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Think. Send wed love to hear what you think. Send your views and post your comments by visiting gb news. Com youre safe. But first, heres the news with sophia wenzler. Good morning. Good morning. Its 930. Im sophia wenzler in the gb newsroom. We start in the gb newsroom. We start with some breaking news. At least five migrants have died after their small boat got into difficulties off the french coast overnight. The incident coast overnight. The incident happened off wimereux beach near boulogne , before 2 am. A number boulogne, before 2 am. A number of other migrants were rescued , of other migrants were rescued, with at least one now critically ill, in hospital. Gb news can ill, in hospital. Gb news can reveal that another five small migrant boats are attempting to make the crossing from france. One of the boats left a beach near calais at first light this morning, and is currently being escorted by French Border force. Shadow home secretary Yvette Cooper says it shows we need urgent action to tackle small boat crossings , and shows how boat crossings, and shows how dangerous these boat crossings are. They put lives at risk and they are undermining our Border Security and criminal gangs are making huge profits from these dangerous boats and from putting lives at risk in this way. And thats why we urgently need proper action to tackle these dangerous boat crossings. This mornings incident in the channel comes just hours after the governments flagship rwanda bill finally passed through parliament. The Prime Minister called it a landmark law, promising that nothing will stand in the way of flights getting off the ground. The bill getting off the ground. The bill designates rwanda as a safe country, allowing the government to deport Asylum Seekers there. To deport Asylum Seekers there. And for the latest stories , sign and for the latest stories, sign up to gb news alerts by scanning the qr code on your screen, or go to gbnews. Com slash alerts. Okay. Hello and welcome to britains newsround tv news with Andrew Pierce and carmelo. Hes still opening his laptop. Hes not quite ready. But anyway, here we go. Always ready now to bring you up to date on that breaking news. In the last hour, up to five migrants have died this morning crossing the channel just hours , literally after the just hours, literally after the rwanda bill was passed by the house of lords and the parliament. Our Home Security edhon parliament. Our Home Security editor, mark white, joins us now i good morning. Yes, a terrible tragedy thats unfolded just off wimereux, which is north of berlin. It was around 5 wimereux, which is north of berlin. It was around 5 am. Local time when french authorities reported that a migrant boat attempted to get into the water. Very overcrowded. More than 100 people on board that boat, according to the french coastguard. Now the french coastguard. Now the french coastguard. Now the french coastguard have also confirmed that the boat got stranded. It appears on a sandbank for a while. It then shifted there was a movement of people on board the boat which endedin people on board the boat which ended in some of those people entering the water were told that at this stage the those who died were three men, a woman and a young child. Its believed that a number of others were taken to hospital as well, as they were rescued from the water from the pitch black water, of course, cause still not yet first light. When this incident unfolded. And so the latest unfolded. And so the latest tragedy taking the number who have drowned so far this year to 14 as they attempt to make that illegal crossing to the uk. And as we speak more , more small as we speak more, more small boats are attempting to make the crossing gb news understands that at least five small boats are pushed off from french beaches this morning. Another three small boats off the beach at wimereux that very same beach that this tragic drowning occurred on just hours earlier, and also another small boat has left from the beach at calais to try to make it from dunkirk. One turn back. Another is offshore but has been suffering. I think mechanical difficulties because its not made much progress. So whatever rishi sunak might say in terms of the deterrent effect of his rwanda bill, thats certainly not being felt at the moment on the coast of france, as the people smugglers keep pushing these boats out towards the uk. All right, thats matt white, our Homeland Security editor, mike white. Hell keep us up to date on this throughout the program. Sarah vine dailymail. Com joins us. So this doesnt this make the point why this rwanda bill has to work . Absolutely. And it may be that people are just trying to get in before it. Yeah. You know, that we may see a little bit of a surge with people trying to get across before it comes into effect. But yes, i mean , i mean, i have a grudging mean, i mean, i have a grudging respect for rishi, to be honest , respect for rishi, to be honest, for pushing this through and for sticking to his guns. You know , sticking to his guns. You know, i mean, everyones always saying we want conviction politicians. I mean , this is certainly a man i mean, this is certainly a man whos shown conviction in relation to this policy. Relation to this policy. Do you think its translating that conviction is translating to the electorate . Do you think to the electorate . Do you think it matters to them or do they not believe him anymore . I dont think, i dont think, i think it would. I think rishi has more problems than i think the tory party has more problems than rishi himself. Do you know what i mean . I think i think he i dont think he can solve them. Really. To be perfectly honest, i think its very unlikely that he can turn it around. But i think what hes trying to do is to just do some things that he thinks are right before the end comes. And i think thats correct. You know, wouldnt you think that its interesting theyre saying five more boats are taking off this morning. So even when five people died, these people are still scrambling on board these boats that are not safe. Well, i mean, of course, now were coming into the boat season because it gets a little bit warmer and the seas are a little bit calmer. So i imagine that theres a huge backlog of people who have arrived on the on that coast waiting to go across, and the smugglers want their money. I mean, the thing about the rwanda scheme is, is it has always been primarily about stopping these criminals, you know, basically stopping them from making a fortune from, you know, basically human misery. You know, why do you think labour are have been trying to stop the rwanda bill. We i mean, well today weve were going to repeat it. Theyre going to repeal it. Yeah. Because what they want to do is because they think that people should be able to stay in the uk because they think, you know, theyre distrustful of. I mean, theres a whiff of condescension and racism to their policy because theyre distrustful of rwanda. They think its a sort of, you know, tin pot country. Yeah, very nice country, very popular with tourists and actually rwanda. Yeah. Of course, we all know rwandas had terrible past, but its worked very hard to try and rehabilitate itself in terms of its government and stuff, and of course. But you know, for them its just its just it going back to tony blair, it was always just an open door policy as far as theyre concerned. And of course, the other thing about about labour is that , you know, about labour is that, you know, if you look at the people who vote for labour, they tend to be disproportionately, you know, immigrants who, who. Tony blair flooded the flooded, you know, they are from Eastern Europe in in the first place. Its a, its a its an inexhaustible supply of votes for labour i agree. So thats why. And you know, they would never admit that. But thats the truth isnt it . I was really pleased that the Prime Minister in his press conference yesterday, which i actually think he was quite effective, highlighted that the biggest increase in the number of migrants coming to this country are from vietnam. Can somebody explain to me what war is raging in vietnam, what conflict is raging in vietnam . Its quite a nasty place in terms of human rights. I mean, its very low key, but i wouldnt want to live there. But but theyre not theyre not running away from strife, are they . I mean, its not like its not like afghanistan , where its not like afghanistan, where theres been war and the taliban are persecuting women. Its different. Yeah and its a ten fold increase. I would say that that was definitely an economic migration more than anything else. But every time, sarah, we else. But every time, sarah, we see the boat come in, it looks like economic migration. Young men in their 30s or 20s or youngen men in their 30s or 20s or younger, and theyre economic migrants. Where are the women and kids exactly. So i think that what were trying to do here is distinguish between people who are coming here to make it, you know, for economic reasons and people who are coming here for, for sort of refugee reasons. And thats what thats what labour wont do. Yeah. What do you think about hugh huw edwards finally got hugh grant. Sorry. Sorry. Freudian slip. Freudian slip. Freudian slip. Freudian slip. Freudian slip. Well, was it he had 1 or 2 of his own issues back in the 90s. It was. This was about time, wasnt it, sarah, that he had to be. I dont see what else could have happened. I mean, its such a such a spectacular fall from grace, do you think hes jumped or been pushed . Sorry. Other thing. Do you think hes been pushed, or do you think he did resign for medical reasons . I think no , i think they i think no, i think they probably just got rid of 55 word statement from the bbc. There was no praise, no thank you for your glorious service. I mean, he was not loved at the bbc by by sort of, you know, people on the ground, you know, staff, people who work, you know, kind of in the studios and stuff like that. He wasnt he wasnt i dont think he was very loved. I mean, i had know a few people who do those sorts of jobs and none of them really had an awful lot. Its a shocking slap in the face, isnt it, for licence payers that they see this guy. Hes been off work since last july on full pay. A guy whos already rich and the bbc are saying he wont get a pay off, but of course hes on a massive pension and we dont know what his contract is. The thing is, is that he, you know, it was it was the whole Mental Health thing. And the bbc really had their hands tied because if somebody says that they are having their nervous breakdown, its just not okay in this day and age to just jettison them, im afraid. But is this extraordinary . So when you think he did so well, the boy from a pretty working class welsh background went to cardiff university, flourished in the bbc, which is dominated by oxbridge and private education. And he got to the very top he was being. He was the new david dimbleby. And yet it all fell apart. I think its his misjudgement. I think its a sort of very i think its a thing that happens to characters like that, personalities like that, who are very, very driven, you know, and i think that theres a sort of element of, well, you know, i dont deserve to be here. Theres all sorts of weird sort of psychosis that comes with being that sort of person. And i being that sort of person. And i think in such a reckless way, people do self sabotage. Its a well understood psychological behaviour, isnt it, when theyre very successful. I mean, theyre very successful. I mean, you know, if you see it with politicians, you know, who do things well, you do crazy. Increasingly , weeks mark increasingly, weeks mark menzies really insane things that you think why would any normal person do that . But its to do with the pressure. I think of the position. Yeah. Its interesting. I was going to say the family of the person who made the complaint, which led to all of this. Theyre furious because they want they say there are lots of Unanswered Questions that they reckon edwards has got away scot free. They want to know, did he take part in the inquiry , you know, part in the inquiry, you know, did he answer the questions that they wanted answered . So they have been left with nothing. We should remind people what he was doing. He was exchanged. He was paying for explicit 35 grand a period of three years of this person, young person who was who was aged no over age. So there was no law. No law was broken. And this person is allegedly had issues with drugs, which was why the family was so concerned. They went to the bbc to complain. So what are you to complain. So what are you doing about it . The bbc did nothing, so they went to the person was doing this in order to get money to pay for drugs. And thats what the family believe. And 35,000 is a lot of money and a lot of drugs. And its a terrible mess, isnt it . Well, i mean, i just, you know, like, why would you pay for pictures . I dont it is a bizarre thing, isnt it, that stuff at all. And why would you think you wouldnt get caught. Yes. One of the most famous faces in britain, huw edwards. But i think its a complex, you know, sort of thing. I think theres a lot going on there psychologically, isnt there . Well , there is for you to well, there is for you to jeopardise your career like that. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, yeah. But but i mean we were looking at talking yesterday about one of the mps mark menzies , whos stepping down. Menzies, whos stepping down. Ten tory mps have had the whip withdrawn, been suspended by since rishi sunak became leader. Since rishi sunak became leader. Yeah. What is the matter with that. But its not a new thing. But its not a new thing. I mean one of them watching porn in the commons chamber. Remember that tractor porn. I mean, what possessed him . Mean, what possessed him . He did say that. He did say that. That was he just pressed the wrong button. Yeah, so he did. Thats right. I mean, i dont know, dont think ive ever pressed a button and found i dont even know what tractor porn is, by the way. I dont really know what tractor porters. Well, he had a rural seat and he was talking about, i mean, i think there were women mps within feet of him seeing what he was. I mean, im prepared to accept that he might have just pressed the wrong button because you get these awful ads that pop up on your. But then the other mp rag, who shares an image of his nude body with a stranger he met on a gay dating and then tractor even and then gives away the numbers of dozens of others. I mean, that is whats possessed, but i dont understand. If youre an mp. Im sorry. I know youre gay, but i mean, if youre an mp, what are you doing on a gay dating app . Well, i quite im sorry. Well, i quite im sorry. Why are you doing that . Because i mean grindr as well, which, i mean, i dont know if the listeners know what grindr is, but its basically its basically. Hello . Im in the next room. Would you like to have sex with me in the loo . Yeah. The good thing, sarah, is because pierce, as you know, because you know him very well, hes hopeless with technology, so he could never get on. And ive never been. And ive never been. Ive never been. Im very happy. Ive never been. Im very happy i ive never been. Im very happy. I cant even. Im in a very good. Ive never been on a dating app ive never been on a dating app in my life. Have you seen him . Hes on tiktok. Well, have you seen it . Well, have you seen it . You should look at him on tiktok. Listen, this will end his career. Im telling you, hes very. No, i have to have people. No, i have to have people. Its like having your granddad on tiktok, and im going. Hello, im Andrew Pierce, im on tiktok, im going on instagram. Are you . Yes. Good luck. It was hilarious. Good luck. It was hilarious. Good luck. Shes jealous. Shes jealous because she doesnt know how to do it. Ive been doing instagram for years. We just want to ask you a question before we let you go. Her age. Theres a report come out of germany that in germany, now that people think youre not old until youre 75. I know this is a huge relief to me. Yeah, certainly a huge relief to me. Im very happy and joyful about this situation. I dont know angels, they always say age is a number. Its a bit of a cliche, but i had a message from someone the other day saying, im a great admirer of your energy levels. For somebody whos so elderly. They thought they were paying me a complex. And yesterday on the tube, somebody offered me a seat on the tube and i said, youre going to have to start dyeing your hair again. And i said, thank you very much. I said, thank you very much. But im going to stand. But thats very gracious. Are you sure . See, he goes on about my age, sarah, that just no one offers me seats on tray. Well, you never go on the tube. Thats true. Thats true. She never does. She never does. Im not elderly, by the way. Thank you. Youre so. youre so. Not by german standards, not by german standards. No. No. Not now. Up next. Dont go anywhere because were going to be joined by the leader of reform uk, richard tice, who still thinks rishis. He thinks rishi is a socialist, by the way, and he also thinks the rwanda policy is for the birds. Youre with britains newsroom on gb news. So lets return to our top story. After five months of deadlock, the rwanda bill has finally passed through parliament. Rishi sunak has said the first flights will leave by july. But how likely is that . But how likely is that . Michael tomlinson . Hes a minister for illegal migration. Oozing confidence this morning. Last night was a momentous occasion. We were told that the bill would never pass , that wed bill would never pass, that wed never get it through, and the Prime Minister was determined to ensure that we got the bill through. And we did that last night. And heres the shadow home secretary, Yvette Cooper, with her reaction, the problem with her reaction, the problem with the scheme. And bear in mind, this is there was announced two years ago, they told us they were implementing this two years ago, and they have just kept writing checks to rwanda. So with every checks to rwanda. So with every step along the way, they simply write more checks. The first thing that theyre going to do now that this latest piece of legislation has been passed. And bearin legislation has been passed. And bear in mind, this is the third conservative law on Channel Crossings in the last two years. But the first thing theyre going to now do is write another £50 million check for rwanda. £50 million check for rwanda. Well, with us in the studio now, we have leader of reform uk , richard tice, who doesnt think rishi sunak is the man to stop the boats. Why is that . You stop the boats. Why is that . You dont think its going to be . No, because weve seen it, havent we . This year already some 6500 have crossed the channel this year. And tragically, when he talks about it being a deterrent, we hear the tragic news this morning that another five people, including a very young child, has died in the channel this morning. I believe thats 14 so far this year. Thats not because of his policy. Because we havent. Its policy. Because we havent. Its absolutely no, we havent got the policy exactly that. Weve known for two years that this was supposedly going to be a deterrent. And yet they are still taking this perilous journey. More people are dying because its not a deterrent, because its not a deterrent, because they know. They know even richard carroll, not an operational policy yet, but in theory, anybody can be returned right. Anybody can be returned right. Who is currently be sent to rwanda, whos currently coming across. Theyre not they know that the prospect of it is so remote that its not a deterrent. This whole thing is flawed. So heres whats going to happen, right . Because they know its not a deterrent. The migrants know its not a deterrent. So many people here know its not going to be a deterrent. Whats sunak is going to do . This is going to determine his whole election strategy. We are now preparing for a general election on thursday, the 27th of june. Really . Or or the 4th of july . Ill tell you why. Hang on. Lets go on. Because if he lets these flights take off and im right that the boats keep coming because its not a deterrent, all of a sudden, these hundreds of millions are wasted. All these years are wasted. Weve got over 100,000 people. So his whole strategy , if it does. But what if it does deter them . No, we know it wont deter them. We dont know that. We do know that because people are dying, people are literally dying today. The law passed last night. The law passed last night. It hasnt started yet, but the whole point of all of these people supposedly, who are coming across now could be moved to rwanda. Theyre not they know its not going to happen. Its not a deterrent. People are dying. So heres where see, he cant take that risk. So hes going to advance it. And that is absolutely clear to us. Thats why were saying get ready for a for a summer election. And john hang on. Let me ask you this richard tice. You will fear that because youre not not at all. Youre not ready. Your party. Be ready. Do you have candidates in every parliamentary constituency, every single seats, every single one. What about the ones . What about the ones . What about the ones youve had to kick out because they were weird . How many more people applying . What about the ones youve had to kick out of the tory party . Sexual weirdos. Sexual weirdos. Come on. No, lets talk about party sexual weirdos. Is that what you want to talk about . Not my weirdo. Not my party, by the way. But, you know, youve got to kick out quite a lot of people. Youre not ready. Youre not ready yet. Have you got the money ready . Have you got the money ready . Have you got the money ready . Have you got the money . Weve got the candidates. Weve got the money. How much money have you got . Ive got weve got enough money to run a good Election Campaign members, have you got to knock on more money coming in. Never told us how many members youve got, how many members. And why should i . And why should i . Because look, what we say is growing up, we know how many lib dems the membership is growing rapidly. And weve got you never tell us how many because its true. How many . How many. How many . How many. Were standing 630 candidates across england, scotland and wales. Okay. How many seats you think . Well, the more people who vote for us, the more well get. I mean, you must have an i have got a good fortune teller in our party, but im not a fortune teller, so i cant make prediction. But this would be. But this could be a powerful message on the doorstep. Were the only party with a policy to turn back the boats. Labour dont have one. Theyre just going to say, oh, well get to grips with the gang. Oh, labours can you say labours going to do is try and deal with the people smugglers. That wont make any difference in the same way, if you take a drug dealer off the corner of a street, hes replaced by another drug dealer, so that wont stop the boats. Sunak not stopping the boats. The only kind, compassionate policy is pick up take back. They should be doing that now and people will stop dying. Thats why our policy is the only policy that could do that how. Now. They would. Yes we can do that because were legally entitled because they havent got the leadership and the guts and to do it. And the courage to do it. Tony abbott in tony abbott did it in australia. Pushed back. He australia. He pushed back. He got load of flak from the got a load of flak from the lefty lawyers and the international institutions. Would to leave but he would have to leave the echr no you dont, carol. You just have to do what youre entitled to do. Under the United Nations convention on the law of the sea, 1982, ive read the treaty. I know how it works. If the election is in june or july, what role does nigel farage play for reform uk . A very good question. Well, thats why i mean, you know hes got to make a decision rapidly. What is the more the merrier is what i keep saying to everybody. The more the merrier. What is the more the merrier. What is the job youve just highlighted. Its a big job. I do absolutely its a big job. I do absolutely i do not know. Funny enough, i do not know. Funny enough, i do not know. Youre going to be the first to find out. Come on, come on. We want to hear it. We want to hear it. To be fair, nigel doesnt know he was here yesterday. He said he doesnt know. He said he doesnt know. I think hes going to be spending quite a lot of time in the United States with his mate, donald trump. Well, lets wait and see. But you see, if its a summer election, then maybe he could do both, right, very interesting. Well, theres richard tice there. Were going to have a summer election, actually. Lets just get on with it. You said it would have to be declared in two weeks. Time to hit the 27th of june. It would have to be declared by. Yes, by sort of mid may. Or it could be 5th of july. Or it could be 5th of july. Or it could be it could be the thursday, the 4th of july. And you really claim youre ready for. Absolutely. Were ready. Bring it on. Were ready. Bring it on. Weve done that. Hes saying hes a robust richard tice who claims hes got the money. The members who wont tell me how many members hes got or who the money is from. But there we are. Thats his commitment. This is britains newsroom. Alex has got your weather a brighter outlook with boxt solar sponsors of weather on. Gb news. Of weather on. Gb news. Hello. Very good morning to you. Heres your latest gb news weather update brought to you by the met office. Many of us will the met office. Many of us will see some decent sunshine today, although in the southeast here there is quite a bit of cloud and also some drizzly rain. This and also some drizzly rain. This pushing in across eastern parts of england this morning. Feeding into parts of east anglia and towards london and kent. As we head towards the afternoon, some showery outbreaks across parts of the southwest. Otherwise lots of the southwest. Otherwise lots of the southwest. 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So up next were going to be talking china and spies with former leader of the tory party in duncan smith. Now, after a parliamentary researcher was oh, sorry, i messed that up. This was all after a parliamentary researcher was arrested for allegedly being a chinese spy very young guy. And him and another young guy have been arrested. This is britains newsroom its 10 am. On tuesday, the 23rd of april. This is britains newsroom on gb news with Andrew Pierce and me. Karen millom. Well, victory for rishi. His rwanda bill at last has passed through parliament. But will those flights ever get off the ground, because of course, he hopes to get them by july. And happy Saint Georges day. Red crosses will fly high as crowds gather across england today to celebrate their patron saint. Well be live from a knees up in dartford. Yes, were here in dartford to celebrate Saint Georges day, where the community is really getting into the spirit of it all here today. Starting off in the boozer like you do and then heading out onto the street a little bit later on. Yes, at lunchtime were going to see a parade of 700 schoolchildren come through dartford high street. Well bnng dartford high street. Well bring you all the latest here. And our chinese spies are threat to the United Kingdom. Threat to the United Kingdom. Police have charged a parliamentary researcher with espionage. How serious is the threat . Trump on trial. The trump on trial. The president , porn star and the payments. Donald trumps hush money trial against Stormy Daniels begins with allegations he tried to corrupt the 2016 election. Im glad were celebrating Saint Georges day. Well, its interesting, but he never came to england. I know he didnt. I know he didnt. I know he didnt. I know he was turkish. I know he was turkish. Yeah, exactly. Yeah, exactly. Yeah, exactly. And did he slay a dragon . And did he slay a dragon . No. No. Probably not. No. Died in palestine. But still. We need a patron saint. They go mad about Saint Patricks day. They go mad about patricks day. They go mad about Saint Andrews day in scotland, Saint Andrews day in scotland, saint davids day in wales. So lets lets get behind it. And gb news is. What do you think . Gb news is. What do you think . Send your views and your posts and your comments by visiting gb news. Com forward slash your save. But first, heres your news with sophia wenzler. Thanks, andrew. Good morning. Its 10 01. Im thanks, andrew. Good morning. Its10 01. Im sophia wenzler in the gb newsroom. We start in the gb newsroom. We start with some breaking news. At least five migrants have died after their small boat got into difficulties off the french coast overnight. The incident happened off wimereux beach near boulogne, before 2 am. A number of other migrants were rescued, with at least one now critically ill in hospital. Gb news can ill in hospital. Gb news can reveal that another five small migrant boats are attempting to make the crossing from france. Make the crossing from france. One of the boats left a beach near calais at first light this morning, and is currently being escorted by a French Border force vessel. Shadow home secretary Yvette Cooper says it shows we need urgent action to tackle small boat arrivals, shows how dangerous these boat crossings are. They put lives at risk and they are undermining our Border Security and criminal gangs are making huge profits from these dangerous boats, and from putting lives at risk in this way. And thats why we urgently need proper action to tackle these dangerous boat crossings. These dangerous boat crossings. This mornings incident in the channel comes just hours after the governments flagship rwanda bill finally passed through parliament. The Prime Minister called it a landmark law promising that nothing will stand in the way of flights getting off the ground. The bill designates rwanda as a safe country, allowing the government to deport Asylum Seekers there. Illegal migration minister Michael Tomlinson says its an important moment, keen to see things happening as as soon as possible. The Prime Minister set out and made it very clear that its going to take 10 to 12 weeks for the first flight to actually take off and to get off the ground. But youre right, last ground. But youre right, last night was a momentous occasion. We were told that the bill would never pass, that wed never get it through, and the Prime Minister was determined to ensure that we got the bill through. And we did that last night. And shortly after midnight, i found myself standing at the bar of the house of lords and listening to the final speeches there, where they confirmed that the bill was actually going to go through. Its a landmark moment and an important moment for this rwanda scheme. Meanwhile, the home secretary is echoing those comments as he prepares to discuss illegal migration with his italian counterpart. Counterpart. Today is a landmark moment in our plan to stop the boats the safety of rwanda bill has, James Cleverly says italy is one of britains most crucial partners in tackling the shared challenge. As he prepares to discuss efforts to stem illegal arrivals from north africa, hell visit the italian coastguard headquarters in rome and hell become britains first government minister to visit lampedusa , where around 110,000 lampedusa, where around 110,000 migrants landed last year. Lampedusa, where around 110,000 migrants landed last year. The migrants landed last year. The Prime Minister will announce britains largest ever package of aid for ukraine as he travels to berlin and warsaw. The £500 to berlin and warsaw. The £500 million pledge comes as the Prime Minister warns that Vladimir Putin will not stop at the polish border if his assault on ukraine is not stopped. He says the funding is part of a Central Defence for britain and all of europe against the russian president s brutal ambitions. The funds will cover new weaponry, which will be delivered as quickly as possible in response to specific requests from ukraines government. In response to specific requests from ukraines government. In the us, donald trump will appear in court on day two of the first criminal trial of a former us president , the court has already heard. Prosecutors claim that the former president orchestrated a criminal conspiracy to corrupt the 2016 election. They also allege that payments made to an adult film star, so called hush money, were in breach of the law. Donald trump denies any wrongdoing. The case could complicate mr trumps path to an election rematch against president biden. But former Nevada Republican chairwoman Amy Tarkanian says it wont hamper his campaign. He still campaigning . You Better Believe it. And even though he has a gag order, which he has a tough time following, he has a tough time following, he , from what i understand, he, from what i understand, behaved today inside the courtroom. But as soon as he courtroom. But as soon as he stepped outside the courtroom, he had addressed to the media and continued to open his mouth and continued to open his mouth and complain once again. And complain once again. And britains roads are in a miserable state of disrepair amid a surge in pothole related breakdowns. Thats according to the rac. The companys head of policy , simon williams, says new policy, simon williams, says new figures suggest vehicle breakdowns rose by 9 in the last year due to a large number of potholes. The insurer says its to led more than 27,000 call outs to breakdowns in the year to the end of march. That compares to just under 25,000 in the year before. The cost of fixing the problem across england. Wales is estimated at more than £16 billion. And for the latest stories , sign up to the latest stories, sign up to gb news alerts by scanning the qr code on your screen, or go to gb news. Com alerts. Now its back to andrew and. Carol. Back to andrew and. Carol. Its 1006 with britains newsroom in gb news with Andrew Pierce and carole malone. Well, ever since 2022, when priti patel was home secretary first signed, the deal weve all heard is rwanda this, rwanda that. But after months of deadlock, the bill to deport Asylum Seekers has finally passed through parliament in the early hours of this morning. Parliament in the early hours of this morning. Rishi sunak has this morning. Rishi sunak has said the first flights will leave by july, but how likely is that . Yvette cooper seemed doubtful when she spoke with gb news this morning. The problem with the scheme, and bear in mind this is those announced two years ago. They told us they were implementing this two years ago and they have just kept writing checks to rwanda. So with every step along the way, they simply write more checks. The first thing that theyre going to do now that this latest piece of legislation has been passed and bear in mind, this is the third conservative law on Channel Crossings in the last two years. But the first thing theyre going to now do is write another £50 million, check for rwanda. £50 million, check for rwanda. Okay. Lets talk to gb news Political Editor now, christopher hope. Chris. Hi hi, hi. Hi, carol. Hi, andrew. Hi, carol. Hi, andrew. Its good to see you. Tell us, tell us your thoughts on whats happening with rwanda. Whats happening with rwanda. Well, yeah, we finally got there, as you say. And goes back to priti patel. As andrew was saying there when this first idea came about, we heard emergency legislation from the Prime Minister back in november. But then oddly, it just took nearly five months to get through parliament, far slower than , say, emergency terror than, say, emergency terror legislation. There was a gap before easter in parliament. They could have forced it all through. Then a month ago that didnt happen. But finally we got there. We are expecting king charles to sign off the safety of rwanda bill later today. Of rwanda bill later today. Royal assent means it becomes an act. And then the clock starts ticking on the first flights, taking off 10 to 12 weeks. Were told by the Prime Minister yesterday. Thats because each one must be tested in court. Individual claims can say its not fair or unfair. My human rights if i go to rwanda, so well wait and see how it how it plays out. The pm has made very clear that nothing now should stop these flights taking off. And he wants a regular drumbeat, a regular rhythm of flights taking off. He wants you and i not to be discussing it on tv at the top of the hour, on gb news every hour as we are doing, he wants it to be a regular thing, several hundred taking off each week to make it harder and harder for to labour act the scheme if they win power. The problem hes got is the clock is ticking on the next general election, probably in november, and labour say they will act a scheme, even if it works. Scheme, even if it works. Although, interestingly, today on gb news, Yvette Cooper said that they would look at other or if they worked other other offshoring processing schemes. So theyre not averse to the idea , but just not rwanda. Idea, but just not rwanda. Chris, we just had richard tice on on the programme and you just said there now you thought the election might be in november. He is convinced its going to be called in the next two weeks. What do you think . Listen, im on tv. I cant be too firm on this, but i think i think almost certainly not. I wont say ill eat my hat, but i find that i find that almost unbelievable. If you listen to what the pm said yesterday and andrew and carol, he said he wants a regular rhythm of flights taking off from july. Flights taking off from july. Why would he call the election in two weeks and risk losing the entire scheme altogether, mps are not saying mps. Last night i was with saying that if he calls an election imminently, therell be an immediate vote of no confidence in the pm. Rishi sunak they want someone. Two of them said they want six months more pay for him because they fear losing their seats. I mean, why why . Well seriously, i think thered be a revolution. The tory party were the pm to go for an early election, and it makes no sense to me when youve got the opportunity of a second budget in september , when they budget in september, when they can cut taxes, they can wait. I mean, why go now . Why go early and then go to go to a catastrophic defeat . He explained it, didnt he . He explained it, didnt he . Five points behind when you can wait. Can wait. All right chris lets thank. So thats chris. Weve got dame Andrew Jenkins here. Experienced senior mp former sir andrew you you support the rwanda bill. Are you support the rwanda bill. Are you relieved its finally got through. Well i, i didnt vote for it last night. If you remember i was i remember 12 rebels. Yeah. And i didnt support it last night because i cant be a hypocrite because this gets watered down further. So i abstained because its not tough enough for you, is it . Oh, gosh. No. Exactly and. And i think Robert Jenrick abstained as well on this. What would you want . How would you have toughened it . Would you have toughened it . Well, right at the beginning we said weve got to come out of the echr yeah. I mean, as ive said on, could they not just ignore andrew, could they . Not if the echr we try and get the fly out in the air and say, no, no, no, you cant go, he can just ignore it. He can in a short time, he can in the short term. But i think we do need to just come out of it, i mean, the lefty lawyers are going to be on steroids. Oh, stop. Yeah, i know, well , i was yeah, i know, well, i was just going to say. Do you think the bill as it is, is robust enough to stop the legal challenges or not, i mean, look, we got it checked over, didnt we . This is why, as rebels, rebelled in the first place, and it got watered down further through the lords. Now, im pleased its gone through and youve got to admit, the last few days, and few weeks , last few days, and few weeks, the Prime Ministers rhetoric has been a lot stronger on has. My god, why didnt he do this a year ago . Yeah, absolutely. And i did meet with him personally , and to meet with him personally, and to say, to speak about rwanda and he just seem a lot more committed and determined this time. He to say he. No, he says hes i was pleasantly surprised. Hes i was pleasantly surprised. He sees me. Hes got caught waiting. Hes got hes anticipating the challenge. Yeah. Yeah. But bearing in mind that that he has talked tougher, why didnt you then in the end put your yes peg on your nose and think ill back it. Why . Because i cant be a hypocrite. You know, im one of these. Im very black and white. And i voted against it in the first place and came out quite strong on that. Its watered down. I couldnt go against my own. Do you think its going to work in its current form as deterrent . Well , i deterrent . Well, i mean, i dont know what else have they got . What else have they got . I hope it works. I pray it works because we need to stop the boats coming over and send a statement. This is going to be the tenet of this whole election battle. Now, isnt it, that hes put this right at the heart of his Election Campaign . I think so, and what you said about richard tice saying the election, id be very surprised. Yeah. I election, id be very surprised. Yeah. I mean, you know, ive beenin yeah. I mean, you know, ive been in parliament, yesterday, etc. And, and were not hearing that whatsoever. No, his theory is that because he thinks twice, his view is the boats wont work, it wont stop the migrants crossing the channel. So just go into the election saying , the channel. So just go into the election saying, im the channel. So just go into the election saying , im the the channel. So just go into the election saying, im the only one with a plan to stop the migrants. Labour are opposed to it , will migrants. Labour are opposed to it, will repeal it. So that will be the election be fought in it. But the election wont be won on foot, on the boats. Election one foot, on the boats. Election one and four on cost of living cost nhs and freedom of speech. Yeah, of course, a two tier policing system. Yeah, yeah. I think the Prime Minister needs a six months to actually set out his stall. And as, christopher said about getting another budget coming through. Yeah, yeah. Lets talk about Saint Georges day because you. Im delighted youve come out all guns blazing, i always do. I know patriotic town, even though saint george, as you know, is from turkey , is from turkey. I know, and never has slayed a dragon as far as we knew. No. Yeah. No. No. Yeah. No. But why is it important that we celebrate it, andrea . Well, you know, i mean, the welsh celebrate. They do, you welsh celebrate. They do, you know, the irish celebrate, the scots celebrate and we dont do enough of it in this, i agree. The thing is, its regarded now, isnt it . If youre patriotic, its regarded as racist. Now or nationalistic. And lets look at the labour party. Yeah look at emily thornberry. Look at some of their councillors. Remember their councillors. Remember thornberry, i know in 2014 she mocked the, the guy who had the flag of saint george outside their house when england were playing a football match. Absolutely. And shes now in the shadow cabinet. I know exactly. And so i know exactly. And so i think that, you know, the arch europhile , which is keir starmer europhile, which is keir starmer to suddenly be mr saint george. Its so disingenuous. I know hes put a hes put a film out today. Hes almost draped himself in the flag of can we just read out andreas tweet here this morning . You werent right in there. She says. People stay through your fake patriotism. Mr flip flop keir starmer. But the red wall will not forget how you tried to stop brexit, or how some of your mps and councillors have looked down on those who celebrate saint george and all thatis celebrate saint george and all that is english. I think he read that is english. I think he read that and then put that film out because that film was not on social media. Yeah. Yeah. It wasnt, it wasnt interesting on brexit because you mentioned that, i was shocked to read in one of the polls last week ashcrofts poll, lord ashcrofts poll, andrew, the tories are not even trusted on brexit anymore. Labour party are trusted. More on brexit than are trusted. More on brexit than the tories. Even though sir keir starmer was the architect of the second referendum plan as as corbyn standing against me, he stood in harrogate and wanted a second referendum in a brexit seat. Yeah, yeah, but but how did the tories lose the faith and the tories lose the faith and the trust of the people on an issue . I mean, i think we need a major cabinet reshuffle, get some, you know, some strength in there, some experience, some brexiteers in there, some of them. Andrea are you applying . Youre available. Youre available. Look, im not a person that im too outspoken. I would never get chosen. But we need some get chosen. But we need some real experience in there and set our stall out. Show the conservatives uniting into this election and actually be more conservative. We need to be tough on crime. We need to be low tax, small state conservatives kerb the spending and we cant have this two tier. But why . Why do people trust starmer on on brexit . He has already said he would be thinking about looking into taking us back into the single market, and he said it was last yeah he market, and he said it was last year. He said that were not taking our fair share of migrants and he would put that right. I mean, i mean, its it would be open all hours. Yes. I think that people are just frustrated and Peter Faulding politicians. And i mean, i dont get the appetite actually for labour on the doorstep. I get a third conservative, third laboun third conservative, third labour, and its the rest. You know the well that undecided. Well that poll actually last week did say that 40 even though that labour were miles ahead, 45 of them said we dont want him. Theres no stone with him. Can i ask , do you think the can i ask, do you think the Prime Minister should have said called in . The metropolitan Police Commission said, im sorry, mate, youve had a chance to sort this policing out in in the worlds most capital city. What happened to gideon falter was appalling. And hes. And he hasnt even met with him. So he hasnt even met with him. So he hasnt even met with him. So he hasnt even met with gideon falter. Should he be out of falter. Should he be out of a job, i think completely. But i want to see carnell. Dont you . Want to see carnell. Dont you . Its another matter. Its another matter. But its interesting that that that we hear this morning that that we hear this morning that rowley is actually supporting the officer who said that , who supporting the officer who said that, who said to supporting the officer who said that , who said to the gentleman, that, who said to the gentleman, youre getting involved. Youre openly jewish. So i mean, thats you know, hes hes already people because ive come out in support of israel because i dont forget what happened in october. You know, women and men have pred you know, women and men have ripped out their stomach. Its barbaric. And still many hostages. Andrea in gaza. I mean, look at the awful email i got , i mean, look at the awful email i got, which was pro hamas a few weeks ago, and peoples graffitied, you know, one of my signs on my office from the rivers to the seas, have they really disgusting . Absolutely pro palestine. These people need locking up, im afraid. Yeah. And what do you stop the marches, i would wait for six months. Yeah. Yeah. Really, really angry. Last wednesday, Parliament Square, for white vans, stopped on Parliament Square and all these pro palestinian lobby jumped out. They had all this equipment, they stopped the traffic at peak 5 00 peak time. And the police just stood around. Im sorry, but we should not allow any kind of march where it stops people going about their everyday lives. I think theyre doing that. They must have been told from the top to do that. Andrea. Thats thats the point. Completely. Anyway, thank you very much, andrea. Happy Saint Georges day. Happy Saint Georges day. Yes, still to come, met police chief mark rowley praises the conduct of his Police Officers amidst the anti semitism row. This is britains newsom on. Gb news. Britains newsom on. Gb news. However 1022 is britains news and gb news Andrew Pierce. And lots of news Andrew Pierce. And lots of people getting in touch about Saint Georges day. Very glad about that. Were getting a telling off. Tony says im sick of people saying saint george is not english. He was a saint. Hes a patron saint. He doesnt have to be english, just like Saint Patrick was not irish or Saint Andrews scottish. Its andrews scottish. Its a religion thing. Sorry, sorry, tony allison says we most definitely celebrate Saint Georges day. We need to be able to have some pride and be around and pride and be proud of being engush and pride and be proud of being english anyway, mark says. Why english anyway, mark says. Why the french are stopping the boats being launched . Answer they want them to leave france and we pay them to do it. Its got a point. Its got a point. There is a point. And weve got the panel with us. Nigel nelson, our chief political commentator and lord colville rangen commentator and lord colville ranger. You had a late night last night. I ranger. You had a late night last night. I did have a late night because their lordships finally said yayi was it 1215 . It was. It was 1215, look, quite rightly , weve been through rightly, weve been through a process on this, but i think it had got to a point where youre continuing to or rather the opposition, the labour benches and the crossbenchers and the cross bench peers were asking the same question. Yes. And theres a definition there, the sign of madness. You keep asking and saying, expecting a different result. So weve done different result. So weve done now the legislative process. Now the legislative process. Yeah, the bill goes through, but im not sure what was trying to be achieved last night. The posturing, as you say andrew. Yeah, thats what it was. Yeah, thats what it was. The arguments had been had over the last two years. Yeah. This is this legislation going to stop the boats. Do you think it is a deterrent . Its part of the process to stop these boats. We all want to stop these boats. We want to see the horrible gangs dismantle , and we dont want dismantle, and we dont want them to be incentivised to come through that illegal means. And this acts as a deterrent. This this acts as a deterrent. This proof Home Office Research has looked at this. Ive read the papers. Ive looked at the papers. Ive looked at the examples, the questions that are raised. It is posturing. We have all the answers as to what this will do. So why were they messing around then . Five times . Why has it taken this to long pass . If they knew the answers and if they knew the answers and if they knew the answers and if they knew it was going to be deterrent . I think, carol, you know, you know as well as i do that this is the opposition trying to obfuscate the Prime Minister, the government, the will of the government flagship on his flagship policy. Hes committed to and trying to generate some Political Capital by by damaging the Prime Minister. Now, youre very well plugged into the labour party. There were sort of posturing and virtue signalling because, as covid said, it was always going to go through. This has taken to go through. This has taken five months. We saw five migrants have died this morning. Yeah perhaps if these planes had beenin yeah perhaps if these planes had been in the air, if the policy works that boat would never have set off. Well, i think thats pretty unlikely. I mean, thats the you dont know though. No, but where we are with this, i, im not sure which Home Office Document that calvi has been reading , but that calvi has been reading, but the Impact Assessment and the illegal migration bill that found no evidence that this measure would stop the boats, that was the reason that the most senior Civil Servant of the home office, matthew rycroft, wouldnt sign it off as value for money. So with no evidence , for money. So with no evidence, you designed a policy thats going to cost half £1 billion, and thats not the way you design policy. When you do that, you have some kind of evidence that this policy will work. As that this policy will work. As far as last night went, you were deaung far as last night went, you were dealing with crossbenchers. I dealing with crossbenchers. I mean, bear in mind there are 100 more tory peers than there are labour peers. So it was a simple battle between the two parties. The tories would have won some of those crossbench peers dont seem terribly independent to me. Nigel, if you look at their voting record, they consistently and covid is in the lords a lot vote with the labour party and the lib dems to stop the tories and you know that. Well i mean but but as a crossbench peer thats your independent right isnt it. Yeah but they consistently as do the bishops. But can i start nigel. If, if the labour benches had had said right thats it, were done. We understand the politics of this. The crossbenchers are entitled to their independent opinion, but its the labour benches that are carrying the opposition through to the bill. So thats the. But eventually you came to an agreement, quite rightly, i think last night after five months. Yes. Yes. Well, well hang on. I mean rishi sunak could have speeded the whole thing up by holding these votes earlier. Anyway, i agree he should have held them up three in the morning. Yeah, and it would have done this before easter. Yeah, before easter anyway. But the that , it is quite right. But the that, it is quite right. The lords scrutinise the legislation often it is quite right. They put amendments down which i thought were pretty reasonable and the government should have, should have accepted ultimately the will of the commons must prevail. And thats what happened last night. And thats what labour decided to do. But we kind of know why theyve delayed it for so long, because they think the longer the delay, the tories arent going to be empowered. So rwandas never going to happen and thats why they did it and they hate it anyway. Covid, nigel was implying that youre misleading us about this. Home office. No, look, ive read the reports that look at other countries , how theyve. Countries, how theyve. Australia, the home office have done a lot of research, different. Different. Is it . Is it . Well, whenever you give an example, someone always says, well, thats different, but it is different. It is different. But they have looked at examples all over the world where there has been immigration, illegal immigration challenges and what deterrence work. And this policy looked at those. And thats where they developed this approach. Approach. And there are there are a rwanda style policies operating now in denmark, in austria and germany. Well, hang on. No, no, denmark hasnt done it. Denmark is not doing it. Theyre going to do denmark. Theyre going to do denmark. Theyre going to do denmark. Theyre looking at theyre looking at it. Austria, austria is not doing it. Italy is. Italy is. Denmark has just passed a law to say they can process offshore processing offshore, but they havent gone for the rwanda, rwanda per se. No. I mean, in fact, theyve theyve passed what is effectively their illegal migration bill. So if theyve got somewhere offshore, they will then go and do it. Austria. Germany has just proposed it. Proposed it. Well, i mean, theyve proposed it, but none of this has happened with any country that are doing it and the other countries that did do it. Israel why cant we lead from the front for a change . Good. And i think other countries will reign in. Will they fall in behind us if its successful . Well then look at look at where rwanda has been used by israel and by the un. Yeah, these were completely different systems. The israeli one was a systems. The israeli one was a voluntary scheme to send people there, as is compulsory. The un scheme was an evacuation scheme. Design it to actually get people out of libya and the congo. Out of libya and the congo. And that was what i think, nigel, we can all give example, but i think we have to innovate. This is a problem that many countries are facing around the world. Ive been talking to friends in the states who are telling me about whats happening in new york. 180,000 Illegal Immigrants who are coming in there, and the new yorkers new york state is having challenges about busting the illegal gambling gangs that are funnelling people through south america. This is a fundamental problem that many different parts of the world are facing, and we will have to come up with Solutions Like this and try them. And i dont think saying, well, no ones done it before is the way to go to find a solution i a a one off. For now, lets talk about huw edwards quitting on medical grounds. On medical grounds. Well, i think at the end of the day, weve got to the right result here. Unfortunately, you know, its taken its taken a while, but we cant. July compere my Mental Health, especially when youre a figure like i have a lot of respect for the broadcaster that huw edwards has been for this nation. Yeah, he has been the face of this nation. Whether we have our views on the bbc or not. He was trusted, respected for his background, where he came from. He wasnt part of the establishment. He isnt the point that he became a person who was not trusted. And thats right. He has been on full pay since last july and i think , you know, july and i think, you know, theres a probably a process that an organisation like the bbc has to go through and quite rightly, and sometimes theres a duty of care to him as an individual. Individual. But at the end of the day, he has not received a payoff. It is has not received a payoff. It is for the betterment of his health, but hell be on full pension and who knows when his contract end. But nigel, he had to go, didnt he . Because, you know, this is licence payers money. Yes, i mean, hes at home doing nothing. I think i agree with calvin on this one. This is this is the best possible result in the worst possible situation. So i think it was absolutely right that he that he quits the bbc. He clearly that he didnt have a career left there. However you look at it and yes, youre right. I mean, its one of the primary reasons has got to be if you continue paying your salary as they have been doing , that is as they have been doing, that is licence payers money. And you know, he while hes been off, he had actually had a pay been off, he had actually had a pay rise because of the brilliant way he conducted himself at the queens funeral, ironically so his pay was even increased while he was. Can he increased while he was. Can he ever come back or is this the end for the road for huw edwards well, i mean, who knows . Id have thought its the end. Yeah i guess maybe he could do a documentary about the rise and fall. Yeah, i think theres a lot of you have to look at where people evolve. Nobody is perfect. No, we are nobody is perfect. No, we are human. We will where he couldnt come back in the same kind of role because we know that that particular weight that he was carrying for the nation and the trust he was carrying. But yes, as you say, andrew, maybe Something Else licence payers would say when you to that extent , you shouldnt be extent, you shouldnt be carrying on the voice that told the world her majesty the queen, and he was brilliant at that and that. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. And if you say and he came from a very working class stock in a, in an organisation that is dominated by private school, pubuc dominated by private school, public school, oxbridge types. Okay, youve got it very well. Youve got to go now. Youve got to go now. Thats the panel. Covid and nigel neilson, were going to go to headlines now with sophia wenzler. Andrew thank you. Its 1031. Andrew thank you. Its1031. Im sophia wenzler in the gb newsroom. At least five migrants have died after their small boat got into difficulties off the french coast overnight. The incident happened off wimereux beach near boulogne, before 2 am. A number of other migrants were rescued , with at least one were rescued, with at least one now critically ill in hospital. Gb news can reveal that another five small migrant boats are attempting to make the crossing from france. Shadow home secretary Yvette Cooper says it shows we need urgent action shows we need urgent action shows how dangerous these boat crossings are. They put lives at risk and theyre undermining our Border Security and criminal gangs are making huge profits from these dangerous boats and from putting lives at risk in this way. And thats why we urgently need proper action to tackle these dangerous boat crossings. Dangerous boat crossings. This mornings incident in the channel comes just hours after the governments flagship rwanda bill finally passed through parliament. The Prime Minister called it a landmark law , promising that nothing will law, promising that nothing will stand in the way of flights getting off the ground. The bill designates rwanda as a safe country, allowing the government to deport Asylum Seekers there , to deport Asylum Seekers there, and britains roads are in a miserable state of disrepair. Thats according to the rac. The thats according to the rac. The companys head of policy, simon williams, says breakdowns rose by 9 in the last year due to large numbers of potholes. Its led to more than 27,000 callouts in the year to the end of march. The cost of fixing the problem across england and wales is estimated at more than £16 billion. 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Were now joined by our east midlands reporter, will hollis. Will hi. Are people celebrating their. Are people celebrating their. Good morning. Yes. Well it is Saint Georges day here at the old salutation inn or as local people know it, the old sal day. It is Saint Georges day and there are events happening all over the country, not just here in nottingham, where they are quite proud of having englands biggest england Saint Georges cross flag on the city Council House. Im joined by bu. Cross flag on the city Council House. Im joined by bu. Youre house. Im joined by bu. Youre the chairman of the Royal Society of saint george. Why do you do this event every single year . Well, we do it because basically we love it. We love it. We love being english and we love celebrating it. You know, the more people get involved, then the better. You know, weve had big crowds. Weve had smaller crowds depending on what day of the week it is, but its always a celebration and everyones welcome. In the past in nottingham, youve had big parades, up to 5000 people, maybe a little bit of a smaller affair this year because you dont have a parade. What is it you are going to be doing here at the old sal . And what is it that you are celebrating . Well, i invite anybody whos engush well, i invite anybody whos english and proud to come down and have a look, you know, and see what we do. Weve got a disco on and weve got plenty of beer behind the bar there. You know, the they just had a delivery this morning to top us all up. You know. And we can just just enjoy it. Just everyone enjoy the fun. What we do. Its a party. Youve got flags. Youve got traditional knights slaying the dragon. But why does it matter right now in 2024, that we celebrate Saint Georges day . I think its important that whoever you are. Whatever country you come from, basically to, to dont lose your identity. You know, we are proud to be english, and its as simple as that. And we like celebrating our national day. You know, we dont begrudge anybody celebrating their day. You know, celebrating their day. You know, they can do what they want. You know, it brings colour to the city. Whatever you know. But were just proud to be english and we just love celebrating it. Ive spoken to a lot of people from the Royal Society of saint george, not just here, but in places like leicestershire , in places like leicestershire, across the country, in london. And the thing that they always say to me is that this is non political. You dont have to be from a certain faith or background to be a part of this. Why does that matter in celebrating saint george now . Well its important to anybody. Like you say, its not all about your colour. Your creed, your your religion. If you want to just come down and enjoy us, you know, if people from abroad who come to england just enjoying then to come and see what were all about, this , this what were all about, this, this is a good side of being english. Its not all about a lot of bad things. What, hits the press a lot. You know, these are good things. Yeah. And thank you so much for talking to us today on gb news and happy Saint Georges day. And happy Saint Georges day. Very much. Thats good to see that, isnt it . I think its terrific. I think its terrific. Theres a bit of english eccentricity that work there, but thats great and thats commendable and i like it. I like to see a bit of flag waving. Yeah. And look, i was brought up a catholic boy. Catholic school. We know all the saints days and Saint Georges day , but of Saint Georges day, but of course, in my Catholic School we were very keen on Saint Patricks day because most of the most we all did. We all wore the shamrock, the shamrock and have the party. Itd be a great chunk of shamrock on the boys school and girls school jackets, and we poor old saint george was always overlooked. We need to get behind these guys. I mean, look, theyre all theyre all dressed. Theyve got theyve got knights outfits on and all the rest. Fabulous. Fabulous. Anyway, lets cross to dartford where red crosses will be flying high. Gb news presenter Stephen Dixon and Ellie Costello are there. Hi guys. Whats happening . Is there a party . Good morning to you andrew and carol. Really good to see you both. And happy Saint Georges day to you. We are here in dartford all day for you today , covering all of the today, covering all of the events and the celebrations in kent , which events and the celebrations in kent, which is, of course, events and the celebrations in kent , which is, of course, the kent, which is, of course, the garden of england. And you can see inside this pub here, the union jacks are flying high above this pub. Its been here for 300 years, george. The first was actually on the throne when this pub was built, which i think is very fitting for today. So its the most wonderful setting to be in today. And the high street today looks even better. Saint georges flag is flying high across that high street, and thats where our very own Stephen Dixon is right now. Hows it looking, stephen . Yeah. Thanks, ellie, for sending me out into the cold and drizzle this morning. But drizzle this morning. But everythings gearing up here. Theres a few workmen still out and about, i have to say, at the minute, but this is where the parade is going to be a little bit later on today. As you can see, the flags are everywhere. People are gearing up for a really good celebration as to, marking Saint Georges day in a way that perhaps we havent seen for a long time. And its right that we do celebrate this sort of thing, isnt it . I would say so. And you never guess who youre going to bump into when youre going to bump into when you walk down a high street like this. Walking on this morning. Who did i see . But our very own sports guru for gb news breakfast. Aidan magee. Good morning. Good morning to you. Great to see you. What are you doing here today . What am i doing here . Well, i have a Long Association with this. This town. My mum was born here 80 years ago this yeah born here 80 years ago this year. Back in 1944, she was born up the hill in a road called myrtle place. She later bought that Council House from the council. One of the first early 80s sell offs. If you like. And 80s sell offs. If you like. And then, you know, ive got lots of family here and mums ashes are scattered at watling street cemetery, just up the road. So lots of families still here. And im very proud to have an association with this town, even though i just live about half an hour away from here. Yeah, and when you see Something Like this, does it make you proud to be english . Well, it does actually, because i always felt it was. It was somewhere that had a very close affinity to national identity. What was very national identity. What was very interesting was when i was a kid back in about 83, 84, zola budd, you remember zola budd, the huge south african , athlete who south african, athlete who wasnt allowed to compete in International Competition under the south african flag . Well she was actually she actually ran her first competitive race in britain in this town, danson park , about a mile away from park, about a mile away from here in bare feet. And i think it was quite poignant that she celebrated in a town that was so patriotic , and she was greeted patriotic, and she was greeted by the locals, and it made people sit up and realise that weve got an International Star on our hands. She ran bare feet that night and of course she went on to achieve success at the olympics. Yeah, well, theres nothing wrong with being patriotic. As we stand here. You can see if you just look over here, you can see what they call the glimmer twins. And they. So while since they, they worked as the glimmer twins, Keith Richards and, mick jagger, who are both dartford born and bred actually, so theyre celebrated here, it is a very English Place to be and a great place to for us to celebrate being english. Ellie yeah, its going to be an absolutely packed day, full of events at around lunchtime, loads of School Children , 700, loads of School Children, 700, in fact, from across 24 schools in fact, from across 24 schools in the county. They will be parading behind a large model of saint george and his dragon. And weve been told they have been busy working away in their art classes, making papier mache dragons and shields, and they are going to be parading along dartford high street, where stephen is now at around lunchtime today it will just be the most wonderful sight , fabulous. Well done. And we notice how patriotically you are both dressed. Yes. Red, red white. Stephen, i think that suit probably should have been blue, not grey, but nevertheless he looks quite. It looks great though. He looks great. And ellies divine as usual. And ellies divine as usual. Thank you. Thank you. There we are. Now were back with them later in the program. Coming up next. Britain is now the worlds fourth largest exporter of goods and services. Exporter of goods and services. So we say to those brexit naysayers, you were wrong. Were naysayers, you were wrong. Were going to be speaking to the export minister, lord offord, in just a moment. Youre with britains newsroom on gb news well, heres some good news. Britain has faced a post brexit trade bonanza. As our exports shoot up, we are now the fourth largest exporter in the world. So those naysayers who said brexit was going to be a disaster . Well, weve signed disaster . Well, weve signed trade deals now with 73 countries accounting for 1. 1 trillion in trade since 2022. Were going to talk now to the minister for exports , who is minister for exports, who is lord offord . Lord offord, good morning to you. Now i know you voted for brexit, but you were, by your own admission, a reluctant brexiteer. Perhaps you should have been more enthusiastic when you voted to leave back in 2016. Looking at these trade figures as well. Yes, i was a reluctant brexiteer , but the one, the brexiteer, but the one, the factor that swung it for me was trade was a trade decision. We know that, for example, when our parents voted to join what was then the Common Market in the 70s, europe accounted for one third of global trade. And we third of global trade. And we know that when we left in 2019, that was 16 of global trade. And thats forecast to be 9 of global trade in 2050. So trade is tilting to the indo pacific, to the asia, to latin america. To the asia, to latin america. And all the british people have done has made a savvy business decision to go to where the money is and to trade where the growth is. Growth is. So lord offord, who was ahead of us now, who were the first three top exporters . Three top exporters . Well, the two, the two biggies, obviously us and china. Biggies, obviously us and china. And then theres germany and were now sitting in fourth place, having gone past japan, netherlands and france. And that netherlands and france. And that is a very strong performance. Its in both our services and in our goods. Thats an incredible achievement. You know, those countries are huge, massively big countries as well. We have a very strong export capability we have made in the uk. As my banner says, made in uk. As my banner says, made in scotland sold the world made in Northern Ireland, made in, made in wales. That resonates with people , you know our so our people, you know our so our economy is now 80 services and 20 goods. Okay. In terms of how people work, 80 of our workforce is in services , 20 in workforce is in services, 20 in goods, and the same in our gdp. Goods, and the same in our gdp. But the fact that our exports are 45 goods and 55 services, which tells you that our goods are good and they go around the world and people want to buy them. Just explain as well. Lord balfe what we mean. But what you mean when we talk about services, the financial sector, insurance, that sort of thing, what are the services that were so exporting . So well, okay, so i was recently in chile. So weve just joined this thing called the cptpp, the Trans Pacific partnership. Right, last time i looked at the map, uk wasnt anywhere near the pacific ocean. But weve now got this place in this deal that thats blocked that we could not have had if we were still in the eu. Chile has got the longest coastline in the world. It takes three weeks to drive from top to bottom. Theyve got an amazing opportunity to, to drive Green Hydrogen. Who are the world experts in Green Hydrogen . The brits. So i take 12 companies down to santiago , to chile to down to santiago, to chile to help them build out the Green Hydrogen. Right now they have got they can they will use 20 for themselves and export 80. Its a great Economic Opportunity for chile and our companies are going to help them now. Eight of the 12 companies were service companies, so they are consulting companies. Theyre the architects or the engineers, the designers. And engineers, the designers. And weve got to think more about how we sell services, whether its education, Edtech Services in renewables, it services and railways. We sell consulting services, obviously financial services. So obviously the public, when we think about exports, of course we think about chocolate and whisky and jcb and thats good. Thats still 45 of our of our exports. But we have to think about how our economy works and actually we are now a smart post industrial economy in services, which pays higher wages and which pays higher wages and which is now based all around the uk. But lord, often we keep heanng but lord, often we keep hearing from from the remainers that that brexit isnt working. This is a clear sign that it is. Surely we now have data from 2018, the last good year before all this bad stuff happened in 2023, and we now can say that brexit has had a minimal impact on our trade. The biggest impact has been covid and then the associate and then the war in ukraine and associated inflation, Energy Prices that and Interest Rates going up. And that has been the same in germany , australia and the us. Germany, australia and the us. Okay. So brexit is the least amount of impact. And in fact if you look at our trade and manufacturing goods to the eu, its exactly its traded exactly the same as the rest of the world. So really whats happened is in manufactured goods has been a massive dislocation of world trade. The biggest dislocation since Second World War. Okay. And its happened everywhere. And weve actually everywhere. And weve actually come out of it very well. Much better because weve got a modern service economy. Can i ask you though, there was a poll , can i ask you though, there was a poll, youd have seen it last week. I think it was lord ashcrofts poll. Lord offered, which showed that the tories had fallen behind labour on every single area of policy in terms of public trust , whether its of public trust, whether its defence, law and order. But shockingly, labour now trusted. More on brexit. And yet youre clearly not trumpeting these Success Stories loudly enough. I appreciate youre on with us today, which is great, but why arent why isnt the government shouting from the rafters the successes of brexit . Yes , i mean, ive been in yes, i mean, ive been in this job a year, so yes, i mean, ive been in thisjob a year, so im minister this job a year, so im minister for exports and i have to tell you , it is all i see is a strong you, it is all i see is a strong recovery and good news. And we have to get this message out loud and clear , there is a one loud and clear, there is a one part of our, one part of our pie chart is 24 of our 850 billion of exports, 24 is manufactured goods to the eu, where there has been friction, no doubt. Okay. The other 76 is going gangbusters for some reason the reporting news is all about that 24 manufacturing use of the eu 27. My job is to highlight that yes, thats been difficult, but the other 76 is going very strongly and thats why im on your program today. All right. Lord, were very to good talk to you and very good to have such a good news story. Thats lord offord, who is the minister for exports. And weve moved into fourth place. Weve overtaken japan and france and the us as well. Now the us is still ahead of us. Us. This is britains newsroom on gb news and hes got your weather. A brighter outlook with boxt solar sponsors of weather on. Gb news. Hello there. Welcome to your latest gb news weather update. It should brighten up for many Northern Areas through the rest of the day, but it will remain fairly cloudy in the southeast. Thats because a weather front has been pushing along the southeast through out this morning. Thats bringing the cloudier skies. Its fairly weak feature by the time we get to this afternoon, but it will continue to bring quite a lot of cloud around to many southern areas of england and the southeast. Thats where we could see some drizzly rain, particularly along the coast. Elsewhere, it should stay dry through this afternoon and there will be a good deal of sunshine for north and Western Areas. Northern ireland, western scotland, northwestern wales as well seeing highs of 15 or 16 degrees. So in the sheltered sunshine, not bad at all. But if you are exposed to this northerly wind along the east coast, youre certainly going to nofice coast, youre certainly going to notice a chill in the air and there will be quite a bit more cloud around these areas as we lead into tonight. As well. That cloud will continue to pull in off the north sea, keeping skies a little cloudier all along the east coast. Well continue to see some cloud, mainly across parts of wales, southern england too, but across the north west, clear skies will lead to another very chilly start. We could be very chilly start. We could be down as low as minus four really, so a bit of a patchy frost is expected for Western Areas throughout wednesday. It will be a chilly start but quite a bright start. Therell be more in the way of sunshine. Still, much of the sunshine will be restricted to Western Areas of the country and the far north, while the east still have this onshore wind, bringing in more in the way of cloud and the risk of showers and that chillier feel. So temperatures closer to 8 or 9 in the east and closer to 15 in the west. That warm feeling inside from boxt boilers sponsors of weather on gb news. Weather morning. 11 am. On tuesday, the 23rd of april. This is britains news. When . Gb news with Andrew Pierce thats carol maloney. And victory for rishi as his rwanda bill finally passes through parliament. But will these flights ever get off the ground . Ground . Channel migrant jets. Five migrants die trying to cross the channel this morning, just hours after the rwanda bill passed through parliament and happy Saint Georges day , red crosses Saint Georges day, red crosses will fly high as crowds gather across england to celebrate their patron saint. Well be live from anneliese up in dartford , yes. Good up in dartford, yes. Good morning and happy Saint Georges day. Were here celebrating as the clock is ticking now to the big Saint Georges day parade here in town, where people and lots of children as well are going to be celebrating our patron saint of england. And why not . Yeah, the bunting is flying high outside on the high street, and were expecting 700 children from 24 schools to be parading behind a large model of saint george on his dragon. Its going to be a wonderful sight. Fabulous. And quite right, too. Trump on trial. The president , the porn star and the president , the porn star and the payments. Donald trumps hush money trial against Stormy Daniels begins with allegations he tried to corrupt the 2016 election. Wed love to hear what you think. Send your views and post your comments by visiting gbnews. Com yoursay. But first, heres the news with sophia wenzler. Wenzler. Thanks, carol. Good morning. Its 11 01. Im thanks, carol. Good morning. Its11 01. Im sophia wenzler in the gb newsroom with some more developing news coming from the English Channel. This morning. A child is among five migrants who died after their small boat got into difficulties off the french coast. The off the french coast. The incident happened off wimereux beach near boulogne , before beach near boulogne, before 2 am. A number of other migrants were rescued , with at least one were rescued, with at least one now critically ill in hospital. Gb news can also reveal that another three small boats launched from an area on the site this morning. Shadow home site this morning. Shadow home secretary Yvette Cooper says it shows we need urgent action to tackle small boat arrivals. Tackle small boat arrivals. Shows how dangerous these boat crossings are. They put boat crossings are. They put lives at risk and they are undermining our Border Security. Undermining our Border Security. Vie and criminal gangs are making huge profits from these dangerous boats and from putting lives at risk in this way. And thats why we urgently need proper action to tackle these dangerous boat crossings. Dangerous boat crossings. This mornings incident in the channel comes just hours after the governments flagship rwanda bill finally passed through parliament. The Prime Minister called it a landmark law promising that nothing will stand in the way of flights getting off the ground. The bill getting off the ground. The bill designates rwanda as a safe country, allowing the government to deport Asylum Seekers there. Illegal migration minister Michael Tomlinson says its an important moment. Were keen to see things happening as as soon as possible. The Prime Minister set out and made it very clear that its going to take 10 to 12 weeks for the first flight to actually take off and to get off the ground. But youre right, last night was a momentous occasion. We were told that the bill would never pass, that wed never get it through. And the never get it through. And the Prime Minister was determined to ensure that we got the bill through. And we did that last through. And we did that last night. And shortly after midnight, i found myself standing at the bar of the house of lords and listening to the final speeches there, where they confirmed that the bill was actually going to go through. Its a landmark moment and an important moment for this rwanda scheme. Meanwhile, the home secretary is echoing those comments as he prepares to discuss illegal migration with his italian counterpart. Counterpart. Today is a landmark moment in our plan to stop the boats. The safety of rwanda bill has , james safety of rwanda bill has, James Cleverly says italy is one of britains most crucial partners in tackling the shared challenge. As he prepares to discuss efforts to stem illegal arrivals from north africa. Hell also from north africa. Hell also become britains first government minister to visit lampedusa, where around 110,000 migrants landed last year. Now the Prime Minister will announce britains largest ever package of aid for ukraine as he travels to berlin and warsaw. The £500 to berlin and warsaw. The £500 million pledge comes as the Prime Minister warns that Vladimir Putin will not stop at the polish border if his assault on ukraine is not stopped. He on ukraine is not stopped. He says the funding is essential for the defence of britain and all of europe against the russian president s brutal ambitions. The funds will cover ambitions. The funds will cover new weaponry following a request from ukraines government in the us. Donald trump will appear in court on day two of the first criminal trial of a former us president. The court has already heard prosecutors claim the former president orchestrated a criminal conspiracy to corrupt the 2016 election. 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After that, rwanda bill passed in parliament with a number of boats, were told, that pushed off from a beach at wimereux, which is just north of boulogne. This was in north of boulogne. This was in the early hours of this morning. Now the boats got into difficulty. One is believed to have stranded on a sandbank for a while. It managed to free itself and then at some point the boat capsized. There was some kind of movement on board. There are reports that a young child, a young girl, may have been trampled to death in the panic on board this boat as well, and four others, three men and a woman, also died. Those who were rescued were taken ashore. A number of those taken to hospital. But despite this tragedy, still the boats keep coming. Another five small boats coming. Another five small boats pushed off early this morning, but for are still in the water. One has had to turn back off those four that are in the water, two have now reached uk waters, which means , of course, waters, which means, of course, as is routine, theyre picked up by Border Force Vessels and returned to dover. Were told that the border force, vessel defender has picked up the those on board one of those small boats , probably around 50 or so. Boats, probably around 50 or so. Thats usually the average number on a boat, another boat has just made it into uk waters. So youre looking already at about 100 who have crossed so far today. The other two boats cross as well. We could be looking at 200 today, on the day after this rwanda bill passed in the commons. The commons. All right. Thats mark white, our Home Security editor. The irony is, at pat cullen, just hours after the bill was finally passed in parliament, 1215 this morning, just a few hours later, that boat would have set off. And, you know, weve had 6225, i think, so far this year. And were not even in the hot weather yet. Or were going to have many, many more people coming. We really are. Were going to talk now to the labour mp graham stringer. Morning, graham. Good morning to you. Morning, can you your reaction first. This is terrible news. This is now 14 migrants that we know of so far have died this year. Theyre just the ones we know about crossing the channel well, its always a tragedy when people die, and particularly when there are children involved. But i think it highlights the fact that i dont believe this bill will work. The taxpayers will get a big hit in their pockets from trying to implement the bill, but people who are willing to risk their own lives and their childrens lives to cross the channelin childrens lives to cross the channel in order to come to the United Kingdom are not going to be put off by the 1 in 100 chance, possibly of being sent to rwanda. To rwanda. Graham, you say it wont work is probably. But thats about the best the government have got. Rishi sunak resting all his hopes on this because he says he thinks it will be a deterrent. Why dont you think it will be a. Is that because theres just so few will be able to go and thousands are trying to cross . Thousands are trying to cross . Or perhaps rwanda isnt such a terrible place after all. Well, i think partly wont work because people who want to come here will avoid being , come here will avoid being, captured as, as it were , and captured as, as it were, and arrested when they arrived. People are very determined. And whatever is put in place, theyre likely to avoid it. Its also going to be very expensive, but the basic thing is, are is the desire to come to the United Kingdom, stronger than their fear of being deported to rwanda. And most of the evidence is that if theyre willing to face a hazardous crossing, then their their fear of rwanda is less than wanting to come to this country. I actually think that the government are doing this. Its a gimmick. They are timing it for to look as though theyre doing something before theyre doing something before the general election. So i think its a gimmick, a political gimmick. And it it wont work in gimmick. And it it wont work in the medium to long term. And the government should have been doing this previously. Most of us, whether conservative, labour or any other party, get into politics. So we can change and improve the law. The government have not really done anything because the law that is at the centre of this, that is making it difficult is international law, and there is a belief that you cant change these laws. Well, i think the country has to Start Talking about it. Jack straw, 25 years ago was talking about changing some of these laws, like the European Convention on human rights laws set up with well meaning after the Second World War in the early 1950s and late 1940s and no longer fit for purpose. It doesnt mean to say we should ignore human rights, and we should stop being as humane as we possibly can be. But the those laws are not enabling to us do what we want to do. So are you what i mean, are you suggesting that we somehow disentangle the human rights act from the European Court of human rights . Im not. I dont have an exact solution, but i think we should start negotiating with other countries and say, look, this is not doing what it says on on the tin. Weve gone from a situation in, after the Second World War where a huge numbers of refugees in europe , of refugees in europe, countries, had failed the Jewish Population in germany and other countries. And so there were laws set up which said this shouldnt happen again. But that isnt whats happening now. People are coming from all over the world. Many of them economic migrants, using very different criteria that werent dreamt of in the early 1950s to claim asylum in this country. And i think so. Graeme, are you saying, look, do i have in my pocket a solution . I dont, but i think we know its not working, so we should try and change it. Change it. So are you saying that when labour get in, thats what youll do. You will change the human rights act yes. I think we should start changing the human rights act. It always sounds difficult because its got such a great title. Whos against human title. Whos against human rights . Nobody. But actually, when you look at the detail of it, it isnt really doing what it, it isnt really doing what it says on the tin. I dont think what some of the conservatives are saying, that we should just unilaterally withdraw. So i dont think withdraw. So i dont think thats the solution either. But thats the solution either. But we should be able to change laws that are not enabling us to do what we want to do as a country. But labour are very fond of saying that the rwanda bill wont work. Why dont you give it a chance to work . I mean, weve seen whats happened this morning. And you keep on saying its not going to be a deterrent, but we dont know that because because it hasnt been tested or tried yet. Been tested or tried yet. You know, thats self evidently true. I obviously self evidently true. I obviously dont know. There is a certain level of prediction in it, but taking a common sense view of the risks involved and the desire, i dont believe it will work, graham, weve been talking today on gb news about Saint Georges day. Are you a firm patriot . Your leader has been draped himself in the flag of saint george today. In a social media clip, he says labour mps should embrace the flag of saint george. Is he right . Yes, in essence he is. Ive spent many, the 23rd of april at Saint Georges day luncheons, which ive, enjoyed the one doesnt have any choice about where one is born, but im proud to be english. Proud to be british, and enjoy celebrating a national symbol. Very good. All right. Thats graham stringer. Hes the mp for blackley and broughton in greater manchester. Always good to talk to you. Still to come the story were both interested in pearce more struggles for Meghan Markle as her podcast is pushed back. No. No. Is it really . Is it really . Well be discussing that and more next. All the time 1118. With britains newsroom on gb news. With Andrew Pierce and carolyn. The panel are back. Thats good. Thats good. Welcome. Covid. Welcome. Covid. Ranger. Lord coleridge and nigel nelson. And, nigel, youre going to start, arent you . Were going to the roles. Sir mark rowley, head of met police this morning, has defended that officer who accused that man of being openly jew as gideon falter the other day. Yeah, but my instinct was that mark is right on this one. No, of course your instinct is. Is. Well, look, we share so few instincts , nigel. We do indeed. Instincts, nigel. We do indeed. Yeah reason being. Is that what the officer was trying to do in an extremely clumsy way, which, hence the apology which was right, is to say to gideon falter and unfortunate person, you know, he would have chosen the worst possible jewish person probably in the country to be having an argument with because obviously , gideon falter is an obviously, gideon falter is an activist with the, with the campaign against anti semitism. Anyway, what he was trying to do was say, look, this could kick off this could be dangerous. Im trying to actually, provide you from any kind. Hang on. Hang on. In doing so , im going to in doing so, im going to insuh in doing so, im going to insult your religion in trying to head off. I mean , the reason to head off. I mean, the reason he said he was openly jewish is he said he was openly jewish is he is because he was wearing a yarmulke. So it was entirely entitled to do. Of course, he is. Its not is. Its not a is. Its not a question of his entitlement or anything like that. Entitlement or anything like that. And hes perfectly that. And hes perfectly entitled to be. Theyre perfectly entitled to cross the road, if he wished, totally entitled to walk straight through that palestinian protest. The point that the officer seemed to be making was that if you do that, i cant guarantee your safety. Guarantee your safety. But why cant he . Because thats the point. Why cant the Police Guarantee the safety of jewish people on london streets if theres not enough officers on those marches, get more out there to protect. Call them off and all the rest of us, or call them off. Well, not call the march off, but i mean, carols point about about have more officers out there. Absolutely but youre deaung there. Absolutely but youre dealing with a situation in real time where there werent enough officers where where this sergeant wasnt sure he could actually guarantee. I understand that, gideon. You called it. You called it. Yeah. I just want to say this yeah. I just want to say this to him. But you say it was clumsy. What was appalling . He allowed that gideon fall to be racially abused while he was speeding. I could hear people calling him nazi scum. He didnt once remonstrate with those fanatics , those anti semites, fanatics, those anti semites, and say, thats a hate crime. Youre arrested. He let them carry on again, youre back into the same situation about did were there enough police there to do that job . That would be an arrestable offence. And i think thats absolutely right. But in the situation he was presented with and, you know, all weve seen is thatis and, you know, all weve seen is that is that video which mark rowley says is not quite the full story. Well, they always say that. Well, they always say that. Well, they always say that. Well, it may or may not be. Well, it may or may not be. This is placating agitators. This is placating people who are likely to hate crimes, calling people nazi and skunk. Yes, i think the real challenge here is were continuously being told that these marches are safe, that theyre peaceful. Then why is there this worry . Why was this officer so concerned about this safety of this individual . So thats the first part of it, the safety issue. Secondly the openly jewish point , we can say openly jewish point, we can say its clumsy, nigel, but police have been now involved in this situation for months. And months and months. There is no reason to be clumsy in dealing with the situation. Its not the first time. Its not the second time. Yes, the gideon himself is a bit of an agitator. He obviously allowed to be. Hes allowed to be. But the police should now be able to handle this situation, you know. Where does it stop . Doesit you know. Where does it stop . Does it stop . Well im openly sikh or youre openly black or youre openly this. Youre openly that you cannot be having that kind of culture within the met. Can you imagine anyone saying that to you . You are being openly seek there would be outraged. Exactly. I cant imagine it if it did happen, there would be out. Oh, to a muslim woman wearing anyone a hijab or to a guy wearing a suit. On this day where we are celebrating Saint Georges day and everything, that is great about england and being in this country, one of the great things is our freedoms that we have here. We acknowledge everyone. We have an inclusive country. We all respect each other. We cant have our police who police with our consent, being clumsy in this kind of environment isnt pubuc this kind of environment isnt Public Safety the safety more important . But the Public Safety is important is the principle. You cant have a turban or a skull cap being provocative, being seen as provocative, and the people who see it as provocative have to be arrested, nigel, not the people who are wearing. I agree with you, but but within the circumstance that that sergeant was operating means you always placate the agitators. That means. And the only people who broken people. Yeah. The only people who broke the law were the ones who abusing. Thats why the police abusing. Thats why the Police Officer was talking to him and nothing was done to them. Yes. He carried on saying, move away, or i might have to arrest you. That was wrong. And we know thatis that was wrong. And we know that is wrong, which is why the met police, thats incompetent, inept, and the metropolitan Police Commissioner is embraced it. Well, but the met then apologised and the apologise apology was probably the worst part as well because that that completely , wrecked any chance completely, wrecked any chance that they had, but when it comes down to what the. Im thinking about the officer at the time and what was going through his head and what you would then do. I agree with you, but this is lets take it away from the opposite. Its the organisation. Yes. Okay. The act of dealing with the situation, the act of then responding to it. You talk about context. This is a constant context. This is a surprising one off incident. This is happening every weekend. So i cant accept when you say, well in this context, this is the context that theyre dealing with. They need to deal with it better. Well, and it may well be that they need more Police Officers out there , but in this out there, but in this particular case, there werent enough people around to go and deal with the situation that might have kicked off. If they cant deal with it, then they have to say to the home secretary, we have to call these marches off. Yes, they have the power and they should do that if theyre not safe. Exactly. Thats the point. Exactly. Thats the point. Weve got to move on now to something much, much less serious, Meghan Markles podcast. Are you saying thats not serious . Meghan markles podcast i what are you suggesting . I might be saying that. I mean, really, its been pushed back as her Company Struggles to get started. Come on, nigel, take that away. Yeah, what has happened here is that Meghan Markle was going to get a podcast out , and shes to get a podcast out, and shes instead going to be concentrate on her netflix series, the netflix about making strawberry jam. Yeah. Yeah. Yes. It seems to be what it will involve, cooking, gardening , entertaining and friendship. Whatever. Actually, what does she know about the latter . About the latter . Well, im crazy about it. Doesnt sound like a terrible all the other two. Yes. Yes. Cooking a terribly exciting tv series one way or another. But anyway, she was a radical feminist. Meghan markle a feminist. Meghan markle a feminist. Meghan markle a feminist can cook. Yeah, but i dont think thats what youd expect a radical feminist Website Program to be about cooking. That was a ridiculous thing you just said there, pierce. I mean, because so why is it being pushed . Pushed . So is it. Whats the netflix is taking over from the podcast. Its they need the money. Busy with. Busy with. Hes busy with that and of course theyve still got the 100 million that they had from netflix. Right. And really this netflix. Right. And really this is the last hurrah to see if they can make it actually work, which they havent been up until now. How. Now. This is to do with her private company, isnt it . This is her own company. I think this is there was peak meghan and harry when they arrived in california, and theyre really struggling to get theyre really struggling to get the content because, look, its all about content. If you want all about content. If you want to have people listening to your podcast, the clicks , the youve podcast, the clicks, the youve got to have Something Interesting to say. And originally it was, well, they were royals and they were something going on with the royalty. Now its jam. What now its jam tomorrow, which is jam tomorrow or gardening. Ive been doing it for years. Ive been doing it for years. How many pots of jam do you think shes going to have to make to pay for all harrys Legal Expenses . I know quite a lot. Is it . Is the point, really, covid that unless theyre bitching about the royal family, theres no theres nothing. Theres no way they can monetise. I think the monetisation of the family, criticism of the family, harrys pain at whats been going on. Yeah. You know, but there was only going to be so much road that theyre going to have with this. Where do they go. And they have to define themselves for the future. What are they now in this hollywood world . And it seems like theres some brand riviera or something or there. And thats a very crowded. Market. Yeah. You know, crowded. Market. Yeah. You know, there are many people doing that, isnt it . Thats the truth, isnt it, nigel . We are only interested in what theyve got to say about the royals. I think so, yeah. I mean, the whole thing is that if youre offering 100 million, £100 million. Yeah. To go and do something. What do you want to hearis something. What do you want to hear is some dirt on the royal family. What goes on inside gossip inside the royal family. What happens and i think calvi is right that they came to the end of the road on that one, that having done what they did, having harry done the book. Having harry done the book. Yeah. Yeah. Nobodys going to tune in to netflix to see her making a pot of jam. Of jam. But you remember when they got together, they were going to save the world. The pairs. Im going to end world poverty. She was going to fight for feminism. Yeah, yeah. And theyre not doing any of that now because they have to make money now. Yes, you have to make a buck now. And this is this is how theyre doing it. Do you think do you think theyve realised theyve theyve made a terrible error and theyre now desperately trying to reinvent the wheel. Im not sure theyll accept that. Theyve made an error. I dont think that theyre i think theyre going to be doubling down and doubling down again on more strawberry jam or whatever it is , and more gardening and it is, and more gardening and whatever it takes until they find an audience and they might find an audience and they might find an audience and they might find an audience. You never know. But its going to be a journey thats going to be interesting. In the states , theyre in the states, theyre ridiculed in a way they never were. Their credibility , their their credibility, their credibility. You become, you know, whether youre a list , know, whether youre a list, its very quickly you slip down that alphabetical to order get to a different point in the in the sort of alphabet of c plus at the moment i would think. Yeah. Yeah. But still with the royal family, its prince louis sixth birthday today. Yes. Now, what weve got to say about that and weve got to say about that and we should wish him a happy birthday. But no, but there is no photo i there is already a controversy. And andrew, you got it right right there. Normally that youd expect a photograph of, of louis, so far theres no embargoed photograph being put out to the press. So it looks like were not getting one. And of course, were five weeks away from the controversy that princess kate caused by the mothers day photograph. No. Look, look, i think we have to remember , for, you know, the to remember, for, you know, the princess well, is wales is unwell. Sure. This family. Somebody else could take the photo. Yeah, they going through a lot as a family, i think. Lets ease off. Yeah. No, whatever happens here. But no photoshopping , you know, just photo. You know, i read a nice little story last night, and i. And im sure kate will still do it. She has a little, little thing before all her childrens birthdays. At midnight the night before their birthday , she bakes before their birthday, she bakes them a birthday cake, and she doesit them a birthday cake, and she does it on the stroke of midnight. So its the midnight after their birthday happens, and she makes them a cake and they know its coming. But when they know its coming. But when they know its coming. But when they get up in the morning, thats wonderful. You know, what we feel from them is that theyre very hands on parents. Yeah they are. And i say this as ive got a boy whos going to be six soon as well. Yeah. And were currently working out what party were going to do. It sounds like football is going to be the theme. Theres a lot of hands on parenting that goes on, and a lot of time, but theyre a remarkable family considering the pressure theyre under. And the pressure theyre under. And as i say, with her being unwell at the moment, i know lets all cut them some slack. And do you think does that mean they get cake for breakfast on birthday . Who doesnt get cake for breakfast . I never do, you know. Breakfast . I never do, you know. You know. No, you would on birthdays because cakes was holidays and holidays. We got the cake in the evening. Yes, but tea . Yes, but tea . Yes, but tea . Yes. With your tea. Yes. With your tea. It was a fondant fancy. It was a fondant fancy. Yes, i remember the fondant. Fancy. Were showing our age. Youll remember them too, nigel. What colour did you have . Like . Oh, it was pink. Like . Oh, it was pink. Like . Oh, it was pink. Brown. Oh, id have had yellow. Ive had a blue one. I did everything in blue. Well thats when i was. If i was lucky, my mother would always get me a fresh cream cake. Oh, i love. Right. Right. And what was your birthday cake, melanie. Oh, i never got one, i just did, i just sent out such a hard done by him up the chimney. Done by him up the chimney. Up the chimney with oliver twist. Please. Can i have some more . We were skint, you know, as you were. You were. You were. We were skint as kids. We were skint as kids. Yeah, but thats why we only got cakes occasionally. Yeah, not. Not all the time now and not for breakfast. Hey. Thank you. You too. Its great to see you both. This is britains newsroom. Sophia wenzler has got the. News. Andrew. Thank you. Its 1130. Andrew. Thank you. Its1130. Im sophia wenzler in the gb newsroom now. A child is among five migrants whove died trying to cross the English Channel after their small boat got into difficulties off the french coast. The incident happened off wimereux beach near boulogne just before 2 am. A number of other migrants were rescued, with at least one now critically ill in hospital. Gb news can also reveal that other three small boats launched from an area near the site. This morning. Latest figures show the number of migrants crossing the channel has increased by 24 this year. 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I just noticed that stock market. I think that is just an all time record high. Its interesting though , its interesting though, because the american s p 500 has been having a bit of a tough time in the last few weeks, but clearly in britain something might be going, why arent they . Why dont these ministers talk it up . We were talking to the export minister, lord offered her, and he said, there was a poll last week showing the tories arent trusted on brexit anymore. Why dont they sing up from the rafters when theres something good to talk about now . Yeah. No, there is some good economic news. And of course inflation now as well is lower inflation now as well is lower in the uk than it was in the United States. Yeah, but we United States. Yeah, but we dont hear so much about that, perhaps because the government prefers to talk about votes that it can barely win. Eight minutes past midnight last night, the house of lords finally relented. I know youve been talking about it. Weve got our very own katherine forster, whos been travelling with the Prime Minister over to poland. Were going to be speaking to her in the program to see what the Prime Minister has to say about all of that debacle, but also, frankly, whats this, 10 to 12 weeks about . Well, yeah. Why do we have to wait so long . Why hasnt more been organised . Yeah. Why dont you get the paint up now . Send. Send. So itll be being sent to the king right now. It will be by the end of the week, certainly, that it gets royal assent, but we dont know whether it happens today, tomorrow, thursday. I would imagine before. I assume its all to do with the anticipated challenge from the anticipated challenge from the human rights lawyers of whom . One of whom well be talking to in a little bit. I do know that one of the issues that ministers were thinking about, because one of the questions is, why havent you identified those who can go on the flights initially . I know one of the concerns from ministers is one of these lords amendments was about stopping the kind of people who could go on the plane. So if you dont know how the bill is going to be amended and you dont know what the final shape of the bill is, you cant necessarily identify those that are going to be heard. I think i read this morning that the first detainees have already been identified , the already been identified, the ones that are going to be shipped off. So thats thats not what Michael Tomlinson said earlier. He didnt seem to be able to answer the question. That was rishi this morning in the papers saying that theyve already been identified, which i thought was odd because once theyre identified, you can then stop them going, yeah, well, weve got the an airfield is currently on hold waiting for these planes , chartered planes these planes, chartered planes booked apparently, although we dont know which airline private airline it is. So there are still some Big Questions to answer that. But also, could we be having courts in pubs . I was going to say we dont want to talk about this rwanda plan for three hours solid. So we are talking about pub justice, its a it could be an interesting one. Pubs are always an inquest, always pubs. You go to a pub, everybodys got a view on everything in it. A judge standing behind the bar. Do you want to be sentenced by someone whos had ten pints of beer . No, no. Do you want the jury to have had the beer though . Thats the point. Yeah. No, no, no, that is well absolutely not. No no no, it would take an instant dislike for him. Youd be damned for ten years. You would. Charming. You would. Charming. Not until he got out of the aba. Okay. Exactly. That would do it. Thats all that more in midday for now, though, youre with britains newsroom on gb news. Were going to be talking to lord dannatt about rishi sunak and ukraine and the military aid. Hes talking to britains newsroom listening to britains newsroom listening to britains newsroom listening to britains newsroom or watch. Britains newsroom or watch. Beau biden its 1139. Youre with britains its1139. Youre with britains newsroom. When . Gb news andrew pearson, carole malone. Well, were sending a record package of military aid to ukraine. £500 million boost for the war effort. The supplies will include some 400 vehicles, 1600 munitions and 4 million rounds of ammunition. How big a threat is Vladimir Putin . Is this aid really necessary . We talked delighted now to talk to general lord dannatt, the former head of the british army, lord dannatt. Good morning to you. The Prime Minister is on his way to poland, a two day trip. And hes saying very pointedly that putin may not stop at the border with poland. Is he a significant threat if he wins this war in ukraine to other countries , ukraine to other countries, andrew, most definitely he is. I mean, i think thats why supporting ukraine for the ukrainians to blunt putin and russias aggression is really, really important , you cant really important, you cant believe a thing that putin says about not having any further intentions, i was in lithuania 2 or 3 weeks ago where i can tell you that all those around the baltic are extraordinarily worried about, further aggression from putin. So, so supporting ukraine. And this package is really, really important. Its an important package. But of course , its package. But of course, its a small package in comparison to the very large package that the us congress is now by way of passing. But, but all that together, this is important support to ukraine and that is vital in our european interests. Lord dannatt people would say, because you say its not a very big package this year its been its 3 billion or its going to be 3 billion. But a lot of people here at home might say, you know, we keep being told that our own services, our own military doesnt have enough equipment. But this is the you think this is the right thing to do . Do . It is the right thing to do, but also the point that youre getting at is also the right thing to do. We need to increase our defence spending overall, not just to support ukraine, which, as ive already said, is very, very important, but also to make sure that the United Kingdoms armed forces are at a sufficient level of capability that we can play our role. A significant role, a major role, within nato in europe to deter further russian aggression. Lord dannatt you said in you said in a piece recently that i think you wrote for the daily mail , you think you wrote for the daily mail, you said that the uk is now in the last chance saloon. What did you mean by that . Well , the last chance saloon well, the last chance saloon is the place where we dont want to be for too long. We can get out of the last chance saloon if we increase our defence expenditure. Theres a lot of talk, jeremy hunt in the spring budget, talked about going to 2. 5 of gdp when conditions allow keir starmer. And the allow keir starmer. And the labour party has said the same. And thats a start. But its only a start. Theres a strong case to say that we should be increasing from 2. 2 through 2. 5 to 3. Now that would be a significant increase in our defence budget to give us the aircraft , the ships and aircraft, the ships and particularly the land forces that we lack at the present moment so that we can make a real contribution to deterring war. And this is the whole point. We dont want to be in the business of fighting a war. The costs of that are disastrous. You probably heard me say before looking back to the 1930s, in 1935, we spent less than 3 of gdp on defence, and that didnt stop hitler. But by 1939 it was 18, and in 1940 it was 46. Thats the disastrous cost of fighting a war. What we need to do is pay the premium to deter war. And were currently not paying it. Just briefly. Lord dannatt are we still a Major Military power , we have slipped back from power, we have slipped back from being the significant military power that we were, but with this increased investment, we can get back to where we should be, which is the leading military power within nato in europe. All right. Thats lord dannatt, who is the former head of the army. Were going to talk now , moving on to the human now, moving on to the human rights lawyer, david haigh , rights lawyer, david haigh, well talk to him. He joins us now. David hey, youre a human rights lawyer, so how much are you going to make out of this rwanda bill when they try and get the flights in the air, will they be beating a door to your beating , a path to your door, beating, a path to your door, the migrants, so they cant be deported . Deported . Yeah. Good morning to you both. I mean, first of all, andrew, i wont be doing any cases on this by myself, but youre quite right in the suggestion that a lot of lawyers are going to be making a lot of money. I think it was always inevitable that this was going to pass. Now its inevitable to pass. Now its inevitable that its going to end up in Court Battles in our domestic courts, but also in after those in the international ones. And quite as i said, a lot of lawyers will be rubbing their hands and perhaps ordering their porsches because theres going to be a lot of legal battles. Now. David sunak attacked what he called leftie human rights lawyers. But surely what these lawyers. But surely what these lawyers are doing, theyre encouraging people to make that crossing and risk their lives. Crossing and risk their lives. I think youve got there are some there are there are obviously some lawyers. Weve seen some cases of lawyers coming forward where they have done the wrong thing and theyve been found to have broken the law in doing things similar to what youve suggested. But of course , at the end of the day as course, at the end of the day as well, the majority of lawyers do just follow the law effectively and would advise their clients on that. So you cant blame lawyers for everything. We know that some of the lawyers are giving are telling people to say what they need to say to get into this country, that theyre tortured, that theyve been victims of slave labouh theyve been victims of slave labour. That is. Yeah, that thats thats wrong. Its breaking the law. They shouldnt be doing that. Its breaking not just professional ethics, but its breaking the law and its putting peoples lives at risk. So that is absolutely wrong. Youre correct. Absolutely wrong. Can i just ask you finally, david, youve seen a lot of migrants and refugees. Are they all on legal aid . All on legal aid . And a lot of them are. And thats the problem that you i think one of the main problems that you have with the legal aid system, and ive seen it a lot, a lot of people that should be getting legal aid dont. And the ones that perhaps shouldnt do and a lot of the people, if not the majority of the people that youre going to see with the cases that go forward. Now, these test cases, both in our domestic courts and elsewhere , domestic courts and elsewhere, are going to be looking looking at either being funded by legal aid or other charities. So its going to cost the taxpayer even more what comes now over the next few months. And sticking on the court point as well, the courts dont sit all of the time between now and the next general election. They take pretty much all of august off, all of september off and holidays between. So weve probably got about ten weeks, 11 weeks of actual English Court time. So if thats stuck to and these things arent going through on an emergency basis , weve got a emergency basis, weve got a problem with the amount of cases that need to go through , for, that need to go through, for, for this law to work. Fascinating. Fascinating. Fascinating. Okay. All right. Okay. All right. David, thats david haye, the human rights lawyer. Now, still to come, its Saint Georges day, and were very happy about it. Yes it. Yes , we it. Yes , we im very it. Yes , we im very happy, even yes, we im very happy, even though we dont think he did slay a dragon. Saint george and he didnt ever come to england, which is a bit of a shame, but he would have liked it had he come. He would you. With britains newsroom on gb news. Happy Saint Georges day now people across the country are gathering to celebrate our great patron saint. Were now joined by our east midlands reporter, will hollis. Hi. Will whats happening . Hello. Yes. Were live from the old salutation. It has just the old salutation. It has just this second started raining, the winds coming in. But thats the perfect day to fly the Saint Georges cross and Saint Georges cross and Saint Georges day. This is the Royal Society of saint george in radford, nottingham. Weve got dave and weve got rob. Just dave and weve got rob. Just describe for me. Why are you guys dressed up as knights here . Is this a permanent position . This happens every year in the 23rd. And we are very, very proud to be picked to lead the parade. Now the parade is finished for a bit. We always meet here in all the lads and girls turn up. We have a good girls turn up. We have a good time here. And is this your own costume . Do you rent it or is it always in your wardrobe . Its my own costume. The wife its my own costume. The wife owns it and hangs it up in the wardrobe. Why are we here today, though . Why does Saint Georges day still matter here in nottingham on the 23rd of april . Because were very patriotic and we want to keep the identity of being english going as long as we can. As we can. As we can. And where do we think that identity is now . Are people still proud to be english . Are you proud to be english . Yeah, of course we wouldnt. We wouldnt be dressed like this. But yeah, were very proud to be english. Everyone here, were going to be celebrating the pub all day in the old cell, as you just mentioned. So yeah , well be mentioned. So yeah, well be having a great time. And what do you want . People who maybe dont think that Saint Georges day is a good idea or arent proud to be english . What do you want them to know about these kinds of events and why you do them . Well . Please come down and just enjoy the day. Im sure youll enjoy it. Theres no trouble, you know, were proud people. Were were nottingham mainly , but theres lots of mainly, but theres lots of visitors come to see us. So yeah, well have a great time. And what about you . Do you want people to come down here and do you think maybe we should even have a bank holiday . Its a tuesday, right now. What are we doing here at the pub . Bank holiday . Thats the next agenda for us. That has got to be done. Everybody else gets a bank holiday for their parents sins, but we dont. We love the cell, the sajid javid period. Dave put us all in that pub together. Have a nice breakfast. And what about that massive england flag that youve got in the Market Square . Thats brilliant. But the biggest, biggest in the land. And everybodys proud to go past that. You get a tingle up your spine. Theres something wrong with you. English and proud , with you. English and proud, its only just gone past 12 00. We know that this party is going on all day long after im gone. But it is Saint Georges day, and i think theyve got one thing that they do want to say to you. Gb news. Happy georges day. Hey happy georges day. Hey happy georges day. Hey very good. George. In my whole life. Rafe taoiseach whole life. Rafe taoiseach ultimate. Ultimate. Keep me english. Keep english to my da day. Very patriotic. Well done, very patriotic. Well done, well well done. Well, i want to be there. I think Saint Georges day is a great thing. It should be a bank holiday and scrap the bank holiday on may day. May the 1st which is just some old cockney thing. Why cant why cant we have both . Cos theyre expensive. Malone to who . Its not expensive to you. To employers, itd be another encouragement. Dont you want people back at work . Not. We have 3 Million People that arent working at all. So an extra bank holiday for those who want to Bank Holidays in may. Already we dont need to. We have georges day. All right, well, you work on all the Bank Holidays. Well be interested to see if you say anyway, thats. Oh we actually. Yeah. Have we got emails . Yeah. Have we got emails . Come on. Yeah, yeah, anne says we cant allow the excuse of there arent enough police if we havent got enough police to police, the marches must be stopped. Yeah, and to protect borders. Rishi got the rwanda bill through on Saint Georges day. Is rishi the new saint george . Is rishi the new saint george . Says charles. He could be if he has a workable follow through. Has a workable follow through. Could be slain by a dragon. Could be slain by a dragon. Well, and also, of course, the first planes not going till july. Yes, i know, i dont know why its taking so long. Well, i think i think thats thats it from you because thats it from you because thats its been lovely to be working with you. Thank you. I enjoyed ipsis and bev turner is back tomorrow up next though is good afternoon britain with tom and pip. Weve got a huge show coming up as of course the rwanda bill was passed finally last night. Our correspondent is travelling with the Prime Minister to poland. Shell be getting the idea of what the Prime Minister thinks is going to happen next, but also reaction to those tragic deaths in the channel this morning. We also want to know what you think about pub justice. Now what is it . Well, its this suggestion that to tackle the huge backlog in the courts , judges could sit in the courts, judges could sit in the courts, judges could sit in pubs in public libraries, coroners inquests could take their take place there as well. What do you think about the idea . Im thoroughly in favour. All that after your weather. All that after your weather. All that after your weather. A brighter outlook with boxt solar sponsors of weather on. Gb news. Hello there. Welcome to your latest gb news weather update. It should brighten up for many Northern Areas through the rest of the day, but it will remain fairly cloudy in the southeast. Fairly cloudy in the southeast. Thats because a weather front has been pushing along the southeast throughout this morning. Thats bringing those cloudier skies. Its fairly weak feature by the time we get to this afternoon, but it will continue to bring quite a lot of cloud around to many southern areas of england and the southeast. Thats where we could see some drizzly rain, particularly along the coast. Elsewhere, it should stay dry through this afternoon and there will be a good deal of sunshine for north and Western Areas. Northern ireland, western scotland, northwestern wales as well seeing highs of 15 or 16 degrees. So in the sheltered sunshine, not bad at all. But if you are exposed to this northerly wind along the east coast, youre certainly going to nofice coast, youre certainly going to notice a chill in the air. And there will be quite a bit more cloud around these areas as we lead into tonight as well. That cloud will continue to pull in off the north sea, keeping skies a little cloudier all along the east coast. Well continue to see some cloud, mainly across parts of wales. Southern england too , but across the north west, too, but across the north west, clear skies will lead to another very chilly start. We could be very chilly start. We could be down as low as minus four really, so a bit of a patchy frost is expected for Western Areas throughout wednesday. It areas throughout wednesday. It will be a chilly start but quite a bright start. Therell be more in the way of sunshine, but still much of the sunshine will be restricted to Western Areas of the country and the far north, while the east still have this onshore wind, bringing in more in the way of cloud and the risk of showers and that chillier feel. So temperatures closer to 8 or 9 in the east and closer to 8 or 9 in the east and closer to 8 or 9 in the east and closer to 15 in the west. That warm feeling inside from boxt boilers sponsors of weather on. Gb news. Weather good afternoon. Britain its 12 00 on monday, the 23rd of april. Five people are dead attempting to cross the channel to the uk. Just hours after rishi sunaks flagship rwanda bill passed in parliament. Well have more on that. Plus analysis on what happens next with the deportation flights to kigali. Deportation flights to kigali. The number of alcohol specific deaths has reached a record high, driven by a high surge in the number of booze related fatalities among middle aged women, experts say its down to the pandemic. Down to the pandemic. Also, happy Saint Georges day red crosses are flying high as crowds gather across england to celebrate their patron saint. But would you like it to be a bank holiday