Trying to identify another 22 people from photographs. People from photographs. Meanwhile, a London Underground driver who led a free palestine chant on his pack train has been suspended. Three other side hope you will have a blessed day today. Look after yourself. Look after yourself. Transport for london, says the driver who led the chant on saturday has been suspended pending further investigation into the incident. It happened on saturday as around 100,000 protesters took part in a pro palestinian demonstration in london. Footage posted online by a journalist appeared to show the chant being led over the trains speaker system. And trains speaker system. And lastly , a man who bought a pool lastly, a man who bought a pool table after winning £2. 4 million on the National Lottery is now queuing up to represent england at the european pool championships in malta. Neil jones and his partnerjulie kirkham won the money just before christmas in 2010. After getting his new pool table. Mr jones decided to take advantage of all the free time he had on his hands. He sharpened of all the free time he had on his hands. He sharpened his skills on the table and rose through the competitive ranks , through the competitive ranks, he said. Representing england in malta will be his proudest moment. But malta will be his proudest moment. But this is gb news across the uk on tv in your car, on Digital Radio and on your Smart Speaker by saying, play gb news. This is britains news channel. Channel. Hello and welcome to headliners. Headliners. Your first look at tomorrows newspaper. I your first look at tomorrows newspaper. I am your first look at tomorrows newspaper. I am simon evans newspaper. I am simon evans joining me tonight. We have two headliners favourites man of his word, steve allen, man of the people. Nick dixon. Theyre calling you a populist. Nick i like it. I can live with that. No shame about that of you. No shame about that of you. Yeah. Im going to launch my political platform after this. You really become the new leader. Steve, of your bank account. Steve, more sort of egg steve, i am more sort of egg headed types out of headed ivory tower types out of touch. Touch. You could do the policies in the background. You could do the policies in the there|round. You could do the policies in the there|roun be the first to be killed. Were going to be wonks, arent we . Right. Lets have a look those front pages. The look at those front pages. The daily mail kick us off with those that prove the depravity of hamas terrorists. We will be taking a look at that. The telegraph eu clash with uk and us on ceasefire , the guardian us on ceasefire, the guardian bombardment of gaza continues amid talks to free more hostages there. Times have sunak chanting jihad is threat to our democracy. The Financial Times chevron doubles down on fossil fuel wager with 53 billion swoop for hess. Not a clue what any of hess. Not a clue what any of that means. And the daily star , that means. And the daily star, this one, i understand, is there mice on mars . Is there or are there other. Well, those are your front page. There other. Well, those are your front page. Is. There other. Well, those are your front page. Is. So that your front page. Is. So that star headline is going to haunt me for the rest of the show. But well start with the daily mail. Steve, what are they leading with . Yeah, its not a good one today at all. Gruesome videos that prove the depravity of hamas terrorists. Look, anyone who terrorists. Look, anyone who i mean, i suppose im biased, i would say right minded as in agree with me who heard the details of the first attack, saw some of the pictures youve already on this. Already made your mind on this. But israel have released more details , videos now, the details, videos now, the newspaper havent put pictures in from the video. Its too gruesome. Even the description of some of the things that we could have been shown on, its a bit too much. Its even reading the details is the kind of thing thats going to haunt you when you start to picture it. And its because of this this narrative thats come of narrative thats come up of trying almost claim that its trying to almost claim that its not that its not been not true, that its not been happening. So theyve had to release extra details to prove it, very interesting. Release extra details to prove it, this very interesting. Release extra details to prove it, this i very interesting. Release extra details to prove it, this i mean, interesting. Release extra details to prove it, this i mean, puttinging. Release extra details to prove it, this i mean, putting aside this i mean, putting aside the emotional response which my strong andrew neil strong as well, andrew neil tweeted detail. Hed seen tweeted some detail. Hed seen it and said that journalists were tears that treatment were in tears and that treatment of some of the children is just about the most horrific stuff you imagine. But looking at you can imagine. But looking at it more strategically, its also quite clearly quite interesting. Clearly a sort of propaganda war is being fought, you know, in parallel with the actual well, obviously, hamas are not fighting anymore. They are now, i suppose, calculating whether or not and how and when to release hostages. But as other people have said, theres a its almost working in in the opposite direction to how war propaganda would traditionally have worked, which would encourage you to think we were winning. Nowadays war propaganda is basically about highlighting the horrors, the atrocities committed by the other in order to other side in order to legitimise your i legitimise your response. I suppose its so suppose because its so asymmetrical, from asymmetrical, apart from anything , israel could asymmetrical, apart from anyth literally , israel could asymmetrical, apart from anyth literally nuke el could asymmetrical, apart from anyth literally nuke gaza|ld asymmetrical, apart from anyth literally nuke gaza and, quite literally nuke gaza and, you know, dispense with it in a single afternoon. Thats also probably internal versus external propaganda as well. Yeah, you probably want versus external propaganda as wel restah, you probably want versus external propaganda as wel rest of you probably want versus external propaganda as wel rest of the| probably want versus external propaganda as wel rest of the world my want versus external propaganda as wel rest of the world tor want versus external propaganda as wel rest of the world to see. |t the rest of the world to see. Yes your your position. But the key element of calling it as propaganda is not in any way to deal legitimise it or it into simply or call it into question simply the purpose that it is serving is to legitimise the amount of force , because thats the thing force, because thats the thing that always is accused that israel is always is accused of, being disproportionate, of, is being disproportionate, isnt it . Well , yeah, thats also a well, yeah, thats also a shift presumably in politics and the way we see things with decolonisation and ideas like this being so strong to be the ultimate victim to garner the ultimate victim is to garner the most sympathy. In the past its more whereas in the past its more like is right. Like might is right. So perhaps just to so perhaps you just want to echo said, just echo what steve said, just reading descriptions reading these descriptions was horrific nauseating. And horrific and nauseating. And its that theyre having its tragic that theyre having to this because people have to do this because people have been playing down and this been playing it down and this sick equivalence sick kind of moral equivalence that engaging that people have been engaging in outright just rabid in or just outright just rabid sort of anti israel sentiment. And the bbc have and people like the bbc have really dropped ball. Really dropped the ball. With their these woke actors with their open been pretty appalling. So things like this just remind of the horrors of remind people of the horrors of whats going whats actually going on. Hopefully sober few hopefully well sober a few people up, though. I doubt in many cases. I mean, i agree. Im just checking jackie checking her name, jackie walker, who was, of course, accused lot of accused of a lot of anti semitism within labour anti semitism within the labour party corbyn, still party under corbyn, still questioning there questioning is there corroborating evidence from independent organisations now putting aside whatever kind of psychosis or whatever kind of, you know, blackened stone she has where her heart should be . This because this is tactical suicide because obviously most right thing, i mean, like the ovennhelming majority of people now are going to go, oh, im so sorry that you had to do this. This doubling down on disbelief is like destroying the case, isnt it . I wonder, though, because what me, started off what concerns me, it started off the decolonise the people. There was a mask off moment as were celebrating the as they were celebrating the atrocities. Then it seemed atrocities. But then it seemed to change to where being anti israel became the high status sort of status position in the sort of culture war binary. And thats my concern. Become high status now. So theres no risk, for so theres no risk, for example, in the tube driver. Why feels embolden thats why he feels embolden to palestine over the to say, free palestine over the tannoy will come on to that. Tannoy we will come on to that. Moving to the telegraph in moving on to the telegraph in the meantime. So the the meantime. Nick yeah, so the telegraph few stories the meantime. Nick yeah, so the telegigoing few stories the meantime. Nick yeah, so the telegigoing with. Ew stories were going with. Reveals natwest staff farage reveals natwest staff gloated his de banking and gloated over his de banking and of nigels covered this of course nigels covered this earlier show. It is. Earlier on his show. But it is. I wont say shocking when i say shocking. I mean in the sense of indignation disgust. Not in indignation and disgust. Not in the im surprised. So the sense that im surprised. So a subject access request came back. Had the one back. It already had the one from coots. This from coots. Now this is a separate one natwest and it separate one from natwest and it very much what we suspected and worse. I mean, said he worse. I mean, people said he was nobody. Now that was a nobody. Now that hes completed weird completed brexit, a bit weird because potential future because hes a potential future prime people id Prime Minister people said id happily a milkshake at him happily throw a milkshake at him if i approached to open an if i was approached to open an account stuff. Account for him. Shocking stuff. They dodgy russian they claimed dodgy russian connections and fraud, is connections and fraud, which is probably so probably libellous. And so natwest issued a fairly natwest have issued a fairly sort of standard apology. You this falls below you know, this falls below our of service and so on. On. So but it sounds like thats just the kind of thing that was going at natwest. And when going on at natwest. And when you speak to people kind you speak to people in the kind of extended afraid this of extended bob, im afraid this is talk about anyone is how they talk about anyone thats political persuasion. I mean, just to play devils advocate, for the sake of advocate, just for the sake of a you know, a plausible debate about because i do about the subject, because i do tend feel, know, on his tend to feel, you know, on his side this. But weve side in this. But weve discussed previously on the show the surgeons the black humour that surgeons use, officers use use, that Police Officers use among not ever among themselves, not ever expecting it to be shared to the wider public. That them wider public. That allows them to off a bit of steam. To just let off a bit of steam. If it were the case that the banking staff at telegraph banking staff at the telegraph regarded farage with this kind of sort of snooty derision, it wouldnt matter until and unless they have actually transgressed in terms of his actual, you know, civil rights. Right. Well, then they are shutting down account, and down his account, though, and theyre saying things like, say theyre saying things like, say the a commercial the bank made a commercial decision. Thing. Decision. Thats the thing. If it was gallows humour in the action doing your job action of doing your job properly, youre properly, which is what youre referring things like referring to with things like the this is the military. But this is gallows while actually gallows humour while actually not job and not doing your job and de banking someone. Thats the conspiracy. I can try harder to do i can try even harder to do more of a balance on this. If you want. Yeah. The closest i could get to it is the staff referred him as crackpot referred to him as a crackpot and awful being. But what and awful human being. But what it mr claimed it says here, mr farage claimed that were acting for that they were acting for political maybe they political reasons. Maybe they just like the guy because just didnt like the guy because awful beings, awful human beings, not necessarily political. Awful human beings, not nchh,|rily political. Awful human beings, not nec uh, its political. Awful human beings, not nec uh, its not tical. Awful human beings, not nec uh, its not necessarily, but uh, its not necessarily, but its unlikely theyve got to know well in a personal know him that well in a personal capacity. You know, you remember that time burnt the goulash that time he burnt the goulash is it. Is probably not. That is it. To fair, there was one guy to be fair, there was one guy who said hes actually okay and quite nice as a client. Imagine being guy keeping being that one guy just keeping silent the office most of the silent in the office most of the time. Then you just couldnt bear eventually bear it. And you just eventually i hes all right and i think hes all right and everyone just stares at you. Interesting what you said earlier beliefs, earlier about luxury beliefs, though, terms though, you know, in terms of israel palestine, this israel versus palestine, this is another luxury another example of luxury beliefs, isnt cant beliefs, isnt it . I cant imagine that. As a bank imagine that. Coutts as a bank was affected that badly was probably affected that badly by brexit, a kind of by brexit, but its a kind of luxury. Important luxury luxury. Its an important luxury belief you belief to demonstrate that you are someone regards are someone who regards themselves intellectual themselves on an intellectual plane, down on brexit plane, that looks down on brexit as as the great unwashed. That, we and speaking of that, we should mention that should we should mention that this will affect ordinary people as farage. As well, not just farage. Obviously, kind of attitude obviously, this kind of attitude is people around country. The time so their side the time steve so their side story, we want talk story, which we want to talk about, is give parents details of Sex Education. Told this gillian schools told this is Gillian Keegan to keegan whos saying they need to stop this thing where theyre not out the information not giving out the information of the reason of the syllabus. And the reason theyve this bizarre theyve got this bizarre situation is instead of coming up with syllabus within up with a the syllabus within the use a third the school, they use a third party to the information. Party to give the information. But third party say but then the third party say its cant its copyrighted, so you cant send the parents, which is send it to the parents, which is ridiculous, isnt it . If youve bought of a book, you can bought a copy of a book, you can show it to your parents. So it seems. Do you think its real or do you think theyre using that as a loophole to justify . It must be a loophole because no ones actually go. No ones actually going to go. No, this is this is copyrighted. You show to parents. Never that of any never heard that of any geography textbook or history textbook. Be textbook. I mean, it would be anything, couldnt it . Almost like, well, and its almost like, well, then are you allowed to learn it . If you memorise with it . Because if you memorise with it, if you memorise it, yeah. You if you memorise the are in breach the syllabus, are you in breach of clearly one of the of copyright. Clearly one of the worries would be you get sex worries would be you get a Sex Education therell education syllabus and therell be some parents who might be on the who are disgusted the fringe who are disgusted by it. Thats the way it it. Well thats the way it always was growing always was. When i was growing up, education and up, we got Sex Education and therell some kids who were therell be some kids who were therell be some kids who were the out of the the parents took him out of the class. I dont agree with that. But you dont solve it by banning people seeing the syllabus. And weve seen, of course, which parents tend to the which parents tend to be the ones are kicking off in most ones who are kicking off in most of come to of the cases that have come to light the last few years. Light over the last few years. They tend be muslim parents, they tend to be muslim parents, right . Mean, thats the right . I mean, thats the reality. Just statistically speaking, the ovennhelming majority in the various schools, they theyre teaching majority in the various schools, they the theyre teaching majority in the various schools, they the lgb theyre teaching majority in the various schools, they the lgb aspecte teaching majority in the various schools, they the lgb aspect of. Eaching majority in the various schools, they the lgb aspect of theiing them the lgb aspect of the syllabus or whatever, and they dont like it. Yes, i mean, this is reality. Is the demographic reality. I am. Mean, i remember during am. I mean, i remember during lockdown, was midway lockdown, it was about midway through 2020 all the kids through 2020 and all the kids were is schooling. Were doing is schooling. Somebody like from were doing is schooling. Snkind ody like from were doing is schooling. Snkind ofy like from were doing is schooling. Snkind of zoom like from were doing is schooling. Snkind of zoom call like from were doing is schooling. Snkind of zoom call amongze from a kind of zoom call among teachers were discussing the teachers who were discussing the implications of schooling, implications of e schooling, quite openly, this quite openly, saying and this they this to reach quite openly, saying and this thejpublic this to reach quite openly, saying and this thejpublic quite this to reach quite openly, saying and this thejpublic quite openly, reach quite openly, saying and this thejpublic quite openly, saying the public quite openly, saying that they were worried that the kids out of their kids were basically out of their clutches and can longer be clutches and can no longer be indoctrinated. Mean, they indoctrinated. I mean, they really said, quiet really near as said, quiet part out loud. Really near as said, quiet part outyeah, absolutely. Really near as said, quiet part outyea shocking. Ely. Really near as said, quiet part outyea shocking. I. Y. Really near as said, quiet part outyea shocking. I mean, and its shocking. I mean, and theres here theres one part here where theres one part here where there was emerged that some there was a it emerged that some materials asked children whether they non binary. They were planning non binary. Discovered so i think weve discovered what people are on. What planet these people are on. It out to be planet it turns out to be planet non binary shocking shocking stuff daily finish off stuff daily star to finish off nick we sort out this . Nick can we sort out this . Love headline thing. You love this headline thing. You love this headline thing. There mice on now . Of is there mice on mars now . Of course pun wouldnt work course the pun wouldnt work if it are there, but thats it says are there, but thats not enough for you, is not good enough for you, sam. Is there mice on mars . Well there is, according to a good is, according to them, a good pun either. Is it . I mean, its a different first letter, isnt its not a rhyme. Different first letter, isnt its im a rhyme. Different first letter, isnt its im startinge. Different first letter, isnt its im starting to think the im starting to think the star doesnt have quite the rigorous all rigorous standards that we all thought. Not. They can thought. Simon im not. They can be amusing, though. I mean, maybe in this case, but the maybe not in this case, but the point there were some mice point is, there were some mice at top of a chilean volcano at the top of a chilean volcano where is very thin. Its where the air is very thin. Its ultra thin, in fact. And so the point is they could theoretically survive mars. Theoretically survive on mars. It are mice it doesnt mean there are mice on there are many. So an there are so many. So an extremophile, though, right . Thats the word. Yeah. Thats the word. Yeah yeah. Thats it. Like this extreme cysts and extremophile. They they theyre they love extreme. Theyre antifragile. For part antifragile. Thats it for part one. Up, a little death one. Coming up, a little death ray sunshine, a of hate ray of sunshine, a tube of hate and as youre listening to gb news radio. News radio. Hello. Welcome back to headliners. Im simon evans. Still here with steven allen and nick dixon. So let us continue with the story. Steve, we kick off this half with a story in the express about one of the many celebs to have been on the rhubarb and custard the last few days. The gmb star adil ray defends jihad, calls at pro palestine protests in whitehall. He makes the point that some people made in the first articles about this, about the word has different meanings like pear and pean different meanings like pear and pear, but obviously with far worse consequences and he says it can mean struggle. So it can mean struggle. So a muslim spiritual struggle to avoid sin and be a better human. So i thought, lets put that in context, replace the word with that and see if it works. So in one clip taken outside the egyptian embassy, a speaker says, what is the solution to liberate people from the concentration called concentration camps called palestine . Says palestine . The mob says a struggle to avoid sin and be a better human and avoid evil. Its like the its good. Its like the consolations of philosophy, you know, aurelius know, or Marcus Aurelius meditations. Meditations. Thought that further on, so i thought that further on, theres another clip. Lets put it see if it works. It in there, see if it works. The mob says the second clip, the mob says the second clip, the by the only solution is jihad by the armies of the muslim countries. So thats the only solution is the struggle to avoid be a better human avoid sin and be a better human by the of the muslims. By the armies of the muslims. Im saying it as ive said on twitter, not so much twitter, its not so much gaslight as a manually gaslight being as a manually controlled strobe. Gaslight being as a manually conitsled strobe. Gaslight being as a manually conitsled extreme. But i do its so extreme. But i do think i mean, you have to understand that. Yes i understand that. Yes i understand word jihad understand the word jihad contains many meanings. I think its legitimate. You could say its legitimate. You could say its kind of like crusade where you can say , im on a crusade to you can say, im on a crusade to bnng you can say, im on a crusade to bring down underaged alcohol abuse. Bring down underaged alcohol abuse. And you dont necessarily abuse. And you dont necessarily mean and im going to do that by slaughtering all the arabs and retaking jerusalem. But if you said that while you had been gathered by the pope in the 12th century, then you would you would understand crusade in that context. And thats the context its seen in, isnt it . At the moment . It is one of these words which can be adapted to certain. I do get that hes correct, but hes absolutely dishonest in his attempt to make sound as if attempt to make it sound as if its being used way. In its being used in that way. In this context. No, simon, disagree when no, simon, i disagree when im through a spiritual im going through a spiritual struggle tend to struggle to avoid sin, i tend to wait the moment of maximum wait for the moment of maximum political out on Political Tension and get out on the and scream about it the streets and scream about it in as many people as in front of as many people as possible. What an absurd idea. Thats personal to thats a personal struggle to avoid sin. Absolute gaslighting, as you said, appalling, ridiculous . Ridiculous nonsense. And why . Why disingenuous and we only why so disingenuous and we only have to compare it with things like being arrested for praying in your head near an Abortion Centre to see where we are with this with the met Police People like adil ray will go out of their way to defend the indefensible. Meanwhile, you know, minor transgressions are punished in our code tyranny. Absolutely. Even then, say and even then, i would say perhaps there a role for adil perhaps there is a role for adil ray. As a guest on a newsnight discussion about sort of discussion about these sort of things. Is presenting things. But he is presenting perhaps countrys most perhaps the countrys most popular Breakfast Television show. Hes a really show. Hes hes a really mainstream tv host who is making a ham fisted attempt to apologise. A ham fisted attempt to apologise. His apologies for terrorism. Its disgusting. There is a question of how you deal with it, you know, because the police were saying we need more hate speech laws and terrorism laws. I dont think we need more hate speech laws. We have speech laws. We seem to have loads of them. We might need different terrorism laws. Im not evolved to not sure our laws evolved to deal particular threat. I certainly think in terms of hate speech and bad speech, i am absolutely in favour free absolutely in favour of free speech. But think we need to speech. But i think we need to listen to what the british people saying about these people are saying about these things than sort things rather than sort of a handful anyway. Really quickly, it so just really quickly, it says at the bottom of the article that itv has been approached comment about approached for comment about this theyve this thick of that. Yeah theyve had that recently metro had a lot of that recently metro now nick proof if proof were needed endorsing needed that mindlessly endorsing terrorism for the terrorism is not just for the rich successful however yeah rich and successful however yeah its who used pa its tube driver who used pa system free palestine system to chant free palestine suspended so its our old friend again. Spoken about this weve spoken about this guy quite hes now been quite a bit and hes now been suspended. Theyre saying weve been, urgently, been, weve urgently, were urgently thoroughly urgently and thoroughly investigating urgently and thoroughly inv im|ating urgently and thoroughly inwlm going to check in line on. Im going to check in line with their policies and procedures. And i mean, im sort of be really generous of to try and be really generous here. Mean, obviously was here. I mean, obviously it was appalling mad. Im going to appalling and mad. Im going to try and be really generous because a job where because were in a job where people trying people are constantly trying to get sacked and suggesting we get us sacked and suggesting we should all sacked and the should all be sacked and the whole should be down. Whole thing should be shut down. You argue maybe he was you could argue maybe he was just because just so naive because these ideas become mainstream, just so naive because these ideas in become mainstream, just so naive because these ideas in itself ome mainstream, just so naive because these ideas in itself is1e mainstream, just so naive because these ideas in itself is a mainstream, just so naive because these ideas in itself is a is mainstream, just so naive because these ideas in itself is a is anainstream, just so naive because these ideas in itself is a is a big|stream, which in itself is a is a big problem that just didnt problem that he just didnt realise contentious it was. Realise how contentious it was. And maybe the rules should be from now on. This instant from now on. This is an instant dismissal, but because its such a there might not a weird thing, there might not have rule about dont have been a rule about dont shout free palestine. On the tannoy. He just tannoy. He just it was he might just thought it was like, england. Like, come on, england. Yes, possibly. But maybe he should but im should just be sacked. But im just reluctant because people just so reluctant because people always sacked. So always want us to be sacked. So im reluctant to say im just reluctant to say it. But perhaps he should. Also say free and i will also say free palestine. In other contexts. That like as bad as that isnt like as bad as shouting jihad. That is maybe an aspiration. Context aspiration. The context is everything in everything here, but youre in charge of passengers charge of a group of passengers for whom some of you know that some of whom will find that very distressing. Defence would the another defence would be the word many different word free has many different meanings. At no meanings. It could mean at no cost. It could simply be the band that sang all right now. So maybe chanting bit maybe he was chanting that bit because shouting free. Because he was shouting free. And people in the carriage and the people in the carriage were palestine. Were shouting palestine. Sounding free, maybe he was sounding free, free, to shout free, expecting them to shout israel. They wrongfooted israel. And they wrongfooted him. Surprise, steve we him. What a surprise, steve we used School Catchment areas, used to School Catchment areas, but there is a new postcode but now there is a new Postcode Lottery in play in the times. Lottery in play in the times. So the tories are going to stop using hotels in stop using song hotels in election battlegrounds for migrants. Yeah conservative strategists have come up with this. It kind of makes sense. People in areas of stoke and wigan because they want to try and win these seats, all of a sudden realise that sudden theyll realise that their arent being their local hotels arent being fine. Theyre not. So fine. Yeah, theyre not. So thats and the story doesnt seem these seem to say where these immigrants or Asylum Seekers or whatever they are, the people are processing, where whatever they are, the people are they processing, where whatever they are, the people are they going cessing, where whatever they are, the people are they going to ising, where whatever they are, the people are they going to be g, where whatever they are, the people are they going to be put here whatever they are, the people are they going to be put then into, constituencies into, into constituencies that have fallen have definitely already fallen to this the to labour . Yeah, this is the great thing the bibby great thing about the bibby stockholm can just float it stockholm you can just float it around. Is not a win. I around. This is not a win. I mean, in part its because they are get through the are trying to get through the backlog, there should be backlog, so there should be fewer people to distribute to. Actually, of the numbers actually, some of the numbers looked relatively promising, like made like they actually have made some i think it is worth but i think it is worth saying that theyre trying to saying that if theyre trying to win your vote by moving the people theyre not in people around so theyre not in the what happens the hotels, what happens when they dont need your vote in a few they dont need it few months . They dont need it for would you trust for five years. Would you trust them nick the moving them then, nick the moving things and people around thing has tactics for decades. Its incredibly cynical. Its incredibly cynical. Mean, just doing it i mean, yeah, just doing it in election battlegrounds. In key election battlegrounds. Why whole country why not run the whole country for you know, is for the whole time . You know, is it they need to it crazy idea . But they need to get this because 66 of get hold of this because 66 of all agree with suella all britons agree with Suella Braverman is braverman that immigration is an existential so riccis existential threat. So riccis speech was so touch with speech was so out of touch with this the conference when this at the conference when he talked a levels hs2 talked about a levels and hs2 and they need to do and smoking. So they need to do something. Just it something. Butjust quickly, it says of polling, the people says of the polling, the people that couldnt vote before, if they couldnt vote, reform, only a to the a quarter would go to the tories. 40 wouldnt vote at tories. But 40 wouldnt vote at all. And thats what the tories tories. But 40 wouldnt vote at all. Facing. Ats what the tories tories. But 40 wouldnt vote at all. Facing. People it the tories tories. But 40 wouldnt vote at all. Facing. People it the to not are facing. People are just not to going vote at all until they bnngin to going vote at all until they bring in farage course. Bring in farage of course. Absolutely. Was absolutely. It was interesting, wasnt it . The recent they recent by election that they didnt much and 10 of didnt lose by much and 10 of the votes went parties the didnt lose by much and 10 of the vofls went parties the didnt lose by much and 10 of the vof the ant parties the didnt lose by much and 10 of the vof the tory parties the didnt lose by much and 10 of the vof the tory party. Es the didnt lose by much and 10 of the vof the tory party. So the didnt lose by much and 10 of the vof the tory party. So if the right of the tory party. So if they can find some way to neutralise those or persuade voters that those will be wasted rather protest, they rather than as a protest, they do chance. But they do still have a chance. But they need farage because no one trusts getting people out. As you think many you say, i dont think many people change vote over people do change their vote over the a lifetime. I, of the course of a lifetime. I, of course, am intelligent enough to judge on its judge every election on its merits, think a of merits, but i think a lot of people are more tribal than that. Absolutely question people are more tribal than th. Motivation,lutely question people are more tribal than th. Motivation, which question people are more tribal than th. Motivation, which is, uestion people are more tribal than th. Motivation, which is, of;tion of motivation, which is, of course, was the nature of what was corruption, but was was not corruption, but was a great surprise 2020. In great surprise in 2020. In america, the postal vote america, it was the postal vote which enabled a huge slice of the electorate to the democratic electorate to have they have their say because they wouldnt bothered wouldnt normally be bothered to stand shut nick stand in the shut ins. Nick independent now we weve known what a bakers dozen is 12 plus one. But what about 50 plus one . Yeah, this is quite surprising. So brexit should have needed 60 vote in favour. Says tory brexiteer minister. And this is steve baker once called the hard man of brexit. Of course its a bit easier, a bit of a different position now as minister of state for Northern Ireland and what hes sort of pointing out is, would you really want it to be 51 on irish unification . And of course hes wouldnt, but hes saying you wouldnt, but then him to then that perhaps forces him to say way, perhaps say and by the way, perhaps it wasnt idea with brexit wasnt a great idea with brexit either, now the point he either, because now the point he does which completely does make, which is completely fair, it led to people fair, is that it led to people refusing to accept enact the refusing to accept and enact the result it was so close, result because it was so close, whereas if had been 60, whereas if it had been 60, people have have people would have would have would it. But would have enacted it. But imagine remainers imagine how furious remainers will this. Will be hearing this. Well, i do in a way. Hes quite brave, but even then he does slightly and does fudge it slightly and suggest that it could still have been won at 60 and clearly it wouldnt it . So . Well, i suppose your argument would different going would have been different going into they were into it. Yeah, but they were aiming for the number aiming for the biggest number anyway have anyway so they wouldnt have changed too much. Changed the strategies too much. I the fact that hes saying i love the fact that hes saying that. Oh, look at the trouble that. Oh, look at the trouble that caused 52 to 48. That was caused by the 52 to 48. Imagine that. Not imagine that. Hes not even mentioned trouble it mentioned the trouble that it could have been if it landed at 59. Yeah, nothing happened. And could have been if it landed at 59. The1, nothing happened. And could have been if it landed at 59. The1, nothing iamountd. And could have been if it landed at 59. The1, nothing iamount ofand but the maximum amount of outrage about it. Very good point that thats a very good point that is a very good point. I know they normally theyve they do normally theyve said this and there was this in the past and there was a lot of talk about whether it should 60 over 40 for should be 60 over 40 for scotlands independence. And i think they had think the last time they had a vote in spain, they did it 60 or may even be two thirds. But youre absolutely that youre absolutely right, that would and steve would be brutal. And steve telegraph, this is like telegraph, now, this is like that time i had to go to the Garden Centre for petrol because the run out the petrol station had run out this is tens thousands going this is tens of thousands going to decay because to a e with tooth decay because they cant get to an nhs dentist. Nearly 70,000 people its nearly 70,000 people were emergency were treated in emergency departments, bad for departments, which is bad for them. It must them. But imagine what it must be youre someone else be like if youre someone else waiting to be seen. Oh, youve got you . Because got toothache, have you . Because i cleaning and i did some cleaning and accidentally, on accidentally, nakedly sat on that. Me would you . Whos got the moral high ground here . Yeah well. Well, just the bigger medical need. But its 4. 7. Medical need. But its 4. 7. 5 Million People denied an appointment with an nhs dentist. Yeah, and i do think we do need to have people having access to basic dentistry because theres a narrative of like, these people just need to sort out their own lives, pull themselves up their own lives, pull themselves p by their own lives, pull themselves up by the bootstraps, not having teeth is one of the things that holds you back in life. Its like a facial tattoo. Well, its true, the trouble at the true, but the trouble is at the moment that dentists can earn moment is that dentists can earn so doing private. Moment is that dentists can earn so and doing private. Moment is that dentists can earn so and also,g private. Moment is that dentists can earn so and also, youivate. Moment is that dentists can earn so and also, you know, not just and also, you know, not just private of national, private versions of national, but also cosmetic dentistry has become why become a massive business. Why why would they want to, you know , time giving , waste their time giving check ups to like, you know. Check ups to like, you know. Good point. Well, yeah, i mean, we just need to copy america whatever theyre they theyre doing with teeth. They absolutely i mean, absolutely nailed it. I mean, but cant afford that, we but if we cant afford that, we should back to dentures should just go back to dentures as a of of the total as a kind of symbol of the total decline of this country. By the way, the way theyre saying theyre get way, the way theyre saying th million get way, the way theyre saying th million from getting get way, the way theyre saying th million from getting rid. Way, the way theyre saying th million from getting rid of 111 million from getting rid of the controversial non dom status. Is, status. The only question is, will all those non doms leave the country and take their money away . It could away . But but maybe it could work. Dont work. I dont know. Never seen an incoming i have never seen an Incoming Party spend the same sum of money so many different money in so many different places. Literally places. Its literally everything being for everything is being spent for that. It for that. But anyway, thats it for part coming loose cheney part two coming up, loose cheney has gold. Brighton fans part two coming up, loose cheney has havejold. Brighton fans part two coming up, loose cheney has havejo ball. � ighton fans part two coming up, loose cheney has havejo ball. Cambridge dont have a ball. Cambridge library has a recall. Well see industry, youre listening to gb news radio. News radio. Hello. Welcome back to headliners. Were into the final stretch now. Well, no , the back stretch now. Well, no, the back nine, i should say. Stretch now. Well, no, the back nine, i should say. Nick stretch now. Well, no, the back nine, i should say. Nick the nine, i should say. Nick the guardian to kick us off some good Old Fashioned from liz cheney. Its been too long. Indeed. Trump is single most dangerous threat to the us warns republican. I might stick some inverted commas in liz cheney so the guardians calling her a yes. Well, the guardian says moderate. I say rhino. You know, when the guardians back in the repubuc when the guardians back in the republic and they theyre a moderate, apparently ridiculous rhino and she says he rhino person and she says he cannot be the next president because if he is all the things he do but was he attempted to do but was stopped from doing by responsible aka deep responsible people, aka the deep state, she said state, he will do, she said therell be no guardrails. Good god, would be great. And god, that would be great. And then, guardian then, of course, the guardian called Capitol Attack called the Capitol Attack deadly. They think jan deadly. I imagine they think jan six was worse than anything hamas has done. Cant hamas has done. But i cant confirm i suppose it confirm that. But i suppose it was deadly for poor ashli babbitt. But anyway, the point is there mouthing is shes just there mouthing off, would off, saying trump would be terrible. Wouldnt to terrible. We wouldnt be able to stop and it does show their stop him. And it does show their fear one might fear of trump. Hence, one might say all these allegations in their attempt to him in their attempt to put him in prison. Think what prison. So do you think what shes referring to because obviously the 6th obviously january the 6th was slightly extra program slightly extra to his program of legislation , administration, legislation, administration, whatever you want call it, whatever you want to call it, his Foreign Policy. Although i tend to think and although i tend to think it was slightly overblown and was for political capital, was used for political capital, it little outrageous it was a little bit outrageous that attempted to i think he that he attempted to i think he probably did urge coax the protesters to try and interfere with the smooth transition of power, certainly, anyway, thats how they say. Is that what she means . They will have a means . That they will have a dictator, that this will run over four years . Over for four years . Thing that she means the thing that trump want that this time trump fans want that this time hell come in, hell get rid of all people that stopped him all the people that stopped him doing their doing things before their version aka the version of the blob, aka the deep state. Now we understand free takes more. Thats free takes a bit more. Thats what think she means. And she what i think she means. And she hopefully but hopefully shes right. But thats why theyre thats of course why theyre putting prison want to putting him in prison or want to putting him in prison or want to put him in prison. I steve, you will have i mean, steve, you will have a different view on this. But so when i was reading this, it was more this, i was thinking it was more about just the january 6th, about not just the january 6th, but of not admitting or but the idea of not admitting or accepting youve lost an accepting that youve lost an election, which seems to a election, which seems to be a fundamental how fundamental foundation of how a democracy so the democracy needs to work. So the worry be if he gets in worry would be if he gets in with no intention of ever admitting losing an election, regardless of how plays out regardless of how it plays out with ability remove with the ability to remove more of wouldnt agree of the people who wouldnt agree with yes. He would start create so he would start to create a tyranny, essentially such nonsense. I mean, its such a boogie man. He did leave, didnt he . Did leave. He did leave. He did leave. He did leave. He did leave. He did leave. Was never going to stay. He was never going to stay. Absolute he was never going to stay. Abs he te did he was never going to stay. Abshete did he lost he never did that. He lost the election. He doesnt admit hes lost. He he said it wasnt fair, he said he said it wasnt fair, but still left. Weve but he still left. And weve been this times. Been through this many times. But we do have clips which we have shown on here occasionally of refusing to of Hillary Clinton refusing to accept was a fair accept that it was a fair election, that the russian interference carter interference made jemmy carter illegitimate, which loads of people illegitimate people said he was illegitimate and exactly what and said, yeah, exactly what trump what trump did. He moved but mouthed off he moved on but mouthed off about what hillary did. Im going to say, though, liz cheneyis im going to say, though, liz cheney is literally the daughter of dick cheney, literally of dick cheney, who literally like engineered and pushed through the single greatest catastrophe foreign catastrophe in American Foreign policy 50 years. I policy of the last 50 years. I mean , certainly the mean, certainly since the vietnam war, the invasion of iraq destabilised the entire region. Europe is still cleaning up mess well. I mean, up the mess as well. I mean, theyve whatever else you had from trump and i think there is some like plausibility to the nofion some like plausibility to the notion that american notion that an american president is far more important on the world stage is in on the world stage than he is in domestic whether the domestic politics. Whether the you know, the dollar is strong domestic politics. Whether the yo weak n, the dollar is strong domestic politics. Whether the yo weak orthe dollar is strong domestic politics. Whether the yo weak or whatever, is strong domestic politics. Whether the yo weak or whatever, theres g or weak or whatever, theres jobs whatever, that jobs created or whatever, that isnt president s isnt really the president s job. Foreign policy is job. But his Foreign Policy is important. Job. But his Foreign Policy is important. And trumps effect on the world, despite everyone saying, oh, my god, this madman, this has got his this crazed lunatic, has got his fingers the on the nuclear fingers on the on the Nuclear Codes was a four years of extraordinary tranquillity compared with what came before and certainly what has come since. I mean, weve now got to absolutely terrifying world events. I mean , the fact that events. I mean, the fact that ukraine has been forgotten by this in israel, he this outrage in israel, he managed to kill a significant syrian no iranian , you know, syrian no iranian, you know, assassin and so on. And everyones saying, oh, my goodness, no reprisal whatsoever, no trouble broke out at all under trump. It was the deterrence approach. It was dealing with things and was things like that. And it was threats to china with things like as well. Like tariffs as well. Now old reputations telegraph now old reputations die in europe as italian die hard in europe as italian tank to their tank managers know, to their cost. Tank managers know, to their cost. This is tank managers know, to their cost. This is english fans cost. So this is english fans are seen as targets. Apparently football related when with away supporters treated like animals in europe. Its a special report in the telegraph and it man alive it goes into a lot of details but basically its that they treated badly the police sometimes badly by the police sometimes travel is cancelled leaving them stranded. Terrible way to treat people. Half stranded. Terrible way to treat people. Half of stranded. Terrible way to treat people. Half of says its people. Half of it says its because we still have the reputation of being the hooligans, which i believe was in europe, known as the english disease, which of course now is diabetes. But it was football. Hooliganism also , theres hooliganism also, theres probably whiff of fact probably a whiff of the fact some countries dont the some countries dont like the brits. Maybe then you get you get almost to the end of it and it says, oh, and also away fans from treated from other countries are treated badly, the whole angle badly, too. So the whole angle of this, the english cooked up a bit, you think . Definitely. Its more that just treating more that they are just treating away badly. Away fans badly. Messaged a mate about yeah, i messaged a mate about this theres one match. This because theres one match. Brighton badly in brighton fans treated badly in marseilles in a cage. Marseilles and held in a cage. And happened ages and he said that happened ages ago. Know. I mean, you ago. I dont know. I mean, you said its a special report, but if anything more if there was anything more recent, would would carry recent, it would it would carry a weight if they hadnt a bit more weight if they hadnt had cook up one had to sort of cook up one particular example. But i dont know that still have know that they do still have that reputation, though. That bad reputation, though. Generally i think generally speaking, i think actually eased i actually that has eased off. I mean, it was a long it was 85, wasnt it . The heysel stadium and and we had a ban for and so on. And we had a ban for five that is lifetime five years. That is a lifetime ago. The five years. That is a lifetime ago. The the south gate. Not ago. The of the south gate. Not that a particular that im a particular football fan, but i mean hes changed the entire culture of the game really hasnt he. Doesnt really hasnt he. It doesnt feel like a like feel quite so much like a like its gravitation pull its a natural gravitation pull to you probably would have you probably would have agreed if it werent for that image my head of that guy image in my head of that guy with fireworks where it with the fireworks where it shouldnt be. There always that one yes. There is always that one man caged animals. Now, man more caged animals. Now, nick guardian. Nick in the guardian. Is lobby groups yeah. This is lobby groups for dirty against eu for hard and dirty against eu ban farm animals. So ban on caged farm animals. So the wanted to ban it, wanted the eu wanted to ban it, wanted to a ban on using cages for to have a ban on using cages for hens, broilers, pigs, calves, rabbits and quails. And 89 of european citizens apparently supported they have supported this. But do they have a about farming is the a clue about farming is the point . Because the actual people who for farming who are responsible for farming say production disappear say production will disappear from if they brought this from europe if they brought this in. Theyve lobbying in. So theyve been lobbying hard against and thats hard against it and thats essentially the thing. Its like a kind of independent belgian movie or something crime movie or something about crime in the meat. There is actually a movie like that the guy that movie like that by the guy that directed drop thats why directed the drop thats why thats head. I can see thats in my head. I can see this being a kind of gritty movie. I feel like quails, you know . I mean, these are not the things generally speaking, things that, generally speaking, excite the attention of activists theyre activists are they . Theyre more usually, like your usually, you know, like your large factory farmed your large Scale Factory farmed your pigs, large Scale Factory farmed your pigs, your sheep. Pigs, your sheep, your sheep. Sorry theyre the hills. Sorry theyre out on the hills. Theyre. Theyre creating deserts, cage farming. It kind deserts, cage farming. It kind of chickens and of depends. Chickens and turkeys, where have turkeys, things where you have to beaks salted off turkeys, things where you have to something. eaks salted off or something. Just which side it just depends which side youre doesnt it . Remember youre on, doesnt it . Remember that quote that Alan Partridge quote about bernard it Bernard Matthews . Ive got it here. He says, hes either responsible for the biggest ornithological genocide of recent times or hes the greatest table greatest farmyard to table strategist last hundred strategist of the last hundred years. Reminded years. Thats what this reminded me well, he is very yeah, well, he is very norfolk centric, isnt he . Of course, partridge you course, partridge do you remember that also the plot remember that was also the plot to on her majestys secret service you remember service as well was you remember all girls were being kind all those girls were being kind of joanna and of hypnotised, Joanna Lumley and so was a load bond so on. There was a load of bond girls being hypnotised. I think so on. There was a load of bond giwas. Ing hypnotised. I think it was. Blofeld was this the official version . This version . Simon yeah, this is this the book and then the this is the book and then the movie with it was the one off chat, wasnt it . The one who only did it . Lazenby. Lazenby yeah. Yeah. It was bizarre. But blofeld was just bizarre. But blofeld wanted establish himself as wanted to establish himself as part british aristocracy wanted to establish himself as pa something, tish aristocracy wanted to establish himself as pa something, ish aristocracy wanted to establish himself as pasomething, i think. Stocracy or something, i think. And meanwhile plan to meanwhile, he had a plan to hypnotise girls who would then go in and create. And were hypnotise girls who would then go going i create. And were hypnotise girls who would then go going beeate. And were hypnotise girls who would then go going be industrial were hypnotise girls who would then go going be industrial sabotage. To going be industrial sabotage. And one of the things they were heading for was was turkey. A its so this it sounds like a its so this sounds off fan sounds like a spin off fan fiction me. Fiction to me. Know. It really is i know. It really is extraordinary. Daily i know. It really is extraordinary. Daily mail i know. It really is extraordinary. Daily mail now, extraordinary. Daily mail now, steve academia slips even further full blown further into full blown theocracy with the introduction of librorum of an index Librorum Prohibitorum the im amazed you got through that. That must have taken some practise. University of Cambridge Library lecturers to flag problematic books that might be offensive harmful, might be offensive or harmful, but actually they are asking the lecturers identify the things lecturers to identify the things that have already is that they have already said. Is harmful, effectively harmful, that they effectively flagged. So we dont necessary know. Well, the quote is we would like to hear from colleagues across cambridge about any books you have flagged as problematic, flagged to you. So are they also going to flag them as problematic or are they simply list of ones simply making a list of ones that have been flagged as i mean, these are archivists with nothing do. Are probably nothing to do. They are probably like a are either way it like a list are either way it feels because dont feels worrying because we dont know sinister. Know a tiny bit sinister. But perhaps is being beefed up the the papers. Up by the by the papers. Its the daily mail, so well its the daily mail, so i would be quite i suppose it would be quite handy have an example of what handy to have an example of what might amount to problematic, isnt if there is because i mean, if there is something saying that concentration camps are not all bad something theyre bad or something and theyre being is a politics being i mean, this is a politics class, right . Yeah. Yes, theres lot well and yes, theres a lot of then second half of this of then the second half of this goes too. You do have to goes on too. But you do have to learn you have to learn about some fairly horrific political regimes you to your regimes if you want to take your politics level, dont politics to phd level, dont you . Yeah, but you can still learn if its learn from the book if its flagged problematic. Yeah, flagged as problematic. Yeah, that you cant flagged as problematic. Yeah, that it. You cant flagged as problematic. Yeah, that it. Its you cant flagged as problematic. Yeah, that it. Its heres you cant flagged as problematic. Yeah, that it. Its heres a you cant flagged as problematic. Yeah, that it. Its heres a book, � ant flagged as problematic. Yeah, that it. Its heres a book, byt read it. Its heres a book, by the way. There will be some stuff in there that might sit with for a while. With you for a while. This chap was a bit too keen on the old. Yeah, yeah. I mean, if thats what it is like, if wanted to make a like, if we wanted to make a list the books that have been list of the books that have been deemed as problematic, wed be doing them. Doing the same as them. Or maybe stand up comics that we as problematic. We regard as problematic. Unfortunately there is such a list on it. List and were all on it. Its just a disaster, isnt it . Depher universities, it . Depher great universities, though. I mean, dr. James always been my podcast. The current been on my podcast. The current thing libraries thing says Research Libraries should the should not be joining the culture of those culture wars. Which one of those absurd statements . Hes completely that absurd statements . Hes complended that absurd statements . Hes complended the that absurd statements . Hes complended the research at weve ended up the Research Libraries now are in the culture wars. There any is there wars. Is there any is there anything left . Saying . Whats the old saying . The war. Not interested war. You may not be interested in the war, but the war is interested in you. Nick, interested in you. Yes nick, Child Exploitation in Child Exploitation news now in the why do i always the daily mail. Why do i always find out about these schemes too late . Sure what late . Im not totally sure what that means, but this is should four olds have instagram four year olds have Instagram Accounts . A debate so its a debate between vicky broadbent, whos a blogger. And marvin blogger. Apparently and marvin harrison, whos podcaster harrison, whos a podcaster on good im not good morning britain. Im not sure but sure why its a story, but anyway, heart of it is anyway, at the heart of it is should child have should your child have an instagram because Instagram Account . Because i never it because never have to face it because i dont have child. But i think never have to face it because i d canhave child. But i think never have to face it because i d can bee child. But i think never have to face it because i d can be a child. But i think never have to face it because i d can be a bit1ild. But i think never have to face it because i d can be a bit creepy. T i think never have to face it because i d can be a bit creepy. Ii think never have to face it because i d can be a bit creepy. I mean, it can be a bit creepy. I mean, theres four year old thats theres a four year old thats talking about four old with talking about four year old with millions followers and this talking about four year old with m my ns followers and this talking about four year old with m my point. Ollowers and this is my point. I watched a bit of the the i watched a bit of the clip preparation and the clip in preparation and the chap, marvin, did you say his name anyway, he he name was anyway, he was he thought exploitative name was anyway, he was he thought it exploitative name was anyway, he was he thought it was exploitative name was anyway, he was he thought it was beingtative name was anyway, he was he thought it was being done for because it was being done for money. Quite bit money. You do make quite a bit of money if youve got millions of money if youve got millions of followers instagram. Of followers on instagram. I think just advertising think its just advertising whatever. Created whatever. But so theyve created this kid and people whatever. But so theyve created this it. Kid and people whatever. But so theyve created this it. I kid and people whatever. But so theyve created this it. I guesskid and people whatever. But so theyve created this it. I guess itsand people whatever. But so theyve created this it. I guess its justpeople follow it. I guess its just a series youre kind of going, series and youre kind of going, that weird. That is a bit weird. Why are you following that . Yeah, of yeah, ive seen sort of influencers bringing their kids like something, like Grant Cardone or something, and that and theyre older and that seems perfectly and theyre older and that seems per theres a few dogs, but theres quite a few dogs, but a separate child account a bit odd. Maybe its even worse than just advertising. Its deals maybe its even worse than just. Whoevers. Its deals maybe its even worse than just. Whoevers mar a lago brands. Yeah, right. Yeah, right. Showing you, so youre showing you, i mean, one shopping, mean, its one step shopping, maybe. Four year maybe. Yeah. Youre a four year old its feeding old vaping. Its like feeding a burger got mad burger to you. Its not got mad cow in cow disease in it. Thats part three in the bag coming up in the final section, we rising, the we have sea levels rising, the moon elon musk moon is rising and elon musk getting rise out of wales. Getting a rise out of wales. Well and welcome back to headliners. So, steve, Global Warming news now in the metro. It looks like its time for barack obama to sell his beachfront property. Yeah, humans have missed the chance to stop Antarctic Ice melting. Thats it. No need to worry about it now. Scientists have warned. So apparently weve lost control. We humans have lost control. We humans have lost control. We humans have lost control of the melting of the Antarctic Ice. Its the west. Antarctic ice. Its got glaciers in there. So it actually does add water to the oceans. And theres nothing we can do about it now. So weve missed the opportunity to keep the amount of carbon below it. Its its what i find its yeah, its what i find interesting about the way that some people and besides some people talk and besides some people talk and besides some people talk and besides some people arguments some people, the arguments i have with about have on tiktok with people about about Climate Change because the thing about the thing that you say about the way the left argues they say the left argues things, they say its happening they it its not happening. They say it is its too is happening, but its not too bad. They say it is bad. And then they say it is happening its good its happening and its good its happening. The same argument is happening. The same argument is happ people just go, oh, is it . People just go, oh, thats not happening . Or actually, its actually good actually, no, its actually good to a little of carbon to get a little bit of carbon dioxide. Well its dioxide. Well actually, its we had grow better. Had a things will grow better. Yeah argument there yeah theres the argument there are of this i are loads of clips of this i dont mean i certainly dont i mean i certainly dont believe that i dont want to see loads more carbon dioxide. Believe that i dont want to see loa i; more carbon dioxide. Believe that i dont want to see loa i; morewanton dioxide. Believe that i dont want to see loa i; morewanton dioxsea i dont want to see sea levels and be quite levels rising. And id be quite happy can come up with a happy if they can come up with a workable slow it down or workable plan to slow it down or put reverse. Suppose put it into reverse. I suppose its its the climate its just the its the climate of fear that is created, which i dont necessarily dont think is necessarily helpful. Slightly helpful. If anything slightly paralysed also paralysed, you know, and also the endless hot air. Hot air, you know what i mean . You did two points there. Climate. Pm w i remember i was at university 83 to 86, and i knew somebody who was doing environmental then and somebody who was doing envircabouttal then and somebody who was doing envircabouttal warming. And knew about Global Warming. I mean, slightly mean, they maybe used slightly different terminology that different terminology at that point. Its been around for a very and all that very long time and all that seems have been done about it seems to have been done about it is endless guilt tripping and, you panic mongering. You know, panic mongering. Yeah, have nothing of value yeah, i have nothing of value to contribute to this other than yeah, i have nothing of value to itontribute to this other than yeah, i have nothing of value to it istribute to this other than yeah, i have nothing of value to it is t00|te to this other than yeah, i have nothing of value to it is too late this other than yeah, i have nothing of value to it is too late already. |er than yeah, i have nothing of value to it is too late already. Why an if it is too late already. Why not just get a load petrol not just get a load of petrol cars, eat load of meat and get cars, eat a load of meat and get air con in in this room, cars, eat a load of meat and get airthis in in this room, cars, eat a load of meat and get airthis in it in this room, cars, eat a load of meat and get airthis in it wouldis room, cars, eat a load of meat and get airthis in it would beoom, cars, eat a load of meat and get airthis in it would be a m, cars, eat a load of meat and get airthis in it would be a good in this room . It would be a good start. News for start. Its bad news for norfolk, good news for norfolk, but its good news for nottingham by the sea. You go. Youve turned there you go. Youve turned into those guys now daily into one of those guys now daily star. According x, star. Now, nick. According to x, elon offered wikipedia elon musk has offered wikipedia a billion dollars to change its name , though to name, though according to wikipedia, a big, smelly wikipedia, hes a big, smelly poo head. Poo head. Interesting. Yeah. This is elon musk offers wikipedia 1 billion to make a very explicit change to its name, which we cant say, but its basically wikipedia. But starting with a d. Wikipedia. But starting with a d, think say that. And d, i think we can say that. And he ill give him 1 he said, ill give him 1 billion. Also said, in billion. And he also said, in the of accuracy, which the interests of accuracy, which is point, if you is a good point, because if you read wikipedia, its just like everyones its just everyones far right. Its just thats about everyone. True. Dont know certainly true. I dont know if but a number of if musk is, but a number of people political opinions people whose political opinions i find quite interesting and, you know, a worthwhile contribution to the debate are written in first written off in the first paragraph would have paragraph as if you would have to absolute swivel eyed to be an absolute swivel eyed lunatic take person lunatic to take this person seriously. Lunatic to take this person seriousljtheyve got you think the and theyve got you think the problem and problem is theyre editing and not in that i do think that not you in that i do think that noficed not you in that i do think that noticed a pattern but and he also question also asked a question have you ever the wikimedia ever wondered why the Wikimedia Foundation wants so much money . Because theyre you know, because theyre always asking for donations. But then said then someones actually said it certainly operate certainly isnt to operate wikipedia. Literally fit certainly isnt to operate wcopydia. Literally fit certainly isnt to operate wcopydiathe literally fit certainly isnt to operate wcopydiathe ltext lly fit certainly isnt to operate wcopydiathe [text on fit a copy of the entire text on your phone. Community your phone. But then Community Notes platform notes on his own platform actually and said, actually answered this and said, the Wikimedia Foundation is a charitable providing the Wikimedia Foundation is a char access providing the Wikimedia Foundation is a characcess wikipedia viding the Wikimedia Foundation is a characcess wikipedia while| free access to wikipedia while a text english only copy of text and english only copy of wikipedia is about 51gb, so you could fit it on your phone. All media supported languages media and supported languages bnngs media and supported languages brings to 428tb, so you brings it to 428tb, so you couldnt possibly do it. But hang on, he wasnt talking about all of the text on wikipedia. He was talking about the need order to wikipedia. He was talking about the wikipedia1eed order to wikipedia. He was talking about the wikipedia. Ed order to run wikipedia. Surely you still have to store somewhere. Yeah. Store the text somewhere. Yeah. Yeah, you do. But thats not what talking about. What he was talking about. He was about simple was talking about how simple wikipedia editing wikipedia is to run the Editing Software and everything. Im absolutely convinced of that. Is currently rated helpful. Ill you where. Ill ill tell you where. Ill tell money tell you where the money goes, because story because somebody did a story about this about six, maybe a year ago is quite sinister. Well, it depends on how feel well, it depends on how you feel about it goes to about it. But it goes to a number of nonprofits that wikipedia considered and deemed to of which to be worthwhile, many of which are call hard left. Are what i would call hard left. Thats because you are but thats because you are supposedly civilised. Yeah, exactly. Yeah. Exactly. Yeah. They are. They are. But they are. They are. Theyre kind of promoting you know, i dont know, trans this or you know, certain kind of endeavours in education in america or whatever , the kind of america or whatever, the kind of stuff that is certainly wouldnt be, you wouldnt think you would donating to necessarily just by giving 2 a month to be able to use wikipedia. Its nothing to do with running it. Its nothing to do with helping the voluntary. You know, the hard working ladies and, you know, making tea lovely making the tea and the lovely spread after the after the match. Its all about having some of political reach off some sort of political reach off the back of it. And not the back of it. And its not even jemmy wales, i dont even run by jemmy wales, i dont think. Telegraph now think. Anyway telegraph now steve borrows light that steve and she borrows light that through night mankind may through the night mankind may all acclaim and truth to tell she lights up well so i for one dont blame her. You gilbert and sullivan. That was you getting your moon out. Yeah. Luna crystals show that the moon is 400 million years older than previously thought. Looks great on it, though. Got to admit that theyve made this discovery by looking samples from nasas looking at samples from nasas apollo in 1972. Right. Apollo mission in 1972. Right. So i want to add in, theres also a chance they grabbed the newer bit of the moon. It could be older. We dont really know. But its at least that but we know its at least that old. The moon is 40 million years than previously years older than previously thought. Still bad news for creationists. Its these zircon crystals theyve managed to crystals that theyve managed to find. Radioactive decay, find. And by radioactive decay, this is you date things. This is how you date things. Its carbon dating, but its like carbon dating, but without the carbon. Theyve worked that older. Its worked out that its older. Its not going to change not really going to change anyones slightly anyones lives. Might slightly mess or mess up our horoscope or two, but impressive. But its impressive. Incredible its its incredible that its taken after 50 taken all this time after 50 years, the moon landing years, after the moon landing now. Was going to say, now. Well, i was going to say, when do you think humans will manage to land on it . Youve with it but youve gone with it. It did a bit go. Did happen. It seems a bit go. This is why you cant trust scientists, isnt it . Million scientists, isnt it . 40 million years its all years off. Come on, its all nonsense. Every day of nonsense. But the every day of 6000 years is further, far more likely. Likely. And cheese as well. Of and cheese as well. Of course, nick, the male have a story about bananas that manages to get the single most famous factoid about bananas wrong. Factoid about bananas wrong. Well, do you want to tell us what the factoid is . Theyre not really fruit. Theyre not really a fruit. Theyre not really a fruit. What are they . Good point. What are they . I think theyre a or theyre think theyre a seed or theyre a of legume. Its a herb. A kind of legume. Its a herb. Yeah, a herb. Thats right. Theyre a meat kind of insect. Theyre a fake meat. So its. Scientists warn cavendish bananas could extinct as bananas could go extinct as catastrophic fungal disease is about to wipe out the worlds most popular type of fake meat. So, yeah, you do. So the cavendish banana accounts for 47 of the global banana production. As you know, it used production. As you know, it used to be gros michel or big mike. It was the main type. But then he got wiped out. But now this tr4, known also as panama tr4, of course , threatens to wipe of course, threatens to wipe this of course , they this one out. Of course, they can up with way of can just come up with a way of not letting happen, which not letting that happen, which they will, says. They probably will, he says. At they probably will, he says. At the the article. But im the end of the article. But im amazed they cant just print them at this point. Why them out at this point. Why cant they can cant we just clone . They can put a human ear on a put ears on a human ear on a mouse. We cant make bananas a banana. Mouse. We cant make bananas a bari na. Mouse. We cant make bananas a bari agree you. What do you i agree with you. What do you think, steve . Ive got a banana fact ive got a quick banana fact for actually. Yeah, the for you, actually. Yeah, the banana flavour that you get in sweets of sweets was based on a type of banana thats not around anymore. Dont anymore. Thats why they dont taste like bananas. They dont taste like bananas. They dont taste like bananas. They dont taste like bananas. And i had assumed was taste like bananas. Ibecausei assumed was taste like bananas. Ibecause they jmed was taste like bananas. Ibecause they were was taste like bananas. Ibecause they were chemical just because they were chemical crap. No no, they actually was quite crap. No no, they actually was quione another quick thing is one another quick thing is the disease attacks the vascular system. Something system. If youve got something that banana that looks like a banana and its on it, veiny its got veins on it, veiny bananas, another, bananas, theres another, another way of selling those. The 90 of bananas in 20 denmark get turned denmark villas get turned into banana know banana bread. I dont know if you but you can extrapolate that, but they bought deliberately they are bought deliberately to allow so that they allow them to rot so that they can then used when can then be used to say when will engineer one that is will they engineer one that is right 10s ones right for more than 10s the ones we have now go from green to brown unless eat them in brown unless you eat them in that ten second window when theyre the full moon. Theyre struck by the full moon. Yeah. 4 08 am. Finally steve, the happy, sad story of the night as we bid farewell to bobby. I wish i could care more about this. The worlds oldest dog dies at 31. That that headune dog dies at 31. That that headline again old dog dies. Hes 31 years old and this picture is adorable. Picture is adorable. Well, there he is, another dog that looks like you. You with goldfish. Like you do with goldfish. Like you do with goldfish. Are lovely. Do you no, dogs are lovely. Do you not dogs . Youre not a dog, not have dogs . Youre not a dog, man. I like dogs, but man. I mean, i like dogs, but i expect that they die , especially expect that they die, especially with than 31. With ages less than 31. Why are not just. So why are we not just. So why are we not just. Had always assumed that i had always assumed that steve no, no steve had a soul and no, no interior monologue. Rational. Yeah just coldly rational. Yeah just coldly rational. Yeah cold. Might as well go and cold. He might as well go and get a on gmb mate. You and i get a job on gmb mate. You and i will about the dog for will banter about the dog for the remaining half a minute. You had a whole show about. Well, we could have. Nothing sadder than theres nothing sadder than losing an old dog and this dog. And said, him . And and they said, you see him . And it the owner it would remind you, the owner said of people, humans that have passed used know him , passed that used to know him, which pretty in a dog which is pretty rare in a dog that dog spans human that the dog spans human lifetimes than other lifetimes rather than the other way about the humans, not sad about the humans, not the dead dog. He also survived being put down shortly birth down shortly after his birth because so he was because he escaped. So he was a fighter heart. Fighter at heart. Right on that box. Oh yeah. The dostoyevsky survived before a firing squad. The show is nearly over. Lets take another quick look at tuesdays front pages. So we have the daily mail videos that prove the depraved ity of hamas terrorists. The telegraph eu terrorists. The telegraph eu clash with uk and us on ceasefire. The guardian bombed embodiment of gaza continues amid talks to free more hostages. The times sunak chanting jihad is threat to our democracy. Is threat to our democracy. Financial times chevron doubles down on fossil fuel wager with 53 billion swoop for hess , the 53 billion swoop for hess, the daily star is there mice on mars . Its a pun. Those were your front pages. Thats all we have front pages. Thats all we have time for. Thank you to my guests, steven allen, nick dixon. Ill be back tomorrow with leo kurz and josh howie. Thanks very much for watching. Night coming up. Weve got a very busy show. Your feedback is what its all about. Mark gb news dot com. The emails come straight to my laptop. So a busy show strap yourselves in. It is 9 00. Im mark dolan and this is gb news tonight. And mark dolan and this is gb news tonight. And breaking this evening, nigel farage has exposed more shocking political bias at the heart of the Natwest Group who tried to de banking him in a bombshell 600 page document. Staff at coutts are document. Staff at coutts are quoted as calling nigel racist a shameless grifter and a crackpot , what with one even wanting to throw a milkshake at him. And very shortly nigel farage joins me live to give his exclusive reaction to these extraordinary and equally disturbing revelations means elsewhere. Welcome to the uk. In 2023, where you can chant anti semitic slogans and call forjihad. Slogans and call for jihad. Whilst our woke police force. Just stand by and do nothing. Ill call out these attacks against israel and democracy as we know it in my big opinion next. And im not pulling my punches. The police are institutionally woke institutionally woke institutionally biased and institutionally biased and institutionally useless. Then my pundits react. Tonight at carole malone, benjamin buttennorth and beunda malone, benjamin buttennorth and belinda de lucy , plus a former belinda de lucy, plus a former israeli Prime Minister, Naftali Naftali bennett has launched a stunning attack on the bbc. If you think theres a balance here between two equal sides , then you are lacking sides, then you are lacking moral clarity and bbc. I must say, is lacking moral clarity. Say, is lacking moral clarity. So has the corporations coverage of the israel hamas war brought shame on britain . John mayor craig duncan and Charlie Lawson are riled up and ready for the clash and has the conflict thrown the labour party into chaos after 23 councillors quit over comments like these from keir starmer . From keir starmer . A siege is appropriate cutting off power, cutting off water sophia. I think that israel does have that right. I think that israel does have that right. It is an ongoing situation in one particular councillor has just cut up her Party Membership in half and she lets rip on the Labour Party Leader very shortly. Leader very shortly. As always youll get a first look at tomorrows newspaper front pages, hot off the press and fleet street icon Kelvin Mackenzie uncancelled later mackenzie is uncancelled later in the show, a blockbuster two hours up with my hours coming up with my big opinion next and woke british policing. First, here are the News Headlines and polly middlehurst. Middlehurst. Mark, thank you and good evening. Well, we start this bulletin with some breaking news thats come to us in the last houn thats come to us in the last hour. Two elderly female israeli captives just released by hamas have arrived at the rafah crossing. Thats immediately to the south of gaza. And thats according to egypts state news agency. We understand they are now in the hands of the International Red cross. These are photographs , if youre are photographs, if youre watching on television, released by the terror group hamas. And by the terror group hamas. And they are believed to be the faces of the two hostages that have been released. Israeli have been released. Israeli media has been commenting tonight and they have said the terror Group Released these hostages on humanitarian grounds after a deal brokered between qatari and