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Addison. Addison. Thats leo. Our top stories tonight from the gb newsroom and conservative mp doctor dan poulter has defected to labour, saying the tories are now a nationalist party of the right. Nationalist party of the right. Announcing his decision in the observer newspaper, the former Health Minister said it is abundantly clear that the labour party alone has the will and the trust to restore and reform the nhs. He urged rishi sunak to call a general election as soon as possible. Tory Party Spokesperson has described the news as disappointing, but labour leader sir keir starmer says its fantastic. Doctor poulter , who represents central poulter, who represents central suffolk and north ipswich, will take the labour whip until the next election. The prime next election. The Prime Minister says a recent influx of migrants into ireland shows the deterrent effect of his rwanda plan is working. The comment comes after deputy irish premier Micheal Martin said the uks asylum policy is driving migrants from Northern Ireland into the republic. The into the republic. The government wants to send Asylum Seekers on a one way flight to the east african nation. Rishi sunak says the scheme is having an impact because people are worried about coming here. Two men have been arrested at a pro palestine protest in london. Police say one was holding a placard with a swastika and the other made a racist remark towards counter protesters. The towards counter protesters. The event, which was organised by the palestine solidarity campaign, was calling for an immediate ceasefire in gaza. Immediate ceasefire in gaza. Part of that march took it past a fixed pro israel demonstration on pall mall. Earlier, a counter Demonstration Organised by the campaign against anti semitism was cancelled , with organisers was cancelled, with organisers saying that the safety of jews was at risk. Saying that the safety of jews was at risk. Humza yousaf is asking leaders of rival parties to find Common Ground with the snp as his leadership hangs in the balance. Hes inviting them to talks at his official residence to see how they can work with his minority government. The Scottish First minister says he wont resign ahead of a crunch vote on his leadership next week. It comes after the collapse of the snps power sharing deal with the greens last thursday , and greens last thursday, and finally, a gold pocket watch recovered from the body of the richest man on the titanic has been sold at auction for a record breaking £1,175,000. Now it had been expected to fetch only around 150 k businessman John Jacob Astor was 47 when he went down with the ship in 1912 after seeing his wife madeline onto a lifeboat rather than attempt to get on one himself. The businessman was last seen smoking a cigarette and chatting with a fellow passenger the previous highest amount paid for a titanic artefact was 1. 1 million for a violin that was played as the ship sank well. For the latest stories, why not sign up to gb news alerts by scanning the qr code on your screen right now, or go to gbnews. Com slash alerts. Back now to. Leo. Now to. Leo. Thank you ray, and welcome to the saturday night showdown. And the saturday night showdown. And what a week its been a few days on from threatening to arrest someone for being openly jewish. Londons police moved on to arresting people for being openly english. After months of standing by during the palestinian riots, they finally saw some protesters that they could batter without being called racist by the guardian and promptly kettled them, threw them on the ground and had mounted police staging cavalry charges into them. The Police Response wasnt just heavy handed, it was heavy hooved. There was no need to consult Community Leaders or be aware of social tensions when its a group seen as gammons. Compare group seen as gammons. Compare this to the treatment of other protesters over the last six months, the police stood meekly by while islamists threw fireworks and missiles at police, desecrated War Memorials and chanted anti semitic slogans, displayed swastikas and called for jihad, which the police excused as having a number of meanings. Yeah, im pretty sure jihad just as one meaning when its shouted by a foaming mouthed hamas supporter who wants to destroy israel. Left wing commentator say the Saint Georges day protesters are far right, but the anti israel protesters arent. So the protesters with swastikas and anti semitic chants arent nazis , but the ones with england nazis, but the ones with england flags. A country that fought the nazis are the nazis. Can someone please make this make sense . And social media was awash with the annual Saint Georges day parade of smug, superior lefties saying, well, actually, saint george was a turkish arab immigrant and his mother was a palestinian. Take that gammons as if this was some kind of edgy jaw dropping revelation instead of the only acceptable opinion, and something youll see a million times if you open social media on the 23rd of april. And as well as being trite and smug, its not even correct if i can adopt the snobbish , know it all adopt the snobbish, know it all tones of the leftist chatter party. Well actually saint george wasnt a turkish arab, but was a greek christian from anatolia, which used to be christian but was aggressively colonised by islam. So maybe digging into Saint Georges history doesnt make the point. You think youre making by calling him a turkish arab is like saying keanu reeves as a high Ranking Member of hezbollah because he was born in beirut. Because he was born in beirut. See, we can be knowitalls, too. And saint george is revered in the east as a curer of lunatics. So we could certainly do with him today. I so we could certainly do with him today. I am joined tonight by paul cox, andrew eborn and kezia noble. Now paul the police say they have to keep the peace and the anti israel protests are too big to step in. I mean, doesnt this sit in a dangerous message that if youve got a big enough mob, you can do what you want . Yeah, i mean, its got to a point now where im not even sure why were debating this. Theres an open shut case, isnt it . The two very contrasting views there on the screen. We saw it earlier in the week. Its like debating whether the titanic sunk. Its sunk, and the titanic sunk. Its sunk, and the police have absolutely no idea how to manage these situations. Now, ill tell you for why and what theyve put themselves in this position is because theyve introduced culture, war, politics and religion into policing rather than making policing a binary task. Is than making policing a binary task. Is he the breaking the law or its not breaking the law . Is he the is he the protester . Its not protest. And as a result, what were because theyre bringing in the religion of these protests were seeing they have no idea how to handle it because of the culture war. I mean, at the rate were going, sort of saint george waving white blokes will by will be a minority within ten years. So well be the ones that will be able to enjoy , you know, free able to enjoy, you know, free protests wherever we like. So once youre a minority, youll be able to do what you want. White karens unite. White karens unite. Im not sure itll work like that, but but well see. I mean, im surprised this is a scotsman living in england. You know, i think its a perfectly green and pleasant land. Its very warm and welcoming. Its lovely. And welcoming. Its lovely. Great place to live, you know what i mean . It doesnt have the stringent hate crime laws that youve got in scotland. So you can still crack jokes in england from time to time. Why . Why do you think english people dont celebrate saint george . They seem to be almost embarrassed to celebrate it. Celebrate it. Yeah, they do seem pretty embarrassed, dont they . You see, like everyone celebrating Saint Patricks day, i think. I think the, the english like to celebrate Saint Patricks day even more than Saint Georges day. Itsjust even more than Saint Georges day. Its just been now linked with racism, hasnt it. So yeah, theyre just very uncomfortable with it. And they probably see you know, theyve been told you know england was the it was part of the empire. It was the empire. You know. Of the empire. It was the empire. You know. And we have to empire. You know. And we have to feel guilty about that. But but scotland and wales were part of that empire also. You know, i know that it was like, okay, wales is a principality. I understand. But, you know, back understand. But, you know, back in the days of the empire , they in the days of the empire, they were they were soldiers also. And yeah , absolutely. Marching and yeah, absolutely. Marching on other peoples land and all the rest of them, plenty of scottish slave traders and, and there were some scottish slaves as well. There were. Absolutely. Well, it is interesting, i always say that trust comes in on foot and leaves on horseback. And the reality is that its about communication. Yeah. At the moment there are tears everywhere. More than two i would have thought with, with the police on that sort of basis, what they need to do is be very, very clear as to the policies. So lets put it in this perspective. Theres section 60 a, a of the criminal justice and public order act of 1994. I can tell you the clocks already ticking, but but that can empower them to say you can remove anything that might conceal your faces and so on and so forth. So they put that order in on Saint Georges day. So all the people in their english outfits had to take things off, but they didnt when they were the palestinian marches. Yeah. So they could cover their face. So they could cover their face. So theres an inconsistency there. What they need to do though is about clarity. And i put the other perspective we like to balance. Ive read the notes. Youve got to be balanced. I felt a bit sorry for the copper who turned round and put the other perspective with a guy who, when he said he was openly jewish, he didnt mean it as an anti semitic way. What he was trying to say is, look, its a bit dangerous because if you go over there , palestinians, you over there, palestinians, you might come to harm and therefore the situation was the crowd could see it as a provocation. And i think thats the thing. Its rather like saying, hang about your i dont know if youre black and theres a whole load of National Front people over there. You want to warn them. Its about safety. Agitator, by the way. Oh, well, he was making the point and he was making a good point, but he was an agitator. And the reason theres a two tier system, i dont i dont believe that the police are pro palestine. I dont believe that. Its the sheer number theyre deaung its the sheer number theyre dealing with here. Its huge. And most of them are peaceful. But youve got this mob and ive seen them. Theyre young men. Theyve got their faces covered like cowards. And you can see like cowards. And you can see theyre looking for a fight. They are looking for a fight. And its something triggers that it all hell will break loose. But andrew rees is an interesting point. He said, you know, if this was, you know, a black person in front of a National Front mob, a National Front mob would never, ever be allowed to march in london. Exactly small. If those were like 50,000, 60,000 people, they would also have to manage it differently. Yes. Yeah. Yes. Yeah. But i mean, the reality of the situation is that that it just isnt. I was on the anti lockdown marches , you know, anti lockdown marches, you know, and they were huge, much bigger than this. And to be honest, it got a bit hairy sometimes. But they couldnt do anything because of the size. Thats the lockdown because no barbers were available. Thats why they got hairy. Thats why they got hairy. Thats why they got hairy. He was antagonising ones. He but he did. Of course he was something , right . Yes, he did something, right . Yes, he did expose something and that was that. There was the potential for danger. And weve been continually told there is no potential for danger because these are peaceful protests. So what he what he successfully managed to do and single handedly on this occasion was expose it for what it is. That element that kezia was talking about does exist, and we shouldnt deny it. But but also the interest of people would not have done anything to that murder. Theyre peaceful people that are upset about. But you dont want it to be inflammatory. And the other inflammatory. And the other thing, which i think they handled incorrectly, the police say were just putting the other side is when you come out and apologise and say, well, yes, it almost means as though, well, it was it was anti semitic and things like and it wasnt. I dont think that was the intention. I think it really was to do with safety and so on and so forth. Its rather like the orange marches, which they do. There are certain streets you cant go down because inflammatory work on that basis should be sponsored by easyjet. But it wasnt the only protest this week. There was also rees mogg, Jacob Rees Mogg being harassed by pro palestine students. I believe in wales. Weve got a video in cardiff now those protesters as well as being right up in his face, hes got security. So hes safe, and, you know, i trust Jacob Rees Mogg could fight his way out of anything he could. Tall guy. Tall guy. But they were. They were waving. One of them was waving a flag of the soviet union, a communist flag, which is one of the most disgusting. I mean , how the most disgusting. I mean, how many millions of people were starved, tortured, beaten , horrendous . All of those are very valid points. And thats what the mail was saying. That was outrageous. Was saying. That was outrageous. Whats interesting was jacobs own statements, which was what he said in a statement. Rees mogg said it was a legitimate and peaceful if noisy protest. The Cardiff University Security Team was exemplary in allowing a lawful protest while keeping everyone safe, so he doesnt sound as bothered as the headune doesnt sound as bothered as the headline sound. Thats what i love about Jacob Rees Mogg. Hes a man of principle. He he doesnt apply them in a partisan way. He sticks to his principles. An englishman will walk but never run. He kind of exemplifies that, doesnt he . He stood there. He stood there just stood there. He stood there just going, well, of course my team will handle this. Englishman will walk, but never run. Is that to do with the obesity crisis . The obesity crisis . Thats a quote from a lyric in a police song. This is this. This is this. This is his inspirational speech before the london marathon. Thats what he works. He does it is it is important to say this, and perhaps we dont do it enough. I see you dont. Is wes streeting angela have all suffered the same thing this week from the same people balance. So what were seeing is the same people are doing the same thing to people. I dont know really what they expect to gain. Lets not forget there isnt so much that we can do. If isnt so much that we can do. If they all stood up in harmony in parliament and said ceasefire now, there would not be ceasefire. What they expect to gain is pubuchy. What they expect to gain is publicity. If you want to draw publicity. If you want to draw a crowd, start a fight. Well, these protesters arent always, you know, they dont always have the most deep rooted, passionate , you know, deeply held beliefs. Weve got another video now of a pro palestine protesters. Not more. Dont seem to know why theyre protesting. No. Theyre protesting. No. Have a look at this about anything else. Go with tonights, protest. Go with tonights, protest. I think the goal is just showing our support for palestine and demanding that nyu stop. I honestly dont know all of what nyu is doing. Is there something that nyu is doing . I really dont know. Im pretty sure there you know what nyu is doing . What about israel . Why are we protesting here, well be free. I was more educated. Im not either. Oh, i came from columbia. I was there up at columbia, and we came down. They said nyu students got support. So i came down. I heard theres lots of cops. Some people were saying it was getting dangerous. I love who she says. I wish i was more educated. Those are students at the most elite institutions in the states like nyu and columbia. These are elite ivy league universities. These people do not care about the palestinian issues, just like they dont care about the syrians. The 600,000 syrians that were slaughtered, no protests , the, 280,000 yemenis protests, the, 280,000 yemenis ignored no protest. Yeah. This is a lot of people are upset about whats happening and genuinely are going on these protests. And its very understandable why some of those images are coming out. Videos are horrendous. Yeah but a lot of them are jumping on a bandwagon and just going free palestine. They dont know what theyre saying. Its oh , just, theyre saying. Its oh, just, theyre saying. Its oh, just, theyre in a moment. Theyre caughtin theyre in a moment. Theyre caught in a moment and youre absolutely right. It is. And actually just i talked to probably a party pooper on this. Its not quite what she said. So what they said in the media, i did my research on this sort of thing. She did know what she was talking about. She did know about palestine. We dont like nuanced research. We love a bit of neon. Therell be many tears to this argument. What she said is, i honestly dont know all of what nyu is doing. That was her quote. Did she say she wasnt other university . She came from another one, so she didnt. She knew she was pro palestinian. What was interesting is similar sort of quote. Very recently there was somebody holding up from the river to the sea and one of the journalists said, well, which river . Which sea is it . I dont know, i dont know what thats about. And a lot of people on these marches, its the mob mentality. And thats the mob mentality. And thats the mob mentality. And thats the thing. Its tribal, isnt it . Yeah. Theyve got the drums playing everything or like the drums. Oh, i had cymbals as well. That was quite nice. That was pretty. That was good. But the drums are a bit with the tribal thing though, of course, what that does is it means that people are blindly following. Now, i believe that shes supporting palestine, but i only believe shes supporting palestine because the mob are because her friend group, you know, its a bit like when we were growing up, you know, you followed a certain, you know, i was a big oasis fan. I didnt like blur, which. Why did you like. Well, you know liam, who do you like . Well, i always like noel because he was a songwriter. Yeah, talk about that later. That seemed a football team. You support the team that you know, youre told. Yes cool. Yeah. I mean, its a really good point. And the trouble with that is when it becomes political, like this is you dont look any further. Yeah. And it takes away free thought. Yeah. Let alone free speech and people saying what they want to say. I mean im all for that. But it takes away three fought in the sense that like nobody is really thinking about why they are saying or doing what theyre doing. They just know this is what the consensus is. Yes, yes, 100. I i agree with that. And theyre out there getting their snaps for instagram. But their snaps for instagram. But they are. Thats what they want. Its all about likes these days. Is it. Well doesnt matter. I dont care what the cause is but look at the likes. Look what ive got on on a map. Yeah. Yeah. Oh, come on to that. Absolutely. Anyway, coming up we will assess the weeks winners and losers in kerster blast this week. Weve got an mp mocked for his knowledge of african geography, alec baldwin getting harassed and a drag queen indoctrinating kids. But theres a twist. And well show you what a twist. And well show you what happened when this lady tries Virtual Reality for the first time. Oh, nice. Stop, stop stop stop i on on mark dolan tonight. The bbc is hoping to brush the huw edwards scandal under the carpet. Our National Broadcaster is becoming an unaccountable echo chamber. The bbc has become a law unto itself. In my take at ten, andrew neil has attacked gb news as the home of conspiracy theorists and nutters. Ill be giving my full response and im not pulling my punches. Plus, mark meets my all star panel and tomorrows papers. Were live at nine. Welcome back to the saturday night showdown. Kherson oblast night showdown. Kherson oblast is coming up. But first i promised i would show you what happened when this woman used Virtual Reality for the very first time. Sorry. Night. Stop stop stop stop stop stop stop now step off, step back. Step to your right. Wow. Step to the right. Wow. Youre just. Wow. Youre floating. Really . Yeah. Go jump go. Go. Oh, glorious. Oh, glorious. Yes. Glorious work for a plaster or somewhere. What . I always think that this section should be sponsored by personal Injury Lawyers. Because. Because thats what you certified every week. Its wonderful stuff. People get injured in new and interesting ways. Well, its now time to go through the winners and losers of the week. And cursed or blessed. Anyway, hows your geography . Hopefully its your geography . Hopefully its better than chris phillips, but if it isnt, maybe you can be a government minister as well. Lets have a look. Lets have a look. No, i think theres an exclusion on people from rwanda being sent from rwanda. Theyre from congo. Theyre from congo, and theyre supposedly from congo. Theyre supposedly from congo. Theyre supposedly war in these people, from rwanda. Are they then going to be sent to rwanda if they came here on a crossing from from congo . Yeah would people be sent from. Well, i mean, random is a different country , congo, isnt different country, congo, isnt it. Its a different country. It is. Yes, definitely. Is. Yes, definitely. Youre saying if they come from a war zone in congo, would they then be sent . So he was on question time this week and ive got some sympathy for him here. He was asked about a town called goma , asked about a town called goma, and how could anybody be expected to know where goma is . I mean, hes the minister for policing, not the minister for, you know, knowing where every single town in africa is, its a lovely place. Its got a great coffee shop, its in the republic of congo andifs its in the republic of congo and its right next to you. Are you making this up . Are you making this up . Yes. Of course. Did you google this . No, no, but what i can. I have a lot of sympathy, a bit of nuance on this because actually he didnt understand the question. The guy was turning around and saying, look, my person was from congo. Theyre person was from congo. Theyre in a war at the moment with rwanda. Whats going to happen if they get sent to rwanda . That was his question. He was sort of working it out. He knew that congos next to rwanda and you and youve got kenya just up there, and you can keep going there. Somalia, i can do the whole lot and you keep going. You finally get to britain. You finally get to britain. I expect you especially if you take a boat. So the reality is and the reality is exactly that. So i did feel a bit sorry for him, but the way he went. Oh, hilarious. Oh, hilarious. Would caught you out the faux educated you from from wes streeting. Theyre like, oh, of course we all know where goma is. You, wally, where no one knows, you know. And his way he phrased the question as well. It was a gotcha moment. It was to him. He was trying to catch him. Now he doesnt have any problem with people trying to catch politicians out, but essentially what he was saying is, you know, theres a dispute between rwanda and congo, and congo is obviously where they make ambongo. I thank you, they do, they do i know and the and you were saying , look, you know, if saying, look, you know, if someone wanted to come from the congo to the uk, would we send them to rwanda . And of course its a stupid question really. We wouldnt do that. Yes we would, of course we would. I cant wait for the first plane load of congas to get the weight of rwanda. Get the weight of rwanda. And theyll all be doing this, wouldnt they, all together in a line work on that base and it is extraordinary though because they do need that clarity. So i do think its one of those classic examples which that faux outrage and it wasnt i mean, its all over the headlines. We keep repeating, repeating it. He was trained to make the point, which is a valid point and shows that, you know , the and shows that, you know, the rwanda policy actually does have a heart and isnt just you know, sending people to their to their doom if thats thats whats happening. So if, if sending it to rwanda will cause you harm, then the government wont send you to rwanda. Serious and irreversible harm. And he makes the point that its in the legislation. Thats whats going to protect towns like the tavistock centre. I just yeah, yeah, i mean part of the cast report there, its just what level of harm can you, can you have a grazed knee . I dont know. Anyway, next up weve got Actor Alec Baldwin who popped weve got Actor Alec Baldwin who popped out for a cup of coffee and got a bit more than he bargained for. In three months time, baldwin goes on trial for involuntary manslaughter, and after an encounter with so called ambush , interviewer so called ambush, interviewer called crackhead barney. Thats called crackhead barney. Thats a fantastic name. He might quite fancy the peace and solitude of some jail time. Lets have a look. Alec can you please say free palestine one time . Why did you kill that lady . You killed that lady and got no jail time. No jail time, alec. Just say free palestine one time. One time, one time. Police one time. Alex. You know you know hes a criminal. You know hes a criminal. Come on, alec, just say free palestine one time. One time. You could you give me one quick favour, john . Oh, well, luckily for her, she wasnt armed that time, but he was. Well, i did have his fists and he knocked the phone out of her hand. I he did, and quite rightly too. I can understand the anger. He said, look, call the police. And theyre deliberately ribbing him. Its an appalling case. It was on the film set of rust. Was on the film set of rust. Somebody died and theyre looking into it. Theres criminal charges going through. They go through due process, but somebodys coming up to you. I somebodys coming up to you. I think the crackhead barn is a great name, so ill let them off for that. But theyre deliberately ribbing so they can get their views and their likes again. And its all about that. Sensational. So ive got a lot of sympathy for alex. People do have a bad moment. Thats what happens. Same as photographers. Happens. Same as photographers. They always do do all this sort of stuff. They want to get wound up and ignored the celebrities. They they get that picture of them looking angry. Yeah. And them looking angry. Yeah. And this is shes almost like a sort of american missy. Of american missy. Shes like a crackhead, isnt he . Thats what it is. Immensely unhinged. You seen her . I saw her on piers morgan as well. Yeah, i saw that. Yeah, with the plasters covering the nipples. Nipples. Yeah, which i was. I was glad of those plasters of it. Of those plasters of it. Oh yes. That was bizarre, wasnt it. I think she was wearing a mask or so they always were. And i think im piers. I know that was extraordinary. He was actually very dignified about it. He said, look, im happy to let you speak. Im happy to say this, but but lets, lets. And as she was doing this dance performance artist and everything else. All right. Yeah, you can make your point. But it then wasnt funny. He handled it brilliantly. But when youre out in the public and you dont have protection there and youre a celebrity and you get that sort of stuff and you deliberately go to him, hes very upset about the person dying, the death of the person on the production, on rust and its a really tricky time. Its a massive drain on him. So i understand that. Yeah, but im trying to work out the link between that and the middle east conflict. Well, nothing. She deliberately she wants to be provocative. Shes working on that sort of basis. This is why i dont have sympathy for alec baldwin. So hes a west coast hollywood liberal elite and trying not to sound like donald trump here, but thats thats what he is. I dont think he is a liberal. I dont think he is. I guarantee you hes more liberal than me. Well, thats not difficult. Well, thats not difficult. Well, thats not difficult. Luke littler i certainly we dont have any internet in this or whatever it is, but we dont need evidence to make points, do we . But so, so yeah, we also yeah, we, we dont need to Research Anything but whats the point. So alec baldwin is this as this hollywood liberal has, you know, has been like all the hollywood liberals are like, oh, protests are wonderful. Everybody should protest. They usually tweet this from the safety of their gated compound. But then theyre getting some blowback. I think thats thats quite apt. Shes nuts. And like kezia shes nuts. And like kezia said, crowbarring in palestine just is ridiculous. And thats just is ridiculous. And thats just clickbait. But if youre going to wind anyone up, you might as well be alec baldwin, arent you . Because, you know, hes got a bit of a reputation for lashing out. Yeah. And im surprised you didnt accidentally shoot her, actually. Yeah, well, he certainly had a bit of a slap at her phone. Anyway, moving on. Lgbtq relationships are prohibited in gaza, but allowed in israel, so youd think that a drag queen eventin youd think that a drag queen event in america would maybe take the side of israel. But for the valley families, for palestine in massachusetts, a queer story time for palestine encouraged toddlers to promote the palestinian cause, as everyone in the room chanted for a free palestine. Lets take a look at what a queer story time really looks like today. What were going to do is were gonna show three palestine. Can i hear that . Three palestine. If youre a drag queen and you know it, show three sign. If youre a drag queen and you know it and you really want to show it , youre really want to show it, youre a drag queen and you know it. Show three outside. Its just refreshing to see a drag queen indoctrinate kids in something that doesnt involve pronouns and surgery. On your genitals. I mean, dont they see the hypocrisy in forcing children to sing this . Paul . Oh, its not free. Its not, you know, its not free. Well, im always interested when they say things like, if youre a if youre a drag queen and you know it, shout free palestine, shout free palestine, please. But free palestine from what . Theyre never very clear, are they . No. The idea is its free palestine from israel. But palestine needs to be free from hamas before they could be free from anything else. So what . You know, there needs to be some context. This is poor kids are being used as political pawns. Yeah. No. Youre absolutely im talking of porn. I think they should shout out free willy and because i mean far more appropriate, its a dangerous thing to show to a drag queen. You know, its always a joy. No. You know, its always a joy. No. Its appalling. Absolutely appalling. Theres a little kids dont indoctrinate them because what will happen . They will go out into the world singing this because theyre completely innocent. They wont know and they will get into all sorts of trouble. It is disgusting and shouldnt be allowed. Yeah yeah, honestly, my main sort of attitude to this is changed since i became a father and now im very aware of the messages and the, you know, whoevers going into schools to spread whatever propaganda and whatever indoctrination. Indoctrination. And i mean, is this something that worries you, kasia . Not really. Not really. Not really. Oh, good height. Oh, good height. And now world hunger. And now world hunger. And now world hunger. What is it . What is. Leos child has started talking with a scottish accent, and she was born in the uk. In england. In england. In england. I care about if people want to, you know, become women or men. It doesnt bother me. Im worried about stuff like taxes and things. Things that affect me. Yeah, but what if your taxes are getting taken off . You to indoctrinate children into changing gender tiny amounts . Yeah, but i dont want any of it spent on indoctrinating children i i i just think m i just think ive got ive got im more annoyed with this person saying, say, free palestine. Yeah, but and thats the point. Yeah. So were not were not saying were not saying people cant be trans or they cant dress up as women. So i think the principle is, is its indoctrinating little kids, mixing it with politics, which has nothing like palestine. Thing is an issue which has nothing to do with, you know, trans gender. Its nothing to do with it wasnt sexualised ehhen i ehhen i mean, that woman was, if that a drag queen was supposed to be sexualised in some way, i think theyve got it slightly wrong. But because they werent, were they . They really werent. It was. Im not too sure what the fascination with drag queens. Thats interesting. Right and, you know, i dont really have an issue with it in the same way that, kasia does. Its a bit like the pantomime dame. Oh, no it isnt. Oh, no it isnt. Wheres your career behind you . I you . I love i love drag queens. I love i love drag queens. I love i love drag queens. I love drag queens. At 11 pm. On, you know, in a basement in soho. Yeah. I dont love drag in soho. Yeah. I dont love drag queens at 11 am. On a in a pubuc queens at 11 am. On a in a public school. I have never seen. I have never seen. I have never seen. I have never seen. I see them in the street everywhere. No, its fine for me. Ive never seen ian mckellen. Ian mckellen has never been happier than when he was on stage as mother goose. And he was the demon. He was absolutely brilliant. And its old shakespeare, no drag dressed as a girl. Thats where it came from, from shakespeares time, because the men couldnt basically, you couldnt have female, actors. So men used to do it, and i think thats right. No, the thing which is abhorrent, though, is the indoctrination of little kids for anything , whether its for anything, whether its political and so on and so forth. You have to keep an open mind and talk about respect and so on and so forth. A kindness, all these great values for kids, thats what they should be teaching. Absolutely. Absolutely. Absolutely. Were agreed on that. Next, on the saturday night showdown, weve got culture corner coming up and the fight thats erupted between the Queer Fat Club and victoria beckham. Im not going to lie, if this was a cage fight, id put money on the Queer Fat Club. Plus, ill show you what happened when this runner got to the finishing line i what a 5mm what a run by forest. Oh and shes absolutely exhausted i welcome back to the saturday night showdown. Culture corner is coming up. But first, i promised i would show you what happened when a tired looking runner approached the finishing line. And what a run by forest. Oh and shes absolutely exhausted here. She king is about to collapse. Oh my gosh. Hey alice. Oh, thats a shame. Have you ever been so close . But so far my whole life is so close. But so far. But we love it. No glory. I felt so sorry for that. I love the sorry for that. I love the videos which they show when you get somebody who doesnt quite make it and somebody, another runner goes back and they help them over the line. Oh yeah. Do them over the line. Oh yeah. Do you remember that . Theres a heartbreaking moment and i think thats what its like a metaphor for the rwanda bill. That wasnt it. That wasnt it. It was. It was. Isnt that next to congo . Isnt that next to congo . Yeah, absolutely. Ive heard of that. Anyway, its time now for culture corner, victoria beckhams mango collaboration has been criticised for lack of size, inclusive inclusivity. Thats a new one. Portias springtime collection is only available in sizes 6 to 14, with most items only being available up to a size 12. Body image advocates are slamming the pop star for excluding them with body positive, which means fat style influencer Stephanie Yeboah saying that bigger bodies are deserving of clothing too. In between mouthfuls of cheesecake. For what its worth, cheesecake. For what its worth, mango have apologised for inconvenience or disappointment caused by the size, availability or lack thereof, and have issued a statement saying that theres a statement saying that theres a tent shop next door which should have something that fits. No my issue with this is ill ask you because youre obviously fashion conscious. Im obviously so fat. No, no, no. 110. No. Obviously fashion conscious and i mean , i think yeah, ive and i mean, i think yeah, ive been stuck in the 90s speaking. Ive been literally wearing the same outfits as like 1998. Everyone else, everyone else is wearing tkmaxx. You , but yeah. Fashion you, but yeah. Fashion labels. I think if youre an exclusive fashion label, you dont want your stuff being stretched over , you know, the stretched over, you know, the very large buttocks of a fat person. And, you know, it being sort of short and public like that. So two, two points here. I do think that, bigger sized women should be included. I mean, theyre human beings too, right . Yeah. They should have known that theyre human. They they should have access to the same things as skinny people, even like absolute runway fashion. Yes, but that stuffs not designed. Its not designed. Its not designed. Two part answer. Two part answer. You know, this is art. You know, this is art. Yes. Two part answer to this. Okay the second the second part is when i go shopping to get clothes, they have too many sizes. 16, 18, 14. And its just piled up because all the size sixes and eights and fours go really, really quickly. So just put 1 or 2 just to keep everyone happy. Size 20 or size 18 and put loads and loads of size sixes for us little people. Its a good point in defence of the independent republic of mango, which is next to rwanda, by the way. You can work out. By the way. You can work out. They do, they do do that. Im looking at the link repubuc im looking at the link republic of mango. Thats what its called. This is the name of the retailer. Yes this is the retailer. They do plus sizes. So and it depends on the range. So what they do there are certain styles which might fit the larger lady or gentleman who wants to dress as a lady. And they can go to those particular size. As leo says, you can turn around and say this particular items, theyre not really appropriate. If youre beyond a certain size, they wouldnt look as good as others. But let them be the judge of that. Well, paul, dont you think they could solve this by by just putting the range of clothes at the top of some stairs . So then the top of some stairs . So then the fat people will never make it up. I was really desperately trying to take us down this path. I mean, one thing i do agree with is this is high fashion, right . This is not asda george. So the and high fashion is aimed at a certain body shape and it is by its very nature , and it is by its very nature, beauty by its very nature is quite exclusionary. Yes. It excludes me. Not. Not. Not. And i, you know, and i accept that i had a year in about 1998 where i really peaked. And since where i really peaked. And since then its gone terribly wrong. And, you know, ive accepted that. And theres part of this that. And theres part of this that makes me think it isnt for everyone. I look, i agree with what everyone else is saying except some of the stuff you said, leo. Of course, because, cant always agree with you, leo. But what . So what cassie is trying to say is, look, we need to be more inclusionary, but certain things arent. Beauty is not inclusionary. High fashion is not inclusion. And beauty is subjective. Okay . Theres a lot of men out there who like big women, but its not. Its not that subjective. Its not that subjective. Its not that subjective. I mean, thats okay, but yes, but there are there are a portion of men who like big women and interesting it comes the story breaks have they have their niche website. So anyway, their niche website. So anyway, next, next, lets take a look at what happened when this man decided to take it upon himself to crash the Queer Fat Club. This is a Queer Fat Club , im this is a Queer Fat Club, im queer and fat. Okay. Thank you forjoining. Okay. Thank you for joining. Were just, introducing ourselves at the moment. Okay do you want to go ahead and introduce yourself, joe . Yeah my name is joe. I go by heidi, and, i identify as £275. Okay, okay. Now, joe, he might have been trolling. Im not sure if he genuinely identifies as £275. He was asked to leave the group. But heres the question. Why cant someone identify as fat . Surely whether you self identify as fat or not is more subjective than your gender . I see well done to joe for exposing such a nonsensical, organised nation. And why . Why are some things why is identifying as woman okay, but identifying as woman okay, but identifying as woman okay, but identifying as a fat woman not okay . Well, theres so many like very skinny women who think theyre fat, so they actually identify. They see themselves as fat. They and they have fat. They and they have a problem, you know, theyve got anorexia. Anorexia. Youre right. And thats thats a real serious issue. And so, you know, they identify with it and its really genuine actually to them theyre not playing around. They look in the mirror, they feel sad and they say im fat. And it can be 100 people around them going, youre not. Youre really skinny, but they cant hear that. So i think actually thats really identifying the body dysmorphia. And its interesting. I mean it is the same this a similar issue to gender dysphoria. And in fact , if you look at the in fact, if you look at the google searches, the google searches for anorexia , its searches for anorexia, its tailed off as the as the google searches for body dysmorphia and gender transitioning have increased. It is absolutely appalling. It is absolutely appalling. And youre absolutely right to call it out. I think the language pattern, however, gave it away. And what he says is, i identify as a £275 man. Woman. And what the other thing they miss is the naming and brave woman. The other thing they miss was the name of the club, because it was, i think Queer Fat Club is good. I also like the idea we should be more inclusive. I think we should call it trans fat, because this is because that clogged your arteries, and it would be very good and confuse the hell out of people. But also skinny people can actually be fat. I mean , nico, actually be fat. I mean, nico, hes a comedian and he went to the doctor looking at him. Youd think hes the hes the figure of health. He went to the doctor and the doctor told him hes fat, skinny. Hes got a visceral fat, skinny. Hes got a visceral fat with insides. Fat with insides. Yeah. Yeah. Inside him. Inside him. Inside him. I mean, i do have some sympathy for this fact. I mean, what goes on at trans fat club should, should, should stay at trans. But i should, should, should stay at trans. But i mean, should, should, should stay at trans. But i mean, they, they trans. But i mean, they, they get together, theyve got together these these women largely women i think largely women was not a pun. And they women was not a pun. And they for their opportunity to just be themselves and then he he gatecrashes it seems a little unfair , but he is doing unfair, but he is doing everything we like to do, leo, which is expose the hypocrisy. Which is expose the hypocrisy. Its very good. Some fun. Anyway, next on the saturday night showdown , its saturday night showdown, its our journey into clown world with bidens latest gaffe. With bidens latest gaffe. Brexiteers still crying. Its been eight years, guys. Get over it. And flame throwing robot it. And flame throwing robot dog. Plus, ill show you what happened when this man went swinging. Woo welcome back to the saturday night showdown. Clown world is coming up. But first, i promised i would show you what happened when a grown man tried out a childs swing. Woo woo oh oh. Roasted nuts. Roasted nuts. Roasted nuts. We. We knew what was going to happen. We did. Come on. What i love we talk about this in the break. Somebody ready with their camera. Say theres a fire here. Theres a theres a man of a child saying youve been framed. I can send it to leos show personally. Personal Injury Lawyers will sponsor it. We love it. Its got to be good. Yeah. Yeah. Oh, my god. Oh, no chance. That rope holding. Anyway, now that rope holding. Anyway, now lets finish the show with clown world, where we look at the funny videos circulating this week. Not for the first time, joe biden leads the way. Lets take a look. Imagine what we can do next. Four more years pours, more years. Years. He just read out what was on the autocue. Thats incredible. The autocue. Thats incredible. Pause. Chat to panellists. Yes, joe biden might be a bit unsteady on his feet and a bit dithery, but at least he can still read cassio. Yeah, just about. Yeah, just about. Paul, do you think, do you think hes actually going to make it all the way to the election . Do you mean will he be alive or will they oust him . Just. Yeah. I mean, im not even sure if, like, being dead would be that it wouldnt stop you. Not in the american. You could be guilty of all sorts of things, including being dead. Yeah. So hes 81. Hes 81 at the moment. And good old trump, whos identifying himself as innocent at the moment. Yeah. Innocent at the moment. Yeah. Which i like. So you do anything. So hes 77 and thats what i do. Our politicians basically pale into insignificance dont they. Theyre all youngsters. But i feel a bit sorry for poor old sleepy joe because it was a clear gaffe on that sort of thing, and hes stumbling all over the place. Hes just hes kept on reading on that, that autocue. I mean, maybe borat should be president. Take a look at this. President. Take a look at this. This suit is black. Pause. You know what a pause is . Yes. This suit is black, not this suit is black. Pause. Not pause. Not to be honest, i think borat would do a betterjob right now. Now picture the scene you go to get the supermarket shopping. Just before closing on a sunday afternoon, and the shelves are empty. Who do you blame for empty. Who do you blame for this . Maybe you blame yourself for not shopping earlier in the day before the stock sold out. Well, not if youre liz webster. Oh, no. Theres only two reasons that a supermarket would have empty shelves at 4 55 pm. On a sunday, the dynamic duo of brexit and Climate Change goodness , this is. This never goodness, this is. This never gets boring for me. People. Gets boring for me. People. People saying, oh, the supermarket shops are empty on a sunday afternoon, this is brexit. Why did you do this . Brexit. Why did you do this . What i find extraordinary is i dont. The picture is still there, but if you look on the left hand side, theyve got just a whole load of cucumbers. So a whole load of cucumbers. So i dont know what brexit did to cucumbers, but weve got to. Cucumbers, but weve got to. There they are. Look, have a look on the left hand side. The only things theyve got a cucumbers. Its because europe doesnt need to make them bendy anymore. But i mean i voted remain but when i see stuff like this, it makes me. It makes me. Can we swap . I wish i could go back and vote leave. Its insane. And also people , its insane. And also people, you know, why cant people just get over it . Paul. Well , is exactly it. Well, is exactly it. Well, is exactly it. Well, is exactly it. Well, i dont know why they cant get over it. Its like its just like this endless break up, isnt it . Its like she left you, mate. Move over she left you, mate. Move over it. Yeah. Its ridiculous. And its not so much brexit thing because we can all laugh about brexit. Now was eight years ago. We cant all laugh about brexit, but it is. It is funny to people keep trudging it up. However, the Climate Change things, everything is Climate Change. Thats the gift that keeps giving you trip over in the street. Its because of Climate Change. Yeah, if its warm, its Climate Change. If its cold, its Climate Change. Yeah, i know you cant win, can you . Its freezing out here right now. Its like late april. Its freezing. Suddenly no ones its freezing. Suddenly no ones really talking about Climate Change unless it comes to supermarket shelves. And also with Climate Change, they always say, oh, were having the this is the wettest weather or the coldest weather or the hottest weather in 100 years or in 200 years. And its like, well, what was making it so hot 200 years ago was that was making it hot in the dinosaur age. Tudor. Do you know the during the tudor times, the dinosaurs used to love those tudors , used to love those tudors, didnt they . They eat them, but they did. They were growing. They were growing. They were growing. They were growing grapes in this country. It was very warm. This country. It was very warm. Tudor era. Tudor era. They were with the dinosaurs. And i love i love that fact. Yes. And the dinosaurs. I love the fact. The reason the tudors. The fact. The reason the tudors. The reason the tudors are extinct is because the dinosaurs ate them. I think thats brilliant. Thats why henry the eighth is. This is the history channel. Its amazing. According to learning, were learning. And now, finally, we have a solution ahead of the next wildfire. A company in ohio have invented and put up for sale a flame throwing robotic dog. And what a bargain. A less than 10,000. Lets have a look at this thing. The music. Glorious the music. Glorious people should be allowed to buy these. To be honest , xl buy these. To be honest, xl bullies were bad. Well, i love it. Its terrifying , isnt it . Worked on. Terrifying, isnt it . Worked on. Lets see what i did there. Yeah, a bit of a labra cadabra, wahaca. Hi. Hi. Im here all week. Im here all week. What i love about it is they say in the report that actually, it depends on a state by state basis whether or not this counts as a weapon. So you might be able to take one of those apart. What happens when you get the worlds stupidest people and give them the worlds Top Technology lies with this stuff. People explain to me, how does a fire breathing robotic dog put out a forest fire when it starts them, it starts. Theres a different one with water. You start the one of water. I thought, thats a good idea. It is a good, basically a water cannon on legs. Thats what they can do and what they do. They try and rescue the tudors from the dinosaurs. The ones that make it great. Absolutely i love it because, i mean, those tudor buildings, theyre all wooden, exactly. Covered in pitch and tar. I dont believe me that they were growing grapes in england, i do. I firmly believe that they were growing grapes. They were in roman times as well. They were. No. They were. No. But whereabouts in england . Yeah okay. Well, what was the. Okay, well get back on that. Yeah. Lets do that. We know why. Because we must have been the fire breathing. Thats absolutely changes. That is quite a fire breathing dragons. Yes. What was doing it. Yes. What was doing it. Well i dont want to change. Is dogs into fire breathing dogs. I mean what you say about the xl bullies the sort of people about xl bullies will have a fire, but they will have that. No, theyll have one of those instead. Im buying one of those things i want one. They are my house. Perfect. Reassure me at all, anyone . I just wish theyd perfect like robot butlers before they started putting flamethrowers on them. Anyway , up next, its mark anyway, up next, its mark dolan tonight. What have you got for us this evening, mark . So much to get through this evening. It is your perfect saturday night in. Let me tell you, another tory defection , you, another tory defection, this time to labour. Is it the nail in the coffin for rishi sunaks premiership . Plus, the bbc want to sweep their inquiry into huw edwards under the carpet. Well, thats not happening. Not on my watch. Thats my big opinion. Plus he might take a ten. Andrew neil has attacked gb news. Ill be responding at ten and you wont want to miss it. Sounds amazing. Mark and i saw that. I saw that defection from the tory party to the labour party, and he said i couldnt look people in the eye as a conservative. Its like you didnt want to look people in the eye at the job centre. Youre just trying to keep your job. Anyway, thanks to keep your job. Anyway, thanks to my Brilliant Panel tonight, kezia noble, andrew eborn and paul cox and to all of our wonderful viewers. Well see you again next week. The fantastic again next week. The fantastic mark dolan tonight is next. Just as you just as you heard. And dont forget headliners as well. Tonight at 11 pm. See you next week. Bye looks like things are heating up. Boxt boilers sponsors of weather on. Gb news. Weather on. Gb news. Hello. Heres your latest weather update from the met office for gb news. We hold on to rather unsettled weather across the uk over the next few days, but temperatures will gradually start to climb too. Gradually start to climb too. Weve got low pressure sitting towards the south of the uk at the moment. Thats starting to push weather fronts up from the south, and certainly as we go through this evening into the overnight period, well see outbreaks of rain working their way in from the south across many southern and eastern parts of england, some of that rain turning quite heavy, particularly as we go into the early hours of sunday. And that rain also reaching the south east of wales by the early hours to towards the north and northwest. Its a clearer picture. A few showers around here and turning quite chilly with those clear spells could see a touch of frost in places by sunday morning. Temperatures locally below freezing but holding up with the cloud and the rain towards the south and east, that takes us into a pretty wet day across many eastern and southeastern parts of england tomorrow, some heavy bursts of rain still to come. Nofice bursts of rain still to come. Notice things brightening up, perhaps for a time across the south east of england, giving some heavy showers, but generally a pretty wet picture. Quite windy too , and that rain quite windy too, and that rain pushing up into eastern parts of scotland into the afternoon as well. Whereas out towards the west its a brighter picture. Sunshine and showers but pretty chilly wherever you are. Temperatures no better than 12 or 13 degrees. As for monday, well see an east west split once again, but a reversal of fortunes this time with the east and southeast seeing the brightest skies out towards the west. Quite a few showers to west. Quite a few showers to come, those showers merging in places to give some longer spells of rain. And as we head into the coming week, we hold onto a pretty unsettled picture. Outbreaks of rain for most areas at times , but notice those at times, but notice those temperatures picking up to into the high teens or low 20s. A brighter outlook with boxt solar sponsors of weather on. Gb news. Good evening. Its 9 00. On television. On radio and online in the United Kingdom and across the world. This is mark dolan tonight. The bbc is hoping to tonight. The bbc is hoping to brush the huw edwards scandal under the carpet. But thats not going to happen. Not on my watch. Ill be holding our National Broadcaster to accounts in just a moment. A new nightmare for rishi sunak. As top tory mp and former minister doctor Daniel Porter defects to labour. Plus. Porter defects to labour. Plus. Shocking scenes in wales yesterday as sir Jacob Rees Mogg is pursued by an angry mob at Cardiff University. What is wrong with britains universities and andrew neil has attacked gb news as the home of conspiracy theorists and nutters. Ill be dealing with andrew neil in no Uncertain Terms at 10 00. You wont want to miss it. Thats right. In just under an. Thats right. In just under an hour,. Thats right. In just under an hour , ill be dealing with hour, ill be dealing with andrew neil, my former colleague