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Us know your thoughts this morning. Vaiews gbnews. Com is the as always. The email address as always. First, though, heres alison with. News for thanks. With your. News for thanks. Thanks, guys. Good morning. Its 931. Our top stories. Israel intensified airstrikes on gaza overnight, israel intensified airstrikes on gaza overnight , rejecting calls gaza overnight, rejecting calls for a ceasefire. The military says it targeted hamas infrastructure following one of the deadliest days for palestinians. There are growing concerns , signs that the concerns, signs that the conflict could spread across the region. This morning, the leaders of terrorist groups reportedly met to discuss the so called resistance axis against israel. Lebanons against israel. Lebanons hezbollah leader is said to have held talks with the head of hamas and Palestinian Islamic jihad. The United Nations warns jihad. The United Nations warns the crisis in gaza is deepening , the crisis in gaza is deepening, with more than a third of hospitals forced to close because of damage or a lack of fuel. Patients are fuel. Doctors say patients are showing signs of disease caused by overcrowding and poor sanitation. Often the un says it sanitation. Often the un says it may have had to may have to halt its operations there because fuel is running out. Its operations there because fuel is running out. Israel fuel is running out. Israel blocked its delivery to prevent hamas from seizing supplies. Hamas from seizing supplies. Well, the un secretary general, as weve been hearing, has reiterated calls for a ceasefire to allow the Safe Delivery of aid. Antonio guterres says hes concerned about what he called clear violations of humanitarian law. The Palestinian Red Crescent confirmed that eight trucks crossed the rafah border yesterday, but the un says dozens more are still waiting to enter from egypt. The Refugee Agency says its gaza shelters are full times over capacity, with nearly 600,000 internally displaced people seeking help. Displaced people seeking help. And mps are expected to vote later over whether peter bone should be suspended from the commons. Its after a Parliament Panel found the member for wellingborough committed acts of bullying and one act of Sexual Misconduct against a male staff member in 2012 and 2013. If the recommended six week suspension is approved , it could trigger is approved, it could trigger a recall petition and lead to a by election. Mr bone denies the allegations and has vowed to continue representing his constituents and parts of the uk devastated by floods are now facing a yellow fog warning. The facing a yellow fog warning. The met office says the difficult conditions could lead to disruption. The warning, which runs until 11 am, covers the east and north east of england. The midlands and north east wales. You can find more on all wales. You can find more on all those stories on our website, gb news. Com. Those stories on our website, gbnews. Com. Now lets get back to martin and beth. To martin and beth. Very good morning. Its 934 on wednesday. Now labour has attacked the tories for spending more than £800 per person per night to house Asylum Seekers on a barge. And this comes after almost a year after the Prime Minister promised to end costly asylum hotel use. But this doesnt sound that cheap to me. Well, if there is a cheaper alternative, the United Kingdom , alternative, the United Kingdom, were yet to hear it. Well, here to discuss this is columnist at the daily mail, sarah vine. Sarah, lovely to see you. Most people, everybody people, i think everybody listening just feel listening to this will just feel their boiling at the idea their blood boiling at the idea that were spending the equivalent on person of equivalent on each person of a suite the savoy, how it can suite at the savoy, how it can cost £800 and what are they spending on . This is spending that on . Well, this is there enough transparency spending that on . Well, this is theit. Enough transparency spending that on . Well, this is the it. Er be gh transparency spending that on . Well, this is theit. Erbe becausenarency spending that on . Well, this is theit. Erbe because irency spending that on . Well, this is theit. Erbe because i mean, on it. Would be because i mean, there must be some reason because its an awful lot of money. I the thing is, is the i mean, the thing is, is the government you just robert government you just had Robert Jenrick on earlier who i thought was good saying that hes was quite good saying that hes made mission to stop made it his mission to stop housing seekers housing Asylum Seekers in four star hotels. Think for star hotels. And i think for most people, a four star hotel is the is, you know, a treat for them. They think it as them. They think of it as something they might go something that they might go special anniversary or whatever. So idea were putting so the idea that were putting asylum star Asylum Seekers in four star hotels sort of thing hotels as a sort of normal thing is really annoying for most ordinary so thats ordinary taxpayers. So thats thats that the thats been something that the government has been addressing. And theyre paying and but then now theyre paying £800 a night. What is that cost . We to know. We do really. £800 a night. What is that cost . We its to know. We do really. £800 a night. What is that cost . We its to k pointing do really. £800 a night. What is that cost . We its to k pointing outeally. £800 a night. What is that cost . We its to k pointing out this. Its worth pointing out this is figures because you is labours figures because you cant get an foi on what it costs because ive tried. So thats a freedom information. Thats a freedom of information. Dont know when thats a freedom of information. Ask dont know when thats a freedom of information. Ask for dont know when thats a freedom of information. Ask for the dont know when thats a freedom of information. Ask for the facts. Know when thats a freedom of information. Ask for the facts behind vhen thats a freedom of information. Ask for the facts behind the| you ask for the facts behind the scenes that were being scenes that were not being given they tell us given and they wont tell us because found out the true because if we found out the true amount, i think people would be so would curtains amount, i think people would be so the would curtains amount, i think people would be so the conservatives. Curtains for the conservatives. I think the labour party so i think the labour party is in a bit of guesstimation, but i did look on the way in and £800 think weve got £800 and i, i think weve got a picture on screen here. This picture on the screen here. This is equivalent there it is. Is the equivalent there it is. Look, thats the king deluxe suite hotel on suite at the savoy hotel on mayfair. Thats what it costs to put somebody on the bibby stockholm. Know where id stockholm. I know where id rather the rather be. The fact of the matter surely this matter is, sarah, surely this points that its been points out that its been a catastrophic waste money. The catastrophic waste of money. The bibby is the only boat bibby stockholm is the only boat the managed stop. Well, whats well, i think whats interesting is think this interesting is i think this whole of Asylum Seekers whole housing of Asylum Seekers has an absolute sort of has been an absolute sort of cash cow for a lot of people. So, you remember so, for example, do you remember a while ago there was that Student Accommodation in huddersfield chucked huddersfield who chucked out all their they their students, even though they had deposits and had paid their deposits and stuff suddenly got stuff because they suddenly got a offer the home a better offer from the home office Asylum Seekers . Office to house Asylum Seekers . Theres here 14 of theres a guy here on page 14 of her majesty, his majestys daily mail, i should say, these days, who know, is making who has, you know, who is making what said . What was it you said . Well, he made £60 million in total, made £20 million total, but he made £20 million last year alone from caravan parks, is kind of kicked parks, which is kind of kicked out. Well, youre not allowed to book for holiday book there for a holiday anymore. Asylum seekers anymore. Instead, Asylum Seekers are going into his caravans, making a mint, you know, and weve situation where weve got a situation where people on Holiday People cant go on holiday because cant get because they cant get a conversation and the thing conversation and the whole thing is just. But its a gravy train. And in fact, the whole Asylum Seeker thing has become gravy train, thing has become a gravy train, not terms these not just in terms of these accommodate trains, but also in terms of all the lawyers that are involved. Mean, are involved. I mean, theres just much that is being just so much money that is being churned through this system. Sarah, that do you think, sarah, that that are politicians who that there are politicians who must making money out must be somehow making money out of this . No, they wont be making. No, no, they wont be making. Well, i not directly. No. Well, i mean, not directly. No. I mean, cant remember. I mean, i cant remember. Theyre do that, theyre not allowed to do that, but indirectly. But no, i mean, they cant. I mean, theres so much at stake here that much money at stake here that when this of taxpayers when this amount of taxpayers money swept into money is being swept into private i just cant help private funds, i just cant help but theres behind the but wonder if theres behind the scenes its scenes what it is. Its completely just completely its just inefficiency. And inefficiency. And its and it goes to the office, goes back to the home office, which think it was. David which i think it was. David blunkett who said not fit blunkett who said it was not fit for purpose. And that was a very long time ago. It is not a good department. Thing. Very, department. It runs thing. Very, very poorly, and very inefficient, poorly, and has so at you has always done so at and, you know, this a this is know, this is a this is a theres no Silver Bullet to this. Theres no one solution. Its its about its about its about incompetence civil incompetence in the Civil Service about incompetence service its about incompetence in all areas. Its about in all areas. And its about its about money, money, money just being thrown at a problem. Yeah. And no solution actually emerging. Theres another story in the times today. Apparently the home office paid £15 million for a former disused prison site. This is the hmp north eye in bexhill. That was bought last year for £6 million. So the government has lost £9 million of taxpayers money in a year. Isnt this down to the fact that the home office , if they were an ordinary business, theyd all be fired completely . I mean, exactly. Its run so i mean, exactly. Its run so inefficiently and its and its because, of course , for them, because, of course, for them, taxpayers money isnt real. Its like its like when you go to the airport and you buy loads of makeup, which is what i do because i think im at the airport. Therefore its not actually real money. Its like eating biscuits. They eating broken biscuits. They dont, they dont they dont think that its real money because its taxpayers and because its taxpayers money and therefore have be therefore they dont have to be accountable. And that is really, really and all really the problem here. And all of companies ramp their of these companies ramp their costs anything with costs up. Anything to do with government. They always they always get charged through the nose always get charged through the nos but why do they take is it but why do they take is it just that theres nobody accountable . Maybe if you work in the home office, the bottom line is are perhaps line is you are perhaps predisposed to welcome predisposed to want to welcome more migrants here. Maybe you feel this is the job of the home office to put up people who have had unfortunate experiences elsewhere. And therefore, theres kind feel like theres a kind of you feel like you moral right, but you you have a moral right, but you cant help thinking money. Cant help i mean, you cant help thinking if you are thinking that if you are a migrant and were living in migrant and you were living in calais you were thinking, calais and you were thinking, what am going do next . Then what am i going to do next . Then someone to well, if someone said to you, well, if you go to the uk, they put you in a nice forced four star hotel or in a you know, thats got to be an incentive for people. And thats so important to thats why its so important to stop this, because it will it will another layer of will take away another layer of incentive. Thing about incentive. But the thing about labour course, they know labour is, of course, they know that the can somehow that if the tories can somehow fix problem, that thats fix this problem, that thats going very well them going to play very well to them at general election. So its at the general election. So its not course labour would be not of course labour would be pushing, pushing and trying not of course labour would be pu undermine ing and trying not of course labour would be pu undermine their and trying not of course labour would be pu undermine their efforts. Trying to undermine their efforts. That point . Isnt that the point . Isnt that the point . Politics getting thats politics getting in the again, this feels like the way again, this feels like the way again, this feels like the Party Getting the conservative Party Getting into general election mode on perhaps issue theyve perhaps the only issue theyve got winning on got a chance of winning on another issue in the papers today, i want to draw your attention, hunt i there are red wall conservatives asking for him to get the chop because they think hes too timid. He wont give a tax cut. The tories should be the party of low tax. Yeah. I mean, is this a case now of a lot of conservatives worrying about their future, worrying about their future, worrying about jeremy about their seats and jeremy hunts in the way i think a lot of the problem i think the government rendered itself government has rendered itself very stealth very unpopular with the stealth taxes its been doing. Taxes that its been doing. Basically freezing you know, basically freezing the for taxation so the threshold for taxation so that more more people fall that more and more people fall into higher brackets tax into the higher brackets of tax and therefore more tax. And therefore they pay more tax. There some talk, a few days there was some talk, a few days ago that pensioners be ago that pensioners might be caught and its caught up in this, and its almost enormous act of almost its an enormous act of self harm by the tory party because the tory party is seen as party taxation an as the party of low taxation an and also of individual choice. The whole point about conservatism is that, you know, you make decisions yourself about about what you want to do with your money and what you want to do with your life. Youre not subscribing to a sort of labour esque nanny state prescription lifestyle and hunt has been very firm in that he says hes not going to do anything about these taxes. And i thats huge mistake. I think thats a huge mistake. I really is. Really do think it is. Yeah. I mean because if the tories cant give a tax break, if they cant stop the boats and what can they do . And people will exactly. Will just vote. Well, exactly. Thing is, is the i mean, the thing is, is the people will vote for the conservatives if they start to act conservatives again. Act like conservatives again. And people and thats because people who vote generally vote conservative generally are small state, low taxation people. Not someone you people. Theyre not someone you know, i mean , labour. I mean, know, i mean, labour. I mean, the other thing is, is that if the other thing is, is that if the tories dont cut taxes, neighbours certainly arent going cut taxes. So and you going to cut taxes. So and you know what saw last week in know what we saw last week in those two by elections was basically conservative voters staying they staying away. They didnt they just up. And if that just didnt show up. And if that happens at the general election, then , you know, labour will take then, you know, labour will take control and then there will be a whole other set of problems and we wont see tax cuts. We certainly wont see tax cuts. I have under i wouldnt have thought under laboun i wouldnt have thought under labour, no. Labour, no. The party of high taxes well the party of high taxes traditionally, we have traditionally, although we have the since world the highest taxes since world war can get worse . War ii, so can it get any worse . Stay sarah, please. Stay with us, sarah, please. Because on, the labour mp because moving on, the labour mp stella accused the Stella Creasy has accused the government denying refugees Stella Creasy has accused the gov beingnt denying refugees Stella Creasy has accused the gov being kicked enying refugees Stella Creasy has accused the gov being kicked out ng refugees Stella Creasy has accused the gov being kicked out of refugees Stella Creasy has accused the gov being kicked out of hotels es are being kicked out of hotels with by the home with a weeks notice by the home office. Says has office. She says she has evidence this providing and evidence of this providing and provided the following receipt from a hotel. So for those listening on the radio, we can see that a letter issued on the 19th of october for asks the tenants to vacate the premises by the 27th of october. This comes as the immigration minister, Robert Jenrick, confirmed the use of hotels to accommodate migrants will to slow down will start to slow down significantly the coming months. Well, tell us down well, tell us break down the accusation political accusation as gb news Political Correspondent utley. Correspondent olivia utley. Hello to you, olivia. Im great to speak to you as ever. So here we go again. Illegal immigration is used a political is being used as a political football. This stella football. This time, Stella Creasy wading in, accusing the government pretty hairy government of some pretty hairy things. Government is things. But the government is denying them. Denying them. The government is denying them. And its hard to work out exactly what what Stella Creasys information is behind this. We dont know if this was just a one off incident, what the background was, but according to the government , according to the government, they only plan to start closing Migrant Hotels january. Migrant hotels in january. According to Robert Jenrick statement yesterday , the statement yesterday, the government wants to end contracts with 50 Migrant Hotels in january and then a further 50 in january and then a further 50 in march , which Robert Jenrick in march, which Robert Jenrick says , and if you look at the says, and if you look at the numbers im inclined to believe him on the face of it, that numbers im inclined to believe him on the face of it , that the him on the face of it, that the reason they are able to start closing, ending contracts with hotels for migrants is because a the number of migrants has gone down since last year. Weve seen a decrease of 15,000 migrants crossing the channel in 2023, compared to 2022 and b because the government has managed to up ramp up the number of caseworkers processing migrant refugee claims. So at the beginning of this year, there were 400 claims being processed per week that number is now 4500, which obviously means that the that the bottleneck is lessening somewhat rishi sunak said that by the end of this year , by the end of 2023, he year, by the end of 2023, he would have eliminated the backlog of migrants waiting for their claims to be processed, which on average can take 430 days over a year for a migrants claim to be processed. He said he would eliminate that backlog by the end of 2023. He hasnt eliminated it. It was 92,000 and its now 55,000. But as you can see, it has gone down quite a bit. So Robert Jenrick says that the reason they are able to talk about closing some of these hotels, bear in mind that its not by any means all of the hotels, we think 400 hotels are being used for migrants and 100 of will close in the next of them will close in the next six months. But reason is six months. But the reason is because government are because Government Policies are finally because the finally working and because the weather this year has been a little difficult than little bit more difficult than last migrant last year, making migrant crossings more more tricky. Okay. Thank you, olivia. Olivia, is pmqs, of olivia, there is pmqs, of course, later today well. So course, later today as well. So well be talking to olivia about that sarah, it that a bit later. But sarah, it justit that a bit later. But sarah, it just it just smells of political tinkering. This the idea that they suddenly close they can now suddenly close these martin these hotels, as martin said, because youve got an election around the corner. The around the corner. The speculation, course, that speculation, of course, that theyre marginal seats theyre also in marginal seats looks like just its just all really whiffy. And people will really whiffy. And people will 9 really whiffy. And people will go, well, if you can do this now, why now . Well, obviously well, because obviously the election focussed election has focussed their minds by minds and the and the by elections last has also elections last week has also focussed their minds and they and and understand and they and they understand that something that they that this is something that they really desperately do need to deal a huge really desperately do need to deal loser. A huge vote loser. And dont you think, though, that just feels like that this just feels like rearranging the chairs rearranging the deck chairs because if theyre in because as if theyre not in hotels, presumably will be hotels, presumably they will be evicted. And what were evicted. And then what they were trying housing trying to find social housing and get preferential and they may get preferential treatment british people, treatment over british people, certainly homeless. Certainly over british homeless. So solving so youre not solving the problem unless stop the problem unless you stop the boats. Youre simply moving the problem elsewhere . Well, we should really get Robert Jenrick back and ask him all of those back on and ask him all of those questions because where they going . Where are you going to put them going to be them now . Is there going to be a different i mean, as weve just heard, bibby stockholm is heard, the bibby stockholm is now £800 a night. So not now £800 a night. So im not sure any sure thats materially any better keeping them in better than keeping them in hotels. Can we do either of you have idea how ended up have any idea how weve ended up in position like what has happened . I think a combination of i think its a combination of its been a sort of combination of wokeness on the part of ministers. So, so tory, so the conservative party has always had this sort of image of being quite tough on on migrants and, and in late in the last few years theres been a sort of sense that theyve been trying to, as it were, win the hearts of people a bit. So theyve been sort of erring on the side of, i think , trying to be more think, trying to be more receptive to try and silence the sort of shouty left from the nasty parts and the. Yeah the problem is with doing that is thatis problem is with doing that is that is that, you know, the thing is a if youre a conservative government, you can never please the left because theyre never going to like you anyway because they hate you viscerally. So theres no point in even trying. So youre wasting your time. What its wasting your time. But what its done landed them with done is its landed them with this big this sort of huge, great big problem, now have a problem, which they now have a limited frame to solve. Limited time frame to solve. The next question, sarah, you know how the conservative policy works perhaps better than anybody that comes on this show and the problem with brexit is that we had two conservative parties. We had the wets as you might to call them, the might want to call them, the remainer shire tories. Then we had wall tories. We had the red wall tories. We certainly have that over immigration coming immigration action coming towards a general election cycle. Can those people be cycle. Can those same people be whipped to suddenly be strong on borders just not within borders or is it just not within their to do so . Borders or is it just not within thei to do so . Borders or is it just not within thei think to do so . Borders or is it just not within thei think its do so . Borders or is it just not within thei think its justio . Borders or is it just not within thei think its just very i think its just very difficult. I think i think i think the government has an incredibly narrow path to navigate. Mean, reason navigate. I mean, the reason a lot of people feel the issue with immigration is not really i dont think one of cultural its not a cultural thing. Its more a kind of practical thing. Its like, well, suddenly i cant get a place at my local school because there are just too many people. Gp or i cant get a job with because there are with my gp because there are just too many people. Its the pressure that it puts on Public Services local Services Services and local services for people they people and thats where they feel where they feel it and thats where they get upset because they say, well, actually, you know, i pay my why cant i access my taxes, why cant i access these services . Which dont these services . Which i dont think thats actually that unreasonable. To the unreasonable. And its up to the government it in such government to manage it in such a way that it doesnt have that impact its impact on people. And its failed to do that. I mean, you know, im not to going you know, im a conservative, have im a a conservative, but i have to you know, cant to be honest, you know, i cant i dont i dont look at the way theyve handled and think, theyve handled this and think, wow, that was brilliant. I think youve actually done. I also wonder how wonder when we consider how weve to this position where weve got to this position where weve got to this position where weve got to this position where weve got this of money weve got to this position where weve spent|is of money weve got to this position where weve spent|is day of money weve got to this position where weve spent|is day housingzy being spent every day housing people want to live here, people who want to live here, and it hasnt been fonnard planned. I just wonder whether politicians dont the politicians dont feel the impacts immigration impacts of Mass Immigration in their every like their life every day, like somebody had a you somebody might whos had a you know, lived a terraced house know, lived in a terraced house in their whole life, in rochdale their whole life, run business and run a Small Business and suddenly community suddenly their community is so different. Happens different. I mean, what happens is living in westminster, i have no all no idea. Well i mean, all politicians start off with very good intentions and they all politicians start off with very good offentions and they all politicians start off with very good off living; and they all politicians start off with very good off living ordinaryey all politicians start off with very good off living ordinary lives. Start off living ordinary lives. And as they progress and then as they progress through their career, they become more insulated become more and more insulated and, know, its and, well, its, you know, its difficult youre a minister difficult if youre a minister and, youre in car and, you know, youre in a car or youre from car to or youre going from car to cabinets. Know, i suppose cabinets. You know, i suppose you dont these you probably dont feel these things keenly. Things quite so keenly. Well, might feel well, they might feel it keenly the electorate kick keenly when the electorate kick them in the backside at the next general election anyway. Martin yeah, nicely put, martin right. You, sarah. Okay. Right. Thank you, sarah. Okay. Now, moving on. Gazas Health Ministry hospitals Ministry Says hospitals and medical in strip medical facilities in the strip have complied collapsed as the un says its humanitarian efforts are in jeopardy with having less than 24 hours of fuel left. Thats right. Than 24 hours of fuel left. Thats right. All of than 24 hours of fuel left. Thats right. All of this follows more than two weeks of a heavy Bombing Campaign and a full blockade on the tiny enclave home to over 2 million people. As a retaliation for hamas attacks earlier this month that killed 1400 israelis and the head of the un says he is deeply concerned about the clear violations of International Law taking place in gaza. Taking place in gaza. It is important to also recognise the attacks by hamas did not happen in a vacuum. The Palestinian People have been subjected to 56 years of suffocating occupation. They suffocating occupation. They have seen their land steadily devoured by settlements and plagued by violence. Their economy is stifled, their people displaced and their homes demolished, their hopes for a political solution to their plight have been vanishing. But plight have been vanishing. But the grievances of the Palestinian People cannot justify the appalling attacks by hamas. And those appalling hamas. And those appalling attacks cannot justify the collective punishment of the Palestinian People. Palestinian people. Lets get the latest now live from mark white in tel aviv. Good morning, mark. Very powerful statement there from guterres, particularly using the phrase collective punish moment. What are you hearing there in tel aviv about how this speech has been received . Well absolute has been received . Well absolute anger at the comments made by the un secretary general. Some politicians and commentators saying that this man is no longer welcome in israel. Others include the israeli ambassador to the un calling for Antonio Guterres to resign soon because of what they say is comments effectively justifying what hamas did on october the 7th. Interestingly we heard from the immigration minister, Robert Jenrick, just short , short time ago as well, short, short time ago as well, being interviewed on gb news. He said that he believed the un secretary generals comments were wrong and were and there were wrong and were and there were undiplomatic is what he said. And he agreed. I think with a lot of israeli commentators that although the un secretary general was saying there could be no justice location for those attacks on october the 7th, it appears in the statement he gave that he was doing just that. Was doing just that. Okay, mark, a quick point out that you were speaking earlier about hamas possibly meeting with hezbollah and that of course, threatens to spread this conflict to the north in lebanon and really exacerbate this spreading throughout the whole region. How concerned are locals about that in tel aviv , there is about that in tel aviv, there is real concern about a wider regional conflict here and that Hassan Nasrallah , the head of Hassan Nasrallah, the head of hezbollahs meeting with the leaders of islamic jihad, of course, the second largest terror group in in gaza, and also with leaders of hamas , is also with leaders of hamas, is very concerning indeed. Very concerning indeed. They spoke about an axis of resistance science to try to ensure victory in gaza and the hezbollah controlled Al Manar Television station said that they mentioned as part of this axis is iran and syria as well. And we saw over night in syria a number of airstrikes on Syrian Military positions in southwestern syria. The syrian southwestern syria. The syrian authorities confirm that eight syrian soldiers had been killed and seven others were injured. And seven others were injured. Now, israel confirmed the strikes , but they said that was strikes, but they said that was in response to rockets fired from syria in to israel. They landed in open spaces and caused no injuries. And in addition to that, from the hezbollah terrorists in southern lebanon and more fire coming over that border into northern israel and confirmation from the Israeli Defence forces that they have now taken out. They say six now taken out. They say six terrorists cells that were launching munitions and missiles over that border. Yeah. Over that border. Yeah. Okay. Thank you, mark. Well be talking to mark later in the show as well. Your views are coming in. Were to going get to those as well after the break. And also still to come, bbc director general tim davies facing a group tory mps to facing a group of tory mps to find dont call find out why they dont call hamas a terrorist group. Dont go anywhere. Very morning. Hello. Very good morning. Its your its alex burkill here with your latest news weather update latest gb news weather update away from eastern scotland. Many places drier places will see some drier weather for time today, but weather for a time today, but further rain to come in the southeast. Its a wet start. First thing if youre about to head out the door, watch out for some rain on the roads. Some heavy rain on the roads. Could cause some problems. But the is clearing the heavy rain is clearing through go through the through as we go through the morning. Othennise, then across much and much of england, wales and northern ireland, therell be some weather some dry, bright weather into the different the afternoon, but a different story for eastern scotland. Here. Going to cloudy here. It is going to be cloudy and through much of the day. And wet through much of the day. Temperatures near normal for the time highs around 14, time of year, highs around 14, possibly the possibly 15 celsius in the south. A bit cooler further north later on today, we are going to see a band of rain pushing its way in from the southwest. Thats gradually going to make its way north eastwards, bringing some heavy rain parts of northern rain across parts of northern ireland, wales south west ireland, wales in the south west and later into the midlands and then later into the midlands as the early hours as we go through the early hours of staying quite of thursday, staying quite cloudy across parts of cloudy and wet across parts of scotland result. But it is scotland as a result. But it is going to be relatively mild going to be a relatively mild night, not quite as chilly as last places did last night where some places did dip freezing as we go dip below freezing as we go through thursday. Then that rain continues to push way north continues to push its way north eastwards into more northern and eastern of england. Could eastern parts of england. Could be across parts be heavy at times across parts of and notice some of east anglia. And notice some hefty showers following in behind downpours behind some heavy downpours possible coastal possible around south coastal parts. Also, some further rain parts. Also, some further rain for eastern parts of scotland. That could be a little bit heavier than the rain. Were going to see through today. Temperatures similar, perhaps a touch today for some now. Still to come, with youth crime and anti social behaviour on the rise, is boxing the best way to get kids off of british streets . This is britains newsroom on gb news, the peoples. Channel its 10 00 on wednesday, the 25th of october. This is britains newsroom on gb news with Martin Daubney and me, bev turner. And today the bbcs director general, tim davie is due to meet tory mps this afternoon. Its expected that hell be asked as to why explain the National Broadcaster doesnt refer hamas as terrorists. Refer to hamas as terrorists. Well have all the latest. More heavy rain forecast and flooding is to be expected in the aftermath of storm for the aftermath of storm babet for many parts the country today. Many parts of the country today. Our annie ana riley can our reporter annie ana riley can give us the latest from sheffield and here in catcliffe in rotherham, 250 residents were evacuated at the weekend and the clean up Mission Continues for people who have lost their homes and tackling youth crime with anti social behaviour and crime on the rise, could boxing be the way of getting young people in and off of british streets for aws . We are allowing them to gain control of their thoughts so what you have to always realise is consequence. So actions have consequences. His. Consequences. His. Every day boxing. Ive got the wrong frame for it. Im too tall, too heavy and i get hit a lot and i break my fingers all the time playing football. So boxing be id be on the floor. But good boxers are tall though that cant surely be a its good have a long reach, its to good have a long reach, but it means you fight heavier people. But boxing for young lads is a fantastic thing. Ive done a load work on that. When i was load of work on that. When i was into Mens Mental Health campaigning on that and it campaigning on that and i saw it firsthand belfast, out in firsthand in belfast, out in nottinghamshire, derbyshire nottinghamshire, in derbyshire and really and across yorkshire, really works any sport. It, its good for lets face it, its good for kids keeps them on kids and teens. It keeps them on the narrow. Let us the straight and narrow. Let us know your thoughts morning. Know your thoughts this morning. Vaiews gbnews. Com. Know your thoughts this morning. Vaiews gbnewswith. Know your thoughts this morning. Vaiews gbnewswith. Ray heres your news with. Ray thanks guys. Good morning. Thanks guys. Good morning. 10 01. Our top stories this houn 10 01. Our top stories this hour. Israel intensified airstrikes on gaza overnight, rejecting calls for a ceasefire. The military says it targeted hamas infrastructure following one of the deadliest days for palestinians. There are growing concerns that the conflict could spread across the region. This morning, the leaders of terrorist groups reportedly met to discuss a so called resistance axis against israel. Lebanons hezbollah leader is said to have held talks with the head of hamas and Palestinian Islamic jihad. Well, the united nafionsis islamic jihad. Well, the United Nations is warning the humanitarian crisis in gaza is deepening , with more than deepening, with more than a third of hospitals being forced to close because of damage or a lack of fuel. Doctors say lack of fuel. Doctors say patients are showing signs of disease caused by overcrowding and poor sanitation. An the un and poor sanitation. An the un says it may have had to halt its operations because fuel is running out. Israel blocked its delivery to prevent hamas from seizing supplies. Meanwhile the seizing supplies. Meanwhile the un secretary general has reiterate amid calls for a ceasefire to allow the Safe Delivery of aid. Antonio guterres says hes concerned by what he called clear violations of humanitarian law. The Palestinian Red Crescent confirmed eight trucks crossed the rafah border yesterday, but the rafah border yesterday, but the un says dozens more are still waiting to enter from egypt. I am deeply concerned about the clear violations of International Humanitarian law that we are witnessing in gaza. That we are witnessing in gaza. Let me be clear. Were no to let me be clear. Were no to party an Armed Conflict is above International Humanitarian law , International Humanitarian law, so it is important to also recognise the attacks by hamas did not happen in a vacuum. The did not happen in a vacuum. The Palestinian People. Have been Palestinian People. Have been subjected to 56 years of suffocating occupation when they have seen their land steadily devoured by settlements and plagued by violence as well. Plagued by violence as well. Speaking on gb news immigration minister Robert Jenrick has criticised the secretary generals comments. Secretary generals comments. Well, i thought the secretary generals comments were wrong. They were unacceptable and they were undeploy matic. He implied that there was a justification for what happened to israel two weeks ago. There is no justification for murderous, barbaric terrorist attacks on innocent civilians, children being killed, burnt, kidnapped. You know, nobody dodi nobody should be trying to make a justification for that. Justification for that. Mps are expected to vote later over whether peter bone should be suspended from the commons. Its after commons. Its after a Parliamentary Panel found the member for wellingborough committed acts of bullying and one act of Sexual Misconduct against a male staff member in 2012 and 2013. If the recommended six week suspension is approved, it could trigger a recall petition and lead to a by election. Mr bone denies the allegations and has vowed to continue representing his constituents. A panel is due to constituents. A panel is due to decide whether five met Police Officers are guilty of gross misconduct over the stop and search of two black athletes. S ricardo dos santos and his partner Bianca Williams were stopped in their car in london in 2020. They were handcuffed, searched for weapons and drugs and separated from their three month old son. Nothing was found and no arrests were made, with the pair publicly accusing the force of racism. All five officers have denied any wrongdoing. A watchdog says its wrongdoing. A watchdog says its worst nightmares have come true after thousands of ai generated images showing child abuse were shared on a dark web forum. The Internet Watch Foundation says criminals are now using the faces and bodies of real children who have appeared in abuse imagery to create new images in a single month. Abuse imagery to create new images in a single month. The ai images in a single month. The ai said it investigated over 11,000 shared pictures. It said the shared pictures. It said the most convincing images would be difficult for even trained analysts to distinguish from real photos. And it would become harder for police to protect children. Uk astronauts could children. Uk astronauts could soon be heading into orbit on an all British Mission for the first time ever. The Uk Space Agency has signed an agreement with axiom space, an american based firm, to try to make it happen. Astronauts would spend up to two weeks to carry out scientific experiments and participate in educational activities. This is gb news activities. This is gb news across the uk on tv, in your car, on Digital Radio, and on your Smart Speaker by saying play gb news. Now lets get back to martin and beth. To martin and beth. Welcome back. It is 1006 on wednesday morning. Thank you for joining britains newsroom on gb news. You have been getting in touch at home. Been touch at home. Weve been talking about the bibby stockholm a night, as stockholm £800 a night, same as a the savoy. Thats right. The king, the king room deluxe, less. Deluxe, no less. Well, lynn has said, i dont blame the Asylum Seekers. It doesnt much it doesnt matter how much it costs. Wouldnt want to live costs. I wouldnt want to live on a barge either. This how much and john says this how much longer we going to be taken longer are we going to be taken for mugs . The government should put first, like put british people first, like the by the the poor people affected by the floods them first rather floods pay for them first rather than the migrants. A lot you talking along a lot of you talking along those has said this those lines, mick has said this country weve got country is a disgrace. Weve got normal having go normal families having to go to food banks, yet were happy to pay per food banks, yet were happy to pay per night for asylum pay £800 per night for a Asylum Seekers. It is madness. And straight to the and steve, straight to the point. On. This is just point. Come on. This is just crazy. Its a money making scheme them that scheme to house them on that barge. My hard barge. I dont want my hard money wasted on that. Money wasted on that. And also, youll be getting in touch about the conservatives. We had sarah vine here this morning. Missed here this morning. If you missed that, were you . Youve that, where were you . Youve missed of interesting missed a lot of interesting stuff. Well, sue has said, dont just of jeremy hunt. Get just get rid of jeremy hunt. Get rid too. Neither rid of rishi sunak, too. Neither of has got enough of them has got enough personality win the general personality to win the general election not election for the tories, not even against wimpy starmer. Says, i like whereas phil says, i like jeremy he seems clever jeremy hunt. He seems a clever man. I sorry for him with man. I feel sorry for him with the other tory mps stabbing him in back, not impressed. And in the back, not impressed. And there till the there we have it. Till the bitter end. A divided tory party. Keep your messages coming. Vaiews gbnews. Com email keep your messages coming. Gb always. Jbnews. Com email keep your messages coming. Gb always. Jbnnthe com email keep your messages coming. Gb always. Jbnnthe bbc email keep your messages coming. Gb always. |bnnthe bbc is email as always. So the bbc is director general tim davies due to tory this afternoon. To meet tory mps this afternoon. Expected hell be asked yes. Expected hell be asked to explain the national to explain why the National Broadcaster refer broadcaster doesnt refer to Hamas Terrorists. Hamas as terrorists. However, it is understood that davies appearance was arranged in july before the controversy. So joining us now to discuss is former bbc executive and presenter roger bolton. Hi, roger. Good to see bolton. Hi, roger. Good to see you. So bolton. Hi, roger. Good to see you. So this meeting was originally arranged, so that tim davie could be questioned about whether the bbc was biased against the conservative party. And now , given events of the and now, given events of the last two and a half weeks, they are also accused of being biased politically in terms of this conflict. Explain your position on it. Why do you think the bbc shouldnt call Hamas Terrorists . Well the bbc is always accused of being biased , usually by the of being biased, usually by the government in power. You remember alastair campbell. Remember all those going mrs. Thatcher going back, mrs. Thatcher or whatever. So theyre always going it in the neck. Going to get it in the neck. Somebody said when the country is divided, bbc is on the is divided, the bbc is on the rack. By the way, not the rack. Its by the way, not the National Broadcaster. You keep referring to that it is the bbc, british broadcasting corporation. It doesnt the National Broadcaster sort of suggest that it should be representing the views of the government some way, and government in some way, and thats the thats not the case. And the problem it faces is that its fundamental job is to report and to be believed. And if gets to be believed. And if it gets into the business of attribute calling groups by a calling particular groups by a particular name , it may not be particular name, it may not be believed in those places you most want it to be believed. And most want it to be believed. And also, what is terrorism is, for example, what the Chinese Government is doing to the uyghurs, terrorism. I certainly say that what is happening in the burmese called burmese government is to the people there. Where do you stop . Its very difficult. Were in the middle of a propaganda war here, and there are suffering on every side. Understandably, all side. And understandably, all those their case put those sides want their case put fonnard in the most vivid way. The thing the can do is the best thing the bbc can do is just report whats that . Im so sorry. Im so sorry. With the greatest of respect, the nit picking that you just did, then about who the bbc is very much demonstrates why the british pubuc demonstrates why the British Public feel that it isnt spending the taxpayers money appropriately. The idea that its not the National Broadcaster here is, is we dont feel the british people dont feel the british people dont feel that is the case. I dont well, i dont think its nit pick and you say the british pubuc pick and you say the British Public feels this actually the British Public is fundamentally still supports and trusts the bbc course, its not bbc news, of course, its not perfect it makes mistakes, perfect and it makes mistakes, but the suggestion that idea but the suggestion that the idea that it should represent britain is a difficult one. The bbc should be reporting objective fully and as far as it can, and it has a World Service and we want to be believed around the world, dont we, for what we say. And if people think its just the bbc is the mouthpiece of government, then youre in trouble. You know, do if you think World Service is of value that matters. Its not nitpicking. Okay, roger, on the topic of nitpicking, if you dont think hamas should be called terrorist or what would you call people who murder, decapitate , set fire who murder, decapitate, set fire and then abduct and put into hostage people . What would you call them . Hold on. Were talking about what the bbc should call them, not what i should call you agree with the bbc position. You made that clear. So im asking what would you call asking you, what would you call them if theyre not terrorists, would are important. Of terror, as i those are act of terror, as i do think the bombing is going on in parts of israel at the moment with thousands being killed with the thousands being killed and so are also their own and so are also in their own way, of terror. I im not way, acts of terror. I im not i dont say that i dont have any time for hamas at all. At all or hezbollah or anything like that. But it doesnt help if you want to get people to believe whats going on. If you start adding those epithets and so on, you should say they simply report the atrocities that hamas has committed. I mean , i think that committed. I mean, i think that sorry , i was going to say. Sorry, i was going to say. But but what it does, roger, because the bbc is not calling that the events of october the 7th a terrorist attack. 7th a terrorist attack. Everybodys very quickly moving on. Very quickly moving on now to look at the action that israel is taking. If october the 7th is viewed globally as a terrorist attack, we would still be dissecting in much greater detail what happened that day and what a proportionate response might be. Thats a separate conversation, but with the bbc describing them as well, some governments, including the uk, them terrorist uk, call them a terrorist organisation. You see it organisation. Do you see it takes a lot of the it takes the power out of how awful that day was as well . I dont think so , but im i dont think so, but im happy. And by the way, the bbc has talked about terrorist acts. Theres difference between theres a difference between sorry , were getting roger back. Sorry, were getting roger back. Sorry. We had our we have our sorry. We had our we have our next guest, sorry. We had our we have our next guest , jim dale, there next guest, jim dale, there waiting. I think weve had a technical issue. Sorry, roger, carry on. What i was trying to say there is the difference between sanctioning terrorist act, sanctioning as a terrorist act, which labelling which clearly was and labelling the organisation terrorism for me, important thing is me, the most important thing is we want people to believe they awful truth that reporters on the ground are revealing and they should actually spell out increasingly what happened in israel. But also they need, if israel. But also they need, if they can get in, to report the deaths that are happening in gaza now, itll be very difficult for the director general tonight. This director general tonight. This afternoon. But i remember an afternoon. But i remember an occasion 40 years ago in the falklands conflict , almost an falklands conflict, almost an identical situation and the bbc chairman then was called George Howard was a large man and it was called an roasting. And was called an roasting. And roger said that his entrails on the ground so i think itll be tough tonight. Roger, what would you say to people out there who say the bbc arent normally shy to kind of take a position on things, things like brexit, things like climate change, but reluctant to take a position on calling Hamas Terrorists, quite quick to terrorists, but quite quick to take position on on the take a position on on the bombing of the hospital car park, as you know, attributable as the fault of israel before that was was. So what im trying to get at here, is there a predisposition in in the bbc minds set to, if you like sort side with one side over the other . No. And i could challenge all the things youre saying about brexit and Everything Else because dropping those in, i mean, direct question there isnt a bbc mindset. Have you ever worked in the place . Yes, there over 200 there are over 200 correspondents, 45 correspondents, so about 45 broadcasting and 45 languages, a whole raft people. There is whole raft of people. There is no conspiracy , of no general conspiracy, of course. Everybody has prejudices and youve got to watch out for them. But the bbc just desperately tries to say what the truth is when it gets it wrong. It says the New York Times, by the way, made that same mistake. The bbc made , and same mistake. The bbc made, and the New York Times and the bbc apologised for mistake. Apologised for that mistake. Well, it shouldnt it well, it shouldnt make it again, apologise. Lots again, but they apologise. Lots of people made that of other people made that mistake and havent apologised. And what the and by the way, what the bbc said was, according to hamas , it said was, according to hamas, it didnt israeli response didnt have an israeli response at that and it should have at that time and it should have been sceptical. It will been more sceptical. But it will inevitably make mistakes. The question is, does it apologise quickly symptomatic quickly and is this symptomatic of worldview . It isnt. I of a worldview . It isnt. I dont believe that at all. You know, on other subjects , i think know, on other subjects, i think when it comes to the naming of hamas as terrorists , that isnt hamas as terrorists, that isnt just down to the individual producers or researchers of any particular output that is the style guide of the british broadcasting corp. Station. So that cant be attributed to individual channels. Ive also worked at the bbc. My suggestion would also be that the bbc is employing a lot of people who are privately educated and who can afford to work as youngsters are not getting paid a lot of money theyve bankrolled by the family to and so to be there. And so unfortunately , i do think there unfortunately, i do think there is collective mindset often is a collective mindset often working offices working within the offices of the doesnt represent the bbc, which doesnt represent most people actually this most people actually in this country. Me would you suggest country. Me would you suggest theres any sort of truth to that . There is a london, often a very westminster mindset actually, and so it becomes a bit of an echo chamber , right, bit of an echo chamber, right, sort of from carlyle who went to Liverpool University and didnt go to Public School and went to state school. Okay, ill give you an answer, which i agree with a answer, which is i agree with a lot that because is lot of that because there is a real danger now. I mean, its like victorian conditions where people employed short like victorian conditions where peop|contractsployed short like victorian conditions where peop|contractsploy you short like victorian conditions where peop|contractsploy you go fort Term Contracts and you go through the danger is particularly london, that particularly in london, that only wealthy only people with wealthy parents, know, get into the parents, you know, get into the place. What got to place. But what weve got to have therefore thats the reason for the bbc comes for making sure the bbc comes from leeds, everything from salford, leeds, Everything Else, and it makes it absolutely right that people like you should scrutinise what it does, but you shouldnt do really but what you shouldnt do really shouldnt assume theres shouldnt do is assume theres a worldview shared by everybody shouldnt do is assume theres a worl works shared by everybody shouldnt do is assume theres a worl works atired by everybody shouldnt do is assume theres a worl works atired bbc. erybody shouldnt do is assume theres a worl works atired bbc. There iy shouldnt do is assume theres a worl works atired bbc. There are who works at the bbc. There are policies. Has its tried to policies. It has its tried to explain this policy its explain this policy and its a difficult one. But let me make it clear what happened clearly in gaza, rather just historic. In gaza, ratherjust historic. What happened in israel was an appalling terrorist act, totally disgusting. But it doesnt help disgusting. But it doesnt help it if the bbc isnt believed because its calling that organisation a terrorist organisation a terrorist organisation. Then you want to organisation. Then you want to be believed in arab capitals, arab countries. You want to believe in gaza, you want people to acknowledge the reality of what hamas is doing. And its best done, in my view. And i think the bbcs view, which i dont represent, the bbc, the bbc is simply reporting the facts and the facts are horrible enough. Okay, roger, we appreciate your experience, your insight. Your experience, your insight. Thats exactly what we do here on gb news. We show all sides of the story. Bbc could try a little harder, but good to see you. Roger bolton thank you so much for joining you. Roger bolton thank you so much forjoining us. Much for joining us. And i have worked for the bbc loads years and i was the loads for years and i was the only person on every show only person on on every show i ever went on who had my political viewpoint. So there we go. In that office back there full young people all full of young people from all sorts backgrounds, educations full of young people from all s nationalities, ounds, educations full of young people from all s nationalities, politicaliucations , nationalities, political persuasions. And we are persuasions. And we are representing you. And that is representing you. And that is why youre tuning in in your droves. So thank you for joining us. Great debate, though. Now, so parts of moving on now, so parts of the devastated by floods are the uk devastated by floods are now facing yellow fog warning. The uk devastated by floods are now met1g yellow fog warning. The uk devastated by floods are now met officellow fog warning. The uk devastated by floods are now met office said fog warning. The uk devastated by floods are now met office said there arning. The uk devastated by floods are now met office said there is 1ing. The met office said there is a small chance that homes and businesses be flooded. Businesses could be flooded. If youre wondering why now, if youre wondering why we bad weather, we are facing such bad weather, environment secretaries, coffee had forecasting had this explanation forecasting predicting weather normally because most of our rain tends to come in from the west and weve got that pretty much down to a fine art. This was rain coming from the other way. Other way. Hang on. Did she just say the rain comes from the west . And weve got that down to a fine art. Theyve got that down to fine, but its the wrong type of rain. The rain came in the wrong way. Right. Jim dale, senior meteorologist at bristol, british weather services, friend of the show, can you just of the show, jim, can you just get the rain to just fall in the right please . And right way, please . And then everything would right everything would be all right for theresa coffee you had one everything would be all right for tjim . Sa coffee you had one job, jim . About that, isnt yeah, its about that, isnt it . Gobsmacked at that one, to be honest. And it actually shows. Ill tell you what shes doing there. Shes shooting the messenger. Shes basically saying, oh, you know, meteorologists got wrong. Meteorologists got it all wrong. And, this is why we and, you know, this is why we got floods and is why got the floods and this is why people homes and people lost their homes and sadly, there were some deaths along the way. Shes wrong along the way. Shes the wrong person wrong place the person in the wrong place at the wrong and this goes to the wrong time. And this goes to the heart of government, be heart of government, to be honest with you, in terms of ill use the word inept because that a net comment. Um that was in a net comment. Um a net people in those positions of power do what theyre saying, what theyre saying , making what theyre saying, making people like ourselves in, in my profession and the met office included that this is somehow our fault, that people are losing their, their livelihood , losing their, their livelihood, their homes and even their lives due to meteorologists. Well ive got news for it. Thats thats thats just all wrong. And um, as i say, gobsmacked and jim there is history in this blame game, isnt there . We had the wrong type of snow in 1991 that crippled british rail and then we had teflon leaves that fell too fast in 2010. Also crippling the trains. Isnt this just down to one thing . And its the british are terrible at planning for any form of extreme weather . Yeah, we are. Martin well, we are, and were not. I think the warnings that were giving out are the first step. And if people take note of those things, then, you know, actions can be taken, property can be saved potentially , and lives can saved potentially, and lives can be saved on the back of that. So warnings are the first thing. But but i think the next stage, youre dead right. This is a conversation that needs to happen. Where are we now . What have got to do, particularly have we got to do, particularly for these poor people in river valley where, you know, valley areas where, you know, this is to going happen again into future . Get into the future . We wont get into the future . We wont get into but into climate change, but nonetheless , you they nonetheless, um, you know, they are susceptible to this. And so the government have been in power years, seem to have power for 13 years, seem to have done to nothing. And when done next to nothing. And when it happens and then come and come out on in an house of Commons Committee and suggest somehow or other rain was coming from south. So it wasnt the from the south. So it wasnt the right direction and its all its fault or its all meteorologist fault. No, sorry, not not at all. Theresa coffey jim, the other thing that of course people are saying and ive seen this with my own eyes and theres some brilliant videos onune theres some brilliant videos online is that the trouble is councils have swept any councils have not swept up any leaves this this year and we leaves in this this year and we had no mow may in west london. So we had all of this grass that grew on all the pavements. It looked disgusting. They it looked disgusting. Then they came in about came and mowed it in about september theres still september where theres still grass pavement and grass all over the pavement and the are full, arent they, the grids are full, arent they, of all of this debris . Because the hasnt done the council hasnt done any leave leaf sweeping. And so the leave leaf sweeping. And so the drains are blocked. Thats part of the problem. So behind me is of the problem. So behind me is a lot of trees. I mean, im a place called keep hillwood in wickham. You can probably see it now. Yeah. And a lot of those things havent dropped their leaves. But to be honest with you, that would a minuscule would have been a minuscule reason blockages , you know, reason for blockages, you know, drains, etcetera. Yeah, its always equation. Always part of the equation. Martins always mentioned already the leaves on already mentioned the leaves on the line and that type of thing. It happens periodically. It happens every year in some shape or form, but primarily the or form, but primarily we the reasons what weve reasons for seeing what weve seen in the last few days and even now this morning in central southern england, down, down towards the wight, towards the isle of wight, theres been very heavy theres been some very heavy rain as well. You get rain there as well. You get these you get these events that occur are out of kilter occur that are out of kilter from, lets just say, normal weather, extreme weather and yet they will always catch people out to a certain degree despite the warnings that were given. But i just go back to where we started. Bev and martin, and thatis started. Bev and martin, and that is for a government minister to sit there and start blaming director the wind blaming the director of the wind in of where the rain is in terms of where the rain is coming from on the catastrophe thats happened to some people watching this program today and wondering their wondering and scratching their heads saying, lack of heads saying, no, its lack of planning , heads saying, no, its lack of planning, lack of money and lack of endeavour this government. Of endeavour by this government. They have 13 years to do something theyve something about it and theyve done zero. Youre right. Done next to zero. Youre right. Thank you, jim. All right. Thank you, jim. Good youve been good to see you. If youve been affected this at home, by the affected by this at home, by the way, please email us. In fact, send us send us photos as send us send us your photos as well. Try and some well. Well try and get some photos on. No doubt, rather than and no doubt, rather than doing the whole of clearing doing the whole work of clearing drains, dredging the canals and keeping watennays running, keeping the watennays running, theyll just blame climate change. Its change. Yeah too easy that its not case. Not the case. And also, think a big and also, i think a big problem well. I mean, as jim problem as well. I mean, as jim said he sat there in high said there, he sat there in high wickham the beautiful trees wickham with the beautiful trees around the fields, around him and the fields, and weve got so many people are concreting over their driveways now. Weve changed now. So weve weve changed so much particularly much of what particularly our urban and there much of what particularly our urbaithe and there much of what particularly our urbaithe place and there much of what particularly our urbaithe place for and there much of what particularly our urbaithe place for the and there much of what particularly our urbaithe place for the water1ere much of what particularly our urbaithe place for the water toe isnt the place for the water to soak weve got it for you soak away. Weve got it for you if you are have been affected like this. I know being like this. I know were being a bit bit light hearted about bit a bit light hearted about Therese Coffey saying shed Therese Coffey saying that shed got down to a fine art. Got the rain down to a fine art. 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Weve got pmqs, course, at midday, but pmqs, of course, at midday, but weve brilliant guests weve got some brilliant guests coming got lot a lot coming up. Weve got a lot a lot of on immigration today. Of chat on immigration today. Loads stockholm a loads bibby stockholm the £800 a day. The government say day. The fact the government say theyre 100 of theyre going to close 100 of those which are housing those hotels which are housing migrants six months, migrants in the next six months, which remarkable. They can do which is remarkable. They can do that. I wonder got that. I wonder if its got anything with the fact anything to do with the fact theres election coming up. Theres an election coming up. Must be a coincidence. A lot of dont believe a lot of people dont believe them may well one of them and you may well be one of them and you may well be one of them there. Them out there. Keep your emails coming. Gb views gb news. Com. But now. Views at gb news. Com. But now. Moving on. Fresh deluge now moving on. Fresh deluge of expected of now moving on. Fresh deluge of uk expected of now moving on. Fresh deluge of uk alreadyted of now moving on. Fresh deluge of uk already hit of now moving on. Fresh deluge of uk already hit by of now moving on. Fresh deluge of uk already hit by flooding the uk already hit by flooding as a result of storm babet. As the clean continues, as we the clean up continues, as we are now by anna riley are joined now by anna riley from who who is from rotherham who joined who is joined rose kent at home. Joined by rose kent at her home. Morning, anna. We were joined by rose kent at her home. Talking rning, anna. We were joined by rose kent at her home. Talking about anna. We were joined by rose kent at her home. Talking about theta. We were joined by rose kent at her home. Talking about the impactsere just talking about the impacts of these and how of these storms and how devastating it is for people whose houses get damaged. Whats happened rotherham happened there in rotherham . On camera. Go away. Im on camera. Go away. Im on camera. Morning. Yes youll be good morning. Yes youll be able to see here. Were in roses conservatory. And you can can just see the devastation behind us. The sofas are overturned , the televisions come overturned, the televisions come down. The floor is full of mud and within the water thats come in, its sewage water. Thats thats come in as well. So its an unpleasant smell. Its an unpleasant smell. Its getting mouldy, but shes still waiting for the electrics to come back on. So she cant yet plug come back on. So she cant yet plug in a dehumidifier to try and dry out her house. And just tell us, rose, youve been living here 30 years and this is the third time youve been flooded now. But you were told back in two thousand and seven, those massive floods here, 16 years ago, that better flood defences would be put in place and that this wouldnt happen again. Again. Were tm again. Were. And it is its yeah, we were. And it is its absolutely devastating to see this has happened again to such an extent. Have another 5. 5ft in my house again, this is my home. Never a month of sundays never in a month of sundays would we that it would would we dream that it would happen this height in happen to this height again in our house. And, you know, wanting to know some of the causes , why its happened. And causes, why its happened. And so, yeah. And what what did happen because it was saturday day, wasnt it, that this all happened and people were evacuated. 250 people in this village evacuated from their homes. Yeah. So we did have an yeah. So we did have an initial flood watch warning via texts and things at about 2 30 in the morning. And then by 4 30, we had the local fire bngade 4 30, we had the local fire brigade come round and ask to us evacuate. We then spent another couple of hours trying to move things upstairs and try and save some things. And then we finally left at 6 30 in the morning and it was a good 2 to 3in throughout the whole of downstairs. And how are you feeling . And how are you feeling . Because tried to flood because you have tried to flood proof your home in a way, havent you . Youve changed the layout your house. Tell us layout of your house. Tell us about that. Yeah. So following the last flood, decided put flood, we decided to put some interventions just in interventions in place just in case again. So we case it happened again. So we put our fuse board on the first floor and the electrics come down to make it safer that way. Weve put tiles on the floor and. And the walls and hopefully this is a bit of a test to see whether it does work. And can put other people in the future, perhaps do this if its going to reduce the impact that its going to have on you following floods and its going to be a lot of waiting around, isnt it . Waiting around today youre waiting around today for insurance to come. For the insurance to come. Youre still waiting for your electric back youre electric to come back on. Youre currently living in an airbnb at the moment and you had to evacuate your pets as well, didnt you . Yeah. So evacuated pets yes, yeah. So evacuated pets and we still got small pets here in the as well. So in the house as well. So obviously were coming back regular make that regular to just make sure that theyre okay theyre warm theyre okay and theyre warm and too cold and and not getting too cold and damp. E m damp. Do you who would you and what do you who would you blame for this or what do you think needs to happen to stop this again . This happening again . I think for us on our so i think for us on our local area, following the last flood, whats happened is theres been a huge Building Development up on the hill. And development up on the hill. And whats whats gone on is, is that this has impacted on all the drainage thats running down to us. So the developers have built and built. So the developers have built and built. Sorry to so the developers have built and built. Sorry to interrupt and built. Sorry to interrupt you. Weve just got a pan and sweeper hire coming past. So sorry for the noise. But bev, i believe you might might have a question yourself for road. Road. Well, anna, i was just. We were just sitting here wondering and obviously you are right in the centre of the action there. So apologies sound, so apologies for the sound, but theres the cleanup so apologies for the sound, but theres going the cleanup so apologies for the sound, but theres going on cleanup so apologies for the sound, but theres going on aroundp so apologies for the sound, but theres going on around you. Operation going on around you. We wondering, what we were just wondering, what did the the local the council or the local authorities they were going Authorities Say they were going to the flooding to do to prevent the flooding that didnt do . That they didnt do . Yeah, so bevs just asking there about about the council, you know , what measures did they you know, what measures did they say theyd put in place . Because i know in two thousand and seven, you sort of accepted, you know , being victims of the know, being victims of the floods to save the hospitals in the area. But what assurances did you get this time that, you know, the flood defences , you know, the flood defences, you know, the flood defences, you know, would be maintained and the system in process as as the flood gates opened would would would be working in proper order. So to reduce the impact of any of the water flow coming down to us. Thank you. And what other residents have told me as well is that, you know, theyre seeing people from the council on doing the clean on the ground doing the clean up job. But not necessarily seeing their local council coming job. But not necessarily seeing theirloand ouncil coming job. But not necessarily seeing their loand giving coming job. But not necessarily seeing their lo and giving thatoming job. But not necessarily seeing their lo and giving that assurance around and giving that assurance. Been questions as. And theres been questions as well the environment well about how the Environment Agency handled as well. Agency has handled this as well. Okay. All right. Thank you, okay. All right. Thank you, anna. Thank you, rose, for anna. And thank you, rose, for letting us have a peek at the misery of that in rotherham. And this has been going on for years. You know, successive governments, they used to call the wallys with the wellies. No ed cameron. They ed miliband, david cameron. They always starts. Always go when a flood starts. But never actually spend but they never actually spend the do the graph to the money and do the graph to stop happening the first place. Right. Still to come this morning, millionaire Migrant Hotel king, caravan park hotel king, a caravan park tycoon recorded a fortune in tycoon has recorded a fortune in profits after taxpayers handed over £3. 5 million a day last year to the home office contracts to house Asylum Seekers and get her out of here, said the country. Said the country. Now theres rumours shes heading to the jungle. Former Prime Minister liz truss has addressed comments that she will take part in this years im a celebrity. Get me out of here. That and much more after your mornings news with ray addison. Mornings news with ray addison. Thanks , guys. 1033 our top thanks, guys. 1033 our top stories. Israel intensified stories. Israel intensified airstrikes on gaza overnight. The military says it targeted hamas infrastructure there following one of the deadliest days for palestinians. There are growing concerns that the conflict could spread across the region. This morning, the leaders of terrorist groups reportedly met to discuss a so called resistance axis against israel. Lebanons against israel. Lebanons hezbollah leader is said to have held talks with the head of hamas and Palestinian Islamic jihad. Meanwhile the united jihad. Meanwhile the united nafionsis jihad. Meanwhile the United Nations is warning the humanitarian crisis in gaza is deepening, with more than a third of its hospitals being forced to close because of damage or a lack of fuel. Doctors say patients are showing signs of disease caused by overcrowding and poor sanitation. The un says it may have to halt its operations because fuel is running out. Israel blocked its delivery to prevent hamas from seizing suppues. Prevent hamas from seizing supplies. Mps prevent hamas from seizing supplies. Mps are prevent hamas from seizing supplies. Mps are expected to supplies. Mps are expected to vote later on whether peter bone should be suspended from the commons. Its after a Parliamentary Panel found the member for wellingborough committed acts of bullying and one act of Sexual Misconduct against a male staff member back in 2012 and 2013. If the recommended six week suspension is approved , it could trigger is approved, it could trigger a recall petition and lead to a by election. He denies the allegations. A panel is due to allegations. A panel is due to decide whether five met Police Officers are guilty of gross misconduct over the stop and search of two black athletes. Ricardo dos santos and his partner Bianca Williams were stopped in their car in london in 2020. Nothing was found. No arrests were made , with the pair arrests were made, with the pair publicly accusing the force of racism. All five officers have denied any wrongdoing. You can denied any wrongdoing. You can get more on all of those stories on our website, gbnews. Com. For on our website, gbnews. Com. For stunning gold and silver coins, youll always value. 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I love the story. North west story. North west of england. Im north west of england. Reporter sophie reaper visited a boxing lancashire find boxing gym in lancashire to find out new initiative that out about a new initiative that could this could help to tackle this important issue at this local boxing gym in kirkham, lancashire. Lancashire. The gloves are well and truly on in response to concerns over youth anti social social behaviour, a new initiative is encouraging young people to get into the ring instead. Into the ring instead. So i was exactly as they are. So i was exactly as they are. Adam little grew up in kirkham. He used boxing as an outlet, eventually becoming a professional , and now he owns professional, and now he owns his own gym and wants to give back to his local community. You find a lot about who you are in these four walls and sometimes thats all i need. For sometimes thats all i need. For us. We are allowing them to gain control of their thoughts. So what you have to always realise is consequence. So actions have consequence choices. Humans are allowed to make mistakes , but if allowed to make mistakes, but if you have to learn from them, othennise youre just going to continue to make that same mistake. Kirkham is not unique in its issues with anti social behaviour. Behaviour. Its a problem being faced by councils up and down the country on a daily basis. Were all very proud of our town. We want kirkham to be the best it can be. What we need to do is support and tackle the root cause of some of the issues and thats why were working in partnership the police and partnership with the police and with and think its with adam, and we think its a worthwhile investment from the town and town council to sponsor and support initiative in full support this initiative in full as part of operation centurion Lancashire Police has been given £2 million of government funding in order to crack down on anti social behaviour in the county. It gives us more money to put those extra resources and those extra visible resources on the streets which people like to see because its that little bit of reassurance. This is the sort of thing that builds the bridges between us. The community and more importantly, the kids. Were trying give that were trying to give you that diversionary thing. Dont diversionary thing. So you dont think around getting diversionary thing. So you dont think causing around getting diversionary thing. So you dont think causing thearound getting diversionary thing. So you dont think causing the problems, ting bored, causing the problems, giving abuse or causing giving people abuse or causing the the low level the damage and all the low level things that really impact all the a higher level the community on a higher level moving the community on a higher level mothis initiative hopes to this initiative hopes to reduce the level of anti social behaviour in the area, ensuring that ultimately the young people of kirkham are learning to box clever sophie reaper gb news gives me joy that watching kids doing sport and working out like that. Were joined now by intellectual heavyweights. Emma intellectual heavyweights. Emma webb and political lightweight Stephen Pound. Sorry, Stephen Stephen pound. Sorry, stephen couldnt resist that. Emma, what couldnt resist that. Emma, what do you think about that . I mean, we need more of these initiatives. Dont we, to get young people to focus on Something Else that just isnt just , sat in their room just texts, sat in their room getting fat and unhealthy. I love it. Yeah. Its not going be i mean its not going to be a Silver Bullet to all of the social problems, but it cant be anything than a good anything other than a good thing. Think i just thing. I think firstly, i just in i think its a good in general, i think its a good thing for young to learn how thing for young men to learn how to fight. I think that thats probably to be probably thats going to be taken the wrong way. But i think that the environment of learning how box and grappling how to how to box and grappling with your peers and that kind of thing is good for young men it thing is good for young men. It gives outlet, gives them an outlet, particularly in areas where there might be a lot of sort of social tension and that kind of thing. Can be nothing thing. So it can be nothing other than a good thing, unless, of get recruited by of course, they get recruited by a after theyve learnt to box. Yeah, its interesting because one of the things that drew actually drew me into politics actually was campaigning mens was campaigning on Mens Mental Health sort health and terrible sort of problems suicide, problems of suicide, particularly White Working Class lads at bottom of lads who are at the bottom of education have been for over 20 straight some straight years. I saw this, some evidence in belfast of this work in schools in the same in two schools in the same district, of which was district, one of which was affiliated gym, a boxing affiliated to a gym, a boxing gym where they just took the kind ruffians, as you kind of the ruffians, as you would in old money would call them in in old money and turned their lives around. And its a great you and it works. Its a great you must have seen this in your political time. Very and it doesnt very much so. And it doesnt just box. It just teach you how to box. It actually teaches you self control and self control and discipline. And its men. Its men its not just for men. Its men and women. I did a lot of sparring at hanwell boxing club where micky ayres actually trained. A of trained. And theres a couple of things immediately struck me about firstly about that boxing club. Firstly the largest cohort people we the largest cohort of people we had travellers, had were afghans travellers, people in people who were certainly in need sort of discipline need of some sort of discipline control the control and boundaries. The second completely second thing was a completely unsung huge of the unsung, a huge number of the trainers the coaches were trainers and the coaches were Police Officers doing in Police Officers doing it in their spare time with no fanfare, no credit whatsoever, just coming there and just coming down there and sparring left. And its sparring with the left. And its quite running a boxing quite difficult running a boxing gym keeping people but gym, keeping people going. But all i saw demonstrably, the people actually learnt that people who actually learnt that discipline that control discipline and that self control are because, you know, emma may want to sort of beat off all the crowds or the hordes of people after her for autographs and selfies as she emerges from the tube know, know you can be tube you know, i know you can be quite ferocious, you know, for a lightweight or a flyweight or a bantamweight, but the reality is it teaches you self control. And i provides that point i think it provides that point of stability and youre so right. Boxing has credibility with the sort of people that, you know , the old table tennis you know, the old table tennis youth club simply doesnt have. Yeah. Yeah. Couldnt more. Couldnt agree more. Couldnt agree more. Lets talk lets talk about the labour mounts down. Theres been a Huge Division it must be said steve well start with you as a labour man in the red corner, palestine has brought to the fore this divided labour party. Keir starmer is now party. Keir starmer is now facing the anger of muslim mps after what they are saying misread presenting blatantly proper pandering. Almost a trip to a mosque in wales. Well, lets get this into some slight sense of perspective. Less than a couple of dozen councillors have resigned, you know, and im not sure where that actually leaves them in terms of who theyre going to vote people richard vote for. People like Richard Burgon corbyn, you burgon and jeremy corbyn, you know, ever had any know, have never, ever had any other other than saying other position other than saying palestine can do no wrong, israel can do right. I think israel can do no right. I think what was trying to do and what keir was trying to do and hes visited mosque in hes he visited this mosque in cardiff just as much as he visited synagogues and schools throughout think throughout the country. I think fair him, fair credit to fair play to him, fair credit to it. But to call this a meltdown, i think is dear old tom harris. Does bomber harris, we used does it bomber harris, we used to him in one of one of the to call him in one of one of the papers today. Thats really overegging the pudding. Papers today. Thats really ovebut|ing the pudding. Papers today. Thats really ove but|ing the theyre g. Papers today. Thats really ovebut|ing the theyre all reports but emma, theyre all reports that bloke the man sorry, but emma, theyre all reports that evennke the man sorry, but emma, theyre all reports that evennke th starmer rry, but emma, theyre all reports that evennke th starmer was didnt even know starmer was turning couldnt speak turning up, couldnt speak english. He didnt even english. In fact, he didnt even know keir was. Know who keir starmer was. The mosque said that they know who keir starmer was. Thwknow que said that they know who keir starmer was. Thwknow thatsaid that they know who keir starmer was. Thwknow that hei that they know who keir starmer was. Thwknow that he wast they know who keir starmer was. Thwknow that he was coming didnt know that he was coming until the very last minute, it seems this was supposed to seems so. This was supposed to be with local be a meeting with local representatives to talk about whats palestine. Whats happening in palestine. And think just so and but i think its just so i mean, the bad pr of the wording of the tweet, i think is partly what has upset some people because it makes it almost makes it look as if it was the mosque themselves who were Holding Hostages or as if as if he had put to them the demands to release hostages. It was just a very, very poorly worded tweet. Very, very poorly worded tweet. But frankly, i think from the perspective of the labour party, if there are some people who genuinely do have a problem with condemning the kidnapping of elderly women and children, innocent civilians , raping innocent civilians, raping women, they if they genuinely women, if they if they genuinely do have a problem with keir starmer standing against that, demanding the release of those hostages, many of them are children and babies. And if they children and babies. And if they have a problem with keir starmer, quite rightly , he in in starmer, quite rightly, he in in and this is this is the case under International Law they only have a right but they also have an obligation to respond. Have an obligation to respond. And i think that those people, the labour party, will be better without those people. I think its pretty morally abhorrent. And i think if keir starmer really wanted to do, you know, have a backbone over this , yes, have a backbone over this, yes, he could lean into it and just simply say, if theyve got a problem with it by, by. Absolutely. There are about, as you say, steve, there are about 6000 labour councillors and theres about 20 of them have resigned over these comments. And if you were working with those councils in your area, what would you have said to them . What i would say to them quite simply is, you know, if you dont like the policy, change the policy, dont change the party. You know, you if the party. You know, if you if youre happy have youre not happy with it, have your heard. Once your voice heard. But once youre tent, as youre outside the tent, as lyndon famously said, Lyndon Johnson famously said, you a better you know, its a lot better being inside and actually changing. So wouldnt you just say to them, whats important to them, whats more important to you a councillor in ealing . You as a councillor in ealing . Is it more important to you that the right words are chosen by the right words are chosen by the Labour Party Leader to describe a conflict thousands of miles away, or is it more important to you that the people in your area get bins in your area get their bins emptied and roads repaired emptied and the roads repaired and lights working the and the lights working and the schools working . And the lights working and the sch dos working . And the lights working and the sch do you rking . And the lights working and the sch do you know im going to vote do you know im going to vote for that is for you . Because that is absolutely that the in absolutely it was that in the in the Council Offices , thats what the Council Offices, thats what id telling them. Id be telling them. Get your but i think you get your priorities right. Think there are some i think that there are some people the Labour Party People within the labour party who theyre not necessarily socialists, they just the socialists, they just see the labour party as a as a vector for their own sectarian politics. So its not really that surprising. Its labour and the snp, if you actually have a look at the people who signed this early day motion, you know, theyre even tories in their, you know, liberals oddly enough. The liberals oddly enough. But the reality there is a reality is that there is a something very strange on the left about this, which is this its sort of its what lenin used to call infantile leftism, where they just simply they dont actually think through dont actually think it through calling a ceasefire. You calling for a ceasefire. You remember horrible remember the horror, horrible statement rwanda. Statement about during rwanda. They said we had a ceasefire they said if we had a ceasefire and sent in food, wed still have bodies, but there have dead bodies, but there would well dead bodies. Would be well fed dead bodies. Think its ironic, dont you think its ironic, stephen, i want to press you on this, many people the this, that so many people on the left everybody left whove accused everybody they for being they disagree with for being fascists last six years, fascists for the last six years, for brexit example. And now on the the fascists, hamas. The side of the fascists, hamas. Can just say any argument can i just say any argument you have with person you have with any person anywhere, minute start anywhere, the minute they start using fascist, it, using the word fascist, it, theyve argument. Theyve lost the argument. Be one the hamas should be one of the only occasions the word only occasions where the word fascist. Absolutely does apply to hamas. If read their to hamas. If you read their charter. Yeah. Mean, in so far charter. Yeah. I mean, in so far as a modern group can be compared with fascism, its pretty as close as you can get. Pretty as close as you can get. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Its dictatorial. Its dictatorial. Its dictatorial. Its authoritarian , and its its authoritarian, and its anti semitic, stalinist genocide. All yeah. Yeah, i know what you mean. But weve got to get you mean. But weve got to get off the fence on this. I mean, to imply nobody is saying that everything that the state of israel has done 100 perfect, but everybody know, everybody but everybody i know, everybody with sanity one with an ounce of sanity and one brain cell realises that what hamas utterly and totally hamas did is utterly and totally beyond the pale. This actually of this is actually part of the problem the deflation the problem of the deflation of the word and all sorts of word fascist or and all sorts of accusations of hate. Because now when were actually confront and with people who do hold these views, weve discovered that there is a whole swathe of society that finds it very difficult to condemn the murder and kidnap of jewish babies. The bbc wont even yeah, and the bbc wont even call terrorists. Moving on call them terrorists. Moving on now to another story thats getting under collar. Getting us hot under the collar. The tycoon the Migrant Caravan van tycoon whos made, what, £25 million in one year from housing Asylum Seekers in his caravans , tax seekers in his caravans, tax payers money and Hotels Living it up. So hes basically this company has of him and his company has of him and his company is called mr king appropriately im sure he does feel like that at the moment have bought up hotels so they buy up these this is a this is a boom ing business so theyll buy up hotels in areas where they may not be full of tourists most of the time. And then steve and they go and say, right, you can put 300 people in this hotel. Its cost £500 its going to cost you £500 a night per person. But look, im ready for you. I to that picture i have to say, that picture of him, he looked like philip green. Do remember when he green. Do you remember when he was his yacht . But look, i was on his yacht . But look, i tell it really, really annoys me. Gets my goat this me. Really gets my goat on this one. First big one. One of his first Big Adventures or advances he adventures or advances was he actually over ex army actually took over an ex army camp pembrokeshire, now that camp in pembrokeshire, now that owned government. Mod owned by the government. The mod owned by the government. The mod owned earth didnt owned that. Why on earth didnt somebody in government say, weve place, will weve got this place, we will actually house actually use this to house asylum he have actually use this to house aseven he have actually use this to house aseven come he have actually use this to house aseven come into he have actually use this to house aseven come into it . He have actually use this to house aseven come into it . Do he have actually use this to house aseven come into it . Do we have to even come into it . Do we have nobody with an ounce of entrepreneurial spirit anywhere . Entrepreneurial spirit anywhere . Well, weve got him. Well, yeah, weve got him. Well, yeah, weve got him. No, i was going to say well, no, i was going to say in government. It the point, though, isnt it the point, though, amber, people like this, amber, that people like this, hes life riley. Hes lived the life of riley. Hes on suntan. Hes working on his suntan. There in the middle of storm babet. Hes the one raking it in because government have because the government have created for him created this opportunity for him to because we have an to clean up because we have an incompetent office and we incompetent home office and we can much he can talk about how much money he pays send his kids to school. Pays to send his kids to school. £44,000 a year. And all of that. But the reality is that we have created an industry in this country, and once people start profiting from that industry, it then incentivises those who want more immigration because its bringing them within their industry. Well , im not sure theres well, im not sure theres a logic in that because ppe was the other great scandal. Im not the other great scandal. Im not entirely sure that ppe incentivised the extension of covid, but oh, i dont. I totally i think youre absolutely encouraged people to keep others scared. Keep others scared. If you have an industry that is this lucrative. Of course , is this lucrative. Of course, from some peoples perspective, its going to create incentives , its going to create incentives, money. The thing thats wrong is that we have we have handled this situation so badly that we have an industry like this in the first place. This is just a man with the entrepreneurial spirit who has who has ridden the wave as it were. But the insanity of this is were looking at the completely the wrong end of the equation. The wrong end of the equation. Were looking at actually happens. It actually housing people. Be looking at people. We should be looking at the stage actually the first stage is actually making assessment and making an assessment and actually the case. At actually determine the case. At the. If i running the moment. If i was running some people smuggling gang in albania, come across the albania, id say come across the united keep your head United Kingdom, keep your head down. For three years, home down. For three years, the home office talk you office wont even talk to you for half years. And for three and a half years. And at end of that period, at the end of that period, youve put down roots. Youve got to family life, got the right to family life, and also youre home free. And this is about people who are war zones what are escaping war zones and what have now . A brand new war have we got now . A brand new war zone. This guy was given £1. 6 billion of taxpayers money, one yean billion of taxpayers money, one year, million day. Billion of taxpayers money, one year, ngoton day. Billion of taxpayers money, one year, ngot a day. Billion of taxpayers money, one year, ngot a contract. Hes got a contract. Hes got a contract. We have to leave it there. Ive been told to leave it there right. Ive been told to leave it there rigiwere to be talking were going to be talking in the next moments to form a the next few moments to form a minister. Baker on the minister. 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First youre to first thing if youre about to head watch out for head out the door, watch out for some rain on the roads some heavy rain on the roads could cause some problems, but the rain is clearing the heavy rain is clearing through as we through the through as we go through the morning. Othennise then across much wales and much of england, wales and northern therell be much of england, wales and northndry, therell be much of england, wales and northndry, bright therell be much of england, wales and northndry, bright therell into some dry, bright weather into the afternoon, but a different story for eastern scotland. Here it to be cloudy and wet it is going to be cloudy and wet through much the day. Through much of the day. Temperatures normal temperatures near normal for the time year, around 14, time of year, highs around 14, possibly 15 celsius in the south. A bit cooler further north later on today, we are going to see a band of rain pushing its way in from the southwest. Thats gradually going to make its way north eastwards, bringing heavy eastwards, bringing some heavy rain parts of northern rain across parts of northern ireland. In the south west ireland. Wales in the south west and later the midlands and then later into the midlands as through early hours as we go through the early hours of quite of thursday, staying quite cloudy parts cloudy and wet across parts of scotland result , it is scotland as a result, it is going to be a relatively mild night, not as chilly as night, not quite as chilly as last where some places did last night where some places did dip freezing as we go dip below freezing as we go through thursday. Then that rain continues push its way north continues to push its way north eastwards northern and eastwards into more northern and eastern parts england. Could eastern parts of england. Could be at across parts be heavy at times across parts of and notice some of east anglia. And notice some hefty following hefty showers following in behind some heavy downpours possible around south coastal parts. Some further rain parts. Also some further rain for eastern parts of scotland. That could be a little bit heavier than the rain were going see through today. Going to see through today. Temperatures perhaps going to see through today. Temp highers perhaps going to see through today. Temp higherthan perhaps going to see through today. Temp higher than todayrhaps going to see through today. Temp higher than today for s some rain. Rain. Good morning. Its 11 am. On wednesday, the 25th of october. This is britains newsroom on gb news with myself Martin Daubney and bev turner. So all aboard labour claimed that the conservatives are spending more than £800 per person per night on the bibby stockholm barge as the government has confirmed, the use hotels will slow down use of hotels will slow down significantly in the coming months. So will they all end up on expensive barges . On expensive barges . And in the middle east there is un tensions as the bloodshed continues. Israel demands that continues. Israel demands that the United Nations chief resigns after what they call his horrible hamas attack comments. Our security editor mike white has all the latest in tel aviv. Those comments by Antonio Guterres saying that the palestine indians had suffered 56 years of suffocating occupation. Have caused real anger here in israel , with many anger here in israel, with many saying the secretary general is no longer welcome here, axing the cap, the uks financial regulator has have formally scrapped the bank of bonus cap, removing legislation introduced by the eu will this bring in post brexit investment and Shamima Begums battle . Shamima begums battle . Well, its the second day of a court appeal over her british citizenship removal will have all the latest. All the latest. Heres some ways you cant believe that the Shamima Begum story is still rumbling on and its going to become something that i think is going to be totemic to the next general election. Yeah , it really is. Yeah, it really is. Yeah, it really is. They might just kick it into the long grass maybe until after the long grass maybe until after the election. Such the election. Its such a complicated issue. Vaiews gbnews. Com not. Vaiews gbnews. Com or not. Maybe you think. First lets you think. First though, lets have your news. Have a listen to your news. Heres addison. Heres ray addison. Good morning. Its 11 01. Heres ray addison. Good morning. Its11 01. Our top stories this hour. Israel intensified airstrikes on gaza overnight as World Leaders called for a pause in fighting for humanitarian aid. The military says it targeted hamas infrastructure following one of the deadliest days for palestinians. The Israeli Defence forces say a terrorist cell was also identified. Naval patrols Hamas Terrorists exited through a tunnel shaft on the beach in gaza and were killed when they tried to enter israeli territory. There are growing territory. There are growing concerns that the conflict could spread across the region. Leaders of terrorist groups reportedly to met discuss a so called resistance axis against israel. Lebanons against israel. Lebanons hezbollah leader is said to have held talks with palestinian militant factions. Hamas and Palestinian Islamic jihad said the United Nations is warning the United Nations is warning the humanitarian crisis in gaza is deepening , with more than is deepening, with more than a third of hospitals being forced to close because of damage or a lack of fuel. Doctors say patients are showing signs of disease caused by overcrowding and poor sanitation action. The un says it may have to halt its operations because fuel is actually running out. Israel blocked its delivery to prevent hamas from seizing supplies. Hamas from seizing supplies. Well, meanwhile, the un secretary general has reiterated calls for a ceasefire to allow the Safe Delivery of aid and tonio gutierrez says hes concerned by what he called clear violation of humanitarian law. The Palestinian Red Crescent confirmed eight trucks crossed the rafah border yesterday , but the un says yesterday, but the un says dozens more are still waiting to enter from egypt. Im deeply concerned about the clear violation of International Humanitarian law that we are witnessing in gaza. Witnessing in gaza. Let me be clear that no party to an Armed Conflict is above International Humanitarian law , International Humanitarian law, so it is important to also recognise the attacks by hamas did not happen in a vacuum. The did not happen in a vacuum. The Palestinian People have been subjected to 56 years of suffocating occupation. They suffocating occupation. They have seen their land steadily devoured by settlements and plagued by violence. Plagued by violence. Speaking on gb news, immigration minister Robert Jenrick has criticised the secretary generals comments. Secretary generals comments. Well, i thought the secretary generals comments were wrong. They were unacceptable all and they were undiplomatic. He they were undiplomatic. He implied that there was a justification given for what happened to israel two weeks ago. So there is no justification for murderous, barbaric terrorist attacks on innocent civilians, children being killed, burnt, kidnapped , being killed, burnt, kidnapped, chopped. You know, nobody or nobody should be trying to make a justification for that. Mps are expected to vote later over whether peter bone should be suspended from the commons after a Parliamentary Panel found that the member for wellingborough committed acts of bullying and one act of Sexual Misconduct against a male staff member back in 2012 and 2013. If the recommend six week suspension is approved , it could suspension is approved, it could trigger a recall petition and lead to a by election. Mr bone denies the allegations and has vowed to continue representing his constituents. A panel is due his constituents. A panel is due to decide whether five met Police Officers are guilty of gross misconduct over the stop and search of two black athletes , ricardo dos santos and his partner Bianca Williams were stopped in their car in london in 2020. Nothing was found and no arrests were made , with the no arrests were made, with the pair publicly accusing the force of racism. All five officers have denied any wrongdoing. A have denied any wrongdoing. A watchdog says its worst nightmares have come true after thousands of ai generated images showing child abuse were shared on a dark web forum. The on a dark web forum. The Internet Watch Foundation says criminals are now using the faces and bodies of real children who have appeared in abuse imagery to create new images. In a abuse imagery to create new images. In a single month. Abuse imagery to create new images. In a single month. The images. In a single month. The bwf said it investigated over 11,000 shared pictures. It said 11,000 shared pictures. It said the most convincing images would be difficult for even trained analysts to distinguish from real photos, and it would become harder for police to protect children in an all British Mission could be heading into orbit for the first time ever, the Uk Space Agency has signed an agreement with axiom space. Thats an american based firm, to try to make it happen. Astronauts would spend up to two weeks carrying out scientific experiments and participate in educational activities. This is educational activities. This is gb news across the uk on tv , in gb news across the uk on tv, in your car, on Digital Radio and on your Smart Speaker by saying play gb news. Now lets get back to martin and. Bev to martin and. Bev good morning. Its 1106. To martin and. Bev good morning. Its1106. This is britains newsroom thank you for joining me and martin this forjoining me and martin this morning. So the government has confirmed use hotels to confirmed the use of hotels to accommodate migrants will slow down the coming down significantly in the coming months. For immigration months. Minister for immigration robert spoke gb Robert Jenrick spoke with gb news earlier. News earlier. Weve worked hard over the last put in place last year to put in place simpler and more appropriate forms of accommodation like disused military sites and barges. And its to that kind of barges. And its to that kind of accommodation that the Illegal Migrants will now be moved. And so we can close the first 50. And i hope if we can keep making progress with stopping the boats, there will be more closures to come in the months ahead. But the claims that housing Asylum Seekers on barges cost £800 per person per night, is this even a realistic alternative . Well, norman baker is former liberal democrat minister and joins us now. Ive got so many questions about this story, norman, and i feel like Robert Jenrick didnt really answer them, like why are they able to close them now . We havent seen particularly significant number of reduction in people coming oven of reduction in people coming over, perhaps weather over, except perhaps weather related. And if he does kick related. And if he does kick them all out, where are they all going to go . Well, theyre very fair questions. I mean, the fact of the matter is that have the matter is that they have slowed down because of weather, not of any other action not because of any other action from the government. Not because of any other action frorsecondly, zrnment. Not because of any other action frorsecondly, the|ent. Not because of any other action frorsecondly, the government is secondly, the government is right theory, think, right in theory, i think, to look use of look to discontinue use of expensive to Expensive Hotels. Thats got to be sensible public purse be sensible for the public purse and to use alternative accommodation asuitable accommodation of a suitable standard however, what standard. However, you know what the government has done far the government has done so far is announce that they intend to slow this down. I think it was 12 of the figure of hotel reductions over a period of time. So nothings actually happened is happened yet. All there is a plan which may or may not come to so i dont think to fruition. So i dont think people have much confidence people have very much confidence that will happen. But, you know, the problem is twofold. The basic problem is twofold. One home office is one is that the home office is fantastically inefficient at processing claims from people who are claiming asylum, who by the way, arent Illegal Migrants, as the minister says, they are people claiming asylum. They become illegal if theyre found not have and found not to have a case and refuse to the country. So refuse to leave the country. So the office is grotesquely the home office is grotesquely slow these claims. Slow at processing these claims. Theyve many people theyve got far too many people here waiting to be processed who should dealt with should have been dealt with months not years ago. In months ago, if not years ago. In some secondly, weve some cases. And secondly, weve lost to return lost the ability to return people to other European Union countries people to other European Union count were people to other European Union countwere in people to other European Union count were in the people to other European Union countwere in the European Union when were in the European Union. You all know, there. Martin as you all know, there was belfast agreement was no belfast agreement which enabled us to return people to other European Countries and indeed the eu itself had agreements non countries agreements with non eu countries to return people outside of those weve those borders. But weve lost that those borders. But weve lost tha but youd also be aware, but as youd also be aware, norman, membership means norman, if eu membership means having take an allotted share having to take an allotted share of illegal Asylum Seekers, whatever want to call them, whatever you want to call them, entering and that number entering the eu and that number would outweigh the number entering the uk illegally if we were to be a member of the eu. I digress. £800 a night. Yes for digress. £800 a night. Yes for a hotel. I dont know if we got the picture here, but i looked earlier. This is the same price as the deluxe king suite at the savoy hotel on mayfair. Its a grotesque waste of money on that. We can agree. Do you think this is the tories getting into election mode now . Are they getting tough on this . But elatedly because they realise that if they dont, theyre toast. Well, look, i mean, rishi sunak has made his famous five pledges, and when they were made, if you recall, commentators well, these commentators said, well, these are straw men because so hes knock down. Of course theyre going five targets. Going to meet the five targets. He claim success. The most he will claim success. The most difficult perhaps, his difficult one, perhaps, was his stop mantra. Yeah, stop the boats mantra. Yeah, well, he hasnt stopped the boats. He hasnt stopped people coming in the country this boats. He hasnt stopped people cothis; in the country this boats. He hasnt stopped people cothis is1 the country this boats. He hasnt stopped people cothis is youreountry this boats. He hasnt stopped people cothis is youre right, this this boats. He hasnt stopped people cothis is youre right, this 15115 is this is youre right, this is pre election mode. This is an attempt recognise they have attempt to recognise they have failed this major attempt and failed on this major attempt and theyre to spit it now to theyre trying to spit it now to say theyre doing something about it. We dont hear awful what we dont hear an awful lot liberal democrats lot about the liberal democrats anymore, norman and apart from obviously your good self, but what how would how how would the liberal democrats going to handle this . And similarly, the same question for labour how do you handle this issue when you are meant be ideologically are meant to be ideologically welcoming to people who are escaping persecution , etcetera . Escaping persecution, etcetera . And yet it is so unpopular with the British Public and comes out number one on polls repeatedly as the issue that affect most people. Well, i mean, people dont want people to come here without reason. Without good reason. However , this this country however, this this country has a long tradition of being accepting who are accepting of people who are coming areas where theyre coming from areas where theyre under of death and under threat of death and persecution. Is running a bit patience is running a bit thin that now. Thin on that now. Mean, example, the but i mean, for example, the british have been british people have been very good people from good about people coming from ukraine. Theyve been very welcoming also hong welcoming on those and also hong kong before. So i think it depends how its actually presented. Mean, im presented. But look, i mean, im not to speak to lib not here to speak to the lib dems. Im longer an active dems. Im no longer an active member of the lib but member of the lib dems. But i imagine what needs to be done is to first of all, speed up the process whereby people are assessed people who have assessed so that people who have no to be here can be no cause to be here can be deported very quickly. That the point that but isnt that the point that this becoming wedge issue this is becoming a wedge issue because yourself because people like yourself will to clear the will say we need to clear the backlog . Thats backlog . Well, thats whats happening. The backlog is being cleared really is it. Cleared and that really is it. And that point, asylum and at that point, those Asylum Seekers eligible work or seekers are eligible to work or claim benefits. Should they. Seekers are eligible to work or claim still efits. Should they. Seekers are eligible to work or claim stillefits. In iould they. Seekers are eligible to work or claim stillefits. In a uld they. Seekers are eligible to work or claim stillefits. In a free. Hey. What still remain in a free hotel, even though they have the rights effectively of de facto british rights effectively of de facto briithey shouldnt. This not they shouldnt. This is not a lib position, i dont think. Lib dem position, i dont think. But taken the view but ive always taken the view that who come here should that people who come here should be required to work and they should we should pay their way and we shouldnt be supporting people on and i think its on the state. And i think its quite wrong that are left quite wrong that people are left sometimes destitution for sometimes in destitution for months, years, to months, if not years, unable to work the state, work legally with the state, paying work legally with the state, paying for sometimes in paying for them sometimes in expensive they were Expensive Hotels if they were actually work do. Actually given some work to do. And have come here and many people have come here to asylum doctors to claim asylum or doctors or engineers skilled engineers who are skilled people, we could actually use the majority. The vast majority. Has to be said, norman, it has to be said, are that well, it depends are not that well, it depends where they come from. If look at people who if you look at people who come from countries where there if you look at people who con severe countries where there if you look at people who con severe human es where there if you look at people who con severe human es wh issues re are severe human rights issues such middle east, often such as the middle east, often they do have those skills. People eastern people who come from eastern europe, large, albanian europe, by and large, albanian places. Got places. Weve now got an agreement with albania, dont have so we have to have those skills. So we have to be to separate those who are genuine, for genuine, genuine claimants for refugees. Who refugees. And most people who come by the way, have come here, by the way, have their upheld those their claims upheld and those who no reason. Who are here for no good reason. And separate those and we have to separate those and deal with those. And i think the british people would be more tolerant who have tolerant of the people who have genuine the people genuine concerns if the people who were disposed of who dont were disposed of outside country. Who dont were disposed of out what country. Who dont were disposed of outwhat aboutntry. Who dont were disposed of out what about those arrive what about those who arrive in no in britain with no documentation, sometimes documentation, which sometimes could many as 75 arriving could be as many as 75 arriving here who claim that here illegally, who claim that theyre surgeons, claim theyre surgeons, who claim that theyre surgeons, who claim that theyre rocket scientists. What do well, its do we do then . Well, its difficult because people sometimes of sometimes theyre frauds, of course, a genuine. Course, but sometimes a genuine. Theyve had flee the and theyve had to flee the country documentation by country without documentation by nefarious out of nefarious routes to get out of the to save their lives. The country to save their lives. So dont arrive with so they dont always arrive with documentation. And its difficult to assess that. But, you we have be, on the you know, we have to be, on the one hand, rigorous to assess these people, assess them quickly and as i say, return those who want no reason to be here. And integrate those who do have a reason to be here. But the returns rate is so desperately, desperately low. Desperately, desperately low. Yes, i know. Its a tiny, tiny percentile arrive. Percentile of those who arrive. Surely the best surely you could agree the best solution and this is why the liberal democrats and the labour party, way, are silent on party, by the way, are silent on it, to stop the boats it, is to stop the boats arriving in the first place. Mean, the boats well, look, i mean, the boats are boats are symptom of are the boats are a symptom of an problem. There an an earlier problem. There an earlier problem that havent earlier problem that we havent got agreement with european got agreement with the European Union stop them Union Countries to stop them crossing thats Union Countries to stop them crossi one. Thats Union Countries to stop them crossione. And thats Union Countries to stop them crossione. And earlierits point one. And an earlier problem that we, the west, have in caused the problems. £500 billion has gone to france hasnt done much to solve. I know, i know it hasnt. And thats thats a failure of negotiation side to negotiation on this side to reach a proper agreement with the french. Really is. But the french. It really is. But you if we we had you know, if we were if we had a better relationship with the European Union, then it may be thered be more to thered be more willing to cooperate i mean, cooperate with us. Look i mean, one the reasons got all one of the reasons weve got all of this migration and people of this migration now and people looking because of looking for refuge is because of the wars. The number of wars. Go back to israel at lets go back to israel at the moment. Theres some footage which has just arrived here. We understand it is footage of understand that it is footage of hamas being blown out hamas fighters being blown out of water by the israeli of the water by the Israeli Defence force. Its a little defence force. Its a little difficult to make out. It looks like it was perhaps an invasion via via the sea onto the beach. And it looks like snipers taking out individuals. Yeah. So i think this is footage of that original invasion on october the seventh. This is, if you remember the paragliders by air. There was a land invasion when the when the border was breached, the iron wall and also added to that, there was a sea invasion on from palestine , from the gaza strip palestine, from the gaza strip into israel. And this is a part of them releasing footage of older footage to show this is from last night, bazball. And this is from last night. This is them arriving last night. So norman, clearly the invasion of israel by hamas is still ongoing i i i think it is. And there are serious questions about the israeli military, to be honest with you, as to how this is allowed to happen in the first place. You would think they would have been aware of what was they werent. Was happening and they werent. Obviously, in obviously, what happened in israel was was grotesque and horrific. Can no horrific. And there can be no justification whatsoever for the murder of innocent civilians. But people are but equally and the people are now it right that now saying is it right that israel is bombing apparently indiscriminately in gaza over a thousand children, i believe, have died in the gaza strip since israel started its action . You know, i no way you can defend hamas. There are appalling organisation, but its difficult to defend israel, the Israeli Government and the way theyre responding, be honest theyre responding, to be honest with theyre doing with you. And theyre not doing themselves any favours. They need to get World Opinion on their President Biden their side. And President Biden said, in 911 was said, look, in 911 was a horrific act for america, but we overreacted and we got it wrong. Overreacted and we got it wrong. And he that to the israelis and he said that to the israelis as a friend and just listen to listen to President Biden. Right. Thank you. All right. Thank you. All right. Thank you. To interrupt norman. We have to interrupt you we have some breaking you there. We have some breaking news that is a former news now and that is a former Police Officer whos been sentenced life at cardiff sentenced to life at Cardiff Crown court. Louis edwards pled guilty to more sex more than 100 child sex offences. He incited young girls aged between 10 and 16 to send him degrading pictures and videos over snapchat. Whilst he videos over snapchat. Whilst he was a serving Police Officer and he refused to attend court to hear his own sentencing. Hear his own sentencing. Lets get the latest now from mark white in tel aviv. Mark white in tel aviv. Good morning, mark. Are you there . Hello, mark. Weve just weve actually just seen some footage which weve seen for the first time. I dont know whether youve even had had eyes on this footage yet. It appears to be from last night. Hamas terrorists approaching the coast of israel and being taken out by the idf. Can you confirm or just the idf. Can you confirm orjust elucidate what it is, mark . Yes, i can confirm this was an incident that unfolded north of gaza yesterday when Israeli Defence forces jet fighters and also naval vessels attacked a number of Hamas Terrorists who had left a tunnel system just in northern gaza and were trying to gain access via the sea to ukip, which is a settlement just north of gaza with a view , the of gaza with a view, the israelis say, to carrying out a terrorist attack there. So they respond with their naval vessels and with aerial strikes and killed those individuals , killed those individuals, schools involved in that. But it was clearly a very worrying development and an indication , development and an indication, an, that hamas still has significant capabilities because this came on the back of the largest bar , raj, of rockets, largest bar, raj, of rockets, into the central is trail from gaza. Yesterday today we were just at that hospital where the two released hostages were being treated. Yesterday when the sirens went off, dozens of rockets coming in towards central tel aviv. That were intercepted by by the iron dome missile system. We heard the explosions of the missiles being intercepted and the supersonic booms of the iron dome missiles as they passed the speed of sound heading for those rockets. Sound heading for those rockets. One rocket did get through and badly damaged a Community Just in the northeast of tel aviv. But an indication that attempted incursion into northern israel, those very significant rocket barrages tell you that despite this intensification of the aerial war, the strikes against hamas targets in gaza, that they still have some very significant capabilities. And that, of course, adds the other question, bnngsin course, adds the other question, brings in the other dimension here. If they are not degrade ing hamas to the extent that they wanted to from the air, then that makes a Ground Invasion. It seems inevitable. Invasion. It seems inevitable. Well, yesterday the israeli Prime Minister, benjamin netanyahu, said that ground war was imminent. Netanyahu, said that ground war was imminent. We know theres a was imminent. We know theres a lot of pressure, though, from governments around the world to try to hold off, to allow the hostage negotiation to continue. But israel certainly does want to progress with the second stage of this war against hamas as soon as possible. As soon as possible. Mark, do we take it as good news . Is that any sort of Ground Invasion by israel hasnt yet happenedin invasion by israel hasnt yet happened in gaza . Does that suggest that there is diplomacy happening behind the scenes . And of course, we had the release of the two hostages yesterday. They. I think theres no doubt that the hostage situation is a major factor in why this ground incursion has not happened. As yet. Youve got hamas just dribbling out hostages a couple at a time, every few days. If they continue to do that over a penod they continue to do that over a period of time, were talking months. Now. I dont think israel will sit back and allow that to be the case. But clearly, its very alive to the request from the United States and other governments just to try to allow as much time as possible for any hostage negotiations into arrestingly, the qatari Prime Minister has said today that they are in the advanced stages of negotiations to release more hostages. Yesterday, officials st giles and sources were saying to me that this was straight out of the hamas playbook, though they are just playing for time and the longer, of course, they have, the more time they have. Have, the more time they have. To really enforce their positions to lay traps for the israelis when those forces eventually go into gaza proper. Eventually go into gaza proper. Okay, mark, thank you so much for doing such a brilliant job out there. Weve got loads of your emails coming in. Were going to get to those in just a moment. Thank also to moment. And thank you also to norman contributing norman baker for contributing this still to this morning. Now, still to come, cap on bonuses for come, the cap on bonuses for bankers is set to be scrapped. I mean, its a good day if youre a i suppose, on a banker, i suppose, on a massive bonus. Good for brexit its a good day for brexit because werent allowed to do because we werent allowed to do this an eu directive this under an eu directive brought in in 2008. Well, there you go. Dont go anywhere. Britains anywhere. You with britains newsroom news gb news radio. Welcome back. Its 1125. Youre with britains newsroom on gb news with myself, Martin Daubney and bev turner. Its a very good news day. If you are a banker, not sure what it means for the rest of us, though, because the uk is going to scrap up the need for a cap on bankers bonuses. Have i got that right . Martin daubney you have initially it was a 100 cap on the on their salary and that was an eu directive. So the on their salary and that was an eu directive. So is this a post brexit Success Story . The man who will know is Liam Halligan who is here right. Liam, explain this to us. What no banker bonus for me. No banker bonus for me. What . What was what do we have before and why has it changed . So you remember the 2008 financial crisis was when the world went to hell in a handcart and Bankers Investment analysts taking massive risks crashed the global economy. Banking sector had to be bailed out by taxpayers. Were frankly still paying taxpayers. Were frankly still paying for that. The World Economy has never really got back into gear since 2008, if were honest. And in 2008, the were honest. And in 2008, the eu launched a directive to try and rein in bankers bonuses. It eventually came in in 2014 and of course, that applied to the uk and bonuses not just for bankers but in the whole of the Financial Services industry were limited to of salary , so limited to 100 of salary, so people werent incentivised to take massive risks. Now that were outside of the eu, we dont have to comply with that. So you remember the liz truss, Kwasi Kwarteng mini budget last autumn . Most of what they autumn . Most of what they announced in that budget was scrapped. They announced some things i thought were pretty good. They announced that they didnt want to put up corporation tax. Its since gone up from 19 25. They announced up from 19 to 25. They announced they to do reforms of they wanted to do reforms of some rules some really nasty tax rules called ir35 , which make it very called ir35, which make it very difficult if youre a self employed person. Like a lot of journalists are, but also, you know, tradespeople and plumbers all the of it. Plumbers and all the rest of it. One of things they also one of the things they also include truss and kwasi include liz truss and Kwasi Kwarteng, was that they wanted to eu cap bankers to scrap the eu cap on bankers bonuses of post brexit bonuses as a kind of post brexit move. Now that is to going happen the end of this month. Happen at the end of this month. What do think of it . I have to what do i think of it . I have to say i think the timing of this is politically really tin eared. I think it looks really bad. You i think it looks really bad. You know, a lot of these people in Financial Services, they make hundreds of thousands of pounds a year or they get millions or hundreds thousands of pounds hundreds of thousands of pounds a and of course, many of a year and of course, many of them get a lot more. Now, i think when they talk about brexit , we should be brexit bonuses, we should be doing like, you know, doing things like, you know, making for small making it easier for Small Business people to get through red tape. There should be more incentives in in, you know , many incentives in in, you know, many aspects of industry where i think the eu has been too cautious with its precautionary principle and Kemi Badenoch actually the business secretary shes been highlighting today and i think this is a good idea for the fact that over the last couple of years as post brexit, britain has actually attracted more venture capital, more inward investment than any other eu country. Quotes. Despite brexit. B rexit. Brexit. Now those in favour of this would argue in a global scramble for talent, it will allow us now to get the best bankers from frankfurt, from paris, from singapore, from hong kong and therefore boost the chances of therefore boost the chances of the city, which raises more tax , the city, which raises more tax, which means more money for the exchequer. So there is a fiscal exchequer. So there is a fiscal argument to say this is a good thing for the economy. There is indeed. And of course we have to represent the other side and the other side is exactly as you say. Martin Financial Services is our biggest export. You know, biggest export. But, you know, Britain Centre of the World Financial Centre of the world under many headings london. Under many headings in london. But really want people but do you really want people who massively juiced up, who are massively juiced up, frankly, to take enormous risks with, you know, banking deposits , with the savings and investments of ordinary people and, you know , look, ive worked and, you know, look, ive worked in Financial Services. I used to in Financial Services. I used to be a partner in an Asset Management company. You know, im a pro market person, an unlike almost any other journalist in this business. I actually have genuine hands on business experience , managing business experience, managing hundreds of millions of dollars and pounds in Financial Markets. And i would say this Financial Markets are really fragile at the moment. Weve just had the head of hsbc, one of the worlds top ten biggest banks, say saying that he thinks noel quinn there is a reckoning coming because governments have taken on so much debt in industries, have taken on so much debt. Do have taken on so much debt. Do we really want supercharged risk takers now fuelled by massive bonuses that make them feel immortal , as bonuses that make them feel immortal, as if they can bonuses that make them feel immortal , as if they can never immortal, as if they can never do anything wrong . Or do we want steady as she goes , people. And steady as she goes, people. And as for this argument that the city creates all kind of money and wealth for the uk. Yeah theres lots of good jobs, you know, middle management jobs, you know, support services, jobs. There lots you know, support services, ongood there lots you know, support services, ongood jobs, there lots you know, support services, ongood jobs, buthere lots you know, support services, ongood jobs, but isre lots you know, support services, ongood jobs, but is a lots you know, support services, ongood jobs, but is a massive of good jobs, but is a massive Financial Services industry really want . If Financial Services industry really want . If at Financial Services industry really want . If at least really what we want . If at least once a generation when it crashes the entire economy, as it did in 2000, just also makes you know, it makes me worried for me, but it makes me worried that if there is some massive reckoning coming around the corner, of of corner, some sort of reset of our Financial System , im not our Financial System, im not sure i want the people who were in positions of right in the positions of power right now to be creaming off as much as they possibly before for as they possibly can before for the cards come tumbling the house of cards come tumbling down. Agree. Look, im the house of cards come tumbling dnwell agree. Look, im the house of cards come tumbling dnwell known gree. Look, im the house of cards come tumbling dnwell known financial look, im a well known financial journalist. Have to be journalist. I have to be careful. Not saying careful. Im not saying the house of cards is going to come tumbling down. What i am saying is you look at the is that if you look at the valuations the valuations of a lot of the worlds leading stock markets at the theyre very over the moment, theyre very over valued. We call valued. You know, what we call price earnings ratios. What am price earnings ratios. What i am saying is that youve now got really serious run really serious people who run massive wall ing, that massive banks. Wall ing, that theres much froth in the theres too much froth in the market, too much excess, not least theres so much least because theres so much geopolitical risk around it. Weve got to move on. But the next story makes think of next story makes me think of you, truss. Shes your mate. You, liz truss. Shes your mate. Would she be any good in the jungle . I dont know if shes my mate. Shes a leading conservative. Its my. Its my job follow the movers job to follow. Follow the movers and her a little. And shakers her a little. I really dont. Well, she listens to you. Well, she listens to you. Listen to a lot of people. Listen to me, i dont despise me, beth. I dont despise anyone. No, seriously, im an ofcom regulated journalist. A lot people want my advice and lot of people want my advice and a lot of seek my advice. A lot of people seek my advice. But dont advise anyone. But i dont advise anyone. Certainly for money. Certainly not for money. Let me rephrase well, let me let me rephrase that, you good that, then. Would you look good in and im in a bikini . And im a celebrity. Me out of here. Celebrity. Get me out of here. Well, im not going to well, she im not going to answer that. Thats Liam Halligan. Never speechless. Glad did that. Im so glad i did that. Theres just no good way to answer there . Right. Answer that, is there . Right. Listen mp. Get me out of listen im an mp. Get me out of here. This is what were discussing. Liz truss might be heading jungle the heading for the jungle in the next im a celebrity. Next series of im a celebrity. Get me out of here. Would you look in a bikini . I cant look good in a bikini . I cant believe im asking that a believe im asking that of a former minister believe im asking that of a forrier minister believe im asking that of a forri think minister believe im asking that of a forri think mmight a lot i think that might get a lot of Daily Telegraph of elderly Daily Telegraph readers. What excited . A little hot under the collar and unstoppable shift. Energy the International Energy agency says the number of electric will almost electric cars will jump almost ten fold by the end of the decade. Numbered decade. Are the days numbered for humble diesel and petrol car . All of that and much more after your mornings news with ray allison. Ray allison. Good morning. Its 1132. Ray allison. Good morning. Its1132. Our top stories. A former south top stories. A former south wales Police Officer has been jailed for life with a minimum of 12 years for Sexual Offences against children. Lewis edwards used fake social media accounts and posed as a teenager to groom more than 200 young girls online. He forced his victims to take indecent videos and images of themselves , which he secretly of themselves, which he secretly recorded and used them as blackmail. The judge says he used different tactics to deceive the children. Deceive the children. The defendant had a pattern of behaviour where he made onune of behaviour where he made online contact with a girl , online contact with a girl, sometimes pretending to be someone that she knew, sometimes making contact through friends of friends. The defendant of friends. The defendant pretended to be a boy of similar age. He groomed his victims by psychologically manipulating them until he had gained control over them. He would often be friendly and complimentary , friendly and complimentary, pretending an interest in his victims and their lives, gaining their trust and building relationships with them. Israel intensified airstrikes on gaza overnight as World Leaders called for a pause in fighting for humanitarian aid. The military says it targeted hamas infrastructure for including a weapons warehouse. Including a weapons warehouse. The Israeli Defence forces also says the navy spotted terrorists exiting a tunnel onto a beach on the strip. They were killed when they tried to enter israeli territory by sea. Well, there territory by sea. Well, there are growing concerns that the conflict could spread across the region. Leaders of terrorist groups reportedly met to discuss a so called resistance axis against israel and how they could achieve victory in gaza. Lebanons hezbollah leader is said to have held talks with palestinian militant factions. Hamas and islamic jihad. Palestinian militant factions. 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Rosalind gold proudly sponsors the gb news financial report. Report. So still to come this morning, its day two of three of the court appeal over Shamima Begums citizenship remain level. Is she . Britains problem . Well, its a big talking point. Well have that after the break. This is britains co weeknights from. Six very co weeknights from. Six very good morning. Its 1139 with britains newsroom on gb news with me bev turner and Martin Daubney this morning. Lets see what youve morning. Lets see what youve all been saying at home. Yeah, people have been getting very hot under the collar about flooding and whos to blame. And we had a report from rotherham earlier on and michael why dont we michael says this why dont we just the rivers . Just dredge the rivers . Were out the so no ones out of the eu. So no ones stopping us dredging the rivers would deepen and get rid of would deepen them and get rid of all the rubbish in them. All the rubbish dumped in them. Its sense. And michael, its common sense. And michael, thats catch on. Thats why ill never catch on. Absolutely. And leslie well, absolutely. And leslie says, i think your guest rose hit the nail on the head. That was rose, who was in rotherham. It house. Kent, who it was her house. Rose kent, who was she said, were was damaged. And she said, were constantly new homes, constantly building new homes, including which including on flood plains, which means nowhere to means the water has nowhere to go. Its not rocket science. Lets just stop building so many new of them are new houses. Most of them are ugly we do houses, though. Yeah. Annette also is similarly unforgiving. She says. Im people im sorry to hear that people have by storm have been affected by storm babet, but i dont think the government should have to bail them i to but them out. I hate to say it, but its fault for living there. Thats a bit harsh. Thats a bit harsh. It is very harsh. It is very harsh. Well, sheila has said bev is right. I always an email right. I always love an email that starts like that. I cant lie. Send them in yourself. Send them in yourself. No, my doesnt know. No, my mum doesnt know. Councils drains councils dont clean the drains anymore. Isnt anymore. Climate change isnt to blame flooding. Its blame for the flooding. Its lazy. Government bail them lazy. Local government bail them out appropriate out is the appropriate expression, it . Expression, isnt it . Isnt it . Its good that. Yeah, you its very good that. Yeah, you may heard that stephen may have heard that Stephen Pound has joined miles. May have heard that stephen potalso as joined miles. May have heard that stephen potalso as joi you miles. May have heard that stephen potalso as joiyou cantiles. May have heard that stephen potalso as joiyou cant build also says you cant build on floodplains then complain floodplains and then complain when flooded out. When we get flooded out. Somebody needs to sort this government well, absolutely i we do. We do. You know, what bothers we do. You know, what bothers me as well is that the trouble is we sit here and talk about, you know, poor government or poor local councils. It all poor local councils. And it all seems sort of untangible , seems quite sort of untangible, doesnt it . You know, bad government doesnt always lead to people having terrible existence. And then you see existence. And then you see someones front flooded and someones front room flooded and all stuff washed away all their stuff washed away like this is implications of poor this is the implications of poor Decision Making when it affects people like that. No, its the wrong sort of rain. Oh, we heard. Therese coffey say earlier, weve heard that, you know, and im weve got the rain. Im sorry, weve got the rain. The rain from the west is all sorted. But this devious, sneaky, two faced, crafty anticipation has emerged from the the beast of the the east. Its the beast of the east. You know, the rain has it got no respect whatsoever. Its awful, isnt it . Well, thats thats the okay. Well, thats thats the beast from the from left beast from the from the left hand side the studio there. Hand side of the studio there. Stephen, pam, more of him in a minute. But before that, stephen, day of stephen, its the second day of a three appeal over british a three day appeal over british citizenship of Shamima Begum. Last conservative mp and last night, conservative mp and fellow news presenter jacob fellow gb news presenter Jacob Rees Mogg explained what he feels the outcome should be. She was a british citizen born and it seems to me that if she committed criminal acts, the place for her to be tried for them is here. She is our responsibility as a nation. Responsibility as a nation. Controversial. Some of you might say. I think i am with him, though, emma. I mean, if were going to stick to the rule of law and she was a british citizen, she broke the law. I want her here to be tried. Go. I dont often disagree with Jacob Rees Mogg, but i do on this. I think i think that this. I think that i think that it was right for the home secretary to strip her of her citizenship the first place. Citizenship in the first place. Its within the powers the its within the powers of the home secretary do for home secretary to do that for reasons security, home secretary to do that for reaspublic security, home secretary to do that for reaspublic cannot security, home secretary to do that for reaspublic cannot be ecurity, home secretary to do that for reaspublic cannot be made� , home secretary to do that for reaspublic cannot be made aware the public cannot be made aware of all of the intelligence that was involved in making that decision. Cannot decision. On if you cannot strip someone citizenship for someone of their citizenship for joining a terrorist organisation, earth does organisation, what on earth does that i dont that power exist for . I dont buy the fact that she because she was 15 years old, that that means that she was too young to make a responsible judgement about what she chose to go and do. This wasnt a gap year. She chose to join a terrorist organisation. She knew exactly what doing at the time. What she was doing at the time. There were videos the there were videos of the beheadings of journalists, of aid all over the aid workers, all over the internet. Of course, she knew what she was going to join join. Ijust what she was going to join join. I just simply dont buy it. And actually, just to quote quickly from lawyers in this from one of the lawyers in this case, that begum contends case, says that begum contends that the National Security that National Security should be National Security should not be a trump well, im sorry, a trump card. Well, im sorry, but that it should. She but i think that it should. She has citizenship. It was has dual citizenship. It was legal of legal to strip her of her citizenship. This is all citizenship. This this is all part of the Legal Process to decide whether or not that was a legal decision. And in the legal decision. And in the previous special immigration appeal committee, she lost the case. This has gone to the court of appeal. Its obviously going to drag out through the courts because thats the proper process. But i think it was absolutely right to strip her of her citizenship, and i dont think that she should come back and be tried here. Think should come back i think she should come back and the music. Really and and face the music. Really and truly. I think the idea that shes now having as a defence, that involved that she was involved in human trafficking, risible, trafficking, that is risible, that disgusting because in that is disgusting because in many the trafficker many ways she was the trafficker who other two people who took the other two people with her. But you remember with her. But do you remember the bell case, who was the mary bell case, who was a young woman who was killed, another child, and she was revived, she revived, string her up and she you was capable of you she was capable of redemption. Can i mean, redemption. You can i mean, obviously, the james bulger case, young one of case, two young boys, one of them out to be a them turned out to be a wrongun. I honestly wrongun. But i honestly think people possibility of people there is a possibility of redemption here. And i think the fact shes whats fact that shes there, whats going shes going going to happen is shes going to the of her life to spend the rest of her life there. Shes had two miscarriages. Lost two miscarriages. Shes lost two children. Women she miscarriages. Shes lost two childiwith women she miscarriages. Shes lost two childiwith have women she miscarriages. Shes lost two childiwith have beenymen she miscarriages. Shes lost two childiwith have been dead. ;he miscarriages. Shes lost two childiwith have been dead. You went with have been dead. You know, i honestly think that if we in this we stand for anything in this country, actually giving country, its actually giving people decisions. People a fair decisions. Have consequences. Decisions have consequences. Im fact that im sorry, but the fact that shes painted, anybody shes being painted, anybody else, year old else, shes being 15 year old girl. Well, i mean, if she comes back here, shell be a celebrity. She might even end up on a celebrity. Get me out on im a celebrity. Get me out of with liz truss. You of here with liz truss. You never know. But she dancing on ice. I the is ice. She i think the fact is that she painting herself and that she is painting herself and being as the victim here being painted as the victim here when is that she when the reality is that she went join genocidal went to join a genocidal terrorist organisation that trafficked sex trafficked jihadis. Its way above the jihadis. But its way above the age of criminal responsibility. Age of criminal responsibility. If she was a boy at the age of 15 who had gone out to join isis and had been in isis fighter, we would not be having this conversation. Nobody would have a problem with because a problem with it because they didnt problem. One of didnt have a problem. One of the thats often made the arguments thats often made is it racist to strip is that it was racist to strip her citizenship. Well, her for citizenship. Well, we strip letts of strip jack letts of his citizenship, and he was a dual canadian citizen. So it has absolutely nothing to do with with to do with race and everything to do with race and everything to do with National Security. About 23 when his he was about 23 when his parents as parents were funding him, as i recall at the time. I think its a slightly case. A slightly different case. I very much doubt that if he was was a boy that had was if he was a boy that had gone join isis and had gone out to join isis and had been a jihadi fighter, that we would be having same would be having the same conversation as conversation and painting him as a victim in the same way. I dont know. I think at the moment i mean, i think at the moment shes actually getting away with it not brought to it by not being brought back to face music. Face the music. But then its fascinating politically, even that Jacob Rees Mogg politically, even that jacob reesthats an indication that think thats an indication that he government lose he fears the government may lose this is it a case of this case, or is it a case of him being pragmatic or abiding by the law . Its interesting because sir keir starmer believes Shamima Begum should return to britain. And this this return to britain. And this this could huge wedge issue with could be a huge wedge issue with lots voters who believe if lots of voters who believe if begum return to begum is allowed to return to britain, conservative party britain, the conservative party has in towel. Has finally thrown in the towel. It cannot control its borders whatsoever. I hate to say this. I had i had a long conversation with Jacob Rees Mogg yesterday on the principle romanus Jacob Rees Mogg yesterday on the prinwthez romanus Jacob Rees Mogg yesterday on the prinwthez of romanus Jacob Rees Mogg yesterday on the prinwthez of romarpacifico, and the case of donald pacifico, and the case of donald pacifico, and he was quoting all a number of 18th and 19th century cases where who was british where anybody who was a british citizen, these citizen, you know, has these inalienable rights never be inalienable rights will never be taken think taken away from them. I think its shame bangladesh its a shame that bangladesh didnt back, which was didnt take her back, which was actually, know, a original actually, you know, a original country. Fact remains is country. But the fact remains is that, know, she at the that, you know, she at the moment not facing the music. Moment is not facing the music. Shes been going on trial. Shes not been going on trial. Shes not been going on trial. She doesnt have chance to she doesnt have a chance to rebuild life in a refugee rebuild her life in a refugee camp think shes in oman. Camp in i think shes in oman. Im sure where you know, im im not sure where you know, im sorry. I think in sorry. So i think that we in this country, we have some responsibility for she responsibility for her. She was brought in this country and brought up in this country and i think we should actually bring her music. Lets her back face the music. Lets lets out in the open lets have it out in the open and hopefully discourage other people. A martyr people. Lets not make a martyr out thats the out of it. Thats what the jihadis have. Jihadis would have. Would it discourage other how would it discourage other people youre allowed to join people if youre allowed to join isis . That wants isis . A death cult that wants the extermination of the entire western then allow the extermination of the entire westeto then allow the extermination of the entire westeto come then allow the extermination of the entire westeto come backthen allow the extermination of the entire westeto come back ton allow the extermination of the entire westeto come back to britain . No them to come back to britain . No doubt live off taxpayers doubt to live off the taxpayers for of natural life. For the rest of natural life. I think people should know that and join a that if they go and join a terrorist organisation and theyre a dual citizenship ship, then highly theyll then its highly likely theyll have revoked have their citizenship revoked and just simply wont be and they just simply wont be allowed and that the allowed back here and that the consequences of their actions may have to live in may be that they have to live in a refugee camp slash foreign pnson a refugee camp slash foreign prison rest of their prison for the rest of their days. That days. Whether that might be a decade or whether that might be 5 or 6 decades, i just pure 5 or 6 decades, i, i just pure and simple. I 5 or 6 decades, i, i just pure and simple. I dont 5 or 6 decades, i, i just pure and simple. I dont that and simple. I dont think that somebody who has done what Shamima Begum has done and that may put, you know, if she comes back here to this country, she she is going to probably require security, probably at taxpayer expense. Shed probably put up be put up in a house at taxpayers expense because if she presumably shes not going to find it very easy to get a to get a job very easily unless she makes money out of being a celebrity here. And we also are not fully appraised of the same facts that the home secretary took into consideration when making that decision. So, frankly , i think that we i think frankly, i think that we i think that people need to accept that actions have consequences and if you go and join a terrorist organisation that fights against this country and they commit acts of terror against not only civilians in this country, but we have to remember children with the Manchester Arena bombing , which was something bombing, which was something that seemed excuse in one that she seemed to excuse in one of earlier interviews. And of her earlier interviews. And showed compunction showed absolutely no compunction whatsoever , for think that we whatsoever, for i think that we have to we have to send the message. Actions have consequences, she she gave up her citizenship , as far as im her citizenship, as far as im concerned , not in the legal concerned, not in the legal sense, but in a deeper sense. The moment that she decided to join terrorist organisation join a terrorist organisation and state building project that fought against this country, i find it i find it fascinating. And i watched the documentary where, you know, they interviewed didnt interviewed her and i didnt find her particularly reliable find her a particularly reliable witness. I also know what 15 witness. But i also know what 15 year old girls are like. And i know that 15 year old girls think they know everything and 15 year old girls know nothing. So you you are vulnerable. At 15 to of people. To a lot of people. Now have have large levels of suspicion that shes saying things without moving her lips. For example, the comment that she said there sounds like shes been briefed by a lawyer perhaps, and itjust begs been briefed by a lawyer perhaps, and it just begs the whole question, saw the little makeover where she makeover that she had where she had union jack behind her had the union jack behind her and dressed up like kim kardashian. People say anything to people would say anything to get into the country. Get back into the country. The alternative a death if the alternative is a death camp i mean, and camp abroad. I mean, and i understand why it makes peoples blood boil. Do. I do find her i really do. I do find her psychologically fascinating, though. I want though. And in some ways, i want i want to interview her. I want her to come back because i thought the guy that the thought the guy that did the program didnt ask the program with her didnt ask the probing edited probing questions. It was edited in made that meant in a way that made that meant she got off the hook. I think the serious questions over the babies died, i think she babies that died, i think she had that died. Had three babies that died. Like to say in this id like to say in this country, were actually better than people she than the sort of people that she went think were went to fight. I think were better than the jihadis and the islamic i think islamic terrorists. I think were better than that. And i think we actually believe in such a thing as redemption. And i responsibility. Such a thing as redemption. And i i responsibility. Such a thing as redemption. And i i thatponsibility. Such a thing as redemption. And i i that we sibility. Such a thing as redemption. And i i that we also ty. Such a thing as redemption. And i i that we also have a i think that we also have a moral to the to believe in moral duty to the to believe in this country, to not be mugs. I do redemption. Do believe in redemption. And i think that can be redeemed think that she can be redeemed in a camp elsewhere. I think in a camp elsewhere. But i think that government has a moral that the government has a moral duty, answer. Think duty, political answer. I think that the government have a moral duty to the of this duty to the people of this country a doormat. Country not to be a doormat. Right. You both. All right. Thank you both. Brilliant discussion. Excellent stuff. Come, stuff. Right. Still to come, were build up to the were going to build up to the start of pmqs midday with start of pmqs at midday with stephen and emma. Who better . This britains newsroom gb news. Hello. Very good morning. Its with your its alex burkill here with your latest update latest gb news weather update away scotland. Away from eastern scotland. Many places some for places will see some drier for weather a time today, but further rain to come in the south east its start. South east its a wet start. First youre about to first thing if youre about to head the door, watch out for head out the door, watch out for some heavy rain on the roads could some but could cause some problems. But the heavy rain is clearing through we go through the through as we go through the morning. Othennise, then across much of england, wales and northern be northern ireland, therell be some weather some dry, bright weather into the a different the afternoon, but a different story eastern scotland. Here story for eastern scotland. Here it is going to be cloudy and wet through day. Through much of the day. Temperatures for the temperatures near normal for the time highs around 14, time of year, highs around 14, possibly the possibly 15 celsius in the south. Bit cooler further south. A bit cooler further north on today, we north later on today, we are going to see a band of rain pushing its way in from the southwest. Gradually southwest. Thats gradually going north going to make its way north eastwards, some heavy eastwards, bringing some heavy rain of northern rain across parts of northern ireland. Wales in the south west and into the midlands and then later into the midlands as go through the early hours as we go through the early hours of quite of thursday, staying quite cloudy parts of cloudy and wet across parts of scotland a result, it is scotland as a result, it is going a relatively mild going to be a relatively mild night, not quite chilly as night, not quite as chilly as last night where some did last night where some places did dip freezing go dip below freezing as we go through then that rain through thursday. Then that rain continues its way north continues to push its way north eastwards into more northern and eastern could eastwards into more northern and easheavy could eastwards into more northern and easheavy at could eastwards into more northern and easheavy at times could eastwards into more northern and easheavy at times across could eastwards into more northern and easheavy at times across partsi be heavy at times across parts of east anglia. And notice some hefty showers following in behind downpours behind some heavy downpours possible south coastal possible around south coastal parts. Some further rain parts. Also some further rain for eastern parts of scotland. That could a little bit that could be a little bit heavier rain were heavier than the rain were going see through today. Going to see through today. Temperatures similar perhaps a touch today for some right . We are about four minutes away from pmqs. Were going to be taking that live. Yeah and aftennards, Mark Longhurst and pip tomson will sit down with labour mp steve mccabe and conservative mp bob seely for some in depth analysis on pmqs. Right, lets talk to emma and stephen now about what might come up at pmqs today. Immigration very up on the immigration very high up on the agenda. Stephen now, Robert Jenrick has been going around today theyre going to today to say theyre going to close 100 hotels looking after housing. Migrant looking after extremely well in some situations. And this situations. And this is something conservatives something that conservatives have got to get right before the next. Yes. I mean, at the moment, theyre making a big song and dance about moving sort of a couple dozen people in there. Couple of dozen people in there. And going be difficult and its going to be difficult for i mean, sunak, they for sunak. I mean, sunak, they call nowadays hes call him nowadays because hes looking exhausted all looking quite exhausted from all this. Theres two personal this. But theres two personal things, which are is things, which are one is yesterday morning , the shield, yesterday morning, the shield, the shield david the memorial shield for david amess as we amess who was murdered, as we know , was revealed the wall. Know, was revealed on the wall. And quite close to the one where jo cox is, in fact, as you come into the house of commons chamber, all around you are the shields of mps who were killed in people like shields of mps who were killed in neave, people like shields of mps who were killed in neave, who people like shields of mps who were killed in neave, who were ople like shields of mps who were killed in neave, who were killed ke airey neave, who were killed while serving mps. And you sometimes you forget that mps actually quite dangerous actually have quite a dangerous job. Thing of job. Yeah, the other thing of course, peter bowen course, is the peter bowen thing. Bone had thing. Peter bone had a reputation in queues for years and goes as mrs. Bowen and years. Goes as mrs. Bowen said to me at breakfast this morning. Well now we know that what mrs. Bowen said him at what mrs. Bowen said to him at breakfast your bike. Breakfast was on your bike. Peter there will be peter but its so there will be some of that and the some mention of that and the possibility of another by election. But youre absolutely be. Absolutely right, it will be. Obviously palestine, obviously israel, palestine, the hamas morning hamas situation this morning with the attack at the sea, but it will also be about immigration. It will be about i think theyll try to get something in it about inflation. With not quite as bad with this, its not quite as bad as it was. With this, its not quite as bad as iand s. With this, its not quite as bad as iand sorry, i was going to and sorry, i was going to say, maybe bankers bonuses, emma, of the fact that emma, in terms of the fact that the bankers bonus cap has now been dropped. So bankers can make a fortune, there is some Political Capital to be made out of from labour today. Of that from labour today. Yeah, i mean its not difficult to imagine how labour yeah, i mean its not diffgoing imagine how labour yeah, i mean its not diffgoing to nagine how labour yeah, i mean its not diffgoing to respond|ow labour yeah, i mean its not diffgoing to respond tov labour yeah, i mean its not diff going to respond to this, ur are going to respond to this, but , but know, its one but, but you know, its one of those, its one of those subjects that just lends itself very political very well to political posturing, very well to political posand g, very well to political posand itd be good if we could and itd be good if we could see some policy from labour on how they would attempt to deal with immigration with the illegal immigration crisis. Todays of crisis. But todays news, of course, party data has course, Labour Party Data has shown its £800 a night for a birth on the bibby stockholm. Do you think we can expect labour to put the boot into the tories on that . You know, i do wonder whether starmer facing the backlash, however small or large it may be. In reality, the fact that its in the press and being described as a meltdown is surely enough smoke and mirrors for it to be considered in pr terms. I wonder whether starmer will move moderate himself somewhat on the migration issue to in order to appease certain voting demographics who are annoyed with him over his stance on israel and hamas , or whether on israel and hamas, or whether hell lean into it and actually be quite or at least i dont think that they would be robust in reality. But i think maybe he might talk tough in order to lean into it. So id be interesting to see which way he chooses to go. The tories will certainly be going on the, you know, 20 or so labour councillors resigned. Councillors whove resigned. Pressing theyll certainly be pressing on that and i imagine theyll also be having a at the snp also be having a go at the snp as you know, were sort as well. You know, who were sort of of this 36 of co signatories of this 36 name early day motion that was being submitted. So theres going this sort going to be a lot of this sort of personality stuff. But i mean, of the problems is you mean, one of the problems is you never whats going to be never know whats going to be asked. I mean, Gerald Kaufman said when i first got said to me, when i first got elected, theres one elected, theres only one question tony question that you can ask tony blair ministers blair at Prime Ministers questions. And i said, whats that . He said, the prime that . He said, would the Prime Minister of minister care to remind us of his triumphs . And his latest triumphs . And i actually did ask him that once. Yes thats because but that yes but thats because but that is tony was very, is because tony blair was very, very at self marketing and very good at self marketing and promotion himself. Promotion of himself. Rishi sunak doesnt have that same skill. Neither does same skill. Neither does starmer, starmer, even less so. Yeah, absolutely. Yeah, absolutely. There was that lovely time. There was that lovely time. We were having a big debate about the European Union and tony blair said, he said, listen, nonnay is not in the European Union. Nobody European Union. Well, nobody said because it was said it was, but because it was such a hubbub, everybody thought somebody bench had somebody on the tory bench had said, the eu. Said, nonnays in the eu. Thats because he was well, thats because he was an tony blair an actor. Tony blair fundamentally, and fundamentally, first and foremost, very quick. Fundamentally, first and fore hisst, very quick. Fundamentally, first and fore his brainy quick. Fundamentally, first and fore his brainy qualmost as quick his brain was almost as quick as i mean, he was a as emmas. I mean, he was a very, very short. But its interesting because starmer is positioning himself, as blair too well. As you know, blair too well. Blair was heir to blair was the heir to thatcher, wasnt he, though . Blair was the heir to thatchfused snt he, though . Blair was the heir to thatchfused sn say, though . Blair was the heir to thatchfused sn say heiough . Blair was the heir to thatchfused sn say he wast . Blair was the heir to thatchfused sn say he was the people used to say he was the heir maggie. Heir to maggie. But wonder the labour but i wonder if the labour party, all theyre doing now is attacking the tories on illegal immigration, not immigration, but theyre not having their own. Immigration, but theyre not havido their own. Immigration, but theyre not havido they their own. Immigration, but theyre not havido they need their own. Immigration, but theyre not havido they need to their own. Immigration, but theyre not havido they need to doir own. Immigration, but theyre not havido they need to do that . But do they need to do that . I mean, what whats the way that the try and turn this the tories can try and turn this around at the moment . Emma, it seems the tories are seems like the tories are heading the of heading over the edge of a cliff. I dont know if they can turn it im honest, theyd it back, if im honest, theyd have really their act have to really get their act together very fast in together very, very fast in order turn the ship enough to order to turn the ship enough to miss iceberg. Thats coming. Miss the iceberg. Thats coming. I keir starmer could i think that keir starmer could do one of two things. I mean, either he can talk tough, but i dont think that theyve actually real tangible actually got any real tangible policies convince the policies that would convince the voters and energy security. And the idea , the tribute and the idea, the tribute migration. Migration. I was going to say. I was going to say. So youre talking about policies. I keep thinking its sort of gb news. In fact, its gb energy, this company that were talking about setting up because cost of living. You because the cost of living. You remember, the famous, remember, you know, the famous, you carville, its you know, james carville, its the economy, immigration the economy, stupid. Immigration is number one item on is not the number one item on most peoples agenda. It is the cost of living. The fact that we cant afford to heat eat cant afford to heat and eat thatis cant afford to heat and eat that is big issue. I think that is the big issue. I think thats where labour is making the case. My point, my was going my point, my point was going to that i think given the way to be that i think given the way the pr handling of this the bad pr handling of this mosque pulled, it mosque stunt that he pulled, it seems that the from starmers perspective, the best thing he can do in order to win votes at the next general election is to just keep his head down while the tories keep mucking things up or fail to turn the ship. As i said, because every time he does try to wade in, he seems to