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Government is pushing for a pause in fighting there, rejecting calls for a full ceasefire, saying it will only help hamas. The Prime Minister says they want to create a safer environment for citizens trying to leave the bombarded strip and allow aid to reach palestinians as its after israel launched its biggest incursion into gaza with tanks temporarily entering the territory and fighter jets hitting over 250 targets, the Health Ministry in hamas controlled enclave says the death toll from israeli strikes has passed 7000. That includes almost 3000 children were told. Arab nations have released a joint statement condemning what they described as the forced displacement and collective punishment in gaza. Israel punishment in gaza. Israel maintains its targeting the terrorist group, but Palestinian Foreign minister riyad al maliki says the bombardment wont stop until the whole strip is destroyed. Destroyed. This time , the war that this time, the war that israel is waging is different. This time , the war is a war of this time, the war is a war of revenge. That. War this time, the war is a war of revenge. That. War this war has revenge. That. War this war has no real objective rather than the total destruction of every liveable and corner place in gaza. In the us, a manhunt is undennay after up to 22 people were killed by a gunman. Police in the state of maine have named 40 year old robert card as a person of interest, describing him as armed and dangerous. Local media is reporting hes a trained firearms instructor and also a member of the us army reserve. The shootings occurred reserve. The shootings occurred in at least two locations, owns a restaurant and a Bowling Alley in the city of lewiston. Businesses have been asked to close and people told to shelter in place. Department of Public Safety commissioner Mike Sauschuck says officers are working around the clock to find the suspect. The suspect. 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Each poppy sold raises money to support veterans and serving personnel. To this and serving personnel. To this is gb news across the uk on tv in your car, on Digital Radio and on your Smart Speaker by saying play gb news. Now lets get back to. Patrick get back to. Patrick get foreign nationals in britain who support terrorism on the first plane out of here. And if the human rights brigade wants to block that plane on the tarmac, well, they can get gone as well. Why is that controversial . Why. Heres controversial . Well, why. Heres the data released today. The latest data released today. Nearly three quarters of people think foreign nationals who think that foreign nationals who glorify terrorism glorify islamist terrorism should be deported from the uk. Thatis should be deported from the uk. That is an ovennhelming majority of people. The controversial view should be keeping them here. The controversial view should be trying to help bring them back to britain, like in them back to britain, like in the case of shamima begum. In fact, when you really look at the numbers, 74 of people agreed that foreign terrorist supporters be removed supporters should be removed from uk. 4 disagreed and from the uk. 4 disagreed and 22 said they did not know. So just for would keep them here. Im sure plenty of you listening to this now are thinking that perhaps they should have their hard checked and you hard drives checked and you would not alone thinking would not be alone in thinking that. But before the usual types on social media start banging on me about how this is some kind of hard right far right issue. Were bunch frothing were all a bunch of frothing racist. The data shows that 70 of voters would deport of labour voters would deport them and 73 of remainers. So them and 73 of remainers. So there you go. Thats a heck of a lot of far right bigots, isnt it . This is the prime example of our politicians needing to get out more. It our politicians needing to get out more. It is the our politicians needing to get out more. It is the ovennhelming out more. It is the ovennhelming majority view of people right across the political spectrum that if you support a foreign terror group, you should be deported and we should do some kind mass public lie detector kind of mass public Lie Detector Test probably just ask people test or probably just ask people actually, plenty of actually, im sure plenty of them would openly tell you. And them would openly tell you. And if out that they have if it turns out that they have sympathy for the taliban, which a people apparently a lot of people apparently helping counter helping with our Counter Terrorism do, or terrorism prevent scheme do, or al qaeda or or hamas or al qaeda or isis or hamas or anyone like that, then theyre on the first plane out of here. Of course, by this logic, there is the chance that we may have had deport labour had to deport the former labour leader , but that wouldnt have leader, but that wouldnt have been the end the world, would been the end of the world, would it . We could at least do it with channel they channel migrants if they are coming from countries where terror prominent. Terror groups are prominent. We need we need to get need to know and we need to get them of here. The reality is them out of here. The reality is that there are a very fringe group of about 4 of people in britain that one would imagine the majority of them are either hard core charity activists, lawyers, others, or an actual terror group, sympathisers themselves. And they make a lot themselves. And they make a lot of noise. Theyre big on social media. Okay they seem like theres millions of them out there, but there isnt. There really isnt just ignore them and do whats in the best interest of britain. This idea politicians have that they couldnt possibly start deporting more people because thered. Yeah, there thered be outrage. Yeah, there would be amongst small group would be amongst a small group of who are probably very of idiots who are probably very angry life in general angry about life in general anyway, ignore move anyway, just ignore them, move on. It should absolutely not be controversial. Able to get controversial. Able to get islamist terrorists out of britain and do more to stop them coming in if they like those groups. So much. Okay. I personally would be happy to pay for their flight ticket to wherever their jihadi mates live. Gb views or gb news dot com. Get in touch. More on that story. A little bit later on in the hour. Weve done a lot of polling here at news and some polling here at gb news and some of results will shock you. Of the results will shock you. But to the growing crisis but now to the growing crisis within the labour okay so within the labour party. Okay so they would seem they are split, it would seem there are four shadow cabinet members who are currently on resignation watch. So sir keir resignation watch. So sir keir starmer held a meeting yesterday with a group of muslim mps and peers, a large number of Labour Councillors have resigned and since keir starmer started talking about whats going on in the middle east and well hear from one of them in just a moment. But yesterday the leader of the opposition was criticised of the opposition was criticised of after he went to of course after he went to a cardiff mosque at the weekend. The Islamic Centre the south wales Islamic Centre accused having accused sir keir of having gravely the gravely misrepresented the nature to of the nature of the visit to of the shadow members who are shadow cabinet members who are reported to be among those who could quit are sarah owen and Rachel Hopkins. Interestingly, Rachel Hopkins. Interestingly, they are both mps for luton, which has a large muslim community. In fact, i had the recent luton census here and some of this is interesting as well. So the population grew by 11 since between census sense. I i dont know the 2021 census showed that the population of luton now has a non white majority with 54. 8 of the population being non non white. Theres quite a lot of stats there. Ill get to them in a bit, but we have contacted both women and them to comment women and asked them to comment on claims as yet they have on the claims as yet they have not responded, but it is understood that there is still resignation watch going on in the labour party. Im joined now by our Political Editor, christopher christopher. By our Political Editor, christopher christopher. Thank you very much. Oh okay. You very, very much. Oh okay. I i believe that there may have been a Big Development on this story in the last few minutes. What can you tell us . Hi, patrick. Yeah, well, in addition to those two names you got out there, we can reveal today that Imran Hussain , whos today that Imran Hussain, whos the mp bradford east, hes the mp for bradford east, hes a shadow minister for working people. Has signed a motion people. He has signed a motion in Parliament Today. The calling in Parliament Today. The calling for ill it out to for the pm. Ill read it out to you i may, calling the pm you if i may, calling for the pm and foreign secretary to urgently press all parties to agree immediate agree to an immediate de escalate cessation of de escalate and cessation of hostilities. Now thats calling for a ceasefire that is not Labour Party Policy policy. There is for a pause and thats supporting what the government is trying to do. The idea of a ceasefire, what were ceasefire, which is what were seeing left of the seeing from the left of the party, they now, party, is what they want. Now, why matters is because this why that matters is because this individual , why that matters is because this individual, Imran Hussain bradford, mp , he he is bradford, east mp, he is he is a part of the Shadow Ministerial Team and its a direct challenge to Keir Starmers authority. You to Keir Starmers authority. You said earlier correctly that there are a number on resignation watch. You named two other mps there from luton , but other mps there from luton, but there a challenge now to keir there is a challenge now to Keir Starmers authority. Can he hold the Party Together and it will get more pressure for him as this israeli invasion has as they go into gaza, more lives will be lost. It very difficult to pictures will be showing on gb news in coming weeks as that transpires. And theres pressure on keir starmer to hold his Party Together. Why that matters is that this Time Next Year , is that this Time Next Year, late next year, if the polls are right, he could be Prime Minister. And how he responds to internal dissent about a uk government policy matter is really important to whether people want to vote for him next yean people want to vote for him next year. Yeah, ive got to be honest. I am a lot more concerned at the moment, as i know a lot of our viewers listeners are our viewers and listeners are about the domestic impact here of what might be going on abroad and the domestic political impact, how the labour party is going to bear up to all of this. So yesterday keir starmer had a meeting and that meeting initially a muslim labour mp, Khalid Mahmood , came out Khalid Mahmood, came out straight away and said, look, theres no resigning matters here, everythings fine. Well, here, everythings fine. Well, it out everything wasnt it turns out everything wasnt fine then, isnt it, christopher and that now people are seriously considering quitting. Would labour snatched defeat from the jaws of victory if this happened . Happened . Well, lets break that down. We dont know. Theyre looking at resigning. Theyre on resignation watch, which is a term weve got because we know we mps are unhappy. We know mps are unhappy. What will dont know will they do next . We dont know yet, we are seeing yet, but we are seeing the First Physical signs in writing in a in an early day motion. Basically a house of commons petition signed by mps. 95 mps have signed it, mps from the snp, independent mps , lots of snp, independent mps, lots of labour mps from the left. But also crucially now we are seeing shadow ministers signing Imran Hussain. And that is fascinating because what keir starmer does next will go a lot to defining his authority on the party. It looks like it could be the first his authority on the party. It looichallengeould be the first his authority on the party. It looichallenge hes be the first his authority on the party. It looichallenge hes had 1e first his authority on the party. It looichallenge hes had since it his authority on the party. It looichallenge hes had since he big challenge hes had since he since chaos of the tories since the chaos of the tories last year when he was given almost handed a 20 lead in almost handed a 20 point lead in the polls. Almost handed a 20 point lead in the okay. Okay. Okay. Fascinating look, fascinating stuff. Look, christopher, very much christopher, thank you very much. Christopher hope, our Political Editor. More. Christopher hope, our Political Editor. More this Political Editor. More on this as we like i said, as we get it. Like i said, labour mps on resignation watch shadow cabinet members on resignation. Watch. If theres resignation. Watch. If theres any there, bring any movement there, well bring it to you. But Khalid Mahmood, labour did talk to us labour mp did talk to us yesterday, sorry this morning i should say, at gb news. Heres what he had to say. I dont support any extremist organisation, never have done and since 9 11 have fought against them. And i think the against them. And i think the issue here is how we move fonnard. The meeting that we had with sir keir was basically looking at the concerns of our constituents and how people are moving fonnard. So thats our moving fonnard. So thats our real concern that we have at the moment. I dont have much time for muslim labour muslim network. I believe that they should concentrate on a lot of theissues should concentrate on a lot of the issues that are present , but the issues that are present, but other issues that are constituents are concerned about the cost of living. The issue amongst all of our communities. So those are the important things for us. And i think thats what we want to do. Okay. So the mps and shadow cabinet ministers in the labour party are on resignation watch. We will watch this space. But one of the first muslim councillors to quit labour was dr. Amar lateef , who i believe dr. Amar lateef, who i believe were going to be talking to very shortly from , um, oxford very shortly from, um, oxford and this is an interesting situation for the labour party really. If they do resign , what really. If they do resign, what would the labour party do . Do would the labour party do . Do you think that keir starmer can hold all of this together right now . I mean, it is going to be very, very tricky. Im going to delve into the inbox quickly. Gb views gb news. Uk uk patrick, what you say about deporting foreign terrorist sympathisers is true. This is from neil. Its a pity of the social Media Outlets seem to support the 4. This is it. So if youre just joining us, weve done some stats here, weve done some polling data and 74 people polling data and 74 of people would deport foreign nationals who sympathise terrorist who sympathise with terrorist organisations. Was range organisations. There was a range of dont knows and then there was 4 that said no , they was 4 that said no, they wouldnt deport them. Okay. That is a fringe group of people. So when see people who are when you see people who are lawyers or very vocal human rights brigade people or anything like that, making a heck of a lot of noise, making a heck of a lot of noise, making a heck a lot of on news heck of a lot of noise on news channels, social media, maybe channels, on social media, maybe demonstrating outside key votes in parliament, etcetera. You really do have to keep in mind that there every chance that that there is every chance that they just 4 of our they are part of just 4 of our population here. And if it is those people that really those people that were really terrified when terrified about offending, when the government making policy the government is making policy or decisions are being made or when decisions are being made like it worth it when like that, is it worth it when the 74 ordinary brits would the 74 of ordinary brits would be quite happy for those decisions to go way over their heads and get people deported . The trouble is, patrick, weve had open borders the last five years, john and we havent years, says john and we havent got a clue come to this got a clue whos come to this country. Those are johns views. I believe now revert i believe that i can now revert back to this issue about a quote unquote labour implosion and talk now to our first muslim councillor who quit labour is dr. Amar lateef , who joins me dr. Amar lateef, who joins me from oxford. Thank you very much. Great to have you on the show. So why did show. Right. Okay. So why did you quit . Patrick. Thanks for hi, patrick. Thanks for having me on so along with the rest of the world and your viewers , i was watching in with viewers, i was watching in with some dismay at the events that have been unfolding in the middle east with innocent loss of life in both israel and palestine. And i was palestine. And i was particularly perturbed and disappointed by the comment that the labour leader, keir starmer, made and he had this lbc interview where he was asked directly about a siege on gaza and whether it could be justified, to which he answered, yes, could. Okay. At that yes, it could. Okay. At that stage i tried to seek urgent clarification from local and clarification from the local and national this National Party over this statement unfortunately, statement. Unfortunately, no clarification was forthcoming and therefore i couldnt with good , remain in good conscience, remain in a party where because. Party where just because. Can i ask how does yeah, but can i ask how does how does that how does that affect the people you represent in oxford directly . In oxford directly . Because we have a leader who has disregard for human life and international law. I was elected to serve the people in cowley, in oxford, who many of whom have got in touch with me over this issue, asking me about what the labour party stance was when his statement came out. This was of statement came out. This was of course followed by a car crash of an interview by the shadow attorney general, Emily Thornberry , where she tried to thornberry, where she tried to justify the use of the use of collective punishment with as a tool to be used as a warfare and in good conscience, i couldnt remain in the party that had this approach. So the fact that keir starmer tried to get Jeremy Corbyn elected twice isnt enough for you . Well, i think enough for you . Well, i think thats historic. Thats thats historic. Thats something that keir starmer needs to answer to the question for him. But i think the issue for him. But i think the issue for me really now is what does keir starmer do in the here and now regarding situation now regarding this situation and actually know, had actually, you know, weve had a clarifying statement which which isnt really a statement at all. Its taken nine days for that statement to come out. And then alongside that, weve also had other frontbench shadow frontbench members like david lammy, again on national tv, trying to justify the use of collective punishment. So i think in as a within that think that in as a within that context would you rather would you rather have Jeremy Corbyn in charge then . Do you think . Do you think . Do you think . I wouldnt. I didnt think Jeremy Corbyn, my views, im not particularly left wing entered politics. I work as a gp and i entered politics really because of the covid pandemic and the impact i was seeing it have on the Community Around me. So im not particularly political in that sense. Ive been a Labour Councillor two councillor for about two and a half years so i wouldnt half years now, so i wouldnt really see this as an issue of left or right. This is really an issue of international justice, international peace, and its a humanitarian issue and in some ways its being framed as a muslim or a jewish issue. Its not, humanitarian issue not, its a humanitarian issue and people, all good people and all people, all good people of who want of good conscience who want justice and peace will be outraged stance that keir outraged at the stance that keir starmer has taken. Yeah. I could maybe yeah. Could i could i maybe politely think politely suggest why i think many people come to the many people might come to the conclusion that it could be a muslim or jewish issue in muslim orjewish issue in britain because weve got sarah innin , for example, the luton innin, for example, the luton north mp who is herself not muslim, as far as im aware , and muslim, as far as im aware, and luton south mp Rachel Hopkins at luton, massively muslim area, massive , diverse area and its massive, diverse area and its majority non white as as well. Both of those are now on whats called resignation watch, supposedly over whether or not theyre going to quit over this, that would imply to me theyre getting lot of pressure from getting a lot of pressure from their okay. Their constituent ice. Okay. We also know that there are a couple of bradford mps are also know that there are a coupapparently rd mps are also know that there are a coupapparently on mps are also know that there are a coupapparently on resignatione also apparently on resignation watch. The implication watch. Again the implication there be theyre a there will be theyre getting a lot their lot of pressure from their constituents. Its it sounds to me youre constituents me as though youre constituents were concerned were were quite concerned as well. Okay. Is it not fair to well. Okay. Is it not fair to suggest that maybe some labour mps are getting a huge amount of pressure from the kind of quote unquote muslim vote on this . So think its undoubtedly the case that the labour , the muslim vote that the labour, the muslim vote for labour has collapsed. Theres a survey out today you may have seen which shows that 71 of muslims prior to these events would have voted laboun these events would have voted labour. Thats now fallen down to 5. You know , were seeing 66 to 5. You know, were seeing 66 loss of vote. However, what i would say to you is i live in oxford. Oxford is not predominantly muslim. The ward which i represent, cowley, is not particularly heavy in terms which i represent, cowley, is no muslimilarly heavy in terms which i represent, cowley, is no muslim. Arly heavy in terms which i represent, cowley, is no muslim. Inr heavy in terms which i represent, cowley, is no muslim. In oxford in terms which i represent, cowley, is no muslim. In oxford itself,ns of muslim. In oxford itself, weve labour weve seen nine Labour Councillors resign. The vast majority of whom do not have are not of a muslim background and now actually the Labour Council in oxford has lost its majority and a minority administration. Oxford is not a majority muslim place. Its somewhere where people who are of good conscience have come together to say enough is enough. We dont want to see this suffering released. Yeah, because look, just just quickly, do you think that if keir starmer cant sort this internal division out right now, do you think hes fit to run country . Well, i think it calls into question his judgement, doesnt it . Hes been reckless with his it . Hes been reckless with his words. Hes been hes. Hes not really acted as events have changed. Hes now calling for a humanitarian pause. What he humanitarian pause. What he really needs to do is he needs to apologise for his error. Hes come out, he made a misstatement, was answering a different question. Weve all heard the interview. To heard the interview. He needs to apologise and he now heard the interview. He needs to apologtoz and he now heard the interview. He needs to apologto call and he now heard the interview. He needs to apologto call for and he now heard the interview. He needs to apologto call for anlnd he now heard the interview. He needs to apologto call for an immediate needs to call for an immediate ceasefire see end to the ceasefire to see an end to the suffering in the middle east. Right. Okay. Thank all right. Okay. Look, thank you is, of you very much. That is, of course, former labour course, one former Labour Councillor as dr. Amar lateef , councillor as dr. Amar lateef, whos joining me from oxford. Right. Okay interesting, isnt it . A of a mess. It . It is a bit of a mess. I wonder whether well get any proper shadow proper resignations from shadow cabinet ministers throughout the course of show , but loads course of this show, but loads more on this on our website gbnews. Com is the fastest gb news. Com is the Fastest Growing news website in growing National News website in the best the country. Its got the best analysis. Big opinion analysis. Its got big opinion on the latest breaking on all of the latest breaking news. And can i also just give a quick shout out to all of my radio show listeners as well . Thank very much. We now thank you very much. We are now the drive time the most listened to drive time commercial news show. So excellent stuff. Tell your friends. Yes , almost three friends. But yes, almost three quarters of people think that foreign nationals who glorify islamist terrorism should be deported. Like to have deported. I quite like to have a word dont. Word with the people who dont. Patrick gb sunday mornings from 930 on. Gb news. Welcome back. It is 327. Youre watching or listening to me. Patrick christys on gb news. Now, after steve coogan said people who like the royal family are, quote, flag waving idiots , are, quote, flag waving idiots, ill be joined by a royal fanatic and a real gb news fan fave brit. But a gb news poll has found that almost three quarters of people think that foreign nationals who glorify islamist terrorism should be deported. A massive 74 agreed that they should be thrown out of the country and actually , i of the country and actually, i think this is the more important figure, certainly for me anyway just 4, just for a say that they dont want that to happen. It comes after some people were filmed chanting jihad jihad dunng filmed chanting jihad jihad during the pro palestine protest last weekend , frankly, take your last weekend, frankly, take your pick. Heres some of that. Pick. But heres some of that. What is the solution to liberate in the liberate people in the concentrate camp on palestine jihad . What is the solution . Jihad . What is the solution . Jihad , love. Jihad jihad, love. Jihad jihad, love. Jihad well, i have a feeling that that video will echo throughout british eternity. But joining me now is political commentator benedict spence. Benedict. Thank you very, very much. For me, the real number not that 74 of real number is not that 74 of people want people on planes and deported. That just 4 want deported. Its that just 4 want them to stay. And we appear to them to stay. And we appear to be spending too much time listening to that 4. Yeah , i think so. You know, yeah, i think so. You know, a big chunk of people saying that they neither agree nor disagree or dont know, i think is emblematic of a lot of people who are not necessarily particularly read on on particularly well read on on certain conflicts, certain organisations and quite rightly say, well, perhaps, dont know say, well, perhaps, i dont know enough decide to enough about it and decide to sit this out. But you know, sit this one out. But you know, that is the standout that that really is the standout number. Is that 4 and you number. Is that small 4 and you know ultimate i think that this sort of its interesting one sort of its an interesting one isnt it because you ask yourself really so often we have these conversations and these discussions around free speech in uk limitations of in the uk and the limitations of free speech. And you do have to say there, think say theyre right there, i think is of really a lot of is a sign of really a lot of people draw the line on these sorts things. Think sorts of things. And i think even before hamass attack on israel and the subsequent protests, i suspect you would have had a similar number simply because of the fact that the uk like israel, has experienced terrorist attacks by by what are known as lone wolf terrorist terrorists , but also by people terrorists, but also by people who subscribe to various different ideologies of various terrorist organisations. I think broadly speaking, were a very tolerant nation, but we draw the line at people adhering to extremist ideologies that mean us and our allies harm and i dont think theres anything unreasonable about no, this is it. We need to remove. I think the idea that there should be anything controversial about wanting somebody who supports a terrorist organisation to be either removed from our country or stopped from entering it, that shouldnt be controversial, should it . That shouldnt be controversial, should it . It it shouldnt be controversial in the slightest. You know, in a civilised , you know, in a civilised, tolerant society, there are limits. There are rules. And if you want to come and live here and our behest amongst and live at our behest amongst us, to adhere to most , us, you have to adhere to most, if those. You know, if not all of those. You know, ultimately we you know, we dont have when we have these have a lot when we have these discussions are discussions around what are british is it to be british values, what is it to be british . Lots british . Actually, lots of people but people disagree on those. But broadly , does broadly speaking, it does seem to around things like to coalesce around things like religious bigotry and violence. Thats what most people think are definitely not british values. So were under no values. So were under no obugafion values. So were under no obligation to tolerate these people. And actually we are a little unusual in terms of little bit unusual in terms of most countries do not let people in or certainly they dont give them residency or right to remain if they have these sorts of beliefs that are the complete opposite of what it is that the country stands for. The uk has taken this idea of tolerance to such extreme and its so such an extreme and its so unnecessary. You simply dont find this in places including places like europe , certainly places like europe, certainly not across the middle east. You know, they dont tolerate half of the organisations that we tolerate because they understand them what they and them for what they are and they dont who dont tolerate people who support either. Dont tolerate people who squeah, either. Dont tolerate people who squeah, exactly. Ler. Dont tolerate people who squeah, exactly. |e mean, yeah, exactly. I mean, theyre tolerating them now, theyre not tolerating them now, are there are are they . Which is why there are calls a of people calls to bring a load of people over find it with over here. But i find it with this we are arguably the this that we are arguably the most country i think, most tolerant country i think, in always use steve in the world. I always use steve bray the example this, bray as the example of this, that guy who stands with a megaphone westminster, megaphone outside westminster, you literally you know, shouting or literally turning peoples events as turning up at peoples events as well, insulting well, shouting abuse, insulting everybody there, looking like hes just been kicked out of a pub and no one ever really batters him. Right no ones ever really of grabbed him and really kind of grabbed him and done him some serious harm that in itselfjust done him some serious harm that in itself just shows how tolerant right. This tolerant we are. Right. And this is another example of this. I think that have let things think that we have let things run long, but the next run for so long, but the next time a plane full of time that we see a plane full of people a runway and people on a runway somewhere and some the human rights brigade some of the human rights brigade cut at cut through the fence at heathrow on the Heathrow Airport and sit on the tarmac , we try to tarmac, we should try to remember, shouldnt we, that they make just around 4 of they make up just around 4 of this they might be this population. They might be very loud, but they make a large fuss. That many of fuss. There arent that many of them fuss. There arent that many of the exactly. And youre exactly exactly. And youre exactly right to point out steve bray, but broadly, the fact that we have not got to a stage yet where there has been a massive backlash against the undemocratic forces in this country, that there has not been a massive, significant icant backlash in terms of politically when it comes to things like the mass importation of people, many of whom do not share our values. The fact that we are continuously very tolerant of this , were tolerant of the this, were tolerant of the circumstances that has allowed this to arise, whereas our european neighbours simply are not, i think is a credit in many ways to the stoicism and the patience of the british people. But i think also at some point we have to ask ourselves what does our patients get us actually . If you have a actually . Because if you have a situation where there is an attack in israel and hundreds of thousands of people march across the of london venting the streets of london venting their what their anti semitism to what benefit of us . Benefit is that to any of us . And to say, actually, benefit is that to any of us . Ancif to say, actually, benefit is that to any of us . Ancif youre to say, actually, benefit is that to any of us . Ancif youre notsay, actually, benefit is that to any of us . Ancif youre not ay, actually, benefit is that to any of us . Ancif youre not a britishrlly, no. If youre not a british citizen, you have right to be citizen, you have no right to be here continually to be told here and continually to be told as well gaslit that, you know, this is all part of our greatest strength, thank very much. Benedict thank you very much. Benedict spence there is a political commentator, always great. Take care. Right. Okay. Loads come between great. Take care. Right. Okay. Loadand come between great. Take care. Right. Okay. Loadand 4 00, come between great. Take care. Right. Okay. Loadand 4 00, a come between great. Take care. Right. Okay. Loadand 4 00, a royalne between great. Take care. Right. Okay. Loadand 4 00, a royal fanatic een now and 4 00, a royal fanatic will have her say after steve coogan said that people who like the royals a flag waving idiots. I am clearly very angry about this. I think steve coogan is way depth on this way out of his depth on this flag, waving idiots. This the flag, waving idiots. This is the most population. But most of the population. But first, its latest headlines with. Alison with. Alison thanks, patrick. 333. Our top stories. Uk border force teams stories. Uk border force teams have arrived in egypt with the Prime Minister confirming that theyre ready to help british nationals escape gaza when the rafah crossing is reopened. Cabinet ministers held an emergency cobra meeting this morning addressing the escalating crisis in the middle east. The government is pushing for a pause in fighting, rejecting calls for a full ceasefire, claiming it will only help hamas. The Prime Minister says they want to create a safe environment for uk citizens to leave the bombarded strip. After leave the bombarded strip. After israel launched its biggest incursion into gaza , with tanks incursion into gaza, with tanks temporarily entering the territory and fighter jets hitting over 250 targets. This arab nations have released a joint statement condemning what they described as the forced displacement and collective punishment in gaza. The gaza punishment in gaza. The gaza Health Ministry saying that the death toll from israeli strikes is now over 7000. In the United States, a manhunt is undennay after up to 22 people were killed by a gunman. Police in the state of maine have named 40 year old robert card as a person of interest, describing him as armed and dangerous. The shootings occurred in at least two locations a restaurant and a Bowling Alley in the city of lewiston. You can get more on lewiston. You can get more on all those stories on our website. News. Com. Im for website. News. Com. Im for stunning gold and silver coins. Youll always value rosalind gold proudly sponsors the gb news Financial Report back to the rather loud Patrick Christies in just a moment. But first, a look at the markets and the pound will buy you 1. 2113 and ,1. 1498. Price of gold £1,632. 62 per ounce. And the ftse 100 at 7362 points. Rosalind gold proudly sponsors the gb news Financial Report. At steve coogan, made report. At steve coogan, made his name as Alan Partridge on the fictional tv presenter whos prone to say some very stupid things. Things. I cant help but wonder whether or not my producers have put there a shout out put that in there as a shout out to but there we go. But even to me. But there we go. But even alan would do well to come out with something as crass as coogans comments about coogans latest comments about the because the royal family, because coogans claimed that most people in the royalist people who are in the royalist camp are flag waving people who are kind of idiots. Camp are flag waving people who are kind of idiots. So its are kind of idiots. So its basically flag waving idiots, isnt it . Thats what hes called. People who like the royals. He called. People who like the royals. He did go on to say that the queen was, quote, all right. The queen was, quote, all right. Which is nice of him, isnt it . Thats our longest serving monarch, arguably the greatest human being, genuinely that this country has ever produced. Steve coogan there. Alan partridge does a bit of comedy, thinks the queens all right. Im delighted to say that. Im joined now by one of the royal familys biggest fans, and she is a fabulous friend of the show. Yes its anita atkinson. Anita how are you . Are you . Im smashing. Thank you , patrick. How are you . How are you . Im good. Now look, a little bit of context, okay . So regular viewers and listeners to this show will know, anita, because when we were building up to the combination, we were talking a lot, werent we . And we up combination, we were talking a lottherent we . And we up combination, we were talking a lotthe mail we . And we up combination, we were talking a lotthe mail ae . And we up combination, we were talking a lotthe mail a few nd we up combination, we were talking a lotthe mail a few times. Up combination, we were talking a lotthe mail a few times. I up combination, we were talking a lotthe mail a few times. I mean, on the mail a few times. I mean, you can you explain how much you you can you explain how much you you royal family and you love the royal family and all memorabilia of all the memorabilia and all of this . This . Well, im a monarchist and i happen to have the biggest collection of royal memorabilia in the world. Not that i set out to do that. That im very precious that. Not that im very precious about it, because i would still be a monarchist if i if i had single mug it doesnt matter. I am a monarchist. Thats my politics. Lovely stuff. So ive got to lovely stuff. So ive got to ask, what do you make of steve coogan saying that , frankly, coogan saying that, frankly, people like you are what, flag waving idiots . Waving idiots . Well, he might be right. Well, he might be right. But ill tell you what, patrick, why why dont you just set up a panel and me and steve coogan will be on it, and then lets see what he has to say. Maybe about the history of the country that he was born and bred in. Okay. I mean, what would you say to him . Imagine. Imagine. Im steve coogan , right . Im steve coogan, right . Okay. Okay. So, steve coogan, uh , youve so, steve coogan, uh, youve described yourself as being an anti monarchist. So does that mean youre a republican . And he says yes. Republican . And he says yes. Okay. So is there a single mp okay. So is there a single mp in this present Parliament Today that you would have as a president . Because actually, i think Alan Partridge would do a better job. Maybe you want Alan Partridge as a president. Maybe partridge as a president. Maybe i would then go on, you know, are all royal fans flag waving idiots . Well, you know , how idiots . Well, you know, how about, uh, Robert Hardman that wrote this book on the queen, whos clearly a royal fan . Is he an idiot . Whos clearly a royal fan . Is he an idiot . What about, uh , an idiot . What about, uh, Jonathan Dimbleby that wrote this amazing book on the prince of wales . Do you think hes an idiot . No were not idiots. Were monarchists. Were monarchists. Were monarchists. And we prefer to have a monarchy rather than a republic. And you just have to look into history to see what countries that used to be monarchies. Now , well, now are. Now, well, now are. Now, well, now are. And have been before because whenever you abolish a monarchy , whenever you abolish a monarchy, you create a vacuum that has to be filled. Whos going to fill that . Exactly. And how about looking back in European Countries . Just look at germany , for just look at germany, for instance. When the monarchy went there, it was its filled by it was filled by the most evil dictatorship. This world had ever seen. And if you look at other countries, russia was a monarchy. China was a monarchy. Albania was a monarchy. Look, look , weve got a monarchy. Look, weve got a monarchy. It works. It works. Its not we dont have a position thats broken , so lets position thats broken, so lets not try and fix it. Oh, really . Oh, really . What . No, oh, really . What . No, ive brought a tear to my eye. I just. A silly one. I would follow you into battle. I would follow you into battle. I would follow you into battle. I would follow you into battle. I would follow you into battle. I would follow you into battle. And its remarkable that. And and its remarkable that. And what do you make of him saying that he thinks the queen was just all right. That he thinks the queen was just all right. Well that he thinks the queen was just all right. Well i just think hes a fool. He also said that the 55 and over age group make up the majority of whatever like they dont the majority of those crowds at the coronation and the majority of those crowds at the queens funeral were young people. Young people are people. Young people are monarchists as well. I dont even know. Does he know what hes talking about . Does he live in the real world . How is steve coogan . Set up a panel. Set up a panel. This is this is an open call out now to steve coogan, isnt it . We werent anticipating this, you know, so. So would is it any time, any so you would is it any time, any place , anita, for you, you know, place, anita, for you, you know, whether its around the back of a car park near a sainsburys or whether national whether its on national television, coogan television, you take coogan anywhere, you . Anywhere, any time. Would you . Come up to county anytime. Come up to County Durham, steve coogan, or ill come down to wherever you live. If you anyone. If you did tell anyone. Wow. Wow. Wow. Okay. Ive got a feeling that i know what show were going to be doing in a couple of weeks time. Actually, you and i tipping up outside coogans house, ringing his buzzer , house, ringing his buzzer, demanding, demanding that he talks to us. Really but do you think theres a slightly wider point here . We could. I mean, he says he likes hes ambivalent towards the king. Now now, because apparently he quite likes some of the duchy waitrose , whos range, which is a very flippant thing to say, isnt it really . You know, i just wonder really . You know, i just wonder whether he knows how lucky he is maybe have to have lived maybe to have to have lived under a monarchy. Under a monarchy. Yeah, thats thats the thing. I think the majority of people dont realise how fortunate we are. You know. Are. You know. And he says, im really sorry about this, anita. Im going to have to cut you off just because weve got little bit of weve got a little bit of breaking okay . But will breaking news. Okay . But i will talk to you again very soon. You take care as anita there. Well return thank you. Return to that topic. Thank you. Bye bye. Okay. Right now, very much shifting up 22 much shifting tone. Up to 22 people dead in the us people were shot dead in the us state of maine overnight as a press conference taking place. Now more now as we get some more information, as we understand now as we get some more infthe ation, as we understand now as we get some more infthe shooters we understand now as we get some more infthe shooter is e understand now as we get some more infthe shooter is stillderstand now as we get some more infthe shooter is still active. D it, the shooter is still active. Well see what the well have to see what the latest lets go to maine. You may notice my voice is a little hoarse after working through the night as you all know, last night, the through the night as you all know, last night , the local, know, last night, the local, county, state and federal Law Enforcement officers from around the state of maine responded to reports of an active shooter at several locations in lewiston, including spare time recreation nafion including spare time recreation nation and maggies bar and grill. Grill. These Law Enforcement officers in the face of danger , officers in the face of danger, they responded swiftly , they responded swiftly, selflessly and with great bravery. Bravery that they bravery. Bravery that they continue to demonstrate today as they search our tirelessly for person of interest in connection with last nights events is on behalf of all maine people. I express my deep gratitude for your response once and for your continued service. I also do so continued service. I also do so for maines hospitals and other medical emergency responses, response wanders. Im profoundly response wanders. Im profoundly saddened to stand before you today to report that 18 people have lost their lives and 13 people injured in last nights attacks. In memory of those we attacks. In memory of those we and in honour of those who were injured , President Biden and injured, President Biden and i have ordered all us flags and state of maine flags to be lowered to half staff immediately for the next five days. Maine state police have issued a shelter in place order for lewiston , lisbon and bowdoin for lewiston, lisbon and bowdoin as the manhunt for that person of interest. Robert card of bowdoin continues venues. I will bowdoin continues venues. I will let Law Enforcement speak to the ongoing manhunt and to their investigation. But mr card is considered armed and dangerous, and Police Advise that maine people should not approach him under any circumstances. Under any circumstances. I continue to strongly urge maine people to follow the direction of state and local Law Enforcement amid this ever changing situation. Please please, if you see anything suspicious, please , please call suspicious, please, please call 911. There is still many things we dont yet know about these attacks , but the full weight of attacks, but the full weight of my administration is behind Law Enforcements efforts to capture the person of interest. Robert card , to hold whoevers card, to hold whoevers responsible for this atrocity accountable under the full force of state and federal law , and to of state and federal law, and to seek full justice for the victims and their families. We victims and their families. We are we cannot and we will not rest in this endeavour. My administration is coordinate closely with local, regional and federal officials to respond to this shooting. I have spoken this shooting. I have spoken twice with President Biden. Ive twice with President Biden. Ive spoken with Vice President harris, secretary of Homeland Security mayorkas and secretary of health and human services. Security mayorkas and secretary of health and human services. As of health and human services. As becerra , all of whom have called becerra, all of whom have called me last night to express the biden administrations full and unwavering support and to offer any and all help that we, the people of maine , might. The people of maine, might. The governors of our neighbouring New England States and of other states have contacted me to offer aid and i am sincerely grateful for their friendship and support. Grateful for their friendship and support. Weve grateful for their friendship and support. Weve been grateful for their friendship and support. Weve been in touch with every member of the maine congressional delegation , all of congressional delegation, all of whom have offered their full support for which i am also grateful. I also spoke with grateful. I also spoke with mayor carl shaleen and auburn mayor carl shaleen and auburn mayor excuse me , jason levesque, mayor excuse me, jason levesque, last night to reiterate that we are standing by them and that we are standing by them and that we are ready to provide any help. Are ready to provide any help. People in these communities need and to deploy all available state resources, including grief counsellors and other Mental Health services. We need to help health services. We need to help our communities heal. If you or a person you love needs someone to talk to during this difficult time, please call , call to talk to during this difficult time, please call, call or to talk to during this difficult time, please call , call or text. Time, please call, call or text. 988 for free and confidential counselling. 988 look lewiston counselling. 988 look lewiston is a special place , right . Is a special place, right . Okay, so that is a press conference currently taking place in maine where the manhunt continues. 18 people are dead, four critically injured, at least 30 others injured after a shooting at a bar and a Bowling Alley in maine. The police have named robert card, a 40 year old man as a person of interest in connection with those shootings. He is still at large. More on this as we get it. A he is still at large. More on this as we get it. A devastating this as we get it. A devastating scenes there in maine. Right closer to home, though , and its closer to home, though, and its a question that has tripped up loads of politicians , especially loads of politicians, especially from the left. And it sounds so basic, doesnt it . What is a woman . A sir keir starmer stance woman . A sir keir starmer stance has changed in recent times. But labours leader in wales, mark drakeford, Scotland First drakeford, former Scotland First minister nicola sturgeon, say that someone born male can be a woman. Now a new gb news poll has found that a significant number of people agree with them. 30 agree that someone who was biologically male at birth now identifies as a woman now is indeed a woman. 30. That is an astonishing amount of people. Former brexit party mep and political commentator belinda de lucy joins me now. Belinda, thank you very, very much. I think this is an absolutely devastating. It was initially sold as only 30 of people think this. I think its the opposite. A staggering 30 of people think a bloke can be a woman. I know im saddened by that. I think it has a lot to do with the fact weve actually only had a year or two where we felt weve had free speech on this issue, where we felt we can expose the massively negative impact , expose the massively negative impact, saying a trans woman is an actual woman can have on womens rights and girls because pre two years ago you could get cancelled , you could have the cancelled, you could have the police knocking at your door, you could, you know, have your accounts off twitter cancel cancelled if you dared challenge it. So actually the rhetoric that has been very pro trans women are actual women have had the floor for so long that it has indoctrinated and ingrained in a lot of people. And of course its in our schools, its in our universities. So we need to we need to catch up. I mean, i remember back in 2020, patrick, when i joined these womens groups like womens place and lgb alliance , who wanted to have lgb alliance, who wanted to have these meetings to talk about how trans activists and men , you trans activists and men, you know, changing sex into women impacted us. We werent even allowed to know the location until an hour before or because of the threat of trans activists. And even when they turned up, we smoked , bombed. They we were smoked, bombed. They tried prevent get get tried to prevent us to get get into know, meeting into the, you know, meeting rooms. So weve been under threat a lot about speaking about i hope as the about it. But i hope as the years go on women are braver years go on and women are braver because courage calls courage because courage calls to courage everywhere. Patrick and jk rowling have forced to helen joyce, julie bindel all these wonderful women have helped lead the bit. The way a bit. A lot. Yeah, a lot. Yeah, a lot. And what you absolutely. And what you described there is mafia tactics , right . If you want to meet up with someone , minded with someone, like minded individuals, about individuals, talk about something that has been established biological and scientific medical fact scientific and medical fact since the dawn of time , and you since the dawn of time, and you have to keep that location secret and you can be smoke bombed if you decide to attend. Thats what the mafia do. Okay, we call it what is. We should call it what it is. And other side of this, and the other side of this, there , having conversations there, having conversations with kids early on there in the kids very early on there in the schools , there in the schools, there in the institutions and you know what . Now, now 30 of people, these people walk amongst us. 30 of people walk amongst us. 30 of people think that men can be and should be considered as women. So the other side is winning on this. So the other side is winning on this. Belinda, on so the other side is winning on this. Belinda, on unfortunately, yes. But it is much better than it than it was two years ago. We are making a little bit more ground and i think its really important to say, you know, we dont feel angst towards men who want to dress up as women, want to identify, call themselves what they like, you know, live your best life. Its not about your best life. Its not about that. Its about not indoctrinating people with this lie you can change sex and lie that you can change sex and then women and then punishing women and threatening this threatening climate around women who now feel like we cant speak up saying this is wrong, we cant have men our sports or or men have men in our sports or or men in our changing rooms just because they happen to identify as trans women are trans as women. Trans women are trans women. And that distinction must be made to protect women and girls. Yeah, absolutely. Girls rights. Yeah, absolutely. Absolutely. And when you have absolutely. And when you have a look this, if we it on a look at this, if we flip it on its head we go, right, okay, its head and we go, right, okay, we positive spin we take them all positive spin on this, which is that 70 of people dont that. So that people dont think that. So that means least of people. Means at least 70 of people. Therefore someone therefore would not want someone who is male but identify as a woman in changing rooms and in quotes and quotes safe spaces. I would imagine that of the 30 who did say that blokes can be women, theres still a percentage of those who wouldnt want them in the changing room with their daughter or with their wife or with their girlfriend or mother, etcetera. So when look it so actually, when you look at it like these like that, again, these politicians coming out and backing some of these niche issues, they are really appealing to a fringe, arent they, as opposed to the majority. But it is a vocal fringe. But it is a vocal fringe. Should they ignore them . Should they ignore them . The vocal fringe has a lot of power behind it and a lot of money behind it, which is why were seeing it so much in our schools, in our Public Sector, in our nhs , in our police force. In our nhs, in our police force. You know, where do these people get all the power from . Theres the question on. And id also say that its not helped by labour announcing that theyre considering putting people in jail for misgendering , that kind jail for misgendering, that kind of thing. I mean that sort of of thing. I mean that sort of policy , youre going to have to policy, youre going to have to expand the womens prisons because its going to be filled with like me and my with women like me and my daughters who will challenge men in and blokes so that worries me slightly that keir hasnt learned from this and also that hes just saying what he thinks people want to hear behind the scenes. I think theres lot of scenes. I think theres a lot of push labour for self id for push in labour for self id for men to have the power to demand access to wherever they like as long as they identify as a woman. And so labour still worries me on that. Patrick but keep 70 isnt bad. Yeah. Belinda thank you very much. Massively appreciated coming on. You always are a ray of sunshine to any discussion. Miss belinda de lucy there. Former mep, former brexit party mep, political commentator. Right. Former brexit party mep, politime commentator. Right. Former brexit party mep, politime now nentator. Right. Former brexit party mep, politime now quicklyr. Right. Former brexit party mep, politime now quickly for ght. Its time now quickly for patricks of day. When patricks pick of the day. When i about a story that isnt i talk about a story that isnt dominating news headlines, dominating the news headlines, but caught eye. And but its caught my eye. And today about the woke today im talking about the woke museum that has ditched the word christmas from its Christmas Market. Christmas market at market. The Christmas Market at bowes museum, which was found dead by the ancestors of the late queen no more late queen mother is no more woke. Officials at the museum in Barnard Castle. Remember that, by way. Got to check your by the way. Got to check your eyesight there in County Durham have replaced it with winter have replaced it with a winter market. Oh, good. Its winter full time, isnt it . I must say that bowes museum have denied that bowes museum have denied that theyve cancelled christmas right. Theyve told us there are right. Theyve told us there are lots of christmas activities at the museum. People can still buy christmas and decorations christmas cards and decorations as but but not called as well. But but its not called christmas anymore. No, no, its christmas anymore. No, no, its a winter thing. And its not a winter thing. And its not christmas. No, absolutely. Christmas. No, absolutely. Right. Well, the labour party is in crisis over its stance at the moment on whats going on abroad , but also how theyre dealing with it here. This split is so serious for shadow cabinet members. Theyre on resignation watch. Im asking is labour in turmoil . Christys gb turmoil . Patrick christys gb news. Is news. Channel news. This is news. Channel hello again. Welcome to your latest gb news weather update from the met office. Well see further rain and showers through the rest day, the rest of the day, particularly north particularly across North Eastern areas. Thats because low pressure is very much in charge. Its staying to the west charge. Its staying to the west of uk , but thats going to of the uk, but thats going to push sequence of fronts across push a sequence of fronts across us over the next few days and into next week as well. Now that rain will persist across North Eastern areas, theres still a warning in force all way warning in force all the way through until saturday here across Southern Coasts as well. Well to see some of well continue to see some of those showers through this evening. Itll evening. However, inland itll turn drier and that allow turn drier and that will allow some mist and fog to develop for central areas such as the midlands, east anglia , too. So a midlands, east anglia, too. So a bit of a murky start on friday morning here, but it will be dry for these central areas. Elsewhere though, across the south and the northeast staying rather wet through tomorrow, some quite blustery and heavy showers across the south coast and across the north east, particularly eastern scotland, where that warnings in force. Rainfall totals will continue to build up. Now temperatures are a little bit below average for the time of year with the best of any sunshine, it wont feel too bad in central areas on saturday. Sunshine will saturday. Again, sunshine will be fairly limited for most areas with a lot of cloud and showers around in the south east, well see persistent rain see some quite persistent rain as well as in northern ireland, wales eastern scotland wales and eastern scotland through sunday. Further wet weather to come and there weather is to come and there will little change into the will be little change into the start of next week with more wind rain its £0. 04 pm. Its Patrick Christys. Its gb news. Its labour on the brink of implosion. Despite surging ahead in the polls, they have shadow cabinet ministers on resignation. Watch four of them, two of their mps on resignation. Watch loads of councillors have already resigned. I am talking already resigned. I am talking to one of those councillors in the next few minutes. How will starmer handle this . In other news i will be discussing. Yes, one of the bulger killers. There parole hearing will be private, completely private to protect their Mental Health. Really, we are a soft touch here, arent we . Get a load of this, though. The bbc stands accused of trying to induce minute children about White Privilege after a kids News Programme featured somebody bang on about White Supremacy and how white people are all evil and horrible. Are they trying to indoctrinate kids to talking of other things that should scare the living daylights out of you . Is i . Yes, thats right. Apparently, because it could used because it could be used supposedly to some kind because it could be used su terror ily to some kind because it could be used su terror ily tweapon. Some kind because it could be used su terror ily tweapon. So ne kind because it could be used su terror ily tweapon. So well d of terror bio weapon. So well be having a look at how likely or othennise, hopefully othennise, that is to happen. Patrick christys. Gb news. Yes. And surely a slightly comical story about the labour party and the shadow chancellor. She stands accused, as i understand it. Im assuming she denies this of copy pasting some stuff from wikipedia for her latest book. Can it be true . Well, well find out with our Political Editor very shortly, gb views. Itv news. Com. All of that is coming news. Com. All of that is coming your way after your headlines with. Patrick. With polly. Patrick. Thank you. And good afternoon to you. Well, the top story today, the uks border force is in egypt with the Prime Minister confirmed that officers are ready to help british nationals escape gaza when the border reopens and cabinet ministers have held an emergency. Cobra meeting this morning to address the escalating crisis in the region. Region. The governments pushing now for a pause in the fighting, rejecting calls for a full ceasefire to facilitate aid reaching palestine. Reaching palestine. Unions, meanwhile , in gaza, unions, meanwhile, in gaza, hundreds of people are searching for bodies after another night of israeli airstrikes. The Health Ministry in the hamas controlled territory says their death toll has now passed 7000, including almost 3000 children since october the seventh. Arab nations have released a joint statement condemning what theyre describing as the forced displacement and collective punishment of palestinians , as punishment of palestinians, as israel maintains its targeting the terrorist group. But Palestinian Foreign minister riad al maliki says the bombardment wont stop until the whole strip is destroyed. This time , the war that this time, the war that israel is waging is different. This time, the war is a war of revenge. That war this war has revenge. That war this war has no. Real objective rather than no. Real objective rather than the total destruction of every liveable Little Corner place in gaza. Well, in other news today, in the United States, a manhunt is undennay after 18 people were killed by a gunman. Police in killed by a gunman. Police in the state of maine have named a 40 year old robert cod as a person of interest, describing him as armed and dangerous. This him as armed and dangerous. This local media in the United States is reporting he is a trained firearms instructor and its been confirmed by the us army that hes a sergeant in the us army reserves. The shootings happened at at least two locations one in a restaurant, one in a Bowling Alley in the city of lewiston. Businesses have been asked to close and people have been told to stay at home. Janet mills is the governor of maine. She described the communitys pain in all maine , people are sharing in the maine, people are sharing in the sorrow of the families who lost loved ones last night, loved ones , normal people who were ones, normal people who were killed or injured while unwinding from a day of work or while spending time with their family and friends socialise. Family and friends socialise. I know that the people of lewiston are enduring immeasurable pain. I wish immeasurable pain. I wish i could take that pain off your hearts , off your shoulders, but hearts, off your shoulders, but i promise you this. We will all help you carry that grief. Help you carry that grief. Now in news here at home, the Prime Minister has been warning that Artificial Intelligence poses a risk of Human Extinction on the same scale as global pandemics or nuclear war. His comments come after touring moorfields eye hospital, which uses ai moorfields eye hospital, which uses al to diagnose blindness. Uses al to diagnose blindness. 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On tv in your car , on Digital Radio tv in your car, on Digital Radio and on your Smart Speaker by saying play gb news. This is britains news channel. Britains news channel. Well , we start with that well, we start with that growing crisis in the labour party, dont we . Because they are split, it appears, and there are split, it appears, and there are serious rumours that foreshadow. Cabinet members are foreshadow. Cabinet members are on resignation. Watch and one on resignation. Watch and one shadow minister has has signed a motion today calling for the Prime Minister to press for a ceasefire this is, of course in relation to whats going on in the middle east now. Sir keir starmer held a meeting yesterday with muslim mps and peers. A large number of Labour Councillors have resigned over sir labour sir keir stance is the labour party, given that the latest polling has them 20 odd points ahead on average, are they genuinely about to implode over this and what is going to happen next . Will they end up snatching defeat from the jaws of victory . But yesterday the leader of the opposition criticised. Opposition was criticised. He went cardiff mosque at the went to a cardiff mosque at the weekend. The south wales Islamic Centre. Accused sir keir of centre. They accused sir keir of having a gravely misrepresented view of the nature of their visit. It and view of the nature of their visit. It and theres a view of the nature of their visit. It and theres a little visit. It and theres a little bit more coming your way about labour as well, which is of course a slightly lighter hearted story, but ill bring that to you second. Im that to you in a second. Im going in christopher going to bring in Christopher Hope is our political hope now, who is our Political Editor, christopher thank editor, christopher, thank you very, much. So the labour very, very much. So the labour party does appear to be kind of tearing itself up a little bit internally over this. Do you think we are going to get some resignations or is it all just all talk . All talk . Well, the party has changed under keir starmer since Jeremy Corbyn was leader when it sense the party is gearing up for power. Patrick and you and i are power. Patrick and you and i are at the Labour Party Conference in liverpool earlier this month. It felt like a party on a mission. The way they responded to the initial response, of course to attack on israel course to the attack on israel by hamas was be by hamas was was to be applauded. They they they their hearts went out to israel. There was no support for the action. Any any of that that demonstrating was outside of the of the area where we were. We were for the party conference. So but since then that that approach is starting to fracture. And thats what were seeing just yesterday when the when the keir starmer and his top team met with about 12 peers, mps from the muslim faith to talk about the approach on on on gaza and whether the line from the leadership is the correct one. Starmer himself is in some trouble. He talked about he implied some support for stopping water and petrol going into gaza. He then rowed back from that. But today we have an an early day motion gone down in parliament in which an mp called Imran Hussain, the mp for bradford east. Now he is a frontbencher, hes shadow minister working people. He minister for working people. He has signed motion that calls has signed a motion that calls for the pm and foreign secretary to parties to agree to to press all parties to agree to an immediate de escalation and cessation of hostilities. That cessation of hostilities. That is not Labour Party Policy. Is not Labour Party Policy. Labour policy is for a pause to allow some, some, some of the aid to get in, and thats the government policy too. So its not easy. Its unravelling rapidly and that may get worse if theres an invasion of gaza , if theres an invasion of gaza, more loss life, tragic loss more loss of life, tragic loss of. How will they react to of life. How will they react to that . Its for test him in that . Its a for test him in government. Theyre not there yet. If they into yet. But if they go into government, this is the kind of thing which starmer will face a lot. Exactly. Lot. Yeah, exactly. His massive test of his leadership so far, so far. The grass are not with him. Grass roots are not with him. Very shortly, im going to be talking to a Labour Party Councillor , former Labour Councillor, a former Labour Party Councillor. The second one party councillor. The second one weve this show, whos weve had on this show, whos quit this . Itll be really quit over this . Itll be really interesting to get their views as concerns by some as to why concerns by some people the Labour Party People that the labour party might be at the mercy of a certain demographic in this country as well. Seeing country as well. Were seeing people luton , bradford, people in luton, bradford, etcetera are being very, etcetera who are being very, very about this, whether very vocal about this, whether or that to keep and or not that desire to keep and maintain the muslim in this maintain the muslim vote in this country, could equate to country, which could equate to around 4 million people, by the way, actually to drive way, would actually try to drive Labour Party Policy. But christopher , while ive got you, christopher, while ive got you, there is a different story in town, isnt there . And this story involves the shadow chancellor and it could could be quite embarrassing. Well it is quite embarrassing. Well it is quite embarrassing. Well it is quite embarrassing. Now, rachel reeves, shadow chancellor , well known to chancellor, well known to viewers and is the star of the labour frontbench. She launched a book last night about about women economists and surprising them. But she gave an admission on camera at the book launch. Lets see. Lets hear what she had to say. Time to write this book. In the acknowledgements, i acknowledge the Research Assistants that i had , assistants that i had, particularly on the facts and the detail that went into the pen portrait. Its of the women pen portrait. Its of the women that i speak about, and that came from a range of sources, from books, from interviews, from books, from interviews, from articles, from wikipedia. From articles, from wikipedia. And then on top of that, its how theyve influenced me. And how theyve influenced me. And hmm, thats right. Patrick, did you hear the word wikipedia in that response . Word wikipedia in that response . Now im a father of teenagers and if they use wikipedia for their homework, im pretty cross with them. But for the shadow chancellor to using wikipedia as research for her book wasnt great. The book is called the women who made modern economics. Now the Financial Times has been through the book today and found 20 examples of what they might describe as plagiarism by the ft. Were hearing back now from from the spokesman for rachel reeves, and hes just been texting me saying there were inadvertent mistakes. Theyll be inadvertent mistakes. Theyll be rectified in future reprints. The statement of publisher. Theyre saying when factual sentences were taken from primary sources, they should have been rewritten and properly referenced. Telling referenced. Well, youre telling me mean, you dont use me i mean, you dont use wikipedia, really . Or you shouldnt wikipedia as a shouldnt use wikipedia as a source in a book . No, no, absolutely not. What kind of what kind of absolute grifter and charlatan would ever use wikipedia for information . And im sure you wouldnt, patrick, would you . No, no , not patrick, would you . No, no, not all. They dont want sacking, wouldnt they . Anyway, christopher, thank you very much. Christopher their political is in Political Editor is in westminster for us right. Look, westminster for us right. Look, the more serious story of the day, out of those two, certainly is about supposedly Labour Councillors quitting in their droves. A party in proper turmoil , potentially eating turmoil, potentially eating itself alive given their 25 or so points ahead in the polls. Are we witnessing a labour party implosion and has keir starmer got the minerals to sort it out . Im joined now by taj salam, whos one of the councillors who has resigned and over sir Keir Starmers comments initially about israel , i believe. Taj, about israel, i believe. Taj, thank you very much. There we go. And okay, so why have you resigned . Resigned . Well, patrick, thank you very much for having me. I mean, i resigned directly regarding the comments made by sir keir starmer. On the 11th of october starmer. On the 11th of october to lbc in which he has actually endorsed a genocide , in my view, endorsed a genocide, in my view, because, you know, cutting off power, cutting off electricity , power, cutting off electricity, sorry, food, cutting off fuel, cutting off water is a basic necessity for people. And those are not the values of labour party that i know. Can i could i just ask you, taj, you know, he did come out and say in the house of commons and say in the house of commons a couple of days ago that his position is very much that humanitarian aid should get through to gaza, that they should keep the electricity and the water supply going. So, i mean, he has now said the opposite of that. And youve quit to be honest with you, patrick, i think that was too late. I think hes done the damage. The damage was already done by him making those comments and he hasnt actually come out and said that there should be an immediate ceasefire. There should be a resolution politically , there should be a politically, there should be a two state resolution. When you look , i you know, i condone, you look, i you know, i condone, you know, the practises of hamas , know, the practises of hamas, those hostages that are actually in there, their grip at this moment of time should be released immediately without any condition. But sir keir starmer has actually now come out and continue addict him himself. Can i ask. I ask. Can i ask taj . So if i was one of your constituents, right. So i went out and i voted for you at the last local election. Id want to know why youve decided to quit your job because of thats happening decided to quit your job because of of thats happening decided to quit your job because of of miles happening decided to quit your job because of of miles awayening decided to quit your job because of of miles away. 1ing thousands of miles away. Well, to be honest with you, we are a party that is actually saying that we are going to police the world right . We go and we intervene in talks and our Foreign Policy actually dictates where there is injustice. People should not be actually, you know, about the injustice. What about the injustice of your residents bins not being taken out on time . What about the injustice of potholes in the road . Thats what people vote for you they dont vote for for you for. They dont vote for you. They dont vote for you. Because going on gaza , because i was going on in gaza, fully understand that. Fully understand that. Patrick but people are not losing their lives because their bins are not being emptied. This is where people are actually losing their lives , right . This losing their lives, right . This is a human catastrophe. This is is a human catastrophe. This is a genocide that is actually going on. And i actually when i when i joined the labour party, i joined the labour party on the values that it holds. I didnt values that it holds. I didnt join the labour party for actually then, you know, going and, and making sure that we side with people who oppress people. Well, okay. People. Well, okay. All right. People. Well, okay. All right. And do you think that keir starmer fit to run a country then . Country then . I dont think so. I think i think its position is compromised. Compromised. Ed okay. All right. So you ed okay. All right. So you you wouldnt vote for him. You would urge everyone who voted for you as a labour candidate at the last local election to go out and vote for someone else. Out and vote for someone else. Of course. Of course. If of course. Of course. If thats the if thats the belief thats the if thats the belief that the party holds and the leader of the party holds, then you know, i have no confidence in the party anymore. And i actually would not be going and canvassing for the party and are be canvassing for somebody else. I mean, its strong stuff. Taj very, very strong stuff. And the fact that he tried to get Jeremy Corbyn elected twice doesnt temper anything for you know , to be honest with you , know, to be honest with you, patrick, i think the distress that he has caused by making those comments on the 11th, i think he should have thought twice before he came out with those comments. You know, its really blown up, hasnt it . Its just not me. Its not me. Patrick and its just not me. Patrick and then and then , you know, to gag then and then, you know, to gag and shackle people to say that, well, you cant say anything , well, you cant say anything, you cant go anywhere. You cant attend demonstrations that that to me went a bit too far. I mean, he did also say that to, i believe, to his mps and cabinet ministers about things like train strikes or doctors strikes, nurses strikes , things strikes, nurses strikes, things like that, he said. We dont really want people pictured on picket lines. Some people , some picket lines. Some people, some people might say some people might say , right, traditionally might say, right, traditionally the labour party is the party of the labour party is the party of the working class and the working man and woman out there and particularly want and he didnt particularly want his prominent politicians being seen standing on the picket lines. And you didnt quit over that. But his view about palestine, youre a off. Do you think this is true to the labour partys roots . Tash im just partys roots . Tash im just what im getting at. What do you think . All all im saying, patrick, is, you know, i mean, i did not quit because he never told me not that. I was free to do not to do that. I was free to do what wanted in situation. What i wanted in that situation. If the mps were told that they had to make a choice, not me , had to make a choice, not me, but when hes telling me to not do something, its like im being dictated to. We are in a in a democratic society. We are in a democratic society. We are elected democratic. We are, you elected democratic. We are, you know, i mean, local leaders. And know, i mean, local leaders. And if i cannot, you know, reflect the views of my residents, then you know, what am i being why am i being in power . Would you would you call for any labour mp , any shadow any labour mp, any shadow cabinet minister now whos thinking about quitting over this . Would you call on them to this . Would you call on them to go . Go . Of course , of course. If the of course, of course. If the stance of the party does not change and the stance of the leader does not change, then unfortunately, you know, we are not being listened to as Democratic Leaders elected by, you know what i mean . The people that we serve. If we cannot reflect their views, then whats the point of being in a party that you know what i mean . We might as well not be in there. So do you think then i dont want to, to use a very, very general term for absolute everybody of a Certain Community . Of course. But but do you think that by speaking speaking quite generally, do you think the keir starmer might have lost the muslim vote in britain . Britain . Patrick i dont think its about religious vote or a community vote. I think hes going to lose a lot of votes if he does. You know, the people of liberal minds would actually turn away from the party and, you know, i mean, look, its always been perceived that the muslim vote is always been a catch blank for the labour party. But no, the people are standing in other parties. People are you know, there are muslim councillors and muslim mps in tory party, in liberals and others. So but predominantly and others. So but predominantly the Asian Community has always voted for the labour party because they saw that as their party that they would stand up for them, that they would defend them when the time comes, whether its on equality, whether its on equality, whether its on discrimination, whether its on discrimination, whether its on injustice , that whether its on injustice, that they would defend them. But the they would defend them. But the very party that they depend on then goes against their views and they against their beliefs , and they against their beliefs, then, you know, unfortunately, i think theyre going to lose a lot of votes. Would you vote for Jeremy Corbyn any time . Really . Really . Really . Yeah , because i mean, i yeah, because i mean, i suppose the minor in this because i suppose in this in this current context, right, in this current context, right, in this current context, he has come out in the past hasnt he, and said things like he, hes got friends in hamas would that not bother you know, to be honest with you, look, i dont think hes talking about a terrorist organisation that hamas has actually become or been labour. You know , hamas was you know, hamas was democratically elected by the Palestinian People and at that time, those people that was, you know, elected them. Right. They know, elected them. Right. They may have been people who were sympathetic to the to the palestinian cause. If a group of those people actually then tear away from that , you know, then away from that, you know, then you know, ive told you, i do not support hamas. I do not support their ideology. But Jeremy Corbyn had views which actually reflected just ice. Okay. Interesting interesting stuff. Taj, look, thank you very much. Its been great to have you on the show now and i hope to chat to you again soon because look, lets be honest. This issue is not going away any time so you take care, all time soon. So you take care, all right . Yourself. Right . Look after yourself. Alumna. Hes one of the councillors quit councillors who has quit over sir starmers comments sir Keir Starmers comments about israel. Fascinating that i think. Fascinating. About israel. Fascinating that i think. Fascinating. Hes about israel. Fascinating that i think. Fascinating. Hes got about israel. Fascinating that i think. Fascinating. Hes got big problems, hasnt he . 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From suffering extra emotion. Stress. Were looking after his Mental Health, are we . After everything thats happened, Patrick Christies gb news thursdays from six till 930. Thursdays from six till 930. Welcome back. Welcome back. 4 26. Youre watching or listening to me . Patrick christys on gb news. In just a few minutes time, i will have this news about another bbc controversy. Im quite angry about this, actually. As Kids Programme and is programme newsround and is criticised for teaching children about White Privilege. Right. Why why do we have to teach kids about this race ideology, this very contested . By the way, when very contested . By the way, when will newsround be doing its package on the plight of the working class white boy who appears to be underachieving . Left, right and centre never is quite possibly the answer to that. But before that, i want to talk about a couple of legal stories that are in todays news. Up, the mother of news. First up, the mother of murdered has criticised murdered toddler has criticised james bolger, has criticised the decision to hold the parole Board Hearing for one of his killers in secret. A number of killers in secret. A number of Media Organisations have asked for John Venabless two day heanng for John Venabless two day hearing next month to be held in public. Hearing next month to be held in pubuc. So hearing next month to be held in public. So venables was ten years old when he killed james. He was actually released now in 20 or sorry, in 2001, but hes currently in jail after being found guilty of possessing child abuse images. So this guy did what he did. Very young age. What he did. Very young age. Doesnt excuse what he did in my book. Anyway some people out there think that the age of criminal responsibility should be raised. Theyre sending a ten be raised. Theyre sending a ten year charging them with year old charging them with crime, convicting them of a crime, convicting them of a crime heinous somebody crime, convicting them of a criiyoung heinous somebody crime, convicting them of a criiyoung is|einous somebody crime, convicting them of a criiyoung is not us somebody crime, convicting them of a criiyoung is not accurate. Nebody crime, convicting them of a criiyoung is not accurate. Iebody crime, convicting them of a criiyoung is not accurate. I dondy so young is not accurate. I do not fall into that camp. I personally believe that you absolutely know. Certainly when you sure we all do, we you as im sure we all do, we dont need to go into the absolute vile nature of the exact nature of what happened there with little james bolger. Do we . But the manner in which they committed that crime, i think they were old enough to know they doing. And know what they were doing. And therefore, punishment therefore, the punishment should be to be out, not that be fit. That to be out, not that long aftennards. I then to be recalled again, weve had changes of identity, havent we . Massive taxpayers expense here and possessing child abuse images. Im not sure that those people get better anyway. Do they generally people that look at those kind of images, im not sure that they can ever really be cured of that. So youve got someone there who is, by most peoples metrics, i think, dangerous and evil. And there is dangerous and evil. And there is a consideration that he could be released again. That in itself is annoying. But the fact that he now will have that hearing in private to protect his Mental Health, to protect him from going through anxiety or anything like that again, have we got our priorities a bit wrong there . I dont know. What do you think . Get in touch on that one. The other story, legal story concerns the campaign to force convicted killers to appear court for their appear in court for their sentencing. So justice secretary alex chalk says that the judges will have power to make some people appear. And you will all people appear. And you will all be aware of this. Some a few prominent cases recently hasnt there, actually, where someones done something absolutely deplorable, despicable , some of deplorable, despicable, some of the worst crimes you could possibly imagine, they go through court case, they through the court case, they plead guilty. Of it plead not guilty. So out of it so long it all out. They so they long it all out. They drag put the drag it all out. They put the family absolute hell, family through absolute hell, having everything having to relive everything instead guilty having to relive everything insttgetting guilty having to relive everything insttgetting the guilty having to relive everything insttgetting the whole guilty having to relive everything insttgetting the whole thingty and getting the whole thing over with it comes to with and then boom, it comes to sentencing. They refuse to sentencing. And they refuse to appear the dock. They refuse appear in the dock. They refuse to appear in the dock. Theyre sitting theres talk, to appear in the dock. Theyre sittirthere . Theres talk, to appear in the dock. Theyre sittirthere . Should heres talk, to appear in the dock. Theyre sittirthere . Should heres ta them isnt there . Should we drag them to the dock . Should we beam the live footage of their sentencing into should we into their cell . What should we do . Add to their do . Could we add to their sentence . That doesnt work. If theyre going get full theyre going to get a full life tariff, away tariff, should we take away their privileges . These conversations their conversations that rear their head . Justice secretary conversations that rear their heacsays justice secretary conversations that rear their heacsays that justice secretary conversations that rear their heacsays that somee secretary conversations that rear their heacsays that some criminalsy now says that some criminals would use their sentencing heanng would use their sentencing hearing as a propaganda exercise. So Thomas Cashman is a good example. He murdered nine year old Olivia Pratt Korbel and hes one of a number of killers who have refused to come to the dock for their sentencing. So the concern would be that they would use it a platform to would use it as a platform to then spout things. Certainly if someone was, say, went on a political rampage or someone was a terrorist with a warped ideology , i could imagine a ideology, i could imagine a situation where theyre in the dock, theyre shouting their their radical views, i suppose. Then what you do about then what would you do about that . Gag them . Could that . Would you gag them . Could we it looks uncivilised we do that . It looks uncivilised , doesnt it . It looks un british, that the way un british, but is that the way to make sure that they hear things like victim impact statements they hear statements and that they hear the full force of the law . Vaiews gbnews. Com. But theres loads more still to come between now and five in fact. Can i just go the inbox quickly . I can. Go to the inbox quickly . I can. I yes, i can because i think yes, i can because i have had a couple of wonderful emails carols on. Emails in carols been on. Carol, very who carol, thank you very much. Who says chuffed says very chuffed that the latest figures and latest radio figures are out and theyre great. Thank very theyre great. Thank you very much. She just that much. And she just says that she wishes id read a few more emails out mine. So carol, emails out like mine. So carol, there you i wanted read emails out like mine. So carol, there thank i wanted read emails out like mine. So carol, there thank i vvery,d read emails out like mine. So carol, there thank i vvery, veryead emails out like mine. So carol, there thank i vvery, very much. That. Thank you very, very much. Oh, and lots of reaction a oh, and lots of reaction to a story to be doing story that im going to be doing next, which is the bbc and the bbc apparently stand accused of trying bbc apparently stand accused of tryin very controversial race with very controversial race based ideas. Erg talking about based ideas. Erg talking about things privilege , things like White Privilege, talking about things like White Supremacy and all of that , and supremacy and all of that, and whether or not that is a massive, massive bias. Okay. Nicks been on. He says, how strange it is that according to the bbc, hamas are only militants after 1000 people were murdered. But when 60 people are murdered. But when 60 people are killed in the uk, supposedly its terrorism. He goes on to its terrorism. He goes on to say, the bbc has always had a bias. The bbc, of course, will deny that it is biased when it comes to things like hamas. But, you know, the public have spoken on loads more still to come on that loads more still to come between now and i will between now and 5 00. I will tell you he has the bbc has tell you why he has the bbc has got itself more got itself into more controversy. But of course, first your headlines first it is now your headlines with middlehurst. With Polly Middlehurst. Patrick thank you. The top stories this hour. The uks border force is in egypt with the Prime Minister confirming officers are ready to help british nationals escape gaza when the rafah crossing opens. When the rafah crossing opens. As cabinet ministers held an emergency cobra meeting this morning to discuss the escalating crisis in the middle east. The governments pushing for a pause in fighting east. The governments pushing for a pause infighting, for a pause in fighting, rejecting calls for a full ceasefire to facilitate the delivery of that aid. Meanwhile, delivery of that aid. Meanwhile, in gaza, hundreds of people are searching for bodies after another night of israeli airstrikes. The Health Ministry airstrikes. The Health Ministry in the hamas controlled territory says the death toll has now passed 7000, including almost 3000 children since october seventh. Israel maintains its targeting the terrorist group , but arab terrorist group, but arab nafions terrorist group, but arab nations have released a joint statement condemning what they say is the collective punishment of palestinians. And in the of palestinians. And in the United States , a gunman is still United States, a gunman is still on the loose after killing 18 people and injuring 13 others in the state of maine , police are the state of maine, police are looking for 40 year old robert card, an Army Reservist whos considered to be armed and dangerous. Those are the top dangerous. Those are the top stories. More on all of them by heading to our website, gbnews. Com. Gbnews. Com. Hey , welcome back. Now, the hey, welcome back. Now, the bbc has come under fire yet again. This time its for telling children all about the controversial concept of White Privilege. A page on the bbcs website has an article with the headune website has an article with the headline White Privilege. What is it and how can it be used to help others . And further down the page the bbc asked the question, how can i use my White Privilege to help others . The privilege to help others . The suggestions from a korean american called Courtney Anne include teach other white folks. The barriers to success for people of colour. For there we people of colour. For there we go. And quite interesting , isnt go. And quite interesting, isnt it, that really the bbc would would put a very contests covid ideology out there presented it appears as fact theres quite a lot more to this story as well though, because there is a very controversial individual called kendi andrews, who has has written in and said some things in terms of like white psychosis, very controversial views. The kind of thing, frankly, i think if anyone of a different race said about somebody another somebody else of another race, you yourself in very, you would find yourself in very, very hot water. But now bbc newsround is under fire for teaching White Privilege as fact to children. And in no small to children. And in no small part is because of the ideology that this individual puts out there. Joining me now is dr. Alka sehgal. Cuthbert who is the director of dont divide us. Dr. Alka. Thank you very, very much. Alka. Thank you very, very much. Do you think the bbc should be teaching White Privilege as basically a statement of fact . Basically a statement of fact . No, of course it shouldnt. No, of course it shouldnt. Its extremely divisive. Its its extremely divisive. Its anti education. If you have a anti education. If you have a look at the websites, its at best theres very selective content on there from history. Content on there from history. But most of it is nothing more than just pure assertion. And it than just pure assertion. And it seems the only academic theyre giving a free and open platform to is a professor andrews is a professor of black studies. Um, professor of black studies. Um, and theres no opposing view offered at all. In fact, the very possibility that there might be a different view isnt even acknowledged on any of the newsround website. Its i mean, newsround website. Its i mean, it is. Its really quite a unjustifiable, i think, in any terms. So, so Kehinde Andrews is a professor of black studies at Birmingham City university city, and he leads the black studies association. He has released a association. He has released a video which is on newsround. Newsround asked him to do a video talking about what White Privilege is. He says, White Privilege is. He says, White Privilege means not having to worry about racism. I would i would contest that slightly. It says for me, White Privilege is the benefits that you get from being white. If youre an ethnic minority. There are certain disadvantages you have for example, youre more likely to be unemployed and White Privilege is not having to deal with racism , he goes on. Theres with racism, he goes on. Theres quite a lot of this. Do you think theres any truth to that . Think theres any truth to that . No, i dont. Not not the way that thats formulated. No i mean, you know, the thing about never having to experience racism , um, well, i mean , all i racism, um, well, i mean, all i could just say is , so what as an could just say is, so what as an individual , could just say is, so what as an individual, no one will ever. Youre never experienced what i experience or vice versa. But, you know, we can talk. We have you know, we can talk. We have language, we have, you know, all kinds of ways of communicating and the kind of use, the flinging about of, you know, a single statistic stick as if that incontrovertible inco ntroverti bly that incontrovertible incontrovertibly true proves the existence of racism is just silly. You know, i mean , it silly. You know, i mean, it wouldnt pass muster in a first year associate course. So its incredible to think a professor and or the bbc are, um, are using are using them in this way really and theyre presenting that to children. Ive got five things here as ive got five things here that kids are being told to do. And kids are being told to do. And when i think back when i was younger and i used to watch newsround or i used to digest it, some of the bbcs online content as a as a young child , content as a as a young child, right. I absolutely was not thinking critically at these ages. Thinking critically at these ages. I would have looked at ages. I would have looked at this and taken anything that i saw as absolute fact. Whether or not i acted on that was up to me. But i would have taken what they were saying to me as fact. But theyve gone. What should i do with my White Privilege . So do with my White Privilege . So there you go, straight off the bat. Every Single Person whos white has some form of white has got a some form of privilege. Thats what would privilege. Thats what i would take away from that. Teach other white the barriers to white folks the barriers to success for people of colour. Promise to listen to and amplify the voices of people of colour. Be more than not racist, be actively anti racist to confront racial injustices even when its uncool , laughable. Theres uncool, laughable. Theres obviously one more there as well. But not not racist. Be active. Be anti racist, you active. Be anti racist, you know, does the bbc have a duty to be telling children this kind of stuff . Do you think . Of stuff . Do you think . No, it doesnt. Its duty is to is to educate, inform and entertain and to be impartial and to help understanding of the world. Presenting this material is not only presenting a false understanding of the world, its presenting a really divisive ideology to very young children. Ideology to very young children. Weve had a weve had emails from parents whose children have come back from school, primary school. And recently there was school. And recently there was one just just the other day and the parents saying her daughter either, um, doesnt want to be white because shes been told at school to be white is to belong to a group that kills black people. Why what kind of National Public service funded by the public does , you know, by the public does, you know, thinks thats okay to be putting out there . When i look at when i look at so im on the bbc website right now the page that this is all on. I scroll down it on. Okay and i scroll down it and it goes more on this story. Who was malcolm x and then what cha special program on us protests and racism with a massive picture of george floyd. There as well. You know, are they giving out quite a skewed view here of potential reality when it comes to Race Relations . When it comes to Race Relations . Lions and also events . Lions and also events . I think they really are , i think they really are, patrick. I mean, and it kind of breaks my heart because when i think of, you know, there are certainly instances you can pick out, as andrews does. And one of his things, you know, race riots in britain and he talks about the 1919 killing of the black man in liverpool, another other riots. But what he doesnt say riots. But what he doesnt say is during the exact same time , is during the exact same time, immigrants were arriving in britain and were integrating and getting on very well with their lives in sheffield and other places. Theres historical evidence that supports that. He evidence that supports that. He doesnt talk about how in in dunng doesnt talk about how in in during the second world war, white White Working Class people stood up with the black gis to fight alongside them against their officers. Um so, you know, there are so many it is, you know, all about slavery, you know, all about slavery, you know, who was it that brought the manumission of Frederick Douglass . It was the people of rochdale. You know, the quakers who got who got together and organised that. So i think, you organised that. So i think, you know, to be really to be impartial , know, to be really to be impartial, you need to present a fuller history picture. I mean, there is what were getting there is literally on this page a link to the White Privileged tiktok challenge. Seriously with the phrase White Privilege is real on it. So this is so children access. All of is so children access. All of this will be confronted by a bloke called Kehinde Andrews who is the professor of black studies at Birmingham City university who believes in things like white psychosis and all of this stuff and is very vocal about saying that on national television. They will then stuff about white then see stuff about White Privilege real. They will privilege being real. They will then that have to then be told that they have to be racist and then they can be anti racist and then they can go and read things about malcolm x floyd, and this x and george floyd, and this is all state broadcasters all on our state broadcasters website out there. I do think its potentially quite dangerous actually. But look, thank you very, very much. Its great to have the show. I could have you on the show. I could talk to you all day, but we are we of time now. So dr. We are out of time now. So dr. Gail there, who is the Gail Cuthbert there, who is the director of dont divide us. Get your views coming that. Your views coming in on that. Go to the inbox shortly, gbviews gbnews. Com. There gbviews gbnews. Com. But there is a stark from sunak a stark warning from rishi sunak today. Artificial today. He says that Artificial Intelligence could be used to build chemical or biological weapons. Mean, its massive. Weapons. I mean, its massive. Before thought they were before i just thought they were going peoples jobs going to take peoples jobs or, you it going to, oh, you know, it was going to, oh, i dont know, end up doing something fruity on my computer. But we they but no. Now, apparently we they can help build chemical and biological weapons and do goodness knows what with them. Goodness knows what with them. Patrick christys gb news. This is britains news channel. Sunday mornings from 930 on. Gb news. Welcome back. It is 446. Youre watching or listening to me. Patrick christys on gb news. Now at five, i will ask whether foreign nationals who glorify islamist terrorism should be deported. The vast majority of people in a new poll say that they should. So where does the controversy be . Why arent the government acting . Why are the government acting . Why are the government bang in favour . It seems im the opposition for that matter. Of. The four 4 of that matter. Of. The four 4 of people who want them to stay. And as if it wasnt bad news for the world right now, but rishi sunak put the icing on the cake today because he is warned that the dangers posed by Artificial Intelligence could threaten our very existence. Very existence. Get this wrong, an an ai could make it easier to build chemical or biological weapons. Terrorist groups could use ai chemical or biological weapons. Terrorist groups could use al to spread fear and destruction on an even greater scale. Criminals an even greater scale. Criminals could exploit ai for Cyber Attacks , disinformation, fraud, attacks, disinformation, fraud, or even child sexual abuse. And or even child sexual abuse. And in the most unlikely but extreme cases, there is even the risk that humanity could lose control of ai completely through the kind of ai sometimes referred to as superintelligence. As superintelligence. Right . As superintelligence. Right . Chair is that one . Im joined now by conor lee. He is the ceo of ai firm conjecture. The ceo of ai firm conjecture. All right, then, conor, so on a scale of 1 to 10, how likely is it all that al is going to be the end of the world for us . Well, that depends as we do something about it. If we do nothing about it, id say at ten we do something about it. Well, we do something about it. Well, we could get it down to a zero. Depends how arbitrarily depends on how arbitrarily seriously, if we we just seriously, if we so if we just sat back now, in your view and did nothing about the thing that we created, it would kill us all . Absolutely. Its quite simple really. If you build something, if you build a machine that is more competent than humans at manipulation, deception , politics, science, deception, politics, science, business, everything else, and you dont control it, which we dont know how to do, then the future will belong to them, not to us. Its really that simple. To us. Its really that simple. Yeah. Another worrying thing you just said there, mate, is that we dont know how to control it. Indeed that we dont know how to control it. Indeed this is the core problem is that, you know, we could get good things out of ai. You know, theres a lot of great science to be done, but fundamentally, the systems are getting more autonomous, more generally intelligent , get generally intelligent, get better better at better at deception, better at manipulating humans, better at inventing new technologies, potentially building biological or chemical weapons , or even or chemical weapons, or even worse. And our ability to control them is not improving. Control them is not improving. Well how come it wants to deceive us . This is what was one of the many things about al that i think is quite obvious. I dont understand. So why would this thing decide to develop things like deception . Like deception . Because its useful if these systems are given tasks to solve. They were building them to do work to make money, to do whatever. And in the process of doing that, manipulating humans is a very useful and if youre very smart and youre really good at manipulating humans, well, you could you well, you could become, you know, head of state, you could become a billionaire, you could get things. Just get lots of things. Its just a useful thing to do. Its not that the ais are evil, its not that the ais are evil, its not that they want to hurt people. Its that they dont care. Its that they dont care. Theyre sociopathic. They have no. They dont care no emotions. They dont care about good evil. About good or evil. I know a few people like that , to be fair. Connor. So so in terms of building a biological weapon, again , how how would weapon, again, how how would they go about doing that . Because i like to think at some point someone would, would spot that like, hey, wheres that, wheres that robot going with that, with that nuke , you know . That, with that nuke, you know . Well i would sure hope so. But the truth is, if the robot is much smarter than you, who what they would do . Who knows what they would do . Unfortunately, genetic unfortunately, the genetic sequence smallpox sequence for smallpox is available online, so you can go download it right now and you can synthesise it in a lab. Canadian researchers have successfully from scratch synthesised an extinct version of smallpox called horsepox in a lab. This. Yes. Thank you. Thank lab. This. Yes. Thank you. Thank you for saying this. This is my exact reaction. This winds me up. No, seriously, connor, this really does. This really does. This stuff winds me up. You read about this . Read about that. About this . I read about that. So youve extinct version so youve got an extinct version of virus or whatever it is of a virus or whatever it is that could us all right. That could kill us all right. What of it goes . Im going what kind of it goes . Im going to. Im going to go and revive this thing. Like, why do people this thing. Like, why do people do this . And weve created ai, weve all seen the films. Connon weve all seen the films. Connor. We know how this ends. Yep, yep. I agree. Its really its really crazy. Like, you know, really crazy. Like, you know, the Prime Minister literally today acknowledged the extinction risk that the death of you, me , our kids, everyone of you, me, our kids, everyone from superintelligence at this point, we all agree that were playing russian roulette. Were playing russian roulette. Were just quibbling about how many pulls away. The bullet is currently the government and big tech big tech is pushing policies that they call responsible scaling, which is a policy that basically says, well , were allowed to keep doing this, keep building more and more powerful ais until at some future point we see dangerous signs of some kind and the government needs to prove that not us. This is crazy. Like this not us. This is crazy. Like this is saying lets keep pulling until we find the bullet. Yeah yeah. No, it is. And it is actually very revealing. Actually very revealing. Weirdly, our creation and then use of Artificial Intelligence is so revealing about our own intelligence as human beings. Actually look. Thank you very much, connor. Great stuff. Really a pleasure to have you on. And i hope we talk soon. If we stay alive, thats gonna lead. Ceo of ai firm lead. Hes the ceo of ai firm conjecture. Got some conjecture. Ive got some breaking news for you now with our Political Editor, christopher. Okay. Wow. Christopher hope. Okay. Wow. Christopher hope. Okay. Wow. Christopher what is the latest, please . Please . Yeah, patrick, theres a statement out from Surrey Police saying that they can confirm a man was arrested yesterday morning in horley on suspicion of rape and possession of controlled substances. Hes been controlled substances. Hes been released conditional bail released on conditional bail pending now, pending further enquiries. Now, newspapers , the sun and the newspapers, the sun and the guardian are reporting that this man is a prominent conservative mp arrested on a rape allegation. We know nothing more than that and of course we cant speculate about identity, but this another issue for mr this is another issue for mr sunak. The this is another issue for mr sunak. The pm, rishi sunak and his government. Yeah, what can his government. Yeah, what can you say . I mean , again, a purely you say . I mean, again, a purely an investigation. No, no , no, no an investigation. No, no, no, no more than that. But its a real issue. I think, for tory party. One of one of discipline and the further, further issue here in terms of how this party is running, running, running the government. Okay. Look, christopher, people who have just joined us, this is pretty major breaking news. Just reiterate that. So a conservative mp is believed to have been arrested on suspicion of correct. Where and of rape. Correct. Where and where the arrest again . Where was the arrest again . Sorry the arrest. Sorry the arrest. The arrest happened in hawley on suspicion of rape and some form of drugs. Find it now. But form of drugs. Find it now. But were getting a statement right now from Surrey Police. Okay. On now from Surrey Police. Okay. On suspicion of rape and possession of controlled substances have been released on conditional bail pending further enquiries. Bail pending further enquiries. This could be a big issue as it goes fonnard into and it could trigger a by election. Of course, if anything happens further to it. All right, christopher, thank you will get more you very much. We will get more on breaking story on this big breaking news story and that to you as and well bring that to you as and well bring that to you as and when we get it. Christopher hope there, Political Editor hope there, our Political Editor in yeah, in westminster. Yeah, conservative been conservative mp has been arrested on suspicion of rape and possession controlled and possession of a controlled substance. It has since been substance. It has since been released on conditional bail. Released on conditional bail. There we go. That mp is not as yet being named now almost three quarters of people think that foreign nationals who glorify islamist terrorism should be deported. Thats the latest from a poll. Well, im to going be having a look at whether or not the government should be acting on opposition should the government should be acting on acting opposition should the government should be acting on acting on opposition should the government should be acting on acting on this. Sition should the government should be acting on acting on this. Just| should the government should be acting on acting on this. Just 4 uld the government should be acting on acting on this. Just 4 ofd be acting on this. Just 4 of people think that they should be able are we giving able to stay. Why are we giving in a very small, very fringe in to a very small, very fringe group . Patrick christys gb news britains channel. Hello again. Welcome to your latest gb news weather update from the met office. Well further office. Well see further rain and showers through the rest of the day, particularly across North Eastern areas. Thats North Eastern areas. Thats because low pressure is very much in charge. Its staying to the west of the uk but thats going to push a sequence of fronts us over the next fronts across us over the next few days. And into next week as well. Now that rain will persist across northeastern areas, theres still a warning in force. All the way through until saturday here across Southern Coasts as well. Continue to see coasts as well. Continue to see some of those showers through this evening. However, inland itll and that will itll turn drier and that will allow some and fog to allow some mist and fog to develop for central such develop for central areas such as midlands and east anglia, as the midlands and east anglia, too. So a bit of a murky start on friday morning here, but it will be dry for these central areas. Elsewhere, though, across areas. Elsewhere, though, across the south and the northeast staying rather wet through tomorrow. Some quite blustery tomorrow. Some quite blustery and heavy showers across the south coast and across the northeast, particularly eastern scotland, where that warnings in force. Rainfall totals will continue to build up. Now temperatures are a little bit below average for the time of year with the best of any sunshine, it wont feel too bad in central areas on saturday. Again, sunshine will be fairly limited for most areas with a lot and showers around lot of cloud and showers around in the southeast, well see some quite rain as well as quite persistent rain as well as in northern wales and in northern ireland, wales and eastern scotland through sunday. Further weather is to come further wet weather is to come and there will be little change into the start of next week with more rain good evening. Its 5 pm. Its Patrick Christys gb news. We start with that big breaking news that we brought to you just seconds ago. A conservative mp seconds ago. A conservative mp has been arrested on suspicion of rape and bailed. They are not being named for legal reasons. Being named for legal reasons. In other news, should we be deporting people who back terrorist organisation . Foreign terrorist organisation . Foreign nationals living in britain who backed terrorist organisations . A new poll says that nearly three quarters of you think that we should. Okay, fine. In fact, we should. Okay, fine. In fact, only 4 think that we shouldnt. Im sorry, but why is this government and the opposition and politicians and some aspects of the media pandering to a fraction of the British Population when it comes to not standing up for justice population when it comes to not standing up forjustice and standing up for justice and National Security . In other news, well be talking about this as well. 30 say that trans women are women. I think thats quite a large number of people, isnt it . In the uk at the moment, 30 of people think that trans women can be women. Trans women can be women. Fascinating. And steve coogan. Yes hes in hot water. Why . Well its because he has called royalists people who like the monarchy, flag waving idiots. A monarchy, flag waving idiots. A really steve, its not a hell youre choosing to die on. Very strange stuff. Do you like the monarchy . Do you think that youre flag idiot . And youre a flag waving idiot . And as going to be as well, were going to be talking about this. Dont cancel christmas. Thats the yes. Christmas. Thats the plea. Yes. A Christmas Market, a kind of christmas. Do, as it were, at a christmas. Do, as it were, at a very famous museum, has taken the word christmas out of it. Were in winterval territory, arent we . Its a festive day. Yeah, i know. I hate it, too. It should just be christmas. Patrick christys. Gb news. Gb Patrick Christys. Gb news. Gb views. Gbnews. Com get them coming in. Look, quite a lot to go out there. Ill be with you just after we hear your headunes just after we hear your headlines with Polly Middlehurst i patrick. Thank you. Well, the top stories this hour. The uks border force is in egypt with the Prime Minister confirming officers are ready to help british nationals escape gaza when the border reopens. And when the border reopens. And here cabinet ministers held an emergency cobra meeting this morning to address the escalating crisis in the middle east. The governments pushing now for a pause in fighting east. The governments pushing now for a pause infighting, now for a pause in fighting, rejecting calls for a full ceasefire to facilitate aid reaching the palestinians. Well in gaza, people have been searching through the rubble for bodies after another night of airstrikes. The Health Ministry in the hamas controlled territory saying there death toll has now passed 7000. And they say that include almost 3000 children born since october the 7th. Meanwhile while irans foreign minister has claimed hamas is ready to release hostages as and the world should support the release of 6000 palestine indian prisoners. That palestine indian prisoners. That comes as arab nations released a joint statement earlier condemning what theyre describing as the forced displacement and collective punishment of palestine , as punishment of palestine, as israel maintains its targeting the terrorist group hamas. But the terrorist group hamas. But the Palestinian Ambassador to the Palestinian Ambassador to the un, Riyad Mansour , has the un, Riyad Mansour, has criticised countries for failing to condemn israels response is why some feel so much pain for israelis and so little pain for us. Us. Us. The palestinians , as what is the palestinians, as what is the problem . Do we have the the problem . Do we have the wrong faith . How can representatives of states explain how how horrible it is that 1000 israelis were killed and not feel the same outrage when 1000 palestinians are now killed every day. In the united killed every day. In the United States, a manhunt is undennay after 18 people were killed by a gunman which left 13 more injured. Police in the state of maine have named 40 year old robert card as their person of interest, describing him as armed and dangerous. This local armed and dangerous. This local media is reporting that hes a trained firearms instructor there and the us army has confirmed that hes in the us army reserves. The shootings happenedin army reserves. The shootings happened in at least two locations one, a restaurant, one a Bowling Alley in the city of lewiston. Well, businesses in the area have been asked to close and people have been told to stay at home. Janet mills is the governor of maine. She described the communitys pain at a News Conference earlier. At a News Conference earlier. All maine people are sharing in the sorrow of the families who lost loved ones last night , who lost loved ones last night, loved ones , normal people who loved ones, normal people who were killed or injured while unwinding from a day of work or while spending time with their family or friends, socialising. Family or friends, socialising. I know that the people of lewiston are enduring immeasurable pain. I wish immeasurable pain. I wish i could take that pain off your hearts off your shoulders, but i promise you this we will all help you carry that grief off. Well turning our attentions to news here at home and the Prime Minister has warned that Artificial Intelligence could threaten Human Extinction on the same scale as global pandemics or nuclear war. His comments come after touring moorfields eye hospital, which uses ai touring moorfields eye hospital, which uses al to diagnose sight problems. Speaking at the Royal Society in london, rishi sunak said humanity could lose control of ai and terrorist groups could use it to spread fear and destruction. He also announced the formation of the worlds first Ai Safety Institute in the uk to explore the risks and share the data with the world. Get this wrong and i could make it easier to build chemical or biological weapons or terrorist groups could use ai or biological weapons or terrorist groups could use al to spread fear and destruction on an even greater scale. Criminals an even greater scale. Criminals could exploit ai for Cyber Attacks , disinformation, fraud attacks, disinformation, fraud or even child sexual abuse. And or even child sexual abuse. And in the most unlikely but extreme cases , there is even the risk cases, there is even the risk that humanity could lose control of ai completely through the kind of ai sometimes referred to as superintelligence. As superintelligence. Rishi sunak speaking there. Now, two medics have been arrested on suspicion of criminal damage after a Just Stop Oil protest at Londons Natural History Museum in front of dozens of shocked tourists. Activists sprayed what they said was orange corn flour over a reproduction dinosaur skeleton. Reproduction dinosaur skeleton. They then displayed a banner which read , for healths sake, which read, for healths sake, Just Stop Oil. The incident comes just one day after the group staged a similar stunt at londons grade one listed wellington arch that resulted in three arrests. Now the number of cars built in the uk increased by almost 40 last month. The society of Motor Manufacturers and traders says more than 88,000 vehicles left uk factories. Thats 25,000 more factories. Thats 25,000 more than september last year. Exports also increased by a third, with almost 6 in 10 cars going to the european union. Going to the european union. Now, lets just bring you a little bit more detail on that breaking news that patrick was referring to earlier on. We can tell you that its being reported that prominent reported that a prominent conservative mp has been arrested over an allegation of rape. The politician who were not naming for legal reasons , is not naming for legal reasons, is said to have been quizzed by Police Yesterday. Surrey police has confirmed a man was arrested yesterday morning in horley on suspicion of rape and possession of controlled substances and that hes been released on conditional police bail pending further enquiries. Those are all the details we have at the moment. We will bring you more on it as we have it. Youre with gb news across the uk on tv, in your car, on Digital Radio and on your Smart Speaker by saying play gb news. This is britains news channel. News channel. Well, we start with the huge news that we broke just a few minutes ago and its been reported that a top tory mp has been arrested on suspicion of rape. We can speak now with our Political Editor, Christopher Hope. Christopher, this is very much a breaking news story. What do we know or whats been reported . So far then . Reported . So far then . So, patrick, we know a few things. Lets be very clear and careful about this. We know there are reports that the individual arrested is a tory mp. Thats reported by two different news outlets. Theres a statement from Surrey Police confirming arrested confirming a man was arrested yesterday morning, 25th of october on suspicion of rape and possession of controlled substances. That person. The man substances. That person. The man has been released on conditional police bail pending further enquiries. The tory party when enquiries. The tory party when weve gone to them, wont comment. So those are police statements news and from statements to gb news and from the party and from the police. No more than that. Its further reminder , i think, of the issue reminder, i think, of the issue that we are seeing on repeatedly with the tory party moment, with mps falling falling foul mps having falling falling foul of serious issues, in some cases investigations. It may lead investigations. It may lead nowhere, it may lead to prosecution. We dont know. Its very early stages, but its just further indicates , i think, to further indicates, i think, to voters, to people that the tory party is feeling a bit a bit a bit a bit in freefall. Half the time. Okay. All right. And its been reported that this individual was questioned by Police Yesterday and as i understand it, again, according to reports, has been released on condition all bail. And is not being named for legal reasons. Yes thats correct. Yes thats correct. And thats quite common nowadays that we in the media dont name these individuals until there might be a charging point. And that can be a long way in the future for we dont know any further to what this individual dont know if individual is. We dont know if the whips asked this the whips have asked asked this band away from band to stay away from parliament. We dont know that we reported to mp and we hes reported to be an mp and were to establish that were trying to establish that ourselves. Sells for news ourselves. Our sells for gb news as s0 ourselves. Our sells for gb news as so we were very broken as well. So we were very broken the last 20 minutes. Okay. Look, christopher, thank for that to thank you for bringing that to us. Go back to us. We will go back to Christopher Hope there. Our Political Editor, for any updates, indeed there are updates, if indeed there are any. Christopher, thank you very,. Right. Okay. Very, very much. Right. Okay. Theres loads of other news about today. Of course. And one about today. Of course. And one of top ones is about some of the top ones is about some polling data thats been conducted which shows that 70 or more, 74 of people think the foreign nationals who are are sympathetic towards the views of the terrorist organisations should should be removed from britain. And it got me thinking britain. And it got me thinking really. I mean, surely we have to get foreign nationals in britain who support terrorism on the first plane out of here. And if the human rights brigade wants to block that plane on the tarmac, well they can get gone as cant why should as well, cant they . Why should that controversial . Why so that be controversial . Why so here is the latest data, nearly three quarters of people think that foreign nationals who glorify terrorism should be deported from the uk. So thats an ovennhelming majority of people for the controversial view should be keeping them here. The controversial view should be trying to help bring them back into britain, shouldnt it . Like the case of shamima begum, which is ongoing at moment. Fact, when you at the moment. In fact, when you really at numbers, 74 really look at the numbers, 74 of all agreed that of people all agreed that foreign terror support should be removed. I think the most important figure for me is that 4 disagreed. Just 4, 11 said they didnt know. So just 4 would keep them here. Now, im sure that plenty of you listening to this right now may well be thinking that perhaps they should have their hard drives. So wouldnt drives checked. So you wouldnt be would you . And be alone in that, would you . And before usual types on social before the usual types on social media start banging on at me now about is a hard about how this is a hard right far were all far right issue were all a bunch frothing , great big. Bunch of frothing, great big. Well, look, the data shows that 70 labour voters 70 of labour voters would deport well. And 73 of deport them as well. And 73 of remainers. So there you go. That remainers. So there you go. That is a heck of a lot of far right bigots, isnt it . This is the prime example for me of our politicians needing to get out a little more. The little bit more. It is the ovennhelming majority view of people right across the political spectrum that if you support a foreign terror group, you should be deported or we should kind mass should do some kind of mass pubuc should do some kind of mass public Lie Detector Test or probably ask people probably just ask people actually, plenty actually, im sure plenty of them openly you. And them would openly tell you. And if out that they have if it turns out that they have sympathy for taliban , which sympathy for the taliban, which a people apparently a lot of people apparently helping with our Counter Terrorism prevent scheme, al qaeda or isis scheme, do, or al qaeda or isis or hamas or anyone like that, then i think they should be on then i think they should be on the first plane out of here. Now, of course , by this logic, now, of course, by this logic, there is a chance that we may have had to deport former have had to deport the former leader labour party, but leader of the labour party, but that the end that wouldnt have been the end of now, would we of the world, now, would it . We could at least do it with channel migrants. Okay. If they are countries are coming from countries where terror we terror groups are prominent, we need to dont we need need to know, dont we . We need to what their views to know what their views are. The that is the reality is that there is a very fringe group of about 4 of people in britain. One would people in britain. One would imagine the majority of them are either hardcore charity activists, lawyers on the take or actual terrorist group sympathisers themselves. They make a lot of noise. Theyre big on social media. They really pipe pl on social media. They really pipe up, dont they . They make it seem like theres probably tens of millions of them out there. But the fact is there isnt. So ignore them and isnt. So just ignore them and do in the best interests do whats in the best interests of britain. Think the idea of britain. I think the idea politics have that they couldnt possibly start deporting more people because theyd be outrage. There would be outrage. Well, there would be outrage. Well, there would be outrage but would outrage outrage, but it would be outrage amongst a small group of idiots who probably very angry who are probably very angry about life in general anyway. So just it should just ignore them. It should absolutely not be controversial to get islamist terrorists out of britain and to do more to stop them coming in if they like those groups so much. I personally would be quite happy to pay for their flying ticket to pay for their flying ticket to wherever their jihadi mates live. Vaiews gbnews. Com ill go live. Vaiews gbnews. Com ill go into the inbox shortly. Keep those views coming in. But just in case you needed reminding, here is a little clip of some of the protesters calling for jihad last weekend. Last weekend. What is the solution to liberate people in the concentration camps . Royal palestine jihad . What is the solution to jihad. Solution to jihad. Jihad , our top bunch of lads jihad, our top bunch of lads joined now by political commentator suzanne evans. Suzanne , thank you very much. Suzanne, thank you very much. And so are 74 of people think that foreign nationals living in britain who support a terror group should just be deported. Group should just be deported. Why arent we doing more of this . Well, thats a very good question. Question. I think my only surprise, patrick, is that its not more, to be honest. And as you said earlier, there are 4 of people that actually disagree with that. Find that incomprehensible i find that incomprehensible bazball we have a situation whereby. Whereby. Right, okay, were going to just sit down. Im very sorry about this. Weve got a slight issue with your line there. So what well try and do go back what well try and do is go back to suzanne, which gives me the perfect to to suzanne, which gives me the pe|something to to suzanne, which gives me the pe|something that to to suzanne, which gives me the pe|something that really to to suzanne, which gives me the pe|something that really enjoy do something that i really enjoy doing, to you doing, which is talk to you wonderful people directly. Thank you everybody whos you very much. Everybody whos been so been emailed in. Right. Okay. So loads have getting loads of you have been getting in ive just in touch about what ive just said firmly believe that said. I firmly believe that bannau waving fools. This is from jim should be deported. From jim should be deported. This is about the people talking about jihad and muslim armies aboutjihad and muslim armies and stuff. But it begs the question where to now . I think question where to now . I think that convicted of that people convicted of terrorism should be deported when finish sentence , when they finish their sentence, along with family , back to along with their family, back to the third generation. Jim, you cant go around doing things like that. Youd have to do if youre to it over, be youre going to do it over, be the is responsible the person who is responsible for the crime. Okay but you make the good point, jim. Where do you send them . Where do you send them . Because you know, lets say say that they came say lets say that they came from afghanistan. Okay. From afghanistan. Okay. Hypothetically here. And then they end up on the streets of britain then shock britain and then they shock horror , support the taliban. Horror, support the taliban. Right. Do we send them right. Well, do we send them back to afghanistan now . I would probably come on side probably come down on the side of if theyre of yes. And surely if theyre sympathetic towards the views of the there wouldnt the taliban, then there wouldnt be rights issues. Be any human rights issues. There although im there would there . Although im sure find some im sure sure we would find some im sure that would find some lots that people would find some lots of people getting in touch, jackie says. Im a bit scared that our country is slowly being taken over , and jackie says that taken over, and jackie says that we cant even mention christmas anymore and we wont be able to go to any festival from remembrance to Christmas Markets. God help us, says jackie. I think, jackie, we have to try to stay a bit positive. It is easy. Im guilty of this all the time. Okay . Im guilty of this all the time to get bogged down in the negative aspect of it and to be very concerned. Very angry concerned. I get very angry actually, things. Actually, about certain things. And why we and you think, well, why are we changing christmas changing the names of Christmas Markets to winter festival centres and stuff like this . Why cant we word christmas, cant we use the word christmas, especially other especially when we see other things out there being celebrated with pride quite literally. Of pride, literally. In the case of pride, but other religious but also certain other religious ceremonies, whether its diwali , ceremonies, whether its diwali, whether its ramadan, whether its all things thats its all of those things thats celebrated, why cant it celebrated, why cant we do it all . We have to remove all . Why do we have to remove things and why should somebody be offended the word be offended by having the word christmas of christmas at the time of christmas at the time of christmas every single year . Now, i agree you, jackie. Now, i agree with you, jackie. We weak, in my we shouldnt be so weak, in my view. Complete view. But dont lose complete and faith in britain. And utter faith in britain. Loads people, of course , loads of people, of course, still talking about the still talking now about the terror supporters topic. We should really on the ball should be really on the ball with deport them as the with this and deport them as the way its going. There could be civil war. This is from dave and dave. I civil war. This is from dave and dave. I wouldnt well, i mean , dave. I wouldnt well, i mean, hopefully i obviously dont think that we will descend into actual civil war, but i share your views in the sense of being concerned about it. I think whats happened with this latest conflict that were seeing going on abroad at moment with on abroad at the moment with israel hamas hit home in israel and hamas has hit home in a much more significant way that i can think of anything any other global event recently here on the streets of britain. I think it ties in a huge amount of issues all one of different issues all in one go. I it ties in go. I think it ties in integration , multiculturalism. I integration, multiculturalism. I think it ties in the potential terror threat. It ties in law and order. It ties in with the effectiveness of our police force. It ties in the political leanings of some people in in the parties, such as whats going on in labour at the moment. And it appears to bring it all together, doesnt it, in one neat, but horrible one neat, neat but horrible little i think youre little bow. And i think youre right be concerned. Im right to be concerned. Im more concerned been concerned than ive been for a very long time. Vaiews gbnews. Com you get in touch your views. Touch with all of your views. I do to hear from you, but do love to hear from you, but you loads more on that you can get loads more on that story on our website. Gbnews. Com you can get loads more on that story orfastestzbsite. Gbnews. 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That is not far off being a third of the population. Think that a bloke can be a woman . Is that a bloke can be a woman . Is that a bloke can be a woman . Is that a concern . Patrick christys gb news, britains News Channel Co weeknights. From. Six co weeknights. From. Six welcome back. It is 5 23. Youre watching or listening to me. Patrick christys on gb news. In a few moments time i will get reaction to Steve Coogans claim that people who like the royal family are flag waving idiots. I know. Oh, but its a question that has tripped up a of that has tripped up a load of politicians for some reason i cant for the life of me see why genuinely, especially from the left. Weird though, isnt it . It sounds like a basic question. Let this to you now. What let me ask this to you now. What is a woman . Yeah, the answer is easy, isnt it . Well, sir keir starmer changed in starmer stance has changed in recent times. But labours recent times. But labours leader , mark drakeford, leader in wales, mark drakeford, former Scotland First minister nicola sturgeon. They say that nicola sturgeon. They say that someone born a male can be a woman. And a new gb news poll has found that a significant number of people agree with them. 30 agreed that someone who was biologically male at birth but now identifies as a woman is indeed a woman. Right. Woman is indeed a woman. Right. So 30, a lot of people isnt it a heck of a lot of people. Im joined now by caroline fiske, who is the founder of conservatives for women. Were going go to caroline in just going to go to caroline in just a second. You could look at a second. So you could look at it right. So 70 of it and go, right. So 70 of people still think that someone who born a man cant be who was born a man cant be a woman. Thats fine. The worlds in great shape. Weve not lost our marbles. Just yet. However, i would argue that nearly 1 in 3 people, almost nearly 1 in 3 people, almost nearly 1 in 3 people Walking Around thinking people, almost nearly 1 in 3 pe0| me,alking around thinking people, almost nearly 1 in 3 pe0| me, were| around thinking people, almost nearly 1 in 3 pe0| me, were a|round thinking people, almost nearly 1 in 3 pe0| me, were a bitnd thinking people, almost nearly 1 in 3 pe0| me, were a bit of thinking people, almost nearly 1 in 3 pe0| me, were a bit of alinking people, almost nearly 1 in 3 pe0| me, were a bit of a frockg that me, were a bit of a frock on may be and saying im a woman now would make me a woman. Its concerning. Okay. Its concerning. Okay. Its concerning. However, that does not necessarily reveal how many of those people would be happy to have me in a dress in their changing room. So maybe we. There are fewer of them. Caroline does join me now. Caroline, first, who is the founder of conservatives for women. Good stuff. So all you concerned by these figures , 30 concerned by these figures, 30 think that a man can be a woman. Yes. Yes. Think that its possibly that its asked quite flippantly outside of context. So wouldnt take the result to seriously. To seriously. I would like to see it in a much more detailed context being asked, but to take your question at face value, yes , i think it at face value, yes, i think it is obviously concerning. If a dialogue has moved so far that people are willing to answer a question, a woman has a very clear meaning and it means somebody biological sex. So by definition , a man is not woman. So its pretty unclear what people are saying yes to. Its people are saying yes to. Its unclear what they mean when they give that answer. Yes yeah, i get that. And i think i was alluding to that a bit earlier on by saying, look, we dont know whether or not those people whove ticked box to dont know whether or not those peoyeah,1ove ticked box to dont know whether or not those peoyeah, of ve ticked box to dont know whether or not those peoyeah, of course,d box to dont know whether or not those peoyeah, of course, a box to dont know whether or not those peoyeah, of course, a trans to go, yeah, of course, a trans woman is a woman. If i also then said to all right, would said to them, all right, would you with being you be happy with them to being your room . You be happy with them to being your you room . You be happy with them to being your you be room . You be happy with them to being your you be for room . You be happy with them to being your you be for them . You be happy with them to being your you be for them to would you be happy for them to be womens prison . So we be in a womens prison . So we havent got the kind of depth to it just it there. But i just think psychologically number psychologically that number of people all would have been a lot lower years would have lower ten years ago. Would have been lower 15 years ago, been a lot lower 15 years ago, a lot lower 20 years ago. You know , there a concern now that , is there a concern now that maybe some indoctrination has taken where people are taken place where people are kind it into their kind of getting it into their heads a younger age that , heads from a younger age that, you are women . You know, trans women are women . Whats going on . Whats creating this think . This shift . Do you think . I think theres well, yes, i think theres a lot of im not sure about the term indoctrination, but the way the discourse is presented. So the discourse is presented. So even the words that people use, like, you know, a trans woman is a woman by even using that descriptor, trans woman, youre youve sort of created a tautology there. Youre saying, well, a woman is a woman. Well, a woman is a woman. I think language but so i think language really matters and we should probably back describing probably go back to describing trans identified males as trans identified males. So i think you know, if you ask the question is a trans identifying male a woman, i think youd get a very different answer. So i think youd get a very different answer. So i think think youd get a very different answer. So i think clarity think youd get a very different answer. So i think clarity and language matters. It changes how we think about people and about political discourse. Political discourse. So i think it would be important to go back to a much more clear language to describe men as men and women as women. Men as men and women as women. So i think that language shift has been very damaging and that we should stop doing it. Yeah. And create new categories as opposed to trying to fit people into the existing categories then i suppose would be a would be the option. We would of course, in a practical sense then probably need to build more general infrastructure. Whether that was different changing rooms, bathrooms, prisons, but maybe thatis bathrooms, prisons, but maybe that is just something that we have to do. If people want this in the modern world, then we have adapt do we think have to adapt to it. Do we think thats right . I think well, i think the first thing we have to be clear aboutis first thing we have to be clear about is that women want and deserve single sex spaces, single sex services, single sex sports. To me, thats the most important issue. And so lets be very clear about that. And then if you have some man saying, well, we dont identify as men , well, we dont identify as men, you then deal with that separately. And i think youve separately. And i think youve then got to be quite precise, like, for example, sport. Sport like, for example, sport. Sport is about physical bodies , so is about physical bodies, so identity doesnt matter here. So for me, i wouldnt be creating new categories in sport , but new categories in sport, but certainly, lets say in toilets or changing spaces. Absolutely. Or changing spaces. Absolutely. Caroline this is the issue. This is the issue though, isnt it . Lets play the tape fonnard here. 20 years time , 100 of here. 20 years time, 100 of people , 75 of people, 80 of people, 75 of people, 80 of people, 75 of people, 80 of people, whatever it is, think a trans woman is a woman. This is this is this is the way its heading. You know, what do we do about that . If you think anything should be done at all, which obviously do well. Which you obviously do well. So i think we need to move back to much clearer language. And thats why lots of us have started now and all sorts of have sprung up. Sex of groups have sprung up. Sex matters, women, matters, fair play for women, all different political all the different Political Parties have groups focussed on this. So theres lib dem woman, laboun this. So theres lib dem woman, labour, women, conservative women all fighting on this issue. And we remain very clear that women want single sex spaces. So i think we need to separate out so people are saying, you know, i think quite flippantly , you know, trans flippantly, you know, trans women are women. We need to move women are women. We need to move the public debate on to say what what does that imply . And i think if you ask the next question, even today, most people will say, no, no, no, of course we didnt mean that men should be playing in womens sports teams. We didnt mean that men should be in womens toilets. So maybe im not as worried about you as what people think about the policy issues. But we need to clean up our language and then we need to keep debating what gets me , keep debating what gets me, though, you know. You know what gets me, though, is that though, caroline, is that politicians , businesses, politicians, businesses, organisations , nations, anyone organisations, nations, anyone in public life are loaded, disingenuous, snivelling , little disingenuous, snivelling, little virtue signallers as well are desperate. Desper fit to queue up behind the lgbt queue to a whatever the heck it is right now. Theyre not that keen to queue up behind lgb are they . Does that is that something it stands out for you, do you think . Absolutely. And we work closely with lgb alliance who are very clear that you know the, the t and the lgb are very different and one of their big concerns is its very often quite vulnerable young gay people, young, same sex attracted people who are most likely to sort of buy into this idea or maybe that was me who was born in the wrong body. So they would see it as a very harmful narrative and one that we must all continue to fight. As for the court and the Public Sector , youll find that most of sector, youll find that most of the employees, i think, dont go along with it. But there is a climate of fear and we absolutely have to challenge that strong stuff. Look, thank you very much, caroline. Always a pleasure. Caroline. Always a pleasure. Caroline. First, whos the founder of conservatives for women just reacting to that news. People think news. Yep 30 of people think that trans women are women. You can definitely take that two ways, cant you . You can absolutely take that two ways you still, 70 you can go. Well, still, 70 of people there, thats an people out there, thats an ovennhelming are ovennhelming majority. Why are politicians ovennhelming majority. Why are politiyou s ovennhelming majority. Why are politiyou could at it and law . You could look at it and 9 law . You could look at it and go, a huge number of go, 30 is a huge number of people really who willing to people really who are willing to potentially suspend biological and scientific fact. And medical and scientific fact. But loads more still to come between now and former between now and six. A former royal respondent have his royal respondent will have his say after steve coogan said that people who like the royals are flag waving idiots. But right now its your headlines with polly. Patrick polly. Patrick thank you. The top stories this hour. Its being reported that a prominent concern lviv mp has been arrested over an allegation of rape. 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Well, steve coogan made his name as Alan Partridge, the fictional tv presenter whos prone to say some very stupid things. I couldnt relate to that, could i . But even alan would do well to come out with something as crass as coogans latest comment about the royal family. Coogans claim that most people are into the royals people who are into the royals are flag waving people who are kind of idiots. So basically flag waving idiots. Kind of idiots. So basically flag waving idiots. He did go on to say that the queen was all right. Yeah thats nice of him, isnt it . You know, britains longest serving monarch, arguably the greatest human being this country has ever seen. Steve coogan thinks that shes all right. He says that he likes. Well, hes an ambivalence, actually, about king charles, because , as he king charles, because, as he quite likes some of the products that the duchy sells in waitrose , im delighted to say that. Im joined now by royal commentator michael cole. Michael, thank you michael cole. Michael, thank you very much. I mean, steve coogan probably thinks that that you, me , most of our viewers and me, most of our viewers and listeners are flag waving idiots i now, first of all, patrick, i must congratulate you and the station on your excellent viewing and listening figures. Im quite sure its not all down to you, but the phrase definitely not to be spread around in spite of. I i observed while idly cheering enthusiastic crowds from saskatchewan in north canada down to christchurch , in new zealand, christchurch, in new zealand, throughout the whole of the caribbean. Cheering ing the queen. And what i felt they were doing actually was celebrating the fact that theyre lucky enough to live in a Constitutional Monarchy. Each of them a liberal democracy , be them a liberal democracy, be ruled under the rule of law where where they can say anything and think anything and come out on the streets and welcome a monarch as she was then and for 70 years, those who was there by their invitation because any country in the commonwealth can decide to become a republic or to have a different form of government, but they dont because they see the value in having a Constitutional Monarchy, which ive always felt is our best defence against extremism and dictatorship, because it does give us the freedom to say what we like. Now, mr coogan, as as to my knowledge, is a very talented actor and hes a gifted comedian. But im not sure that i am quite ready to take his views on anything at all apart from that. Ill tell you what, michael , ill tell you what, michael, lets just remind ourselves, shall we, of a little bit of the combination spectacle that we were a part of. You were very much a part of archie. So these were people on the day of the coronation. I think there with the hats or with the flags , flag the hats or with the flags, flag waving idiots. Coogan thinks they at them. You know they are. Look at them. You know , its a disgrace. Look, i think its a disgrace. Look, all people, happy, all those happy people, happy, joyous , patriotic people who joyous, patriotic people who love the royal family out there having a great time loving this country, looking at this spectacle. Theyre going to tell their kids about it. Theyre going to their grandkids going to tell their grandkids about it. Will remember about it. They will remember that they die. That until the day they die. Michael, anyone michael, why would anyone want to pull an illicit Something Else there, pour cold water over these people , you know, just these people, you know, just enjoying themselves. Whats enjoying themselves. Whats theyre not flag waving idiots. Theyre not flag waving idiots. Yeah , well, youll have to yeah, well, youll have to pose that question to mr coogan if hes. If hes a if hes not too important to come down to earth and talk to mere mortals like you and me. But those people we saw there and they were seeing them, you know what theyre doing. They wouldnt express it, but they are enjoying their freedom , they are enjoying their freedom, they are enjoying their freedom, the freedom that comes from living in a Constitutional Monarchy which encourages eccentricity and encourages people to do what they like. And you know what most people do in this life . They they measure in their own little ways, their own lives by the lives of the royals. You by the lives of the royals. You know, our daughter was born at the same time as the this royal princess or whatever. And i, i know that i know that my mother did. She was born just in the reign of edward the seventh. And she lived through george the fifth. George the sixth and, and Queen Elizabeth ii. And she measured her life which was one of achievement and pleasure by what the royal family did. And she enjoyed it. I remember after the coronation of 1953, she took my sister and i to this very spot were seeing in the mall to watch the trooping of the colour. We didnt see the actual coronation and she bought us a periscope each for i think it was half a crown or Something Like that, 12. 5 pence. And to see me, in fact, what we did see was probably the backside of the queens horse and not much else. But we were there. It was an occasion and its important to the life of this country. You know, man does not live by bread alone or even by Dutch Original biscuits at waitrose there is a spiritual element of this and this is how people can expect, can express and enjoy and celebrate their own spirituality and the joy of living in this country. Of course, there are many other countries, 202 of them think if they dont like it, they can go somewhere else. Well, exactly. I am firmly in that camp, michael, by the way, if you dont like it here, nobody is keeping you here. Nobody. Nobody. I mean , its. Nobody. Nobody. I mean, its. Yeah, well, the, the arrogance, though, of, look, weve all got an ego. We both work in telly and media. Thats no surprise to anybody. But to think that i could go what the queen yeah. Shes all right. Yeah but who the heck does he think he is . Condescending or condescending . I once, by quite chance , had the experience of chance, had the experience of sitting on the next door table to him, and one of his other self regarding friends in a restaurant in the west end. I wont name it. And i thought, by the way, he behaved that if you wanted to, uh, perhaps do a study of arrogance and self importance, maybe youd start by having a good look at steve coogan. But im sure hes steve coogan. But im sure hes a really wonderful fellow , and a really wonderful fellow, and hes been condescending enough to say he thought the queen was quite good in some ways. Um, i mean, if we if he was to stand for president , do you think wed get any votes . Would he get any get any votes . Would he get any votes . Votes . The thing is, its a its a real shame. Its the thing is, its a its a real shame. Its a real shame because i think i mean, im a big fan of Alan Partridge, big fan of quite a lot of what steve coogan is doing. It clearly has clearly has or maybe had at one point know a great comedic mind and a lot of attributes and skills and all of that stuff. And ive got a huge amount of joy out of that. I think you hear them pipe up about things and or theyre and whether or not theyre a jeremy supporter or Jeremy Corbyn supporter or whether Jeremy Corbyn supporter or whe this about about people like this about about people that i really like. You know, i like i like the people who are lining up on mall and lining up on the mall and camping for days. And i was camping out for days. And i was there to my there with them trying to my people, someones got there with them trying to my pnflage, someones got there with them trying to my pnflag waving someones got there with them trying to my pnflag waving idiot. ;omeones got there with them trying to my pnflag waving idiot. Absolutelyjot a flag waving idiot. Absolutely well, some people, some people do believe that theyre much above the ordinary people. The ordinary people. You know, the was very good at the queen was very good at putting ordinary people at their ease. You know, she was in that sense, she was almost classless because she was above class and she was great at doing that with her. Sort of have you come far and how interesting and so on. But she did that and she loved the people. She always rather the people. She always rather enjoyed it. And when they started doing the royal walkabouts , which was in her walkabouts, which was in her silver of 1977, and she Silver Jubilee of 1977, and she really got into it and wanted to do more and really, what is it . I mean, its an expression of happiness that you actually live in this country. Happiness that you actually live in this country. You have the in this country. You have the privileges of being here. You can express yourself. You can say almost anything within the law. You can get away with law. You can get away with anything. And thats why we listen to steve coogan. Im quite sure he is very successful. Im up in east anglia, of course, in 1 or 2 people in nonnich might take exception, but by and large, people enjoy that sort of thing. Were in this country able to laugh at at each other. Were laugh at at each other. Were laugh at at each other. Were laugh at ourselves. We have a laugh at ourselves. We have a great sense of fun. And part of great sense of fun. And part of thatis great sense of fun. And part of that is the monarchy people enjoy the spectacle. They enjoy the whole panoply of it all. They like the ceremonial and they like the fact that were somewhat something different. There are 44 monarchies in the world and there are 149 republics. The monarchy is tend to be the happier lands. Republics. The monarchy is tend to be the happier lands. And to be the happier lands. And thats one thing to keep in mind i absolutely. Michael, thank you very much. Michael cole, royal commentator, friend of the show. Great to have you on. Thank you. Now, have you ever wanted to see a man body slammed by a whale . Ill just repeat that. How have you ever wanted to see a man body slammed by a whale of course you have. And the good news is , thats exactly the good news is, thats exactly what im about to bring to you if youre listening on radio. Well youre about to hear a man being body by whale. Being body son by a whale. 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So i talk about stories that arent dominating the news headlines, but caught and but have caught my eye. And today focusing on this woke today im focusing on this woke museum. Its ditched the word christmas its Christmas Christmas from its Christmas Market. Okay so the artist formerly known as the Christmas Market at bowes museum, which was founded by the ancestors of the late queen mother. No less, is no more woke officials at the museum in Barnard Castle in County Durham. Does that sound familiar to you . Yeah. Its where you go to check your eyesight, isnt it . Where you go to check your eyesight, isnt it . Where where you go to check your eyesight, isnt it . Where you go to check your eyesight . Just ask dominic cummings. To check your eyesight . Just ask dominic cummings. Anyway, dominic cummings. Anyway, theyve replaced it with a winter market. I must say that the bowes museum has denied that theyve cancelled christmas. Yes theyve cancelled christmas. Yes they havent technically cancelled the actual day of christmas, have they . But they told there were lots of told us that there were lots of christmas activities at the museum and people can buy christmas cards and decorations as you can. Lets get as well. So you can. Lets get this right. So youre going to stack museum for full of stack a museum for full of christmas themed things and you can buy christmas cards. You can can buy christmas cards. You can do christmas activities. I wonder if therell be a santa. There may well be a santas grotto. I dont know. Ive never been castle. Well been to Barnard Castle. Well have dominic, wont we . Have to ask dominic, wont we . But youre not going to call it a Christmas Market or christmas event. Going called event. Its going to be called winter. Why why are we doing event. Its going to be called winteseriously1y are we doing event. Its going to be called winteseriously imre we doing event. Its going to be called winteseriously im sick doing event. Its going to be called winteseriously im sick ofoing event. Its going to be called winteseriously im sick of it. G this . Seriously im sick of it. Every single year, something pps every single year, something pops they its a winter pops up, they go, its a winter winterval winter festival winterval as the winter festival is the festive season, its christmas , all right. We dont christmas, all right. We dont seem shy about seem to be this shy about celebrating other things, do we . You we take lot of pride you know, we take a lot of pride in you know, gay in literally, you know, gay pride it is. Pride month or whatever it is. You take a lot of pride you know, we take a lot of pride in diverse, defying streets for ramadan or whatever it is. Happy ramadan. You see that all the time. You walk into i walked into you see into a john lewis. You see a sign, happy ramadan, everybody. Yes, when sign, happy ramadan, everybody. Yesthristmas, when sign, happy ramadan, everybody. Yesthristmas, why when sign, happy ramadan, everybody. Yesthristmas, why cant when sign, happy ramadan, everybody. Yesthristmas, why cant youihen its christmas, why cant you Just Christmas . Why just be happy christmas . Why cant do that . Im cant we all just do that . Im not about christmas. Not shouting about christmas. I am, i telly . Yeah am, arent i on the telly . Yeah all its just me. I all right. Maybe its just me. I dont know. Anyway, to dont know. Anyway, im going to delve the inbox now. Gb delve into the inbox now. Gb views. Gbnews. Com. Of views. Gbnews. Com. Loads of people getting in touch about the steve coogan story that we had so steve coogan, in had before. So steve coogan, in case missed it, has case youve missed it, has basically said that if you happen enjoy the royal family happen to enjoy the royal family and go and celebrate them, and go out and celebrate them, that you a flag waving that you are a flag waving idiot, right . So im sorry to have it to you, but have to break it to you, but steve coogan quite possibly thinks that you are a flag waving everyone knows waving idiot. Everyone knows that coogan is a leftie bleep. I that coogan is a leftie bleep. I dont know why he gets mentioned now. Best thing would be to not report on him and then eventually he would disappear and forgotten , says david. And be forgotten, says david. Yeah, thats fine, david. But i had half an hour to fill today on telly, so, you know, you could say that about a lot of things, couldnt you . But thank you very much the email. You very much for the email. Most patriotism. Most would call it patriotism. Theres no on this as theres no name on this one as opposed waving idiocy. Opposed to flag waving idiocy. Im inclined to agree with you. Yes, of course, its patriotism. Its a shared sense of community. Its a nice thing, isnt is just a simple isnt it . It is just a simple pleasure life, it i pleasure in life, is it not . I think youve to be think youve got to be incredibly miserable, havent you . Incredibly miserable you . An incredibly miserable individual come out and see individual to come out and see the negative in everything and to see the problems with it . Patrick we cannot be by definition, a liberal democracy when we have an unelected head of state says chris here. And id like to live elsewhere. Id like to live elsewhere. Based upon your observation is that i based upon your observation is thati can based upon your observation is that i can live. I look fonnard to you organising a residency visa and work permit for myself and my family in america. Dont be so daft. That and my family in america. Dont be so daft. That is and my family in america. Dont be so daft. That is because be so daft. That is because i said, along with michael cole, the royal correspondent. Hey, look, if someone like steve coogan doesnt like it here, then you know what . We can get them a ticket and go them a plane ticket and go elsewhere. But youre right, chris. Not actually going to chris. Im not actually going to buy the usa. Im buy you a ticket to the usa. Im convinced you are going to convinced that you are going to stay love it. The stay here and love it. The british should know, British Public should know, should coogan should let steve coogan know what think him by what they think of him by boycotting and his tv boycotting his shows and his tv shows, another stephen. Shows, says another stephen. Well, we go. So well, there we go. Okay. So strong stuff. Not a lot of love for inbox, it must for coogan in the inbox, it must be sure he will be said, but im sure he will say that his words were taken out of context and that he doesnt we doesnt actually think that we are waving are all flag waving little idiots. He wont that, idiots. Maybe he wont say that, but always to get out but its always nice to get out into it . Got into nature, isnt it . Ive got time one more thing time to bring you one more thing here. Always nice to get here. Its always nice to get out nature, how close out into nature, but how close is too close to nature . Maybe ask jason breen, who was doing something called wing foiling. Something called wing foiling. Yeah, me neither. Off the coast of sydney when he was body slammed by a whale. I think we can. We can see a bit of this now. Jason got very lucky. He now. Jason got very lucky. He only got away from the whale because the leash broke. Have we got a video of this now . I think we might. Got a video of this now . I think we might. Flipping heck. Got a video of this now . I think we might. Flipping heck. Oh, my we might. Flipping heck. Oh, my gosh. Right. Okay, lets play it again. Ill talk everyone through it. So this guy is doing something that looks like the first seen a first time ive seen it looks a lot like windsurfing. All right, lets again if we can. Lets play it again if we can. So hes going along on merry so hes going along on his merry way there off the way somewhere out there off the coast you coast of sydney. And then you can see wallop. Absolutely. Can see that wallop. Absolutely. Massive whale. That is massive whale. That is unbelievable. Yeah, that is definitely too close to nature, i must say. All right. Well, i must say. All right. Well, look, that basically it for look, that is basically it for today. I want to say thank you very everybody who has, today. I want to say thank you ve course, everybody who has, today. 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And the reason why im so grateful today is because the news landed. Indeed the news has landed. Indeed that the listening figures for this show are and you are are 85, up 85 up. And you are now, believe it or not, currently listening along with loads of other people to the uks most popular drive time news commercial show. So thank you very much. A massive achievement. Everybody here who works behind scenes. This works behind the scenes. This show only been going show itself has only been going for around a year. So were taking on the big boys. Weve really kind in and swept really kind of come in and swept up and that is massive and that is down to all you telling is down to all of you telling all your friends and all of your friends and spreading word you spreading the word because you are so are our best advertising. So please go out there and continue to tell people. And thank you to tell people. And thank you very much. Michelle dewberry, to tell people. And thank you very nalso michelle dewberry, to tell people. And thank you very nalso doneelle dewberry, to tell people. And thank you very nalso done ratherewberry, to tell people. And thank you very nalso done ratherewberin whos also done rather well in the ratings , i must is up the ratings, i must say, is up next james and kirstie in a bit. Hello again. Welcome to your hello again. Welcome to your latest gb news weather update from the met office. Well see further rain and showers through the rest of the day, particularly across North Eastern areas. Thats because eastern areas. Thats because low pressure is very much in charge. Its staying to the west of the uk, but thats to going push a sequence of fronts across us over the next few days and into next week as well. Now that into next week as well. Now that rain will persist across North Eastern areas, theres still a warning in force all the way through until saturday here across Southern Coasts as well. Well continue to see some of those showers through this evening. Inland itll evening. However, inland itll turn and that will allow turn drier and that will allow some mist and fog to develop for central areas such as the midlands , east anglia to. So midlands, east anglia to. So a bit of a murky start on friday morning here, but it will be dry for these central areas elsewhere though, across the south and the northeast staying rather wet through tomorrow. Some quite blustery and heavy showers across the south coast and across the northeast, particularly eastern scotland, where that warnings in force. Rainfall totals will continue to build up. Now temperatures are a little bit below average for the time of year with the best of any sunshine, it wont feel too bad central areas on bad in central areas on saturday. Sunshine will be saturday. Again sunshine will be fairly limited for most areas with a lot of cloud and showers around in the southeast, well see some quite persistent rain as in northern as well as in northern ireland, wales eastern scotland wales and eastern scotland through sunday. Further wet weather is to come and there will be little change the will be little change into the start next week with more start of next week with more wind and rain do you think to i is there a force for good or not . And the Government Faces yet another headache in the form of a legal challenge. This time against them over their use of an airbase to house migrants in essex. Apparently the decision segregates the migrants from the locals and thus leads to a loss of the migrants dignity. My goodness me. And jobless parents will need to spend 30 hours a week soon looking for work. If they want to keep their benefits harsh or fair. You tell me. They want to keep their benefits harsh or fair. You tell me. Yes, harsh or fair. You tell me. Yes, weve got it all coming up tonight, were going to have some lively debate on some of those topics right through to 7 00. But before we get stuck in, lets cross to Polly Middlehurst tonights latest middlehurst for tonights latest headunes. Headlines. Well, michelle, thanks very much indeed. And good evening to much indeed. And good evening to you as well. The uks border force is in egypt with the Prime Minister confirming today officers are there ready to help british nationals escape gaza. When the border reopens. Cabinet ministers held an emergency