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Had the opportunity to meet families of british nationals who have been taken hostage. We are doing absolutely everything we can to get them home. Nine britons are now known to have died in the hamas attacks earlier this month with seven still missing. Meanwhile israel continues to strike what it calls hamas targets in gaza. Calls hamas targets in gaza. Palestinian Authorities Say more than 3700 people have died in the enclave and some 12,000 people have been injured. People have been injured. Israels defence minister has told troops theyll soon see gaza from the inside ahead of the expected ground offensive. The expected ground offensive. The International Charity action against hunger says the lack of food and water in gaza is leading to a Health Crisis on the brink of explosion. However the brink of explosion. However egypts state media is reporting that the rafah crossing is set to open for a few hours tomorrow to open for a few hours tomorrow to allow aid into gaza. The us President Joe Biden, announced yesterday hed secured a deal with egypt to allow in 20 lorries carrying humanitarian aid. Many more are queuing at the border. The un says 100 lorries of aid are needed per day to address the deepening crisis. Asylum seekers have crisis. Asylum seekers have returned to the bibby stockholm in portland, despite activists attempting to prevent it from happening. Just stop Oil Protesters obstructed a coach carrying migrants holding banners reading no prison ships and demand humanity. All 39 people were removed from the barge in august after legionella bacteria was discovered. A 57 bacteria was discovered. A 57 year old woman has died after being swept into a river in angus in scotland as storm babet batters the country. The red weather warning means theres a risk to life with extensive flooding and winds stronger than 70 miles an hour, forecast. More 70 miles an hour, forecast. More than 400 homes have been asked to evacuate in brecon. Thousands more have been left without power and are facing unprecedented amounts of rain. Unprecedented amounts of rain. Meanwhile, four flood warnings have been issued for parts of Northern England and the midlands , with the storm set to midlands, with the storm set to sweep southwards on friday. This is gb news. Thats it for the moment. Now its time for headliners. Headliners. Hello and welcome to headliners. Im josh howie. And joining me tonight to help make sense of fridays newspapers are steve and alan, whos just released an impressive song about marvel films about the marvel films on twitter. And nick dixon, whom twitter. And nick dixon, whom i believe you said you were thinking about starting a podcast something, got two thinking about starting a podc popular mething, got two thinking about starting a podc popular podcasts. Got two very popular podcasts. It. Yeah, yeah, very popular podcasts. It. Yeah, yeah, man. You did it. Yeah, yeah, man. The weekly sceptic and the current thing available now. There we go. Okay, well, there we go. Thank so much. Thank you so much. Well, you asked and i answered as a joke. We. I should explain that nick and i get a taxi home every night and we talk about your nick and i get a taxi home every night anquite talk about your nick and i get a taxi home every night anquite extensively. Our podcast quite extensively. In silence we dont. You sit in silence checking who hates you on twitter. Thats true. Thats true. Well, tonight will be a fun journey right . Lets take journey home, right . Lets take a fridays, a quick look at fridays, fridays, front pages. We have the no the daily mail. There is no forgiveness thing, only forgiveness for this thing, only total annihilation of hamas. Total annihilation of hamas. Well you will soon see well sue you will soon see gaza from the inside telegraph. Gaza from the inside telegraph. Get ready to see gaza from the inside. A guardian warning that relief convoy for gaza too little, too late. The times do a bit to ease israels crisis. Sunak earns saudis urges and mirror reckless and callous. Finally, the daily star frieze and those we are front pages. And those we are front pages. And we are going to begin with the daily mail. Steve yep, their front page has the headline. There is no forgiveness for this thing, only total annihilation of hamas. You will soon see gaza from the inside. This is the dramatic address as they call it, on the front page by israelis. Israels defence minister. Theres before the internet goes crazy. If you the internet goes crazy. If you look at this, only total of nine annihilation of hamas. This is saying get rid of the terrorist capacity. The tunnels, the terrorists. Thats before you kick off the internet because i know what the internet is like. This is not saying attack all of palestine getting rid of all of genocide and all of the other big words. So thats actually quite balanced when you think what this is. This is a speech on the eve of battle not known for the for the of nuance. The being, the home of nuance. These meant to be stirring these are meant to be stirring addresses than lets take addresses rather than lets take this wider and this whole wider picture and debate which i think is debate it, which i think is interesting add into it. Its interesting to add into it. Its not churchill was like, not like churchill was like, were were going to get were just were going to get the top echelon leave the the top echelon and leave the german citizens alone and whatnot. Didnt necessarily make that distinction time. Distinction at the time. And an interesting and its an interesting distinction to have, and its good that its there because you know the internet is like. Know what the internet is like. But people seem to mix up the category talking category that theyre talking about. Instead of just about. If you instead ofjust talking about hamas, about terrorists, that youre terrorists, to think that youre talking larger of talking about a larger group of people, where the people, thats often where the argument problems. So argument falls into problems. So its worth bringing that its always worth bringing that back well the back to that. Well if the internet to pedantic, internet wanted to be pedantic, they could say theres the hamas government militant government and the militant branch, the Political Branch, theres the Political Branch, theres the Political Branch militant branch and the militant branch. Obviously they mean the but obviously they mean the militant branch. But yeah, theyre the same. Militant branch. But yeah, the� well the same. Militant branch. But yeah, the� well , the same. Militant branch. But yeah, the� well , if the same. Militant branch. But yeah, the� well , if the the same. Militant branch. But yeah, the� well , if the internet me. Militant branch. But yeah, the� well , if the internet uses well, if the internet uses quite a lot. Yeah, they are the quite a lot. Yeah, they are the same. Right. Same. Yeah, right. Literally the same from the from the, from the palestine side. There was someone on pointing that the day. That out the other day. Would that. So im they would say that. So im just im here giving just suppose im here giving balance yeah which is balance but yeah its, which is a we have to balance on a weird do we have to balance on this particular not on hamas though. Got trouble it though. I got in trouble for it the day. I said, why are the other day. I said, why are we why we want anyone in the we why do we want anyone in the country with a hamas flag . And i was told i was some sort of, you know, taking sides and i was told i was some sorthat. ou know, taking sides and i was told i was some sorthat. Iu know, taking sides and i was told i was some sorthat. I dontn, taking sides and i was told i was some sorthat. I dont thinking sides and i was told i was some sorthat. I dont think thats es for that. I dont think thats really sides. Really taking sides. People that want im against people that want to kill us all in the west. You know what i mean . And jewish people and anyone else. Terrorists. So thats not terrorists. Seems like a position you shouldnt have to ask. Its not palestinians yeah, its not palestinians or flag. Its or palestinian flag. Its the hamas specifically. Or palestinian flag. Its the har i as specifically. Or palestinian flag. Its the hari meant. Specifically. I meant. I meant. But no, i mean but that is unfortunately the where were finding at that finding ourselves at is that that that there is that somehow that there is amazing that there a position amazing that there is a position to take on this. You have terrorists who have just committed the most unbelievable barbarity. And dont think barbarity. And i dont think i mean, people obviously at home, they up they cant see the photo up close. But theres a determination there because we cant really understand the scale in terms of the scale of it in terms of the numbers having i tried to do the math before , im not as good as math before, im not as good as it at you, steve, but its the equivalent having 1400 people murdered in that way is about 25,000in the uk. Having 200 people kidnapped , two of its people kidnapped, two of its citizens held would be a couple of thousand. Here theres no way that any sovereign country would allow these terrorists to hold their people , to not go in, to their people, to not go in, to get them back. And that seems to be the thing thats missing from here, is this is part of the mission is to is to save its citizens. Anyway, that wasnt a question there. Im just stating just stating it as just pure propaganda. Also id like to say this photo, its interesting that if if you look down that if you if you look down there, youll see it shows there, youll see that it shows there, youll see that it shows the of israelis. People the mixture of israelis. People try and sort of give it say, oh, israel, oh, its all white colonialism. Well, if you look here, you can see quite clearly its not white colonialism. The majority of israeli jews are of middle east descent. And middle east and descent. And that fair. Middle east and descent. And tha theres fair. Middle east and descent. And tha theres oneair. Middle east and descent. And tha theres one ginger. Yeah theres one ginger. Yeah there one ginger, which would there is one ginger, which would be my if was there. Be my son if he was there. You know, we do. There are a lot of redheads in the old jewish community, but yeah, its good that there. Good that hes there. Hes prince. Hes the hes the prince. Hes the prince harry the bunch. Yeah. Yeah. All right, well, lets. Isnt it lets go to on the next one. Whats the guardian going with . So the guardian goes with warning relief convoy for so the guardian goes with warnirtoo relief convoy for so the guardian goes with warnirtoo little,ief convoy for so the guardian goes with warnirtoo little, too onvoy for so the guardian goes with warnirtoo little, too late. Y for so the guardian goes with warnirtoo little, too late. Soir gaza. Too little, too late. So quite a different angle the quite a different angle from the guardian, would expect. Guardian, as one would expect. And theyre saying that the humanitarian help wont be enough too late. Enough and itll be too late. Pretty what it says on the pretty much what it says on the tin. Yeah. And then they have this story. Actually, tin. Yeah. And then they have this killed y. Actually, tin. Yeah. And then they have this killed myictually, tin. Yeah. And then they have this killed my parents, hamas killed my parents, which is very moving story is actually a very moving story in is my family in the subheading is my family want peace, not revenge. So this is someone was a is from someone who was in a small village near the gaza strip their parents, hamas strip and their parents, hamas burned house. Burned down their parents house. They a is it they were hit with a is it called a shoulder rocket. And so absolutely horrific. And he is calling peace off the back calling for peace off the back of rather war. But, of of that rather than war. But, of course, we know from the course, as we know from the other headlines, not other headlines, thats not going it . So going to happen, is it . So well, yeah, no, i mean, its and also, its i want peace. I think everybodys saying wants peace. Question is how is it peace. The question is how is it achieved . Cant have it with achieved . You cant have it with achieved . You cant have it with a terrorist regime coming in and murdering, you know , 1400 of murdering, you know, 1400 of your citizens. So yeah, there has to be some sort of response. And i just also want to say about this particular photo of course, its the guardian. Got horrible theyve got this horrible photo and of course, no one wants civilians be harmed wants any civilians to be harmed in any way. They have this photo up there. Ive noticed from up there. What ive noticed from all photos is that we all the photos is that we covered on those headlines. None of them had picture a of them had a picture of a destroyed i destroyed hospital. Well, i wonder why that is it wonder why that is. Is it because there is no destroyed hostel . I guarantee you if that hostel . I guarantee you if that hostel had been harmed in any way, there would be still photos everywhere. The 500 supposed dead. And then suddenly, because everybody messed up it , everybody messed up on it, suddenly just disappeared. Suddenly its just disappeared. And. Anyway, and it didnt happen. Anyway, thats just again, me, you know, thats just again, me, you know, thats the israeli thats what the israeli government. Yeah. Ive just fed that line. Good so the point that were so this the point that were making into this side story. I was listening to a podcast today and they made a really interesting is interesting point, which is stayed all day. And the stayed with me all day. And the idea of when an innocent life is taken, whether at hands taken, whether its at the hands of terrorist, of a terrible terrorist, deliberately killing this person to terror or to achieve terror or accidentally or because accidentally almost, or because you are in taking on some sort of military action, it will cause the same grief. And thats worth considering. And thats thats this story about. Thats what this story is about. Theidea thats what this story is about. The idea that you could lose a member your family still member of your family but still have ability, the perception have the ability, the perception to take back and to able to take a step back and realise will best realise peace will be the best end because people end game because other people are going to lose relatives in the same way. And you all the same way. And if you all just impassioned that, the same way. And if you all just just passioned that, the same way. And if you all just just going ned that, the same way. And if you all just just going tod that, the same way. And if you all just just going to have. Hat, the same way. And if you all just just going to have the youre just going to have the war side of it. You need people like this to be doing some talking. Yes, absolutely. Youre yes, absolutely. God, youre like thin. E thin. Whats im bald. Thin. Whats the bald. Thin. Whats the whats times whats the whats the times gone then , steve . Gone with then, steve . They have do your bit well, they have do your bit to ease israel crisis sunak urges saudis. But there is a story on the side we can story on the side that we can talk about childhood talk about, about childhood obesity. Fall towards 20 obesity. Rates fall towards 20 year low. Dont get too excited about it really, because is its just that, you know , over the just that, you know, over the last couple of years, kids might have been around not have been sitting around not doing much for a while and doing so much for a while and now theyre doing a bit more. And rates kind of going and the rates are kind of going back that direction. And back in that direction. And which us because which is annoying for us because we moan about kids being we like to moan about kids being fat, only 9 in fat, but its now only 9 in terms obese. If you add in terms of obese. If you add in ovenneight to that, though, its still huge figures, no pun intended 36. 7 of year six children above healthy children were above a healthy weight. We can still mock weight. So we can still mock them that. But its all to them for that. But its all to do with the child do with the National Child measurement and ive Measurement Programme and ive been watching a lot the been watching a lot of the reckoning, so that sounds dodgy, but i dont think is. That but i dont think it is. That does sound pretty. Mean, what do you i mean, nick, what do you think of this . I mean, 9. 2 child, an thats still child, an obese. Thats still seems high. Seems very high. Theyre not quite fat yes, theyre not quite as fat as during covid, still fat. As during covid, but still fat. And so its a good story. And so its a good story. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, its good news, but not the longer term. Not great in the longer term. I mean, theres an interesting line here. The reason disparity is reason for this disparity is clear theyre talking clear that and theyre talking about and on. About the statistics and so on. They eating healthily is they say eating healthily is simply for many simply unaffordable for many families right families across the uk right now. I think eating less now. But i did think eating less is cheaper. I hate to be is still cheaper. I hate to be a big some sort of tory or something, but you know, thats the cheapest option still isnt it . You should run the tory party yeah. Theres a kind of leo kearse kind of line. Im just because not ive kind because hes not here, ive kind of with the stepping in there. Yeah. Yeah. Look, nick, why dont you finish on the daily star, then . Its important to finish on the star. Absolutely. The daily star. Absolutely. Theyve celebrity theyve got three celebrity cops arrest who fooled theyve got three celebrity cops arresi staff who fooled theyve got three celebrity cops arresi staff by who fooled theyve got three celebrity cops arresistaff by standingo fooled theyve got three celebrity cops arresistaff by standing in ooled theyve got three celebrity cops arresistaff by standing in fored shop staff by standing in for window hours pretending to a window hours pretending to be a mannequin. All fun and games. Except he faces ten years in pnson except he faces ten years in prison for burglary and theft. Well, you can tell that thats in the uk is thats not in the uk then, is it . Oh, because its because he actually hes actually going to go he got caught. Yeah. I see he got caught. Yeah. I see what you mean. One favourite line actually. This is the line actually. This is from the sun version. They said the sun version. But they said the man frozen in the window man stood frozen in the window and man stood frozen in the window ancwe got image of him there. We got an image of him there. Hes good. We got an image of him there. Heyeah, good. We got an image of him there. He yeah, hesi. We got an image of him there. He yeah, hes very good. Yeah, hes very good. Yeah, hes very good. Very, very good. I mean, i look that and i think look at that and i think mannequin. Absolutely. It says here he tried in the other tried to blend in with the other mannequins. Like the word mannequins. I like the word other there. As if he is actually so good. Actually is other there. As if he is atmannequin. Od. Actually is other there. As if he is atmannequin. But actually is other there. As if he is atmannequin. But now tually is other there. As if he is atmannequin. But now he|lly is to a mannequin. But now he wants to just with the other ones. That film, i mean, steve, is there any possibility that he was brought life was magically brought to life for of someone . For the love of someone . No. And actually, if you rewatch a bit rewatch that film, its a bit dodgy, isnt its got vibes. Dodgy, isnt it . Its got vibes. Oh, really . Not oh, really . Okay. Its not a thing. I havent watched thing. No, no, i havent watched it. Now that said that, it. But now that you said that, im to rewatch im going to rewatch it. A great song though. Great to with it and great song to go with it and steve, are they . Steve, where are they . Police looking . Where are the Police Looking . Covent garden. They should here. Thats where do their thats where they do their training, isnt it just kids playing statues days playing statues these days are starting to crime. Its very, very dodgy. Right . That the front all that is. The front page is all tied up. To gb news radio. Welcome back to headliners. Im chevy chase. He welcome back to headliners. Im chevy chase. He is welcome back to headliners. Im chevy chase. He is steve im chevy chase. He is steve martin and he is martin little. And together we are the three amigos who get white. Why did you not . We practised this all the day. Well, anyone get suddenly pretending that you dont know what. God, steve, i cant believe whos whos martin little. Its martin short. Its martin short. Yeah. Yeah. Theres no you just invented a character for me. Like stuart little. Thats a mouse. Thats bad. Bad. My bad. Okay. My bad. Okay. The bleeped out on the first time i saw it, they had to bleep out one of their jokes. And martin has the joke of martin short has the joke of thats can you thats a mail plane. How can you tell . Plane . Because tell . Its a mail plane . Because you can see its little. And tell . Its a mail plane . Because you bleepedts little. And tell . Its a mail plane . Because you bleeped outittle. And tell . Its a mail plane . Because you bleeped out the. And tell . Its a mail plane . Because you bleeped out the words, they bleeped out the words, oh, yeah, they bleeped out the words, oh, yeaone they bleeped out the words, oh, yea one of they bleeped out the words, oh, yeaone of my favourite one of my favourite films, but was martin but i didnt know it was martin little. You. Sure, sure. Little. Thank you. Sure, sure. Right do right after that, lets do this incredibly story. Incredibly depressing story. Steve and we have fridays daily mail and i am about to get cancelled. Yeah, thanks for this. Gear change. Failure to integrate huge numbers of migrants to uk life has fuelled the normalisation of israel, hatred and anti semitism in britain. And anti semitism in britain. This is according to a counter extremism commissioner , counter extremism commissioner, robin simcox. Dont google that last bit has blamed failed policy of a mix of mass migration and multiculturalism. The rest of the story also talks heavily about our or our propensity, our goal, our idea deal of freedom of speech leaves a gap for people to just spread some hate. Thats a gap for people to just spread some hate. Thats kind of a gap for people to just spread some hate. Thats kind of the some hate. Thats kind of the paradox of free speech anyway , paradox of free speech anyway, that you always kind of trying to that its been to battle that its been disagreed with. Theres Tom Tugendhat said. I think the United Kingdom is a country, an environment in which we take all threats extremely threats to communities extremely seriously. I thought it was interesting that the two people disagreeing slightly talking disagreeing a slightly talking about different things. Thats exactly what i picked up on. All right. No, no, exactly that hes answering different point. Answering a different point. One is the point is talking about the point within anti semitism , within the within anti semitism, within the muslim community. And the other one is basically saying, yeah, but we protect well protect jewish people. Dont worry about it. Thats not the same point at all, nick . All, is it, nick . No, no, but robin simcox no, no, but its robin simcox. Point is undeniable, really, isnt it . The this basically the speed , the number in terms of speed, the number in terms of immigration and then the sheepishness about our own values and the fact that we dont talk enough about integration anymore, which is what alluding is what hes alluding to. That is a massive problem and it only gets harder politically if you think about the about it, the more the demographics of the country change, easier to demographics of the country cha|something easier to demographics of the country cha|something well, iier to demographics of the country cha|something well, you. O Say Something like, well, you should probably learn the language. Harder language. It only gets harder politically to say even politically to say that even though the becomes more though the need becomes more pressing. Gets pressing. But obviously it gets harder because youve got different thats different groups who say thats racist or something. It racist or something. So it doesnt get easier to make racist or something. So it doesn points. Easier to make racist or something. So it doesn points. And asier to make racist or something. So it doesn points. And we r to make racist or something. So it doesn points. And we failed ake these points. And we failed to make case culture make the for case our culture and integrating and thats and for integrating and thats become a threat as we see, become a threat now as we see, its always been a threat, but its always been a threat, but its obvious. Its becoming more obvious. And steve point about its becoming more obvious. And steiparadox point about its becoming more obvious. And steiparadox free point about its becoming more obvious. And steiparadox free speech. |bout its becoming more obvious. And steiparadox free speech. That the paradox of free speech. That is. You could argue is the issue. You could argue our system of invites its our system kind of invites its own if you own destruction because if you have people say, no, have to have people say, no, no, hamas free. Two people are hamas are free. Two people are free to say should obliterate hamas are free. Two people are freeentirer should obliterate hamas are free. Two people are freeentire system. Uld obliterate hamas are free. Two people are free entire system. Theyreterate hamas are free. Two people are freeentire system. Theyre using our entire system. Theyre using free speech they would have free speech and they would have us ideally their minds, put us ideally in their minds, put in that would obviously us ideally in their minds, put in have that would obviously us ideally in their minds, put in have free 1at would obviously us ideally in their minds, put in have free speech. D obviously us ideally in their minds, put in have free speech. So bviously us ideally in their minds, put in have free speech. So thatsly not have free speech. So thats thats the problem with that. Not have free speech. So thats tha andie problem with that. Not have free speech. So thats tha andie prcofem with that. Not have free speech. So thats tha andie prcof course, that. Not have free speech. So thats tha andie prcof course, were and then of course, were talking whos speech talking about whos free speech because was a van that has because there was a van that has posters kidnapped victims posters of the kidnapped victims captured by hamas and is driving around london and they were stopped from going into any areas that had and the palestinian vigil yesterday or protest or whatever you want to call it. And because they theyre jewish and they were the police like, no, you cant theyre jewish and they were the policethere. Like, no, you cant theyre jewish and they were the policethere. And no, you cant theyre jewish and they were the policethere. And wereju cant theyre jewish and they were the policethere. And were basically go in there. And were basically detaining them because of the threat to these jewish people. So its like, well, wait a minute, whose freedom are we protecting here . Its like were protecting here . Its like were protecting the freedom to not be attacked. Well, thats not the same as the freedom of speech. Same as the freedom of speech. Surely its taking away their freedom of speech its freedom of speech anyway. Its there is an interesting debate here, of course, but unfortunately, now weve sort of moving beyond debate where were seeing it in real life. The other issue that i would say that raises is Tom Tugendhat that he raises is Tom Tugendhat makes a point about how his wife speaks french at home and this and not really the and that. Thats not really the point of integration as point in terms of integration as such. The fact that people were talking about value systems here and i guess one of those values is free speech. Yeah, his point was a bit more showing off how middle class he is. My wife speaks french, children speak five french, my children speak five languages or whatever. Anyway. Oh my gosh, im yes. Anyway. Oh my gosh, im tired. We got through it, but tired. We got through it, but im living it. The guardian next. And nick, it seems like the new rishi used to be the old death. Yeah science advisor referred to rishi sunak as dr. Death covid inquiry is. And this was dame inquiry is. And this was dame Angela Mclean. And a message that seemed to refer to the eat out to help out scheme. And there were there were , it turns there were there were, it turns out it could have been that she wasnt absolutely certain because it was a long time ago. But but message the but but the message the reference was dr. Death the chancellor and the assumption was it was probably the out was it was probably the eat out to out, is a pity to help out, which is a pity because was perfectly because that was a perfectly good course, good scheme. But of course, if youre with infectious good scheme. But of course, if youre modellingiith infectious good scheme. But of course, if youre modelling like nfectious good scheme. But of course, if youre modelling like this ious good scheme. But of course, if youre modelling like this guy disease modelling like this guy john edmonds, was also very john edmonds, who was also very against, actions , against, against sunak actions, then of course you dont care if you care about the you dont care about the economy, care about you dont care about the ec0ilong, care about you dont care about the ec0ilong, health care about you dont care about the ec0ilong, health concerns, jt the Long Term Health concerns, if youre totally focussed on infectious , of course Infectious Disease, of course you like that. But you see it like that. But actually help was actually eat out to help out was to help desperate hospitality. The sector, which to help desperate hospitality. The massively sector, which to help desperate hospitality. The massively strugglingiich to help desperate hospitality. The massively struggling ati to help desperate hospitality. The massively struggling at the was massively struggling at the time do concede here time and they do concede here this edmonds john this person, edmonds john edmonds, professor of Infectious Disease modelling, does concede that the eat out to help out didnt actually cause the second wave. He just says the optics were terrible. Well, so what . I mean , why is that so. But isnt mean, why is that so. But isnt it more important to save businesses i dont like that it more important to save busthe ses i dont like that it more important to save busthe narrativeiont like that it more important to save busthe narrative is1t like that it more important to save busthe narrative is being� that its the narrative is being implemented. And whereas the people who really should be questioned. Matt hancock and some things he did, you questioned. Matt hancock and some the things he did, you questioned. Matt hancock and some the nursingjs he did, you questioned. Matt hancock and some the nursingjs he di andnu questioned. Matt hancock and some the nursingjs he di and so know the Nursing Homes and so on, here, a on, you have someone here, a spokesperson for covid 19 bereaved families. That bereaved families. And that is horrible, obviously, to be a bereaved but theyre horrible, obviously, to be a bere ofed but theyre horrible, obviously, to be a bereof blaming but theyre horrible, obviously, to be a bereof blaming sunakieyre horrible, obviously, to be a bereof blaming sunakieyrtsaying sort of blaming sunak and saying othennise be othennise my mum might still be with which just dont with me, which i just dont think is it might is a big word there. Yeah, its i mean, there. Yeah, its the i mean, there. Yeah, its the i mean, the cultists, they sort there. Yeah, its the i mean, thngetting cultists, they sort there. Yeah, its the i mean, thngetting cuwiths, they sort there. Yeah, its the i mean, thngetting cuwith it hey sort there. Yeah, its the i mean, thngetting cuwith it iny sort of getting away with it in this narrative sunak being blamed narrative and sunak being blamed for i think was for what i think was a reasonable at reasonable scheme. Lets look at the the proof the lockdown. Wheres the proof that worked . We know it that actually worked . We know it has wheres the has massive costs. Wheres the proof actually worked . Has massive costs. Wheres the proof steve, ually worked . Has massive costs. Wheres the proof steve,uais worked . Well, steve, it is interesting here because as they point as nick said, theres point out, as nick said, theres no evidence that it did actually increase deaths. It seems more increase deaths. It seems more like this person. Shes angry like this person. Shes angry because she was wrong. Well , i because she was wrong. Well, i think because she was wrong. Well , i think everyones well, i think everyones forgetting that time was elapsing at the time. Were all elapsing at the time. Were all looking back at it and saying, i love how time elapses at the time, because the problem time, but because the problem with is you with remembering stuff is you remember once as on remember it all at once as if on when eat out to help out was brought out, which i want brought out, which i just want to say when out help to say when eat out to help out was it was was announced. I thought it was great it was great until i realised it was about out to restaurant about going out to a restaurant rather in with rather than an evening in with the that. But the missus showing that. But i used bring the mood back down used to bring the mood back down from there. I lost both parents to covid during the pandemic, so this is thing that impacts me. Wish i hadnt come to you now, but i remember. Yeah, im the joy yeah, its. Im bring the joy but when eat out to help out was announced than we announced we knew less than we knew later and people are knew a year later and people are looking at going oh that looking at it and going oh that over strict thing proves over strict end of thing proves that all lockdowns are wrong. Nope. Then some people who nope. And then some people who say you should lock down earlier proves should have proves that we should have had more all through. More restrictions. All through. Nope. Know what nope. You didnt know what was happening start, happening right at the start, so you can make an argument about erring cautious side. Erring on the cautious side. When what was when you didnt know what was happening. Been happening. You should have been unlocking quicker. It was always meant short, sharp meant to be a short, sharp break. Lockdown and then get break. It lockdown and then get back to it. And this was what we were trying to do at the time. Get going again. Yeah. Which i guess the point which is, i guess the point why were having this inquiry be to these we to find out these things so we can look and hopefully can look at them and hopefully look data without getting emotional. I mean, i mean, im really sorry hear steve sorry to hear about steve spence. That. Spence. I didnt know that. But but problem that you but one problem here is that you had Angela Mclean , had this dame Angela Mclean, saying, who is this bleep . And then a very derogatory term. I cant it. And she was cant say it. And she was talking Carl Henaghan , talking about Carl Henaghan, whos professor of evidence based at oxford based medicine at oxford university. So the other thing that happened is a certain narrative if you narrative emerged. And if you werent were an werent part of it, you were an idiot. You actually were idiot. Even if you actually were an that just annoys idiot. Even if you actually were an that that just annoys idiot. Even if you actually were an that thats hat just annoys idiot. Even if you actually were an that thats still ust annoys idiot. Even if you actually were an that thats still being noys idiot. Even if you actually were an that thats still being that me that thats still being that thats, that view has thats, you know, that view has not sufficiently i absolutely. And i am an idiot. I just want to theres no you know, im not trying to say what my view but yeah, if what my view is, but yeah, if shed me that, id be fine shed call me that, id be fine with mail now. And with it. More mail now. And steve crimes up. Thing steve crimes up. Good thing we have prison space to have loads of prison space to deal it. Deal with it. Shoplifting 25 increase. Actually also, knife and gun crimes have been going up. Robberies and car thefts in the past 12 months. So these are new figures. Its the police that figures. Its the police that have been recording crime in england seen a 4 england and wales have seen a 4 higher than in the higher rate of crime than in the previous year, 6. 7 million crimes recorded and according to the office of national statistics, that you can compare this actually, before we move on to that, whenever the government talks about crime figures , they talks about crime figures, they miss out fraud. They now have a policy of not talking about fraud account fraud figures which account for just half of all just less than half of all crimes, then youll get crimes, and then youll get ministers saying over the last ten years, crime has actually dropped by around a half. I wonder why it has in the same way that if i dont stand on the weighing scales, sit a weighing scales, i sit on a chair and my feet on i chair and put my feet on them. I can ive weight, but can say ive lost weight, but then that to the then you can compare that to the crime england and crime survey for england and wales, does include fraud crime survey for england and walnstuff does include fraud crime survey for england and walnstuff thatsies include fraud crime survey for england and walt stuff thats seen clude fraud crime survey for england and walt stuff thats seen a ude fraud crime survey for england and walt stuff thats seen a decrease and stuff thats seen a decrease in crime by 10. It could be that the police are working harder and doing their more. It and doing theirjob more. It could saying could. Could be. But im saying could. Slightly strange here could be. But im saying could. Somely strange here could be. But im saying could. Some of;trange here could be. But im saying could. Some of theige here could be. But im saying could. Some of the statistics because some of the statistics seem is going seem that saying crime is going up then got other up and then youve got other crime. Its reported crime thats gone up. But but actual overall crimes that have gone down. That seems to be the way that im reading well that im reading it. Well depends what at. Depends what you look at. Robberies are car crimes up, knife but then as knife offences up. But then as steve you look the steve says, if you look at the crime wales, crime survey for england, wales, it drop in it says theres a 28 drop in criminal damage, 30 reduction in it could just in fraud. So it could just be that getting so that techs getting better. So fraud or people fraud is harder to do or people are thicker, but are just getting thicker, but theyre less you sort of theyre sort of less you sort of rather the knife crime was there, you say . It there, wouldnt you say . It depends what kind of crime youre the youre talking about. The suggestion for dealing with shoplifting make shoplifting is that you make assaulting, shoplifting is that you make assaulting retail worker abusing a retail worker a specific crime. But my idea is just impose the existing laws. You already have. Like theft is bad. Like dont we have a law about that already . Why do we need retail worker threatening theft bad. Cant theft is particularly bad. Cant we people stuff . Am i . I dont know. If youve beenin am i . I dont know. If youve been in a shop where you see some it some shoplifting going on, it always that always bothers me that im wasting my life to pay wasting my life queuing to pay while someones there. While someones out of there. While a teenager while im waiting for a teenager to come in prove my age for a month. Your wife to pay for her stuff. Go news. And stuff. Lets go to the news. And nick, a dog, maybe nick, if youve got a dog, maybe then dont need me to talk then you dont need me to talk you every night. You to sleep every night. Is american xl yeah. This is american xl bully. The rspca and blue cross. Still rehoming dogs despite expected ban and attacks. So the rspca , because they love rspca, because they love animals, sort of seemingly more than humans, theyre saying theyre just going to continue to rehome these dogs until the law actually comes into law change actually comes into force but just layman force. But im just a layman here, surely this means here, but surely this means these dogs will have to be destroyed at some point anyway. Youre rehoming housing. Youre just rehoming housing. All are about to banned. Its worse than that, steve, because these are now because these dogs are now harming their new owners. How harming their new owners. So how culpable are these Dog Charities when they sort of poor off, sorry the pun , a dog that sorry for the pun, a dog that then , you know, chews up their then, you know, chews up their new owner . New owner . Yeah, well, i mean, in terms of the law coming in, actually, it wouldnt mean youve got to destroy mean destroy the dog. It would mean rules to they have rules like having to they have to muzzle when theyre to wear a muzzle when theyre out of the and have out of the house. And you have to register approve , to register them and approve, apply for approval. That kids. Ive done that with my kids. Ive done that with my kids. Does it work . Its fine. It does it work . They mind. Chafes they dont mind. Chafes a little, isnt it . Attacks, little, isnt it . The attacks, i suppose its not just the rspca response ability for rehoming the dog. Its also people who say, i want a dog and they go and look at all the theyre informed of the details as well that could it. That the ban could impact it. I was reading through of the was reading through some of the adverts dogs and does adverts for the dogs and it does say breed that say that theyre a breed that you have some restrictions you might have some restrictions coming thats coming in. Theres one thats for describes. For betty, which it describes. It betty a chunky girl it says betty is a chunky girl full of and loves to full of fun and loves to actually sorry no, was actually sorry, no, that was on fetlife. No , there are they fetlife. Um, no, there are they do warn you about the dogs. Like shes well, they say like shes large size , strong times, large in size, strong at times, and capable competent and hes a capable and competent owner. That is like red owner. For me, that is like red flag. I know. Do not get this dog. And another one said that the dog showed no signs of aggression yet. But you know aggression yet. But you know what i mean. Thats quite thats what i mean. Thats quite thats what dog owners always say, isnt it . Always say yeah, its they always say yeah, its never bitten anybody, never its never bitten anybody, never its never bitten anybody, never until some poor kid never hurt until some poor kid gets in their way. Yeah the i read an interview, i think was the times about think it was in the times about the who originally bred this the guy who originally bred this breed says breed in america. And he says its been bred its about theyve now been bred with species but he with other species breeds but he said we were trying to get one that looked all muscle like a weightlifter, but had a docile temperament you a temperament. Why do you want a dog looks like dog that looks like a weightlifter . You want weightlifter . If you want a docile dog, a labrador and docile dog, get a labrador and dont that looks like dont have one that looks like its hench and its going to headbutt you. And how dogs that yeah. And how many dogs that look that have a look like that would have a docile temperament . Almost docile temperament . Its almost impossible. To really impossible. I want to really chill schwarzenegger. Impossible. I want to really chill goingchwarzenegger. Impossible. I want to really chill goingchvhappen. Ger. Its not going to happen. Youve got that. Yeah, but youve got that. Youve got that physical intensity sort intensity combined with the sort of very special. Intensity combined with the sort of finishing very special. Intensity combined with the sort of finishing vsection ial. Intensity combined with the sort of finishing vsection with yeah. Finishing the section with the and steve, it seems the guardian and steve, it seems like police either like the police either dancing away or pointing away at carnivals or pointing guns at kids. They need to find a a middle ground right . A sort of a middle ground right . Kids, pointing dancing at kids, pointing guns pointing, guns at carnivals, pointing, pointing, guns at kids, dancing at carnivals there we go. All in one. The at carnivals there we go. All in one. The story is the rammed boy 13 playing with water pistol , 13 playing with a water pistol, knocked off bike, knocked him off his bike, pointed guns at him, then put him handcuffs. The boy was him in handcuffs. The boy was black. Says this black. The mother says this wouldnt happened if he was wouldnt have happened if he was white. Wing vibes, my white. My left wing vibes, my left wing friends would be saying time to saying like, this is a time to be hate the police. Be angry and hate the police. Then article, the then in the same article, the boy playing water boy was playing with a water pistol sister. Had pistol with his sister. He had a blue the sister had a pink blue one. The sister had a pink one. Specific toys. One. Gender specific toys. Someone at these someone pointed a gun at these kids. So i mean, youd hope that the police would turn up with common sense. Hope that. And then you would hope that. And then aftennards the was aftennards, nick, the mum was complaining and i think any parent, had happened to parent, if this had happened to them, child was rammed off parent, if this had happened to them bike child was rammed off parent, if this had happened to them bike ch machineimmed off parent, if this had happened to them bike ch machine guns d off parent, if this had happened to them to e ch machine guns d off parent, if this had happened to them to them machine guns d off parent, if this had happened to them to them and hine guns d off parent, if this had happened to them to them and this guns d off point to them and this police have said, oh, youre being really. Really aggressive. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, yeah. Well, course youre going well, of course youre going to aggressive. To be aggressive. Quite well, yeah, im quite impressed. Out impressed. The police got out and it, and actually dealt with it, though. But it turns out it was it it was the time to it was it was the wrong time to deal impressed at deal with. Im im impressed at the response time. But yeah, obviously great with 13 obviously its not great with 13 year old kids. Yeah. Yeah. But yeah. But its yeah. But its obviously yeah. But its obviously the breakdown used to have the breakdown of we used to have the archetypal bobbies on the beat. You police presence. You have a police presence. They only what you only had sticks. But what you get our society, youve only had sticks. But what you get most our society, youve only had sticks. But what you get most a our society, youve only had sticks. But what you get most a lot society, youve only had sticks. But what you get most a lot ofciety, youve only had sticks. But what you get most a lot ofciety, jgoesz got most a lot of crime goes unpunished leave unpunished. They just leave it. But do happen , they but when things do happen, they can extreme like this can be really extreme like this because police are then because the police are then heavily theyre heavily armed. So then theyre pointing heavily armed. So then theyre pointiiwhich obviously child, which is obviously horrendous, but its kind of like, its enough like, you know, its not enough police suddenly like, you know, its not enough polimuch suddenly like, you know, its not enough polimuch. Suddenly like, you know, its not enough polimuch. We suddenly like, you know, its not enough polimuch. We want suddenly like, you know, its not enough polimuch. We want to idenly like, you know, its not enough polimuch. We want to iden of too much. We want to sort of somewhere between there and somewhere in between there and apparently because they apparently its because they have deal have protocols on how you deal with someones when with a crime when someones when theyve theres theyve reported that theres firearms up see that its but turn up and see that its a water pistol and stop handcuffing. Handcuffing. But someone must have pranked them report them or something to even report that gun. Yeah, i that someone with a gun. Yeah, i dont know. Yeah, well , were at dont know. Yeah, well, were at the way point, but no the half way point, but no better yet. Better time yet. Coming up, weve got a cure for sex workers for homosexual sex workers and fat kids. You evil. And its right that israel exercises its right to self defence. Self defence. Welcome back to headliners. Lets get straight to fridays daily mail and nick, its not like rishi has enough on his plate, right . Yeah, this is rishi sunak will go ahead with conversion therapy ban after warnings of revolt by ministers and tory mps despite parents could be despite fears parents could be criminalised for legitimate conversations with children about which is, about gender identity, which is, of the concern. Its mad of course the concern. Its mad that conservative government that a conservative government is doing this. This is an obvious one to get rid of. Its a terrible idea to. You wont be able speak young people able to speak to young people and sure you and say, are you sure you want to change forever . To change your gender forever . Medically should to change your gender forever . Me allowed should to change your gender forever . Me allowed to should to change your gender forever . Me allowed to do should to change your gender forever . Me allowed to do nowmld to change your gender forever . Me allowed to do now tod to change your gender forever . Me allowed to do now to be be allowed to do that. Now to be fair, badenoch is saying it fair, Kemi Badenoch is saying it wont do that. Shes saying the move can be implemented without a chilling effect. Though the bill is still being drawn up, but well actually have a more leftist policy than scotland here. I mean, how embarrassing is postponed the is that . Theyve postponed the ban on conversion therapy amid warnings that could criminalise parents who question their childs wish to change gender. So has done the so scotland has done the sensible thing and have. And sensible thing and we have. And thats is. Yeah thats how bad this is. Yeah mean, what are the i mean, steve, what are the dangers here like sort of explain it for laymans term. It comes down to details. It all comes down to details. So that if have so the idea that if you have a conversation where, nick conversation where, as nick says, you question someones says, if you question someones gender identity, well, not even question if they if they say theyre questioning their gender identity and you say, oh, are you sure . Yeah. Under one version of this that seems like you involved you could be getting involved in a conversion. I dont know. A conversion. I dont know. Its about details. Theyve about the details. So theyve promised see the promised that we will see the details to details of the draft bill to actually that would be actually know if that would be included, you could, of included, because you could, of course this is true course, if you and this is true of all laws, youve to have of all laws, youve got to have the see could the detail to see what could accidentally included. And as accidentally be included. And as long its paid attention to long as its paid attention to and badenoch, i and if Kemi Badenoch, which i believe poster girl believe is like the poster girl for lots people who are on for lots of people who are on this , she it can this show, if she thinks it can work, maybe there is some detail. E m p mm shes very much on this issue and i mean, really . Yeah, its about therapists, its about teachers, threat possibly to teachers, the threat possibly to them. But the other thing is why this bill necessary. We this bill is necessary. We already have laws that out law , already have laws that out law, you know, outlaw this for sexuality already. Sexuality already. Well, one reason is its party political. I mean, equalities minister Stuart Andrew has been threatening to quit if the measure is not brought fonnard. I mean, how mental is yeah. So, you mental is that . Yeah. So, you know, appeasing of know, its appeasing members of your bad policy. Your party with a bad policy. Well, no. Well, no. Well, no. Well, tories would never well, the tories would never do guardian now. And im do that. Guardian now. And im having a lot of fun memories from your stag do steve amsterdam sex workers protest against to move red against plan to move to red light district. Against plan to move to red lightwishict. Against plan to move to red lightwish i t. Against plan to move to red lightwish i remembered my stag against plan to move to red lignow. ;h i remembered my stag against plan to move to red lignow. Theyimembered my stag against plan to move to red lignow. They are nbered my stag against plan to move to red lignow. They are protesting� stag do now. They are protesting against the mayors plans to move their their area of trade to a purpose built Erotic Centre. There is nothing more unerotic than Erotic Centre just away from the city centre. Theres good parking. If thats what gets you going, youre in the its like they the wrong place. Its like they want to stop being sin want to stop it being a sin city. Want to go for city. So now they want to go for a sin out of town. Is this business Business Park Business Park a Business Park with . Yeah. It ruins the 15 minute city argument because i mean , what, five minutes there . Mean, what, five minutes there . Five minutes back, you get five minutes back, you only get five minutes. Five minutes back, you only get five you iutes. Five minutes back, you only get fiveyouiutes. Need 15. You dont need 15. You dont need 15. Anyway. Work, doesnt anyway. It does work, doesnt it . Also there was a bit where anyway. It does work, doesnt it . Sex there was a bit where anyway. It does work, doesnt it . Sex workers as a bit where anyway. It does work, doesnt it . Sex workers are bit where anyway. It does work, doesnt it . Sex workers are saying ere anyway. It does work, doesnt it . Sex workers are saying they the sex workers are saying they they held responsible they are being held responsible for some of the issues around their trade. The criminals their trade. The criminals around there and the crowds surrounding neon lit surrounding their neon lit booths. And that the bit booths. And that was the bit where thought, in where i thought, oh, youre in a neon booth presume neon lit booth and you presume no one will notice a crowd probably would fall even if you did it. Josh a people would did it. Josh a few people would have look, know, mean, have a look, you know, i mean, its necessarily its not necessarily a sex thing. Its a its an eye catcher. One sex worker who identified but catcher. One sex worker who iibelievei but catcher. One sex worker who iibelieve you but catcher. One sex worker who iibelieve you could but catcher. One sex worker who iibelieve you could herut catcher. One sex worker who iibelieve you could her any i believe you could call her any name said that it was a gentrification project. So its gentrification project. So its like an episode of up pompeii where theyre going to go on strike. Yeah. What do you think, nick . Well, the idea, as you said, of erotic retail park, is of an erotic retail park, is problematic. It problematic. Immediately. It would out to would be like going out to disney world, with disney world, but with with better very water. Better rides, very blue water. There we go. And of course, they refer to these women as sex workers here, which is obviously a bit of a controversial term within fourth wave feminism. If anyone wants to tackle that one quickly, whats the issue with it . Because the idea is that calling them workers would calling them sex workers would mean they have some sort of mean that they have some sort of choice in the matter, whereas sort of second wave feminists would go no , theyre being would go no, theyre being exploited and were legitimising that exploitation. Im against all waves of feminism, so i never have to worry about it. Okay. Okay. Okay. Weve got a meat story next in the guardian. Lets our in the guardian. Lets go to our resident headliners, expert resident headliners, meat expert nick schaffer. Nick schaffer. Oh, yeah. This is crikey. Pity lewis isnt here. What a pity. Its eating red meat twice a week. May increase type 2 Diabetes Risk study finds. And lo and behold , and you know, it lo and behold, and you know, it would also reduce gas emissions and tackle Climate Change if we stop eating red meat. And actually theres the proper ganda, its the eats the bugs and happy. And of course its and be happy. And of course its and be happy. And of course its a propaganda from big its a propaganda from big veg, its big over. Its a propaganda from big veg, its big over. Its a dodgy big veg all over. Its a dodgy study. I mean, people were asked a questionnaires about study. I mean, people were asked a diet questionnaires about study. I mean, people were asked a diet every stionnaires about study. I mean, people were asked a diet every 2ionnaires about study. I mean, people were asked a diet every 2 to naires about study. I mean, people were asked a diet every 2 to 4iires about study. I mean, people were asked a diet every 2 to 4 years bout their diet every 2 to 4 years for up to 36 years. And those who ate most red meat had a 62 higher risk of developing the condition. Its people who Self Reporting. Its people who eat tonnes of burgers. You know, eat tonnes of burgers. You know, their lifestyle is probably bad anyway. Theyre Self Reporting their lifestyle is probably bad anyway. Eatvre Self Reporting their lifestyle is probably bad anyway. Eat moreilf reporting their lifestyle is probably bad anyway. Eat more redreporting their lifestyle is probably bad anyway. Eat more red meat. Ig that they eat more red meat. Theres link here between red theres no link here between red meat. Meat is good. I hate to sound like louis shaven meat. Okay, listen good. Sound like louis shaven meat. Okajwhenever sten good. Sound like louis shaven meat. Okajwhenever theyre good. Sound like louis shaven meat. Okajwhenever theyre saying ood. Sound like louis shaven meat. Okajwhenever theyre saying is d. Wrong. Okay, well, i mean, steve, it does seem to suggest that meat isnt good. Yeah. Yeah. And processed meat even more so. But its a weak study. Even steves going to admit that. Im. Dont ruin this for no, im. Dont ruin this for me. To up louis me. Im going to call up Louis Schaefer him schaefer and read this to him down the phone. And a knight most passionate and a knight of and god, this is the of israel. And god, this is the one. Is the where the one. This is the one where the fists i was reading fists come out. I was reading this the and was this on the way and i was thinking you get to thinking by the time you get to the research the second sentence, research from Harvard University, id be the second sentence, research fr0icriticising university, id be the second sentence, research fr0icriticising them. � sity, id be off criticising them. Harvard university attack oh, Harvard University attack the rather the the source rather than the actual dedicated actual thing hes dedicated his life that everything life to saying that everything gives you diabetes you gives you diabetes unless you eat and meat gives you eat meat and meat gives you diabetes. So theres a correlating thing. Causality he needs looking into because there is an issue that if you more is an issue that if you eat more meat, might just be a big meat, you mightjust be a big old slob who loves a burger and also diet coke. Maybe also loves diet coke. And maybe diet diabetes, diet coke gives you diabetes, but you said there is no but its you said there is no link. And this certainly doesnt show that theres no link. Theres the questionable link. They told us trans fats were good. Then they told us trans fats were good. Then lo and behold, trans fats the thing you can fats are the worst thing you can eat. This. Eat. Now read this. Done our trans story weve done our trans story for night. Move on a for the night. Lets move on a story the telegraph about story in the telegraph now about why stay in why its so important we stay in the echr scenic. Really . Yeah. The echr scenic. Really . Yeah. Its about human rights. Human rights. Okay oh, this is. What is this . The oh, the. The school. Yeah your intro is so oblique. I couldnt even figure it out. This is school breach. I mean, echr. How was i supposed to get from that supposed to get that from that school . Breached human rights by disciplining pupils for shiny shoes. Disciplining pupils for shiny shoes. Okay, good. Were on the shoes. Okay, good. Were on the same this the king same page. This was the king edward sixth in spilsby , edward sixth academy in spilsby, lincolnshire. And its absurd lincolnshire. And its an absurd story where the child was told there shoes were too shiny. Another child was told the trousers too tight. And trousers were too tight. And then wear bigger then they had to wear bigger ones looked like clown. Then they had to wear bigger onesthe looked like clown. Then they had to wear bigger onesthe parents like clown. Then they had to wear bigger onesthe parents area clown. Then they had to wear bigger onesthe parents are sayingnn. Then they had to wear bigger onesthe parents are saying its and the parents are saying its detrimental the kids mental detrimental to the kids mental health. Its all a bit silly. You do the you should just do what the michaelis very Michaelis School does have very strict discipline, but its got to and its got to to be consistent and its got to be a reason. True that be for a reason. Its true that schools arbitrary , schools can impose arbitrary, you know, arbitrary standards , you know, arbitrary standards, and it does sound like there might of that going on and it does sound like there mighits of that going on and it does sound like there mighits a of that going on and it does sound like there mighits a non of that going on and it does sound like there mighits a non story. T going on and it does sound like there mighits a non story. Okayg on here. Its a non story. Okay arbitrary standards. Thats the point of school the whole point of school uniform. The whole point of school unithats and of school the whole point of school uniyeah. And of school the whole point of school unino,ih. And of school the whole point of school unino, i. And of school the whole point of school unino, i mean and of school the whole point of school unino, i mean youre school the whole point of school unino, i mean youre teaching no, i mean youre teaching people within the people how to fit within the system. Later on, they can break it. I mean, the point is , it. I mean, the point is, enforcing School Uniforms has been proven to have a beneficial impact on the overall attainment and grades and the all the schools. I went to the comprehensive i went to especially i never wore a school uniform. We went to those kind of and look how stupid you are. Look look how i turned and in fact, a few turned out. And in fact, a few years before went to that years before i went to that school, policy school, they had a policy of calling the teachers by their first school first name. The school is like invented 70s, and they invented in the 70s, and they used negotiate when the used to negotiate when the breaks were, oh, that was good breaks were, oh, that was a good time. Just time. But this one is just someone who heard vaguely about broken and thought, oh, broken windows and thought, oh, lets that kids, because lets do that with kids, because yeah, thats problem with yeah, thats the problem with kids shoes yeah, thats the problem with kidsjust shoes yeah, thats the problem with kidsjust darn shoes yeah, thats the problem with kidsjust darn shiny. Shoes yeah, thats the problem with kidsjust darn shiny. If hoes yeah, thats the problem with kidsjust darn shiny. If wes are just too darn shiny. If we can get rid of that radiance, we could get some proper order. Oh, thats a load of rubbish. Dont know when see i dont know when you see some that having, i dont know when you see s mean, that having, i dont know when you see s mean, having that having, i dont know when you see s mean, having myt having, i dont know when you see smean, having my kidsing, i dont know when you see smean, having my kids in], i mean, and having my kids in school and seeing the focus, its yeah , its a total pain its a yeah, its a total pain and i had to buy some, you know, black shoes for them. And you get an example of sort of about ten of the. Okay ones and ten of the rubbish ones. And you have the rubbish ones. And you have to find the line because you want to get the slightly cool ones. Theres like the geeky ones. Theres like the geeky ones that no one wants with the buckles or whatever. And then youve kind of youve got the kind of sort of fake black and fake trainer black shoes and somewhere in the middle is just right where theyre just a little bit cool , but not little bit cool, but not crossing the line, teaching kids to bend rules and not break them. That will lead to a good society. Well, i think that yes, well, i think that that yes, i believe thats thats i do believe that thats thats thats literally my motto. Thats literally my motto. Right. Now and just the right. So maths now and just the final section to go but itll be a one. We have urine , a classic one. We have urine, energy drinks, erotic art in danger and fake heart attacks. See you welcome back to headliners and kicking off with the mail. And supposedly there are two places in england called blackburn and burnley. Steve, is this true . Yes. Oh, i forgot. Im yes. Oh, i forgot. Im talking to a southerner. Oh, yeah. Talking to a southerner. Oh, yeah. So head north of watford. Yeah. So head north of watford. Keep going to places. Whats watford are zoned to kind of 91w 9113 oh. Oh. Oh. Why do people from blackburn and burnley sound different . Its not the setup to a joke. Scientists will scan peoples mouths using ultrasound to understand why the accents are so dissimilar , even though so dissimilar, even though theyre ten miles apart. Thank heavens scientists worry heavens scientists dont worry about the cancer and the cold fusion. Answering the fusion. Five answering the question why . Oh why do people with accents have with different accents have different accents . Theyre different accents . And theyre going it . Professor going to look into it . Professor claire nantes is heading up the team also said we would especially love to work with families and from south families and people from south asian communities that can asian communities so that we can learn more about all the different accents in east lancashire. Do people from lancashire. Why do people from south like theyve south asia sound like theyve got different accents . Well, please accent. Please do an accent. Do a south asian do a do a south asian blackburn have a swing it. Blackburn have a swing at it. The know heres the worrying thing down the bottom of this story, now story, 15 of people now pronounce the word three with an f as opposed to just 2 in the 19505. I f as opposed to just 2 in the 1950s. I think im one of those free, free, free. Are you doing it wrong . Three are you getting it wrong . Three are you getting it wrong . Three i mean, nick, first of all, youre from around these parts, you . Parts, arent you . Mums near well, my mums from near these parts. You do, can the can you do, can you do the accents . Burnley. Accents . You do a burnley. Burnley is. I havent is it. Burnley is. I havent checked lancashire checked lately, but lancashire has singsong of has a more singsong sort of lancashire , whereas yorkshire lancashire, whereas yorkshire harsher and lancashire is burnley. No, thats definitely burnley. No, thats definitely not it. Well, okay, just help me out. Well, okay, just help me out. My mums from bury , which is my mums from bury, which is like Victoria Wood characters and. Yeah, sounds right. Its tragic that the north, theyre saying that northern accents are dying out in britain, which is horrific, because kids dying out in britain, which is horrifto because kids dying out in britain, which is horrifto all because kids dying out in britain, which is horrifto all sound jecause kids dying out in britain, which is horrifto all sound likeuse kids dying out in britain, which is horrifto all sound like drill ids want to all sound like drill rappers it is a different world. But it is a different world. Ive lost my accent a bit being down i feel terrible down here, and i feel terrible about because just about that because its not just different different about that because its not just differei in different about that because its not just differeiin cumbria different about that because its not just differeiin cumbria dsayent about that because its not just differeiin cumbria dsay lalan, words. In cumbria we say lalan, which little. They have which means little. They have all different all these different words. I lived newcastle for a bit. Lived in newcastle for a bit. They youre going ne. They say youre going to the ne. These arent, these arent normal its normal words, steve. Its completely different words as well and its tragic well as dialect. And its tragic that in that were all the world in general. Were all becoming one homogenous blob. This is globalism. Teamwork globalism. Yeah, yeah. Teamwork or whatever it is. Whereas what we want is to be like, this is the dream. Ten miles apart, completely different. Shouldnt be communicate be able to even communicate at all. Dream just all. Thats the dream. Just completely different languages, seconds apart. Completely different languages, sec im; apart. Completely different languages, sec im; apa thats why we end im sure thats why we end up with that weve with all the accents that weve got. To know that with all the accents that weve got. People to know that with all the accents that weve got. People are know that with all the accents that weve got. People are differentat with all the accents that weve got. People are different. Other people are different. The outgroup from here going back to the comment, i mean, thats interesting thing. Thats the interesting thing. Its talking all this its talking with all this scientific bumf that theyre doing theyre doing it. Its like theyre going the how, but going to reveal the how, but theyre not getting into the why. Its what you were. And also its what you were just saying earlier, nick, it seems like its going to posh seems like its going to be posh accents that actually going accents that are actually going to take over. I know. And they also of words also seem to be a lot of words for , right . Yeah, we for splinter, right . Yeah, we were there was like 20 words. Youve not been northern youve not been to northern words lot splinters words because a lot of splinters in the north. We build houses of wood. Thats a lot this still, thats a lot from this story. Nick went method on this telegraph piece. Tell us all about it, please. After youve brush your teeth. Okay. Thats obscure this is thats obscure as well. Energy. Drink made well. This is energy. Drink made from amazon from urine becomes amazon bestseller. Drink called bestseller. Its a drink called prime. No, its not. Sorry, logan. Paul, this is so it was a crude stunt. Thats what amazon crude stunt. Thats what amazon are calling it by channel 4 filmmakers because theyre saying that amazon have these terrible policies where drivers are forced to urinate in bottles on their delivery runs. Of course, amazon would probably argue forcing argue theyre not forcing they could also could just hold it. But also theyre that amazon theyre saying that amazon x hours. Saying hours. Yeah, theyre saying amazon have amazon executives have a completely picture completely distorted picture of a process anyway. So its a of the process anyway. So its a of the process anyway. So its a of the process anyway. So its a of satire amazon. What a kind of satire on amazon. What they they took urine and they did was they took urine and they did was they took urine and they called it release energy drink, which is quite witty, and they sold it on amazon, but only they sold it on amazon, but only the contacts of the person doing it bought it who knew it was urine. But if hadnt been urine. But if that hadnt been the case, it would have actually been dangerous. Quite the case, it would have actually bndangerousmgerous. Quite the case, it would have actually bndangerous one,ous. Quite the case, it would have actually bndangerous one, probablyjuite a dangerous one, probably illegal isnt urine. A dangerous one, probably illeail isnt urine. A dangerous one, probably illea sterile isnt urine. A dangerous one, probably illea sterile liquid. ;nt urine. A dangerous one, probably illea sterile liquid. No urine. A dangerous one, probably illea sterile liquid. No no. Ie. A dangerous one, probably illewell,ile liquid. No no. Ie. A dangerous one, probably illewell, you. Iquid. No no. Ie. A dangerous one, probably illewell, you know, no no. Ie. A dangerous one, probably illewell, you know, if no. Ie. Got well, you know, if youve got if got an infection then if youve got an infection then its in past, yeah. I was two in the past, yeah. I was told its safe. Told its totally safe. No, thats the person yeah. No, thats the person who told that agenda. Who told you that had an agenda. Josh just say that. But also there was no risk. Surely , because they if surely, because they if someone placed an order, you just didnt have to send the bottle. They could have just cancelled the soap. But did they know that was know at that time that that was what sold . What was being sold . They on to it quick enough . The supplier, dont think the supplier, i dont think they all like a they they stocked it all like a they didnt was didnt put it in. Oh, it was drop shipped. Didnt put it in. Oh, it was dro youreied. Didnt put it in. Oh, it was dro youre saying othennise youre saying othennise imagine that imagine being part of that production to fill Production Team having to fill all bottles. All those bottles. Bit. Yeah. All those bottles. What bit. Yeah. All those bottles. What is bit. Yeah. All those bottles. What is itlit. Yeah. All those bottles. What is it a. Yeah. All those bottles. What is it a goodi. Because what is it a good bit because. Cause i mean, its. Cause i mean, look, its raised theyve done raised awareness. Theyve done their about their little article here about this documentary. Still not this documentary. I still not 100 getting the connection between the selling of it and the fact that, well, theyre saying if amazon workers have to force to do that, the irony would be lets force amazon to sell it without them even noticing their own practise even notice whats they dont even notice whats on their own website. Its just that one reached if i like my links. Really are sticking with the telegraph for some art. Steve, did you some sticky art. Steve, did you get that one . Oh that ones not that. That one. Get that one . Oh that ones not tha no, that one. Get that one . Oh that ones not tha no, hes1t one. Get that one . Oh that ones not tha no, hes talking about and no, hes talking about and i wish didnt because pictured no, hes talking about and i wisoh didnt because pictured no, hes talking about and i wisoh berlusconiiuse pictured no, hes talking about and i wisoh berlusconi familyiictured no, hes talking about and i wisoh berlusconi family wantzd no, hes talking about and i wisoh berlusconi family want to it. Oh berlusconi family want to burn former pms of burn former pms collection of erotic art. Oh, is that a burnley accent, by the way . By the way . Uk. But they want to burn it, can they not . Is it not flammable . What has he been doing with this artwork theyve inherited 25,000 portraits of varying eroticism. Um. Hello. Varying eroticism. Um. Hello. This is why you need a file on your hard drive thats been encrypted with 128 bit passwords. So that even if someone takes the hard drive and puts it in a new machine, they cant access that folder. Apparently im just guessing. Old people. So this is like old people. So this is like old people. Burly berlusconi wasnt yeah. Burly berlusconi wasnt known for his tech skills, was he . A boomer, is he . Hes a bit of a boomer, is what saying. He what youre saying. Yeah. He went hes going went old school where hes going wrong all he bought yeah. All these. He bought them. Rich old. Them. This is like rich old. Yeah. Yeah. 25,000. 25. Yeah. Youl00. 25. Yeah. You say 25. Yeah. You say that, but its less fancy because apparently many of them bought from late night them were bought from Late Night Television channels. Television shopping channels. Its than our jml. If its way better than our jml. If ever youre up at late night, they thats not all. They dont. And thats not all. Not only that thats where i get all of art is late night. It does say some of the works were of questionable taste for i 1 am. Shocked berlusconi 1 am. Shocked that berlusconi did anything of questionable taste. Taste. I mean, its all in a warehouse. I i mean, its all in a warehouse. I mean, i mean, its all in a warehouse. I mean, is that what warehouse. I mean, is that what he have wanted . Surely he he would have wanted . Surely he should in the will. Should have made it in the will. That want money that if you want the money youve got to the art. Youve got to keep the art. Youve got to look at yeah. Youve got to look at it every day. Phrase varying and the phrase varying eroticism, worries eroticism, like worries me, like whats lower end . You whats at the lower end . You know i mean . Like mona lisa know what i mean . Like mona lisa with her boobs worn out with boobs better. But mona lisa with the boobs youve been me. Worry if you could even say that word halfway through. Im just sort of like watershed. Yeah, you just committed watershed. Yeah, you just commitcouldnt a way you couldnt think of a way of of it. Of getting out of it. Fine about talking totally fine about talking antisemitism different antisemitism and different communities. But when it comes to explain to same, it would explain a smile just, oh, yeah. Do you think thats what it was . Was think thats what it was . It was sort covering right this sort of covering up right this from and saudi arabia from the eye. And saudi arabia have a controversial for the have a controversial bid for the womens world cup. Saudi arabia wants nick yeah, saudi arabia wants to host womens world cup as part long term football part of long term football strategy. A obvious problems strategy. A few obvious problems immediately. How would they drive games . Well, thats drive to the games . Well, thats a satire on saudi arabia, youre saying as if thats a misogynist. Satire. A. Its a satire. Its a brilliant satire. Brilliant satire. You drive very well to the games. No. Games. No no. Is they wouldnt be the point is they wouldnt be allowed. Satire the allowed. Its a satire on the regime. Is get there. How misogyny is get there. How would they park . Right. Right. Thats right. Thats right. Thank its ridiculous thank you. Yeah, its ridiculous because its this i mean , lets because its this i mean, lets because its this i mean, lets be i mean, because womens be fair. I mean, because womens football like the most sort football is like the most sort of lefty its like of woke lefty thing. Its like an nightmare. An ongoing hr nightmare. Someone kissed, was kissed, kissed a woman, then was threatened prison but threatened with prison time, but obviously so the gap between leftist womens football and is, you strict islamic you know, a strict islamic regime a bit of a problem although we do know sometimes the woke does align the woke left does weirdly align with strict islamic with with the strict islamic world weird reason world for some weird reason in various on various yeah. Various on various issues. Yeah. Its weird its a weird meeting. Okay. Well look, finally lets to the mail. This lets go to the mail. But this doesnt work lets go to the mail. But this doesntwork mcdonalds. Doesnt work in mcdonalds. Steve, out earlier. Steve, as i found out earlier. Yeah. A con man fakes having a attack restaurants a heart attack at 20 restaurants to paying the bill. Its to avoid paying the bill. Its brilliant. You eat all the food you the floor and they you drop to the floor and they just call an ambulance. Off you go. It wouldnt work for me. Ive thought about overeat ive thought about it. I overeat in restaurants that in restaurants too much that when floor pretending when im on the floor pretending and be oh, loosen and theyll be like, oh, loosen his do the belt as well. His tie and do the belt as well. Oh, i shouldnt had that oh, i shouldnt have had that extra but he didnt get extra thing. But he didnt get away were away with it because were talking about it. But it does seem a good little scam. What do you think, nick . Are you to. What do you think, nick . Are youwell, to. What do you think, nick . Are youwell, his to. What do you think, nick . Are youwell, his name was adidas, well, his name was adidas, which find really he was which i find really he was faking heart but his which i find really he was fakingwas rt but his which i find really he was fakingwas rt letter but his which i find really he was fakingwas rt letter off. His which i find really he was fakingwas rt letter off aids. Name was one letter off aids. Ive that. Can say ive just found that. Can we say that . Can say that dodgy i fake that emma fake that a restaurant. Fake that in a restaurant. Its well yeah, youre right. Itd have longer. Itd have been a longer. A longer scam to do the thing. , i dont think would yeah, i dont think it would work supposedly work in the uk supposedly he sort just getting off sort of kept on just getting off because was like sometimes because it was like sometimes it was 15, £15. Was only like 15, £15. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. You know , so. But yeah, i you know, so. But yeah, i feel like in the uk it wouldnt do it. All right, lets go feel like in the uk it wouldnt do it. All right, lets go and check out fridays front pages. Were going to have, first of all, the daily mail. There is no forgiveness. This thing , only forgiveness. This thing, only total annihilation of hamas. You total annihilation of hamas. You will soon see gaza from the inside telegraph get ready to see gaza from the inside. Guardian warning that relief convoy for gaza too little, too late. The times do your bit to ease israels crisis. Sunak ease israels crisis. Sunak urges saudis to mirror reckless and callous. And finally , the and callous. And finally, the daily star frieze. And those are daily star frieze. And those are your front pages that is all we have time for. Thank you to my guests, steve and alan and nick dixon. Headlines will be back dixon. 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