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Ditch sunak in favour of bojo to rescue their chances at the next election . Ill be joined by arch bofis election . Ill be joined by arch boris , royalist tory mp michael boris, royalist tory mp michael fabncant boris, royalist tory mp Michael Fabricant and this is a bit special in my take at ten. Labours deputy leader Angela Rayneris labours deputy leader Angela Rayner is struggling to close the door on her growing Council House mystery. Ill be revealing some shocking details about a potential scandal for Keir Starmers number two that just wont go away. A very busy show. Two hours of big opinion, big debate and big entertainment. Angela rayner at ten. You wont want to miss it. But first, the News Headlines and ray addison. Thanks, mark. Here are our top stories from the gb newsroom. Two people have been arrested on suspicion of preventing a lawful and decent burial in yorkshire. The burial in yorkshire. The branches of legacy independent Funeral Directors in hull and east riding remain cordoned off. Thats after concern for care of the deceased was reported on wednesday. Humberside police says 34 bodies have now been respectfully transported to a mortuary for formal identification. The 46 year old man and a 23 year old woman are being questioned. They are also suspected of fraud by false representation and fraud by abuse of position. Police say an abuse of position. Police say an incident at Buckingham Palace is not being treated as terror related. Armed officers detained a man in the early hours of yesterday morning after a car crashed into the gates. He was arrested on suspicion of criminal damage, then released on bail and has been sectioned under the Mental Health act. Under the Mental Health act. Pro Palestinian Protesters are being warned they could be lending credence to extremists. Lending credence to extremists. The communities secretary is urging people to question which groups are organising the marches. Michael gove, who is due to publish a new official definition of extremism , told definition of extremism, told the sunday telegraph theres no excuse for ignorance and that good hearted demonstrators need to be aware they risk fuelling hate. Londons Jewish Community hate. Londons Jewish Community has braved Rainy Weather to demand the release of hostages being held in gaza. They joined being held in gaza. They joined jews around the world, blowing shofars traditional rams horns, which are normally used at the holiest moments of the jewish calendar. The last pause in fighting between israel and hamas was back in november, when hamas was back in november, when hamas released more than 100 hostages. Its believed that hamas still holds around 134 people kidnapped during the october 7th terror attacks. A october 7th terror attacks. A group of mothers are staging a Hunger Strike outside parliament. The five day protest aims to draw attention to parents who cant afford to eat and are skipping meals to feed their children, their list of demands include enforcing Free School Meals and universal credit to guarantee lifes essentials. Mps are due to essentials. Mps are due to address this issue on tuesday. Address this issue on tuesday. And finally, the princess of wales has thanked the public for their support as the first photo of the royal was published after her abdominal surgery. The image, posted on social media to mark mothers day, was taken by the prince of wales in windsor earlier on this week. Sitting down, princess catherine is surrounded by her children prince george, Princess Charlotte and prince louis. She was admitted to hospital on january 16th and left two weeks later following a planned operation. Shes expected to operation. Shes expected to return to her royal duties after easter. Well, for the latest easter. Well, for the latest stories, sign up to gb news alerts by scanning the qr code on your screen or go to gb news common alerts. Now back to. Mark. My thanks to ray addison. My thanks to ray addison. Welcome to a busy mark dolan tonight in my big opinion , as tonight in my big opinion, as a man is arrested for saying that hamas are terrorists. British hamas are terrorists. British policing has lost the plot. Whose side are our hapless cops on in the big story . Tory on in the big story . Tory clamours for a return of Boris Johnson to frontline politics are getting louder. Do they ditch sunak in favour of bojo to rescue their chances at the next election . Ill be joined by arch election . Ill be joined by arch bofis election . Ill be joined by arch boris loyalist tory mp Michael Fabricant. My mark meets guest. What a booking for the show. Former Prime Minister Mikhail Kasyanov , who served under kasyanov, who served under vladimir for putin four years, who will win the war in ukraine, is world war iii still a risk . And is Vladimir Putin an evil man . In my take a ten, labours deputy leader Angela Rayner is struggling to close the door on her growing Council House. Mystery ill be revealing some shocking details about a potential scandal for Keir Starmers number two that just wont go away. Meanwhile, is wont go away. Meanwhile, is rishi sunak right to squeeze benefits to fund tax cuts for workers . Ill be asking workers . Ill be asking tonights newsmaker, the formidable Ann Widdecombe. Plus, formidable Ann Widdecombe. Plus, as a former home office minister, ill be asking ann whether the police have lost control of extremism in this country. Weve got tomorrows front pages at 10. 30 sharp tonight, with three top pundits who havent been told what to say and who dont follow the script. And theyve got proper pedigree. Former bbc chief Political Correspondent John Sergeant, journalist and Communications Adviser linda jubilee and former labour special adviser Paul Richards. Special adviser Paul Richards. Now good news the First Official photo since her operation. Princess catherine, the princess of wales, is pictured with her children on mothering sunday. Well get reaction from a top royal insider. Plus, well get reaction from a top royal insider. Plus, the well get reaction from a top royal insider. Plus, the most important part of the show your emails. They come straight to my laptop mark at gbnews. Com and of course it is mothers day, so can i wish all the mums out there a very happy mothers day. This is me with my darling mummy wishing her all the best. I saw her a few hours ago, weve got producer maria with her lovely mum liz. Who . I who ive met a few times. She listens to my podcast, the mark dolan way. Well done, liz and my other brilliant producer katie, with her gorgeous mum, kath. So what i want is pictures of your mum. If youre lucky enough to have your mum still with you in your life, send pictures of your mum. Or if youve lost your mum and you want her remembered, either way, picture of your way, send a picture of your darling to me mark at gb darling mums to me mark at gb news. Com thats right mark pictures. So mum pictures to mark at gbnews. Com. This show has a golden rule by the way. Before we start do you know what that golden rule is . What is the golden rule of mark dolan tonight . Well, if youre new to tonight . Well, if youre new to the programme and there are lots of people are new to the of people who are new to the programme, we absolutely thrashed sky news on the show last well, last night. And why . Well, because do boring. Not because we dont do boring. Not on watch. I just wont have on my watch. I just wont have it. And to lorena at ten you wont want to miss it. A big two hours to come. We start with my big opinion. I love our Police Officers, but im getting sick to the back teeth of our Police Forces. Remember the absurdity forces. Remember the absurdity of the pandemic with Derbyshire Police flying drones over the countryside to find people out walking . An old lady arrested for sitting on a bench at the seaside drinking a coffee. People apprehended for queuing for sandwiches in farmers markets , people being harassed markets, people being harassed in supermarkets and on trains for not wearing one of those filthy, worthless masks. The filthy, worthless masks. The policing of a bizarre 10 pm. Curfew in pubs. It was all an utter shambles , a stupid utter shambles, a stupid pandemic. Policies which have destroyed the country and enforced by gormless cops. What enforced by gormless cops. What about the pathetic spectacle of Police Officers in wakefield, west yorkshire, sat there at a hastily assembled press conference where local clerics berated an autistic child for accidentally scuffing a copy of the quran. The officers sat there nodding like the churchill dog, lending credence to what was a ridiculous Kangaroo Court and the enforcement of a blasphemy law by the back door. What about cops asking insulate britain nutjobs whether theyd like a cup of tea or a sandwich after theyd glued their hands to the motorway . Or what about to the motorway . Or what about cops dancing on the streets with Extinction Rebellion protesters whose only real ambition is the extinction of the british economy and our way of life. These are the same Police Forces that have wasted thousands of pounds on those absurd, rainbow painted cop cars and raided peoples homes for hurty tweets and unkind facebook posts. Now the officers are doing their best. Its a National Scandal that, while so much focus is on doctors and nurses, pay our bobbies on the beat have been under remunerated for two decades. If i was in charge, i would pay coppers far more, but i would also completely change the culture of policing and heads would roll at the top like some arc. Roly, the ineffectual met police chief who has presided over those alleged peace marches which have left jewish people in britain afraid to leave their homes, and where hateful thugs, including those calling for an intifada which means suicide bombers on public transport and in shops being allowed to run amok. Transport and in shops being allowed to run amok. And if it allowed to run amok. And if it was possible, yesterday we saw an even lower point for british policing with an iranian man called Niyak Ghorbani now living in the uk, arrested for the great crime of waving a placard which read hamas are terrorists now calling Hamas Terrorists is hardly a controversial view unless , of course, you work for unless, of course, you work for the bbc. Hamas are a proscribed terror outfit. According to the uk government. Terror outfit. According to the uk government. But terror outfit. According to the uk government. But hold terror outfit. According to the uk government. But hold up a sign that says that in Central London and youll have your collar felt. Now, the argument collar felt. Now, the argument from the police is that this guy was agitating the crowd, but let me suggest that if saying that hamas are terrorists would agitate the crowd, surely its the crowd that you should be worried about. Not this anti hamas protestor who was manhandled and injured. Take a look again at that nasty cut on his leg. Thats a serious injury there. Poor bloke. Now this guy there. Poor bloke. Now this guy was later de arrested , whatever was later de arrested, whatever that means. Is that like when Gwyneth Paltrow and chris martin consciously uncoupled . Now those numpties at the met police offered a mealy mouthed statement. Here it is, they said. A video has been posted on x alleging officers arrested a man for having an anti hamas placard. This is not accurate. He was arrested after an altercation was ongoing and officers intervened to prevent a breach of the peace. He was arrested for assault, but here we go. Are you ready for the u turn officers . Then fully reviewed footage provided of the incidents and he was later de arrested the arrest was not made in relation to the placard. Made in relation to the placard. Sorry, i dont buy it either way. Extremism has been allowed to proliferate on britains streets in the name of peaceful protest. If jews are afraid to protest. If jews are afraid to leave their house, the protest is not peaceful. If mps are afraid to vote a certain way in afraid to vote a certain way in a house of commons division for fear of violent reprisals, which is what sir keir starmer reportedly told the speaker of the house the protests are not peaceful. If you can project the peaceful. If you can project the words from the river to the sea, which to anyone with half a brain clearly means the elimination of israel, then these protests are not peaceful. These protests are not peaceful. In fact, theyre so against the law that the police should be enforcing them. But theyre not. And look what happened today. Take a look at this. Met Police Officers, stop and harass a jewish man for holding a for israel against anti semitism sign. Now why is this guy being manhandled and why is a message against anti semitism upsetting those on the so called peace march . Anyway okay, ill allow you to make your own conclusions now we have the best police women and men in the world, but the culture and leadership of our Police Forces is failing. British law, failing British Values and failing british democracy. The met police were once branded as institutionally racist. Well, now theyre institutionally useless. Your institutionally useless. Your reaction, mark at gb news. Com and dont forget to get me your pictures of your mothers over. It is mothers day, so pictures of your mum mark at gbnews. Com. Lets hear from tonights top punst lets hear from tonights top pundits now. Former bbc chief Political Correspondent John Sergeant, journalist and Communications Adviser linda jubilee. And last but certainly jubilee. And last but certainly not least, former labour special adviser Paul Richards. Now, adviser Paul Richards. Now, folks, great to have you with me in the studio. Linda, can i start with you . Your reaction to the arrest and then the arrest of this man whose great crime was a placard which was holding up a placard which said , hamas are terrorists . Said, hamas are terrorists . Clearly the placard, well, clearly the placard, was , correct. I mean, what he was, correct. I mean, what he said, hamas are terrorists is correct because hamas is defined as a terrorist group by this country. Therefore, there was nothing wrong with the bbc got there in the end, didnt they . Yes. Yeah, but a lot. The ft says exactly the same as the ft. Yeah. And sky news and sky news. So i dont think we can single the bbc out. We dont really worry about sky news do we. Do. No, worry about all we do. No, we worry about all these particularly on these things, particularly on this i dont this programme where i dont think we have quite the same audience as bbc. Audience as the bbc. Not a much well, hopefully not a much smarter but the smarter audience, but so the placard was okay. Clearly what the police but clearly what the police were about, because were worried about, because thats only thing the thats not the only thing the question about the placard was, was it litigious . In was it litigious . Was it in fact, its the written so fact, its the written word. So was it is not was it liable as it is not liable as it is regarded as a correct statement . So thats not going to be a problem. The problem was, was that guy likely to hatred to incite, incite racial hatred or why the or violence. And thats why the Police Stopped him. They cuffed him. I assume that him. Which means i assume that they then arrested him, cautioned him, and took him away. Probably he was safer being taken away. The question is, why didnt they arrest some of the other people that set upon him and caused, for example, that injury . Now why didnt that happen . I assume because fear that if they because they fear that if they did start arresting those people, the whole situation would explode. Paul richards, youre shaking your head. It reminds me of that scene in a few good men where the you know, the killer argument in the court was , well, why did you court was, well, why did you need to get santiago off the baseif need to get santiago off the base if he safe . And why did base if he was safe . And why did that have to removed for that man have to be removed for his safety . If those people his own safety . If those people were not or even overt were not tacit or even overt supporters hamas . Can supporters of hamas . If you can hold up and not be hold the sign up and not be bothered by anybody, then that would fine. The idea that would be fine. But the idea that he was at some threat for making a perfectly obvious claim, which is hamas is a terrorist is that hamas is a terrorist organisation, he had be organisation, he had to be removed for his own safety, tells everything you need tells you everything you need to know the people on the know about the people on the demonstrations. Doesnt it . I mean, can definitely. I mean, we can all agree are plenty of all agree there are plenty of people been those people that have been on those marches those marches marches and are on those marches who an end to fighting. Who want an end to the fighting. They children and babies to they want children and babies to stop indeed. Stop being murdered. Indeed. But but of this suggests but the flavour of this suggests that there are a good number, more than just a small minority on these marches who seem be on these marches who seem to be sympathetic to well, sympathetic to hamas. Well, Vladimir Lenin had a famous phrase, did he not . Which was the idea of useful idiots, people who go along with these things because they think its a sort nice thing to be its a sort of nice thing to be involved in. And, you know, were all against war, arent we . Actually, youre we . But actually, youre being used nasty people. Used by some quite nasty people. This point that michael this is the point that michael gove today to provide gove is making today to provide cover for insidious organisations that are not in tune with our values and in fact, may even be pro terrorists. So thats the whole point. Yeah. And it is worrying. Ive been observing these demonstrations in Central London. Theyre not nice places to be. You cant walk freely around trafalgar and around Trafalgar Square and elsewhere, happening in elsewhere, and its happening in many town centres as many of our town centres as well, not just in well, actually not just in london. Its making these london. And its making these unsafe spaces. I had a meeting, if you and i had a meeting, if you like , with a very Senior Member like, with a very Senior Member of Jewish Military of the Jewish Military community, if you like, ex military person, and i hadnt until that point realised the depth of fear that exists in the Jewish Community now because of these huge marches. Its really palpable. Yeah and its very, very worrying. Tory mp andrew percy said that he feels safer in israel than in the United Kingdom at the moment. John sergeant, the police are trying to keep the peace, but the optics of this is that they are placating the mob. Well yeah, no, all these points youre making are perfectly reasonable. Reasonable. But its a question of what should the police do in these circumstances are very high controversial issues. Youve got tens of thousands of people involved. The police have a duty, emphasised by the Prime Minister to make sure that riots dont break out that order is not broken, and that the day ends with the police being able to say there were no serious incidents. Its no serious, incidents. Its no serious, dangerous incidents in the police. Now that is an achievement whether you like it or not. This is not to say, oh, does that mean all the people on the march were lovely . Does that the march were lovely . Does that mean that there were no extremists involved . Course extremists involved . Of course there were all sorts of people with sorts of backgrounds, with all sorts of backgrounds, including many jewish people taking is taking part. So the mistake is to that the police, that to imagine that the police, that the individual Police Constable, his job is to look, to make sure is there a danger that this could turn into a riot . Not the whole thing, but in this particular area. Now, if someone is producing an anti hamas placard at that point, they are frankly being deliberately provocative doesnt mean to say its right or provocative. No, no, because of the nature, the context in which the context used. Of course its not. It its absolutely, perfectly straightforward, as you say, completely truthful, not illegal, all that kind of thing. Youre not worried about the people who are upset by the placard. What im worried about is the idea that the Police Constable or the police generally are sitting there thinking, oh, weve people weve got 10,000 people here taking part in demonstrations, but i think we may have to arrest all of them. You dont do that. You are a policeman saying in context, what should in this context, what should i do make sure that there isnt do to make sure that there isnt a riot . Its miraculous. And they then didnt charge the guy. It wasnt formally charged. They knew perfectly well they were taking him out of the situation. There question of him there was no question of him then arrested formally. Then being arrested formally. I also work very now i also work very occasionally with a Counter Terrorism expert. Metropolitan police Counter Terrorism expert, who has said to very recently he has said to me very recently he believes that we are due another incident quite soon. I mean, he needs a Major Incident like a terror attack. Frankly. Does he mean frankly. Does he mean a terror attack . He does, of course. All Security Experts discuss this kind of thing. Frankly. This is the fifth protest. I think its a miracle. Nothing has exploded before now. Its also a lot of restrained people, not only those taking part in the march , but a lot of part in the march, but a lot of restraint, generally to make sure that this highly controversial, very difficult subject involving tens of thousands of people in london. Well, if you just put all those together as ingredients in other places, thered be cs gas, there would be all kinds of things , would be all kinds of things, career riots that would go on. Well, thousands of people would have been arrested. Thats we dont have that in london. Interesting point is, John Sergeant. Actually sergeant. Right. That actually the marches the policing of these marches has been largely successful. Let me know your thoughts. Mark, at gbnews. Com. But next up in the big story, tory clamours for a return of Boris Johnson to frontline politics are getting louder. Do they ditch sunak in louder. Do they ditch sunak in favour of bojo to rescue their chances at the next election . Ill be joined by archewell bofis ill be joined by archewell boris loyalist tory mp michael fabncant. Next. Ill be dealing with Angela Raynerin ill be dealing with Angela Rayner in no Uncertain Terms at 10 00. And the mystery surrounding the sale of her house nine years ago. But first, its mothers day, so im delighted to say that ive got lots of pictures of your mums. Lots of pictures of your mums. This is annop and risha. Gorgeous ladies that they are. This is chris and his lovely mummy and esther and her darling mummy and esther and her darling mum too. Look at those gorgeous ladies enjoying a fabulous lunch. Brilliant stuff. Weve got all lots more of your mum emails to come, also a couple of emails. Big response to my big opinion. It looks like the police have lost control of extremism on those marches, mark says the police have one job to arrest anybody breaking the law not to make politically based decisions about who to apprehend , elaine about who to apprehend, elaine says so. The mob rules us now , says so. The mob rules us now, thatis says so. The mob rules us now, that is what John Sergeant is effectively saying. And last but not least, linda, who says , not least, linda, who says, mark, john and linda jubilee are right. Police want to make sure right. Police want to make sure unrest does not break out. The police want to keep crowds calm. Although the guy with the placard correct , he was placard was correct, he was aggravating the crowd that he was amongst. Aggravating the crowd that he was amongst. Thank you for that. Keep those emails coming. Its time now for the big story and this one just wont go away with todays sunday papers reporting a plot to bring boris a secret plot to bring Boris Johnson back before the next election to rescue the conservatives one possible scenario, as reported in the express , is that mr johnson express, is that mr johnson could be parachuted into his former constituency of henley pnor former constituency of henley prior to an expected election in november of this year, the paper report. One backbencher as saying there are many in the party who dont think we have a hopein party who dont think we have a hope in hell of winning unless bofis hope in hell of winning unless boris comes back. So whether as leader or as a campaigning backbenchen leader or as a campaigning backbencher, could the return of bofis backbencher, could the return of Boris Johnson save the tories . Lets get the views now of a man who supported Boris Johnson loyally throughout his premiership. The conservative mp for lichfield , michael for lichfield, Michael Fabricant. Michael, great to see you. The fabricant. Michael, great to see you. The tories have nothing to lose. Bring back boris. Yeah, bring back boris i agree, but im not saying we should get rid of rishi sunak ehheni should get rid of rishi sunak either. I think they could both work well together. I think theyve both got different skills. You know, rishi is very, very steady. He knows what he needs to achieve in the next few months and years. And boris has got that pizzazz. And maybe got that pizzazz. And maybe sometimes, you know, that Long Distance view which others dont have. So yeah, lets bring back boris. But the question is how . How do we do that . Well, indeed. What are the logistics . Do you think he could logistics . Do you think he could find a safe seat before the election . Election . Yeah, there are a number of seats where mps are standing down. Some, of course, are ones which are not winnable or they think theyre not winnable. Others are very safe seats. Im standing in lichfield, though. Im not giving mine up. But you know, you talked about henley, which of course was his former seat. There has already been a candidate selected there and i dont know whether she would be prepared to give her seat up for boris, but, there will be other seats. There always are. Before every general election in, theres always a number of people go at the very last minute. And if boris could get one of those, if he wants to get one of those, if he wants to get one of those, i think it would be very good for the conservative party and good for rishi sunak too. Now, michael, youll clearly almost certainly be returned as the member of parliament for lichfield because your constituents are so happy and youre a very, very successful local mp. But should the conservatives collapse at the next election, do you think that if Boris Johnson finds himself back in the commons , hed be in pole the commons, hed be in pole position to become leader once again . Again . It could be, it could be. But of course there are a number of others who were interested in that job too. If theyre re elected. Im talking about people like penny mordaunt. People like penny mordaunt. Suella braverman. I mean, i could name a number of people Kemi Badenoch who . Pardon Kemi Badenoch. Pardon Kemi Badenoch. Pardon Kemi Badenoch. Kemi badenoch. Absolutely. And others too , that i think and others too, that i think others are not even talking about at the moment. Would im sorry to interrupt you, michael would if, the tories collapse the next election needed a new leader and boris was in the commons, would he be top of your list . I think commons, would he be top of your list . I think he would be near the top. You know, honestly, you the top. You know, honestly, you know what . When i first, decided, you know, who i was going to have to vote for, i didnt originally support boris, but then i backed boris when he was Prime Minister because he had the long terme view, you know, whether it was our relationship with the United States, whether it was getting us out of the European Union and, yes , by making sure that we and, yes, by making sure that we were the first country in the world to have a Vaccine Program against covid. All of that was under boriss watch. He got the under boriss watch. He got the big, big answers. Right . So yeah, he would be one of the people at the very top of my list. List. Okay, well listen, lets get the views. I dont even want to think about it. You know what . 40 of people havent even decided yet how theyre going to vote, keir starmer , we know that rishi starmer, we know that rishi sunak lags in popularity behind the conservative party, but whats not generally known is that keir starmer is lagging behind the labour party. So, you know, theres a lot of ifs , buts know, theres a lot of ifs, buts and ands over the next few months. Well stay there, michael. Let me bring in my fantastic pundits tonight. Former bbc chief Political Correspondent John Sergeant , journalist and sergeant, journalist and Communications Adviser linda jubilee and former labour special adviser Paul Richards. Will a return of Boris Johnson to the house of commons would labour would have labour running scared, wouldnt it . Paul richards can i just make an announcement on behalf of the entire Labour Movement . Entire Labour Movement . Please, please, please bring back Boris Johnson. It would be the best thing ever for us. It would guarantee the next election being won labour. It election being won by labour. It would everyone too much would remind everyone too much and the protest too much. Paul, because of partygate and all of that. And he would remind everyone why got rid of him everyone why they got rid of him in the place. Bring him in the first place. Bring him back, please. M back, please. Okay, listen, what do you think this, john . Think about this, john . Sergeant, you agree with sergeant, do you agree with michael that Boris Johnson and rishi could Work Together rishi sunak could Work Together to win the next election . Well, ho. 110. No. The problem about it is if you assume this is a working assumption , that the tories are assumption, that the tories are going to lose the big question after the election is who was to blame and therefore what you dont want to be if youre Boris Johnson, youve got any sense is to make sure that youre not, in fact, somehow going to take the blame for what could be a catastrophic concern of defeat. Much better keep your powder dry now, boris is whatever else you can say about him is a highly intelligent man. He knows a great deal about politics. He wont be stupid enough to fall for this. Okay, linda, briefly, if you can, do you share the view that the conservatives will suffer a crushing defeat . Or do you think that michaels right . Crushing defeat . Or do you think that michaels right . The that michaels right . The outcome is yet to be decided. Its interesting what he says about the 40 being undecided and theres no doubt that there is such a thing as shy tories. Tories who have not voted yet. We dont know how theyll vote, but at the moment theres a 20 point lead in the polls for keir starmer. Thats very, very important. And actually if you listen to Rachel Reeves and how the labour party have built links with the city, with Financial Institutions , with big Financial Institutions, with big business, with the corporate world, i think that that kind of thing is very encouraging and very confidence building for the public. Very confidence building for the pubuc. Cani very confidence building for the public. Can i say one thing though . I agree with jacob rees mogg. I mean, boris is rees mogg. I mean, boris is a great campaigner, so there wouldnt be any problem bringing him back for the campaign for the general election. But i cant, example, see him cant, for example, see him being parachuted into the henley seat, Caroline Newton im sure wants to hang on to being the next candidate there. All right, briefly, michael , all right, briefly, michael, when do you think the date of the election will be . Do you think its likely to be november . Now, wheres your money . Yeah, my moneys on october or november. It was never may. More importantly, in may, weve got to get my friend andy street re elected in the west midlands. So thats what im concentrating on, michael , so thats what im concentrating on, michael, well so thats what im concentrating on, michael , well catch up on, michael, well catch up soon. Thank you so much for joining us. The mp for lichfield , Michael Fabricant. Next up, the First Official photo since her operation. Princess catherine is pictured with her children on mothering sunday. Well get reaction from a top royal next. Ill be dealing with the mystery of Angela Rayners house sale. In my take at ten. You wont want to miss it. Its extraordinary stuff. But its also mothers day as weve got lovely pictures of your mums. This is paul and his mum and two siblings in 1949. What a fine woman your mum was, paul. How about this . Thomas sent in this photo of his lovely late mother, maureen , lovely maureen and maureen, lovely maureen and louise and her mum doing a charity walk. Well done ladies. Charity walk. Well done ladies. Now a big day for royal news with the palace sharing a fabulous photograph of princess catherine with her three children on mothers day. Still children on mothers day. Still recovering from her abdominal procedure in hospital, the princess of wales is pictured looking fresh, healthy and happy with her husband Prince William. Having taken the photograph. Lets get reaction now from a very special man. A good friend of mine. He is the ex royal butler grant harold grant. Lovely to see you and lovely to see that photograph of princess catherine looking very well with her lovely children. Her lovely children. Absolutely. Good evening mark. Thank you for mine. Its great to see that. It was a it was a nice surprise, actually, because theres been so much speculation. Can i say rumours , speculation. Can i say rumours, discussions about where she is, whats happening. And i think whats happening. And i think this is actually a really its a nice thing that theyve done. I dont think its, suddenly been planned. These kind of things planned. These kind of things i think are planned in advance. So the fact this was taken the other week, interestingly , other week, interestingly, catherine is the photographer. William. Even my memories, i dont remember why hed been much of a photographer. Hes obviously decided to take the picture and its nicely done. Its a very nice picture. It shows her looking really healthy, happy and hopefully this will stop some of the kind of rumours that are going around at the moment. Well, indeed, theres some pretty nasty rumours going around, about the around, arent there, about the state marriage and state of their marriage and other theories. So other conspiracy theories. So its that palace its important that the palace put that bed. Put that to bed. It is. Its a difficult it is. And its a difficult one because obviously, you know, speaking to ive been speaking to a lot of people about this as well as friends who have who cant understand why this suddenly this kind of silence. And ive tried to explain that its quite a tricky one for them to manage, because obviously they are Senior Members of the royal family, the country, everybody is obviously concerned about her. They want to know that shes safe, that shes well. But from their point of view, they also have to have some privacy. The one thing i remember William Catherine remember william and catherine is very protective is they were very protective about the privacy even when i was and even though they was there. And even though they carry out public engagements as the and princess wales the prince and princess of wales with they are with their family, they are quite, are very guarded quite, they are very guarded when it comes to their home life, their private life. And i can understand that because there has to be a fine line. Otherwise what privacy do they actually the end of the actually get at the end of the day . Most definitely. Meanwhile day . Most deiedinburgh,3nwhile day . Most deiedinburgh, princee the duke of edinburgh, prince edward, his 60th edward, celebrates his 60th birthday a special birthday today with a special promotion from his brother, the king, how well do you know edward . What kind of guy is he . Edward . What kind of guy is he . Do you know he was actually from memory. He was one of the first royals that i ever met before i even worked for the royal family. I was working a scottish estate in scotland. And, he came up there with sophie just before they got married. And they were great fun. He was , absolutely great to fun. He was, absolutely great to kind of be around down to earth, very polite. I think the thing that scares me is he would have been, i want to say about 35, 34 at the time, he was only a few years older than me, and to hear that hes now 60, its a little bit scary. But what a lovely picture. Theres been some nice photographs of him and doesnt he look like his mother . Its quite interesting around the eyes and things. Its quite interesting to see that. See that photograph of him. And as you mentioned, hes always been given this the honour of king, which is nice because he is, you know, he on very well with know, he gets on very well with his and he an his brother and he is an important member of the family as a Senior Member of the royal family. And do carry out family. And they do carry out a lot of engagements, both him and the duchess of edinburgh. And well, definitely. He and sophie quite formidable sophie are quite a formidable double think he gets double act. Do you think he gets the recognition and the exposure that . That he deserves . Not sure, because hes im not sure, because hes hes a bit more of a he hes a Senior Member of the royal family but hes quite he is quite quiet. Hes hes quite a kind of, you know when it comes to royal dufies you know when it comes to royal duties and things. He just gets on with the job and you know he kind of this is what i liked about him. And i think this is what a lot of people admire about him and his wife. Its interesting because is interesting because he is obviously youngest son. But obviously the youngest son. But i that his wife became i noted that his wife became very, very close to his very, very, very close to his mother, the queen, and also to his father. And does he get the his father. And does he get the recognition . Probably not, but he doesnt really look for that. Hes really not like that. And thats something i admired about him. But i think i like to think that the queen and Prince Philip are looking down from somewhere, you know, kind very proud of you know, kind of very proud of what achieved and what what hes achieved and what hes done. The fact done. And, you know, the fact hes that it is quite hes 60s, that it is quite scary. But looks very good scary. But he looks very good for 60. Most definitely. Grant, nice to prince edwards to reflects on prince edwards birthday your company. My birthday in your company. My thanks former royal butler. Thanks to former royal butler. Butler no less. Butler to the king, no less. Grant harold coming up in my take a ten. Labours deputy leader Angela Rayner is struggling close the door on struggling to close the door on her growing Council House mystery. Whats going on . Ill be revealing some shocking details about potential details about a potential scandal Keir Starmers number scandal for Keir Starmers number two that just wont go away. Thats at ten. But next up, my mark meets guest is former russian Prime Minister Mikhail Kasyanov. Served under kasyanov. Yes, he served under Vladimir Putin for four years. Whos going to win the war in ukraine . Is world war iii still a risk . And is Vladimir Putin an evil man . Thats next. Yes, indeed. Evil man . Thats next. Yes, indeed. The former russian prime indeed. The former russian Prime Minister. Next. Dont go anywhere ill ill be dealing with Angela Raynerin ill be dealing with Angela Rayner in no Uncertain Terms at 10 00. And the mystery about the sale of her Council House. Ive got some remarkable revelations. But first, mark meets. And but first, mark meets. And tonight, Mikhail Kasyanov, the former Prime Minister of russia from 2000 to 2004. And mr kasyanov, welcome to mark dolan. Kasyanov, welcome to mark dolan. Tonight, you served as Prime Minister under president Vladimir Putin. What was your opinion of him as a politician and a person during your time in office . Oh, that was that was 2000, 2004, as you correctly mentioned. And that time putin was completely different person. At that time. He was seen as a person devoted to democratic principles. And he promised support to support all reforms. My support to support all reforms. My cabinet initiated. And he, to my cabinet initiated. And he, to a great extent, implemented these promises , supported those these promises, supported those reforms, a part of a couple of them, just for instance, he didnt allow me to pursue gas sector reform or the administrative reform to reduce the state performance or state obligations, Something Like that. But in general terms, he was okay in that time. And nobody could predict that such changes would come to their mind. Well, how has he changed since your time working together . Well, completely. Its well, completely. Its completely different person. As i say, as i said now, now just we can understand that at that time he pretended to be democratically devoted person. But his real, real, real putin, a real kgb agent and ruling, ruling the country. That is awful situation for my for my country. Why did Vladimir Putin invade ukraine, in your view , i think ukraine, in your view, i think we shall see bluntly that its impunity. He invaded in georgia and three months after that divorce, divorce, so called ceasefire plan, but nothing was implemented. And business as usual. And the United States , usual. And the United States, the president obama at that time launched, reset. Lets program launched, reset. Lets program reset policy. But, putin decided reset policy. But, putin decided that, invading into neighbour countries, thats a normality for him. And thats why he just easily annexed crimea in 2014. And even there at that time, just reaction was not so, so harsh. So that as supposed to be harsh. So that as supposed to be in that time and now just we come to this awful situation, just full fledged or full full scale invasion in independent ukraine and just already considerable part of territory occupied by putins putins regime. Regime. Mr kasyanov, is the west in any way responsible for russias actions in the region , for the invasion . I think to a certain extent, yes. As i said , the policy of, yes. As i said, the policy of, i would say keeping putin satisfied with the economic projects like like pipelines to, to Continental Europe and other, very profitable transactions, just, the western leaders believed that putin would be preoccupied with this and would never create a threat for neighbouring countries, but appeared to be different. Putin appeared to be different. Putin understood that it is allowed to for him to do to do this, as i said, georgia, crimea and then just ukraine. If he not stopped in ukraine, he would go further on, mr kasyanov, what do you think will be the outcome of the war in ukraine . Oh, i think first we should believe that ukraine would be capable to defend its territorial integrity and sovereignty. And i believe that United States just very soon settled this problem. Internal problem. And with the connection with ukraine, i dont know why why there is such a connection. Im happy that Great Britain government just pursuing just very strong consistent very strong and consistent policy supporting ukraine as European Union did the same. But then transatlantic unity, thats then transatlantic unity, thats the most important thing right now. We need this unity to support ukraine because just on the territory of ukraine, just west defending there, i would say, the world order, liberal world order existed after the second world war. I think just we shouldnt allow to putin destroy the whole structure of, of, security, european security. If donald trump re enters the white house in november, is a peace deal with russia more likely . Does putin have more respect for donald trump . I dont think that that that plays a role, that respect , that a role, that respect, that respect, thats pressure. If putin allows to go further on that, that that will be his his victory. We shouldnt we his victory. We shouldnt we shouldnt allow this. I dont think just that president trump, if in office again would , find if in office again would, find a solution in a shortly because we should press putin so that he will stop this, this aggression. Will stop this, this aggression. And we need consistency and predictability. But it doesnt seem that donald trump, just on that line , youve suggested that that line, youve suggested that Vladimir Putin could possibly go beyond ukraine if allowed. What are Vladimir Putins future ambitions, do you think . What is his vision for the future of russia . Future of russia . I think that its very evident that next step , southern evident that next step, southern part of ukraine and then moldova, that is, as he just said, some naval russia or just, said, some naval russia orjust, russian, russian territories as he believes, and his so called lectures of history. He building up himself the history and if its allowed and also just. No i would say adequate response to that then he will try to test article five of nato charter. Article five of nato charter. Thatis article five of nato charter. That is one or another small nato country could be a subject of such invasion of such provocation. Not necessarily. Not necessarily invasion , but not necessarily invasion, but some kind of some kind of provocation. Provocation. Mr kasyanov, youve said that when you served under president Vladimir Putin from 2000 to 2004, he disguised the fact that he was undemocratic. He pretended to engage with elections and the democratic process. But in the end, you said he was just a true kgb type personality , does he have personality, does he have a personality, does he have a personality disorder . Is Vladimir Putin an evil man . Vladimir putin an evil man . We should we should say, as i said now, just not necessarily call it an evil, but we should. He he is seen like a fanatic , he he is seen like a fanatic, bunded he he is seen like a fanatic, blinded by his impunity. That is very dangerous position. Very dangerous position. So you think hes power crazed rather than mad or evil, perhaps. Exactly, exactly. Was the us broadcaster Tucker Carlson right to interview him at the kremlin , to interview him at the kremlin, i think i, i to interview him at the kremlin, ithink i, i dont to interview him at the kremlin, i think i, i dont quite understand that to create such a platform , to give such platform, to give such a platform, to give such a platform wide platform for for, a dictator to explaining just to have this propaganda. He didnt have this propaganda. He didnt say anything new for those who following just putins speeches, but he tried to pursue this through just important tv. Us tv channel just to, to to, voters, for upcoming elections. And i for upcoming elections. And i think just he mostly worked for, for water of donald trump. I dont know whether it will help , dont know whether it will help, donald trump to raise, to raise his popularity or not. I dont know, but its , it didnt, know, but its, it didnt, didnt provide just a lot of , i didnt provide just a lot of, i would say, promises or just any would say, promises orjust any insights or information. Just. Yes. Usual propaganda. Briefly, mr kasyanov, the clock is against us. A very grateful for your time, we cant have much hope that those elections in russia are going to be free and fair. But is there a chance that at some point Vladimir Putin could be removed from power , of course, these from power, of course, these elections are not elections. Thats imitation of this important institution, but its simply a reintegration of mr putin by himself. But i dont see that there is a chance in the upcoming future. But in any case, putin is not forever. It case, putin is not forever. It means just we should be prepared for, for to change russia again to, to bring russia back to, to the trajectory of democratic of building democracy. Building democracy. And on that we can agree a privilege to have you on the show, sir. My thanks to Mikhail Kasyanov, who is the former Prime Minister of russia from 2000 to 2004. What an extraordinary conversation that 2000 to 2004. What an extrayour ary conversation that 2000 to 2004. What an extrayour reaction . Rsation that 2000 to 2004. What an extrayour reaction . Marketthat 2000 to 2004. What an extrayour reaction . Market gb was. Your reaction . Market gb news. Com. But dont forget, at news. Com. But dont forget, at 10 00 ill be dealing with Angela Rayner. Shes 10 00 ill be dealing with Angela Rayner. Shes struggling to close the door on her growing Council House mystery. Ill be revealing some shocking details. Details about a potential scandal for Keir Starmers number two that just wont go away. Thats right, Angela Rayner in the spotlight of my take at ten. And im not pulling my punches. See you in two. That warm feeling inside from boxt boilers , sponsors of boxt boilers, sponsors of weather on. Gb news. Weather on. Gb news. Hello there. Welcome to your latest gb news Weather Forecast from the met office. Were looking ahead to the new working week. Its going to remain a fairly changeable across the country, but increasingly mild. So as end the weekend weve so as we end the weekend weve still got this area low still got this area of low pressure in charge. It will gradually towards the gradually move towards the continent as we go through into monday. Before get there, monday. But before we get there, weve still got this area of rain stretched right across the country. It will weaken as we go through the course of the night and really, its going to leave behind a lot of mist, murk behind quite a lot of mist, murk and weather. But under and cloudy weather. But under the its not going be the cloud its not going to be a cold night by any means. 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Elsewhere, temperatures a little up on sunday, so a little bit up on sunday, so feeling a little less cold feeling a little bit less cold into tuesday. Another band of rain its way in from the rain works. Its way in from the southwest. The driest and the brightest weather reserved for the far north of scotland throughout the day. Elsewhere increasingly cloudy and wet as the goes on. But it will the day goes on. But it will drag in some milder air. So for everyone in the south by the middle of the week well see temperatures reaching the mid teens. Staying in mid teens. But staying wet in the like things are the north looks like things are heating up boxt boilers sponsors of weather on gb news. Good evening. Its10 00. On television. On radio and online, in the United Kingdom and across the world. This is mark dolan. Tonight in my take at ten, labours deputy leader, Angela Rayneris labours deputy leader, Angela Rayner is struggling to close the door on her growing Council House mystery. Ill be revealing some shocking details about a potential scandal for Keir Starmers number two that just wont go away. Is rishi sunak right to squeeze benefits to fund tax cuts for workers . Ill fund tax cuts for workers . Ill be asking tonights newsmaker, the formidable Ann Widdecombe , the formidable Ann Widdecombe, plus tomorrows newspaper front pages and live reaction in the studio from tonights top pundits. Former bbc chief Political Correspondent John Sergeant, journalist and communicator advisor linda jubilee and former labour insider Paul Richards. So a packed show, lots to get through. Ill be dealing with Angela Raynerin. Ill be dealing with Angela Rayner in no Uncertain Terms in two minutes time. You wont want to miss it. Extraordinary revelations. But first, the news revelations. But first, the news headunes revelations. But first, the News Headlines with someone that always on the right side of the law. Ray addison. Thanks, mark. Good evening. Thanks, mark. Good evening. Our top stories tonight. Three former conservative home secretaries are calling for a political consensus to tackle extremism. Dame priti patel, sir sajid javid and amber rudd have signed a statement urging labour and the tories to Work Together to deal with what theyre calling real threats from islamist extremists , far right islamist extremists, far right extremists and others. It comes as communities secretary michael gove prepares to announce a new government definition of extremism. Other signatories include the former head of Counter Terrorism policing, neil basu. Counter terrorism policing, neil basu. Two people have been basu. Two people have been arrested on suspicion of preventing a lawful and decent burial in yorkshire. The burial in yorkshire. The branches of legacy independent Funeral Directors in hull and east riding remain cordoned off. Thats after concern for care of the deceased was reported to police on wednesday. Humberside police on wednesday. Humberside police says 34 bodies have now been respectfully transported to a mortuary for formal identification. A 46 year old man and a 23 year old woman are being questioned. They are also suspected of fraud by false representation and fraud by abuse position. Police say an abuse of position. Police say an incident at Buckingham Palace is not being treated as terror related. Armed officers detained a man in the early hours of yesterday morning after a car crashed into the gates. No members family were members of the royal family were in residence at the time and repairs to the gate are now underway. The man was arrested on suspicion of criminal damage, then bail, and has then released on bail, and has been sectioned under the Mental Health. A group of Mothers Health act. A group of mothers are Hunger Strike are staging a Hunger Strike outside parliament. The five day protest aims to draw attention to parents who cant afford to eat and are skipping meals, in order to be able to feed their children on their list of demands includes enforcing Free School Meals and universal credit to guarantee lifes essentials. Mps are due to essentials. Mps are due to debate this issue on tuesday , debate this issue on tuesday, and the princess of wales has thanked the public for their support as the first photo of the royal was published after her abdominal surgery. The image, posted on social media to mark mothers day, was taken by the prince of wales in windsor earlier on this week, sitting down, princess catherine is surrounded by her children prince george, Princess Charlotte and louis. She charlotte and prince louis. She was on was admitted to hospital on january 16th and left two weeks later following a planned operation. She is expected to operation. She is expected to return to her royal duties after easter. For the latest stories, easter. For the latest stories, sign up to gb news alerts by scanning the qr code on your screen or go to gb news. Com slash alerts right now. Back to. Mark. Thanks, ray. Welcome to a busy mark dolan tonight. Is rishi sunak right to squeeze benefits to fund tax cuts for workers . Ill be asking tonights newsmaker, the formidable Ann Widdecombe, plus tomorrows newspaper front pages and live reaction in the studio from tonights top pundits. With from tonights top pundits. With me this evening, former bbc chief Political Correspondent John Sergeant, journalist and Communications Adviser linda jubilee and former labour special adviser top keir starmer insider Paul Richards. Plus, theyll be nominating their headune theyll be nominating their headline heroes and back page zeroes. A packed hour. Those papers are coming. And papers are coming. And widdecombe waiting in the wings. But first, my take at ten. For such a vocal political figure, Angela Rayner has gone strangely quiet. Labours deputy leader faces questions about profits from the sale of her Council House nine years ago and despite her claims of innocence, shes unable to close the door on this growing mystery around her former property. The allegations former property. The allegations against rayner are that she may owe tax on a profit she made when selling her home in stockport in march 2015. She insists that the house was her Main Residence when she sold it, which would exempt her from paying which would exempt her from paying tax on the considerable £48,000 profit. Now rayner has denied any wrongdoing and has insisted that the home on vicarage road was her Main Residence. From two thousand and residence. From two thousand and seven she paid bills, council tax and was registered to vote at the address. But theres a at the address. But theres a twist in the tale. Neighbour of miss rayner have insisted that she was in fact living primarily about a mile away at a property on launders lane. Former next door neighbour Sylvia Hampson said that rayner lived in the terraced home in launders lane for a good 6 or 7 years, despite the labour mps insistence that her main home address was vicarage road. Now this wily vicarage road. Now this wily next door neighbour told the Times Newspaper the following. She said angela lived there as a family, with her partner mark and the three kids. Theres no doubt she was living there all the time. Im now the police the time. Im now the police have investigated this and found no evidence of any wrongdoing, and a labour spokesperson says that following professional advice, no Capital Gains tax was payable on the sale of rayners home. But the forthright neighbour, Sylvia Hampson , who neighbour, Sylvia Hampson, who is a very sprightly 83, is not having any of it. She went on to tell the times i saw her all the time coming and going her mum would come and visit a lot. This was her home. Neighbour sylvia goes on and prepare here for some Strong Language folks. She some Strong Language folks. She says if she is saying she didnt live there , she is an effing live there, she is an effing liar. She definitely lived in that house. She cant say she didnt live there. I would swear on the bible to that. Oh deary on the bible to that. Oh deary me. Well, i dont know if rayner is religious. Still, if Sylvia Hampson is not telling the truth, im sure that Angela Rayner will sue her, wont she . Definitely. Thats surely what shell. Rayner cant be happy shell do. Rayner cant be happy with this formidable ex neighbour in fact, she probably thinks poor old Sylvia Hampson is scum just like all conservatives, whilst the amounts involved are relatively small, any Capital Gains tax avoided would be in the region of £1,500. This is a question of the deputy Prime Ministers judgement and character. Now i happen to like and admire Angela Rayner. Happen to like and admire Angela Rayner. Shes outspoken, shes rayner. Shes outspoken, shes compelling. I think she would probably be a better leader than keir starmer, but shes both an asset and a liability to the labour cause. With her aforementioned vile language about her political opponents. About her political opponents. And there was that very explicit reference to her own anatomy, the so called ginger growler, when she reportedly joked with colleagues that she liked to cross her legs to distract Boris Johnson when he was at the despatch box, hardly becoming of a person that would like to be the deputy Prime Minister. Although i doubt boris had any complaints whether she was at living next door to Sylvia Hampson on vicarage road or not. The non payment of a small amount of tax is a sideshow. Thats not the big story. The big story is whether angela, Angela Rayner withheld the truth. Now the revered Political Columnist at the mail on sunday, dan hodges, has tweeted the following. Its now obvious why Angela Rayner has refused to answer questions on this. Labours statement that was just false. Ouch. And that is why we false. Ouch. And that is why we need answers. And theres more. Because this flame haired politician also faces accusations of hypocrisy , accusations of hypocrisy, because this is a senior labour figure who made a huge profit on the sale of a house that shed been able to buy thanks to margaret thatchers transformative right to buy policy. This amazing scheme that policy. This amazing scheme that liberated the British Working class , unlocked social mobility class, unlocked social mobility and supercharged the economy. And supercharged the economy. She was opposed at every turn by the labour party, but that didnt stop the likes of labour loyalist rayner from taking advantage of this tory policy. Years later and pocketing a tidy sum. Outrageous, therefore, that sum. Outrageous, therefore, that rayner wants to review right to buy and potentially make it less profitable for others, having personally benefited from the right to buy discounts, she stands accused of pulling up the ladder on other Council Tenants wanting to do the same hypocrisy, double standards and allegedly lying about where she once lived. The Angela Rayner Council House story just wont go away and the ginger growler herself has gone strangely quiet. Your reaction market gb news. Com would you like answers from labour and answers from Angela Rayner . Does this story matter . Lets hear from my top pundits. Former bbc chief Political Correspondent John Sergeant, journalist and Communications Adviser linda jubilee and former labour special adviser Paul Richards. Paul, your reaction to this story . Its a big problem for labour, isnt it . No, its nonsense on stilts. No, its nonsense on stilts. If you look at the timeline, it was when she was a private individual and the all the Authorities Say shes got no case to answer. And luckily case to answer. And luckily mark, we do not base british law on gossip of our neighbours. On the gossip of our neighbours. Otherwise a lot will be in otherwise a lot of us will be in quite a lot of trouble. Well, this is a neighbour who said she would swear on the bible that Angela Rayner lived at property in vicarage , at that property in vicarage, lowndes lowndes lane, for lowndes road, lowndes lane, for years. This 83 year years. Why would this 83 year old neighbour lie . Old neighbour lie . Ive absolutely no idea. But its immaterial to this. Hmrc and the police and everyone other all the authorities, including parliamentary authorities, said no case to answer the question might be why is she being attacked . Its because shes effective. Its because shes effective. Its because shes effective. Its because shes not typical of the political class. She reaches political class. She reaches people for labour that perhaps keir starmer cant and they need to take her down. If those that are opposing to opposed to her. So shes a target. But this is just nonsense , honestly. Just nonsense, honestly. Look at that quote though, John Sergeant, i saw her all the time coming and going. Her mum would come and visit a lot. This was home. And about was her home. And how about this . If is saying she this . If she is saying she didnt there, shes didnt live there, shes an effing liar. John. Sergeant, effing liar. John. Sergeant, this is Strong Language. Why would an 83 year old pensioner lie about Angela Rayner, who would like to be the deputy Prime Minister well, we dont know what the neighbour is doing apart from, frankly , not being the nicest frankly, not being the nicest and kindest neighbour youd want to live to. Next youre telling the truth as she sees it, John Sergeant. But just because you think youre telling the truth doesnt mean have to shout mean to say you have to shout about your ex neighbour. It doesnt that doesnt necessarily follow that you this. And the you have to do this. And the other is of course, other thing is that of course, hes the authorities, is hes up to the authorities, is up to the inland revenue. Its up to the inland revenue. Its up all the various official up to all the various official bodies to did behave bodies to say, did she behave correctly . Now on that basis, if you that she didnt you say that she didnt behave correctly and theyre not bringing her, bringing charges against her, you be open to you can yourself be open to libel. John. Sergeant. Commons. John. Parliamentary john. Sergeant. Parliamentary privilege. If you open up this sort these accusations sort of these accusations without a very firm legal basis, youve got to be careful. John sergeant perhaps hmrc should have a sit down and a cup of tea with Sylvia Hampson. Sure. No, theyre open to that. They can, they can open up these investigations. They can reopen them. So can the police. Them. So can the police. Everyone else can. All those avenues are possible. I think avenues are possible. I think the sort of in a way, the crux of the political question is much stronger, which is that if she was against right to buy, wasnt she being hypocritical if she took advantage of that scheme . Now that seems to me a perfectly reasonable political objection. If she says that the scheme should be reviewed , is scheme should be reviewed, is she saying that people like her shouldnt be allowed to gain in the way that she gained, because shes disputing she shes not disputing that she gained . Gained . Okay. Mean, linda jubilee, okay. I mean, linda jubilee, this story, well to this story, well come to hypocrisy in a moment, but this story not going away. Are you story is not going away. Are you in team sylvia or team angela . I couldnt possibly be in team in team sylvia. I mean, just because sylvia, the 83 year old neighbour, says this must be true because i think it doesnt make it. She lived next door to her for six years. Doesnt matter really doesnt matter. I mean, for example, where is Angela Rayner on the electoral roll . Thats very relevant and thats a matter of record. We can all go and check that. Sylvia hampson has said she will swear on a stack of bibles she was effing living next door or whatever. She has a version of events. She has an opinion. But can you prove it with the documents . With the evidence . Thats what i think. Now if you think about Angela Rayner, am i on team Angela Raymond . No, im not. I think that was a mark of hypocrisy. What she did, i think to benefit from a policy that you are now rowing back from so severely is awful for people. Thats what im more interested in. Right. The other stuff, even Greater Manchester police. So that they are not interested in Going Forward with an inquiry. Well, sylvia or no sylvia, thats because Greater Manchester police havent met sylvia and have you . Shes 83. Shes a sprightly 83. Listen, what about that, point made by linda jubilee . Their alleged hypocrisy regarding Angela Rayner . She pockets 48,500 pounds from selling her Council House, but wants reduce profits for wants to reduce profits for others. Others. Well, i think its a very strong this is a Strong Political argument to have. It is like labour mps who are against private schools sending their own kids to private schools. So when that happens, as it famously with diane as it did famously with diane abbott , of course should be. Abbott, of course it should be. It be pointed out. People it should be pointed out. People should say, look, what do you think of the result . Bear in mind, with all these cases that come up where people have very strong feelings, we are approaching a general election. Well, thats the key point, john. Its an election. Its an election coming. If people in Angela Rayners constituency dont like her for whatever reason, including these arguments that youve put, well, let them accordingly. Let them vote accordingly. Paul richards is Angela Rayner a hypocrite . Is she pulling up the ladder for others that would like to sell their council . Oh really . Because whats the alternative . Being alternative . Just not being allowed sell own house . Allowed to sell her own house . I mean, she didnt buy it from the council, that policy council, you know, that policy was ago. And is was 20 years ago. And this is like john says, an election yeah like john says, an Election Year. A lot of mud is going to be slung. Theyre try be slung. Theyre going to try and kinds of things on and get all kinds of things on all kinds of political leaders. And have to take this as and we just have to take this as part sort of pre election part of the sort of pre election nonsense, which is what it is. Paul, paul, do you rate Angela Rayner . Paul, paul, do you rate angl la rayner . Paul, paul, do you rate angl la rayshes fabulous and i i think shes fabulous and i think is such a non tipped think she is such a non tipped politician because shes come from different background from a very different background. Industrial language,. She has industrial language, she fabulous , and i think she looks fabulous, and i think she looks fabulous, and i think she reaches parts of the public that the sort of mainstream politicians struggle with. That the sort of mainstream polvery 1s struggle with. That the sort of mainstream polvery briefly, gle with. That the sort of mainstream polvery briefly, linda, h. That the sort of mainstream polvery briefly, linda, is she very briefly, linda, is she labours Boris Johnson . Yeah, i can what youre yeah, i can see what youre going with there, mark, shes shes a shes a character. Shes an individual. She resonates with the public. Shes a great campaigner. When shes out on the road, she resonates and engages far more than keir starmer does. Actually more than Rachel Reeves, whos not so bad , Rachel Reeves, whos not so bad, but at the end of the day, there is a large element of hypocrisy here. And it doesnt matter whether its an Election Year or not, because hypocrisy is hypocrisy. Well, folks, its up to you. Are you in team sylvia . The 83 year old neighbour Sylvia Hampson, or team Angela Rayner . Let me know. And by the way, no more mum pictures because weve had hundreds and your mums are so gorgeous. Tomorrow im going to reply to everybody on email, but weve got a surplus of lovely mum pictures which are coming for mothers day , but coming for mothers day, but thank for sending them in thank you for sending them in but let your thoughts. But let me know your thoughts. Are team angela or team are you team angela or team sylvia . More come, but sylvia . Lots more to come, but next is rishi sunak right to next up is rishi sunak right to squeeze benefits to pay for tax cuts working brits . Well cuts for working brits . Well debate the formidable debate that with the formidable ann next. Angela rayner faces questions about the sale of her Council House nine years ago. Her house nine years ago. Her neighbour has a rather explosively said that shes a liar and that she lived at a different address. How about this from, graham, who says im in team sylvia . Enough of labours hypocrisy. It started with blair and its continues , with blair and its continues, martin says, who really gives a stuff on the issue of reinas house sale . And alan says , hi, house sale . And alan says, hi, mark. Im definitely in team sylvia. Shes a remarkable lady. Sylvia. Shes a remarkable lady. The next door neighbour, 83, whos called Angela Rayner, potentially a liar, of course. Angela rayner strenuously denies any such allegations. Now let me any such allegations. Now let me tell you, im very excited about this because weve got more mothers day pictures, so lets fire those in now this is mark and his lovely mum pamela on a flight somewhere. Gorgeous. Just as gorgeous as pamela. Love that picture. And weve got ray and caroline. Thats well, thats ray addison and his lovely mum. And isnt his mum very rock and roll. And weve got viv and her roll. And weve got viv and her mum. Two very fine ladies. Happy mothers day. Its a lovely mum. Mothers day. Its a lovely mum. Brilliant stuff. Okay, now brilliant stuff. Okay, now listen, weve got a developing story ive got to tell you that the team are just getting the picture ready because that photograph of the princess of wales, princess catherine, with her three children. Well, were heanng her three children. Well, were hearing here at gb news that that photograph has been doctored. Thats right. Were doctored. Thats right. Were heanng doctored. Thats right. Were hearing that its been gone through photoshop. Essentially, its been fiddled with. It is not the original photograph. Now, we were told it was taken by Prince William, prince of wales. Of course, we were told it was a happy family shot for mothers but there is some mothers day. But there is some question mark now about the veracity of that image. But we veracity of that image. But we are hearing at gb news that that photograph has been through Something Like photoshop. The image has been doctored. What does that mean . What will that does that mean . What will that do to the rumour mill about whats happening in the royal family, about catherines health, about the state of her marriage to the prince of wales . Marriage to the prince of wales . It will only get tongues wagging and ill get full reaction from my the official my top pundits. The official kate mothers day photograph has been doctored is what were hearing. Reaction at 1030. Okay, folks , lots more to get through. Folks, lots more to get through. And of course, ive got to tell you, weve maxed out with all our pictures of our lovely mums now. So lets get on to more big stories of the day and rishi sunakis stories of the day and rishi sunak is preparing a new benefits squeeze to fund his ambition to abolish National Insurance contributions for workers by the end of the next parliament. In an interview with the sunday times, the Prime Minister said he was planning to kerb the growing welfare bill to fund further tax cuts. Senior treasury sources claim there will be another fiscal event, possibly a mini budget, as soon as september before polling day. So is rishi sunak right to squeeze the welfare budget to fund tax cuts for working brits . Lets get the views of tonights newsmaker. Former government minister and Television Personality Ann Widdecombe. Ann is the political establishment, finally waking up to the fact that britain lives beyond its means . Means . Well, rather belatedly, i think theyre waking up to the fact that we need tax cuts, that tax cuts do fund growth. As ive said on this, on this programme, many times, and i think, rather belatedly, the government is waking up to that now. We do need to reduce taxes and we also need to reduce taxes and we also need to reduce the welfare bill, which has been growing and growing and growing, and a lot of which goes on, people being out of work. So, you know, we do out of work. So, you know, we do need to tackle those things , but need to tackle those things, but whether you do the one in order to do the other , seems to me to to do the other, seems to me to be a bit far fetched, you know, that you sort of predicated tax cut on the welfare cuts, and i dont even see that that logical or possible and politics, as you know , is all about tough choices. How do you strike a balance between a sensible, sustainable welfare bill whilst protecting the most vulnerable in society . Well, youve only got a certain size of cake. And the point ive been making for a long time is that if the only people who claim benefit were those who really needed benefit, theyd be able to have a bigger share the cake , but as it share of the cake, but as it happens, weve got an awful lot of people who are perfectly capable of working, who dont work, and, and, that is what successive governments , even successive governments, even thatcher, never got on top of the welfare dependency culture, never got on top of it. And no Prime Minister since has either , Prime Minister since has either, and i would actually like to see, a real effort on this. I mean, even blair talked about doing it. Didnt do it. Now, ann, three former conservative home secretaries are calling for a political consensus to tackle extremism. Consensus to tackle extremism. Dame priti patel, sir sajid javid and amber rudd have signed a statement urging labour and the tories to Work Together to deal with what theyre calling the real threats from islamic extremists, far right extremists and others. Do you think that and others. Do you think that the government and this move by previous home secretaries will be successful . Can we ever get on top of extremism in this country now . Country now . Well, we certainly could if we had the will and if we put the resources into it. Yes, i think it is possible to do, let me say right away what anybody with an iota of intelligence, must recognise, which is youll never be 100 success. There will always be extremist incidents. There will always be terrorist incidents, which you didnt quite manage to prevent, but you could be a lot more successful, than we are at the moment, and so i think its quite right that we look at it now. It appears to me i dont often stand up for this government, but it appears to me that the government really cant win. You know, everybody says youve do more to tackle youve got to do more to tackle extremism they do. And extremism then when they do. And when gets into this, when gove gets into this, everybody says, oh, hang on, you know, thats all wrong. Know, that thats all wrong. Youre worsen the situation know, that thats all wrong. Youyouve worsen the situation know, that thats all wrong. Youyouve wortor the situation know, that thats all wrong. Youyouve wortor thablejation know, that thats all wrong. Youyouve wortor thable to ion and youve got to be able to win. Youve got to be able to do something. Something. Wish we had longer. And i wish we had longer. Its a packed but well its a packed hour, but well catch up with you in a weeks time. My thanks to the brilliant Ann Widdecombe, former government course, government minister of course, best and best selling author and Television Personality. Lots more dont Television Personality. Lots more about dont Television Personality. Lots more about that. Dont Television Personality. Lots more about that. But dont Television Personality. Lots more about that. But nextdont Television Personality. Lots more about that. But next up,t worry about that. But next up, tomorrows newspaper pages tomorrows newspaper front pages and from my top and live reaction from my top punst. And live reaction from my top pundits. Plus, theyll nominate pundits. Plus, theyll nominate their heroes and pack their headline heroes and pack page zero. So weve got more pictures of your lovely mums happy mothers day to all of the mums watching. And some of you are not lucky enough to still have your mums with you. But the pictures have been coming in thick and fast. So this is woody and his mum carol in doncaster. What a fine figure of a man you are. And lovely, proud are. Woody and lovely, proud mum, carol, is mum, gorgeous. Carol, this is derek and lovely mum. Happy derek and his lovely mum. Happy birthday. There you go. Shes celebrating her birthday in that picture, very fine lady. Lovely happy family their time happy family enjoying their time with mum and jonathan and his younger in it. Younger generation. There Young Jonathan and his gorgeous mum who does not look like his mum. She looks like his older sister. There you 90, by like his older sister. There you go, by the way, speaking of pictures, this is the first portrait the princess of portrait of the princess of wales since her operation. And its for mothers day with her three children. But theres a story developing, several agencies have rejected this photograph. Now, multiple photo agencies, including reuters and ap, have pulled this image of the princess of wales over concerns that its been manipulated or doctored. This is potentially a massive story for the royal family, a potential scandal. Well get to it straight after tomorrows front pages. And ill get to that story in just a moment. But how about this from the i faulty it at home office hits efforts to tackle illegal immigration. The flawed atlas system that cost the government £71 million is causing errors and delays. Does causing errors and delays. Does that sound familiar . Horizon . Anyone meanwhile, the guardian tory ex home secretaries warn against politicising extremism and ramadan in gaza. We are sitting here waiting for our fate. Independent anfield thriller liverpool and city share the spoils as klopp has a final showdown with guardiola, scanned all of the elderly, treated like animals on hospital wards and there is that image of princess catherine and her children, an image which could prove to be very contrary to find out why in just a moment, metro im smiles better. Kates joyous mothers day photo. But who took the photo . Was kate in it . Was it doctored . Was photoshop involved . Daily star photoshop involved . Daily star we are tops for linguistics sacrebleu words boffin english is just badly spoken french. There is no such thing as engush there is no such thing as english language and what we are speaking is badly pronounced. French says , says a top french french says, says a top french boffin. Well, what is french for . Do one. Okay, lets get full reaction now to tomorrows papers. In the company of my top pundits, im delighted to have with me the former bbc chief Political Correspondent, John Sergeant , journalist and sergeant, journalist and Communications Adviser linda duberly and former labour special adviser Paul Richards. Special adviser Paul Richards. Listen, lets get straight to this photo graph. Were going to talk about this in glowing terms. John. Sergeant because this is the first public official image we have of princess catherine since she had her operation in the nation. And the world has been on the edge of its seat about her well being as she recovered. We havent as she recovered. We havent seen her. But now controversy around this image suggestions its been doctored with several photo agencies, including reuters and ap, pulling this image of the princess of wales over concerns its been manipulated. Manipulated. And no, it is an absolutely astonishing story and to think that this is a pretty straightforward , very welcome, straightforward, very welcome, normal pr operation to say, look, this is, you know, this is mothers day and this is shes a famous mother and how wonderful. And all the rest of it public totally behind this , and to then totally behind this, and to then totally behind this, and to then to be told, heres a lovely picture. Yes. Agreed to that and the photographs taken by her husband. How marvellous. And husband. How marvellous. And suddenly were told just this evening that these agencies, serious agencies. Reuters and afp are saying that theyre going to theyre concerned that its been manipulated. Well, now, you know, im not an expert. I look at it and to me it just seems okay. But then these manipulations that have occurred, you know, theyre getting more and more sophisticated. Dont but sophisticated. I dont know, but if its true, of course, the cover up, the fact that its been altered then becomes the story doesnt matter what the picture looks like. And oh, but she does look nice and they look nice. Whats wrong with having it . Well, its completely wrong. You cant put this forward as a family photo if its been manipulated and it doesnt help. Linda, do you believe that this photograph was released to end speculation and stop end speculation and to stop conspiracy theories about the waless marriage and about her health . Well, because when she was shown only a few days ago, say, ten days ago on the school run, she did look dreadful and she looked very pale and she was hiding behind. I mean, can i just say i look i mean, can ijust say i look dreadful on the school run . Yeah, yeah. But you know, but lots of people talked about it and think that they made a decision. Its mothers day coming up. I think were going to quell those rumours about her being down and not recovering very quickly. I think were going to put out this photograph for mothers but to my eye, mothers day. But to my eye, i can see that that has been manipulated photoshop manipulated and photoshop photoshopped actually, especially her especially down the side of her face side of her hand. Face and the side of her hand. Now, most papers that publish , now, most papers that publish, photographs will clean up the images , but they rarely touch images, but they rarely touch a royal photograph , never mind one royal photograph, never mind one taken by a member of the royal family and the actual heir to the throne. And i think, you know the other thing i think thats really strange is that shes i know this sounds a small point, but im a woman, so im allowed to say this. Shes wearing a black top now, a black top is disastrous in a photograph. And on air. And the reason for it is it wont show definition. But i think theres definition. But i think theres a reason why shes wearing it. She doesnt want to show definition. Iron face has been photoshopped, and i think all of thatis photoshopped, and i think all of that is understandable. But actually when youre releasing a photograph to reassure people about previous photograph that about a previous photograph that was taken ten days ago, its all a bit dodgy. You have to wonder whether were being taken for mugs. Paul richards i think she needs to sack her pr advisers because, i mean, if this is a you know, doctored photo, its pretty obvious that it is. And the fact that these major agencies are pulling it and this now becomes a story that will last days and days and days until they release another photograph to prove that this was real. Thats it. Theyll have to have a real photograph. Yeah. Yeah. Whats so surprising that whats so surprising is that that makes it worse and w0 ise. Woise. Worse. Everything about it is now a complete disaster. Theyre theyre on the yeah, theyre theyre on the back now, arent they . Back foot now, arent they . Absolutely. Back foot now, arent they . Absolut theres back foot now, arent they . Absoluttheres no theres no no. Theres no theres no easy theres clever easy escape. Theres no clever way this. Way around this. There absolutely no no there absolutely no graceful they simply unless they can simply say this true. This was not this is not true. This was not manipulated. This is a genuine photograph. And they should be saying and tonight. Saying that now and tonight. Thats true, whats so if thats true, whats so surprising same surprising is the same communications surprising is the same conkingsations surprising is the same con kings diagnosis of cancer the kings diagnosis of cancer supremely. And the letter, supremely well. And the letter, the open letter that the public was absolutely , perfectly was absolutely, perfectly worded. But this has just gone from bad to worse , and i didnt from bad to worse, and i didnt really think it needed to. Thats the irony. Thats the irony. Well, thats what so stupid could have been so straightforward. Clever people behind these clever people behind the what about this . The scenes. Oh, what about this . And about that . You and how about that . And you think, no, how about falling back the truth . How about back on the truth . How about actually being truthful . An easy, easy pr thats an easy, easy pr operation. Is that an argument for less presentation when it comes to the royal family . Let them be more real, less clear. Well, weve already said sack the press. The danger has always been, you know, shining daylight in on magic, isnt it . And somehow this will undermine the institution, but actually a modern monarchy, if its going to co exist alongside a democracy, be democracy, has to be transparent. Are real transparent. Yes, they are real people. In, go to people. They get in, they go to hospital , things happen. And we hospital, things happen. And we need about that, you need to know about that, you know, its trying cover need to know about that, you knowin its trying cover need to know about that, you knowin the ts trying cover need to know about that, you knowin the wayying cover need to know about that, you knowin the way that cover need to know about that, you knowin the way that you over need to know about that, you knowin the way that you could it up in the way that you could have 50 years ago. Could have done 50 years ago. I could not do that. I cant see this as having happened on the watch of Queen Elizabeth the second. I dont think this would have. For think that this would have. For example, she wouldnt have allowed someone to put out a photograph of her that was not 100. Well, probably not. Mean, thats probably right i mean, thats probably right. Yeah, but mean, what . Yeah, but i mean, what . Hang on, there is a but hang on, there is a difference between the royal family and the royal household. Some queen, know, some things the queen, you know, the would not the late queen, would not necessarily have seen every photograph or even seen every photograph or even seen every photograph of her. I think its a very big difference. The Communications Department sits in the royal household, i know, but not the royal family. But i think the other point to bear in mind that this is such an mind is that this is such an unusual where the king unusual situation where the king is where got the is ill, where youve got the structures clearly altered, all the people normally around the sovereign and not with Prince William you know, theyre william or, you know, theyre not with the prince of wales. Mean, that is one of i mean, thats that is one of the communication problems. So if people who would if there are people who would normally be, what number 3 or 4 in the hierarchy, suddenly actually theyre number one for acting. Its quite, you know , acting. Its quite, you know, roles and duties are tricky and there arent that many experts around the royal family that you can just. And if youre not careful, as in fact, meghan and harry found with all their sort of appointments of people then sacking them to get a sort of group of loyal people who know what theyre doing, who are highly experienced. Thats tricky. You same in politics, isnt it . Same in number 10. If you havent got the right people around you . Yeah. Yeah. Then what happens if they say, oh, weve got a new person in and theyre really good and what oh well, what have they done. Oh well, theyve doctored this theyve just doctored this picture. Yeah. Who is picture. Oh no. Yeah. Who is going to whos going to say, dont stupid. Dont be so stupid. Whos experienced dont be so stupid. Whos expsoznced dont be so stupid. Whos expso thisj dont be so stupid. Whos expso this is really you see the so this is really you see the royal family calls itself the firm. In e e e in fact its not firm. In fact its not really but in fact its not really Like Communications in the corporate world, which is often handled very, very strictly. Its very well organised about the principal and the advisers around them and the way its structured. It doesnt work that way in the royal family and thats why you get these slip ups. Is it more like the vatican . Is it Smoke Signals . Someone years ago its someone said years ago its more wolf the novel. More like wolf hall, the novel. So blatant. If it but this is so blatant. If it is doctored, if and these agencies are not messing about, if theyve withdrawn it because they because they believe it. Obe i mean, when we do the pr 101, when we do, when we do the dolan christmas card, i sometimes brighten it up, maybe, maybe superimpose a smile on mrs. Dolans face. As far as i know, though, youre not due to be anywhere near throne, you . Near the throne, are you . Never say never. I but you never say never. I mean, i will take role of mean, i will take the role of recovering from a serious operation. And i mean, i brighten up when we do our christmas card. I brighten the picture and i brighten up the picture and bnng i brighten up the picture and bring the colours because, bring out the colours because, you this you know, youve got this software allows to software now which allows you to just, know, reuters image. Its the fact that reuters and ap have withdrawn this and, and ap have withdrawn this and, and out a note saying why and sent out a note saying why theyre pulling this image. Theyre pulling this image. Yeah. Thats so important. Chilling phrase but this chilling phrase Kensington Palace has declined to comment. Oh dear. Is that damning . Not well, because they damning . Not well, because they havent worked their answer havent worked out their answer yet to say think this famous yet to say we think this famous photograph thats now been seen by millions and millions of people around the world, yeah, is being manipulated, but but Kensington Palace has declined to comment. Yeah, well hurry up. Yeah, well hurry up. Yeah, well hurry up. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Well you i mean, you have your story there with that answer, dont you, with that answer, dont you, with no comment. Surely if it was an innocent mistake or unintentional, theyd come straight out and say straight and say, my son, straight out and say, my son, were very sorry about that. Now conspiracists are now the conspiracists are going free reign, arent going to have free reign, arent they . Every out there they . Now, every nut out there is an obvious an obvious response. Linda wood, for them to say that photograph was taken by that the photograph was taken by the wales and the prince of wales and the pubuchy the prince of wales and the publicity used Publicity Team used some software to enhance the image, and it was done in error. But weve not had that. Yeah, i mean weve not had that. Yeah, i mean this can we get to this issue of william having taken the photograph, because that was an important part the story . Important part of the story . Yes, part of the genuine thought story. And made moving. Right. And made it so moving. Right. And made it so moving. Thats and thats what and thats and thats what made so resonant on mothers day. Private picture. Private picture. A picture taken on yeah, its a picture taken on mothers day the by the mothers day by the by the husband of kate. I mean, thats an incredibly important whats the worst Case Scenario . What what might have been going on here, linda. Well, i think she doesnt look as well as , as the photo look as well as, as the photo suggests. Right. I think that can be the only reason. Why else would you fiddle with the photograph, right . Yeah. Yeah. Thats photograph is to thats the photograph is to reassure about that. Reassure you about that. Shes okay. Youre back sort of okay. Youre back to sort of soviet times, arent you . Yes. Youre to people being youre back to people being wiped youre wiped out of photographs. Youre back, know, youre very back, you know, youre very dangerous, very dangerous. Crazy back, you know, youre very dangeofrs, very dangerous. Crazy back, you know, youre very dangeof manipulation rous. Crazy back, you know, youre very dangeof manipulation where razy back, you know, youre very dangeof manipulation where its world of manipulation where its all mirrors, where you cant trust anything they do. Yes. Trust anything they do. Yes. Blimey. I mean, this will take a long, long time. If this is long, long time. If this is true, and its as we its being suggested. Right. So were basing the basing everything on the assumption these agencies assumption that these agencies know what theyre talking about and theyre correct. And its serious. You otherwise they serious. You otherwise they wouldnt killed wouldnt have killed it. They wouldnt have manipulated say manipulated Paul Richards to say that pr image has backfired that this pr image has backfired is an understatement. Its a disaster. Now , its a disaster. Even now, its a disaster in the first few minutes of this breaking. Well, were just coming to terms well into tomorrow. Yeah. All those editors whove put this picture on their front pages, weve just been yeah, theyre been looking. Yeah, theyre thats reputation. Thats their reputation. So now the so day two is the date. So the day two is sorry we were had. Yes. And on on it rolls into the week. I mean i can think of a certain couple in cupertino, california wholl at this story. Yeah, im afraid so. Yeah, im afraid so. The smiles be fairly the smiles will be fairly obvious. Yeah. At harry and meghan do at least harry and meghan do know to do oh no, meghan know how to do pr. Oh no, meghan knows how manipulate all of knows how to manipulate all of her and has done for her photographs and has done for many years. Regard that normal you regard that as normal behaviour. You regard that as normal beidoing. Well, doing doing it well, doing it. She doesit doing it well, doing it. She does it well. Doing it well, doing it. She doeshesell. Doing it well, doing it. She doeshes al. Doing it well, doing it. She doeshes a professional, listen, shes a professional, listen, more this extraordinary more on this extraordinary story. The fallout from the news that this new photograph of princess kate, charlotte, louis and george has been doctored. A memo from the Associated Press posted on x ordered staff not to continue running the story or the image following accusations of manipulation. Well, it is not just the Associated Press because now its reuters as well. Pulling an image of the princess of wales from circulation over concerns of its veracity. Where do the palace go from here . More reaction to that. Plus, my pundits will be nominating their headline heroes and back page zeroes of the day and back page zeroes of the day and more front pages and more pictures of your gorgeous mums on mothers day. That at the time. Yeah. That at the time. Yeah. Thats good. Thats good. Welcome back. And im delighted to say that for mothers day, youve been sending pictures your very sending in pictures of your very special, wonderful mums. Special, very wonderful mums. This anna. And isnt she this is anna. And isnt she a glamorous mum . Look at that. With a well deserved glass of wine. Thats. That was, that was. Oh, by the way, sorry. Was. And oh, by the way, sorry. I should correct that. That was anna karens late mother, anna and karens late mother, margaret. Margaret margaret. So that was margaret you there. So god bless you just saw there. So god bless you, margaret, memory. You, margaret, in loving memory. Thank sending that in. Thank you for, sending that in. Anna karen , this is jay and anna and karen, this is jay and his late grandma as well. We his late grandma as well. We miss those grannies so much. And look, hes got the, loudhailer. Look, hes got the, loudhailer. So he can be properly heard. Much missed grandmother and frida, who is lynns mum . Hello, frida, who is lynns mum . Hello, frida. Lovely lady. Oh, its so frida. Lovely lady. Oh, its so nice to see your mums. The mums weve still got and the mums weve still got and the mums weve lost. Okay a few more front pages. Lets have a look at the telegraph now. And photo from palace was doctored. Say agencies. Princess of wales mothering sunday image of family recalled over editing concerns. Recalled over editing concerns. Also, police take bodies from funeral home after two people arrested and extremists must be named, says the levelling up secretary, michael gove. Times secretary, michael gove. Times now blasphemy demos are growing in radicalism britain faces an alarming rise in intimidation and threats of violence against those perceived to insult to have insulted islam, protests condemning acts of alleged blasphemy have become more frequent and radicalised , frequent and radicalised, according to independent research commissioned by the governments counter extremism tsar starmer, to govern with a gang of four, sir keir starmer will radically overhaul the way britain is governed by upending the traditional system of cabinet. If labour cabinet government. If labour wins the election under plans being developed his team , being developed by his team, Mission Boards focus on the Mission Boards will focus on the partys pledges to improve Economic Growth and reform pubuc Economic Growth and reform public services. Well, who could argue with that . Okay, well, argue with that . Okay, well, look back to this extraordinary developing story. And when you get a chance, josh, if you could flash up that, offending image. Now, this is a photograph of the princess of wales with her three children. But multiple photo agencies, including reuters and ap, have now pulled this image from circulation over concerns its been manipulated. The its been manipulated. The picture in question was released on sunday morning to celebrate mothers day. It shows kate surrounded by her and Prince Williams three children george, charlotte and louis, the initial image was circulated to, i suppose , deal with speculation suppose, deal with speculation about her health and about the status of the royal family. Well, lets get more reaction from John Sergeant, linda jubilee and Paul Richards and another concern i would have, Paul Richards is, the doctoring of this image. What does it tell us about the culture of Buckingham Palace and the palace authorities . Authorities . Well, i think its a broader issue, actually, in politics and in public life of this idea of deep fakes and the fact that the manipulation of imagery, including video and audio , which including video and audio, which just creates an alternative reality that people believe. I remember getting in the back of a cab in liverpool, somebody saying, why is your leader attacking liverpool . And theyd seen deep fake of keir starmer seen a deep fake of keir starmer saying things which course he saying things which of course he hadnt and saying things which of course he hadnt and this man hadnt said, and this man believed it and probably did. Dozens others do. And its dozens of others do. And its just start. You know, its just a start. You know, its going get ever more going to get ever more sophisticated. Yeah. To the point were not going point where were just not going to whats real and what to know whats real and what isnt. To know whats real and what isnand especially in and especially in a pre election of time, pre election period of time, i think could all get a great think this could all get a great deal worse. But these are said to be these are, in fact, the four of the worlds biggest picture agencies have withdrawn these i think these shots. Yeah. And i think they have to do it because theres nothing you can. Warren buffett once said it takes 25 years to build a reputation, only minutes to lose it. Only five minutes to lose it. And frankly, break the and frankly, if you break the golden rule, you put out an golden rule, like you put out an image has been manipulated image that has been manipulated and your reputation is blown and thats a very, very serious thing in for those those picture agencies, they acted quickly because they had to their reputations were at stake. Yes, indeed. And of course, theres so much mystery surrounding the health and well being of princess catherine. Id rather not talk about it, because, you know, she had a major operation and we just want her to recover. And i wasnt one of those people saying, you know, where is kate . We deserve to know. However. Yeah, but this is different. Yeah, but this is different. Because this is different because now it wonder about it makes you wonder about her Health Concerns and health with valid concerns and also, there was the advert for tickets for the trooping the tickets for the trooping of the colour, advertised colour, which was advertised onune colour, which was advertised online weeks ago, online a couple of weeks ago, and it was princess catherine was going to be present. And then that advert was pulled. So then that advert was pulled. So the thickens. Linda jubilee i yeah, i mean, i think youve got you kind of have to divide this into two aspects. I agree with you that im not particularly interested in finding out the fine details of her particularly if its her health, particularly if its about something thats quite personal. I dont want to know. But really important to but this is really important to manipulate pictures like this. Id like to know exactly what had happened. Id like to know how it happened and why it happened. How it happened and why it happened. And those things are happened. And those things are a matter of public interest. Yes , yes. Yes, yes. yes, yes. So theres this question of, you know, the king in a way, started this by saying about his own illness, i believe in transparency. He should know about Prostate Cancer and so on. They should know about other things. No, i didnt have it. Cancer because of that. Then cancer because of that. He then got people then got caught because people then said, to know more said, we want to know more detail now. So were on a detail now. So they were on a sliding slope from the very beginning, which we talked about on these programmes that, you know, once you say, im going to be transparent, okay, youve got to be transparent. Youve then got to be transparent for all members family. Members of the family. But whenever serious of whenever its serious and of course, arguments were course, the old arguments were dont because youll then be led into further questions nevertheless. So the downing street used to have this phrase, were not giving a running were not giving you a running commentary. All that was commentary. So all that was because the, the politicians, in their own way, had been through this cycle of how much did this whole cycle of how much did you talk should we name you talk about should we name the downing street sources . What do we do about it . This went on for years and years, and years. No, we must be more transparent. And you are and then when you are transparent, dont be surprised if get caught. Not in such if you get caught. Not in such a dramatic this, but caught dramatic way as this, but caught in ways. But we want to in small ways. But we want to know more. What i find extraordinary is that communications that the Communications Department at Buckingham Palace made a strategic decision to deliver information about the prince of wales in a certain way, and he himself said he wanted openness about it to encourage other men to come forward. Okay, so they acted that way and they handled it perfectly well. This is a mess. Youve handled this developing story perfectly to the clock is against this. I wish we had longer. Theres the front page of the mirror and oh dear, theyve been theyve been caught hook, line and sinker. First sinker. Thank you. First official of fleet official pick after of fleet street be furious. Thank street will be furious. Thank you brilliant john you to the brilliant John Sergeant jubilee and Paul Sergeant linda jubilee and Paul Richards. Company. Richards. You for your company. I on friday at eight. I am back on friday at eight. Headliners is next. That warm feeling inside and from boxt boilers. Sponsors of weather on gb news. Hello there. Welcome to your latest gb news Weather Forecast from the met office. Were looking ahead to the new working week. Its going to remain a fairly changeable across the country, but increasingly mild. So we end the weekend , weve so as we end the weekend, weve still got this area of low pressure in charge. It will gradually move the gradually move towards the continent through into continent as we go through into monday. But before we get there, monday. But before we get there, weve still got this area of rain stretched right across the country. It will weaken as we go through the course of the night, and really, its going to leave behind lot mist, murk behind quite a lot of mist, murk and weather. But under behind quite a lot of mist, murk andcloud, weather. But under behind quite a lot of mist, murk andcloud, its ather. But under behind quite a lot of mist, murk andcloud, its noter. But under behind quite a lot of mist, murk andcloud, its not going under behind quite a lot of mist, murk andcloud, its not going to der behind quite a lot of mist, murk andcloud, its not going to be the cloud, its not going to be a night by any means. Most a cold night by any means. Most of us stay in frost free, coldest of the temperatures up across north of across the very far north of scotland, so its a bit scotland, so for many its a bit of a grey, murky start out there. On monday morning, some bits pieces of light rain bits and pieces of light rain and drizzle around, then and drizzle around, and then dunng and drizzle around, and then during course of the day we during the course of the day we will a bit more will see a little bit more persistent coming persistent rain just coming in across very west of across the very far west of scotland. And parts of northern ireland. Brightest of the weather down towards weather will be down towards the south west, any south west, so here in any brightness we will see highs reaching 12 reaching around 11 or 12 degrees. Temperatures degrees. Elsewhere, temperatures a bit up on sunday, so a little bit up on sunday, so feeling a little bit less cold into tuesday. Another band of rain works its way in from the southwest. The driest and the brightest weather reserved for the far north of scotland throughout the day. Elsewhere increasingly cloudy and wet as the goes on, but it will the day goes on, but it will drag in some milder air. So for everyone in the south by the middle of the week well see temperatures reaching the mid teens. In mid teens. But staying wet in the north looks like things are heating up. I good evening. Im ray anderson in the gb newsroom. Headliners is up next. But first, more on that developing story. A photo released of the story. A photo released of the princess of wales has come under major scrutiny following claims that it may have been manipulated. The image posted on social media to mark mothers day, was said to have been taken by the prince of wales in windsor earlier this week. It shows princess catherine surrounded by her children prince george, Princess Charlotte and prince louis. Four major News Agencies have now decided to withdraw it from their platforms, with ap saying on closer inspection, it appears that the source has manipulated the image. The princess of wales was admitted to hospital on