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Believe that technologies like ai will bring a transformation as far reaching as the Industrial Revolution, the coming of electricity or the birth of the internet. Now, as birth of the internet. Now, as with every one of those waves of technology, i will bring new knowledge, new opportunities for economic growth, new advances in human capability , and the chance human capability, and the chance to solve problems that we once thought were beyond us. But like those waves, it also brings new dangers and new fears. So the responsible thing for me to do, the right speech, for me to make is to address those fears head on, giving you the peace of mind that we will keep you safe while making sure that you and your children have all the opportunity for a better future. That i can bring. Now, doing the that i can bring. Now, doing the right thing , not the easy thing, right thing, not the easy thing, means being honest with people about the risks from these technologies. So i wont hide technologies. So i wont hide them from you. Thats why today , them from you. Thats why today, for the first time, weve taken the highly unusual step of publishing our analysis on the risks of ai , including an risks of ai, including an assessment by the uk intelligence communitys. These intelligence communitys. These reports provide a stark warning. Reports provide a stark warning. Get this wrong and i could make it easier to build chemical or biological weapons as terrorist groups could use ai biological weapons as terrorist groups could use al to spread fear and destruction on an even greater scale. Criminals could greater scale. Criminals could exploit. The ai for cyber exploit. The ai for cyber attacks, disinformation, charleton fraud, or even child sexual abuse. And in the most unlikely but extreme cases , unlikely but extreme cases, there is even the risk that humanity could lose control of ai completely through the kind of ai sometimes referred to as superintelligence. Indeed, to superintelligence. Indeed, to quote the statement made earlier this year by hundreds of the worlds leading ai experts , worlds leading ai experts, mitigating the risk of extinction from al should be a global priority alongside other societal scale risks such as pandemics and nuclear war. Now, i want to be completely clear. I want to be completely clear. This is not a risk that people need to be losing sleep over right now. And i dont want to be alarmist. And there is real debate about this. Some experts think it will never happen at all. But however uncertain an and unlikely these risks are , if and unlikely these risks are, if they did manifest themselves as they did manifest themselves as the consequences would be incredibly serious. And when so incredibly serious. And when so many of the Biggest Developers of this technology themselves warn of these risks, leads us have a responsibility to take them seriously and to act. And them seriously and to act. And thats what im doing today in three specific ways. First, keep three specific ways. First, keep you safe right now, the only people testing the safety of ai are the very organised nations developing it. Even they dont developing it. Even they dont always fully understand what their models could become capable of and there are incentives in part to compete to build the best models quickest. So we shouldnt rely on them. Mark their own homework, as many of those working on this would themselves agree, not least because only governments can properly assess the risk to National Security and only nafion National Security and only nation states have the power and legitimacy to keep their people safe. The uks answer is not to safe. The uks answer is not to rush to regulate. This is a rush to regulate. This is a point of principle. Rush to regulate. This is a point of principle. We believe point of principle. We believe in innovation. Its a hallmark of the british economy. So we will always have a presumption to encourage it, not to stifle it. And in any case, how can we write laws that make sense for something that we dont yet fully understand . So instead were building world leading capability to understand and evaluate the safety of ai models within government. Evaluate the safety of ai models within government. But evaluate the safety of ai models within government. But to evaluate the safety of ai models within government. But to do that, weve already invested £100 million in a new task force , more funding for al safety than any other country in the world. And weve recruited some of the most respected and knowledgeable figures in the world of ai. So im completely confident in telling you that the uk is doing far more than any other country to keep you safe. And because of this, safe. And because of this, because of the unique steps weve already taken , were able weve already taken, were able to go even further today i can announce that we will establish the worlds first Ai Safety Institute right here in the uk. Institute right here in the uk. It will advance the worlds knowledge of ai safety and it will carefully exam an evaluate and test new types of ai so that we understand what each new model is capable of exploring all the risks from social harms like bias and misinformation through to the most extreme risks of all the british people should have peace of mind that were developing the most advanced protections for al of any country in the world doing whats right and whats necessary to keep you safe. But necessary to keep you safe. But ai doesnt respect borders , so ai doesnt respect borders, so we cannot do this alone. The second part of our plan is to host the worlds First Ever Global ai safety summit next week at Bletchley Park. The iconic home of computer science. Were bringing together the worlds leading representatives from Civil Society to the companys pioneering ai and the countrys most advanced in using it. And yes, weve invited china. Now, i know there are some who will say that they should have been excluded and but there can be no serious strategy for al without at least trying to engage all of the worlds leading ai powers that might not have been the easy thing to do, but it was the right thing to do. So what do we hope to achieve at next weeks summit . Right now, we dont have a shared understanding of the risks that we face and without that, we cant hope to Work Together to actually address them. Thats why well push hard them. Thats why well push hard to agree. The first ever International Statement about the nature of these risks. Yet the nature of these risks. Yet ai is developing at a breathtaking speed. Every new breathtaking speed. Every new wave will become more advanced, better trained , with better better trained, with better chips and more computing power. So we need to make sure that as the risks evolve, so does our shared understanding. I believe shared understanding. I believe we should take inspiration from the Intergovernmental Panel on climate change, which was set up to reach an International Scientific consensus. So next week i will propose that we establish a truly Global Expert panel nominated by the countries and organisations attending to pubush and organisations attending to publish a state of ai science report. Now of course our report. Now of course our efforts also depend on collaboration with the ai companies themselves uniquely in the world. Those companies have already trusted the uk with Privileged Access to their models. Thats why the uk is so models. Thats why the uk is so well placed to create the worlds first Ai Safety Institute. And at next weeks summit , ai institute. And at next weeks summit, ai will Work Together with the companies and countries to deepen our partnership. To deepen our partnership. Thats my vision and our ultimate goal should be towards a more international approach to safety, where we collaborate with partners to ensure ai systems are safe before they are released. And so to support released. And so to support this, we will make the work of our Ai Safety Institute available to the world. Thats the right thing to do morally. In keeping with the uks historic role on the international stage. But its also the right thing economically for families and businesses up and down the country , because the future of country, because the future of ai is safe. Ai and by making the uk a Global Leader in safe ai, we will attract even more of the jobs and new investment that will come from this new wave of technology. And just think for technology. And just think for a moment at what that will mean for our country. Moment at what that will mean for our country. The growth it for our country. The growth it will catalyse the jobs it will create, the change it can deliver for the better for. And thats the third part of our plan , to make sure that everyone plan, to make sure that everyone in our country can benefit from the opportunity of ai. And weve already got strong foundations. Already got strong foundations. Third in the world for tech behind only the us and china , behind only the us and china, the best place in europe to raise capital. All of the leading ai Companies Choosing the uk as their european headquarters. The most pro investment tax regime, the most pro entrepreneur visa regime to attract the worlds top talent and the education reforms to give our own young people the skills to succeed and were going to make it even easier for ambitious people with big ideas to start, grow and compete in the world of ai and thats not just about having the technical skills, but the raw computing power. Thats why were investing almost £1 billion in a super computer thousands of times faster than the one you have at home. And its why were investing £2. 5 billion in Quantum Computers , which can be Quantum Computers, which can be exponentially quicker than those computers. Still so to understand this, consider how googles sycamore quantum computer can solve a maths problem in 200 seconds. That would take the worlds fastest supercomputer for 10,000 years and as we invest more in our computing power, we will make it available for researchers and businesses as well as government so that when the best entrepreneurs in the world think about where they want to start and scale their ai businesses, they choose, the uk. And finally they choose, the uk. And finally , we must target our scientific effort towards what i think of as ai for good right across the western world. Were searching for answers to the question as to how we can improve and increase our productivity because thats the only long term way to grow our economy and raise peoples Living Standards and in a million different ways across every aspect of our lives. Ai can be that answer. Across every aspect of our lives. Ai can be that answer. In across every aspect of our lives. Ai can be that answer. In the. Ai can be that answer. In the pubuc. Ai can be that answer. In the Public Sector, were clamping down on benefit fraudsters , down on benefit fraudsters, saving billions and using ai as a co pilot to help clear backlogs and radically speed up papennork work. Just take, for example , the task of producing example, the task of producing bundles for benefits tribunals before a weeks work could produce around 11. Now now. Produce around 11. Now now. Well, that was rishi sunak giving a speech on al in london this morning. That is rishi sunak doing what rishi sunak really cares about being the technocrat and keeping us safe. I dont know whether you heard how many times you mentioned the word safe and safety estimate of a is with us in the studio listening to that. Esther its very comfortable, isnt he , very comfortable, isnt he, talking about those sorts of topics that sort of technocratic future . Thats how his wifes future . Thats how his wifes family have made their billions with the Tech Companies that they have in india. But i didnt hear an awful lot in there for the british people. I know he the british people. I know he talks about this as this is going to be investment, this is going to be investment, this is going to be jobs. From what i can didnt answer my can see. And he didnt answer my concerns that al is costing concerns is that al is costing us a lot of jobs at the moment. Artificial intelligence, rather than providing i couldnt than providing them. I couldnt see jobs are going to see where the jobs are going to come to that. Come from. Listening to that. First of all, okay. Well, first of all, i think its brilliant that were going at the forefront going to be at the forefront about talking about this. I think lots of people talk about al really what ai and we dont really know what were about. What does were talking about. What does it is this threat . It mean . Where is this threat . What so it is an what is it doing . So it is an Artificial Intelligence. Its the intelligence of machines and software, rather than human beings. It beings. But were doing it anyway, arent we, with, you know, searching internet know, searching the internet with , with chatty pete . With siri, with chatty pete . Were doing it anyway. Were were doing it anyway. Were using it anyway. But its how is this going to impact and influence our lives . So i guess hes getting on the front foot here. I see it actually as lots of positive changes. You talk about jobs specifically there. I will say weve got a million Job Vacancies in the uk at the moment and were bringing people in from abroad to do those jobs. Actually, if robots can do it, if it can be done by a ai, there could be a positive there. So i dont see that as the negative of. So id sooner look at some of. So id sooner look at some of the positives. But what i will question because we were watching this live together was some of the things like he said and i like this the uk will have the worlds first safe Institute Like that leading the way. How even like that leading the way. How ever. What im wondering is how are we leading the way and will we do it alone . This isnt something you can regulate because we dont know where were going yet. So how are we going to stop it or impede it . Will we be at the forefront or will we be at the back if we bnngin will we be at the back if we bring in too much regulations and limitations . What and limitations . So thats what im looking at. Interesting he called it a transformation as as the industrial as big as the Industrial Revolution the very start or revolution at the very start or the birth electricity. Big the birth of electricity. Big words, of money going into words, a lot of money going into this. Billion. Hes this. £2. 5 billion. Hes pledging spend on pledging to spend on on supercomputers, on supercomputers, £100 million on the institute. But one the safe. The institute. But one thing leapt thing that really leapt out there, as well as a doom mongering stuff about it, would make to easy chemical make it to easy make chemical weapons attacks. Hes weapons or cyber attacks. Hes inviting to this inviting china to this conference. Global conference. The global conference. The global conference park, conference at Bletchley Park, china, a long time china, who for . For a long time the government the the British Government the conservative government have said spying us through said are spying on us through tiktok cameras in tiktok through the cameras in our 5g masts. Is our cars, through 5g masts. Is it right thing , seriously to it the right thing, seriously to invite china . Who is , you know, invite china . Who is, you know, overtly the most spying nation on the planet . Well, maybe he knows were behind the curve on some of these things, so maybe its a smart move , like a jujitsu move smart move, like a jujitsu move to get the person and the country that is actually excelling and better. And anybody around the table to see if we can pick their brains. I wouldnt see that as a negative step. I think youre also step. And i think youre also seeing the world divide up. Arent you seeing chinas augned arent you seeing chinas aligned with sort of russia, youve iran come in there. Youve seen iran come in there. Youve seen iran come in there. Youve seen iran come in there. Youve seen this of global youve seen this sort of global shifting power and maybe shifting of power and maybe there a way dismantling there is a way of dismantling that. But i want to say is, you know, i became a discipline in universities back in the 1950s. Alan turing, hence the going to Bletchley Park said, can computers think back in 1956 . This isnt new, but what has happened . Its moved on at a speed as computers have got more powerful and as the world has collected more data. It is about exploring data, going into data. Exploring data, going into data. And so things that it can do, which you talked about, is solve problems. So much quicker. But where got to start. Where youve got to start. Question there is the ethics and false information getting into that as sort of a bias in the algorithms and that knowledge. And thats what weve got to get right . So i think its the ethics i find this i find that that for me is one of the most terrifying speeches that ive ever heard. Which president gone . Well, lots of things terrify about lots of things terrify me about it. Government starts to it. When a government starts to talk about doing things for our safety weve seen what the safety and weve seen what the consequences that could be in consequences of that could be in the years. And that the last three years. And that really worries me because as somebody fundamentally somebody that fundamentally believes in our civil liberties, the be the government should not be there necessarily to keep me safe. Thats, you know, safe. I know thats, you know, particularly when it comes particularly not when it comes to thing. And the to this sort of thing. And the idea that he said looking idea that he said were looking for an International Scientific consensus, like on climate change, is no such thing change, there is no such thing as International Scientific consensus anything. Consensus on anything. There was a gasp i think there was a gasp there when it was the Intergovernmental Panel on climate be climate change. This would be something similar. I think something similar. And i think youre right. We dont youre quite right. We dont want used to control want fear used to control people. Thats right. Want fear used to control people. Thats right. And thats what we dont want to see. And thats looking more at thats why im looking more at the positive something that the positive and something that has for a long has been around for a long penod has been around for a long period of time that weve got used to thats assimilated with our so how do use our lives. So how do we use it . So think it wont so i actually think it wont necessarily be governments and states that will be the supreme beings in this. I think it will beings in this. I think it will be trusted brands so youll switch on to gb news because you say i like and trust that brand. You might switch on to whoever , you might switch on to whoever, bbc channel whatever it is bbc channel or whatever it is you choose your trusted you will choose your trusted brand. And sooner it brand. And i would sooner it develop way from the develop that way from the individual, from the companies, right. Way through rather right. The way through rather than a government at will telling us. But there were other things they will keep us safe dunng things they will keep us safe during pandemics. Weve that before. It weve heard that before. It didnt keep safe. It just didnt keep us safe. It just kept monitored. And also kept us monitored. And also i, for looking into benefit for good, looking into benefit frauds. But before we move on, can i just ask you, do you think its appropriate that rishi sunak was delivering a keynote speech on what obviously speech on what is obviously a hobby his on al at a hobby horse of his on al at a time . Right now theres a theres a cobra meeting that Oliver Dowden is chairing instead. Are still instead. And there are still six british missing in british hostages missing in gaza. Isnt rishi at the gaza. Why isnt rishi at the rishi at the cobra meeting instead of talking about al . Okay so ive been at lots of cobra meetings and the Prime Minister does not need to be there. The difficult thing in government youve planned something. Everybody something. Youve got everybody waiting your bated breath. Waiting on your bated breath. And this also important waiting on your bated breath. And his also important waiting on your bated breath. And ti you also important waiting on your bated breath. And ti you will important waiting on your bated breath. And ti you will iraroundt topic i you will have around that cobra table, probably defence, the foreign office. Youll have sort of Intelligence Services there. Youll have the deputy Prime Minister there because thats how cobra works. You dont have to have the Prime Minister there. You cant stop in life doing what youre doing. And there are many other things that hugely it that are hugely important. It was him that. Was right for him to do that. But meeting, as you but that cobra meeting, as you rightly is hugely important rightly say, is hugely important to this is the Biggest Issue at the moment. Right. Thanks, esther. All right. Thanks, esther. Brilliant esther, brilliant as always. Esther, were on were back on your telly on saturday gb news with saturday morning on gb news with phil wright. Let us know what you think. Vaiews gbnews. Com. So crisis talks are deepening for labour as starmer for the labour party as starmer met mps over the partys met muslin mps over the partys stance on the israel gaza war yesterday. Yeah, this comes as hundreds of labour muslim councillors in fact its over 250 now have written to starmer , urging the written to starmer, urging the Party Leadership call for an Party Leadership to call for an immediate ceasefire in the gaza region. So joining us now is labour mp Khalid Mahmood, who attended the meeting. Hi, khalid, good to see you again. How the see you again. How did the meeting how did how did the meeting how did how did the meeting problem meeting go . This is a problem for. No, i think its for starmer. No, i think its a very constructive meeting. I think we had issues that we wanted to raise, though. It was the muslim group that wanted to raise the meeting and we got the meeting and so we wanted to move fonnard with it. Okay, kelly, i looked through the list of 250 muslim councillors and some some interesting constituents leaped to mind. For example , there are to mind. For example, there are a number of councillors from rochdale and there are three from rotherham. There are six from rotherham. There are six from brent, which of course has the uks highest density of jewish people. Six from kirklees, which of course is where the Batley Grammar School teacher was forced into hiding and is still in hiding. I put it to you. Why should the british pubuc to you. Why should the British Public listen to the voice of 250 labour councillors who are more concerned with the gaza strip than they are about grooming gangs or the forced into hiding of british teachers by muslim extremists . By muslim extremists . Well, look, first of all, i dont support any Extremist Organisation and never have done and since 9 11 ive fought against them. And i think the against them. And i think the issue here is how we move fonnard. The meeting that we had with sir keir was basically looking at the concerns of our constituents and how people are moving fonnard. So thats our moving fonnard. So thats our real concern that we have at the moment. Moment. And if you were listening to the concerns of your constituents in places like rochdale or rotherham or kirklees or batley and spen, why was it that the Labour Muslim Network was completely and utterly silent . Not a dicky bird, not a peep about any of theissues bird, not a peep about any of the issues ive just mentioned yet. Youre very vocal about gaza. How about concentrating on domestic politics and your constituents . Constituents . Well, i tell you, agree with you. I dont have much time for muslim labour. Muslim network. I believe that they should concentrate on a lot of the issues that are bread and butter issues that are bread and butter issues that are bread and butter issues that our constituents are concerned about , the cost of concerned about, the cost of living, the issue amongst all of our communities. So those are the important things for us and i think thats what we want to do. How does how does keir starmer dampen this within the party . Kelly because it has clearly upset a lot of muslim mps and obviously there are jewish labour voters who want to hear keir starmer condemn the actions of hamas in the fiercest possible tones. Is it possible that he can he can keep both factions happy , if you like . Factions happy, if you like . Well, no. The issue is keeping things that are straightfonnard in accordance with the International Law. He doesnt go he hasnt got to keep anybody happy. What weve got to anybody happy. What weve got to do is to work clearly and directly on the issues that are important to us. We need to protect the interests of the people in gaza. We also need to look at the massacre by hamas thats gone on. And weve got to try and look at those two issues and work towards a settlement in the peace in gaza and israel. The peace in gaza and israel. And listen, everybody is just devastated. You would be you would not be human if you werent moved by the pictures on both sides of particularly of babies being harmed. And the young people in gaza that are currently in a dreadful condition. But my concern at the condition. But my concern at the moment, when youre saying its really important that we get this right, its really important to the constituents of those labour mps and people who live in the areas of those labour councillors that their needs are met. Also on a local level. And for me to be resigning your position on when you have responsibilities in your area, all the boring mundane stuff that affects british people, potholes in the roads , your bins being emptied, roads, your bins being emptied, your low traffic neighbourhoods. Im appalled that this number of labour mps are resigning over something happening thousands of miles away when , despite the miles away when, despite the fact that it is awful when they are elected to those positions locally to serve their local constituents. Constituents. Yeah, i think in terms of local councils, which is what youre saying, of local councils, which is what youre saying , of course we have youre saying, of course we have important issues. People are concerned about issues. But when you stand as a councillor, youre quite right. You stand for all of the issues that you represent and your job is to continue to represent those people. I think resigning is no way fonnard. If you join a political party, what you must do is stand hard when the issues get tough and work through those work through your party to deliver that. And thats what deliver that. And thats what politics is about. Its about engaging when the issues arent exactly what you think they should be. And working your way through that resigning is through that and resigning is not solution to anything. Not a solution to anything. Absolutely. Kelly as yeah, absolutely. Kelly as always, something to always, we find something to agree mahmood there. Agree on. Khalid mahmood there. Labour mp let me know what you think. Vaiews gbnews. Com. Interesting stuff. Okay now lets go straight to your weather. Hello. Very good morning to hello. Very good morning to you. Its Aidan Mcgivern here from the met office with the gb news forecast. Bit of a gloomy one out there this morning. Lots of low clouds, some mist and fog patches well, and further of low clouds, some mist and fog patcor; well, and further of low clouds, some mist and fog patc or showers, and further of low clouds, some mist and fog patc or showers to nd further of low clouds, some mist and fog patc or showers to come. Her of low clouds, some mist and fog patc or showers to come. For rain or showers to come. For many of us, its a windy one as well. North of well. For the far north of scotland, northern isles, seeing some Gale Force Winds through the early afternoon the morning and early afternoon combined rain. Combined with some heavy rain. Its to feel very its not going to feel very pleasant here. The rainfall increasingly across increasingly mounting up across eastern next eastern scotland over the next few days, as as last few days, not as much as last week, additional week, but any additional rainfall of course, could cause further also be further issues. Therell also be some rain at times some persistent rain at times for showers for Eastern England. Showers elsewhere interspersed by sunny spells , and it will feel a bit spells, and it will feel a bit milder compared with yesterday. Milder compared with yesterday. But a gusty wind will carry the showers through across southwestern areas. Hail and thunder so quite thunder around coasts. So quite a day of weather wherever a lively day of weather wherever you are into the evening. The showers continue and longer showers continue and the longer spells rain continue as well spells of rain continue as well across Central Eastern across central and eastern scotland eastern scotland, parts of Eastern England, lot of low cloud once england, a lot of low cloud once again, reforming some mist patches by dawn , but its patches by dawn, but its another mild start to the day tomorrow with temperatures in the double figures in places. Now friday is a day of two halves across the uk. Weve got a lot of stubborn cloud for scotland, for northern and Eastern England. Some persisting rain at times along with a gusty breeze elsewhere, brighter skies , some sunny spells, but frequent and heavy showers coming through across Northern Ireland, wales, the southern half of england. Temperatures reaching 15 celsius, a touch cooler compared with today where. 10 00 on thursday, the where. 10 00 on thursday, the 26th of october. This is britains newsroom on gb news. With me bev turner and Martin Daubney this morning. Some morning and labour some of the morning and labour on ropes. On the ropes. Starmer held a sir keir starmer held a meeting muslim mps last meeting with muslim mps last night he tried to stop people night as he tried to stop people leaving the party over its stance on israel. Stance on israel. Hamas is doomed. Thats the message from israeli Prime Minister benjamin netanyahu. As he says israel is preparing for a Ground Invasion on in gaza, but he will not say when. Well bnng but he will not say when. Well bring you any developments as they happen. They happen. And this comes as the government is holding an emergency cobra meeting discussing its strategy towards the israel hamas conflict. Rishi sunak though he isnt there. Sunak though he isnt there. A new plastic free poppy. The Royal British legion launches its annual poppy appeal this morning with the release of a new poppy. Its the first redesign of the historic symbol in a generation. An do you wear in a generation. An do you wear yours with pride. And speaking yours with pride. And speaking of sunak, here he is , because of sunak, here he is, because the future of ai is his hobby horse. The Prime Minister is currently talking in london for a long time , has to be said a long time, has to be said about a ai and what it means for the future. Gb news deputy the future. Gb news deputy Political Editor tom hannood was watching intently and will bring us all up to date. Let us know your thoughts when we talk about al. It sounds a bit boring, doesnt it . Its not really about al, its about freedom. Its about your freedom, about your freedom to go about your life, about whether you just become a dataset. Like human being. Yeah. There was a lot in that speech about this is a new terror only nation terror and only the nation state. The government can protect you. Ive heard that before, havent we, ben . Havent we have, havent we . Vaiews gbnews. Com is the email address. Here address. First, though, here is your latest with. Ray your very latest news with. Ray thanks both. Good morning. Its 10 01. Our top stories this its10 01. Our top stories this houn its10 01. Our top stories this hour. The government is holding an emergency cobra meeting to discuss its strategy towards the israel hamas conflict. It israel hamas conflict. It chaired by deputy Prime Minister Oliver Dowden. It comes after rishi sunak called for a pause in the war for humanitarian reasons, but rejected pleas for a ceasefire. Rishi sunak says temporary breaks would allow time to free the hostages and provide aid to the gaza strip. Provide aid to the gaza strip. However, a full ceasefire would only help hamas. He says mr sunak also stressed that israel has the right to defend itself as long as the action targets the terrorists. This is israeli the terrorists. This is Israeli Forces attacked multiple hamas targets overnight with the countrys army radio describing it as the biggest incursion yet. It as the biggest incursion yet. A video posted by the military shows tanks entering northern gaza through a border zone. A bulldozer is seen levelling part of a raised bank with tanks firing shells. Israels military firing shells. Israels military says the incursion , which says the incursion, which targeted terrorist cells and infrastructure here was a preparation for the next stages of combat. Meanwhile hamas launched a fresh wave of rockets on israeli communities. This morning and is holding 224 people hostage. In the United People hostage. In the united states. Hundreds of Police Officers are hunting for a gunman after up to 22 people were killed and dozens injured. In maine. The shootings took in maine. The shootings took place in at least two locations. A restaurant and a Bowling Alley in the city of lewiston. Police naming 40 year old robert cod as a person of interest, saying hes armed and dangerous. The small city has been asked to close its businesses and people told to stay at home. Commissioner at the department for public safety, Mike Sauschuck , says officers are sauschuck, says officers are working around the clock to find the suspect. Cod is considered the suspect. Cod is considered armed and dangerous. Armed and dangerous. He is a person of interest, however , and thats what well however, and thats what well label him at moving fonnard. Until that changes us. If people see him, they should not approach cod or make contact with him in any way. The approach cod or make contact with him in any way. The shelter with him in any way. The shelter in place order that currently stands in lewiston remains in a vehicle which was a vehicle of interest in this incident, was located in lisbon and we are now also asking residents in lisbon to shelter in place as the Prime Minister has warned that Artificial Intelligence poses a risk of Human Extinction in on the same scale as Global Pandemic and nuclear war. His comments come after touring Moorfields Eye Hospital, which uses ai touring Moorfields Eye Hospital, which uses al to diagnose blindness and eventually predict heart attacks , strokes and heart attacks, strokes and parkinsons. Speech at the Royal Society in london, rishi sunak said humanity could lose control of ai and terrorist groups could use it to spread fear and destruction. He also announced the formation of the worlds first Ai Safety Institute root here in the uk to explore the risks and share the data with the world. Get this wrong and i could make it easier to build chemical or biological weapons. Chemical or biological weapons. Terrorist groups could use ai terrorist groups could use al to spread fear and destruction on an even greater scale. On an even greater scale. Criminals could exploit ai for cyber attacks, disinformation , cyber attacks, disinformation, action fraud or even child sexual abuse. And in the most unlikely but extreme cases , unlikely but extreme cases, there is even the risk that humanity could lose control of ai completely through the kind of ai sometimes referred to as superintelligence. Superintelligence. The number of cars built in the uk increased by almost 40 last month. The society of Motor Manufacturers and traders says more than 88,000 vehicles left uk factories. Thats 25,000 more uk factories. Thats 25,000 more than september last year. Exports also increased by a third, with almost 6 in 10 cars going to the eu to the north east of scotland faces more heavy rain as the clean up continues. Following storm babet. A little bit more on this story for you. The met office hasissued story for you. The met office has issued another yellow weather warning for places including aberdeen and dundee. Thats in effect from midday today until 12 00 on saturday. Many areas experienced prolonged downpours and flooding last week. However, river levels are not forecast to be as high as before. And finally, remembrance poppies will be plastic free this year and recyclable. Their first redesign in a generation. First redesign in a generation. Its part of a move by the Royal British legion to reduce the use of Single Use Plastics. From of Single Use Plastics. From today, volunteers and supermarkets will be selling the historic symbol, which is seen as a show of solidarity towards the armed forces community. Each poppy the armed forces community. Each poppy sold raises money to support veterans and serving personnel. This is gb news personnel. This is gb news across the uk on tv , in your across the uk on tv, in your car, on Digital Radio and on your Smart Speaker by saying play gb news now lets get back to martin and. Bev to martin and. Bev good morning. Its 1006. To martin and. Bev good morning. Its1006. Its martin and bev with you this morning. Thank you very much for morning. Thank you very much for getting in touch at home. There have been youve been very busy on emails. What they been on emails. What have they been saying . Martin yeah. So one year on, i rishi sunak, of course, delivering speech i rishi sunak, of course, deliverbe speech i rishi sunak, of course, deliverbe said, speech i rishi sunak, of course, deliverbe said, which speech i rishi sunak, of course, deliverbe said, which featured has to be said, which featured lots of power for the lots of more power for the nafion lots of more power for the nation and keeping us safe nation state and keeping us safe from the new terror of ai. And we about because we talked about china because rishi is inviting china to the conference, worlds first conference, the worlds first conference, the worlds first conference at Bletchley Park. And that was a bit and i thought that was a bit strange considering fact strange considering the fact that normally accused that they normally accused china of we of spying on everything we do anyway , i put that to esther anyway, i put that to esther mcvey shirley says, mcvey and shirley says, i totally with esther. Totally disagree with esther. China will give us nothing. They will give us what they want us to have to keep us dangling. I agree, shirley, and i think its about sharing values. We dont share that many values with china. If you want to talk about use tech, just about the use of tech, just saying, lu said. Ive no doubts about of ai. Indeed about the benefits of ai. Indeed i working it before i was working with it before i retired. Was retired. However, i was particularly interested to hear how thought could be how rishi thought i could be used reduce benefits fraud used to reduce benefits fraud and the area mentioned was the production bundles for production of bundles for benefits and fraud trials. And benefits and fraud trials. And thats basically using your using an ai app on a phone to make sure theyve got all the information on you. And again, it sounds a little bit familiar with echoes of what weve seen in the past. And john says, im a tory voter, the bottom voter, but im down the bottom end the ladder. Im really end of the ladder. Im really losing the tory losing connection with the tory party is losing party because ai is losing millions paid workers millions of low paid workers jobs where lines are jobs where production lines are being in shops with being taken over in shops with self service. Tills thats my concern. This story Artificial Intelligence a bit boring. Its all a bit techie. What it means , all a bit techie. What it means, what importance is, what it what the importance is, what it will for you at home and will mean for you at home and your and your livelihoods will mean for you at home and yourthe and your livelihoods will mean for you at home and yourthe livelihoodslivelihoods will mean for you at home and yourthe livelihoods oleihoods will mean for you at home and yourthe livelihoods of your ds and the livelihoods of your children. Ill talk more about that later on, the news later on, because the good news is plumbers, bricklayers, plasterers, care workers to teachers youll be teachers, nurses, youll all be safe. Cant your not safe. I cant do yourjobs. Not yet. Right moving on. You may remember this speech from the home secretary september talking secretary in september talking about lets secretary in september talking aboui a lets secretary in september talking abouia listen lets secretary in september talking abouia listen. Lets have a listen. On multicultural ism makes no demands of the incomer to integrate. It has failed because it allowed people to come to our society and live parallel lives in it. They could be in the society, but not of the society. And in but not of the society. And in extreme cases they could pursue lives aimed at undermining the stability and threatening the security of our society. Security of our society. Well, Suella Braverman was clear on that, but she was panned for her opinions. But what was echoed in our peoples poll, where we found the following only 30 of british people think immigrants are integrating very or fairly well people think immigrants are into wider British Society , into wider British Society, while 46 think that they are integrating not very well or not well at all. So it seems the peoples poll echoes what Suella Braverman said. So has multiculturalism failed . Well, multiculturalism failed . Well, joining us is the co founder of the conservatives against racism, Albie Amankona and entrepreneur and commentator joanne josh howie. Good morning to you both. Lets start with you. Lets start with you. All you. Lets start with you. All right. So you dont think that multiculturalism working. You agree with Suella Braverman . Agree with Suella Braverman . Well , i agree with the poll, well, i agree with the poll, which says that immigrants havent done enough to integrate into British Society. But thats into British Society. But thats a different question to whether or not multiculturalism has failed. A mixed race failed. Im from a mixed race family. Im a to a testament rather, to how multicultural ism can succeed. I think to say multiculturalism has failed in absolute terms is not true. It is true that in parts of the country, multiculture ism is not working. If we look at our northern towns like oldham, rotherham and rochdale, where parallel societies have developed, example of developed, thats an example of multiculturalism not working. But we look parts of but if we look at parts of london, think we can yes, london, i think we can say yes, absolutely, multiculturalism has worked. On the question of worked. But on the question of integration, absolutely accept integration, i absolutely accept the of the poll, which the findings of the poll, which i with, which is that i do agree with, which is that there some immigrant groups, there are some immigrant groups, unfortunately, which are not doing enough to integrate into British Society and unfortunately, of unfortunately, i think part of thatis unfortunately, i think part of that is do with the fact that that is to do with the fact that there is no uk wide policy on integration. Theres no nationwide policy on integration in this country. Nationwide policy on integration in this country. And it doesnt in this country. And it doesnt just happen out of the aether. It requires government focus. It requires government focus. Do we require okay, joanna, do we require Government Intervention to make multiculturalism work better and to an extent maybe, you know, if you were talking about multiculturalism or integration in the sense of people, for example, learning english as a language, then maybe a Government Intervention would be useful. But i think that it goes beyond that as well. And i think its really interesting when we have conversation that the have this conversation that the blame always kind put at blame is always kind of put at the feet of migrants and people who are coming this country who are coming into this country. You look at northern. When you look at northern cities where im from and where i experienced certain i have experienced certain things as well, growing up, you have these parallel communities as well because of the history of how people have been treated when theyve come into these towns. I think its very rich for a, you know, a lot of people to say, well, they wont integrate. Live in their integrate. They live in their own towns and cities. But if you ask same people, would you ask those same people, would you like these to be your like these migrants to be your next door neighbour, id say absolutely like absolutely not. So id like actually for the British Public to kind of decide what side of the fence theyre on, whether they actually want these migrants who are coming in or people who arent, you know, british in ethnicity to necessarily be in their towns and villages or, you know, would they prefer for them to kind of live somewhere else with their families . Because thats whats happening. Think its happening. And i think its actually because of the actually being because of the history of people not being safe, which i completely, you know, would say has definitely improved in this country. Know, would say has definitely improved in this country. We improved in this country. We weve got to look at, you know , weve got to look at, you know, how is being shaped how the country is being shaped over the last 30 to 40 years in terms of, you know, hate crimes and things like that that have been racially aggravated. And. Well, joanna, you well, joanna, im glad you brought up hate crimes because there a surge in hate there has been a surge in hate crimes hamas invasion crimes since the hamas invasion of israel. In fact, theres been of israel. In fact, theres been a 650 increase in anti semitism across london. And its not being perpetrated by the far right White Supremacists , is it . Right White Supremacists, is it . Its being perpetrated mainly by the Muslim Community and the Jewish Community feel very unsafe. Albie, can i put it to unsafe. Albie, can i put it to you that events of the last two and a half weeks have absolutely proved that multiculturalism isnt working in britain . Isnt working in britain . I think its definitely shown that there are Community Tensions, which we have not been paying tensions, which we have not been paying enough attention to. But ijust paying enough attention to. But i just want to come back to joannas point that people in britain , White British people britain, White British people arent live next to arent happy to live next to immigrants or people from ethnic minority backgrounds. If we actually polling, minority backgrounds. If we actlevidence polling, minority backgrounds. If we actl evidence there lling, minority backgrounds. If we actlevidence there says. Minority backgrounds. If we actl evidence there says that the evidence out there says that the evidence out there says that the vast majority of british people perfectly to people are perfectly happy to live next door to a black family or an asian family or a muslim family. The issue which they have is when these families, these communities , make no these communities, make no effort to integrate into the community. I take the point that it way street, but that it is a two way street, but that means weve got to be talking about the immigrants who are coming here. Were not integrating lack integrating as well as the lack of action on the government to help immigrate more help people immigrate more integrate rather broadly. Integrate rather more broadly. I think im thinking think what im what im thinking about listening to you about as im listening to you talk here and the idea that, you know, immigrants need to assimilate and integrate into the Community Every culture that comes to live here, every every nationality, lets say , or nationality, lets say, or religion that comes to live here. They have their own culture and they bring that culture. And so we inevitably get a sort of ghettoisation around the building of a new mosque, perhaps. And in some ways , as we perhaps. And in some ways, as we all know, we benefit in some ways. Of course we do. From multiculturalism. We have some multiculturalism. We have some of the best food in the world in this country because we have a Chinese Restaurant every corner and an Indian Restaurant in every corner. The problem seems to be this ghettoisation. And to be this ghettoisation. And its interesting when youre saying about, well, maybe thats the fault of british born indigenous people, whatever you want to words you want to describe, not allowing people into their area. Well, the into their area. Well, the cultures often which are brought here are so clearly defined and so strong that there isnt that melding of beliefs or values or socialising or children. And i dont know how we start to break that down. Joanna how do we start to do that . Well, can i just say that in terms of present day britain , i terms of present day britain, i definitely dont think that its as bad as what it used to be. So i want to kind of make that clear. And i think that what were seeing now in terms of the towns and cities and people who have, stayed their have, you know, stayed in their own corners as a result own corners has been as a result of things that have happened in the i think it the future. But i think it totally depends on what we actually mean by integration. And if a british and so, you know, if a british person would be happy with somebody, who lives somebody, you know, who lives next them, as long as next door to them, as long as they integrate , what does that they integrate, what does that actually that mean actually mean . Does that mean that dont want to kind of, that you dont want to kind of, you know, able to, you know , you know, be able to, you know, if you come into your house, you cant kind of smell their own kind of cultural food on, you know , being cooked their know, being cooked in their houseis know, being cooked in their house is it that you have to be able to only smell roast dinners being cooked . So i think that we need to really clear with need to be really clear with that. The vast majority of that. And the vast majority of people i think that when you ask them question on them the question on the surface, they you know, surface, they would, you know, as probably welcoming as kind and probably welcoming people yes, you know, people would say yes, you know, id absolutely to have id be absolutely fine to have somebody another country somebody from another country live but the live next door to me. But the reality is need to be real reality is we need to be real about what makes people uncomfortable. Things uncomfortable. And it is things like joanna, when you look at but joanna, when you look at the socially conservative the very socially conservative values , say, for example, of the values, say, for example, of the british Muslim Community and actually, in fact, a poll by icm shows that 36 of british muslims would prefer to live next door to another muslim. So i mean, it kind of goes both ways. People like be around ways. People like to be around their own people thats their own people and thats fine. Natural. Thats fine. Thats natural. Thats understandable. Its not discrimination. Its a choice. But when we look at some of the further social values that come out, there is an out, we can see there is an incompatibility with a lot of progressive british politics. For example, 52 of british muslims felt homosexuality should be illegal, while in a poll in 2015, clearly at odds with the direction of travel of where britain is going. And is that the point . Maybe the more hard line version of the school to simply dont want to play by the progressive game . The progressive game . Well. I the progressive game . Well. I think and im not i mean, im actually catholic, so theres not really a lot that i can speak on behalf of the muslim for community with things that youve brought up. But but, you know, i think in terms of opinions, a lot of us have our own kind of controversial opinions. I think matters opinions. I think it matters whether those people actually act in terms of, you know, act on it in terms of, you know, having certain opinions about homosexuality, etcetera. People can things can have conservative things and, they kind of have and, you know, they kind of have the that in my house, these the view that in my house, these are the rules. Are are the rules. These are the things kind of agree with things that i kind of agree with or disagree with because of my religion thats fine. Religion or thats fine. And they can act that in their they can act on that in their personal but it personal life. But i think it also, you know , it differs when also, you know, it differs when you actually act on that the you actually act on that in the outside or you have outside world. Or maybe you have a hate crime against lgbt. Yeah. Sorry to interrupt you, joanna. I yeah. Sorry to interrupt you, joanna. I just want to get albion as well at the end is i think what were hearing here is we have immigrants who arrive here with very firm, here with very, very firm, defined religion and defined identity, religion and culture values. The british identity. Of what we might see identity. Of what we might see as a traditional sort of anglo saxon image of what it is to be a brit. It is very amorphous , isnt it . Its very amorphous, isnt it . Its very hard to pin down. We Start Talking about things like cricket and scones, but actually, what a cup of tea, all great things. But what it is fundamentally, i suppose, to be british in what is still a Christian Country with the with the king and the church of england, weve were losing that , arent we . Isnt that what the problem is here . We could all live happily side by side, but some people dont quite know what a british identity is. What a british identity is. No, i dont. I dont think were losing it. We just dont talk about it enough. And we need to talk about it more. Its about democracy. Its about the rule of law. Its about freedom of speech. Its about freedom of association. Buying association. It is about buying into and when into those values. And when people say that people are integrating into British Society , it is when people move to this country and they do not buy into those British Values. And those very British Values. And that we see the community that is how we see the Community Tensions in tensions that weve seen in flame over the past few weeks since the israel hamas conflict. Okay. All right. Thank you both. Interesting. Both. Really interesting. Conservatives against racism Albie Amankona there and entrepreneur and commentator joanna jack , lovely to speak to joanna jack, lovely to speak to you both. I think its really interesting. I think we do have to that conversation. Do to have that conversation. Do you see how the sun came in on ill in just the ill be there in just at the moment in sort of heavenly moment in the sort of heavenly celestial, celestial manner, beautiful. Started beautiful. As you started talking about British Values that wasnt deliberate here on gb wasnt wasnt it gb news. But wasnt it wasnt it lovely . Know what you lovely . Let us know what you think, you . Views at think, wont you . Gb views at gbnews. Com is the email address. Think, wont you . Gb views at gbn how com is the email address. Think, wont you . Gb views at gbn how dor is the email address. Think, wont you . Gb views at gbn how do we the email address. Think, wont you . Gb views at gbn how do we encourage address. And how do we encourage multiculturalism also multiculturalism whilst also maintaining a sense of values of what it is to be a brit . And often British Values are just routinely mocked or expected to just be constantly absorbing of everything else. And complain then and if you complain then then youre a racist. I think people, a of people are feeling a lot of people are feeling a bit fed up of that, especially when racism on the when we see the racism on the streets today. Its coming from very different quarters. You agree . That how do you agree . Is that how you feel . Know. Right. Feel . Do let us know. Right. Still come, Remembrance Day still to come, Remembrance Day is coming up and the poppy has got design. Got a new modern design. Were gb news, yeah, were gb news, britains channel. Want to keep you entertained. The. Camilla tominey british the. Camilla tominey british legion, poppy appeal begins today to raise money for veterans remembrance. Poppies have had a redesign in this year and will be plastic free and recyclable for the very first time. Sophie reaper has been asking people on the streets of liverpool what they thought the british thought about the british tradition. Tradition. I think its great. I think its wonderful way to raise for money all the veterans here in england and i wish we would do more on november 11th in the states. And i wish you guys all states. And i wish you guys all well and to have a great day here in england on november 11th. Excellent. Should do every excellent. Should do every year. Excellent. Should do every year. Probably doesnt raise year. Probably doesnt raise enough money than what it should. Maybe its not the forefront of peoples minds in todays economic problems and things. But yeah , definitely things. But yeah, definitely worthwhile, of course. And do you support it . Oh, gosh, yes, definitely. Definitely. I mean, its obviously for the troops and everyone supports the troops and everyone supports the troops and everyone supports the troops , but recent years the troops, but recent years its been a little bit more controversial, for want of a better term. Its, you know, better term. Its, you know, its in our country, obviously. Its in our country, obviously. Its we look at our army , our its we look at our army, our military, but in other countries, its got different connotations. So something you kind of have to be mindful of, but ultimately its a good cause whether, you know, government and things like that could do more to support it. So it wasnt necessary. That might be a good necessary. That might be a good thing. And will you be wearing your poppy thing. And will you be wearing your poppy this year . Yeah, will one. Yeah, i will get one. Yeah, i will get one. Yeah, i will get one. Yeah, seen that. Its yeah, ive seen that. Its theyve removed some of the plastics from it as well which is know is obviously you know environmental and that Environmental Concerns and that um but yeah i will i will get one. One. We have our poppies hotfooting their way into the studio this morning as it is the launch day for poppies. Well, joining us now is sophie reaper. Good morning, sophie. Good morning. So just, just kind of morning. So just, just kind of reflect a little, if you would, on on the poppy appeal, why this is still so important today, why we mustnt lose this tradition. We mustnt lose this tradition. Good morning to you both. Good morning to you both. Well, its a little bit of a grim day here in liverpool today, but it is, of course, a very special occasion. The launch of the poppy appeal. Now of course, the poppy is a hugely iconic symbol, not only for remembering our veterans who over the years have dedicated their lives to our armed forces, but it also is a way for the Royal British legion to raise money for our current veterans and their families, those who may need a little bit more support. Now, the launching will be going on here at liverpool town hall today. Here in merseyside. Now you may have heard there that the plastic poppies are now going to becoming a thing of the past. These poppies are probably what our viewers will most associate with the symbol with for anyone whos whos listening on the radio, its the traditional poppy radio, its the traditional poppy that youll see in peoples buttonholes. So of course, the leaf and the petals there are are paper, but the stem itself at the back and the black centre there that says poppy appeal black centre there that says peppy appeal , black centre there that says poppy appeal , they are made of poppy appeal, they are made of plastic now for the first time in 28 years. This poppy, is getting a little bit of a makeover ever. So instead, i havent managed to get my hands on one of the new ones yet. I will be getting one later at the launch so i can show that then. But the new one will be made of 100 paper, which means it will be re recyclable. Now, until this point, you havent been able to recycle the poppy itself. Can it to itself. You can take it to special facilities, but you unable to recycle them at home, move going fonnard, though, now because of this brand new makeover, the poppy will be 100 recycled because its 100 made of paper. Now of course, even the poppy going fonnard is being conscious of the environment, but its also , of course, this but its also, of course, this symbol of remembrance going fonnard until until remembrance sunday, which, as we all know , sunday, which, as we all know, is later on, on november, people will be able to purchase their poppy will be able to purchase their poppy this year, show support for the Royal British legion and our veterans, whilst also knowing that they are being environmentally conscious as acas and stuff. Now, the interesting thing about about the poppy this year, of course, its made from 100 recyclable paper. Now we havent recyclable paper. Now we havent seen one of them yet, but the thing i like about the Old School One im wearing here is the plastic goes straight easily through your lapel notch and i wonder if a bit like paper straws, a recycling with a soft paper worn is going to be practically be a good thing . Practically be a good thing . Well, of course there is always the alternate motive of purchasing a poppy that you can use year on year. I myself am wearing the little pin badge here with manchester bee here with the manchester bee that wear for year on that i can wear for year on yean that i can wear for year on year. So if you if youre not a big fan 100 paper one, big fan of the 100 paper one, you can always go with the pin badge. Okay. All right. Thank you, sophie. Thank you so much. The thing is, ive got the metal ones as well, but then i think if youre buying them every if youre not buying them every yean if youre not buying them every year, just still put little year, just still put a little bit money the box. Wont bit of money in the box. Wont you . Still to this you . Right. Still to come this morning and what is a woman . Well, people well, 70 of british people think transgender woman think that a transgender woman is woman. So maybe our is not a woman. So maybe our schools and hospitals should reflect. Reflect this. Yeah. And like it or lump it home office works have been told they to cancel they must take steps to cancel they must take steps to cancel the support Asylum Seekers receive if they do not board the barge. Bibby stockholm home this week. That and much, much more after your mornings news with. Ray good morning. Its 1029. Ray good morning. Its1029. Im good morning. Its1029. Im ray addison in the newsroom. The government is holding an emergency cobra meeting to discuss its strategy towards the israel hamas conflict. It comes israel hamas conflict. It comes after the pm called for a pause in the war for humanity reasons, but rejected pleas for a ceasefire. Rishi sunak says temporary breaks would allow time to provide aid to gaza. But a full ceasefire would only help hamas. Well, Israeli Forces hamas. Well, Israeli Forces attacked multiple hamas targets overnight with the countrys army radio describing it as the biggest incursion yet. Video biggest incursion yet. Video posted by the military shows tanks entering northern gaza through a border zone. A bulldozer is seen levelling part of a razed bank with tanks firing shells. Israels military firing shells. Israels military says the incursion, which targeted terrorist cells and infrastructure, was a preparation for the next stages of combat. Meanwhile, preparation for the next stages of combat. Meanwhile, hamas launched a fresh wave of rockets on israeli communities this morning and is holding 224 people hostage. Well in the people hostage. Well in the united states, hundreds of Police Officers are hunting for a gunman after up to 22 minutes were killed. 22 people were killed and dozens injured. In maine , police named 40 year old maine, police named 40 year old robert card as a person of interest, saying hes armed and dangerous. The shootings took place in at least two locations. A restaurant and a Bowling Alley in the city of lewiston in the small city has been asked to close its businesses and people told to stay at home. And the Prime Minister has warned that Artificial Intelligence poses a risk of human extinct, an on the same scale as Global Pandemics and nuclear war. His comments come after touring Moorfields Eye Hospital, which uses ai come after touring Moorfields Eye Hospital, which uses al to diagnose blindness. Speaking at diagnose blindness. Speaking at the Royal Society in london, rishi sunak said humanity could lose control of ai and terrorist groups could use it to spread fear and destruction. He also announced that the formation of the worlds first Ai Safety Institute in the uk would be taking place soon to explore the risks and share the data with the world. You can get more on all of those stories on our website, gbnews. Com. Im for website, gbnews. Com. Im for stunning gold and silver coins youll always value. 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But a new gb news gb news peoples poll has revealed that only 30 of brits think a transgender woman is actually a woman. Woman. So joining us now is diversity and inclusion facilitator kay john when good morning, kay. So facilitator kay john when good morning, kay. So what do facilitator kay john when good morning, kay. So what do you make of this conclusion of our poll that 30 of british people think that a transgender woman is actually a woman . Othennise, is actually a woman . Othennise, 70 of people dont . Whats your reaction to that . Reaction to that . Well, its a poll. Its well, its a poll. Its a very binary question. And it is something that has definitely gone down over the last 5 or 6 years of the whole kind of culture war around the discussion of trans people. And discussion of trans people. And to the extent where weve seen those numbers change from Something Like 70 odd down to Something Like 70 odd down to about 55, if you look at the British Social Attitudes survey , British Social Attitudes survey, i think the very fractious war of words over trans gender has definitely seen it drop below 50. Now but there is a big difference between asking the question, you know, is a trans woman , a woman and asking, how woman, a woman and asking, how do we treat trans people in society . Should a trans Person Society . Should a trans person in society have access to the same things women have . And same things women have . And where does that start and where doesit where does that start and where does it stop . Because clearly there situations, prisons, there are situations, prisons, sports refuges , etcetera, where sports refuges, etcetera, where those may change. And those questions may change. And the thing is as well, if to even be trans gender, you have to acknowledge that the sex youre transitioning from. So to me, a transitioning from. Soto me, a transitioning from. Soto me, a trans woman is a trans woman and as soon as you start doing gotcha questions on, you know, our trans women , women and our trans women, women and asking politicians, theyre all going to stumble with yes, no answer is when there is definitely a yes no answer around sex. But theres a kind of how do we treat and acknowledge you around gender . Well, katie jones , always well, katie jones, always a pleasure to have you on because youre very kind of open minded about things that get people often quite hot under the collar. And do you think maybe that changing in societal that the changing in societal attitudes, the hardening in the in a sense towards this is because people have seen very clear indications of the unfairness . You mentioned , for unfairness . You mentioned, for example, prisons, the isla bryson case, the male double rapist who was allowed initially by the snp to go to a womens jail, and that almost brought down the entire party and caused a huge uproar. Do you think that people are now seeing these things, if you like , with the things, if you like, with the full glare of publicity and thats whats actually making them this is just a bit them think this is just a bit unfair and its not fair towards women in particular . Well, we have these laws , the well, we have these laws, the 2004 recognition act, the 2004 gender recognition act, the 2010 equality act, and for many years we were living quite comfortably for the smaller number of people who were trans kind of accommodating them in society. The equality act is literally about reasonable adjustment, making accommodations and particularly in the Public Sector kind of the pubuc in the Public Sector kind of the Public Sector duty to foster good relations between the various protected characteristics. And as we now characteristics. And as we now understand through some cases in court, that gender critical beliefs are to be accepted as a protected characteristic as well. So there is a public duty to foster good relations between both those people who dont accept that trans women are women and those that believe they are or want to be treated as. And its trying to find how as. And its trying to find how do we create a coexistence and society that allows everyone to happily get on with things. But that then being that does mean then being willing discuss, to debate, willing to discuss, to debate, to look applications and to look at applications and situations. As the equality act situations. As the equality act itself has a whole bunch of cases and kind of descriptions in its notes about when and where you can and cant exclude a trans woman. And thats always been the case where in relation to prisons in relation to kind of security , pat downs, etcetera of security, pat downs, etcetera , and people have had the right to kind of interpret the law. But people for the first few years after the equality act interpreted everything literally benignly, favourably. And then benignly, favourably. And then there was kick back. And i think we have to move back to kind of what what does the balance look like . So that definitely with the present case, i think its fairly clear what we shouldnt do and policy has now do and the policy has now changed. I think sport , the changed. I think with sport, the sport been changing in sport has been changing in dozens dozens of sports. Dozens and dozens of sports. Its not nice. Trans people need to be active sport too, but to be active in sport too, but theyre to going be active theyre not to going be active on a womens in a womens place, as and those as it were. And i think those conversations should be held without getting personal, without getting personal, without human, izing without being human, izing people, without getting angry. How we talk about it . How can we talk about it . Im interested to say to hear you say, katie , john, that if you say, katie, john, that if wed asked this question five years ago, more people would have said that trans is have said that a trans woman is truly a what do you think truly a woman. What do you think this statistic will look like in another because you another five years . Because you might say one might say that raising awareness of the issue has actually entrenched the position that biological sex is genuine and somehow we have to find a language to represent trans people that doesnt upset non trans people, if you know what i mean. Yeah so for example, the kind of the big war of words at the moment has been from the trans side. I think its been as wrong for the trans side to come up with this very simplistic mantra and slogan to put on every single demonstration to send out to mps saying you must sign this declaration trans women are women. And then youve had the kickback from the other side saying trans women are men, which is equally true at a biological level. But one is talking about gender. One is talking about gender. One is talking about gender. One is talking about sex and they can say those two things until theyre blue in face. But theyre blue in their face. But as your one of your earlier as with your one of your earlier pieces morning about pieces this morning about multiculturalism and British Values, is wrong with values, what is wrong with finding kind of the nuance of both and recognising that sex is sex and gender is gender and not seeing as one trying to overtake the other, but recognising that there have always been trans people, there have always been gender Diverse People , people gender Diverse People, people who kind of broke the rules on gender throughout history and they need to be accommodated and accepted in society with this humanisation not only with human rights. So i think you have to balance womens rights and trans rights. They are different and where they intersect, you have to converse. But i do not know how we step back from the language war we have and the political war we have. So youre right. I dont know. In five years time, will it be 10 of people saying it or will it go back up again . Because i think there is an age demographic to some of the kind of the kick back and, you know, and if you look at other countries around the world, some are rushing fonnard with this kind of liberal inclusion. Liberal progressive inclusion. Hey, what call hey, i dont care what you call yourself, all be yourself, lets all just be human together and happy. And then other countries like the uk, us some others where uk, the us and some others where theres kick so theres a stronger kick back. So i you say its i think you cant say its happening globally. Its okay. Kate thank you, katie. John went just fascinating. Kate thank you, katie. John wentjust fascinating. Thank kate thank you, katie. John went just fascinating. Thank you went just fascinating. Thank you so much. Its such interesting insight, isnt it . Yeah. Well continue the discussion now, please be joined by the Political Editor of the daily express, sam lister, and of course, journalist and broadcaster the show, broadcaster regular on the show, carol why dont broadcaster regular on the show, carstart why dont broadcaster regular on the show, car start with why dont broadcaster regular on the show, carstart with you. Why dont broadcaster regular on the show, carstart with you. Thisrhy dont broadcaster regular on the show, carstart with you. This poll, nt we start with you. This poll, only 30 of brits agree. A trans woman can be a woman. Im surprised its that high, to be honest, sir. Dumas and you know, im just listening to katie there. I wish there were more track trans activists and people in that group who would be talking like because i think like her because i think we would in much better would be in a much better position today because because the fact of it is its the its the fact of it is its the its the dogma of some trans activists who will insist that we have to say a trans woman is a woman. We know that is not the case. A woman is not case. A trans woman is not a biological woman. And katie did say that shouldnt the say that shouldnt have been the question. Think is question. But i think it is a legitimate question to say is the trans woman a woman . She says it should be how we treat trans well, think every trans women. Well, i think every Single Person would agree a Single Person would agree that a trans them well. Trans woman, we wish them well. We life is difficult. Live we know life is difficult. Live the very lives they can. The very best lives they can. However, dont expect to have the same rights as biological women, and think we have to women, and i think we have to pay women, and i think we have to pay attention. And katie, pay more attention. And katie, to attention. Shes you know, to attention. Shes you know, the rights have to be different if a biological woman is uncomfortable woman uncomfortable with a trans woman being in a changing room, being in same adnoc cant think of in the same adnoc cant think of a million situations, then we have heed of that. And have to take heed of that. And i and i think and but i think martins right. Im, im surprised that its as high as 30. What do you think, sam . Thats sort of similar question then about where do you think this will go in the next few years . Because katie, john was saying there that she thinks the Younger Generation accept Younger Generation will accept it more. I see the opposite. I see teenagers sat around my Kitchen Table and the Younger Generation are not buying a lot of identity politics now. Of the identity politics now. Its difficult, isnt i think its difficult, isnt it . Because i think actually i think the reason there was a change in position was because it became such a furious war. I think probably five, ten years ago, people actually just felt that they wanted to be kind and, you know , as inclusive as you know, as inclusive as possible. And then it became this very, very bitter war between gender critical feminists and who were often called terfs. And it all got very abusive. And i think that has made it very difficult to have a sensible discussion. I think people like katie, john, actually we need more people like she was amazing. Ive never heard anyone speak like, yeah, to put both ends so convincingly. And the fact of convincingly. And the fact of the matter there are some the matter is there are some women society, know, i women in society, you know, i take my hat off to women like j. K. Sharron davies, take my hat off to women like j. K. Have, Sharron Davies, take my hat off to women like j. K. Have, know, rron davies, take my hat off to women like j. K. Have, know, sharronies, who have, you know, Sharron Davies almost cancelled davies was almost cancelled because her views on this. Because of her views on this. You know, she lost jobs. She you know, she lost jobs. She lost but, you know, lost contracts. But, you know, people sharon and people people like sharon and people like katie could together. Like katie could get together. I think world would much think the world would be a much more. Yeah take the emotion out of and take the emotion out of it, isnt it . Its a bit looking at it impassioned. Thats right. Passionately. Story sam passionately. Next story sam lister, yours express lister, one of yours express online, been covering online, a story been covering a lot course, the bibby lot of course, the bibby stockholm far from the stockholm never far from the headlines. Latest headlines. Whats the latest twist the tale . Headlines. Whats the latest twi yeah,1e tale . Headlines. Whats the latest twi yeah, my ale . Headlines. Whats the latest twi yeah, my colleague michael yeah, my colleague Michael Knowles yesterday yeah, my colleague michael kwhich; yesterday yeah, my colleague michael kwhich; basically yesterday yeah, my colleague michael kwhich; basically guidanceiay , which its basically guidance from the home office telling Home Office Caseworkers that they must not threaten in. Perhaps this is too strong a word , but anybody who is word, but anybody who is assigned to go on the bibby stockholm, if they refuse, they should have. Theyve got five days to accept that offer. If they refuse within that time , they refuse within that time, they refuse within that time, they will be stripped of their benefits. Kind of benefits benefits. What kind of benefits do you mean . Because if youre because i thought if youre an you cant an asylum seeker, you cant claim benefits, but youre getting money from the state. To money help you. You do get to money help you. Yeah, mean, its obviously yeah, i mean, its obviously its not the kind of standard universal credit but you have universal credit but you do have money, need to money, obviously, you need to live. Its about £50 live. So i think its about £50 a so its not. So its not. So its not. Yeah, but you know, clearly this is about saying to Asylum Seekers to illegal migrants, if you come , um, come to our shores you come, um, come to our shores and you are offered accommodation, you have to accept it. You cant pick and choose what type of accommodation and where it is. And there will be penalties for that. I think that that. So i think that that whether the actual case office is follow this through, that is the thing. Because obviously that part of the problem. People said no, if they still people said no, if they still said where would they get said no, where would they get put . What prison . No, think deported well, no, i think deported this kind of all this this is kind of all coinciding what happened yesterday creasy yesterday as well. Stella creasy in the commons made a point of saying that someone in her constituency given constituency was being given seven notice. Bit seven days notice. A bit disingenuous because actually the given 28 the person had been given 28 days seven days notice. Days and then seven days notice. So disingenuous but the so a bit disingenuous. But the bottom line is and jenrick i thought brilliant. I mean, thought was brilliant. I mean, i dont very or dont say that very often or very lightly, but he was brilliant the comments. Yes. Brilliant in the comments. Yes. He know, people who he said, you know, people who come here and who are granted asylum said that asylum and they said that means they entitled to proper they are then entitled to proper benefits should benefits and they should be working that this the working and that this is the reality of british life. Dont come expect to be put come here and expect to be put up in a four star hotel for the rest your life. Youre going rest of your life. Youre going youre to settled and youre going to get settled and then going to get job. Then youre going to get a job. And dont want to do and if you dont want to do that, then go back. And i think i i feel government is i think i feel the government is hardening on this a little hardening up on this a little bit. I theyre getting bit. I feel theyre getting tough and to the cheers of people the country. People all over the country. And i thing about the i think this thing about the bibby stockholm, you it bibby stockholm, you know, it costs the government 500 grand to the kind order to get it into the kind of order that it was demanded it was costing 24 grand a day to stay empty if migrant was empty if a migrant who was supposed and supposed to be fleeing war and persecution does not like the bibby stockholm with its with persecution does not like the bitbazball holm with its with persecution does not like the bitbazball court, with its with persecution does not like the bitbazball court, with its gym, its bazball court, with its gym, with it centre, all that with its it centre, all that three meals a day, they dont three meals a day, if they dont like that, well then make like that, well then, then make your arrangements yesterday like that, well then, then make your out ngements yesterday like that, well then, then make your out ngenthes yesterday like that, well then, then make your out ngenthe £800 erday like that, well then, then make your out ngenthe £800 aday we found out that the £800 a night costs for the bibby stockholm is cheaper than an it costs to stay in kings costs to stay in the kings suite in the savoy hotel on mayfair. Mayfair. We go. So there we go. So there we go. Thats costing is it thats costing what is it costing a yeah its like 2. 3 billion a year the hotels. Billion a year for the hotels. Yeah government has now yeah and the government has now pledged 50 by christmas pledged to cut 50 by christmas and january. And another 50 in january. May not be a and it may not be a coincidence that we might have a general election looming this general election looming as this appears the appears to have focussed the minds of the politicians. Just saying in christ saying right, labour in christ is itself apart is tearing itself apart over israel, whether keir israel, over whether keir starmer the right thing to starmer says the right thing to the Muslim Community and the Jewish Community. Sam, its, its hes walked into a big hot mess, hasnt he . Here it is a real mess for him and this is its a legacy issue from Jeremy Corbyn, isnt it . Think because of the and i think because of the upset in labour from the Jeremy Corbyn era and the anti semitism that really took over the party at that time, keir starmer has really had to show how tough he is on this, so hes gone is on this, and so hes gone incredibly line. But by incredibly hard line. But by doing he has now alienated doing so, he has now alienated many muslim members of the party. He had to have an emergency meeting with mps yesterday to try and calm some of the tensions around this. It followed an interview where he appeared that he appeared to suggest that he backed the siege of gaza , that backed the siege of gaza, that he backed israels right to cut off water and food supplies. And off water and food supplies. And thats caused a great deal of upset. And hes now in a bit of a pickle because if you go too far one way, you one group and if you go too far the other way, you alienate the other group. And i think hes kind of going to find it very difficult to navigate his way through this. Actually. Its funny, carol, because you at the because when you look at the data, of british muslims data, 78 of british muslims voted labour 2019 voted for labour at the 2019 general elections. Is the general elections. This is the big in terms of the votes. Big deal in terms of the votes. But put it to you. Why is but i just put it to you. Why is it 250 labour councillors it that 250 labour councillors are so under the are getting so hot under the collar about going in collar about whats going on in gaza . When youve got the gaza . But when youve got the lists of where the councillors rocks rochdale grooming gang, rotherham rocks rochdale grooming gang, rotherh population in biggest population of jews in britain, the batley britain, kirklees, the batley grammar teacher. Why do Grammar School teacher. Why do they about domestic they care about domestic politics and care about politics more and care about gaza less . Gaza less . What kind of shows you is martin that that when starmer told he rooted out all told us that he rooted out all the anti semitism in the party, well, he hadnt actually, because it is back again. Because here it is back again. And i think, know, when and i think, you know, when starmer took stand last starmer took this stand last week actually came out week when he actually came out and the attack on and condemned the attack on gaza, i thought on israel, sorry. I thought, oh, my god , sorry. I thought, oh, my god, this is this is good. Actually, knowing what the labour party is like, knowing that the corbynites are still there, theyve been quiet. But actually i fully expecting him do i am fully expecting him to do a 180 turn where hes going 180 degree turn where hes going to now hes already the rollback has already started because he actually wanted, he said he wanted to put out a clarification on yesterday of what he actually meant about the siege of gaza. Theres no clarification necessary. He said what he said, we all heard it. And the bottom line is this is going to show what kind of Prime Minister hes going to make. Is he going stick by his he going to stick by his principle goals or is he going to he always does . To fold like he always does . Well, hes not calling a well, hes not calling this a flip for nothing. Is he flip flop for nothing. Is he going to is he to going show us that mean more to him than that votes mean more to him than principle . That votes mean more to promises. To him than promises. And i think they do. And were already 150 muslim have 150 muslim councillors have written and said they written to him and said they have in him. There have no confidence in him. There are handful of who have are a handful of them who have resigned. So this is a huge crisis. Hes got a chance here to the jewish people he to get the jewish people that he lost round. There were lost last time round. There were just starting come back to just starting to come back to the party and now theyre saying we we had Khalid Mahmood we had we had Khalid Mahmood earlier, still has earlier, labour mp, he still has very faith in keir starmer. Very much faith in keir starmer. He was the first muslim mp i think in this country, wasnt he . Khalid we its interesting what carol was saying then about you of prime you see what kind of Prime Minister starmer might minister keir starmer might be under sort of pressure. How under this sort of pressure. How do you think rishi sunak is doing with this pressure at the moment with i mean, doing with this pressure at the m0|interesting. I mean, doing with this pressure at the m0|interesting. There i mean, doing with this pressure at the m0|interesting. There was1ean, its interesting. There was a cobra meeting this morning and he conference talking he was at a conference talking about intelligence about Artificial Intelligence once. Do think hes once. How do you think hes doing . Think he is doing . Sam im i think he is very aligning us with very clearly aligning us with the us on this. And obviously in europe, there a slightly there has been a slightly different approach in that people have calling people have been calling for a ceasefire should has ceasefire. We should sunak has been firm in insisting that been very firm in insisting that he is not backing those calls at the moment and we are very much augned the moment and we are very much aligned with the us and i think thats probably the natural position for the uk on this. But then we did see obviously yesterday this pmqs he did say he wants to see specific pauses in hostilities to allow aid to get into gaza and i think that is the kind of line he is trying to tread that actually the civilians in gaza , the innocent civilians in gaza, the innocent people in gaza, they do need our support. They do need that food. They do need that water, the oil and what have you. But he is and what have you. But he is very hard line in terms of israel has its right to defend itself. Yeah. Okay. Sam lister, karen okay. Sam lister, karen malone, were going to have to leave it there. But well see you again in the next hour. Thank you very much. Excellent. Thank you both. Let us know your thoughts this morning. Vaiews gbnews. Com your thoughts this morning. Vaiews |nbnews. Com your thoughts this morning. Vaiews |n just s. Com your thoughts this morning. Vaiews |n just s. Few moments, address. In just a few moments, were be talking to gb were going to be talking to gb news Arlene Foster on the news own Arlene Foster on the chaos labour party as well. Were gb news britains news channel hello , very good morning to hello, very good morning to you. Its Aidan Mcgivern here from the met office with the gb news forecast bit of a gloomy one out there this morning. Lots of low clouds, some mist and fog patches as well, and further rain showers to come. For rain or showers to come. For many us, its a windy one as many of us, its a windy one as well. For the north of well. For the far north of scotland, northern isles, seeing some scotland, northern isles, seeing sorr morning scotland, northern isles, seeing sorrmorning and early afternoon the morning and early afternoon combined with some heavy rain. Its going feel very its not going to feel very pleasant the rainfall pleasant here. The rainfall increasingly up across increasingly mounting up across eastern next increasingly mounting up across east days, next increasingly mounting up across eastdays, not next increasingly mounting up across eastdays, not as next increasingly mounting up across eastdays, not as as next increasingly mounting up across eastdays, not as as lastt few days, not as much as last week, but any additional rainfall, course, cause rainfall, of course, could cause further will further issues. There will also be persistent rain at times be some persistent rain at times for england. Showers for Eastern England. Showers elsewhere interspersed by sunny spells , and it will feel a bit spells, and it will feel a bit milder compared with yesterday. But gusty wind carry the but a gusty wind will carry the showers through across southwestern hail and southwestern areas. Hail and thunder coasts. So quite thunder around coasts. So quite a lively day of weather wherever you are into the evening, the showers continue and the longer spells of rain continue as well. Across central and eastern scotland, eastern scotland, parts of Eastern England, a lot of low cloud once again, some mist again, reforming some mist patches dawn. Its patches by dawn. But its another mild start to the day. Tomorrow with temperatures in the double figures in places. The double figures in places. Now, friday is a day of two halves across the uk. Weve got a lot of stubborn cloud for scotland , for northern and scotland, for northern and Eastern England, some persistent rain at times, along with a gusty breeze elsewhere, brighter skies , some sunny spells, but skies, some sunny spells, but frequent and heavy showers coming through across Northern Ireland and wales. The southern half of england, temperatures reaching 15 celsius, a touch cooler compared with today. Cooler compared with today. Still to come this morning, how much trouble are the labour party in over this issue in the middle east . Yeah, well have gb news presenter Arlene Foster. Up n ext next its over the morning. Its 11 am. On thursday the 25th october. This is britains newsroom with myself. Martin daubney and bev turner. Thank very much for thank you very much for joining morning. So joining us this morning. So is labour the ropes . Sir keir labour on the ropes . Sir keir starmer a meeting with starmer held a meeting with muslim mps last night as he tried to stop people from leaving party over its leaving the party over its stance on israel. Arlene foster stance on israel. Arlene foster joins us to discuss that next. And mass shooting. At least 16 people have reportedly been killed in the us city of lewiston , maine, and a search is lewiston, maine, and a search is undennay for the gunman. Well have all the latest. Have all the latest. This noon normalising of gun deaths and shootings in america is just so extraordinary, isnt it . It feels like every week something happens. So were something happens. So were going to be discussing that, arent we . Whether whether there should be changing the gun laws. Right. Know thoughts right. Let us know your thoughts this morning. Vaiews gbnews. Com right. Let us know your thoughts ththeiorning. Vaiews gbnews. Com right. Let us know your thoughts th the email. Vaiews gbnews. Com right. Let us know your thoughts th the email. Vaiews gbnews. Com right. Let us know your thoughts th the email. First, ws gbnews. Com right. Let us know your thoughts ththe email. First, though, 3ws. Com right. Let us know your thoughts th the email. First, though, the com is the email. First, though, the very latest news with ray addison. Addison. Thank you both. Good morning. Its 11 am. Im ray addison in the newsroom. Our top stories. The newsroom. Our top stories. The government is holding an emergency cobra meeting on the escalating crisis. This in the escalating crisis. This in the middle east. This after the Prime Minister called for a pause in the war between israel and hamas for humanitarian reasons , but rejected pleas for reasons, but rejected pleas for a ceasefire. Rishi sunak says temporary breaks would allow for the delivery of aid to gaza , but the delivery of aid to gaza, but a full ceasefire will only help the terrorist group. The meeting chaired by the deputy pm, also addressed the governments strategy to help free british hostages. Well, meanwhile, hostages. Well, meanwhile, israel launched its biggest incursion into gaza overnight with tanks temporarily entering the strip, paving the way for the strip, paving the way for the next stages of combat. In the next stages of combat. In video posted by the military , a video posted by the military, a bulldozer is also seen levelling part of a raised bank. Israel Defence Forces say fighter jets hit over 250. Hamas targets, including infrastructure and tunnel shafts. Hamas also fired a fresh wave of rockets towards southern israel. This morning. Southern israel. This morning. European Union Leaders are calling for the establishment of humanitarian corridors , eyes and humanitarian corridors, eyes and pauses to get aid into gaza. Thats according to the final draft of a text to be approved at a summit in brussels. Draft of a text to be approved at a summit in brussels. Later, at a summit in brussels. Later, Council Members say theyre concerned about the deteriorating humanitarian situation in the strip. They say situation in the strip. They say fuel also needs to be among the items delivered to palestinian civilians. But Israeli Army Spokesperson Lieutenant Colonel Jonathan Conricus says the United Nations should ask hamas for fuel supplies. For fuel supplies. We responded to unrwas claim by referring them to where hamas, which governs the gaza strip, stores , fuel both diesel strip, stores, fuel both diesel fuel and other types of and benzene and other types of fuel. Its all inside the gaza strip and theres enough for many days for hospitals and water pumps to run only the priorities are different. Hamas prefer years to have all of the fuel for its war fighting capabilities. Fuel for its war fighting capabilities. In fuel for its war fighting capabilities. In the united capabilities. In the united states, hundreds of Police Officers are hunting for a gunman after up to 22 people were killed and dozens injured. Were killed and dozens injured. In maine, police named 40 year old robert card as a person of interest, saying hes armed and dangerous. The shootings took place in at least two locations, a restaurant and a Bowling Alley in the city of lewiston in the small city, has been asked to close its businesses. And people told to stay at home. Commissioner at the department of public safety, Mike Sauschuck, says officers are working around the clock to find the suspect card is considered armed and dangerous. He is a person of interest however, and thats what well label him at moving fonnard. Label him at moving fonnard. Until that changes, if people see him, they should not approach card or make contact with him in any way. The approach card or make contact with him in any way. The shelter with him in any way. The shelter in place order that currently stands in lewiston remains owns a vehicle which was a vehicle of interest in this incident. It was located in lisbon and we are now also asking residents in usbon now also asking residents in lisbon to shelter in place. Lisbon to shelter in place. The Prime Minister has warned that Artificial Intelligence poses a risk of Human Extinction on the same scale as Global Pandemics and nuclear war. His comments come after touring moorfield eye hospital, which uses ai moorfield eye hospital, which uses al to diagnose blindness and eventually predict heart attacks. Strokes and parkinsons. Speaking at the Royal Society in london, rishi sunak said humanity could lose control of ai and terrorist groups could use it to spread fear and destruction. He also announced the formation of the worlds first Ai Safety Institute here in the uk to explore the risks and share the data with the world. Get this wrong , data with the world. Get this wrong, an ai could make it easier to build chemical or biological weapons as terrorist groups could use ai or biological weapons as terrorist groups could use al to spread fear and destruction on an even greater scale. Criminals could exploit ai for cyber attacks, disinformation , action attacks, disinformation, action fraud or even child sexual abuse. And in the most unlikely but extreme cases , there is even but extreme cases, there is even the risk that humanity could lose control of ai completely through the kind of ai sometimes referred to as superintelligence i the number of cars built in the uk has increased by almost 40. Last month, the society of Motor Manufacturers and traders says more than 88,000 vehicles left uk factories. Thats 25,000 left uk factories. Thats 25,000 more than september last year. More than september last year. Exports also increased by a third, with almost 6 in 10 cars to going the eu. The north east to going the eu. The north east of scotland faces more heavy rain as the clean up continues following storm babet, the met office has issued another yellow weather warning for places including aberdeen and dundee. Thats in effect from midday today until 12 pm. On saturday. Many areas experienced prolonged downpours and flooding last week. However, river levels are not forecast to be as high as before. Remembrance poppies will be plastic free this year and recyclable. Their first redesign in a generation. Its part of in a generation. Its part of a move by the Royal British legion to reduce the use of Single Use Plastics from today, volunteers and supermarkets will be selling the historic symbol, which is seen as a show of solidarity towards the armed forces community. Each poppy sold raises money to support veterans and serving personnel. We asked people in liverpool to give us their thoughts. Sevilla probably doesnt raise enough money than what it should. Maybe its not the forefront of peoples minds in todays economic problems and things. But yeah , definitely things. But yeah, definitely worthwhile. Of course. Of course. A supporter. Ill be wearing my poppy. A supporter. Ill be wearing my pppy |. A supporter. Ill be wearing my poppy. I think its very important to remember our ancestors. And everyone who ancestors. And everyone who fought for us, and thats a nice way of remembering it. I think its great. I think its wonderful way to raise money for all the veterans here in england and i wish we would do more on november 11th in the states. This is gb news in the states. This is gb news across the uk on tv, in your car, on Digital Radio, and on your Smart Speaker by saying play gb news now lets get back to martin and. Bev to martin and. Bev good morning. Welcome back. Good morning. Welcome back. 1106 were flying over this. Lets see what youve been saying at home. Weve loads saying at home. Weve got loads of coming in, particularly of views coming in, particularly anything. Martin we do you going particularly values particularly is British Values and integration. We talked earlier multi cultures earlier about has multi cultures and a failure. 30 of you and been a failure. 30 of you think that it integration hasnt been going on that well. What have people been saying, beth well, carol said, i believe that British Values include the monarchy, christianity and history. Its important we dont lose sight of this as we become a more multi cultural country. And jane says, i think yeah, and jane says, i think its to great be multicultural, but if it works you but only if it works when you cant speak to your neighbour because speak because they dont even speak english, then something is definitely not right. Peter said, those who and peter said, those who wish to integrate are more than welcome come here, but dont welcome to come here, but dont tell us to do or how to tell us what to do or how to live lives. You have to live our lives. You have to accept values. And lawrence accept our values. And lawrence says, emigrate. Says, integrate or emigrate. Its thing is, its that simple. The thing is, its the values. And actually, albee a great job earlier of albee did a great job earlier of explaining those are explaining what those values are about democracy and equality of opportunity being opportunity and women being treated as men, those treated the same as men, those sorts of things. And on the sorts of things. And on the trans debate , we had a fantastic trans debate, we had a fantastic debate because, again, only 30 of gb news viewers in a peoples poll thought that a trans woman as a biological man can be a woman. And john says this. Its pushed onto us all the time. But im sorry if a bloke wears a dress, hes still a bloke. Common sense , to the point, sue common sense, to the point, sue has said. I find this transgender stuff ridiculous. A man can dress up however he likes, but hell always be man. That is how always be a man. That is how science works. We saw rishi science works. And we saw rishi sunak morning delivering a sunak this morning delivering a very, very, very long speech on Artificial Intelligence and the role uk will play in role that the uk will play in terms of future industry. Terms of that future industry. And graham we shouldnt and graham says we shouldnt worry about destroying worry about al destroying mankind, us humans are doing a very good job of that already. Always look on the bright side. Bleak. Okay, moving on now. So crisis talks deepen for the labour party as sir keir starmer met muslim over the starmer met muslim mps over the partys stance on the israel gaza war yesterday. Gaza war yesterday. This comes as hundreds of labour muslim councillors have written party written to him urging the Party Leadership call for an leadership to call for an immediate the immediate ceasefire in the region. Region. Well, joining us now is gb news presenter. All Arlene Foster pleasure to foster is always a pleasure to have the show. Arlene have you on the show. Arlene well, another day, another u turn by sir keir starmer and is there any wonder when you look at the number leaders orline 3. 9 million muslims in the uk, 6. 5 of the population, 78 of british muslims voted for the labour party at the last general election. Starmer is pandenng general election. Starmer is pandering to votes, isnt he . Pandering to votes, isnt he . Well, i think all politicians need to pander to vote. Need to pander to vote. Lets not make any mistake about that. But i very much welcome the fact that he gave clarity after that horrendous terrorist attack by hamas on the 7th of october, where he didnt try to contextualise it. He just called it out as a terrorist attack. And i think a lot of people really welcomed that. But since then, there has been a growing pressure. Unsurprisingly given the fact that we have Jeremy Corbyn sitting on the back benches. Yes, hes no longer a labour mp but has a lot of friends in the Labour Movement still and that hang over as i think one of your other guests referred to it as the Jeremy Corbyn hangover is still very much there and theres still a lot of people who would have a lot more sympathy for palestinians than they do for the israeli state. And therefore, this is an now becoming very clear when we have that meeting last evening, the pressure being put on keir starmer to be different from the Prime Minister and to try and look as if hes been more supportive of the palestinians than he is of israel and shouldnt be a competition. Lets be very clear about this. We should have clarity around what has happened in israel, what has happened in israel, what has happened in israel, what has happened in the gaza strip , and then move on from strip, and then move on from that. And tim davie , i want to ask and tim davie, i want to ask you about arlene on this issue. Obviously, he had to face the 1922 committee about this and defend the bbcs policy of not calling hamas a terrorist group. What did you make of i dont know if youve had time to digest what happened yesterday , digest what happened yesterday, but how do you think the bbc are faring in this particular issue at the moment . I cannot for the life of me understand why they are digging in on this issue because it is a proscribed organisation in law. It is a terrorist organisation under the terrorism act 2000 and therefore i cannot understand why theyve decided it quote unquote. They cant take sides. Unquote. They cant take sides. Nobodys asking them to take sides. Were asking them to report factually what has happened and hamas is a terrorist organisation in law in the United Kingdom , so why cant the United Kingdom, so why cant they just report that . They just report that . And arlene, what do you make of this 250 muslim councillors now part of the Labour Muslim Network folk have written to sir keir starmer demanding a ceasefire , demanding a change of ceasefire, demanding a change of position. I was going through some of the constituencies earlier. Arlene rochdale. Rotherham well known of course, for their grooming gangs. Brent out six councillors from their the biggest population of jews in britain and kirklees six councillors there that of course was home to the Batley Grammar School teacher. Not a peep out of any of these councillors about issues that actually affected their constituents. Why are these councils so obsessed with gaza. With gaza. You know, this is going to be a very tricky issue for sir keir starmer. He is now at a point where he has to decide is he going to move away from his very clear position and then look as if hes weak as you said in the introduction, is there going to be another u turn . Because that will show him as a weak leader and as being captured and show him as being captured by those on the backbenches and indeed councillors and indeed by his councillors and members . Or is he going give members . Or is he going to give the needed . We the clarity that is needed . We had very interesting had some very interesting debates house of lords debates in the house of lords this week on israel and gaza and in credibly around proportionality and how proportionality and how proportionality works in International Law and people are using phrases that actually they dont fully understand and i think its really important that when we talk about israels right to defend themselves and to use proportionate actions, that people understand that if there was a ceasefire, the only people that that benefits is actually hamas. And so i think that the Prime Minister was calling for a pause to allow humanitarian aid, to allow the hostages to come fonnard is a very sensible way fonnard. But a very sensible way fonnard. But a ceasefire allows hamas to regroup and it will cause damage, more damage to the israeli state. And i just think , israeli state. And i just think, why would they do that . Thats giving away the right to defend themselves. And therefore, themselves. And therefore, people need to be very clear that what we have to say about israel is something that is based on International Law, not what people think. International law says. Law actually says. And ltn its fair to say the conservative party have had their problems. Albums, of course, in the past, accusations of even amongst of islam phobia even amongst bons of islam phobia even amongst boris johnson, the Prime Minister at the time. But its certainly a hugely divisive issue. How important do you think the muslim vote is going to be at the next general election . Election . Well, i dont think its right to see the muslim vote as homogeneous, because i think theres a lot of muslims who are outraged by hamas because they dont want to be seen to be supporters of hamas, rightly so. Its a bit like in Northern Ireland when the ira were murdering people, the Catholic Community did not want to be seen as supporters of the ira. And therefore i think its wrong for to just look at the for us to just look at the Muslim Community as one bloc. I think genuinely, think there are very genuinely, as all are concerned, about as we all are concerned, about innocent Palestinian People who are being used by hamas as human shields and are suffering greatly in that region. Therefore, i do think that its important that we make the differentiation between hamas and the Palestinian People. I and the Palestinian People. I think thats really important. Think thats really important. Arlene, i just want to ask you, as somebody that has such experience of politics and policy, but also as a mother, were waking up this morning to news of another shooting in america , in maine, the gunman is america, in maine, the gunman is still on the run. Apparently he at what point does america start to admit that there is a problem now with gun crime and perhaps do something about it . Well , were long past the well, were long past the point where they should have admitted they have a problem with gun crime. I mean, every atrocity that happens in america, we have this discussion, but we move discussion, but we never move on from assert their from it. And people assert their rights under the constitution. Rights under the constitution. Others say that they want to deal with it and then they move on and another atrocity happens. On and another atrocity happens. There is a real need for americans. America are always very quick to tell other countries how to deal with issues they have an issue and they need to deal with it. And im sure that there will be plenty reflecting on that today after that atrocity in maine. After that atrocity in maine. Absolutely. All right, arlene, always good to see you. Arlene, always good to see you. Arlene foster there reflecting on of this mass on the news of this mass shooting in america. Another shooting in america. Another another one. Yeah, its an endless debate about gun control, isnt it . Right. Getting on people in wales need to limit their speed to 20 mile an hour and built up areas such as villages and towns centres. But our peoples poll has revealed that 70 of you do not support reducing speed limits in built up areas. So is it all a waste of time . Well, joining us now to discuss this is criminal lawyer and road safety campaigner nick freeman. So, nick, a resounding 70 of people polled for gb news said they want to put the brakes on this. What they see as a war on motorists. Where do you stand . Well, i think there should be a reduced speed limit in certain circumstances. A dynamic speed limit. I mean, the situation in wales is really quite ridiculous. Youre really quite ridiculous. Youre three times more likely to be killed on a rural road and most of the roads in wales are rural. Of the roads in wales are rural. So whats interesting in wales is, first of all, there was a poll before the speed limit was introduced and the vast majority of people were in favour of it and theyve now done about turn because they done an about turn because they realise actually it doesnt make a sense in most cases. A lot of sense in most cases. So my view is, you know, school round, school times opening times, closing times, there a temporary there should be a temporary limit in any other sensitive areas you have a dynamic limit, but the rest of the time you revert back to the 30 mile an hour default limit. That makes sense. I hour default limit. That makes sense. I mean, there are so many problems. I mean, first of all, its going to cost the welsh economy about £45 billion per year. Thats estimate that you thats the estimate that you hear , of course, people who hear, of course, that people who live wales who are benefiting live in wales who are benefiting from this are the residents. From this are the residents. But from a Mental Health perspective course the perspective of but of course the drivers suffering terribly drivers are suffering terribly with issues. With Mental Health issues. Youre a taxi driver at 3 00 in the morning on a deserted road. Youre trying to earn your living and youre to sit living and youre having to sit at an it just at 20 miles an hour. Itjust makes and from a from makes no sense. And from a from an environmentally Friendly Point its completely point of view, its completely neutral. There research neutral. There was some Research Done by London University imperial college. Says it imperial college. It says it makes difference. So we just makes no difference. So we just need to be proportionate and sensible. And i think most drivers and most most people in wales have cars. Most most adults in wales have cars they drive. And it just doesnt seem drive. And it just doesnt seem to be sensible. And when you try to be sensible. And when you try and enforce something that motorists dont think is sensible , theyre not really sensible, theyre not really readily going to comply with it, particularly in the context most of our society, you know , of our society, you know, unfortunately, burglary is on the increase. And what happens when you get burgled, you get an officer who may or may not come to your house. You may or may not criminal crime not get a criminal crime reference number. And thats about it. So were living in whats perceived as a largely decriminalised society. But if decriminalised society. But if you just exceed the speed limit in wales, which is now artificially low, youre going to be done. Another interesting point, and its a slightly sort of contradictory point within point, within the welsh system is they they allow, as a general rule , a tolerance zone of 10 rule, a tolerance zone of 10 plus two. So that means if youre travelling at on a motonnay, you will not be prosecuted until you reach 80 miles an hour. In england , that miles an hour. In england, that tolerance zone is 10 plus one. But what the Welsh Government have said or what the Police Officer has said is theyre not going to enforce this speed limit in wales. It its a sorry, i beg your pardon. In england i beg your pardon. In england its 10 plus one. In wales its 10 plus two. But in wales theyre actually being given an extra four miles an hour as a tolerance zone. So in fact, in these 20 mile an hour limits at these 20 mile an hour limits at the moment, you will not be prosecuted unless youre travelling at 27mph, which does beg the question, what is the point . You know, i can understand the police saying to people initially, look , you need people initially, look, you need to be aware theres been a lot of publicity about it. You need to be that there is this to be aware that there is this speed but if youre going speed limit. But if youre going to introduce into law, then to introduce it into law, then then make count. To introduce it into law, then then make count. You then make it make it count. You know, you you have to walk the talk and talk the talk. You dont just say this is what were going to do and then actually way of actually find a way of increasing it to almost 30 miles an makes no sense. And an hour. It makes no sense. And no temporary gesture. No a temporary gesture. If i may if i no a temporary gesture. If i may ifi may no a temporary gesture. If i may if i may interject, nick. Well, i think the point is this drake scheme costs £33 million to introduce, but hes reckoned to make £9 billion in in fines. I reckoned to make £9 billion in in fines. I put it to you, this isnt about salvation. Its about taxation. Well, thats how the motorist sees it. The motorist actually sees it. The motorist actually sees this as a war on motorists and you know, whether or not hes right in relation to that figure, the net cost to the economy apparently is £45 billion. And i dont hear him talking about that. So whilst there might be a revenue from fines , there is also going to be fines, there is also going to be a huge cost to the economy and only time will tell, you know, who is the benefit. But obviously there are two motivations. One is road safety, but road safety has to be sensible. And in my view, this is a misconceived attitude to road safety. And the other and the other approach, of course, is it has to make sense. And you know, weve got weve got quite rightly more cyclists on the road. E scooters on the road. We dont want motorists to be obsess with looking at their speedometer for the excuse of being aware of what is going on around them. We dont want motorists, people sitting in cars being overtaken by cyclists and being overtaken by e scooters. It just doesnt make sense from anyone who is sensible perspective. So we just need to say, look, we all want the roads to be safer. Lets introduce a temporary speed limit, whether it be 20 or 25 miles an hour when schools are opening, when theyre going home. And lets see how that works. And that would have the support public. Yeah. And support of the public. Yeah. And weve got to move on, nick. But there are other countries , arent they, which have different speed limits at different speed limits at different times of the day. So if youre on a desert road at 3 00 in the morning, you can you can drive a bit more quickly as a taxi driver getting home or a hospital worker. Then at 9 00. Well, absolutely. And its not limits that those not just speed limits that those countries operate, flexibility, traffic lights as well. So in the france, for the evenings in france, for example, have the traffic example, youll have the traffic lights constantly lights that are just constantly flashing, your flashing, which means use your common care and common sense, exercise care and caution and come through when its sensible. The authorities need to trust the driver. There need to trust the driver. There are only a few idiots on the road and most drivers will drive sensibly using their experience and judgement. Sensibly using their experience and judgement. Absolutely. We sensibly using their experience and jito;ement. Absolutely. We sensibly using their experience and tho gorent. Absolutely. We sensibly using their experience and th0 go back absolutely. We sensibly using their experience and th0 go back to nsolutely. We sensibly using their experience and th0 go back to thattely. We sensibly using their experience and th0 go back to that position need to go back to that position where the driver is trusted and not penalised. Not penalised. Thank you so much. Always good to see you. Criminal lawyer and road campaigner nick and road safety campaigner nick freeman isnt that the truth . Trust us, were not idiots. Trust us, were not idiots. Its beautiful. Right . Still to come, is it time change the gun in time to change the gun laws in america after manhunt is america after a manhunt is currently undennay in maine and europe . Currently undennay in maine and eupbritains newsroom on. Gb news radio. Welcome back. Its 1126. Youre with britains newsroom on gb news with myself, Martin Daubney and bev turner. So we woke up this morning to the news that at least 16, i think its about 22 now, people are feared to have been killed in shootings in lewiston, in maine, in america. Now the police have named robert as a person of robert codd as a person of interest, saying he is still armed dangerous. Armed and dangerous. The gunman thats right. The gunman remains large , but hundreds remains at large, but hundreds of officers across state are of officers across the state are involved manhunt. With involved in the manhunt. With such chaos in mind, is it time to rethink us gun laws . Well, lets now to the chair of lets speak now to the chair of the republicans overseas, greg swenson. Good morning, greg. Good morning, greg. Tell us, what is it like as an american when you wake up again to news of another mass shooting of innocent young people . Just do you feel a sense of devasted nafion you feel a sense of devasted nation . Nafion . Well, of course i do. Yeah well, of course i do. Yeah i mean, obviously, we have a serious Mental Health problem here. When you see shootings like this, its absolutely tragic. So between , you know, tragic. So between, you know, between the Mental Health challenges and the fact that this person apparently is really well trained. And so im im really worried about the fact that they havent caught him yet. This is not someone just picked up a gun at a gun show and started shooting people. This is a well trained you this this is a well trained you know, hes an army veteran. And so you can see in the way he handles the weapon. If youve seen any of the clips from lewiston. So thats its really worrisome that someone whos whos so well trained at handung whos so well trained at handling weapons is still on the loose. And greg, inevitably , in the and greg, inevitably, in the aftermath of another tragedy like this, there will be calls for greater gun control. Weve heard it many , many times over heard it many, many times over the years, particularly from the democrat side of american politics. Do you think gun control is the answer or are other things on the table we should look at instead . Yeah, its not gun control. I mean, if you look at the statistics, you know, 58 of mass public shootings are done with handguns. First of all, only 14 are done with rifles. So all these calls for banning rifles, that doesnt make any sense. We have a Mental Health problem here. Not a gun control problem. And whenever they have made the gun laws more strict or made the gun laws more strict or made it more difficult, it doesnt change the outcomes. Doesnt change the outcomes. Its a Mental Health issue. Its a crime issue. 22 people is tragic. Thats a thats a weekend in the summer in chicago, by the way. So we have a Law Enforcement problem that the prosecutors or the soros backed prosecutors are not prosecuting crimes. And so you have for example, in the Michigan State shootings a few months ago, that was a shooter who was not prosecuted for a felony for a gun crime. So, felony for a gun crime. So, martin and bev, the issue is we have to prosecute crimes. And if have to prosecute crimes. And if and you have to enforce the gun laws that are on the books and thats not happening, i guess what we could say is, well, we have a Mental Health crisis in this country as well, but we dont have Mass Shootings because we dont have so many guns. Is it just a guns. Is itjust a case guns. Is it just a case of saying that in 2023, america has to just give up on the idea of ever taking back guns from from ordinary human citizens who dont need them for any genuine reason . Yeah i mean, i think thats a challenge only because its, you know, its protected by the second amendment, of course. But 99. 9 of gun owners dont violate the law. They dont shoot people. So what i think we have to remember is , you know, have to remember is, you know, lets not penalise people for something that they, you know, for a crime that they dont commit. And thats i know thats its hard to understand in in europe because its part of the culture in america. But look at switzerland for example. They they have very, very loose gun laws. And very high gun ownership. Same with south ownership. Same with south africa. And yet they dont have the Mass Shootings. So, again, the Mass Shootings. So, again, i think we have to look at the Mental Health issues and the fact that gun laws are not being prosecuted in in america. And thats really whats crazy. You know why why make more gun restrictions if theyre not going to be prosecuted in new york and chicago, prosecutors dont actually prosecute gun gun crimes or enforce gun laws. All right. All right. Head of the republicans overseas, greg swensen, thank you for your perspective. Greg just just to let you know about this, about 22 people have been shot dead. This is in maine. 60 people are injured different injured at two different locations. A bowling locations. It was a Bowling Alley the are alley and a bar. The police are looking person of interest looking for a person of interest , 40 Year Old Army reservist , a 40 Year Old Army reservist and a firearms instructor who is still on the loose. We will have any news on that as we get it. Yeah. Still to come, should we teach children about White Privilege . Well, of course, the bbc seems to think so. And also the de banking row continue. Farage has called for continue. Farage has called for natwest to slash the £10 million. Thats right. Exit fee of its former boss, dame alison rose, after she was found to have broken Data Protection laws by discussing his Bank Accounts with a journalist. That and much more after your mornings news with. Ray js guys. With. Ray js guys. 1132. Our top stories as the government has held an emergency cobra meeting on the escalating crisis in the middle east, this after the Prime Minister called for a pause in the war between israel and hamas for humanitarian reasons , but humanitarian reasons, but rejected pleas for a ceasefire. The Cabinet Meeting , chaired by the Cabinet Meeting, chaired by the deputy pm also addressed the governments strategy to help free british hostages who are among more than 220 being held and well. Meanwhile, israel launched its biggest incursion into gaza overnight with tanks temporarily entering the strip, paving the way for the next stages of combat. The israel stages of combat. The israel Defence Forces say fighter jets also hit over 250 hamas targets , also hit over 250 hamas targets, including infrastructure and tunnels shafts. A fresh wave of rockets were also fired from the territory towards southern israel. This morning. In the us, israel. This morning. In the us, hundreds of Police Officers are hunting for a gunman after up to 22 people were killed and dozens injured. In maine, police named 40 year old robert cod as a person of interest, saying hes armed and dangerous. The shootings took place in at least two locations, a restaurant and a Bowling Alley in the city of lewiston on. The Prime Minister has warned that Artificial Intelligence poses a risk of Human Extinction on the same scale as Global Pandemics and nuclear war. His comments come after touring Moorfields Eye Hospital , which uses ai after touring Moorfields Eye Hospital , which uses al to hospital, which uses al to diagnose blindness. Speaking at the Royal Society in london, rishi sunak announced the formation of in the uk of the worlds first Ai Safety Institute to explore the risks and share the data with the world. You can get more on all of those stories on our website , of those stories on our website, gb news. Com of those stories on our website, gbnews. Com. For exclusive gb news. Com. For exclusive limited gbnews. Com. For exclusive limited edition and rare gold coins that are always newsworthy. Rosalind gold proudly sponsors the gb news financial report. Report. Back to martin and bevin just a moment. But first, a quick look at the finance. The quick look at the finance. The pound will buy you 1. 2090 and ,1. 1462. The price of gold. £1,647. 31 per ounce, and the ftse 100 is at 7369 points. Rosalind gold proudly sponsors the gb news financial report. Report. Still to come this morning, should we be teaching children about White Privilege . Well the bbc seems to think so. Theyve been criticised for a newsround article that explains White Privilege to kids. Could you explain it to kids . Explain it to kids . I could, but i would choose not to because i think its a fabricated load of nonsense. Thats my opinion. Well find out story is after the out what the story is after the break. This is britains newsroom on weeknights from. Six weeknights from. Six welcome back. Its 1138 yours, britains newsroom on gb news with Martin Daubney and bev turner. So the poppy appeal starts today. The money is used to support veterans and their families and many veterans support. Charities say money is running out, putting thousands of veterans at risk of employment and even homelessness. Gb news will hollis has met mel bensley , a british army mel bensley, a british army veteran, to hear her story. Well, this is me on one of the proudest days of my life. This is me in my number twos with my forage cap. On the day with my forage cap. On the day i actually passed out a soldier at just 17, mel bensley from nottingham served for queen and country after 91 when we were all amalgamated into one army, i came out as the royal signals, the medal. Theyre actually explains that i served in Northern Ireland during the conflicts in 1989 and 1990. It was my first posting and i was still only 18 when i first went out there. It was decades later dunng out there. It was decades later during lockdown that the trauma she had buried resurfaced and at its worst point, i got up crying and i went to sleep crying. And i went to sleep crying. Mel turned to alcohol to cope with the ptsd , losing her job, with the ptsd, losing her job, running the local pub and her home with it. Home with it. I didnt know what to do with myself and became very lonely, very scared, and started closing down. And the only thing i knew what to do was to reach for alcohol, to make me feel human again is the best way of describing it. It gave it made me feel something. Its estimated that around 4000 veterans are homeless with many living in hostels, but hundreds on the streets. The government is pledging to end homelessness amongst veterans by next year, reinforce forced by an 8. 5 million fund named op fortitude , critics say theyll fortitude, critics say theyll miss the target. The british legions poppy appeal raises cash to help veterans and their families like most places, homelessness is increasing in nottingham by at least 50 this yean nottingham by at least 50 this year. The Charity Framework is trying to plug the gaps. Andrew is chief exec. Well, we have a National Housing shortage and thats exacerbated by a cost of living crisis and it means that people, for instance, who we are trying to resettle with private landlords , simply cant afford landlords, simply cant afford the rents. The rents. I melanie ducker swear by almighty god that i will be faithful and bear allegiance to her majesty queen elizabeth. The second meals now in recovery and has a home again through framework. Framework. Her experiences while serving took a lot from her, but still shes giving back to her armed forces family. Forces family. I still am and always have been very proud of the fact that i was able to serve my queen and country, and until the age of 55, i am still actually a registered reservist. At so registered reservist. At so i could get called up if things go wrong. Wrong. Will hollis gb news in nottingham . Nottingham . Well, were pleased to be joined again now by Political Editor of the daily express, sam lister, and journalism broadcaster Carole Malone to discuss this. Lets start with that that package there. Carole, i know we were getting quite emotional during that. We were really you to about really get you to think about where this countrys priorities lie. Could spend £8 million a lie. We could spend £8 million a day on hotels for Asylum Seekers, but people like that are left marooned, you know. Martin, i think people of my age for sure and probably all of our ages, it matters to us because were not that far removed. We still you know, we still know people who are in the war. We still have relatives who were affected by the war. A lot of people that dont of young people that i dont think understand concept of think understand the concept of war, read it, they war, they read about it, they hear but they dont hear about it, but they dont know what what it means. And they dont understand the casualties war. And thats casualties of war. And thats why have keep on why i think we have to keep on pushing poppy thing the pushing this poppy thing the whole its really whole time, because its really important as much important that we raise as much money can. Mel, you look money as we can. Mel, you look at her, you know, proud serve at her, you know, proud to serve her and country. Yet her queen and country. And yet because she now lives because of that, she now lives a very reduced life. And thats not meant to be insulting to her. Not meant to be insulting to hen she not meant to be insulting to her. She cant the things her. But she cant do the things the rest of she like the rest of us do. She like a lot of ex military people, she turned to drink. She suffered from depression. And although there around to there is some money around to help theres never help with that, theres never enough serve enough because people who serve and people who death and and people who see death and destruction, it changes them. Does what . What do yeah. Sam does what . What do you make of it when you see that . Because it is just so heartbreaking. It is a its a real stain on on us as a culture that we dont look after our veterans better. It is. And obviously at this time of year, we do we do think about veterans more, but generally, you know, the rest of the were not constantly the year, were not constantly thinking are thinking about these issues, are we . Say the government we . I would say the government has made some has actually made some quite significant towards significant strides towards helping the last helping veterans over the last ten years. An armed ten years. Theres an Armed Forces Covenant gives forces covenant that gives veterans certain rights. Theres a being done to help a lot of work being done to help veterans find work after they leave the service. But on the whole, it is very difficult to make that transition back into civilian life. We know that and we know that lot of veterans we know that a lot of veterans do end up in prison. Theres a lot of work being done by mps actually find out exactly how actually to find out exactly how many veterans end up in prison. But is it often to do with drink and drugs and that transition from army life to civilian life . From army life to civilian life . And you know what i was thinking when i was watching that tell that lady about White Privilege, to privilege, which moves us on to our next actually, which our next story, actually, which is , you know, its what was is, you know, its what was occurring me when you think occurring to me when you think about bbc about White Privilege. Bbc newsround show im sure newsround a show that im sure were familiar with, all were all familiar with, all part of our childhoods. Bbc newsround piece newsround website has a piece that is telling kids that basically is telling kids carol isnt it, that that white children have what they describe as White Privilege and that they should use this for good . What do they mean . You know what . This is so insulting to the majority of the british population, which is white. And to tell them that theyre privileged by virtue of the colour of their skin, as you say, you tell that to mel, tell that people who are homeless. That to people who are homeless. Tell that to whole range of tell that to a whole range of people. The thing is, this is a theory. Have been accused of theory. Bbc have been accused of this recently they were this recently when they were putting teachers putting out teachers on their website about trans and website talking about trans and telling kids that there are 100 different genders and you can be a star if you want to be. I mean, its nonsense. And theyre pushing this ideology, this pushing this this ideology, this theory and they had to, in the end, pull it off because parents were going berserk. Here they go again, putting this up, this this that there is a this theory that there is such a thing White Privilege. This thing as White Privilege. This is fact. This is this is a is not a fact. This is this is a theory. And theyre putting it down fact. And you know, and down as fact. And you know, and it really is. And theyre endorsing as well. Endorsing it as fact as well. And not their place to and that is not their place to do the bbc is fast do that. The bbc is fast becoming it doesnt represent it. Its the state it. You know, its the state broadcaster, not broadcaster, but it is not representative the majority representative of the majority of its worth of the state anymore. Its worth pointing sam, that in this pointing out, sam, that in this piece, a black studies professor called kehinde andrews, whos a regular television , hes best regular on television, hes best known saying that the known for saying that the british was worse than British Empire was worse than the is really the point here, sam, is , is all these people sam, is, is all these people should they be allowed to be educating our children with this divisive nonsense . Divisive nonsense . Well, i think its not really for us or anyone to stop the professor having his point of view. What what the issue is, is it the bbcs role to promote things in this way . Its quite legitimate for the bbc to report on different points of view, but it isnt legitimate is for it to prevent present something as scientific fact when it clearly isnt. Its a theory and it needs to be very clear about that. It is. And the irony im sorry, the irony of the bbc saying they wont call Hamas Terrorists because they need to be objective and they like to be impartial. Not an impartial. This is not an impartial. This is not an impartial article. You know, it saysin impartial article. You know, it says in here the youth focussed White Privilege. What is it . How can it be used to help others . It talks about and it gives kids advice. How can it talks about and it gives kids advice. How can i it talks about and it gives kids advice. How can i use my white advice. How can i use my White Privilege to help others . And its not to say that life cannot be harder black people of be harder for black people of course it means that racism of course, exists. Course, racism exists. Were idiots think it doesnt idiots to think that it doesnt exist. But that doesnt mean that you teach children because the black kids then read the black kids will then read this go, its fair this and go, well, its not fair because youre lying. Thats because youre lying. Thats happening. Me. Happening. Believe me. Believe their own press. And believe their own press. And they believe that white kids are privileged working class privileged, White Working Class kids bottom of education kids at the bottom of education and have been for over 25 years in the uk. When does their privilege kick in . You know, this this causes division where there shouldnt be any you know, there shouldnt be any you know, there we all we all there you know, we all we all know that certain know that in certain communities, know , black communities, you know, black people disadvantaged , people people are disadvantaged, people of colour are disadvantaged. Of colour are disadvantaged. Whereas, you know, but just this this to me impugns White British people. I think , which british people. I think, which account for about 82 of the population just by assuming what all racist for a start and to assume were all better off. Its just not the case. And kids cant be taught this as fact as sam says. Yeah. Equality. The word equality is just disappeared. Its now all about one person has to be privileged than has to be more privileged than the lets talk about the other. Sam, lets talk about our nigel farage. Our very own nigel farage. Obviously profile case obviously high profile case situation where he was debunked by natwest. Alison rose is set for a possible i mean, £10 million exit pay. I mean, its lovely, great work if you can get it. I mean, i think if anybody does have White Privilege, its possibly her. I mean , in what possibly her. I mean, in what world does somebody commit egregious breaches of the rules and then have a £10 million pay off . I think its quite a stark contrast between what happens when bosses mess up and could you imagine if somebody behind a you imagine if somebody behind a you know , desk in a bank were to you know, desk in a bank were to pass on this kind of information . Yeah, they would theyd have been drummed out. Theyd have been drummed out. Theyd have been drummed out. Theyd have been drummed out. Theyd have been drummed out. They would not been drummed out. They would not be paid off in any way, be being paid off in any way, shape certainly not shape or form, and certainly not to tune of £10 million. To the tune of £10 million. Thats farage saying thats right. Farage saying that presided over a that dame alison presided over a squalid culture, dragged natwest through mud and should through the mud and they should not failings with not reward her failings with this massive sum of money. Its true. Its the information commissioner. Its called the i c o information commissioner. Its called the i c 0 rule that she had committed two breaches of the Data Protection act, clear two clear breaches and yet the bankis two clear breaches and yet the bank is meeting this week. Now to decide what her exit package will be. And theyre still not saying whether they will pay her this £10 million or not. Im betting they will. Im completely betting they will because who in because the guy who was in charge who didnt charge of the bank who didnt get sacked, he was a huge supporter and as sam supporter of hers. And as sam says, you know, and as for us, you cannot reward failure in this fashion. Know, this fashion. And, you know, lets not forget the public of the bank is owned. 38. 6 of this bankis the bank is owned. 38. 6 of this bank is still state owned and people will be furious. If i banked with natwest, i would leave them immediately because. Because if they go against what what the ico has said, that means they dont give a stuff about the rules and they dont give us stuff about their customers. And so if i was, if i was with natwest, id leave. Yeah. Yeah right. Lets leave on a slightly lighter note. Yes for anybody thats struggling , for anybody thats struggling, sam, to walk and look at sam, its not me. What has been. What has been invented. This isnt. Has been invented. This isnt. This isnt. Were not talking about people whove lost the ability to walk. Were not talking about people who are disabled. This is the right trousers. What are they, sam . Trousers. What are they, sam . Well xo leggings, which are. Well xo leggings, which are. Have you got a picture you want me to hold . Oh here we go, i believe. There we go. I mean, very attractive, arent they . Essentially they help you walk. And whats what really made me laugh about this is you can save up of your energy by up to 12 of your energy by donning pair of these trousers donning a pair of these trousers. Im not sure its worth it. Really. Im not sure its worth it. Rea12 because its saying its 12 because its saying its good for the elderly, but its also good if the rest of us are also good if the rest of us are a bit tired. I mean, its like i had an injury last year and i was walking on a crutch. These trousers would have been perfect. Yeah, thats right. The scientists have said they could help people walk help frail older people walk without of falling. But help frail older people walk with do of falling. But help frail older people walk with do go of falling. But help frail older people walk with do go on of falling. But help frail older people walk with do go on to falling. But help frail older people walk with do go on to say ng. But help frail older people walk with do go on to say whether they do go on to say whether they do go on to say whether they falling hasnt been they prevent falling hasnt been investigated theyre they prevent falling hasnt been invest to ited theyre they prevent falling hasnt been investto try theyre they prevent falling hasnt been investto try that theyre they prevent falling hasnt been investto try that on theyre they prevent falling hasnt been investto try that on olderre people. Theres a bit of theres a bit of a battery and i suppose youd have to master the battery. Othennise youd be like zooming down the street because the an electric the thing is like an electric bike. On it. If they bike. But im on for it. If they want to test it, im want anyone to test it, im here. You see, part of me thought they might this might have Andrew Pierce written all over it. Think so. It wouldnt be it. I think so. It wouldnt be able them he able to turn them on. He wouldnt know how to work it, especially if hed had a vodka or two. Well, i was about to say that theyd come handy my theyd have come in handy on my all holiday week. All inclusive holiday last week. Be honest, be and rhodes to be honest, be quite useful for like go to the bathroom. Just bathroom. m exactly. Lets just finish on tim davie as well. I want to cover this. Sam. He front cover this. Sam. He was in front of the committee yesterday of the 1922 committee yesterday to the to justify whether the bbc should. Bbc do not call should. Why the bbc do not call hamas he Hamas Terrorists. It didnt. He didnt enough, did didnt really go far enough, did he . It was a bit vague. He had a terrible time. Him over the they really hold him over the coals actually they coals and actually they were deeply to deeply unimpressed. One said to me aftennards that the whole point coming to address point of him coming to address conservative was he conservative mps was that he would it a would come out of it with a better reputation with them than he that certainly better reputation with them than he not that certainly better reputation with them than he not case. At certainly better reputation with them than he not case. Iatwentinly was not the case. It went down there wanted to me. There quite angry. Wanted to me. Theres great deal concern there quite angry. Wanted to me. Therethegreat deal concern there quite angry. Wanted to me. Therethe moralieal concern there quite angry. Wanted to me. There the moral decline oncern there quite angry. Wanted to me. There the moral decline of ern there quite angry. Wanted to me. There the moral decline of the about the moral decline of the bbc. They cannot get bbc. Yeah, and they cannot get their why he will their heads around why he will not tell reporters to call Hamas Terrorists government terrorists when the government has organisation has proscribed this organisation and the king uses the word so makes wonder if the story makes you wonder if the story about privilege this about White Privilege and this story we are linked is this kind of indicative of this greater mindset that white people commit all evil and we must almost side with terrorists . With terrorists . Yeah, well, i mean, the bbc definitely chose a side and theres another became obvious from their reports was from day one. Their reports was shocking. Remember that when the shocking. Remember that when the when bomb dropped when the bomb dropped on the hospital were hospital immediately they were putting out unconfirmed, unverified reports saying that it was it was an Israeli Attack. It wasnt an Israeli Attack at all. So the bbc have shown their colours in this. Theyve shown their and the stories their side and the stories emerging crying emerging that staff are crying over pictures coming out of gaza. But theyre not crying over pictures coming out of israel , which over pictures coming out of israel, which is over pictures coming out of israel , which is shocking to me. Israel, which is shocking to me. And they can do they and you know, they can do they could what they like if they could do what they like if they were independent and they paid their they cannot their own way. But they cannot as the state broadcaster, when part one of part of their charter, one of the whats the word the things that their charter is that they have impartial. Do what have to be impartial. Do what you like if youre paying your own way. But were paying you nearly year. Nearly £3 billion a year. You cant you have to be impartial. Maloney, sam lister, karen maloney, sam lister, were have leave it were going to have to leave it there. Excellent. As always. Thank you very much. Right up next, its the live desk with mark and tomson. Mark longhurst and pip tomson. On todays whats coming up on todays program, mark . Weve latest on well, weve got the latest on this Hundreds Police this manhunt. Hundreds of police in the us searching for this gunman whos killed up to 22. He. He started firing at a Bowling Alley packed with children. The firearms instructor only recently being told, released from a Mental Health centre. So well have the latest from the states on that. The breaking news were getting from our man in mark is that in tel aviv, mark white, is that rockets have targeted hamas or hamas rockets have targeted them in the few minutes, the in the last few minutes, the sirens sounding once again. So well have the latest from him as the Prime Minister says, Border Force Officials are now being stationed in egypt to help british nationals leave gaza. As the un says, nowhere in the besieged enclave is now safe. The governments been holding a cobra meeting in downing street. Well have reaction from that are also coming up, the threat of Artificial Intelligence. Its of Artificial Intelligence. Its a special safety summit scheduled for Bletchley Park, but just why are the chinese being invited there when, of course, they, too, have been identified as a source of Cyber Threats . And also, well be threats . And also, well be reflecting on a new look for our poppies, even though its the same age old message of remembrance. Charities to geanng remembrance. Charities to gearing up to help our serving Service Personnel, as well as remembering those who fallen. All that coming up at noon. Sounds brilliant, mark, thank you so much. Ive had a lovely time with you this week. Martin daubney, youre doing breakfast tomorrow morning, are early birds . Im till 930. Im on six till 930. Im on six till 930. Okay. And ill be back on monday with Andrew Pierce. Have a weekend. Britains a great weekend. 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For far north of scotland, for the far north of scotland, northern some gale northern isles, seeing some Gale Force Winds the morning force winds through the morning and early afternoon combined with its not with some heavy rain. Its not going very pleasant with some heavy rain. Its not goingthe very pleasant with some heavy rain. Its not goingthe rainfall pleasant with some heavy rain. Its not goingthe rainfall increasingly here. The rainfall increasingly mounting up across eastern scotland next few days. Scotland over the next few days. Not last week, but not as much as last week, but any additional rainfall, of course, cause further course, could cause further issues. Be some issues. Therell also be some persistent at for persistent rain at times for Eastern England and showers elsewhere interspersed by sunny spells. And it will feel a bit milder compared with yesterday, but a gusty wind will carry the showers across showers through across southwestern areas. Hail and thunder around coasts. Quite southwestern areas. Hail and tilively around coasts. Quite southwestern areas. Hail and tilively daand coasts. Quite southwestern areas. Hail and tilively day ofi coasts. Quite southwestern areas. Hail and tilively day of weather quite southwestern areas. Hail and tilively day of weather wherever a lively day of weather wherever you are into the evening. The showers continue and the longer spells of rain continue as well across central and eastern scotland , parts of eastern scotland, parts of Eastern England, lot of low cloud once england, a lot of low cloud once again, reforming some mist patches by dawn , but its patches by dawn, but its another mild start to the day tomorrow with temperatures in the double figures in places. Now friday is a day of two halves across the uk. Weve got a lot of stubborn cloud for scotland for northern and Eastern England. Some persistent rain at times , along with rain at times, along with a gusty breeze. Elsewhere, gusty breeze. Elsewhere, brighter skies, some sunny spells, but frequent and heavy showers coming through across Northern Ireland, wales, the southern half of england, temperatures reaching 15 celsius, a touch cooler compared with today good afternoon. It is midday and this is the live desk here on gb news. Coming up this thursday lunchtime. Lunchtime. Im a huge manhunt. Hundreds of us police in a desperate search for this man, an armed gunman who killed up to 22 after opening fire at a Bowling Alley packed with children. The firearm instructor only recently released a Mental Health released from a Mental Health centre. Centre. The Prime Minister says Border Force Officials are being positioned in egypt to help british nationals get out of gaza. British nationals get out of gaza. The idf carried out gaza. The idf carried out a targeted air raid overnight in northern gaza , as the un says, northern gaza, as the un says, nowhere in the besieged enclave is safe. Well be live with our is safe. Well be live with our security editor as rockets hit tel aviv in the last few minutes , the threat of Artificial Intelligence, a special safety summit scheduled for Bletchley Park. But just why the chinese is being invited by rishi sunak after they, too were identified as a source of Cyber Threats. As a source of Cyber Threats. Plus theres a new look for our poppies. But still, with the age old message of remembrance. As charities prepare for to help our serving Service Personnel as well as remember the fallen. Well as remember the fallen. First, heres your latest news headunes first, heres your latest News Headlines with ray addison. Headlines with ray addison. Good afternoon. 12 01, our top stories this hour. The government has held an emergency cobra