Lets spend the night together is rarely off her playlist. Connor tomlinson and goes his own way, so its no surprise hes a massive Fleetwood Mac aficionado. And money, money, aficionado. And money, money, money. Its the only reason Benjamin Butterworth is here. He just so happens to be a massive abba fan. You know the drill. We all set the scene regarding our chosen topic. Then everyone piles in and the behaviour gets so bad it would put most rock stars to shame. And of course we want to know your views as well. Get in touch, email gbviews gbnews. Com. But before we start tearing each other apart, its time for your saturday night news with tatiana sanchez. Darren, thank you and good evening. Your top stories from the gb newsroom at dozens of pro palestine marchers took to the streets across britain today after the Prime Minister called on organisers not to let extremists hijack the protests. In a speech last night, rishi sunak called for the nation to unite and said islamist extremists and far right groups are spreading poison. It are spreading poison. It followed George Galloways controversial win in the rochdale by election this week, which the Prime Minister described as beyond alarming. Described as beyond alarming. The us military has carried out its first airdrop of aid into gaza. It comes after the deaths of palestinians queuing for food brought renewed attention to the growing humanitarian catastrophe. President biden says he hopes to see a ceasefire agreement between israel and hamas before the start of ramadan on the 10th of march, an mp who defected from the Scottish National party to the tory party says she faced terrible abuse. Doctor lisa terrible abuse. Doctor lisa cameron switched parties last year after suffering what she described as toxic treatment by the snps westminster group. The snps westminster group. Shes accused her former party of turning a blind eye after years in the toxic snp. Years in the toxic snp. It is just so refreshing for me to have a place in a party where we support each other and where we support each other and where we support each other and where we Work Together as a team. I knew that leaving snp would mean i would become a target for the very , very worst target for the very, very worst of nationalism. But the bile and of nationalism. But the bile and the vile threats that i have received were beyond even my wildest imagination. In wildest imagination. In and the red carpet is out for the best of britains music industry. Ahead of tonights brit awards, including the princess of pop , everybodys princess of pop, everybodys doing a brand new dance now come on, let it together comprise singing super star Kylie Minogue will be crowned this years global icon. Later, shell perform a medley of some of her greatest hits, leading the main awards, however, is ray, whos already broken records with seven nominations, the most in a single year. Well, shes up against some stiff competition with dua lipa and olivia dean also up for key awards as for the latest stories, you can sign up to gb news alerts by scanning the qr code on your screen. Or you can go to gb news. Com slash alerts. Now its back to the saturday five. Its saturday night and youre with the saturday five. Im Darren Grimes and i can promise that youre in for a very lively hour. Were going to very lively hour. Were going to crack on with tonights first debate. Its me , first of all, debate. Its me, first of all, and ill tell you what im ringing those alarm bells like a geordie at saint jamess park. Because i want to talk to you about the case of sam melia, a man to two years in man sentenced to two years in jail for running a sticker library. And now i think its actually a chilling for actually quite a chilling for cast. Maybe you wouldnt cast. Melia, maybe you wouldnt want him over for a cup of tea with your mother, but since when did stickers become more criminal than actual crime . His slogan was shouted of White Genocide and muslim rape gangs offensive . Sure but judge baileys kc the same bloke who showed leniency towards assault on a Police Officer on drug dealers as a teenager, caught with a stash that would make Pablo Escobar blush and decides that stickers are actually where we draw the line. When i say pull, the other one mallyas convict isnt a strike against violence. He never called for that. Violence. He never called for that. His stickers, distasteful that. His stickers, distasteful as they might be, werent illegal. Weve got stickers plastered all over london right now for everything from palestine to socialist to genocide. And yet melia is the one in the clink. Its not against the law to own a dodgy picture or a controversial book, is it . Which apparently he did the judgement says that this is about more than melia stickers. Its the start of something, i think a bit darker for stickers today. Think a bit darker for stickers today. What tomorrow were today. What tomorrow were defending free speech. The cornerstone of any democracy in liberal society, and without it , liberal society, and without it, were on a one way trip to a world where legal, political beliefs could land you in prison. Well, i think we ought to stand firm on this. No compromise. Every voice matters. Even the ones wed rather not hear and feel quite uncomfortable about and with. And as for those marches through london calling for all sorts whilst this melia chap gets banged up for stickers, if you ask me, thats not justice. Thats playing favourites. And i thats playing favourites. And i think thats a seriously dangerous precedent for a Justice System to actually set. Justice system to actually set. Now im going to start with you, connor. Now im going to start with you, connor. Are now im going to start with you, connor. Are you of the view that this bloke should be in prison for two years and not for the content of the stickers, nor the content of the stickers, nor the content of the stickers, nor the content of his bedroom . No. Now let me clarify again when im with you on that, i dont agree with this guys views. You belong to patriotic alternative, the leader of patriotic patriotic alternative, not proscribed group , by the not a proscribed group, by the way. And that is important. Uh, way. And that is important. Uh, said he would save hitlers said that he would save hitlers mein kampf from a burning fire. This fella had a photo of hitler in gym. Okay, in his personal gym. Okay, cringeworthy. Completely disagree dont disagree with it. And dont agree politics should agree with this. Politics should he locked up for stickers he be locked up for stickers that we are going to be that say we are going to be white british, a minority our white british, a minority in our homeland no and i say homeland by 2066 . No and i say its not a proscribed group because, for example, the leader of ut tahrir on of hizb ut tahrir who went on another who proudly another channel, who had proudly declared the 7th declared the october the 7th massacre, where massacre, the time where the enemy given deserved punch enemy was given a deserved punch on his group has been on the nose. His group has been proscribed and no taken proscribed and no actions taken against him. Hes not prison. Against him. Hes not in prison. Why terrorists of why is it that terrorists of a certain flavour are given carte blanche, whereas fellas like this offensive things, sure, this say offensive things, sure, but given longer but theyre given longer sentences sex sentences than most actual sex criminals. Criminals. I mean, belinda, do you share those were those sentiments . We were speaking backstage and you said. And i said, you must say that. Oh, you were bang on. Its the double standards, really everyone just really. I think everyone just wants fair play. I mean, its part of British Culture, this this need to be treated equally, especially in a society thats changed. So rapidly over the last few decades. We need that equal treatment. And where you had the two girls that were wearing the highly offensive sticker , or labours labels of sticker, or labours labels of the paraglider. Yes, of hamas paragliding in to rape and kill all, all those poor young people at the Music Festival and they were let off with a slap on the wrist. And i just feel like it is going to increase suspicion and division in communities unless justice treats everybody completely equally. Completely equally. But they shouldnt have been let off with a slap on the wrist. And i dont think melia should be let off with a slap on the wrist either. Okay, but why is it happening . Maybe, maybe two is too two years in prison . Is too long, maybe the punishment long, and maybe the punishment is harsh. This got is too harsh. But this guy got done for inciting racial hatred. I believe in a court and a jury decided that that was he decided that that was what he was to charged. Was he was going to be charged. Was he calling . I trust i the calling . I trust i trust the criminal Justice System. Lets have have a read some have a lets have a read of some of the things that this man actually stickers. Actually had on his stickers. Well, jack guilt. Connor, well, jack white guilt. Connor, you that. Nationalism you might like that. Nationalism should not let read them all should not let me read them all out and then have out and then we can have a debate about them. Nationalism is nurture and labour loves muslim be muslim rape gangs. Gangs will be a minority in our homeland by 2066. Designed to 2066. Diversity designed to fail, built to replace. This is fail, built to replace. This is not a man i would be defending on national on national television. None of those i would not i would not im not i didnt say i was against race, i didnt say i was against race, i didnt i said this is not a man i would defend on national television. I think you picked an awful example to make this point. This is a man who has nazi sympathies, and here you are his free speech. Are defending his free speech. Which of those which were. On which of those which were. Those are wrong. What free speech means. Speech actually means. On, darren, that what come on, darren, that is what free speech nonsense free speech means. Nonsense say youre i know you say youre defending no, is defending nazis now. No, that is how that is how. Thats how that. That is how. Thats youn how that. That is how. Thats your. Your defence your. Thats your defence of free speech. Youre no, not at all. Not with pictures of hitler in the house. What not broken the what but he has not broken the law having picture of law by having a picture of bloody his house. Bloody hitler in his house. Michael gove on his bookshelf had a book on hitler. Do you think gove should in think michael gove should be in thei think think michael gove should be in the i think that think michael gove should be in thei think that in think michael gove should be in the i think that in this think michael gove should be in thei think that in this case, i think that in this case, i trust the criminal Justice System. Dont believe that is free speech authority. Youre not actually giving your own opinion there. Which of those statements were actually objectionable . Please, please tell call the tell me. Should we call the statements we should . Oh, statements what we should . Oh, hang on a minute. We should all we all white guilt. We should all have white guilt. Have white. We should all have white. We should all have white. Why is why i think the so why is why i think the statements in that were objectionable to say no, to say which to say which way, that sinner to say diversity is replacement and basically this basically peddling this Conspiracy Theory about the great is not, great replacement theory is not, you what you what you know, what do you know what the do you know what the great do you know what the great replacement theory was . Not . I just would not defend free speech. Have you read rene camus . Some. Some. Have read some . Have you read some . Have you read some . You read it . Nonsense have you read it . Nonsense have you read it . Nonsense far right thug . What is he a far right thug . What did do broke the law . Did he do that broke the law . He was for inciting he was done for inciting racial hate. He was done for inciting racicalled i. He was done for inciting racicalled him thug. He can called him a thug. He can i can i speak . Darren, this is your story. Darren. He do. He got done for inciting racial hatred. Stickers which able to which you havent been able to prove, actually. Ah. Do you hold racial hatred or interest criminal Justice System. If the criminal justice and if the criminal Justice System found guilty of system found this man guilty of inciting do inciting racial hatred, you do not believe, then i agree with the justice the criminal Justice System. Speech. That you. Thats not what i said. I said i agree with the criminal Justice System. You said. And think you you said. And i think you i agree criminal Justice System. Darren benjamin, why do you think he had a picture of adolf hitler in his house . Because an awful man and because hes an awful man and i find the holocaust all i find the holocaust and all everything the Everything Associated with the nazis to be absolutely abhorrent. But not not illegal. Generous you, thats very generous of you, darren. That darren. Look, the truth is that in legal system, the question in a legal system, the question they will asking is, was they will be asking is, was there intent behind his printing and spreading of this propaganda in sticker form . And when he has a picture framed on his bedroom wall of adolf hitler, then i would say that clearly shows the intent behind his behaviour on. And that is why it must be criminal labour want to actually make it illegal to misgender somebody. Somebody. So if i have a poster in my house that says trans women arent women, are you going to say i have the intent and that ive therefore broken the law . Is that the position that were going to now find . Then printed stickers and you then printed stickers and handed them out around the street , trans women street saying, trans women arent women. Gladly that. Ill i will gladly do that. Ill give straight away. Give you one straight away. Confront trans women try to confront trans women in the streets with those things. Then in the streets with those things. Then say that should. Then i would say that should be evidence do you have be what evidence do you have that fact people on that he was the fact people on the that why do the streets that well, why do you think he was stickering . But the actually, youve the same reason actually, youve spoken for the same spoken a lot for the same reason. Your facts right, reason. Get your facts right, people on the palestine marches reason. Get your facts right, peopreen the palestine marches reason. Get your facts right, peopreen the pathosea marches reason. Get your facts right, peopreen the pathose phraseses have been using those phrases and they put posters and stickers everywhere. They want to their propaganda , to spread their propaganda, their view. Thats why hes doing has an intent to doing it. He has an intent to spread Racial Division and racial hatred. This is a guy with hitler on his wall. And i think it is a diabolical example to pick. Yes, i think actually that there are a lot of people with really abhorrent views that are dare i say, in the labour party, who will be having posted, you demean yourself , posted, you demean yourself, really, you demean yourself when you compare the rest of people. You compare the rest of people. In Keir Starmers labour party , in Keir Starmers labour party, he had a little lapses. Hang on, hang on. Hang on, hang on. Dawn butler, dawn butler said mao did more good than harm. Mao mao did more good than harm. Mao mao killed. They all do it well anyway. They all do it well anyway. That was a different poll. That was a different poll. That was a different poll. Lets respect his right to free speech. Away you go. Ill be. Oh, thank you so much, darren. So African American playwright jeremy o. American playwright jeremy 0. Harris brought his 12th time. Not not emmy nominated play to london for a run on the west end. But he got himself in a bit of hot water this week when he went out on the media round to promote his 12 time emmy nominated play. Lets take a listen. No one is saying that by inviting black audiences here, you uninvited on broadway. You were uninvited on broadway. There were nights where tickets were only sold to people who identified black. Are you who identified as black. Are you going that the west going to do that in the west end . Excited to. End . Im so excited to. You are. Yeah. I mean, yeah, you are. Yeah. I mean, i think that one of the things that have to remember is that we have to remember is that, um, people all have to be radically invited into a space to know that they belong there. And in most of our country, in most places in the west, uh , most places in the west, uh, poor people and, and black people have been told that they do not belong inside of the theatre in america. Jim crow existed to literally tell them that they could not sit in the same theatre as white people. Same theatre as white people. So close. But so far, rachel , so close. But so far, rachel, racial segregation isnt progress. It is madness. I really hate it when these americans come over to britain and bring their Race Relations claptrap over here. Britain is not america. We never had jim not america. We never had jim crow laws in britain , actually. Crow laws in britain, actually. Jeremy. Yes, we might have had a colour bar, which was disgraceful. All but black people and poor people actually were never told that they were not that they did not belong in theatres. So please keep your Race Relations nonsense on the other side of the pond, the British Government should not be giving money to the arts council to Institute Signs that promote this kind of divisiveness, and i think its an absolute disgrace that these black only nights are going ahead. Its not what britain needs. As belinda , do britain needs. As belinda, do you think this is what britain needs . Needs . Oh, please go away. Its almost like whenever america sneezes , you know, england has sneezes, you know, england has to catch its cold. And i just want done with these crazy lunatic racists who are sanctioned by a lot of the liberal progressives here as being somehow virtuous and saint like because theyre speaking for, you know, black and brown people. Theyre insulting and infante missing black and brown people by by saying that they cant , you know, experience cant, you know, experience a white gaze during a play about oppression. Oppression imagine if women started demanding women only theatre theatre nights dunng only theatre theatre nights during plays which happened to cover the oppression of women centuries ago. We would be laughed at. I think its insulting, infantilizing. Its racism. You know, we never had racism. You know, we never had slaves working on english soil. All, you know, very unlike america , where where the claim america, where where the claim is that the slaves did build america and the descendants of slaves are there. Its a very, very different issue here in england. Thats not to say we dont have slavery in the past, but we rid of it. You know, but we got rid of it. You know, the uk should be so proud. They should we should be celebrating the that ended slavery the fact that we ended slavery as british instead as as a british nation, instead of claptrap from of having this claptrap from america. And i dont know why these radio host these radio stations host racists to racists as if theyre trying to be somehow virtuous. Be somehow virtuous. A marketing is this just a Marketing Campaign darren because campaign, Darren Grimes because ultimately, play ultimately, look, this play actually sounds quite good. Its about interracial about trauma, interracial relationships sex, race, power relationships, sex, race, power dynamics. And its got nominated dynamics. And its got nominated for 12 different tonys , i for 12 different tonys, i believe. So this is a very it sounds like a very good play, but actually white people arent banned from buying tickets because you can be black. Identifying and hes actually said that black people can bring white people with them. So its just Just Marketing to make more money than wokeist. Money rather than wokeist. And this is all absolutely. And this is all part of one big massive grift, right . This is how you books, for example, titled whiteness is a or whatever a psychosis or whatever else. This to actually this is an attempt to actually get attention. And its worked. Its worked. Its worked. Were all talking about it. I tweeted about it. Um, and the tweeted about it. Um, and the fact of the matter is that im afraid until we are all start saying, lets reject this nonsense wholesale because i dont think we should have some collective guilt. In fact, i cant think of anything more racist to notion than the idea that we all should have some form of collective guilt for what what what what what am i doing if i want to go see a play thatis doing if i want to go see a play that is oppressing somebody else . I just find the whole idea. Well, one deeply offensive. But to just part of a wider problem thats pretty systemic within the definitely the arts industry. Benjamin , is there any benjamin, is there any argument you can make in jeremys favour . Jeremys favour . Yeah, i think there is, because actually , first of all, because actually, first of all, in this country, this is an often forgotten fact. But more people go to the theatre than go to football matches. We are to football matches. We are a country of lovers and country of arts lovers and thats im really thats something im really proud but theres definitely proud of. But theres definitely the people the case that there are people from people from from minorities, people from working class backgrounds, people minority in people from ethnic minority in particular dont feel that particular that dont feel that the theatre is a place that the arts is a place that is for them. In the same assumptions that you know, a white guy from a private school is going to think. And so you have to ask, how do you address that problem . So they know that these spaces are them . I think a better are for them . I think a better answer is having funding for black only producers and writers to put on plays rather than the audience, but hes absolutely got a point that you need to go out and reach out to those groups and say, this is for you as well. Thats so insulting. So its like saying, oh, the countryside is isnt is racist, isnt it awful . Isnt it terrible . Everyone is free to go to the theatre if they want to, theyre from working to, whether theyre from working class. Working class. What an insult to working class people. An insult. Its that they not an insult. Its that they feel like its not for them. How do you know . This is just an assumption the liberal an assumption of the liberal mind poor working class mind that the poor working class and capable and black people arent capable of no, no no, no. No, no no, no. Condescending and patronising. Its because its because if you into a room full of you go into a room full of people look the same or people that all look the same or posh then you posh old white people, then you will excluded you will feel excluded and you have to actively change those. Benjamin like , excuse me, but benjamin like, excuse me, but i am currently on a panel where no one else looks like me. I do no one else looks like me. I do not feel excluded. I do not feel oppressed. I dont feel like i need a safe space from white people, and i just dont think that what is needed in society is segregate. Often i think we is segregate. Often i think we need spaces that are going to be encouraging social integration, cultural integration instead of promoting parallel societies. Promoting parallel societies. Connon promoting parallel societies. Connor, you must agree with that, surely . Oh yeah, definitely. When you brought up the point about historical anachronism in the 40s, the uk government had to fund films american to fund films for american gis to understand that we dont segregate our pubs over here. When the americans were stationed over here, britain has never been segregated like america. Your point, america. But to your point, darren, a grift. Its darren, yes, it is a grift. Its absolutely a grift by the grievance complex grievance Industrial Complex that myth that wants to peril a false myth about so they can line about racism so they can line their with as ben their pockets with money, as ben has endorsed the aggregate has just endorsed the aggregate effect. Really effect. That was really sinister. No matter effect. That was really sinister. Or no matter effect. That was really sinister. Or not no matter effect. That was really sinister. Or not he |o matter effect. That was really sinister. Or not he meanser effect. That was really sinister. Or not he means it whether or not he means it sincerely or just to pack out the from controversy, it the theatre from controversy, it heightens tension of heightens the tension of anti white racism and whether or not it just to line his not he means it just to line his own pockets. As if he own pockets. He speaks as if he has vehement hatred white has a vehement hatred of white people, being endorsed people, which is being endorsed by the institutions. By all the institutions. And i just like you, we dont just think, like you, we dont need segregation. Id need racial segregation. Id rather racial rather diffuse the racial tensions. Very much. Rather diffuse the racial ten and ;. Very much. Rather diffuse the racial ten and i very much. Rather diffuse the racial ten and i mean, very much. Rather diffuse the racial ten and i mean, look,ery much. Rather diffuse the racial ten and i mean, look, would ch. Rather diffuse the racial ten and i mean, look, would this and i mean, look, would this actually put you off going to see the play . I dont want to see the play . I dont want to see it anyway. I wouldnt want to see yeah, i wouldnt want to see it if its being promoted. There go. It if its being promoted. This there go. It if its being promoted. This blacks go. It if its being promoted. This black story|o. It if its being promoted. This black story written by a black person, and you all go, oh, i dont want to see it anyway because he seems insane. That a story about the that tells a story about the racism this country. That tells a story about the raciim this country. That tells a story about the raciim sayingcountry. That tells a story about the raciim saying the 1try. That tells a story about the raciim saying the exactly what im saying the exactly what he overcome. He is trying to overcome. The the play is being the way the play is being sold, fever the passion sold, the fever and the passion and the sort of frothing at the mouth he had about saying, oh, im excited about having black. Oh, oh my god, there you go. Oh, oh my god, there you go. Why would he want to be in a room with you . But why . Saying anyone who im saying anyone who preaches segregation and racism will wanting will put me off wanting to go and something. Will put me off wanting to go ancindeed. Nething. Will put me off wanting to go ancindeed. Right,g. Will put me off wanting to go ancindeed. Right, okay. Moving indeed. Right, okay. Moving on. Still to come. Tonight connor be discussing connor is going to be discussing the Prime Ministers speech and asking far right asking where the far right threat is, and Benjamin Butterworth arguing that butterworth will be arguing that baby be forced to baby boomers should be forced to hand save hand their assets down to save millennials. Hard up. Millennials. Hes hard up. Thats what is. Millennials. Hes hard up. Thats what is. But up millennials. Hes hard up. Thats what is. But up next, thats what it is. But up next, beunda thats what it is. But up next, belinda de lucy going to be belinda de lucy is going to be discussing the bbcs latest trans row, in which presenter trans row, in which a presenter has found guilty of has been found guilty of breaking trans breaking rules by calling trans women males Goodness Gracious me, you. With the saturday five live on gb news. News. Welcome back to the saturday five. As always, cheers very much for your company and for your emails. Much for your company and for your emails. Now wallys much for your company and for your emails. Now wallys written your emails. Now wallys written in wally where are you . And he says de man izing someone for a poster will only encourage more posters or indeed stickers. And annabelle says belinda is so correct. Well just leave it. Correct. Well just leave it. There shall be glenda. No, she says, with the double standards between men and women at the moment, thank you for speaking up protecting us women. Up and for protecting us women. Karen theatres are karen says theatres are a British Culture. This is nothing to do with Race Relations and more to do with British Culture and of benjamin did start his remarks with that, but then he veered somewhat off track. But now time for our next now its time for our next debate. Up next, it is indeed beunda debate. Up next, it is indeed belinda deluise. Bbc likes to sell itself the bbc likes to sell itself as the beacon of truth telling and the slayer of fake news, and yet sacrificing truth on the altar of their woke agenda has become the norm. Having rejected complaints over their false reporting that a double rapist was a woman, this week , the bbc was a woman, this week, the bbc upheld a complaint against one of its journalists, justin webb, for saying trans women were male, an actual fact. Oh, the male, an actual fact. Oh, the heresy or the blasphemy . The heresy or the blasphemy . The facts are a hate crime. Now burn the witches. This is orwellian. Doublethink rules do not question the party. I mean, is it bbc policy now to shield the liars and punish the Truth Tellers . The licence fee payers deserve to know, thats for sure. And when violent criminals and rapists want us to submit to their desire to be called women or she, the bbc parrots this lie a huge insult to the victims who have the right to have crimes committed against them, recorded and reported correctly. But it and reported correctly. But it appears the bbcs commitment to fact is conditional. More worryingly, if the bbc can spread disinformation on this fundamental issue and reprimand those who tell the truth, why should we trust their coverage on anything . Now, i know that on anything . Now, i know that the topic that mr webb was talking about at the time , he talking about at the time, he said, trans women are male, happened to be about a chess game and discussing womens categories. But it is a content categories. But it is a content lie that gets peddled, not just in the bbc but in other areas as well, that trans women are female and it does need to be an informative broadcasting station and telling the viewers you know, and reminding them that trans women are male when it comes to talking about sports categories and crimes and theyre failing to do that, a third of brits are still unsure what trans woman even means because expanding and because it keeps expanding and evolving day. What are evolving every day. What are your on that . Well, your thoughts on that . Well, look, i your belief, your look, i think your belief, your philosophically held belief that actually biological sex exists. So actually a scientifically held belief as well, that actually trans women are men. Thats a protected in the equality act. So i dont understand how they can uphold this complaint. And frankly , this complaint. And frankly, these complaints tend to be really quite malicious. And it tends to be from activist groups, dare i say , i can think groups, dare i say, i can think of one big charity that gets quite a lot of public money and these complaints are made vexatious. So they are to vexatious. So they are to actually try and shut down speech and debate in this issue and censor well, primarily women actually. But you know, good for webb because hes been in the bbc behemoth for such a long time that im surprised he said it, to be honest, belinda, him and benjamin tell me, do you think it is right that that rapists get their desire to be called women on tv stations in the courts when their victims have suffered the most horrendous male crimes committed against them . Do they not deserve a right to have the truth be told about whos committed the crime . Whos committed the crime . You know, if you were talking about an issue of black people and race and you decided to peg how should be how all black people should be treated of a rapist or a murderer who was black, then people recognise that as people would recognise that as racist. Is deeply offensive racist. It is deeply offensive to talk about the way that any trans person should be referred to in society based on someone among them that has committed a heinous crime. No, but someone who has been raped. Those people in news articles, someone who people are black. All trans women are men. No. All trans women are men. No. All trans women are men. No. That is i think that should be a crime. Thats quite frankly, because that is a hate crime that undermines their identity they identity misgendering way. They should lead their should be able to lead their lives now , the question of rape lives now, the question of rape only physical male can commit rape under under our law. So are you saying so men and so and so clearly there is a physicality element. Let me tell you, i dont but let me tell you, i dont give a damn about someone about the i get it. No, dont the heinous i get it. No, dont you dare put words my mouth, you dare put words in my mouth, belinda. Dont care about belinda. I dont care about someone heinous that commits someone so heinous that commits a that. You know i a crime like that. You know i dont night dont lie awake at night worrying their references. Worrying about their references. But that normal trans but i do think that normal trans people this country to people in this country trying to go about their lives, trying to play go about their lives, trying to play game, for goodness play a chess game, for goodness sake, having their identity undermined and undermined is hateful and unnecessary. Think britain undermined is hateful and urbetter;ary. Think britain undermined is hateful and urbetter than think britain undermined is hateful and ur better than that. Think britain undermined is hateful and urbetter than that. S01k britain undermined is hateful and urbetter than that. So youreain is better than that. So youre saying truth is a hate crime . Truth is a hate do you think truth is a hate crime, albie . No, but the truth is, does chess need to be divided into gender categories . I dont gender categories . No, i dont think it does. Chess is a cognitive competition. I dont think there is a difference in our cognitive function when it comes to playing game of comes to playing a game of chess. That and chess. Belinda, that you and i would need separated in a would need to be separated in a game chess. I think thats game of chess. I think thats actually quite regressive. At the elite level, there are at the elite level, there are at the level. The elite level. No, no, the actual men no, no, no, the actual men are women for me. Are brighter than women for me. No, terms of spatial no, no, in terms of spatial reasoning in terms of how reasoning and in terms of how many men win chess games many men win more chess games versus of the elite versus how many of the elite women on your side . Belinda . Belinda . Oh, shut up. One second, one second, one second. If you want. Poundshop peterson over poundshop Jordan Peterson over here. If you want women have here. If you want women to have a tournament, then there a chess tournament, then there are be fewer that are going to be fewer women that are going to be fewer women that are be able to compete are going to be able to compete at level with men, at the elite level with men, because we do mix because when we do mix categories, fewer women get to the top. So i like that youre not gender, but not assuming my gender, but beunda not assuming my gender, but belinda here. Belinda is the woman on here. Well, no. The point is, you actually need segregation in chess. With the chess. So the point with the chess. So the point with the chess is chess game, even though this is a bit of a diversion, is a little bit of a diversion, is that theres a huge amount of difference between the money men get chess compared to women. Difference between the money men getit chess compared to women. Difference between the money men getit che can ompared to women. Difference between the money men getit che can womeni to women. Difference between the money men getit che can women thenomen. So it also can women then identify men and more identify as men and get more money. You it works the money. You know, it works the other way round as well. On the transport saying we transport all im saying is we are supporting liars by by funding the licence fee. Nasty that nasty. That is nasty. Arent anything you that is nasty. Toent anything you that is nasty. To have anything you that is nasty. To have their anything you that is nasty. To have their anyth identityu but to have their basic identity be respected. But to have their basic identity be in pected. But to have their basic identity be in particular for my whole in particular for my whole monologue violent monologue was about violent criminals stop criminals and rapists. Stop using criminals and rapists. Stop usi|this the example that you this the example that you were about . Were talking about . Again and again, yeah, but again and again, the bbc constantly refers to rapists as she or women, and i think that is utterly abhorrent, especially to the victims. Yeah, right. Especially to the victims. Yeah, right. Still ahead, yeah, right. Still ahead, britains champion of walk, Benjamin Butterworth, will be arguing baby should arguing that baby boomers should be forced to hand assets be forced to hand their assets down to save millennials like him. Connor tomlinson will be him. Connor tomlinson will be addressing Prime Minister rishi sunak speech and asking where the far right threat is in this country. Youre with the saturday five live on. Gb news. Welcome back to the saturday five. As always, thank you very much for your emails and indeed your company. Much for your emails and indeed your company. Alistair has your company. Alistair has written in and alistair has written in and alistair has written trans and written about trans people and he trans people may think he says trans people may think theyve changed their gender, but their dna, chromosomes but their dna, their chromosomes , structure and , their skeletal structure and their voice will all tell the truth. Um, and elizabeth has truth. Um, and elizabeth has written in and elizabeth says, what keeps the working class in ethnic minority people out of theatres is the price of the ticket. Simple as that. Well, if benjamin had his way, hed subsidise everything as he thinks money grows on trees. But thinks money grows on trees. But now its time for our next debate. Up next, it is connor, and connor is going to tell us about, oh, last night, rishi sunak recited the diversity is our strength platitude on the steps of io our strength platitude on the steps of 10 downing street for the umpteenth time. Very dull, if not the false equivalency drawn between islamic extremists who are calling for intifada every weekend and wednesday and westminster and phantom far westminster and the phantom far right. Who, who and where are right. Who, who and where are the far right . 90 of those on mi5s terror watch list are islamic extremists. Surely sunak cant be referring to the schizophrenic neo nazi who killed jo cox. Tragically, eight years because there arent years ago, because there arent marches in his honour, thankfully, any copycats , thankfully, nor any copycats, since sunak is singling since perhaps sunak is singling out lee anderson, excommunicated from conservative party for from the conservative party for saying and sadiq khan saying starmer and sadiq khan are, controlled by are, quote, controlled by islamists. Everyone rushed islamists. Everyone rushed to condemn him. But lee anderson condemn him. But lee anderson was sadiq khan has a was right. Sadiq khan has a history of defending and affiliating islamists, affiliating with islamists, including only man to be including the only man to be convicted for 9 11 and speaking alongside leaders of proscribed terrorist groups, whom terrorist groups, one of whom later over later trained the seven over seven bomber. Former brother seven bomber. His former brother in sadiq claims he in law, who sadiq khan claims he hasnt had anything to do with more decade, issued more than a decade, issued a 1998 calling for the full 1998 fatwa calling for the full scale war of jihad against britain the us. In my humble britain and the us. In my humble opinion, sadiq khan has given terror apologists declare terror apologists who declare their annexe england their intent to annexe england to caliphate. Carte to a global caliphate. Carte blanche in london. And yet lee anderson is the one punished because these days far right seems to mean noticing the consequences of government policy. Government policy. Policy. Yes government policy. The immigration surge to britain was not, as Fraser Nelson wrote yesterday, accident. No force yesterday, an accident. No force of nature blew a Million People a year to our shores. I say it was a Political Choice by mps. The treasury , the Civil Service the treasury, the Civil Service and international bodies. They and international bodies. They are and they are responsible and they are sunak gall to gaslight sunak has the gall to gaslight us the scale of the us about the scale of the problem. I wont mincing problem. I wont be mincing words. There no far right words. There is no far right threat comparable to of threat comparable to that of islamic extremism. Punish the islamic extremism. So punish the islamists either with incarceration or deportation. Do not punish lee anderson and those like him for telling the truth. What a load of rubbish, connon what . What a load of rubbish i what . What a load of rubbish rishi sunak rightly , in my rishi sunak rightly, in my opinion, spoke about the threat of extremism on all sides. Hes not far left. He spoke. He spoke not far left. He spoke. He spoke about george galloway, who was a far left extremist. He spoke about nick griffin, who was the leader of the bnp. He spoke about islamist extremists. He spoke about far right extremists. There have been far right extremist attacks in britain within the last year. Just earlier on this week, we saw in egypt in the 21st of february, we saw a pigs head thrown with a brick through a muslim families window in blackburn in knowsley in february 2022. We saw full scale riots outside a Migrant Hotel and people working at the hotel helping the migrants were also attacked along with the migrants themselves. We also saw we also saw a Migrant Centre in kent firebombed by a far right extremist do you not sit here and tell me that far right and that far right extremism isnt a threat to people in britain . Far right. It is defined far right. Would agree . Define far would you agree . Define far right. Define right. Would you agree . Define far someone who far right. Well, someone who answer someone who answer the question. Someone who defined someone defined far right. Someone who is overtly anti immigrant, someone who is racist, nationalistic, someone like nick griffin. Someone like someone like the people who took part in these far right attacks, which i hope you would condemn. Dont sit here and tell me, dont sit here and tell me that far right extremism isnt a threat. It was right that rishi sunak brought it up. Number one, islamism is a bigger threat. But far right extremism is still a threat. One, you dare number one, dont you dare insinuate i would endorse insinuate that i would endorse criminal activity. You know better to do that. Number better than to do that. Number two. So why did you pretend that there right extremist there was no far right extremist threat me explain. The threat that. Let me explain. The point is, the established trots out right. If they out the far right. If they meant neo nazi, would it. And neo nazi, they would say it. And those sound like those people sound like neo nazis. All the neo nazis. Far right. All the press, all the establishment have people javier have called people like Javier Milei Milei is milei far right. Javier milei is an capitalist and jew. An anarcho capitalist and a jew. Hang hang no, its not hang on, hang on. No, its not relevant. Its not relevant. They cant define far right im talking they use use they cant define far right im taliright. They use use they cant define far right im taliright. Hanghey use use they cant define far right im taliright. Hang on, use use they cant define far right im taliright. Hang on, hang use they cant define far right im taliright. Hang on, hang on. Use they cant define far right im taliright. Hang on, hang on. The far right. Hang on, hang on. The establishment, establishment establishment, the establishment defines not defines far right. Im not talking im saying defines far right. Im not talkpeople im saying defines far right. Im not talkpeople that im saying defines far right. Im not talkpeople that like m saying defines far right. Im not talk people that like to saying defines far right. Im not talkpeople that like to sayng defines far right. Im not talk people that like to say far the people that like to say far right is this massive, nebulous problem. We do not have far right people marching through the streets chanting for intifada every single weekend. We do not have this at mass scale. have scale. Have bombing on we do have bombing on belinda,. Belinda, belinda. Connors got point i mean, connors got a point in the of i dont see in the sense of i dont see 100,000 skinheads on the street with, know, tattoos or with, you know, tattoos or whatever, whatever the stereotypical caricature is of a far right person calling for jihad and intifada or whatever. The far right alternative is for those people. I dont see that. So maybe connors got a point. I think two things can be right at the same time. I think you can say yes, there are far right threats. Im sure m15 know about there neo nazis about them. There are neo nazis in this country. Thank god. Theres just a very small smattering of them. Um, and islamist, uh , intimidation islamist, uh, intimidation threats and actual violence is so much bigger. It is absolute shaping policy. It is absolute changing the way we live. Its forcing mps to resign. Its forcing mps to resign. Its forcing teachers into hiding, forcing teachers into hiding, forcing a young autistic boy to have to apologise in front of muslim clerics because the difference is with the islamist threat is it is ringfenced by privilege and it is a privilege that has been given to them by the lib left, who have said any criticism of islamism, which is different , of course, from different, of course, from ordinary , you know, law abiding ordinary, you know, law abiding muslim arms. Its a punishing political ideology. They have political ideology. They have conflated it with muslims. So everyones terrified of saying anything about it. And thats what the far right dont enjoy. That privilege , nor should they. That privilege, nor should they. And im glad they dont. But the fact of the matter is, they get special treatment in this country by our authorities. They either eye, they either turn a blind eye, they dont mention it. Theyll say when theres an islamist attack, theyll mention other theyll mention anything other than refugee than whether theyre a refugee or whether they are islamists. Theyll say, oh, you know, mental disorder, lone wolf. Whereas far right whereas if it was a far right attack, can bet spread attack, you can bet spread across page would a across every page would be a dissection the white male dissection of the white male character in his his political tendencies. Its huge double standards , which is putting us standards, which is putting us more threat and benjamin, did more at threat and benjamin, did you agree with connors sentiment on lee anderson being correct sentiment on lee anderson being cor|no, think its deeply no, i think its deeply offensive. You that offensive. If you said that a jewish mayor of london was being controlled in the same way people would automatically recognise the anti semitism. Recognise the anti semitism. No, no, its not about the group. Are had you had your speech . Im speaking now, connor. The fact sadiq khan is, on fact is that sadiq khan is, on the one hand, accused of being the one hand, accused of being the wokeist politician in britain and the next moment accused of being in bed with islamic extremists who would behead gay people. And that. Oh, behead gay people. And that. Oh, what utter nonsense. Well, the fact is, i think there is a deep racism in the way sadiq khan is treated and that hes treated as he cant win. That is why we know as a fact he has more threats against his life than any other politician, which is why he has such ridiculous security. Because that, security. Because of that, its because people hate him, because hes a and those people hes a muslim and those people are the far right. Are on the far right. So security detail. Yeah. So security detail. Yeah. Why do other why do why do three other mps, need security mps, female mps need security details . That whose details . Why is that. Whose is it. No no youre trying it. No no no no no youre trying to do is create a competition between these two threats. Both exist, but youre trying to downplay the far right. If there hundreds of there isnt hundreds of thousands of people organised with views, then with far right views, then explain phenomena tommy robinson. There arent hundreds of thousands people with far thousands of people with far right they there right views. They are not. There are on on the terror watch list. There are not hundreds of thousands of people. Have to make . Of course, there are far more people with these views than would up on a terror watch. Would crop up on a terror watch. Terror watch list, on the terror watch list, there are 43,000 people for there are 43,000 people down for islamic extremism, that islamic extremism, right . That doesnt mean hundreds of thousands. We know the 10 arent all far right. Some arent even all far right. Some of if you want of them are. Ira, if you want the numbers, wrong. The numbers, youre wrong. And the numbers, youre wrong. And the watch as well. The prevent watch list as well. I about the i wasnt talking about the numbers the prevent. Numbers on the prevent. I was talking about the kind of support robinson i was talking about the kind of the support robinson i was talking about the kind of the terror support robinson i was talking about the kind of the terror watch iort robinson i was talking about the kind of the terror watch list robinson i was talking about the kind of the terror watch list t0 inson on the terror watch list to prevent deradicalisation, prevent for deradicalisation, the said that the prevent watch list said that Douglas Murray, j. R. R. Tolkien and George Orwell are far right texts. they cannot define it accurately. You agree with that . That Douglas Murray and those other far right . I dont know the others, but look, i well, what do you do you think murray far think Douglas Murray is far right . Went to see douglas right . No, i went to see Douglas Murray at a synagogue a couple of weekends ago to talk about murray at a synagogue a couple of vissueids ago to talk about murray at a synagogue a couple of vissue of ago to talk about murray at a synagogue a couple of vissue of israel, talk about murray at a synagogue a couple of vissue of israel, butk about murray at a synagogue a couple of vissue of israel, but youre the issue of israel, but youre trying downplay the very trying to downplay the very serious im sorry, serious problem, and im sorry, but other week. Only but only the other week. Only the a far a white the other week, a far a white extremist was sentenced for threatening to kill 50 mps. Only a ago, you had another a few years ago, you had another Example Group of example of proscribed group of far trying far right racists trying to kill a female labour mp, jo cox, as you mentioned, was killed by someone on the far right. I think your goal is to downplay that. I say theyre both a serious threat. Theyre different threats. But but you cant pretend no is saying cant pretend no one is saying they shouldnt prison. They shouldnt be in prison. Is saying that. But no one is saying that. But its the likes of its because of the likes of you. Youve totally gutted the time for far right . So people like who for like me who just voted for brexit are pretending it doesnt exist. Course exist. Like nana. Of course it does. But not. Its does. But its not. Its ridiculous. Comparable. Right, now. Well all right, wrap up now. Well wrap up now. Still ahead though, benjamin going Benjamin Butterworths going to argue should argue that baby boomers should be hand their be forced to hand down their assets save. Millennials assets to save. Millennials should they . Know youre should they . Let me know youre with the saturday live on gb news. Welcome back to the saturday five. Cheers very much for getting in touch. Bettys written in and betty says connor , what a speech. Excellent and so right. Literally. And uh. So right. Literally. And uh. Yeah the rest of it. Ian says on one of our earlier topics , i one of our earlier topics, i inherited a stamp collection from my late father, included were stamps from the nazi era. Were stamps from the nazi era. How long will i be banged up for . While benjamin has just called the police. So im afraid. Im the police. So im afraid. Im afraid. Ian, your time is numbered now. Its five for our final debate. Up next, it is final debate. Up next, it is benjamin. Benjamin what have you got for us . Right. Ive got an idea. I think that all 30 year olds should be given £10,000 from the banks of baby boomers. Weve got a situation in this country now where millennials are the first generation in modern times, expecting to be poorer than their parents. We as 30 year olds like me, are half as likely to own a house as people my age. 30 years ago. In fact, the cost of a home in britain compared to average incomes has as big a gap today as it did wait for it in the 18 six 80s. It is a dickensian situation, so a tory peer has come up with a suggestion, david willetts, that rather than waiting for baby boomers to die and pass on their wealth, when millennials like me are 50, 60, maybe 70, if youre lucky that we shouldnt wait for it, we should get them to give £10,000 to every 30 year old in the country today. Now, i think thatis the country today. Now, i think that is a fantastic idea because it would stimulate Economic Growth and get us on the housing ladden growth and get us on the housing ladder. So i say cough up, granny, its time for the young to have the chances that you had. Now belinda cant believe what you say. Youre a homeowner , youve got stability. What do , youve got stability. What do you think to the idea . I think youre relentless crusade against the elderly. Benjamin it reveals something a little bit sinister inside. What happened with elderly people and old people . I mean, my god, this is a generation thats good. Um, this is the generation who didnt have it so easy when they were born. They were put on rations after the war. Their parents, either one or both , may parents, either one or both, may well have suffered trauma and therefore , you know, did not therefore, you know, did not have the sort of snugly cuddly, bubbly parenting that all you lot, you know, get in your generation. But they but they generation. But they but they interest rates, they to interest rates, they had to toughen themselves. They toughen up by themselves. They were they didnt were not entitled. They didnt think they say they they think that. They say they they deserved this and they deserved. They worked they had paper they worked hard. They had paper rounds. They worked every hour. They and saved they they had and they saved up. Now, sorry the housing now, im sorry about the housing crisis for generation there. You because youre are you because youre profiting from it . Im profiting from it. Dont be ridiculous. Im saying when you house. Be ridiculous. Im saying when youwhat . House. Be ridiculous. Im saying when youwhat . Guessing when you what . Im guessing when you started to have property started to have a First Property that or maybe and that you owned, or maybe you and your partner owned it your husband or partner owned it would have been, what, the 2000 . Maybe earlier. Right. Its maybe earlier. Right. And its three house prices three times the house prices now compared to that period. Is case. Benjamin this is the case. Benjamin incomes gone that fast to incomes gone up that fast to penalise and punish the elderly when they worked all their when they have worked all their lives put into the system. So lives to put into the system. So its fault. Whingy whiny. Its your fault. Whingy whiny. Were going to be envious. Were being punished by no, were being punished by the politics. So were being punished because in west is i am because in the west is i am actually im about to tell actually and im about to tell you about the change want to you about the change i want to see in the world. Are you good . Its not whining about im stop whining about im gonna stop whining about im gonna stop whining it. Whining about it. Are being taken but we are being taken advantage at the moment to advantage of at the moment to profit, to help the old. Most of taxpayers money spent two taxpayers money is spent in two departments through the departments the nhs, through the Health Department and the department for work and pensions. Those departments points disproportionately serve the older population and ive got no issue with that. But lets not pretend. Lets not pretend that it is not young working people that is paying for the Public Services for old people. So actually we are having it hard. And i just look at the future and we see a future of perpetually higher taxes to pay for this increasing ageing population, a shrinking labour force. And youre here saying change how you vote. Young voting for the young stop voting for mass parties. The Mass Immigration parties. The young Mass Immigration parties. The young i stop voting for parties just just to point out build houses. Immigrants actually pay taxes. Pensioners dont. Um, you cannot deny the massive relation. Im sorry to millions and millions coming here when were only producing 2 to 300,000 houses a year this. Youre delusional. Your generation. Generation. Which generations brought those policies for fiscal studies, has said that what you just said is a complete a nonsense because the migrants come. W. W is, can i just point the fact is, can i just point out to anyone that thinks its crazy that a baby boomer should pass ten grand to a year old . Pass ten grand to a 30 year old . Is what we do to them in that is what we do to them in our taxes all the time. Okay . And that storing up danger and that is storing up danger for economy because youre for our economy because youre going of going to have a generation of people cant get basic people that cant get basic financial and financial stability. And that means things i care means two things that i care about. You cant have about. It means you cant have kids because you dont have the money to do it, and it means youre not to take risks youre not going to take risks to businesses because you to build businesses because you dont the money do it. Dont have the money to do it. Thats the fault of the thats not the fault of the elderly. F leave him alone. Leave him alone. Alone transfers of cash leave him alone. Alonegenerationsf cash leave him alone. Alonegenerations are sh leave him alone. Alonegenerations are higher between generations are higher than been. Than theyve ever been. Thats because older and thats because older people looking after younger people are looking after younger generations. People are looking after younger generwere child to doing were doing child care to call for. Youre the youngest on the panel youre the youngest on the panel. What do make it . Panel. What do you make of it . Ideas just i think your ideas just randomly £10,000, randomly redistribute £10,000, not but the tory not just your idea, but the tory peers to younger people is not gonna stimulate Economic Growth. Its going a massive its going to cause a massive spike of spike in also the cost of deposits. I think thats mad. Deposits. So i think thats mad. But before i have a heart attack, got to agree with attack, ive got to agree with you the idea that the boomers and i look, i my and i look, i love my grandparents, my grandparents, but something my granddads always told me, and he in poverty in the he grew up in poverty in the east end, sharing bed with his east end, sharing a bed with his brother until he with brother until he was 15 with holes in the roof. And he said, we had less than you ever had, but are freer than you will but we are freer than you will ever and the reason the ever be. And the reason is the welfare state mass migration welfare state and mass migration and of dependents and an influx of dependents has increased the tax burden to the point where it has point of where it has confiscated ability have confiscated our ability to have social cant have social mobility. We cant have a house, cant have families. House, we cant have families. And rather than redistribute and so rather than redistribute tax, just lower migration, i agree there. Agree with you there. Saying do not direct im just saying do not direct that anger constantly the that anger constantly at the elderly whove in their elderly whove put in their whole through the whole lives through the tax system deserve system and dont deserve your angst. Go for the politicians. Do realise the you do realise that the boomer generation need to lock into your views on your extremist views. Belinda and you do realise belinda and darren, of the darren, defenders of the boomers, generation, boomers, the boomer generation, by the time die, have boomers, the boomer generation, by 1morene die, have boomers, the boomer generation, by 1morene of die, have boomers, the boomer generation, by 1morene of the a, have boomers, the boomer generation, by 1morene of the state have boomers, the boomer generation, by 1morene of the state than got more out of the state than they put in by a long way. By they put in by a long way. By the tune of about 300,000 also sacrificed. They had more jobs, they had paper they worked paper rounds, they worked and they every sent they worked every hour god sent them, a job, felt entitled to. Lots of people have jobs. Lots of people have jobs. But this is the problem. The social contract has been broken. You a generation people you have a generation of people that ridiculous that work hard. Its ridiculous to that the average 20 to suggest that the average 20 something doesnt actually something doesnt work, actually work. Youre work. Well now, now, now youre revealing your true colours. You actually have a hatred young actually have a hatred of young people these people who are facing these problems. Ive got children who wont be able to buy their houses, going to houses, and im not going to tell them to demonise the elderly and punish them for it. Ill say make your own no, ill say make your own life, make own changes, and life, make your own changes, and be for your own be responsible for your own actions change. Actions and be the change. Thats why. Actions and be the change. Thathatsl. Young people hate thats why young people hate their they their parents because they havent their parents because they haverto compare. We used to want to compare. We used to before the boomers. I dont want to you Carol Vorderman to call you Carol Vorderman because appreciate because you wont appreciate it. In the math, the but how in the math, the biggest in the math biggest insult. How in the math does year does someone on 30 grand a year buy star for you guys buy a £450,000 star for you guys to work out and blame the government for . Old people government for . Leave old people alone voted the government . Alone who voted the government . Say did. I was going to say you did. You northeast. You moved to the northeast. Older you to my older people. Thank you to my co host but of co host tonight. But most of all, you wonderful viewers at home, right home, jackie has the right idea. She millennials are she says. If millennials are all like butterworth, who like Benjamin Butterworth, who wants me. Wants to help them . Not me. Well, we now. Next up, well, there we are now. Next up, its brilliantly old curse its the brilliantly old curse with the saturday night showdown. 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For this evening time we do have outbreaks showery do have outbreaks of showery rain, sleet hill snow rain, sleet and some hill snow across Northern England spreading into scotland. Parts of ireland and some of Northern Ireland and some western fringes of wales too. Elsewhere, well see some clear spells as temperatures drop spells and as temperatures drop overnight, see some mist overnight, well see some mist and fog patches forming some icy stretches to temperatures in the countryside minus two to minus five celsius. So it could be some tricky travelling conditions across central southern parts of england. First thing patches. But thing dense fog patches. But they slowly lift and break and then a bright and then for most its a bright and cheery day. Plenty of sunny spells , a scattering of showers spells, a scattering of showers across western parts of the uk, and this weather front close to the could give some patchy the east could give some patchy rain coast. Rain. Along the east coast. Temperatures up a little bit compared to saturday, a bit more brightness around it will just feel little less cold. And feel a little less cold. And then into monday, this weather system starts into system starts to move into western areas, bringing some outbreaks heavy rain and outbreaks of heavy rain and brisk winds too. Elsewhere a cold, frosty start, but then plenty of sunshine across the north and east through the day and temperatures a little higher once it remains mixed. Once more. It remains mixed. Tuesday and towards the middle of but temperatures of the week, but temperatures a little average. See you little above average. See you soon looks like things are heating up. Heating up. Boxt boilers sponsors of weather on gb news is i coming up on this saturday night showdown, rich rishi sunak wants to stop extremism. But if wants to stop extremism. But if he uses the same methods he used to stop the boats extremism is going to go through the roof. 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