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Chief John Sergeant and apprentice finalist Joanna Jarjue. Oh , whats all this about . Oh, whats all this about . Get ready britain here we go. Keir starmers Worst Nightmare. Next good evening. These are your top stories from the gb newsroom. The Prime Minister says democracy is being targeted by extremists. Addressing the nafion by extremists. Addressing the nation outside downing street this evening, he warned about the Current Situation in britain in the aftermath of the october 7th attacks by hamas against israel. He vowed to back Police Taking action against problem protests. And he also said University Teams must do more to crack down on extremism on campuses. In crack down on extremism on campuses. In a crack down on extremism on campuses. In a statement, the campuses. In a statement, the labour leader has backed the Prime Ministers message calling for unity in the country. Rishi sunak signalled the government will unveil what he called a robust framework for dealing with the growing problem. With the growing problem. Want us to doubt ourselves , want us to doubt ourselves, to doubt each other, to doubt our countrys history and achievements . They want us to achievements . They want us to accept a moral equivalence between britain and some of the most despicable regimes in the world. Let us prove these extremists wrong and show them that even when we disagree , we that even when we disagree, we will never be disunited from our common values of decency , kc and common values of decency, kc and respect whilst addressing the nation, rishi sunak said the rochdale by election result was beyond alarming. Thats after it was won by George Galloway, the uks leading Jewish Organisation has described the Workers Party leader as a conspiracy theorist who brings division and hate to every place hes ever stood for parliament. During his career, galloway has also presented programmes for both the russian and Iranian State broadcasters. And Iranian State broadcasters. Labour leader sir keir starmer says hell stoke fear and division. An investigation has been launched this evening after three people were injured in south london following reports of a shooting at around 5 00 this afternoon. Police said they were chasing a moped that failed to stop for them when a shotgun was fired from it at clapham common. Police say two people sustained pellet injuries. A third was injured by the moped itself. The suspects fled the scene. Emergency crews say they scene. Emergency crews say they treated three people at the scene and took two to hospital. None of the injuries are thought to be life threatening. Well bnng to be life threatening. Well bring on as we get bring you more on this as we get it. And 15 vehicles have been it. And 15 vehicles have been involved in a car crash on the m23 , causing Sussex Police to m23, causing Sussex Police to close the motorway in both directions between junctions ten and 11. Emergency services were called around 530. This afternoon. Crews are treating multiple casualties. Well update you on that story as we get it as well. And the cost of the governments rwanda scheme could sought a half £1 billion. Thats on top of hundreds of thousands more for each migrant sent to the east african nation. An investigation by the public spending watchdog found. The millions additional spending millions in additional spending includes £11,000 for each migrants plane ticket. There migrants plane ticket. There will also be an extra £20,000 paid to rwanda for every Asylum Seeker whos relocated with more than £150,000 per person to cover ongoing costs. For the cover ongoing costs. For the latest stories, you can sign up to gb news alerts by scanning the qr code on your screen. Or you can go to gb news complex. You can go to gb news complex. Welcome along now, massive speech on the steps of downing street earlier from rishi sunak. Street earlier from rishi sunak. But lets put it into a bit of context, shall we . Sir keir starmer has lost the feminist vote to appease the trans community. He lost the working class brexiteers to appease remainers. He lost a lot of normal people when he took money from climate lunatics. He lost the jewish vote to appease vast swathes of the Muslim Community, and now hes lost them. Whos he and now hes lost them. Whos he got really . Wheres his solid got really . Wheres his solid base . Who are they . Keir starmers Worst Nightmare is about to walk back into parliament. Keir starmer , this parliament. Keir starmer, this is for gaza. Labour have been is for gaza. Labour have been absolutely silent on galloway andifs absolutely silent on galloway and its very , very telling and its very, very telling isnt it . Compare that to what sunak had to say today and it is beyond alarming. Beyond alarming. At last night, the rochdale by election returned a candidate who dismisses the horror of what happened on october the 7th, who glorifies hezbollah and is endorsed by nick griffin , the endorsed by nick griffin, the racist former leader of the bnp. Racist former leader of the bnp. Keir starmer simply could not have made the full speech that rishi sunak made today. He couldnt say this either. You cannot call for violent jihad. There is no context in which it can be acceptable to beam anti semitic tropes onto big ben. In the middle of a vote on israel, gaza and there can be no cause that you can use to justify the support of a proscribed terrorist group like hamas. Hamas. And he certainly couldnt say this this week. Ive met with Senior Police officers and made clear it is the publics expectation that they will not merely manage these protests, but police them. These protests, but police them. And i say this to the police , we and i say this to the police, we will back you when you take action. Calling out George Galloways views, calling out the old from the river to the sea. Stuff calling on the police to ramp it up against protesters and saying hell Deport Anyone who comes here with extreme views. Sir here with extreme views. Sir keir starmer simply could never say that stuff , because he knows say that stuff, because he knows that around 100 of his own mps would disagree with him. And labour has built a voter base of people like that. Therein lies a huge difference between the two major parties and the party leaders. I spoke to sources today involved with the rochdale by election. Now they allege that local drug dealers and gangsters were intimidating voters. The anti white and anti semitic racism was rife that businesses were threatened with being firebombed if they showed support for a particular candidate , that someone tried to candidate, that someone tried to break into the home of the relatives of one of the candidates eats their children had to be evacuated. They were threatening phone calls from mysterious foreign phone numbers and of course, it doesnt take a genius to work out whats gone on with the postal vote, does it . On a turnout of around 39, supposedly 75 of those votes were postal votes , 9000 more were postal votes, 9000 more postal votes. In the 2019 postal votes. In the 2019 general election. Come on, we know whats going on here. Dont we . I mean, the irony overload , we . I mean, the irony overload, i think, is this tweet from sir keir starmer. Rishi sunak is too weak to take on the extremists in his party and too weak to deliver the change. Britain needs my change. Labour party is ready to deliver for the british people. Sir keir starmer has people. Sir keir starmer has been silent on his own mps getting hammered everywhere they go. Hes been silent on the old go. Hes been silent on the old marches. Hes been silent on marches. Hes been silent on George Galloway. The labour George Galloway. The labour leader, is trapped. He simply could not make the kind of speech that rishi sunak made today because scores of his own mps wouldnt want him to, and itd be slagging off the people that the labour party spent years cosying up to. But lets get the thoughts now of my panel and it is a stellar line up for you tonight. It is the spectators james heale. Ive spectators james heale. Ive also got the bbc political chief, John Sergeant and apprentice finalist joanna jaflue. Apprentice finalist Joanna Jarjue. Thank you very, very jarjue. Thank you very, very much for joining jarjue. Thank you very, very much forjoining me tonight. Much for joining me tonight. James. I will start with you on the end there. Two takeaways for me from rishi sunaks speech. Um, what ive just said there about starmer potentially about keir starmer potentially not to make it. The not being able to make it. The other one is should he now apologise Suella Braverman apologise to Suella Braverman for essentially for saying essentially what she said for saying essentially what she saiiwell, thats what some tory well, thats what some tory mps privately saying mps are privately saying tonight, that. Hang on mps are privately saying tcsec. T, that. Hang on mps are privately saying tcsec. Suella that. Hang on mps are privately saying tcsec. Suella braverman ang on mps are privately saying tc sec. Suella braverman was on a sec. Suella braverman was saying this kind of stuff five months yet what the months ago. And yet what was the response Prime Minister response of the Prime Minister was sack her . Of course, was to sack her . And of course, if you are going to make this kind of speech, its curious timing. I think in ways, timing. I think in some ways, coming by election coming after the by election result, want to do it result, surely you want to do it beforehand. These all beforehand. Um, find these all the issues involved in the campaign, say is campaign, but all id say is that, know, the voters that, you know, the voters returned their verdict. And so perhaps tories perhaps i think some tories would have to seen would have liked to seen a bit more of bit sooner. More of this a bit sooner. Um, what do you reckon to today, joanna . Do you think he was. He was bang on the money. Hes calling for an end to extremism. Hes calling for an end to ext|yeah,n. Hes calling for an end to ext|yeah, absolutely. You know, yeah, absolutely. You know, keir starmer has been calling yeah, absolutely. You know, against him. Extremism on both sides. That, you against him. Extremism on both sides. Rishi that, you against him. Extremism on both sides. Rishi sunakthat, you against him. Extremism on both sides. Rishi sunak um, you against him. Extremism on both sides. Rishi sunak um, seems know, rishi sunak um, seems to kind of align himself more so with people who have more right wing hes wing views. Obviously hes a hes part of a right wing party, but that he hasnt but also the fact that he hasnt actually condemned some of the stuff to stuff when it comes to islamophobia in his own party. I think that thats whats quite concerning. That he concerning. So the fact that he kind very much puts himself kind of very much puts himself on one side and only kind of speaks out when its to do with islamists when to do islamists or when its to do with dont with people who dont necessarily agree with his views. When it comes to gaza. Thats quite telling. Its also quite i suppose its also quite certain, though, john, is that keir trapped keir starmer is a bit trapped when comes to calling out when it comes to calling out some the that are at some of the views that are at these calling these protests, calling out, uh, for example, the old George Galloway situation. Is a galloway situation. He is in a tight at the moment. Tight spot at the moment. He isnt tight stop. He isnt as tight stop. I would suggest that both party leaders, party leaders, both main party leaders, both main party leaders, are in a very tight spot because because traditionally to traditionally were meant to support. Right. Support israel. Right. Absolutely straightforward. Thats it. Both sides agree. Thats it. Both sides agree. Keir starmer wants to make sure that hes in that responsible league. But then whats league. But then whats happening is that this is nothing to do with what theyre trying to do. But in the middle east itself, israel is losing the propaganda war. Now, this is not a matter of right and wrong. What happened on october the 7th . People are seeing these pictures gaza night after pictures from gaza night after night, night, and many night, after night, and many people , well, many people are people, well, many people are not convinced that that this policy is going to work and that thousands of women and children are being killed unnecessarily. Are being killed unnecessarily. Now that makes it extremely difficult for anyone who takes up the traditional british america position on israel. And america position on israel. And im not saying its not impossible. Now they they plough on. But if you were told just to imagine paul right back, theres a by election being held in britain and gaza is one of the big subjects. Where are peoples hearts . Where are peoples feelings . Well, lots of them are feelings . Well, lots of them are thinking , feelings . Well, lots of them are thinking, gosh, its feelings . Well, lots of them are thinking , gosh, its horrible feelings . Well, lots of them are thinking, gosh, its horrible in gaza. Thinking, gosh, its horrible in gaza. I do fear for all those gaza. I do fear for all those palestinian is the end. Now im saying, oh, but arent they remembering on october the 7th, straightforward , seeing it on straightforward, seeing it on the television. It happened with america in vietnam. Yeah. You lose the television war. You may lose the television war. You may lose the television war. You may lose the whole thing. Okay. James. So later on, by the way, i should just tease out something. Ive got George Galloways right hand man. Later on in the show, and im going to be him about what exactly be asking him about what exactly he means by the oldest Keir Starmers Worst Nightmare, george hes got 59 George Galloway says hes got 59 candidates ready to stand, and theyre to tackling theyre going to be tackling labour by either costing labour seats by either costing them vote by splitting it, them the vote by splitting it, or winning outright anyway. Or just winning outright anyway. And that george and do you think that George Galloway is to be a galloway is going to be a massive threat labour massive threat to the labour party then . Massive threat to the labour pari then . Massive threat to the labour pari do en . Massive threat to the labour pari do think he will be i do think he will be a threat. And i think what weve seen in recent months is the snp standing prime standing up in every Prime Ministers they level ministers questions. They level all questions the prime all their questions at the Prime Minister. Course theyre all their questions at the prime miraimed course theyre all their questions at the prime miraimed at course theyre all their questions at the prime miraimed at stopping; theyre all their questions at the prime miraimed at stopping scottish all aimed at stopping scottish laboun all aimed at stopping scottish labour. Were going labour. I think what were going to is a lot more attacks to see is a lot more attacks from the left. Were going to see a lot of clips of George Galloway standing up in the chamber viral on chamber trying to go viral on tiktok instagram, etc, tiktok and instagram, etc, closed so i do closed whatsapp groups. So i do think will be some because he think he will be some because he is giving voice. As john is saying, foreign saying, there to a Foreign Policy lot of people policy that a lot of people agree with, and also social agree with, and also a social conservatism that not conservatism that is not represented in this country right represented in this country rigistick with now, stick with you for now, because just return to the because just to return to the actual crux of which is actual crux of this, which is the speech that many the sunak speech that many people seen the people will have seen on the steps earlier steps of downing street earlier on some people are saying, right, look, hes finally right, well, look, hes finally got finally got got there. Hes finally now got to position that to a similar position that Suella Braverman was, which is essentially marches are essentially these marches are hateful. And if somebody comes into this country on a visa that has extremist views, will has got extremist views, we will just them. I think quite just deport them. I think quite a people saying, why are a few people are saying, why are you saying this now . Well you only saying this now . Well i mean, that on the one mean, i think that on the one hand you can say he had to respond result. Hand you can say he had to res|buti result. Hand you can say he had to res|but i result. Hand you can say he had to res|but i do result. Hand you can say he had to res|but i do thinkult. Hand you can say he had to res|but i do think at. Hand you can say he had to res|but i do think a conservative but i do think a conservative saying you could have done a bit more of this sooner. And in some saying you could have done a bit more itsthis sooner. And in some saying you could have done a bit more its a s sooner. And in some saying you could have done a bit more its a bitooner. And in some saying you could have done a bit more its a bit of|er. And in some saying you could have done a bit more its a bit of a. And in some saying you could have done a bit more its a bit of a sunak. � | some ways its a bit of a sunak. Right . Kind problem really, right . Kind of problem really, which you come bit which is that you come a bit belated to issue at hand. Belated to the issue at hand. You forth a bit you then come forth with a bit of technocratic solution, of a technocratic solution, a framework, i think the prime framework, and i think the Prime Minister really ought to be doing of lead on this. Doing a bit of a lead on this. Joanna, he said to the police, sunak we police, rishi sunak today we want not manage want you to not just manage these marches. We want to these marches. We want you to police will police them and we will back you. He got quite animated when he that he was, you know, he said that he was, you know, almost snarling. The almost not snarling. Thats the wrong pumped almost not snarling. Thats the wrong um, pumped almost not snarling. Thats the wrong um, this pumped almost not snarling. Thats the wrong um, this is pumped almost not snarling. Thats the wrong um, this is going|mped almost not snarling. Thats the wrong um, this is going to jed almost not snarling. Thats the wrong um, this is going to be up. And, um, this is going to be a problem tomorrow, isnt it . On the london . Because a problem tomorrow, isnt it . On the Police London . Because a problem tomorrow, isnt it . On the police are london . Because a problem tomorrow, isnt it . On the police are going] . Because a problem tomorrow, isnt it . On the police are going] . Isay,use a problem tomorrow, isnt it . On the police are going] . Isay, all the police are going to say, all right, well, police these right, well, well police these marches theyll try and it marches and theyll try and it will kick off. Probably. Will kick off. No probably. Think that well, and i think that obviously be obviously people will be emboldened in emboldened by the result in rochdale kind see rochdale and kind of can see that other in the that theres other people in the country and there is actually a realistic to the realistic solution to the problem that theyve realistic solution to the problitrying that theyve realistic solution to the problitrying to that theyve realistic solution to the problitrying to get]at theyve realistic solution to the problitrying to get]at the ve been trying to get via the labour party quite get labour party and not quite get in. Um, but i think that you know, this almost rishi know, this is almost a rishi sunak against the sunak with his back against the wall got to a point wall because hes got to a point now where he cant silence people when to people because when they go to the box, they to the ballot box, they are able to change they are able change things and they are able to somebody can to elect somebody who can actually a voice them actually have a voice for them that think credible. Um, that they think is credible. Um, in, the house of commons. And in, in the house of commons. And now, know, basically at in, in the house of commons. And nov1last know, basically at in, in the house of commons. And nov1last levelrv, basically at in, in the house of commons. And nov1last level where basically at in, in the house of commons. And nov1last level where all;ically at in, in the house of commons. And nov1last level where all hesy at the last level where all hes got now get, you know, got to do now is get, you know, tougher, tougher policing and basically silence them. Think but if you want to i think the thing, of course, the other key thing, of course, is what hes trying to do. Absolutely from absolutely follows on from from joanna, from what youre saying, joanna, his now thinks, his job, he now thinks, is we must keep Concert Party must keep the Concert Party together. What do we talk about . Together. What do we talk about . Lets talk about extremism. Lets talk about extremism. Lets talk about. You dont have lets talk about. You dont have to talk about. He can look outside his window to see it, but he may. But, but but wait a moment. Suella down Suella Braverman has laid down the position as as james says, hes following her. But why is hes following her. But why is he doing that . Because he thinks i must keep the conservative. Do you not think maybe theres a chance of doing it because he thinks is absolute madness . Thinks this is absolute madness . Happening whats happening on the streets the people whats happening on the stree it the people whats happening on the stree it and the people whats happening on the stree it and it the people whats happening on the stree it and it cantthe people whats happening on the stree it and it cant go people whats happening on the stree it and it cant go on. ]ple hate it and it cant go on. I think the most striking thing for me was the fact that keir starmer subsequently rowed in behind rishi sunaks statement and said, i completely agree with it all because i think that shows that keir starmer boxed in starmer is to an extent boxed in on this. So hes actually following rishi sunaks on following rishi sunaks lead on this making the political than making the political weather, said, weather, because, as weve said, for different reasons, labour cant really talk about some of these issues. And thats why i do rishi sunak, although do think rishi sunak, although belatedly, the right belatedly, is doing the right thing now. Think theyve realised i think theyve both realised that actually comes to that when it actually comes to people know, people that when it actually comes to pe0jtalk know, people that when it actually comes to pe0jtalk a know, people that when it actually comes to pe0jtalk a lot, know, people that when it actually comes to pe0jtalk a lot, iyou� , people that when it actually comes to pe0jtalk a lot, iyou know, le will talk a lot, but, you know, you kind put your money where you kind of put your money where your the voting the your mouth is and the voting the other and you know, when it other way. And you know, when it gets of kind of who gets to the point of kind of who can who actually can we save, who will actually realistically us in the realistically vote for us in the end, they might as well go the other enforce other way and actually enforce tougher other way and actually enforce tou does Suella Braverman does this Suella Braverman thing this off . Thing just to round this off . Okay so its important just okay so its important to just remember, you know, suella. All right. Very strong right. She used very Strong Language actual language okay. But the actual heart sentiment was heart of this sentiment was essentially exactly the same as what rishi sunak was saying. Sure. Why is she gone . You know, sure. Why is she gone . You know, hes now gone. I mean, i think, you know, full frontal weakness, though. Thats what im saying. Hes desperately trying catch up desperately trying to catch up to that hes not too to make sure that hes not too far away from Suella Braverman. And taken him , you know, a and its taken him, you know, a couple of weeks. All of this couple of weeks. All of this strikes as being the strikes me as being the difficulty that rishi sunak has with politics. Hes good on the ground plans microeconomics ground plans and microeconomics and the budget and all that kind of thing. But when it comes to straightforward, Old Fashioned politics, simply does politics, he often simply does not to do. And not know what to do. And therefore hes hes advisors rush in and say its time for a bit of politics. Ah, yes , i get it. Its because he doesnt actually agree with Suella Braverman. He literally his back is against the wall and hes thinking, what can i do now . The point, the point for me in this is the genie is out in all this is the genie is out of bottle. You know, there of the bottle. You know, there was an opportunity. Its like when started when the first boats started coming across the channel, if sajid the first sajid javid had turned the first one wouldnt this one back, we wouldnt have this problem didnt problem now. And that didnt happen. Are now. Happen. And here we are now. Weve after weve had march after march after weve george after march. Weve got George Galloway back in parliament. Weve got this and weve got all of this stuff. And now put a lid now youre trying to put a lid on something that is out on something that is way out there. Anyway, well be there. But anyway, well be talking bit more about talking a little bit more about this because still to this later on because still to come, be called come, police had to be called to a meeting a Pro Life Society meeting in manchester will manchester last night. We will discuss is under discuss if free speech is under attack, and well talk to someone actually at that someone who was actually at that meeting. Students revolting. Someone who was actually at that meeyes, students revolting. Someone who was actually at that meeyes, studengallowayolting. Someone who was actually at that meeyes, studengalloway says]. But yes, George Galloway says that last that his by election win last night a nightmare for labour night is a nightmare for labour leader sir keir starmer. Im going to speak to james giles later. Was by galloways later. So he was by galloways side at the count in rochdale last night. Side at the count in rochdale last night. But first its my head to head. Nigel farage says that everyone can see that my migration is ruining britain. Is migration is ruining britain. Is he right . Well be debating that with two great guests right here in the studio and yes, at 10 pm. As well. Serious questions to answer for keir starmer with the whole Lindsay Hoyle affair. Interesting development today. Stay. This is Patrick Christys tonight were on gb news and it is time now for our head to head. So now for our head to head. So estimates suggest that since 2004, more people have arrived in britain each year than arrived in the entire period between 1066 and 1950. The transformation has been so off the scale that native brits are now a minority in several major cities, nigel farage argued in the telegraph today that after the rochdale by election, everyone can now see that mass migration is ruining britain. Religious sectarianism taking over small lancashire towns aside, the idea that immigration is good for the economy is also looking shaky. The ifs warned only last week that jeremy hunfs only last week that jeremy hunts £100 billion tax jump is a direct consequence of record net migration. So look, were net migration. So look, were worse off per capita. Our Public Services are crumbling under the weight of rapid population growth. We have a catastrophic housing crisis , and foreign housing crisis, and foreign conflicts are playing out on the streets of britain. Is mass migration ruining this country . Well here to unravel all of this is former treasury adviser james price, who is currently the adam smith institute, and robert bates as well, who is the Research Director at the centre for control. Chaps, for migration control. Chaps, thank you very, very much. Uh, ill start with you, robert. Do you think that migration is you think that mass migration is ruining you think that mass migration is ruiroh , hands down, it is oh, hands down, it is absolutely every metric possible, its possible, whether its culturally , societally, uh, culturally, societally, uh, housing, Public Services , housing, Public Services, infrastructure. And now were seeing you know, the biggest decline in gdp per capita on record. You know , its record. You know, its successive periods of decline. Successive periods of decline. Um, and people arent seeing any of the benefits that we have been promised. Been promised. Okay. Mean, its quite hard okay. I mean, its quite hard to back to that, isnt it . To come back to that, isnt it . Yeah. I mean, this is bit yeah. I mean, this is a bit of to head, uh, perhaps of a head to head, uh, perhaps were agreeing in different kinds ways here. I think we kinds of ways here. I think we can which can imagine a world in which migration for migration would be amazing for britain. If the people britain. Right . If the people coming genuinely, coming over are all genuinely, really in human capital, really high in human capital, aka theyre smart , theyre aka theyre smart, theyre hardworking, got great hardworking, theyve got great skills. Love this country. Skills. They love this country. They institutions. They love its institutions. Theyre to come over theyre desperate to come over here then here and become british. Then immigration would total, immigration would be a total, unalloyed good as it is. Its not its not that i dont think that its complete terrible in every single way. Again, there are lots people that come who single way. Again, there are lots to eople that come who single way. Again, there are lots to become]at come who single way. Again, there are lots to become british,e who single way. Again, there are lots to become british, who single way. Again, there are lots to become british, who want want to become british, who want to work maybe theyve to work here. Maybe theyve got historical cultural ties. Australia canada, america, or they just love it and want to make it their home because they like environment like the Business Environment and things like that. And i think to get the think weve got to get the balance of quality balance right of quality over quantity. Youve quantity. Okay robert, youve done is obviously done so. The fact is obviously you can a system where you can imagine a system where everyone holding you can imagine a system where everyordancing holding you can imagine a system where everyordancing rainbows. Hands, dancing around rainbows. And perfect. But the and that sounds perfect. But the fact now weve fact of the matter is now weve seen years that that seen for 20 years that that system isnt viable. It system just isnt viable. It doesnt in minds of doesnt exist in the minds of whitehall mandarins, sure whitehall mandarins, as im sure youre know the youre well aware. You know the system has a tendency system itself has a tendency towards migration as the towards mass migration as the solution to most problems. And that importation of that involves the importation of cheap that doesnt cheap labour that just doesnt benefit productivity the benefit the productivity or the value thats added the economy. Yeah. So i suppose with respect then the reality that you envisage just doesnt and will not ever exist. Yeah, i think that we have to behalf of not throwing the baby out the bathwater here. If out with the bathwater here. If we the drawbridge we just pull up the drawbridge entirely, thats not going to fix that fix all of the problems that robert pointed out. Its robert rightly pointed out. Its not just immigration. Its not just new people coming over here. People are here. A lot of people who are Second Generation on here and still lots these still have lots of these problems, cultural problems. Not that voted for that everybody who voted for that everybody who voted for that is , is that idiot in rochdale is, is a first generation person whos just got themselves a passport and a vote. So it runs deeper than and in same time, than that. And in the same time, pulling will pulling up that drawbridge will lose incredibly talented lose these incredibly talented people. Who will people. The people who will found companies who will found Amazing Companies who will fall love and marry brits. Fall in love and marry brits. Right my other american. Right my other half is american. I want her to able to stay. I want her to be able to stay. And think that she this and i think that she loves this country her family come from country and her family come from all kind of stuff. So all that kind of stuff. So theres a balance found theres a balance to be found there. But let let there. But let let put this but let me let me put this to you. Are saying if nigel you. If we are saying if nigel farage that mass farage is saying that mass migration ruined britain, migration has ruined britain, i mean, still a of mean, there are still a heck of a are you not a lot of brits. Are you not proud anything in this proud of anything in this country anymore . You know . Absolutely. Oh, absolutely. No. Oh, absolutely. No. Love aspects the i still love aspects of the country. I history, the country. I love the history, the countryside, those countryside, you know, all those things brought things that were brought up on. The poetry, the plays and things like that. I feel like the poetry, the plays and things like thwere feel like the poetry, the plays and things like thwere headinglike the poetry, the plays and things like thwere heading as] the poetry, the plays and things like thwere heading as a society where were heading as a society now nigel now isnt as one. As nigel points in his piece, you points out in his piece, you know, society through this mass migration know, society through this mass migra seeing now were seeing communities now congregate were seeing communities now congtheree were seeing communities now congthere isnt the same and there isnt the same integration same corner integration and the same corner turn. But british is it turn. But british dream is it salvageable then . If saying if were if so if hes saying if were if were with nigel were starting with the nigel farage premise that it has ruined , can we now ruined britain, can we now reverse so look, weve had reverse that . So look, weve had 20 years a pretty drastic 20 years of a pretty drastic experiment now. I do think as and i do think that as a result, we are going to have to take pretty, you know, strident views we cant really be carrying on with the, oh, hundreds 200,000 carrying on with the, oh, hl somehow 200,000 carrying on with the, oh, hl somehow i 0,000 carrying on with the, oh, thomehow i think0 carrying on with the, oh, thneediow i think0 carrying on with the, oh, thneediowhave i think0 carrying on with the, oh, thneediowhave seriousi think0 we need to have serious conversations level conversations about what level is and doesnt is sustainable and doesnt compound the problems that we are facing. Compound the problems that we are now, facing. Compound the problems that we are now, will g. Compound the problems that we are now, will be my next now, this will be my next point, which we are not point, which is that we are not realistically ever going to find ourselves where ourselves in a situation where that happens, are we . Therefore, it britain . It has ruined britain . Ruined is too no, i think ruined is too fatalistic. I think that you can see if we have control of a decent education system. Right schools actually have got a lot better what theyre better in terms of what theyre teaching. Kids and kids are learning theyre coming learning more. Theyre coming out with actual out of schools with actual want to kids to state to send their kids to state schools, but theyre, well, actually states weve schools, but theyre, well, actlally states weve schools, but theyre, well, actla lot states weve schools, but theyre, well, actla lotstates right . Weve schools, but theyre, well, actla lot states right . Soeve schools, but theyre, well, actla lot states right . So ite got a lot better. Right . So it used two thirds were good used to be two thirds were good or outstanding. Now its over 90. Im definitely to 90. Im definitely going to afford a afford to go to ten and to a private school. There are private school. But there are there great schools. Right. There are great schools. Right. And and then and so you go in there and then you teaching good british you start teaching good British Values like robert, i agree that im relativist. Dont im not a relativist. I dont think just think other countries are just different. This different. I think that this country but that country is better, but that weve back from weve been held back from explaining that to too many communities pm said communities as the pm said today, said today, the Prime Minister said today, the Prime Minister said today, being today, the Prime Minister said toda by being today, the Prime Minister said toda by we being today, the Prime Minister said todaby we need being today, the Prime Minister said toda by we need to ing today, the Prime Minister said toda by we need to be side by side. We need to be living when start living together when we start explaining law that explaining the rule of law that capitalism, that shakespeare, all better than capitalism, that shakespeare, all alternative, better than capitalism, that shakespeare, all alternative, itheres]an the alternative, then theres still would make the people would make the argument that, hey, look, we are culturally enriched. 7 ee. Agree . N agree . I dont think anyone no. And i dont think anyone seriously in their heart of hearts believes that be hearts believes that to be perfectly think thats perfectly honest, i think thats the you might the kind of thing that you might hear in islington. But hear in a pub in islington. But i if you went anywhere i think if you went anywhere else be else in the country, youd be hard pressed to find the argument kind things argument that the kind of things that were for instance, that were seeing, for instance, in the in rochdale, is somehow for the benefit of the country. Was there a moment in time . I mean, disagree mean, you might disagree entirely dont entirely with that. I dont know, there a moment in know, but was there a moment in time kind time where we were in that kind of squiffy little period where we enriched we were culturally enriched and everything and it was everything was nice and it was all right, and now actually, thats tipped. And weve got eritreans fighting other eritreans fighting each other with sticks in places. Yeah i think definitely have been think there definitely have been bits where probably all bits where we probably all should more. Should have woken up a lot more. It was the late 1980s i think it was the late 1980s when there fatwa put out when there was a fatwa put out against rushdie. English when there was a fatwa put out aghisst rushdie. English when there was a fatwa put out aghis third rushdie. English when there was a fatwa put out aghis third language,iie. English when there was a fatwa put out aghis third language, right . ;lish when there was a fatwa put out aghis third language, right . Anh is his third language, right . An amazing make amazing writer chose to make england much england his home. Its much better most. Better at writing than most. Most in english, and most brits are in english, and that people were calling for his death on streets that death on the streets at that point. Could nip point. There we could have nip this then maybe this in the bud and then maybe gone that sort of skipping gone to that sort of skipping around rainbows and all the around with rainbows and all the rest happen. Then rest of it didnt happen. Then didnt happen after 77 either. And at and i think were pointing at theres one particular set of cultural differences that are quite tricky. Not islam. Quite tricky. Its not islam. Islamism, big islamism, however, is a big problem, and that into problem, and that plays into culture as well as it plays into social as as the social issues as well as the prime pointed out. Prime minister pointed out. We are going yeah, look, and we are going to be having a massive conversation little conversation about that a little bit the show as bit later on in the show as well. Issues, certainly well. Huge issues, certainly when comes to islamism, which when it comes to islamism, which rishi sunak actually stand rishi sunak did actually stand on downing street rishi sunak did actually stand on mentioned downing street rishi sunak did actually stand on mentioned today,ng street rishi sunak did actually stand on mentioned today, again,et and mentioned today, again, begging were and mentioned today, again, beggin bullish were and mentioned today, again, beggin bullish with were and mentioned today, again, beggin bullish with suella were you so bullish with Suella Braverman also, maybe braverman and also, maybe you got it slightly with lee got it slightly wrong with lee anderson. There we got it slightly wrong with lee anclook,. There we got it slightly wrong with lee anclook,. You there we got it slightly wrong with lee anclook,. You very|ere we got it slightly wrong with lee anclook,. You very much, go. Look, thank you very much, both you. Great there. Both of you. Great stuff there. Uh, adviser uh, former treasury adviser james price, whos currently with institute, with the adam smith institute, and well as and robert bates as well as Research Director at the centre for migration control. Do Research Director at the centre for iagreeion control. Do Research Director at the centre for iagree with . Ntrol. Do Research Director at the centre for iagree with . Ntrmigration you agree with . Is migration ruining axe ruining britain . Johnny on axe says only to see what says you only have to see what its our streets its like on our streets and towns in big cities. And the fact that an alien culture fact is that an alien culture and religion dictate our and religion now dictate our politics strong stuff. Politics while strong stuff. Johnny, some people would disagree, uncontrolled disagree, jan says uncontrolled immigration is ruining britain too many and too fast. Our infrastructure cannot cope and its deep divisions, ian its causing deep divisions, ian says. Not a lot of shades of grey today, by the grey in this inbox today, by the way. Anyone way. Yes patrick, and anyone saying is either lying saying it isnt is either lying or either has buried in the sand. There we go. 94 . Right . Well, there we go. 94 of you say that migration , mass of you say that migration, mass migration, i would like to point out is ruining britain. 6 of you it isnt. So the gb news you say it isnt. So the gb news viewers have spoken, but coming up, George Galloway says that his by election win last night is a nightmare for labour leader sir keir starmer. Im going to be speaking to james giles, who was by side at that count in was by his side at that count in rochdale night. But next, rochdale last night. But next, ugly in manchester ugly scenes in manchester as a Pro Life Society attempted to me. We can just show you a little clip of it now. Yeah shame on you , shame on you. So shame on you, shame on you. So im going to talk to someone who was at that meeting and ask if free speech is under threat. Its more than just an abortion debate. This really which i try to avoid it most times , to avoid it most times, especially on a friday night. Theres actually a lot more to it than this. Its about whether theres actually a lot more to it thanpeople s about whether theres actually a lot more to it thanpeople s aboishould her theres actually a lot more to it thanpeople s aboishould just or not people really should just be go meet and be allowed to go and meet and discuss their without a discuss their views without a baying for them baying mob waiting for them outside. This is Patrick Christys were on. Gb news, so the manchester Pro Life Society attempted to hold a meeting last night, and lets just see how they were greeted. Yeah shame on you. Shame on you. Shame. Okay so shame on you. Shame. Okay so now not everyone would agree with the Pro Life Society. With the Pro Life Society. His views essentially anti abortion , isnt it . But anti abortion, isnt it . But some of them are clearly outside of the mainstream now. Should they be able though, to meet in peace, to just peacefully meet up, have a meeting , have up, have a meeting, have a gathering . Well, apparently not, because the night ended in violence, didnt it . Well, i think we can take another little look at that now. Im gonna look at that now. Im gonna leave it. Weve just become so leave it. Weve just become so extreme, havent we . Ingombota is a First Year Student at the university studying dental hygiene and therapy. Now, she hygiene and therapy. Now, she attended this Pro Life Society meeting. Good evening. Thank you very much. Im very pleased to have you on the show. So, um, have you on the show. So, um, could you just explain to me, please, happened . Please, exactly what happened . And so and not necessarily just last night as well, some of the kind of abuse and situations that found yourselves in. That you found yourselves in. All right. So firstly , um, all right. So firstly, um, university should be a place where you can discuss and debate opinions without the fear of, uh, being marginalised or oppressed. Uh, what happened last night was completely opposite to that. Opposite to that. Um, we were met with a lot of abuse and oppression just for wanting to discuss our own opinions together. Wanting to discuss our own opinions together. And uh, opinions together. And uh, people were getting physical. They were shouting abuse at us. One man even got into my face with his hands and told me to get raped. Uh, thats thats not get raped. Uh, thats thats not pro women. Um and its pro women. Um and its definitely not tolerance in the slightest. Slightest. No. And regardless of whether or not somebody agrees with the pro life stance or whatever, and lets be honest, its one of the more contentious views in society. It is a massive dividing point, but regardless of that, i would hope that everybody can agree that, you know , looking a woman in the eye know, looking a woman in the eye and saying that she should get raped is not really the way to go about doing these things, is it . Um, what what else has gone on . I mean, have you noticed then, that that theres been this huge amount of hate towards yourself and, and other people with your views . Yes. As soon as, uh, people heard about that, uh, we were becoming a society and, uh, who was on the committee, we would get messages from the opposing opinion , uh, with hateful opinion, uh, with hateful messages saying were disgusting , that were horrible, that we should be ashamed of ourselves and were a were a peaceful society. We just want whats society. We just want whats best for the women and the baby because we believe that all life is precious. Uh, and so weve is precious. Uh, and so weve been oppressed for having that view. And last night. View. And last night. Then just and last night. Then just talk me through exactly what happened. So talk me through exactly what happened. So you were having some kind of meeting somewhere in manchester, and clearly people found out where you were, and they decided to dedicate their thursday evening to hanging around outside and doing things like spitting on you as you left. Yeah thats right. Um yeah. So we had just met for an introductory talk explaining who we were, what our opinions were, and that we were not going to become , uh, we were not going to become, uh, horrible to people who dont have the share the same opinions as us. Um however, we were met with such violence and hatred and, uh, just for wanting to gather together in a group with our own opinion ons and debate as to what we actually believe in. And at what point did you realise that there was a baying mob outside, and that the police had to get involved . Well, as soon as i arrived at the there were already the building, there were already huge of people there. I huge amounts of people there. I had to squeeze through the people who were shouting and shoving. It was quite a terrifying experience. Um, and terrifying experience. Um, and i mean, this is a this is quite a far reaching terror because its not just me and the Pro Life Society who theyve tethered. It is also our family, our friends, all the people who love us are now fearing for our safety on campus as it is , people, uh, campus as it is, people, uh, have already been harassed today, uh, because theyve been recognised as being associated with us. Uh, and this is not a how far have we. Why has our society become a place where tolerance has only extends to those who share the same opinions as you . Yeah, i would also argue again that, you know, were all right. These views might be contentious. And its one of these things that everyones got an opinion one way or the an opinion on one way or the other, actually your view other, but actually your view is a mainstream view. You know, most religions would share your view. Okay. Most of the, uh, more established religions certainly would share your view. And until really quite recently, it was the prevailing view in society. Okay. So the idea now that people should be hammered for it is, i think, a little bit baffling really. What have the universities said about this . Universities said about this . Well, the university, theyve been very supportive as to keeping our freedom of speech available up until last night. Uh, were not allowed to do any more events until easter because of the safety risk. And the perpetrators of the, the violence last night. Um, theyre violence last night. Um, theyre not getting any repercussions. Not getting any repercussions. Uh, were not getting any Safety Measures from the university , so nothing. Right. So basically, youve right. So basically, youve been made to delay any future events and, uh, the people who were saying horrific things , were saying horrific things, which, again, just remind people include telling you that you need to be raped are not going to have any consequences. Any to have any consequences. Any word from the police . Word from the police . Um , no, not that i know of. Um, no, not that i know of. Right no. Okay. Okay. I mean, again, this right no. Okay. Okay. I mean, again, this is possibly another quite egregious example of two tier policing, but there we go. Um, all right. Well, look, thank you very, very much. I will just ask one final much. I will just ask one final question on this, actually, which is just what would you what you to someone what would you say to someone who who does say, look, know who who does say, look, you know , the pro life kind of anti abortion not anti abortion approach is not really modern, okay . And there are a lot of reasons why someone might want an abortion, including , might want an abortion, including, you might want an abortion, including , you know, ironically, including, you know, ironically, given the context of what were talking about now, some of the things have been said, you things that have been said, you know, example, mean, know, rape, for example, i mean, what to that be . Well, rape is a very violent act done to a woman or a man. But in cases of pregnancy resulting from rape, uh , it resulting from rape, uh, it doesnt change the violence of this act does not change the idea. And the fact that a life is formed from this , um, and we is formed from this, um, and we cant justify why murder. Just because , uh, they were conceived because, uh, they were conceived from a horrific experience. Um, from a horrific experience. Um, life is precious. Yeah. Yeah. And you guys have obviously got your your views, and you know, youre not got any intention to go out and start what . I dont know, you know, loudly campaigning outside abortion clinics and things like that. You just simply wanted to meet up and have a conversation with other like minded individuals. And to offer and, and we want to offer support to women who may want another other than another option other than abortion, because there are a lot of resources out there that women arent told. And its because we are silenced. Because we are silenced. Yeah. And it will be interesting to see how this all pans out on campus, etc, wont it . But i think it possibly does tie into something that many people see, you know. Right across the country now, which is the jump to extremity the jump, the jump to extremity when theres a theres the slightest disagreement. Well look, thank you very much for coming on. And incredibly brave again to put your face forward, especially given what happened last. We you know, last night. And we do, you know, regardless of what anyone thinks of or like of your views or anything like that, absolutely that, im sure absolutely everybody well. And, everybody wishes you well. And, you certainly no harm you know, certainly no harm to come in the come to you or anyone in the society. Thank you much. Society. So thank you very much. Uh, care thank you for uh, take care now. Thank you for having right. Look after having me. All right. Look after yourself. So yourself. Bye bye. Um, okay. So look, coming up, up, look, coming up, coming up, coming in my monologue coming up in my monologue at ten. A big one. This. Now, ten. Its a big one. This. Now, pressure is mounting on sir keir starmer. I have uncovered some some claims and they are just claims about what the labour leader said to speaker sir Lindsay Hoyle. And there has been an astonishing development in hoyle starmer saga in this hoyle starmer saga today, i think. Well frankly, it could be about to get very serious. But my panel will be here with the liveliest and most unfiltered you unfiltered paper of you. You will get on telly. But next, tory conor burns has been tory mp sir conor burns has been accused of fanning the flames of racism by traveller charity. Racism by a traveller charity. We will speak to an irish traveller under the star of my big fat gypsy wedding. Its paddy doherty. Do the travellers suffer too much racism . Or, as suffer too much racism . Or, as some people think , are they some people think, are they sometimes a bit of a nuisance . Ill see you sack all right. Welcome along. Lots to talk about here because tory mp sir conor burns has been accused of fanning the flames of racism by a traveller charity. Racism by a traveller charity. He raised concerns for a new traveller camp in his constituency , and he said that constituency, and he said that he will not be silenced. Take a look. They have allocated a site with 15 spaces for what they call the so called settle gypsy and Traveller Community. Im saying in agreement, i think, with many local residents that this site here in the middle of this residential area is not the right place. Is not the right place. Okay, no expense spared on the video. Traveller seemed to come under fire a lot though, dont they . Holiday park pontins recently banning a list of surnames that indicate that people are irish travellers. Can i also just say some of those surnames, including incredibly common calais . So common surnames like calais . So there wedding venues there we are. Wedding venues have been known to cancel have also been known to cancel weddings get an weddings if they get an indication people are part indication that people are part of community. But of the Traveller Community. But its innocent , though, its not all innocent, though, is it . Because you know , is it . Because you know, sometimes have been sometimes travellers have been known kick up a little bit of known to kick up a little bit of a fuss, havent they . Just like when this fight broke out in a cemetery there we cemetery with machetes, there we go. Yeah, thats right. Just a nice peaceful day out at the funeral there. And uh. And he comes. Oh, there we are. And a comes. Oh, there we are. And a baseball bat. All right, look, baseball bat. All right, look, we get the point, dont we . Sometimes it kicks off big time. Now, what do you think about all of this . Joining me to discuss this is irish traveller and the star of my big fat gypsy weddings, paddy doherty, who i understand has rather unfortunately just dropped off the there go. Oh no the line. So there we go. Oh no matter. Ive got my panel here now. When initially came now. When you initially came into tonight, had now. When you initially came intiindication tonight, had now. When you initially came intiindication wedight, had now. When you initially came intiindication wed bet, had now. When you initially came intiindication wed be talking ad no indication wed be talking about gypsies. And yet here we are. James, you think theres are. James, do you think theres are. James, do you think theres a here from this . Mp a point here from this . Tory mp has accused of racism for has been accused of racism for not wanting a traveller site in his area. Well, i think the thing well, i think the first thing id that i think those id say is that i think those concerns are shared lot of id say is that i think those conciwho are shared lot of id say is that i think those conciwho will;hared lot of id say is that i think those conciwho will express lot of id say is that i think those conciwho will express themt of id say is that i think those conciwho will express them either mps who will express them either publicly privately. Publicly or privately. And i think thats what see in think thats what you see in this were going to this year when were going to have re election have a tight re election year. Um, conor burns um, someone like sir conor burns , touch and go, whether , who is touch and go, whether hes keep his seat, hes going to keep his seat, its clearly be its clearly going to be campaigning heavily on this issue. Its something issue. And i know its something that, for instance, esther mcvey has a lot about before. Has talked a lot about before. And think mps are very much and so i think mps are very much sort and protected sort of dogged and protected their patches, and thats how theyd theyre out theyd sell it when theyre out on doorstep. Theyd sell it when theyre out on its doorstep. Theyd sell it when theyre out on its interesting its interesting though, isnt you if isnt it . Because, you know, if we on its head and it we flip this on its head and it was right, well, i dont was right, well, lets i dont want this group of 20 houses. Thats only be sold to thats only going to be sold to People Community thats only going to be sold to pewhatever. Community thats only going to be sold to pewhatever. If community thats only going to be sold to pewhatever. If an community thats only going to be sold to pewhatever. If an mp mmunity thats only going to be sold to pewhatever. If an mp came]ity thats only going to be sold to pewhatever. If an mp came out or whatever. If an mp came out and said, i really dont want that then that i suppose, that here, then that i suppose, would be deemed to be out and out racism as opposed to now its the irish travellers. Its like, well, you know, theyre a nuisance. Nuisance. Well, yeah. And i think that, um sick of um, im completely sick of politicians basically using a small group of people as a scapegoat. It seems as if, you know, travellers obviously dont have a voice when it comes to mps and actual representation. It seems that nobodys actually sticking up for them. And i sticking up for them. And i think that politicians forget that actually supposed think that politicians forget th. Be actually supposed think that politicians forget th. Be working tually supposed think that politicians forget th. Be working for lly supposed think that politicians forget th. Be working for all supposed think that politicians forget th. Be working for all of posed think that politicians forget th. Be working for all of us, ;ed to be working for all of us, instead of kind adopting this instead of kind of adopting this nimbyism and to get political points , i believe that we might points, i believe that we might we might have we might have. Paddy doherty, king of the travellers. Paddy. Yeah good travellers. Paddy. Yeah good lad. Fantastic. Good to see you, mate. Thank you very, very much. And look how bad is the problem of, of racism against the traveller. Community traveller. Community well, you see how bad, right. You see him there walking down the street. Well, this is a community. Well, this is a community. Well, this is a community. We stand the hair, but we dont. We dont want them. And how, danny want to say about irish travellers . Dare he want to say that . How dare he want to say that . Really . Putting us in really . Youre putting us in a different race. Oh, its gone again. Oh, well, look , i think were going well, look, i think were going to leave it there with to have to leave it there with paddy. The point, paddy. But we did get the point, didnt he said, how dare didnt he . He said, how dare anyone them. Anyone complain about them. Look, put out look, john, i will put it out there. Know, have had there. I, you know, have had some experience when was some experience once when i was growing up with, uh, certain aspects, the Irish Traveller Community were moving on to a specific fields or things and, um , you know, theyve not always um, you know, theyve not always necessarily treated the area with the most respect , have with the most respect, have they . I with the most respect, have they . I mean, is it is it that is it that out of for order an mp to say, i dont really want that here . No. It can be a problem. And the difficulty is, is that if theyre living a separate life, that theyre travellers, theyve got their own community, theyve got their own community, theyve got their own vehicles that they bnng got their own vehicles that they bring in. Sometimes theyre involved in circuses, sometimes even all sorts of things. The kids have got to go to school. All these real life problems have a well, thats part of have got a well, thats part of the problem, by the way, john, sorry, because dont tend sorry, because they dont tend to they dont tend to. But but in terms of trying to integrate them, actually want them, they dont actually want to integrated. Want to be integrated. They want to continue life lives. Continue with their life lives. And that is up against all the modern things like hold on a moment. Well, its not that modern wandering perfect modern wandering to a perfect campsite and suddenly you arrive and there is aggression often. So i mean, its a tricky its their way of life though. And, you know, its not like theyve just turned up two seconds ago. You would think that. I mean, i went to a school to a school where there was a traveller girl and, you know, i understand what youre saying about em coming school and about em coming to school and stuff, we need to stuff, but like, we need to actually traveller actually work with the Traveller Community to community rather than trying to use stupid, kind of use them as a stupid, kind of political spin. I think one thing which is fair is perhaps looking at how much tory mps are willing to talk about Traveller Community rather than some of the other communities different communities which have different issues. Probably issues. And i think probably because to with the because its to do with the nature traveller nature of the Traveller Community People Community in terms of people coming onto land, etc. That people more able people feel much more able to talk rather some talk about that rather than some of around integration of the issues around integration with different of uk. Of the issues around integration wititheyarent of uk. Of the issues around integration witithey talk of uk. Of the issues around integration witithey talk aboutf uk. Of the issues around integration witithey talk about that uk. Of the issues around integration witithey talk about that plenty. They talk about that plenty. They talk about that plenty. Right. Now look okay. All right. Now look what were going to do is im just going ahead with just going to tease ahead with my a topic im going to my panel to a topic im going to be talking about later now my panel to a topic im going to be tgoing about later now my panel to a topic im going to be tgoing atbet later now my panel to a topic im going to be tgoing atbe joined. Now im going to be joined. Well, not that long by George Galloways right the galloways right hand man. The bloke helping bloke whos been helping him with has been with his campaign and has been pictured next him the pictured next to him at the council, im keen to council, etc. Im very keen to get views on george get your views on George Galloway hes an galloway because hes an incredibly figure he incredibly divisive figure. He has. I believe has now been elected. I believe im in this to as im right in saying this to as many constituencies as winston churchill. Only person to do churchill. The only person to do that going all that. He is obviously going all guns blazing into parliament and hitting the absolute sweet spot of the time. That is his perfect issue. Hes capturing the zeitgeist in that regard in a lot of senses. James heale how lot of senses. James heale how big an issue is George Galloway going to be in parliament, do you think . Well hes got one thing keir starmer doesnt, which charisma, is which is charisma, and that is going to be a huge weapon. Hes going and levy hes going to try and levy against the party, who against the labour party, who are rather than just are now facing, rather than just making labour making this about the labour bus, to bus, the tories, its going to be starmer also be about keir starmer also having off against having to face off against george and ill be George Galloway. And ill be fascinated when you fascinated to know when you interview him later. Will George Galloway london galloway be running for london mayor of a mayor and being a bit of a threat side sadiq threat in the side of sadiq khan . And that, course, could khan . And that, of course, could be the westminster be issues for the westminster leadership. If sadiq khan starts attacking Keir Starmers position on certain things. George im sorry, but George Galloway no chance in galloway has got no chance in in london. Think that london. I just dont think that it says your target market let me smashed it in rochdale. It says your target market let me i� mashed it in rochdale. It says your target market let mei mean,d it in rochdale. It says your target market let me i mean,d it irbe chdale. It says your target market let mei mean,d it irbe honest, i mean, lets be honest, theres demographic in theres a big demographic in london. Think going london. No i think hes going to win. I just think he could take votes sadiq yeah votes off sadiq khan. Yeah he could i think that, you know, but i think that, you know, looking geographically, think looking geographically, i think that area like rochdale, its that an area like rochdale, its in, left wing way is in, in its left wing way is a different type of left wing i think to london. I think that the things care about, the things that they care about, obviously they share things like wanting but wanting a ceasefire in gaza. But i think people london i think also people in london will look than that will look further than that because been lot because theres been a lot of problematic george problematic things that George Galloway said. Galloway has also said. Also the point is i think also the point is that people criticise that what people criticise him for opportunism that, you for is opportunism that, you know, over his career, you see him pro soviet , union, him becoming pro soviet, union, pro russian, pro saddam hussein. So if hes going to succeed over this short time, hes got to say, look, im, im caring about rochdale. Ive got to stick with it. Well, hes whatever happens is, look, hes setting the court now. You cant you cant now. You cant you cant suddenly know how course he is, you know. Well because because one of his things is cleaning the town hall clock. Right. Which you can do on a weekend if you really want to. So theres that. Has also so theres that. He has also said going boot out said hes going to boot out a load councillors. I mean, load of councillors. I mean, this going to this is something im going to talk yeah. Um, his talk to. His is yeah. Um, his agent im not agent about because im not entirely sure how hes going to be do that. Hes also be able to do that. Hes also said is where he might be said this is where he might be a bit stuck. He wants to save save the dale rochdale and rochdale football well, thats football club. Well, thats quite football club. Well, thats qui its football club. Well, thats quiits primark got to come its primark has got to come to of rochdale. To the centre of rochdale. This takes time to make sure takes a bit of time to make sure that primark agree. Well, the Maternity Ward as well. No, mm the point. What no, i mean the point. What im saying hes im really saying is hes got a its a very short timescale. Whatever has be its a very short timescale. Whelection has be its a very short timescale. Whelection pretty has be its a very short timescale. Whelection pretty well has be its a very short timescale. Whelection pretty well by as be its a very short timescale. Whelection pretty well by the be an election pretty well by the end of this year. If he skips too early, people will just say hes a fly by night. Trust i theres an argument to say, james, rishi sunak should james, that rishi sunak should just now. Keir just call an election now. Keir starmers seen whats starmers week weve seen whats happened rochdale. You know happened in rochdale. You know this is just it done. Put this is just get it done. Put starmer on the spot because this israel palestine thing is probably, well, its probably going to die down. That was a bit to but bit of a silly thing to say, but its become maybe less its going to become maybe less emotive a few months. Emotive in a few months. Last four i look at the last four weeks, youve seen the 28 billion u turn labour, youve weeks, youve seen the 28 billiothe turn labour, youve weeks, youve seen the 28 billiothe rochdale abour, youve weeks, youve seen the 28 billiothe rochdale abour,andve seen the rochdale fiasco and now the so you know, theres the result. So you know, theres a labour get to fix a sense before labour get to fix these issues, why go now . These issues, why not go now . Thats im hearing thats an argument im hearing in bits. In some bits. Now . Well, okay. Why not go now . Well, okay. You might lose. The problem. You might lose. Well the problem. You might lose. Well timightblem. You might lose. Well timight lose. But well he might lose. But anyway. Sir keir anyway. Now look sir keir starmer is in trouble, okay . Starmer is in big trouble, okay . Devastate allegations devastate putting allegations about that meeting between starmer lindsay starmer and speaker Lindsay Hoyle. Revealing exact hoyle. 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I can categorically tell you that i did not threaten the speaker in any way whatsoever. I speaker in any way whatsoever. I simply urged him to ensure that we have the broadest possible debate, and your mps broadest possible debate. Possible debate. I reveal fresh claims that sir keir starmer has to answer and keir starmer , this this is and keir starmer, this this is for gaza. George galloway is for gaza. George galloway is back and he means business. Weve got 59 parliamentary candidates. Candidates. Its ready to go and well stand in there for three score. Labour seats and either defeat them ourselves or cause their defeat. Defeat. Wow. Well ive got George Galloways right hand man on this show shortly. This show shortly. Plus, good luck , good luck. Plus, good luck, good luck. Cheers, cheers. Mhm prince cheers, cheers. Mhm Prince Williams on the booze. Isnt he toasting harrys latest loss. Maybe ive got all of tomorrows newspaper front pages tonight with the spectators james heale acts. Political journo chief at the bbc. Itsjohn political journo chief at the bbc. Its John Sergeant, an apprentice finalist. Joanna jaflue. Apprentice finalist. Joanna jarjue. And this is a developing jarjue. And this is a developing story. The latest from clapham , story. The latest from clapham, where there appears to have been a mass shooting. As we understand it, three people have been injured. The detail on this been injured. The detail on this is at the moment quite sketchy. We understand that there was a shotgun involved , huge Police Shotgun involved, Huge Police Presence thats in clapham in london, where of course you may remember that name from being the scene of the abdul ezedi acid attack incident. So we will have an update for the very latest on a deeply concerning incident taking place in clapham. On a slightly lighter note, can you work out whats happening. Here . Get ready happening. Here . Get ready britain. Here we go. Huge claims for sir keir starmer to answer. Thats huge claims for sir keir starmer to answer. Thats. Next. To answer. Thats. Next. Patrick, thank you very much and good evening. Your top stories from the gb newsroom. The Prime Minister says democracy is being targeted by extremists. Its addressing the extremists. Its addressing the nafion extremists. Its addressing the nation outside of downing street this evening. He warned about the situation in britain the Current Situation in britain in the aftermath of the october seventh attacks by hamas against israel. He vowed to back Police Taking action against problem protests, and said universities must also do more to crack down on extremism on campuses. In a statement, the labour leader has backed the Prime Ministers message calling for unity in the country. Rishi sunak signalled the government will unveil what he called a robust framework for deaung he called a robust framework for dealing with the growing problem i we want m we want us to doubt ourselves, to doubt each other, to doubt our countrys history and achievements. They want us to accept a moral equivalence between britain and some of the most despicable evil regimes in the world. Let us prove these extremists wrong and show them that even when we disagree, we will never be disunited from our common values of decency and respect whilst addressing the nation, rishi sunak said the rochdale by election result was beyond alarming. Thats after it was won by George Galloway, the uks leading Jewish Organisation has described the Workers Party leader as a conspiracy theorist who brings division and hate to every place hes ever stood for parliament. During his career, galloway has also presented programmes for both the russian and Iranian State broadcasters. And Iranian State broadcasters. Labour leader sir keir starmer says hell stoke fear and division in. An investigation has been launched after three people were injured in south london following reports of a shooting. A warning the following contains flashing images. Around 5 00 this images. Around 5 00 this afternoon, police said they were pursuing a moped that failed to stop. A shotgun was then fired from the vehicle at clapham common. Police say two people sustained pellet injuries and a third was injured by the moped itself. The suspect fled the itself. The suspect fled the scene. Emergency crews say they treated three people at the scene and took two to hospital. Two of the victims were taken to a Major Trauma Centre in the caphal a Major Trauma Centre in the capital. None of the injuries are thought to life are thought to be life threatening. The cost of the threatening. The cost of the governments rwanda scheme could soar to half £1 billion. Thats on top of hundreds of thousands more for each migrant sent to the east african nation. An investigation by the public spending watchdog found. The spending watchdog found. The millions in additional spending includes £11,000 for each migrants plane ticket 20,000 will be paid to rwanda for every Asylum Seeker whos relocated , Asylum Seeker whos relocated, with more than £150,000 per person to cover ongoing costs. Person to cover ongoing costs. And the uks eurovision entry has dropped. Wont you make me dizzy from kiss . Kiss . Will you take my hand and steady , round and round. Until steady, round and round. Until the moment. The moment. Olly alexander has launched his brand new single dizzy ahead of this years song contest, due to take place in sweden in may. The 33 year old singer has already enjoyed success with his former bandmates in years and years, scoring a combined five top ten uk singles and two number one albums. For the latest stories, you can sign up to gb news alerts by scanning the qr code on your screen. Or you can go to gb news. Common alerts now its back to. Patrick. There has been a big claim today and things could be about today and things could be about to get very serious indeed for the labour leader. Earlier the labour leader. Earlier today, a source contacted me with some astonishing allegations about the alleged conversation between sir keir starmer and the speaker, sir Lindsay Hoyle , as well as the Lindsay Hoyle, as well as the labour chief whip. Just before labour chief whip. Just before the infamous Gaza Ceasefire vote. Earlier today, a source contacted me with some astonishing allegations about an alleged conversation between sir keir starmer and the speaker, sir Lindsay Hoyle, as well as the labour chief whip. Just before that vote. The claim is this that sir keir starmer spoke to sir lindsay before the vote and said that labour mps could be attacked if sir lindsay didnt allow the labour motion that the speaker could have blood on his hands and asked him if he could live with that guilt. The other allegation is that labours chief whip, Alan Campbell , told sir lindsay that campbell, told sir lindsay that he could not rely on the support of labour mps if he wanted to remain as speaker after the next election. Well, look, if this is the case, it could be very , very the case, it could be very, very serious for both sir keir starmer and sir Lindsay Hoyle. Sir lindsay now has 93 mps who have that they have no have said that they have no confidence him, today mps confidence in him, and today mps have written the speaker to have written to the speaker to demand that privileges demand that a Privileges Committee investigate into what happened. That is the other big development. Will just development. So i will just reiterate that today, mps have written to the speaker to demand a Privileges Committee investigate into what happened. So that is the same committee that did for Boris Johnson in that did for Boris Johnson in that investigation. Would determine whether or not sir keir starmer has held parliament in contempt and if he is found to have done so, the committee could recommend and that he is suspended or even expelled from parliament. Now its important to say that whispers of these allegations were mentioned in the media aftermath of that Gaza Ceasefire vote, and they were denied then. Now we have put these exact phrases that i stated earlier on to the Speakers Office directly, and we asked them if they would categorically deny that sir keir starmer they said those things to Lindsay Hoyle and the stuff about the labour whip as well. They said to us, quote, no comment. Labour says they are categorically untrue to many people. However may wish for a proper full inquiry to be the judge of that. It is expected judge of that. It is expected that sir Lindsay Hoyle will not make the decision about whether or not a call for the privileges inquiry will take place because he is obviously caught up in this whole scandal himself, so it is likely that it will be handed over to the deputy speakers make that decision. Handed over to the deputy spea they make that decision. Handed over to the deputy spea they willake that decision. Handed over to the deputy spea they will most|at decision. Handed over to the deputy spea they will most likely ision. Handed over to the deputy spea they will most likely lean. Now they will most likely lean on the clerks for advice. And this another this is again, another interesting this, Interesting Development in this, because the same because these are the same clerks who warned sir Lindsay Hoyle not to cave in to labour over those gaza votes in the first place. And we know that because the clerks published this warned this letter, which warned Lindsay Hoyle that we have to bow down to labour would be a serious break with convention. It is therefore reasonable to expect that the clerks would advise for there to be a Privileges Committee investigation into what went on. It is reasonable to expect that. It is reasonable to expect that. I think this could pose a serious problem for sir keir starmer, for two reasons. Firstly there is not a huge appetite right from mps to remove the speaker and it is likely that they would be very sympathetic if sir Lindsay Hoyle decided to say that he was the major victim in all of this , and major victim in all of this, and that he was put under unbearable pressure by the labour leader. Pressure by the labour leader. The other problem for sir keir starmer is that the allegations put forward by my source today , put forward by my source today, they were initially denied by labour and in fact they have just been denied again in now, very shortly before we came on air, they just told us, quote , air, they just told us, quote, they are categorically untrue. So they are to have not so if they are found to have not been truthful about been entirely truthful about this, would play sir keir this, it would play sir keir starmer very difficult starmer in a very difficult position indeed. Like i said , we position indeed. Like i said, we contacted both the Speakers Office and the labours press office. The speaker has said no comment. Deny everything. Comment. Labour deny everything. Many people may wish for this to be had out at a proper full inquiry, swearing under oath. Lets get the thoughts now of tonights panel. I am joined by the spectators james heal. Ive also got John Sergeant, the spectators james heal. Ive also got John Sergeant , the also got John Sergeant, the ex bbc political chief, and as well apprentice finalist joanna jaflue. Well apprentice finalist Joanna Jarjue. All of you. Thank you jarjue. All of you. Thank you very much. Look, james, ill start with you on this labour is obviously denied everything just now, before came on air. Now, just before we came on air. Do you think that we should have an theres very an inquiry . Theres a very strong it, and i would strong case for it, and i would just that you look how just say that you look at how the speaker has now lost the confidence 93 2009, confidence of 93 mps in 2009, the last time a speaker quit. In these circumstances, it only mps. So we now only took 23 mps. So we now almost three, four times that and i think a lot of mps really are questioning Lindsay Hoyles judgement. And theyre saying to me, one more and hes me, one more misstep and hes out really he handles out really well. If he handles something this, something as badly like this, they think a lot more letters will in that of form will go in in that kind of form and edm like that. And sign the edm like that. So what do you think, joanna . Do should do you think that we should just take starmer word take keir starmer at his word here, categorically here, his team categorically denying people denying everything . Some people might be pointing you know, might be pointing out, you know, bofis might be pointing out, you know, Boris Johnson was denying a lot of we of stuff and that obviously we still through to still get dragged through to a committee dont committee hearing, dont we . Well, dont believe this well, i dont believe this for i think i believe for a second. I think i believe that keir starmer would have had a very impassioned conversation with, obviously with, with the speaker obviously telling and telling him the risks and depending way he depending on which way he he made decision. Dont made the decision. But i dont think a second that keir think for a second that keir starmer would threatened starmer would have threatened him would him and said you would have blood hands, and if he blood on your hands, and if he did, id very disappointed did, id be very disappointed because keir starmer because equally, keir starmer would on his hands would have blood on his hands and because it was his decision to basically push ahead with this and let the snp have this and not let the snp have their if its, you their day. And if its, you know, between life and death and then keir starmer, i would have thought, would have made that decision his mps vote to decision to let his mps vote to the nearest thing. And rather than protecting himself when people kind of basically people are kind of basically being that doing being saying that hes doing this because obviously hes a leader in waiting and obviously hes be able to be hes got to be able to be diplomatic. So i think that , you diplomatic. So i think that, you know, starmer is an know, keir starmer is an upstanding everything upstanding guy from everything that doesnt that ive seen, and he doesnt have a history like people like bofis have a history like people like borjohn, going away. John, this isnt going away. All right. Now the import was too important developments today. The first one now that today. The first one is now that a group of mps have written to Lindsay Hoyle saying that they want the Privileges Committee to investigate this. Now, its expected that sir lindsay will recuse himself from that decision. It will go to the depufies. Decision. It will go to the deputies. Theyll rely on the deputies. Theyll rely on the clerks, those clerks. I mean, clerks, those clerks. I mean, i think its reasonable to expect that they would say, look, lets just clear this up and have this and have this inquiry right. Thatis and have this inquiry right. That is actually really potentially quite a serious situation sir lindsay , situation because sir lindsay, from what can gather , is now from what i can gather, is now becoming more open to the idea of saying i was put under an immense amount of pressure here, saying that he was a victim in all of this. If he says that as an inquiry starmer to go an inquiry and starmer has to go now. Yeah i dont i dont think he can say you know, i was threatened and im so weak and pathetic. Threatened and im so weak and path i agreed. I think that the thing to bear in mind is that all the people involved would know backwards and know the arguments backwards and forwards they know forwards. They would know perfectly that if he agreed perfectly well that if he agreed to make sure to do what he did do, which is to say theres going to be two votes on this, he knew that it was going to be in deep trouble. But i think theres part sir lindsay to in deep trouble. But i think theronlyart sir lindsay to in deep trouble. But i think theronly met sir lindsay to in deep trouble. But i think theronly met him lindsay to in deep trouble. But i think theronly met him briefly, to ive only met him briefly, but theres is theres part of him which is very much. But shouldnt they all have a vote . You know, should all down should they just all calm down and vote now . Its. That and have a vote now . Its. That sounds reasonable. Its kind of sounds reasonable. Its kind of thing which i can imagine would appeal if he said , if he appeal to him if he said, if he said, there has been said, john, if there has been any whiff that keir starmer has walked in there and said he doesnt need to, everyone can know that. Now, what im saying is that if he walks in, hes threatening or hes making his representations, whatever he says will be along those lines. Says will be along those lines. Thats what im saying, is that the argument its you dont need to be spelled out. They dont to be spelled out. They dont need to be sort of. And you dont need to say to him, now, look, you realise if we if we win next election, wont win the next election, you wont be supported. Its too its as if its a courtroom. It isnt. If its a courtroom. It isnt. Its mates who know. Its mates who know. Yeah, i get that. Yeah, i get that. But move around. But we move around. But we move around. Yeah, but we will know categorically if and you categorically if and what you know, making point know, you were making the point as this be under know, you were making the point as wouldnt|is be under know, you were making the point as wouldnt it. Be under oath. Wouldnt it. This is the key thing. Well, this is the key thing. But of course, the challenge thing, difference between thing, the difference between this that boris this and boris is that Boris Johnson on the floor of johnson stated on the floor of the so a record the house. So we had a record there. You he statements the house. So we had a record therein ou he statements the house. So we had a record thereinou parliament, ements the house. So we had a record thereinou parliament, emiwere were in the parliament, we were all filming it, etc. Whereas this was all he said. Said, this was all he said. She said, you doors you know, behind closed doors etc. Thats whats etc. So i think thats whats really mean, i suspect really key. I mean, i suspect this may well go this investigation may well go ahead, but im not sure its ahead, but im not so sure its going ahead, but im not so sure its gohthe ahead, but im not so sure its goiithe in dial with this the shift in dial with this would be, would be. Again, would be, would be. And again, i will stress that the Speakers Office quotes no comment to office said quotes no comment to us. Dont think we should but i dont think we should read that. Dont we read into that. I dont think we should into it because if should read into it because if they come and oh, they did come out and say, oh, keir didnt say that keir starmer didnt say that categorically, then a lot of people be arguing, people would also be arguing, oh, keir oh, look at him. Hes on Keir Starmers side. Jumping to starmers side. Hes jumping to his defence. I think a lot people would his defence. I tpeople lot people would his defence. I tpeople would eople would his defence. I tpeople would say le would his defence. I tpeople would say that, uld some people would say that, well okay, i spin it. I was i was also to say that keir also going to say that keir starmer denies everything, but there no, there we go. Um, but uh, but no, i think would, would have i think it would, it would have kind a lot it go kind of made a lot of it go away, frankly. Wouldnt it. But i its up to rishi sunak. I think its up to rishi sunak. If rishi sunak said, look, i the privately obviously more if rishi sunak said, look, i th if rishi sunak said, look, i th if rishi sunak said, look, i th if rishi sunak said, look, i th if rishi sunak said, look, i th if rishi sunak said, look, i th yeah. So why doesnt he know . Why he. Exactly. So why doesnt he. Exactly. So its this is this is so i mean its this is this is you very close to the you have to be very close to the game know gains and who game to know who gains and who loses. Thats what im saying. But person in but if you had one key person in this case, rishi sunak, that would and all stuff would be it. And all this stuff about and all the rest about inquiries and all the rest of it, were just simply look, onceit of it, were just simply look, once it got to more than 100 mps, once it got to more than 100 mp5, i once it got to more than 100 mps, i think theres a big i think theres a big movable factor this. Factor in this. And is lindsay and that is sir Lindsay Hoyle. If sir Lindsay Hoyle hoyle. And if sir Lindsay Hoyle is is a big if is and this is a big if, if he is and this is a big if, if he is concerned for his is now as concerned for his position as i am potentially led to believe he is okay and to believe that he is okay and he realises that hes out of he realises that hes way out of this is to really say that he was a victim in all of this and that pressure put on that immense pressure was put on him. That is said at him. Then and that is said at any at a privileges any point at a Privileges Committee. That is a very , very committee. That is a very, very difficult situation for keir starmer because whilst he hasnt said things floor of the said things on the floor of the house, hes given Television Interviews said interviews where he said everythings fine and everythings been fine and again, theyve just issued a statement saying they categorically of the categorically deny any of the things that weve put out there. So would be a problem. So it would be a problem. Would be a problem. It would be a problem. I mean, i just dont think well get because i think, mean, i just dont think well gejohn because i think, mean, i just dont think well gejohn says,ause i think, mean, i just dont think well gejohn says, you i think, mean, i just dont think well gejohn says, you know, think, mean, i just dont think well gejohn says, you know, lindsay as john says, you know, Lindsay Hoyle cant make out to hoyle cant make himself out to be but i think, look, be that weak. But i think, look, the issue key weakness be that weak. But i think, look, the keir issue key weakness be that weak. But i think, look, the keir starmer key weakness be that weak. But i think, look, the keir starmer is key weakness be that weak. But i think, look, the keir starmer is that neakness be that weak. But i think, look, the keir starmer is that hesness for keir starmer is that hes seen inauthentic or seen as inauthentic or weak or slippery of this. So if slippery in all of this. So if theres anything that says hes been thing public been saying one thing in public and in private, that is and another in private, that is very damaging from very worrying and damaging from a public perspective. It turns i mean, and if it turns out, i mean, you know, you not worried you know, are you not worried for starmers reputation or for Keir Starmers reputation or this mean, if he was an this i mean, surely if he was an upstanding society upstanding member of society and hes hes hes all by the book and hes got nothing hide, then got nothing to hide, then why wouldnt welcome an inquiry, wouldnt he welcome an inquiry, swear and have it swear on the bible and have it out there . Well, i think that you know, like before, depends like i said before, it depends what so what was actually said. So obviously, that obviously, if a source says that keir for keir starmer threatened, for example, may be that after example, it may be that after a bit investigation they would bit of investigation they would say, crossed say, you know what, you crossed the wasnt to the the line, but it wasnt to the extent of threatening him and saying on saying that hes got blood on his i think when you make his hands. I think when you make it then it it sound that bad, then it becomes, a bigger becomes, you know, a bigger argument it actually is. I think also bear in mind if rishi sunak has decided to, not to rug from under him, to pull the rug from under him, he may want something back. You he may want something back. You see game in westminster is see the game in westminster is always i helped you, you know, there there were nearly 100 mps who wanted you out. I want this who wanted you out. I want this done. Its always useful to have something in the back pocket. And now you may say, well, this is all deviousness. Its called westminster. Its called politics. And also remember, john, of course, this weeks pmqs, you saw hoyle refused saw Lindsay Hoyle refused to interrupt every that interrupt it every time that sort of sunak started sort of rishi sunak started having keir starmer, having a go at keir starmer, who was so perhaps was very muted. So perhaps government lets government is thinking, lets have more muted have a better, more muted speaker who isnt going to intervene. Is get intervene. Well, this is we get to election because theres to the election because theres some of the alternatives, by the way, shocking. Way, are pretty shocking. Well look, watch all right. Well look, watch this it. This space when it comes to it. Again stress we put all again i will stress we put all these allegations to the speaker and party. The and the labour party. The speakers said comment and the labour party. The speakits said comment and the labour party. The speakit came said comment and the labour party. The speakit came to said comment and the labour party. The speakit came to the comment and the labour party. The speakit came to the claim � nment and the labour party. The speakit came to the claim that nt when it came to the claim that keir starmer went in and was very, very forceful about some of the issues that Lindsay Hoyle may have to personally live with. If a labour mp was attacked. And also, of course, attacked. And also, of course, the issue of the allegation that a whip went in and a chief whip went in and threatened lindsay , that labour threatened lindsay, that labour party wouldnt, uh , choose him party wouldnt, uh, choose him again as speaker , uh, they said again as speaker, uh, they said no comment. Keir starmers office have denied this. There are calls now, serious calls and indeed a has gone in to indeed a letter has gone in to have a investigation of have a investigation into all of this. And i think its this. And i think its relatively likely that we will what we get out of this investigation remains to be seen, but its likely that well get anyway. Get the investigation anyway. Coming , shift tone, coming up, a shift in tone, a willy experience gone willy wonka experience gone wrong where dreams wrong has branded where dreams went and our future king went to die and our future king was seen doing shots in wales, but next is this mans rochdale by election win a nightmare for the labour leader keir starmer. The labour leader keir starmer. This is for gaza. This is for gaza. This is for gaza. Well, we will ask his agent, his right hand man, what comes next for George Galloway is he going to be a nightmare for keir starmer . This is Patrick Christys tonight. Were only on. Gb news. Welcome back. Its Patrick Christys tonight only on gb news. Now as discussed Workers Party of britain leader George Galloway overturned a labour majority in the rochdale by election last night. Labour having withdrawn support for their own candidate after alleged anti semitic remarks. Alleged anti semitic remarks. Now, nonetheless, galloway issued a warning for sir keir starmer after his win. You have starmer after his win. You have paid and you will pay a high price for the role that you have played in enabling and encouraging and covering for the catastrophe. Catastrophe. We are presently going on in occupied palestine in the gaza strip. Strip. Yeah, look, during the campaign, George Galloway had said a lot of things. Hes going to make the walls of westminster quake. Subsequently as well to that a little bit later on in the evening, he said that he was primed go. They had primed and ready to go. They had about 59 candidates ready to stand seats , and that stand in other seats, and that they either going just they were either going to just beat labour outright or taking up votes off them, that it meant that anyway. How that they lost anyway. So how big a threat is this for keir starmer . Someone starmer . Lets speak to someone who a little bit who can tell us a little bit more. Hes been at the heart of the George Galloway story for quite good see you. Quite a while. Good to see you. Its yeah. So look its james giles. Yeah. So look is starmers worst is this Keir Starmers Worst Nightmare is this Keir Starmers worst nig yeah. A is this Keir Starmers worst nig yeah. Patrick is this Keir Starmers worst nigyeah. Patrick i really do yeah. Patrick i really do think it is. Think it is. There are swathes of agencies across the country , uh, where across the country, uh, where the Majority Party is, uh, not enough for labour given their current stance. And i think george is right. There are 60. I actually make it about 80 seats. Uh, where an independent, uh, or , uh, workers independent, uh, or, uh, Workers Party candidate , uh, would party candidate, uh, would undoubtedly sway the result significantly. Significantly. Okay. All right. I mean, i suppose the question is, whats george going to do on his first day in westminster . Whats his whats his big speech . Whats going to happen . Whats he got planned . Well, look, uh, its customary for the winner of a by election to be called at the first Prime Ministers questions. Uh, after their win , uh, and i. Uh, after their win, uh, and i fully expect , uh, george to be fully expect, uh, george to be on his feet in the chamber. Uh in his usual manner and style, uh, in there with a bang, uh, to the Prime Minister, rishi sunak, especially after, uh, his , uh, especially after, uh, his, uh, comments this evening. Comments this evening. Uh, well, yes. I mean, we should mention that, actually. So, uh rishi sunak did say, uh, that i mean, im paraphrasing here, but he basically said that George Galloway is not a particularly nice chap and hes an extremist endorsed by an extremist and was endorsed by nick griffin of the racist Nick Griffin British National griffin of the British National party. So he mentioned george by party. So he mentioned george by name um, believe george has name. Um, i believe george has hit back saying that he, he doesnt care much for the Prime Minister either , does he . Whats minister either, does he . Whats georges view on latest that georges view on the latest that rishi sunak has actually had to say him . Then yeah. Well say about him . Then yeah. Well i think georges view he think georges view is he would say he . Say that, wouldnt he . Um, you know, george is a prolific , uh, tweeter, social prolific, uh, tweeter, social media, uh, user and has , uh, media, uh, user and has, uh, several million followers across his platforms. Um, and has hit back resoundingly. He, you know, back resoundingly. He, you know, theres been baseless claims by many people on of, uh, goodness , many people on of, uh, goodness, you know, intimidation, aggression , uh, the only crime aggression, uh, the only crime reported to the police during this by election, uh, were were the case of one, uh, nutter approaching Simon Danczuk , uh, approaching Simon Danczuk, uh, and three of our banners being criminally damaged and stolen in, uh, apart from that, any other claims are entirely , uh, other claims are entirely, uh, baseless and clearly we the people of rochdale , uh, have people of rochdale, uh, have sent george into parliament with a thumping majority. Yeah. I mean, look, im a thumping majority. Yeah. I mean, look, im going to, um , just steer away from to, um, just steer away from some of the claims that im aware that there is an active case involved here. Lets case involved here. So lets just swerve those just lets swerve some of those things. When it comes to things. But um, when it comes to georges potential role in disrupting the labour party, when we had this now absolutely infamous ceasefire for vote, uh, two wednesdays ago now , what two wednesdays ago now, what happened there was arguably keir starmer being saved from a massive labour rebellion. Both front and back bench of. Front and back bench of. According to the guardian, around 100 mps. Well then, if you plonk George Galloway into the middle of those benches and theres another ceasefire vote, which eventually there will be then rebel , could we see then rebel, could we see a situation where a load of labour mps end up siding unashamedly with George Galloway . With George Galloway . Yeah, i think we could, uh, there are swathes of labour mps , there are swathes of labour mps, uh, who agree almost entirely, uh, who agree almost entirely, uh, with what george has to say. Uh on the issue of gaza. But due uh on the issue of gaza. But due to the, uh, authoritarian leadership under sir keir starmer, anyone who dares speak out , even in starmer, anyone who dares speak out, even in the most mild of ways , seemingly get suspended ways, seemingly get suspended from their role in the labour party. Uh, but from their role in the labour party. Uh, but this result, i think, will make every labour mp sit up straight and listen because they know if they dont listen to people , will, uh, will listen to people, will, uh, will come the general election , come the general election, theyre going to be in just a little bit of trouble. Yeah. But the other fact is that keir starmer cant really stand but the other fact is that keito tarmer cant really stand but the other fact is that keito george cant really stand but the other fact is that keito George Galloway. Y stand but the other fact is that keito George Galloway. Y sanyone, up to George Galloway or anyone, can because he is i mean, can he . Because he is i mean, hes been trying to cling to on the political demographic that george is targeting anyway. So i mean, keir starmer cant really come out and slam george canning. Uh, well , canning. Uh, well, you could canning. Uh, well , you could say that, uh, well, you could say that, but lets wait and see. Im sure hell try and find a way. I mean, you would want him to, though, wouldnt you . Is the thing. Thing. Well, no. Look, we want george to be able to present his case in parliament. His views are backed according to the opinion polls, by the vast majority of the british public. And indeed by the vast majority of the public around the world. People want a ceasefire, people want an end to the killing of innocent women and children. And thats a voice in parliament who will advocate more fiercely for that, i think, than any other mp currently on the green benches. Is he going to run to be mayor of london . Do you think . No no. Absolutely not. No. Really. Okay interesting. Interesting. All right. And hes you think hes going to you think hes going to stay on in rochdale or fight the next one as and when we have a general election now hes not got sights on you on a safer seat. Theres you know of bethnal know theres talk of Bethnal Green of these places. Green and all of these places. Hes going to have a bet on hes not going to have a bet on that, is he. No, no i mean look this, uh, i really dont talk of i really dont like, talk of safe myself. No one is safe seats myself. No one is entitled vote. No one party entitled to vote. No one party is entitled. No one candidate is is entitled. No one candidate is entitled. You have to fight for every vote. Um, you know, the every vote. Um, you know, the next election george has already said publicly will be his last time in parliament if hes elected. So the way he sees it, its a fixed terms , potentially its a fixed terms, potentially five Year Contract with the people of rochdale. Okay. All right. And final okay. All right. And final very final question james. Theres there no concern at all about the potential for a relatively and i appreciate that what im about to say could be taken out of context. A relatively militant base here right where people have been accused of , you know, being very accused of, you know, being very agitated about the situation in gaza. Agitated about the situation in gaza. Uh, there have been claims gaza. Uh, there have been claims of, you know, some quite rowdy support for George Galloway. Do you think that maybe there are potential issues there that george has really ramped up tensions as opposed to actually , tensions as opposed to actually, you know, really achieving anything . Anything . Well, the man whos ramped up tensions was azhar ali, who made a series of crank claims as, um, you know, the man, in his own words, made claims that were stupid , false. Uh, these are his words. We respect the Chris Williamson was on was on gb news last night and did i mean it took him all of about five minutes to bring up auschwitz and make a comparison between that going on in that and whats going on in gaza . Said theres gaza . I mean, he said theres more killed more people being killed by israel in, uh, in the gaza strip than, than were , um, than, than were, than were, um, killed, killed every day , if killed, killed every day, if i may, chris lives in derby. Were talking about georges election in rochdale. I was in rochdale every day, uh, bar a few, uh, when i was down here in london. Uh, and i witnessed the campaign firsthand. Any campaign firsthand. Any accusations there was anything intimidatory going on . Frankly is for the birds. And its clearly for the birds. Based on the fact that not a single complaint about any of our campaigners conduct was questioned or complained about. Okay, all right. Look, thank you very much, james. I do hope to talk to you again in the future because this is this is this is going to be big news for a time. The is, you a long time. The fact is, you put galloway somewhere put George Galloway in somewhere and, lot happens and, and, uh, a lot happens a lot happens. Look take care james. The best. Thats james. All the best. Thats james. All the best. Thats James Charles there. George galloway right. Okay galloway agent. Right. Okay coming up next, my panel are here with the liveliest, most entertaining paper of you. You will get anywhere on the telly and important as well to say yes. Um, we will be digging into why there are no women on the ballot in the rochdale by election. Were going to be talking about that. Ive just been reminded in my ear now to also say a very serious story. This. Yes, the on this. Yes, its the latest on this shooting in clapham in this mass shooting in clapham in london. We are going to be giving you up to the minute updates on that as we understand it, about three people have been injured. Look, tuned. Well injured. Look, stay tuned. Well have all right. Its time now to bnng all right. Its time now to bring you a first look at tomorrows front pages. Lets do it. Okay, so we go to the daily it. Okay, so we go to the daily express. Now uh, well beat this poison in a landmark speech, the Prime Minister calls out the shocking increase in extremism, threatening to tear britain apart. He delivered on the apart. He delivered that on the steps downing street earlier steps of downing street earlier today. Paper were today. The next paper were going showing you the going to be showing you is the daily rishi delivers daily mail. Rishi delivers speech. Needed to hear. Speech. Britain needed to hear. This is by Quentin Letts after galloways alarming by election win, the pms powerful and personal attack on extremists trying to tear us apart. Uh, so thats again leading the agenda there. The i well , theres a there. The i well, theres a theme here, starmer tells uk. Theme here, starmer tells uk. Im sorry about galloway. Um, im sorry about galloway. Um, labour leader apology rises to the voters of rochdale. Obviously again rishi sunak giving his speech a bit earlier on. Lets go to the mirror. Gerrys texts turmoil, husbands flirty chats go viral as shes en route for show of solidarity. En route for show of solidarity. She asks awkward isnt it gerry horner was flying to join her husband christian, in bahrain when apparently the alleged flirty tax, uh, emerged. The flirty tax, uh, emerged. The daily star. Why the long face cops deployed a giant six foot, two inch farting horse to wipe the smile off thugs mushes. And yet again, the daily star cover the story that everyone really wants to hear. Okay and look, before i go to my panel on that, i do want to bring in, i believe , our Home Security editor, mark white, uh, who is going to be telling us the very latest when it comes to a concern thing. And as i understand it, ongoing incidents in cockpit mark, thank you very much. Great to have you on the show. So what is the latest in whats happened in clapham . Please well , more clapham . Please well, more violence on the streets of the capital tonight. An incident that unfolded at rush hour in clapham. Uh the rush hour in clapham. Uh the south side of clapham , where south side of clapham, where police were in pursuit of a moped with two suspects on board. Now, according to scotland yard, this moped had failed to stop. We dont know why they were trying to stop that particular motor head, but they were in pursuit of it. Then at one point, uh, one of those on board the moped apparently fired whats believed to have been a shotgun , uh, towards, we been a shotgun, uh, towards, we think , towards the pursuing think, towards the pursuing officers. But it actually missed. And managed to, uh, go through a pub window. The bellevue pub in that area , at bellevue pub in that area, at least one person, possibly two inside the pub , were injured, inside the pub, were injured, suffering, suffering shotgun wounds. Another person was injured outside on the street, struck by the moped. Now the struck by the moped. Now the injured have all been taken off. Three people have been taken to hospital, two of them to a major trauma unit. Hospital, two of them to a major trauma unit. Uh, but we believe at this stage that the injuries are not life threatening, but a very serious and worrying incident. There was a very Significant Police and ambulance and other Emergency Services response to this. As you would expect , right in the heart of expect, right in the heart of russia in a busy area of london, concern , of course, that this concern, of course, that this may have been terrorist related. The latest im hearing from sources is that it wasnt a terror related incident. We can notch it up to yet more Violent Crime in the capital, and that will pile more pressure on the london mayor, sadiq khan, whos already been criticised of late, with him passing a grim milestone with a thousand People Killed in the capital. Uh, since he , uh, became the mayor of he, uh, became the mayor of london, mark wyatt. There are Home Security edhon there are Home Security editor. Look, thank you very, very much, mark. Great to see you. Great to have you on the show. Yeah. Concerning events there clapham, it there in clapham, although it does thankfully appear not to be terror related. Little terror related. Very little consolation people consolation to all of the people injured, but lets injured, of course, but lets tackle now an inside story. So its regulars , its one of our regulars, Allison Pearson. She was on my show last night and she was on our by election coverage last night pointing night as well. She was pointing out that there women on out that there were no women on the in rochdale. All the ballot in rochdale. All three of female mps that we three of the female mps that we do have need extra security due to heightened security concerns since the gaza attacks, the concern that Allison Pearson was sharing was another idea about whether or not women in certain communities, i. E. The Muslim Community. Lets be honest with what she was saying there. Uh are going to have enough democratic representation. And certainly when it comes to things like postal votes, if youre very patriarchal home youre in very patriarchal home lives , are you always voting the lives, are you always voting the way that want . Allison way that you want . Allison pearson issue very, very pearson is an issue very, very close heart. Uh, joanna, close to her heart. Uh, joanna, do you think that we do have enough women in politics . You enough women in politics . Do you think to some think when it comes to some of these were seeing these areas that were seeing now, rochdale or where it now, like rochdale or where it is specifically designed get is specifically designed to get the muslim vote , the quote unquote muslim vote, is that going to be an issue when it comes to standing female candidates . Think potentially. But i do think that, um, you know, look at the house know, when we look at the house of 35 of mps are of commons, 35 of mps are women, and i think that its at a record high now that weve ever more than a third of ever had more than a third of the house of commons and being women. Is rising. But women. So it is rising. But at the same time, its not exactly 5050, so theres 5050, is it . So theres still a lot of to do, but at the lot of work to do, but at the same time, i think it will same time, i think that it will be, difficult for be, uh, extremely difficult for a woman of colour to be in politics. I actually studied politics. I actually studied politics at uni, and by the end of it i looked at all the female of it i looked at all the female of colour and how theyre treated , and i thought, no, im treated, and i thought, no, im not doing it. You know, i think not doing it. You know, i think in 2019, uh, a black woman mp, uh, got 90 of all online hate. Uh, got 90 of all online hate. So youve also got to look at the wider ecosystem of how female politicians are treated, whether theyre white, black or asian, but also female politicians of minorities , how politicians of minorities, how theyre treated as well. So its so basically its tncky so its so basically its Tricky Enough as it is would be my takeaway from that. And if we are adding certain things about, you know, additional pressures, were trying to appeal to the, the maybe more hard line elements of the british Muslim Community. Do you think that could for female could pose a problem for female representation or not . Representation in john or not . Well, the area well, i think the whole area is difficult , well, i think the whole area is difficult, and is extremely difficult, and theres no doubt that more and more women mps are saying how difficult their lives have been. Difficult their lives have been. And now we hear that theyre given special protections. It given special protections. So it does look as if the situation is not getting better, which it seemed for such a long time. The other happened other thing thats happened is that labour have made quite clear general clear that in this general election, they will not be having shortlists. Having all women shortlists. Yes. So that was that was a point that made such a difference. That was a point that was made last night actually, which is that labour have had all female shortlists and then its something thats almost quite, i think which think conspicuous, which is that they not it, theyre they are not doing it, theyre not doing it. Because think they not doing it. Itsecause think they not doing it. Its against think they not doing it. Its against the ]k they not doing it. Its against the law]ey not doing it. Its against the law now. Think its against the law now. Well has changed, but they well law has changed, but they certainly didnt do it in rochdale. Would takeaway what would your takeaway be for think i think for this, do you think i think in some ways we can be looking at the end here, which is at the wrong end here, which is that on one we that on the one hand we can obviously with obviously provide mps with female, with bodyguards, you know, bodyguards. Them all the protection give them all the protection they want. But actually thats not of looking the not kind of looking at the issue, which are the issue, which is who are the people out kind people putting out this kind of hate perpetrators, etc. Hate and the perpetrators, etc. And i think the full force of the be brought down the law needs to be brought down on not about on them. So its not just about protecting from protecting the women from anything like of anything like that, like sort of abuse, have to sustain abuse, etc. That have to sustain any of that. But its also about finding rooting the finding out, rooting out the people putting out. Yeah people who are putting out. Yeah look and look online and offline and finding one the finding them. I think one of the points that Allison Pearson was making of the making was none of the candidates female. Making was none of the canlasttes female. Making was none of the canlasttes when]ale. Making was none of the canlasttes when you do look last night when you do look around, rallies around, a lot of these rallies that we seeing from the that we were seeing from the likes galloway, etc, likes of George Galloway, etc, there not a amount of there were not a huge amount of women crowd either. It there were not a huge amount of wonan crowd either. It there were not a huge amount of wona very, crowd either. It there were not a huge amount of wona very, veryowd either. It there were not a huge amount of wona very, very male ither. It there were not a huge amount of wona very, very male dominated was a very, very male dominated thing. Of things thing. Is that a sign of things to come . Bring why bring it up why bring it . Why bring it up now . Is what irritates me now . This is what irritates me when theres a big issue like this, dont want this, because people dont want to be called racist, but all know. A sudden now we know. But all of a sudden now we want know, want to be feminists. You know, when women are being when these women are being called, letterboxes called, you know, letterboxes and that, people and things like that, people like jump like Allison Pearson dont jump to but its to their defence. But when its time cheek shot at the time to give a cheek shot at the muslim to basically Muslim Community to basically say know, theres say that, you know, theres a patriarchy im patriarchy there, im sure im sure Allison Pearson not here sure Allison Pearson is not here to would to defend herself, would say that been proud that shes always been a proud supporter of womens rights. Now time for a very now its time for a very quick video. What on earth now its time for a very ngoing video. What on earth now its time for a very ngoing on lideo. What on earth now its time for a very ngoing on. Deo. What on earth now its time for a very ngoing on. Here . Ihat on earth is going on. Here . Okay, so that man there, uh, thought that it would be better to haul his body up the handrails than walk on a stairway painted with the pride flag. Read into that, whatever flag. Read into that, whatever you will look. Coming up, we have our panellists give their greatest britain and Union Jackasses, with one nominee being the rochdale by election runner up, soon to be a household name. No doubt, is david tully. And of course we david tully. And of course we will also be showing you exactly what went wrong. Acas dystrophic willy experience. Ill willy wonka experience. Ill seen a sack all right. Okay. Welcome back. All right. Okay. Welcome back. Now we just go to a couple more of your front pages. Lets do it. We have got the daily telegraph, democracy under threat pm urges nations to come together against the poison of right wing and islamist extremism. Um, and the other extremism. Um, and the other story at the bottom there is defence spending, budget must rise. Shapps told hunt. Next we have got the times. Banish this hatred from our streets, implores pm. You know what, look, nothings going to happen, though, is it . Tomorrow were going see the marches rishi going to see the marches rishi sunak as laid down the gauntlet to police officers, saying we will to police. These will back you to police. These marches, manage them. Marches, not just manage them. What are we going to see tomorrow . Exactly the same stuff. Anyway , lets go to stuff. But anyway, lets go to the sun. Jerrys sacks taxed flight mass, spice, mid air. The sun. Jerrys sacks taxed flight mass, spice, mid air. As flight mass, spice, mid air. As great as messages went global, right . Okay, so look, basically, we know that theres been this scandal with the formula one. Uh bigwig. And apparently hes been sending sacks and those sexts allegedly were published whilst jerry was mid flight. And we cant have that. The guardian democracy is under threat from extremists, says rishi sunak. And a bit there on navalnys funeral, thousands brave threats of arrest to say goodbye to navalny. All right. Okay, so navalny. All right. Okay, so those are your front pages, right . Im joined again by my press pack. Of course. Got john. Sergeant, weve got joanna jaflue sergeant, weve got Joanna Jarjue and weve got jane hill. Now look, the front pages there have been quite heavy. Weve also done rishi also done done a lot on rishi sunak and what he said earlier on. So i just thought i would bnng on. So i just thought i would bring people something. Its a friday another friday night after all. Another little video. So a willy little viral video. So a willy wonka appearance in glasgow for families turned into a dreadful day out with uninspiring props, lacklustre surroundings , no lacklustre surroundings, no Golden Ticket atmosphere , thats Golden Ticket atmosphere, thats for certain. For certain. Im not joking. For certain. Im not joking. Paid £40 im not joking. Paid £40 a ticket for this smell. Expected castle and the worlds. And i bet we have to worlds. And i bet we have to pay worlds. And i bet we have to pay for that food over there. Pay for that food over there. Uh, these are like, um , the uh, these are like, um, the photo books. They are . They are . They are . Yeah, literally just a warehouse. They paid money to go to a willy wonka immersive experiences, a warehouse and some terrible actors. It reminds me a little bit of a certain Winter Wonderland experience that where the elves that people had, where the elves were outside smoking cigarettes , were outside smoking cigarettes, santa was drunk, and the reindeer just an alsatian reindeer was just an alsatian wearing but lets take wearing antlers. But lets take another look at, uh, at another viral Prince William viral video. Now, Prince William has been and about in wales has been out and about in wales today , and hes been the today, and hes been on the shots. Just as much as this is shots. Just as much as this is much easier for a shot before walls whisky. Thats a better idea. I like thats a better idea. I like the shot. The way he was shot. The shot. The way he was shot. Ill good luck, good luck. Cheers cheers. Cheers cheers. Okay, so william appears to be to be bouncing back. Good to be to be bouncing back. Good to see him out and about getting on the shots. You know, i suppose you could be toasting harrys latest defeat, couldnt he . Yeah. And marking saint davids appropriate davids day in the appropriate style. Say that davids day in the appropriate stylewas say that davids day in the appropriate stylewas the say that davids day in the appropriate stylewas the most say that davids day in the appropriate stylewas the most appallingly pint was the most appallingly poured ever seen. Its poured ive ever seen. Its enough to make you into a republican. I think republican. You know, i think the they ought to do the first thing they ought to do tomorrow him up to how tomorrow is train him up to how pour a proper pint, him pour a proper pint, train him how pint. How to pour a pint. Concerns john, and the work concerns john, though, werent there because harry out of well, harry had to pull out of well, or of king or did pull out anyway of King Constantine the seconds Memorial Service due to personal reasons, been reasons, kates still not been seen while. They reasons, kates still not been seen a while. They reasons, kates still not been seen a statementile. They reasons, kates still not been seen a statement earlier� y reasons, kates still not been seen a statement earlier on issued a statement earlier on saying, oh look, weve told you that shes well, off. That shes not well, back off. But the problem but i think the problem with that that they did that for me was that they did tell us that the time frame weve frame weve exceeded the time frame really, that hinted that weve exceeded the time frame realwill]at hinted that weve exceeded the time frame realwill]at backhinted that weve exceeded the time frame realwill]at back outed that weve exceeded the time frame realwill]at back outed trabout she will be back out and about now. She will be back out and about novso, theres no end to so, yeah, theres no end to this. I mean, there comes a point where if you said, okay, lets into more detail about lets go into more detail about the cancer , then dont the kings cancer, then i dont know to do. Can we know what we ought to do. Can we interview one of the doctors that you go on that treats him . Can you go on doing we check how doing this . Can we check how much chemotherapy had . The much chemotherapy hes had . The questions endless. So questions would be endless. So wherever theyve got to, in terms of transparency, wherever theyve to in terms of lets theyve got to in terms of lets be straightforward about illness, comes a point illness, there comes a point very quickly, as weve seen , very quickly, as weve seen, where in fact, youve got to bnng where in fact, youve got to bring down say, this bring it down and say, no, this is a private matter. Were not going to give you what they say in number 10 all the time. No running commentary. And is running commentary. And that is correct got to correct. And people have got to expect that they will not know in great detail about all these things. Says for things. If somebody says for personal reasons, not going personal reasons, im not going to is personal reasons, im not going to that is is personal reasons, im not going to that is it. Is it. That is it. I would like to see william and kate and all of the rest of the family treated exactly the same as how they treated meghan the family treated exactly the sam harryiow they treated meghan the family treated exactly the sam harry when ey treated meghan the family treated exactly the sam harry when theyeated meghan the family treated exactly the sam harry when they were meghan the family treated exactly the sam harry when they were working and harry when they were working royals. I think its got to a point where harry has used point now where harry has used so scapegoat that now so much as a scapegoat that now william basically william can basically do whatever you and whatever he wants, you know . And im saying hes not im not saying that hes not going through really difficult going through a really difficult situation. An if harry had situation. An but if harry had cancelled engagement, situation. An but if harry had cancelled like]gagement, situation. An but if harry had cancelled like thatzment, situation. An but if harry had cancelled like that memorial an Something Like that memorial an hour before and then was taking shots the next day, harry wasnt even give out an even allowed to give out an award the awards without award at the nfl awards without him being called him apparently being called insensitive. I would just insensitive. So i would just like a little bit of accountability. And i think accountability. And i think that, you know, now is that, you know, william, now is kind you know , the kind of riding, you know, the wave of the fact. I dont think that, i mean, hes down, hes downs cancer. Downs got cancer. Clearly very ill. His wifes clearly very ill. His wifes clearly very ill. Im not saying that hes and im not saying that hes done wrong. Not done anything wrong. Im not saying know, saying that, you know, him taking personally taking the shot has personally offended like offended me. What i would like is for him not to feel as relaxed enough, to kind of feel as if he can kind of do whatever without. Yeah of accountability. I mean, some people might say, well, the second that i mean, some people might say, w i mean, some people might say, w greatest britain david neal, greatest britain, please, mate . Sackedt britain david neal, greatest britain, please, mate . Sacked indiann david neal, greatest britain, please, mate . Sacked indian dependental, the sacked indian dependent independent inspector of borders and immigration who forced the government to publish his reports on the failings , the reports on the failings, the really bad failings of our immigration system. So theres someone who did good. All right, so mine is tracy brabin. The wonderful mayor of West Yorkshire, where im from. She hosted the convention of the nonh hosted the convention of the north yesterday and today i was there. Its amazing. And shes there. Its amazing. And shes been advocating for Better Outcomes for people and businesses in the north. And thats what we need. Actual real levelling up. Thats what i actually saw there today. Good. Actually saw there today. Good. And michael gove no okay, fine. And michael gove no okay, fine. A pack of lies today. All right okay. Go on. All right okay. Go on. Uh, mine is the man who finished second in the rochdale by election. Uh, david hull, well respected local businessman who i think was the voice of real, the conscience of rochdale and im sorry, finished second. And i hope he stands again and wins next time. All right, well, your is david tully. Your winner is david tully. There we go. Yes although i must say the West Yorkshire was it mayor. Yeah tracy. Tracy. Yeah it was a close, close second on that one. Can i just say i wasnt having an outburst about michael gove . Its because he did a speech today and Angela Rayner did. But look you would not be the first on this to first person on this show to have outburst about michael have an outburst about michael gove. Right have an outburst about michael gove. Jackass. Right have an outburst about michael gove. Jackass. Were right have Union Jackass. Were gonna have to these quickly how. fl fl jackass david collins, Union Jackass david collins, a headteacher academy, a headteacher of noel academy, kent, allowed of 13 to kent, who allowed girls of 13 to wear eyelashes at his wear false eyelashes at his School Grounds that he school and the grounds that he gave that they might refuse gave was that they might refuse to go to the school if they werent wear false werent allowed to wear false eyelashes. And these kids are eyelashes. And these kids are 13, Goodness Sake , get a 13, for Goodness Sake, get a grip. Yeah, serious questions there. Go on john, up mine is rishi sunak. I think this might be the third time for being a massive hypocrite coming out on his podium and preaching when he doesnt practice what doesnt even practice what he preaches comes his preaches when it comes to his own being own party and people being racist and extreme. Oh, strong stuff again, just loving it out there, right there. And for me, its billy cole who the organiser of that who is the organiser of that absolutely terrible glasgow willie wonka and willie wonka experience. And i think for me this the this is the gift that keeps on giving. And i look forward to seeing many more pictures of this terrible many more pictures of this terri le think the bottle on i just think the bottle on that guy to go, right, this is rubbish. I mean, there bit rubbish. I mean, there was a bit of just a woman of it where it was just a woman hit behind a mirror and then she comes anyway, right . Your comes out anyway, right . Your Union Jackass today is the incredibly that incredibly ropey teacher that decided he wanted 13 year decided that he wanted 13 year old girls to wear fake eyelashes at his school. Okay. All right , at his school. Okay. All right, guys, thank you very much. I really enjoyed the panel this evening. Ive really enjoyed being with you week. Will being with you this week. I will see monday morning. No, being with you this week. I will see doing monday morning. No, being with you this week. I will see doing breakfast morning. No, being with you this week. I will see doing breakfast on rning. No, being with you this week. I will see doing breakfast on sunday 0, being with you this week. I will see doinitseakfast on sunday 0, being with you this week. I will see doin its headliners sunday 0, being with you this week. I will see doinits headliners. Unday o, anyway. Its headliners. A brighter outlook with boxt solar sponsors of weather on. Gb news. Good evening. Welcome to your latest gb news weather update with me, annie, from the met office. This further hill snow to come for Northern Areas throughout tonight and through saturday, and its going to be staying uk staying cold across the uk through the weekend. Low pressures much in charge. Pressures very much in charge. Weve got some occluded fronts wrapped around low pressure wrapped around that low pressure system thats the system and thats where the focus heaviest rain will focus for the heaviest rain will continue throughout continue to be throughout tonight so persistent rain tonight. So some persistent rain will to snow over parts of will turn to snow over parts of southern scotland and then into northern scotland. Northern areas of scotland. Later on tonight. Then later on tonight. And then another of rain will push another batch of rain will push into areas of england, into southern areas of england, bringing a risk of some hill snow but anything that snow here. But anything that does to accumulate should does start to accumulate should quickly melt the temperatures quickly melt as the temperatures rise after sunrise. But it will still be quite a cold start to the weekend , wherever you are. The weekend, wherever you are. Some quite persistent rain will continue central and continue across central and eastern areas of england and then southern scotland then into southern scotland later the day, and well later on in the day, and well also see rain turn to snow also see this rain turn to snow across the far north of scotland, particularly over the highlands saturday highlands through saturday afternoon. Therell quite a afternoon. Therell be quite a brisk northerly breeze across northwestern areas, bringing that feel. In that chilly feel. And in fact itll actually still feel fairly cold out there for many areas. Turn drier throughout saturday night, so should be a much night, so it should be a much dner night, so it should be a much drier day on sunday. Therell still be some mist and fog around and a few showers across western coasts, but i think it will much pleasant will feel a much more pleasant in sunshine with lighter in the sunshine with lighter winds more the way winds and a bit more in the way of sunny weather. Of sunny and dry weather. However, across east coast however, across the east coast there some rain moving however, across the east coast theat some rain moving however, across the east coast theat times some rain moving however, across the east coast theat times looks] rain moving however, across the east coast theat times looks like] moving however, across the east coast theat times looks like it]oving in. At times it looks like it will into the start of will stay cold into the start of next week, temperatures do next week, but temperatures do start tuesday start to rise from tuesday onwards. By warm feeling onwards. By that warm feeling inside from boxt boilers , inside from boxt boilers, sponsors of weather on gb news. Good evening. Your top stories from the gb newsroom. Stories from the gb newsroom. The Prime Minister says democracy is being targeted by extreme artists addressing the nafion extreme artists addressing the nation outside downing street this evening, he warned about the Current Situation in britain in the aftermath of the october 7th attacks by hamas against israel. He vowed to back police, israel. He vowed to back police, taking action against problem protests and said universities must also do more to crack down on extremism on campuses. In a statement, the labour leader has backed the Prime Ministers message calling for unity in the country. Rishi sunak signalled the government will unveil what he called a robust framework for deaung he called a robust framework for dealing with the growing problem i want us 5mm want us to doubt ourselves, to doubt each other, to doubt our countrys history and achievements . They want us to accept a moral equivalence between britain and some of the most despicable regimes in the world. Let us prove these extremists wrong and show them that even when we disagree , we that even when we disagree, we will never be disunited from our