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Bedfordshire police, examined more than 100 murders and abductions linked to that unit, while stakeknife is widely believed to have been a west belfast man who was 77 when he died last year, solicitor kevin winters, who represents a number of the victims families, says the agent needs to be identified officially. Officially. The decision not to name Freddie Scappaticci as the agent stakeknife has been difficult for many to accept the legal and tactical rationale for doing so will be lost on many people, particularly next of kin of those murdered. Those murdered. In other news, George Galloway has said that he has hundreds of candidates ready to run at the next general election. The leader of the Workers Party of britain was sworn into parliament on monday following his by election win last week. His by election win last week. While speaking to neil oliver, the mp said his success in rochdale was the straw that broke the camels back. Broke the camels back. The spread of candidates , the spread of candidates, challengers, new parties, independent candidates and so on is now proceeding like wildfire. If i tell you that i have now in my pocket, more than 300 prospective parliamentary candidates, all paying their own candidates, all paying their own election expenses, by the way, election expenses, by the way, because we cant pay them more because we cant pay them more than 300 Workers Party than 300 Workers Party parliamentary candidates. Parliamentary candidates. Imagine that. Imagine that. Well, you can see that full well, you can see that full interview with George Galloway interview with George Galloway on youtube and online at on youtube and online at gbnews. Com tonight from 9 p. M. Gbnews. Com tonight from 9 p. M. And then again on sunday with and then again on sunday with neil oliver at 6 p. M. If you neil oliver at 6 p. M. If you miss it in other news, the miss it in other news, the education secretary says that education secretary says that she would have probably punched she would have probably punched rude ofsted staff after hearing rude ofsted staff after hearing about a school inspection. In about a school inspection. In about a school inspection. In addressing school and college about a school inspection. In addressing school and college leaders, Gillian Keegan says she leaders, Gillian Keegan says she was shocked to hear about some was shocked to hear about some peoples experiences , and peoples experiences peoples experiences, and sources close to the mp say her was shocked to hear about some peoples experie the; was shocked to hear about some peoples experie the mp say her off the cuff comments during a q sources close to the mp say her off the cuff comments during a q and a were meant to be and a were meant to be light hearted and were not a light hearted and were not a threat of violence. Threat of violence. Ive heard from my own, you ive heard from my own, you know , my own constituency. Know, my own constituency. People i recently people say i had recently actually a fantastic school i went into and they said they told me how the officer had, you know, they were ofsted experience had gone and i was shocked. I mean, i was actually shocked. I mean, i was actually shocked. I mean, i was actually shocked. I thought, god, if id have these people, id have have met these people, id have probably punched were probably punched them. They were really finally, historic and finally, a historic painting damaged by a painting has been damaged by a group of pro palestinian activists at Cambridge University this afternoon. If youre watching on tv, you can see here footage showing that painting of the former prime minister, lord balfour. Painting of the former prime minister, lord balfour. Theyre minister, lord balfour. Theyre being red paint being sprayed with red paint before slashed apart. The before being slashed apart. The governments adviser on Political Violence and disruption has described that demonstration as outrageous. And demonstration as outrageous. And he said senseless. But the pro Palestine Action group claims that the piece symbolised bloodshed of the Palestinian People since the Balfour Declaration in 1917. Those are the headlines. More their own up at the headlines. More coming up at 8 00. In the meantime, you can sign up to gb news alerts. Just scan the qr code on your screen or go to gb news. Com slash alerts. Now though, its back to. Lee. So were talking about shoplifting tonight on the show. I mean the pimlico food and wine store. Funnily enough, were in pimlico with ollie the shopkeeper, pimlico with ollie the shopkeeper , ollie. Theres been shopkeeper, ollie. Theres been a massive increase in shoplifting over the past 18 months. How does it affect your business on a daily basis on what youre doing to combat it. 7 well, basically we obviously the its rising every year , but the its rising every year, but we try to look out for it and id have a heavy, likewise a few more extra staffs which is costing us as well as well as the losses we take on. With. What sort of support do you get from the local police when you report shoplifting . Barely minimal, minimal. Barely minimal, minimal. They actually come out and see you when we press out. Theyre dangerous. Alarm okay, okay. Im totally you say it im totally would you say it happens every day. Shoplift it once a week. I wont say maybe twice a week. Yeah. And what sort of financial implications does that have on your business. Well obviously stop loss one. And secondly , customers, theyre and secondly, customers, theyre trying it on all the time and they always try for the hidden , areas. And you feel like the shoplifters that come out these days sort of think theyre never going to get caught. Yes. Okay. Yes. Okay. Well, thanks for that. Thanks for sharing your stories with us, ollie. I think now were going to go back to the pub for a pint. So today im joined by former metropolitan Police Detective and detective peter bleksley, and bike left in the corner. Hes bike is left in the corner. Hes back again. Stephen pound, former labour mp. Hes back for about the umpteenth time, guys, straight into it. Shoplifting, boom. Crime rife on our streets. People just walking into shops, taking stuff off the shelves. Theyve seen it day after day after day. We see it in my own community in ashfield. Theyre just going in. Peter, whats going off . Courtesy of british policing in 2024 . Hurts me to say this, but it hurts me to say this, but crime does pay. There are no crime does pay. There are no deterrents for people these days. You can go into a shop, help yourself. The likelihood of coming out of that store and bumping into a Patrolling Police officer are are virtually zero. The chances are being suitably punished when you get to court again, its highly unlikely. So without deterrence and without Police Patrolling the streets and making them a hostile environment for criminals, this is what weve got. Stephen. Why arent police locking people up and going out to robberies and burglaries . Because as peter quite rightly says, theyre going into shops and taking stuff and going and just taking stuff and going home. Mainly you cant ignore well, mainly you cant ignore the fact that there are 20,000 less Police Officers between 2010 and 2020. You cant ignore that. Im talking about today, stephen. Yeah, i know, but im saying is that you take some time. You dont just, you know, get Police Officers out in the bottom drawer of desk and put them drawer of your desk and put them on. You know, got to on. You know, youve got to actually them. Youve got actually train them. Youve got to them in. Look, there to bring them in. Look, there is a a real a real difference, a real difficulty here. Was walking difficulty here. I was walking down this morning. Down Oxford Street this morning. Every single had a private every single shop had a private security every single Security Guard and every single shot, shop. Shot, including the sweet shop. So means that theyve so that means that theyve basically the basically ceded control of the streets. To streets. Look what weve got to do increase the policing do is to increase the policing and the technology. I always and use the technology. I always thought new technology, thought that the new technology, you not just the you know, not just the fingerprints dna smartwater fingerprints and dna smartwater all would us all those things would enable us to and actually attack to attract and actually attack these but we dont seem these issues. But we dont seem to doing maybe a little to be doing it. Maybe a little less on demonstrations, less time on demonstrations, a little street little more time on street charging into shop and charging into a shop and steaming. Place might be steaming. The place might be good all of good for all of us. So stephen says we want more police on the streets. I agree with that. As the culture with that. But as the culture change, as policing gone soft since it has. Since your day, peter, it has. More police on the but having more police on the streets necessarily the streets is not necessarily the answer. Got to be answer. Theyve got to be properly and theyve got answer. Theyve got to be pr down. Ashes to ashes, not sweeney. Ashes to ashes, not sweeney. Yeah, yeah , yeah, were yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, were the sweeney youre nick. The sweeney and youre nick. Yeah, it. Look, yeah, i can see it. Look, i mean, i dont i think there are real with there. Sweeney. Real flaws with there. Sweeney. You to any modern police you talk to any modern Police Officer . You know, im not talking the talking about, you know, the sort the super pc police. But sort of the super pc police. But most will say, we most coppers will say, look, we cant do way. It just cant do it that way. It just doesnt work. Look, youve not mentioned the other of the mentioned the other side of the equation, that is the equation, and that is the public. Police are the public. The police are the pubucin public. The police are the public in uniform. And if you dont have the public your dont have the public on your side, difficult to be side, its damn difficult to be a policeman and that. A good policeman and all that. We there so little we know there is so little respect for the police now. Not only. Why 9 why is only. Why is that, peter . But why is that, peter . But why is that, peter . Well, of course theres the big cases. Big headline grabbing cases. The murderers, the serial rapists and atrocities. But and all those atrocities. But policing turned its back on policing has turned its back on the moderate mainstream in recent years because if you burgled, have your car stolen, have your phone stolen, have your expensive bike nicked, or youre a victim of fraud or youre a victim of fraud or youre a victim of fraud or youre a shopkeeper, you will not, in all likelihood, get a thorough investigation. And thorough investigation. And those are the crimes that happen to everybody and people now who are victims of crime so often. Tell me when i say, did you report it . They go, whats the point . It wont be investigated. Just a few years back, peter, maybe about ten years ago. I think it may be, my mom and dad or will be watching this, by the way, had their shed broken into and some stuff taken. The police didnt come out. Gave them didnt come out. They gave them a number over the phone. I a crime number over the phone. I found out had stolen this found out who had stolen this stuff. I went round in a bit stuff. So i went round in a bit of a temper to have a word with them. Should i say within five minutes the were going minutes the sirens were going and come to interview me. And sadly, there are many, many stories identical to many other stories identical to that. People that have had their tech stolen , their phones or tech stolen, their phones or their laptops or cars and of course theyve been able to track them. And the police have said, well, you go and get it back. What . Youre the police. Its stolen property. If you recover it, you might just gather some evidence about who stole it. But its not happening. The police are under huge pressures. Senior Police Officers will not tell the truth about the catastrophic state of Certain Police services. In particular, the met with a huge lack of detectives, overworked morale on the floor. Its in a catastrophic state and we need the truth to be told so it can be fixed properly. Stephen, were going to wave my magic political wand and make you the home secretary for a week. Thats a scary thought, by the way. What would you do if i was the home secretary . David blunkett id get the David Blunkett playbook out and say, David Blunkett, one of the home blunkett, one of the best home secretaries ever had, two secretaries weve ever had, two things went for. One was things that he went for. One was Neighbourhood Policing you got and stopped the old and the other he stopped the old process met, whereby you process in the met, whereby you got onto another station got shifted onto another station after automatically. Got shifted onto another station aft neighbourhood |tomatically. Got shifted onto another station aft Neighbourhood Policing,. Ly. So Neighbourhood Policing, neighbourhood watch, having the Community Working the Community Working with the police, all, having police, but above all, having those feet on the beat those local feet on the beat locally on the who know locally on the ground who know whats on, they know the whats going on, they know the villains, they scrotes, villains, they know the scrotes, and know where the nick and they know where the nick gibb lift them. Thats what gibb and lift them. Thats what we need. It back to the we need. Bring it back to the community, to the community, bring it back to the neighbourhood, have that neighbourhood, and have that link last reinstalled between neighbourhood, and have that linkpeopleinstalled between neighbourhood, and have that linkpeople and lled between neighbourhood, and have that linkpeople and lled police. An the people and the police. Lets about peter, lets talk about diversity Equality Diversity and equality within the police force, not just any pubuc the police force, not just any public but the Police Public service, but the police force, as this force, specifically as this worked, it made in worked, as it made copper in better, theyve become obsessed by detriment of other by it to the detriment of other areas of policing. And theres almost been positive discrimination as Certain Senior Police Officers have chosen to fill their ranks with women for example, or people from other minority kind of groups. But we should have of groups. But we should have women in the police force. Completely agree. I completely agree. My wife had a glittering Police Service and was a brilliant detective. Yeah, and i worked with some wonderful women Police Officers, i really did. Some are absolutely brilliant, but the whole obsession with this diverse equality and inclusion thing is that they try and force square pegs in round holes, and it doesnt work. And the police now has a raft of groups, different groups for all different minorities , and so different minorities, and so many of them are pulling in opposite directions. Theres a opposite directions. Theres a lack of harmony and morale is just collapsing in stephen. Is peter got a point on that in his quest for diversity . He has. I mean, its a bit of, you know, sort of, you know, sort of doom and gloom, but i mean, theres a very popular film out at the moment called wicked little letters, and its set in littlehampton in 1922. And film, has just and this film, which has just been made the lead Police Officer you then, officer you were on then, stephen, i was around, yeah. The wpc is played by an asian wpc moss is played by an asian woman. Know, half the police woman. You know, half the Police Officers black. Now, i officers in it are black. Now, i dont about littlehampton dont know about littlehampton in that in 1922. I rather suspect that there werent huge number of there werent a huge number of black Police Officers. So it seems to me that were desperately trying to over desperately trying to bend over backwards an backwards to actually meet an unmet because at the end unmet need, because at the end of the day, what my constituents, what your , your constituents, what your, your constituents, what your, your constituents want is somebody to solve they necessarily solve it. They dont necessarily care about the sexuality or the inclination that particular inclination of that particular person. Just want somebody person. They just want somebody in actually deal, to in uniform to actually deal, to deter and detect the two basic principles of policing. Guess if you are on i guess if you are on saturday night with the missus or whatever, peter and, you know, you come into a spot of bother with a gang youths and bother with a gang of youths and you need help pretty sharpish, you need help pretty sharpish, you see, you need you know, and you see, you need the to come, you know, the coppers to come, you know, enforce and rescue if you like. Youre not bothered what background theyre from all they all you just them to all know you just want them to do job. Do the job. Yeah. Of course do. But yeah. Of course you do. But theres theres an important theres a theres an Important Message because as the message here because as the Police Patrol the streets, police dont patrol the streets, generally speaking there is a huge responsibility upon us all, sadly, to ensure that we are not victims of crime. So we have to get that burglar alarm, that cctv system thats steering lock on our car. And when we go out and this hurts me to the pit of my stomach to say it, if youve done well for yourself and youve got a nice watch, there are certain places where you most definitely not where peter solving crimes. About this new, what about this . This new, these detectives weve got. These new detectives weve got. What of training they had . Direct entry detectives. Yeah. So some smart alec in senior policing. Probably the college of policing thought that you can drag somebody off the street whos watched two episodes of veera and suddenly turn them into a detective. But funnily enough, theyre finding out that you cant do that. They did away with the natural progression , doing your bit in progression, doing your bit in uniform, learning job, uniform, learning the job, learning deal with learning how to deal with prisoners witnesses and all prisoners and witnesses and all that of stuff. And then see that kind of stuff. And then see if youre suitable to be a detective. And the met in particular, are paying the price for theyre haemorrhaging for it. Theyre haemorrhaging them as quickly they come them as quickly as they come through front door. I spent through the front door. I spent time with one just other day time with one just the other day and said to me, peter, he and he said to me, peter, he said, i really wish id gone through usual route by going through the usual route by going in uniform first. He said, because as a direct entry detective with a degree in geography , i hasten to add. Geography, i hasten to add. Yeah, really handy for police work , he said. I tell you, work, he said. I tell you, seasoned detectives resent me. He said, im not very good at my job because i quite frankly dont know what im doing. And consequently victims have failed. And that was from the mouth of a direct entry. Young, enthusiastic detective stephen, you look like a fan of era. Is peter right . What hes saying . Saying . I think peter is nearly always right because too im terrified to disagree with him, to be perfectly honest. Yeah, but, i mean, did a lot of work but, i mean, i did a lot of work with the Police Service of Northern Ireland when i was based over there and in garnerville, the training garnerville, the Police Training college. I to say, you college. And i used to say, you have a very, very rigorous like a before you a two year program before you actually them the actually let them out in the street, you know, dont you think youre going to have burnout . Said. Said burnout . He said. They said somebody id rather somebody said to me, id rather lose in training stage lose them in the training stage than years down the line. Than 2 or 3 years down the line. So maybe the old hendon so i think maybe the old hendon model actually worked. I dont know but from know what peter thinks, but from the my perspective, it actually seemed be little bit more seemed to be a little bit more effective. And the two year probationary period you probationary period when you were weeks, the were at hendon for 16 weeks, the staff very look at staff got a very good look at you. It was also residential. Yes. So if you werent to it, yes. So if you werent up to it, you pretty much get you would pretty much get wheedled out the study. If it was too much, youd was too much, would youd be gone. Our class started with, i think it was around 25 or 30, and seven of us made it to the end of the line, a Cost Effective way of doing it, rather than having somebody in service for 2 or 3 years and then finding theyre not suitable. But the powers that be suitable. But the powers that be in policing now will say, thats all old hat. Weve moved on. Its all very , very different. Its all very, very different. And of course it is very different. But i would say to them, yeah, but is it any better . 7 ill not 5mm 7 ill not know. Weve got to finish stephen, because weve got, you know, whats coming up next there. Massive. Thanks, peter. Massive thanks stephen. But coming up next weve got emma woolf journalist. Shes going versus left going on the right versus left with man over there stephen with that man over there stephen pound. Joining me now for right versus left. Weve got my old mucker, stephen pound, former labour mp and wannabe tory. Is that right, stephen . Yes. Yes. And you repeat that, ill shoot you and journalist emma woolf. Welcome back to the show, emma budget this week. Yeah, emma budget this week. Yeah, raised a few eyebrows. Good news about the National Insurance courts, but should it be cut altogether . Emma . Altogether . Emma . National insurance . Yes, it should be scrapped. Its basically. What is it . Its basically. What is it . Its a tax on employers. Its a tax. Its a sort of double taxation. Its a sort of double taxation. Its a sort of double taxation. Its a stealthy tax. Its a tax where you think right, ive paid my income tax. Oh. And then youve got to pay all this. Its, its a tax which disproportionately affects the poon disproportionately affects the poor. Lets be about this. Poor. Lets be real about this. It up in 1911 by like it was set up in 1911 by like the poor commission. It was it was for the relief. It was for the alleviation of economic and social hardship for the poor. I actually think if you introduced actually think if you introduced a tax these days, that was like a tax these days, that was like a voluntary contribution towards a voluntary contribution towards a Proper Health and social care system , people might pay into system, people might pay into that. But what is National Insurance people dont even understand what it is. I think it all just goes into one big pot. It probably does. Stephen 1911. You was around then, when this was introduced. Is it for it to be is it time for it to be scrapped . Yeah. No, i mean, look, the no, no, i mean, look, the first thing is the government love National Insurance. Let me just why they love it. Just tell you why they love it. Because they dont have to do anything. Employers to anything. The employers have to do employers to do it. The employers have to collect employers collect it. The employers have to so from the to send it in. So from the governments point of view, it is bunce. Absolutely is bunce. It is absolutely wonderful. But the first question to ask, if not question you got to ask, if not national where we National Insurance, where do we get now we could get the money from now we could increase taxation. Know, increase taxation. You know, i can understand the simplicity of that, but politically, i can imagine quite difficult. Imagine itd be quite difficult. But idea national but the idea of National Insurance, some insurance, i think, is some fundamental. Good idea fundamental. Its a good idea that, you know, we are all members and this members of this nation and this is supposed pay is our insurance supposed to pay principally for health and pensions, when pensions, which is why when lloyd george and following on from Campbell Bannerman brought it it was actually it in in 1911, it was actually so could introduce the so they could introduce the pensions may have been pensions act. It may have been for alleviation of poor, for the alleviation of the poor, but the first time we but it was the first time we actually pensions and actually had state pensions and thats came from. Thats where it came from. I think need to actually have think we need to actually have another look at you you another look at it. But you you find as where were find an answer as to where were going money from going to get the money from instead that. And youre instead of that. And youre going find yourself going to find yourself in a fairly tricky position. A point, emma. Its a fair point, emma. Its a fair point, emma. Its a fair point, emma. It is. But i actually think the revenue, you say the Inland Revenue, you say the employers have collect it. Employers have to collect it. I actually that the inland actually think that the Inland Revenue and revenue are wasting billions and millions of pounds, probably not billions, on billions, millions of pounds on having whole having to manage the whole system, i think. Lets be system, i think. Look lets be transparent. Know, weve got transparent. You know, weve got such a complicated tax system, most understand most people dont understand it. And that national and i think that National Insurance one taxes insurance is one of those taxes that are fair. Theyre that are not fair. Theyre really fair because, you really not fair because, you know, wealthy know, if youre a wealthy employee, notice it. Employee, you dont notice it. If regular paye , if youre just a regular paye, everybody on paye has to pay this. I just think that this. And i just think that actually lets be transparent. Lets code and lets simplify the tax code and lets be clear about where the money is going and where money is going from. And where its going into what its going into. Well, lets something very important , well, lets something very important, very symbolic. I mean, older pretty much mean, im older than pretty much everybody, when i started everybody, but when i started work when i was 16 years work when i was 15, 16 years old, we had a stamp. We actually had a booklet. The end of had a booklet. At the end of every week, your boss would actually your actually put that stamp in your booklet. There was a National Insurance you insurance stamp, and you actually was like like actually felt it was like like an you actually an investment. You actually felt that some stake in what that you had some stake in what was going on. Now that was very, very symbolically now very symbolically important. Now we think we got rid of that. And i think to a extent it is now to a certain extent it is now confused. I dont know confused. I dont know where emma, you in emma, whether you believe in this of tax idea that this sort of flat tax idea that they tried in estonia a few they tried in estonia and a few other places it doesnt other places where it doesnt matter you earn, the level matter what you earn, the level of taxation. Come i was going to come on to that, stephen, we see that, stephen, because we see the now i think the threshold is now i think its about six its 12,500 pounds, about six grand know, 14 years grand from, you know, 14 years ago. It, it be fair, ago. Is it, would it be fair, emma, for everybody to pay a flat of say ten, 15 . Flat rate of tax, say ten, 15 . I think youre earning no, i think if youre earning more, more. And i more, you pay more. And i think thats all been. Thats the way its all been. Thats the anyway. Yeah, thats the case anyway. Yeah, exactly. Think that we exactly. And i think that we understand that the wealthy can take shoulder of take can can shoulder more of the burden. You know, which is why a thing were why its a good thing that were scrapping all the non dom loopholes yeah. Other other good labour and other other good labour policies. I mean, how policies. But look, i mean, how many you guys spent many times have you guys spent that £3 billion . That non dom £3 billion . Many times for how many times for everything. The magic money everything. Its the magic money tree, it . Tree, isnt it . Both the education its both the education we pay its both the education we pay defence. Come on, it pay for defence. Oh, come on, it has like the liberals. Its a that on its a gift that keeps on giving. Do remember the longest do you remember the longest pe in history when the liberals wanted on income wanted to put one p on income tax . Going to for tax . Theyre going to pay for everything out of look, everything out of that. Look, heres the interesting if heres the interesting thing. If you see our new policy you didnt see our new policy youve moment youve got at the moment isnt it. Long got. It. How long have you got. Yeah. Yeah. Look if nobody look if we if nobody paid income paid National Income tax, nobody paid National Insurance, pay tax. Insurance, youd still pay tax. Because time buy because every time we buy anything pay anything in the shop, we pay tax, pay so were being tax, we pay vat. So were being triple we are. So triple taxed. We are. Yeah. So i mean, the idea i think youre quite right to talk about simplification. I think the uk tax 2800 pages tax guidance is what, 2800 pages and exactly. And god knows exactly. I dont think jeremy hunt understands i dont understands it. I dont think you labour certainly you know, labour certainly dont understand you know, labour certainly dont unclook,1d you know, labour certainly dont unclook,1cthink i think thats look, i think i think thats a pretty bar. A pretty low bar. Point here that we want my point here is that we want to encourage employment. You know, weve an entire know, weve got an entire country where a lot of people are sitting on benefits. We want to encourage employment. Weve got get the country got to get the country moving. Weve invest. When you weve got to invest. When you have tax on employment in this have a tax on employment in this way, its a tax on way, because it is its a tax on employers. Pay. Employers. They have to pay. Well, talk about tax on well, lets talk about tax on employers. About the employers. Lets talk about the vat threshold which from vat threshold which went up from 85 90,000. I would have liked 85 to 90,000. I would have liked to see be lot higher. I to see that be a lot higher. I know small businesses, independent traders back in ashfield who are just, you know, they want to expand, but they need that encouragement. Need that encouragement. I think the thing about vat is its a choice. You know, you dont buy a packet of dont have to buy a packet of cigarettes, have to cigarettes, you dont have to pay cigarettes, you dont have to pay amount. Look, pay a huge amount. But look, i mean, some work for a local mean, i do some work for a local Community Transport company. And as they in the as soon as they brought in the london living wage, thats had a huge us. Now its very huge hit on us. Now its very for government to say, for easy the government to say, were going to introduce a National London national or a london living wage, but know, actually wage, but you know, who actually has you know who. But has to pay it . You know who. But the employers and i appreciate what indeed it what a labour policy indeed it was. The idea of was. And its the idea of a level Playing Field is a very good youve got you good one. But youve got you cant just concentrate on the one why i hate one thing, which is why i hate to but im kind of edging to say, but im kind of edging towards of having towards your argument of having a around taxation a single wrap around taxation system. It would be fiendishly difficult to enforce. In the long it would, but in the long terme it simplify terme i think it would simplify things. Earning this, you things. Youre earning this, you pay things. Youre earning this, you pay earning that, pay this, youre earning that, you pay that. Dead. Were all dead. Were all dead. Well, thats the only two certain death and taxes , indeed. So overall, did benefit so overall, did you benefit from at all, stephen . From that at all, stephen . Well, no, i didnt, and, i mean, most of my pension, i dont pay National Insurance at all, to honest. I look all, to be honest. No, i look older, i dont , but look, me older, i dont, but look, let me theres very, very theres one actually very, very serious that missing serious thing that was missing from that budget. Yes. I didnt see anything defence see anything about defence expenditure known a expenditure. Weve never known a more the more dangerous time in the world. And where was the money for the for a defence. That was what was missing. And i think a lot of people waking up this morning hang on morning saying, well, hang on a second, wheres second, you know, wheres the beef . Going here . Second, you know, wheres the beef . Got going here . Second, you know, wheres the beef . Got thisioing here . Second, you know, wheres the beef . Got this sort here . Second, you know, wheres the beef . Got this sort of here . Second, you know, wheres the beef . Got this sort of headline weve got this sort of headline grabbing. Its not even a rabbit out hat. Out of the hat. Its a youre a mother. Youve got youve a small youve got youve got a small child. Yeah. Youve got youve got a small chiiandzah. Youve got youve got a small chiiand im a single so and im a single mother, so i should theory, i havent should in theory, i havent looked it. I should, in looked into it. I should, in theory benefit this thing theory benefit from this thing about income on about raising the income on single so single income households. So thats but im thats a good thing. But im actually worried. Okay. That budget underwhelming budget was wildly underwhelming to me. Really . Thats what youve got in the thats what youve got in the thats what youve time when were youve got at a time when were in and we are heading in crisis and we are heading into election, im really into an election, im really sorry nothing. Sorry that budget was nothing. People down the country people up and down the country are how does this help are saying, how does this help me . A2p in national me . Yeah a2p cut in National Insurance. Pretty much insurance. That was pretty much it. Rabbit the hat. It. No rabbit out of the hat. Nothing. The yeah well, nothing. The country. Yeah well, no, people are not feeling it. People are not going to massively are not going to feel that they massively benefit from this. Think that jeremy hunt this. I think that jeremy hunt needed bolder. Needed to do something bolder. If is going to shift if anything is going to shift before the next. We had the labour wittering on the chamber i on in the chamber yesterday. I was on sophisticated debate as the word wittering on what would what would they have done differently their differently . Whats their plan . Whats policies . Differently . Whats their plan . Wh well, policies . Differently . Whats their plan . Wh well, i policies . Differently . Whats their plan . Wh well, i spoke ies . Differently . Whats their plan . Wh well, i spoke to ; . Differently . Whats their plan . Wh well, i spoke to james well, i spoke to james murray, shadow secretary of the treasury, and he murray, shadow secretary of the trea saying and he murray, shadow secretary of the trea saying all and he murray, shadow secretary of the trea saying all this and he murray, shadow secretary of the trea saying all this great|d he murray, shadow secretary of the trea saying all this great stuff was saying all this great stuff and im not you know, im, i know i attack labour, but im open to ideas because i think the after 14 years the conservatives after 14 years are running ideas are kind of running out of ideas and what james murray, he says all stuff, but theyre all the good stuff, but theyre still not putting on still not putting any meat on the bones. We still dont have labour. Hes still labour policies. Hes still talking, you know, airily about, business up and down the country, you know, talking vaguely about business rates, talking vaguely about investing in the country. Talking vaguely about investing in the country. But talking vaguely about investing in the country. But theyre not in the country. But theyre not really they still keep saying we need to see what the finances are. We need to see what the situation is. Itll be in the manifesto or were coming probably within now of probably within months. Now of an election. Well, could we have . Itll be november, wont it . Itll be november, wont it . Yeah. Okay. But come on. Yeah. Okay. But still, still six months. Still, thats still six months. Lets some detail. Lets have some detail. Well, just one single plan. Stephen. Got to stephen. What have they got to offer the public . What have they got . Wed scrap around. Wed actually start dealing, processing, immigration. We there we go. We there we go. We not a positive policy. Thats not a positive policy. Thats not a positive policy. The money was £170,000 per person. Going to show. Person. Were going to show. Okay. And scrap okay, okay. And also scrap your and doing. Oh yeah. Oh yeah. Doing what. And doing what the billion about. Oh were actually what were doing all the time processing moment. Calm down. Watch your blood pressure. All hear all the pressure. All we hear all the time is smash the gangs. Thats gangs. Yes. Thats all the gangs. Yes. Thats all the gangs. Do we do that, stephen . How do we do that, stephen . How do we do that, stephen . Cracking down on the on the on people smugglers. On the people smugglers. Starmers what im. What im talking about is doing to do process doing what we used to do process all asylum in all those asylum cases in northern france. And dont forget of those people who forget a lot of those people who come entitled to be here. We already have a backlog in this know. This country, i know. Guys . Look, have right, guys . Look, we have to calm it down. Just just lower the temperature, can see its the temperature, we can see its getting a bit heated. Its time now the yes or quiz. Now for the yes or no quiz. Youve done this about ten times now. Never won well no, now. Ive never won it. Well no, because you get them all wrong. I last time. Because you get them all wrong. Yeah, last time. Because you get them all wrong. Yeah, right. Me. Because you get them all wrong. Yeah, right. Remember its yes or no. Spoke earlier. Yes or no. We spoke earlier. Yes. Spoke the show tonight yes. Spoke on the show tonight about policing in the country. And about policing. And so its all about policing. This one is stephen. So number one emma are the police losing control of our streets. Yes. Yes number two, stephen, would you like to see a return to Old Fashioned coppering . Yes yes. Emma. Number three, do we have a sufficient deterrence in place . No no. Neck and neck of the police and Crime Commissioners in this country been a success. Emma. No. No way. No, no doing it again, auntie. Its just that. Again, auntie. Itsjust that. Is again, auntie. Its just that. Is that two after a e. So i cant give you that one, mate, number five, stephen. As the quest for diversity improved, our police force are no , no, stephen, force are no, no, stephen, youve done it again, arent you 7 youve done it again, arent you . Its a simple. Yes. Ive fallen at the last fence. No , youre doing really, no, youre doing really, really well. But you fell again. Wolf. Streaks into the lead. Streaks into the lead. Five out of five. A pathetic score again from from stephen pound. Four and a half. I got, yeah. Four and a half. I got, yeah. Do you want to come back on one . Emma . Id like to say we have completely. I mean, look, half of burglaries not even being investigated. People to frighten these bread and butter crimes like burglary, like shoplifting. Like burglary, like shoplifting. The police have given up on people too frightened to leave their homes because theyve been burgled. And they think theyre going to be broken into again. And theyre too frightened to stay at home because theyve been burgled. Its really appalling police , for appalling that the police, for whatever reason, under resourcing the fact that theyre busy staring at screens and filling out forms , whatever and filling out forms, whatever it is, we have lost the plot. Stephen. Stephen. Now, steve, i want im not going to go back on one for you, but what i want you to do is explain yourself why you keep getting wrong. Getting this quiz wrong. Cant my mouth hey, i cant keep my mouth shut b, i dont have the shut and b, i dont have the posh education you had. Posh education that you had. Yeah, not skilled in this yeah, so im not skilled in this obfuscating and answering questions. Education questions. I think my education would have been pretty similar to yours. Would have been pretty similar to yl urs. Would have been pretty similar to yl left school, went the i left school, went down the pit. You school and went to pit. You left school and went to the navy . Yeah. Thats right, isnt to the navy, it well, to be in the navy, it was being in was like sort of being in prison, with the fear prison, but with the added fear of drowning. Would you recommend would would you recommend it . Would you do it all again . I would, mean, the modern i would, i mean, the modern andrew is a difficult a andrew is a difficult its a very different my day. It was very different in my day. It was a industrial so. Very different in my day. It was a and 1dustrial so. Very different in my day. It was a and 1dustrial sit in the war . Which war are we talking about . First when trafalgar about . First one, when trafalgar was grimlocks. Anyway, as i said, the nelson i said, oh no, no brilliant again guys. No thats brilliant again guys. Stephen, hope to have you back on again at some stage. We you know, im really looking forward you get forward to the day when you get five of five. Emma you five out of five. Emma you smashed it. Absolutely not very stiff was it. Stiff competition though was it. But next up next on but look next coming up next on this brilliant show. Were going back magician back in the day with magician graham jolly welcome back to Lee Andersons real world. Were going back in the day now with this chap here. Iconic magician graham p. Jolly bag of tricks here. Lets talk about magic, though. Does it really exist . Well , im really exist . Well, im from the point of view of illusion. It does. But of course , magics changed of course, magics changed tremendously over the last, i should say, 20 years. I mean, i was brought up in the era of david nixon, david nixon, who always reminds me of ian duncan smith. Thats a fair point. And robert harben, david berglas, tommy cooper, tommy cooper , a tommy cooper, tommy cooper, a great magician, a wonderful magician, actually, very, very good. But he discovered that by going wrong, the audience loved him more. Yeah but then, of him even more. Yeah but then, of course, i think he was. About 20 years ago, there was a sea change in magic. We people change in magic. We had people like david blaine. Yeah. Like dynamo, david blaine. Yeah. I met dynamo the other day. The magic circle. Really . Ill never forget what he to forget what he said to me. Whats are you really . Whats up . Who are you really . Yeah, but hes a lovely yeah, and. But hes a lovely fella. Very fine magician , but i fella. Very fine magician, but i think was about 30 years ago. Think he was about 30 years ago. What got interested in magic . Did you do tricks at school . Did you do tricks at school . Did you do tricks at school . I went to boarding house. Yeah, i was, i went to boarding school and i wasnt into football cricket. Yeah. No, football and cricket. Yeah. No, cricket took up magic. Okay, but, i mean, in those days, mentalism, which is very popular at the moment, you know, mind reading , it at the moment, you know, mind reading, it was of. Reading, it was sort of. Can you read my mind . Can you read my mind . Im going to try. Well, well, im going to try. Well, then a well, earlier then have a go. Well, earlier today, had a premonition. A today, i had a premonition. A lot in my age do. In my lot of men in my age do. In my wallet. Always keep an wallet. I always keep an envelope. Envelope contains envelope. The envelope contains a i wont show you a playing card. I wont show you what later displays what the card is. Later displays it wallet and ask it back in the wallet and ask you would keep the you if you would to keep the wallet a safe place. Okay, wallet in a safe place. Okay, a pocket now now, lee, in a moment, like if you would, moment, id like if you would, to select or think of one to kindly select or think of one of these 52 cards. Think of one. Yeah, well, in a moment, in a moment. But a very strange thing will happen. The card you think of will be the very same card which i placed in the wallet. Yeah. Think thats yeah. Do you think thats possible . Is correct possible . No, no. Is the correct reply. Would you hold the cards and top would deal and from the top would you deal them face onto my hand one by them face up onto my hand one by one . Continue dealing only. And when you feel the impulse, id like you stop. Dont stop at like you to stop. Dont stop at a card, but just a particular card, but just stop at position. You want at a random position. You want to stop here . You happy there . Yeah. Would you turn over the card . Just opt out. Can i just show everybody near stopped in the of clubs . Think the eight of clubs . I think youll agree. Could have youll agree. You could have stopped one of these stopped at any one of these cards. Could have at cards. You could have stopped at any few remaining. Any one of the few remaining. But, at the but, lee, you stopped at the eight of clubs. May i have the wallet, please . You can, because the wallet, ladies magic the wallet, ladies and magic wallet an envelope. The wallet contains an envelope. The envelope contains a playing card and that card today is the eight of clubs. Thats magic. Thats magic. Thats magic. Now, that wasnt mind reading. No, that was suggestion and phrasing my words to influence you to stop at a particular spot. It doesnt always work. And whilst these bag of tncks and whilst these bag of tricks youve got here. Whats all that about . Well, this. You like to take risks . Do you like to take risks . Do you like to take risks . Yeah. Yeah. Well took recently. Well took a few recently. Yes. You have. You have. Well this a, this is a well this is a, this is a calculated risk , in each bag is calculated risk, in each bag is a small block of wood. And the idea of the block of wood is just to keep the bags upright and stop them falling over. But in one of the bags, in one of the bags, im going to place a spike a five inch. I think its about five inch. Spike lee, would you hold your hand out flat . Palm . Oh. Like that . Oh. Like that . Okay, thats pretty painful. Thats painful. Yeah. Pretty. You wouldnt want through you wouldnt want that through you. To place you. So im just going to place that the bag. Now i dont that in the bag. Now i dont want you to know where that im looking away, okay . Im just going to turn my back, move them around. You can turn around now, around. You can turn around now, lee. Now. Five. Five. Five bags. 1234, five. Four of the bags are safe. Four of the bags are safe, safe. Four of the bags are safe, but one of them is dangerous , but one of them is dangerous, im going to try and influence you so you avoid the dangerous bag. Okay, thats one two, three, four, five. When i flip my finger, just call out one, two, three, 4 or 5, three, three. Then this one. Yeah. Okay. You dont change your mind. Okay, lee, as i pass my hands over them like this, just call out. Stop when you feel some sort of impulse, stop here. A brave man there and pass oven over. Oven and dont bring your hand down because it might go wrong. But when you feel youre over a safe bag, a safe bag. Just stop. Just stop. This is a safe bike. This is a safe bike. Do you think this is safe . Yeah can i just hold your wrist . Tell me when you think youre over a safe bet, a safe bag. Thats a safe bag. Thats a safe bag. I think this is a safe bag. I think this is a safe bag. So im doing all the work here. Im predicting the safe bags. I mean, it should be me thats getting a round of applause. And there. And there. And there. It works. Yeah, theyve been quite , quite cruel to apple. How quite, quite cruel to apple. How did you learn that trick . Because it is a trick, isnt it . Have you got any scars on your hand to prove it . Shall we try one more . Shall we try one more . No no no no no no no no. So magics changed over the years, obviously. The more like obviously. Yes, we the more like illusionists theyre illusionists now arent . Theyre not tricks. Not doing the card tricks. Theyre doing tricks like theyre not doing tricks like this. Big stage this. Its all the big stage stuff, it . This. Its all the big stage stu� yeah, it . This. Its all the big stage stu� yeah, i it . This. Its all the big stage stu� yeah, i think things will yeah, i think things will come back. To the cycle. Come back. Go to the cycle. Sleight of hand. You know, theres some wonderful sleight of performers around paul of hand performers around paul gordon always stands gordon who always stands out. Gentleman worthing. And i gentleman in worthing. And i think thered be a you think thered be a are you allowed to any secrets . Allowed to reveal any secrets . Well, were not supposed to, but there are lots of them on youtube, you . Yeah a lot youtube, cant you . Yeah a lot of see no reason why. Of magicians see no reason why. Sawing women in what about sawing women in half . How that happen . Half . How does that happen . Thats, technology. Well, thats, technology. Yeah, its not really a sleight well, thats, technology. Ye hand. ; not really a sleight well, thats, technology. Ye hand. Okayeally a sleight of hand. Okay and these escapologists. I saw an escapologist on the embankment just a few weeks back. Yeah, or chained up in a sack. Yeah. And then, hey sack. Yeah. And then, hey presto, two minutes later. Yeah. Yeah. I dont class that as magic. Somehow its more endurance, isnt it . And yeah, obviously , i isnt it . And yeah, obviously, i mean, when i was growing up, i had a magic set for christmas. I remember. And it got me really interested in magic. I mean, i soon lost interest, but thats sort of how you start into as a child, looking into it. As a child, looking at tv 8, you get that tv about 7 or 8, you get that magic set for christmas and you get carried away and youre doing box of magic. Doing your box of magic. Yeah. Yeah. And boring people to and you boring people to death. And you boring people to deatncks and you boring people to deatricks arent you . Then tricks arent you . And then you to 12 or 13 and you get to about 12 or 13 and you get to about 12 or 13 and you lose interest. And you lose interest. Yeah. And then okay. You lose interest. Yeah. And the so okay. You lose interest. Yeah. And the so britains okay. You lose interest. Yeah. And the so britains got okay. You lose interest. Yeah. And the so britains got talent okay. You lose interest. Yeah. And the so britains got talent. � kay. You lose interest. Yeah. And the so britains got talent. He. So britains got talent. He was on there werent you. No it wasnt on it. They asked me did they. Yeah. They thought wouldnt suitable. Thought i wouldnt be suitable. Right. Think was my sense right. I think it was my sense of okay okay. Of humour. Okay okay. Got one. Okay we got one. Okay we got one. Okay i mean, thats a wonderful discussion. Do you do like , discussion. Do you do like, childrens shows and parties and stuff like that . Corporate engagement, corporate engagements and bitter after speaker. Corporate engagements and bitter after and peaker. Corporate engagements and bitter after and you. Er. Corporate engagements and bitter after and you can read minds yeah, and you can read minds as well. Thats right. Yeah, yeah. Or predict the future for people. I did. I did. Well, i predicted, who would win the tory, new prime minister, liz truss. I got it right. Unfortunately yeah. So did 99 of the population. Yeah. I so did 99 of the population. Yeah. I dont know. I think we all got that. Yeah. But i also predicted who would also be in the in the race. Yeah okay. Yeah okay. Okay. But i made a prediction about donald trump okay. Yeah. Yeah yeah. Yeah paul graham are you going to come back for henri paul. But, coming got coming up next, weve got entrepreneur levitin. Thats last orders at the bar. Joined by the very lovely chantal levitin. Entrepreneur, model, musician , jack of all model, musician, jack of all trades. Can we say jack of all trades . Or is it jill of all trades . Or is it jill of all trades . Whatever you prefer. You play trades . Whatever you prefer. You play an instrument . I do a viola. Viola . Viola . Which one is it . Which one is it . Viola . Yeah. Viola . Yeah. Tell me how that started. Then. Dont tell. Back, i started so going way back, i started the violin when i was seven and continued through and kind of fell in love with music and progressed to the Royal Academy of music, so was classically trained and, and then you know, what you plan for never really usually happens. I thought id graduate and become a classical musician, but sort of fell in to this story, isnt it . Theres a twist. Theres a twist. Yeah. So we started sort of as students gigging outside of college to earn a few bucks and yeah, ended up on the mcfly tour playing electric violin. Playing electric violin. From being a classical musician to going with a boy band. So when we were at college, we were all freelance musicians as well. So, you know, earn a bit of extra money. And so my three best friends and i randomly got booked for this tour together, which doesnt usually happen. Usually you dont necessarily know who youre going to gig with. And on this tour, the mcfly boys wanted us on electric instruments, so they string quartette they had a male string quartette and female female string and a female female string quartette and yeah, we just backed their songs on stage and it was just a great tour. And from that escala was born really. We just took that sort of recipe and amazing, you know, being classically trained, playing these. What we call posh instruments, and seeing a sort of future for yourself doing that. Then you find yourself on stage in front of thousands of screaming young ladies. I would imagine. Screaming young ladies. I would imagine. Ive seen some of screaming young ladies. I would imagine. Ive seen some of the imagine. Ive seen some of the clips on youtube of these these concerts. Feel for you . Well, it just gave a taste well, it just gave us a taste to arena concerts were all to what arena concerts were all about. And the energy that you get from the audience is something so special. So i think once youve had a taste of it, it becomes something that you work towards. So, and thats really what we took from that toun so you dont have the buzz anymore of these, these big concerts, but youve got a different sort of buzz in your life and youve got two children. I have two beautiful girls. Sofia whos nearly and sofia whos nearly nine, and sienna, whos so , so once sienna, whos seven, so, so once the scala, while i left in 2015. Yeah. Eight months pregnant. Okay. And decided to be a stay at home mummy. I felt like id sort of achieved everything i wanted to in the music business, and i sort of wanted to leave it on a high in a way , and i felt on a high in a way, and i felt like it was the right time of life to just stay at home with my babies and raise kids like five and nine years old. And i think they are. And i think they are. Say seven and nearly did you say seven and nearly nine . Seven. So youve nearly nine. So youve got that freedom now that a little bit of freedom now i a bit of independent. So i do a bit of independent. So what do with your what are you gonna do with your spare so this it. Spare time . So this is it. Think you become a i think once you become a stay at home mum, im its stay at home mum, im sure its a common issue. You. Its a very common issue. You. Its very easy to lose your identity within. Can watch women you can watch loose women all day, you . You can watch loose women all dayi you . You can watch loose women all dayi mean, you . You can watch loose women all dayi mean, i u . You can watch loose women all dayi mean, i could. I mean, i could. Never. No, never. No, never. News is even better. Gb news is even better. Gb news is even better. Gb news is even better. Gb news. Yeah so i think now i like ive got a bit more i feel like ive got a bit more time there at school. I just want to get out there, find want to get back out there, find my again. What . My independence again. What . Find and fulfilment find some purpose and fulfilment again, instead of just being saffia and siennas mummy, which is lovely, but would be nice is lovely, but it would be nice to build. To build. So where do you see yourself in five years time . What were ooh, what were you . Ooh, what were you . Would thats a question i would like doing a more like to be doing a bit more modelling. Its something i really i a lot of really enjoy. I had a lot of experience with that when i was in the group. We did lots of interviews and photoshoots and its always its something i always really loved, again, with coupling that with fashion. So im begun my journey on starting my own little resortwear fashion line and thats something id love to see come to fruition in the future. Future. Is it making money your fashion line . Well, i havent launched it yet. I hope it will. Now do people find out and now do people find out about your fashion line . Where would they go to find that . Its called and sky, so its called luna and sky, which middle names of my which are the middle names of my children, i have sort of bagged my and building a my instagram name and building a website. Website. Models. Models. Yeah , if youre up for well, yeah, if youre up for it. Yeah. Im not laughing. Is it . Well, will it be male fashion on there or just unfortunately it is womens resortwear, so im not sure thats really your bag. Look, weve got you here for a reason. Behind the bar, chantelle. Going do on chantelle. Were going to do on the were to the paw. Were going to bring back magician. Its. Back graham the magician. Its. Where . Come back here. Where is he . Come back here. Right. You a pot right. You need a pint pot a piece. Try saying that one each. Piece. Try saying that one each. And these two pumps here. Yeah and youve got 30s. No. Together. I mean, ive never done this. I mean, ive never done this. Dont matter. 30s to pull a pint and plug down the bar. Go and you can plug on the bar, think. I think you might win. I think you might win. Lets have a look. Okay lets have a look. Okay go and pay attention, please. I am trying try and pay attention. Thats not a bad point. Actually. Hands are shaking, think my hands are shaking, i think i think grahams winning. Yeah, thats quicker. Chantelle. Thats a bit quicker. Chantelle. , dear. Oh, dear. Oh, dear. Thats about a metre. Thats about a metre. You didnt quite. Well, no, you didnt quite. Well, if you can put that on the bar when youve got a full head on and shine the other front here. Oh, god. Mine doesnt have any bits. Any frothy bits. No. I saw you looking, previously, chantelle, at the tncks previously, chantelle, at the tricks that, that graham was doing on the bar with the spike in the block. Yes. That looked very dangerous. That could have ended nastily. It could. It could. It done. And it has done. And it has done. Any tips for young people doing sort of thing . Doing that sort of thing . That one. Avoid that one. Avoid that one. The nail to card avoid the nail to card tricks. Tricks. Tricks. Yeah. Card tricks. Yes, yes. You interested yes. Are you interested in magic, yes. Are you interested in ma always. Oh, always. Oh, yeah. Always. Oh, yeah. Oh. Should try one . Yeah. Oh. Should we try one . Why look why not . Look theyre the cards, okay . Okay, ill flick through them and just remember a card. You see . Lets see it. All right. Okay. Dont tell there okay. Dont tell me. There we go. One. Just think go. Do get one. Okay. Just think of try and visualise of that card. Try and visualise it front of you. Okay . Ive it in front of you. Okay . Ive got one card here. What was your card . Seven of hearts. Seven of hearts. Seven of hearts . Seven of hearts . Oh, how did he do that . Oh, how did he do that . I dont know, its magic. I dont know, its magic. That is amazing. That is amazing. Thank you. You do that . Well, shall i try one quick one with you . Yeah. Quick one, tell you what, current dictionary, thousand pages. Dictionary, thousand pages. Yeah, across the top. Hold on. Let me put my glasses. I need my glasses. Sorry, over a thousand glasses. Sorry, over a thousand pages. We can check this by looking at the number of the last page if counting. Looking at the number of the last know, if counting. Looking at the number of the last know, youll if counting. Looking at the number of the last know, youll if coun across you know, youll notice across the one, three, four the top one, two, three, four words right . Yep. Just words there, right . Yep. Just burden. Yep. One, enrolment. Burden. Yep. One, enrolment. Okay. Lee, would you hold the card like that . Yeah. Look at me. When i put my finger over the book wide, somewhere in the middle. Open it across the top from left to right. You got four words there. Correct. Which would the first, would you like the first, second, fourth . First. Second, third or fourth . First. Look would you . Look at it again, would you . Yeah. It. Close yeah. Okay. You got it. Close the theres the book. Now theres over 200,000 in 200,000 different definitions in this , words. But you this book, but, words. But you got one, one word in particular. What would you think of a number between. Between 1 and 100 . Okay between. Between 1 and 100 . Okay and for later, very later verification. Just make a note of it. Nice and big in the middle of the circle. Dont know me, said have you got it . Fold it up. Very exciting. Fold it. Yeah fold it. Yeah. Hang on. Fold it. Yeah. Hang on. Okay, back it up the pen. Back im wealthy man. And, back im not a wealthy man. And, thank so much. So you have a thank you so much. So you have a word and a number . Yep. And, very quickly. Is it gonna take long . This. This. No, no, no, just very, very , no, no, no, just very, very, very quickly. Just take just take a small bunch of cards, okay. So we have a word. Do you think of the word a word. Do you think of the word enrolment . No. You keep it there, you have a number 60. Is there, you have a number 60. Is there 661 . No forget it. Oh, there you go. Thats magic. Its on the pole. Im giving that a ten. No, not having a ten because its just going straight wrong. Youre going straight wrong. Youre going to have eight. And im sorry. Thats thats very flat. Youre going to have three youre going to have a three thats on pole. Thanks, thats on the pole. Thanks, guys. You. It was guys. Thanks. Thank you. It was over over eight. I picked over eight over eight. I picked it overrated. It because i am overrated. Thanks for that guys. Overrated. Another word overrated. Overrated okay. On the pole. Yeah thats 19 on the pole. Yeah thats it. Six. Thats good tv. Thanks it. Six. Thats good tv. Thanks for watching. Lee andersons real world. Its been a really magical show tonight. But tricks dont always go to plan. But coming up next, weve got friday night live with mark. That warm feeling inside from boxt boilers, sponsors of weather on gb news. Hello again. Good evening. Welcome to your latest gb news weather update. It should stay dry through this evening for many areas, but rain and showers will push up from the southwest to bring some showery outbreaks of many this of rain. For many of us this weekend. And thats as a result weekend. And thats as a result of this low pressure system bringing weather fronts bringing these weather fronts into through into the southwest through this evening. Some evening. So that will bring some showery outbreaks rain for showery outbreaks of rain for parts and cornwall parts of devon and cornwall through evening. Elsewhere, through this evening. Elsewhere, though, should for though, it should be dry for much evening and through much of the evening and through much of the evening and through much of the night. Having said that, it be quite that, but it will be quite cloudy breezy. That will cloudy and breezy. That will limit any frost to just the far northwest scotland, it northwest of scotland, but it will chilly start to will be a fairly chilly start to the weekend with that easterly breeze continuing. The wind will be quite strong, particularly over the ground and over the high ground and northwestern areas throughout saturday and further south well see thicken through the see cloud thicken through the afternoon with some drizzly outbreaks of rain to come around lunchtime across central and southeastern. There will southeastern areas. There will be some brighter weather through the afternoon, but that will allow some showers to break out. Those could turn quite those showers could turn quite heavy across parts of the southwest, some very heavy southwest, so some very heavy rain for parts of rain is possible for parts of dartmoor, parts of wales dartmoor, parts of south wales as that rain will be much as well. That rain will be much more widespread through sunday, particularly across eastern areas of england, as well as parts scotland where there parts of scotland where there will some persistent will be some quite persistent and times. So and heavy rain at times. So there be some flooding there could be some Flooding Issues by. Looks like things heating looks like things are heating up. Boxt boilers sponsors of gb news. Its 8 00 from the World Headquarters of gb news. This is friday night live with me. Mark dolan is International Womens day Still Necessary . Could joe biden survive another four years in the white house . Is he wrong to slap your children on the wrist as Rupert Murdoch gets engaged at 92 . Does marriage in later life work . And should the later life work . And should the pro palestinian protests , who pro palestinian protests, who did this . Take a look at this video