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Starmer on defence. And. Is this the end for the cavalry . Animal the end for the cavalry . Animal rising . Think so. The bulk of the bullying and abuse that i was experiencing, its not catty. Its cruel. Well, there are bullying allegations against Meghan Markle and a star is born. Markle and a star is born. Pick a side of a seagull for us, will you . If you dont know what thats all about , if you dont know what thats all about, ill fill you in on my panel tonight is the director of popular conservatives, mark littlewood, businessman and activist adam brooks, and author and journalist rebecca reid. Oh, and journalist rebecca reid. Oh, and what are you getting this thing . Get ready, britain, here thing . Get ready, britain, here we go. Itake we go. I take the archbishop apart. Line by line. Next. Line by line. Next. Good evening. Im ray addison in the gb newsroom. Our top in the gb newsroom. Our top stories tonight. 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Several military horses were spooked by construction noise and unseated their riders before making off. Video posted to social media appeared to show one of the animals covered in blood. At least four people were injured as they galloped their way through the busy city streets. They were eventually rounded up and transported for Veterinary Care. For the latest stories, care. For the latest stories, sign up to gb news alerts. Scan the qr code on your screen or go to gb news. Com slash alerts. Back now to. Patrick. Back now to. Patrick. Good evening everybody. Its a pleasure to be back. Id just like to start by giving a massive thank you to ben leo, who was fantastic whilst i was away. So thank you very, very much ben. But lets get down to business, shall we . Rwanda is happening. Its a go and its time to pick archbishop Justin Welbys response apart line by line. He said, we retain deep misgivings about the safety of rwanda bill passed in Parliament Last night for the precedent it set at home and for other countries, and how we respond to the most vulnerable. Well i have long suspected archbishop welby is pro complete open borders. So it comes as no surprise that he wouldnt want other nations to enforce theirs in this way, either. He continues. This either. He continues. This includes victims of modern slavery and children wrongly assessed as adults whom we have assessed as adults whom we have a duty to protect. Data shows that between 2016 and december 2022, there were 7900 asylum cases where the age was disputed, 49 of them were found to be adults. Welby goes on we know with sadness and concern the rise in hostility towards those who come to these islands, seeking refuge and the way in which the treatment of the refugee and Asylum Seeker has been used as a political football. Okay, what rise in hostility . Where is the evidence for that . Take the bibby stockholm barge as an example. There are numerous different groups there , working together groups there, working together with teams of lawyers to do all they to can welcome these people and allow them to stay in britain. What there are, however, are people who are concerned about National Security and the safety of vulnerable people, not least women and girls and people who are worried about their house pnces are worried about their house prices plummeting because they now live within 100 yards of a migrant hotel, something that welby doesnt have to worry about himself. He continues , we about himself. He continues, we are disappointed that the kindness and support offered by churches and charities to the people at the heart of this debate those fleeing war, persecution and violence trying to find a place of safety has been unjustly maligned by some for political reasons. Right, mr welby knows that the issue is with economic migrants and that there is no war in france. The archbishop hit out at people who dared to suggest that the church of england had been, quote, deliberately facilitating false asylum claims. Now, this is a very grey area , isnt it, mr very grey area, isnt it, mr welby . Because, as he knows, its very difficult for people like me to know exactly what is going on inside a member of the clergys head when they are helping someone with their asylum claim. But we can have asylum claim. But we can have a look at some facts, cant we . The c of e was accused of running an Asylum Seeker baptism conveyor belt. They strenuously denied this. They called it nonsense. But then quietly , a nonsense. But then quietly, a couple of months later, they decided to launch an urgent review. Well, why would you feel review. Well, why would you feel the need to launch an urgent review if you thought that there wasnt even just the possibility of a problem there . Mr welby then sought to vindicate himself by saying when asked, neither the home secretary nor officials could provide evidence to support the allegation of widespread abuse. Note the use of the word widespread there. Okay, so what . There might have been just a bit of abuse, a smidgen of abuse. Judges have raised concerns about it being generous, really , and saying generous, really, and saying that well meaning vicars are being misled. Weve had cases being misled. Weve had cases like an iranian migrant who didnt know that jesus was born in bethlehem when he was asked in bethlehem when he was asked in a religion test, the 42 year old didnt attend church and hadnt old didnt attend church and hadnt been baptised. So those are some of the people were deaung are some of the people were dealing with here now. The bishop of chelmsford is admitting that the c of e may have been duped by some Asylum Seekers. I mean, a few months ago we unearthed this document, didnt we . Which is how members of the clergy can support Asylum Seekers letters of support, finding legal advice. There is a rizla paper here between well meaning, naive vicars whove been conned or people who were wilfully lying and fudging asylum applications so we can identify a pattern, but we cant prove an underlying motive. And prove an underlying motive. And while we know that, doesnt he . Welby knows that whether he likes it or not, in my view, it is clear that human traffickers, lawyers and illegal immigration fixers have seen the church of england and other churches not just the c of e and other churches, as an open door into britain. But this is the Crucial Point for me, welby said this, like so many in this country, we seek to support a system that shows compassion, justice, transparency and speed in its decisions. We grieve the appalling loss of life in the channel today. He made those comments yesterday. The archbishop has done Everything Possible to block the rwanda bill, to block the deterrent, adding to the backlog. Now, yesterday people died again in the channel. Okay listen to these channel migrants when they find out about the rwanda plan, how im very stressed, he tells me. I dont know what to do. All i can think about is this letter and rwanda. And rwanda. Rwanda is not a safe place. Rwanda is not a safe place. Does it make you regret coming to the uk . Yeah. If you know , before yeah. If you know, before i came here, you said that, you know, the same to me in rwanda. Inever know, the same to me in rwanda. I never come here. I never come here. Does the archbishop not think that maybe, just maybe, if flights to rwanda had taken off a couple of years ago, that those people who sadly died in the channel would actually be alive today. But lets get the thoughts of my panel this evening. I am joined by the director of popular conservatives , mark littlewood. Conservatives, mark littlewood. Ive got businessman and activist adam brooks, and of course weve got the author and journalist rebecca reid. Mark, ill start with you. I mean, really, i just found that was quite disingenuous. Some of that stuff from welby , its pretty extraordinary. Look, i accept that there are left wing political campaigners who want britain to have basically an open borders policy , but justin welby is not supposed to be a left wing political campaigner in a slightly silly outfit. Hes supposed to be the head of the established church in the united kingdom, in england at least. And i dont think he should be making these political points. So whilst patrick, i probably agree with your take down of his actual policies, he shouldnt be making these sort of observations hes describing the government as using asylum policy as a political football. Youll have to refer me to which gospel jesus talked about political footballs. If the church of england wants to remain an established church with 20 odd bishops in the house of lords, they need to talk a little bit more about christianity and good faith and a little less about left wing politics. Are you a churchgoer, mark . No, im not. So part of church is the gospel and learning about whats in the bible. But in every portion of the church of england church, they give a sermon. And that has historically , since the church historically, since the church has existed, been them giving a political view. I think they political view. I think they should that is, i think that is a just establish, but is a huge , a just establish, but is a huge, important tenet of being a religious leader that is left wing, campaigning 100 throughout my entire life i have sat and listened to them. I dont mind give political opinions. They are supposed to. I dont mind left wing campaigners getting together and heanng campaigners getting together and hearing a sermon. I do mind them automatically getting the status of having 20 or so bishops in the house of lords if they want to pronounce those surnames as legislation is going through. But we have a church of england because its our its our national. My view is we should just establish it. I dont think it should have pride of place, particularly given the clear political agenda. The church of england now has. Theyre entitled to have it, but not as an established. They have always had a political agenda. This isnt and they shouldnt. So im saying entitled to your opinion establishment of the church . No, i think can i just ask, given the fact that church attendances are plummeting , do attendances are plummeting, do you really think that not actually, its not a dramatic. Actually, its not a dramatic. People have been talking about it plummeting 90s. Yeah. They they have lost. This is right off the top of my head now because i did this a few weeks ago. But they have lost about half a Million People since the coronavirus pandemic started. People didnt come back necessarily after church up, but that doesnt count. That is literally just sunday worship. Thats not evensong, that is not christmas and easter. All right, all right. This guy really gets under my skin. I mean, im not a religious figure. So, you know, this this archbishop of wokery just doesnt stop getting involved in politics. It hes a romanian that lives in an ivory tower that isnt affected by what these migrants are doing in towns and cities across the uk. Ispeak towns and cities across the uk. I speak to worried parents that have got Migrant Hotels near their their childs school. Ive seen migrants walking up and down the town called epping, just just a few miles from me, causing mayhem, going into council offices, demanding things from council staff. Why is he getting involved . At the is he getting involved . At the end of the day hes a remainer, a remainer. End of the day hes a remainer, a remainer. Eu countries have got detention camps. They some of the countries deport en masse. Yet he never says anything about that. Why does people like justin welby always paint this country as the bogeyman . Why are we the church of england . So it would be odd for him to be commenting on what we or we do. So much more for these migrants than most countries. Yet were painted in such a bad light it is a disgrace. Potentially a little bit of an irony really, which is that he is content, it seems, anyway, for the overwhelming importation of people from muslim countries as the head of the church of england, im not really sure how that marries up again. So liaison between different faiths, including, including islam, has always been a really important part of the church of england. And its how you have a Harmonious Community sense and thats always been. So i grew up going to church, and absolutely we would go on visits to mosques. Its important to keep that communication going. Thats part of his job. Look, look, if justin welby was clearly just a left wing campaigner in a slightly silly outfit, rather than the head of the established church, clearly disrespectful to peoples faith to call it a silly outfit. Well, i think it is a silly outfit. So. But he is a left wing campaigner and he is using political terms. Hes not using christians as he always has. They are christians. So i think people get confused. People think its like the bbc. It is not an apolitical establishment. Can i also just ask as well . I mean, they have launched an urgent review supposedly into these allegations, which they convey about theyre trying to get it right. Absolutely. Absolutely. Absolutely. But the statement that i that he put pen to paper on there, which, by the way, was not just the church of england, it was other other churches as well. I read that as them completely absolving himself from, from any of that stuff. And i really think i really think thats very disingenuous. Yes. But they havent they havent done the proper they havent done the proper they havent done a proper analysis of this. If the c of e was talking about when Asylum Seekers arrive here, you know, whether its within the law or not, we will provide them shelter and housing and food and the rest of it. I think i would understand, even though im not a christian myself, i would understand the christian teaching there. This is something that could have been sent out as a press release by the labour party. It would be counter to the word of the bible to refuse somebody a baptism if theyre asking for it, just like justin welby is going against the majority of this country, not his 48. No. No. No. 48 rhetoric on this. 48 rhetoric on this. The majority of people are angry or worried about illegal immigration, 48 we do not want our taxpayers money being wasted on these illegal immigrants. Theyre economic migrants. Theyre economic migrants. Theyre not Asylum Seekers. Weve got horrific crimes being committed by some of them. God knows who were importing. You know, terrorist gangsters, rapists. We do not know. Its a National Security problem. And its got to stop. Points out that we need a faster, better system is facilitating it. We wouldnt have had the alkaline attacker if he hadnt been converted to christianity. Yeah, yeah. Okay. Well fair enough. Okay. Well fair enough. Okay. Well fair enough. But he was from he was from afghanistan. He was baptist. But i tell you, he was from afghanistan. I take your point. He was from afghanistan. Yeah, yeah. So we have so we automatically took everybody from afghanistan. And we all agree that like ukraine, that was correct. He was cruz was correct. State okay. State okay. All right. Okay. Well, look, there we go. Thank you very much for another lively start. Its good to be back. Still to come as the french come under fire for yesterdays migrant drownings is David Cameron wrong to suggest that leaving the echr would not help solve the small boat crisis . Lee anderson takes boat crisis . Lee anderson takes David Cameron to task. Hes up shortly. But up next, tory mp James Sunderland goes head to head with former labour minister bill rammell on whether or not rishi sunak is actually played. A bit of a blinder here over defence. Has he torpedoed keir starmer on that crucial election issue of defence spending . This issue of defence spending . This is Patrick Christys tonight. Were only on gb news. Welcome back to Patrick Christys tonight. Only on gb news now. Still to come. Lee anderson hits back at foreign secretary David Cameron, who insists that leaving the echr would not help stop the small boats crisis. But stop the small boats crisis. But first, has sunak beaten starmer on that crucial election issue of defence spending . Its time for tonights head to head. So for tonights head to head. So rishi sunak this week announced bold plans to increase britains defence spending by £75 billion over the next six years, bringing britains annual defence budget up to £87 billion by 2030. This will make us comfortably the biggest spenders on defence in nato after the us. Of course, now, as recently as yesterday, labour were pledging to match the tories on defence spending. Yes, 2. 5 by 2030 2. 5 as the target we need to get to because thatis target we need to get to because that is part of our obligations 2030, that is part of our obugafions 2030, that is part of our obligations as a member of nato. So that is what labour would be working towards. Do you want to match that . Do you want to match that . Would you do it by 2030 . Would you do it by 2030 . Yes. Labour would want to match that. Labour would want to match that. Labour would want to match that. But then labour would want to match that. But then this morning, Emily Thornberry was wheeled out to perform another screeching labour u turn. Keir said several weeks ago that we wanted to move towards spending 2. 5 on defence and indeed when we were in power last, that was about the amount of money that we were spending. But we will do it as as circumstances allow , as circumstances allow, as circumstances allow, as circumstances allow, as circumstances allow, while the labour party once again goes back on the word, sunak is actually doing something significant now to keep the country safe. Hes been in germany today to deepening defence ties with europe as the war in ukraine rumbles on. So tonight im asking as labour u turn on their defence spending pledge has sunak torpedoed starmer on that crucial election issue of defence . Let me know your thoughts. You can go to gbnews. Com yoursay or tweet me gbnews. While youre there, make sure you go and vote in our poll. The results will follow shortly. Look, going head to head on this now. Our tory mp James Sunderland and former labour minister of the armed forces, bill rammell shapps. Thank you very much. Great to have you both on the show, james, look, ill start with you really here. I mean, it looked a little bit last week anyway. Like maybe youd been outmanoeuvred by by, keir starmer. And i do think that now actually , it looks as though actually, it looks as though rishi sunak is, to quote an op ed in the sun today, saved all of our lives. Well , the answer is quite well, the answer is quite simple. Defence of the realm is the primary function of government. This is non discretionary activity. The decision has been taken to go to 2. 5 of gdp. As a commitment, i welcome that commitment, but its a reflection of the fact that the world is a dangerous place, the fact that our foes are emboldened and the fact that the threats are multiple and that we have to spend more on defence in order to safeguard british interests. British interests. Well, ill bring you in now, bill. I mean, it does appear as though that was just a skin deep policy announcement by labour, wasnt it . You were always going to have to just look under the bonnet of the finances, ben wallace said, oh, this is what youll do. Youll say that you need to look at the finances. Youll have a look at the finances, youll order some kind of review, and well be 2 or 3 years down the line under a labour government, and therell still be no whopping great big increase in defence. He was right, wasnt he . Right, wasnt he . No. Because fiscal credibility and responsibility matters to the labour party. And weve weve said consistently we want to get to 2. 5 of gdp. But as resources allow. But you know what sunak has committed to in terms of a specific timetable is wholly lacking in credibility. 14 years in power, having crashed the economy, having cut the army by 40,000 soldiers, having reduced defence spending from 2. 5 of gdp as it was under the last labour government. Now, in the dying days of this administration, they commit to the biggest defence transformation in generations. And on top of that, he says today they want more tax cuts. Its liz truss with knobs on and it would bankrupt our Public Services and bankrupt the economy in terms of a specific timetable. Okay, all right. But look james, i will put it to you. Is there a whiff of what happened to the police here, where you cut 20,000 Police Officers out of money . It was. And now you expect a round of applause for, you know, redeploying them . No, not at all. Weve seen a peace dividend since the Second World War and the cold war, threats of change. Responsible governments adapt to circumstances. And the circumstances. And the announcement today is reflective of that exact priority, and of course, its interesting. Listen course, its interesting. Listen to labour, of course, because three of the current cabinet, their shadow cabinet voted against trident, too not long ago. So labour cant be trusted on defence whatsoever , this is a on defence whatsoever, this is a clear commitment, labour are all at sea over this. It was embarrassing watching labour today. Embarrassing watching labour today. Their backbenchers were today. Their backbenchers were outflanking their frontbench on shadow defence, and it was actually quite amusing to see the fact that the tories have stolen a march on this. The tories are doing the right thing. The tories are investing in defence and security, quite rightly because of the world that we are living in, and labour has no answer but to snipe from the sidelines. All right. Look, bill, youve snatched defeat from the jaws of victory here. The labour party. Okay it all looked very rosy a couple of weeks ago now under the tories, we rishi sunak we have a vow to boost uk defence spending to 2. 5 of gdp by 2030. And actually we dont know what labour would do. Do we . Look, if sunak was serious about that, he would have put this commitment in the budget. This commitment in the budget. He didnt. Do we know what labour would do, bill . Yeah, yeah this is pure electioneering. Look at the scale of the commitment. Its more than the whole of the National Schools budget. If you look at the future tory public spending commitments, there are 17 cuts in non protected areas. What are labours commitments to defence bill go on. Yeah. Our our commitments is to get back to the amount of money we spent on defence as a proportion of gdp, but as resources allow, weve had the wish fulfilment from the tories. We saw how unfunded commitments can crash the economy as we had under liz truss and were not going to repeat that. So its not a policy bill, is it . Look, with respect bill. Its not is it. Its well well look to do this as resources allow one day. Bill id like to buy a maserati. When resources allow. Thats not a commitment, is it, bill . Well, but sorry if you make commitments that you dont have a credible means of delivering you one, then you imperil the economy. Two, you break peoples economy. Two, you break Peoples Trust in the process of politics and government. Thats what weve seen over the last 14 years under the tories. Were not going to do that as a responsible and credible labour party. And you know , this is party. And you know, this is about pure electioneering. The tories have made this commitment at the fag end of their time in office. They know that it will have to be delivered by the next government, almost certainly a labour government. Its a scorched earth strategy so that they can then criticise the labour party in power. Its not serious and responsible government. Look, james rishi sunak is adamant that this is fully costed. Is it . Can you prove that . Yeah, its fully costed because the figures have been released, if you look at the obr forecasts and the way in which the money will be found, to 2030, i think its pretty clear from the documents that came out. But its conservative fiscal pragmatism that currently is resulting in inflation falling Interest Rates will fall, Mortgage Rates will fall. Costs are thankfully coming down in many areas. And of course, the economy will grow and continue to grow and therefore its imperative that we use the, the benefit that we derive from increased income , from higher increased income, from higher wages, from higher taxation , wages, from higher taxation, which is a function of a improving economy to invest where we need to. So with respect, james, then bill is right. Youre going to tax us more so that we can boost our defence more. Is that just the truth of it . The truth of it . No, not at all. I mean, taxes will ultimately come down. But dont forget the take for the treasury will go up with an improving economy. Thats the point im making. And it is imperative right now , if you imperative right now, if you look at whats happening in the world, you know, labour can talk about, you know, when fiscal conditions allow. But the fact is we got the russians now who have invaded ukraine. Ukraine is not too far away. We have a not too far away. We have a non discretionary commitment to counter that threat with increased nato spending. That is whats happening. Weve got whats happening. Weve got instability in the middle east. Weve got the houthi firing on british ships, weve got iranian instability in the middle east. It is imperative that the British Government that a responsible British Government protects its people. Look, both of you top stuff. Thank you very, very much. Again, we could have just carried that on for another hour or so, but weve got to weve got to rattle through. So thank you. That was tory mp James Sunderland, former labour minister as well of the Armed Forces Bill rammell. Look who do you agree with. So as sunak now beaten starmer on that crucial issue of defence spending, your verdict is in. Interesting. This is 69 of you agree that sunak has beaten starmer on that crucial issue of defence. 31 of you say that he hasnt. Yeah, interesting isnt it . I suppose its that cast iron commitment from rishi sunak. It all looked great for labour a couple of weeks ago. And then they decided to row back and go, well well have to look under the bonnet of the finances. And you think, well, you probably will, but actually does that mean youll ever do it . So anyway, coming up, Meghan Markle bullying rumours are resurfacing years after palace staff first spoke out. So could the dam be about to burst . Former royal correspondent for the bbc, michael cole gives his unrivalled insight. But next David Cameron has contradicted his boss, appearing to rule out leaving the echr to solve the small boats crisis. But can the rwanda bill really save britains borders . Lee anderson tees off on lord cameron right after this break. Dont miss welcome back to Patrick Christys. Tonight on gb news. Look coming up, former royal correspondent for the bbc, michael cole, sheds more light on the Meghan Markle bullying rumours that are threatening to resurface. But first, its time for reform uks lee anderson mp. Five Illegal Migrants, including one young child. Tragically died while crossing the channel yesterday in a shockingly overcrowded dinghy that french authorities had waved off from the beach with no real resistance whatsoever. This comes just hours after the safety of rwanda bill, designed to stop the small boats, was finally passed in parliament, and then , in an apparent and then, in an apparent contradiction of the Prime Ministers position, David Cameron has today come out with us, i would say is we have to make sure we deal with illegal immigration. That comes first. I dont think its necessary to leave the echr. I dont think that is needs to happen to make this policy work. But i know what matters. The most. Its being able to say to the british public, weve got a fair immigration system, weve got a strong immigration system, and were not putting up with illegal migration. It must be for britain to say who can come and who cant come, rather than anybody else. Well, meanwhile, starmer seems sure that everyone to plan wont work at all. The government has lost control of the borders, but this rwanda gimmick is not the way to stop it. It cost an absolute fortune. £300 million already fortune. £300 million already another 50 million either this week or next to remove a few hundred people. Thats a drop in the ocean. The ocean. Okay, well, lee, welcome to the show. Now, is David Cameron right . That leaving the echr wouldnt help solve the small boats crisis. He also really kind of blamed our migrant crisis on brexit, didnt he . I dont think thats really he shouldnt be saying that, to be honest with you, patrick. Actually, you know, the fault of this problem weve got at the moment, the migrant crisis is that weve got a weak government thats not prepared to do the right thing. And the right thing right thing. And the right thing is, is turn backs in the english channel. We know that works. Other countries have done it. Its succeeded in the past. And to be really brave when these Illegal Migrants lets get it right, patrick. They are Illegal Migrants. Theyre not genuine Asylum Seekers. Once they get to this country, stick them on a boat and send them straight back to france. It needs political will. It needs a courageous government to do this. And we can do it. Is he right then, though, that we dont need to leave the echr . I dont think we do. I mean, i would sooner leave the echr just ignore it. Take these people back. These people are breaking into our country and were seeing the awful news yesterday. Patrick. Five people dying, people rushing these, these dinghies on the french beaches, jumping on and creating my own people, you know, being thrown into the sea, little children dying. Its disgusting. And actually parliament, where i work has got blood on its hands. This should be stopped. What have you made of David Cameron . You know, when you were in the tories. Hes a. To be fair. I mean, hes only elected. I mean , me and several elected. I mean, me and several colleagues and probably most of ashfield werent very happy that a bloke just turns up and gets a lordship and becomes foreign secretary. Every other mp in that place, you know, regardless of what part youre in, patrick has had to fight to be elected. Ive had to fight for votes. Ive had to fight for votes. Ive had to campaign. Ive had to knock on doors. Iraqs hope is, you know, is given a place in the house of lords, become foreign secretary, not accountable. We cant question accountable. We cant question him in the house of commons. We have to do it through other ministers, but he was blaming brexit because what is the thing . Because he was saying he was saying that, you know, when we were in the european union, we were in the european union, we could have had this returns agreement with france and now we dont, dont have it. What do you make of that . Well, if hes blaming brexit then he needs to have a look at himself in the mirror because it was him in his reminded. It was him that gave us the referendum that ultimately left for us to, to leave the european union. So if hes going to blame anybody, blame himself. But i dont i dont swallow that at all. Again, patrick, i go back, you know, its political will. You know, its political will. You know, if wed had some of the leaders in charge of this country like weve had in the past, like a churchill or a maggie in charge, this nonsense would not be happening. Okay. All right, now im just okay. All right, now im just going to shift it on a bit because theres sort of a story this morning, i thought youd be quite good to get your take on this. So rishi sunak is urging big businesses to employ prison leavers to solve britains labour shortage, with free courses on a range of Skills Including forklift truck driving, gardening and furniture painting. Now look, lee, is this a clever solution to rehabilitation or actually, frankly, a disaster waiting to happen . Happen . Well, ive always said that i always believe in giving people second chances. Patrick, i think theres a lot of people in prison that need a second chance. Obviously, theres some that you can give them two, three, four chances and they will recommit offences. But we have in this country probably about 90,000 people in prison at the moment. And i know for a fact we all know that weve got probably 80 odd thousand vacancies in, you know, picking fruit, picking vegetables in agriculture sector. That for me has always been a simple solution. Ive said it in the solution. Ive said it in the past, but look, we have prisoners coming out of prison now. Theyve got nowhere to live, theyve got no job, theyve got no skills. The chances of them are reoffending are pretty high. I say give them are pretty high. I say give them a chance, learn them a trade, get them that , get them into get them that, get them into that habit of getting up in the morning, going to work and being respectful and learning those life skills and those work skills. They need to get back into the employment market. Give them a chance. Yeah, look, im all for that. I am all for that. My concern would be a situation where a hard working School Leaver whos done nothing wrong in their life, finds themselves in a situation where theyre being bumped down a queue because someone whos just left prison, you know, a prolific shoplifter or whatever, hes been trained to drive a forklift truck for free instead of them. We cant have that. No, i understand that argument, patrick. But then again, you know, to keep a prisoner in prison is probably a thousand £2,000 a week to keep these people in prison. Its these people in prison. Its much cheaper and its better for the country if we can get these people. Some of them had a bad start in life. We know that ive worked with some of these people in the past. Give them a chance, give them a chance to work and contribute towards our society. If they cant, if theyre going to be complete nuisances and re offend, then get them back inside and lock them up as far as im concerned. All right. Now you mark Saint Georges day yesterday in your own unique style. Just a little reminder to people. Im. Im going to be, getting stuck right in, actually, to what i thought was absolutely disgraceful scenes , yesterday, really scenes, yesterday, really disgraceful scenes from our police who, although they might deny this, i thought seemed incredibly ready to want to really, really go on the offensive against just patriotic englishmen and women. But lee, like i was saying, you had your own unique style when you were marking Saint Georges day. You have a little look on, please. There. Look. Flag of saint george. Its Saint Georges day to day, and this country of ours has been a gift to the world. Look at the industrial revolution. Culture, arts, revolution. Culture, arts, music, sports. Everywhere you music, sports. Everywhere you look on this planet, you see some of that. Some of that. So not everyone was feeling as patriotic as you. Its fair as patriotic as you. Its fair to say one, one twitter user said here we go. Classic was this saint george was born in cappadocia, turkey, the 27th biggest producer of avocados. Hes also the patron saint of catalunya, which celebrates ladeira de sant jordi today and of other nations. If he arrived in the uk. This is the classic line. If he arrived in the uk shores, right wingers like you would deport him to rwanda, well, i mean, look, itd take a bit more than that to dampen your patriotism. What do you make of these people who are so ready to just, well, urinate on your chips . Well, i mean, these people, i mean, its completely wrong. Whoever this person is about being deported to rwanda, theyd probably get put in saint george would probably get put him in a four star hotel. Hed probably put a dodgy asylum claim in, go to the local church and claim is a christian, get baptised and then do whatever he wants to do. But this is nonsense. You know, whenever i put something on social media, patrick, that is seen as patriotic, you get these lunatics, these nutters coming out, just dissing our country. And i, quite frankly, ive always said it. If youre not happy with our history, our heritage, our culture, our way of life and things like Saint Georges day, then clear off and go and live in another country. What did you make of some of the Police Response . Were going to talk about this a little bit later on. Its been a big issue. What do you make of some of the Police Response . Well, its funny you should say that, patrick, because where my office is in, in in parliament, its literally 50 yards away from, from downing street. And ive been there for the past four years. Ive seen the past four years. Ive seen the blm riots, which was scary. Ive seen the pro palestinian marches , the hamas supporters up marches, the hamas supporters up and down whitehall on an almost weekly basis. And yesterday i saw the saint george rally there, and its the first time ive ever seen the police get stuck in. And all the other times when weve had some really scary scenes, when, as mps , scary scenes, when, as mps, weve been scared to go out, theyve done nothing. I wasnt scared to go out yesterday it was 150 lads with Saint Georges cross a bit, a bit boisterous lad, but they werent causing trouble from what i could see. Yeah, i mean no, ive got some quite damning clips actually. Ready to play you shortly anyway, which just compares and contrasts the difference in Police Reaction to the kind of things that lee was just talking about there and the kind of reaction that we saw yesterday. I get your views coming in, though, of course, lee, look, thank you very, very much. Yeah. Like i was saying, so was the heavy handed Police Response to Saint Georges day crowds yesterday another sinister example of two tier policing . To be honest , sinister example of two tier policing . To be honest, i actually wonder if it went a bit further than that. You know, is it now becoming illegal to be a white english patriot in this country . I give my take at ten. But next, allegations of bullying made against Meghan Markle are bubbling to the surface. Once again. But could former staffers be ready to expose all . Is the dam about to burst . The bbcs former royal correspondent michael cole reveals all next. Welcome back to Patrick Christys tonight. Still to come. After tonight. Still to come. After Police Fought with Saint Georges day crowds in the heart of the capital yesterday. Why arent they so heavy handed with pro Palestine Protesters . Ill give you my take at ten. But first, we welcome former royal correspondent for the bbc, michael cole, for the royal dispatch. So bullying rumours are swirling around about Meghan Markle wants a game with esteemed royal biographer tom bower claiming that the dam of silence has finally broken. Theres a trickle predicted to soon become a stream. Rumours of meghan bullying aides at the palace first broke back in 2020 after the sussexes former Communications Secretary jason knauf, raised a complaint. Fast forward a few years time and meghans former senior royal officer Samantha Cohen has now revealed to an Australian News outlet that she was one of the staff interviewed in the subsequent bullying investigation by the palace. Well, the investigation was triggered by several resignations from meghans team, with one staffer said theyd been left feeling sick after a tirade from the duchess. Others says i feel terrified and i cant stop shaking. After tantrums from meghan over issues as significant as the wrong shade of red being chosen for gas blankets at a lavish shooting weekend. This is all according to reports, of course, bower believes that now one of the staffers involved in the bullying investigation has spoken out. Plenty more will soon follow. Michael, welcome to the show. Look, is the dam about to break, do you think, on Meghan Markles bullying allegations are actually if shes done nothing wrong . Good evening. Patrick, in good evening. Patrick, in Buckingham Palace. Patrick there is a big safe. And inside that safe is the equivalent of an unexploded bomb that is the report that was drafted by the lawyer who was asked by Buckingham Palace to look into these allegations of bullying, which apparently allegedly took place after Meghan Markle joined the royal family in 2017. Now, the royal family in 2017. Now, the lawyer, spoke to ten witnesses and im sure guided by Employment Law and codes of conduct for the civil service, he drafted his report and he presented it and it went in the safe and im sure that the key to that safe is in the pocket of the kings private secretary. And what has happened is nothing. The ten witnesses who gave their time and gave their testimony do not know what the contents of that report is, let alone the rest of us. And it hasnt been made public. So one hasnt been made public. So one has to ask why it hasnt been made public. And perhaps that is a decision that the king will take in due course. But obviously he has to balance it. What is going to be the effect depending upon the content of that report . Now, as you just so that report . Now, as you just so rightly said , witnesses, some of rightly said, witnesses, some of them said that they were shaking with fear that they were in tears. They felt physically sick. And it is worth noting , sick. And it is worth noting, saying that, since weve been taking an interest in Meghan Markle 17, i repeat, the number 17 close members of staff have left the employ of the duke and duchess of sussex. Duchess of sussex. I mean, its a lot, isnt it . I mean, it is. It is a lot. And obviously this could be for a variety of different reasons. You know, they do a lot of different projects that might have all been, you know, just short termism and people using them for a leg up, whatever. It could be a variety of different things, but i think it does raise some serious questions, doesnt it . And once one person comes forward, others can. And the thing that normally does for people is hypocrisy. And if Meghan Markle is on record, which i believe she is saying that she felt hurt and bullied, etc, then that kind of stuff tends to come back to bite you, doesnt it . Do you know what i think it is . Its a cultural difference in this country. We tend to say if were talking to the waiter or someone serving us in the shop, may i have, could i possibly have something in america . They say , can i get can america . They say, can i get can i get a cheeseburger . Its so i get a cheeseburger . Its so very different. And that is absolutely accentuated in hollywood, where people are given orders, particularly even if youre the sixth person on the call sheet for a show called suits , you order people around. Suits, you order people around. Its peremptory. And of course, its peremptory. And of course, if youve got blue eyes, do you have the right shade of blue eyes . Because if you dont, youre out on your ear. Theres no none of the civility, none of the politeness, none of the things that we take for granted in this country or certainly used to. So i think it is a cultural difference, perhaps , cultural difference, perhaps, because when you have to struggle to the top in hollywood, you can bet your life youve had to tread on a few fingers on the way there. And that has been accentuated by, i think, a lack of understanding. That said, certainly you mentioned Samantha Cohen was called , samantha the panther for called, samantha the panther for her straightforward ways when she was working for 20 years and very closely with the queen, she apparently said or raised the question of whether meghan ever intended to be a member of the royal family. But her sights were already set on california and going back to where she felt most comfortable. One thing most comfortable. One thing that, has been quoted, is that meghan said that it is not my job to coddle these people. Well, you can coddle eggs and you can throw people. So we dont know. But what i think it dont know. But what i think it would be very, very interesting to see what is in that book. Now, the king has got to make a judgement. If this judgement is very negative , and let it be very negative, and let it be said that duke and duchess of sussex have strenuously denied that she was ever a bully. Yeah, that she was ever a bully. Yeah, yeah, but if this lawyer who wrote the report and interviewed ten people, if he decides otherwise, and if it is damning or highly critical, then what would the reaction of the sussexes in california be . Would there be more bile . Would there be more accusations . Would there be more accusations . Would there be more accusations . Would there be more unpleasantness . So its a difficult situation. The answers are all inside that safe. And the key, as i say , is safe. And the key, as i say, is in the pocket of the kings private secretary. Well watch this space. Watch this safe, michael. Thank you very, very much. That is the wonderful michael cole there. All the best. Take it easy now. Coming up as military horses escape wreaking havoc across london. Is it animal cruelty to use horses in the military in 2024 . Animal risings co founder dan kirby goes up against Lieutenant Colonel stuart crawford. Were debating stuart crawford. Were debating that one. But next, after riot cops clashed with Saint Georges day crowds in Central London yesterday is this another example of blatant two tier policing . Im actually going one step further than that. Im asking whether or not it is becoming illegal to be white, patriotic and english in england. I have my say and thats next. This is Patrick Christys. Tonight we are only on gb news and now its your weather with alex deakin. Weather with alex deakin. That warm feeling inside from boxt boilers. Sponsors of boxt boilers. Sponsors of weather on. Gb news. Weather on. Gb news. 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Its on the right hand side of your screen right hand side of your screen right now or go to gb news. Com alerts. Back now to patrick. Is this a crime in england to be white and patriotic . The metropolitan police appeared to want a fight yesterday. They appeared to want to hammer people celebrating Saint Georges day before the event even started, they decided to kettle people in. They decided to ban face coverings as well. So they tweeted this. A number so they tweeted this. A number of people have been seen in the area wearing masks. A section 60 area wearing masks. A section 60 aa order giving officers the power to require the removal of face coverings is now in force. Face coverings is now in force. What . You mean face coverings like these do you . Thats interesting. That guy there as well who seemed free to wear a mask while brandishing what looks a lot like the al qaeda flag. Yeah, there we go. Theres flag. Yeah, there we go. Theres people there covering their faces as well. No, no dispersal order there is there . Thats interesting. Okay. All right. Well, there were these scenes of people in a pub chanting things like , im england till i die. Like, im england till i die. And, you know, the old ten german bombers in the air song. German bombers in the air song. Braverman ashlee good bucha. Braverman ashlee good bucha. Mbappe aurora borealis. Mbappe aurora borealis. Mbappe aurora borealis. Heres how the police responded. Trouble in the state. Responded. Trouble in the state. Trouble in the pub. Bibby trouble in the pub. Bibby stockholm. Sunny virk. Really . Some people may find those chants unsavoury. All right. But may i remind everybody that this was allowed a genocidal slogan on big ben . From the river to the sea can be heard every other saturday, right across the capital city. And probably in a town or city near you as well. Chants in support of the houthi rebels. And of course, this stuff about actual jihad are sabina nessa. Sabina nessa. Neil kinnock. Neil kinnock. Well, theres a marked difference, isnt there, in how heavy handed the police are when it comes to people waving the flag of saint george as opposed to the now incredibly fashionable palestinian flag . There we go. There we go. Wow, children. Wow, children. All right, so you got to look at that. Now, ive looked at this. Not a Police Officer in sight. There, was there really . Sight. There, was there really . Seriously . Could you see one . I couldnt see one. But when you cant see the Police Officers, what do they actually do . Look at this. Place for fact, i cannot believe. Dont do that. Dont do that. You guys are taking this well. Not a huge amount. Thats the right kind of protest. Were not right kind of protest. Were not going to get involved in that kind of protest. Oh, the other one wasnt even a protest, by the way. Its a celebration now. Before the usual types start up at me. Yes, i know there may be not everyone at the gathering for Saint Georges day was a saint themselves. I know, like in any crowd , there might be in any crowd, there might be a few unsavoury characters. Fine. But look, when you compare this. To this . Yeah, its right up. To this . Yeah, its right up. Often i wrote unbelievable. Often i wrote unbelievable. Often i wrote unbelievable. Why is it that our police force in england decided to take batons and horses to ones waving the england flag, and not those who, in my view, all too often hate this country and everything we for. Stand lets get the we for. Stand lets get the thoughts of my panel this evening. The director of popular conservatives, mark littlewood. Ive got businessman and activist adam brooks and author and journalist rebecca reid. And journalist rebecca reid. Mark, ill start with you. The police. Theyre taking, in my police. Theyre taking, in my view, in my view, an unforgivable approach to people just out celebrating Saint Georges day. Georges day. Its a pretty staggering selection of clips that youve got there. Patrick and i was trying to look through look , i trying to look through look, i wasnt at the coalface at any of these events, but i was trying to look through on the news reports about what was done wrong. The crowd sang england til i die joined in with songs including sweet caroline and take me home, country roads, something im guilty of myself many times over recent years, ive heard you do it. The only thing that i can find, which i found a bit weird, was laurence fox said he was afraid to walk the streets of the capital city because the met police is run by the most corrupt dictator the world has ever seen. Im no fan world has ever seen. Im no fan of sadiq khan, but that might be an overstatement. Heres the problem though, right . Its not just whether justice is problem though, right . Its not just whetherjustice is being just whether justice is being done or policing is being done, its whether its seen to be fair. Yeah. And if there is any suggestion , and i think you have suggestion, and i think you have raised a very fair suggestion with those clips that policing is different. One type of the community for the other, we saw the gideon falter case with somebody who was openly jewish being treated apparently differently. Once that happens, differently. Once that happens, faith in policing breaks down, even if theyre going to say an awful lot happened that you dont know about. But if the perception breaks down, im afraid faith in the police force breaks down. Thats a disaster. I think it appears to me out of anyway, at the moment we have a police force in our capital city who sees quite often blokes with bald heads draped in this flag of saint george as a threat. But people carrying the al qaeda flag as people who can just crack on with their lives. Ill tell you what is. Its political policing. This is two tier policing. So for me, the tier policing. So for me, the you cant always blame these officers. This comes from the top. Weve got a woke police commissioner. Weve got sadiq khan , whos the worst mayor we khan, whos the worst mayor we could have at this time at the end of the day, i believe the met hierarchy , give the orders met hierarchy, give the orders to allow certain things because they are scared of the backlash. They are scared of the backlash. If they are seen to be batting in pro palestinian , protesters in pro palestinian, protesters or blm protesters , theyre or blm protesters, theyre scared that theyre going to be labelled. We see this with the rotherham grooming gangs. Police were told from downing street to ignore certain things in case it inflamed social tensions, in case they were labelled as racist. This is what is happening with the met police. They are scared to do their job and actually enact the law and thatis and actually enact the law and that is scary times. Why was there even a problem about so this is this is this is early doors. This this is before things were, you know, the Police Presence there kettling people for in what, you know, other protesters seemingly allowed to go wherever they go. Thats not a protest, actually. Sorry. Even its not even a protest. So what am i talking about . Its a celebration of Saint Georges day, right . So, yeah, its just people out there having a few pints. Granted, probably. But why are the police probably. But why are the police getting the horses are coming in . What for . I think the argument that its two tier policing falls down when you look at the treatment of the women at the Sarah Everard vigil, there is a real problem with the way that police deal with events in this country, whether they are demonstrations or or vigils or celebrations. I am not a fan of the police and i think that they are badly trained and badly equipped to handle this situation. There are some men scrapping in that, and i theyre not. I doubt they got the permits and permissions they perhaps needed, but those men are clearly not terrorists. Theyre clearly not here to try and hurt anybody. And the police are, i think are lots of lots of times drunk on their own power. And they enjoy breaking up things so that they can. But but but not when it not when it comes. So lets just remember lots of other left wing causes have been and the openly jewish thing is the same thing. They are consistently bad at this. And thats not political. This. And thats not political. Theyre just bad at it. Lets just remember were not not anti police here. I dont know, i am anti police. Well, youre anti police. So at the youre anti police. So at the end of the day, if someone breaks into your home, who do you call . You call . They will do nothing. They will do nothing. No. If there was an intruder in your house, who do you call . Oh, if i call somebody right now, you call the police. I honestly, i dont know if i would because they want to live harm. If we want to live in a civilised society, we need a police force that does its job and it doesnt do its job. And they have to do their job fairly. Theyre not doing that in london at the moment. Across the country, the idea that you would, you would have people literally chanting, i mean, all sorts of obscene filth on a, you know, every other given saturday in london genocidal stuff, anti semitic stuff. And you would conceivably storm a pub because of ten german bombers in the air. Yeah. I think come on. No, thats right. And im often adam and i agree on most things. I sometimes find you a little overstated , adam. But on little overstated, adam. But on this occasion, youve been understated to me. You have been understated. The problem is worse than you are suggesting, because i dont think it is a clear order coming from on high. I think its a nudge and a wink and a suggestion. You dont think mark rowley is woke . I mean, hes hes a real old school. No pride. He tried to school. No pride. He tried to ban pride badges. He tried to ban pride badges. He tried to ban anything other than the bobby overall culture. Hes weak. Hes weak. Hes weak. Its not. Its not. Its not. I think hes bad at his job, but hes not. Right on in my view. Its not that an order has gone down to say, smash up the Saint Georges marches, but let the pro palestinian marches happen. There wont be a piece of paper or a memo that said that its worse, its more insidious. Its a nudge and a wink. And are you going to get on and whats the right thing to do and what will it look like . And weve actually just got to get back, actually back to the memos and the orders and the clear rules and procedures, because ive been looking through this and i cant distinguish by one was policing. Lets remember , a lot of the lets remember, a lot of the Mainstream Media wont report it. But yesterday , tommy it. But yesterday, Tommy Robinson was cleared in court. In his case against the met police, the met police unlawfully banned him from london. From london, he was pepper sprayed. Now has the pepper sprayed. Now has the hierarchy then flex their muscles knowing that hes going to be in london and his friends are going to be in london, and supporters are maybe going to be in london and thought , oh, were in london and thought, oh, were going to send the message back. They werent so strong when there were people who are members of a now banned terror group, hizb ut tahrir. At the end of the day, thats the point. If someone says they want jihad on the streets of this, of this city, i want that person pred this city, i want that person ripped off forcefully and stuck in a van. But that doesnt happen. They were all right to say that. They were all right to say that. And the Police Issued a that. And the Police Issued a thing to say. I was context we needed. There was this context around the word jihad. Jihad does mean struggle. Technically, it translates as struggle. Come off it. Youre not that naive that theyre singing that for struggle. Theyre not. Yes, i agree with that. Theyre not just saying im not there. I didnt hear it. I dont like to speculate about things that i havent seen, but it does look like these are being treated differently and that is a problem. But theyre not a problem. But theyre not a problem. Even if it looks like look at the eid celebrations. Some of them were over policed. The Sarah Everard vigil was over. The police are just bad at their job. Different places, riots at the end of eid. So how do you want to remember . Overall question. Women were being sat on by Police Officers and choked. How do you answer a similar point though . Isnt it because theyre still not members . Theres not members of the pro palestine, dare i say it, british muslim community. And there is a difference there in there is a difference there in the Police Response. And i think thats worth highlighting. And theyre not in riot gear. Then at the end of the day, i believe they dress up in riot gear for the Sarah Everard everard vigil. Weve got a wrap. Weve got to wrap people. But thank you, thank you, thank you. Coming up, we reveal the trans supply teacher explaining gender identity to seven year olds in tonights press pack. And another absolute corker, by the way. Its it is, believe it or not, drag queens for palestine time. But next after household cavalry horses escaped today causing chaos across london is the use of horses by the military. Actually animal cruelty. Co founder of military. Actually animal cruelty. Co founder of animal rising, dan kirby goes up against Lieutenant Colonel stuart crawford. Thats next. And its on this is Patrick Christys. Tonight were on gb news. Coming up, i will bring you the very first of tomorrows newspaper front pages. They are hot off the press with my top panel. But first. Unbelievable scenes in the heart of london today as blood soaked horses. Who has escaped from the household cavalry rampage through the streets. Look. Streets. Look. Well, after five horses broke free during a Training Exercise , they did Training Exercise, they did cause chaos. They smashed into vehicles and pedestrians and four people were being treated for injuries in hospital. But amazingly , two of the spooked amazingly, two of the spooked animals actually managed to get this right to gallop nearly six miles far into east london. I mean, seriously, its quite the feat, actually. So all the feat, actually. So all the horses have since been recovered. Thankfully they are receiving medical attention as well, but the incident has now raised questions about the safety and ethics of using animals in the military especially, i think it must be said in very busy, built up areas like our capital city. Im delighted now to welcome the co founder of animal rising. Hed be and Defence Analyst Lieutenant Colonel stuart crawford. And both of you. Thank crawford. And both of you. Thank you very much. Great to have you on the show. Dan, i mean, i think i can guess your answer on this, but i mean , you know, do this, but i mean, you know, do you think that this is this is maybe the end of the line now for work . Horses like this . For work . Horses like this . Yeah. Well, i mean, these have been on their way out for a long time now, really, havent they . I long time now, really, havent they . I mean, i think what i want to stress is that these were dramatic scenes that we saw seeing shocking scenes. And im sure many people sitting at home were highly distressed to see what was happening. But this is an out of the ordinary during william and kates wedding, we saw horses breaking loose and bolting. We saw that happening. Happening at the queens funeral , a few years ago in hyde park, a horse got their leg caught in a horse got their leg caught in a gun carriage and broke their leg and then was killed by the military, so as much as this has been, you know, this has cut through into the media today, we really want to stress this is this is common, common in this, unjust practice. Unjust practice. Okay . And obviously youd ban it. Im just going to ask you now, a Lieutenant Colonel stuart crawford. I mean, are these horses well looked after it was, ill be honest with you, it was quite upsetting, really. I think today seeing, seeing, seeing those horses, you know, challenging the capital city obviously spooked one of them bleeding. Bleeding. Well, absolutely. I mean, i dont think anybody would be delighted to see, animals and distress , running about because distress, running about because obviously theyve been spooked at. And it is i mean, it is quite shocking to see a white horse covered in blood running through the streets of our, of our capital city. I would just say that, and i and i do really, understand and im sympathetic with the arguments against the uses of horses, but they are purely for ceremonial purposes, and you only have to look at them, to realise how well looked after they are in terms of how their house and trained and the Veterinary Services that they are provided for them. So i think that its not quite a black and white issue, there are sort of, grey issues, if you like to to be, be dealt with here. But in the past, of course , horses have been a fundamental part of , the military part of, the military endeavours. And in the first world war, for example, britain alone , lost nearly 500,000 alone, lost nearly 500,000 horses killed in that conflict. But we must remember that we also lost nearly a million men in that conflict. So its not quite cut and dried. Okay. All right, dan, i mean, look, they are ceremonies. Look, they are ceremonies. Theyve got a purpose and they are clearly, i would imagine , are clearly, i would imagine, for the most part, very, very well looked after. What would you do with them all. You know, they might not even have a life if they if they werent, werent there for that purpose. Yeah, well, i want to talk through, like, what it means to be a ceremonial horse, so these are, in unnatural environments for horses forced to do unnatural things. They have very rigid, highly controlled movements that these horses are forced to make. And how is it that that happens . Well you have a rider sitting on their back holding reins, and those reins are attached to metal bits that go into their mouth and tongue very painfully, very severely at the horses mouth, which forces them to then respond with the movements that the rider wants. So this is a very uncomfortable, painful, stressful experience for horses and you add into that the fact that they are surrounded by by onlookers, by people looking at whats happening. You know, horses are prey animals, like, small things that happen can spook them, can scare them. So you have the pain that theyre experiencing, you know, the havoc off the streets andifs know, the havoc off the streets and its clear that this just needs to stop happening. Needs to stop happening. All right, look, stuart, do you think dans been a bit soft there . Stuart. Pathetic. Im sympathetic to what hes saying, but, its a two way street, the horses have been part of, of co existed with human beings for, centuries, thousands of years. And that thousands of years. And that will continue. And theyre not exploited in the same way as they used to be, but they are extremely well looked at. I mean, i come back to my point. You only have to look at the horses. Sorry, the horses that the household cavalry, rides in london and elsewhere in ceremonials to see how well looked after they are. And so looked after they are. And so i think that, we have to be cognisant of the fact that to a certain extent they are being exploited. But theyre also extremely well looked after. Yeah. Okay i mean, dan, look, theyre not theyre not showjumping, okay . They are not racing in the grand national. Theyre not actually being fidden theyre not actually being ridden into battle. All right. Ridden into battle. All right. I mean, for as far as you can tell, you know, these horses are surely absolutely fine, arent they . I surely absolutely fine, arent they . I mean, what they might enjoy it a bit more. They might have more stimulation than if you just put them out to pasture. Well, these horses spend most of their lives, in very small stables, standing still, even as part of the military practice. They have to stand still for very long periods of time. You know, weve seen these horses today. Theyve ran. Theyve ran like 5 or 6 miles. Horses, the image that we have of horses, that that, you know, that we are told in our storybooks of horses running in open fields , and, you running in open fields, and, you know, instead were met with images like this. Its like, i think what we really need to do is take this quite shocking, dramatic incident and use it as an opportunity to really re evaluate our relationship with animals and see what is it, what is the way that we do want to coexist with them. Yeah. All right. Stuart, if their only purpose really is ceremonial, then whats the point . I mean its a living ornament. Then isnt it. Well, well yes it is. Its part of the british tradition. And, and many people would say and a good thing too , i think and a good thing too, i think the more interesting question might be in the light of whats happenedin might be in the light of whats happened in london recently, is the use of horses by the police force to enforce law and order. Yeah. Where i think there is a great utility in using them. And of course, famously up here in scotland, they have been used on numerous occasions for crowd control at football matches between, our two rival glasgow , between, our two rival glasgow, football teams. So i think they have utility. I think theyre useful, but i do think theyre well looked after. And within the context of the fact that they are being used by humans for a purpose, i think basically weve got it more or less. Right. Yeah. Okay all right, guys, look, good stuff. Thank you very, very much. Great to have you both on the show. That was the co founder of animal rising, dan kipe there and Defence Analyst Lieutenant Colonel stuart crawford. How can i be honest with you . Im unusually. Im unusually split on this issue. Unusually split on it. I really didnt like looking at that today with the horses running through the city, i thought, but then i think, well, you know, its part of tradition , i suppose. And they do they do serve a practical purpose. Theyre not just living ornaments, as i was saying there. But anyway, look, coming up, coming up. What do you dare get in a flying car . Well one now exists and were going to show it to you. But next i will bnng show it to you. But next i will bring you the very first look at tomorrows newspaper front pages, hot off the press with Tonights Panel of top pundits. And yes, its exists. Its drag queens for palestine. Stay okay. Welcome back to Patrick Christys. Tonight we are on gb news. And ive got the very first look at tomorrows front pages. Lets do it. All right, pages. Lets do it. All right, then we go in with the metro. Then we go in with the metro. Labour nationalised rail in five years. End of the line for failing train firms. Election promise to axe franchises. But industry warns political plan will raise costs. Well, of course they would say that. Anyway. Lets go to the independents. Sabre rattling sunak eu must spend more on nato to fight putin. The Prime Minister has challenged his european allies to match his increase in defence spending to counter axis of authoritarian states. Yeah, interesting. He really is. He really is trying to lead the way on that, isnt he, right. The sun judes going dutch. Hey. Good lad. Footie superstars new romance reveal Jude Bellingham scoring on and off the pitch. Anyone . Anyone no. All right. Fine. Sorry. So sorry. Sorry exclusive royal tragedy. Okay, beatrice acts in drug death. Now we go to the i revealed labour plan to nationalise uk railways. So theyre both going off on the old uk railways. Labour will immediately start process of bringing rail system back under pubuc bringing rail system back under public control. For the first time in 30 years. The guardian. Yep, same one here. Labour pledges to nationalise rail Network Within five years and the era of peace in europe is oven the era of peace in europe is over. Kyiv warns the west. Yes. And theres obviously a lot of pictures about galloping horses, which we have just covered here. Now. I am, of course, joined by my fabulous panel. I have got the director of popular conservatives, mark littlewood. Ive got businessman and activist adam brooks and author and journalist robert reid. Im going to whistle you a couple of those front pages and get straight into this, because you think that the cass report would scare the gender ideologues away from our children, but it appears theyre still at it. A appears theyre still at it. A trans supply teacher at a church of England School revealed their gender identity in front of seven year old pupils, telling them, im so gorgeous because ive put makeup on and had a shave , but it doesnt end there. Shave, but it doesnt end there. It was also revealed that a Childrens Charity in scotland called puberty blockers wonderful at rebecca. Are our children at risk here . Seven year old kids from, you know, trans ideologues . Trans ideologues . No, i dont think theyre at risk. I think that comment is taken out of context, and i can see exactly how it might have been a more, appropriate comment if you heard the whole thing. And the mum who reported it was very nuanced about it, she just said, look, i dont think this persons evil or bad. Im just confused at why this person in a classroom, fair question to ask. But the thing is, should it be said . I think the problem is seven year olds ask questions. So seven year olds will say things like, why doesnt that man have any arms . Why is that womans face look like that . And then you have to answer that question. So if a child said to the teacher, are you a man or a woman, they could reasonably be expected to say, i am a trans woman. Youre making up a scenario to excuse, but in that, in that scenario, what whats the teacher . At the end of the day, hes got a beard. Hes not gorgeous. Come on, dave, have you seen the man . Is there somebody who has a beard . Have you seen pictures of this person . Well hes had hes had a shave. So then they probably dont have a beard. Okay. Okay. The quote, the quote is this, isnt it . I mean, im assuming you werent there. You werent so gorgeous because ive put makeup on and had a shave. Now to my mind , patrick, now to my mind, patrick, actually, this isnt especially actually, this isnt especially a trans issue. Its just an issue of inappropriateness. Exactly. Whether this was a straight white woman saying, im so gorgeous because ive put on makeup in front of kids, or a straight man saying, you know, im so gorgeous, girls, because im so gorgeous, girls, because i work out in the gym. Its just not appropriate for seven year old kids. So to my mind, its not really the trans issue. Its the appropriateness. This is what troubles me a bit here. Ive had a look at what the head teacher has sent. I must call the head teacher, not headmaster. Rebecca keeps correcting me on that moving forward, says jen johnson. Moving forward, people always want to bury things, always time to move on. Its important to move and having spoken to the supply agency for this, was indeed a supply teacher. We have reaffirmed the schools expectations for what we expect supply teachers to deliver. Well, if i was a parent of a kid at this school, id like to know what that is. Im not saying you should be hung, drawn and quartered for this, but its inappropriate. My kids some discipline. One supply issue. Disrupt your whole childs education. Take my kid out of that school until so sad. Until that teacher is removed from the class supply teacher, theyre going to remove themselves. Thats the nature of the job. Thats the nature of the job. Do you agree . Do you agree . The headteacher should not be in that school. The head should. Should tell parents what they do expect from supply teachers and whether i dont think the disciplinary action here should be career ending. But i think there should be some. And from what ive heard from the school, its just sort of moving forward. Time to move on. Well, theyre pushing the responsibility back on stage. I just say, is it not arguably worse than right, that its gone from just maybe being, you know, a permanent teacher at the school or whatever to essentially a stranger who has been allowed to wander into a school fully dbs checked with a degree in education, just just plant that thing in lotus 70 year olds minds and then leave a fully trained teacher with a degree in inappropriate a full clean dbe enhanced pretending to be a woman trying to influence seven year old kids. But legally, transgender people have every right to be teachers. What are you going to do, fire somebody for being trashed . For being trashed . This is the thing, and keep their mouth shut about the gender ideology. But children, classroom children, children are then say to the children, i would expect to the children, i would expect to say, you know, thats not appropriate for me to answer that today. Ask mummy and daddy. I think you could very reasonably say that that im gorgeous thing isnt fair. But you but it is perfectly reasonable for a teacher to say i am gay or i am trans not. And you should be too. Or if you like barbies, youre trans. Why would seven year olds be asking their teacher whether theyre gay or straight . Because children arent. Who do you live with . Are you married . Children ask questions, but they wouldnt do ask to ask a question about that. So i mean, look, it seems to be a sentence out of context. It wasnt in a class about what used to be called civics when i was at school. It wasnt an engush was at school. It wasnt an english class. It seems just to be a sentence at the beginning. I think theyve got to clarify that. Theyve told this teacher that. Theyve told this teacher that they made an error, they made a misstep, and it mustnt happen again. Im not quite as hardcore as adam on this. I wouldnt, but that hasnt yet happened. I wouldnt want him teaching my kids again. So the school must clarify whether he comes back in. All right, all right. Well, would you let your child. You just wouldnt let child. You just wouldnt let your child be taught by a trans person . No, by a trans person that inappropriately puts , images or inappropriately puts, images or suggestions in my childs. Okay. So if theyre trans and theyre not talking being trans, thats fine. Right. Right. Well, thats what he said basically. Yeah. Come on. No im asking are you listening to me or not . But if youd be happy with the trans teacher, as long as they werent using this kind of language, if they taught how they meant to teach. And dont put suggestions in my childrens minds, then as long as it was just an english lesson right . Great. Great. Fantastic. So trans people are welcome to. But this wasnt just all agree. I think we all agree trans people can be teachers. Thats good. Okay, right now, 75 year old music legend jean michel jarre. Me neither. Jean michel jarre. Me neither. But maybe you do know that i dont know. Became the worlds first passenger riding this latest invention in slovakia. What do you get on this . Matthew what do you get on this . Matthew laza. It was a. Laza. It was a. Strap. Strap. Okay, so this is klein visions. Half plane hybrid. The visions. Half plane hybrid. The air car. Its the latest invention to turn the concept of flying cars into to a reality. The slovakian government revealed that they want flying taxis by 2030. I think ill stick to aeroplanes. Ive got to be honest with you. That to me, there doesnt seem to be a world of difference between that and plane. There is nothing that is, planes have wheels. You can drive a plane. Planes do have wheels. I got on one last night and it had wheels. Yeah. Sorry. Im calling. No sorry. Im calling. No is it environmentally friendly . What is the emissions on that thing . Im really worried for my kids future. Its a plane, adam. Its going to be the same as a plane, because. No, its electric. Its got some electric greeny thing about it. Oh. Brilliant play. The un will be happy, but its definitely a plane. Yeah, im not having it. Its a plane. All right, well, there we go. Look. Coming up, coming up. The climax of tonights show. Yes. Find out why Benjamin Butterworth features in our greatest britain and Union Jackass. But before that, we bnng jackass. But before that, we bring you more of tomorrows front pages. As well as the boy who sounds just like a seagull. Stay tuned welcome back to Patrick Christys. Tonight. Its time to give you even more of tomorrows front pages. Lets do it. I go front pages. Lets do it. I go with the mirror. Labour will nationalise rail in five years. Okay, the daily mail schoolgirl stabs teacher in neck a year nine pupil held for the attempted murder over horrific flick. Knife attack in playground at break. Got the telegraph. Starmer refuses to match the pms defence budget. Weve spoken about that already tonight. An interesting one. Tonight. An interesting one. This child drinkers rise in generation lockdown. The number of children in england consuming alcohol has risen hugely. Generation lockdown to reach record levels, International Research shows. So we can have child alcoholism to the list of damages to lockdown now. Sophie, well well done sending us all skin and those all getting their mates to buy them from supermarkets. No, theres nothing wrong with a little glass of wine with dinner when youre a child, its fine. Teaches you to appreciate after the daily express, horror in the playground as teacher stabbed. Yeah. The teacher was slashed across the neck. This is all allegedly and reportedly, of course, as she bravely tried to stop an alleged knife attack on a pupil. I would expect youre going to be hearing a heck of a lot more about that story on gb news tomorrow. Lets go to the times. England worst in world for underage drinking. There we go. So this is hit two front pages, third of 11 year olds have had alcohol. A study says that middle class is normalised. Harmful habits. That middle class is normalised. Harmful habits. I didnt really know. I appreciate the irony of me saying this, by the way, but i dont know how uncommon it is for an 11 year old to have a sip. You know, the parents to have given him a sip of wine. Yeah i started drinking when i was about 11. Yeah, i was too. No, no, i lived above i lived above pubs when i was about 13. I lived above pubs. I used to sneak down and try it. Try the been as long as its in moderation, its a problem. I think thats the. Thats thats the question though, isnt it . Whether or not lockdown has had some more of an effect on this. Right. Okay. Look, im joined as you are. Ive already introduced him. You know, ive just seen him. There you go, my wonderful press pack. But now its not just gender ideology being rammed down the throats of our children. Are you ready for this . A drag queen decides to introduce middle east conflict into the mix. Watch today what were going to do is were gonna shout free palestine can i hear that . Three mark steyn. If youre a drag queen and you know it shall free palestine. If youre a drag free palestine. If youre a drag queen and you know it and you really want to show it, youre a drag queen and you know it. Shout free. Excellent is it excellent . Is it excellent . Lets put him in gaza and see how long he survives, what even is it . Is it . That is a man dressed as a woman. Woman. Woman. No, but what is . No, but what is . Its a fella called. Its a fella called. About what . About what . Well, well, so . So . So we have. Well, well, so . So . So we have. So we have drag queen have. So we have drag queen story time. So i take my children on occasionally. Well, thats ridiculous, have you ever taken your kids to the pantomime, drag Queen Story Hour is not pantomime. That is a man in a dress. Just like in a pantomime. The same thing palestine. So free palestine. So free palestine. Basically, if you get people who are worthy enough, they like to double up. So then we cant just hook up to story time. We have to also have a queen and a bit of ultra. So look, this is very this is very this is very lefty american performative parenting. But you know what . Parenting. But you know what . When you have a kid and youre lonely in your board, you need somewhere to take your child. And for that it was advertised as being this. They all knew what they were getting into. Nobody was forced to go to each their own. I get, yeah, indoctrinating kids again. What i like my drag queens. Apolitical. No one is going on in the world. That is no one bizarre. Just no one there. Including that particular drag queen. Not appreciate the irony of drag queens for palestine. Yeah, the queens for palestine. Go to gaza. Youll be on the 10th floor of a building in no time, flying towards the pavement , of a building in no time, flying towards the pavement, wont you . Yeah. Fair enough. I think the argument would be that people are able to. Virtue signalling. Yeah its virtue signalling. I said virtue signalling. Virtual signalling. Virtual signalling. Youre not listening to me again. Its. Do you not think, i dont know, a bit ridiculous . Mark, im absolutely astonished. I cant im not a astonished. I cant im not a parent, but i cannot get my head around why anyone would think what you know. Ive got to drop the kids off. Want to, you know, stay with them, and, you know, im surprised you have to stay with it is drag queen, ultra lefty pro palestine because its fun. Well, the drag queen bit is that its fun. Its the same as pantomime. I dont like it when theyre in skimpy clothing, but thats what its pretty odd. Its fun. They sing songs. I think the drag queens get more out of this than the kids, and theyre saying, my worry. All right, so, now different story also involving kids. So nine year old Cooper Wallace from chesterfield travelled all the way to belgium to partake in a competition to do this three, two, one. So that was young cooper at the european girls screeching championships where he won. Well, cooper and his mother appeared on breakfast earlier today on gb news no. Earlier today on gb news no. Heidi, impersonate a seagull, for instance. I mean, mum, does for instance. I mean, mum, does he watch them . Does he study them . Does he practice this . He enjoys watching them at the beach , but he was bitten by the beach, but he was bitten by one while we were at the seaside a few years ago, and he believes hes got the spider man effect. Right. So. All right, right. So. All right , patrick, you so. All right, patrick, you have to Say Something now. Is that bad . Ill say it is that bad parenting . Is it bad parenting . Should you have let your kid come on National Television and do the seagull thing . A glittering career beckons. Like, im just so delighted that despite brexit, we can still enter the european golf screeching competition. I was warned by the remainers we never would be allowed to enter the european golf screeching competition. But here you go. I wonder if we pull at the heart of europe. I wonder if he pulls all over the patio. The patio. Yeah, ill tell you what. How far does he take it . I wanna know, does he nick your chips and put on your car . I think sometimes its okay to not encourage your children in their dreams. Sometimes its okay to say no more tv today. You know, i just think. I just think that kid is. Thats going to live with him forever on the internet. And its maybe thats fine. Maybe thats a fine thing. But is it, though, really, when you think about it, Michael Portillo, though, as a kid, was he the milky bar kid or something . He was michael. He was michael. Sorry, Michael Portillo was the milk was made famous as a kid in advertisement. I cant remember if it was milky bar or something else. Gb news presenter it wasnt a glittering career followed. Whos to say if you can take kids to pro palestine drag queens, you can definitely get them to act like a seagull. Well, thats the thats the beauty of parenting in this country, is that you can choose to educate your kids wherever you feel is appropriate, and seagulls screeching is part of that. Kids, it was the right being a kid. Michael portillo was the ribena kid. The ribena, ribena. What is that . Yeah, he was the ribena kid , right . The ribena kid, right . Look, this shows got weird quick. Okay . So, there we go. That was some stuff about seagulls. Its time to do todays greatest blessing. Union jackass , right. Mark, whos your jackass, right. Mark, whos your greatest . Britain, please. Frank. Field. Field. Okay, lets of a politician opposite side of the aisle. To me , sadly just passed to me, sadly just passed away. Brilliant, man. They dont make them like they used to. Imaginative thinker and somebody who reached out across the aisle. I really wish we had more politicians like frank field in todays politics. I also wish hed seen higher office, but he was a brilliant politician. Right. The way throughout his illustrious career sadly missed. Yeah. No. Very good start. Yes. Go on. Adam, mine is james sps. Who . Who has wrote a letter to the pm calling for an inquiry into gender ideology and the harming of children, of which i am one of children, of which i am one of the signatories. Jk rowling. And many media figures are also on the list. Well done. Okay. All right. Okay. All right. Okay. All right. Rebecca, mine is those horses. I really respect the for break freedom, and im sad they didnt manage to make it to the countryside to build a better life for themselves, free from the shackles of the army. Oh, bless. Right. Now, can i just say sometimes the way that ichoose just say sometimes the way that i choose these greatest britain and Union Jackasses is im doing other stuff in the office, and, you know, some Wonderful Team out there. Theyll go, oh, look, can we just get you . And i dont really think about it. So i probably should have gone for frank field, but ive actually gone for rogue horses, so, sorry , frank, but. But there we go anyway. Right . Okay, so. So, who anyway. Right . Okay, so. So, who is your Union Jackass . Mark well, ive just mentioned for my nomination for greatest brit was a labour party politician. Heres the side of the labour party. I dont like the labour run Welsh Government have now finalised guidelines which could lead public bodies to remove, quote, highly contentious art from view. If it quote, insults or hurts members of the public. New anti racism guidance spare me this nonsense has to end. Yeah, it does really. I mean, so these are pieces of art that could hurt members of the public. Its not now just its not now just offensive. Its taking the wrong context. Insulted this will hurt you. Yeah. If you watch it all. Look at that. Monet itll hurt you. Yeah. Okay. Right. Adam, who is your union . Mine is labour mp angela raynen mine is labour mp Angela Rayner. For attacking rishis appearance and his height today. What a hypocrite. If it was back at her, she would be crying victim and so would the labour party. Heres the clip. Heres the clip. Heres the clip. Heres the clip. He was stitching their biggest election winner for a pint size loser. Its a bit much though, isnt it . Actually. Genuinely isnt it . Actually. Genuinely isnt it . No its like im the first person to defend her. But that was stupid and it just gave them an open goal to call her a hypocrite. What was she thinking . This lot are going to be empowering six or whatever. A months scary. I think shes obviously , i think shes obviously, josh, shes obviously pretty peed off, isnt she . Theyve gone after her on the tax thing, which, you know, i can understand, but, yeah , i thought understand, but, yeah, i thought i was, i just thought it was a bit weird. So theyve made. There have been previous times where her outfit choices and her appearance has been criticised, but just because somebody does it to you does not mean you can start doing it to other people. Thats not appropriate pint size loser i thought was a bit odd. Anyway, go on back. Whos youn so mine is my friend and colleague, Benjamin Butterworth, because last night he picked taylor swift as his gb, and thats my thing. And i dont think he should have been allowed to. And i wasnt allowed to have taylor swift as my greatest britain today. So, benjamin, im coming for you. Is this really happening . Is this the level. Is this is this the depths that weve plumbed here on . I asked if i could have been gone for days. Right. And i come back to this rubbish. So i asked her if i could do it, assuming id be told. No, im cooling off cos its like. Its like weve got a supply teacher. I imagine. Dont do that. No, no, no, its all right. I think. Dont do that. No, no, no, its all right. I think. I think its all right. I think. I think theyre busy. Ofcom like me. Right. Ofcom like me. Right. Okay. Shut up. Okay right. So todays, union jack carson is Angela Rayner mp. All right, well, look, thank you very , very well, look, thank you very, very much, everybody. This has been a lively show. Its been a pleasure for me to be back in case youve just tuned in. No, this isnt dickinsons real deal this isnt dickinsons real deal. Ive been away for four days. And the bad news for you is that theres a layer of red under this, which means the towns probably going to get even worse before it gets better. But thank you, thank you, thank you. Headliners are up next to with you through these front pages that ive got right here and whats inside the book as well, in a little bit more detail, im ready. Im raring and refreshed to go for tomorrow at nine, keep fighting the good fight, people. The good fight, people. A brighter outlook with boxt solar sponsors of weather on. Gb news. Hi there and welcome to the gb news forecast from the met office. Its going to be chilly overnight through the next 24 hours. However, increasing cloud will bring further showers by the end of thursday. Weve got the end of thursday. Weve got higher pressure ebbing away towards the west and this increased influence from low pressure to the east in between some clear spells overnight and a chilly northerly air flow. That means temperatures will fall quickly under any clear spells in rural sheltered spots, temperatures will dip below freezing , generally in urban freezing, generally in urban areas, 4 to 6 celsius, and therell be variable amounts of cloud. First thing as well. Theyll also be increasing amounts of showery rain moving through northern ireland, parts of wales, northern and central england, as well as the northeast of scotland. The northeast of scotland. The showery rain will become more widespread by the afternoon , so widespread by the afternoon, so for much of england and wales its a case of bright spells interspersed by showers, drier towards the northwest west of scotland, mostly dry, with some decent sunny spells. 12 or 13 celsius here. 14 or 15 in the southwest. Just ten again on the nonh southwest. Just ten again on the north sea coast. Friday starts off cold with a frost in many places. A sunny start, but quite quickly the cloud will build and well see further showers here and there, particularly towards the east. The weekend brings more unsettled weather from the south, longer spells of rain affecting many parts of england and wales, drier for scotland and wales, drier for scotland and northern ireland. That warm feeling inside from boxt boilers. Sponsors of weather on gb news. Good evening. Headliners is coming up next. But first, the top headlines this hour. Labour is promising to renationalise the railways if it wins the next general election. The party says it will be the biggest overhaul in a generation and claims that the taxpayer will not pay a pennyin the taxpayer will not pay a penny in compensation costs. It penny in compensation costs. It would mean all networks would transfer to Public Ownership within labours first term. Meanwhile, the governments own proposals include the creation of a new Public Sector body to hold responsibility for Rail Infrastructure and to award contracts. A teenage girl has been arrested on suspicion of attempted murder after two teachers and a teenage student was stabbed at a secondary school in wales. A man Valley School was put into lockdown shortly after 11 am. After three people were injured. Emergency services responded, including wales air ambulance. Police say the injuries are not life threatening. Forensic teams were on the scene and a knife has been recovered. The suspect