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Dunng media abuse that she received during her pregnancies , and the during her pregnancies, and the princess of waless uncle claims that harry and meghan should be stripped of their titles. And us President Joe Biden and donald trump are set to hold duelling rallies in georgia over the weekend. Well be looking ahead to that clash , and the ahead to that clash, and the government is set to announce that criminals could be released from prison a month early to tackle the overcrowding, overcrowding crisis in jails. But of course, more people are worried that that could cause more disorder in our society. And media mogul Rupert Murdoch gets engaged again at the age of 92. But how old is too old to get married these days. 7 days . Good morning. It was a demolition in the desert. Demolition in the desert. Anthony joshua showed ominous signs that hes returning to his best by knocking out Francis Ngannouin best by knocking out Francis Ngannou in riyadh. Its a big day of six nations and premier League Action. And in the cricket england are facing down a bowling onslaught from india. A bowling onslaught from india. If youve got outdoor plans this weekend, its not the best weather. There will be rain and showers around, but not everywhere will all the everywhere. Will be wet all the time. Find the full details in the forecast coming soon. The forecast coming up soon. Very good morning to well a very good morning to you. You. Im Martin Daubney and im anne and is anne diamond and this is breakfast news. Now, as breakfast on gb news. Now, as you may know, im not a particular fan of Rupert Murdoch, but i defend his right to get married when the heck he likes. Hes been married quite likes. Hes been married quite a few times. Six times or something. This will be his sixth. And. And theres that old chestnut. What attracted you to the multi millionaire Rupert Murdoch . Yes, i know, but he must know that hes a clever man. He must know that part of his sex appeal is money. But think is his money. But do you think he has appeal at all, if he has sex appeal at all, if youre asking me, im never going to say yes, am i . But but, you know, clearly he does. I you know, clearly he does. I mean, power does. Power is an aphrodisiac. Certainly. And a lot of women are are very much attracted to power , and hes got attracted to power, and hes got that and hes got money and he probably, you know, he obviously loves even at the age of 92. Plus he loves to have an attractive woman on his arm. So its a chilling thought. The thing a chilling thought. The thing a chilling thought. The thing a chilling thought. The thing that i always think about this is what are the kids think . Because obviously hes got a few bob. Yes. And are they gold is it genuine love . Its Amanda Platell in the columnist the daily mail has columnist in the daily mail has written of on the written quite sort of on the nose article about it today. And she said , you know, ill bet you she said, you know, ill bet you his kids who some of whom are as old as the woman that hes marrying or very nearly as old, i think his eldest child is two years younger than the woman hes marrying now. And thats a bit odd, isnt it . Yeah, but before previous wives have been younger his children. Younger than his children. I mean, happens a lot, mean, that happens a lot, particularly with powerful rich men, think, they will be men, i think, but they will be making sure that dad gets a really good prenup. But i dont know whether they would have to advise hes advise him, because hes a clever as i said, hell clever man. As i said, hell know that money be part of know that money will be part of the deal. Theyve got their own and theyve got their own cash. You know, the murdochs arent few bob arent without a few bob themselves. Very themselves. Theyve got very successful as in successful careers. But as in the show, there is the succession show, there is that kind of avaricious streak of, theyre just trying to of, oh, theyre just trying to take dads money. Yes, course, but why yes, of course, but why shouldnt isnt it better shouldnt he . Isnt it better than lonely. Why shouldnt than being lonely. Why shouldnt he wants to at he get married if he wants to at any and i just wonder if any age . And i just wonder if youve got story of anyone in youve got a story of anyone in your family that might have your family that you might have thought shouldnt be. You thought they shouldnt be. You know, shouldnt be getting know, they shouldnt be getting into sort thing. Theyre into that sort of thing. Theyre old they, you know, how dare old and they, you know, how dare an person love life an old person have a love life or that. I wonder or anything like that. I wonder if ever come up in your if its ever come up in your family, whether you have family, or whether you have maybe love in older age. Maybe found love in older age. And isnt a gazillion times and isnt it a gazillion times better than being on your own . Yeah, youve got to be careful. His age, though. You might not make it through the wedding might not make it through the we hes done all so far. Hes done all right so far. Yes, hes done all right. So far. Apparently he he dumped. This the press say. And this is what the press say. And of he knows bit too of course, he knows a bit too about the press , that he dumped about the press, that he dumped jerry hall by yeah well, jerry hall by email. Yeah well, thats like phil collins was fax. Yes. Yes. Thats right. Yeah. Thats right. Yeah. Thats right. Yeah. Brutal. And to the point, i guess when youre that powerful, its just another transaction. Also, youve probably had an awful lot of arguments face to face, and the face, havent you . And in the end, youve had enough and end, youve just had enough and you a pretty brutal fax you send off a pretty brutal fax or email. But it hasnt or email. Yeah, but it hasnt stopped him. He was engaged to stopped him. He was engaged to somebody a few months somebody else just a few months ago, that didnt last. The ago, but that didnt last. The engagement didnt last engagement itself didnt last long, this he is going long, but this lady, he is going to quite soon, i think, to marry quite soon, i think, because there you are. Tell us what your thoughts are on marriage in later life and love in later life. I think its quite sweet in a way. I mean, you know, its got all the in the world, all the money in the world, isnt want for anything, but he just wants love. Just wants. He wants love. Yeah, wants love. And he yeah, he wants love. And he wants a lovely on his arm wants a lovely lady on his arm and he wants to. He obviously still goes these dos still goes to these big dos and i dont not. If youve i dont know why not. If youve got it, flaunt it i say, but not on this occasion. I wish him well. I hope it lasts, at least for a while now. Weve got plenty of interesting plenty of very interesting and some things some very controversial things to today. As to be talking about today. As you have heard, the these you will have heard, the these pro palestinian demonstrations are going to go ahead today. It being saturday for the First Time Since that Counter Terrorism , the man Counter Terrorism tsar, the man who advises the government on Counter Terrorism things. Well, Counter Terrorism things. Well, he said yesterday and it made all of the papers or all of the programmes yesterday, didnt it, that certain parts london had that certain parts of london had become no go areas forjews. Yeah. And thats robert simcox. He said that. And this protest follows accusations by the chair of the Foreign Affairs select committee that israel is also blocking aid into gaza. Yes. And then that comes as protest group Palestine Action says spray and slash. If youre listening on the radio, its an awful thing to see actually any painting being completely slashed to bits. Completely slashed to bits. Spray painted. It was a picture, a painting of lord balfour. It happened at the university of cambridge. Cambridge. Yeah, its a grotesque act of vandalism. And the group claims the piece symbolised the bloodshed of the Palestinian People since the Balfour Declaration in 1917. Well, our Political Correspondent, Katherine Forster has been following the protests. Has been following the protests. There are forces here at home trying to tear us apart to advance a divisive, hateful, ideological agenda. Dont let the extremists hijack your marches. That was the Prime Ministers appeal last week. Today, another pro palestine march, hundreds of thousands marching against a war 2000 miles away in gaza with over a thousand Police Officers on duty. The governments counter extremism tsar warns london is becoming a no go area for jews, saying the uk has forjews, saying the uk has a permissive environment for radicalisation. Since october radicalisation. Since october the 7th, theres been dozens of marches across the uk, mostly pro palestine, some pro israel incidents of anti semitism and anti Muslim Hatred have surged. Anti Muslim Hatred have surged. Many are marching simply against the horrors unfolding in gaza. I feel helpless, i cant sleep at night. Im watching this genocide and i will do everything i can in my power to march against it. These marches have been peaceful. Theyve been full of dogs and children and the people of london. Ive been a londoner. Ive been living here all my life, and im actually proud of the people in london today. Not everyone is so but not everyone is so amenable. Dozens been amenable. Dozens have been arrested, and policing the protests cost some £25 protests has cost some £25 million by the end of last year. The police are under pressure to get tougher. Get tougher. You can freely criticise the actions of this government or indeed any government. You cannot use that as an excuse to call for the eradication of a state or any kind of hatred or anti semitism. This week ive anti semitism. This week ive met with senior Police Officers and made clear it is the publics expectation that they will not merely manage these protests, but police them. And i say this to the police we will back you when you take action, but without changes to legislation. Gb news understands policing at todays march will be no different to before , and met different to before, and met police chief sir mark rowley is standing his ground. Were obviously operating in a very challenging political environment where tensions remain high. We have to police the law as it is not as others would wish it to be. Mayor of london sadiq khan is unimpressed. The police have operational independence. I think its really unfortunate when politicians give the impression they can tell the police what to do. Look, if the Prime Minister is telling the police today which marches to allow which marches to ban, whats to stop him tomorrow, telling the police to who arrest, who to charge, to who to arrest, who to charge, who prosecute. We dont live who to prosecute. We dont live in korea. Dont live in in north korea. We dont live in russia. Live in the uk. That russia. We live in the uk. That being said, id encourage anybody on a protest to anybody going on a protest to please cognisant of the fact please be cognisant of the fact that you can say things that cause real concern, fear. So another saturday, another march, until theres a genuine, lasting ceasefire in gaza, there will be more. Katherine forster. Gb news. Burley well, joining us now is former special adviser to michael gove. Charlie rowley. Charlie, welcome to the show. Here we are again another saturday, another march. But the pubuc saturday, another march. But the public mood seems to be changing , robert simcox, the home Affairs Independent adviser on extremism, is saying that these marches are becoming infected with extremists. Rishi sunak seems to be asking for tougher policing. Sir mark rowley saying, well, leave us alone. Take the politics out of policing. No go zones forjewish policing. No go zones forjewish people is what the conclusion is, and yet theyre still going ahead. Yes i think thats right. And i think look you know, the whole point of the policing of the protest is to make sure that people do have the right to protest. You can protest peacefully. That is an underlying right have in underlying right that we have in this something that we this country, something that we always, sometimes take always, i think, sometimes take for you cant for granted, because you cant do many other countries do that, in many other countries in world and many of the in the world and many of the other countries that they happen to supporting, is to be supporting, which is ironic. But got ironic. Exactly. But youve got to everybody to make sure that everybody in the feels as safe the United Kingdom feels as safe as they possibly can. And when you weekend after weekend you hear weekend after weekend chants of jihad or chants or seeing banners or posters or seeing banners or posters or seeing people as part of these protesting protest groups tearing down hostage posters, posters of those that are still hostage to the terrorist organisation hamas. It stokes tensions. It doesnt sort of reduce those those conflicts within the uk. So youve got to within the uk. So youve got to make sure that people that are on these protests are protesting peacefully to make sure that london can be or any other city centre for that matter, can be as safe as it possibly can be for anyone of any creed, any religion, any colour, any sexual orientation, that. Orientation, anything like that. So to get so the police do need to get tougher, i think, those that tougher, i think, on those that are not protesting peacefully or in of what in the spirit of what the protests should be. And thats what minister is what the Prime Minister is asking last week. Asking for. Last week. Mean, the freedom to the i mean, the freedom to the freedom that we enjoy in this country, protest, is, if you country, to protest, is, if you like, to politicians, like, up to the politicians, the way it to make sure way you police it to make sure they are abiding by the law is up to the police. And the politicians keep stressing that, dont they . Its not our job to ban this or ban that. It is. It is up to the police , to police is up to the police, to police it, and rishi sunak was very adamant that, you know, if you want to take action. He said to the police, we will support you. I just if that those i just wonder if that those words are going to make a difference. Well, well have to find out later on today, i suppose. But i think its the consistency, the level of policing consistency that want in this country that people want in this country where officers. Where you see Police Officers. We saw videos on social we saw some videos on social media, i think week or the media, i think last week or the week sort of, you know, week before, sort of, you know, confronting that confronting people that were, i think, just religious activists outside church preaching, you outside a church preaching, you know, god, christians preaching god, have god, where the police might have taken approach taken a heavy handed approach compared of the chanting compared to some of the chanting that you see the streets on a that you see on the streets on a saturday night where they just let protesters on by. Let those protesters walk on by. So element so its the element of consistency i people consistency that i think people want comes to policing. Want when it comes to policing. But ultimately youve got to make a everybody the make sure a everybody in the united or in United Kingdom or anyone in london other Centre London or any other city centre where a protest taking where theres a protest taking place feel safe, and place that people feel safe, and if its not the case, then the police to, i think, step police need to, i think, step in. Well, h issue is the police well, the issue is the police have the power to enforce, but do they have the will to enforce . Wednesday, enforce . Now that wednesday, when projecting those when they were projecting those images i went into images onto big ben, i went into that protest. It on my way that protest. It was on my way home. Was at the westminster home. I was at the westminster studio the studio and i could see the projector clearly. I projector very clearly. And i said police, thats an said to the police, thats an offence. You need a licence to do that because i know the law. What are you going to do, go and arrest no arrest them . They had no interest. Throwing interest. They were throwing eggs had no interest eggs at me. They had no interest in anything about it. They in doing anything about it. They were throwing fluids. It could have anything. They no have been anything. They had no interest. To the interest. I was saying to the police, that got police, that guys got a balaclava now illegal. Go balaclava thats now illegal. Go and they had no and arrest him. They had no interest. Stand off interest. The police stand off on protests. And on these protests. And yet i went on the Armistice Day protest they waded in with protest and they waded in with batons. Think have two batons. I think we have two tiered policing, and thats self evident. Do you think . Self evident. What do you think . Jolly i certainly jolly well, i think certainly projecting house of parliament. I mean, isnt old i mean, this isnt any old pubuc i mean, this isnt any old public building. Is the public building. This is the houses parliament. You know, houses of parliament. You know, where were. The projection where they were. The projection was to the sea. Was from the river to the sea. Now therell be lots of people that come shows like this and that come on shows like this and say so many say that that has so many different but the different meanings. But the reality is an offensive reality is it is an offensive terme community. Terme to the Jewish Community. Therefore, that it was therefore, the idea that it was allowed or continue be allowed or continue to be allowed or continue to be allowed sort of plastered allowed to be sort of plastered across parliament was wrong. The police on police should have stepped in on that, that matter, and that, on that matter, and i think thats what led events think thats what led to events last week the week before of last week or the week before of lee anderson saying he lee anderson saying what he said, which obviously generated conversation much across the country. Got make conversation much across the counthat got make conversation much across the counthat when got make conversation much across the counthat when protests make conversation much across the counthat when protests take ake sure that when protests take place that policed place that they are policed appropriately, that actually the that said consistent that they are said consistent consistently. Exactly. And that they are effective. And the reality these protests reality is that these protests have on weekend after have been going on weekend after weekend, they achieved weekend, have they achieved what the pro palestinian, protesters want to see, who knows . Possibly. Who knows. But i think what you have to try and recognise what the home secretary was saying is that, look, this costs a lot of money to the taxpayer as well and so forth. And you have to look at the of what the the actions of what the government doing. And think government is doing. And i think the government under lord the uk government under lord cameron, whatever you cameron, you doing whatever you think David Cameron . Think of David Cameron . Actually, gone actually, hes probably gone further other further than any other politician, further than any other politician other labour than any other labour politician, try and bring politician, to try and bring peace stability in peace and stability in that area. Its uk government area. Its the uk government that taking action to try and that is taking action to try and get aid into gaza. Thats something everybody wants something that everybody wants to need to have to see. Do we need to have protests on street, weekend protests on the street, weekend after to and achieve after weekend to try and achieve something is something that the government is effectively doing . Effectively already doing . If those you cant ban it if those people want it, they have a right to it. Well, the bandit germany, well, the bandit in germany, the france. The bandit in france. Yeah, we dont want to be yeah, but we dont want to be seen to be. I mean, isnt that the problem . The police dont want to be seen to be acting like state. Theyre like a police state. Theyre very, how it makes very, very wary of how it makes them actions got to them look, but actions got to be sooner later, be taken sooner or later, hasnt it . Anyway wed love to it . Anyway well, wed love to know on that. Know your views on that. Vaiews gbnews. Com, usual. Vaiews gbnews. Com, as usual. Very charlie thank you very much. Charlie rowley. Now meghan has been yeah. Now meghan has been vociferous again. Well, it was International Womens day and last a panel last night she joined a Panel Discussion womens discussion on womens representation in entertainment and the media. Meghan markle the yeah, Meghan Markle told the panel she was cyberbullied while pregnant and pregnant with archie and lilibet. Yeah which is quite a bulk of the bullying and abuse that i was experiencing in social and online was when social media and online was when i was pregnant with archie and with lili, and with a newborn, with lili, and with a newborn, with each of them, and you just think about that, and you , its think about that, and you, its really wrap your head around why people would be so , so hateful. People would be so, so hateful. Its not catty, its cruel why you would do that. And certainly when youre pregnant, you have a newborn. We all as you have a newborn. We all as moms, you know, its such a tender and sacred time. Tender and sacred time. Its horrible to hear no matter what you think of her. I think, on the other hand, i cant help think, why is she engaging with it . Why would she read it while she was pregnant, if this all comes. Of course. After news yesterday, we were talking about it, she is talking about it, that she is actually looking for a pr guru here britain relaunch her here in britain to relaunch her status in the uk and lets have cake. And were joined now. And were joined now. Yeah, weve got grant harrold. I think were going to, were going to meet former royal butler, of course, whos seen the cutting edge of this sort of unkindness. Very good morning unkindness. A very good morning to grant. To you, grant. Good morning and good morning. Martin. Do this makes me do you know this makes me think i cant help wondering, if Princess Diana had been around in this sort of social media age, how she would have coped. Thats extraordinary. I honestly was thinking the exact same thing when i watched that clip, because i was thinking back then, she would have obviously got if she was on social media, she would have got the positive. And im sure the negative. And again, how would she have coped . How does anyone cope . Millions of cope . You know, millions of people sadly this online people sadly get this online bullying. , as you know, bullying. I mean, as you know, i do a lot on social media and sometimes i attacked. So it sometimes i get attacked. So it happens the time. But i also happens all the time. But i also agree with you said and agree with what you said and its she was its interesting that she was reading engaging, reading and engaging, because i think of members of the think a lot of members of the royal family do not go on social media, media, for that media, social media, for that very reason. So they dont see the kind negative the all these kind of negative comments because there is positive but theres always negative. Positive but theres always negativ i think this is the thing, isnt it . You know, the public. This is just my feeling , from this is just my feeling, from what i can see is i dont think people really like it. I think , people really like it. I think, you know, whether, as you said, people like or hate her. You know, that everyones got their own opinion, which is fantastic. But, you know, sometimes you think rising think maybe you should be rising above can i say, if you above it. And can i say, if you look at the catherine, the princess wales, i think we princess of wales, i think we all agree that once again, she never of puts a foot wrong. Never kind of puts a foot wrong. It doesnt to say that it doesnt mean to say that shes not on social media. I honestly could honestly dont know. She could be media. But again, be on social media. But again, she you know. She she doesnt let you know. She doesnt kind of comment about it. She doesnt of talk it. She doesnt kind of talk about it. And i think this is the thing, know, again, the thing, you know, again, this is late queen is why i think the late queen and dont engage in and the king dont engage in this of thing because they this kind of thing because they dont want to get involved in it. Thats probably not it. And thats probably not a bad thing do. But also they bad thing to do. But also they are obviously they are no longer working of the royal working members of the royal family, but they are young royals is a big royals and social media is a big part going forward. Part of going forward. And i noficed part of going forward. And i noticed that the royal family, they use social media a lot they do use social media a lot to promote what goes on behind the which fantastic. The scenes, which is fantastic. It gives people insight into it gives people an insight into a that only people like a world that only people like myself at myself have got to really see at one time. It bites you back, yes, it it bites you back, doesnt it . Its interesting that actually even kensington palace, staff there palace, i think the staff there have upset by of have been so upset by some of the terrible things that have been instance, about been said, for instance, about princess catherine and about what that what may be ailing her, that they actually put out a statement saying enough. Can you just this just stop it . Stop all this speculation . Even if princess speculation . So even if princess catherine isnt reading catherine herself isnt reading it, are, and it, her staff are, and its clearly getting to them and her friends, you know, her friends , friends, you know, her friends, her parents, her sister, her brother, because her brother obviously does social media, you know, theyll be aware of it. And im sure theyre kind of saying to her, unhappy about it. And do you know, whatevers going you know, last going on, you know, the last thing to be thinking thing she needs to be thinking about is whats going on on about is, is whats going on on social media. Do you know, social media. And do you know, the thing is, i remember the other thing is, i remember when for them, she was when i worked for them, she was always very. And william, they love quite rightly. Love the privacy, quite rightly. And that theyve love the privacy, quite rightly. And to that theyve love the privacy, quite rightly. And to on that theyve love the privacy, quite rightly. And to on asat theyve love the privacy, quite rightly. And to on as longeyve love the privacy, quite rightly. And to on as long ase tried to hold on to as long as they can. But now, obviously, they can. But now, obviously, they are the prince of wales. We are interested, the public want to think its to know, and i dont think its so wanting to know. Well, so much wanting to know. Well, i suppose do want to a suppose they do want to know a lot what on behind the lot what goes on behind the scenes, but i think they just want to make sure that shes okay. I theres a very okay. And i think theres a very fine giving that fine line between giving us that information going information and kind of going too far it can invading the too far that it can invading the privacy. I think the problem. Do you think grant a better role model would be one who said, delete apps, said, just delete all your apps, just look at social media, just dont look at social media, dont the troll, just rise dont feed the troll, just rise above this and be a bigger person. Absolutely. Just take time. I think most social media apps now are you is it time are like you take is it time out . So if it really is that upsetting, which ive it, upsetting, which ive done it, a few have done it. Few other people have done it. Its a good idea. Its its sometimes a good idea. Its also healthy, sometimes just also healthy, sometimes to just take break from it and take a little break from it and actually just get back into the real, the real world. But as social media is developing, and all technology, all this other technology, i think become think its going to be become more to do that, unfortunately. Yeah. I think it just illustrates, though, doesnt it, the of very difficult the sort of very difficult role that harry and meghan have forged for themselves. If youre if if if youre princess catherine, if youre need youre the king, you dont need social to be who you are. Social media to be who you are. You have status already. You have that status already. But meghan have to but harry and meghan have to make own living now, and make their own living now, and their media profile is their social media profile is money isnt it . So they money to them, isnt it . So they have to engage with it . Absolutely, absolutely. Have to engage with it . Abso mean, absolutely. Have to engage with it . Abso mean, abs i mean, its the whole you know, think about know, i think the thing about social media it does raise social media is it does raise your profile. It does put you out there. Theres no question about it. And as you said, if youre a senior of youre a Senior Member of the royal need royal family, you dont need that. Are doing what that. But if you are doing what theyre doing, you know, celebrity royals, i celebrity royals, as i call them, they have kind of keep them, they have to kind of keep themselves relevant. They have to be of seen. And to expose, be kind of seen. And one the ways of doing that one of the ways of doing that is because an because social media has got an extraordinary you extraordinary reach. And, you know, great way to kind know, its a great way to kind of get things out there. But again, it can come back on again, its it can come back on you. It can it can go badly as well. If you, you know, if you if you do read a lot of these comments, all it comments, which we all do, it can obviously affect you. I have no it can affect your no doubt it can affect your Mental Health well. Reading Mental Health as well. Reading negative and its it negative comments. And its a it can be horrible world, can be can be a horrible world, can be a world. A horrible world. Social media are you on it . Social media are you on it . I i am youre youre i am, i am youre youre aware of the good and bad of it 100. I mean, sometimes i put posts and the its posts up and the its extraordinary theyre extraordinary and theyre seen by i mean, of my by millions. I mean, one of my posts was about posts i think was about 10 million and million recently. And the comments, comments comments, the comments were terrifying. What terrifying. But what was interesting martin the interesting on martin was the comment. Was actually about comment. It was actually about the health. It was when the kings health. It was when you obviously the cancer you obviously noticed the cancer diagnosis and i a support, diagnosis and i just a support, you obviously, just as you know, obviously, just as a former butler, just saying i wish them the best and supported him. Comments were him. The comments were extraordinary. There was tens of thousands comments and the thousands of comments and the things people saying things that people were saying was and there was was unbelievable. And there was fighting going on, on. Ive just walked it. Im not walked away from it. Im not even looking at it. And again, this is why i think it can go badly wrong, because if that was a say, about myself or a post, say, about myself or a family people were Family Member and people were getting has getting involved, which has happened past, can be happened in the past, it can be really they can be quite nasty. I think thing social i think the thing about social media that media is the people that comment, almost comment, they can almost hide behind of invisible behind this kind of invisible cartoon, you know, they can say what want theyre not what they want and theyre not really, you you can have really, you know, you can have an invisible profile, cant really, you know, you can have an invs0 le profile, cant really, you know, you can have an invso this rofile, cant really, you know, you can have an invso this isile, cant really, you know, you can have an invso this is the cant really, you know, you can have an invso this is the problem. They . So this is the problem. This is where it can be, and it can so i think can be upsetting. So i think its i do i post and its what i do is i post and then sometimes i read the comments, but other times if it gets little bit negative, gets a little bit negative, i think im not going to go there. And think thats the best way and i think thats the best way to with it. To deal with it. Okay, bright arrow, we have, we to leave it grand we have to leave it there. Grand herald thank much for herald thank you very much for joining one day well i wonder if one day well look you know, years, look back. You know, 20 years, 30 years time say, oh, that 30 years time and say, oh, that was age of social media, was the age of social media, wasnt it . Terrible. Its over. Oven just just dont look at the comments. Thats do. Comments. Thats what i do. I get abused the time. Just get abused all the time. Just dont them. Dont have a look at them. On it if youre but why be on it if youre not to look because not going to look at it because you want to project yourself out, have to. Out, but you dont have to. Or read it. Dont respond or read it. Just project and just just go into transmission thats into transmission mode. Thats it. Probably. Anyway, into transmission mode. Thats it. Know. Probably. Anyway, into transmission mode. Thats it. Know. Pa bably. Anyway, into transmission mode. Thats it. Know. Pa veryl. Anyway, into transmission mode. Thats it. Know. Pa very weird nay, let us know. Its a very weird position the royals now position that the royals are now in. Think moment, but in. I think at the moment, but particularly and meghan, particularly harry and meghan, who royal who are sort of half royal and half the they half not, thats the role they chose, suppose chose, though i suppose its 623. We a look at 623. Should we have a look at some of the other news stories coming the newsroom moment . And voting finished in and voting has finished in ireland on proposed changes to their constitution . If approved, it would see references to a womans role and duties in the home , extend protections home deleted, extend protections to oblige to unmarried families and oblige a state to support family carers. The irish constitution can only be changed with the approval of irish citizens through a national vote. The number of nurses in england planning on leaving the country to work abroad has risen fourfold in six years. The Royal College of nursing says that over 10,000 certificates were issued last year, as the nhs struggles with staff retainment. The Royal College of nursing general secretary, has said that low pay and poor working conditions are driving chronic workforce shortages and in a unique celebration of love, a couple have tied the knot on board a train. Leah and vince smith, who first met on a train in 2016, shared their first kiss on a train and commuted by train throughout their relationship. So where better to celebrate their entire wedding than on another train from london paddington to swansea . The ceremony unfolded with 14 guests, traditional vows and a three course meal in the dining corps. Corps. Talking about love and marriage quite a lot today, arent we . Because Rupert Murdoch, at the age of 92, has become again. And if become engaged again. And if this does go through to a wedding, because the last engagement didnt , it would be wedding, because the last engsixth,ant didnt , it would be wedding, because the last engsixth, we didnt , it would be wedding, because the last engsixth, we reckon, it would be wedding, because the last engsixth, we reckon, dontrld be wedding, because the last engsixth, we reckon, dont we . E his sixth, we reckon, dont we . Think probably his sixth, we reckon, dont we . Do think probably his sixth, we reckon, dont we . Do on1k probably his sixth, we reckon, dont we . Do on a probably his sixth, we reckon, dont we . Do on a train. Obably wont do it on a train. Never know. He one of his you never know. He one of his weddings. He did on his yacht. If you have a yacht, thats where you your wedding, i where you do your wedding, i suppose. We talk about suppose. Should we talk about primary america . Primary season in america . Because, it is because, all of the it is getting sorted. Its building already, isnt it . Even though the election isnt till november. November the 5th. Yeah. Is it november the 5th . It is fireworks, indeed. Interesting. Anyway the primary season is almost over, and it seems the country is bracing itself for a rematch between joe biden and donald trump, for the big white house job. And the rivals are set to take part in a duelling rally in georgia over the weekend. But as the internal campaigning season draws to a close, how will each candidate pivot themselves for re election . Well, lets ask former adviser to clinton and bush administration, steve gill. Steve, always a pleasure to have you on the show. So here we go. Heading for a straight rematch of the last time around. Two very different candidates, though, and all eyes were on joe biden this week, an extraordinary state of the union speech where he just blasted donald trump for the entire performance. Yes. Performance. Yes. Yeah, ive told people i havent been yelled at like that since i showed up an hour late from curfew , back at my parents from curfew, back at my parents house when i was in high school, and hit the mailboxes , i was and hit the mailboxes, i was pulling into the driveway. I felt like i back that felt like i was back in that same position , you it was same position, you know, it was interesting. He was showing fiery. Showing passion , fiery. He was showing passion, and, you know, people may have gone his gone from wondering about his cognitive skills to whether his temperament, being temperament, fits being president , but then he was out president , but then he was out on the campaign again on the campaign trail again today, the same sort today, and it was the same sort of joe, saying things of bumbling joe, saying things that were, you know, incoherent, so i think they were able to kind rev him up for one kind of rev him up for one night, but now back to the night, but now hes back to the same joe. Yeah. Same old joe. Yeah. His performance was, extra ordinary, actually, because he looked more lively than he has donein looked more lively than he has done in the last few months. But trump has already answered back , trump has already answered back, hasnt he . Hes made fun of him with various videos that have been gone through some sort of a weird app, its going to be quite a venomous fight this time, isnt it . Yeah, i think even more bitter and brutal than weve probably ever seen in american politics. You know, the interesting thing is, i think were not going to see a lot more of joe biden. I think theyre going to hide him like theyre going to hide him like they years ago. I they did four years ago. I was with the former press with one of the former press secretaries, ari fleischer. The other made the point other day. He made the point that last time they joe that last time they hid joe biden basement, this time biden in the basement, this time theyre hide him in the theyre going to hide him in the basement camp basement of camp david and camp david doesnt have basement, david doesnt have a basement, on hand, theyre going on the other hand, theyre going to after donald to be going after donald trump and attacks and let all the attacks on donald trump and his personality kind of be their guide. Vine and in my view, if this Campaign Ends up being about, President Trumps personality, he loses. Trumps personality, he loses. If he can make it about policy, if he can talk about what he did, what hes going to do, then he probably wins the problem is, donald trump likes making it all about so hes going to play about him. So hes going to play right into the biden hands unless can really focus on unless he can really focus on policy and not let his personality the driving force. And steve, joe biden talked a lot about trump. He talked about gaza, he talks about ukraine. He talks about trans issues. But he didnt talk about the big issue, which seems to be dividing america right now. And that is the porous border to the south. How big a deal is immigration going to be in this election . And clearly, you would think of the two candidates. Donald trump is to be the stronger of is going to be the stronger of the two. I think it will be the defining issue of the campaign. And when he did talk about the border, was kind of forced to talk about the young woman in georgia by an georgia who was murdered by an illegal he only illegal alien, he not only offended left by calling him offended the left by calling him an illegal, but then mispronounced her name and called her Lincoln Riley instead of Lincoln Riley. So, i mean, he really kind of heard it on on both fronts. The reason immigration in the poorest borders are so important is i think it covers a lot of issues. It covers Community Safety and crime. It covers the burden on our care system. When our health care system. When youve 15 million youve got 12, 15 million illegals pouring into illegals that are pouring into our hospitals, it cuts into the economy. The issue of whether or economy. The issue of whether or not theyre taking jobs away from americans. Its a National Security issue. When we know that terrorists and spies are coming across the border. So while immigration is an issue, people can see very clearly when you see people flooding across the border, it hits on so many other issues. And really, this issue is almost baked in at this point, biden cant really do anything to turn the tide unless he did executive orders, reversing everything. He reversed the first day he was in office, and his left wont let him do that. So i dont think he can change that. And i think inflation is baked in sort of like seeing in britain as like youre seeing in britain as well the economic is well. The Economic Situation is baked point , well. The Economic Situation is baked point, and baked in at this point, and theres really not anything rishi sunak can do to change it before it gets to an election, whether its spring or whether its fall at point the its fall at some point the issues are in and issues are baked in and candidates cant candidates really cant do anything tone. Anything to change the tone. Okay, well leave it there. Thank you very much indeed. Well be talking about it, at least the next year, wont least for the next year, wont we . To seeing we . So look forward to seeing you soon. You. Yeah, you again soon. Thank you. Yeah, all very much all of those issues very much baked countries all over baked into countries all over the world now. Yeah, going to be an yeah, its going to be an extraordinary election. One of the venomous, hard the most venomous, hard fought and funded elections in and highest funded elections in the history of politics. And well of the coverage , well have all of the coverage, of course, here on gb news. I just its going to be an just think its going to be an amazing whatever you amazing spectacle. Whatever you think i think of either candidate, i think of either candidate, i think up think well end up hating everybody politicians , everybody and all politicians, dont everybody and all politicians, dorthe greatest show earth. The greatest show on earth. Yeah. Greatest yeah. Very exciting. Greatest show 631 show on earth, really. 631 it is. Lets out what the is. Lets find out what the weather has store. Weather has in store. Hi there and welcome to the latest forecast for gb news from the met office. Its going to be a dull weekend, a cold feel as well with brisk easterly winds and spells of rain or showers moving across the country. We start a lot of start the day with a lot of cloud cover, outbreaks of rain moving parts of moving through parts of southwest england , wales, the southwest england, wales, the midlands england, midlands into Northern England, eventually midlands into Northern England, eventu showers carried in into seeing showers carried in into the east. And were going to see outbreaks of rain also arriving into eastern parts of northern ireland. Driest and brightest weather towards the southeast, with sunny spells, western with some sunny spells, western scotland as well, and after a chilly start, things will warm up a touch, although it will stay on the cold side in the east, with the brisk wind coming from the north sea into the evening. Further spells of rain or showers , some heavy at times or showers, some heavy at times across the southwest, as as across the southwest, as well as into wales, Northern England and then the southeast , gets a bit then the southeast, gets a bit of a soaking as a band of persistent rain moves through , persistent rain moves through, and that spreads across much of the the uk. Overnight, the east of the uk. Overnight, a few showers continuing further west, course , with the cloud west, of course, with the cloud and the rain and the breeze overnight, its going to be mostly free, although mostly frost free, although there of frost there will be a touch of frost across western where we across western scotland where we do clear do get some prolonged clear spells. Unsettled spells. But its an unsettled start to the day tomorrow. A lot of cloud cover spells of rain for many places, especially across into of across scotland into much of england , east wales and Northern England, east wales and northern ireland. 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Which, as you say, youd think youd be all right weather wise in hawaii, wouldnt you . Was no good . Was it no good . Was. It was really no, it was. It was really bad, daniel. Chucked it down. The sea it chucked it down. The sea was like and. Yeah, was going like that and. Yeah, but brought the but the way it brought the whales out, there was one very successful whale watching day. Successful whale watching day. So i did see lots of humpback whales. I was hoping to see one. We saw about 20. Go, brilliant, you go we go, brilliant, you go serve. Have been good serve. It would have been good surfing weather. The weather was no no no no, the weather was bad. Seriously bad. Rain, bad. I mean seriously bad. Rain, wind, everything. The surf wind, cold, everything. The surf looked good if you could see it, but you couldnt actually see very far in front of your face. That. A lower you wanted that. A lower hawaii tropical experience. And instead it wasnt quite. It an experience. All right. It was an experience. All right. You were hanging on your you were hanging on to your son. You were hanging on to your sonanyway, so much anyway, thank you so much yesterday i was asking yesterday because i was asking people Holiday People for their bad holiday stories up. We stories to cheer me up. And we had some real crackers, thank had some real crackers, so thank you indeed , right. We you very much indeed, right. We were yesterday about were talking yesterday about the dust thats dust up in the desert. Thats the boxing aiden. It wasnt a dust was a disaster. Dust up. It was a disaster. A disaster for Francis Ngannou, a demolition forjob Anthony Joshua, proving that hes probably trajectory hes probably on that trajectory now. Im starting to believe now. And im starting to believe that hes somewhere his that hes somewhere near his best. That four wins. Now in best. That was four wins. Now in 11 hes fighting quite 11 months, hes fighting quite regularly. Say that regularly. They often say that when fighter when a when a fighter needs to kind undergo period of kind of undergo a period of resurgence, then its best to get them in ring get them, get them in the ring as possible. Nobody can get them, get them in the ring as hes possible. Nobody can get them, get them in the ring as hes not ossible. Nobody can get them, get them in the ring as hes not beenle. Nobody can get them, get them in the ring as hes not been active ody can get them, get them in the ring as hes not been active with can say hes not been active with four year. That four fights in in a year. That certainly puts of his certainly puts some of his rivals given the rivals to shame, given the regularity appearances regularity of their appearances in nonetheless, in the ring. Nonetheless, francis only his Francis Ngannou is only his second fight as a boxer. Hes a hes a ufc fighter , but he ufc. Hes a ufc fighter, but he ufc. Yeah. So is it mixed martial arts . Its a different , slightly arts . Its a different, slightly different discipline. You use your bit more, you kick a your legs a bit more, you kick a bit hes hes bit more. And hes hes imperious kind imperious at that in that kind of discipline. Crossing over of discipline. But crossing over into different ball into boxing is a different ball game. Did well against game. He did did well against tyson last october although game. He did did well against tyswe last october although game. He did did well against tyswe discussed ctober although game. He did did well against tyswe discussed inober although game. He did did well against tyswe discussed inoberbreak,|gh as we discussed in the break, didnt we . Tyson fury was a little bit out of shape for that one. Wasnt really taking it seriously, taking match seriously, taking if a match like all build up like this with all the build up there was ends the second there was ends in the second round knockout. Round with a knockout. Moneymen think what do the moneymen think and fans think . And what do the fans think . Because over the interesting, because over the years , yes, its been it was 20 years, yes, its been it was 20 years, yes, its been it was 20 years ago. Was a big problem years ago. It was a big problem because it just of the because it was just luck of the draw. Turn up, you can draw. You turn up, you can expect to go the expect a fight to go the distance, but if ends the distance, but if it ends in the first round they can, as can first round as they can, as can happen often, then yes, happen quite often, then yes, fans shortchanged. Fans feel shortchanged. Theyre not amounts not playing small amounts of money especially money for this, especially now theyre having to go across territories other side territories the other side of the to watch fights the world to watch these fights sometimes. Now sometimes. So what they do now is the undercard. They is they pack the undercard. They make when you go make sure that when you go to a match, you can see anything up to fights. To the o2 to ten fights. You go to the o2 to ten fights. You go to the o2 to aj. | to ten fights. You go to the o2 to aj. I used to cover it to watch aj. I used to cover it for employers. For my previous employers. I would get there. It would have to get there. It would have to get there. It would an all day thing would be an all day thing because would start because the action would start events yes. So undercard, events. Yes. So the undercard, the carried the undercard carried on a little last night, little bit too long last night, so we expecting a start of so we were expecting a start of around midnight. Didnt around about midnight. It didnt get until 320 because get going until 320 because the previous at previous fights went on, so at least the punters can away least the punters can go away thinking, weve some thinking, okay, weve seen some stuff , whats interesting is stuff now, whats interesting is that thats why of that thats why some of these fights long to put fights take so long to put together. Its not just about the event, its also about the main event, its also about the main event, its also about the. Is there enough the undercard. Is there enough there capture the attention the undercard. Is there enough th no he was he looked very very good. But also i covered Anthony Joshua in the very early days of his back in 2015. I was his career. Back in 2015. I was never was as never convinced that he was as good he he good as everyone said he was. He was managed was carefully managed by his promoters, carefully managed by the broadcasters, and then he kind found out, kind of got found out, especially andy five especially with andy ruiz five years that first fight years ago in that first fight where floored times where he was floored four times and battering and given an absolute battering to it, frankly, to put to put it, quite frankly, to put it tyson fury it quite frankly, tyson fury then on the inside then came up on the inside track, with everyone track, having with everyone having so lets having written him off. So lets see what happens anthony see what happens with Anthony Joshua think joshua going forward. I think this as good a shape as ive this is as good a shape as ive seen him in a while, but im not getting carried away. Seen him in a while, but im not get okay arried away. Seen him in a while, but im not get okay ,ried away. Seen him in a while, but im not get okay , were way. Seen him in a while, but im not get okay , were going okay, were going to leave sport for moment, but sport there for the moment, but youll less than an youll be back in less than an houn youll be back in less than an hour, course, but weve got hour, of course, but weve got to break because still to head to a break because still to head to a break because still to got the to come, weve got the newspapers takyi newspapers with Stephanie Takyi and about the. And its time for the newspapers. Now weve got Stephanie Takyi with us. Lovely to see you. See you and susan holder. Lovely to see you, too. Looking very christmassy. Youre wearing tartan . Wearing tartan . No, i everyone said that this morning. Although you did me of although you did accuse me of being roller, so i being a bay city roller, so i did. Yeah. So. Yeah, either. Way, things, whatever. W whatever. Get on with the newspapers . Theres talk because theres lots to talk about today. Because theres lots to talk abo suze,iay. Because theres lots to talk abosuze,iay. Start because theres lots to talk abo suze,iay. Start with because theres lots to talk abosuze,iay. Start with its suze, lets start with its an story, isnt it . This an amazing story, isnt it . This humza yousaf in a row, over a quarter £1 million gap, quarter of £1 million gap, a cash donation. Whats going on . Yes so apparently he action for this to be sent, at the at so apparently he action for this to be sent , at the at the this to be sent, at the at the point where his mother and father in law were trapped in gaza and then the within days of this happening, his £250,000 donation being given, to unicef and the United Nations agency, which provides humanitarian aid to children to in gaza. They were given safe passage out. Now theyre obviously saying there is no connection between the two, but they are accusing him of a conflict of interest. Yeah, i dont know. Having said all that, though, they were due to i mean, it isnt just on his say so. Theyre kind of making out. Its all to do with with him only. But his his advisors were actually suggesting that they were going to give between 100 and £200,000 anyway. And he just went, just go for the 250 went, lets just go for the 250 and do it. So actually, are we are we arguing over something kind of its being made to look like hes just gone in there and done this. But actually there was team behind him was a whole team behind him who were that. But were advising that. Yeah, but the some this is the fact that some of this is going to things that support hamas obviously the big hamas is obviously the big question, but a lot of countries which did withdraw their funding for are considering for unrwa are now considering funding them again. , because theyre the yeah, because theyre the only people helping. How you get the aid in, its how you get the aid in, isnt it . And you could quibble over but over the semantics, but actually, aidan magee quibble actually, if aidan magee quibble with ideals, with the highest of ideals, there are people terribly starving now. And think nearly everybody and i think nearly everybody accepts and understands that somethings be somethings got to be done. You to ask, what is and you have to ask, what is £50,000 you know, with all £50,000 more . You know, with all this thats going on this disaster thats going on out there, its like he was given a recommendation of 100,000 to 200,000. So its not like hes gone £1 million more. You know, hes got bigger fish to fry. So. Well, there are two clear points though. Yeah the first one being that the Israeli Defence has said that this Defence Force has said that this law, you know, been law, you know, have been directly employing who directly employing people who were involved in the october 7 pogrom. So theres a clear political. And then i wonder if theres also an issue about the fact seeing a huge fact today were seeing a huge rally supporting the rally in glasgow, supporting the pro palestine side. And if the first minister is sending quarter of £1 million to them, what does that say to the public . Because we know were already a massive already facing a massive policing issue. The first minister side the minister is on the side of the protesters. Coppers protesters. What are the coppers do . I he would like well, i guess he would like to think that hes not actually funding hamas. Hes probably done as goodwill done it as a goodwill gesture. Hes about people hes thinking about the people in gaza right who have no in gaza right now who have no place live, no no place to live, no food, no water. So i dont think he sees it he is funding terrorism. It as he is funding terrorism. And with these things as well, its to trace where this its hard to trace where this money actually landing. So money is actually landing. So you have to that you just have to believe that it is to goodwill. Is going to a goodwill. Well, already said that well, weve already said that were support the in were going to support the us in their mission to this their mission to create this offshore aid place, offshore sort of, aid place, like a pontoon or something, isnt it . And maybe that will be the answer, who knows . Who knows how long this is awful awfulness is going to go on for. Stephanie. Youve been looking at the times, which covers these two amazing mums. Yeah, of barney and grace. They were the two students who were murdered in nottingham. In nottingham. Yeah, that horrendous nottingham attack. And these two mothers have given out their first interview and they just said that theyve lost total faith in the Justice System because the man who killed them, Valdo Calocane he didnt actually have to face a murder trial, due to him playing , trial, due to him playing, playing that he had severe Mental Health and that he had paranoid schizophrenia. And where theyre saying , actually, where theyre saying, actually, the evidence showed that he did have moments of lucidity to plan this attack. He was off his medication. But then also medication. But then also theyre questioning the police and their investigation in this. You know, they had a Whatsapp Group where they were sharing these awful remarks about their childrens. What is that, stab wounds . And you just think , you wounds . And you just think, you know, number one, no parent should ever have to lose their child in this way. But if it does happen, you want to think that the police are on your side and would show you some respect and would show you some respect and it questions about and then it questions about these kind cases because you these kind of cases because you see time again when see it time and time again when these happen. Then these attacks happen. And then these attacks happen. And then the the criminal will the person the criminal will then plea Mental Health and they wont have to stand trial. And, you know, a its really you know, its a its a really black and white area. But i do think it needs to be looked at. Well, the thing about this case, i im from nottingham, the i mean, im from nottingham, the third was happened on third killing was happened on the where i grew up. The road behind where i grew up. Right. This really, really moved the city. Were there that day, you were there that day, werent you . Up there that day. Well, go up there that day. Well, go up there that day. Of took the a friend of mine took the footage of being footage of calocane being arrested, it on gb arrested, and we showed it on gb news. Got very emotional bonds. We had coverage bonds. We had that. Yeah, thanks to your hard work. Thank you. And barnabys mother in particular has been extraordinary throughout this. The victim impact statement she gave when the trial came to the true justice was not served. Today, weve been let down by multiple agencies. We were multiple agencies. We were presented with a fait accompli to we to accept manslaughter. We trusted in our system foolishly, as it turns it was as it turns out, it was premeditated. He knew it was premeditated. He knew it was wrong, but he did it anyway. This has been a trial by doctors, an incredibly moving situation , and now theyre situation, and now theyre saying they have no faith in the system. They every right to system. They have every right to have. Of course they do. Have. No, of course they do. Mean, there was cctv i mean, yeah, there was cctv footage around footage of him hanging around for time. Wasnt for a very long time. It wasnt sort on an absolute sort of done on an absolute impulse, was it . There was lot impulse, was it . There was a lot of of stalking going on, of kind of stalking going on, but whatsapp but its the Whatsapp Group messages what is going messages for me. What is going on, where Police Officers are taking photographs of crime scenes, are sending messages now , ive worked in newsrooms for a very long time and there is a black humour that you can kind of adopt in a newsroom situation where people kind of, you know, can make jokes about things sometimes just to get it, because you do have a lot of material coming through. And there is kind culture there is that kind of culture i have, but but there are moments where Something Like, im just thinking, top of my thinking, back off the top of my head Something Like the james head to Something Like the james bulger newsroom goes bulger case, your newsroom goes silent. Yes. Everybody is choked up. You know, i when you get to up. You know, i when you get to a point where people are decent sized so much, which is what we seem to be seeing with the police force, i cant understand where thats coming from, why those people are not suitable to be Police Officers. And if the family have come across Something Like that, how you would cope with that and of course, youre not going to have faith in those people or in the system when thats going on. Its disgrace and we its an absolute disgrace and we need able stamp that need to be able to stamp that out, to retrain and out, and we need to retrain and make. I mean, i cant understand you. First you have to explain you. First you have to explain to somebody that thats not not suitable. Itsjust to somebody that thats not not suitable. Its just ridiculous. Theres extraordinary detail in you know, because in this case, you know, because hes hospital and not in hes in a hospital and not in prison. Yeah, he can claim benefits. Claims benefits benefits. He claims benefits while nick, he gets while hes in nick, he gets paid pocket money by taxpayers and it will already cost a huge amount of money. And these two mothers also say that cps didnt say that that the cps didnt they werent honest with them. Yeah. They they let them think naturally and assume, i suppose, that he would be charged with murder. Too difficult a conversation to have. Was he was not charged with murder. What i find extraordinary is the other people who he to kill, you people who he tried to kill, you know, ramming them. But he know, by by ramming them. But he didnt kill them. He was charged with attempted murder for them. But the people he actually did murder for. Yeah. He was. Yeah. How whats the reasoning . Is how whats the reasoning . Is it an easy win . Is it an easier one to get across the line . I just i dont understand it, but it needs serious investigation. Serious investigation. Will he be detained in so will he be detained in this for so this hospital for life . So so theyre looking at it again now. Want to reassess again now. They want to reassess the if hes proven, if the fact that if hes proven, if he does something in he does something wrong in a hospital environment, could he be put into a traditional prison . The prison . But the fact of the matter is cats out of the matter is the cats out of the bag he escapes justice in bag now. He escapes justice in the eyes of the families and the eyes of victims. And it eyes of the victims. And it leaves a bitter taste in the mouth that we have a Justice System which actually seems to favour the aggressors and not those whove been oppressed. But all power to those mothers who being able to just kind of do what theyre doing. Is astonishing. And they it is astonishing. And they deserve credit. It is astonishing. And they deswheres credit. It is astonishing. And they deswheres c|home . Im just wheres the home . Im just trying our home secretary trying whos our home secretary at it. At the moment, is it. Its cleverly. Well, its cleverly. Cleverly. Yeah. Right. Is in this. Right. Where is he in this. Right. Where is he in this. Isnt he storming in then why isnt he storming in and somethings got be and saying somethings got to be done you know, done now . Maybe you know, nullify the trial, have another trial , make nullify the trial, have another trial, make it a murder trial. Do something decisive instead of dhhenng do something decisive instead of dithering on the sidelines because they dont want to be seen. That the politicians have primacy of law. Thats why. Home secretary thats why the home secretary is and occasionally in is there. And occasionally in the secretaries have. The past, home secretaries have. Steer, you . You need a steer, dont you . You steer things are you need a steer when things are so obviously everyones so good. So obviously everyones scared of saying the wrong thing all and somebody needs all the time and somebody needs to stand. Also it makes a to take a stand. Also it makes a mockery do have mockery of people who do have Mental Health. This is why such a yes, this is why its such a sensitive topic, there sensitive topic, because there are whove got paranoid are people whove got paranoid schizophrenia havent killed schizophrenia who havent killed anyone. Someone like him anyone. So if someone like him says hes got it, how far can you really push the boat . And theres clear evidence that travelled to the that he travelled to london the day , and went to day before, and he went to a known gangsters at a drug known gangsters house at a drug party. So heres a guy that seems to have premeditated. Seems to have premeditated. Clearly, thats what the parents believe. He was. He was out there taking drugs at parties, and wasnt premeditated. And yet it wasnt premeditated. So many questions. But youve got to salute the families for fighting on and on and on. Sue. Another story, thats a huge dividing point. And that is people taking elective operations in private hospitals, particularly since lockdowns. Whats the story . Whats the story . Yeah. So apparently its been its increased quite a lot. So in 2023, 10 of elective procedures such as hip replacements were going out to private operators. And its kind of shot up to almost 50 since before covid, according to the independent Healthcare Providers network. Just to make this clear, the nhs is paying us for private operations. That is whats happening in private hospitals is whats thats now gone up to Something Like 50. Yeah. So theres, you know, theres of statistics , but theres reams of statistics, but it has increased. And then theres things like in theres other things like in birmingham and also surrey, theres actually partnerships being where theyre building new facilities now that are kind of bridging. So that you can use both facilities. Im kind of conflicted on this in a way, because obviously we dont want anything money than anything costing more money than it to in the nhs it needs to in the nhs currently, because thats not a good thing. All money needs to good thing. All money needs to be of very, very be kind of spent very, very wisely. But i do think this is the future how we blend the the future of how we blend the nhs and also those those private setups and take the burden off. The one thing to kind of note, though, is that the note of caution , safety risks, according caution, safety risks, according to the director of health and pubuc to the director of health and Public Interest think tank, has brought this up. But Public Interest think tank, has brought this up. But i think it is a fair point that if you do have an elective, any kind of elective surgery, anything goes wrong. Are going wrong. Where are they going to send you the nhs . Send you . The nhs . Because thats mean, remember thats where i mean, i remember asking was pregnant asking when i was pregnant going, know, should i going, you know, should i go private my baby . I asked private to have my baby . I asked that question, i didnt, i had it the hospital they it in the nhs hospital and they went, can if you want, went, well, you can if you want, but anything goes wrong but if anything goes wrong you need anything need an incubator or anything goes wrong with you. Youre only going the going to end up in the nhs anyway. I was oh yeah, anyway. And i was like, oh yeah, of course so. And yeah, it of course i am. So. And yeah, it was a thought. Was just a thought. For that. Thank god for that. Thank god for that. And thank for that. Yeah. And thank god for that. Yeah, so you go i yeah, exactly. So if you go i had somebody, a friend of mine yeah, exactly. So if you go i had an nebody, a friend of mine yeah, exactly. So if you go i had an operation friend of mine yeah, exactly. So if you go i had an operation and|d of mine yeah, exactly. So if you go i had an operation and they mine had an operation and they unfortunately perforated her bowel during the procedure. And where nhs where did she end up in the nhs because the because thats where all the emergency so yeah, so Emergency Care is, so yeah, so elective surgery. But i think a judicial use of it to, to is a way forward. It just needs to be donein way forward. It just needs to be done in as cost effectively as possible, which. Quick quick quick quick. 40s steph are meghan. Of course now shes International Womens day yesterday she used it to voice about the hateful Cyber Bullying she experienced while she was pregnant with archie and lilibet. And im not surprised, to be honest, because , you know, to be honest, because, you know, meghan has been one of the most talked about women on the planet. And, you know, she divides but, i think divides opinion. But, i think its quite interesting that shes actually been actually going through such comments and taking on, most taking it on, because most people know if you want to protect your Mental Health, engage do go on engage with it. Do not go on social media about this later because im absolutely because i think im absolutely fascinated by that. She be engaging with should she be engaging with social has to social media . 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Yes, another saturday, another large pro palestine march here in london and in glasgow. Ill bring you more shortly and throughout the day. Live on gb news. And dont forget catherine has been on those marches since the very start. An absolute trouper. And this comes as the head Foreign Affairs head of the Foreign Affairs committee is committee claims israel is blocking aid getting into gaza as humanitarian crisis in as the humanitarian crisis in the region deepens in other news, meghan has spoken out about the social media abuse that she received during her pregnancies and the princess of wales is uncle has said that harry and meghan should be stripped of their titles, and us President Joe Biden and donald trump are set to hold duelling rallies in georgia over the weekend, hopefully without pistols, and well be looking ahead to that clash. Ahead to that clash. The government is going to announce that criminals could be released from prison a month early to tackle the overcrowding crisis in jails, but could that lead to more disorder on our streets and media mogul Rupert Murdoch gets engaged again at the grand old age of 92. But how old is too old to get married . Married . Good morning. Its perhaps the biggest game in world football. Liverpool host Manchester City at anfield tomorrow. Both managers have been speaking ahead of that one. Well also look ahead to england v ireland in six nations at v ireland in the six nations at twickenham, the nigh twickenham, and the end is nigh for in the cricket on for england in the cricket on day of fifth test in day three of the fifth test in india. India. If youve got outdoor plans this its not the best this weekend, its not the best weather. There will be rain and showers around, but not everywhere. Will be wet all the everywhere. Will be wet all the time. Find the full details in the coming up soon. The forecast coming up soon. Good to with well its good to be with you. Diamond and im you. Im anne diamond and im not stephen dixon. Im Martin Daubney and this is breakfast on gb news. We dont know who we are anymore. Actually, its interesting , we were talking interesting, we were talking earlier, about an hour ago about the fact that Rupert Murdoch is getting engaged. Hes 92, if this one, the last one, the last engagement fell through after a couple of months. But this one, if it goes through to marriage, will be his sixth, which is interesting. Hes 92. I think shes Something Like 65. Yeah. Spring chicken in comparison. Yeah but we were asking, you know, isnt i mean, im not a great lover of Rupert Murdoch , as most lover of Rupert Murdoch, as most people know, but i do defend his right to find love at whatever age. Isnt it better than going age. Isnt it better than going into old age lonely . I mean, im not saying that everybody on their own is lonely. Some people their own is lonely. Some people like being on their own, but rather than lonely , isnt rather than being lonely, isnt it nicer to just seek a bit of romance . Yeah. There is that old yeah. And there is that old chestnut. Course. We chestnut. Of course. We mentioned last what mentioned in the last hour what attracted to attracted you to multi millionaire, Rupert Murdoch . That might be a bit murdoch . That might be a bit harsh, but hes obviously hes got a taste for it. Harsh, but hes obviously hes got a taste for it. He likes being with somebody. To have a beautiful he likes to have a beautiful woman think woman on his arm. I think theres no about and theres no doubt about that. And hes man. Hell know hes clever, man. Hell know that his amazing that part of his amazing attraction he is very attraction is that he is very wealthy, but im sure he has very sensible prenups on all of his later marriages, his kids got married in 1957. Thats how long hes been at the marriage game, isnt it, and so we were asking you, i mean, has it ever happenedin asking you, i mean, has it ever happened in your family, finding love later in life or maybe wishing you had . Paul says. Wishing you had . Paul says. Morning, paul. When i was 22, i was in a relationship with a woman who was 50. It was quite an age difference. We stayed together for five years and weve stayed good friends ever since. She ended the relationship, saying that i should find someone to have a family with, sadly i never did, are still plucks the are obviously still plucks the heartstrings this day. Paul keith adds this keith says janet, the love of my life passed away after 52 years of marriage, age 76. I was then 74 and im now 81. I could not bear the thought of being with anyone else in marriage or not. Keith, thats so sweet. It is. Its lovely. But as i say, isnt it better . Maybe if thats the way you want to do things to seek love, even in very much later life. Better than feeling lonely. Id love to than feeling lonely. Id love to know if its ever happened to you and your family. Know if its ever happened to you and your family. Do get in you and your family. Do get in touch and stop being unkind about meghan. I cant believe im defending meghan, but were talking. Been talking talking. Shes been talking yesterday on International Womens about fact that womens day about the fact that she trolled so badly on she was trolled so badly on social particularly social media, particularly dunng social media, particularly during her pregnancies. Now, obviously on the one hand, you might say she shouldnt have engaged with that sort of nonsense. On the other hand, why nonsense. On the other hand, why would we want be quite so would we want to be quite so unkind . Why does social media unkind . Why does social media turn horrors . Turn us into horrors . Its interesting how on International Womens day it came of the abuse came out that most of the abuse she from other women, she got was from other women, which puts the bed. The which kind of puts the bed. The fact that its all sexiest men, at least, is that the take from it, women can be hard on it, women can be very hard on other women. It can but stop yeah, it can be. But stop doing think. Why not . Doing it, i think. Why not . Anyway, talk about the big anyway, lets talk about the big issue the day. Thats the issue of the day. And thats the pro palestinian demonstrators , pro palestinian demonstrators, which are to go ahead which are going to go ahead today First Time Since today for the First Time Since the man advises the the man who advises the government Counter Terrorism government on Counter Terrorism actually said that certain parts of london, in fact, he did say london, just london, had become a no zone for jewish london, just london, had become a no zone forjewish people. Yeah. And this protest follows accusations by the chair of the Foreign Select Committee Foreign Affairs select committee that blocking aid into gaza. And that comes as the protest group Palestine Action sprayed and slashed an historic painting of lord balfour at the university of cambridge. University of cambridge. And the group claims the piece symbolised the bloodshed of the Palestinian People since the Balfour Declaration in 1917. Well, our Political Correspondent Katherine Forster has been following the protests. As you know , there are forces as you know, there are forces here at home trying to tear us apart to advance a divisive, hateful ideological agenda. Dont let the extremists huack dont let the extremists hijack your marches. That was the Prime Ministers appeal last week. Today, another pro palestine march, hundreds of thousands marching against a war 2000 miles away in gaza , with 2000 miles away in gaza, with over a thousand Police Officers on duty. The governments on duty. The governments counter extremism tsar warns london is becoming a no go area for jews , saying the uk has a forjews, saying the uk has a permissive environment for radicalisation. Open since radicalisation. Open since october the 7th has been dozens of marches across the uk , mostly of marches across the uk, mostly pro palestine, some pro israel. Pro palestine, some pro israel. Incidents of anti semitism and anti Muslim Hatred have surged. Anti Muslim Hatred have surged. Many are marching simply against the horrors unfolding in gaza. I feel helpless, i cant sleep at night. Im watching this genocide and i will do everything i can in my power to march against it. These marches have been peaceful. Theyve been full of dogs and children and the people of london. Ive been. Im a londoner. Ive been living here and here all my life, and im actually the people actually proud of the people in london actually proud of the people in lon but everyone actually proud of the people in lonbut everyone is so but not everyone is so amenable. Dozens have been arrested and policing the protest has cost some £25 million. By the end of last yean million. By the end of last year, the police are under pressure to get tougher. You can freely criticise the actions of this government or indeed any government. You indeed any government. You cannot use that as an excuse to call for the eradication of a state, or any kind of hatred or anti semitism. This week ive met with senior Police Officers and made clear it is the publics expectation that they will not merely manage these protests, but police them. And i protests, but police them. And i say this to the police we will back you when you take action, but without changes to legislation in gb news understands policing. At todays march will be no different to before and met police chief sir mark rowley. Hes standing his ground. Were obviously operating in a very challenging political environment where tensions remain high. We have to police the law as it is, not as others would wish it to be. Mayor of london sadiq khan is unimpressed. The police have operational independence. I think its independence. I think its really unfortunate when politicians give the impression they can tell the police what to do. Look, if the Prime Minister is telling the police today, which allow, which which marches to allow, which marches , whats to stop marches to ban, whats to stop him tomorrow, telling the police to to arrest , who to charge, to who to arrest, who to charge, who to prosecute. We live who to prosecute. We dont live in we dont live in in north korea. We dont live in russia, we live in that russia, we live in the uk. That being said , id encourage being said, id encourage anybody getting a protest to please cognisant of the fact please be cognisant of the fact that you can say things that cause real concern, real fear. So another saturday, another march, until theres a genuine, lasting ceasefire in gaza, there will be more. Katherine forster. Gb news. And im delighted to be joined by Katherine Forster in the studio. Now, catherine, the studio. Now, catherine, youve been on these marches since beginning. In since the very beginning. In fact, heckled and fact, youve been heckled and got of stick on got quite a bit of stick on those theyve been those marches. Theyve been hugely divisive and yet they still yes still rumble on. Yes yeah they do. And here we go again. The first one was the saturday following those atrocities on october the 7th. It was huge. Ive been to many, it was huge. Ive been to many, many since. Yes we had a run in with protesters. The police are still pursuing that. Im waiting to hear if theyre going to be, charged. But, you know, ultimate only until there is a ceasefire in gaza. The figures from the Hamas Run Health Ministry are over 30,000 people died in gaza. Over 30,000 people died in gaza. I really think unless the government decides to ban protests, which is not going to happen, lets face it, these scenes are going to be replicated week after week, after week. Now, you could say its not achieving anything. And its not achieving anything. And certainly Benjamin Netanyahu i dont think is really going to be heavily influenced by somebody slashing a painting or what people are chanting on the streets of london, but many people feel the need to make their voices heard. And when you their voices heard. And when you see whats happening in gaza, you can understand it. But i have to say, for the Jewish Community, its very, very difficult because although that lady with the dog, theres many people like that. Theres also people like that. Theres also plenty of people in the crowds chanting that from the river to the sea, which jewish people feel is anti semitic, calling for the eradication of israel. They feel you can understand now why many jewish people simply would not venture into Central London or indeed potentially glasgow. Theres protests going on today , and thats a really on today, and thats a really very sad state of affairs, that this is where we are with no prospect. I have to say, despite rishi sunaks tough words of real change, because the police are saying we are doing what we can and this is the law as it stands and so and so we have this week after week and i cant see those protesters being satisfied. Even if there were some sort , even if there were some sort, some sort of ceasefire. Agreed. Because it wont be the sort of ceasefire they want to see. Well, i mean, any ceasefire would be welcome at the moment, wouldnt it . There was talk a couple of weeks ago. Well, i dont the if killing dont know if the if the killing stops, the i mean people are stops, if the i mean people are starving now aid is not getting in. I understand why people are protesting, but some of the things that the police say you might be arrested covering your face, etc. Anti semitic slogans , face, etc. Anti semitic slogans, banners, theres been placards , banners, theres been placards, theres been things that people have worn that have led to arrests. But theres been dozens of arrests. Theres been, of arrests. Theres only been, i think, of december, think, at the end of december, there was only about 36 people had been charged from all of these marches. And of course, these marches. And of course, what the government are saying, sorry, what the are sorry, what the police are saying chanting the saying is chanting from the river is not river to the sea is not sufficient to be arrested. Okay. Okay. Okay. Well, catherine forbes, i know youre going out again on the march today , arent you . The march today, arent you . Make sure you stay safe out there and discuss this there and to discuss this further, were now joined in the studio former special studio by the former special adviser gove, charlie studio by the former special adviser and gove, charlie studio by the former special adviser and also gove, charlie studio by the former special adviser and also politicatharlie rowley, and also political author owen bennett, i believe, joins us down the line. Lets joins us down the line. Lets start with you, charlie. They roll on. Rishi sunak gave an address outside downing street, an emergency address imploring the police to take firmer action and they would back them up. But sir mark rowley has said no, hes not interested in doing that. Were doing it our way and round and round we go. We have this impasse where people are now starting to feel that the protesters are being treated with kid gloves and theyre becoming. And jewish becoming emboldened. And jewish people certainly are feeling pretty streets of london. And well just have to wait and see what happens later on today the police today to see whether the police do action those who do take action against those who are things like jihad do take action against those who are there hings like jihad do take action against those who are there protests;e jihad do take action against those who are there protests that ad do take action against those who are there protests that are, or were there protests that are, are taking that exceed the are taking place that exceed the peaceful nature that they should be, and on the back of what the Prime Minister said last week. But youre absolutely right. There will be a lot of tension today. There will be lots of people still part the people who still part of the Jewish Community that Jewish Community feel that they cannot london cannot come into Central London because protests. Because of these protests. I think i read somewhere last night is a counter night that there is a counter protest also today well, so protest also today as well, so that more difficult that will be even more difficult for the police to manage. But everybody that is on a protest today has to demonstrate restraint. I today has to demonstrate restraint. I think ensuring that you can have a peaceful protest, you can have a peaceful protest, you get your message across, but you get your message across, but you are not obviously there to incite hate, to chant, hate speech or to do anything other than protest for what we all want to see. Which catherine was saying earlier on, is the peace brought in in gaza. Well lets go to owen bennett now. Morning, owen. I mean, what do you see as i mean, could there ever be any likely and soon, sort of resolution to this on the streets of london or glasgow or anywhere . Well, i think, you know, this is obviously in the hands of whats happening overseas, whats happening overseas, whats happening overseas, whats happening in gaza with israel. Think if there was a israel. I think if there was a ceasefire, then maybe some of the energy would be the kind of energy would be drawn of it. But i think drawn out of it. But i think that the point here is that the general point here is that the general point here is that and i think, you know, the lady in clip with the dog lady in your clip with the dog was referred to by catherine. You was hes you know, she was saying hes effectively protest effectively a peaceful protest and shes the people. And shes proud of the people. But whos ever been on but anyone whos ever been on any marches, whether any of these marches, whether its, ceasefire its, calling for a ceasefire in gaza, its against gaza, whether its against tuition fees, whether its against, austerity , there is against, austerity, there is always a cohort, there is always always a cohort, there is always a band of people there who just kind of just want to cause a bit of a ruckus. They kind of just anti establishment. Theyre slightly their slightly anarchistic in their views. And sometimes these marches can be co opted by that. Sometimes you find that the tail does wag the dog in these situations, and its how the police deal with those people who do cross over the line. I think , thats certainly what think, thats certainly what rishi sunak was, was referring to that more needs to be done and kind of that end. So its not 90 of people who do it not the 90 of people who do it peacefully. Its the 5 to 10 who because they are who go out because they are looking trouble. Looking for trouble. Can i ask you, owen . Ive been these marches. The been on these marches. The police stand and watch. Theyve got removing got no interest in removing those projectors that are putting images on big ben. Theyve interest in theyve got no interest in arresting with balaclavas theyve got no interest in awhichg with balaclavas theyve got no interest in awhichg now with balaclavas theyve got no interest in awhichg now outlawed. Aclavas theyve got no interest in awhichg now outlawed. Theyas , which is now outlawed. They dont on that dont seem to care on that basis, owen, on the basis that we arrests, we keep we keep seeing arrests, we keep seeing hate crimes. Is it time to these marches in uk to ban these marches in the uk as germany and as they have done in germany and france . France . I think it would be very difficult to ban them because i think in this country we do have this, history of protest, you know, to the million know, think back to the Million People marching iraq, which people marching for iraq, which was, 20 ago now. Was, you know, 20 years ago now. I itd be very difficult i think itd be very difficult to and i think to ban them. And i think it would be completely counter effective. Get effective. And i think youd get people coming perhaps, people coming out who perhaps, you as you know, perhaps werent as interested invested in the, interested or invested in the, interested or invested in the, in the gaza issue, but they might about the right to might care about the right to protest. So it actually protest. So it could actually exacerbate situation. Exacerbate the situation. Then again, charlie, youre desperate to get back in on this one. Well, i just think its, absolutely right to demonstrate free speech in this country. Thats one of our underpinning, parts of our democracy, something have in something that you dont have in any other of the world, but any other part of the world, but you a of you dont have a sense of entitlement. You just entitlement. You cannot just turn preach whatever it turn up and preach whatever it is cannot just is you want. You cannot just turn university and start turn up to university and start slashing you cannot slashing paintings. You cannot just turn up to, decry our pubuc just turn up to, decry our public buildings to deface or to do whatever it is that you seek to cause destruction and harm to ordinary working peoples lives, ordinary working peoples lives, or a Jewish Community or or to put a Jewish Community or any community that any other community for that matter, way or where matter, in harms way or where youre stoking tensions. So, absolutely, right to absolutely, we have a right to free this country. We free speech in this country. We have a right protest. But if have a right to protest. But if you with the ambition you turn up with the ambition and just fuel and the desire just to fuel the debate to fuel, the fear amongst communities , then that is communities, then that is something that should not be taking place on the streets of london or anywhere in the uk. And police should take a and the police should take a tougher and the police should take a tou great great debate. Great stuff, great debate. And course, well have much and of course, well have much more throughout the more on that throughout the show. Us. Show. Thanks forjoining us. Charlie bennett and Charlie Rowley owen bennett and of course Katherine Forster. Right. Its 7 17. It was International Womens day yesterday and last night the duchess of sussex , meghan joined duchess of sussex, meghan joined a Panel Discussion on womens representation in entertainment and the media. Yeah, Meghan Markle told the panel she was cyberbullied while pregnant with archie and lilibet. So we wondered a bit earlier on in the program what would be the thoughts of grant harrold, the thoughts of grant harrold, the former royal butler . This is what he said. What he said. Good morning and good morning, martin. Do you know this makes me think i cant help wondering, if Princess Diana had been around in this sort of social media age , how she would have coped. Thats extraordinary. I thats extraordinary. I honestly was thinking the exact same thing when i watched that clip , because i was same thing when i watched that clip, because i was thinking back then she would have obviously got if she was on social media, she would have got the positive and im sure the negative. And would negative. And again, how would she anyone cope . You she how does anyone cope . You know, millions of people sadly she how does anyone cope . You knothisiillions of people sadly she how does anyone cope . You knothis online of people sadly she how does anyone cope . You knothis online bullying. E sadly she how does anyone cope . You knothis online bullying. Isadly get this online bullying. I mean, as you know, i do a lot on social media and sometimes i get attacked. So it happens all the time. Agree with what time. But i also agree with what you and its interesting you said, and its interesting that reading that she was reading and engaging i think a lot engaging because i think a lot of members of the royal family do social media, do not go on social media, social that very social media for that very reason. So they dont see the all negative all these kind of negative comments because there is positive negative. Can i ask you, grant, its interesting it came out that most the abuse not only most of the abuse not only happened she was pregnant, happened while she was pregnant, but from other but most abuse was from other women , which thought quite women, which i thought was quite telling womens telling on International Womens day. This day. But do you think this permanently the position permanently taken the position of me, im the of woe betide me, im the victim. My life is so difficult is the best strategy if shes looking to get a new pr guru to help her get more public sympathy, do people really want this pearl clutching permanently offended person in their lives, or do they rather want a strong , or do they rather want a strong, independent princess who rises aboveit independent princess who rises above it . Above it . I think this is the thing, isnt it . You know, the public. This is just my feeling, from what i can see is i dont think people really like it. I think, you know, whether, as you said, people or hate her. You people like or hate her. You know, everyones their know, that everyones got their own opinion, which is a fantastic. But, you know, fantastic. But, you know, sometimes think maybe sometimes you think maybe you should above and should be rising above it and can i if you look at the can i say, if you look at the catherine, princess catherine, the princess of wales, we agree that wales, i think we all agree that once again, she never puts a foot wrong. Doesnt mean to foot wrong. It doesnt mean to say that shes not on social media. I honestly dont know. She social media, she could be on social media, but again, she doesnt let you know. Doesnt kind know. She doesnt kind of comment she doesnt know. She doesnt kind of comrof nt she doesnt know. She doesnt kind of comrof talk she doesnt know. She doesnt kind of comrof talk about she doesnt know. She doesnt kind of comrof talk about it. |e doesnt know. She doesnt kind of comrof talk about it. And esnt know. She doesnt kind of comrof talk about it. And isnt kind of talk about it. And i think this thing, you think this is the thing, you know, is know, that again, this is why i think late and the think the late queen and the king engage this kind king dont engage in this kind of they dont want of thing because they dont want to in and to get involved in it. And thats a thing thats probably not a bad thing to do. But also they are obviously no longer obviously they are no longer working royal working members. The royal family, young family, but they are young royals. Media is royals. And social media is a big forward. Big part of going forward. And i noficed big part of going forward. And i noticed the family, noticed that the royal family, they use social media a lot they do use social media a lot to promote what goes on behind the is fantastic. The scenes, which is fantastic. It an insight into it gives people an insight into a people with a world that only people with myself got really at myself have got to really see at one time. It , it bites one time. It, it bites you one time. It , it bites you back, yes, it, it bites you back, doesnt it . Its interesting that actually even in kensington palace, i think the staff there have been so upset by some of the terrible things that have been said, for instance, about princess qatar sin and about what may be ailing her, that they actually put out a statement saying enough, can you just stop it, stop all this speculation . So even if princess catherine herself isnt reading it, her staff are, and its clearly getting to them and her friends, you know, her friends , friends, you know, her friends, her parents, her sister, her brother, because her brother obviously does social media, you know, theyll be aware of it. And im sure theyre kind of saying to her, unhappy about it. And whatevers and do you know, whatevers going the last going on, you know, the last thing to be thinking thing she needs to be thinking about whats going on about is, is whats going on social do you know, about is, is whats going on sociother do you know, about is, is whats going on sociother thing do you know, about is, is whats going on sociother thing is, do you know, about is, is whats going on sociother thing is, io you know, about is, is whats going on sociother thing is, i rememberv, the other thing is, i remember when worked them, she was when i worked for them, she was always william, they always very. And william, they loved , quite loved the privacy, quite rightly. Something rightly. And its something that theyve on as theyve tried to hold on to as long they can. But now i see long as they can. But now i see they the prince of wales. We they are the prince of wales. We are interested, the public want to think its to know, and i dont think its so wanting know. Well, i so much wanting to know. Well, i suppose want know suppose they do want to know a lot goes the lot what goes on behind the scenes, i they just scenes, but i think they just want sure that shes want to make sure that shes okay. I theres very okay. And i think theres a very fine line between giving us that information and kind of going too far that it can invade in the think the problem. And thanks there to grant harold, is a former royal harold, who is a former royal butler, now lives himself at highgrove , its fascinating highgrove, its fascinating actually thinking of how Princess Diana would have coped with social media because she would have engaged with it as well. She really would have, and well. She really would have, and she would have got very, very upset at the good bad things upset at the good and bad things i were said about i think, that were said about her. How do you feel about her. So how do you feel about meghan and the fact that clearly, while she was pregnant, she social probably she was on social media probably reading everything that was said about her getting and about her and getting more and more because people have more upset because people have been very unkind and i dont know felt need to know why they felt the need to be quite vicious. Be quite so vicious. Well, they yeah, well, i think they believe that, i think it was the accusations of racism that tipped people over the edge because, on that day, because, you know, on that day, millions of brits, millions and millions of brits, you know, totally and utterly welcomed markle into welcomed Meghan Markle into britain, into the royal family. They thought of her as one of our own. There was not a scintilla of that. And then when it came out afterwards about the racism, people just racism, i think people just thought, know what . This thought, do you know what . This is to bear . Thought, do you know what . This is i to bear . Thought, do you know what . This is i also bear . Thought, do you know what . This is i also think . Thought, do you know what . This is i also think that her but i also think that her perception of the way she was received in, in britain is totally coloured by, her engagement with social media. Yeah. Because she says how terribly unkind the press were. And i think in some instances maybe they were, but the people who were really unkind to her were the people she was talking about last night, were the people she was talking about last night , the people who about last night, the people who say vile and vicious on say vile and vicious things on social because they can. Social media because they can. And what was interesting about that, she talking about that, she was talking about that, she was talking about the fact the most about the fact she was the most trolled in the world in trolled person in the world in 2019, she was her most 2019, and she was her most trolled when was pregnant, trolled when she was pregnant, and she the most trolling and she got the most trolling from , which i thought was fascinating. She shouldnt have engaged with it. Of course, a lot of people, thank you very much for getting are the getting in touch, are making the point President Trump point that if President Trump gets harry may well find gets in. Harry may well find himself deported back to britain. So they have to make a life for themselves. Back in britain. Britain. And weve got loads of emails on that. Well read a few of them out later shall we them out later on, shall we catch the weather at catch up with the weather at 723 . 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Now, the justice secretary, alex chalk, is expected to announce that prisoners could be freed up to 35 days early to tackle overcrowding in our jails. Well, that could include as many as 40,000 inmates and those eligible for release would include apparently violent offenders and burglars. Great. Great. Well, joining us now to discuss this is the former police officer, oliver laurence, who thinks we shouldnt release prisoners early. Welcome to the show. Oliver. Always a pleasure. So this is a proposal thats being mooted to tackle what is called acute and exceptional demand. Basically, jails are too packed and therefore we need to let cons out early. Whats the downside . Downside . Well, theres a huge downside. Good morning martin. Good morning. And you know the party of law and order strike again. With this crazy again. You know with this crazy announcement that were going to be dangerous be releasing these dangerous offenders, offenders that have committed burglary offences, serious theft offences and fraud offences to 35 days earlier offences up to 35 days earlier than theyre supposed to. You know, is supposed to be a know, prison is supposed to be a deterrent, but what deterrent is there youre going to be there if youre going to be released lot earlier than what released a lot earlier than what your i your sentence permits . And i think is think what this is just demonstrating to public demonstrating to the public is the of investment by the the lack of investment by the government over the past 14 years whove just had a light bulb and realised that bulb moment and realised that they need to heavily in they need to invest heavily in our capacity , which at our prison capacity, which at the moment is bursting at the seams and really is going to place our communities in a far more vulnerable position , but more vulnerable position, but theres no doubt we do have an overcrowding problem , dont we . Overcrowding problem, dont we . So releasing somebody month so releasing somebody a month early , is that really going to early, is that really going to make much of a difference to them . Just what, 30 odd them . Surely. Just what, 30 odd days going days isnt going to make a difference to what . So to the time theyve already served . Time theyve already served . Well, the case i would make for this is the impact that some of these offences have on victims. Some the victims. You know, some of the if victim if youre the victim of a burglary offence, those scars stay you months stay with you for many months and to from. And many years to recover from. And i would suspect the public would a view people would have a view that people that these horrendous that commit these horrendous offences spend the offences need to spend the entirety sentence in entirety of their sentence in custody so they understand the ramifications their actions ramifications of their actions have serious consequences. By doing what were showing doing this, what were showing to people again is that were soft law and order and were soft on law and order and were soft on law and order and were soft crime and allowing these soft on crime and allowing these people earlier. People to come out much earlier. And just the start and this is only just the start of situation. When we look and this is only just the start of the situation. When we look and this is only just the start of the significanchen we look and this is only just the start of the significant backlog look and this is only just the start of the significant backlog that at the significant backlog that we have within court we have within our court systems. This is just systems. I think this is just the first stage and probably what far more early what well see in far more early releases of other types of offences. Yeah. Course, oliver, and of course, oliver, dumping out of nick dumping these people out of nick early increased early will place, increased pressure on an already under strain probation service. So is the answer to build more prisons. The trouble is they come in about £140 million a pop i yeah, well, this has all come about because of a lack of inertia and resistance from the treasury and from Civil Servants inertia and resistance from the treinvestand from Civil Servants inertia and resistance from the treinvest overrom Civil Servants inertia and resistance from the treinvest over the Civil Servants inertia and resistance from the treinvest over the lastl servants inertia and resistance from the treinvest over the last ten, lants inertia and resistance from the treinvest over the last ten, 15|ts to invest over the last ten, 15 years in our prison population, in our Prison Services. And yes, they are expensive. And yes, there a investment. There is a need for investment. But when see the level of but when we see the level of crime committed on our crime being committed on our streets across the United Kingdom, when we see people coming country who we coming into this country who we have no idea who they those have no idea who they are, those people find their people eventually find their way, i have no doubt, some of them custody, which way, i have no doubt, some of th going custody, which way, i have no doubt, some of th going to custody, which way, i have no doubt, some of th going to put custody, which way, i have no doubt, some of th going to put chrobationich is going to put our probation services. You rightly say, services. You quite rightly say, martin, amount martin, under an immense amount of policing of pressure, our policing services in services are doing theirjobs in finding people , arresting them finding people, arresting them and them before and putting them before the courts. Our prison courts. We now need our Prison Services to step up and have the ability ensure that those ability to ensure that those punishments can be served out, and can have faith and the community can have faith in system and the support in the system and the support theyll it. Theyll get from it. There any category of is there any category of prisoner that might be suitable for that wouldnt for this and that wouldnt present an a danger to the public, its a very good question. And i you know, i think when you look at the range of different offences which are being talked about, i suppose the low level theft offences where necessarily where there may not necessarily be a direct victim involved, maybe a shop stealing from a shop , but all of those have an shop, but all of those have an impact communities. For impact on our communities. For me, is a broad brush issue me, this is a broad brush issue in terms anybody that commits in terms of anybody that commits enough crime where the punishment deserves in punishment deserves to be in custody. Where they custody. Thats where they should be until were able to rehabilitate them whatever rehabilitate them to whatever that looks like, to come back out a productive out and to be a productive member society. So out and to be a productive member society. So think member of society. So i think weve cautious with weve got to be cautious with that. There are that. But im sure there are some opportunities to divert people, juveniles people, particularly juveniles and younger people, away from the prison system. Great stuff. Thanks for okay. Great stuff. Thanks for joining us, oliver lawrence. Also, do excellent also, you do an excellent podcast and podcast called protect and serve. Checking out. Serve. Well worth checking out. Thanks for joining serve. Well worth checking out. Thanks forjoining us. Its an interesting point about the cost of prisons. £140 billion is a lot money. We dont have lot of money. We dont have a lot of money. We dont have a lot of money. If you think about it, about ten days it, thats only about ten days worth money we spend on worth of the money we spend on housing in hotels. Know weve got so many i know weve got so many insoluble problems going on at the moment who would be a politician. And yet people want to be people to prime people want to be Prime Minister, sport. Minister, still to come, sport. Aiden, what have you got for us . Theres plenty going on this week. And its billed as perhaps week. And its billed as perhaps the in world the biggest game in world football. Liverpool faced Manchester City at anfield tomorrow. Quite a title tomorrow. Its not quite a title decider, but it should go some way to telling us the destination of the premier league title, though arsenal are involved look involved as well. Well look ahead six nations, ahead to the six nations, england ireland england hosting ireland and england hosting ireland and england are really struggling in india. We should have result break. Welcome back. Youre watching and listening to breakfast this morning with anne and martin. Its 7. 39. Time for the sport. And aidan magee has joined us now. We covered the dust up in the desert earlier. Demolition, demolition, demolition in the desert . Thats right. Which is the boxing. Should we go straight into some football . Why not . Yeah, i mean, big Weekend Premier League action weekend of premier League Action and fixture. Were and the stellar fixture. Were kind at early, kind of looking at a day early, but its well looking but its well worth looking ahead v manchester ahead to. Liverpool v Manchester City because the two city at anfield because the two managers spoke yesterday. And although its not the top two in terms of this, is a title shootout because arsenal well and truly involved, theyve won the last seven matches of course, and they were looking imperious against against sheffield other Sheffield United the other night. Up night. They were falling up inside this inside 15 minutes. But this tomorrow arsenal playing tomorrow i mean arsenal playing today. They could go top before this game even happens tomorrow. This game even happens tomorrow. But the two big but this is still the two big sides in the title race sides involved in the title race in my view. Its also the eminent managers relationship or rivalry over the last seven eight years or so. And jurgen klopp has been talking about what possibly be his what could possibly be his last jewel against pep guardiola. And he press he was asked in the press conference whether they have a relationship up the relationship up off the pitch and was interesting, they and this was interesting, they said. Said in terms of said. And klopp said in terms of lunch dinners, never lunch or dinners, it never happened because we happened and thats because we have to decide who pays. But but is yeah, yeah, but but it is interesting to talk about that, that managerial, confrontation because klopp wants his hollywood ending. Hes bowing hollywood ending. Hes bowing out. He wants to bag all the trophies. Theres no way peps going to sit around and light his cigar for him. Certainly not. Certainly no certainly not. Certainly not. Look they city not. I mean look they city are going back back trebles going for a back to back trebles which has been done which has never been done before, the before, certainly within the context english games as context of the english games as it applies to europe. But liverpool an liverpool are going for an unprecedented quadruple. It wouldnt the champions wouldnt include the champions league, of course, but it could include the champions, the carabao last carabao cup, which they won last week. Could include the fa week. It could include the fa cup, it could include the premier the premier league and indeed the europa league, which liverpool have i think 2001. Have not won since i think 2001. So yeah, its all to play for. I dont think its the last time theyd have played one another. I think klopp just needs a break. I think come back break. I think he will come back to frontline football. To frontline domestic football. I hes a little bit too i think hes a little bit too young to bow out just yet, but nonetheless , know, is nonetheless, you know, this is this interesting because in this is interesting because in the last 30 matches, martin has always been the side that the sorry, its always been the home team that prevailed only twice as the away team actually won. So as i its all to play so as i say, its all to play for tomorrow. 62 points. Sit here on liverpool on 63. But as i say arsenal could be ahead if they beat brentford today at 530. Okay just very briefly then the rugby. Okay just very briefly then the yeah y. Okay just very briefly then the yeah indeed. Again ireland yeah indeed. Again ireland i think they should won the think they should have won the world cup before christmas. Huge opportunity missed for them. Theyve 11 grand slam theyve won 11 grand slam matches sorry six nations matches or sorry six nations matches or sorry six nations matches in a row. They could make it 12 today. I think that could be a record. Tend could be a record. But they tend to twickenham, to struggle at twickenham, england , ireland, ireland have england, ireland, ireland have said in the press conference beforehand omahony said beforehand Peter Omahony said were talking about a side that got the semi finals. They got to the semi finals. They did better world cup. Better than us in the world cup. But overwhelming but ireland, overwhelming favourites , scotland in favourites today, scotland in action as well, france action today as well, france tomorrow. So we should go. As tomorrow. So we should go. As i say, i think ireland are favourites for this for a reason and i did the really hard work beating france on Opening Weekend month and expect weekend a month ago and i expect them the job today them to complete the job today against them to complete the job today agaand hopefully well and hopefully next time well talk forest talk about Nottingham Forest joining us. Always a pleasure and do stick with us at 742, well take a quick break. Still to come, the world is going to watch the miss world pageant , watch the miss world pageant, but not britain. Why . Well find out couple of moments. Out in a couple of moments. Know that i welcome back. 745 is your time. Youre watching and listening to breakfast with martin and anne. And joining us to go through whats the news in whats making the news in the papers. Stephanie and papers. Stephanie takyi and susan lovely to susan holder. And its lovely to see again, right. Were see you again, right. Were kicking susan with, the kicking off susan with, the spread of ai in music. I bet you this is something that you talk about with your lovely husband. Yes, is. It has been yes, yes, it is. It has been a topic of conversation, by the way. Holder, he of slade way. Noddy holder, he of slade fame, no, i, of course, fame, where . No, i, of course, was involved in any of that. No artificial intelligence. Artificial intelligence. Or it could be now. Or it could be now. It could. Well, it could be now, and it will be and it could be in the future. I mean, i suppose, you know, you could have, somebody approximating slade music bringing slade music and bringing that out. That kind slade music and bringing that ouon that kind slade music and bringing that ouon cards that kind slade music and bringing that ouon cards and|at kind slade music and bringing that ouon cards and beingzind slade music and bringing that ouon cards and being done. Of on the cards and being done. And chambers , and this is why guy chambers, who is the songwriter known for working williams, working with robbie williams, has called it terrifying, for the really , because and the industry really, because and its actually saying that in future he thinks there will have to be records will have to be stamped is an all stamped with this is an all human record label so that, you know, no, i was involved that you actually are buying something that was a product of someones imagination, someones talent, someones and not talent, someones skill, and not something that was computer generated. And although theres lots of things that its great for, especially, i mean, in technical things, i mean been huge advances in recording, engineering and, and technical things. And my sons a recording engineer and works in 360 surround sound. Thats an amazing. I know, dont ask amazing. Wow i know, dont ask me, i dont understand it. But thats what he does. And all thats what he does. And all thatis thats what he does. And all that is great. Its kind of a new way of listening to music. Its immersive its kind of an immersive experience. Im not kind of experience. So im not kind of a luddhe experience. So im not kind of a luddite that but the luddite in that way, but at the same think want same time, i do think you want humanity be involved in a humanity to be involved in a creative process. I also cant, you know, back the in the day you know, back in the in the day where used watch where we used to watch tomorrows they tomorrows world, surely they told computers were told us that computers were going all the boring going to do all the boring things to be things and free us up to be creative. And as a writer, why is now flooded with al is amazon now flooded with al generated books . And i, you know , and its very hard to get your own work out there. Why are we not doing the look, making not doing the look, the making music, acting , music, making films, acting, writing, those are the things we should be doing, not letting it let the computers take over. Its interesting. Steph, if you go on to youtube, there are already astonishing kind of vocals of john lennon. Yes singing david bowie songs. Theres space oddity where lennon sings it, and it actually really does sound and look like him doing it. So its already happening. I guess big worry if youre guess the big worry if youre a recording artist is you. If you play recording artist is you. If you play someones into some play someones voice into some software , it emulates it. Then software, it emulates it. Then you anything you you can put anything out you want. Artist, they want. Without the artist, they lose lose lose all their rights and lose all money. All their money. This scary thing well, this is a scary thing that no limit to what that there is no limit to what i can do. As much as it sounds very like, ooh, i can hearjohn lennon you know , from lennon singing, you know, from years after passed away. Years after hes passed away. But its time for but now i think its time for Creative Industries now to really start looking at how theyre going to police ai. If youre a music artist, if youre a writer, you work in Film Industry you now need industry now, you now need to think your career think about your career long into future make sure into the future and make sure that protected. And were that it is protected. And were not having these conversations because think , oh, what because we still think, oh, what can i do . But clearly its showing. Can be a real big threat. You cant stop progress, though, in a way can you . But you but you must be able to actor. You cant to stop as an actor. You cant have taking your image have people taking your image and a that and putting you in a film that you you arent. Didnt do you you arent. You didnt do and paid for. And you werent paid for. That, tom hanks having said that, tom hanks spoke this. Yes he spoke out about this. Yes he did. Actually said, quite did. He actually said, i quite like idea of ai. Like the idea of an ai. Tom hanks acting ive died. Hanks acting after ive died. Yes. Thats just world yes. Well thats just world domination, though, isnt it . Just his he wants thats just his ego. He wants to going to still be to think hes going to still be making one can stop to think hes going to still be makin] one can stop to think hes going to still be makin 200 one can stop to think hes going to still be makin 200 years. One can stop to think hes going to still be makin 200 years. And an stop to think hes going to still be makin 200 years. And in| stop to think hes going to still be makin 200 years. And in atop to think hes going to still be makin 200 years. And in a way, him in 200 years. And in a way, maybe doesnt matter in 200 maybe it doesnt matter in 200 years but actually it years to him. But actually it is really that really important that that people given credit people are paid and given credit for what they do. And its not just taken away. Just taken away. Yes, i interviewed alex jones, just a while ago that the singer, do you remember the walking in the air chorister . And he has recorded walking in the air with himself, singing as an older person , singing an older person, singing alongside his chorister self and i mean, clearly thats just something your son would understand. Totally. Thats thats, thats music, manipulation. Yeah but like you, you know, thats wonderful, but theyre real voices. Theyre real voices. I mean, there was a lot. Yes, in both instances, there was a lot of fuss made about the latest came was a lot of fuss made about the latethat came was a lot of fuss made about the latethat john came was a lot of fuss made about the latethat john lennons|me out that took john lennons voice and cleaned it up a bit so they could use it. And there was talk about, oh, its , but it wasnt its nice, but it wasnt artificially lennon. Was artificially john lennon. It was originally john was originally john lennon was improved but improved and enhanced, but it was the real human. Was actually the real human. None of us have any problem. That it strays into that is when it strays into recreating things. You recreating things. And also, you know, be cheaper, know, it must be cheaper, mustnt youre not mustnt it . Because youre not paying mustnt it . Because youre not paying much cheaper paying people. Its much cheaper to computer do that to get a computer to do it. That doesnt mean thats way we doesnt mean thats the way we should go. Steph, move this steph, lets move on to this story. Really people story. This really got people going this story. This really got people going west this story. This really got people going west end this story. This really got people going west end theatre this is the west end theatre performance where only black people allowed the people are allowed in the audience. Its having another night. And ive been really thinking about this over the past, you know, two weeks since this story came and now its another came out and now its another western called which western play called blue, which is about the shooting of a black motorist in the us and its going to be at the seven Dials Playhouse in london. And they have decided that theyll have two blackout nights, which is going to be a majority of a black audience, because the producers are saying theyre trying to shift the narrative that only white people go to theatres. And for me, i think this is very divisive. I think it will set a deadly precedence because if the foot was on the other shoe and there was an all white night, it would be absolutely controversial. People would be saying its racism, and i think theyre kind of getting it wrong here. In terms of black theatre goers, if play is theatre goers, if a play is good, black people are going to go. And i mean, i think its right to say we want more black people go. I think i think people to go. I think i think theyve just taken too far. Theyve just taken it too far. Have form of have they any form of segregation this is bad. We do not want back to. You have not want to go back to. You have to be one way, one colour or another in an audience another to sit in an audience and if its if its a play and also if its if its a play about shooting of a black about the shooting of a black motorist in, in. Thats exactly the a white the sort of thing a white audience probably. Absolutely it is. Yes. Yes. And it was same with the and it was the same with the previous it was about previous one. It was about the slave thats the sort of slave trade. Thats the sort of thing say, should say thing you should say, should say to and to white people, go and watch this. Absolutely. Youre not the lang cat yourselves, learn about this. Quite sad and i think its quite sad because think in the uk weve because i think in the uk weve done well of done really well in terms of being a multicultural society. We hiccups here and we have our hiccups here and there, but not to the extent where saying were going where were saying were going to try and exclude white people from attending play. From attending the play. Its such backwards step. Its such a backwards step. I mean, were never bad mean, we were never that bad back in the 60s when our bands went to america. It was the went over to america. It was the beatles again who actually stood firm not playing firm and went, were not playing to segregated audience. What to a segregated audience. What are talking they are you talking about . They werent they werent used to it, and they refused do and were refused to do it, and they were big enough of push a big enough to kind of push a change there. So they change through there. So if they were that, because it were doing that, then because it wasnt then why wasnt acceptable here, then why is acceptable now . It really isnt. Right, susan, thats all right, susan, thats a neat segue into the next story, controversial world performances indeed. Controversial world performances indeed. World. Miss world, yes. Indeed. World. Miss world, yes. You controversial did you know controversial miss world tonight, its being held in mumbai, i think. Yes, tonight in mumbai. And 120 countries will be broadcasting it. A billion people will be watching. You wont be able to see it here in the uk, were not broadcasting it and its. I broadcasting it and its. I dont know why not. Yeah. Well, carol, Carol Maloney in the express says its because of, how does she put it . Whingeing feminists and gutless television executives. Carol malones executives. Carol malones words, not mine. Saying that. Yeah, theres been a backlash against it. People saying it is sexist. You know, were sexist. You know, were promoting kind beauty above sexist. You know, were pro else 1g kind beauty above sexist. You know, were pro else ,] kind beauty above sexist. You know, were pro else , missi beauty above sexist. You know, were pro else , miss world auty above sexist. You know, were pro else , miss world will above sexist. You know, were pro else , miss world will say. Re all else, miss world will say. And this article, that of carol malones is kind of claiming that its beauty with brains that its beauty with brains that are missing. England is an that are missing. England is an Aerospace Engineering graduate. Jessica geoghegan 27, and yeah, the opportunities that are afforded to the women who do it, the charity work they do, the fundraising, its done, you know, tick, tick, tick. Theres all lots of positives there. But i so i can see it from both points of view. I do think if it was on it wouldnt bother me. Would i watch it . Probably not. And youve got to tell your story about. I presented miss world story about. 1985, i presented miss world story about. 1985, andesented miss world story about. 1985, and from ed miss world story about. 1985, and from the viiss world story about. 1985, and from the albertorld in 1985, and from the albert hall, we got an audience of 88 million. Oh, gosh. Which is pretty good. It has to be the biggest live audience, just a bit less. This morning. This morning. And i hated every second on behalf. I mean, i was treated well because i was the host, what year was this . Did you say 85 . Did you say 85 . Right. And, but i, i sat there and watched these girls and yes, i, the one who won, i think was probably some sort of brain surgeon or something, but they always. Iceland. Yeah. Iceland. Yeah. Miss iceland, was in those miss iceland, was it in those days . But i remember days . Gosh, but all i remember is being herded is seeing them being herded around like a herd of sheep treated. I mean, so treated. I mean, so patronisingly by everybody seemed to be me to be involved in the whole thing. I didnt i was asked to do it again, and i didnt do it the next year because i just thought it was disgusting and would disgusting and i would never watch dont think watch it. And i dont think there isnt a hide behind this illusion that everybodys a brain surgeon and they do want charity. Do. Charity. Yeah, which they do. They organisation they do the whole organisation often generates money, often generates charity money, but judging people on but its still judging people on the looks they were born with. There isnt a swimsuit section anymore. I love they have got. I love the glamour of it. I love the glamour of it. Leave there sue, leave it there steph sue, glamour, thank you much. Glamour, thank you very much. Well you more in well come back to you more in the i think the the next hour. I think the first your weather aidan your weather with aidan mcgivern. That warm feeling inside from boxt boilers sponsors of weather on gb news news. Hi there and welcome to the latest forecast for gb news from the met office. Its going to be a dull weekend , a cold feel as a dull weekend, a cold feel as well with brisk easterly winds and spells of rain or showers moving across the country. We start the day with a lot of cloud cover, outbreaks of rain moving through parts of southwest , wales, the southwest england, wales, the midlands into Northern England, eventually midlands into Northern England, eventu showers carried in into seeing showers carried in into the east. And were going to see outbreaks of rain also arriving into eastern parts of northern ireland. Driest and brightest weather towards the south east, with some sunny spells, western scotland as well, and after a chilly start things will warm up a touch. Although it will stay on the cold side in the east with the brisk wind coming from the north sea into the evening. Further spells of rain or showers, some heavy at times across the southwest as well as into wales, Northern England and then the south east, gets a bit of a soaking as a band of persistent rain moves through, and that spreads across much of the east of the uk overnight, a few showers continuing further west , of course, with the cloud west, of course, with the cloud and the rain and the breeze overnight, its going to be mostly free, although mostly frost free, although there will be a touch of frost across scotland we there will be a touch of frost acrget scotland we there will be a touch of frost acrget prolonged we do get some prolonged clear spells. But its an unsettled start day tomorrow. A lot start to the day tomorrow. A lot of cloud cover spells of rain for many places, especially across scotland into much of england , east wales and Northern England, east wales and northern ireland. The brightest weather actually the afternoon will actually by the afternoon will be across the southwest, although the potential be across the southwest, a|few1gh the potential be across the southwest, a|few showersthe potential be across the southwest, a|few showers here. tential be across the southwest, a|few showers here. And ial be across the southwest, a|few showers here. And its a few showers here. And its going to feel cold, with temperatures places temperatures in many places staying at 6 to 8 celsius. A brighter outlook with boxt solar sponsors of weather on are set to go ahead despite concerns from the counterterrorism tsar that london has become a no go zone for jewish people. Katherine forjewish people. Katherine forster will bring us the latest. Yes, rishi sunak appealed to protesters not to let extremists ruin the marches. Here we go again. Will people listen . Will it be any different . Ill bring you news throughout the day. Ill be following the marches. Ill be following the marches. Yeah. And this comes as the head of the Foreign Affairs committee claims israel is blocking aid getting into gaza. Blocking aid getting into gaza. As the humanitarian crisis in the region deepens. The region deepens. And elsewhere in the news, meghan speaks out about the social media abuse shes received, particularly during her pregnancies. And, of course, the princess of waless uncle claims that harry and meghan should actually be stripped of their titles. Their titles. Meanwhile, over the pond, us President Joe Biden and donald trump are set to hold duelling rallies in georgia over the weekend. Well be looking ahead to that epic clash , and the to that epic clash, and the government is going to announce that criminals could be released from prison a month early to tackle the overcrowding problem in jails, but could this lead to more disorder on our streets . More disorder on our streets . And media mogul Rupert Murdoch gets engaged once again at the grand old age of 92. But how old is too old to get married . Is too old to get married . We have already shone a light on Anthony Joshuas demolition in the desert, and the premier league clash of the titans at anfield tomorrow. This hour well be speaking to an England Rugby cup winner ahead of Rugby World Cup winner ahead of england v ireland the six england v ireland in the six nafions england v ireland in the six nations twickenham. Later today. If youve got outdoor plans this weekend, its not the best weather. There will be rain and showers around but not everywhere. Will be wet all the time. Find full details in time. Find the full details in the forecast coming up soon. Its good to be with you well its good to be with you at 8 00 this morning. Im anne diamond and im Martin Daubney and this is breakfast on gb news. 92 is that too old to get married again . I dont think so. Married again . I dont think so. I think if you found love, you should count your blessings. Should count your blessings. Well, the last thing i want to do at nine to do is get married again. I just want to have a nap. Well, i think theres more to life. Well, it depends how you are and what sort of person you are. But Rupert Murdoch clearly, and as people know, and i think as most people know, im not a fan, but i, you im in im not a fan, but i, you know, i defend his right seek know, i defend his right to seek happiness romance at 92 if happiness and romance at 92 if he hes, you fit he thinks hes, you know, fit and well, hes maintained his sexual hasnt he. Sexual allure, hasnt he. Bank balance is no doubt the bank balance is a hefty help. Yeah, but also think hes yeah, but i also think hes clever enough to know that. And hes likes hes the sort hes still likes hes the sort of who likes to have of man who likes to have a beautiful woman on his arm. And a companion his kids have a companion and his kids have gone, no, here go again. Gone, oh, no, here we go again. Yeah. Know, but he probably yeah. You know, but he probably thinks that is. Theres thinks now that life is. Theres more life than arguing with more to life than arguing with your kids time, and your kids all the time, and also, theres probably more to life than just doing business deals time so wants deals all the time. So he wants somebody and i dont somebody to talk to, and i dont know, i just think its. I think its okay. Dont you . Id love to hear from you if youve had an of, love in later an instance of, love in later life, in your family, whats your story . Id love to know. My your story . Id love to know. My mum was. My mum was absolutely gorgeous and beautiful and very vibrant and vital at 80, when we gave her her 80th birthday, she brought along her lovely, lovely boyfriend , who we all adored boyfriend, who we all adored because my father had died some years before and we were all thrilled that she had a lovely companion and they used to sit on a sunday afternoon. They used to sit and get the sunday times out or whatever, and go through all of the holiday sections in the back and book holidays the back and just book holidays like and i think thats a like that. And i think thats a great way to live, particularly in life. So do let us in later life. So do let us know, the usual way. Gb views at gb news. Com tell us your story. Moving on. Pro us. Now moving on. Pro palestinian demonstrations will go ahead once today as go ahead once again today as Counter Terrorism sa said, certain parts of london have become no go zones forjewish people. And the protest follows accusations by the chair of the Foreign Affairs select committee that israel is blocking aid into gaza and it comes as protest group Palestine Action. As you can see on your screens there, sprayed and slashed an historic painting of lord balfour at the university of cambridge yesterday. Of cambridge yesterday. Yeah, the group actually claimed that the piece symbolised the bloodshed of the Palestinian People since the Balfour Declaration , which was Balfour Declaration, which was in 1917. Yeah, and were joined now in our studio by a Political Correspondent, Katherine Forster and can we see any change, do you think today, catherine, in the policing, youve been at these demonstrations since the very beginning. Youve had some stick yourself. They roll on and on and on. Rishi sunak has implored police to stand implored the police to stand firmer, they seem to firmer, but they dont seem to be doing that. No, like groundhog day , no, its like groundhog day, ihave no, its like groundhog day, i have to say, because the first one was the saturday after the atrocities by hamas on october the 7th and many saturdays since , many millions being spent by the police and this appeal, of course, from the Prime Minister, just over a week ago to the police, to police robustly and to the protesters saying, dont let extremists wreck your marches. But the question is, is anybody listening . And is it going to make any difference . Because the met police boss saying , well, we have to police saying, well, we have to police within the law. This is the law as it stands and you know, nothing has changed in some senses. Rishi sunak standing there and issuing a plea doesnt mean that were going to see the same sorts of scenes. And what surprised me in these marches over and over again. How many have you been on . Oh, i have no, no, ive lost count almost all of them. Most of them. Most of them. This is what i do on saturday. But. And you know, the river to the sea, you hear that . Chanted repeatedly. The police dont act now. They say that. Thats because they cant. People are entitled to say that. Also, the protesters will chant it for a few seconds and then. And then stop, stop. I see, but but also things like covering your face now that is not allowed. But again, you see so many people with their face covered talking to the police at the marches, they clearly would rather not arrest people. In fact, theyve made dozens of arrests. But weve seen hundreds of thousands of people at these marches. So dozens of arrests is a small number. And i think as of the end of the year, last yean of the end of the year, last year, only about 36 had actually been charged. So these are tiny numbers. And of course, this is teaching protesters that you can go really quite far without consequence. So it will be interesting to see. But i think its very obvious. You can see why the Jewish Community increasingly feel when these marches are taking place, that Central London has become a no go zone. And thats very, very sad. Okay. Well, political okay. Well, political commentator Peter Spencer joins us here as well. I mean, whos us here as well. I mean, whos to blame then for this chaotic , to blame then for this chaotic, problem that nobody seems to be able to have the courage to tackle . Tackle . Well, ultimately, whos to blame is, of course, us, because october the 7th, they they slaughtered 1200 jewish people. And that has set the ball rolling for the hideous carnage that weve seen since the Palestinian Death toll , now Palestinian Death toll, now mainly women and children, is some 30 times that number. And weve got to a point where joe biden, the Benjamin Netanyahus staunchest ally, is getting impatient with the way the israeli. Well, to be fair, everybody is now getting impatient with this. Absolutely right. Absolutely right. Yeah and so that said, there are bound to be ripples of these tensions and this grief spreading outwards. And it spreads onto london street. No surprise there. Whatever i mean, i do take the point that the vast majority of the demonstrations have actually been peaceful in the vast majority of the demonstrators are simply saying, look, stop the fighting. Theyre not using the fighting. Theyre not using the word and blah, blah, blah, the g word and blah, blah, blah, blah, of course, the blah, blah. And of course, the police an incredibly police have an incredibly difficult job to do because on the hand, they do have to , the one hand, they do have to, uphold of peaceful uphold the right of peaceful demonstrators to express their views. And also, lets get real here, if they decided, right, were going to arrest anybody whos out demonstrating, well, where are they going to put them . For a start. You and whose army . But, martin, i mean, you were coming out of the westminster studio they studio that one day when they predicted the river to the sea image on the elizabeth tower of big ben, and they they didnt stop it, did they . Stop it, did they . Well, more than that, i pleaded with police. I said, theres the projector, go and nick them. They were putting that on on big ben. It that image on the on big ben. It was being portrayed around the world. It sent out a world. I thought it sent out a terrible message. In terrible message. Men in balaclavas, chucking eggs balaclavas, women chucking eggs at me, chucking fluids could have been anything. I was have been anything. And i was saying police, nick saying to the police, nick them, nick theres interest, nick them. Theres no interest, pete. Interest pete. They had no interest because the police, i believe well, seen it with own well, ive seen it with my own eyes at demos. They simply eyes at these demos. They simply stand and watch. They get stand and watch. They dont get involved. Soft the mob. mean, enm mean, do as yeah. I mean, they do as little as they possibly can because, i say, if they were because, as i say, if they were to charge in there in a, in a militant fashion, then that would hideously. And would escalate hideously. And youd civil youd have serious civil disorder the streets. Disorder on the streets. Somebody could have stood in front of the projector, though, couldnt they . Thought couldnt they . Well, i thought myself about it a boot myself about giving it a boot and thought, if i do that, and i thought, if i do that, ill nicked. Ill get nicked. Serve you. Yes, you serve you. Yes, you serve you. Serve you right. Yeah. Serve you right. Yeah. There we go. Well, there we go. Well, there we go. But they nicked or beaten but they get nicked or beaten up. Mean, it wouldnt have up. I mean, it wouldnt have been very prospect should been very nice. Prospect should we former conservative we ask, former conservative adviser claire pearsall. What she whos blame and she makes of whos to blame and whos do anything about whos going to do anything about this . Whos going the nettle . Yeah, well, youre quite right. And i think that the police have some serious questions answer, especially questions to answer, especially when you look at the behaviour outside of westminster on that wednesday evening. And i was around the estate at that time and it was pretty hideous, i have to say, and to not take away the projector, that they could quite clearly see was a ridiculous decision. But i do also think that there is impetus upon the organisers of the march to have their protesters understand that covering your face is basically illegal, and carrying those banners with certain words on shouldnt be allowed and should be taken away. And i think that the organisers really do have to make that message, say , we want make that message, say, we want to come together for this reason. We want to come together and express our views, but you must do this within the law. So i think that the responsibility really is with pretty much everybody the prime everybody. I think the Prime Minister done his bit. There minister has done his bit. There is nothing more that parliament can add to the law. There is currently enough legislation surrounding now comes surrounding it. So it now comes down to faith leaders. It comes down to faith leaders. It comes down to faith leaders. It comes down to organisers and it comes down to organisers and it comes down to organisers and it comes down to individuals to actually understand if theyre chanting something out, what it is, because in some cases i dont think they do. Well, claire, i wonder if the time for chit chat and soft talking is over. Rishi sunak is imploring the police to get tough. Sir mark rowley said were not going to do that and what were doing will carry on. Weve heard from the governments own home offices independent adviser on extremism, rob simcox, this week saying , oh, you know, dont saying, oh, you know, dont allow the extremists amongst your isnt going to your fold that isnt going to happen. It time to call time happen. Is it time to call time on this . In france, they ban these they did the same these marches. They did the same in are at that point now . I think its very difficult. And i think peter touched on this. The more you go in with a with a heavy boot, the more likely it is to kick off. And if you start banning marches that have been organised and the route has been given to the police, then they will just spnng police, then they will just spring up in areas where the police wont be expecting them. So think that you, you risk so i think that you, you risk a further disorder and probably worse disorder than were seeing. So there are no easy answers. It would be very nice to have the streets back on a saturday without these going without these marches going ahead , but unfortunately, ahead, but unfortunately, i dont think the case dont think thats the case until something changes in the middle east. Okay, well, well leave it there. Thank very much, there. Thank you very much, claire, peter and catherine, thank very much , at 8 12, thank you very much, at 8 12, heres that has heres something that has clearly got you going today. I must say, weve had so many emails come in to gb views at gb news. Com we werent able to read them all out. Some of them are very extreme. They are as well. You dont feel very friendly towards meghan, but in, one way of putting it, it was International Womens day. You see, yesterday, and, last night she joined. Shes the duchess of sussex. Of course. She joined a Panel Discussion on womens representation in entertainment and the media. Yeah. Meghan told the panel she was cyber bullied while pregnant with archie and lilibet. The bulk of the bullying and abuse that i was experiencing in social media and online was when i was pregnant with archie and with lili, and with a newborn with lili, and with a newborn with each of them, and you just think about that and you to really wrap your head around why people would be so hateful. People would be so hateful. Well, its not catty. Its cruel. Why you would do that. And certainly when youre pregnant or you have a newborn, we all, as moms, you know, its such a tender sacred time. Such a tender and sacred time. Now this all comes after news yesterday that meghan and harry. But meghan particularly, theyre looking for sort of Public Relations experts here in britain to relaunch their image in the uk. Well, joining us now to discuss this is royal commentator richard fitzwilliams. Welcome to the show richard. Always a pleasure. So its fair to say , meghan so its fair to say, Meghan Markle at least has a pretty dire public reputation it seems. If you look at the comments from our readers and viewers anyway , our readers and viewers anyway, its a pretty big job, isnt it . To be her pr guru in the uk . Well, now that is a sisyphean challenge , george. I mean, challenge, george. I mean, really, it is the point so far as International Womens day is concerned. I mean, to be fair, shes always done something on International Womens day regarding herself as a feminist. Theres no doubt that, what she says, and its interesting , says, and its interesting, actually, it does get a tremendous amount of coverage , tremendous amount of coverage, but not necessarily, as youve just pointed out, but not necessarily, as youve just pointed out , favourable just pointed out, favourable coverage. But if, in fact, shes seeking to rehabilitate her reputation here in, in europe, i mean, i just simply dont see it. I mean, the point firstly is that her reputation were the sussexes are far, far less popular in the united states. But so far as britains concerned , i mean, they pretty concerned, i mean, they pretty well been at rock bottom for a very long time, for four years. Theyve caused enormous problems for the royal family. And people just simply dont forget that. Just simply dont forget that. And also, i mean, weve just had the shortlisting of the book awards of harrys memoir, spare now. He had a very skilful ghost writer no doubt he narrates it perfectly adequately, but that book did a lot of harm. And if you trash your family, people dont respect you. Respect you. Its interesting that theyve never really shown very much interest in their popularity back home. Here in britain until now, when there is a lot of talk in the states that their popularity there is really waning in fact, tanking, and also this, this idea thats bubbung also this, this idea thats bubbling under the surface that at some point it maybe it would be a new President Trump, for instance , who would say, get rid instance, who would say, get rid of harry from the states. He, he because of the way he applied for his visa and in in other words, that harry and meghan may have to look for a new home. And if its in britain, then theyve really got to do something about their image here. Firstly , i mean, spare well, firstly, i mean, spare was so toxic that they were evicted from frogmore cottage. I mean, that was the way the royal family were able to make their feelings known. So far as the visa , application and what he visa, application and what he put on it. We havent seen it, but a judge has asked to see it, to see whether it should be made public. Now i think that this highlights how unwise the sussexes have been. I think that they were on a level where they were felt somewhat entitled, that they could say what they think. I mean, meghan once said in interview, i can say what in an interview, i can say what i like. Well, you can never say what you like. And harry has talked openly and talked quite openly and certainly to doctor gabor matte, one of the interviews he gave to promote spare, about drugs and in his opinion, the remedial use of them. The facts are, however, that this may cause problems in the weeks and months to come. And if President Trump, if there were to be a President Trump, we know his relationship with the sussexes, to put it mildly, is icy. Hes made that very clear recently , you never know exactly recently, you never know exactly where this is going to go. I mean, i cant i certainly cant see in any form a member of the royal family being, so to speak, evicted from the united states. I mean, the whole thing would be a bizarre circus if that was the case. But precisely where this ends up, one cant tell at the moment. And the facts are theyve been very unwise. You cant say exactly what you think. And some of the stuff he put in spare, whether it was losing his virginity, penile frostbite, the he took the numbers of taliban he took out on the his second tour of duty in afghanistan, something the military dont do. And the issues of drugs. All of this may well i mean firstly was an object of mockery. Secondly, the issue of drugs may come back to haunt him in ways that we cant yet foresee. Yet foresee. Okay, richard fitzwilliams, we have to leave it there. Thanks for joining we have to leave it there. Thanks forjoining us. Always a pleasure. And is it an interesting as well that we see them promoting Mental Health projects as they do . I cant think of anything much worse for your Mental Health than engaging with social media when youre pregnant, and youre one of the most famous women in the world, surely a better position, anne would be just to say ive deleted all my apps yeah , i dont care. You are yeah, i dont care. You are howling into the void. You are immaterial to my to my life. Stop the trolls. Stop feeding the trolls. Except that theyre not immaterial. Because harry and meghan, they left the royal meghan, when they left the royal family, stuff that was family, had to do stuff that was going to bring in the money they had to earn their living. And we all know nowadays that its in the media. You have to have a social media following. Dont you . Whether theyre nasty followers or nice ones. Followers or nice ones. But i know like nigel farage gets an immense amount of abuse. All he ever does is projects outwards, never reads any of the comments, never engages with any of comments. Dont get of the comments. Dont get involved. Be bigger, be above involved. Be bigger, be above it, your message and it, project your message and move on. Why cant meghan do the same . Why did she read all that stuff when she was pregnant and vulnerable . And as i say, one of the most famous women in the world. She ought to better. But ought to know better. But apparently theyre very bad at taking harry meghan. Taking advice. Harry and meghan. So theyre so its said. So if theyre looking a pr guru in looking for a pr guru here in britain, gosh, good luck with them. Tough job. Yes, it them. Its a tough job. Yes, it would a very tough job. Would be a very tough job. I dont think youd last very long. Where are we . 8 19. Long. Right. Where are we . 8 19. Were going to be talking about the sport coming up. But first of lets catch up with the of all, lets catch up with the weather news. Looks like things are heating up. Boxt boilers sponsors of weather on gb news. 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And still to come in a couple of moments. When are in a couple of moments. When are you old to married . Try you too old to get married . Try telling Rupert Murdoch. Anyway, well and from some well try and find out from some experts on the subject welcome back 827. Youre watching and listening to breakfast with anne and martin. Now , our media mogul rupert now, our media mogul Rupert Murdoch plans to marry once again. This time his girlfriend, again. This time his girlfriend, elena zhukova, at the grand old age of 92. Yeah, some people think that hes actually too old to be getting married again. But i say, why not . If the couple are happy, if it makes him happy and her as well . Age shouldnt be a barrier, should it . Yeah so today were asking the big question can one be too old to get married . Well , joining us now is well, joining us now is artist Monica Roberts and relationship coach fahima mahomed. And its lovely to see you both. Right. Lets start you both. Right. Lets start with you, monica , because youve with you, monica, because youve got an older husband, i think a 12 year age gap, which probably isnt that unusual nowadays. What do you think . When do you think youre too old to actually think youre too old to actually think of romance . Think of romance . I dont think youre ever too old, to be honest. I from i think hes. If hes happy , i think hes. If hes happy, i think hes. If hes happy, i think thats the most important thing. And if a younger wife is what makes him happy, then i say good on him. Famer, if youve got a 92 year old man who is very powerful, huge personality, very rich, of course, obviously, probably very interesting to talk to, if youre not affected by some of his press, things, but in other words, hes got charisma. Clearly hes got money. Hes got standing, hes got power, can you ever have a real relationship with that person when hes the grand old age of 92 . And youre, what, 65 . Well, you know, this is very interesting. And i know that times have changed. Theres always exceptions to the rules, but studies recently have shown that actually the larger the gap, theres more likely to split. And of course theres inequality with the power control with the especially with someone of his calibre. And of course, everyone can talk from their own experience. And like i said, theres always going to be the that says it doesnt the one that says it doesnt matter. Studies do matter. But recent studies do show that the age gap does matter, and anything over five, you a percentage of 18 of you have a percentage of 18 of split. Anything ten years and above is 39. And if its 20 years gap, which is in this particular case, it is 95, sort of chance of you actually splitting. So theres lots to consider for many reasons. And of course, as you are older as well, you do have the advantage, especially in his case, in his case of actually having this more of a business contract than actually a Relationship Issue where you want someone to be there for you and it actually works in your favour instead of having a carer, especially in his condition right now , is to his condition right now, is to have somebody there to take care of all your needs, not just the one thing. And monica, a cynic, might say you what attracted you say, you know what attracted you to millionaire rupert to the millionaire Rupert Murdoch . But certainly his kids might concerned about that. Might be concerned about that. Isnt that another huge concern where you have age gaps of such a nature . The fact that if he p0ps a nature . The fact that if he pops his clogs, then the new mrs. Might get all the cash . Mrs. Might get all the cash . Well, i suppose that is, a concern for the family, but i think ultimately, if they love each other , they have a right to each other, they have a right to happiness no matter what the age gap or no how old, no matter how old he is. I mean, from my own experience, i have been incredibly happy in a relationship. Ive been accepted relationship. Ive been accepted by my familys, my husbands family. I mean, thats never been an issue. And i think they happy to see him happy, and he makes me happy. And i think that is what is important. As long as he has something in common, its it works to me. I find whats interesting about this announcement is not the age gap. So much as the fact that he is 92 and hes still wants love in his life. Is that unusual , do wants love in his life. Is that unusual, do you think, famer its not unusual. Like i said, everyone will have their rights to have what they want , but we have to they want, but we have to analyse the situation as to what are the actual core needs for each partner, and what are the concerns and the impact, and obviously long terme jvt obviously the long terme jvt of the actual relationship and one, you know, more likely is going to pass later on. So what is the actual, insight as to why would you want to enter into a relationship like that in the first place . From his perspective, as well as his partners . Because theres so many regards to many limitations with regards to even , you know, mobility, even his, you know, mobility, his cognitive thought, his actual , his cognitive thought, his actual, ability and his Life Expectancy. Also, the fact that, you know, their actual compatibility with regards to their stages and ages and the different goals and plans and yes, everyone can talk from their own experience. But like i said, these are studies from thousands of, you know, people across the cultures , across sort across the cultures, across sort of, know, research to show of, you know, research to show that doesnt necessarily is that this doesnt necessarily is the best way to move forward, nor is it the compatibility in the Life Expectancy or the actual ways in which that they can actually aspire to grow old, you know, in a way that you would think that normal couples will last in, you know, especially if its just a two, three year gap. All right. Fascinating business. Yeah. But hell go ahead anyway because he always does what he wants, doesnt he. Farmer monica, thank you farmer and monica, thank you very its very much indeed. Its interesting talking about, hes a businessman. Hes been a businessman life. Hes businessman all his life. Hes 92 now. He still wants love in his life. That more of a sort his life. Is that more of a sort of business relationship, than maybe a lovey dovey one . And it is always said that Aristotle Onassis, when he married Jackie Kennedy, had very much a business pact with her that she would spend so many nights a year with him that she would do so many events alongside him on his arm. It was very much a sort of business contract. Yeah, you might find that 92. He doesnt even last a wedding night, but what a way to go. True. True. Yeah, hed die with a smile on your face, wouldnt you . On your face, wouldnt you . Lots people would have a lots of people would have a smile on face. But there smile on their face. But there you no more need be said you go, no more need be said about that. 833 shall we move on to the sport in just a couple of moments . Have got, sport wise . Plenty going on this weekend. Plenty going on this weekend. And already shone a light and weve already shone a light on boxing anthony on the boxing with Anthony Joshua weve looked ahead joshua. Weve also looked ahead to league game to the premier league game tomorrow Manchester City to the premier league game tomyliverpool. Manchester city to the premier league game tomyliverpool. Nof chester city to the premier league game tomyliverpool. Nof the ;ter city and liverpool. Clash of the titans. The break though, titans. After the break though, well looking ahead six well be looking ahead to six nafions well be looking ahead to six nations action twickenham, nations action at twickenham, ireland against england. Well be hearing from a hello again. Welcome back. 836. Youre watching and listening to breakfast with anne and martin. And aidans joined us, and its funny, i. Ill tell you what we were talking about dunng you what we were talking about during the break. I dont quite know how we got onto the subject, know me, but the romance of doing drying up together. Yeah, well, you mentioned this a friend of yours, this about a friend of yours, their parents. Yeah. Their parents. They. Yeah. Interesting because. Its interesting because. Because theres. Because you know, theres. I think someone used the phrase early one early on. Theres more than one way a cat. And so some way to skin a cat. And so some relationships work some ways, others in ways. But my others in other ways. But my parents, example, had care parents, for example, had care homes they very much in homes, so they were very much in each pockets each others pockets all the time. The homes were 30 time. And the care homes were 30 miles from their homes. So miles away from their homes. So they had put each other on they had to put each other on shift at same time. There shift at the same time. There was to do an all was so much to do with an all encompassing job. Youre never really for all those really off duty for all those years. Having that, the years. Having said that, the contrast that a mile away contrast was that a mile away from mine, a friend mine, from mine, a friend of mine, andrew, id round to andrew, id go round to his house school sometimes house after school sometimes a couple week, and couple of nights a week, and i remember offering to help his mum with with the drying up. Mum with the with the drying up. I do it often, but i did i didnt do it often, but i did on a couple of occasions and she said, oh no, id rather you did it. Because husband, paul, said, oh no, id rather you did it. Be yeah, but you cant escape. You escape. No, but you cant escape. No, but its i dont know, theres an intimacy to but there intimacy to it, but there certainly to drying the certainly is to drying the dishes together. I think thats lovely. I know we lovely. I dont know how we totally that. Totally got on to that. We dont. Things we dont. Things we dont. Got somebody special youve got somebody special for to for us to meet. Oh, absolutely. Yeah. Hes hes been on gb news before and we look ahead to the six we want to look ahead to the six nafions we want to look ahead to the six nations match today. England versus ireland at twickenham. I want in lewis moody, want to bring in lewis moody, the world cup winner with the 2003 world cup winner with england. Of course, down there in lewis, good morning in sydney. Lewis, good morning to news as to you. Welcome to gb news as always. Are always. Now ireland are not comfortable their as comfortable with their tag as favourites this afternoon, but surely, a dyed in the surely, even as a dyed in the wool england can wool england man, you can probably no, no other probably see no, no, no other way billing it. Way of billing it. Absolutely. And they no absolutely. And they rightly that tag. Rightly have that tag. I just want lean back on i just want to lean back on the conversation youre having with about travelling with the conversation youre having with kids bout travelling with the conversation youre having with kids bout trcar. Ling with the conversation youre having with kids bout trcar. Whatith the conversation youre having with kids bout trcar. What a1 your kids in the car. What a beautiful that to have beautiful time that is to have proper conversations. Kids proper conversations. My kids always in the car in a always unload in the car in a good way, yeah. Ireland. Good way, but yeah. Ireland. Ireland. Totally random point. I just made me smile this just it just made me smile this morning and thank you. Morning and say thank you. I love i love what ireland have been doing. Know, andy been doing. You know, andy fowler, played fowler, whos, who i played with in and seven in the two thousand and seven world is leading ireland. World cup is leading ireland. Hes mike qatar, 2003 world hes got mike qatar, 2003 world cup winning englishmen in his in his leading their attack, his side leading their attack, they wondrous things , they are doing wondrous things, you even with the absence you know, even with the absence of talisman, johnny of their talisman, johnny sexton, around so sexton, whod been around for so long directed that ireland long and directed that ireland team crowley has come in at fly half and taken them to seemingly a new level. So i know theyre unhappy with that tag of favourites, but thats what they are. And england, know, not are. And england, you know, not surprisingly, but come into this really outsiders. An really rank outsiders. An underdog hopefully suits them in this. This game. Louis, can i just put it to you bluntly . Do you think ireland should have won the world cup . Oh, should have won the world cup. I was i was so devastated as you know, as a as someone sitting in the Northern Hemisphere wanting another Northern Hemisphere team to do well, as as the french went well, as soon as the french went out, you know, that was gutting in a home, a home tournament. In a home, in a home tournament. The irish, who had been number one the world and still one side in the world and still are team in are arguably the best team in the the moment, just the world at the moment, just couldnt when it was couldnt do it when it was needed. And it does show you how difficult it is to go and win a tournament like that, but they have weapons at their have all the weapons at their disposal at minute. And if disposal at the minute. And if you at this england team, you look at this england team, Steve Borthwick that Steve Borthwick knows that ireland so he ireland can score tries. So he has what can has brought in what you can probably most probably say is englands most exciting since the exciting back three since the likes josh, lucy and jason likes of josh, lucy and Jason Robinson , with theo bossu coming robinson, with theo bossu coming in, really quite an in, who is really quite an exciting player. Ireland louis have struggled with psychology, usually at world cups in the past, never really making it beyond the quarter finals. But also quarter finals. But they also seem have a little bit of seem to have a little bit of a psychological block at twickenham. Dont there twickenham. They dont win there very do you expect very often. Do you expect that to a this afternoon . To be a factor this afternoon . In the slightest. No, not in the slightest. No, not in the slightest. Not in the slightest. I mean, if anyones seen Andy Farrells lions videos that doing the rounds over this rounds on youtube over this week, you know, there is a man that knows how to deal with pressure. Hes done it as a player. Hes done it as a coach, and i have absolutely no doubt that this team are prepared for whatever to whatever england are going to throw steve throw at them. And Steve Borthwick an borthwick wants to play an attacking, aggressive style of rugby, i think in the rugby, which i think in the first half we could see some, some elements of open play and england exploiting some of some of the gaps that exist that are very few of them in the irish defence, but i think then really ireland will probably run away with it and, you know, despite some changes, like george some of the changes, like George Martin coming in in the second row, big ball carrying, row, hes a big ball carrying, you whos been you know, fella whos been plying you know, fella whos been plying trade away took plying his trade away took a great opportunity coming off the bench against scotland did bench against scotland as did were so the only real nervy were both so the only real nervy area in terms of where area for me in terms of where england can be exploited potentially is that inexperience in the back three. You know, no. Freddie stewart , no elliot daly. Freddie stewart, no elliot daly. But you do have three players that are the next generation that are the next generation that could potentially open up this game for england if they get an opportunity to have the ball, which im sure ireland unlikely, will let them have. Unlikely, will let them have. Great. Listen, lewis, its great to have you on gb news as usual. Well look forward to further analysis from you. Im sure in the days and months to come. But yeah, it should be a thrilling fixture this afternoon at twickenham ireland at twickenham and i take ireland to win. If i was going to be to win. If i was going to be a betting man, im not, i dont, i dont gamble very often that you know, you get very, get very small price on that. But yeah england it looks, it looks theyre, theyre on looks like theyre, theyre on very thin ice. Should have won the they should have won the world cup i think ireland i think know actually england think you know actually england got ireland the got further than ireland in the world cup. I think ireland certainly underperformed world cup. I think ireland certainly englandformed world cup. I think ireland certainly englandformaidan arguably england over aidan magee. Arguably england over aidan mayalways pleasure. Thank you. Always a pleasure. Thank you. Always a pleasure. Thank you. Well leave 846. Welcome back. Youre watching and listening to breakfast with anne and martin. Well go through the newspapers now. Stephanie takyi and susan holder are with us. And thanks for coming in again. Its lovely to see you, susan. Yes, yes. Matthew perry. Matthew perry. Yes. So, Matthew Perry who . Everybody, presumably knows as Chandler Bing on friends who unfortunately , fairly recently unfortunately, fairly recently died, was not mentioned in the in memoriam section of the film baftas that were held just a couple of weeks ago. And everyone was up in arms about this because, its such a shocking death. I think we all feel we knew Matthew Perry so well. Friends. I mean, i know there are some people who dont watch friends, but and it was not very many navalny its on all the time, everywhere you go. And you know, controversial. And i, you know, controversial. But didnt they mention him . Well, we dont know why they didnt. They said that. They said in the tv said its going to be in the tv because that was the film. Baftas theres to be baftas and theres going to be the tv baftas. Yeah. And he was a actor as well. A film actor as well. Hes done two movies, hes done, done movies. Only done, hes done big movies. Only fools rush in, so hes had that credibility. Tina turner got a mention from not from which, i mean, its not right kind of pick up who was right to kind of pick up who was and who wasnt, because i would say that tina turner was right to to to be mentioned, but not to mention perry on the mention Matthew Perry on on the button, think was an omission. Button, i think was an omission. So his, his, his ex girlfriend, who was his pa, has come who was also his pa, has come out well, shes out and said, well, shes actually was his dream to be actually it was his dream to be mentioned at oscars. I dont mentioned at the oscars. I dont expect was his dream to be expect it was his dream to be mentioned in the in memoriam section. But but he section. Yeah, but but he was what he always he wanted to what he always said he wanted to be remembered he that be remembered for. He knew that when he died because he obviously a big struggles when he died because he obvi depression big struggles when he died because he obvi depression and struggles when he died because he obvi depression and addiction. With depression and addiction. Yeah. He wrote a book that yeah. And he wrote a book that has all of that. And he has detailed all of that. And he always said, i know its going to but when i die, to happen, but when i die, i dont want the first thing to be friends. Them to friends. I want them to say i did lots of to help other did lots of work to help other people, which he did with depression addiction depression and addiction and i think did do that. And think he did do that. And i think he did do that. And i think if anyone reads his book, theyll know that. And thats why wanted to it today to why i wanted to say it today to say really that, that that say that really that, that that is how will think of him is how i will now think of him going such going forward. And he is such a familiar and familiar kind and controversially, i would say hes is favourite friend. Hes is he the favourite friend. Hes nearly everybodys favourite so favourite because he was so funny. Was intrinsic to funny. He was so intrinsic to that i do, but they all that show, i do, but they all were. Was the brilliance. That show, i do, but they all werbut was the brilliance. That show, i do, but they all werbut heas the brilliance. That show, i do, but they all werbut he he he brilliance. That show, i do, but they all werbut he he actuallyance. Upset but he he actually was upset with the writing as with a lot of the writing as well. Yeah. Well. Yeah, yeah. Anyway, move on to this anyway, lets move on to this story weve covering story weve been covering throughout morning. But throughout the morning. But steph, about getting steph, were just about getting into earlier. Into this with you earlier. Yeah. And thats Meghan Markle. No, droning on. No, lets be honest droning on. Yeah abused. Woe yeah about being abused. Woe betide has a gilded betide me. She has a gilded lifestyle. Yet made once lifestyle. And yet she made once again subject speech again the subject of her speech the shes hard the fact that shes very hard done us more. Well you done by. Tell us more. Well you know she she attended the southwest southwest festival southwest by southwest festival in texas yesterday and shed done speech and, she done a keynote speech and, she said that, you know, she opened up about the cyberbullying she faced while she was pregnant with archie and lilibet. And but what i found more intriguing was she said it was women had been women who had been cyberbullying, which im not surprised men have surprised about because men have a relaxed approach, maybe towards might not towards meghan. They might not like her, but theyre not actually going to on twitter actually going to go on twitter and hate against and spew all this hate against her. But what i find her. Yeah, but what i find interesting is she always talks about Mental Health. And when it comes social media, people comes to social media, people always say, read the always say, dont read the comments, dont look for comments, just dont look for it. Because once you read it, youre to almost just youre going to almost just absorb all that kind of hate and criticism. In meghans criticism. But in meghans defence, curiosity always kills the cat. Sometimes you do want the cat. Sometimes you do want to know what people are saying about you online, and i think you know, meghan is the most talked about person and i feel like even for her, sometimes it must block out. And must be hard to block out. And you were in this you know, were in this generation where talks generation where everyone talks about kind , be kind. About be kind, be kind. And i know meghans going on know meghans always going on about , but she still about something, but she still has right express how she has a right to express how she feels. Been treated. Feels. Shes been treated. Its a conundrum because she has to be famous in order. They both now have to be famous in order to the money in, order to get the money in, because earn their because they have to earn their own platform own good to use your platform for wouldnt it . For some good, wouldnt it . That famous. If youre that famous. If youre that famous. But how do famous . As but how do you be famous . As famous she is. Yeah how how famous as she is. Yeah how how do with that level of do you exist with that level of fame not look at social fame and not look at social media . Listen, but dont look dont listen, but dont look at yes. I mean, you have to. We yes. I mean, you have to. We all. Now im on do doing all. Now im on tv do just doing this. There this. Yeah. There will be comments people say. Comments that people will say. And would say actually its and i would say actually its not women do that in my not just women who do that in my experience, i think meghans experience, but i think meghans interesting. Go on on interesting. Want to go on on International Womens day platform out women. Platform and call out women. Its an interesting take. Meghan. I know who does meghan. I dont know who does her but meghan. I dont know who does her but i mean, what her pr advice, but i mean, what if its true . If its true if its true . Well, if its true , is that the time to say it . Do you call it . Why not . Well, maybe, but she doesnt. She look at what she says about kate. You know that shes not. Shes not white or and white there. Shes not kind of, you know, out of the woods herself in not being able to say, i never do this. She, she could accentuate the positive more. I do think she should have talked about it. She has talked about it. I dont know why shes still talking about it, because what she needs to do is say , bring up the to do is say, bring up the positives. Tell that audience, yeah, we all know that theres horrible stuff, but this is the good stuff that get. This is good stuff that i get. This is the good stuff that ive seen. These people that ive these are the people that ive met great. This is show met that are great. This is show people how better rather people how to be better rather than just a the than just having a go at the people you think shes just addressing the elephant in the room also like meghan and room and also like meghan and harry are here to stay. Theyre going to of theyre going to be part of british though british culture. Even though they theyre still they live in la, theyre still going a this going to be a part of this culture. And maybe she is trying to relationship to redefine that relationship with public and just air out with the public and just air out all stuff we can all all this stuff so we can all move if you put move on. Because if you put something meghan online, something about meghan online, people going people are just instantly going to her. People dont to criticise her. People dont get what shes get bored. Yeah, but what shes doneis get bored. Yeah, but what shes done is shes criticised those women trolling her last night. Yeah, and thats just going to invite more. I mean, thats what shes got to stop. I know you say is it true . But if its on social media, how on earth would you know the gender . Hide behind all gender . They hide behind all sorts theres the sorts of notes. Theres not the real those people. Real identity of those people. So thats presumption on her part. As the token bloke on this panel as the token bloke on this panel, it important panel, i think it is important because this online misogyny debate been going on debate has been going on for years years years. What years and years and years. What if it is of the women you know they wont use the b word . What if it is women being like that . Or the women . Well, we were or the women . Well, that we were talking weve all been in or the women . Well, that we were talkplaygroundjeve all been in the playground. We how vicious other we know how vicious other women girls can be. Worked women and girls can be. I worked in newsrooms predominantly, where of men that where its a mix of men that actually help stop a lot of that, of women kind of being cliquey. And i mean, you know, i produce loose women for many years. Its too many women in one place. Theres too many women on production, theres too many women on staff. And people do a bit kind of do get cliquey and a bit kind of like, were going for lunch, but dont men dont, dont dont tell her men dont, dont act that. So good act like that. So its a good mixer. So i that can mixer. So i know that women can be all had to be very mean. Weve all had to deal all, but i dont deal with that all, but i dont engage online when you can hide it is, think, as well what it is, i think, as well what is hurtful the hurtful for meghan and the reason brought the women hurtful for meghan and the reas01up, brought the women hurtful for meghan and the reas01up, because ought the women hurtful for meghan and the reas01up, because she1t the women hurtful for meghan and the reas01up, because she said; women hurtful for meghan and the reas01up, because she said itvomen issue up, because she said it was while she was pregnant. If a woman and so if youre a woman and youve been pregnant, why would youve been pregnant, why would you another woman you then attack another woman when were you then attack another woman whefriend were you then attack another woman whefriend a were you then attack another woman whefriend a sister were you then attack another woman whefriend a sister or were you then attack another woman whefriend a sister or mum,e her friend or a sister or a mum, youd say, look at your phone. You got it. Do Something Else. Yeah, yeah. She doesnt else. Yeah, yeah. So she doesnt take but apparently they take her, but apparently they dont advice well. Take her, but apparently they dor no, advice well. Take her, but apparently they dor no, they ivice well. Take her, but apparently they dor no, they dont. Well. Take her, but apparently they dor no, they dont. And ell. Take her, but apparently they dor no, they dont. And there are no, they dont. And there are a of good comments and a lot of good comments and always been about meghan always have been about meghan because she is somebody its very press. Shes very , very easy to press. Shes very, you know, intelligent. Shes very speaks very very beautiful. She speaks very well. She has done lots of good well. She has done lots of good things. Theres lots that things. So theres lots of that there as well. But she doesnt concentrate on which makes concentrate on that, which makes it other people to. It hard for other people to. I shes the lookout i think shes on the lookout for new pr guru. For a new pr guru. Do it. Ill do it. Ill do it. Ill do it. Ill do it. Ill do it. One of the toughest jobs on the planet. Well, know, there is talk well, you know, there is talk that wants relaunch that she wants to relaunch her lifestyle so lifestyle blog, the tig. So we are has a of films are and she has a slate of films coming with netflix. So, you coming out with netflix. So, you know, is not going be know, this is not going to be the of meghan harry. The end of meghan and harry. So were to hearing about were going to be hearing about her i think maybe she her more. So i think maybe she just to out what her just needs to air out what her problems and then hopefully problems are and then hopefully who ten years from who knows, maybe ten years from now, meghan well loved now, meghan might be well loved by again. By the public again. I like your glass half full. That suze. Quick that too. Suze. We got a quick blast. A uniform. They have got a new uniform, which to involve jogging which seems to involve jogging bottoms, sweatshirts bottoms, jeans and sweatshirts and beanie now its fine. And beanie hats. Now its fine. I understand they want to be comfortable. I have no problem with being colourful, it with being colourful, but it just kind raises the question just kind of raises the question for it says they want for me, it says also they want to look reflect to create a look who reflect that are. Why that reflects who they are. Why youre at work, why cant you wear a uniform at work . What do you wear in free time . If you wear in your free time . If what youre wearing is a sweatshirt and jogging bottoms when just when youre at work . I just wonder its not. I dont wonder if its not. I dont know, is it an age thing . But are they not . Are they not really for work . If really ready for work . If theyre going to work that, theyre going to work like that, itd be spot itd be hard to spot the difference customers difference between the customers and you. And you wouldnt be serving you. Like bunch of scruffs. No they do. They do look like it a bit scruffy. I do think it is a bit scruffy. I do think when you get on a really nice airline and all the air hostesses are all with hostesses are all kind of with a little scarves and everything else, it make feel else, does it make you feel safe . Think yes, safe . I think it does, yes, i think it does. I think what you wear actually when youre at work. Quite important work. Yeah. Is quite important to kind of attitude to your mental kind of attitude and you put yourself and the way you put yourself forward. To it there weve got to leave it there whilst coughing fit. Whilst i have a coughing fit. Martin tell you whats martin will tell you whats coming up. Well be covering yeah. So well be covering all stories. Of course. All the big stories. Of course. Thank suze. Thank you steph, thank you suze. Thank you steph, we have but first, lets we have to go. But first, lets throw to your weather. Like things are heating looks like things are heating up. Sponsors up. Boxt boilers sponsors of weather gb news. Weather on gb news. Hi there and welcome to the latest forecast for gb news from the met office. Its going to be a dull weekend and a cold feel as well, with brisk easterly winds and spells of rain or showers moving across the country. We start the day with a lot of cloud cover, outbreaks of rain moving through parts of southwest england, wales, the midlands into Northern England, eventually eastern scotland, seeing showers carried in into the and were going to see the east and were going to see outbreaks of rain also arriving into eastern parts of northern ireland. Driest and brightest weather the southeast weather towards the southeast with some sunny spells. Western scotland as well and after a chilly start, things will warm up a touch , although it will up a touch, although it will stay on the cold side in the east, with the brisk wind coming from the north sea into the evening. Further spells of rain evening. Further spells of rain or showers, some heavy at times across the southwest, as well as into wales, Northern England and then the southeast, gets a bit of a soaking as a band of persistent rain moves through, and that spreads across much of the east of the uk. Overnight, a few showers continuing further west, of course, with the cloud few showers continuing further westthe course, with the cloud few showers continuing further westthe rainrse, with the cloud few showers continuing further westthe rain and nith the cloud few showers continuing further westthe rain and the the cloud few showers continuing further westthe rain and the breezeyud and the rain and the breeze overnight, its going to be mostly frost free, although there a touch frost there will be a touch of frost across western where across western scotland where we do prolonged clear do get some prolonged clear spells. An unsettled spells. But its an unsettled start tomorrow. A lot start to the day tomorrow. A lot of cloud cover spells of rain for many places, especially across scotland into much of england, east wales and northern ireland. The brightest weather, actually by the afternoon will be southwest , be across the southwest, although the potential for although still the potential for although still the potential for a and its a few showers here, and its going feel cold, with going to feel cold, with temperatures places temperatures in many places staying at 6 to celsius. Staying at 6 to 8 celsius. That feeling inside from that warm feeling inside from boxt boilers sponsors of weather on gb news. Away. Oh, sorry. Still got the cough. Oh, sorry. Still got the cough. If you were with. Ooh. If cough. If you were with. Ooh. If you were with us. Oh, look, my reminder says its mothers day tomorrow. Just in case you need reminding, too. Good morning. Its 9 00 on saturday, the 9th of march. Today, pro palestinian demonstration are set to go ahead. Despite concerns from the Counter Terror tourism tsar that london has become a no go zone for jews. Katherine forster will forjews. Katherine forster will bnng forjews. Katherine forster will bring us the latest yes. Bring us the latest yes. Rishi sunak issued an appeal last week saying dont let extremists wreck your marches. Also also asking the police to Police Events rather than manage them. Will anything be different in todays marches . Ill be reporting throughout the day. It feels like groundhog day and this comes as the head of the Foreign Affairs committee claims israel is blocking aid getting into gaza as the humanitarian crisis in the region deepens. Elsewhere in the news, Meghan Markle speaks out about social media abuse that she received whilst she was pregnant. And of course, the princess of waless uncle claims that harry and meghan should actually be stripped of their titles. Meanwhile, over the pond us President Joe Biden and donald trump are set to hold duelling rallies in georgia over the weekend. Well be looking ahead to epic clash. To that epic clash. Media mogul Rupert Murdoch is engaged now to be married at the age of 92, but how old is too old to get married . If youve got outdoor plans this weekend, its not the best weather there will be rain and showers around, but not everywhere will be wet all the time. Find the full details in the forecast coming up soon. A good morning to you. A very good morning to you. Im daubney and im anne im Martin Daubney and im anne diamond and this is breakfast on gb news. Gb news. When i wrote his i cant find anything at the moment. Weve had lots, lots, lots of views about meghan, she doesnt have divide opinion. Brenda says the divide opinion. Brenda says the royal family bent over backwards to welcome her and so did the people of britain. And all she did was complain theyve adds this stifling their Media Exposure would hopefully put them both in a dark, dusty drawer where they belong. Yeah, drawer where they belong. Yeah, the media is not going to give up on them though. I think stephanie was saying it just a few ago. They are here few minutes ago. They are here to will make to stay. They will always make headlines, wont they . Im afraid. And she meghan is one of the most famous people in the world. Theres absolutely no doubt about that. You cant. You could strip them of their titles and it would just make them more famous, think. Famous, i think. Carolyn adds indeed, and carolyn adds this. Is complaining this. So meghan is complaining once and playing the once again and playing the victim on International Womens day. Promoting the day. How about promoting the interests of women around the world are actually suffering . I think they do do that. I think they do do that. Actually. Harry and meghan, you just dont hear that doesnt make the headlines , does it . Make the headlines, does it . Sheila says if anybody has to get a pr company to promote their image, its a sad state of affairs. Theyre not even contrite they obviously feel contrite and they obviously feel entitled. If they really were entitled. If they really were serious about their image, they should stay home, stay quiet and under the radar several under the radar for several years and hope that people come around to them. And georgie adds, this meghan is a hypocrite. She talks about hate. At what the pair of hate. Look at what the pair of them have done to their families. Its disgraceful. We dont want over here dont want them back over here again because the usa has again just because the usa has sensed to possibly expel harry, gary says trolling meghan is wrong. Could you imagine if the shoe was on the other foot and someone trolled the queen and the royals . And when the queen was dying, for instance, imagine if made to if they made tv shows to do this. E of people have been and a lot of people have been making point weve said making this point and weve said it the show. D adds it throughout the show. D adds this think meghan this i think meghan is only trying up profile here in trying to up her profile here in the because if donald trump the uk because if donald trump becomes president kicks becomes the president and kicks harry out, then on earth harry out, then where on earth can go . Okay. Can they go . Okay. Well, there were rather more serious things afoot as well, because pro palestinian demonstrations are going to go ahead for the First Time Since the Counter Terrorism tsar said that certain parts of london in fact, he did say, i think london had become a no go zone forjews i thats lam thats right. This protest follows accusations by the chair of the Foreign Affairs select committee that israel is now blocking aid into gaza, and this comes as the protest group Palestine Action sprayed and slashed a historic painting of lord balfour at the university of cambridge. Yeah. Yeah. The group claims the piece symbolised the bloodshed of the Palestinian People since the Balfour Declaration in 1917. Well, joining us now is the shadow minister without portfolio, Nick Thomas Symonds and a very good morning to you. Thank you for joining and a very good morning to you. Thank you forjoining us. First thank you for joining us. First of all, your reaction to this never ending, string of marches that seem to divide people and cause hostilities and there doesnt seem to be an answer, but can you think of a political answer to this . Well, firstly, very good to join you this morning. And with regard to , the marches. Look, regard to, the marches. Look, i think we have to preserve the right to peacefully protest. I think thats a very important part of our democracy. But at part of our democracy. But at the same time, we have to , crack the same time, we have to, crack down on, racism in all its forms. We have to be very strong and tough on anti semitism and indeed, islamophobia, where it is found. And we have to make sure today that our police and our especially our frontline police, who , by the way, have to police, who, by the way, have to deal with extreme , namely deal with extreme, namely difficult judgements in fast moving situations are given the support that they need to properly police , these marches. Properly police, these marches. And i think that support for our front line police in very, very difficult situations is hugely important as well. Matter is ive been on these protests and the police are standing off their soft soaping the protesters, and that leads to situations such as when they were outside parliament the other wednesday, effectively impacting whats going on in parliament. Weve seen your own parliamentarian , sir keir parliamentarian, sir keir starmer, angela rayner, Anneliese Dodds Rachel Reeves being harassed on the streets. Surely we need to get tougher with these protesters, send out a message that this abuse will not be accepted. Not be accepted. Well, listen, it is entirely unacceptable in a democracy for parliamentarians to be, harassed, threatened and with people trying to use those sort of methods to affect the decisions they make that is totally and utterly unacceptable. In terms of the marches , i dont necessarily marches, i dont necessarily accept, though, martin, your your card raising that all Police Officers are acting in a particular way. I do Police Officers are acting in a particular way. I do think pubuc particular way. I do think public order policing is a very particular type of policing. Its very difficult. And i think that police on the front line have to be relied on to make their own operation judgements. They dont want to do things that make the immediate situation worse, but at the same time have to hold the law. Time they have to hold the law. And i think its important the Police Resources they police have the resources they need and the backing they need to do their job. But what you say about intimidation to democratic representatives, i completely agree, but its fair to say its true, to say , nick, to say its true, to say, nick, that the police are standing off as amongst the protests myself. Youre the wednesday. I was imploring officers to take down that projector that was put in that projector that was put in that the to the sea. That from the river to the sea. Message onto ben being message onto big ben and being beamed world. Images beamed around the world. Images which shame our which i believe shame our nation. Was imploring police nation. I was imploring Police Officers arrest wearing officers to arrest men wearing full face balaclavas, which is now illegal. Werent doing now illegal. They werent doing that, nick. It is fair to say the police seem to be soft soaping these protesters. Look, martin, i cant dispute, obviously, what youve seen with your own eyes when youve been out, but ive obviously been out well on obviously been out as well on the line with police the front line with Police Officers a number of years. Officers over a number of years. Actually, in various Shadow Home Office portfolios that ive held. And the point i just make is that it. And the point i just make is thatitis. And the point i just make is that it is public order. Policing is a very particular challenge for our frontline police, because there is that balance between doing something that makes the immediate disorder worse, but also upholding the law. But in terms of tackling hatred, tackling anti semitism, tackling islamophobia, we absolutely have to be doing that on our streets. There seems to be, a losing your the government. I mean, this whole country is losing confidence in the way we police certain things. And if i direct you towards the front page of the times, i dont know if youve seen the interview, but the interview is with the two mothers of the two students who were so horribly murdered in nottingham, which was when it was months ago now, wasnt it . And i mean, they feel that the police in nottinghamshire have let down. They feel they let them down. They feel they were misled the crown were misled by the crown prosecution because the Prosecution Service because the man who murdered their children, was never tried for murder and it just seems to me i was asking everyone earlier, why doesnt the home secretary just storm in there and get something done about this . Because this clearly seems to be some sort of a miscarriage of justice or a mishandling of the whole affair. What would you do . I mean, wouldnt you be the same . Youd want a home secretary who would go and something go in there and get something done fast. Done and done fast. Look, this is a harrowing crime in june of last year, and the families nobody can be but moved by seeing what the families of all three victims actually have been saying about this. And there are very serious questions for different parts of our criminal Justice System to answer. And absolutely, thats getting those answers should be a huge priority for the home secretary and indeed the justice secretary. So in regards to the police, with nottinghamshire police, for example , there was a police, for example, there was a warrant issued for the arrest of this perpetrator back in september 2022 that wasnt executed. There was there were reports of assaults, weeks before this heinous crime took place that leicestershire police, in my view, have questions to answer. Theres the questions to answer. Theres the crown Prosecution Service and the way they engaged with the victims families who, again, have questions to answer. And there are also questions for how there are also questions for how the Mental Health services that the Mental Health services that the perpetrator had engaged with had not picked up these escalations in his behaviour. So i think the families are absolutely right to ask very serious questions about how the system has operated here. And yes, we should be urgently trying to get those answers for the families because its the very least they deserve. Yeah, well said on that point, nick. Now, nick, youre also here to about renters. Also here to talk about renters. And you see the governments flagship rent reformers. Bill as being in tatters. Tell us what the labour party have planned. The labour party have planned. So first of all, in respect of this, we get we had a promise from the government five years ago to ban no fault evictions called section 21 evictions, where you have perfectly good tenants who are not behaving in any way thats detrimental to the property or their neighbours , people who are just living their lives in peace, who have to live under the potential threat of being evicted for no reason. That was a cross party position. Promised to position. Government promised to ban section 21 evictions ban these section 21 evictions five years ago. Its something. Five years ago. Its something. If it came to parliament, i doubt anybody would oppose it. Doubt anybody would oppose it. But the government continues to drag its feet and the latest thing we see is that of the 47 mps who are putting down delaying amendments , as you delaying amendments, as you know, we see that 11 of them are private landlords. So theres private landlords. So theres a vested interest here. And this is a question of leadership for the Prime Minister. Its what hes promised to do. Hes just take on these vested interests and do what we would do, which is ban these no fault evictions. Okay. Great stuff. Thanks for joining us on the show. Nick thomas simmons, always a pleasure. Thank you very much. Now they come on to talk about the rents of and we spring questions on them about marches and murder cases. But thats thats what politicians job is. Oh absolutely. Oh absolutely. Exactly my only thats exactly my only further question would have been to say to him at the moment, why would want to would anyone want to be a politician . It just to me politician . It just seems to me there many problems politician . It just seems to me there at many problems politician . It just seems to me there at the1any problems politician . It just seems to me there at the moment. Ems politician . It just seems to me there at the moment. And around at the moment. And theyre theyre theyre big problems. Theyre ones insoluble. Ones that look almost insoluble. Well, would you be polit . Well, why would you be a polit . Why would want to be why would you want to be a politician . But i wouldnt unless youre gifted unless youre very gifted and you ways of trying to you have got ways of trying to sort out. Sort things out. But thing i keep talking but one thing i keep talking about come took the about is how come it took the parliamentarians to long wake parliamentarians so to long wake up to the mob on the streets . Weve weve seen the mob, for example, the Batley Grammar School has almost been School Teacher has almost been three in hiding. You know, three years in hiding. You know, everywhere zone for everywhere is a no go zone for him. Seem have him. They only seem to have woken to the mob on the woken up to the mob on the streets they on streets when they knocked on their door at parliament, their door over at parliament, dont their door over at parliament, doryes, thats true. Yes, thats true. Yes, thats true. Dont you think that, maybe some maybe a lot of politicians hope the problem go away hope the problem will go away before have to actually before they have to actually address it . Think that is wishful well, i think that is Wishful Thinking very best. And thinking at the very best. And total heartedness the total full heartedness at the worst cowardice. It is. Worst is cowardice. It is. Thats what it is. Thats the word. Thats what it is. Thats the worwell, heard what well, youve heard what labour therefore think about those but those housing problems. But thats just the rental market. Because in the Home Ownership market its even worse. Yeah. What if i told you that the average First Time Buyer would now to take would now have to take a mortgage out for half a century to achieve the same of to achieve the same level of affordable renee, and its getting the mortgage in the first place, too. Recent Interest Rate rises have seen loans plummet, with the smallest number of mortgages handed out to First Time Buyers since 2013. Yeah, well, here in the studio discuss now is studio to discuss this now is independent north London Estate Agency leaf. Agency owner jeremy leaf. Jeremy, thank you for joining us. We talk about housing all the time, in particular the lack of it. Well when are we going to get a government that actually cuts through the red tape, stops listening to the nimbys and starts blaming, well, building . Yeah, its not quite as simple as the building. Its getting more properties into use. I mean, the Biggest Issue and i there is consensus, and i think there is consensus, as said earlier , is enough as nick said earlier, is enough Affordable Homes to buy and to rent and thats it. Does every policy pass that test or not . Its not just, for instance , a its not just, for instance, a lot of talk has been about planning, a lot of talk about the section 21. Its delivering those properties, those properties which have obtained planning. Its making sure that, okay, we take away section 21. Its not a good idea because people can just be turfed out of their houses if theyve been living there for several years without fault. Of course thats wrong. But but at the same time, and this, i think, what the government are trying to create this balance on that particular issue make sure that issue is to make sure that theres still enough Properties Available , because available to rent, because whats going to happen otherwise, rents are just going to up. To keep going up. And i must say, i suppose we all witness fact that our all witness the fact that our high around high streets and areas around cities are changing. There seem to be so many high rise blocks just going up like mushrooms and yet when you actually see them being advertised for sale or rent , the prices are astronomic. Rent, the prices are astronomic. Theyre never Affordable Homes we see being built there unaffordable ones. Absolutely, absolutely. Well, there are policies in place that proportion of those homes which are built are supposed to be affordable for local people. Affordable for local people. Both the main parties have picked up on these points. Theyre using each others policies and shouting out about them. And thats absolutely fine. But as i just said to martin, its whats happening on the ground. Its all very well ticking boxes and saying, yes, we and that, but are we built this and that, but are they delivered and they being delivered and are they being delivered and are they fit and affordable for local there local people, and is there a high enough proportion of them as absolutely. Its just as well . Absolutely. Its just weve of things weve got plenty of good things who they can make an who think they can make an absolute building absolute fortune by building expensive flats and apartments and houses, but are and houses, but is there are there enough affordable houses in amongst them . Because we all know, well, because we all know, jeremy, that Affordable Housing well, because we all know, jerany, that Affordable Housing well, because we all know, jera proportion ordable housing well, because we all know, jera proportion ofiable housing well, because we all know, jera proportion of a le housing well, because we all know, jera proportion of a unit ousing well, because we all know, jera proportion of a unit is sing as a proportion of a unit is a tick box exercise so they can get planning permission. And anyway, half these are bought off plan by landlords who off of plan by landlords who want to rent them out. Is a proper solution. A nationwide programme of social house building. A lot of people watching this show know theyll be happy about fact be very happy about the fact theyre buy their theyre able to buy their council right to buy Council House the right to buy scheme in the day, but it scheme back in the day, but it did the stock. And did deplete the stock. And meanwhile, been meanwhile, which has never been made, up. Made, never been made up. Is that the answer . Social housing. Made, never been made up. Is tha thatsnswer . Social housing. Made, never been made up. Is tha thats oneer . Social housing. Made, never been made up. Is tha thats one of social housing. Made, never been made up. Is tha thats one of theial housing. Made, never been made up. Is tha thats one of the answers. |g. Thats one of the answers. Its bigger problem. Its part of a bigger problem. But for instance, you but you see, for instance, you say about landlords coming in and up stock and and buying up this stock and making it unavailable for other people. Of the larger people. But some of the larger schemes are financed schemes actually are financed because buy off plan because people buy off plan initially. Yeah. Ordinary people initially. Yeah. Ordinary people in street cant get longer in the street cant get longer terms mortgages because the lenders wont say, well, well give a mortgage for a year or some. The maximum is about six months in advance of when its ready. So need people who ready. So they need people who perhaps got funding, who perhaps have got funding, who can a proportion can buy up a proportion which would to the rest of would help to fund the rest of the its, its more about the stock. Its, its more about enforcement of whats there. Its about that as its just as much about that as getting new policies ready. Wise words a lovely tie wise words and a lovely tie by way. On wise words and a lovely tie by way. Oh thank you, jeremy by the way. Oh thank you, jeremy leaf, much for leaf, thanks very much for joining show today. Joining us on the show today. Okay. We catch up with okay. Shall we catch up with the heres aidan the weather now heres aidan mcgivern. Looks like things are heating up. Boxt boilers sponsors of up. Boxt boilers sponsors of weather on gb news. Hi there and welcome to the latest forecast for gb news from the met office. Its going to be a dull weekend and a cold feel as well, with brisk easterly winds and spells of rain or showers moving across the country. We start the day with a lot of cloud cover, outbreaks of rain moving through parts of southwest england, the southwest england, wales, the midlands into Northern England, eventually eastern scotland, seeing showers carried in into the east and were going to see outbreaks of rain also arriving into eastern parts of northern ireland. Driest and brightest weather southeast weather towards the southeast with some sunny spells. Western scotland well and after scotland as well and after a chilly start, things will warm up a touch , although it will up a touch, although it will stay on the cold side in the east, with the brisk wind coming from the north sea into the evening. Further spells of rain evening. 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And this protest follows accusations by the chair of the Foreign Affairs select committee that israel is now blocking aid into gaza. Well, joining us now from glasgow is gb news scotland reporter tony maguire, which of course reminds us that the demonstrations arent just happening in london, are they, tony . I tony . I mean, where are they going to happen in scotland . To happen in scotland . Good morning. Yes. Well today is weve seen quite often over the last few months. Theres going to be protests happening all across scotland here in glasgow today at 12 00, protesters will arrive in George Square at the heart of the city outside the Glasgow City Council offices. And there will also be protests happening around aberdeen, edinburgh and dundee from the late morning through to the early afternoon. Now, quite the early afternoon. Now, quite often in these protests, we have heard quite a lot of the chanting and that from the river to the sea that was recently beamed on to big ben. And i hate to tell you, martin, if youre looking for perhaps motorists up in scotland and thats very unlikely to be the case as Police Scotland this week have announced that without cctv, cctv or photographic evidence of crimes, then theyre actually going to be processing a lot less charges and following up on crimes than they used to due to funding cuts and protests is certainly one of those areas where a lot of people are are questioning how effective the police are in scotland now. Todays protest comes against a backdrop of another largely connected story, and that is humza yousaf having to come out swinging in defence of a donation that he made to relief in gaza last year. On november 2nd last year, the first minister, he donated quarter of £1 million to the unrwa , which £1 million to the unrwa, which is a highly controversial agency and operates in gaza. And they have come under accusations in the past of having various hamas members working within their organisation. Ian and now humza organisation. Ian and now humza yousaf. He has called these allegations, which were published in a story in the telegraph , completely ludicrous telegraph, completely ludicrous and absolutely untrue , that and absolutely untrue, that there was a conflict of interest based out of the fact that he went ahead with the donation instead of listening to government advisers and his fellow ministers to donate around 100,000 to 200,000 to the un, instead said he donated the money from the scottish relief fund to the un rwa. And obviously thats caused quite a ruffled, sorry, that is ruffled quite a lot of feathers, up here now , today we are expecting, you now, today we are expecting, you know, the usual several thousand and hour protests up here. I would love to say we do love a good bridge up in scotland , but good bridge up in scotland, but certainly none of them are closed down as the result of these protests. The protesters will meet here in the middle of the city. But absolutely, those those rants, those anti semitic chants which many find offensive , offensive, and quite often the majority of the public tend to stay away from the protests and lets just hope the weather holds out for everybody concerned here in glasgow. Okay, tony maguire, thanks for joining us live from glasgow. Amazing isnt it, that humza gives quarter of humza yousaf gives a quarter of £1 million to gaza . You might think more about glasgow think he care more about glasgow than gaza. And what do i know . Lets to studio now. Lets move back to studio now. Get thoughts of political get the thoughts of political commentator spencer. Commentator Peter Spencer. Peter, welcome to the show. Its always a pleasure. Its groundhog day, gaza, groundhog day, here we go its day, here we go again. Its saturday, another massive protest. Theyve been divisive jewish people are afraid to leave their homes. Anybody who goes out there and challenges them as i did, gets pelted with eggs and abuse and fluids and worse. Surely now were at the point. As James Cleverly said, youve made your point. Its time to stop. Time to stop. Well, the awful thing is that its very likely time for things to get a whole lot worse. When you consider the fact that ramadan now looms. And theres the threat from the israeli authorities to actually get the tanks, tanks trundling into rafah, at which point the humanitarian disaster thats already unfolding in, in, in, in, in, in gaza could turn into a humanitarian catastrophe, at which point those inflamed emotions are likely to get one whole lot worse. Yeah and you cant see a solution ehhen and you cant see a solution either, can you . Either, can you . No, you cant, not least because of the fact that Binyamin Netanyahu , the israeli Binyamin Netanyahu, the israeli Prime Minister, has set his face against a two state solution, which, of course, is the ultimate prize. Well, youve got two sets of people who have vowed to destroy each other. Yes, precisely. And so it is incredibly difficult for its incredibly difficult for its incredibly difficult for the police. Its incredibly difficult for the politicians are pretty much all stripes. And are pretty much all stripes. And i note that the government is thinking about tightening up the definition of extremism. But definition of extremism. But here again, they run into enormous problems because if they come up with a particular formula, they might formula. They might find that theyve also caught feminists who are concerned about transgender rights , or christians who are rights, or christians who are concerned about abortion or gay marriages. And so getting the wording right is going to be incredibly tricky. Lets face it, though, peter Benjamin Netanyahu wont listen to a mob on the streets of london. No, he wont listen to a mob on the streets of glasgow. No, he wont listen to the united or red cross. United nations or the red cross. He, at the very he, hes he said at the very beginning, we have a right to defend and destroy defend ourselves and destroy those to defend us. Those who wish to defend us. None this makes a single bit none of this makes a single bit of difference. It of difference. So whats it actually about . Is about actually about . Is it about calling for ceasefire or is it calling for a ceasefire or is it about else . Is about Something Else . Is it about Something Else . Is it about to influence and about trying to influence and change british politics . And weve seen already votes changing in the chamber as a consequence of the mob outside. Weve seen parliamentarians stepping down from office. Mike freer afraid his office was firebombed. Death threats left, right and centre. This conflict in the middle east is now poisoning british streets. Its poisoning british streets. Its poisoning streets in a great many capitals and a great many cities across the world, because it is hideous and it is brutal, and it is poisoning israels relationship with other countries. With other countries. Oh, most certainly. I mean, i mean, you only have to look at President Bidens totally changed his stance. Lord, David Cameron saying the same thing, more or less, you know, were going youre not seeing our point of view on this. Were going have to take other going to have to take other measures , witness the fact that measures, witness the fact that that is going to that President Biden is going to try this sort of weird try and put this sort of weird pontoon aid off the shore pontoon type, aid off the shore of gaza. So netanyahu is losing political allies. He most certainly is. I mean, is reported that joe biden has said some extremely uncomplimentary things about him. And its also worth noting that we talk about mobs on the street here. Well, theres a great deal of dissent within israel itself about his position. And i mean, up to a point, one could argue hes having having sort of allowed and the initial hamas atrocity to take place. He has to hes got to win. Otherwise hes going to be out. Hes got his own political future to consider. And so at this stage , i have to and so at this stage, i have to say, things are looking extremely bleak and theyre likely to become a great deal more bleak. And as you rightly say, Binyamin Netanyahu is fast running out of friends. Okay, Peter Spencer, thanks for joining us. No doubt well forjoining us. No doubt well be having the same conversation in another months time. Thank you very much. Now, a completely 932 now, to a completely different problem to solve. Xl bully dogs are now the third most stolen breed in the uk and across the uk. Dog thefts are up 6 year on year and the last year, with just over 200 dogs being stolen. Now there are reports saying that adult xl bully dogs have been sold on the black market for 15 grand, 15,000 puppies and puppies for some £5,000. I think its actually 2000 dogs that have been stolen, not 200. And joining us now to discuss this is pet detective and Police Liaison officer wayne may to tell us more. Wayne, welcome to the studio. Thank you very much. This is a serious topic, and it really, really impacts people emotionally when their dog is stolen, a part of their dog is stolen, a part of their life is stolen. Yet its going through the roof. Yes it. To be honest, its always been a serious problem and year on year, we get an increase in dog thefts across the country and theyre getting higher and higher and impacting families , everywhere. And its surprising when you look at the breeds on this list. Like, i would have thought, small dogs , you can almost stick small dogs, you can almost stick in your jacket, but the breeds that are being stolen are quite different. They are . Yeah. I spoke to direct pet insurance direct line pet insurance earlier on this week, and the latest show that, pugs, latest figures show that, pugs, french bulldogs and american el xl bullies, are the top three are stolen over the last year, obviously , when the data was obviously, when the data was collected wasnt where there was going to be a ban on xl bullies, however, at the time, the criminal fraternity capitalised on the amount that these dogs are being sold for. So if you can imagine a dog being sold between 5 and £10,000, and with the xl bullies colour variations demanded higher prices , the demanded higher prices, the thieves capitalised on this and they stole your dogs to have a resale or to breed from. I mean, as martin said, youd expect the ones that are being stolen would be little fluffy things the ive got who things like the one ive got who would anyone. It cant be would go to anyone. It cant be easy steal xl bully dog. Easy to steal an xl bully dog. In theory, no. But the people that steal these dogs are doing it all the time, and theyre doing it industrially , arent doing it industrially, arent they . Im quite aware that, you know, theyre jumping into your garden and taking the dog within seven you know, weve seven seconds. You know, weve got footage that we got cctv footage that we submitted to the to show submitted to the police, to show this, you know, theyre so adept, at doing you know , adept, at doing it, you know, dunng adept, at doing it, you know, during the pandemic was looking at criminal gangs. Now were looking opportunistic. Looking at opportunistic. Need to ask you quickly, i need to ask you quickly, wayne, we to stop wayne, what can we do to stop this, keep your shorts up. State michael details up to Michael Crick details up to date, and the law has to change, unfortunately, if you have your dog today, its the dog stolen today, its the equivalent having your equivalent to having your microwave or your Mountain Bike stolen, you get a crime reference number. Police dont. And thats it. And, you know, if you get caught stealing a dog, get a slap on the wrist, what needs to change the actual needs to change is the actual law. Its own right. Law. Crime in its own right. Tomorrow i can go and, like, get, like for like for my Mountain Bike, i can i replace my dog . No. You cant. No, not if its a much loved pet. Great stuff. Wayne may, thank you for joining great stuff. Wayne may, thank you forjoining us and highlighting an important issue. Cheers, mate. Appreciate it. Its 935. Heres a big okay. Its 935. Heres a big one. How old is too old to get married . Well be answering that question. Well, well be trying to next. Hello again 939. And youre watching and listening to breakfast this morning with anne and martin. Yeah now, here we go. From one media mogul, Rupert Murdoch. Plans to marry his girlfriend, elena zhukova, at the grand old age of 92. Yes, theyve made the official announcement that they are engaged. Now, a lot of people think that murdoch is actually too old to be getting married again. Others say married again. But others say that if it makes him that if they if it makes him happy, why shouldnt they . Age shouldnt be a barrier. Yeah been asking today, and weve been asking today, can simply too old to tie can you be simply too old to tie the knot . Well, joining us now is celebrity divorce lawyer Vanessa Lloyd plat. Very good morning to you , vanessa. How long do you you, vanessa. How long do you how long you give this one then. Well, if he wants to be like henry the eighth, not long, because this will be his fifth marriage. And if he wants to get in a final sixth one, then not long. But he is going to be 93 on monday. So long. But he is going to be 93 on monday. So hes long. But he is going to be 93 on monday. So hes actually on monday. So hes actually going to be marrying when hes 93 years of age. But good luck to the guy , he can afford to pay to the guy, he can afford to pay the divorce settlement. So why not . I mean, as a divorce lawyer, of course i would question why he needs to get married again. Why didnt he just live with her, but, you know, each to their own. And if thats what makes him happy, he obviously likes having a wife on his arm. Yeah, i mean, id be a bit concerned myself, as i keep saying about making it through the at 93. You the wedding night at 93. You know, youve be careful, know, youve got to be careful, but, you be be a good way but, you know, be be a good way to go. I you go with to go. I guess you go with a smile on your face, but on a serious it has serious point, it has implications the family as implications for the family as well, doesnt it . Because, as you its like what you said, its like what attracted the attracted you to the multi millionaire Rupert Murdoch . Know that we murdoch . The kids know that we raising their eyebrows about what it might mean for the wonga i well, emma well, they have in the past. And course hes got six and of course hes got six children, and three of the children, and three of the children that he had from his marriage, from anna torv, objected like mad to the children, from wendi deng having a share of the asset, so there is going to be some consternation in the family about why is he doing this again and what will it mean for them . And is he going to give any shares or any Voting Rights to his new wife to be, what is the implications now that Rupert Murdoch is a very clever man . Hes not silly. And he will more than probably have a prenup where he determines quite clearly what will happen if, god forbid, this one goes wrong, with wendi deng, the prenup he had with her said that she would get 1 million for every year of marriage. Well, hes not going to have many years to pay out, is he . Lets face it. Is he . Lets face it. But i mean, famously , hes, but i mean, famously, hes, hes a businessman, and it was always said, wasnt it, that Aristotle Onassis went into his marriage with Jackie Kennedy . Not so much about romance , but not so much about romance, but it was sort of like a business deal it was sort of like a business deal. And i just wonder if Rupert Murdoch is a businessman when it comes to these women he wants to marry or whether hes an old softie at heart, he might be an old softie. He does fall in love very easily , but unlike henry the easily, but unlike henry the eighth, he doesnt dispatch them with cutting off their heads, etc, he sends emails to end the relationship. Well, he certainly did when it came to jerry hall. I think there is consternation amongst the Family Members. They want their dad to be happy, of course, and he retired as the main person in in news corp and handed over to lachlan. But theres still concern what will this mean . But he will have a prenup. There is absolutely no doubt about it. And shes a very wealthy lady in her own right, not as wealthy as him , but she not as wealthy as him, but she also has a lot of very important connections. And hes a man who connections. And hes a man who loves connections. So is that loves connections. So is that the reason . We dont know. He dispatched the engaged lady that he was engaged to anna smith. And leslie smith. Sorry. Very quickly , because he felt her quickly, because he felt her potentially her religious views were too much for him. But i think a lot of family objection to that one and the family seem to that one and the family seem to be okay with him getting married, but im sure they will drag him off to the nearest Lawyers Office to make sure there is a watertight prenup. There is a watertight prenup. So, vanessa, i dont know if youre connected to the murdoch camp, but £1 million a year. Im starting see the appeal. If starting to see the appeal. If this one doesnt, doesnt last. I think id like to marry mr murdoch myself. What do you reckon . I wouldnt, would you, vanessa . Hes tight. Darling but hes a lovely man. Hes very, very intelligent. And he does fall in love all the time. And its quite sweet if youre a romantic. I know. I mean, i think at 92, why not . If youve still got that twinkle in your eye, you know why not . For heavens sake . Its better than being lonely. And as you said at the beginning, he probably just loves to have a lovely woman on his arm, doesnt he . Does. He has it does. And he probably has a portable defibrillator with him. He goes as well. Him. Wherever he goes as well. All right. Great bit of fun. Thanks joining us. Celebrity thanks forjoining us. Celebrity divorce excellent divorce lawyer. Excellent vanessa thank you Vanessa Lloyd platt. Thank you very much. Great fun. Yeah. Yeah. There you are. Sorry if you can hear my stomach rumbling, which probably because which you probably could because you apparently you could yesterday. Apparently it over there can you hear it over there i can yeah, i was just was can yeah, i was just i was trying to be polite, but. Well, you might as well own up. Youve got a cheese i think youve got a cheese sandwich down. Youre that i did. It has helped. Could yes. And it has helped. Could do a big breakfast. Up do with a big breakfast. Fry up now. Looking now. Yeah. And youre looking forward down pub, forward to a pint down the pub, arent you . Forward to a pint down the pub, areiimou . Forward to a pint down the pub, areiim going for a pint anyway. Im going for a pint anyway. Im going for a pint anyway. With us, because do stay with us, because stephanie and aidan magee Stephanie Takyi and aidan magee will in studio will be in the studio for a round up of all the sports and show Business News coming in show Business News coming up in a moment. Welcome back 948. Were on the final furlong. Youre the final furlong. Youre watching and listening to breakfast with anne and martin. Yes and stephanie and aidan have joined us, and thats lovely to see you. I just wondered what you thought, because weve been talking about it all through the break about rupert break as well. Is about Rupert Murdoch married at 92, murdoch getting married at 92, is too is even icky is that too old . Is it even icky to think about romance at the age of 92 . No. I think romance should be no. I think romance should be with you until the day you die. I dont think theres any age limit where you should get married stop getting married. Married or stop getting married. But murdoch, fifth but with Rupert Murdoch, fifth time, its a bit too much, i think. A long life. You know, after 2 or 3 times he must just realise. Look, marriage doesnt work for me and hes quite wealthy. So instance, quite wealthy. So for instance, quite wealthy. So for instance, quite wealthy. Yeah. It doesnt wealthy. Yeah. If it doesnt work with woman, hes work out with this woman, hes going to pay her off. So going to have to pay her off. So i just in that sense, i just think in that sense, i dont agree with him getting married sense where married in the sense where clearly wants to be married. I mean, as Vanessa Lloyd platt was the lawyer , platt was saying, the lawyer, she was saying he obviously wants married because she wants to be married because she would why you would have said, why dont you just together . He just live together . Yeah, he likes married, but he likes being married, but he doesnt him. Doesnt work for him. You that. He. You say that. He. You say that. I his marriages have lasted. He might just need. He might just need a wedding for a partner a for different partner or a wife for different phases i always phases of his life. I always think you get married in think that if you get married in your mid twenties something, your mid twenties or something, then really then youve got to be really lucky to. For your interests and your views your outlook your views and your your outlook on stay aligned on life to stay aligned for 70 odd thats asking a odd years. Yeah, thats asking a hell of a lot, especially in this day and age. Yeah, thats the problem. But i do give kudos to him in the sense where hes holding up traditional values he does traditional values and he does want make their want to kind of make their wedding eyes wedding legal. And in the eyes of thats of god, i think thats a beautiful thing theres beautiful thing to theres a certain merit in though, that that phrase. But definition of but the definition of insanity , yeah, doing the insanity, yeah, is doing the same thing expecting same thing and expecting a different outcome. Ive known, ive known, well, ive known, ive known, ive instances in the ive known instances in the premier wont mention premier league. I wont mention names. Was names. Yeah, but there was a player was going a bit player who was going a bit wayward career. They got wayward in his career. They got him back on the straight him back on the on the straight and but they it and narrow, but they said it would only be short time thing would only be a short time thing unless got married. Was unless he got married. There was a Board Meeting at premier league about 20 League Football club about 20 years x a wife years ago. Find player x a wife and they it. They found and they did it. And they found and they did it. And they found a who was six years older a woman who was six years older than him. Hes now married with with theyve been with four children. Theyve been together probably absolutely worked. He went on to play for england and he would been england and he would have been i dont not happened. Dont he had that not happened. People who tell me people in the know who tell me they him tell me he they know him tell me that he wouldnt, he probably would have ended ive ended up in non league. Ive heard older people heard ive heard older people say you know, that say that, you know, what that young is to get young man needs is to get married and a couple of kids. This is a classic responsibility. This is a case in point. Seriously yeah. Wonder found and i wonder how they found her introduced them her and how they introduced them and made it happen. In the players it happened in the players lounge after the next. Next lounge after the next. The next match married into money. 0h. Oh. She was she was wealthy. She was she was wealthy. She was she was wealthy. She was. And they they needed someone. They said, right. She i dont the exact dont want to use the exact word, exact words they used word, the exact words they used by or. No. Exactly. And i by fame or. No. Exactly. And i mean, its actually short mean, its actually a short terme the actual terme thing as well. The actual football he by, football he was, he was done by, by time he was 35. Hes a by the time he was 35. Hes a very short career. However, they needed i needed somebody specifically. I wont the wont use the exact words, the terminology but it terminology they use, but it said wanted who said they wanted someone who wasnt any wasnt going to take any nonsense him. And i nonsense from him. Yes. And i tell what, i saw them in the tell you what, i saw them in the Trafford Centre many years later. Worked. Later. I thought that worked. Think can imagine we can i think we can imagine we can probably in blanks and probably fill in the blanks and imagine to talk imagine that we have to talk about markle. Yes, about Meghan Markle. Yes, absolutely. Hundreds and hundreds in. Hundreds of comments coming in. Imagine its the imagine fantasy be its the meghan say. Fair to say. Fair to say. You know shes moaning you know shes been moaning once again about getting abused this international this time on International Womens yeah, womens day. Beau biden. Yeah, and are worlds and the comments are the worlds smallest get life . Smallest violins get a life . Yeah, its meghan, you yeah, well its meghan, you know, a very fractured know, she has a very fractured relationship with the public. And she knows that and you know, she knows that even if she doesnt go on social media, she knows that people are talking and sometimes media, she knows that people are talk should and sometimes media, she knows that people are talk should address. Nd sometimes media, she knows that people are talk should address thisometimes media, she knows that people are talk should address this andtimes she should address this and maybe there are some people whove criticised meghan online whove criticised meghan online who before they who might now think before they press send on a or an press send on a tweet or an instagram post, because, again, this is she is a human being. She goes through Mental Health, but some people brings but some people say she brings it herself. It on herself. Well, yes. I think you constantly see her talking about Mental Health issues. Quite rightly so, yes. But the worst thing she could have done for her health, especially her Mental Health, especially when pregnant , was when she was pregnant, was engage this nonsense on engage with all this nonsense on social media. Are you ever going yeah. How are you ever going to in that situation . Yeah. To win in that situation . Yeah. You got strangers you know, youve got strangers just theyre an just feeling theyre in an environment think environment where they think its feels its perfectly okay. She feels hated and out. Hated and got out. Shes reading those if shes reading those horrible, tweets, aiden horrible, horrible tweets, aiden could point out to a could i just point out to a fellow on the panel fellow gentleman on the panel whats fascinating for me whats really fascinating for me is International Mens is that on International Mens day vast majority day came out, the vast majority of shes been getting has of abuse shes been getting has been women. Of abuse shes been getting has beei women. Of abuse shes been getting has beei know women. Of abuse shes been getting has beei know , women. Of abuse shes been getting has beei know , i women. Of abuse shes been getting has beei know , i know men. Of abuse shes been getting has beei know , i know well, i mean, i know, i know well, i mean, look, i remember im making a mistake myself on in a previous role. A bit of a gaffe. It role. Its a bit of a gaffe. It wasnt anything serious. Wasnt anything too serious. Its of thing. But its more of a funny thing. But its more of a funny thing. But i i just remember for two i mean, i just remember for two days the heat got for im not days the heat i got for im not even big social and even big on social media. And yet just the abuse that came in, people, just like people, people just felt like they couple of they owned me for a couple of days could say whatever days and they could say whatever they eventually i they wanted, and eventually i should and that should just switch off. And that was women and anything was for men, women and anything in between. Course she does. She but of course she does. She doesnt have engage it, doesnt have to engage with it, but her social but she does need her social media of course. Shes preparing get back shes preparing to get back in limelight with her blog, in the limelight with her blog, and her harry have and she knows her and harry have and she knows her and harry have a slate of projects coming up. She is going to in public she is going to be in the public eye, she eye, so she in that sense, she does to what shes does need to say what shes thinking and hopefully she thinking about and hopefully she can put it to bed. But clearly you, based your comments, you you, based on your comments, you shouldnt read it. You said earlier. Its what you said earlier. Martin, not passively martin, you do it not passively the you are the other way. You are. You are broadcasting you broadcasting it, but you dont have read what comes back. Have to read what comes back. What nigel well, thats what nigel farage always he gets farage has always said. He gets so abuse. All he does so much abuse. All he ever does is projects outwards, never reads never reads any replies. No, never replies, with anybody replies, engages with anybody below the line. Just put it out and ignore it. Surely thats what she should be saying, especially women. Especially to young women. Said than you easier said than done, you know, even of us here on know, even for all of us here on tv, sometimes you do get curious to find what people are saying. Everyone wants validation as well. Everyone wants validation as welits you know, you its normal, you know, you just to go through it. Just want to go through it. Sometimes hard sometimes its hard just to totally switch think. Totally switch off, i think. Think easy, dont i think its easy, i dont know. Just have to know. I suppose you just have to be, disciplined enough not to read it because they always say, dont believe your own publicity, dont they . So dont believe lovely, wonderful believe the lovely, wonderful stuff that in and equally stuff that comes in and equally dont horrible dont believe the horrible stuff. Exactly just dont read. Sport, theres an old in sport, theres an old adage, know, never quite adage, you know, you never quite as people think you are. As good as people think you are. You never quite bad as people you never quite as bad as people think are either. I think think you are either. I think thats very, very, very pertinent in an era when pertinent now in in an era when mental is spoken about. Mental health is spoken about. So much. W so much. Mothers day well, its mothers day tomorrow. Thats tomorrow. So tomorrow, thats what to talk about what we all want to talk about a fair if youve got fair amount. If youve got any interesting let interesting plans, then do let us us know. Yeah, im us know. Let us know. Yeah, im gonna try and try and get it over and done with and watch forest and brighton. Hes gonna get he wants yeah, hes gonna get he wants to mothers over to get mothers day over and done with really early so he can go pub and watch the go down the pub and watch the forest yeah. Forest do their thing. Yeah. Bring it down the bring it, bring it down the booze. Yeah. Anyway, we. Anyway, we. Well, thats it from us, but we join you again tomorrow we will join you again tomorrow morning, ellie morning, peter and ellie are here getting up, here just getting limbered up, taking social media pictures. Be with you in actually, ill be with you in a moment. A brighter outlook with boxt solar , sponsors of weather on. Solar, sponsors of weather on. Gb news. Hi there and welcome to the latest forecast for gb news from the met office. Its going to be a dull weekend and a cold feel as well, with brisk easterly winds and spells of rain or showers moving across the country. We start the day with a lot of cloud cover, outbreaks of rain moving through parts of southwest england, wales, the midlands into Northern England, eventually eastern scotland, seeing into eventually eastern scotland, seeieast into eventually eastern scotland, seeieast and into eventually eastern scotland, seeieast and were into eventually eastern scotland, seeieast and were going into eventually eastern scotland, seeieast and were going to to eventually eastern scotland, seeieast and were going to see the east and were going to see outbreaks of rain also arriving into eastern parts of northern ireland. Driest and brightest weather the south east weather towards the south east with some sunny spells. Western scotland as well and after a chilly start, things will warm up a touch , although it will up a touch, although it will stay on the cold side in the east, with the brisk wind coming from the north sea into the evening. Further spells of rain evening. Further spells of rain or showers, some heavy at times across the southwest, as well as into wales, england and into wales, Northern England and then the south east, gets a bit of a soaking as a band of persistent rain moves through, and that spreads across much of the east of the uk. Overnight, a few showers continuing further west, of course, with the cloud and the rain and the breeze overnight, its going be overnight, its going to be mostly frost free, although there touch of frost there will be a touch of frost across where across western scotland where we do clear do get some prolonged clear spells. Unsettled spells. But its an unsettled start to the day tomorrow. A lot of cloud cover spells of rain for many places, especially across scotland, much of across scotland, into much of england, east wales and northern ireland. The brightest weather actually by the afternoon will be across southwest, be across the southwest, although potential for although still the potential for although still the potential for a and its a few showers here and its going feel cold with going to feel cold with temperatures many places temperatures in many places staying at 6 to 8 celsius. Looks like things are heating up. Boxt boilers sponsors of gb news. Good morning. Im peter andre, alongside ellie costello, and this is saturday morning live. And a massive hi to my father whos watching in australia. Whats name . Whats his name . Whats his name . Savvas. Savva savvas. Savva good morning to you or good night to you. I should say thats exactly right. Good night. It is. Good night. It is. Good night. Well, good night you, oh, well, good night to you, but morning the rest of but good morning to the rest of you. Really good to all of you. Really good to have all of your morning. Weve your company this morning. Weve got packed show for got an action packed show for you. Going all you. Were going to have all of the with our the days top stories with our superstar the superstar panel. Weve got the former winner, former apprentice winner, mani swindells comedian tommy swindells and comedian tommy sandhu us morning, sandhu with us this morning, and theyre already off theyre already being told off by floor for being