared to actually be members of staff. Now, one thing i will say about this is that you get caughtin say about this is that you get caught in this kind of doom loop, right . So members of staff at this university tell all of the students there, do not engage, do not engage. And then when you go to them, they say, well , look, why dont you when you go to them, they say, well, look, why dont you just ask the students what they think, having obviously already told them , along with a few told them, along with a few other people, not to talk to you. And we do have some footage of that. Sorry. So i was talking as a staff observer. So were here to ensure that the students free speech rights are protected. So you should ask the students if youve got any questions. So staff are actually involved in this are they. Yes. So serving as a staff observer okay. So do you support the process here . Im not answering any questions. You have to direct questions. You have to direct the questions to the students okay. But you are a member of staff. Yes. And youre here. Yes yes. And youre here. Yes yes. And youre here. Yes yes. So you end up in a situation where other people get involved and they dont want to talk to you. But this is hardly surprising, though, considering members of the academic staff at cambridge were very vocal on twitter about so called students stonewalling Suella Braverman someone called nicholas guyatt. I dont know who they are. They probably wrote a book once, 20 years ago about the eu, and now theyre, you know, semi famous. But anyway, congratulations to the students, faculty and passers by who ensured that when Suella Braverman came to cambridge today, there was no one for her to talk to save her gb news handlers. Just fyi, we did not actually have any gb news handlers. But anyway, i know for a fact that some people at cambridge and other demonstrations did actually want to talk and did engage. Youve seen a couple of examples in the clips there, but theyre actually too scared to do so in case they upset militant camp leaders. Now, i actually know this, especially for a fact, because people there have told me, ive seen it with my own eyes and because i receive messages like the one i received yesterday whilst i was on the train back from cambridge, which said this. Hi patrick, i would not have wanted to speak for the encampment at the time , which encampment at the time, which has a respectable policy of asking to Media Contact them first before visiting, but happy to talk for myself. It was good to talk for myself. It was good to talk for myself. It was good to meet you too. Someone there who had the people from the encampment not been telling them not to talk would have been perfectly happy to have a conversation on camera. Okay, but there is of course , another but there is of course, another major reason why they dont want anyone to engage with the media. Its because the second that you scratch the surface, it emerges that israel might not have a right to exist. They wont condemn hamas. They dont seem to care about women being raped. On october 7, and they dont think the hostages should be released have a right to exist. This is the wrong question. Well i am well, okay. I think thats quite. I think thats quite. And should the hostages be released, listen. Like why is there why is this conflict happening in the first place . Who is responsible for it . Who is the responsible . Do you believe women were raped on october 7 by hamas . I believe there is a lot of violence taking place across that whole region. That whole region. The other thing, of course, is that its not actually all about palestine. A lot of it is about palestine. A lot of it is about overthrowing capitalism. About overthrowing capitalism. It is actually your main argument for you is you want to smash the capitalist system. Absolutely. Because capitalism produces war and produces imperialism, which fundamentally has been driving everything that has happened over the last 76 years. It isnt just about the last seven months or anything like this, but i would just point out, you know , would just point out, you know, youn would just point out, you know, your, your, your trainers, your, your, your, your trainers, your, your bracelet , everything youre your bracelet, everything youre wearing, the coffee you had this morning, the car you drove by workers, the car you drove in today are all products of capitalism. Capitalism. Okay, look, i just think that all of this is worth bearing in mind, especially when it comes to whether or not any business, institution or university should give in to these peoples demands. If they do , they are demands. If they do, they are not buckling under the weight of massive people , power and human massive people, power and human pressure. They are actually giving in to a few radicals, often pretending to be students who are card carrying communists that wont even acknowledge that women were raped on october the 7th. Is that who you really want to give into . But lets get the thoughts of my panel this evening. Im joined by former bbc chief Political Correspondent john sergeant. I have got an entrepreneur apprentice finalist, joana jaflue apprentice finalist, joana jarjue and Alex Armstrong as well. Political commentator, look, alex, ill start with you, you know, do you really think that people should be giving in to these kind of individuals . You know, theyre not actually really who they say they are, like these people . Yeah, well, you you said it yourself , patrick. Theres yourself, patrick. Theres people who, with deep political motivations , are infiltrating motivations, are infiltrating these processes when they dont just do it to this. Theyve done it at multiple, multiple protests over the course of time. We saw in the united states, undercover journalists go into the camps and they found extreme communist propaganda with words written up on the screen saying, crush the west. The us shouldnt exist , israel the us shouldnt exist, israel shouldnt exist, uk shouldnt exist. And so what were seeing is these paid activists from the communist party go in and make this situation 50 times worse. Theyre also, you know, theyre pushing them to say ridiculous things about the attacks on israel, saying that this is all propaganda and making them believe it with zero evidence. And the reason why theyre not saying anything. These students, patrick, and you said it yourself, is because when they do open their mouths, they come out with things that end up with their visa being cancelled. Yeah. Well, yeah. Yeah. Well, yeah. Yeah. Well, yeah. Well, why do they need to be students in order to. Well, the theyre saying its a student protest. Well , a student protest. Well, yeah, its a student protest. Maybe youll have students and then you have people that come along and support the students. Its not like its just everybody kind of masquerading. At the end of the day, theyre there to fight and, cause for a cause that is to do with university is its to do with university is its to do with universities indirectly funding some of the weapons and some of the things that are killing palestinians. So i think that its about the wider cause rather than saying, oh , show us rather than saying, oh, show us your student card in order to be able to. Able to. Its not a question about are you who you say you are really is the thing. And its one thing trying to portray that there are there is a small army of students, john, out there, who are doing what students have done throughout history, which is, you know, just engage in political things, have various protests, etc. But if actually what has happened is that essentially the communist party has pitched a few tents up outside and hope that that kick starts some kind of american style rally, well, then maybe the public should know about that. No, im sure i think everyone should know as much as they can about all these things. The truth is, the real truth is that students dont know very much about politics. S they have very strong feelings. They do want to protest and they want to show those feelings because it also sort of implies that theyre growing up and theyre becoming more mature. Theyre thinking about the world. But of course, its real. Politics is full of dilemmas and difficult issues and all sorts of ironies and things which for a young person they find this quite difficult to cope with the idea of. But if youre against israel, can you just be against the Israeli Government . Do you think israel should exist . Well, thats a bit should exist . Well, thats a bit tricky, isnt it . What to do about hamas . They also help them coordinate, and i actually think that its a good thing that they advise them not to speak to anyone. No its not, of course its absolutely not. Joanna. Come on. It is a good to say to students that you shouldnt exercise your freedom of speech because you might Say Something stupid is demeaning to them, but not only that, the problem is youll get it. Youll get well, it is true. Then then maybe they shouldnt be out protesting, john. Exactly. They dont know what theyre talking about. What are you. We go, we see people go to protest. All the time. Do you know the meaning of intifada . Im sorry, but what it means. If you dont know the meaning of intifada, you shouldnt be screaming calls for intifada. The reality is, is that theyre living in an echo chamber , and theyre getting chamber, and theyre getting only communist propaganda, which is plaguing the minds of these young people. And its radicalising. But theyll grow up if the ones who are interested in politics, who are really interested, theyll theyll pass over this because theyll become more interested in the middle east. Theyll think, how did this happen . How can we improve the happen . How can we improve the situation . Do they have to be two states, two states . So israel has got to exist. Wheres that state going to be . Alongside a palestinian state . Well, thats tricky, but the more they understand it. Also, their enthusiasm at the moment may turn out to be a mature interest in what to do when was there a rule to say that if you want to go out and protest and show your solidarity by just being present there as a human and holding up a flag, the some of the kind of rules is that youve got to speak to the media and, and i understand that. But i think , well, i know but i think, well, i know really that the bigger concern there is that if they did open their mouths, what actually tumbles out of it is things like israel doesnt have a right to exist is things like theres no need for hamas to release the hostages and that actually is part of what this code of silence is from those organisations. And they frankly, frankly, look and the lack of the thing about these people coming in from the communist party and these other extreme organisations is that theyre perpetuate these values onto these young people. And johns right. Theres certain young people that will grow out of it, but theres many of them will not take an active interest in politics after this. They wont learn about the system and they wont learn how many tens of millions of people died under communism when they hit rihanna, when they hit reality, when they hit reality, and theyre really in a position to say, what do we now do in this situation . Were in the government. Should the should the government do this, should that . Protesting is one thing arguing and knowing is one thing arguing and knowing is completely different. Well, i think that its obviously such a contentious issue and it always depends on which area somebody is coming from. If somebodys talking about, you know, does israel has about, you know, does israel has a right, have a right to defend itself after october 7th . Is somebody talking all the way, way back in the nakba . And i think that some of these students recognise that theyre not sophisticated enough to be able to conversate. Able to conversate. They shouldnt be there, actually. Why not . You know why they dont understand the situation. Let me be allowed to protest for sure. But dont go and start screaming intifada. You know youre talking about everyones. Everyones allowed everyones. Everyones allowed to protest and there may well be something one day that i feel so strongly enough that i will want to set up a tent outside a particular building, and i and i support everybodys right to do that. What i will say, though, is i think a lot of these people i know, a lot of these people are pretending to be things that they know, i. E. Cambridge students, and theyre not. Theyre essentially hired in. Right. And i know that one of the main reasons why theyre covering their faces is because they dont want to reveal their views. The other fact is that they are being told not to talk by these kind of radicals. And i just think when its in the context of something, im going to be talking about next, which is universities, institutions or politicians giving in to these people. I think its important to know exactly who they are and what they have. A spokesperson on that will be able to communicate that properly. Can i do we have time for me to ask you a question . Yeah, i just want to ask in these contexts and when weve got the protests and when youve got the protests and when youve got suella in the interview, why is it that we only ask the person who is pro palestinian , person who is pro palestinian, you know, what they think of hamas . Should israel have a right to . Because she was there, she was there to have a conversation with those people and they didnt want to talk. They could have any one of those 50 people also that were there, could have asked if you were there. Youd have asked her that. This is the thing. Joanna lets be honest about it. Right . If you were there, that would have been great. And she wouldnt have got a gotcha moment out of you because youre super intelligent. You know exactly what you youre on about. Youre capable of handung about. Youre capable of handling yourself in this situation. It wouldnt have been some kind of ridiculous gotcha. You would have just had a great conversation. Thats not what im saying. What im saying is that broader and im not just talking about that specific interview im talking about in the context of when we have one pro palestinian and one pro israel israeli person. Why is it that were person. Why is it that were always trying to hammer that question out of them, of what they think about hamas and what they think about hamas and what they think about hamas and what they think about . If israel has a right to exist . Earlier on, i was talking about the fact that senior members of the Israeli Government have literally said that they dont , you know, that they dont, you know, acknowledge a Palestinian Statehood for some people. Statehood for some people. That is also those people arent here in the uk. Theres not a encampment of israeli people camped outside of parliament university. So theyre getting theyre getting more air time and more conversations. This israeli but but yes, but theyre not the ones like, im sorry, i am, am. Youll never know what i was going to say. Well, i will because i think ive got a feeling well crowbar it in later. All right. Okay. Okay. Now coming up, coming up, coming up, brawl and order. Okay. It really kicked off in the Taiwanese Parliament earlier today on a sunday. And by sunday and by. And by sunday and by. Ill tell you what, what caused it . I know, i know, its mad anyway. Right. More of that and all of tomorrows newspaper front pages. Very very shortly. But first but first, this is this is going to be interesting. So Cambridge University students, as we were hearing, were left devastated after graduation ceremonies were moved because of some of those protests that we brought to you yesterday. I visited that camp with Suella Braverman and we obviously got a cheery welcome, as everybody knows, didnt we . You know, when you tell your friends later that you had an opportunity to talk to suella and they say, what did you do . And you turned your back . Sorry. And you turned your back . Sorry. Yes. But that camp, that particular camp is quite its quite interesting. And im going to be joined by a university of cambridge professor and quite an outspoken critic, james orr , and outspoken critic, james orr, and possibly a student themselves as well. So stay tuned welcome back to Patrick Christys. Tonight on gb news. A very first look at all of tomorrows newspaper front pages. But first, graduating students at Cambridge University have been left devastated after this weekends ceremonies were moved because of the pro palestine protest. If you pro palestine protest. If you can even call them that. By the way, theres about eight tents full of people who im convinced dont even go to the university. Dont even go to the university. Anyway, weve done that. Cambridges graduation ceremonies have taken place at senate house since the 18th century, but this pro palestine camp on the lawn outside the building has put paid to that tradition. So alongside the former home secretary, Suella Braverman , i had the pleasure of braverman, i had the pleasure of visiting this camp yesterday. Can i just say this . This is can i just say this . This is this is the scale of the camp that has apparently brought Cambridge University to its knees. Your message to israel . No response. I just wonder, you know, when you tell your friends later that you tell your friends later that you had an opportunity to talk to suella and they say, what do you do when you turned your back . He says, its a liberated zone. So i dont know if you can see the sign there, a sign there that says liberated zone, right . Okay. Interesting. This is okay. Interesting. This is ouridea okay. Interesting. This is our idea of liberation. Presumably standing in the rain, getting wet. Masks on balaclavas. Masks on balaclavas. Right. So at cambridge for palestine, the group supposedly running these protests have now agreed to move their camp away from senate house after the university caved in and agreed to negotiate with them. But that didnt come soon enough for today and tomorrows graduation ceremonies, which have apparently been moved to an undisclosed location. Now im very pleased to say im joined now by the associate professor of philosophy of religion at the university of cambridge, james orr, and oliver howes, who is a graduating economics student at the university. Both of you, thank you very, very much. And i thank you very, very much. And i will start with oliver, if thats okay. Its possibly slightly more directly relevant to you, my good man. In this case. Well, how do you feel about the possibility, then, that your graduation might be moved because of some of these these camps or these tents . What do you make of it . I mean , so im expecting to i mean, so im expecting to graduate, in a months time at senate house, i dont know exactly whether ill be able to do so, i mean, you spoke earlier on about how these professional protesters failed to condemn hamas, i actually think its far , far worse than that in many cases, theyre leading chants of up, up the liberation senate house, where i hope to graduate in a month, they renamed raffertys house after rafat ali, who they portray as just some noble and martyred palestinian poet, some noble and martyred palestinian poet , who actually palestinian poet, who actually mocked the victims of october the 7th. Celebrated the attacks on october the 7th. So in over the sign of senate house, we instead had rafah house, so its not just a case of failure to condemn hamas. Not just a case of failure to condemn hamas. Its worse, its condemn hamas. Its worse, its in many cases open support. And if and this may well very much impact my graduation. All right. Impact my graduation. All right. I impact my graduation. All right. I really, really all right. I really, really revealing. Im going to come back to you, oliver james revealing. Im going to come back to you, oliverjames ill back to you, oliver james ill bnng back to you, oliver james ill bring you in. Thank you very much for giving us your time tonight. But much for giving us your time tonight. But i couldnt help but nofice tonight. But i couldnt help but notice that there were a few of your colleagues yesterday who seemed to be quite supportive of what was going on. How does that make you feel . Is that a concern . And especially to see that the university is in some way actually giving in to these people, well , good to be with people, well, good to be with you, patrick. Look, feelings run very high on this issue as they do on many other issues, and i suspect my own issues are probably my own position on these issues. Is very much in a minority among colleagues. But thats not really the question. I mean, the question is , are we free to question is, are we free to express these views . Are these students free to protest and express their views . And my view is absolutely its a sacrosanct right for them to be able to express their position. It was very sad yesterday that, you know, after a lot of battling over free speech in cambridge over free speech in cambridge over the last 3 or 4 years, that when given the right to express themselves freely, they decided not to say anything at all, so but look that thats that, thats up to them. I think the concern here with the, ceremonies , the shifting of the ceremonies, the shifting of the ceremonies, the shifting of the ceremonies, i mean, that there i think that crosses a line, in my view. I mean, there are certain obvious limits to freedom of speech within the university criminal damage, threatening and offensive behaviour, threatening behaviour , violent behaviour is behaviour, violent behaviour is obviously included in that. But also, i think , major disruptions also, i think, major disruptions to the life and working of the university. And i think, you university. And i think, you know, Graduation Day, the most important event in the life day in the life of any student friends and families flying in from all across the world, coming in from all across the country, that is something i think that would count as, as an appropriate limit on on the protest. If the protests were protests at a degree ceremony, for example, that in my view, should be okay. That is something that the university should sort of should tolerate and, and permit, even if many of us find the views that are being expressed ignorant and offensive, the other concern i have, patrick, is this idea that the universities the university is entering into negotiations with these protests, the protesters and the idea that it might be making concessions, the idea that it might be divesting from companies connected to israel. Now, that seems to me to compromise very seriously the principle of institutional neutrality. The university of neutrality. The university of cambridge should have no political views about anything , political views about anything, especially not an issue as contentious as the israel gaza war. Okay, oliver, can i just ask you on a on a personal level . Look, you dont with the ironically, with the possible exception of some of the people who were at these protests, by the way, you dont just wander into Cambridge University, right . You must have worked incredibly hard your entire life, be a very intelligent chap and have no doubt done very, very well over the course of your academic tenure at cambridge. And right at the end of it, when you are graduating in the coming weeks or whenever it is , this particular incident it is, this particular incident could be could be marring it. And how does that make you feel . And how does that make you feel . I mean, its less than ideal. I as, professor orr said, i wholeheartedly support the rights of these students to protest, but again, when its ruining the Graduation Day of the postgraduate students who graduated today and those who will graduate tomorrow, it oversteps the line very much, and again , as has been and again, as has been mentioned, people flying in from overseas, thats not the for case me. But, my parents will have to be making a, well, several hundred mile carjourney , and id hope for them to experience , graduation at senate experience, graduation at senate house as opposed to at some other location as a result of protesters , deciding that their protesters, deciding that their view on the conflict is the only possible right view and holding the rest of the university to ransom. And just just before i go back to james for the final word on this, oliver, can i ask you, how has this impacted or how have the views of some of the people at the moment, some of these these these protesters at these these these protesters at the university affected you or people you know or dare i say, i dont know, maybe jewish students, for example, who are more pro israel. Whats the kind of impact been there and the social impact . Social impact . I mean, i cant and i wouldnt want to speak for anyone other than myself, but theres been a lot of chanting of things which, in my opinion , of things which, in my opinion, are completely unacceptable, completely delegitimize any kind of debate on the issue, completely delegitimize the state of israel as a construct and refused to. And there are a lot of the time they refuse to have any. Well, they refuse to acknowledge any zionism, which isnt even just a case of jewish israelis. The 20 of arab, the 20 of israels population that are Arab Israelis are also sees. Are Arab Israelis are also sees. Yeah, dispensing difficult stuff. Look, james, i we are going to have to be relatively quick about this, im afraid. But as a as someone who is who is working at university, who is at that university , what would your university, what would your message be to some of your colleagues who are actually endorsing this stuff . Well, my message to colleagues who are endorsing this stuff is, is really to endorse away. Youre free to endorse away. Youre free to express your views, provided you do it in a way that it isnt inciting violence or isnt creating a threatening and intimidating atmosphere on campus. Thats absolutely fine. But where protest tips into major disruptions to the life of the university , that is the university, that is something that is something that we should resist at all costs. And we should model at a place Like University , like like the Like University, like like the university of cambridge, how, how, how free speech should be conducted and what the proper limits are for the rest of the sector, to the extent that we can okay both if you look, thank you very, very much. And i do hope to chat to both of you again soon. And oliver, good luck with your graduation and whatever awaits next. All right. Take care both of you. As oliver has , graduating economics oliver has, graduating economics student at the university of cambridge and of course , the cambridge and of course, the associate professor of philosophy of religion at the university of cambridge. James, all great stuff. Now well, when i come back, im going to be giving you the very first of tomorrows front pages. But gobby gary lineker has popped up again as well. Itsjust again as well. Its just the lack of empathy that i find hard to believe for people that have. Imagine what how desperate things have got to to , be you know, jump in to, be you know, jump in a dinghy , yes. All right. Find out dinghy, yes. All right. Find out exactly what hes banging on about shortly. And yes , i will about shortly. And yes, i will be giving you all of the okay. Welcome back. Its time for tomorrows front pages. Lets do it. All right. We start lets do it. All right. We start with the i benefit system. Insiders reveal how targets are used to decide disability claims. Okay, i mean , is this a claims. Okay, i mean, is this a story . They use targets to decide disability claims . Yeah thats how it should be. Probably. Anyway, the guardian revealed alcohol abuse costs soar to £27 billion a year. The cost of alcohol abuse is laid bare in a new study that shows £27 billion a year spent in england on the health and social harms of drinking. I can only apologise, all right . I can only apologise, all right . I can only apologise. The daily express, apologise. The daily express, kings fighting spirit, he will lead d day tributes. Good stuff. Well, displaying an a indomitable spirit, the king will fulfil his duty and lead tributes in france to mark the 80th anniversary of the d day landings. Good stuff. I seem to remember a while back the french didnt want to invite us to a d day memorial. Didnt want to invite us to a d day memorial. And now here we d day memorial. And now here we are and the times protection for teachers , free speech on teachers, free speech on religion, push for change after protests and Death Threats so teachers will be given protection from blasphemy claims. This is going to be a big story. Actually, this probably one for the latest show tonight, i imagine, but, legal guarantees upholding teachers rights from my understanding of this is, is to try to make sure Something Like the Batley Grammar School incident doesnt happen again. Theres also that picture of, sadly , one of the picture of, sadly, one of the hostages, the israeli hostages found. The body was found. Right. Okay. So those are some of your front pages for now. Anyway, i am joined, of course, by my wonderful press pa. Weve by my wonderful press pa. Weve got former bbc and itv political chief, john sergeant, political commentator, apprentice finalist, joana jarjue and political commentator as well, Alex Armstrong. Now im just going to whiz it on to a big story that isnt going away anytime soon, and its residents in devon being told by south west water to boil their tap water because its infested with a diarrhoea, causing parasite, which is apparently called cryptosporidium, which does sound a little bit to me like something you might invest in, but apparently not. Unfortunately for the people who drank the parasite ridden water, around 46 have been taken ill. 16,000 households of business. Basically people have got awful, awful conditions and im a bit sick of these water companies. Sick of these water companies. John. Yeah, no, im sick of sick of them. I mean, we dont live there. Were not drinking that water, so we dont be that sick. Yeah, so we dont be that sick. Yeah, but no, it is extraordinary isnt it. And you just feel that right at the heart of this, the very simple point about separating water, rain water from sewage water. And if you dont, dont be surprised if at some point, whether its in the rivers, whether its in the lakes , whether its in the lakes, whether its in the drinking water, things go wrong because theyre simply not physically separated. Now, if you say it would cost billions, of course it would cost billions, but could we at least start getting on with all this . No, i agree, i actually seriously, i think this is and you see things as well. Ive got, you know, a declare an interest in this. I used to live in in the lake district. Its a beautiful part of the world. The idea that so raw sewage is being pumped into windermere, for goodness sake. Well , im windermere, for goodness sake. Well, im the president of the Arthur Ransome society. So speaking as a president at last position. Right. On god. Something powerful in the lake district. No, but i mean, all that windermere story is just so distressing. Its awful. Its awful. And, what should we do about this, johanna . What do we do . What do we do . Hold them to account. And also renationalise water. I dont think that theres been any bigger advert at the moment for doing that. You know, its not even now some sort of left wing type of ideological fantasy. Its literally people are getting sick from this and the cheek of them also to say, oh, well give you £15. Oh, we give you £100. Are you joking me . You have literally you basically signed a contract to say that you will keep me safe, that if i turn my tap on that i expect to not be puking up. This is this is the kind of thing that when people feel, you know, used to go abroad to say, oh, dont drink the tap water. Yeah, yeah, yeah, its devon now apparently there is, i think, a case for nationalising the waterways. Yeah. You know, i actually completely agree with johanna. I think we should start renationalising it. I know, look at that. Yeah, we should start renationalising these key industries. Because if privatisations fail, the cost of these companies goes up and up and up every year. And the service is clearly worse , and service is clearly worse, and theyre not doing their job, its also they should be prosecuted. Its also just its very its very offensive to all of us that they earn so much money. It is not just a bit more than the rest of us, but ten, 20 or 100 times more than us. Yeah. And you just think, wait a moment. What are they doing . Theyre messing things up. Yeah they are. I actually, i actually just seriously think this is this is one thing. Possibly more than that. Really unhes possibly more than that. Really unites people. And i think the tap water thing is, i know maybe , maybe the, the final straw should have been, you know, the local river being pumped full of sewage or people getting sick from swimming in the sea. I get all of that stuff. Or maybe some of the lakes i think when you turn your bloody tap on and you know, and this young womans in hospital for three weeks and she cant settle because you cant move one way or the other way, her mother complains about it. Goodness me. Goodness me. 40 year hospital on 40. 40 year hospital on 40. Yeah. No, its not on and theres no accountability. And i think they lie about it initially as well, which is which is always a problem where they say, oh no, theres nothing wrong. And then more people get sick. Youve got people driving to car parks to get well, sorry, its got to stop. Its not good andifs its got to stop. Its not good and its costing us a load of money. And no, we shouldnt bail them out. We should hold people to account, make them pay things back now. Now now. Things got pretty heated in the Taiwanese Parliament earlier today as lawmakers battled it out quite literally, in a bitter dispute about reforms to the chamber. Shall we have a little look on a sunday . And by a sunday by taoiseach. Oh oh. Oh, cause. Oh, cause. Oh, cause. So that was a fight, apparently about whether or not, like, lawmakers should have more power over the government , i power over the government, i think possibly, yes. By the looks of , i dont know, maybe. Looks of, i dont know, maybe. Anyway. All right, ive got more of tomorrow. Newspapers from pages , next, actually. So look, pages, next, actually. So look, make sure you stay tuned, and i will keep you welcome back to Patrick Christys tonight. And ive got more front pages for you. Lets do it. The independent chinese Opioid Epidemic killing six a week in the uk. This is a super strength synthetic drug. Up to 500 times stronger than morphine, apparently, is gripping britains streets. Theyve also got the picture story there of golf champion scheffler plays on after this bonker. Golf champion scheffler plays on after this bonker. Oh, hes after this bonker. Oh, hes arrested for it. Well they say assaulting police anyway. Lets go to the daily telegraph. Landlords face rent caps under laboun landlords face rent caps under labour. Shadow chancellor says there may be a case for enforcing local limits. Nhs secrecy must end as well as another story there, so yeah. Another story there, so yeah. Now this is interesting. A little one here. Funeral scandal spreads across uk. Now do you remember a few weeks ago, a couple of months ago, some issue, some weird issue going on at a funeral home somewhere . At a funeral home somewhere . Anyway, Funeral Homes across the country are now being investigated for mistreating the debt. Apparently theres a wild west industry that needs to be regulated. Six Police Forces are investigating allegations that bodies have been stored in self Storage Units left to decompose. I mean, it is friday decompose. I mean, it is friday night. I think you might have finished having your dinner now , finished having your dinner now, but we will leave that there. And the daily mail hunt warns families face £2,100 bill to pay for labour spending. Its quite an interesting tactic from jeremy hunt today stood in front of a sign that said labour tax hikes, as opposed to you know, normally they tell you what the tories are going to do or they tell you what the five point plan is. That one, you know. So jeremy hunt is now picked in front of signs saying labour tax hikes and its emphasised by the daily mail, theres also that story about those teacher facing jail for sleeping with two pupils. Lets go to the mirror, baby. Youre a rich to man sunak wealth up 120 million. Can i just say, i think actually this is really misogynistic. It is wives wealth thats up 120 million. Although to be fair, it is because shes essentially invested in her dads company. But there we go anyway. And theres some stuff about Paul Mccartney also being wadded. So mccartney also being wadded. So good for them. Really good for them. All right. Good for them. Really good for them. All right. Im joined again by my press pack. We know who they are. Its john sergeant. Itsjoana who they are. Its john sergeant. Its joana jarjue its Alex Armstrong. Now look, while ordinary brits are forking up millions of pounds a day to house Asylum Seekers, some lucky. So and so is raking it in. Hes found himself on the sunday times rich list that we were just hearing about. This is hotel owning tycoon graham king. Who makes. Are you ready for this . £3. 5 million a day from taxpayers cash to accommodate migrant arrivals . Their food, etc . Hes got a personal fortune now. £750 million. Alex ill start with you. Is he a great businessman or is he selling britain out . Britain out . Well, hes definitely selling britain out. Funnily enough. Patrick, me and you did covered this topic. Not last year. Yeah. And what struck me about this is his daughter. His daughter is making pictures that say, well, sell race for £10, will sell racist for refugees. And, you know, these are the kind of people clearly obviously shes benefiting from people coming to this country massively. And that this country massively. And that homes that hes putting people in are apparently dreadful. So, in are apparently dreadful. So, you know, quite frankly, whilst id love a bit of british unrwa entrepreneurial ism, this bloke is , is quite funny. Is, is quite funny. I spoke to the bloke earlier today who, who , composes the today who, who, composes the rich list. Right. And he says that, so they reach out to people. I said this guy wanted absolutely nothing to do with them. Hasnt responded to any emails. No it doesnt. I mean, he probably hate the fact that his face is everywhere, but, you know, hes got 3. 5 million reasons every single day to carry on doing it. Reasons every single day to carry on doing it. Youre youre carry on doing it. Youre youre a youre a businesswoman. Youre an entrepreneur. What do you make of that . As the resident lefty, i cant believe im saying this, but i know johanna. No, dont say it. No, dont say it. No, dont say it. I dont i mean, i dont see anything that wrong about it from his perspective , obviously, from his perspective, obviously, it stings from the public. Its coming from our purse. Obviously hes making a killing out of it, but really its misdirected angen but really its misdirected anger. As usual. Its the government. This is a public contract. I would have a problem contract. I would have a problem with this if he was one of the ministers mates, and if it was more tory sleaze, then fine. But really, technically hes not doing anything wrong. And actually, if the accommodation isnt up to par , then its again isnt up to par, then its again the governments fault. Why theyre not scrutinising more , theyre not scrutinising more, why theyre not opening up more of his market. I honestly bet he cant believe his luck. He was Something Like a taxi firm owner. Yeah essex way i cant remember. Youre commercial commercialising something that is deeply wrong. Right. And i think thats the problem. Its moral capitalism. Which. Joanne. Come on, this is. Moral capitalism. Which. Joanne. Come on, this is. Im. Im doing come on, this is. Im. Im doing your lines here, arent i . Its the governments fault. Weve the governments fault. Weve been drinking in the green room. No, its governments fault. Its them that are like. For sure. Itsjust its them that are like. For sure. Its just another public contract, you know, its the same with the nhs and other things very quickly, john, know. Look the government allowed this to happen. Yeah of course they should take the blame. But he takes the blame to after the war we called these people profiteers. Profiteers. Profiteers. Profiteers. Right. Okay. Now were going to ask you very quick here. So gary lineker appeared on ruth rogers table for podcast. Me rogers table for podcast. Me nehhen rogers table for podcast. Me neither. To have another pop at the government over not teaching cookery in schools, but he also used the opportunity to yet again, shame those who dont want an open border policy. Heres some gary lineker. Itsjust heres some gary lineker. Its just the lack of empathy that i find hard, hard to believe for people that have. Imagine what how desperate things have got to to , be you things have got to to, be you know, jump in a dinghy that and risk your life and your life of your children, to seek kind of sanctuary somewhere, and then not to be. Well received. And its i just i find it hard to understand. And i think its incomprehensible that you , i incomprehensible that you, i understand people some people dont have any empathy at all for anyone , yeah. I mean, he for anyone, yeah. I mean, he doesnt actually find it hard to understand. Hes being understand. Hes being deliberately disingenuous there, but, you know, it is gary lineker anyway, its time to reveal todays greatest britain and Union Jackass john, who is your greatest britain . Please. The greatest britain. Alan bates again, right . Hes the post office guy. But what i like is hes turned down the latest post office offer. Now, the reason why thats important is it means the fame he now has has not gone to his head. Hes actually still continuing to try and make sure that the people who suffered because of this terrible scandal should be properly recompensed. Okay. Properly recompensed. Okay. Go on, john mine is the brilliant guest that you had yesterday that was having a head to head with Suella Braverman fiona lilley. I think that she held her to account and actually she, i think she was running nngs she, i think she was running rings around her at some point. Rings around her at some point. So Great Britain for sure. Well, in complete contrast, mine Suella Braverman course to rematch for the rematch for the ages, for taking on of course and walking with you fairly well, well, well look, as one would expect. Of course todays winner is Suella Braverman. But there we go. But. But no, but but but i did i think i did think that, that fiona was, was exceptional yesterday. I didnt agree with anything she had to say, but for coming on and saying saying what she said certainly took some guts. I think, i think suella is slightly hamstrung by the fact that she has to be more polite than she may be wanted to, but anyway. Right. Sorry, john. Very quickly. Go anyway. Right. Sorry, john. Very quickly. Go on. Union jack carson. Okay, were back to the water companies. Liz garfield, shes a severn trent boss whos defending her multi million pay packet. Multi Million Pound pay packet. Multi Million Pound pay packet despite sewage spills by her Company Rising by a third in the past year. Ridiculous. Go on. Ridiculous. Go on. Ridiculous. Go on. John mine is a royal biographer and journalist. Christopher wilson. He put out a tweet after meghan and harrys trip to nigeria, basically comparing them to Wallis Simpson and her husband who abdicated the throne. Going to visit nazi germany and saying that nigel area was basically, not far short from nazi germany. Absolutely ridiculous. Okay. All right. All right. Alex, you might have one actually, if you put it forward, rebecca joins of course, is mine. She is the woman that has slept with an underage one. Underage boy, 15 year old and a 16 year old pupils of hers. Pretty disgraceful person. Yeah. And actually, i think it would be much more outrage about this. Can i would be much more outrage about this. Can i just say if this was a male teacher . But anyway. Right. Todays winner of the Union Jackass is rebecca. Join. So there we go. Right. Thank you, thank you, thank you. Great show. And thank you everybody whos been watching and listening, not just tonight but throughout the course of the week. Its headliners next. Ill see you on monday at 9 pm. Have a great weekend. A great weekend. A brighter outlook with boxt solar sponsors of weather on. Gb news. Hello and welcome to the latest forecast from the met office for gb news. Plenty of warm, sunny spells this weekend, but it wont be sunny or indeed dry everywhere. Therell be some cloud development, therell be some showers here and there. Were in between High Pressure and low pressure at the moment weather fronts are tending to stay away, but there is a feature thats been bringing some heavy rain to germany over the last couple of days , and the last couple of days, and thats just going to swing some cloud and outbreaks of rain into the far south east and east anglia overnight. And therell be some low cloud drifting into eastern scotland, north east england so grotty conditions first thing here on saturday. Otherwise further west, plenty of sunny spells, a fresh start. But soon enough where weve got the sunshine, it will warm up quickly. Where weve got the low cloud, its going to be slower to warm up and we will have some showery rain first thing along the south coast into kent, south wales, perhaps into southwest as the morning goes on. Wales, northwest england, southwest scotland plenty of warm sunshine but northeast england into eastern scotland low cloud and mist. Northern scotland likewise. That will take some time through the morning to burn back to the beaches. Northern ireland to the beaches. Northern ireland lots of cloud first thing that will tend to break up and allow some sunny spells to come through as the day goes on. So for the majority it is looking like a fine day. Therell be some decent sunny spells, but theyll also be showers developing as temperatures rise. The odd shower for wales, central and northern england, central and northern england, Central Scotland as well, particularly over the highlands, but the most frequent showers gb news. A very good evening to you. Youre watching and listening to gb news. Im sam francis, a look at the headlines. At 11 00. The bodies of three people who were kidnapped by hamas from a Music Festival on october the 7th have been found by the Israeli Military in gaza. The Israeli Defence forces confirmed the three bodies were discovered overnight from intelligence gained by interviewing captured hamas fighters among the three hostages was 22 year old shani loc, whose twisted remains were photographed on the back of a pickup truck. Israel says that pickup truck. Israel says that about 100 hostages may still be alive, while another 30 are thought to be dead. Meanwhile, thought to be dead. Meanwhile, a terrorist who stabbed a stranger to death in an attack motivated by the conflict in gaza will spend at least 44 years in prison. Ahmed ali ali had already tried to kill his housemate before roaming the streets of hartlepool and repeatedly stabbing grandfather Terence Carney last october. The 45 year old is an Asylum Seeker who