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Youre watching gb news across the uk on tv in your car, on Digital Radio and on your Smart Speaker by saying, play your Smart Speaker by saying, play gb news. This is britains news channel crossing live now to Saint Austell in cornwall. To Saint Austell in cornwall. Good evening. Im to Saint Austell in cornwall. Good evening. Im joining you live from cornwall this evening. Were going to be discussing international issues, cornish issues and national issues. And one issue that affects absolutely everybody is whether they have a bank account or not, because without one, you become a non person. You simply cant function. Ive been campaigning on this, as you may well know , on this, as you may well know, since the middle of summer. Since the middle of the summer. I like to think with some effect. The National Westminster bank board met today and we know their figures will be released. Their quarterly figures will be released at 7 am. Tomorrow morning. We havent had morning. We havent had a statement at all out of the natwest board. You know, the natwest board. You know, the natwest board, thats the natwest board, thats the natwest board, thats the natwest board that insisted that Dame Alison Rose should stay in position. One despite leaking position. One despite leaking the details of my banking situation to the bbcs business correspondent. Now thats saying natwest board must have found themselves in a bit of a pickle today because the ico report that was released last night from the Information Commissioners Office said that, yes. Alison rose had very clearly broken the law. So weve clearly broken the law. So weve heard nothing at all. Were also waiting for the Travers Smith report. This is the so called independent report that will be put into the whole saga. And its coming from a firm whos emeritus chair, chris hale has described brexiteers as racists and xenophobes as so we can look fonnard to a jolly independent report, cant we . Ive seen the report, cant we . Ive seen the report , ive read the report. Report, ive read the report. Im not really allowed to say whats in it, but i dont think its going to actually bear much fruit. You see what really matters in a situation like this is not just the ico who did say that they wouldnt take action until the report had been released. So im going to keep the pressure on them, but also the pressure on them, but also the financial conduct authority. These are the people running Financial Services in this country, which affects every single individual, rich and poon single individual, rich and poor. And they seem to be more concerned over the last few years with pushing issues such as diversity and inclusion, own, of course, Climate Change more than actually worrying about whether people have got proper Financial Services, including banking. So well find out more banking. So well find out more at 7 am. Tomorrow morning. You at 7 am. Tomorrow morning. You may be thinking that maybe nigels getting a bit obsessive about this. Well, you know what . Theres a Million People whove had their Bank Accounts removed over the course of the last few years , and many, many of them years, and many, many of them Small Businesses that have struggled horribly since. But at struggled horribly since. But at the end of this year, they will struggled horribly since. But at the eclosedhis year, they will struggled horribly since. But at the eclosed three ar, they will struggled horribly since. But at the eclosed three out hey will struggled horribly since. But at the eclosed three out of will struggled horribly since. But at the eclosed three out of fivel have closed three out of five high branches around the high street branches around the country. Many of them almost dont want to take cash that comes from local businesses. This fight is not just for me. This fight is not just for me. This fight is about a fairer, freer society. And you know something . Im going to keep on something . Im going to keep on fighting because i will not let them get away with it. Okay, now them get away with it. Okay, now. The situation in in the middle east becomes graver by the day. East becomes graver by the day. Lets go straight to tel aviv to join gb news security editor mark white. Mark, good evening. Mark white. Mark, good evening. So last night, as i understand it, the first most serious israeli incursions into gaza. Israeli incursions into gaza. What scale was that actually. On . Well, pretty significant. The largest incursion into northern gaza since the war began in with dozens of tanks , bulldozers used dozens of tanks, bulldozers used to break through that border fence to allow those tanks and soldiers into gaza. This was an soldiers into gaza. This was an operation that was aimed at taking out hamas defensive positions. So when that eventual positions. So when that eventual ground war takes place , then ground war takes place, then hopefully there will not be as many traps waiting for the Israeli Defence forces. But they Israeli Defence forces. But they know, listen, when they go into gaza, its going to be very difficult , very gaza, its going to be very difficult, very and a Long Campaign in and its been quite an eventful day here in tel aviv as well. Today we had two very large rocket barrages into this city, the fourth large rocket barrage into tel aviv in just three days. We had to go to the shelter a couple of times, just to give you a flavour of what it was like. Just want to play you a little bit of the sound and the pictures of the sirens going off in central tel aviv. Take a look at this. Oh. Oh, oh. And look at this. Oh. Oh, oh. And you know , nigel, this is really you know, nigel, this is really quite a remarkable system. The alert system and the iron dome system that the israelis have because its so precise that actually rockets can come in to the south or the east of tel aviv and the alert doesnt come off here in central tel aviv, but it does go off if they are targeted specifically at your location , as they were twice location, as they were twice today. And we know that although the iron dome Missile Defence system is incredibly accurate, it doesnt get everything. And it doesnt get everything. And when you get a very significant barrage coming in like we did the last few days, two rockets did make it through this struck apartment blocks. Four people were injured last night. Another building was very badly damaged today. Luckily, no one was today. Luckily, no one was injured. There. Injured. There. Mark, you know what i see on the International Stage , given the International Stage, given that were now told there have been 7000 people that have been killed in gaza , were told, you killed in gaza, were told, you know, by reputable news sources that many of them are children in, is that we see from the european union, the united nations, everyone there, even the countries that most strongly tend to support israel , are tend to support israel, are beginning to get slightly nervous. Are the israeli nervous. Are the Israeli Government beginning to feel a little bit lonely. Little bit lonely. Well, i dont think theyre feeling lonely quite yet, but theyre absolutely aware. Nigel that it was always going to be the case this that a couple of weeks on from this absolutely horrific attack that took place on october the 7th, that the images coming out of gaza would be the images that would then dominate the news agenda. Hamas knows this as well. Hamas is well used to putting its rocket launchers and other terrorist infrastructure right among the civilian population here. So when israel responds bonds to the rockets being launched here towards israel , then often towards israel, then often civilians are caught up in that. And there is a heavy toll. But that very cynically plays into the hamas playbook as well, because they know they get the International Community then piling the pressure on israel, calling for a ceasefire where israel is adamant there will be no ceasefire. They are determined to get into gaza at some point. There is, we believe, a delay in the ground war to allow the americans to get their Missile Defence systems up and running around the region because they know therell be retaliatory attacks not just on israel, therell be retaliatory attacks notjust on israel, but therell be retaliatory attacks not just on israel, but on israels allies, but once that is in place, is israel will go ahead, to according the Prime Minister, with this ground war. And their stated aim is to destroy hamas. And they need to do it. They know they need to do it on the ground, nigel, because of the fact that were still getting very large barrages of rockets coming over shows you that theres still a capability , that theres still a capability, a capacity with hamas and you can only really deal with that by going in and dealing with them on the ground. Them on the ground. Mark white thank you, as ever for your report direct from tel aviv. And mark is right. Of course they have to win the ground war. The problem is that in gaza, for much of this will be an underground war. We understand that hamas has built over 300 miles of tunnels. We over 300 miles of tunnels. We also understand from witness evidence that that is where the hostages are being held to. Doesnt matter who you have fighting an underground war in gazais fighting an underground war in gaza is going to be pretty horrendous for both sides. I horrendous for both sides. I havent changed my mind, folks. Havent changed my mind, folks. I think whatever the historical rights and wrongs of this, i think what happened on the 7th of october was truly shocking and ghastly in every way. And i find it absolutely reprehensible that there are so many people in our country who refuse to condemn that. So i think that condemn that. So i think that actually netanyahu has very little option. He has to go and try and take out hamas. I get that. I just fear that, as i hinted with that question to mark white a moment ago, that as the death toll in gaza rises and as we see the break up, sadly , as we see the break up, sadly, of the Abraham Accords negotiated by the trump government and the fact that saudi arabia was very close to become part of that club , i just become part of that club, i just fear and worry that israel will find itself actually becoming increasingly isolated on the world stage. Thats my big fear for israel as we go ahead from here. As i say, the history of it is the history of it. None of us can change any of that. We all, perhaps emotionally take sides. But what happened on the 7th of october in israel was truly shocking. In a moment, were going to talk all things cornwall including second homes. Rich londoners coming down, buying up the entirety of seafronts. What does it mean for local People Living in cornwall . But more importantly, what can actually be done about it . See you in a couple of minutes. Radio. Well, here we are back in Saint Austell. Were joined now by david haig. And david is a human rights lawyer who spent many years living in the middle east. But important that but far more important than that to crowd. Hes cornish to this crowd. Hes a cornish pansh to this crowd. Hes a cornish parish living in parish councillor living in penzance. David, lets begin penzance. David, lets begin with cornwall. You know, i have with cornwall. You know, i have noficed with cornwall. You know, i have noticed over the years that ive been travelling down here, i do see more cornish flags and see a lot more cornish flags and i hear people saying to me, they talk about england, but which they mean over the tamar that funny lot that live over the tamar. But people really do now, you know, i think only about 3 of cornwall are genuine. Cornish of cornwall are genuine. Cornish separatist, but but the important point is that weve now got this Unitary Council in cornwall with some degree of devolved powers. Theres even talk of a mayor perhaps. I mean, is devolution. I mean, i was in is devolution. I mean, i was in wales last night where it seems to me devolution is actually working out rather badly. Is working out rather badly. Is there a real demand for devolution down here . I think i think certainly theres a theres a theres a campaign. There was always a campaign. There was always a campaign. I think it was ten years cornish were years ago that the. Cornish were granted protected nation status by europe , as im sure youre by europe, as im sure youre familiar with. And but what has been done since . So been done with that since . So i think everyones very you know, i mean, wasnt here, so i mean, i wasnt born here, so ill as proper. Ill never be classed as proper. Cornish be cornish i think you need to be generations that. Generations to do that. But i went to school here and i think theres definitely a national an identity here, a language you live. Language live. Yeah, a language. Youre still not. Cornish and youre still not. Cornish no, never, never. Never, never. Never, never. Very high bar. Never, never. Its very high bar. Never, never. Its ververy h bar. Never, never. Its ververy high. Never, never. Its ververy high bar. Its very, very high bar. But, you know, i think we need to that the national to use that the National Identity that weve and identity that weve got and actually something with it. Actually do something with it. And done the last actually do something with it. Andyears, done the last actually do something with it. Andyears, not done the last actually do something with it. Andyears, not very ne the last actually do something with it. Andyears, not very much. He last actually do something with it. Andyears, not very much. You ast ten years, not very much. You know, down know, if you if you live down here, lot friends here, which a lot of my friends that school are that i went to school with are here, problems, here, many, many problems, whether mentioned whether its you mentioned earlier, housing, earlier, whether its housing, second homes, things like that causing , causing problems, jobs, investment. Many more investment. Theres so many more important whether or important things than whether or not we want to be an independent nafion not we want to be an independent nation , as it were, i think. Nation, as it were, i think. But nothing wrong with the cornish flag. Great flag, nothing being proud nothing wrong with being proud of it is very of the county. And it is a very beautiful thats the beautiful county. And thats the problem, isnt it . Its got this amazing landscape and seascape, andits amazing landscape and seascape, and its attractive for all sorts of outdoor pursuits. Yes. Sorts of outdoor pursuits. Yes. And as london in the last few decades has got relatively so much richer than the rest of the country, people have come here on holiday. I rather like that house. I could buy that for a houday house. I could buy that for a holiday home. Or we could just spend a few weeks a year here holiday home. Or we could just speryou few weeks a year here holiday home. Or we could just speryou understand year here holiday home. Or we could just speryou understand whyir here holiday home. Or we could just speryou understand why people and you understand why people would you know, and you understand why people wot kids you know, and you understand why people wot kids want you know, and you understand why people wot kids want go you know, and you understand why people wot kids want go surfing now, and you understand why people wotkids want go surfing orww, the kids want to go surfing or they to, you know, walk the they want to, you know, walk the Cornish Cliff path, whatever it may be. Now, were to may be. Now, you were saying to me before we came air that me before we came on air that you living lamorna, you were living in lamorna, where the was literally where the place was literally like in the winter. Like a morgue in the winter. Thats the is, well, thats the thing is, its and curse. You its a blessing and a curse. You know . Beauty is we know . I mean, the beauty is we all have lot of all live here. We have a lot of people for tourists. People coming in for tourists. But live in a little but you know, i live in a little place very, place called lamorna, a very, very picturesque fishing village. And village. And one lady died and literally one literally all one of my neighbours died. And all the cottages, single one on cottages, every single one on the seafront was either a second home a holiday let and then home or a holiday let and then that in the summer its fine. I mean, you dont know who your neighbours are, but keeps neighbours are, but it keeps changing. The winter neighbours are, but it keeps cha ajing. The winter neighbours are, but it keeps cha a ghost the winter neighbours are, but it keeps cha a ghost town. The winter neighbours are, but it keeps cha a ghost town. Localinter neighbours are, but it keeps cha a ghost town. Local pub its a ghost town. The local pub closes shops, closes the garage, the shops, the dont the schools. Then you dont have Children Community dies and children, the community dies and but then how do resolve but then how do you resolve that . Because its an impossible but then how do you resolve thavery cause its an impossible but then how do you resolve thavery difficults an impossible but then how do you resolve thavery difficult. An impossible its very difficult. Well, theres good and bad everywhere this everywhere i went out this afternoon, earlier into mevagissey and produced this little , talking about a little film, talking about a couple these issues , couple of these issues, including housing. And very including housing. And its very relevant what just relevant to what weve just discussed. There. Discussed. There. We are traditional Cornish Pasty , which is great here in pasty, which is great here in mevagissey in the rain. Trouble mevagissey in the rain. Trouble is, even here, that shop was card only. What is going on . Dont kill cash so mevagissey was really made on the back of the cornish pilchard , or we call the cornish pilchard, or we call it the sardine today. But the fishing industry here now has had a real boom, a real boost. You can see fishing boost. You can see some fishing boats a lot boats behind me, but a lot of them and them are out right now. And guess tuna , guess what . Theyre after tuna, bluefin tuna last ten years in a row, huge numbers of tuna coming into these waters , giving a lot into these waters, giving a lot ofjobs into these waters, giving a lot of jobs for local people , of jobs for local people, anglers coming down, paying to catch , tag and release them. But catch, tag and release them. But for the First Time Since we left the european union, weve now got a commercial licence. And the seeing now in the fish youre seeing now in these landed here these pictures were landed here in mevagissey just yesterday. In mevagissey just yesterday. The tuna boom is really good news for cornwall. Well, look at news for cornwall. Well, look at it. Its beautiful, isnt it . The houses are great, but theres a problem. Its happening all over cornwall. Happening all over cornwall. Rich londoners, look at these properties and think, ah, id love to have one of those as my houday love to have one of those as my holiday home, meaning that for locals live becomes locals to live here becomes really, well, just really, well, not just difficult, impossible. Difficult, frankly, impossible. One thing mevagissey has got right is behind the village up on the hill. Theyve built a whole load of new housing, Affordable Housing for local people only. And that means you come to this harbour, you come to this village and its pubs in the winter and its and the winter and its shops, and theres of real theres still a sense of real cornish community. Unlike padstow, which in the winter is now literally devoid of anybody. And its a real challenge for local councils everywhere. How local councils everywhere. How do you deal with the influx of money . You want the money during the tourist season , but you also the tourist season, but you also need somewhere local people need somewhere for local people to live. So there are two to live. So there are two answers to this. David i think. One is that is that you double Peoples Council tax , which may Peoples Council tax, which may be happening for the next year or you quadruple all council tax on second homes, but the other approach is the mevagissey approach is the mevagissey approach , where build approach, where you build housing say only local housing and you say only local people buy these houses, people can buy these houses, shouldnt, shouldnt this new Unitary Authority here in cornwall be doing a bit more of that . Yeah, absolutely. I mean , you yeah, absolutely. I mean, you know, whats happening at the moment isnt working. I mean, moment isnt working. I mean, when at the friends when i look at the friends that i to with, know, i went to school with, you know, ive and living ive even got friends and living in their parents in bell tents in their parents gardens because they cant afford rents, which afford either rents, which are extremely now or a extremely expensive now or a house. So something needs to be done been done. And done and its not been done. And thats the issue. And we also need see, know, need need to see, you know, we need to wages people to increase the wages of people in as make the in cornwall as well as make the houses more available and cheapen houses more available and cheaper. Bring cheaper. But we need to bring investment cornwall investment into cornwall so the wages up as wages of the people go up as well. Are things that well. And those are things that are being done and do need well. And those are things that ar be being done and do need well. And those are things that ar be done. |g done and do need to be done. No, theres a needs be no, theres a lot needs to be done. Good done. The tuna boom is good news. A brexit benefit. We werent to catch tuna as werent allowed to catch tuna as members european union. Members of the european union. Now are. And our commercial now we are. And our commercial quota at this stage is very small compared to the french and spanish, but it is certainly out of season. Very good news for cornwall. David, you live for cornwall. David, you live for ten years in the middle east. Youve got friends on the israeli conflict , israeli side of the conflict, friends on the other side of the conflict. Where do you think we conflict. Where do you think we go from here . Yeah, it really is one of those impossible situations. I mean, what happened in israel a couple of weeks ago is absolutely terrible. You know, absolutely terrible. You know, and hamas are terrorists. Im and hamas are terrorists. Im not the bbc. Im more than happy to say it. Oh, the bbc wouldnt say that. So, you know, but you know , so, you know, but you know, its because, its a problem because, you know, you said, i mean, know, like you said, i mean, i trained at a jewish law firm and i middle east for i lived in the middle east for ten seen both ten years. So ive seen both sides. And there are arguments on sides. Terrorism on both sides. Terrorism is never. Of Never Acceptable. Loss of civilian never civilian life is Never Acceptable we resolve civilian life is never accand ble we resolve civilian life is never accand thats we resolve civilian life is never accand thats the we resolve civilian life is never accand thats the problem. Olve it . And thats the problem. Youve got so many others. You know better than the players in either proxy wars going either side and proxy wars going on. Think a very on. I think its a very difficult situation for us all in the world now, we need to in the world now, and we need to we watch very carefully. We need to watch very carefully. Said i just sense, as i said earlier, i just that earlier, i just sense that as the casualties mounting gaza, the casualties mounting gaza, the international for the International Support for israel will will were israel will will and were seeing it already, you know, calls. Ours is calls for ceasefire. Ours is beginning to diminish. I just feel that israel is going to find tough find itself in a very tough position. Theyre position. But then theyre surrounded mean, surrounded by people. I mean, hamas one of them, hamas being one of them, that literally want to wipe them off the earth. The face of the earth. Absolutely. Youve absolutely. And but youve got dynamic got this new new dynamic now. Youve got other countries that have relations. Have normalised relations. Youve seen arab countries normalise with with normalise relations with with israel, we didnt have israel, which we didnt have before that actually israel, which we didnt have beforeto that actually israel, which we didnt have beforeto were hat actually israel, which we didnt have beforeto were going tually israel, which we didnt have beforeto were going tuasee going to were going to see Something Different because of that . Said , i that . I mean, but like i said, i have i think one of the have to say, i think one of the reasons for the iranian sponsored is sponsored hamas attack is because of the success of the uae and israel normalising relations. You know, tourism , um, trade you know, tourism, um, trade investment , saudi you know, tourism, um, trade investment, saudi arabia about to join. I think this was this was deliberately done. I agree. Was deliberately done. I agree. I think to break this up. David, a final point. When i came out in the summer, as it were, as being debunked , lots of other being debunked, lots of other people well, weve people said, well, weve been debunked it, too. And then i found happened a vast found it had happened to a vast number people. You two have number of people. You two have been i havent i e e before, know, because and before, you know, because it a dirty it was almost like a dirty little came little secret until you came back didnt tell anybody. Yeah, because i dont care. I just know. Just say what i know. Im unembarrassable. No, im unembarrassable. No, im unembarrassable. Had accounts i mean, i had my accounts closed to closed for a connection to a middle eastern princess that i helped. You know the time. Helped. And, you know the time. You dont want to talk about it because it does seem like a dirty secret. Then dirty little secret. But then youve something dirty little secret. But then youwe something dirty little secret. But then youwe can something dirty little secret. But then youwe can talk something dirty little secret. But then youwe can talk someso ng dirty little secret. But then youwe can talk someso we that we can all talk about so we can all come out as de banking. So you for that. Can all come out as de banking. So well, you for that. Can all come out as de banking. So well, ill you for that. Can all come out as de banking. So well, ill keepu for that. Can all come out as de banking. So well, ill keepu for thll well, ill keep going. Ill go the campaign. Go on with the campaign. David. Thank you. Keep up the great work councillor here work as a local councillor here in moment itll in cornwall. In a moment itll be barrage de farage where the members of the public will take members of the public will take me on. I better get myself ready radio. Okay, its time for barrels to farage here in Saint Austell in cornwall. Cornwall. And our first questioner is 714 year old georgia. Now you know, i dont know what theyre going to ask me. I promise. This is not staged. Georgia go for it i so as one of the youngest members in the audience and wanting to pursue a career in the royal air force, how would you win my vote in support of the military . The military . Well, its a terrible thing, isnt actually, isnt it . But that actually, historically , we think itll be historically, we think itll be the conservative party that will be strong on defences and itll be strong on defences and itll be the labour party that will be weak on defence. And actually many times in the last 50 years its always other its always been the other way round. We have seen a really round. We have seen a really very disturbing decline in the number of personnel that we have in all branches of the armed forces. In some elements of it, forces. In some elements of it, very bad morale, you know, good people leaving the three services. And thats a disaster for georgia. There are two for georgia. There are two things here. Its very easy to say money is the solution. Its very easy to say , you know, we very easy to say, you know, we should be 3 plus of gdp spent on defence. And in terms of nato, thats important because america has been paying its way and our friends in europe havent. But its not just about spending money, its about how you spend money. And i do honestly think that in just so many, whether its the nhs or whatever it is , we can spend whatever it is, we can spend huge amounts of money and actually get poor levels of delivery for that money. So i cant wave a magic wand at this , cant wave a magic wand at this, but i do think i do think weve treated our forces pretty badly. And after 13 years of conservative government , i and after 13 years of conservative government, i feel were much weaker than we were before. But youre going to join still . Yeah, fully. Yes, sir. Yeah, fully. Yes, sir. And what do you want to be . A pilot engineer or what . Whats your plan . Pilot , sir. Pilot, sir. Pilot, sir. A pilot. Georgia. You go for it. The very. Best okay, it. And the very. Best okay, paul. It. And the very. Best okay, paul. Good it. And the very. Best okay, paul. Good evening. Hello, nigel. Hello, nigel. In 2002, the bbc ran a pro tv programme and poll for the 100 greatest britons. Number one was greatest britons. Number one was churchill and number two was isembard kingdom brunel. If the bbc was to run the same programme now, who do you think would be number one . Wow wow. I would be number one . Wow wow. I think i, i think. Would be number one . Wow wow. I think i, i think. I think think i, i think. I think despite what many would want you to think and the attempt to really destroy churchills reputation, which weve seen going on at a number of levels, quite extraordinary. I still think it would be churchill and i think nelson probably would be isembard kingdom brunel. I think nelson would come second. And i mean, what was your thinking . My thinking would be churchill because what he did and how we have our freedom today is through that man yes, absolutely. I agree with you. The time. Thank you. The time. Thank you. The time. Thank you. Yeah. No and you know , you yeah. No and you know, you know, black lives matter or whoever it is can damage these statues in london. But i dont think the Great British public have changed their minds, paul, one little bit. Lets go to carol. Good evening, nigel. Welcome to cornwall. Thank you. Do you to cornwall. Thank you. Do you think its time to finish the Remembrance Service and the march past at the cenotaph where our Prime Ministers pass and present both their heads in respect when they are giving away our country . Shame on them all. Well, carol, you know , its well, carol, you know, its very easy to criticise us. Any government at any time. I felt government at any time. I felt myself when i was a lot, lot younger that we were kind of giving our country away to europe piece by piece. And our indian pendants and our rights of Self Government and indeed, i felt , you know, of Self Government and indeed, i felt, you know, much of Self Government and indeed, i felt , you know, much of of Self Government and indeed, i felt, you know, much of what wed perhaps sacrificed in previous generations. So i felt that, look, you can like politicians, you can dislike politicians, you can dislike politicians as we do, still live in something of a democracy, though id like to see the electoral system changed and much else. But overall, i mean, its quite interesting , its quite interesting, actually. I think that Remembrance Day services, whether it be at the cenotaph or around the rest of the country these days, theyre pretty well attended. You know, people do actually care about this stuff. Actually care about this stuff. And whilst afghanistan and iraq were absolutely awful, i think the fact that so many young people got killed or maimed, reconnected us with this concept of sacrifice and what going to war actually means. So no, i wouldnt scrap any of the services and love him or hate him. Id services and love him or hate him. Id still let the services and love him or hate him. Id still let the ex prime him. Id still let the ex Prime Ministers attend. And im ministers attend. And im sensing , carol, you would take a sensing, carol, you would take a rather harsher line. Rather harsher line. Yes. I just think there are a lot of hypocrites. They say one lot of hypocrites. They say one thing, bow their and thing, bow their heads and respect those young men respect all those young men that died are doing to died. And what are they doing to our country . What they fought our country . What they fought for dad was for freedom. My dad was a prisoner of war three years. Prisoner of war for three years. Yeah. He say if he yeah. What would he say if he was living now . Well well, carol, youre probably going to get quite a lot of sympathy for that view in the room just want room that people do just want somebody something. Somebody to do something. It was once said , you well, it was once said, you know, we it was said before that we that we get the politicians we that we get the politicians we deserve. We get the we deserve. We get the politicians that we vote for. But but well, there is some truth in that under the system. We have my i, i still believe personally that if we change the electoral system, wed get some different kinds of people reaching the top of the tree. Reaching the top of the tree. And, you know , thats what and, you know, thats what i thats what i would passionately like to see. But and do you approve of the poppy having no plastic in it . No, i do not. Well, ill go. On ill be well, ill go. On ill be wearing mine from tomorrow. Wearing mine from tomorrow. Carol, thank you. Ill be wearing mine for tomorrow. The wearing mine for tomorrow. The theres always this debate about when you should start wearing a poppy and when you should start wearing a poppy. And some people wear them very early and others. And ive normally worn them from the 1st of apparently the of november. But apparently the royal say we Royal British legion say we should from the should wear them from the last friday in october. So im going to put my poppy on tomorrow in accordance with the Royal British okay number four british legion. Okay number four is elmers. Elmers good evening. What is your take on the cost of the energy price to working class people . Like in my case, class people . Like in my case, my bills rose rose from £800 per year to over 2000 due to sanctions on russia. Is there any chance of this going down soon before the old and the poor have to decide if to have fuel or food on the table . Thank you. Or food on the table . Thank you. I think thats an issue that directly really scares and i mean scares millions of people. Mean scares millions of people. I agree. I saw a piece in the business section of todays Daily Telegraph after the last round of auctions for wind farms in the north sea failed because the government werent paying a high enough price, according to the people that want to provide wind energy. And one of the biggest firms said, we need 70 more, a 70 increase in the electricity price the government pays to us build more wind farms. And i think elmas this is one of the biggest rackets the more we go for renewables , the more we go for renewables, the more we go for renewables, the more were told were saving the world and the higher our bills become because your bills are loaded with subsidy to pay our renewal obligation weapons certificates. So i you know, i dont want to us go back to, you know, burning really filthy coal, you know , and all the rest coal, you know, and all the rest of it. I dont want us to do that. But i think theres a balance to be struck. And i just think that the net zero strategy this country is being taken down by politicians of all parties. They all seem to agree. I think they all seem to agree. I think people like you were picking up the price for it. And i think i think theres going to be a political backlash some political backlash at some point. Well, we definitely are picking up the price. Yeah. How do i mean , do you feel about it . I mean, uh, poor , poor, poor. Yeah yeah, uh, poor, poor, poor. Yeah yeah, yeah. No, no. Elmos you are not a walk around the supermarket, walk around any shop, walk , go walk around any shop, walk, go and fill up your car with petrol or pay your gas bill or whatever. Everything has gone through the roof. Yeah. Have pensions gone through the roof . Yeah. The last i looked. Last time i looked. Yeah. Yeah. No, its a very fair and worries a lot fair point and it worries a lot of you. Thank you. Of people. Thank you. Thank you. Okay. And finally , kevin. Kevin, okay. And finally, kevin. Kevin, good evening. All right, so how can we get the government to provide retirees, nhs dentistry . It is a real issue here in the southwest east and a lot of people still havent got access to an nhs dentist and we need to get it. So that everyone in the country has access to an nhs dentist in their local town. And dentist in their local town. And you know, when i was looking on there earlier today , it there earlier today, it southampton was one of the closest places either that or the scilly isles to get a dentist with the nhs. Now i did. We miss and my family had an nhs dentist in newquay just around the corner and that went on for some years. It was perfect, but some years. It was perfect, but kevin sent me a letter. Well, kevin sent me a letter. Well, im tempted. Im tempted to say what nhs dentists is because they dont really exist anymore. I get your really exist anymore. I get your point. I really exist anymore. I get your point. I had a former boss of the British Dental Association on the show last year and he said dentistry cant win you general elections, but it might help to lose you general elections. And theres already great disquiet about getting gp appointments. Thats become harder and harder and harder with dentistry. All i can tell you honestly, kevin, at the moment there is no government plan to reverse it, no government plan to reverse it and therefore what you have to do, were back to really omars point is you have to pay for it andits point is you have to pay for it and its an awful lot of money at a time when people are hard up. I wish i could give you a magic it. Cant. Magic bullet on it. I cant. Its very low down at the moment. Political priorities, but it should be a lot higher. And kevin, i understand your frustration. Thank very much frustration. Thank you very much indeed okay. Moment, it indeed. Okay. In a moment, it will be time for talking pints and i will be joined by England Rugby legend. But more important for this audience. Cornishman. Yep absolutely. Phil vickery will be here in just a moment well, i mean , i know hes a bit well, i mean, i know hes a bit of a cornish legend and a bit of a rugby hero. And of course, he was part of a winning world cup team. Phil vickery , welcome to team. Phil vickery, welcome to taoiseach kwasi. Im going to taoiseach kwasi. Im going to take that. That was for me, that was all. Now i know i know. It was all for you. Absolutely no, it really was. And well, very to good now. Phil, you know, cornwall farming for family. Its really a huge part of you , its really a huge part of you, isnt it . Well, it was you know, its very much Foundation Stone well, it was you know, its ve me, uch Foundation Stone well, it was you know, its ve me, really. Foundation stone well, it was you know, its ve me, really. You ndation stone well, it was you know, its ve me, really. You know,n stone well, it was you know, its ve me, really. You know, i stone well, it was you know, its ve me, really. You know, i grew� of me, really. You know, i grew up a family farm just up in up on a family farm just up in bude, just north of which bude, just north of bude, which my i still farms my brother and i still farms with i just came with his family. And i just came across rugby i to across rugby when i went to comprehensive , didnt do comprehensive school, didnt do the juniors thing. Was the mini juniors thing. That was kind unheard of. Kind of unheard of. But i guess when you grow up in a farm, i guess the family have got you working from a very young , i probably young age actually, i probably shouldnt say this, but i will. Young age actually, i probably sho mynt say this, but i will. Young age actually, i probably sho my father this, but i will. Young age actually, i probably sho my father actually i will. Young age actually, i probably sho my father actually i will it my father actually made it very to play very difficult for me to play rugby because couldnt rugby because he couldnt understand why you wouldnt be working a saturday. You working on a saturday. And, you know , and that was, you know, know, and that was, you know, you were doing you need you were doing this and you need to a saturday. And of to work on a saturday. And of course, with course, i fell in love with rugby and through my teens. And then wanted play that then i wanted to play and that bude down redruth bude and i went down to redruth and, i was on my and, you know, i was on my journey. Then i got into the journey. Then i got into the School System mum taking me School System and mum taking me everywhere not liking everywhere and dad not liking it. Well, no, you know, i, i it. No. Well, no, you know, i, i had a relief milkman had to get a relief milkman to milk saturday for milk the cows on a saturday for me rugby. Me to go and play rugby. And that a way that says and that in a way that says something family something about small family farms, it . Think those farms, doesnt it . I think those that engaged that are not engaged or understand the farming community, it is a blimmin tough life. And one thing that farmers are is resilient. And one thing that farmers are is resilient. And and one thing that farmers are is resilient. And yes, are is resilient. And yes, theres huge issues around farming wellbeing and farming with wellbeing and mental health, with the pressures around listening to food prices and energy prices. Food prices and energy prices. Yeah, it hits. Theres no winners here. Well, apart from big but theres no big corporates, but theres no winners this. But as a winners in this. And but as a child you as soon as you could do something, you did something. And if your job to stand do something, you did something. And i1back job to stand do something, you did something. And i1back lane to stand do something, you did something. And i1back lane andto stand do something, you did something. And i1back lane and the. And do something, you did something. And i1back lane and the hole in down back lane and the hole in the hedge when you were drenching sheep day and that is what you did , you stood there what you did, you stood there and even but even silly things, you look back now and people they say you cant compare being a sportsman with farming. A pro sportsman with farming. I said, well, because said, well, you can because every up every day youve got to get up and go , theres no i dont feel and go, theres no i dont feel like it. Tomorrow or its dark, its wet, its freezing. The its wet, its freezing. The electrics gone out. Its boom every day, relentless. Repeat over and over and over. And what was it . What was the quality, think made quality, do you think that made you good at rugby . Quality, do you think that made you probably rugby . Quality, do you think that made you probably being quality, do you think that made you probably being told that probably being told that i cant something because im cant do something because im a cantankerous, awkward, stubborn. Cant do something because im a cant yourous, awkward, stubborn. Cant do something because im a cant you dos, awkward, stubborn. Cant do something because im a cant you do havekward, stubborn. Cant do something because im a cantyou do have thati, stubborn. Cant do something because im a cant you do have that reputation. Yes, you do have that reputation. But i just fell in love. For me, the rugby was a sideshow. I fell in love with rugby for once. You know, i was the big kid at school. Without getting too deep about was big too deep about it. I was a big kid picked last kid at school, got picked last for most things. Five a side for most things. Five a side football. I was always a goalie because by just by default i field half of it, you know. So but , but i field half of it, you know. So but, but i took it anyway and it was a simple thing. Actually. It was, was teacher, pe was, it was a teacher, the pe teacher school. When i went teacher at school. When i went there, it was mr obe actually taught my father and i said, sorry, said, dont know sorry, sir. I said, i dont know how to rugby. Hes put his how to play rugby. Hes put his arm and he dont arm around me and he said, dont worry, ill show i got worry, ill show you. And i got involved really positive. Involved was really positive. It didnt break me down little didnt break me down a little bit. Spirited he nurtured me and just gave me confidence and suddenly its like, wow, camaraderie. The boys together, singing song. Camaraderie. The boys together, singing song. We are from bude. Singing song. We are from bude. This is us went down to bude rugby club. Same thing. Welcome. Come in. Yeah, come on. We werent any good. We were rubbish. But. But you know, we are from bude and we are the best, you know . And it was that club. It was the emblem, it was the badge to be part my town the badge to be part of my town and represent that me and to represent and that for me was important. But then was hugely important. But then when thinking about when you start thinking about cornwall, when you start thinking about corr know, fishermen, miners is you know, fishermen, miners is passion. Trelawnys army for 15 pieces of gold in that badge. You know, we are from cornwall, the song i just i fell in love with that and yes, my career and what it did and going up to gloucester, very similar very you know, working class city gloucester passionate , you know, gloucester passionate, you know, love you and hate you at the same time, which i kind of loved about it. And then i went on into england with, well, mean, into england with, well, i mean, you know, you played many, many over 70 caps england. Over 70 caps for england. You were there at and you were there at a penod and you were there at a period when England Rugby was right at the top, a golden , you right at the top, a golden, you know, a golden era. Know, i was very, very you know, i was very, very privileged be part of that. Privileged to be part of that. And you know, around some incredible people. But led by some people to and some incredible people to and 2003, obviously a very special moment. Yeah. Yeah yeah. Yeah and ironically, ill talk about 2003. Its so crazy. My about 2003. Its so crazy. My little life is so mum was the person who took me everywhere in our little fiesta. 1. 1 popular plus up and down, you know. How did you get in it . I know everywhere. Everywhere. And sadly, my mum didnt come out to australia for the final, but my dad actually rang me and bearin but my dad actually rang me and bear in mind, dad had only watched me 5 or 6 times in my whole rugby career and which not because he didnt want to. He was just happy at home. Busy was just happy at home. Tv busy working and dad came out to the final and he and he flew out. But at the time you couldnt get tickets or the flights and the planes were all booked up and he came dad was there. Came out and my dad was there. Of course, two thousand and of course, two thousand and it didnt quite and seven, it didnt quite happen. And the happen. But no. And you had the honour of leading, you know, captaining country, which honour of leading, you know, capta amazing country, which honour of leading, you know, capta amazing courtou which honour of leading, you know, captaamazing courto captain. Honour of leading, you know, capyour|azing courto captain. Honour of leading, you know, capyour countrycourto captain. Honour of leading, you know, capyour country is1rto captain. Honour of leading, you know, capyour country is1rtcincredible your country is an incredible thing. And for me, actually, two thousand although we thousand and seven, although we didnt actually means didnt win, it actually means more because we lost 36 more to me because we lost 36 nil against south africa in in the pool stages. And we were being the worst rugby team ever. Being the worst rugby team ever. I accidentally kicked somebody and got banned for a couple of games and accidentally , well, it games and accidentally, well, it was either be kicked or score a try. So i took i took the i took the right option. But to come back into fight. And i remember for me the special moment was and this is for me what the love of sport in marseilles in of sport was in marseilles in the quarterfinal against australia. They were down to australia. They were down to beat us and of course they were. And stood up to counted and we stood up to be counted and was great determination, and it was great determination, honoun and it was great determination, honour, pride and honour, passion, pride and thats what done it. And then suddenly france in paris, i dont need to be encouraged against france because i grew up watching south west television blocking the tunnel up, not taking our beef, bullying our fishermen. And, you know, i grew fishermen. And, you know, i grew up watching you your abinet, you know, and to beat beat france know, and to beat to beat france in paris. Its funny. Go back to i played the 99 Rugby World Cup and say what do you and people say what do you remember that . Tell and people say what do you rem the yer that . Tell and people say what do you rem the one that . Tell and people say what do you rem the one thing hat . Tell and people say what do you rem the one thing lat . Tell and people say what do you rem the one thing i remember you the one thing i remember we played south africa in the quarterfinal paris. We got quarterfinal in paris. We got knocked out by danny dyer, five drop goals. And what do you remember that so remember about that game . So what . Was whatever what . I remember it was whatever england in in the stadium england fans in in the stadium was by british beef inside and ill never forget that brilliant well. On the theme of beef on well. On the theme of beef on the theme of beef, you were known as a rugby player as raging bull, which i think jake lamotta, the boxer, had before. Lamotta, the boxer, had before. But i mean, you know, phil, there you are. You know , your there you are. You know, your rugby career is over. Great career. Its over. And suddenly youre winning masterchef. Youre winning masterchef. Yeah, well, i know. Yeah, well, i know. Yeah, well, i know. How does this happen . How does this happen . Well, to be honest, nigel, i didnt go to on win it. Ive always watched the show. Id always watched the show. Id always loved food. I grew up around food farm house, kitchen and baking pies, and cooking, baking pies, pasties, quiches , flans, tarts, pasties, quiches, flans, tarts, buns, saffron buns, splits. It was just all happening. So i loved food. We had our own loved food. We had our own gardens. Granddad was my person. He was a guy who looked after us, really growing and nurtured. Im a herdsman, so im. I love tractors because im a farmer, but im a herdsman. I like that nurture and food is part of it. Yes being a pro sportsman, food becomes very transact. It becomes very transact. It becomes very transact. It becomes numbers, amounts. But becomes numbers, amounts. But when im cooking, it doesnt matter whats going on in the world. Im cooking and i use it. Its a bit of therapy more than anything. And i finish and they asked me to come on and you know, classic with the know, the old classic with the researchers the girls and researchers for the girls and boys researchers come boys and the researchers come they you. They want to find out about you. And after about and you realise after about a minute know more and you realise after about a minutnyou know more and you realise after about a minutnyou than know more and you realise after about a minutnyou than you know more and you realise after about a minutnyou than you knowv more and you realise after about a minutnyou than you know about about you than you know about yourself. Know. And it was an yourself. I know. And it was an amazing to amazing thing to do. I love and youve and i love it. And youve gone there youve and i love it. And youve gon sports there youve and i love it. And youve gonsports brandsre youve and i love it. And youve gonsports brands and youve got sports brands and restaurants and i mean just amazing thing. And but food farming and rugby are, though very different, are actually very similar. Yeah. Yeah its communities coming in coming together, celebrating. What do we celebrate with drink, good dnnk we celebrate with drink, good drink and food. Yeah. Drink and food. Yeah. Conversation that is rugby really banter fun , you know. Really banter fun, you know. Yeah. Thats what farming is. What was. What was a kitchen . It what was. What was a kitchen . It was an office. It place of was an office. It was place of celebration. I think its brilliant. Youve so much. Brilliant. Broughtjve so much. Brilliant. Brought soe so much. Brilliant. Brought so much so much. Brilliant. Brought so much to so much. You brought so much to everything done, and everything youve done, phil and i this crowd really i reckon this crowd have really loved thank you. Loved having you. Thank you. Thank you joining me. Thank thank you for joining me. Thank you. You very. Now. Haha you very. Now. Haha it is that time you very. Now. Haha it is that time. Now. Haha it is that time. Now. Haha it is that time. I dont know how these boys do it, but balance spurling every single time its a new song. Take it away guys. As. 600 song. Take it away guys. As. 600 pagesis song. Take it away guys. As. 600 pages is a finally here they tried to close him down, but heres a word in your ear 1 1 way or another , its gonna find way or another, its gonna find you. You. Its gonna get you, get you, get you , get you. Nigel. Its get you, get you. Nigel. Its gonna find you. Its gonna get you. Its gonna get you get you get you get. You said that. Bhng get you get. You said that. Bring him down on a peg or two. They thought theyd throw a milkshake. They havent got a clue because this is nigel. Hes gonna find you. Hes gonna find you. Hes gonna get you. You hes gonna get you. You really didnt think it through , really didnt think it through, didnt you . Natwest you try the bank, but you really aint worth a ball. Please hey, hey, hey. A ball. Please hey, hey, hey. Its all that you say. Just its all that you say. Just how it is you tried your luck, and i. And you says just as it is. But you and i. And you says just as it is. But you really came and i. And you says just as it is. But you really came unstuck. Is. But you really came unstuck. Its not. You always on the ball night. Night. Who said i put on a subject access request to natwest bank night. You said just imagine the poor darlings natwest nine to says milkshake cake for a ride. Says milkshake cake for a ride. Good evening. Its alex burkill here with your latest gb news weather forecast. It could be a bit foggy for some of us tonight, but there is further wet and blustery weather to come through the rest of the week. Through the rest of the week. Low pressure sitting just to the west of the uk is bringing a showery blustery theme many showery blustery theme to many parts uk. However, its a parts of the uk. However, its a front across the north east thats already brought persistent rain for some here and will continue to do so across eastern parts of scotland. Overnight cloud towards eastern parts of england will lower, bring some murkiness , lower, bring some murkiness, some fog for some here and elsewhere. Spells allowing elsewhere. Clear spells allowing for develop , for some fog patches to develop, too, but temperatures not dropping a huge amount overnight. Holding overnight. Many places holding up in single digits. Overnight. Many places holding up in single digits. So up in high single digits. So some fog, some mist around first thing on friday morning. That will clear, persistent thing on friday morning. That will continuing lear, persistent thing on friday morning. That will continuing acrossersistent thing on friday morning. That will continuing across easternt rain continuing across eastern parts of scotland, likely to cause some further issues. Othennise its a day of showers for many starting off around western and southern coastal parts, but spreading inland as we go into the afternoon. And some them could heavy, some of them could be heavy, possibly thundery with possibly even thundery with temperatures around average for the year, of the time of year, highs of around celsius south, around 15 celsius in the south, around 15 celsius in the south, a bit cooler than this a little bit cooler than this further staying showery as further north staying showery as we go through into saturday. And some of showers could some of those showers could still times, most still be heavy at times, most likely towards the south east where likely to see some where were likely to see some impacts those. Also more impacts from those. Also more rain across eastern parts of scotland totals really scotland, totals really continuing up as we go continuing to build up as we go through weekend. More through the weekend. 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