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Already planning for life without mr sunak, and one group is said to want to replace him with a liz truss style leader who isnt liz truss. Who isnt liz truss. Apparently, if they lose the next general election and with 10 million brits fear to be addicted to junk food, is it time to treat it as seriously as alcohol or drugs . Or is it time to just stop scoffing . So much grub . So much grub . Thats all coming in your next hour. Whats the show . Whats the show . Always an absolute pleasure to have your company got a big debate coming up later in the show already put this out on social media. Hundreds of you have respond did. And the question today is this should the uk accept a ukraine style refugee plan . But for palestinians, well over 60 charities, activists and lawyers reconcile, including care for calais. But what could possibly go wrong . Well, how come no arab states have yet offered to do the same . Why should the burden fall on britain and recall when a similar scheme was tried in the 1990s in denmark, 64 of those refugees went on to commit crimes and a third of their children also did. Should we do the same in britain . Get in touch all the usual ways . Vaiews gbnews. Com. Lets kick off the show with all news headunes off the show with all News Headlines from sam francis. Headlines from sam francis. Martin, thanks very much. And very good afternoon from the gb newsroom. Itsjust very good afternoon from the gb newsroom. Its just gone 3 00 and leading the news this hour. Israel has now admitted its forces were behind an unintended airstrike which killed seven aid workers in gaza, including a british national. The israeli Prime Minister, benjamin netanyahu, says that officials are checking the incident thoroughly and is pledging to do everything to prevent it happening again. The group happening again. The group killed were travelling in two armoured cars marking marked with the word central kitchen logo. The ngo has claimed the Israel Defence forces carried out the attack despite coordinating their movements with the military. Those killed with the military. Those killed also include palestinians and people from poland and the us. Rishi sunak says there must be a transparent investigation. Transparent investigation. Shocked and saddened to hear the reported deaths of aid workers in gaza. Were urgently working to confirm all the details, but my thoughts right now are with their friends and family. Theyre doing fantastic work bringing alleviation to the suffering that many are experiencing in gaza. They should be praised and commended for what theyre doing. They need to be allowed to do that work unhindered, and its incumbent on israel make sure incumbent on israel to make sure that do that. And were that they can do that. And were asking israel to investigate what happened urgently, what happened to urgently, because clearly there are questions need to questions that need to be answered. Prime minister meanwhile, the Prime Minister is backing j. K. Rowling after she criticised a new hate crime law in scotland. The law came into effect yesterday and bans hatred against people on certain grounds. But hatred against people on certain grounds. But the author hatred against people on certain grounds. But the author says grounds. But the author says that it risks silencing genuine debate on issues around gender and womens rights. Rishi sunak has backed her concerns, saying that people should not be criminalised for stating simple facts on biology. Shadow minister pat mcfadden told gb news earlier that labour has no plans for any similar laws if it wins the next election. Wins the next election. We want proper enforcement of the anti hate crime laws that are there and make sure that the right penalties are in place to protect people. Were not planning to legislate for new crimes in this area, and i dont think jk rowling should be arrested. Arrested. Finland will observe a day of mourning tomorrow after a 12 year old child was killed and two others were seriously wounded after a shooting that was carried out by another child of the same age at a Primary School. Its understood a permit for the handgun belonged to a relative of the suspect , police relative of the suspect, police say. The 12 year old has admitted to carrying out the shooting , but the circumstances shooting, but the circumstances of the incident are not yet clear. The of the incident are not yet clear. The finnish Prime Minister has said he is deeply shocked and that his thoughts are with the victims on and their. Adidas that are with the victims on and thwill. Adidas that are with the victims on and thwill block. Adidas that are with the victims on and thwill block any didas that are with the victims on and thwill block any german that it will block any german football shirts featuring the number 44, amid concerns over the resemblance to the ss nazi symbol. The new kits were launched last month ahead of germany hosting the European Championships in june and july of this year. But a historian flagged similarities with the logo for ss, which was a nazi Paramilitary Organisation in the countrys association, Paramilitary Organisation in the counthat association, Paramilitary Organisation in the counthat didntassociation, Paramilitary Organisation in the counthat didnt supportion, Paramilitary Organisation in the counthat didnt support the says that it didnt support the similarities when the design was approved, but that it will now be changed. The government is facing criticism of its plan, expanded of its new plan to expanded of its new plan to expand funded childcare rather for working parents. In the first week of it being rolled out across the country, meeting parents in hartlepool this morning, the Prime Minister rejected claims that nurseries cant cope with the increasing demand as a result of that new policy. Rishi sunak says the package of support families policy. Rishi sunak says the pacheen f support families policy. Rishi sunak says the pacheen introduced families policy. Rishi sunak says the pacheen introduced stagess policy. Rishi sunak says the pacheen introduced stages to has been introduced in stages to give time more places to be give time for more places to be made. Prices in shops made available. Prices in shops are rising at the slowest rate for two years. Thats according to new figures. In march, shop pnces to new figures. In march, shop prices were up 1. 3, slowing from 2. 5 the month before. The British Retail Consortium. Says British Retail Consortium. Says that discounts on popular easter treats and essentials, along with promotions on electricals and have helped to and clothing, have helped to keep those prices down. And if youve ever opted for private mode when browsing on the internet Search Engine Google Chrome, well, you could. Have chrome, well, you could. Have fallen victim to having your personal information stored. Thats according to findings that a court that have emerged from a court case. In that have emerged from a court case. In ruling, case. In a us ruling, google will to delete private will have to delete all private user data, which was not supposed to have been tracked. The us case was filed in 2020, in america, but the judgement today to google today will apply to Google Chrome here in the uk. Chrome users here in the uk. After the decided that after the judge decided that there be a limit on the there must be a limit on the tech giants collection of personal information. Thats the latest from the newsroom. For latest from the newsroom. For now, you can sign up to gb news alerts. Just scan the qr code on your screen or go to gbnews. Com alerts. Now, though, gbnews. Com alerts. Now, though, its back to martin in westminster. Thank you sam. Now weve got absolutely loads to get through, so lets get cracking. Now could id cards be the way to finally solve the channel migrant crisis 7 solve the channel migrant crisis . Well, it emerged yesterday, theres been an incredible 43 rise in the number of people. Rise in the number of people. Illegally arriving in small boats. Small boats. This year, more than 5000 migrants have crossed the channel so far in 2024. But former home secretary lord told lord David Blunkett told the times reintroduce the times i would reintroduce the idea of id cards because what will happen with rwanda will happen with the rwanda scheme criminals scheme is organised. Criminals will migrants simply not to will tell migrants simply not to claim asylum. Theyll say well get you across to the uk and then ring this number, well get you a job and accommodation and then theyll disappear into the sub economy. And thats the worst of all worlds. And theyll be exposed to mass exploitation. Be exposed to mass exploitation. And then that will affect other people by undercutting genuine workers and also involve modern slavery. You can only solve that if you have a proper identity scheme. Now, that sounds on paper shows your papers like common sense. Well, to discuss this, im now joined in the studio by the associate editor of the daily mirror, Kevin Maguire. Kev, welcome to studio si. My pleasure to see you. This is an old labour idea. You must like it. Yeah it was a it was a conservative party idea. First labour opposed it, then labour proposed it the labour proposed it and the conservatives and conservatives opposed it. And then finally scrapped David Blunketts voluntary scheme. I understand to understand why it appeals to some superficially , but some people superficially, but they other people to show some people superficially, but they papers, fer people to show some people superficially, but they papers, not eople to show some people superficially, but they papers, not themselves ow some people superficially, but they papers, not themselves. N their papers, not themselves. And i think its over promises what it can achieve. I think the money and the effort can be better spent. Id cards existed dunng better spent. Id cards existed during the first world war. The second world war, second world war. They continued for seven years and they were scrapped because people got sick of bureaucrats and Police Officers asking them to show me your papers. Its essentially the bafic papers. Its essentially the basic right of you in britain to leave home without any id on you, if you like, if you want to go out in your swimming trunks or a bikini, you can. You dont have to take your papers to show them when youre challenged. But if the id scheme this time specifically time around was specifically targeted to those arriving via small dinghies or illegally , small dinghies or illegally, then surely it has merit. I dont think this scheme is for everybody in britain to show your papers. If you arrive and youre up by a border youre picked up by a Border Force Patrol at our shores, you have through this system. Have to go through this system. You to be processed anyway. You have to be processed anyway. You have to be processed anyway. You a hotel for you have to get a hotel for free. This would be of free. So this would be part of the and it would prevent the system and it would prevent exploitation. It would prevent slave to like . Yeah, im not sure it would because you would have to be able to enforce it. For instance, moment, if instance, at the moment, if youre employer youre youre an employer or youre a landlord out, you landlord or letting out, you have to check and show youve checked that somebody is entitled to be here and is here legally. You can legally. If you dont, you can be fined very, very few fines. I just dont think people will be producing that. Look, producing cards like that. Look, people are getting on those boats. Theyre not going to flash a card. Theyre getting off the theyre off the boat. Theyre not flashing get off, they flashing a card to get off, they have to have id, they give an official id, youre required. If youre in that position to have id to access services. When id to access services. When youre here, you cant stop people disappearing. Unfortunately unless you imprison them. And people do disappear in the into the economy. But i think the way to police the jobs market and accommodation is through landlords and employers not demanding to see cards. And what if we only gave cards to people coming on those small boats . 30,000 last year, 45,000 the year been this year before has been 5000. This year before has been 5000. This year so far. Thats a very small number of people in a country of 67 million. In fact, net migration was rising by 750,000. Stop the working illegally. Stop the working illegally. Stop the working illegally. Well, you cant you cant work now if youre an asylum seeker. Renee do i actually think thats a mistake . I think we should. If your claim is we should. If your claim is being processed instead of, spending a fortune on putting people up in in hotels and giving 30, £40 a week to giving them 30, £40 a week to exist that would be a people exist on that would be a people smugglers dream. That would be top of the tiktok video. Come to britain guaranteed to work. Thats Kevin Maguire theyre coming now, maguire that theyre coming now, and backhanded compliment. They want to britain. They want to come to britain. They want to come to they normally want to come to britain, get fewer britain, and we get far fewer people than other people seeking asylum than other european countries. Whether youre spain, france, italy, germany, take in far fewer germany, we take in far fewer refugees. But its backhanded refugees. But its a backhanded compliment. They want to come here. Normally want come here. They normally want to come here because they have a family link they speak english, or link or they speak english, or lets be honest , weve been lets be honest, weve been there at some point, either with an empire or military interventions, and they come to work not to claim benefits. Work not to claim benefits. Okay. I want to ask you about another thing as ive got you here, kev, 60 charities, organisations, today organisations, lawyers today have of a have proposed the idea of a ukrainian refugee ukrainian style refugee settlement for settlement scheme for palestinians. I could possibly go wrong. Go wrong. Yeah, well, i can see if you look at gaza, where theres about 2 Million People, there is nowhere in gaza. If you nowhere safe in gaza. If you look at ukraine or a large parts of ukraine that are relatively safe the in safe now, thats not the case in the east. I know you can the east. And i know you can still attacks in but still get attacks in kyiv, but its relatively safe. And people opened welcome opened their homes to welcome people some of people from ukraine, some of whom gone back since. Whom have gone back since. I think be some if think thered be some people if they open their homes they wanted to open their homes to palestinians from gaza. Why not . Because that is a humanitarian crisis. The humanitarian crisis. The government, the government, the uk its uk government admits its a human crisis. Weve seen british aid workers. Theres a massive difference between ukraine palestine. Between ukraine and palestine. For the side for example, were on the side of ukrainians in war, of the ukrainians in war, presumably palestinians coming here a grievance with here might have a grievance with britain because weve ostensibly backed israel and the scheme from ukraine is women and children, because all the men had to stay behind and fight. So you must admit, we dont, if you must admit, if we dont, if we have id cards for we dont have id cards for people come into the country people to come into the country from on are from france, how on earth are we going to the origin or the going to know the origin or the political leanings of those from palestine . Weve had numerous security on this security advisers on this show before saying hamas would, would, chance would, would welcome the chance to civilian to melt into civilian population, be welcomed into britain. Yeah. Does not export yeah. Hamas does not export violence to the wider world. Yes. Theres real issue with yes. Theres a real issue with israel as we saw with the pogrom, the horrific slaughter of people on october the of jewish people on october the 7th, but not the wider, not the wider world. And in fact, youd have to apply for a visa which has happened in ukraine. You have give all sorts of have to give all sorts of detailed information detailed personal information so you you can be tracked. You can be you can be tracked. So youd welcome Palestinian Refugees to britain. Yeah i would, just wonder if the would, and i just wonder if the difference that , palestinians difference is that, palestinians tend muslims, not of tend to be muslims, not all of them, but they tend to be muslims. While ukrainians werent. No that werent. Theres no doubt that in britain im afraid there is a real and its real islamophobia. And its pretty rooted. Pretty deep rooted. Peoples resistance you think peoples resistance to who could be to palestinians who could be members of hamas, for all we know, isnt because of terrorists, its because of islamophobia. Hamas is different, but if youre just a palestinian who they are, we wouldnt have. Wed have no idea who these palestinians are. Itd be impossible to judge. You do it with yeah, well, if you do it with women children, i mean, women and children, i mean, hamas male dominated hamas is a pretty male dominated organisation in the way its structured the structured and the and the hierarchy. Look, you know, when hierarchy. Look, you know, when you when welcome people into you when you welcome people into your country, whether theyre tourists on business, your country, whether theyre tourists in on business, your country, whether theyre tourists in as on business, your country, whether theyre tourists in as asylum jsiness, your country, whether theyre tourists in as Asylum Seekers , coming in as Asylum Seekers, coming in as Asylum Seekers, coming as refugees, never coming as refugees, you never know 100. That is true. But the vast majority of people who come to britain are very law abiding, want to their life here and want to make their life here and contribute enormously our contribute enormously to our society, and economy. Society, culture and economy. Kevin maguire, great start to the show. Thank you very much for popping into the studio. Always now, gb always appreciated. Now, gb news believes the Foreign Office understands british understands at least two british aid workers were killed by an air strike in gaza. Rishi sunak says questions need to be answered after the horrific incident , answered after the horrific incident, and the answered after the horrific incident , and the Israel Defence incident, and the Israel Defence forces has expressed the deepest condolences to the families of seven people who died last night. Well, joining me now is our home and security editor, marc white. Marc, welcome to the show. Whats the latest on this horrific situation . Horrific situation . Well, the Foreign Office still investigating how many british nationals may have been killed in this missile strike. It may be up to three, but they believe, at least for now, that two british nationals have been killed. A confusing situation on the ground and one thats deeply embarrassing. Of course, for the Israeli Military, who have come out now and admitted that this was an unintended missile strike that took place. This charity , that took place. This charity, world central kitchen, a us based charity, has a Good Relationship with the Israeli Government. Theyve been working with them closely in recent months in delivering vital aid suppues months in delivering vital aid supplies and food to people in gaza and have been most of the time, well, all of the time, according to the charity, liaising with the Israeli Military to let them know exactly where they are to minimise the chance of any kind of mishap. However, the circumstances are now under investigation. Weve heard from british Prime Minister rishi sunak about the news of british casualties, and he said he was shocked and saddened. Im shocked and saddened to hear the reported deaths of aid workers in gaza. Were urgently workers in gaza. Were urgently working to confirm all the details, but my thoughts right now are with their friends and family. Theyre doing fantastic work bringing alleviation to the suffering that many experiencing in gaza. They should be praised and commended for what theyre doing. They need to be allowed to do that work unhindered, and its incumbent on israel to make sure that they do that. And sure that they can do that. And were israel to were asking israel to investigate what happened urgently , because clearly there urgently, because clearly there are need to be are questions that need to be answered. Our view is answered. You know, our view is long standing that israel has both and both the intention and the ability to comply with International Humanitarian law. Ive very clear to ive made that very clear to Prime Minister netanyahu whenever to him. Whenever ive spoken to him. There have been too many civilian deaths in gaza. Of civilian deaths in gaza. Of course, we want to see an immediate humanitarian pause so that we can get the hostages out and more aid into the region. Now well, one of the reasons why this is so deeply uncomfortable for the Israeli Government and its military is because of the Good Relationship it has had with this charity and other charities that its trying to actively encourage to take over actively encourage to take over a lot of the aid supplies in gaza, because , of course, israel gaza, because, of course, israel is in a very difficult position with the Un Aid Agency in gaza, unrwa, who they have claimed of employing 2000 members of hamas. And for some of those employees to have been actively involved in the massacre on october the 7th. So israel has been full of praise for these other charities and actively encouraging them. You could tell this by the Israeli Military spokesman daniel hagari, in just how fulsome in his praise he was for this charity. As he explained this charity. As he explained what happened, we are committed to examining our operations thoroughly and transparently. Thoroughly and transparently. For the last few months, the idf has been working closely with the world central kitchen to assist them in fulfilling their Noble Mission of helping bnng their Noble Mission of helping bring food and humanitarian aid to the people of gaza. Sukh also to the people of gaza. Sukh also came to help israelis after the massacre of october 7th. They were one of the first ngos here. The work of sukh is critical. They are the front lines of humanity. We will get to the bottom of this and we will share our findings to transparently. Our findings to transparently. So while this incident is being actively investigated now by the Israeli Military , there by the Israeli Military, there is real concern about what this means for the continued aid suppues means for the continued aid supplies that are so vitally neededin supplies that are so vitally needed in gaza because as both the charity at the centre of this tragedy, another us charity, have decided to suspend their operations in gaza and aid supply ship that was heading to the gaza strip has now turned round , so there will be urgent round, so there will be urgent discussions between the israelis and these charities to try to get this , aid shipment back on get this, aid shipment back on course again to help the beleaguered people in this enclave. Enclave. Mark white, thank you very much for that update. As many as three british aid workers killed in gaza, thank you very much. In gaza, thank you very much. Now moving on. Its our biggest giveaway of the year so far. 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On the 26th of april. Full terms and Privacy Notice at gbnews. Com forward slash win. Please check the closing time if listening or watching on demand. Good luck i watching on demand. Good luck now rishi sunak has backed jk rowling after she criticised scotlands controversial new hate crime laws. The harry potter author has challenged police there to arrest her. Im Martin Daubney on gb news, britains news channel. Welcome back. Its 325. Im Martin Daubney , and this is gb news. Daubney, and this is gb news. Now, later in the show, ill tell you why. Residents have tell you why. Residents have declared war on british holidaymakers who they say only dnnk holidaymakers who they say only drink cheap beer, lay in the sun and eat low quality food. When do i go . Now to the ongoing row do i go . Now to the ongoing row about scotlands controversial new hate crime legislation. Rishi sunak has backed jk rowling after she criticised the new law , and the harry potter new law, and the harry potter author has appeared to challenge police to arrest her if her social media posts are against the new laws. While rowling is a fierce critic of the Scottish Governments stance. Of course, on transgender rights, jk rowling repeated her views in a lengthy post on x, formerly known as twitter, which ended with the comment im currently out of the country, but if what ive written here qualifies as an offence under the terms of the new act, then i look forward to being arrested when i return to being arrested when i return to the birthplace of the scottish enlightenment. Tongue firmly in cheek. Now, joining me now to discuss this is our reporter in scotland, tony maguire. Tony, welcome to the show, tony. It all kicked off yesterday when the laws came in on april fools day of all days. But now the laughter has subsided. Things are getting fruity with jk rowling. Fruity with jk rowling. Yes indeed. Certainly jk rowling has come out quite strong on twitter yesterday or xl bully, formerly known as twitter, but you know that 11 page or that 11 post message that she put out and naming various high profile transgender women across scotland and the various ways that she was almost purposefully misgendering them. And, you know, some are accusing her of. But certainly, you know, i think she probably knows herself that shes okay. Shes not going to get arrested. You know, the Equality Network put out quite a lengthy, interesting post kind of delving deep into what actually constitutes a hate crime and what police are going to be sifting through these reports for. And that is indeed reports for. And that is indeed things that make people feel concerned for their safety and concerned for their safety and concerned for their safety and concerned for their, their their safety in public places, be it in groups or whatever. Now, today has been quite interesting. Weve seen how fast this pubuc. Weve seen how fast this Public Discourse has moved. Yesterday there was a lot of angerin yesterday there was a lot of anger in those images outside holyrood. Today, i think everyones kind of left with a bit of confusion. I spoke to a lot of the general public earlier on just to get, you know , a sense of primarily how they felt about the extreme felt about the most extreme scenario about, you know, conversations dinner conversations around the dinner table or the living room and how they felt about Police Actually looking into them and, and investigating things said in their homes. Their own homes. I dont think so. I dont think so. I dont think so. I think, quite honestly, the police got enough to do. I police have got enough to do. I think at this moment in time they even enough they dont even have enough time to serious to investigate more serious crimes burglaries, so crimes like burglaries, etc. So i think theyve got enough to do, and i think its just a wee bit too far. Definitely it is, bit too far. Are initely it is, bit too far. Are we . Ly it is, bit too far. Are we . We it is, bit too far. Are we . We wouldnt like to yes. Are we . We wouldnt like to be censored in our own home. No. Im going to get a t shirt printed which says are the four most dangerous words in scotland. What do you think . Thats it. What do you think . Thats it. I think its going to take too much time for the police to go and try and do anything like that. To me its a waste of time, but thats just me. Itsjust but thats just me. Its just exactly the same opinion. No, i dont think so. No, its too time consuming. The police have far many police have got far too many things getting on with. Things to be getting on with. So obviously todays big story was that rishi sunak , story was that rishi sunak, well, he came out in support of free speech and jk rowlings stance. An easy win for the stance. An easy win for the conservatives, what with all scott, scottish labour and snp msps voting for the bill. But you know, this conversation is far from over up here. Tony mcguire, thanks for that update live from edinburgh. And joining me now is the former senior investigating officer at the metropolitan police, simon harding. Simon welcome to the show. We heard from a Cross Section of the public up in scotland who are quite simply saying theres no time for this. 6 of burglaries are currently solved. Why on earth is a government inventing new crimes when its failing to solve existing crimes . Existing crimes . Well, yeah. Well, yeah. And its putting a lot of pressure again on the police, isnt it . I mean, you saw there that one member of public said one member of the public said its enough. Its confused enough. So what that any so what makes that any difference a Police Officer difference to a Police Officer who lands on desk who this lands on their desk where somebody , you know, where somebody, you know, feelings are, you know, in this way, the Police Officers got to make their own subjective test against whats being said. You know, especially around what jk rowling was talking about, misgendering. I mean, you know, we are sort of talking about , you know, the ability to about, you know, the ability to freedom of speech and, you know, people putting their opinion across if across about something, and if that goes into our living rooms as well, obviously around a dinner table, then then that really is an intrusion that the police feel police will, will feel incredibly uncomfortable about as im sure. And, and, you as well, im sure. And, and, you know, in my opinion as well, well want to deal with those other things which public well want to deal with those othe|asiings which public well want to deal with those othe|as theirwhich public well want to deal with those othe|as their priorities. Public well want to deal with those othe|as their priorities. You. Ic hold as their priorities. You know, scotland, especially , know, in scotland, especially, you burglary and you know, like burglary and things so think things like that. So i think its a it very its a very it is very confusing, but it also is very subjective to the officer deaung subjective to the officer dealing with it or the, or the police force in an area, you know, is it, is it going to be consistency around Decision Making . All that sort of thing consistency around decision m going all that sort of thing consistency around decision m going to l that sort of thing consistency around decision m going to come sort of thing consistency around decision m going to come out of thing consistency around decision m going to come out and hing consistency around decision m going to come out and beg is going to come out and be very, know, testing for the very, you know, testing for the police time. Police at this time. Simon, we often hear that and simon, we often hear that some Police Officers, they like this authority that this this new authority that this kind of law gives them. But im assuming majority of assuming the vast majority of rank and file Police Officers just saying, oh my goodness, im expected to go policing expected to go around policing peoples tweets. Think peoples tweets. They must think its a complete headache and a nightmare for operationally i well, it is absolutely. And its an impossible task, isnt it . Really. What do you think . How many millions of tweets and messages and, you know, different forums that we have on the internet where people are going put their opinion going to put their opinion across own personal across their own personal opinion. And were were almost saying in that in that area of the uk that were going to take that opinion away from you. Youre allowed have that youre not allowed to have that opinion i think opinion anymore. And i think police will Police Officers have said will feel but the feel very uncomfortable. But the other part of this really is as well is that, you know, its absolutely right to you absolutely right to have, you know, of, know, hate crimes in terms of, you know , monitoring them. And you know, monitoring them. And the police have said that, you know, to monitor them. The police have said that, you know should to monitor them. The police have said that, you know should do to monitor them. The police have said that, you know should do because tor them. The police have said that, you know should do because you hem. The police have said that, you know should do because you want they should do because you want to patterns emerge to see crime patterns emerge against ethnicities to see crime patterns emerge ag groups ethnicities to see crime patterns emerge ag groups in ethnicities to see crime patterns emerge ag groups in societyicities to see crime patterns emerge ag groups in society to ies to see crime patterns emerge ag groups in society to make or groups in society to make sure that you can deal sure that you can you can deal with that. But this is going to make huge area of confusion make it a huge area of confusion for everybody to understand, you know, do i need to investigate this . And what if i if i say this . And what if i if i say this one does need investigating, but this one doesnt . I think its going to be very, very confusing from now on. I think you nailed it perfectly there, simon harding. Time again, the public time and time again, the public say bobbies on the say we want more bobbies on the beat, were policing beat, and now were policing tweets instead policing tweets instead of policing the streets. Much for streets. Thank you very much for joining us on the show. Now, theres lots more still to come before 4 00. And discuss before 4 00. And ill discuss claims that 10 million brits are allegedly addicted to junk food. As the obesity crisis cost the nhs a staggering £15 billion every single year. Are we addicted or should we just eat less cake . But first, theres your latest News Headlines with sam francis. Sam francis. Martin, thank you and good afternoon. From the newsroom. The headlines just after 3 30. Israel has now admitted its forces were behind the unintended killing of seven aid workers in gaza, including three british citizens. The israeli Prime Minister, benjamin netanyahu, says officials are now checking the incident thoroughly following International Calls for a full investigation in the group. Killed were travelling in two armoured cars marked with the world central kitchen logo that ngo claims the attack was carried out despite them coordinating their movements with the military. Those killed with the military. Those killed also include palestinians and people from australia, poland and the us. Israels defence minister says a joint situation room will now be opened with International Groups to facilitate the delivery of aid with the military. A 12 year old with the military. A 12 year old child has been killed and two other children are in a serious condition after a shooting carried out by another child at a Primary School in finland. Its understood the permit for that handgun belonging to the child was actually of the relative of the suspect, police say. The 12 year old has admitted to carrying out the shooting, but the circumstances are not yet clear. The prime are not yet clear. The Prime Minister is backing jk rowling after she criticised a new hate crime law in scotland. It came into effect yesterday and bans hatred against people on certain grounds. But the author says it risks silencing genuine debate on issues around gender and womens rights. Rishi sunak backs those concerns, saying that people should not be criminalised for stating simple facts on biology. And the facts on biology. And the government is facing criticism of its new plan to expand funded childcare for working parents. In the first week of it being rolled out across england, meeting parents in hartlepool this morning, the Prime Minister rejected claims that nurseries cant cope with increasing demand as a result of that new policy. Rishi sunak says the package of support for families has been introduced in stages to give time for more places to be made available. Thats the made available. Thats the latest from the newsroom. Polly middlehurst will be up next at 4 00 with the latest headlines. In the meantime, you can sign up to gb news alerts by scanning the code on your screen, or go to gb news. Common alerts. To gb news. Common alerts. For stunning gold and silver coins, youll always value rosalind gold proudly sponsors the gb news financial report. The gb news financial report. And heres a look at the markets this afternoon. The pound will buy you 1. 2570 and ,1. 1670. The price of gold is £1,808. 51 per ounce, and the ftse 100 is currently at 7946 points. Rosalind gold proudly sponsors the gb news financial report. Report. Thank you sam. Now were still waiting to find out when the next general election will be, but tories are already looking ahead to how theyll react to a defeat. Its claimed one group wants to install a liz truss style candidate who apparently isnt liz truss, to replace rishi sunak. If or when they lose power. Im Martin Daubney on gb gb news is the home of free speech. We were created to champion it, and we deliver it. Day in, day out. Free speech allows us all to explore and debate openly the issues most to us. Issues most important to us. Families , and of course, our families, and of course, the british people having challenging conversations to enlighten each other. Which is why we hear all sides the argument. Sides of the argument. The peoples channel. We are the peoples channel. We are the peoples channel. Will always stand by the we will always stand by the freedom to express yourself on tv , radio and online. Tv, radio and online. This is gb news, britains news channel. News channel. Welcome back. Its 339. Is your time. Im Martin Daubney your time. Im Martin Daubney and this is gb news. Now, later in the show, well discuss another woke rebrand of a flag and this time team gbs union jack has turned pink and purple on a supporters flag for this years olympics. Is it a union years olympics. Is it a union joke . Now, rishi sunak has defended the governments flagship childcare policy and dismissed concerns over whether the nursery sector has enough places and staff to even cope with it. And the Prime Minister visited a nursery in hartlepool this morning to mark the first day when families in england benefited from 15 hours of taxpayer funded care for two year olds. Well, im joined now by gb news Political Correspondent katherine forster. Catherine, welcome to the show. Catherine, welcome to the show. Always a pleasure to see you. Childcare and of course, many, many voters very, very anxious about. Many voters very, very anxious about. Its expensive. Its about. Its expensive. Its very, very tough to get a space for your kid in the first place. I know that from bitter experience. Will this new scheme make things easier for make things any easier for beleaguered parents . Well, it certainly will if the places are available. I think its worth saying that this is as the government says , this is as the government says, a very, very big deal indeed, because as of now , working because as of now, working parents qualify for 15 hours a week for two year olds and above that will be extend to babies from nine months old from september. By next september, september. By next september, youll be able to get 30 hours Free Childcare for children from nine months old right through until they start school. If youre a working parent. Now the government is saying thats going to save families up to £6,900 a year. So a huge amount of money. However, however , of money. However, however, labour party and lots of nursery providers are saying that this has not been properly funded and that there simply are not the places available. Now the governments making a big noise about, you can sign on and get this code to entitle you to this free care. Theyre saying free care. Theyre saying theyre expecting 150,000 people to activate this within the next few days, but getting the code is one thing. But actually securing that place at a nursery or Childcare Provider near you is quite another, because plenty of nurseries saying that its not being properly funded, that theyre already operating at a loss on the places that theyre are giving and many of them are full and many of them are also saying that theyre thinking they may go out of business in they may go out of business in the next year. Now, rishi sunak says, basically, trust me, its all going to be okay, labour party says its going to be a disaster. We wont have very long to find out what actually happens. And, catherine, you know, when this came in the first time around, in 2015, David Cameron gave 30 hours of Free Childcare. Thats where my first nipper went to nursery. What happened was the prices went through the roof. You couldnt get a space anyway because everybody was competing for a limited resource. I digress , call me a resource. I digress, call me a cynic. Moving on, the conservative party are already looking forward to their next leader after their impending defeat, if you believe them. At any rate, the pop cons , the any rate, the pop cons, the popular conservatives saying a liz truss style leader who by the sounds of it, isnt liz truss. Exactly. Well, i think liz truss , even liz truss, whos not truss, even liz truss, whos not particularly troubled by self doubt , must realise that, self doubt, must realise that, shes not going to be elected to lead the conservatives after she lasted all of seven weeks as Prime Minister. But yes, some of her supporters, Mark Littlewood , her supporters, Mark Littlewood, who used to lead the institute of economic affairs, a big fan of economic affairs, a big fan of liz truss and others, are plotting to get somebody who is of a free market liberty bent to lead the conservatives after their presumed loss at the next general election. Theyre general election. Theyre thinking possibly, that they might like former home secretary priti patel, who has been going a little bit under the radar of late. But making friends and quietly, building support. So lets see what happens. But of course, they havent lost the next election yet. And its not particularly helpful given that people tend not to vote for divided parties for this to be coming out now, because rather than, plotting whos going to be in charge after they lose the next election, if indeed they do, it might be more helpful to try to put forward something of a united front. Thats something that, lord hague of course, a big supporter of rishi sunak and rishi sunak, took what used to be lord hagues seat is saying, basically, lets focus on coming together and fighting the election and showing people around in the country what were doing right and what we can offer them, rather than worrying about what comes afterwards. About what comes afterwards. Katherine forster great stuff. And in fact, well have Mark Littlewood of the popular conservatives, the head honcho on in the 5 00 hour. On the show in the 5 00 hour. And the funny thing about this, catherine, its going to take 70 conservative to get this off conservative mps to get this off the ground. Well, there might be only with after the next only left with 80 after the next general lots of general election. Lots of questions. Katherine questions to ask. Katherine forster a pleasure and forster always a pleasure and never. Now britains never a chore. Now britains obesity crisis is so bad that some doctors want food addiction to be classed as dangerous as alcohol and drugs. All just eat less cake. I Martin Daubney on gb news, britains news channel. Im Patrick Christys every weeknight from nine, i bring you two hours of unmissable, explosive debate and headline grabbing interviews. What impact has that had . What impact has that had . We got Death Threats and the bomb threat and so on. Our job is to do whats in ourjob is to do whats in the best interest of our country. You made my argument for me one at a time. My guests and i tackle the issues that really matter with a sharp take story im sharp take on every story im heanng sharp take on every story im hearing up and down the country. Was beginning, an that was a beginning, not an end. Patrick christys tonight from 9 gb news, 9 pm. Only on gb news, britains channel. Britains news channel. Welcome back, and lets bring you some breaking news now. And three british nationals were killed in yesterdays unintended israeli airstrike in gaza. And thats according to the charity the volunteers worked for work world central kitchen confirmed seven of its workers were killed on monday night when their car was struck by a missile in their al balah in gaza. In addition to the three britons, aid workers from poland, australia and palestine were killed, along with a dual us and canadian citizen. Now, britains obesity citizen. Now, britains obesity crisis is now so bad that doctors are pushing for food addiction to be classed as dangerous as drink and drugs. Reports suggest more than 10 million brits are feared to be hooked on junk food. The cost of obesity to the uk is said to be £58 billion every single year. And joining me now to discuss this is the former presenter of fat families and friend of the show, the deliciously outspoken steve miller. Steve, welcome to steve miller. Steve, welcome to the show. Always a pleasure. Ill be really addicted to fast food or simply have no self control or agency. Nice intro and good to be on your plate, what i would say is that, you know, there are there are some people that do potentially have a theoretically have an addiction, but the vast majority of people do not have an addiction. We love throwing this word around. They are falling into bad habits. You know, if people , had habits. You know, if people, had an addiction, theyd be smashing down doors to grab the chocolate bars. I mean, you have a real dependency , i think. Its not dependency, i think. Its not addiction. Its definitely more about bad habits. Addiction. Its definitely more about bad habits. And frankly, about bad habits. And frankly, in the uk, and i know some people dont like me saying this sort of stuff, but we need a good kick up the backside, actually, and we need to start waking up and thinking about what were putting in the trolley. And, yes, it can be a challenge. Im not saying its, you know, its easy peasy, but, pudding and pie use the porn, but, you know , there is always but, you know, there is always something we can do about it. So the, the, i guess my message is this is that start taking responsibility , start being more responsibility, start being more consciously aware of what youre doing. Do not ditch junk. Doing. Do not ditch junk. Totally. Always have a little bit of what you fancy, but moderate. So youre living 80 over 20 and, you know , i and i over 20 and, you know, i and i do relate to this because there was a time when i would go to the supermarket and tell you the supermarket and i tell you what, to get home when what, i used to get home when i was a real i was much fatter than i am now. And i would get home and id literally look in the and say the mirror and id say to myself, well, this little piggy went seriously, went to market seriously, because. I would pile because i did. I would just pile it trolley, all the it all in the trolley, all the cake the bickies and all of cake and the bickies and all of that of stuff. That sort of stuff. You know whats interesting about this, steve, is that theyre pushing for theyre about this, steve, is that theyre 20 pushing for theyre about this, steve, is that theyre 20 of shing for theyre about this, steve, is that theyre 20 of adults or theyre about this, steve, is that theyre 20 of adults are 1eyre saying 20 of adults are addicted ultra processed fat addicted to ultra processed fat foods, theyre pushing for foods, and theyre pushing for an addiction an International Food addiction consensus conference. And of course, they want World Health Organisation buy in. Steve am i cynically thinking here that if we start pathologizing things and then what will happen is there will be medical is the next thing you know, well all be on fat jabs and this will be a huge big Pharma Industry once again going to medicines, pills, pofions again going to medicines, pills, potions and jabs rather than just saying take control. Oh yeah, well all be like lab rats, literally lardy lab rats. Rats, literally lardy lab rats. Thats what well become if were not careful. Oh, and it is. Youre right to raise this because it does give people an excuse , doesnt it . You know. Excuse, doesnt it . You know. Oh, im an addict. No youre not. Youve just fallen bad not. Youve just fallen into bad habits. Yourself together. Habits. Pull yourself together. We of that we need a bit more of that message in the uk, as well as an arm the shoulder as well. Arm around the shoulder as well. I all that. But yes, i get all of that. But yes, excuses are very calorific. So what i say to people as well is, are you actually making too many excuses . Isnt time that you excuses . Isnt it time that you move forward and, you know, just did a little bit of something for yourself. And, and actually we recognise that we do need to recognise that this is a mindset and motivation challenge for people. People challenge for people. People know what to eat, to be slim. You know, all of this nutrition talk about how many, you know, protein in this and carbs in that. Protein in this and carbs in that. Now thats all codswallop that. Now thats all codswallop now all the head. So now its all in the head. So what weve got to do when i talk about the head, what that also means is we have to be quite tough strong about it, tough about it, strong about it, as well as being very kind to ourselves along way, telling ourselves along the way, telling ourselves along the way, telling ourselves yes, we are too ourselves that, yes, we are too gorgeous fat and its time gorgeous to be fat and its time to sort it out. And its time in the uk, we have that sort of message. Got a bit more blunt about it. Like the japanese do. Super serve a svelte steve miller, always with full fat opinions. Miller, always with full fat opinions. Thank you very much for coming on the show, steve. Always an absolute pleasure. Now got a couple of quick emails to get through before the end of the hour. We asked about id cards. Is that the answer for the fact cant control our the fact we cant control our borders . Weve had hundreds borders . And weve had hundreds of on this as well of emails on this as well as should have palestine should we have a palestine refugee scheme that, refugee scheme later on that, but cards. Helen but first on id cards. Helen says this make it voluntary for everybody, but if you opt out and you cannot qualify for benefits or nhs services , benefits or nhs services, genuine Asylum Seekers will soon opt in. Mark my words , criminals opt in. Mark my words, criminals and economic migrants will opt out. Dave says this quickly id cards should be essential. Most cards should be essential. Most of the time you would not have to show it, but it will stop all the corruption in voting and Workforce Police checks. Am Workforce Police checks. I am sure most this country would sure most in this country would willingly them. Thank you willingly accept them. Thank you very much for those emails. Plenty of those. More to come after this, because almost 60 groups are calling for Palestinian Refugees in gaza, with this to with family in this country to be allowed to move to the uk. Is that a good idea . Im Martin Daubney on gb news, britains news channel. Now your news channel. Now its your weather burkill. Weather with alex burkill. A brighter outlook with boxt solar sponsors of weather on. Gb news. Hello. Welcome to your latest gb news weather update brought to you by the met office. Across some central southern parts. There will be a bit of sunshine tomorrow, but otherwise its looking pretty wet and theres some come tonight as some rain to come tonight as well. Thats because we have an area low pressure the area of low pressure to the southwest us, that is southwest of us, and that is driving feature northwards as driving a feature northwards as we through the rest of today. We go through the rest of today. So ending day across parts so ending the day across parts of Northern Ireland, Northern England on a mostly dry note. But in the southwest will but rain in the southwest will feed across much of feed its way across much of england, wales and into Northern Ireland some ireland overnight, with some persistent rain continuing across eastern parts of scotland, bringing a of hill scotland, bringing a bit of hill snow over the Higher Ground here, dropping here, temperatures not dropping much many of us because of much for many of us because of the unsettled weather. Although a is possible a touch of frost is possible across the far north of scotland, areas then waking scotland, many areas then waking up tomorrow morning to a pretty wet start and staying wet across northern parts, with some further, times heavy and further, at times heavy and persistent rain further south, though a drier picture. Yes, though a drier picture. Yes, there will be a few showers around, but we should also see some bright or sunny spells developing in any sunshine. Developing in any sunshine. Feeling pleasantly warm. Highs of 16 celsius but colder of around 16 celsius but colder further north and feeling it in the wet and the windy weather here later. On the wet and the windy weather here later. On as we go through tomorrow afternoon into the evening, a swathe of more persistent rain is going to affect parts of devon, cornwall persistent rain is going to affeiinto rts of devon, cornwall persistent rain is going to affeiinto south devon, cornwall persistent rain is going to affeiinto south Wales Cornwall persistent rain is going to affeiinto south wales as rnwall persistent rain is going to affeiinto south wales as well. And into south wales as well. Looking ahead through the rest of the and the unsettled of the week and the unsettled picture remain. It picture does remain. In fact, it is likely turn very windy by is likely to turn very windy by the of the week, but the end of the week, but temperatures get to temperatures rising could get to 20 saturday. By that 20 celsius by saturday. By that warm from boxt warm feeling inside from boxt boilers, weather on gb news. A very good afternoon to you. Its 4 pm. Welcome to the Martin Daubney show on gb news. Broadcasting live from the heart of westminster. All across the uk. In todays show, ill get reaction to calls for palestinians in gaza to be allowed to move to the uk. If theyve got family here, what could possibly go wrong with that . Well have a Counter Terror expert discussing that soon. And j. K. Rowling has challenged police to arrest her as the row over scotlands controversial new hate crime laws, introduced on april the 1st, rumbles on, and rishi sunak has today backed the harry potter author. Some tories are already planning for life without mr sunak. One group is without mr sunak. One group is said to want to replace him with a liz truss style leader who apparently isnt liz truss. And another day, another row about a flag being rebranded. This time, team gb has changed the union jack. It now contains shades of pink and purple. Is it a union joke thats all coming up in your next hour . Welcome to the show. Its always an absolute pleasure to have your company right after the news. Debate news. Weve got the big debate of today. Should we adopt a ukrainian style Refugee Resettlement plan . But for palestine lions, 60 charities, organisations, lawyers and activists think thats a good idea. Ill speak to a Counter Terrorism expert who says it might not the best solution. Might not be the best solution. After all, no arabian countries are prepared to take them. Why should we . Is that a problem waiting to happen . Youve got time to get your views across. Still time. Email me gbviews gbnews. Com. But first, lets kick off this hour with your latest News Headlines with polly middlehurst. Martin, thank you and good afternoon to you. Well, the top story from the newsroom is that israel has admitted that its forces were behind whats being described as an unintended killing of seven aid workers in gaza, including three british nationals. The israeli Prime Minister, benjamin netanyahu, says officials are now checking the thoroughly amid the incident thoroughly amid International Calls for a full investigation. The group killed investigation. The group killed were travelling in two armoured cars marked with the world central kitchen logo. The aid central kitchen logo. The aid group claims the attack was carried out despite them coordinating their movements with the Israeli Military. In a Statement Released in the last few minutes, the labour leader, sir keir starmer says international upheld sir keir starmer says inteihumanitarian upheld sir keir starmer says inteihumanitarian workers upheld sir keir starmer says inteihumanitarian workers mustld sir keir starmer says inteihumanitarian workers must be and humanitarian workers must be protected. And speaking earlier, rishi sunak called for a full investigation. Investigation. Shocked and saddened to hear the reported deaths of aid workers in gaza. Were urgently working to confirm all the details, but my thoughts right now are with their friends and family. Theyre doing fantastic work bringing alleviation to the suffering that many are experiencing in gaza. They should be praised and commended for what theyre doing. They need to be allowed to do that work and its work unhindered. And its incumbent israel to make sure incumbent on israel to make sure that they can do that. And were asking israel to investigate what happened because what happened urgently, because clearly questions that clearly there are questions that need. Need to be answered. Prime minister is well, the Prime Minister is backing the harry potter author j. K. Rowling after she criticised a new hate crime law thats come into being in scotland. The law was introduced scotland. The law was introduced yesterday and seeks to ban hatred against people on certain grounds. But the author says it risks silencing genuine debate on issues around gender, as well asignonng on issues around gender, as well as ignoring the rights of women and girls. Rishi sunak has and girls. Rishi sunak has backed her concerns, saying that people shouldnt be criminalised for stating simple facts on biology. Shadow minister pat mcfadden told gb news this morning that labour has no plans to introduce similar laws. To introduce similar laws. We want proper enforcement of the anti hate crime laws that are there and make sure that the right penalties are in place to protect people. Were not planning to legislate for new crimes in this area and i dont think jk rowling should be arrested. Pat mcfadden well, lets turn our attentions to finland now , where the country finland now, where the country will observe a day of mourning tomorrow after a 12 Year Old Girl was killed and two others were seriously wounded in a shooting that was carried out by another child at a Primary School north of helsinki. School north of helsinki. Its understood a permit for the handgun that was used belonged to a relative of the suspect. And police are saying the 12 year old suspect has admitted carrying out the shooting. But the circumstances shooting. But the circumstances surrounding what exactly happened and not yet clear. Surrounding what exactly happened and not yet clear. The happened and not yet clear. The sports group adidas says it will redesign its german football shirts featuring the number 44, amid concerns over a resemblance to the ss nazi symbol. The new kits were launched last month ahead of a germany hosting the European Championship, but a historian flagged similarities with the logo for the ss, which was of course , a nazi was of course, a nazi Paramilitary Organisation. The countrys Football Association says it didnt spot the similarities when the design was initially approved, but it will now be changed. The governments faced some criticism today of its new plan to expand funded childcare for working parents. On the first week of it being rolled out across england, meeting parents in hartlepool this morning, the Prime Minister had to reject claims that nurseries cant cope with increasing demand as a result of his new policy. Rishi sunak said the package of support for families has been introduced in stages to give more time for places to be made available at nurseries. Prices in shops are rising at the slowest rate for two years. Thats according to new figures out today. In march, shop prices were up 1. 3. Thats slowing from 2. 5 in february. The British Retail Consortium says discounts on popular easter treats and essentials, as well as promotions on electricals and clothing , have helped keep those clothing, have helped keep those pnces clothing, have helped keep those prices down. Now, if you have ever gone incognito while using the internet on googles chrome browser, your private information still may have been stored by the tech giant. But now, thanks to a Us Court Ruling, google will be forced to delete all private user data, which was not supposed to have been tracked despite the case being filed in the us. The judgement will also apply internationally, including here internationally, including here in the uk. Dougal google rather dismissed the merits the dismissed the merits of the case, saying that it involved only technical data that was only old technical data that was Never Associated with individuals. Thats the news. Individuals. Thats the news. For the latest stories, do sign up to gb news alerts. Scan that qr code on your screen right now, or go to gb news. Com slash alerts. Alerts. Thank you polly. Now we start with calls for Palestinian Refugees in gaza, with family in this country to be allowed to move to the uk. Almost 60 groups, including the Refugee Council and care for calais , council and care for calais, want home secretary James Cleverly to start a ukraine style visa scheme. Around 174,000 ukrainian refugees moved to the uk after russias invasion in february 2022. An authorities in gaza say more than 30,000 people have been killed in the territory since hamas attacked israel on the 7th of october. Well, join me now to discuss. This is former senior military Intelligence Officer philip ingram. Philip, welcome philip ingram. Philip, welcome to the show. We have no idea who currently comes into britain over the channel. We know full well that there is a wall in gaza. Its a wall that ostensibly britain has taken the Opposing Side on by backing israel. We know that in 1992, when 321 Palestinian Refugees were taken to denmark, 64 of them went on to have criminal records. What could possibly go wrong . Philip with bringing these people to britain . Well with hamas, inexorably integrated into the population, it would be very difficult to identify whos who is hamas and who isnt hamas. And thats the reason why this argument and this cry is, you know, its academic completely because the Palestinian People inside gaza cant get out. They cant get out because the egyptians arent letting them across the border because of hamass links to, the Muslim Brotherhood and the egypt doesnt want Palestinian Refugees in its country , no refugees in its country, no other arab country wants Palestinian Refugees in there because of their historical links into causing disruption. And then the only other ways that they could potentially get out is, is through israel and israel is not going to let palestinians come out through their borders to go elsewhere. So, you know, its great these organisations saying we should allow this. Theyre doing it merely to make noise. Merely to make noise. Yeah. And the ukrainian scheme, of course, is very , very scheme, of course, is very, very different. We were fighting on the same side. We culturally the same side. We culturally have a lot in common and lets not forget it was only women and children because the men, of course, have conscription age at least had to remain behind to fight the truth of the matter is, philip, we have absolutely no clue who we were letting into the country. And its absolutely within the realms of possibility that would specifically that hamas would specifically and deliberately place individuals within this civilian group to try and cause us harm , group to try and cause us harm, surely, oh, 100. Theyd try and do that, and hamas would stop lots of legitimate, individuals wanting to get out. That is, of those individuals you have got the paperwork that would need to be able to prove , that theyve got able to prove, that theyve got these links and everything else. And of course, weve got no consular, access into gaza. So again, yeah, its great these groups making all these calls and causing all the, all this noise. But, you know , nobodys noise. But, you know, nobodys thought it through. Theres no practical solution to it whatsoever. The situations are whatsoever. The situations are completely different. And the threat the uk, by allowing threat to the uk, by allowing people in who we cannot necessarily confirm exactly who they are, its too great, far too great. And philip, we had Kevin Maguire in from the mirror earlier on. He was saying, well, why not have an identical scheme where women and children are allowed concerned about allowed for concerned about hamas military aged men, as it were. That still carry were. But does that still carry risks . I mean, terrorist comes in, come in all shapes and sizes, dont they . Yeah, yeah, weve got, you know, look at shamima begum, who went off to join isis, one of the most horrible, horrible terrorist organisations that there is in the, in the world. You women are it can you know, women are it can equally be members of terror organisations and carry out things. But its the practicalities of it. You know, hamas let the out. Hamas wont let the people out. Eqypt hamas wont let the people out. Egypt wont the people into egypt wont let the people into eqypt egypt wont let the people into egypt processed. Israel egypt to be processed. Israel wont the people into israel wont let the people into israel to be processed. And weve got no consular access into gaza whatsoever. So theres no way theres no mechanism in place at theres no mechanism in place at the moment for, a visa scheme to be put in place, even if it were justified in any way, shape or form. So its completely different to ukraine, its completely different to anything else thats there , impractical. Else thats there, impractical. And its just making noise for noises sake. And, philip, weve had hundreds and hundreds of emails and the most common one that were having is one from adam brooks, of the show. No, brooks, friend of the show. No, theres middle eastern theres plenty of middle Eastern Countries theres plenty of middle eastern cou place. We have no room. But our place. We have no room. But of philip, historically, of course, philip, historically, weve refugees weve seen Palestinian Refugees for example, going into the lebanon. And that led to a 15 year civil war. Well, it did, and, you know, across the whole of the middle east, weve got your large palestinian populations in the west israel , which west bank, in israel, which calls israel a security problem. But thats partially stirred by the extreme elements of the the more extreme elements of the Israeli Jewish community, taking over land, you by force in places. But of course, the places. But of course, the palestinian authority, had a civil war which lasted almost a week with hamas whenever hamas took over, the gaza strip. So theres issues amongst the Palestinian People. None of the other arab countries want even even lebanon with, your Lebanese Hezbollah would not necessarily want, all of the Palestinian People to go up there. Theyve got theyve got their own problems. But egypt has got capacity, has got space, will not have them. Jordan is one of the countries thats most closely linked to palestine. And, know, the people have and, you know, the people have similar backgrounds. Jordan doesnt want them. And none of the other arab countries do. So this call for the uk to take on more and more individuals or for other countries in europe who are dealing with massive crisis of movement of people. Anyway, is just, out there to create noise and try and create headlines. Superb. Thanks forjoining us on the show. And thats former senior military Intelligence Officer philip ingram, m. B. E. Thank you very much. Always a pleasure. Now, three british aid workers have been killed after an israeli airstrike in gaza. Rishi sunak says questions need to be answered after the horrific incident and the Israel Defence forces has expressed the deepest condolences to the families of seven people who died last night. Well, join me now for a full update on this is our Homeland Security editor, mark white. Mark, welcome to the show. A tragic situation. Whats the latest . The latest . Well, this is the Charity World central kitchen who have been working in gaza for quite a number of months now and have delivered in that time 42 million meals to people in gaza. Million meals to people in gaza. Absolutely vital at the moment. Their work in gaza. But thats been suspended now in the wake of terrible tragedy of this terrible tragedy last night , the Israeli Military have night, the Israeli Military have admitted that they were behind the missile strike. They say it was unintended. The charity say that they had liaised , as they that they had liaised, as they always do with the Israeli Military, to inform them of the route they were taking down the coastal route, from central gaza , after having picked up part of 100 tonnes of aid supplies that they were about to distribute to gazas citizens , and this is gazas citizens, and this is very deeply uncomfortable for the Israeli Government and the Israeli Military because they have a good working relationship with particular charity, with this particular charity, they have been encouraging this charity to do more in gaza because of a complete breakdown in relationship between the Israeli Government and the Un Aid Agency, unrwa, based in gaza, who the israelis have accused of employing some 2000 members of hamas and indeed employing members of hamas who were actively involved in the attacks on the 7th of october. So since then, the israelis have been encouraging other charities, other organisations to come in and to help, charities, other organisations to come in and to help , the to come in and to help, the gazan citizens. This is what daniel hagari, the Israeli Military spokesman , said. And military spokesman, said. And you can tell just how uncomfortable he was and how fulsome in his praise he is of this particular charity. We are committed to examining our operations thoroughly and transparently. For the last few transparently. For the last few months, the idf has been working closely with the world central kitchen to assist them in fulfilling their Noble Mission of helping bring food and humanitarian aid to the people of gaza. W. K. Also came to help of gaza. W. K. Also came to help israelis after the massacre of october 7th. They were one of the first ngos here. The work of w. K. Is critical. They are the front lines of humanity. W. K. Is critical. They are the front lines of humanity. We will front lines of humanity. We will get to the bottom of this , and get to the bottom of this, and we will share our findings transparently. Transparently. So even though this charity was actively liaising with the Israeli Military , and the route Israeli Military, and the route it was taking was through what is termed a de conflicted zone, there is nothing truly de conflicted in gaza. It is an active war zone through out and real dangers for these charity and aid workers in that area. In fact , it is the and aid workers in that area. In fact, it is the most dangerous place in the for world aid workers, with now more than 200 of those aid workers killed since the war began. Thanks for that update. Mark thanks for that update. Mark white three british aid workers killed in gaza. Thank you very much. Now, you may have booked a much. Now, you may have booked a family holiday. For this year, but what about for next year . 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Theyve got flags so you can buy flags, which are not union jack flags. Theyre flags of those colours. So if you want to change the kit, thats one thing. Dont change people thing. But dont change people waving flags six. Waving flags from six. Its breakfast gb news. Its breakfast on gb news. Its breakfast on gb news. Welcome back. The time is 423. Im Martin Daubney and this is gb news. Now lets bring you some breaking news now and the uk government has summoned the israeli ambassador over the death of three british aid workers in gaza. World central kitchen confirmed seven of its workers were killed last night when their car was struck by a missile. In addition to the three britons, aid workers from poland, australia and palestine were killed, along with a dual us and canadian citizen. Now, us and canadian citizen. Now, inflation in shop prices has dropped to its lowest since december 2021 as shoppers cut down on spending, falling food costs and competition between retailers have prompted this this sharp fall, so is the cost of living crisis for brits finally easing . Will join me now. Is our business and economics editor Liam Halligan with on the money. Welcome to with on the money. Welcome to the show liam. Always an absolute delight liking the haircut there mate. Looking tidy. So listen, am i being a cynic by saying things . Getting not quite as expensive as quickly as before is the new good news . Well, its certainly decent news, martin, that, inflation has come down. Its now these are unofficial numbers. This is are unofficial numbers. This is the British Retail Consortium numbers 1. 3 during the year to february , during the year to february, during the year to march, i should say thats down from 2. 5 inflation during the year to february. Again, these are unofficial numbers from the British Retail Consortium. Were British Retail Consortium. Were also seeing the Energy Price Cap coming down from the 1st of april. Thats fallen by about 12 to just under £1,700 a year. And its strikes me that were now facing the first rate cut in june. I now facing the first rate cut in june. I think Interest Rates will be cut from june. Thats my current prediction from 5. 25. So youre right, its not as if pnces youre right, its not as if prices are falling, but theyre going up more slowly now than at any time than they have in the last two years. The beginning of the end, perhaps of the, cost of living crisis. Living crisis. And, liam, youve been crying out for this kind of fiscal stimulus for so long in terms of Interest Rate cuts, because we cant keep singing hosannas about things not getting quite so pricey all along. Are you so pricey all along. Are you hopeful that the spring, the summer will see that much needed break in the clouds with the sun coming out . Coming out . Liam i think it depends on the geopolitics. Martin weve talked about this before. What do i mean by that . I mean, it depends on relationships between russia and ukraine. The knock on implications Global Energy implications for Global Energy prices, oil and gas prices, particularly oil and gas prices. It depends on how things pan out in the ongoing conflagration between israel and hamas in palestine. Conflagration between israel and hamas in palestine. A lot of it hamas in palestine. A lot of it depends on global events in general , it seems price general, it seems price pressures are easing in the uk, wages are going up less quickly, but theyre now going up more fast than the rate of inflation. So weve got real wage increases, but less inflation coming through wages. Weve got fewer price pressures in the pipeline. Look food is still expensive. Energy prices are coming down a bit. There is still a cost of living crisis for a lot of people , but its for a lot of people, but its not as bad as it was. And certainly the tories. Rishi sunak will be hoping that this low inflation number, 1. 3 from the British Retail Consortium , the British Retail Consortium, will be repeated when we get the official Inflation Numbers , official Inflation Numbers, paving the way for Interest Rate cuts to come soon. Hopefully, the tories would say, before a general election in the autumn so they can get 1 or 2 or maybe even three Interest Rate cuts in from the bank of england before an october election. Weve had two tax reductions lowering of National Insurance rates from 12 to 10 and now 10 to 8. The tories want to get another tax cut in before the elections as well. So theres a lot of talk from the Prime Minister even today , that he wants to wait for today, that he wants to wait for as long as possible before a general election. And thats because he hopes that Interest Rates will come down, not least as a result of this lower inflation number. Well, Liam Halligan, youre normally right on all of these things, mr liam. You you got it right on inflation coming down. Youve got a rise in Interest Rates. And all i can hear in my ear is another interview. Okay. Well were all done now. Thank you. Liam halligan thanks with on thanks for joining us with on the a pleasure. My the money. Always a pleasure. My friend. Had hundreds friend. Now ive had hundreds and and hundreds and hundreds and hundreds of emails this afternoon during the show the thing show already. And the thing thats really , really got you thats really, really got you going is the palestinian Refugee Resettlement scheme, a bit like the ukraine scheme, but from palestine, lee says this. Why . Whats wrong with their arab brothers taking them in, carl echoes that, but the arab nafions echoes that, but the arab nations wont take them in. I wonder why. And of course, we spoke to a Counter Terror expert earlier saying that oftentimes when this was allowed in countries such as lebanon, civil war followed. Danny said no. Europe took in millions of ukrainian refugees because theyre our neighbours and it was the right thing to do. But arab nations should follow suit and take their neighbours in. We also got emails on obesity. We did a section earlier with steve miller saying 10 Million People apparently are now addicted to fast food. Are they really . Youre not quite believing that. In fact, youre quite cynical. James says this on the subject of obesity. I was once 25 stones. However, i went ahead with a gastric bypass and i lost 12 stones. However this isnt a panacea for good health and mental health. Mary says this there is no denying the obesity epidemic just go to any supermarket and you see mainly younger women dressed in clothes that are way too tight with their stomachs hanging above their stomachs hanging above their knees. They wont be fit to play with their grandchildren. Thank you mary, for sharing that touching vignette. Shane adds this simple stop shaming fat people directly and introduce a nhs levy tax on all fast food and junk food at the outlet where they were purchased. This tax will go purchased. This tax will go directly to the nhs and not to the government part quickly. On the government part quickly. On the government part quickly. On the hate crime laws in scotland. What do you get in touch about the clampdown on free speech in scotland . Joan says this people in scotland are better unplug their smart speakers before saying anything. Big brother might be watching you. And melvin adds this what happens in england if you do something . The scottish laws find a criminal. Can they come and get you, or can they wait until youre in scotland . Its a fantastic question. And if there any legal eagles out there with the answer to that, let us know. J. K. Rowling, of course, is defying , rowling, of course, is defying, humza yousaf. Shes saying hashtag arrest me. Shes making the comments. No doubt at some point she will go to scotland. What will be her fate . Thanks for those emails and please keep them coming in gbviews gbnews. Com of course is the address. Now well discuss the address. Now well discuss another woke rebrand of a flag. This time its team gbs union jack has turned pink and purple on a supporters flag for this years olympics is the union jack now a union jack . A union woke even the first. Its time for your latest News Headlines with polly middlehurst. The top stories this hour. The Foreign Office says its summoned the israeli ambassador to set out its unequivocal condemnation of the killing of seven aid workers in gaza, which included three british nationals. The israeli Prime Minister, benjamin netanyahu, says officials are checking the incident thoroughly. See the incident thoroughly. See the group killed were travelling in two armoured cars marked with the world central kitchen logo. The aid group claiming the attack was carried out despite them coordinating their movements with the Israeli Military. Israels defence minister a joint situation minister says a joint situation room will now be opened with International Groups to facilitate the Safe Delivery of aid, with military cooperation. Aid, with military cooperation. A 12 year old child has been killed and two other children are in a serious condition after are in a serious condition after a shooting carried out by another child at a Primary School in finland. Its school in finland. Its understood a permit for the handgun used belonged to a relative of the suspect. Police are saying a 12 year old boy has admitted carrying out the shooting, but the circumstances of what exactly happened are not yet clear. And as youve been yet clear. And as youve been hearing, the Prime Minister is backing the harry potter author j. K. Rowling after she criticised a new hate crime law in scotland. It came into effect yesterday and bans hatred against people on certain grounds. But the author says it risks silencing a genuine debate on issues around gender and doesnt protect the rights of women or girls. Rishi sunak has backed her concerns, saying that people shouldnt be criminalised for stating simple facts on biology. Those are your latest News Headlines. For the latest stories, do sign up to gb news alerts. Scan the qr code on your screen or go to gb news. Common alerts. Alerts. Thank you polly. Now rishi sunak has defended the governments new childcare policy as labour says nurseries dont have enough staff to deliver on the plan. That rings with me. Same situation where my kids were young. I Martin Daubney on gb news, britains news channel welcome back. Its 436. Im Martin Daubney, and this is gb news is now. Rishi sunak has defended the governments flagship childcare policy and dismissed concerns over whether the nursery sector has enough places and staff. Over whether the nursery sector has enough places and staff. And has enough places and staff. And the Prime Minister visited a nursery in hartlepool this morning to mark the first day when families in england benefited from 15 hours of taxpayer funded care for two year olds every week. Well, year olds every week. Well, joining me now is gb news Political Correspondent, katherine forster. Catherine, welcome to the show. This brings back memories of when my nippers were approaching this age. Back were approaching this age. Back in the day, David Cameron offered 30 hours free care. Catherine. And guess what happened . All the nurseries were full because everybody had vouchers. I couldnt get plumb vouchers. I couldnt get plumb in place anyway. How are things going to be different this time around . Yes, well, the Prime Minister is basically saying have faith. Its all going to be okay. Theyre making very big promises because its going to be as of now , 15 hours of childcare per now, 15 hours of childcare per week for work , families with a week for work, families with a two year old. But as of september, that age will be brought down to nine month old babies. And from next september, all Pre School Children from nine months up will be able to get 30 hours of Free Childcare right through until they start school. If their parents are working so the story goes, that also potentially will save parents nearly £7,000 a year. But will there be enough places . But will there be enough places . As youve rightly said, its one thing to promise these things. Its another thing for them to actually be delivered. Theres a crisis basically in childcare provision, a recruitment crisis. Provision, a recruitment crisis. They cant get enough staff. Its not particularly well paid and they can only look after a small number of children per person. And about a quarter of nursery providers thinking that they may cease trading in the next year. So it all sounds fabulous for working parents, but i think we will find out pretty quickly , see if the pretty quickly, see if the governments assurances that the places will be there and actually turns out to be the case. Yeah, i mean, its the bafics yeah, i mean, its the basics, isnt it, catherine . Its supply and demand. If thousands and thousands and thousands and thousands and thousands of parents turn up clutching vouchers and there are only a small number of places, it stands to reason that the pnces it stands to reason that the prices will go up or theyll be full, or theyll have to open more nurseries, which costs money, will drive money, which will drive prices up. Im no sherlock holmes, but isnt this kind of doomed just to get stuck in the treacle . Well, the government are issuing 150,000 codes. They say. Rishi sunak. Was saying a little bit earlier on his visit that this is why the government are doing it in stages, not in one 90, doing it in stages, not in one go, to allow the provision to increase gradually. But there are many, many anecdote s coming in of people who are simply not able to access this care. And bearin able to access this care. And bear in mind, were only at the very beginning of it now. The National Living wage is going up. Im not sure whether that will be enough to deal with the problems, because fundamentally, nurseries saying government nurseries saying the government are not funding this properly. But i think worth bearing in mind as well why the government are doing this. Two reasons. Votes that they would like to try to get young parents voting for them. I think the average age to start voting conservative now is over 50, and the other thing, of course, is they want workers, they want parent s back at work, earning money, paying taxes, contribute to the economy. We dont have a lot of growth. This is one way the growth. This is one way the government hopes that they might get it. And theyre hoping that something like, 60,000 people will be brought back into the workplace as a result. Superb. Katherine forster, i admire your optimism. Thanks for joining me on the show. Admire your optimism. Thanks for joining me on the show. And joining me on the show. And joining me on the show. And joining me on the show. And joining me now is lydia wright, whos director at whos the managing director at little pearls nursery in exeter. Welcome to the show, lydia. So youve heard rishi sunaks plan operationally, will it work . Operationally, will it work . Oh, thats to be seen, isnt it, martin . Theres a lot of promises flying around at the moment, its like it was just said there. Theres some issues around funding and staffing that really need to be looked at before we really get anywhere. Yeah, because lydia , im just yeah, because lydia, im just saying i well recall when a similar scheme came in with David Cameron. Everyone went to the nursery clutching their vouchers , only to be told, well, vouchers, only to be told, well, theres thousands and thousands of parents just like you with free vouchers. The places are all full and they were putting the prices up. So it doesnt actually seem to solve the issue. Its well intentioned , issue. Its well intentioned, but on the ground, parents still facing the same exasperations. Yeah, i mean, were thrilled for parents. As a parent myself, im really happy that working families have got a little bit more support. Its just what that look like. Looks like in the background , are the issues the background, are the issues really theres not, from what i can tell, a lot of Spaces Available as a nursery. We are definitely, unfortunately , definitely, unfortunately, sending people away, for certain places now , particularly as places now, particularly as those those inquiries start coming through for september already we have some places that we just cant offer until this time next year. Unfortunately which is a lovely position to be in as a business. But we really dont want to be turning families away. So im really interested as to where these places are going to be coming from really, and how were going to staff it. And of course, lydia , yeah. And of course, lydia, many parents watching or many grandparents watching who become that service will know full well that service will know full well that nursery places that oftentimes nursery places just takes up so much of your salary , it pays better to not go salary, it pays better to not go back to work. And isnt that the problem . Lydia . We seem to be stuck in this endless cycle. We want to empower mothers and fathers to get back into the workplace. But unless we fund it properly, of course means properly, which of course means more kind of properly, which of course means more in kind of properly, which of course means more in a kind of properly, which of course means more in a never kind of properly, which of course means more in a never ending|d of properly, which of course means more in a never ending circle. Stuck in a never ending circle. Yeah we are, and it needs to be publicised correctly because at the moment its very much publicised as Free Childcare, which it isnt , because it quite which it isnt, because it quite frankly doesnt cover cost. Weve been kind of lobbying about this for years , unless it about this for years, unless it actually covers cost, its not free. Its funded. And unfortunately its up to the providers at the moment to negotiate that with the parents and explain exactly what it is, the government gives us a rate thats lower than the actual cost of quality early years education, so its either up to the providers or for the parents to kind of fit the shortfall there. So its either got to be advertised as funded childcare or subsidised childcare , or it or subsidised childcare, or it needs to be covered at the appropriate cost and therefore can be advertised as free. Of course , theres no such thing as course, theres no such thing as a free lunch. Lydia. Right the managing director at little pearls nursery. Next. I wish you the very best with your business and thanks to the service you do, youre a lifesaver. Certainly for and the missus were for when me and the missus were trying to back work. Now trying to get back to work. Now coming very shortly, well coming up very shortly, well discuss woke rebrand of discuss another woke rebrand of a flag. This time team gbs union jack has turned pink and purple on a supporters flag for this years olympics. Members of the public will give us their thoughts. Is this union jack a union joke . Im Martin Daubney on gb news, britains news channel other newspapers. Getting you down. My wife didnt divorce me that month. Struggling to separate the wheat from the chaff. I know that its a bit of a circus at the best of times. Well, dont worry, headliners has got you covered. Well take the of reading the days the burden of reading the days news. Get depressed, news. And if we get depressed, who cares . Its an occupational hazard. Its an occupational hazard. Frankly. Thats headliners on frankly. Thats headliners on gb from 11 pm. Till gb news from 11 pm. Till midnight, and the following morning, 5 to 6 am. On gb news the comedy channel. Now just kidding. Britains news channel. Kidding. Britains news channel. Welcome back. Your time is 447. Im Martin Daubney and this is gb news. Now 5 00. Well discuss whether id cards could be the way to solve the migrant crisis, because a former labour home secretary. Well, hes backing them. But first, lets bnng backing them. But first, lets bring you some breaking news. And Police Scotland say harry potter author j. K. And Police Scotland say harry potter authorj. K. Rowlings potter author j. K. Rowlings posts about the countrys controversial new hate crime law are not criminal. Repeat. They are not criminal. Repeat. They are not criminal. The force said they received complaints regarding the writers post on x, formerly known as twitter , x, formerly known as twitter, stating trans women are men and Challenging Police to arrest her for her views. Challenging police to arrest her for her views. But a Challenging Police to arrest her for her views. But a police for her views. But a Police Scotland spokesperson said this we have received complaints in relation to the social media post. The comments are not assessed to be criminal and no further action will be taken. Further action will be taken. Which makes you ask the question what are these laws for . If those comments arent a criminality . Okay, now to criminality . Okay, now to another rebrand of a flag which has caused more controversy after nike changed the Saint Georges cross on the england football shirt, and this time, team gbs union jack supporters flag has turned pink and purple for the Paris Olympics this year and gb news has been out and about today to find out what the Great British public thinks about this flag. I think its okay, but i still think that red, white and blue is really our colour. Our colour. I like it, i think its modern. I think that ones nicer. Youve got to move with the times, havent you . Its time for a change because everything in life moves on and you have to adapt to whats going on. So yeah, no, im looking forward to the olympics and im looking forward to seeing our athletes and swimmers and everybody it. Everybody wearing it. Why not leave it as it is . Its, you know , our traditional flag. Why mess with it like the england football shirt . Just leave it alone. Its that is the proper flag for our country. And thats what it should be all. Well, i think its a bit weird, the change in it, its the flags, the flag in it. Its been there centuries, isnt it . So keep it the same. So keep it the same. I quite it, but i think i quite like it, but i think the redder, yeah. The red could be redder, yeah. Nothing really against it. Team gb should be about the union jack in great britain, but to me thats not. They go a mixed bag about this flag out and about and join me now is former Team Gb Sprinter derek redmond. Derek a gold winner a record breaker captain. Whats your take on this flag . Some people are calling it a union joke. Ive not heard that, but i do like that. I mean, im not a fan of it, we i mean, im not a fan of it, we are competing for great britain, the british flag is the colours that it is. You know, if you want to change anything and have an extra bit of represent nation, then do it in the vest. But leave the flag as it is. You know youre representing great britain. Im sure you can see behind me theres a picture of usain bolt. Im sure jamaica , usain bolt. Im sure jamaica, when they come out of the olympic games, wont be coming out pinks and out in purples, pinks and greens. Coming in greens. Theyll be coming out in their usual traditional colours, so me, leave the flag as it so for me, leave the flag as it is. And if you want to make any changes , change the actual, you changes, change the actual, you know, the, the vest, the shirt, the singlet, the trunks, whatever people are using, depending what sport theyre playing, i just think you playing, i just think that you are competing for great britain. And if you are, you know, a british representative, then were representing the whole of great britain. Whatever walk of life youre from. Derek, i think you raise a fantastic point there , it seems fantastic point there, it seems to be, as we saw with the nike shirts, the Saint Georges cross was changed. Now the union flag is changed. Its seen as progressive, isnt it, to meddle with our great nation flags. But i think youre dead, right . The jamaicans would never change their flags. The french would never change their flag. Do you think something pernicious is going on, derek . Is this about meddling our flags meddling with our flags deliberately try and wind us deliberately to try and wind us up, i dont know, you know, and im all for moving forward and, you know, and going with change. But as i say, you can do that with the strip, with the kit itself , our flag with the strip, with the kit itself, our flag is our flag, im sure if i changed my number plates to purples and oranges and mauves and goodness knows what, the police will have something to say about it. I dont think i can get get away with saying its progressive, but paint my any but i can paint my car any colour that or spray it, colour that i want or spray it, i say. So im not sure i should say. So im not sure the reasons it. I would the reasons behind it. I would love to know the reasons behind it, and say , im all for it, and as i say, im all for moving forward. Im all for progression. We progression. But we are representing great britain, you know, ive been know, for as long as ive been alive and, i dont know how long after im gone. Our flag has after im gone. Our flag has been red, white and blue. The flag should be that colour regardless to the size where its placed. And you know, have fun with the with the with the strip itself. Make that different. You know, ive got no issues with with that. But the flag itself shouldnt change unless changes i and derek, youre a medal winner. You know what it like. What it feels like to see that flag go up the pole. Must be the best feeling on the planet. Well, not just the flag well, its not just the flag going up the pole. It is. Which is the best feeling on the planet. Actually having planet. Its actually having that your chest well. That flag on your chest as well. Represents your country running out onto football pitch, the out onto the football pitch, the cricket pitch, the rugby pitch, whatever it is, athletics whatever it is, the athletics track, out , standing on track, walking out, standing on a podium, just about dive a podium, just about to dive into pool. That union into a pool. Having that union flag on your on yourself is what youve worked for, you know, and its the colours that it is, is the colours that it is. And when were training in the middle of the winter and going for all those hard sessions, thats the image we have in our of image we have in our minds of that union flag going up the pole, as you say, or wearing that vest, that shirt, that singlet with the union flag or the it singlet with the union flag or th regarding the writers posts on x, of course, formerly known as twitter, stating trans women are men and Challenging Police to arrest her for her views. Well arrest her for her views. 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Today, with a huge increase in Illegal Migrants crossing the channel so far this year, one former home secretary says id cards could hold the key to solving the small boats crisis and Police Scotland say jk rowlings comments on social media are not criminal. They received complaints after the harry potter author wrote that trans women are men , and trans women are men, and challenged police to arrest her for her views. Well, im going to speak to a comedian who performed at an event in edinburgh last night, a few hours after those countries, the countrys controversial new hate crime laws came into force. And i dont think he got arrested either. And some tories are either. And some tories are already planning for life without rishi sunak. The one group is said to want to replace him with a liz truss style leader. Spoiler its not liz truss thats all coming up in your next hour. Well, the show as always. Its fabulous to have as always. Its fabulous to have your company. Weve had hundreds and hundreds of emails today in the show. Weve covered obesity. Is it an addiction or simply poor behaviour . Should we accept a ukrainian style refugee plan . But for palestinians . And next but for palestinians . And next well be debating id cards. Is it time to make them compulsory . So we have a clue whos in our country arriving illegally in dinghies. They can walk into the country without any proof of who they are, and we wont know where theyre going to be. Is a 1990s style id scheme the way out of the mire . Email me gb views at gb news. Com with all of your opinions. But first, lets kick off this hour with your latest News Headlines. And its polly middlehurst. Its polly middlehurst. Martin, thank you and good evening to you. Well, the top story from the gb newsroom tonight is that the Foreign Office says it has summoned the israeli ambassador to set out its unequivocal condemnation of the killing of seven aid workers in gaza, which included three british nationals. The israeli Prime Minister, benjamin netanyahu, described the incident un incident as tragic, and un intended. The group killed were travelling in two armoured cars marked with the world central kitchen logo. The aid group claims the attack was also carried out despite them coordinating their movements with the Israeli Military. Israels defence minister says a new situation room will be opened now with International Groups to facilitate the Safe Delivery of aid in future. Here, delivery of aid in future. Here, rishi sunak has called for a full investigation. Full investigation. Shocked and saddened to hear the reported deaths of aid workers in gaza. Were urgently working to confirm all the details, but my thoughts right now with their friends and family, theyre doing fantastic work bringing alleviation to the suffering that many are experiencing in gaza. They should be praised and commended for what theyre doing. They need to be allowed to do that work unhindered, and its incumbent on israel make sure incumbent on israel to make sure that do that. And were that they can do that. And were asking israel to investigate what happened urgently, asking israel to investigate what ha|clearly urgently, asking israel to investigate what ha|clearly there |ently, asking israel to investigate what ha|clearly there are. Y, because clearly there are questions need to be answered. Now, as youve been hearing comments about scotlands new hate posted to social hate crime law posted to social media by the authorjk rowling, are not criminal. Thats according to Police Scotland. In the last hour or so, the new law was introduced yesterday and seeks to ban hatred against people on certain grounds. But people on certain grounds. But the harry potter author says it risks silencing genuine debate on issues around gender, as well asignonng on issues around gender, as well as ignoring the rights of women and girls. The Prime Minister, rishi sunak, has backed her concerns, saying that people shouldnt be criminalised for stating simple biological fact. Shadow minister pat mcfadden told gb news this morning that labour has no plans to introduce anything similar. We want proper enforcement of the anti hate crime laws that are there and make sure that the right penalties are in place to protect people. Were not planning to legislate for new crimes in this area, and i dont think jk rowling should be arrested now. Finland will observe a day of mourning tomorrow after a 12 year old child was killed and two others were seriously wounded in a shooting that was carried out by another child at a Primary School north of helsinki. Its understood a permit for the hand gun that was used belonged to a relative of the suspect. Police say the 12 the suspect. Police say the 12 year old boy has admitted carrying out the shooting, but the circumstances surrounding exactly what happened still the circumstances surrounding exaiclearhat happened still the circumstances surrounding exaiclear. At happened still the circumstances surrounding exaiclear. Sportsiened still the circumstances surrounding exaiclear. Sports brand still the circumstances surrounding exaiclear. Sports brand giant ll not clear. Sports brand giant adidas will redesign its german football shirts, featuring the number 44, amid concerns over a resemblance to the nazi ss symbol. The new kits were launched last month ahead of germany hosting the European Championship ukip, but a historian flagged similarities for the logo with the ss, which was nazi germanys elite military guard under hitler. The countrys Football Association says it didnt spot the similarities when the design was first approved, but it will now be changed and here at home. Good news for house hunters mortgage approvals have hit a 17 month high, coinciding with a fall in house prices, according to the bank of england. Mortgage to the bank of england. Mortgage approvals rose to the highest level seen since the market turmoil sparked by liz trusss mini budget meanwhile, house pnces mini budget meanwhile, house prices themselves fell by 2 in march. That means the average price of a home in britain is now just over £261,000. The government has faced criticism today , though, over its new plan today, though, over its new plan today, though, over its new plan to expand funded childcare for working parents. In the first week of it being rolled out across england. Meeting parents in hartlepool this morning, across england. Meeting parents in hartlepool this morning , the in hartlepool this morning, the Prime Minister rejected claims that nurseries cant cope with increasing demand as a result of the new policy. He said the package of support for families has been introduced stages to has been introduced in stages to give time for more places to be made available at nurseries as. And lastly, if youve ever gone incognito using the internet browser Google Chrome, your private information may have been stored anyway by the tech giant. But now, thanks to a Us Court Ruling that might change, google could be forced to delete all private user data, which wasnt supposed to have been tracked and despite the case being filed in the United States , the judgement also applies internationally, including here internationally, including here in the uk. Google has dismissed the merits of the case, saying it only involved old technical data that was Never Associated with individuals. Thats the with individuals. Thats the news. For the latest stories, do sign up to gb news alerts, scan the qr code on your screen or go to gb news. Com slash alerts. Thank you very much, polly. Now weve got loads to get through in this hour, so lets get cracking and could id cards be the way to finally solve the channel migrant crisis . Well, it emerged yesterday that theres been an incredible 43 rise in the number of people illegally arriving in small boats this year alone, more than 5000 migrants have crossed the channel so far in 2024. Now former home secretary lord David Blunkett told the times today i would reintroduce the idea of id cards because what will happen with the rwanda scheme is organised. Criminals will tell migrants not to claim asylum. Theyll say, well , well get you theyll say, well, well get you across to the uk and then ring this number. Well get you a job and accommodation and then theyll simply disappear into theyll simply disappear into the sub economy. And thats the the sub economy. And thats the worst of all worlds. And theyll be exposed to mass exploitation. And then that will affect other people by undercutting genuine workers and also involve modern slavery. You can only solve that if you have a proper i. D. Entity scheme. Now, this idea was was originally floated in the in the 1990s. In originally floated in the in the 19905. In 2001. Originally floated in the in the 1990s. In 2001. Beg your pardon. Post 911. It was meant to be a way of tracking terrorists in the uk. It came in a voluntary bafis the uk. It came in a voluntary basis for brits, but became compulsory for foreign people here. But it was scrapped by the coalition in 2010. Could the idea work again in this day and age . But lord blunkett seems to think so, and so do you. Weve had hundreds and hundreds of emails on this. Im going to read out just a few of those now , dave says this id cards should be essential. Most of the time you would not have to show it, but it will stop all the corruption in voting in the workforce, police checks. Im sure most people in this country would gladly accept them if they felt it was controlling our borders and knowing who is in our country, linda adds this make it a voluntary scheme for everybody, but if you opt out, then you cannot qualify for benefits or nhs services. Genuine Asylum Seekers will soon opt in, i guarantee it, and criminals and economic migrants will be opting out and then we can arrest them and get them out of the country. Now, bev says this british the british created id cards in south africa after the boer war in 1902. Law stated everyone must carry them and they still do. If you want to be safe in britain, then we need to reintroduce these schemes sharpish. Now, earlier in the show, i talked about calls for Palestinian Refugees and gaza with family in this country to be allowed to move to the uk. Now, almost 60 groups, including the Refugee Council and care for care for calais, they well, they want home secretary James Cleverly to start a ukraine style visa scheme. And lets go to a few emails on that story. Now weve had absolutely hundreds, in fact , weve had hundreds, in fact, weve had over a thousand emails on this. And its fair to say its very, very divided you. Toby says this. Weve got enough problems in. Weve got enough problems in the uk without adding palestinians access to the uk. You never know. Some of these could be hamas terrorists. And in fact, we spoke to philip ingram, a former senior military adviser. He said precisely that. We simply have no idea who is amongst these refugees , no amongst these refugees, no matter how well intentioned they were. Brian says this the death were. Brian says this the death of the aid workers in gaza rests squarely with hamas and the Palestinian People. They are the ones with blood on their hands. A few of you out there, they support this idea, though. They think its the right thing for us to do. Rob says this. Yes it is the only decent humanitarian response. A true british value. Response. A true british value. Allow refugees from palestine into this country. Lets rise above the morass. Meg adds this we should show heart and lead the world by example , just as we the world by example, just as we did with jewish refugees after world war ii. But peter says this has this government lost its mind and any sense of responsibility for taking care of the British Public . My family and i, and hundreds of people that we know all across my community, do not want any more refugees , economic migrants, refugees, economic migrants, illegal boat people or any others allowed into the uk. Anne adds this im all for this scheme, so long as these Palestinian Refugees stay at the homes of care for calais staff, i think anne there might have a tongue firmly in her cheek. Lets get more on our top story. And lord blunkett says id cards could solve the channel migrant crisis. Well, joining me now to discuss this is the human rights lawyer shoaib khan. Welcome to the show, shoaib. So David Blunkett, its an idea from 2001. Hes all for it because it will stop the economic migrants , will stop the economic migrants, the refugees, the Asylum Seekers, whatever you want to call them, it will stop them being black being forced into the black economy. Stop being economy. It will stop them being forced into slavery, it will forced into slavery, and it will protect rights and keep protect their rights and keep everybody safe. On that basis, surely support it. Surely you must support it. Hi. Hi. No, i dont i mean, i mean, i have to say about David Blunkett, i mean, talk about being a one trick pony. Mean, this the only i mean, is this the only thing you know, every ten years, he reappears. And this is the only thing on his mind. I mean, obviously, you know, the plan failed abysmally even when he was in power, even home was in power, even as home secretary. The tories sort secretary. Then the tories sort of with it for while. Of dabbled with it for a while. Obviously, coalition obviously, the Coalition Government completely, know, government completely, you know, they so they did away with it. So whatever, know , ten, 15 whatever, you know, ten, 15 years later, i have no idea why. Theidea you years later, i have no idea why. The idea you know , rearing the idea is, you know, rearing its but just dont its head again, but i just dont even understand, from even understand, even from his point even people who point of view or even people who might cards in might support id cards in general. The idea . How general. Whats the idea . How would stop the boats . How would it stop the boats . How would it stop the boats . How would it stop illegal immigration to the uk, because, you know, unless the plan is, you know, unless the plan is, you know, unless the plan is, you know, were going to calais or france and giving id cards to people there. So at least when they arrive in the uk, we know who are. Otherwise im who they are. But otherwise im not know, whats not even sure you know, whats the it, people the the benefit of it, people in the uk who are who are here uk who are here, who are here lawfully documented, people who work uk, they work and live in the uk, they already have documents, we have passports, we ni numbers. Passports, we have ni numbers. We documents. We need, we have any documents. We need, to living and working the to be living and working in the uk. So how is it going to solve any, you know, how is anything to do with the migration crisis . Well it could, it could address a very real problem, show even one that, you know exists is this people exists and that is this people are told routinely throw are told routinely to throw their channel their documents in the channel as come then to as they come over, and then to invent story about who they invent a story about who they are. Surely, are. So surely, having a mandatory scheme anybody mandatory id scheme for anybody arriving in the country by those means would safeguard the British Public. It will guarantee these people couldnt work illegally and protect the human rights of british citizens. Rather than continually protecting the rights of those who arrive to our shores illegally. Yeah. No. I mean, again , im yeah. No. I mean, again, im not sure. So are we saying that they need to bring the id cards with them . I thought what David Blunkett is suggesting is that we issuing people we need to be issuing people with id cards in uk. With id cards in the uk. Is genuinely saying, you know, again, about were just again, talk about we were just talking know, you talking about, you know, you were speaking about, were just speaking about, palestine, those palestine, ukraine, all those afghanistan. I would afghanistan. So i would genuinely think if someone arrived from palestine with an id would you grant them id card, would you grant them asylum if someone turns up without or if a without an id card, or if a ukrainian turned up without an id would send away or id card would send them away or deport mean, i think deport them . I mean, i think thats a ludicrous idea anyway, but especially but i just dont see especially considering, you know, for instance, put into instance, if you put this into effect for palestine, are there authorities in palestine right now id cards . I mean, now issuing id cards . I mean, how would work . Its how would that work . Its a completely separate thing. You know, the idea of a Palestinian Refugee scheme isnt the same as what were talking about here. People coming over the channel illegally giving a piece of paper, proving who they are, which would protect surely the human rights of british citizens. No, but but we do the. Thats what im saying. I mean, who are these people . Theyre mostly afghans. They mostly other countries. So is the taliban giving id cards or pieces of giving out id cards or pieces of paper proving people are paper proving who people are right do we expect right now . How do we expect people are in france people who are in france and want to the uk . We want to come to the uk . We expect back to expect them to go back to afghanistan id afghanistan first, get your id card then come card made and then you come back. Dont see, mean, back. I just dont see, i mean, even practically, alone the even practically, let alone the you know, the human, the human rights Civil Liberties point you know, the human, the human rigview Civil Liberties point you know, the human, the human rigview practically. ies point you know, the human, the human rigview practically. Whatint you know, the human, the human rigview practically. What are we of view practically. What are we suggesting of view practically. What are we suggl sting of view practically. What are we suggl just| of view practically. What are we suggl just have no idea how, not. I just have no idea how, you know, how we expect it to even work. Even work. Okay, well, if you dont know what you then i cant help you. Thank you very much, shoaib khan, for joining thank you very much, shoaib khan, forjoining us on the khan, for joining us on the show. Human rights lawyer. Thank you now three british you very much. Now three british aid workers have been killed after israeli airstrike in after an israeli airstrike in gaza. Rishi sunak says questions need answered after this need to be answered after this horrific incident, and the Israel Defence forces has expressed the deepest condolences to the families of seven people who died last night. Well, joining me now is our home and security editor, mark white. Mark, whats the latest on this tragedy . Latest on this tragedy . Well, the confirmation now that, those, among the seven people that were killed are three british nationals confirmed by this charity, world central kitchen, who have been working at the request of the israelis, actually, in gaza for quite a number of months now. And this is significantly embarrassing and very uncomfortable for the israelis because they have such a good working relationship with this charity. And thats because, of charity. And thats because, of course, the israelis do not have a good working relationship with the United Nations aid agency in gaza. Unrwa, who they claim have employed some 2000 members of hamas, have also employed people from hamas that were actively involved in the terrorist atrocities of the 7th of october. That relationship is completely broken down. The israelis would like to expel this u. N. Aid agency from gaza and are being encouraging outside ngos and charities like the world central kitchen to come in there and to work and they have been liaising, every day , they say with the israeli day, they say with the Israeli Military about where to go for, what routes are taking to try to avoid what we saw taking place last night. They say, according to the israeli Prime Minister, an unintended missile strike thatis an unintended missile strike that is now part of a deep investigation by the Israeli Military to determine exactly what went wrong. Where we heard from the british Prime Minister, rishi sunak , a little earlier rishi sunak, a little earlier today, this was his reaction to that tragic event last night. Im shocked and saddened to hear the reported deaths of aid workers in gaza. Were urgently working to confirm all the details, but my thoughts right now with their friends and family , theyre doing fantastic family, theyre doing fantastic work bringing alleviation to the suffering that many are experiencing in gaza. They should be praised and commended for what theyre doing. They need allowed do that need to be allowed to do that work and its work unhindered. And its incumbent on to make sure incumbent on israel to make sure that they can do that. And were asking israel to investigate what happened urgently, because clearly that clearly there are questions that need you know , need to be answered. You know, our long standing that our view is long standing that israel both intention israel has both the intention and the ability to comply with International Humanitarian law. Ive made that very clear to Prime Minister netanyahu. Whenever ive spoken him. Whenever ive spoken to him. There many there have been too many civilian deaths in gaza. Of course, we want to see an immediate humanitarian pause so that we can get the hostages out and more aid into the region. Now and in the meantime, we have an additional headache on top of an additional headache on top of a deepening crisis in gaza in humanitarian terms, because this charity at the centre of this tragic incident last night, world central kitchen has now suspended its operations in gaza , a charity that in recent months has handed out some 42 million meals to gazas citizens. So absolutely vital to the humanitarian effort in this enclave and not just them. Another us charity has suspended operations. So the israelis are speaking to these charities as a matter of urgency to try to get better working practices in place, to try to ensure there is no repeat of the horrific events that unfolded yesterday evening. Thank you, mark white for that update on the aid workers killed in gaza. Thank you very much. Now its our biggest much. 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Police scotland, say harry potter, author j. K. Rowlings posts authorj. K. Rowlings posts about the countrys controversial new hate crime laws are not criminal. The force said they received complaints regarding the writers posts on x, of course, formerly known as twitter , stating trans women are twitter, stating trans women are men and Challenging Police to arrest her for her views. But a Police Scotland spokesperson said we have received complaints in relation to the social media posts. The comments are not assessed to be criminal and no further action will be taken. Well, to mark the new law being introduced last night, some gb news comedians went to edinburgh. However, their night was rudely interrupted by an appearance from the hate monster i before you laugh at a joke tonight, ask yourself the following questions. Why does following questions. Why does the joke avoid offensive material . Two the joke avoid offensive material . Two is the joke avoid offensive material . Two is the comedian material . Two is the comedian a representative of a Marginalised Group . Three can you be group . Three can you be absolutely sure the comedian has never said or done anything problematic . Problematic . And i suspect that was the only 20s we were able to show through cleanliness reasons on the show. But anyway, joining me now to discuss this is the comedian and gb news presenter josh howie josh. So the new laws came in. You guys from comedy unleashed steamed up to scotland, presumably trying to break every law possible and to get the police provoked. What happened . And well, first of all, lots of people laughed, that was actually jk rowling who was in the costume, that we just saw. And, it was, you know what . We went up, we did our normal jokes that we would do in, in regular sets, but the point was to take a stand and not to incite hatred, but to see where this line was, because before, in the last few weeks , weve heard last few weeks, weve heard about how the police have received training to go into comedy clubs and to go into theatres and to make a call about whether something is offensive or not. But where is the line . Thats the point. The point. And josh, without wishing to go full godwins and mention adolf hitler, im afraid im going to do it because the kind of countries that had censorship on humour were places like hitlers germany, are places like kim jong uns north korea, where there are state approved jokes. Why on earth, you know, jokes. Why on earth, you know, in the United Kingdom, in 2024 . Is the Scottish Government going down the route of trying to criminalise jokes . I know, i mean , especially i know, i mean, especially the home of enlightenment, the home the edinburgh fringe, home of the edinburgh fringe, one of the greatest, comedy festivals in the world. But we saw it a couple of years ago. We saw, jerry sadowitz, whos a fantastic comic, getting literally his shows cancelled up there. We saw a bunch of comedians just kind of doing nothing about it. And the irony is that people, what they do for kindness , or what they do for kindness, or they see it as being a moral virtue, can, of course, be turned on them. Thats the whole thing about free speech is free speech for everyone, just people everyone, not just the people that with. And when it that i agree with. And when it comes down to, this law , which comes down to, this law, which really makes it about offence being taken and not given, then it then its just about the individual and anybody can use anything that anybody ever says onune anything that anybody ever says online or in person or in a comedy club. And if they in any way take offence to it or pretend to take offence to it, you can get the police to look into it, which is madness. The into it, which is madness. The fact that jk rowling, who is probably scotlands greatest living export, had to take a stand in this way and protect women mostly for stating biological facts to protect their rights , i mean, what what their rights, i mean, what what a waste of police time today. They probably going through these tweets and finding out if she committed an actual offence for stating biological truth. For stating biological truth. Yeah. And it begs the question, josh, if jk rowling, the highest profile provocateur of these new laws , specifically of these new laws, specifically and deliberately laid down things that she felt would get her arrested, and they said theyre not criminal anyway, whats the point of these laws . Of course , well, its virtue of course, well, its virtue signalling. But the scary thing is its virtue signalling that is its virtue signalling that is in law. There is this idea now that by calling their bluff that other people, other women who dont have her profile or the resources that she has can now use this as a defence, they can also say, a male rapist is, is not a woman, is a male rapist. So, what shes done was brave and, and courageous. And to take that stand, to put herself at risk, and hopefully that will extend. And the idea, i guess, of us going up there was to do the same thing, to go up, to tell jokes, to be funny, not to be hateful, but comedy is always about provoking and pushing and needung about provoking and pushing and needling and pointing out hypocrisy and there may well be some people who are antagonises because youre saying something that they dont like you dont they dont agree with your view. But thats very different from being hateful. My job is to make people laugh. Not in this interview, but, you know, at night time. Night time. Yeah. Josh was about to ask you, are there any jokes that you, are there any jokes that you could tell us on this show that wouldnt get me immediately fired . Ive got two fired . Be careful. Ive got two hungry would hungry children that would contravene , that contravene these laws, that youre able to tell on daytime tv, am inviting tv, or am i just inviting disaster here . Youre. Absolutely. Because i get. I work for gb news. Im going to get fired as well. Ive got feed. Get your got five kids to feed. Get your two kids, but, you know, if people to along, people want to come along, theres another comedy unleashed people want to come along, th dont have to self censor , which dont have to self censor, which is where things have been going for the last five years or so. Josh howie, thanks for superb josh howie, thanks for joining us. Thanks for making me smile for not getting smile and thanks for not getting both us sacked. What a double both of us sacked. What a double whammy that would have been. Josh absolute josh howie always an absolute pleasure the pleasure to have you on the show. Thank very much mate. Show. Thank you very much mate. Thanks now theres lots thanks now theres still lots more to between now more still to come between now and 6 00, and the could be and 6 00, and the uk could be set hosepipe ban this set for a hosepipe ban this summer, the wettest summer, despite the wettest winter on record, with scientists saying its because we havent built any reservoirs in the past three decades. What a bunch of drips. But first, says your latest News Headlines with polly middlehurst. With polly middlehurst. The top stories this hour. The foreign secretary, lord cameron , says israel must make cameron, says israel must make major changes ensure the major changes to ensure the safety of aid workers in gaza after three british nationals were among seven killed in an airstrike, the israeli Prime Minister benjamin netanyahu, described the incident as tragic and unintended. The group killed were travelling in two armoured cars marked with the world central kitchen logo. The aid group claims the attack was carried out despite them coordinating their movements with the Israeli Military. Well, with the Israeli Military. Well, now, israels defence minister says a new situation room will be opened with International Groups to facilitate the Safe Delivery of aid. Comments about delivery of aid. Comments about scotlands new hate crime law posted to social media by author jk rowling, are not criminal, according to Police Scotland. The new law was introduced yesterday and seeks to ban hatred against people on certain grounds. But hatred against people on certain grounds. But the harry potter author says it risks silencing genuine debate on issues around genden genuine debate on issues around gender, as well as ignoring the rights of women and girls. And a rights of women and girls. And a 12 year old child has been killed in two other children are in a serious condition after a shooting carried out by another child at a Primary School in finland. Its understood a permit for the handgun belonged to a relative of the suspect. Police are saying. A 12 year old boy has now admitted carrying out that shooting. But the circumstances surrounding exactly what happened arent yet clear, and mortgage approvals have hit a 17 month high, coinciding with a fall in house prices. Approvals rose to the highest level since the market turmoil sparked by liz trusss mini budget in september 2022. Meanwhile house prices fell by 2 in march. It means the average price of a home in britain is now just over £260,000. Thats your headlines. For the latest stories, do sign up to gb news alerts. Scan that qr code on the screen right now or go to gb news. Com slash alerts. Alerts. For a valuable legacy your family can own, gold coins will always shine bright. Always shine bright. Rosalind gold proudly sponsors the gb news financial report. Shall we check on the numbers for you . Well, the pound will for you . Well, the pound will buy you 1. 2572 and ,1. 1678. The price of gold is £1,795. 58 an ounce, and the ftse 100 has closed for the day today at 7935 points. Rosalind gold proudly sponsors the gb news financial report. Report. Thank you pauline. Ive had hundreds of emails today and the topic of Identity Cards has really got you going, stuart says this ive always been against id cards before, and i certainly dont trust tony blair as far as i can throw him, but now it seems to me that its essential that we know who is in this country. Essential that we know who is in this country. No essential that we know who is in this country. No Identity Card this country. No Identity Card or they should be deported immediately. David adds this quickly. What a surprise. The quickly. What a surprise. The human rights lawyer does not support the use of id cards. Pity he is not making the same case about the border checks that enter the eu, where you have your fingerprints taken and also facial recognition technology. Well, joining me now technology. Well, joining me now is bev turner, whos standing in tonight for Michelle Dewberry on dewbs co six till seven. This evening. Bev, always a joy to see whats on your menu. See whats on your menu. Evening, martin. Well, were going to be carrying on this conversation that youve just started about free speech conversation that youve just stiscotland about free speech conversation that youve just stiscotland and� ut free speech conversation that youve just stiscotland and this ee speech conversation that youve just stiscotland and this absolute] in scotland and this absolute lamentable bill from the snp. Lamentable bill from the snp. Weve got Peter Edwards in and henry hill, were going to be talking about that. And then also council tax for also double council tax for second homes. Is that going to be for rural areas be good for rural areas particularly, or is it a penalty, a punishment on people who just wants to work hard and aspire to do better . Is it any aspire to do better . Is it any wonder . Topic three that generation z dont want to go to work . Maybe weve killed the idea that work is a good thing for that generation. Would you employ somebody who is gen z as the kids took mentioned it, and also , if youre going to also, if youre going to tenerife, you might get there to find some protest going on against british holidaymakers because apparently all we want to do in tenerife is drink beer and eat burgers, and the locals are not happy about it. Were going to be having a special appearance holidaymaker appearance from one holidaymaker in own in tenerife, our very own Michelle Dewberry from sun Michelle Dewberry from a sun lounger out if the lounger to find out if the stereotype is true. Thats me on dewbs co from six bev turner sounds superb and whats wrong with eating burgers and drinking loads of booze on holiday . That the point . Bev . Isnt that the point . Bev . That looks great superb menu six thats bev six till seven. Thats bev turner for dewbs co turner standing in for dewbs co straight after me. Looks great. Now were still waiting to find out when the next general election will be, but the tories are already looking ahead to how theyll react to a defeat. And today its claimed one group wants to install a liz truss style candidate to replace rishi sunak if they lose power. But spoiler alert its not liz truss. Well find out from the leader of the conservative movement next who it might be. Im Martin Daubney on gb news, britains news channel. Welcome back. Your time is 541. Were on the final furlong. Im Martin Daubney on gb news now. Reports daubney on gb news now. Reports suggest the plan has been launched to install a liz truss style tory leader by the popular conservative group the pop cons, as they call themselves a movement aiming to restore democratic accountability and deliver popular conservative policies, are reportedly devised a plan to introduce a future tory leader aligned with liz truss economic views. This comes truss economic views. This comes after the probability of a conservative defeat has intensified, after continued polls suggest the likelihood of a very heavy loss indeed. Well, a very heavy loss indeed. Well, join me now to discuss. This is gb news Political Correspondent, katherine forster. So catherine, the pop cons are proposing a liz truss style leader, but presumably its not liz truss. Presumably its not liz truss. No, even liz truss would not presume that realistically she was going to be made conservative party leader again after her brief seven weeks as Prime Minister. But what about perhaps somebody like the former home secretary priti patel . She is popular on the right of the party. Shes been making a lot of friends across the party recently. Shes been going a little bit under the radar, but she is seen definitely as a contender if or when , as most contender if or when, as most people expect the next election is lost. But of course, the conservatives havent lost the next election yet. So in some ways, people like William Hague saying this is really not very helpful at all. What we should be doing is looking at united and trying to win. But of course, many of them think that it is already lost and judging by the poll that came out at the weekend, the mrp poll that suggested the tories might only be left with 938 seats, they may not have that much choice into who to go for because, for example, Penny Mordaunt , a very example, Penny Mordaunt, a very popular front runner for the leadership and predicted to lose her seat under that model, leadership and predicted to lose her seat under that model , ditto her seat under that model, ditto grant shapps, the defence secretary. Ditto James Cleverly, the home secretary, Kemi Badenoch , looks set to hang on badenoch, looks set to hang on in saffron walden, but according to another poll, she would be even less popular with voters than than any of the alternatives. So lets see what happens. But certainly some plotting and plotting around priti patel, specifically catherine forza, excellent as eve r. Even and joining me now to discuss this is the director of pop con, Mark Littlewood. Mark welcome to the show, katherine forster. Theyre talking about the plotting and of course, mark. All eyes now on post general election. The expected forest fire took , tell us, who would fire took, tell us, who would the truss style leader be . What values would they have and how would they be selected , i cant would they be selected, i cant really answer your first question, martin, but i can answer your second and your third question, what what cons are pushing for is that we need are pushing for is that we need a conservative party that understands we need massive institutional reform in britain institutional reform in britain in order to make the sort of things that conservative want deregulation, tax cuts , a deregulation, tax cuts, a slimmer, more efficient state possible and viable. Possible and viable. Unless we do things like scrap the obr and pull out of the European Convention of human rights, then actually fiscal policy is never going to be conservative immigration policy is going to be nearly impossible for any government to administer. So we need huge institutional reform. Thats our pitch. Who is going to step up to that plate . Well, weve just heard your earlier discussion. Fascinating. Priti patel is definitely the people definitely one of the people mentioned , rees mogg mentioned, Jacob Rees Mogg conceivably as well. But there could sundry others. And in could be sundry others. And in terms of the personality, martin, the question i said i wouldnt answer, i would just say as a betting man, the say this as a betting man, the person who goes on to lead the conservative party is usually a 50 to 1 shot or longer a year before they become tory leader. In fact, as a political nerd myself, i was not so long ago rewatching the october 1974 general election coverage. General election coverage. Margaret thatcher was 50 to 1 to be the next conservative party leader. She became the next conservative party leader and then obviously went on to be one of our great post war Prime Ministers the process is Pretty Simple now. Ministers the process is pretty simim now. Ministers the process is pretty simim rather with william im rather with William Hague. Im not trying to get rid of rishi sunak. I think this plotting and shenanigans is very detrimental to the conservative cause. So i wish him every success. I cause. So i wish him every success. I hope he wins the next election. But in the scenario in which he doesnt, which is what the polls are predicting , the the polls are predicting, the process would be as follows. If the conservative leader stands down, which you would kind of expect might happen if a conservative Prime Minister is indeed by the indeed defeated by the electorate. Hopefully not by his own side, but only by the electorate. Then you would need one third the remaining one third of the remaining conservative to nominate conservative mps to nominate a candidate to get them on the ballot paper, because you whittle down two from the whittle it down to two from the parliamentary and a Parliamentary Party and then a majority of grassroots members rank file members of the rank and file members of the tory to vote for that tory party to vote for that winner. Weve been through this process number of times over process a number of times over the years. Some might the past few years. Some might say too times , but say rather too many times, but that would be the process. But again, im rather with William Hague. Sunak hague. I mean, if rishi sunak were on the pop con were to run on the pop con platform, think be in platform, i think hed be in with fighting chance. But we with a fighting chance. But we need change to the need serious change to the institutional structure the institutional structure of the united in order to bring United Kingdom in order to bring about what most voters want a successful immigration policy, a less burdensome government, and rather lower taxes. But youve got to will the means, not just the ends. So i hope that rishi sunakis the ends. So i hope that rishi sunak is the leader of the tory party that steps up and does this, you know, but if not, if the conservatives lose, which is what the opinion polls suggest, apparently, my perspective , apparently, from my perspective, that will be the process we go through. Okay. Mark littlewood , and okay. Mark littlewood, and just for those out there listening, 50 to 1 shots include grant shapps, michael gove, jeremy hunt , grant shapps, michael gove, jeremy hunt, andrea grant shapps, michael gove, jeremy hunt , andrea jenkyns, jeremy hunt, andrea jenkyns, Jacob Rees Mogg and liz truss. Nigel farage hed be a longer shot. Would he . Oh, well, thats really interesting. I mean, nigel. Gb news. Presenter like yourself. Martin. He is keeping us guessing, isnt he . Hes being his usual teasing self. We dont quite know whether hell run for the reform party. We dont quite know whether he might in future join the conservative party. But probably the most influential character in british politics over the last 15 years. And now definitely the most intriguing character over the next 15 months or so. What nigel farage decides ultimately to do, i think, could be an extremely influential impact on the next general election. And what happens next. Okay, we have to leave it there. Thats the director of popcorn, mark and i just found out nigel farage is actually 25 to 1, so hes half the odds of all those names i just mentioned. Stranger things happen. Mark littlewood, always a thanks for your a pleasure. Thanks for your time. Us the show. Time. Joining us on the show. Now, dont go anywhere because we set for a summer we could be set for a summer hosepipe ban this summer, even though weve been up to our necks in rain in the entire winter for the wettest winter on record , im Martin Daubney on gb record, im Martin Daubney on gb news, britains news channel welcome back. Its 551. Im Martin Daubney. This is gb news now. Can you believe it . We could be set for a hosepipe ban this summer. Despite having had the winter on record. The wettest winter on record. Experts say this is because no major reservoirs have been built in britain in the past 30 years, meaning that water is not being stored properly. Well, i can now get the view of meteorologist and friend of the show, jim dale. Jim, why . Why are we so dale. Jim, why . Why are we so terrible at planning for absolutely inevitable things like we cant store water when theres loads of it and use it when theres not much of it . Yeah. Its. Yeah. Its. Well, good afternoon. First of all, martin, youre right in terms of the disability of this country and maybe other countries as well, to do the right thing by what we would call , the basics of life. Call, the basics of life. Can we say that water, water usage. Because thats about where we are with it. Now, look, this is are with it. Now, look, this is a bit of a double whammy. So the first part of it is the infrastructure itself. Youve mentioned the lack reservoirs mentioned the lack of reservoirs , that may well be true. It probably is true as the population has, increased reservoirs havent , and at the reservoirs havent, and at the same time, im not sure that the leakage problem has got any better either. So just as theres a sewage problem, theres a leakage problem. And , and thats your first and, and thats your first side of it. So i guess that goes to down that back down to the government and to Water Companies themselves. Themselves. The second one, youve kind of it a and of mentioned it in a way, and thats the climate or at least whether, per se, in terms of what its so yeah, youre what its doing. So yeah, youre right, october 2022 to march 2024 figures have just been released, released, and england as at its wettest 18 month penod as at its wettest 18 month period since 1836. Who would have guessed that . Because exactly what climatologists have been saying that were testing for during the cooler months of the year, and that this would happen and a presto, its happened. So happen and a presto, its happened. So you get that, then we move into a summer situation later. Not yet, well , were later. Not yet, well, were supposed to get the exact opposite by that i mean drought, searing soaring temperatures , searing soaring temperatures, massive evaporation rates. So you go from the, you go from the feast, proverbially speaking, to the famine, and thats why this call has been made. I think it came out of the times, actually. But but whoevers made the call, thats why theyre making it. Whether this whether it will happen this yean whether it will happen this year, not sure it will year, im not so sure it will depend on how this summer, thats out, how we actually get there and what actually, what actually occurs. But i should say now, we are slightly on our own. By that i mean northwestern europe in terms of enduring cool, wet weather, because a lot of other places are seeing extremely hot weather record temperatures even for time temperatures even for this time of year. Of year. Okay, jim, im afraid were gonna were gonna have to leave it there. Jim thought you it there. Jim i thought you blame Climate Change rather blame on Climate Change rather than getting bigger than just getting a bigger bucket all this water bucket to store all this water weve thank very weve got now. Thank you very much thats me. Dewbs much. Thats it from me. Dewbs co bev turner is up next. Co with bev turner is up next. Dont forget, join us from 6 am. On breakfast. Thats followed by britains newsroom 930, tom emily at 930, and then tom and emily at 12 till three. Im back tomorrow at 3 pm. Im Martin Daubney. First, its time for your weather burkill. Weather with alex burkill. A brighter outlook with boxt solar sponsors of weather on. Gb news. Hello. Welcome to your latest gb news. Weather update brought to you by the met office across some central southern parts. There will be a bit of sunshine tomorrow, but otherwise its looking and theres looking pretty wet and theres some to come tonight as some rain to come tonight as well. Because have well. Thats because we have an area to the area of low pressure to the southwest and is southwest of us, and that is driving a feature northwards as we through the rest of today. We go through the rest of today. So ending the day across parts of ireland, northern of Northern Ireland, Northern England, mostly dry note. Of Northern Ireland, northern engirain. Mostly dry note. Of Northern Ireland, northern engirain in mostly dry note. Of Northern Ireland, northern engirain in the mostly dry note. Of Northern Ireland, northern engirain in the southwest note. Of Northern Ireland, northern engirain in the southwest willy. But rain in the southwest will feed across much of feed its way across much of england, wales and into Northern Ireland with some ireland overnight, with some persistent rain continuing across eastern parts of scotland, bringing a bit of hill snow over the Higher Ground. Here, temperatures not dropping much of us because of much for many of us because of the unsettled although the unsettled weather. Although a of frost is possible a touch of frost is possible across far of across the far north of scotland, many areas then waking up tomorrow morning a pretty up tomorrow morning to a pretty wet and staying wet across wet start and staying wet across northern with northern parts, with some further , at times heavy and further, at times heavy and persistent rain further south, though a drier picture. Yes, there will be a few showers around, but we should also see some bright or sunny spells developing in any sunshine. Feeling pleasantly warm. Highs of 16 celsius but colder of around 16 celsius but colder further north and feeling it in the wet and the windy weather here later on as we go through tomorrow afternoon into the evening, a swathe of more persistent rain is going to affect parts of devon, cornwall and into south wales as well. Looking through the rest looking ahead through the rest of and the unsettled of the week and the unsettled picture fact, it picture does remain. 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