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Showing theres around £2 billion less to spend than previously thought. And thats previously thought. And thats after britain was confirmed to have slipped into a recession at the end of last year. Well, speaking to gb news earlier this morning, said his morning, jeremy hunt said his budget deliver better value budget will deliver better value for taxpayers. It is wrong to say that we should be putting more money into the Public Sector, fewer Civil Servants to be more productive , correct. Be more productive, correct. You want fewer people to do more. I think weve got to stop always looking at the inputs and always looking at the inputs and always saying that the way to get public to get Better Public Services is to spend more and actually ask if we could be more efficient. We could be more efficient. Those who preach hate could be blocked from entering britain. Thats under plans being considered by the government. Reports suggested government. Reports suggested that current powers could be used to increase the number of people who are added to black lists, as if theyre deemed to be non conducive to public good. That could include those who preach racism, intimidation or incite violence. Currently the rules are typically used to ban people who are known to pose a security threat. Labour will security threat. Labour will ensure that compulsory training on violence against women and girls is given to all Police Officers across the country. Officers across the country. Following an inquiry into Sarah Everards killer, labour is also vowed to revamp police vetting procedures to stop those with a history of Domestic Abuse or Sexual Offences from joining any police force. In a report police force. In a report published this week , it found published this week, it found that Wayne Couzens should have never been given a job as a Police Officer and the chances to stop the sexual predator were repeatedly ignored and missed. Today today marks three years since he killed Sarah Everard , since he killed Sarah Everard, who was 33 at the time, after tricking her into thinking she was being arrested , he was was being arrested, he was sentenced to life in prison and will never be released. But in will never be released. But in other news today, weve heard that a seven Year Old Girl has drowned after a small boat capsized while trying to cross the english channel. We understand 15 people were on board that boat, including the girls family , when it sank off girls family, when it sank off the coast of calais in france. The local authorities have said it was not appropriately sized. The boat, that is to carry so many people , Yemens Houthi many people, Yemens Houthi militant group has issued a fresh threat today against britain , warning that it will britain, warning that it will target , strike and britain, warning that it will target, strike and sink more british ships. The rebel group says britain is a rogue state, accusing government here of attacking yemen in and collaborating with the us in crimes against gazas civilians. It comes less than 24 hours after another british cargo ship, which was abandoned after a missile strike in recent weeks, sank in the red sea. Meanwhile the uk, the us and the eu all have military ships in the region patrolling and protecting commercial vessels that are passing through the shipping route. Rail passengers shipping route. Rail passengers are facing yet more price hikes from today , as fares across from today, as fares across england and wales are increased by 5. Thats despite train cancellations being among the worst in a decade. Labour has accused the government of letting ticket prices rise almost twice as much as wages , almost twice as much as wages, with passengers now forced to pay with passengers now forced to pay more for less. It comes after thousands of services were cancelled in the past year. One of the rail industrys worst performances since records began to the United States , where to the United States, where Nikki Haley Says she wont be bound by the republican partys pledge to support donald trump if he wins the nomination. An election rematch is now looking ever more likely, with mr trump winning three more contests. Its overnight in missouri, michigan and idaho. He made several false claims at Previous Campaign rallies , including an Campaign Rallies, including an allegation that President Biden is trying. He says, to overthrow the United States. Thats despite mr trump himself being charged with conspiracy to defraud the us. Part of the 91 serious crimes hes accused of in four ongoing criminal trials. And finally, last nights brit awards were dominated by singer songwriter ray. In a stunning turnaround for the 26 year old after she was dumped by her old record label. Have a listen to record label. Have a listen to this moment, where she claimed one of the top honours. One of the top honours. Im so proud of this album. Im in love with music. All i ever wanted to be was an artist, and now im an artist with an album of the year. Ray won album and artist of the year and best new artist, and then she was also named songwriter of the year and went on to win the r b category pubuc on to win the r b category public vote. That means in total, she scooped up an astonishing six awards the most wins in a single year at the brits ever. For the latest brits ever. For the latest stories, you can sign up to gb news alerts by scanning the code there on your screen, or go to gb news. Common alerts. Gb news. Common alerts. Hello if youre just tuned in, welcome this is coming up to seven minutes after 3 00. Im nana akua now , before we get stuck akua now, before we get stuck into the debates in the clash, let me introduce you again today. Meteorology and social commentatorjim dale , also commentatorjim dale, also businessman and activist adam brooks will be going head to head. But heres what else is coming up. Have brits reached coming up. Have brits reached their limit on taxes as jeremy hunt has admitted that he was not happy with the overall tax burden. But hes played down the prospect of a of tax cuts in this weeks so will new this weeks budget. So will new plans to stop hate preachers coming to the uk make any difference then . Under new government plans, the most dangerous extremists from countries afghanistan, countries including afghanistan, pakistan and indonesia will be added to visa warning lists. But will these plans work . I mean, does the ones before work then a drivers scared of change. Is this why people wont be buying or arent buying their evs that an electric car manufacture claims that they are blaming drivers for the slow uptake of electric cars . But surely electric cars . But surely theres other factors , including theres other factors, including theres other factors, including the cost. What do you think , the cost. What do you think, then . A Girls Football league is facing being shut down for refusing to allow a boy to play in its matches. The fa has threatened the west riding Football League with sanctions , Football League with sanctions, sanctions and a possible suspension. But was that the suspension. But was that the right call . And finally , sir right call . And finally, sir keir starmer, his ban on zero hour contracts, will it destroy jobs and empower unions . Critics argue that zero hour contracts are actually necessary, but many workers and businesses argue that they offer more flexibility. With an election looming, could this be a costume mistake . Yet another one for the labour party thats coming up in this hour . Tell me what you think on everything were discussing. Email news. Com email gb views at gb news. Com or at. Gb news. So or tweet me at. Gb news. So welcome on board. Just coming up to eight minutes now after 3 00, the question is though, have we brits reached our limit on taxes . I mean, im sick of them. Weve had the highest tax burden since the war. The chancellor has acknowledged the british taxpayer are feeling the pinch and that many have reached the limit how high theyre limit of how high theyre prepared to see taxes go. Prepared to see their taxes go. But also been but jeremy has also been downplaying the prospect of any major tax cuts in the budget on wednesday, that hell wednesday, saying that hell only cut taxes in a sustainable and responsible way and with the tax burden on track to hit a record high, lots of people are wondering how the chancellor plans to navigate the delicate balance between fiscal responsibility and meeting our expectations. So lets welcome again to my head to head as my clashes meteorologist and social commentator jim clashes meteorologist and social commentatorjim dale, and also businessman and activist adam brooks. Businessman and activist adam brooks. Right. Im going to start you, jim dale. Start with you, jim dale. Afternoon. Good afternoon. Before everybody turns off the , auntie auntie fans the tv, my auntie auntie fans out there because i know who you are. Are. Uh, nobodys cancelled on this , are they not . This program, are they not . Unless break my rules. Of course, f of course, of course no, of course, of course i dont rules, i . Dont break your rules, do i . So, uh , look, uh, its election so, uh, look, uh, its election time, and this will be a very political , uh, time, and this will be a very political, uh, budget time, and this will be a very political , uh, budget without political, uh, budget without a shadow of a doubt. Its on shadow of a doubt. Its on wednesday. Shadow of a doubt. Its on wednesday. Um, theres no shadow of a doubt. Its on wednesday. Um, theres no room wednesday. Um, theres no room to manoeuvre. The obe are looking over his shoulder. Uh, you cant you cant go and do a truss exercise and throw it all away. Uh, in one go, thinking hes going to buy she. How did she throw it away with huge, potentially huge tax cuts that basically would undermine Interest Rates went up as we all see people are suffering at this moment in time they met. Its absolutely Interest Rates going up on her. Uh, absolutely. Well, they would have gone anyway. Uh, absolutely. Well, they wottheyive gone anyway. Uh, absolutely. Well, they wotthey havene anyway. Uh, absolutely. Well, they wotthey have to anyway. Uh, absolutely. Well, they wotthey have to. Anyway. Uh, absolutely. Well, they wotthey have to. Well, way. Uh, absolutely. Well, they wotthey have to. Well, look, she they have to. Well, look, she made a she made a bad position worse. Basically. Thats exactly worse. Basically. Thats exactly what she did. And look, i dont i its not me thats saying this. Its the markets that said it did the obr the world market i think they did because everything they say has been proved to be. Well not not necessarily. But but as i say, lets just back to where we lets just go back to where we started. We had started. And i have we had enough tax. Have we had enough uh, tax. Weve enough. Weve uh, tax. Weve had enough. Weve had enough. Its for had enough. Its time for a general election. So this is a budget late. And we need budget too late. And we need that happen. So whatever he that to happen. So whatever he does, whatever tinkering that he does, whatever tinkering that he does basically be crumbs for the pigeons. Thats what thats what i to crumbs for the i expect to see. Crumbs for the pigeons the pigeons. Pigeons and the pigeons. Brooks, thing ive adam brooks, one thing ive got sort hit back there got sort of hit back there is that, look, rates have that, look, Interest Rates have gone every country gone up in nearly every country around the world. Gone up in nearly every country arorlsd the world. Gone up in nearly every country aroris that world. Gone up in nearly every country aroris that liz rld. Gone up in nearly every country aroris that liz trusss fault as is that liz trusss fault as well . Is that the tories fault . No its not. A trend that no its not. Its a trend that was caused a lot by covid and a lot of, um, a lot of bad policies. Uh, in the west over the last few years. Look, the the last few years. Look, the tax burden in this country is so high, you know, its almost become its almost not worth working in certain sectors. You know, i say i charge £5 for a pint. Ive got to collect a pint. Ive got to collect a pound of that and give it to the vat man. You know , other vat man. You know, other countries have a 10 vat rate for hospitality and tourism for a reason. Tax cuts will a reason. Tax cuts will stimulate this country and this economy. And what people keep a lot on the left, keep arguing about tax cuts are where were going to find this money. Tax cuts can generate money because when you allow companies to keep more of their profits, they reinvest, they hire more people. I think people spend in those businesses tax cuts can generate money. And i think youll find its where those tax cuts land. If theyif where those tax cuts land. If they if they land where they normally land, which is in the top , the top echelon of the top, the top echelon of the richest, its not going to do nothing. Okay. Theyre already there. It needs to effect if youre going to do it in any shape or form, it needs to be taken from the from the workers. If you like the people at the lowest, level , the people lowest, lowest level, the people who struggling, the people lowest, lowest level, the people who are struggling, the people lowest, lowest level, the people who are are|ggling, the people lowest, lowest level, the people who are are now1g, the people lowest, lowest level, the people who are are now at the people lowest, lowest level, the people who are are now at food eople lowest, lowest level, the people who are are now at food banks that didnt have. If that we didnt have. So if youre be looking at youre going to be looking at what at happened and why, what at whats happened and why, its happened, had its happened, well, weve had this for 14 years this government for 14 years now, so theres nobody else to blame. Its them. Look, whats happened. And this is how i feel. A lot of the time, is that the taxman is my partner, and hes suddenly hes majority partner. Hes hes the majority partner. Hes not putting in the work or they are not putting in the work, and theyve that theyve not got the risk that ive so a lot of businesses ive got. So a lot of businesses are feeling the pinch, especially hospitality. We need a vat and theres some big a vat cut and theres some big names industry pushing for names in my industry pushing for this and ive been pushing for this, and ive been pushing for it for years. If you cut vat it for two years. If you cut vat to 10 or 12 in hospitality , to 10 or 12 in hospitality, you would stimulate an industry thatis you would stimulate an industry that is struggling. Now, a lot that is struggling. Now, a lot of these, you know, a lot of these policies that jeremy hunt presides over will see your local pub go out of business in the next one, or two years. Its the next one, or two years. Its the hardest its ever been. Ive been a publican nearly 20 years, andifs been a publican nearly 20 years, and its almost becoming not worth doing , you know . And it worth doing, you know . And it breaks my heart because i think the pub is, is like the front room and sitting room of so many people, especially elderly people, especially elderly people, and its their social life. And this government and life. And this government and previous government have just sat there and watched the pub , sat there and watched the pub, the pub industry. But, uh, but arade dam you, you are with respect , you are talking with respect, you are talking with vested interests , obviously. Vested interests, obviously. Everyones talking with well, everyones talking with well, necessarily because , well, not necessarily because, you know, because we can look at people whove not got lot of people whove not got a lot of money say , youve got to people whove not got a lot of m0|them say , youve got to people whove not got a lot of m0|them up. Ay , youve got to lift them up. Not not keep them down. And then by the way, then they would turn pub be able turn up in your pub and be able to little bit more. If to spend a little bit more. If you you used to cut vat on a you if you used to cut vat on a lot, a lot products, could, lot, a lot of products, i could, i pass on. I could pass that on. And the consumer is and then the consumer is better pint is better off because their pint is suddenly cheaper. More suddenly cheaper. Theres more money in their pocket maybe money in their pocket to maybe have pint or or to spend have another pint or or to spend elsewhere or reduce their taxes. Theres more. Its both. And theres more. Its both. Its rather than its both ways rather than a wish list. What do you reckon is going as well . Going to happen as well . Think the viewers i dont think the viewers also our beer tax is like also know our beer tax is like 14 times that of germany. Why . 14 times that of germany. Why . Why have we got such high taxes in this country . Its not as if our services are brilliant. And well, you might ask, wheres the money gone . You might know , 14 years might ask, you know, 14 years and wheres it all gone . I think and wheres it all gone . I think squandered and right. Squandered the left and right. Wed all agree that wed want the big the amazons and the Big Companies to pay more tax in this country. Were being this country. But were being held to ransom by a lot of those countries just held to ransom by a lot of those countrto just held to ransom by a lot of those countrto pull just held to ransom by a lot of those countrto pull out. Just held to ransom by a lot of those countrto pull out. Thenjust threat to pull out. And then suddenly hundreds of suddenly its hundreds of thousands are lost. Thousands of jobs that are lost. So governments are being blackmailed by a multi billion pound corporation. Pound corporation. So, adam, i said i said, um, crumbs for the pigeons. Thats what i expect to happen. That will be bits here, bits there, and there wont be a Massive Movement either direction. Movement in either direction. A couple political couple of political political statements. Thats because statements. Thats because theres an election coming and thats the thats going to look rosy in the daily mail and the telegraph and places like what do you places like that. What do you think actually going think is actually going to happen as i dont know, because i dont trust a jeremy hunt says. I think he was. We can agree he one of worst he was one of the worst appointments chancellor. I appointments as chancellor. I mean, during covid, he was the most authoritarian most authoritative authoritarian figure you could have figure that you could have found. He wanted people dragged out had for out of their houses that had for covid christs sake. You know how our chancellor . How he is our chancellor . I dont know, he hes not trusted by a lot of mps that i speak to. Hes not trusted the hes not trusted by the membership of the tory. Why did they it . Know i they do it . You know so well . I have confidence in him have no confidence in him helping or others. Yeah, but helping me or others. Yeah, but the point hes making, though, is the immoral whitehall waste. Weve agree with him weve probably agree with him that whitehall is overbloated. Theyve about 60 or so theyve got about 60 or so thousand more Civil Servants than they before covid. And than they had before covid. And you know, during covid, theyve increased the number. We could go back pre pandemic levels go back to pre pandemic levels and fortune. And save a fortune. Kind dangerous in a its kind of dangerous in a way, were talking way, because if were talking about reducing from 60 about 60,000 or reducing from 60 to thats 30,000 votes, he to 30, thats 30,000 votes, he wont get election. As wont get in the election. As you this is going be. You said, this is going to be. Well, doesnt necessarily well, that doesnt necessarily work way because he work out that way because he removes people removes the jobs from people who are nothing. Removes the jobs from people who are lets nothing. Removes the jobs from people who are lets remember , theres lets remember, theres people jobs during people that got jobs during covid in the civil service. Theyre sitting home theyre still sitting at home in their other their pyjamas watching other stations. You know, uh , and stations. You know, uh, and getting paid for it. These people are being paid needlessly. A lot of these jobs are needless. Its like the nhs. Theres middle managers that have meetings for meeting , but have meetings for a meeting, but this always comes around, doesnt it . It always around too it always comes around as too many many there. Many and theres too many there. And this is the way to do it. So we can give the rich a little bit its not. I think bit more. No, its not. I think thats well see. I think thats what i well see. I think its pigeons will its the fattest pigeons will get crumbs. The get the biggest crumbs. Well the fat be the fat i would expect would be the slowest fly. Slowest ones to fly. Wont. So they wont. So they wont. Theyre already flying. Theyre already flying. Theyre already flying. Theyre already flying. Theyre flying out of this country because they dont like the the taxis. Thats the look of the taxis. Thats whats thats whats happening. And thats ultimately problem ultimately the problem with these. Ridiculous high these. This ridiculous high taxes. If they carry on this way, lot way, well lose a lot of investment this country. But investment in this country. But what do you think gb views that gb tweet at gb gb news. Com or tweet me at gb news. I want to move on to this story stop story because new plans to stop hate preachers coming the uk hate preachers coming to the uk make will they make any difference under new government measures, dangerous measures, the most dangerous extremists from countries including afghanistan , pakistan including afghanistan, pakistan and indonesia will be added to visa warning lists now. Officials could then automatically refuse entry to individuals identified as posing a threat to Public Safety , and a threat to Public Safety, and this move comes after growing concerns over rising extremism , concerns over rising extremism, which the Prime Minister highlighted in his speech on friday night. But will these plans actually make a difference in any way . I thought hate preaching was illegal anyway. Adam brooks , so did i. Adam brooks, so did i. I mean, all those years ago , i mean, all those years ago, i remember, dont know how i remember, i dont know how long guy with long it was. The guy with the hook, abu yeah, you know hook, abu hamza. Yeah, you know why . Why can these people still come and preach come to this country and preach their hatred and make their threats . At the end of the day, if i was to go to Parliament Green or, you know, somewhere green or or, you know, somewhere like that outside downing street , 50 of my mates and start , you , 50 of my mates and start, you know, really aggressively talking about Mass Immigration and chanting and that i would probably be hit with a baton. Probably be hit with a baton. Id probably be arrested, you know , its the two tier policing know, its the two tier policing that we see. These people are allowed speakers allowed to go to Speakers Corner, their call corner, spread their hate call for jihad, and nothing happens. Forjihad, and nothing happens. Yeah, but Speakers Corner was supposed to be a sort of free speech platform. But i free speech platform. But i suppose you shouldnt be breaking the youre breaking the law when youre doing this comes right doing it. Um, this comes right up against the libertarians, doesnt up against the libertarians, doesnin up against the libertarians, doesn in speech. So they as in free speech. So they want free speech. But if its them thats speaking, theres a bit of that going on. Look , bit of that going on. Now look, nobody who wants free speech and its a bit of the libertarians , its a bit of the libertarians, the people who say, you know, you can go out there and say what want, you want, what you want, where you want, and them , um, and theres enough of them, um, in as well. In this place as well. But its within the parameters democracy. So of parameters of democracy. So of course, difference between course, the difference between freedom speech that freedom of speech is that theres acceptance theres a democratic acceptance of, a certain level of of, sorry, a certain level of speech. And then if you have, youre in an authoritarian state, theyll determine what you can. Think we whats missing so i think we whats missing here whats is here and whats missing out is sunak defined as sunak speech was defined as hate. Define it because i think myself and adam would agree that at the top end of that, um , at the top end of that, um, yeah, im pretty certain , but yeah, im pretty certain, but but its quite a difficult thing to say. Who who is who is crossing that line . Crossing that line . Where is he when youve got threats to jewish people and the jewish and the other way around, and when youve got calls for jihad gets done, you jihad and nothing gets done, you know videos know, ive seen videos on twitter youve got twitter where youve got metropolitan standing metropolitan Police Standing there and someones calling for jihad and the death of jews, and they havent even arrested them. You know, if anything, theyre thinking, ill ignore that. Thinking, oh, ill ignore that. We cant ignore it. These are extremists on our street and the metropolitan. But will these metropolitan. But will these nothing but will these new laws actually encompass that . Because from what im gathering , they are people from gathering, they are people from indonesia and all these other places. But what about the actual hate speech that is here within . If theyve actual hate speech that is here witinew . If theyve actual hate speech that is here witinew laws, . If theyve actual hate speech that is here witinew laws, they . If theyve actual hate speech that is here witinew laws, they could eyve actual hate speech that is here witinew laws, they could have got new laws, they could have already done that to the people here. Well, have been arrested. I back i go back to the to the question defining question about defining hate because , well, were talking because, well, if were talking about small hate h, about hate with a small hate h, then be talking about, then we might be talking about, for example, throwing 30 for example, not throwing 30 people out the party, which people out of the party, which effectively he did because of what he said now was that the same hate . No, no. But it was it same hate . No, no. But it was it was enough to, to for him to lose the party whip. So as i said, its a moving sort of target. I, a lot of people dont agree with that. But look an important , agree with that. But look an important, uh, point here is that france managed to deport a hate cleric or a hate speaker. Um, within hours of that person , um, within hours of that person, uh, being in france, why cant we do that . And ill tell you why. Because the left wing, the left wing media and probably labour mps would probably oppose the deportation flight. Thats what weve got a problem here. Weve got a left that seemed to always side with the wrongdoer. Well, i well leave it there. Well come back to you. What you think at home . Gb views at gb news. Tweet me at gb news. News. Com tweet me at gb news. This the clash. Joining me this is the clash. Joining me for jim dale. Also for that is jim dale. And also adam akua. This adam brookside nana akua. This is a gb news on tv online and on Digital Radio coming up, a Girls Football league faces being shut down for refusing to allow a boy to play. Whats that . The right call. But next hour drivers scared of change. An electric car manufacturing boss blames motorists for the slow uptake in evs good afternoon 24 minutes after 3 00, this is gb news we are the peoples channel. Im nana akua at his time for the clash. Our drivers scared of change. Theres the chief executive of polestar , europes electric car polestar, europes electric car pioneer has blamed the slow adoption of evs on drivers fear of change. Right. The ev market is experiencing a downturn and with regulatory scrutiny on the rise, ev manufacturers face significant hurdles in achieving their goals. But is it really down to drivers being scared of change . Or could it be that electric cars are just too expensive . Right. So joining me expensive . Right. So joining me to discuss jim dale , to discuss jim dale, meteorologist and social commentator and adam brooks, businessman and activist who went first last time adam did so i it must lam it must be me. It must be me. You were ready for your turn. You were ready for your turn. Yeah. Yeah. Me me on then, jim dale. Home ground, home ground. This one. Um. Thats i this one. Um. Thats what i thought. Degree, thought. Well, to a degree, anyway, this is anyway, because this is this is environment, change. Environment, Climate Change. Well, no, ive got to give some background because its important. . So are people important. Why so . So are people scared of changing their car to electric i think yes , i think i electric i think yes, i think i think people are always scared of change. I think its a natural element in us all. Yes, whatever it is, scared of Climate Change. Maybe. Maybe. Well yeah. Absolutely. Um, some people are scared of it and therefore they deny it. And thats the truth of it. No, some people realise its happening, they dont happening, but they dont believe that theres can happening, but they dont be|about1at theres can happening, but they dont be|about1at thats; can happening, but they dont be|about1atthats; denial. an do about it. Thats not denial. A different well, thats a different matter, why i wrote matter, which is why i wrote the book. A book. But anyway, thats a separate. Yeah, separate matter. Look, yeah, people of people are naturally scared of change, it change, and i dont think it matters were talking matters what were talking about. Actually, natural about. Actually, its a natural thing, bigger thing, but theres a bigger one, and is the cost of and i think that is the cost of living. Thats are living. Thats where we are at this in time. And i think this moment in time. And i think its electric cars. I its not just electric cars. I think probably going to be think its probably going to be cars other words, cars per se. In other words, its an expensive item. The second expensive item that second most expensive item that anybody generally anybody ever buys. Generally speaking. Um, and therefore its speaking. Um, and therefore its got a ceiling. And in this, this environment and not just in this country, but other countries as well, its difficult. Youve obviously never bought an you think an engagement ring. If you think thats a second most expensive thing. Adam brooks, look, thing. Crikey adam brooks, look, l, thing. Crikey adam brooks, look, i, i like the idea of an electric car. And i know friends that have got them. But all i hear is moaning, you know, they go on long trips and suddenly they cant a charger. We not cant find a charger. We do not have the infrastructure in this country to have millions and millions electric cars. And millions of electric cars. And all this about Climate Change going forward, where are we going forward, where are we going to get the electricity from . You know, our electricity is mostly sourced by gas in this country , so were not doing the country, so were not doing the climate any better by having electric cars come on, that is a myth. And at the end of the day, these electric cars are so expensive, the insurance , my expensive, the insurance, my insurance has gone through the roof because of people with electric theyre going electric cars. Theyre going wrong you know, if they wrong there, you know, if they ever theyre normally ever crash, theyre normally written a diesel written off. Whereas a diesel car petrol car can be, uh, car and a petrol car can be, uh, repaired. This is not the repaired. This is not the future. Im sorry. Electric cars. This is the future. It is not the future, i think. I think were end up with a hydrogen. No, no, no, i think hydrogen will end up being the future this. So. But electric future of this. So. But electric cars are being on cars are being pushed on everyone like they are. You know, this magic thing. Theyre not half the people in this country do not have a drive or they in a flat, so they they live in a flat, so they cant cars. Is cant charge their cars. It is not the future. It really isnt. Not the future. It really isnt. I say. I say many, many times on this programme that this, this this is an evolution, this is this is an evolution, not a revolution. And youre right, infrastructure, right, with the infrastructure, its at moment in its not there at this moment in time. Um, some of its there and time. Um, some of its there and it growing. And look abroad it is growing. And look abroad to places like china and germany. Theyre going in one direction. And by the way , if direction. And by the way, if were looking the green were looking at the green environment the green environment or the green economy, if you like their economies economy, if you like their ec01last es economy, if you like their ec01last over the last year, the the last over the last year, the uk economy has risen by, oh, its flat actually 0. 1. Thats why we can use the word recession. Okay. The green economy, on the other hand , has economy, on the other hand, has gone up by 0. 9, which is eight times more than the normal economy or the general economy. Economy or the general economy. Therefore, this is a one way street. Believe me , if you if street. Believe me, if you if this country is not on it, we will pay a massive, massive price. So more than the one were paying so more than the one were paying already. Look, a lot of people have looked at this electric car con and seen it for just that. They have. You need to have somewhere to charge as adam points out, im not scared of those things. Im of one of those things. Im petrified. Theyre petrified. Yeah, theyre about three theyre heavier three tonnes, so theyre heavier than car. Theyre than any normal car. Theyre breaking car parks, destroying tyres. You cant charge them tyres. You cant charge them anywhere unless youve got. Sorry, finishing now. Unless sorry, im finishing now. Unless i interrupt jim. I didnt interrupt you, jim. Ill speak at this ill let you speak at this point. Unless youve got point. So so unless youve got 45 minutes and most women. We dont driving dont want to be driving somewhere, to always somewhere, then have to always run im to run out of charge. Im going to wait im woman on my own wait here. Im a woman on my own in an ev, waiting for it to charge. Predator will know. Charge. Any predator will know. Oh, a really good stop oh, this is a really good stop out this person cannot out because this person cannot leave i think leave. These are. I think theyre not only dangerous, i think theyre awful. They dont think theyre awful. They dont even what theyre meant to even do what theyre meant to do. Lets tackle this lets also lets tackle this myth great for the myth that theyre great for the climate. Ive seen ive seen the videos twitter the, the videos on on twitter of the, the poor african kids that videos on on twitter of the, the poo digginglfrican kids that videos on on twitter of the, the poo digginglfri videos on on twitter of the, the poodigginglfri you cant the you cant compare the difficulties of the difficulties of electric with, with, as if the oil and petrol has been okay forever and dont ever get is it okay, dont ever get is it okay jim, for the ten year olds to be mining . No, its not okay. Absolutely not okay. Youre supporting. No, no im not supporting. No, no im not supporting got to supporting that. Thats got to be countries be answered by the countries that do that okay. That actually do that okay. Thats thats from them. Why thats thats why thats why thats why unions exist in order to stamp that kind of thing out. So thats not a reason for going forward. Thats a massive area. Area. Can you tell me where the batteries are going to go . Because these things, you cant just them bin where because these things, you cant justa them bin where because these things, you cant justa specialist bin where because these things, you cant justa specialist to in where because these things, you cant justa specialist to gethere its a specialist thing to get rid of a lithium battery. Where are to in the end, are they going to be in the end, as to you, its an as i said to you, its an evolution, revolution. Evolution, not a revolution. Through that. Were halfway through that. Well, not even halfway through it, direction it, but its a one direction make absolutely clear. Make this absolutely clear. Weve to on board. I weve got to be on board. I dont know, dont is dont know, you dont know is the i know because the answer. I dont know because thats my job. Thats not my job. Say its greener you cant say its greener then, batteries then, because these batteries are polluting. Dont are highly polluting. They dont know where theyre going go. Know where theyre going to go. The biggest the big one of the biggest advocate of anti electric cars , advocate of anti electric cars, richard tice okay, leader of reform party. Yes. Drives one. Keepsit reform party. Yes. Drives one. Keeps it very to himself doesnt he. Keeps it to himself. So you he. Keeps it to himself. So you wonder why dont you. That what somebody like that. Whats your point . The point is, is an hypocrite. Are hypocrite. And there are hypocrites there in all hypocrites out there in all senses. Dont drive an senses. I dont drive an electric i drive an hybrid electric car. I drive an hybrid because halfway there. The because im halfway there. The evolution, well. Evolution, not there as well. No, because i see the answer for richard. No, because i see the answer for riciand hes looking, ill and if hes looking, ill tell what. Richard a big tell you what. Richard is a big man panels. Hes got man with solar panels. Hes got solar panels everywhere. Think solar panels everywhere. I think on so solar on his house. So the solar panels actually charge his car for free. So hes made hes made a cost saving there. That is why i but but he goes on and advocates against Climate Change, etc. A lot of it is not believing it. Listen, just because youve chosen to get an ev because you can actually get the electricity for free, which concept for free, which was the concept of it first place, of it in the first place, doesnt mean that youre necessarily going to hang on. Excuse necessarily necessarily going to hang on. Excuse youre necessarily necessarily going to hang on. Excuse youre goingzssarily mean that youre going to advocate for everybody to advocate for everybody else to do they cannot get a free do it. If they cannot get a free electricity like but electricity source like his. But anyway, will stay anyway, that will come. Stay tune it hasnt. Tune this. Yes, but it hasnt. Its so its not its not here. So its not exactly helping, is it . 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Next, though, will sir Keir Starmers ban on zero hour contracts destroy jobs and empower unions . Will be discussing that next . Dont go anywhere. 37 after three. This is gb news. We are the peoples channel. Dont forget as well you can download the gb news app for free and check out the things on the channel. Im nana akua and its the channel. Im nana akua and wsfime the channel. Im nana akua and its time for the clash on the menu. Now will sir Keir Starmers ban on zero hour contracts destroyed jobs and empower unions . While some workers and businesses say that they offer flexibility, critics argue those on zero hour contracts lack job security and bafic contracts lack job security and basic rights. The labour leader has also pledged to ban the contracts as part of his broader new deal for working people, which he says will strengthen workers rights and empower unions. However, opponents warn it could lead to job losses , it could lead to job losses, increased costs for businesses and less dynamic workforce, as well. So is and less dynamic workforce, as well. So is this the right move for labour as an election looms . So joining me are my clashes at james daly virologist and commentator. Also adam brooks. Commentator. Also adam brooks. Hes a businessman and activist, which im going to ask you first, adam brooks zero hour contracts. Wants to ban them. Contracts. He wants to ban them. Its absolute madness. Um, so its absolute madness. Um, so not not only are the labour party funded by the unions , party funded by the unions, theyre being controlled by the unions. This is a disaster for hospitality, hospitality relies on the flexibility of having workers. You know , especially workers. You know, especially seasonal businesses as well. But seasonal businesses as well. But a lot of the workers rely on that flexibility, too. So this that flexibility, too. So this is going to hurt a lot of businesses and a lot of jobs. I think its going to shut many pubs, many , many restaurants and pubs, many, many restaurants and its going to its going to create job losses throughout the sector. This is an awful move. And i urge to labour rethink. Well, theyre quite dead set on it. They said this a few times. Jim dale. On it. They said this a few times. Jirtheyle. Said a few yeah they have said it a few times. Going to be how its times. Its going to be how its managed opposed what it managed as opposed to what it is. , do you is. And i think, what do you mean . Well , well, how mean . I think, well, well, how its how its brought its managed, how its brought in , the where its in the time, the time where its where applies first, it might where it applies first, it might be might be different sectors it appues be might be different sectors it applies and not in others to applies in and not in others to begin with. Uh, i dont think its necessarily going to land on on the doormat day on the on the doormat one day after election. I dont after the election. I dont think that within 100 days this is daily mail story. Is a this is a daily mail story. So mail, no , no putting so daily mail, no, no putting out theyre flagging out there. Theyre flagging up stuff to trouble. No. Stuff to cause trouble. No. Hang on. No, no. Go on but hang on. No, no. Go on then. Just say that and then just be carry on breeze over it. No. This no. Theyre not. This is something, agreed something, as you even agreed with just earlier, the with me just earlier, that the labour have been dishing labour party have been dishing this few this out and saying this a few times. So its just times. Yeah, so its not just the mail, its how it the daily mail, but its how it is but im just is managed. Yeah, but im just just your just coming back to your previous saying that previous point and saying that thats the thats incorrect. Yeah. So the bottom you say how bottom line is when you say how it managed, theyre saying it is managed, theyre saying that theyre that within 100 days theyre going of zero hour going to get rid of zero hour contracts. A contracts. I mean, that is a serious that means that serious thing. That means that people have enjoyed the people who have enjoyed the flexibility will longer flexibility will now no longer have that. Also a moral but its also a moral question, it, about people question, isnt it, about people turning theres turning up for work . And theres none about hanging none there about people hanging off, remember, you know, for the none there about people hanging off, repart, ber, you know, for the none there about people hanging off, repart, people] know, for the none there about people hanging off, repart, people lookingfor the none there about people hanging off, repart, people looking at the most part, people looking at this programme need to understand, wealth doesnt understand, well, wealth doesnt drip downwards. It drips upwards. And i know that sounds a bit of a quandary, but thats the point. You get the workers , point. You get the workers, those that have been held down, held back, you get them to, you know , bit. Well, weve already know, bit. Well, weve already talked about tax a bit more money in their pockets , start to money in their pockets, start to be spending in pubs and others. Most of these zero your money back zero contract workers want that flexibility. So at the end of the day look im a pub owner. You know its the been in the 20 the toughest its been in the 20 years ive been doing it. Years that ive been doing it. My years that ive been doing it. My between 25 and my wage costs are between 25 and 30 of my takings only in april. Coming the wage rise comes in. Its going to cost me another £300 a week. Where do i find that £300 ive got to put my pnces that £300 ive got to put my prices up. You know thats not thats being forced upon me now. Thats being forced upon me now. We all want higher wages for people. But whats going to people. But whats going to happen across the country come april is lot of small april is a lot of Small Businesses and especially in hospitals. We cannot afford to hospitals. We cannot afford to put the wages up. So what they put the wages up. So what they do is they cut back. People are going to lose jobs. Do is they cut back. People are going to lose jobs. So this is going to lose jobs. So this is not, you know , what labour are not, you know, what labour are thinking. They theyre doing some sort of brilliant move for the workers here. This is going to cost jobs and its going to cost businesses. Cost businesses. Why do you think that this is based Keir Starmers based on Keir Starmers inexperience lack of inexperience and lack of understanding as to the benefits that to zero hours that apply to zero hours contracts, the kind of contracts, and the kind of people take them readily, people who take them readily, they would done, would they would have done, they would have research. Have done their research. This they know exactly what this means. Means. Do you think . I dont think they no. They do. I think no. You honestly believe that do you honestly believe that theyre going do this . And as theyre going to do this . And as you put it, take away jobs as opposed to create a consequence . Opposed to create a consequence . It will happen. Well, look, i think they get better advice than that. Really and truly. Than that. Really and truly. But remember remember there 30 years, 28 billion energy, green energy plan. I mean, if theyve got such good advice that they had to backtrack on that they had to backtrack on that too. So i wouldnt that that too. So i wouldnt use that as argument. That too. So i wouldnt use that as wellgument. That too. So i wouldnt use that as well ,jment. That too. So i wouldnt use that as well, letst. That too. So i wouldnt use that as well , lets not go back into well, lets not go back into the climate argument because it could be here all day on it. But but all i would say to you is that this is a moral move. Its also move. Theyre that this is a moral move. Its alsc stupid. Move. Theyre that this is a moral move. Its alsc stupid. Theyreyve. Theyre that this is a moral move. Its alsc stupid. Theyre absolutely not stupid. Theyre absolutely not stupid. Theyre absolutely not stupid. They getting not stupid. They are getting best. S and i maintain best advice. S and i maintain the fact that this will be a managed system, not landing on your doormat the day after a general election. So i think you general election. So i think you will find that the places like your own adam will probably not be sucked into that to begin with, and it will be a kind of, uh, evolution , not revolution. Uh, evolution, not revolution. And thats what i would expect to see if the Labour Government rules for some sectors. Yes, you can for others, i think you can. Why theres plenty of why not . Theres plenty of rules this moment. Why not . Theres plenty of rules no, this moment. Why not . Theres plenty of rules no, says this moment. Why not . Theres plenty of rules no, says here. Moment. Well, no, it says here. Me make life difficult. Hes planning ban them. Hes planning to ban them. Hes planning to ban them. Hes. Listen, hes planning to not theyve to ban them. Thats not theyve not parameters. Not set the parameters. So if youre make statement youre going to make a Statement Like youre like that, that means youre going them. And going to get rid of them. And actually empower unions actually it will empower unions that people. That will empower people. People will then will join unions. Unions then have control. Have power. And also control. You see what happens when people have power. And also control. Yotonee what happens when people have power. And also control. Yoton strike. happens when people have power. And also control. Yoton strike. Everybody when people have power. And also control. Yoton strike. Everybody goes people have power. And also control. Yoton strike. Everybody goes onyple go on strike. Everybody goes on strike and suddenly you the workforce comes to a halt. What about single mother . About a single mother . Got and she thats got a child and she she has a flexible, uh, job she she has a flexible, uh, job in a pub or a restaurant and, and the restaurant works around that for her. It suits them both the worker and the business. Suddenly they ban this. How are suddenly they ban this. How are we going to work around that . How is that the same time that single mom, that single mom might turn up . Not necessarily at your pub, adam, other places. A single adam, but other places. A single mom or a single dad, whoever happens to be. And theres no work. In other words, they are. They are. Yes. Quite no , no, thats the quite no, no, thats the whole point. No, you do show up and turned away. And you get turned away. And thats become more and more of a problem. I think youre sort of exaggerating i exaggerating that because i, i worked hour contracts worked on zero hour contracts for certain jobs. It suited me so i so what were saying is banning something outright when there are people who benefit from it and who need that level of flexibility, will put those people work, and it will people out of work, and it will make difficult for employers. I think word banning is i think the word banning is too well, thats what too strong. Well, thats what theyre thats the theyre saying. Thats what the daily and i make daily mail is saying. And i make it clear. Look, it absolutely clear. Look, theres reason the daily theres a reason why the daily mail up these mail would come up with these type of words. Hold on. No, just not hold on. No, thats just not fair. Allow to fair. I cant allow you to say that starmer and his that when keir starmer and his party have said that theyre going to ban, have they have they the word they they actually used the word they have used the word yes. Okay well, well well see. Well see when, when the manifestos get written whether not get written whether or not the word there. And ill word ban is in there. And ill bet the Bottom Dollar it bet you to the Bottom Dollar it will do a good will not be wants to do a good thing into power, thing when they come into power, because power. Is getting of these is getting some of these people cities that can people off their cities that can work that claim benefits knowing that can work. You know, that they can work. You know, they in they cant they put in that they cant work. Theres so many people in this that are able to this country that are able to work and do not work. Yeah, thats different subject. Thats a different subject. Lets get them back. Back in and contributing society. Okay. Contributing to society. Okay. So im just going to point this jim dale in the this out to you, jim dale in the guardian. Guardian labour this out to you, jim dale in the guar pledged rdian labour this out to you, jim dale in the guar pledged to an labour this out to you, jim dale in the guar pledged to ban labour this out to you, jim dale in the guar pledged to ban zero bour this out to you, jim dale in the guar pledged to ban zero hour have pledged to ban zero hour contracts. Yes. End farage, which i dont think is a bad thing. So what do you now make . Thing. So what do you now make . Ive given you another source. You give me another. You give me another. Daily not the not a daily mail, not the daily mail. Not a daily mail, not the dai but. Ail. Not a daily mail, not the dai but itl. The party but it isnt the labour party manifesto. These are. Manifesto. No, no, these are. Now youve found another. No. Okay thats absolutely fine. Thats problem but thats thats no problem. But were opposed were talking media as opposed to actuality manifestos. When to actuality of manifestos. When the manifestos get printed and you read them you will find and im you know, ill come back here and well see whether the word ban is used, because i bet it will. Okay. So this is this is on the labour Party Website. Labour will ban zero hour contracts and outlaw fire and rehire. That is on the labour. Give up the ghost website. Give up the ghost website. Give up the ghost website. Are you looking at the im reading website . The website , the labour party the website, the labour Party Website says , and ill quote website says, and ill quote you, labour will ban zero hour contracts, ban over what period . Well, they said theyll bring them in within 100 days. Thats the difference. Thats the difference. So now youre finding another end. So so now youre finding another end. So now youre finding another. No listen, what i another. No no no listen, what i would to you, would suggest to you, what i would suggest to you, what i would to is go and would suggest to you is go and read labour Party Website, read the labour Party Website, because says it quite happily because it says it quite happily there. Plan to zero there. They plan to ban zero hour contracts, but that on that bombshell jim dale. Stay tuned. This is gb news on tv, online and on Digital Radio. Coming up, the Great British debate. Ill be asking, have you lost faith in the Government Spending taxpayers money . But next, a top Girls Football league faces backlash for refusing to let a boy play in a girls game. Is that the right call . You wont want to miss it. Good afternoon. This is the clash youre watching and listening to gb news. Im nana akua. Were live on tv, online and on Digital Radio. Next up , a and on Digital Radio. Next up, a top Girls Football league is facing being shut down for refusing to allow a boy to play in its matches. The football in its matches. The Football Association has clashed with west riding Girls Football league over the inclusion of a boy in its matches, igniting a heated debate over gender policy in youth sports. Now the league home to thousands of under 18 girls, faces possible sanctions for refusing to allow the boy to play. And with tensions escalating, the decision to ban or allow the boy to play raises broader questions about inclusivity and protection of girls in sport. So are the league right to refuse to allow boys . Im going to start with boys . Im going to start with you, adam, because its a big topic for adam. We will come to you, jim. Adam so its the fa, isnt it . That that the league do not that that are the league do not want boys, but its the fa. Want the boys, but its the fa. Look, passionate on look, im very passionate on pushing back against this trans agenda. Im one of the loudest voices on twitter for it because its madness. These local authorities, you know, are putting girls and women at risk. Ive got a young ten year old daughter that plays football. Do daughter that plays football. Do you think i could stand on the sidelines and allow a boy to, you know, two foot tackle her or pick her up and throw her . I would not be able to stay calm. Only weeks ago, i think it only a few weeks ago, i think it was week the week was last week or the week before. An america before. We see an america on the basketball a six boy basketball court, a six foot boy or man throwing girls around and injuring them. Theres a big scientific difference between a man and a woman, a boy and a girl that is proven. Sharon davis has tweeted it every day. Davis has tweeted it every day. Shes shes a real warrior with this, we have to push back. What is this trans agenda that they keep trying to force on us and our children . Men should not be playing against women. Girls playing against women. Girls should not be playing against boys. Should not be playing against boys. Its dangerous. Its boys. Its dangerous. Its unfair , and it needs to stop. Unfair, and it needs to stop. And if this league wants some sort of army behind them, very happy to whip up twitter and the media to push back against the fa because this has to stop. Okay , so im going to declare okay, so im going to declare an interest. Okay, so im going to declare an interest. 20 okay, so im going to declare an interest. 20 years okay, so im going to declare an interest. 20 years ago i used to be a girl. Sorry, are a football coach. Uh, at junior football coach. Uh, at junior and youth level. And there was a and youth level. And there was a im. In fact, im very proud to say we had one of the first girls teams, all girls teams and, and at that time , uh, there and, and at that time, uh, there was, there was an age limit where it had to be segregated. I think it was around 14,13, where it had to be segregated. I think it was around 14, 13, 14. So you could have a mixed team , so you could have a mixed team, six, seven, eight, nine, ten, 11, 12, 13, maybe. Um, six, seven, eight, nine, ten, 11, 12,13, maybe. Um, and six, seven, eight, nine, ten, 11, 12, 13, maybe. Um, and that 11, 12, 13, maybe. Um, and that was that was fantastic. Why . Was that was fantastic. Why . Because physical size was more or less the same. There was no real differential. The reason that the faa at the time suggested that, uh, there had to be a change at that point was the physicality. So i do agree with adam on this. I dont want to go into the world or the anti world world. This is this is this is safety and putting this is about safety and putting you know full well you see if you know full well you see if you watch ladies football versus mens football you can see primarily the massive difference haaland versus kelly of um of Manchester City for example. My Manchester City for example. My team are not doing so well at the moment. I believe. Um, but nonetheless, what im what im what im pointing out here. This is is all about physicality is this is all about physicality and not mixing the sexes as they get older. Get older. Yeah. Theres two words that you said there. Its safety and you said there. Its safety and its fairness as well. Yeah. Yeah. Trans women or trans girls in womens sports. Take that away. Womens sports. Take that away. And theres no arguing with it. I will say now , any trans woman i will say now, any trans woman thatis i will say now, any trans woman that is in a womans sport is a cheat, and it has to stop. This is madness. Is madness. Well, listen, they finally agreed. Crikey. So you more or agreed. Crikey. So you more or less good. Well, ish they do agree. Well, theres lots of. You have been getting in touch with your thoughts on the things weve been discussing throughout with your thoughts on the things weshow. N discussing throughout with your thoughts on the things weshow. 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The Great British debate this has you this hour. Im asking has you have faith in the have you lost faith in the government money . Government spending our money . And in monologue , ill tell and in my monologue, ill tell you what i think about the london theatre thats hosting you what i think about the londorforleatre thats hosting you what i think about the londorfor black thats hosting you what i think about the londorfor black onlys hosting you what i think about the londorfor black only audiences. Shows for black only audiences. But first, lets get an update with your. Weather a brighter with your. Weather a brighter outlook with boxt solar sponsors of weather on. Gb news. Of weather on. Gb news. Hello there and Greg Dewhurst and welcome to your latest gb news weather. Its quite a cold night tonight. Some frost and dense fog patches once more and then all eyes to the west as the next area of low pressure moves in. But its going to its in. But its going to take its time. Areas time. Western areas seeing outbreaks rain through outbreaks of rain through monday. And eastern monday. Northern and eastern areas holding to weather areas holding on to dry weather until later this evening, though skies are clearing and temperatures are starting to fall away overnight. Well see quite a widespread frost developing where winds are light, will see some mist and fog patches forming freezing fog patches temperatures fall patches as temperatures fall below freezing in the countryside. So there could be some tricky travelling conditions. First thing, particularly across central southern parts of the uk. Further west, however, the winds start to increase. Outbreaks of start to increase. Outbreaks of rain start to push in and then this slowly moves north and eastwards through the day. On monday, some heavier bursts in there possible , though parts of there possible, though parts of scotland, northern and eastern parts of england will stay dry for much of the day. Plenty of sunny spells here and the winds coming the south, coming in from the south, temperatures lifting a little higher the weekend. Highs higher than the weekend. Highs around 12 in the best of around 12 celsius in the best of any brighter weather in the south, then into tuesday, weather systems start to clear away. Were left with a legacy of showers across some western areas, but therell be plenty of sunny spells through the day. 1 or 2 of the showers could be on the heavy side the next few days. Largely remains dry. Days. It largely remains dry. Therell bright or sunny therell be some bright or sunny spells times. Temperatures spells at times. Temperatures above average. Above average. Looks like things are heating up. Boxt boilers spot of weather up. Boxt boilers spot of weather on gb news as well well. Well. Hello. Good afternoon and welcome to gb news on tv online and on Digital Radio. Im nana akua. And on Digital Radio. Im nana akua. Its 4 00 and for the next akua. Its 4 00 and for the next few hours, me and my panel will be taking on some of the big topics hitting the headlines right now. This show is all about opinion. Its mine , its about opinion. Its mine, its theirs. And of course its yours. Well be debating, discussing and at times we will disagree. But no one will be cancelled. So but no one will be cancelled. So joining me today is broadcast and journalist danny kelly and also actress danielle mason. Oh also actress danielle mason. Oh im presenter sorry, sorry. Actor and presenter. As she said actor and presenter. As she said sorry in a few moments in my monologue, ill be telling you what think about the london what i think about the london theatre shows for theatre thats hosting shows for black only audiences. But before we get started, lets get your latest with. Aaron. Latest news with. Aaron. For good afternoon to you. For good afternoon to you. Its 4 00. its 4 00. Im Aaron Armstrong in the gb newsroom. Tax cuts may be unlikely in this weeks budget, tax cuts may be unlikely in this weeks budget , with the this weeks budget, with the chancellor promising what he has called a prudent plan. Called a prudent spending plan. Reports suggest the governments forced to governments been forced to revise figures, with the revise its figures, with the office for budget responsibility, saying theres around £2 billion less to spend than previously thought. Thats after was was confirmed after britain was was confirmed to have slipped into recession at the end of last year. Speaking to gb news earlier, jeremy hunt said budget will jeremy hunt said his budget will deliver for deliver better value for taxpayers as it is wrong to say that we should be putting more money into the Public Sector , money into the Public Sector, fewer Civil Servants to be more productive. Productive. Thats correct. You want fewer people to do more. I think weve got stop i think weve got to stop always the inputs and always looking at the inputs and always looking at the inputs and always saying way to always saying that the way to get Better Public Services to get Better Public Services is to spend more and actually ask if we could be more efficient. We could be more efficient. Well, jeremy hunt also said today protests in britain against the war in gaza have crossed a line he said hed heard from jewish people who are fearful of leaving their homes dunng fearful of leaving their homes during large scale marches and he called for the british virtue of tolerance to be restored. Of tolerance to be restored. Those who preach hate could be blocked from entering britain. Blocked from entering britain. Reports claim the government is planning to identify and add dangerous extremists to visa warning lists. Dangerous extremists to visa warning lists. They would then warning lists. They would then automatically be refused entry to the uk. Its understood the new plans will extend current powers to include those who preach racism or intimidation, or incite violence. It follows or incite violence. It follows a warning from the Prime Minister on friday that democracy is being threatened by a rise in extremism. Police will be extremism. Police will be required to undergo mandatory training on violence against women under new plans proposed by labour. The party has also vowed to revamp vetting procedures to stop those with a history of Domestic Abuse or Sexual Offences from joining Police Forces this week, a report found Wayne Couzens should never have been given a job as a Police Officer because of his past behaviour. Well, today marks three years since he killed Sarah Everard, who was 33, after tricking her into thinking she was being arrested. Cousins was sentenced to life in prison and will never be released. A seven Year Old Girl released. A seven Year Old Girl has died after a migrant boat carrying 16 people capsized in the english channel. She had been travelling with her pregnant mother, her father and three siblings when the boat got into difficulties in the early hours morning. Yemens hours of this morning. Yemens houthi militant group has issued a fresh threat against britain, warning it will strike and sink more british ships. The rebel group says britain is a rogue state, accusing the government of attacking yemen and collaborating with the United States in crimes against civilians in gaza. When it comes civilians in gaza. When it comes less than 24 hours after a british cargo ship, which was abandoned after a missile strike sankin abandoned after a missile strike sank in the red sea, the us , the sank in the red sea, the us, the uk and the eu all have military ships patrolling the region to protect commercial vessels passing through the important shipping route. Rail passengers shipping route. Rail passengers are facing higher prices from today as fares across england and wales are hiked by 5, and thatis and wales are hiked by 5, and that is despite train cancellations being among the worst in a decade. Labour has accused the government of letting ticket prices rise almost twice as much as wages, with passengers now forced to pay with passengers now forced to pay more for less. It comes after thousands of services were cancelled in the past year , and cancelled in the past year, and one of the rail industrys worst performance since records began. Performance since records began. Lets turn to the United States, where Nikki Haley Says she wont be bound by the republican partys pledge to support donald trump if he wins the nomination. Trump if he wins the nomination. An election rematch is now looking ever more likely, with mr trump winning three more republican contest overnight in missouri, michigan and idaho. He made several false claims at Campaign Rallies , including an Campaign Rallies, including an allegation that President Biden is trying to overthrow in the United States. Thats despite mr trump himself being charged with conspiracy to defraud the us as part of the 91 serious crimes hes accused of in four criminal trials. And last nights brit trials. And last nights brit awards were dominated by the singer songwriter ray. In singer songwriter ray. In a stunning turnaround for the 26 year old after she was dumped by her former record label. Heres the moment she claimed one of the moment she claimed one of the top honours. The top honours. Im so proud of this album. Im so proud of this album. Im in love with music. Im so proud of this album. Im in love with music. All i im in love with music. All i ever wanted to be was an artist and now im an artist. With an album of the year. She took to the stage with her grandmother and ray also took home the album and artist of the year and best new artist. She was named songwriter of the year and won the r b categories public vote well. In total, she scooped up an astonishing six awards. Thats the most wins in a single year. For the latest stories, you can sign up to our alerts by scanning the qr code on your screen , or go to gb news. Com screen, or go to gb news. Com alerts. Thats it for the moment. Now its back to. Nana. Moment. Now its back to. Nana. Good afternoon. Is this coming up to six minutes after 4 00 . Im nana akua. This is a 4 00 . Im nana akua. This is a gb news on tv, online and on Digital Radio. So i like to call this one whats good for the goose. This one whats good for the goose. Rishi sunak has finally goose. Rishi sunak has finally stepped in on this ridiculous nofion stepped in on this ridiculous notion that you can host a play in our capital city, and dare to choose the colour your audience should be. This this is without a shadow of a doubt, racist. And a shadow of a doubt, racist. And i dont know where mayor khan is on this, but hes pretty quick to call things out when he deems this to be case far, this to be the case so far, right . So where is he . Hes oddly silent. Im talking, of course , about the slave play course, about the slave play written by jeremy o. Course, about the slave play written by jeremy 0. Harris, scheduled to be performed at the noel coward theatre in london in a few months time. Now, the a few months time. Now, the theatre, which receives public funding, has earmarked two shows as black only performances or black out nights where white people are advised not to attend. So the black identifying audience would be free from the white gaze. And thats not from white gaze. And thats not from white gaze. And thats not from white people who are gay, by the way, although they wouldnt be allowed or welcome. But from the gazing eyes of all white people who typical. So what are your thoughts on it . Vaiews gbnews. Uk com or tweet me gbnews. Get in touch. Thats just coming up to seven minutes after 4 00. Im nana akua. What after 4 00. Im nana akua. What do you think . So let me carry on do you think . So let me carry on with my monologue. If somebody could just. Ah, there we go. Jeremy claims that he was doing this to enable the purposeful creation of an environment in which an all black identifying experience and discuss an event in the performing arts , film, in the performing arts, film, athletic and cultural spaces. Athletic and cultural spaces. Come on, jeremy, thats rubbish. Come on, jeremy, thats rubbish. How much more offensive can you get . And how weak do you how much more offensive can you get . And how weak do you think black people are that we cant handle white people looking . Get real. Sounds to me like an real. This sounds to me like an opportunity for unabashed racism. The statement read. We want to increase accessibility to theatre for everyone. Uh, as to theatre for everyone. Uh, as long as youre not white. Paul scully, if youre watching, this is a no go zone right here on the bbc. Jeremy claimed as someone who wants and yearns for black and brown people to be in the theatre, who comes from a working class environment and so wants people who do not make over six figures a year to feel like theatre is a place for them. It is a necessity to radically invite them. All the hell is he invite them. All the hell is he talking about . And what a huge presumption to make that black people dont earn over six figures. Who does make figures. But then who does make over six figures . Thats millions. What a patronising millions. What a patronising little toerag. Rishi sunaks little toerag. Rishi sunaks office stepped in, calling the black only audience wrong and divisive, and stated the Prime Minister is a big supporter of the arts and he believes that the arts and he believes that the arts and he believes that the arts should be inclusive and open everyone , particularly open to everyone, particularly where venues are in where those arts venues are in receipt of public funding. Exactly the shows producers responded, saying that they wanted it to be absolutely clear that no one will be prevented or precluded from attending any performance. Great. But why performance. Great. But why would somebody who is white want to come after being told in no Uncertain Terms that theyre not welcome . Its ridiculous. Weve welcome . Its ridiculous. Weve been here before though, with the tambo and bones performance at the theatre in stratford, east that awful time east london, that awful time white gaze emerged and ben leo went to talk to the audience. Went to talk to the audience. Then whats wrong with white people . People . Whats wrong with him . Um, whats wrong with him . Um, theres not its not that theres not its not that theres anything wrong with white people. I think its in the same way that like an lgbtq space is for lgbtq people. His famous quote, of course, where he says, i had a dream that my children would be judged on the content of their character and not colour of character and not the colour of their skin. What he saying that what he was saying was that all judged all people should be judged evenly , but are judged evenly, but we are not judged evenly, but we are not judged evenly in the traditional theatre spaces. Theatre spaces. How are black people treated unfairly in theatre . Can you give some examples . Can you give some examples . Im not here to go into that now this is a very now because this is a very casual interview outside of another i have many, another event, and i have many, many experience of being treated as other within the spaces i am working by people who are in the audience. Im not talking about theatre and audience members by audience members. So what would they just so what would they do . Just that im not. No, no no no, this is not honounng no, no no no, this is not honouring my experience really. Honouring my experience really. I mean, come on, in this day and , how can the organisers and age, how can the organisers not damage that this not see the damage that this causes . Is clearly causes . This is a clearly racist marketing ploy to get as much attention for the production, irrespective of the damage it causes. Because this would not be allowed to the other way round. If we carry on enabling round. If we carry on enabling this , well end up an this, well end up in an apartheid state, because whats good for the goose is good for the gander. Good for the goose is good for the gander. Of course, apologies for that. I dont know why they for that. I dont know why they put jeremy hunt on that slide. It was jeremy o. Put jeremy hunt on that slide. It was jeremy 0. Harris, but we will edit that out right before we get stuck into the debate. Heres what else is coming up today with the Great British debate. Hour. Im asking, debate. This hour. Im asking, have lost faith in the have you lost faith in the Government Spending taxpayers . Government spending taxpayers . In fact, our money the chancellor , under growing chancellor, under growing pressure from the party, is looking to reduce the tax burden, but he insists that hell only cut taxes in a responsible and sustainable way. So with all eyes on jeremy hunt, but not not obviously, the jeremy that was in the thing ahead of this weeks budget. I want to know whether you trust him with the taxpayers money. Stay tuned at 450 as world view will cross live to los angeles to paul duddridge, host to speak to paul duddridge, host of the politics people podcast, to latest on the us to get the latest on the us election on the menu. As President Trump moves closer to securing the republican nomination after a string of victories over his rival nikki haley, what do you think is he the right person for the gig . The right person for the gig . Then at five, its this weeks outside guide, and today im joined by a man whos gone from rags to riches and back again. He made it onto the times rich list an estimated wealth of list with an estimated wealth of 1. 9 billion. But recently declared bankruptcy. Can you declared bankruptcy. Can you guess who he is . Stay tuned. Guess who he is . Stay tuned. More clues on the way thats coming up in the next hour. Tell me what you think on everything were views me what you think on everything we gb views me what you think on everything we gb news. Views me what you think on everything we gb news. Com views me what you think on everything wegb news. Com or views me what you think on everything we gb news. Com or tweet views me what you think on everything wegb news. Com or tweet me� ws me what you think on everything wegb news. Com or tweet me at. At gb news. Com or tweet me at. Gb news. All right. Lets get gb news. All right. Lets get started. Lets welcome again to my panel, broadcaster and journalist danny kelly. And also presenter and social commentator danielle mason. Shes not an danielle mason. Shes not an actress. Were all actresses, actress. Were all actresses, darling , this is acting right. Darling, this is acting right. So im going to start with you, danny kelly, an all black performance. Performance. Well, let me just gaze at as a white man, let me gaze at a black woman. Daniel, youre doing it as well. How do you. How do you. How do you. You must feel threatened by our skin colour. Its you must feel threatened by our skin colour. Its lucky our skin colour. Its lucky i its mental. I just think its garbage. And ive got to say , garbage. And ive got to say, im not a fan of london. Im. I dont know how you two feel about this city. Like about this city. I dont like it. This garbage can it. It could. This garbage can only happen in london. Yeah it couldnt happen anywhere else. It happen in it couldnt happen in warwickshire. Wont warwickshire. It could. It wont even the west even happen in the west midlands. Birmingham, midlands. In birmingham, which is place. Is just as diverse as place. Its only london. Whats wrong with you all down here . Well, its on. I wouldnt allow it. Its khan. Its sadiq khan. Do you think its sadiq khan . Hes a complete khan . But hes. Hes a complete anti racist everything , anti racist about everything, isnt he . He doesnt. You know, if you say anything, its islamophobic. This hes , islamophobic. Its this or hes, you know, hes an advocate. In fact, one of his, um, fact, even in one of his, um, uh, hes like a promotional material were a load of material there were a load of white people on it, and it said, this represent london. This doesnt represent london. Yeah, roll back yeah, yeah, he had to roll back on yeah , you know, i on it. So, yeah, you know, i think he does stick things think he does stick to things like surface, but like on the surface, but underneath ive seen him the way he , uh demoralises people when he, uh demoralises people when hes having conversations , he hes having conversations, he just seems very much on that side of things rather than on the general. Well, its true , the general. Well, its true, but sadiq khan, you know, to be fair , isnt here to defend fair, isnt here to defend himself. And you know, he he has you hes hes protecting you know, hes hes protecting what as london. But what he sees as london. But yeah, i just dont get how that can be allowed anywhere. Forget london, anywhere in this country. Um, what the hell is going on . To be honest, personally , it to be honest, personally, it wouldnt actually bother me. It wouldnt actually bother me. It like, whatever floats your boat like, whatever floats your boat like that wouldnt bother me. Like that wouldnt bother me. But i do know that by them doing that, its going to cause more conflict between different colours of people. Like we all come from the same place, we all end up in the same place. Why is everything got to be diverse with colour . Do you know its taken Race Relations goes back a generation as well. Look, london and birmingham are incredibly diverse cities. You need to look at representation in the media as well. Everythings diverse, lots of box ticking in my humble opinion. Present company accepted because youre here because of your magnificent talent , miss akua. Because of your magnificent talent, miss akua. But you are. Youre here on merit. Lots of lots of tv, lots of people, lots of people in the media arent. So theres lots of box ticking and you can see it with your own eyes, and you can hear it on the radio Diverse Voices radio with very Diverse Voices and all of a and everything. And now all of a sudden, reached the stage sudden, weve reached the stage where in front of where diversity is in front of us. For most people with us. And for most people with common diversity common sense, diversity is accepted. Yes, there are accepted. Yes, there are problems with it, diverse problems with it, but diverse diversity, generally speaking, is. And now all of is tolerate. And now all of a sudden youve got a theatre that will let you in. If youre white like me, but really youre not welcome. Oh well let you in. But but its black only. But you can come if youre going can come in as if youre going to youre not going to go is it . Because. Because. So dannys like you at the front. Can you imagine they can you imagine what they would evils that would six dannys the evils that i it because theyre just i get is it because theyre just identify as black though . I got the evil. I got the evil. Imagine the evils, you know, some foot four big bald man. Some six foot four big bald man. Looks like a doorman. Looks like a pub doorman. The bloke i have to itd be the bloke i have to watch for. Watch out for. Gays. Yes. The black gays. Yes. The black gays. Yes. Were right to and. And you were right to point out, because i nearly spat my when you said white my tea out when you said white gays. White gays. I thought you meant white homosexuals. Were talking about. About when about. Were talking about when you gaze somebody rather than you gaze at somebody rather than being gay and white, how good clarification, though, so that the audience isnt kicking off because sensitive subject. Play, isnt it . Well, the play, isnt it . Well, its whole its not the whole play. Nights out so its only two nights out of run of think 13 of a run of i think about 13 weeks. Yeah two of those nights theyre going to have only theyre going to have black only performances are not performances where you are not not to be in there. But not allowed to be in there. But youre certainly not welcome if thats the way theyre theyre saying it. Think that were i just think that were supposed to be moving on from times like that, and not times like that, and its not going make people like it. Going to make people like it. Its to cause more its just going to cause more conflict and you all conflict. And then you get all the religions again , the religions involved again, and just not its just not and its just not its just not good for anyone. Its just negative. Interestingly , i dont know, interestingly, i dont know, dan, whether you saw the interview with ben, leo and ben, leo was pressing this who leo was pressing this woman who didnt black to me. She didnt look black to me. She looked. Maybe that was on the monologue. She monologue. Yes. Yeah she she didnt looked didnt look black. She looked sort of. Id say maybe mixed race, she goes, race, maybe. And she goes, well, look , ive, been the look, ive, ive been on the stage before and she implied i cant verbatim , but cant remember verbatim, but basically sort of basically white people sort of stare at her differently than black people. And when ben leo said, give us knee, said said, give us a knee, she said something that. Something like that. Im here no example. No, im not here to talk about. To talk about. No, no, no. I think if you go back, the fact back, she alluded to the fact that when shes stage, that when shes on stage, white people look at her in a certain way. And ben leo said, give me an example and then she an example of it. And then she said, im not here to give you an thats what just an example. Thats what i just said. Yes. Thats correct. So basically, sorry , i would say basically, i sorry, i would say shes. Whoever that woman shes lying. Whoever that woman is, if someones going say is, if someones going to Say Something inflammatory, something so inflammatory, you want , well, want to be able to say, well, actually, the evidence. Actually, heres the evidence. Believes. Thats what she believes. Thats thinks. I doubt thats what she thinks. I doubt shes shes actually shes lying. Shes actually standing amazed that standing by. Im amazed that those would come out those words would come out of her would her mouth and she would feel that should saying that shed she should be saying that shed she should be saying that her. That the problems with her. Think about it. Think about it. I think its ridiculous. I think its absolutely absurd. First from my first of all, i look out from my eyes i dont see my own eyes so i dont see my own colour, and i dont sit around going, oh, im black, im black. Ive clue. Think i look ive got a clue. I think i look like else. Im like ive got a clue. I think i look like little else. Im like ive got a clue. I think i look like little ducklinga. Im like ive got a clue. I think i look like little duckling thats like the little duckling thats coming know, coming up. Youre all, you know, every are people. If every people are people. If youre judgements youre going to make judgements based what somebody looks based on what somebody looks like of colour like in terms of the colour of their youre going to their skin, then youre going to make judgements, make wrong judgements, because the for be me, the presumption would for be me, you certain you know, theres certain presumptions should presumptions that i should be thinking saying, i get thinking and saying, i get it all the time online, where people say, well, coming a people say, well, coming from a black woman, theres one voice that a black woman always that a black woman will always say, youve to conform. Im say, youve got to conform. Im like, listen, just because i dont your stereotype of dont fit your stereotype of what woman should be what a black woman should be saying, well, thats unfortunate. Your saying, well, thats unfo racism. Your saying, well, thats unfo racism. Your saying, well, thats unfo racism. Um, your saying, well, thats unfo racism. Um, yeah, your saying, well, thats unfo racism. Um, yeah, i your saying, well, thats unfo racism. Um, yeah, i just our saying, well, thats unfo racism. Um, yeah, i just do own racism. Um, yeah, i just do what i dont even know what i do. I dont even know what i do. I dont even know what am, so. Thats what colour i am, so. And thats a great way to be. I think thats really good way to thats a really good way to be. Nana. Thats a really good way to be. You nana. Thats a really good way to be. You can nana. Thats a really good way to be. You can answer this because of white privilege. It of my white privilege. It doesnt me to. And im doesnt allow me to. And im being im being facetious. Doesnt allow me to. And im being im being facetious. Of being im being facetious. Of course. The mickey course. Im taking the mickey with. Um, but as as with sarcasm. Um, but as a as a black woman, what would you say to those black people if they were in front of you about this white gaze . Well, tell them have well, id tell them to have a listen monologue. Ive listen to my monologue. Ive just them a just told them its a ridiculous, absurd proposition. And you its racist. And how you can. Its racist. Frankly say that frankly that you could say that white looking you in white people are looking you in a certain way judging in white people are looking you in a certain way. Judging in white people are looking you in a certain way. Judgiiyour in a certain way. Thats in your own thats own mind. Yeah, thats a projection believe projection of what you believe that is thinking projection of what you believe that theyre is thinking projection of what you believe that theyre looking; thinking projection of what you believe that theyre looking at1inking when theyre looking at you, which your own racism. And which is your own racism. And i think it is for this to think it is time for this to stop. I am surprised stop. And i am surprised that this a new thing, this is this is a new thing, because couple of months ago because a couple of months ago last tambo and last year, we had tambo and bones, performance where bones, another performance where they blackout or black they had a blackout or black only again, many only audience. And again, many black it was black people felt it was ridiculous. Black people felt it was ridiculous. It black people felt it was ridiculous. It creates ridiculous. It creates racism. It. It does. It really does. And its not good for the Younger Generation to looking at things like to be looking at things like this as well. This as victimhood as well. All coming across as theyre all coming across as victims. Theyre all coming across as victwell, think , well, i well, they think, well, i think theyre doing think the way theyre doing it is, victims. Sensitive subject, its a sensitive subject, though, isnt it . What the plays theyre plays covering. Theyre a victim awful phrase, victim of this awful phrase, white privilege, which i dont agree with. Victims. Theyre victims. Theyre victims. Is, they well, the thing is, they dont there. Dont want white people there. The thing is, though, ultimately, on ultimately, slavery is going on anyway. It is between africans are biggest slave traders at are the biggest slave traders at the moment. Thats over 700,000 the moment. Thats over 700,000 slaves across africa. And you know, the slave trade was africans selling their people to white people. And so on and so forth. And the only reason they werent selling each other, and the white people the reason why the white people bought people was bought the black people was because they thought, well, well people well buy some other people because anyway. Because theyre doing it anyway. I is going on i just think slavery is going on even , if people even now, and if people really want can want to address it, they can address going now, address whats going on now, right something right now, rather than something that context. That is a historical context. Its really. Its a waste of time, really. And frankly , excluding people and frankly, excluding people based colour of their based on the colour of their skin is racism. And we all know that. What do you think gb views said or tweet me at said gbnews. Com or tweet me at gb news. Nana a quick coming gb news. Im nana a quick coming up. Well cross live gb news. Im nana a quick coming uplos. Well cross live gb news. Im nana a quick coming uplos angeles well cross live gb news. Im nana a quick coming uplos angeles tozll cross live gb news. Im nana a quick coming uplos angeles to speakss live gb news. Im nana a quick coming uplos angeles to speak to live gb news. Im nana a quick coming uplos angeles to speak to the to los angeles to speak to the host of the politics people podcast, its time for podcast, but next its time for the british debate the Great British debate this houn the Great British debate this hour. Asking, you hour. And im asking, have you lost government lost faith in the Government Spending our taxpayers money . Ive a out right now, ive got a poll out right now, onyx, you that very onyx, asking you that very question. Send me your thoughts. Email gb gb news. Com email gb views at gb news. Com or tweet me at. Gb news. Good afternoon. Its just coming up to 24 minutes after 4 00. This is gb news. We are the peoples channel. Im nana akua. Its time now for the Great British debate this hour before i get stuck into that, i did have some emails that im going to william with to read briefly. William with regard to the monologue, if there an all white there was to be an all white theatre showing, all hell would break loose. Absolutely right william. Theatre william. Least on the theatre nana gone mad. Its nana theyve all gone mad. Its racism and goes back to no blacks, no irish. Yeah, can blacks, no irish. Yeah, we can do engage in do better than engage in regressive stunts like this. Absolutely darren. On the theatre, longer i live, the theatre, the longer i live, the more convinced am this more convinced i am that this planet other planet is being used by other planets as a lunatic asylum. Hahaha and finally, nigel says, i think its a brilliant idea. So good, in fact, that it should be extended to every night. Really its time now for the Great British debate this hour. And im asking, what do you mean . You cant be saying that . Thats nonsense. Nigel you dont mean mean mean that, do you . You mean like. Well take like. No, no, no, well take that thats not that back. Thats thats not right. Dont want that. Right. We dont want to do that. But for that, nigel. But thank you for that, nigel. But thank you for that, nigel. But thats not how want but no, thats not how we want it for great it. Its time for the Great British debate and british debate this hour. And im you lost faith im asking, have you lost faith in spending in the Government Spending taxpayers chancellor taxpayers money . The chancellor is to cut taxes is under pressure to cut taxes in budget. This wednesday. In the budget. This wednesday. Speaking on gb news this morning, hunt warned morning, jeremy hunt warned that he wouldnt be including gimmicks insisted that gimmicks and insisted that instead would focus on a long time plan for growth. But with the economy in recession and the tax burden record levels, tax burden at record levels, many the many are questioning the chancellors decision. So for the british debate, this the Great British debate, this houn the Great British debate, this hour, have you lost hour, im asking, have you lost faith governments faith in the governments spending money . Spending of taxpayers money . Joining me now to discuss political commentator peter spencen political commentator Peter Spencer, adviser to the spencer, former adviser to the bank of england doctor roger gewolb jim gewolb social commentator jim dale and businessman adam brooks. Im going to start with you, roger gewolb. , long ago, long ago , i um, long ago, long ago, i lost confidence in how they were collecting tax. The rationale behind it, and certainly how theyre spending the money. Uh probably the biggest waste of money recently was the whole Lindsay Hoyle debate and fracas in in parliament to decide on a statement, basically a Mission Statement, basically a Mission Statement that nobody in the war overseas was going to pay any attention to in the first place. We have so many problems in this country that those politicians could have addressed. Its very disappointing. Disappointing. Um, very disappointing indeed. Okay. Uh, Peter Spencer well, the question of whether voters have lost faith in the British Government to deliver to repay them for their taxes, i think is an absolute no brainer. I mean , i dont think most i mean, i dont think most people follow the minutia of the office for budget responsibility. The institute for fiscal management and so on and so forth saying, look , and so forth saying, look, saying to jeremy terry and to jeremy hunt, look, im sorry, my old chinese. Some simply dont old chinese. Some simply dont add up, but what people i think are very well aware of is the fact theyre shelling out shedloads and theyre shedloads in taxes and theyre getting perpetual getting in return perpetual queues for hospital treatment, saying their kids, uh, to schools where the roofs are caving in and driving around in cars and roads that are riddled with potholes. And therefore i, with potholes. And therefore i, i cant help think rupa huq vote from Jim Callaghan. All those years ago when he could see that hes actually and somehow , hes actually and somehow, peter, were just struggling with your audio. I cant quite make out whats going on there. Were struggling with your audio, peter, so well try and fix that. Im going to come adam brooks. Come to, um, uh, adam brooks. Right. Well look thats all right. Well look again, we spoke about tax earlier. Im paying more tax than anyone really has in decades or we as the taxpayer are paying more tax than we have in decades. And our money is being sent to ukraine without asking us. Our money is being spent, billions is being spent on net zero, not zero. Without asking us, um, our roads and our infrastructure is collapsing. If i want to get collapsing. If i want to get a doctors appointment, its a struggle. So what are we getting for our money . Things have got to change. This country is broken at the moment. We certainly are living in broken. Certainly are living in broken. Britain seems to be. They seem to have a lot of money, but they dont seem to be spending it well at all. Jim dale. Yeah, theres a theres a threat here that we might all agree, which will be agree, um, which which will be something look, the something one day. Look, the polls the people polls are out there. The people are speaking, uh, polls are out there. The people are speaking , uh, they put the are speaking, uh, they put the tories around 20. Tories right down around 20. Theyre flush. Uh, the theyre a busted flush. Uh, the brand is trashed. Um, everything brand is trashed. Um, everything they touch , its almost like the they touch, its almost like the midas touch in reverse. It turns midas touch in reverse. It turns to something else. Um, and you to something else. Um, and you can go across most of the subjects that are out there , and subjects that are out there, and its. And its the same. And thatis its. And its the same. And that is what people are actually seeing and feeling. And by the way , um, the net zero thing, um, way, um, the net zero thing, um, put it to the people any day of the week, it wont be a problem because most people do understand the reasons and why and wait for summer and and wait for the summer and youll see it. But our taxes are but again, our taxes are going, you know, many, many millions a day are on. Millions a day are going on. Illegal immigrants to be up Illegal Immigrants to be put up in hotels , fed, get free health in hotels, fed, get Free Health Care when hard working people of this country are not getting anything back either. So something has broken and its not. Its not going to be that labour are going to be the saving grace here. I think illegal immigration is going to be worse under labour. The net zero policy going to be zero policy is going to be turbocharged under keir starmer. Were in a mess and i cant see us getting out of it at all. Gewolb well, i think roger gewolb well, i think the net zero and the ukraine are issues. Issues. Uh, whereas mr dale said theres arguments on both sides. Theres arguments on both sides. Um, i think the immigration in the fancy four star hotels is something that hasnt been dealt with properly , but basically with properly, but basically its that the government and rishi in particular, you know, made five promises, none of which they, theyve met. Theyre theyre becoming an endangered species. I theyre becoming an endangered species. I think theyre becoming an endangered species. I think that galloways species. I think that galloways victor three uh, i mean , our victor three uh, i mean, our politicians, rishi and starmer , politicians, rishi and starmer, theyre weak and theyre wet. Theyre weak and theyre wet. Uh, galloway is strong. Thats uh, galloway is strong. Thats why he won. I think his victory actually enjoy yours to the benefit of rishi. And im afraid jeremy hunt as well in that having split labour, i think voters are going to have to go to the tories despite the dissatisfaction with the government. Do you think Peter Spencer , to try to conclude and spencer, to try to conclude and what i was going to be saying, its the rueful, um, quote from Jim Callaghan when he could see Margaret Thatcher looming over the horizon and he said, there are times in politics when there is a sea change at which point the public has made up its mind what it wants and what it approves of. Approves of. And at that point it makes no difference what you say or what you do. You do. Youre saying interesting. All right. Well coming to you then, Peter Spencer. So have we lost faith . Have you lost faith in the Government Spending your money, yes or no . Youre asking me . Yeah final yes or no . Oh youre completely. Yeah. Jim dale, yes or no . Absolutely yes. Absolutely yes. Absolutely yes. Adam brooks. Adam brooks. Yes. Yes. And also roger gewolb. And also roger gewolb. And also roger gewolb. Absolutely. Crikey. Absolutely. Oh, crikey. Absolutely. Oh, crikey. Yes, a clean sweep. Anybody at who thinks otherwise, at home who thinks otherwise, please get in touch because well with okay. Well struggle with this. Okay. Thank political thank you so much. Political commentator peter spence, former adviser england, adviser to the bank of england, doctor gewolb at, uh, and doctor roger gewolb at, uh, and also adam brooks and also jim dale. Thank you for your thoughts. Right. This gb news thoughts. Right. This is gb news on , online and on digital on tv, online and on Digital Radio. Up , on tv, online and on Digital Radio. Up, well continue radio. Coming up, well continue with Great British debate radio. Coming up, well continue with hour. 5reat british debate radio. Coming up, well continue withhour. Imt british debate radio. Coming up, well continue withhour. Im asking, debate radio. Coming up, well continue withhour. Im asking, haveite radio. Coming up, well continue withhour. Im asking, have you this hour. Im asking, have you lost faith government lost faith in the Government Spending taxpayers money . Youll hear panel, hear the thoughts of my panel, danny mason. Danny kelly and daniel mason. Still come. My outside still to come. My outside guest. Hes man whos gone from rags hes a man whos gone from rags to riches. Hes made it onto the times list with a wealth of times rich list with a wealth of £1. 9 billion. But recently declared bankruptcy. Youll find declared bankruptcy. Youll find out soon. But first, lets get your latest news with Aaron Armstrong. Thank you very much. Armstrong. Thank you very much. Its Aaron Armstrong here in the gb newsroom at 431. Tax cuts may be unlikely in this weeks budget, the chancellor has promised a prudent spending plan. A report suggests the governments been forced to revise its figures with the office for budget responsibility, saying theres around £2 billion less than previously thought. And thats after britain was confirmed to have slipped into recession at the end of last year. Speaking to gb news earlier, jeremy hunt said his budget will deliver better value for taxpayers. Better value for taxpayers. Well, hunt also, jeremy hunt also said that protests in britain against the war in gaza have crossed a line. He said hed heard from jewish people who are fearful of leaving their homes during large scale marches , called the british , and called for the british virtue of tolerance to be restored. Those who preach hate restored. Those who preach hate could be blocked from entering britain , reports claim. The britain, reports claim. The government is planning to identify , and dangerous identify, fly and add dangerous extremists to visa warning lists. They would then automatically be refused entry to the uk. Its understood the new plans will extend current powers to include those who preach racism , those who preach racism, intimidation or incite violence. Intimidation or incite violence. It follows a warning from the Prime Minister on friday that democracy is being threatened by a in extremism. Rail a rise in extremism. Rail passengers are facing higher pnces passengers are facing higher prices from today as fares across england and wales are hiked by 5. Thats despite train cancellations being among the worst in a decade. Labour has accused the government of letting ticket prices rise almost twice as much as wages, with passengers now forced to pay with passengers now forced to pay for less. And for the pay more for less. And for the latest stories, you can sign up to gb news alerts using the qr code on your screen or on gb news. Comment its now back over to. Nana to. Nana good afternoon, 33 minutes after 4 00, this is gb news coming up. Worldview will cross live to los angeles and get the latest on whats going on stateside with donald trump. Is he closer to the white house . But next, its time for the Great British debate. This hour im asking, have you lost faith in spending in the Government Spending taxpayers , which is our money . Taxpayers, which is our money . Ive right now ive got to pull up right now on x that very question. X asking you that very question. Get touch. Gb views. Gb get in touch. Email gb views. Gb news. Com or tweet me gbnews. Welcome back. 37 minutes after 4 00. This is gb news. We are the peoples channel. Im nana akua and its time for the Great British debate this hour. And im asking have you lost faith in the Government Spending taxpayers its all eyes taxpayers money . Its all eyes on jeremy hunt ahead of this weeks budget. But the weeks budget. But with the economy recession and the economy and recession and the tax burden at record levels , tax burden at record levels, many are questioning the many people are questioning the chancellors decisions. So for the Great British debate this houn the Great British debate this hour, im asking, you lost hour, im asking, have you lost faith governments faith in the governments spending . Taxpayers which is our money . See what my money . Well, lets see what my panel that joined by, panel maker that im joined by, broadcaster journalist danny broadcaster and journalist danny kelly and also presenter and commentator danielle mason. Right. Danny kelly, ill come to you. Oh wow. Did you want to go first . Yeah. All right. Go on then. Danielle right. So firstly i just wanted to say that, um , wanted to say that, um, obviously the money goes on welfare, health and education. So for me, the welfare for 6 million of it a day is going on asylum seekers. Secondly the health look at the state of the nhs. And thirdly, education. And nhs. And thirdly, education. And im going to touch on something with education. Now i cannot get my im british, my children are british. I cannot get my two children a school place at the moment because theres not enough funding in sen, which is sen for autism and adhd. Theres just no money in education. Ive had so many meetings with teachers that that cannot cope with the children , and kids with the children, and kids cannot get a place in school and this is all to down where the hell is everybodys money going to . Hmm. Um obviously a big chunk of its welfare , which chunk of its welfare, which again, for i feel that a lot again, for me, i feel that a lot of that is covering the elephant in the room. The asylum seekers. In the room. The asylum seekers. Oh, sorry , danny , i did warn oh, sorry, danny, i did warn you about this because im the size of an elephant. Oh, im so sorry. It went over her head. Shes big. Shes so innocent. It went over her so innocent. It went over her head, and im not that big. I dont know how to feel about that, to tease you, danny, but we love that. I love the teasing. Its a two way thing with miss akua and me. Him. All right, yeah, we love him. All right, go would go on. Danny. Anyway which would me enough of dan. Me now weve had enough of dan. Hear what youve we want to hear what youve got potholes. Potholes. Potholes. Oh, potholes. Potholes. No. Potholes. Potholes. No. Because dan was yes. No. Because dan was moaning about potholes over a cup listen, im cup of tea. Okay, listen, im a used im and used car dealer. Im sick and tired paying so let tired of paying 20 vat, so let me tell you how it works. How much do you reckon used car dealers earn a carjust out of dealers earn a car just out of interest from car . Interest from a car . Percentage what percentage wise . What percentage wise . No, its not yeah. No, no, no, its not a percentage. Like a profit percentage. Its like a profit margin. I well, do want us margin. I well, do you want us to thousands you to say in thousands or do you want us to. Its thousands. Okay. So say for example , lets just keep it for example, lets just keep it simple £1,000. Yeah. Okay. Okay 20 of that £1,000 profit. If i buy a car for five grand, sell it for six grand, 20 goes immediately in vat , 20. Then immediately in vat, 20. Then whats left . Which is about 800 odd nick hewer. Then that is subjected to even more tax. I subjected to even more tax. I have to be vat registered because of my business size and 20 automatically goes. Now the only source of benefit of being vat registered is that if i say, for example, i need some fuel for example, i need some fuel for business use, that i can get a little bit of the vat back on that minuscule that were talking minuscule amounts. Amount money amounts. So the amount of money i is just i pay i think is just scandalous. Well, maybe do you want to get a new career . Want to get a new career . Maybe. Maybe. Well, its quite lucrative. Well, its quite lucrative. It is a joke, isnt it . Because the thing is, the question is where is our money going . Like if you look at the nhs, take for example nhs, lets take that for example. Billions in. The nhs loses billions in terms of procurement. They are monolith of an organisation and if you are that big, you can benefit from things. Something called economies of scale, which means that if you buy something in quantities , you can get in large quantities, you can get such a cheaper rate that you should making you should be should be making you should be making savings, but instead theyre procuring things like for example, paracetamol and stuff at ridiculous prices, even more than youd pay on the high street. You theyre street. So we, you know, theyre getting a bit better, but then theyve heavy theyve also got top heavy Management Structure as well theyve also got top heavy man. Allment structure as well theyve also got top heavy man. All thet structure as well theyve also got top heavy man. All the bureaucrats. ; well theyve also got top heavy man. All the bureaucrats. Itsll with all the bureaucrats. Its like if pay more tax, like even if we pay more tax, they wont spend it properly. No they wont because as i feel like the countrys in such a state that theyre paying a lot of backlog at the moment. So whatever you put in, its going to go. So, you know, i think to go. So, you know, i think a lot of its covering backlog. Do you know dan what you said about Illegal Immigrants or about the Illegal Immigrants or did i put words in your mouth . I did mention them because six, 6 million day. 6 million six, 6 million a day. 6 million a more that a day. Yeah its more than that actually. Supposed actually. Is it . Its supposed to be million. To be 8 million. But i theyve but then i think theyve redone its near 15 redone the sums and its near 15 million. From million. Thats just from something read. Something that i read. I might be slightly wrong on that, but its that. But i can its more than that. But i can check dough check thats a lot of dough and also people over not also people who come over not only looked after, only are they looked after, theyve their theyve got a roof over their heads, but may problems. Have children they may have children who need they may need to go to school. They may have dependents who need welfare , may have lots of , or they may have lots of things. Things. W p w but maybe that is why its hard at the moment to get your children school, because children in school, because theres overflow theres just an overflow of children in, um, same with children in, um, the same with the nhs. Theres an overflow of people. People. Yeah, well, the only thing that say and if were that i would say and if were talking about a lot of people come the boats, theres come via the boats, theres not many there. Those many children on there. Those boats young boats usually its mostly young men , young fighting age men are men, young fighting age men are they fighting age . I never understood that. I never understood that. Fighting age is kind of that. Youre young and athletic and strong. Always strong. Oh well, i always thought, know , we thought, listen, you know, we share similar with, with share similar views with, with the people on the dinghies, but i that people i always thought that people through in the fighting at adjective as a description because almost because it almost it was almost like, you know, theyre here to maybe join isis and blow us up or it means. Or what it means. I thought people said. El it means gn that theyre what it means is that theyre fit so being of fit and strong. So being of fighting youre fit fit and strong. So being of figh strong. Youre fit fit and strong. So being of fighstrong. So youre fit fit and strong. So being of fighstrong. So you youre fit fit and strong. So being of fighstrong. So you could; fit fit and strong. So being of fighstrong. So you could maybe and strong. So you could maybe be seen as a fighting age man. So i always it was just so i always thought it was just to people that to scare people that maybe theyre to you theyre coming over to stab you or something. Not really. No, no, its not really. No, no, its not really. Not well, thats thats not well, thats not my my understanding. Understanding understanding. Of understanding understanding. Of age understanding understanding. Of age thatderstanding understanding. Of age that somebody] kind of age that somebody can fight in war . Fight and be in the war . Yeah. Yeah. Just say young men, lets just say young men, theyre not. Weve just gone off topic. Thats, about thats, uh. Its nothing about you lets you and your views. Lets welcome you and your views. Lets welcomtheir opportunity you and your views. Lets welcomtheiropportunity be voices. Their opportunity to be on the show and tell us what they about the topics they think about the topics were to. Were discussing. Lets go to. Where should go where should we go . Should we go to should go to. Wheres to the. Should we go to. Wheres my kidderminster. Oh , theres no map. Oh, theres no map. Oh, theres no map. They said there was a map. They said there was a map. They told me there was a map. Lets to kidderminster. Its lets go to kidderminster. Its a acting you. Didnt a bit of acting for you. Didnt go to john reid in go well lets go to john reid in kidderminster. Map. John kidderminster. No map. John john, what do you think . Do you trust the government to spend our money . I want to answer the first part of the question first. Have you lost faith in the government . Yes, yes yes, yes. Have lost faith in the have you lost faith in the Government Spending taxpayers money . Yes, i have everything they do is ridiculous and i dont understand. In my dont understand. In my lifetime. Nana im 75 is my lifetime. Nana im 75 is my lifetime. Ive seen many. It was lifetime. Ive seen many. It was getting to the stage where they is right. I getting to the stage where they is right. I think a bit of convincing that theyre not right. But at the time they do make mistakes. I think they are certainly spending money in a ridiculous way. And there are many, many examples of it. You know, my main interest in life is prisons. And if you look at what theyre spending on new prisons when theyre forever increasing the number of people we hold for ridiculous reasons , we hold for ridiculous reasons, it just goes on and on. So thats an example i know of. But the straight answer to your straight question is , yes, straight question is, yes, i have lost faith. Ridiculous have lost faith. Ridiculous government. Weve got at the moment. And the sooner it goes to the polls , the better you to the polls, the better you genuinely think that the other ones will be much better. Ones will be much better. Well , ones will be much better. Well, could ones will be much better. Well , could they be any well, could they be any worse . I dont think so , but at i dont think so, but at least its a question , isnt it . Wow. Thats. Thats what we hope. Thats what we hope. Listen thank you so much john reid in kidderminster. For kidderminster. Thank you for your appreciated. Your thoughts. Much appreciated. That john reid. Hes a great that is john reid. Hes a Great British is a gb british voice. This is a gb news. Am akua were live news. I am nana akua were live on tv, online and on Digital Radio. Coming up in the next houn radio. Coming up in the next hour, the Great British debate im going be asking we im going to be asking should we put style warnings on put tobacco style warnings on ultra food . But next, ultra processed food . But next, its worldview. As we get the latest on whats going on in the us, donald trump celebrates getting to getting a step closer to the white good afternoon. This is coming up to 12 minutes to 4 00. This is gb news on tv, onune to 4 00. This is gb news on tv, online and on Digital Radio. Its of course, time for world view. President donald trump is getting close to being named as the republican nominee for this election. So last night he beat his rival, the former governor of south carolina, nikki haley, in the michigan, missouri and idaho caucuses. So joining me, my panel , idaho caucuses. So joining me, my panel, sorry, somebody shouting in my ear, you said it three times. Now sorry. My panel three times. Now sorry. My panel, danny kelly and also the fabulous danielle mason. Right. Fabulous danielle mason. Right. So what do you think . What do you think about donald trump . Yeah, i the donald trump . Yeah, i like the guy trump. Guy i like donald trump. Like him. Why are they so i like him. Why are they so intent on trying to destroy or destroy any chance he to get destroy any chance he has to get in. What do you think . I mean, because clear what because its clear thats what theyre mean, theyre doing. I mean, what do you well, i like donald trump um, well, i like donald trump because hes against just massively against paedophiles. Massively against paedophiles. Um, things like that. Against them. Oh yeah. No, but i mean, i mean, i dont know, can you go first . I think you moaned when i went first last time. Now you go first. Now you go first. You perhaps you should. You perhaps you should. I like donald, i like i like i think to be fair to beau biden is probably anti pedo as well everybody i think you said everybody. But but maybe yeah but but but but maybe hes more outspoken. Okay. Let me try and address i think nana or yourself said why do people hate him so much. Yeah this is what happens. Yeah okay. This is what happens. And same over here in and its the same over here in the uk. If are of a left the uk. If you are of a left wing political persuasion , then wing political persuasion, then you are considered to be more compassionate than of compassionate than somebody of a right wing political persuasion. Im saying its true, im not saying its true, but thats considered view. So thats the considered view. So you say what the hell you you can say what the hell you want to that side of politics because youre a monster. If you dont agree with unfettered immigration, if you, if you if you if you disagree with dinghies coming over, youre a monster. And youll be on that side of the political agenda and donald trump on that side. Donald trump is on that side. Yeah. Thing is, hes yeah. And the thing is, hes vocal yeah. And the thing is, hes vocal, brash. Hes vocal, hes brash. Hes a typical new yorker. And people on that side see him as a dangen on that side see him as a danger, as a risk. So they will bnng danger, as a risk. So they will bring down that quote unquote monster that donald trump is. They hate him. And you know what monster that donald trump is. Thejnoticedim. And you know what monster that donald trump is. Thejnoticed thislnd you know what monster that donald trump is. Thejnoticed this sinceyu know what monster that donald trump is. Thejnoticed this since workingwhat ive noticed this since working on since this fabulous on gb news since this fabulous channel its breath of channel started its breath of fresh this place, when you fresh air. This place, when you have rabid left winger on they have a rabid left winger on they have a rabid left winger on they have a rabid left winger on they have a pathological problem. Have a pathological problem. Theyre hardwired differently to common sense individuals. I think if a small think if youre a small c conservative, think its conservative, i think its a common thing. Youve got common sense thing. Youve got a decent approach life and they decent approach to life and they have hard wiring issue that have a hard wiring issue that they think youre a monster. Its some of them got its some of them have got pathological issues. I know this for and its not that as well. Like i mm youe very like i think youre very restricted you restricted sometimes what you can say, but donald trump just doesnt care. He just comes out with it. Truthfully i think he does. And thats why hes liked because honest. And feel because he is honest. And i feel that more connected to that hes much more connected to the people. Yeah, than the president. Theyve got him now. Well, joe biden, sleepy joe, well, hes not connected to anything. Hes apart from whatever medication taking whatever medication hes taking to of keep himself together. Him. Oh, bless him. Oh, bless him. Hes well. And no, but hes not well. And its obvious. And think its quite obvious. And i think its quite obvious. And i think its that they its actually cruel that they continue us this man who continue to show us this man who its like it clear to all its like it quite clear to all of us, any sane person that can see that hes not well. Yeah. And rolling him out and they keep rolling him out and hes making and pretending that hes making decisions he cant decisions. He cant make decisions. He cant make decisions. Doesnt know decisions. He doesnt even know what day it is. Does worry me a little trump does worry me a little bit his comments nato bit about his comments with nato and russia and the funding. Hes going to pull the funding that was completely out was for ukraine completely out of context. It . Well, the nato was it . Well, the nato comment initially because comment was initially because everyone oh, said hes everyone said, oh, he said hes going funding nato going to pull funding from nato and he said was and did it. No. What he said was for people not for those people who are not paying for those people who are not paying their 2 share, if russia comes to attack you, were not going to protect you because were paying for it all. He were paying for it all. And he says, know, he invited says, you know, and he invited putin go and get them because putin to go and get them because were and hes, were not going to and hes, hes doing and after were not going to and hes, hedid doing and after were not going to and hes, hedid that,ing and after were not going to and hes, hedid that, i g and after were not going to and hes, hedid that, i think and after were not going to and hes, hedid that, i think itand after were not going to and hes, hedid that, i think it was after he did that, i think it was uh, rather than 6 members of rather than 5 or 6 members of nato paying the it suddenly nato paying the 2, it suddenly went to 11 members of nato went up to 11 members of nato paying went up to 11 members of nato paying it worked. And as paying 2. So it worked. And as for ukraine, some people might agree dont want the agree that they dont want the war carry on because the more war to carry on because the more arms, it carries on. Arms, the more it carries on. But i dont know whats going to happen he said that happen there. But he said that he war. And what he could stop the war. And what is it, 48 hours or something . He could stop the war. And what is it, 4yeah,rs or something . He could stop the war. And what is it, 4yeah, becauseiething . He could stop the war. And what is it, 4yeah, becauseiethyou know trump yeah, because do you know why hes got why that hes got hes got a very relationship putin. Have got t they have got a very good relationship. They have got a very good relelionship. They have got a very good relelionshijukraine have just got i think ukraine have just got to theyre to accept that theyre going to concede russia. I just concede land to russia. I just cant thing ending. Cant see this thing ending. I think theyve got to just accept that moving westwards. That russia is moving westwards. Well and theyre to well and theyre just going to have accept well, theyve well and theyre just going to have bullied t well, theyve well and theyre just going to have bullied t submission. E been bullied into submission. If it this well would you if it was this country, you be happy to country, would you be happy to be able to accept it . If someone wanted look, if someone wanted london, wanted london, if someone wanted to take id let them have take this off, id let them have this city of london this stinking city of london come on over now. Own this horrible place that is london. This is horrible. It is. Its far too many people in there. Everyone bump into you everyone is like, bump into you and horrible. Go up north. And horrible. You go up north. Theyre friendly. And horrible. You go up north. Theyre frareily. And horrible. You go up north. Theyre frare some very nice there are some very nice parts of london. Im sure there are. Sure. Im sure there are. Sure. Im sure there are. Is very overcrowded. I think. Very polluted. The roads as well. Well. Yeah, but some people like it that you know, some people that way, you know, some people like and congestion that way, you know, some people like the and congestion that way, you know, some people like the homelessness. Estion that way, you know, some people like the homelessness. Its n and the homelessness. Its not actually even true that theyre as say , because as polluted as they say, because the is that theyve the bottom line is that theyve done measurements and readings and ridiculously and its not ridiculously polluted. The ulez polluted. It was thats the ulez argument agree you, but argument. I agree with you, but its bad as you know what its not as bad as you know what people you in the people are saying. You go in the tubes, then. Yeah, maybe the tube just just to answer tube is, but just just to answer your point, sorry im. Your point, sorry if im. Yeah. Your point, sorry if im. Yeacarry on wrestling no carry on wrestling controller no carry on wrestling conifyller no carry on wrestling conif putin says, look, i want if putin says, look, i want this land 100 miles to the west. And thats where im going to stop, think trump will stop, then i think trump will put pressure on zelenskyy to say, lad the land, say, give the lad the land, because has got end. Because this has got to end. Like i like, i do like i do like i like, i do like trump, i do. Trump, i do. I think ukrainians would accept because ukrainians accept that because ukrainians dont see thousands of dont want to see thousands of their killed. Yeah you their young men killed. Yeah you know, i feel so. I feel sorry for the russian soldiers who are getting blown in tanks. They getting blown up in tanks. They havent theyve havent asked for this. Theyve been think been press ganged. Well, i think that actually wives that actually the russian wives and the people whove come out after death of navalny, after the death of navalny, a lot have out and lot of women have come out and his went to see his body lot of women have come out and his everything|t to see his body lot of women have come out and his Everything Else see his body lot of women have come out and his Everything Else like1is body lot of women have come out and his Everything Else like that. Dy and Everything Else like that. Was the that was that was the guy that was killed prison because he was killed in prison because he was definitely it definitely killed. I mean, it was weird what was just really weird what happened there. So the mother went and went to see the body and everything and actually lots of people in support people came out and in support of think its the of him. And i think its the women will the change women that will make the change thats needed in russia. But listen, tuned. If you just listen, stay tuned. If you just joined welcome on board. Uh, joined us, welcome on board. Uh, on the way. Still to come in todays outside, joined by a todays outside, im joined by a former entrepreneur whos gone from rags riches and back from rags to riches and back again. He it onto the times again. He made it onto the times rich with of rich list with a wealth of almost 2 billion. But then recently declared bankruptcy. His is bob the builder. His nickname is bob the builder. Have you guessed who he is yet and will all will be revealed very shortly. Stay tuned. Dont very shortly. Stay tuned. Dont forget you can catch up online. But first lets get an update with your. Weather. With your. Weather. A brighter outlook with boxt solar sponsors of weather on. Gb news. Hello there and Greg Dewhurst and welcome to your latest gb news weather. Its quite a cold night tonight. Some frost and dense fog patches once more and then all eyes to the west as the next area of low pressure moves in. But its going to take its time. Areas seeing time. Western areas seeing outbreaks of rain through monday. Eastern monday. Northern and eastern areas holding weather areas holding on to dry weather until later this evening. Though skies clearing and skies are clearing and temperatures are starting to fall away overnight. Well see quite a widespread frost developing where winds are light. Well see some mist and fog patches forming freezing fog patches as temperatures fall below in the below freezing in the countryside, so there could be some tricky travelling conditions. First thing, conditions. First thing, particularly across central southern parts of the uk. Okay, southern parts of the uk. Okay, further west, however, the winds start to increase. Outbreaks of rain start to push in and then this slowly moves north and eastwards through the day. On monday, some heavier bursts in there possible, though , so parts there possible, though, so parts of scotland, northern and eastern parts of england will stay dry for much of the day. Plenty of sunny spells here and the winds from the the winds coming in from the south, lifting south, temperatures lifting a little higher than the weekend highs around 12 celsius in the best of any brighter weather in the south, then into tuesday, weather systems start to clear away. Were left with a legacy of showers across some western areas, but therell be plenty of sunny spells through the day. 1 or 2 of the showers could be on the heavy side the next few days. It will largely remains dry. Some bright dry. Therell be some bright or sunny spells at times. Temperatures above average. Temperatures above average. Looks like things are heating up boxt boilers sponsors of weather on. Gb news. Good afternoon. Its just coming good afternoon. Itsjust coming up good afternoon. Its just coming up to 5 00. This is gb news on tv, online and on Digital Radio. Im nana akua and for the next hour, me and my panel will be taking on some of the big topics hitting the headlines right now, coming up each sunday at five, im joined by a celebrity, a former mp someone an mp of someone whos had an extremely interesting career to take look at after the take a look at life after the job. We talk highs, lows and lessons comes lessons learnt and what comes next outside and today my next on the outside and today my guest , he went from rags to guest well, he went from rags to fiches. He guest well, he went from rags to riches. He lost guest well, he went from rags to riches. He lost a guest well, he went from rags to riches. He lost a fortune guest well, he went from rags to riches. He lost a fortune and made a fortune. I dont know made a fortune. 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What do you think . First, lets get your think . But first, lets get your latest with. Aaron. Latest news with. Aaron. Hey. Thanks, nana. Very good evening to you. It is 5 00. Im Aaron Armstrong. Tax cuts may be Aaron Armstrong. Tax cuts may be unlikely this weeks budget, unlikely in this weeks budget, with chancellor promising with the chancellor promising what as a prudent what hes described as a prudent spending plan. Reports suggest the governments been forced to revise figures with the revise its figures with the Office Budget Responsibility Office for budget responsibility saying theres around £2 billion less to spend than previously thought. Thats after britain was confirmed to have slipped into recession at the end of last year. Speaking to gb news earlier, said his earlier, jeremy hunt said his budget deliver better for budget will deliver better for value taxpayers. Value taxpayers. It is wrong to say that we should be putting more money into the Public Sector, fewer Civil Servants to be more productive, correct. Productive, correct. You want fewer people to do more. More. I think weve got to stop always at the inputs and always looking at the inputs and always looking at the inputs and always saying the to always saying that the way to get Better Public Services to get Better Public Services is to spend more and actually ask if we more efficient. We could be more efficient. Jeremy hunt also said today they protests in britain against they protests in britain against the war in gaza have crossed a line. He said hed heard from jewish people who are fearful of leaving their homes during large scale and called for the scale marches and called for the british virtue of tolerance to be restored. Those who preach be restored. Those who preach hate could be blocked from entering britain, reports claim. Entering britain, reports claim. The government is planning to identify and add dangerous extremists who visa warning lists theyd automatically be refused entry to the uk. Its refused entry to the uk. Its understood the new plans will extend current powers to include those who preach racism, intimidation or incite violence. It follows a warning from the Prime Minister on friday that democracy is being threatened by a rise in extremism. Police will a rise in extremism. Police will be required to undergo mandatory training on violence against women under new plans proposed by labour. The party has also vowed to revamp vetting procedures to prevent those with a history of Domestic Abuse or Sexual Offences from joining the police. This week, a report found Wayne Couzens should never have been given a job as a Police Officer because of his past behaviour. Police officer because of his past behaviour. Well, today past behaviour. Well, today marks three years since he killed Sarah Everard , who was killed Sarah Everard, who was 33, after tricking her into thinking she was being arrested , thinking she was being arrested, cousins was sentenced to life in prison and will never be released. A seven Year Old Girl released. A seven Year Old Girl has died after a migrant boat carrying 16 people capsized in the english channel, and shed been travelling with her pregnant mother, her father and three siblings when the boat got into difficulty in the early hours morning. Yemens hours of this morning. Yemens houthi militant groups issued a fresh threat against britain, warning that it will sink more british ships. The rebel group says the uk is a rogue state and has accused the government of attacking yemen and collaborating with the us in crimes against gaza. Now it crimes against gaza. Now it comes less than 24 hours after a british cargo ship, which was abandoned after a missile strike sankin abandoned after a missile strike sank in the red sea. The uk , the sank in the red sea. The uk, the us and the eu all have military ships patrolling the region to protect commercial vessels from the houthi rebels. They have been targeting the important shipping route , rail passengers shipping route, rail passengers are facing higher prices from today as fares across england and wales are hiked by almost 5. Thats despite train cancellations being amongst the worst in a decade. Labour has worst in a decade. Labour has accused the government of letting ticket prices rise almost twice as much as wages, with passengers now paying more for less. And to the united for less. And to the United States, where voting is underway in washington dc. After donald trump scored victories in missouri, michigan and idaho in his bid to become the republican nominee , an election rematch now nominee, an election rematch now looks ever more likely. A rematch with joe biden. A new poll shows. The current president trails mr trump, the former President Trump made several false claims, though, as he rallied support at the campaign events, including allegations that President Biden is smuggling people across the border. Mr trumps road to the white house is likely to be complicated by his various legal troubles. Hes facing 91 serious crimes across four criminal trials as on last nights brit awards were dominated by the singer songwriter ray. In a stunning turnaround for the 26 year old after she had been dumped by her old record label. Heres the moment she claimed one of the top honours. One of the top honours. Im so proud of this album. Im so proud of this album. Im in love with music. Im so proud of this album. Im in love with music. All i im in love with music. All i ever wanted to be was an artist and now im an artist with an album of the year. Well, she took to the stage with her grandmother and ray took home album and artist of the year and best new artist. She was also named songwriter of the and won the r b the year and won the r b categories public vote, so in total an astonishing six awards. Thats the most wins in a single yean thats the most wins in a single year, so congratulations to ray. You can get more on all of our stories by signing up to the gb news alerts. Use that qr code on news alerts. Use that qr code on your screen or go to gb news. Com slash alerts. Now back to. Nana thank you. Aaron. This is a gb news on tv online and on Digital Radio. Im nana akua and for the next hour, me and my panel will be taking on some of the big topics hitting the headunes the big topics hitting the headlines this show headlines right now. This show is all about opinion. Its mine. Is of course its is that. And of course its yours. Well be debating, yours. Well be debating, discussing times we will discussing and at times we will disagree, but one will disagree, but no one will be cancelled. So joining me today cancelled. So joining me today is broadcast. Cancelled. So joining me today is broadcast. And also is broadcast. And also journalist danny kelly and presenter and social commentator danielle mason. Still to come. Danielle mason. Still to come. Each sunday at five, im joined by a celebrity, a former mp or someone whos had an extremely interesting career to take a look at. Life after the job. We talk highs, lows and Lessons Learned and what comes next on the outside. And today im joined a property joined by a property entrepreneur gone from entrepreneur whos gone from rags to riches then back rags to riches and then back again. Hes it the again. Hes made it onto the times rich list with a wealth of almost £2 billion. But recently declared bankruptcy. Now the company he co founded lays claim to being the uks largest bungalow provider, and his nickname is bob the builder. Have you guessed it . Yes, you have. Have you guessed it . Yes, you have. Very good. Then for the have. Very good. Then for the Great British debate this hour, im asking should we put tobacco style warnings on ultra processed foods . Former prime processed foods . Former Prime Minister Boris Johnson thinks that we should, and hes calling on the government to take action. What do you think . As even action. What do you think . As ever, you can get in touch, email views at gb news. Com email gb views at gb news. Com or. Gb news. So or tweet me at. Gb news. So i was just coming up to seven minutes after 5 00 on each sunday, just after five, i am joined by celebrity, a former mp or someone whos had an extremely interesting career to take a look at. Life after the job. We talk highs, lows and Lessons Learned. What comes next on the outside and this week is no different because once he was among the elite of the sunday times rich list, my outside guests soared to prominence with an estimated fortune of almost 2 billion. But less than a year later , he ended up filing for later, he ended up filing for bankruptcy. Now, the company he bankruptcy. Now, the company he co founded lays claim to being the uks largest bungalow provider , and his nickname is provider, and his nickname is bob. The provider, and his nickname is bob. The builder. Any more clues . No more. Well, today im joined by a property entrepreneur, bob ball. Hello, bob. Hello. Can you fix it . Bob. Hello. Can you fix it . Maybe not this time. I dont know, bob. So talk to me about you. So know, bob. So talk to me about you. So know a bit about your background, where you were born, where you grew up, and what it was growing was like growing up. Up in, uh, um, i grew up in, uh, winchester, which is south england. Um, background was england. Um, background was a family very much into. Forgive family very much into. Forgive me, but building, um , and me, but building, um, and predominantly the family was in what was in the time the caravan industry. Industry. We and it evolved into sort of modular build bungalows. Of modular build bungalows. Um, and the family always found themselves sort of supplying new bungalows of a sort of Square Footage from about 500 square foot to sort of 1200 square foot. Um, we grew up in that trade. Its what we know. Its what we understand. Know. Its what we understand. Its probably all we understand. Its probably all we understand. And to be fair, um , and yeah, and to be fair, um, and yeah, you know, growing up, i had a happy childhood and, uh, good parents and, you know, a strong set of ethics and values. So no, set of ethics and values. So no, no complaints. No complaints. Uh, how many brothers and sisters do you have . I have three sisters. I have three sisters. Three sisters, all women. Good. Thats good. You dad taught then theyll taught you well, then theyll teach after. Teach you well after. The quality. I understand the quality. Very i understand the quality. Ver no problem very no problem at all. Very very important. Theyre good ladies. Yeah. Ladies. Fantastic. So this business of was it just your of yours, was it just your business, or was this a Family Business . It was always, uh, forgive me for cutting across you, but it was always a Family Business. It was always a Family Business. It was something that my grandfather had a vision, uh, many moons ago , from about 1945. Many moons ago, from about 1945. And although it never followed that, he handed it down to us. We started a business off in 2015. My father and myself, and a lot of my family members, my sisters, predominantly , um, and sisters, predominantly, um, and people that wed worked with in the industry, uh, from afar. It the industry, uh, from afar. It was, you know. Yeah i think we could say it was a Family Business, but we always wanted to be or grandfather wanted to be the largest bungalow provider in the uk because he thought, yeah, he saw that it was something that was needed. You got there with with now you got there with with the business and you were talking. You had an estimated fortune of 1. 9 billion. Was that . And when i asked im asking kind of was it your fortune or was it like the family fortune . Kind of was it your fortune or was it why the family fortune . Kind of was it your fortune or was it why the erah fortune . Thats why im. Yeah i for inheritance sort of tax planning. I for inheritance sort of tax planning. Um, and certain things i discussed with my father , um, i discussed with my father, um, it was always in my name. If that was , uh, but he was always that was, uh, but he was always a governing force , you know, and a governing force, you know, and not behind the scenes neither. You know, dad worked very hard until he was. You know, sadly lost last year at the age of 75. You know. Yeah. You know. Yeah. Sorry to hear that. Yeah but you managed to get to the status of billionaires 1. 9 billion. Thats what what happened . Thats what what happened . Um, how we got there was, uh, you know , forgive me, im not you know, forgive me, im not arrogant, but was no mistake. Um, we understood that, you know, bungalows were the most wanted property product at the minute. Um uh, my sister is currently doing a new development in norfolk of bungalows. I think about 70 of them, and theyre sort of selling very quickly in the area that she has there. We uh, you know, we identified like last year there was about 300 bungalows sold in the uk. We, uh bungalows sold in the uk. We, uh , went out, we bought land and they were caravan parks, to be fair with you, my friend. So what we did is we converted the planning permissions from what was caravan parks into residential modular build locations where we could sell new bungalows. We did that at a very fast pace. We bought the very fast pace. We bought the supply chain. So its a bit supply chain. So its a bit like, you know, we made the homes, we delivered the homes. You owned all parts of production, like a sort of mark communist. Communist ethos. Yeah. And did that , um, yeah. And we did that, um, just after we come out of covid, we managed to survive that , we managed to survive that, which amusing. Um, i saw which was amusing. Um, i saw a lot of hard times there. We came through that , um, we circled the through that, um, we circled the supply chain and what weve done is blocked and built the to business a stage. And obviously there was a tremendous amount of value. Um if you were to put us. But how did you lose it all, then . Well, um, theres been several, um, contributing factors to that. Um, you cant factors to that. Um, you cant say no fault of your own because you have to take responsibility yourself. But, um, we basically got to a size , uh, of about got to a size, uh, of about 4 billion, 4 billion of value. And if you put that against the House Builders in the united kingdom, um, it puts us, uh, alongside of them. So it was something extraordinary. We, you something extraordinary. We, you know, but we went through a process of refinancing. And, you process of refinancing. And, you know, for me, im. What does that mean . Because people will hear that and they think, what does it mean . Well, it would no well, it would be no different you a house different if you had a house and like a remortgage. Different if you had a house and like the a remortgage. Different if you had a house and like the only a remortgage. Different if you had a house and like the only differenceyrtgage. Different if you had a house and like the only difference withge. Yeah. The only difference with us we looking to us is we were looking to refinance 1. 9 billion. Same principle , just just a bigger principle, just just a bigger number. And about 800 million was going to be used for development to put install the communities, build the new bungalows, you know, employ more jobs. We had a we had a beautiful , um, company. And jobs. We had a we had a beaut people n, company. And jobs. We had a we had a beaut people ,. Company. And jobs. We had a we had a beaut people , you npany. And jobs. We had a we had a beaut people , you know, and jobs. We had a we had a beaut people , you know, wej jobs. We had a we had a beaut people , you know, we had these people, you know, we had about sort of 2000 employees. Anyway we went forward with a funder for that. To be fair, i thought was going to be the right people for it. They were a £30 billion fund and the facts of life are that they had a different agenda than us. We, my team, uh, all my Senior Management and my family believe we were on the right road, as did all of my eight lenders that we owed this 1. 9 billion to. Yeah all have been supportive. All have been fantastic lenders. Ihave all have been fantastic lenders. I have no complaints with any of them. Uh, but obviously your integrity gets damaged when you go for a long period of refit. Go for a long period of refit. Lansing. Its not just something that happens over a couple of months and basically we you know, what happened. Um, and know, what happened. Um, and its just facts. It was printed its just facts. It was printed in the times today. Its just facts. It was printed in the times today. We went to, in the times today. We went to, uh, bank a fund called Oaktree Capital partners. We found out they were a distressed lender. I had advisers from dla piper, a massive law firm in the city. Just be careful. Just be careful. We moved along every friday. They said they would be refinancing us. Um, and basically , uh, they pulled the basically, uh, they pulled the plug basically, uh, they pulled the plug on the 11th hour. If theres, if thats the right words to use and put us in an awful position. Um, all of our awful position. Um, all of our banks were , were following us. Banks were, were following us. They came with us. Why would they not . We were the, you know, uks biggest bungalow provider. Nothing wrong with the Business Model , nothing wrong with the Business Model, nothing wrong with the business. Were not here by business. And were not here by chance. Were here because its a plan. Of course. Um, a five year plan. Of course. Um, but know what we cant do is but you know what we cant do is we had that at the tail end of 2022, which was a was a terrible moment. And we travelled through moment. And we travelled through the, um, like i said, its printed in the times. But being with you today, we travelled through to about june. Its 21st through to about june. Its 21st of june. I can remember this because it was the day before my father and my sisters birthday, and, uh, no warning to me. We sat in, uh, a room with a lot of a lot of chairs. Great big desk. And they invited all of my good lenders, people that have supported me. I know them all by first name. Yeah um, you know, good and they sat them good people and they sat them down. Well, all of my lenders, they were there, ready to be they were sat there, ready to be repaid. And the guy, the repaid. Uh, and the guy, the principal there, a guy called charles blackburn. Youll have to forgive me. Theres no love loss there with me. With that guy, you name him in your article as i do, yes, i do article as well . I do, yes, i do. Um, you know, a guy , i wish. Um, you know, as a guy, i wish wed never, ever entertained or ever that ever met a guy like that shouldnt be running around writing any deals or doing any diligence. Not to here defend himself. Can Say Something . I and can i Say Something . I respect you know, for respect that, and, you know, for me, we where we are. Um, the me, we are where we are. Um, the thing with it is they bid all of my lenders £0. 40 in the pound. And they rightly should do, and as they rightly should do, uh , most of them got up within uh, most of them got up within 10s. And then some of them tried 10s. And then some of them tried to reason with they to reason with so, so they offered to repay 40 in the pound for every pound that was lent , they offered to repay lent, they offered to repay every that £0. 40 of that every pound that £0. 40 of that pound. So 40 of the debt. Yeah. Wow so 40 of the debt. Yeah. Wow yeah. So um, after that , uh, yeah. So um, after that, uh, that caused , uh, an implosion that caused, uh, an implosion with our lenders as there are other contribute ing factors. But, you know , theres not the but, you know, theres not the time on your show to run through that. But these were things that were not fault of ours or Senior Management. The banks have been management. The banks have been good that weve had. Um, you know, we were forced into positions where personal guarantees these were, um , uh, guarantees these were, um, uh, pushed on against me. And on the pushed on against me. And on the 1st of december, because of the aftermath of those events , we aftermath of those events, we basically we proposed an iva, an individual voluntary arrangement. But the judge saw fit on the day, uh, to bankrupt myself, which was a phenomenal shock. It which was a phenomenal shock. It was not planned. The iva was planned. And the idea was we planned. And the idea was we would go into an iva and then restart our things with the banks moving forward. Banks moving forward. So giving you the status of bankrupt is difficult in terms of getting any sort of refinancing and lenders and anything on board. What where are we now with everything then . We currently have . Um, when l, we currently have . Um, when i, when i say we um, i have to say that because its me and my family, um, we also if you said there were pillars of the television industry, then we have pillars within the bungalow industry , which are these are industry, which are these are people that , you know, we have people that, you know, we have the largest construction company, our disposal, the largest construction company, our disposal , the company, our disposal, the largest Part Exchange provider of houses in the uk. There are lots of working parts that we have and bring to the table. So have and bring to the table. So i class all of these people and some of the existing lenders , some of the existing lenders, although they may not be on board with it at the moment. We are over the course of march going to put fresh offers in front of them , try to front of them, try to recalibrate the lending , um, by recalibrate the lending, um, by about the 15th of the month, my friend , i will answer friend, i will have the answer to the iva. Um, its very personal to me. Um, i need the iva to be successful. Uh, iva to be successful. Uh, theres been 25 million introduced into the iva from, uh, professional colleagues because they see the benefit in me taking businesses forward. Me taking businesses forward. Uh, i would probably sit more as an advisor now, if that is successful , full. Um, you know, successful, full. Um, you know, we will move forward. As i said , we will move forward. As i said, um, one of the contributing factors to the business, and i have to be fair, and you would know this is Interest Rates. You know, uh, mr putin, im afraid, you know, nobody saw that guy invade in the ukraine. You know, you have inflation through the roof and you have whats called an economic shift, a 5 shift on Interest Rates is absolutely huge, with a large debt. Exactly. You know , you can do exactly. You know, you can do the numbers yourself and so can the numbers yourself and so can the viewers here. So for us, were now in a position where, where we will move forward with the iva. We will protect any private investors. We will look private investors. We will look at all of the banks and give them a route out with no losses. Them a route out with no losses. Um, something that im not arrogant, rude or anything , you arrogant, rude or anything, you know, along those lines. But but currently how i see and my friend, ive lost 300 million and thats a mine. And my familys money. So the route we have forward works. The Business Model has been changed, basically because of the Interest Rate rise. There are a lot more entry level homes. You have to remember that people can go out in the uk and buy an apartment, or they can buy a bungalow. Most people would bungalow. Most people would prefer bungalow. Bungalow. Most people would prefer bungalow. Um, so can prefer the bungalow. Um, so can i say, you know, we get up every day, we move forward for everything and we believe that this will be more than a bounce back because it was part of a five year plan, you know . Well, fine. Listen, because well, fine. Listen, because im running out of time. Sorry about that. Very quickly. No, its really you know, very interesting. You interesting. Listen to what you have say. So what would you have to say. So what would you say younger say to your, your younger self or before you made or your self before you made this deal. Is there any advice or you would have done or anything you would have done differentlyunderestimate it. Uh, never underestimate it. Uh, greed or jealousy. Never underestimate it. Never underestimate it. Never. Because, um , never. Because, um, fortunately, if you do that, youll fall folly to some of the positions that ive. I sit in today. Positions that ive. I sit in today. Um, positions that ive. I sit in today. Um, and positions that ive. I sit in today. Um, and then the next today. Um, and then the next thing id say is to listen to people without the want to reply , you know, take it in what theyre saying. And that would be the two points id probably list. You know , bob ball, thank list. You know, bob ball, thank you very much. Never underestimate mate, greed jealousy. Never underestimate mate, greed jealousy. Thank you. Greed or jealousy. Thank you. Very good. Ill take that with me. Thank you so that me. I was thank you so much that is bull. A property. Is bob bull. Hes a property. Property entrepreneur. Well stay tuned. Is gb news on tv, tuned. This is gb news on tv, onune tuned. This is gb news on tv, online and on Digital Radio. Coming up supplement sunday with my panel and i discuss some of the that caught the news stories that caught their its time their eye. But next its time for the Great British debate. This asking , should we this hour, im asking, should we put style warnings on put tobacco style warnings on ultra foods . Good 7 good afternoon. Just coming up to 25 minutes after 5 00. Im nana akua. This is a gb news. Nana akua. This is a gb news. Its time now for the Great British debate. This hour. Im asking, should we put tobacco style warnings on ultra processed foods . Boris johnson is calling on the government to do this in his daily mail column , the former Prime Minister says that people dont know what theyre feeding their families , theyre feeding their families, and theres too many extra ingredients. Thats why im ingredients. Thats why im asking should tobacco asking should we put tobacco style warnings on ultra processed . Well, joining me processed food . Well, joining me now discuss steve miller , now to discuss steve miller, former presenter of fat families, Helena Davidson, campaigner and policy expert at the Vegan Society right. So im the Vegan Society right. So im going to start with you, steve miller. What do you think . Miller. What do you think . Oh, im applauding boris today. Good on you, mate. Good on you, mate. Good on you, mate. Uh, and the reason for that is we know that the research on, uh, cigarette, you know, the warnings on cigarettes, i should say, those warnings were say, when those warnings were visual, they worked very well. In fact, i was reading a pubmed bit of research on that today. Bit of research on that today. Thats the first reason. The second reason, on a practical level , is that we need to start level, is that we need to start stop looking and listening before we start out, you know, grazing and putting things in the trolley and the third thing is that , you know, these kind of is that, you know, these kind of signs or these warnings, i should say, are kind of hypnotic. They trigger the emotion. So theyre much more likely to get people to think and maybe resist rather than what weve got at the moment, which is a very complicated , uh, which is a very complicated, uh, set of information about nutrition that the vast majority of people cant be bothered to read and actually dont understand. So i say, bring on understand. So i say, bring on the pot belly. The pot belly. Helena davidson, what do you think . Think . Yeah. So the at the Vegan Society, who were broadly in favour of increasing consumer knowledge and when it comes to the nutrition and nutritional value of peoples foods. Um, but value of peoples foods. Um, but i think its important to mention that ultra processed food isnt an issue thats exclusive to vegans. And whilst exclusive to vegans. And whilst most alternatives will fall most Meat Alternatives will fall into the ultra processed food category, it largely depends on how were going to look at how how were going to look at how how upfs are going to be assessed. Because as vegan alternatives that are fall under ultra processed foods , theyre ultra processed foods, theyre actually, on average, healthier than Meat Products or ultra processed foods that contain animal products. So i think it depends on how we look at it. We might have to take a closer look at the nutritional profile of individual foods , rather than individual foods, rather than the level of processing. The level of processing. So, helena, are you saying that so say vegan sausage that so say like a vegan sausage is actually healthier than an actual sausage . Yeah. So most meat yeah. So most Meat Alternatives, they have lower saturated fats , which is linked saturated fats, which is linked to high cholesterol. And they to high cholesterol. And they are higher sources of protein. Are higher sources of protein. They have fibre and iron and zinc and fibre is a major issue with ukip diets at the minute. And lots of people are lacking the essential fibre nutrients that they need. Um so it depends on basically what what kind of analysis theyre going to be using because some ultra processed foods can be healthier than others. Than others. Steve miller does this. Is steve miller does this. Is this the case that meat im sorry, im struggling to accept that that meat or say say its like a sausage would be worse for you than a vegan sausage . For you than a vegan sausage . We are a nation of fat farmers, arent we . We seem to talk about, you know , all of talk about, you know, all of this waffle all of the time. This waffle all of the time. We talk about policies, we talk about, you know, compare that this sausage. That sausage with this sausage. , lets using a listen, lets start using a bit old common sense. Bit of good old common sense. I agree with your other contributor. Yes. Do do a good analysis to identify what is an ultra processed food. Fine. But then what boris is saying is start putting a more blunt warn on the foods that are , uh, warn on the foods that are, uh, ultra processed foods to get people to stop and think. Because this nation is getting fatter and fatter. We are a nation of jelly belly jumbos , whether we like that or jumbos, whether we like that or not. And you know, boriss suggestion isnt fat shaming. Its actually life saving. So i say, bring on what is saying. And yes, im sure if boris takes his own medicine, he will go from a pud to a stud , frankly. From a pud to a stud, frankly. Well, lets bring on lucy beresford. Shes a psychologist and she can give us a thought on that because , lucy, this whole that because, lucy, this whole conversation is actually about the labelling. Should we have the labelling. Should we have some sort of warning on there . Because, you know, i dont i dont like any of the false sort of vegan kind of regurgitated food that isnt, you know, when youre saying its a sausage, its not a sausage. I dont know whats in it. Should we be putting this of warnings food . W came came into this well, i came into this conversation at the phrase jelly belly jumbos, so i really want to Pay Attention to the language that everyones using. The problem is , we can only the problem is, we can only really make good choices for ourselves if we have good information and we all metabolise food differently. Metabolise food differently. Were all different body types. Some of us are slim boned, some of us are big boned. Some of us are slim boned, some of us are big boned. We process of us are big boned. We process food different ways. As long food in different ways. As long as you know what youre actually eating , then you can make a more eating, then you can make a more informed choice. So you have to informed choice. So you have to have this information on the packaging. To given packaging. You have to be given those skills. If it was the nanny state, which the nanny state, which is the criticism hear , then the criticism i often hear, then the nanny remove those nanny state remove those products from the supermarket shelves in their entirety and that isnt whats happening. Whats happening is that people are being given information, which means they can then make a choice. Thats right for them. And frankly, we do sometimes need a little bit of salt, a little bit of fat. We need good fats. We need good sugars. So it isnt enough to just say, this food is good and this food is bad. It needs to be much more nuanced. Boris is talking about like a warning , like a tobacco warning, like on a tobacco package warn you of actually package to warn you of actually eating ultra processed food and, you know, i think we should know whats in it. Helena, do you think that that sort of warning then. Because there would be a lot the vegan processed lot of the vegan processed food that the warning that will have the warning on there processed . There if its ultra processed . Yeah, exactly. That kind of takes me back to what i was saying before. Um i dont think that blanket warning style that a blanket warning style label would work because these individual foods are going to have really different levels. Um, and different types of nutritional profiles. So you kind to look at in kind of have to look at it in a more thorough manner instead of just putting a blanket label across , um, lot of people, across, um, and a lot of people, when want reduce their when they want to reduce their animal they do go animal intake, they do go towards alternative products because it reminds them what because it reminds them of what theyre familiar with, so they wont to , you know, not wont want to, you know, not have these options available or be from choosing be scared away from choosing them um, because a them. Um, just because of a blanket label thats been put on them. Um well, let me let me come to you very briefly. Then each one of you, uh, should we keep these, should we put of tobacco, put these kind of tobacco, tobacco on ultra tobacco style warnings on ultra processed food . Yes or no . Steve absolutely. 100. Absolutely. 100. Eleanor. Yes or no . Eleanor. Yes or no . Um, i would think yes. Yes, but we need to have a bit more. Um, so its a yes. Cool. Thank you. And lucy beresford, yes or no . Yes or no . Absolutely. Yes keep people informed. Yeah. All right. Lovely. Thank you so much. Sorry you couldnt talk longer. Uh, steve miller, former presenter for fat families Helena Davidson campaign and policy at campaign and policy expert at the society. And of the Vegan Society. And of course, lucy berrisford. Shes a psychotherapist. Thank you so much,. And of this much, lucy. And all of you. This is gb news. Im nana akua coming up. Well continue with the great debate hour. Great british debate this hour. Im asking, should we put tobacco warnings ultra tobacco style warnings on ultra processed hear processed food . Youll hear the thoughts my danny thoughts of my panel, danny kelly mason. But kelly and danielle mason. But first, lets get your latest. News hi there. Good evening to you. Itsjust hi there. Good evening to you. Its just after 5 30. Im Aaron Armstrong. The chancellor Aaron Armstrong. 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Former Prime Minister Boris Johnson has raised concerns about the Health Impact of them and is calling on the government to put warnings on there. So in his daily mail column, boris people column, boris said that people dont theyre feeling dont know what theyre feeling feeding families there feeding their families and there are many extra ingredients. Are too many extra ingredients. Thats why asking. So im thats why im asking. So im asking, for the great asking, sir, for the Great British debate this out. Im asking, should we put tobacco style on ultra style warnings on ultra processed food . Lets see what my of joining my panel make of that. Joining me, journalist me, broadcaster and journalist danny presenter and danny kelly, also presenter and social commentator danielle mason. Uh, danny kelly, im mason. Uh, danny kelly, im starting you. Starting with you. Oh, come to the fat guy oh, you come to the fat guy on the panel. Im not a do it yourself. Im not a do it yourself. Predictable. Im not a do it yourself. Youre predictable. Im not a do it yourself. Youre p|chef,3ble. Im not a do it yourself. Youre p|chef, though , youre a chef, though, werent you . I you, i was a chef of i wash you, i was a chef of many trades. Yep. I was a chef, and i was. Yep. I was a chef, and i was. I also a very kid. Like i was also a very fat kid. Like disproportionate. Look, im overweight. Ive lost two stone overweight. Ive lost two stone in quarters the last. In three quarters over the last. Say well, ever since met her, say well, ever since i met her, ever since i met her face taking the mickey out of me. No i have lost a stone in three quarters. Believe ten years believe it or not, ten years ago, was a boxing ring and ago, i was in a boxing ring and i four stone than i was four stone lighter than i am today. Then you get am today. And then you get married. You you put weights on and dont exercise. Yeah, and you dont exercise. Yeah, you comfortable so you you do get comfortable so you dont exercise as much. But i was fat when i was was a dead fat kid when i was a kid, and i fat. I could kid, and i was fat. And i could talk about this now, but when i was a kid, was bullied and was a kid, i was bullied and that. And that had such that. Yeah. And that had such a profound effect on me that i used to find comfort in eating. Used to find comfort in eating. 0h, used to find comfort in eating. Oh, yeah. And also , looking back oh, yeah. And also, looking back at it, i was so anxious and stressed. I used im a bald man. Now, for those listening on the radio, but i used to sort of pull my own hair out. So i had this anxiety and i used to find thats i used to find thats it. And i used to find comfort in eating. Thats anxiety. Thats anxiety. Anxiety. And i remember it is anxiety. And i remember my and dad would have dinner my mum and dad would have dinner parties my mum used make parties and my mum used to make this sauce of this fabulous chocolate sauce of log. Chocolate log, log. It was chocolate log, melted chocolate with with digestive biscuits, loads of beautiful. It was. And i beautiful. It was. And i remember i would regularly just eat it all and then id throw up. It was on purpose or. Oh no no it was on purpose or. No, no i didnt. I felt sick after eating. It wasnt bulimia. I just threw up because id eaten too much. I id yeah, yeah. Threw up because id eaten too much. I id yeah, yeah. And so much. I id yeah, yeah. And so what you know, i do feel sympathy for people who are dead fat. You know, when i see someone really sort of waddling down the street and theyre huge , you know, almost like with pillows of fat just sort of squeeze away from them. Be more graphic if you like. Could be. But but a thyroid problem, though. But it but it could be. Though. But it but it could be. But it probably is because they just eat too much and then i. Yeah. And then i think maybe theres a reason because ive gone through theres always a traumatic reason why people eat too though. Traumatic reason why people eat too you ough. Traumatic reason why people eat too you know, thats why i and you know, thats why i couldnt trainer. And you know, thats why i couldnt trainer. Didnt couldnt be a trainer. I didnt work as personal work out for me as a personal trainer. So id be saying, come on, get out, and it doesnt work. I wasnt ready to deal work. You i wasnt ready to deal with the psychological aspect of it. They needed a it. You know, they needed a psychologist deal with that psychologist to deal with that before, know. And i think before, you know. And i think that people are that actually people who are overweight, they want to lose weight need to address the actual but coming back to actual issue. But coming back to these the food, i agree. Think that they they the i think that they they the food should have warnings on them like tobacco them, like tobacco style warnings. Yes. 100 think warnings. Yes. 100 i think people need to know what theyre eating, theyre putting in eating, what theyre putting in their but their own bodies. But but different to danny. Im going to different to danny. Im going to go more on the mental side of it, the behaviour, because when you have these highly processed foods, it can really affect kids behaviour. Yeah. So i like to know what my kids are eating because i can sit with my because i can sit down with my children and give them something to one minute into a to eat. And one minute into a film, ones doing headstand to eat. And one minute into a film,tores doing headstand to eat. And one minute into a film,to me doing headstand to eat. And one minute into a film,to me where headstand to eat. And one minute into a film,to me where theyretand to eat. And one minute into a film,to me where theyre hot to eat. And one minute into a film,to me where theyre hot , so next to me where theyre hot, so hyperactive swear its off hyperactive and i swear its off this food. So i need to know. I need to know what my children are eating it reins are eating so that it reins their behaviour in. Do ready meals. Do ready meals. Or do you cook . I try not, i cook, yeah, but obviously like when sit down, sometimes when we sit down, sometimes well have little treat. But well have a little treat. But then think, jesus, did then i think, jesus, why did i give treat when theyre give him that treat when theyre climbing would climbing the walls like would one of these. There was picture of so if there was a picture of a fat person with, you a really fat person with, you know, teeth. Yeah. Uh, on know, rotten teeth. Yeah. Uh, on this as a warning, would that stop you from buying it . No, ive to say um, no, no, ive got to say that i love the taste of processed does make processed food. It does make food taste so much tasty , but i food taste so much tasty, but i think that it should just have a warning. Like very, very, like, high in. Not necessarily a picture, but i think there should be some sort of a warning. I think on the traffic light symbols though, havent they put a picture on then well, a a picture on it then of well, a bigger person, i, i dont know, but its got to something but its got to be something graphic associated being but its got to be something graphfatissociated being but its got to be something graphfat and iated being but its got to be something graphfat and thed being but its got to be something graphfat and the only being but its got to be something graphfat and the only thing|g but its got to be something graphfat and the only thing i dead fat and the only thing i can think of fat, its about like health and the like your health and the behaviour problems that youre getting. Youve getting from children. Youve also women well also got pregnant women as well that, um, its theres been a scientific fact that , uh, some scientific fact that, uh, some foods that pregnant women are eating is causing, um, foods that pregnant women are eating is causing , um, autistic, eating is causing, um, autistic, um , traits in their children. Um, traits in their children. Yeah. Where was this . Where was this . Where was this . Its a scientific fact. Is it . Where did you read that . Where did you read that . Where did you read that . On the internet. Oh, on the. On the internet. Oh, on the. You know, it would be. Do you know it would be devastating. Doctors have said it. Yeah. Doctors have said it. Yeah. A tangent. Know, just on a tangent. You know, when crews stories like when tv crews do stories like this send a camera crew when tv crews do stories like thisand send a camera crew when tv crews do stories like thisand they send a camera crew when tv crews do stories like thisand they justd a camera crew when tv crews do stories like thisand they just go camera crew when tv crews do stories like thisand they just go around crew out and they just go around recording dead people, but out and they just go around recordontiead people, but out and they just go around recordontiead themyple, but out and they just go around recordontiead themyple, lthe they dont show them from the neck wouldnt it be neck above. Wouldnt it be devastating see yourself on devastating to see yourself on the box . Youll as someone the box . Youll be as someone dead and then dead fat, walking down and then all of sudden that dress looks all of a sudden that dress looks like dress. Well, just. Like my dress. Well, just. Just because we cant verify what you said, danielle. Because ive oh, okay. Ive looked and saw. Oh, okay. But yeah, okay. That might be true. But true. It might not be, but i cant verify that. So just what did see . Did you see . About pregnant people. Okay. Pregnant people. You mean pregnant people. You mean women . Youre on wrong women . Yeah. Youre on the wrong channel. Pregnant channel. If you say pregnant people, the whole channel. If you say pregnant people, people. The whole pregnant people. Women women. Its women. Women only women. Yeah. Women pregnant. But yes. No, all right, no, but we hear. All right, well, got ive got well, listen, ive got ive got my little game and its called sugar sugar all right. Sugar or not. Sugar all right. So youve got to say whether its sugar whether is its not sugar or whether it is so just say yes or for so it just say yes or no for yes. Its yes its sugar and no its sugar. Okay all right. Its not sugar. Okay all right. Carob syrup, carrots. Carob syrup, carrots. What. What. Carob syrup. Whats that. Carob syrup. Whats that. Sugar or not. Sugar uh, sugar. Im going to say not sugar. Uh, sugar. Im going to say not sugar. Not sugar. Say sugar. Ill say sugar. Ill say sugar. Well, is sugar. Its sugar well, it is sugar. Its sugar. Know what it uh, what. I know what it is. Uh, what about about rice about syrup . What about rice syrup . Sugar not so good. Theres a theres a theme running here with syrup. Um, im going the opposite. I made that up just now. Oh. Um. Made that up just now. Oh. Um. And all these up . What and you make all these up . What about grape syrup . Sugar . Sugar . About grape syrup . Sugar . Sugar . Syrups . Im going to sugar syrups . Im going to say no sugar, no sugar , no sugar say no sugar, no sugar, no sugar at all. In fact, its called, uh, grape sugar. But it is, is grape sugar. But what it is, is what so what they what they put. So what they put on packaging are things like on the packaging are things like agave nectar. Thats another word sugar. Agave nectar. Thats another word is sugar. Sugar. Agave nectar. Thats another word is sugar. Barley sugar. Agave nectar. Thats another word is sugar. Barley malt ugar. Agave nectar. Thats another word is sugar. Barley malt is ar. That is sugar. Barley malt is sugar. That is sugar. Barley malt is sugar. Uh, that is sugar. Barley malt is sugar. Uh, barley malt syrup is sugan sugar. Uh, barley malt syrup is sugar. Beet sugar is sugar. Theres these different theres all these Different Things, cane juice, all things, uh, cane juice, all these Different Things that are actually sugar. And they put it on packaging. Dont on the packaging. You dont realise so realise youre eating sugar, so you there are 61 you need to read. There are 61 different names for sugar. And this problem. So lets go this is the problem. So lets go to see to our grape voice and see whether think that um, whether they think that um, these things should have sort of health them because these things should have sort of healshows them because these things should have sort of healshows nothing them because these things should have sort of healshows nothing withoutacause these things should have sort of healshows nothing without you se this shows nothing without you and lets welcome and your views. Lets welcome them four of you. Them on. Theres four of you. Oh, you. Oh, theres three of you. Theres three. Thats far. Theres three. Thats not far. All so joining me , all right then. So joining me, ive got, uh, miranda richardson, not the miranda richardson, not the miranda richardson, our miranda richardson, but our miranda richardson. Shes from northamptonshire. Miranda do we need these cigarette style warnings . Good afternoon. Um do you know again . You know what again . Its slightly. Yes. Warnings would be great, wouldnt they . Um, because. Yeah, again, were um, because. Yeah, again, were were not making people think for themselves. Um , youre just showing them um, youre just showing them pictures and going, oh, there you go. Em e that. Weve dont eat that. Weve actually go back few actually got to go back a few steps , um, the of home steps, um, to the days of Home Economics in school cooking, where we learned what we were cooking with. We learned how to cooking with. We learned how to cook fresh ingredients. Cook fresh ingredients. People dont know how to cook. Now, i can make a bolognese sauce from scratch, you know, with tomatoes , with you know, with tomatoes, with onions, with herbs, with spices. Onions, with herbs, with spices. I dont have to buy a jar of sugar loaded processed tomato based soup, you know, sauce or even the even a pre made one. Lets get to jacqui samson. Jacqui exactly. Jacqui in saint albans. Albans. Hi. Hi, nana. Yes, i absolutely agree. There should absolutely agree. There should be full transparency in packaging. I spend a lot of time in the states, and whilst theres a lot of ingredients listed like somebody was saying earlier, you dont know what that really is, that it is sugar. And more importantly, if we ever do go down the gm route, i want to know the provenance of my foods. I want to know about the welfare of the animals. And the welfare of the animals. And i think we need to know its not just about getting fat, its about Heart Disease, dementia , about Heart Disease, dementia, uh, menopause problems. I think our diet is big food controls so much, and i it would make it much, and i it would make it much more expensive for people as well. Theyve got to pay for food , especially. Good evening food, especially. Good evening nana. Yes i totally agree with bofis nana. Yes i totally agree with Boris Johnson and everyone on, um. Im a Firm Believer you are what you eat and prevention is better than cure. We know that ultra processed food has an increased amount of unsaturated fat , salt and increased amount of unsaturated fat, salt and sugar, and as a result, an increased risk of Heart Disease , obesity, high Heart Disease, obesity, high Blood Pressure , and other Blood Pressure, and other health, um, illnesses. So therefore, as we have seen with the labels and the warnings on cigarette boxes , we know that on cigarette boxes, we know that the evidence and Research Shows that that has worked to help reduce people smoking. In the reduce people smoking. In the same way we can reduce people , same way we can reduce people, um, eating ultra processed food. All right. Thank you so much. Lovely to talk to you. Mudaliar lovely to talk to you. Mudaliar in milton keynes. Uh, also the in milton keynes. Uh, also the fabulous Jackie Thompson and also miranda richardson. This is gb news on tv, online and on Digital Radio coming up, my mini debate on ltns or low traffic neighbourhood cameras exploiting drivers for hundreds of pounds is good afternoon. This is gb news good afternoon. This is gb news on tv, online and on Digital Radio. Im nana akua and its time for a story that caught my eye. The time for a story that caught my eye. The implementation of low traffic neighbourhoods known has caused controversy over Hounslow Councils alleged targeting of school run parents with hefty fines, now these fines have totalled a staggering 26 million over three years, from just three ccs tv cameras and campaigners feel its a deliberate strategy to exploit motorists with evidence suggesting that fines peak precisely when parents are most active on the roads. So precisely when parents are most active on the roads. So im going to ask my panel what do you think . Are these low traffic neighbourhoods exploiting our drivers . Joining me, danny kelly drivers . Joining me, danny kelly and danielle mason. And also danielle mason. Danielle do you drive to danielle mason, do you drive to schools or drop off your kids . I do, sometimes i walk, but a lot of the time were running late, so im driving. But but the thing i like about this , not that i like about this, not that i like motorists getting exploited , but motorists getting exploited, but the thing i like about this is it was to make it a more liveable neighbourhood , so the liveable neighbourhood, so the children roads and children can go in the roads and they theres less they can play, and theres less traffic. So i kind of , i do. Traffic. So i kind of, i do. Danny kelly do low traffic neighbourhoods. The big problem with ltns, as theyre known, is that youve got bollards blocking one end of the street. And if you need a fire engine at three in the morning or a paramedic there was a story someone having a story where someone was having a story where someone was having a couldnt get a cardiac and they couldnt get the of these the ambulance past all of these massive pots and so they massive flower pots and so they had to leg it down the street with their kit. A with all of their kit. You get a fire, house fire. Fire, your house fire. Yeah , yeah, i dont know. Yeah, yeah, i dont know. I think theres an argument for them, think need to them, but i think they need to weigh properly because weigh them up properly because the if youre making money then if youre making money off people of it, put cctv people out of it, they put cctv cameras making money cameras and making money out of it. A money but it. This is a money spinner, but right now, though, time for right now, though, its time for supplement my supplement sunday, where my Panel Discuss the panel and i discuss some of the stories their eye. Stories that caught their eye. Im start first with a im going to start first with a cambridge. No, thats my last cambridge. Oh no, thats my last one. With that danny one. I end with that danny kelly, this kelly, whats your well, this is heartbreaking. Heartbreaking. Were animal if were if were animal lovers, guinea found lovers, a guinea pig is found abandoned at London Underground station heartbreaking station with a heartbreaking note attached. And theres a photograph of a lovely of photograph of a lovely sort of caramel white guinea pig. Caramel and white guinea pig. And it was a in a cat carrier and it was in a in a cat carrier saying, need a new owner. Oh saying, i need a new owner. Oh im a guinea pig. Why, on the tube . Why, on the tube . Um, i dont know, but it was found by. Hey, listen, its in a great place now. Its at the rspca. A beautiful little thing. Rspca. A beautiful little thing. Little cat , ginger, one little little cat, ginger, one little ginger. Ginger. Thats it. Ginger. One ginger. Guinea pig. Ginger. One ginger. Guinea pig. Bless his heart. What about you, danielle . Um, i picked out, you, danielle . Um, i picked out, um, Prince William and Princess Anne getting more on their royal dufiesis anne getting more on their royal duties is taking over from charles and camilla. Because camillas exhausted. Because camillas exhausted. Uh, shes been on 13. Um royal engagements without her child. Engagements without her child. Um, and i was quite excited for Prince William to be stepping up. Stepping up . Yeah, i think theyre very popular royals. And i think that people would love to see them more. Yeah, definitely. Definitely. Well my ones an interesting one. Its about a cambridge academic who got trapped in a medieval town and used eyeliner pencil as used her eyeliner pencil as a cotton bud to escape. Yeah, she was up there and literally it was up there and literally it was like a medieval sort of thing. I think it was at the university wherever thing. I think it was at the universand, wherever thing. I think it was at the universand, um, wherever thing. I think it was at the universand, um, no wherever thing. I think it was at the universand, um, no oneierever thing. I think it was at the universand, um, no one well,r she is. And, um, no one well, nobody sort of knew she was up there. She realised that the there. So she realised that the cleaner somebody wouldnt be cleaner or somebody wouldnt be there for many, hours. There for many, many hours. I think 100 hours. Think she said about 100 hours. So few days. And she was so a good few days. And she was trapped toilet with the trapped in this toilet with the lock that had broken. That my worst nightmare. So she an eyeliner so she used an eyeliner pencil bud to pick pencil and a cotton bud to pick the out. Really the lock to get out. Really lucky. She had an eyeliner and a cotton bud on her. Did it take her 100 hours . No. Took her seven . No, seven. Seven oh, seven hours. Seven hours. Oh, seven hours. Okay. Made seven hours. Escape picking the with escape picking the lock with eyeliner escape picking the lock with eereah. Eyeliner yeah. Eyeliner yeah. Eyeliner what . What . I love this horrible. Yeah. Its true. Yes. You did. Its incredible. Thats a remarkable. Thats a remarkable. Thats a remarkable. Thats a remarkable sunday supplement. She managed to keep you know, keep her not not be scared because most people should panic and go ah, youre claustrophobic arent you . Yeah. That would be we have that. It would be absolute it would be an absolute nightmare. I would nightmare. I think i would die of panic oh, no. Of a panic attack. Oh, no. Need you here, danielle. We need you here, danielle. Well, listen , uh, thank you so well, listen, uh, thank you so much company. Well, listen, uh, thank you so much company. Its just much for your company. Its just on weve been on todays show. Weve been asking , have faith in asking, have you lost faith in the Government Spending taxpayers money . And according to our twitter poll, 94 of you say yes. Nearly everyone, 6 of say yes. Nearly everyone, 6 of you say no. Theres a poll. You say no. Theres a poll. Thank you so much to my panel, broadcaster and journalist danny kelly and also presenter and social commentator danielle mason. And as ever, a huge thank you to you for your company. Ill be back same time, same place next week , 3 00 on gb place next week, 3 00 on gb news. Dont forget as well you can download the gb news app where you can catch up with all the programmes on the channel, and you can stream all the shows live youtube, make sure you live on youtube, make sure you have a look my monologue. Have a look at my monologue. Its pleasure as ever. Its been a pleasure as ever. Have and i look have a fabulous week and i look forward to seeing you next week saturday time , same saturday 3 00. Same time, same place. Enjoy have a fabulous week. Take care. Bye Hahaha Hahaha Hahaha Hahaha. Hahaha Hahaha Hahaha. Looks like things are heating up boxt boilers sponsors of weather on. Gb news. Weather on. Gb news. Hello there and Greg Dewhurst and welcome to your latest gb news weather. Its quite a cold night tonight. Some frost and dense fog patches once more and then all eyes to the west as the next area of low pressure moves in. But going to take its in. But its going to take its time. Areas seeing time. Western areas seeing outbreaks of rain through monday. And eastern monday. Northern and eastern areas holding on to weather areas holding on to dry weather until later evening, though until later this evening, though skies are clearing and temperatures are starting to fall away overnight , well see fall away overnight, well see quite a widespread frost developing where winds are light. See some mist and light. Well see some mist and fog patches forming freezing fog patches temperatures fall patches as temperatures fall below freezing in the countryside , so there could be countryside, so there could be some tricky travelling conditions. First thing, particularly across central southern parts of the uk. Further west , however, the winds further west, however, the winds start to increase. Outbreaks of start to increase. Outbreaks of rain start to push in and then this slowly moves north and eastwards through the day. On monday , some heavier bursts in monday, some heavier bursts in there possible , though parts of there possible, though parts of scotland , northern and eastern scotland, northern and eastern parts of england will stay dry for much of the day. Plenty of for much of the day. Plenty of sunny here and the winds sunny spells here and the winds coming south, coming in from the south, temperatures lifting a little higher the weekend. Highs higher than the weekend. Highs around 12 celsius in the best of any brighter weather in the south, then into tuesday, weather systems start to clear away. Were left with a legacy of showers across some western areas, but therell be plenty of sunny spells through the day. 1 or 2 of the showers could be on the heavy side. The next few days. Largely remains days. It will largely remains dry. Some bright or dry. Therell be some bright or sunny times. Sunny spells at times. Temperatures average , and temperatures above average, and that warm feeling inside from boxt boiler as sponsors of weather on. A spending plan will be prudent and responsible, the chancellor says the economic headroom set out by financial forecasts has gone against the government, with the for Office Budget responsibility calculating he has £2 billion less to spend than previously thought. Than previously thought. Speaking to gb news earlier , speaking to gb news earlier, jeremy hunt said his budget will deliver better value for taxpayers. It is wrong to say that we should be putting more money into the Public Sector, fewer Civil Servants to be more productive, correct . You want fewer people to do more. More. I think weve got to stop always looking at the inputs and always looking at the inputs and always saying that the way to get Better Public Services is to spend more and actually ask if we could more efficient. We could be more efficient. Meanwhile the chancellor says combating extremism is about restoring the traditional british virtue of tolerance. British virtue of tolerance. Jeremy hunt says protests in britain against the war in gaza have crossed a line, leading to people feeling intimidated and unsafe. Well those who preach unsafe. Well those who preach hate could be blocked