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Further eight in the evening. And coming up at the end of the houn and coming up at the end of the hour, should the uk adopt a texas style Justice System that would mean sending fewer non violent criminals to prison, making them clean up graffiti instead. A good idea. Get in instead. A good idea. Get in touch. Send us your thoughts on touch. Send us your thoughts on gbviews gbnews. Com or send me a message on our socials. Were at message on our socials. Were at gb news. But first, lets get the News Headlines with elizabeth. Elizabeth. Good afternoon. Its a few minutes past 1 00. Im Elizabeth Callahan in the newsroom. Im callahan in the newsroom. Im the United Nations are warning hospitals in gaza full of wounded people that they could run out of fuel and supplies within the next two days. Israeli army say its allowing safe evacuations for the people in northern gaza as the israeli Prime Minister tells his troops , Prime Minister tells his troops, the next stage is coming. Its the next stage is coming. Its military is attacking hamas by sea and air in gaza and preparing for a ground offensive. There are reports from the Israeli Defence force saying hamas is stopping civilians from leaving. It comes as the leader of the terrorist organisation has met with irans foreign minister in qatar where they continue to where they agree to continue to where they agree to continue cooperation. A spokesperson for the idf told gb news its continuing to let people in northern gaza move from their homes to safety. From their homes to safety. The worst Case Scenario scenario is actually that they would stay in where we plan to conduct our operations, so they should evacuate to the south, where there is places where people can get holed up and take cover for the time being. And indeed , when we finish and indeed, when we finish and complete our operations, we will announce theyll able announce that theyll be able to come their homes. Come back to their homes. The Foreign Office is telling british nationals in gaza to be ready in case the rafah Border Crossing is opened. Its currently the only route out of the territory. A third uk the territory. A third uk government charter flight carrying britons out of israel has departed foreign secretary James Cleverly told gb news the uk government are doing everything they to can get british nationals trapped in gaza. British nationals trapped in gaza. A safe passage out. Gaza. A safe passage out. We have been liaising very, very closely with the Israeli Government, with the Egyptian Government, with the Egyptian Government and we know that there have been talks to try and reopen the rafah crossing. Now, thatis reopen the rafah crossing. Now, that is the Border Crossing between Southern Gaza and egypt at the moment. That is the only credible exit route from people from gaza. We will continue to work to try and get that crossing reopened, although at the moment it is not open and that is, of course, making humanity korean and consular support into gaza incredibly difficult. Difficult. The shadow foreign secretary says the rise in anti semitism in the uk is abysmal and jewish children should feel safe to go to school. David lammy, whose constituency has a large Jewish Community, told gb news they should feel safe and be protected by law. He also said the advice from police is that jewish schools can open the rise in anti semitism is abysmal. We must stand up to this hate the idea that there are schoolchildren in not attending schoolchildren in not attending school through fear not wearing uniform, through fear , people uniform, through fear, people taking off the star of. David taking off the star of. David hiding, pretending that they are not of jewish faith is entirely unacceptable. And i stand in unacceptable. And i stand in solidarity with jewish communities at this time who must have the full protection of the law well onto some Entertainment News now. And madonna has kicked off her delayed celebration tour in london following a Serious Health scare. Nothing really health scare. Nothing really turns. Turns. Love is all we me , me. Love is all we me, me. Love is all we me, me. This 65 year old had to postpone the start date from july after she was admitted to intensive care with a near fatal bacterial infection. She told bacterial infection. She told the audience she didnt think she was going to make it and credited her children with helping her recover the helping her to recover the singer also urged fans to unite as she expressed her sadness over the israel hamas conflict. Over the israel hamas conflict. It over the israel hamas conflict. It breaks my heart to see children suffering, teenagers suffering, elderly people suffering. All of it is heartbreaking. You feel helpless, right . What you feel helpless, right . What can we do . Can we do . Theres a lot we can do to first and foremost , we theres a lot we can do to first and foremost, we can theres a lot we can do to first and foremost , we can say theres a lot we can do to first and foremost, we can say , first and foremost, we can say, i can make a difference because i can make a difference because i enjoy we can bring light to the world with my actions , with the world with my actions, with my words. Each and every day. Each and every day. Each and every day. This is gb news across the uk on tv, in your car , on digital on tv, in your car, on Digital Radio, and on your Smart Speaker by playing by saying play gb news now its back to gb news sunday with. Emily sunday with. Emily thank you very much, elizabeth. So lets bring you up elizabeth. So lets bring you up to date on what has happened in the hamas, israel war. Its been over a week since the hamas terrorist attack on israel. It killed 1300 men, women and children. Since then, over 2200 have reported been killed in israels retaliatory bombing campaign. Thousands of Palestinian Civilians in Gaza Continue to flee to the southern half of the strip after israels order for over a million residents to flee the area. Even residents to flee the area. Even hospitals have been told to evacuate. At a move the world evacuate. At a move the World Health Organisation has said is tantamount to a death sentence. Hamas has told gaza residents to stay put. Now the people of gaza await their fate after israel announced it is gearing up for a comprehensive offensive involving air, sea and land. The idf statement added that soldiers have a strong emphasis on a substantial ground operation. Meanwhile, the leader of hamas is believed to have met with irans foreign minister at a meeting in qatar, where they agreed to continue cooperation against what they call israels occupation of palestinian territory. React to the planned escalation has come from all corners. The Un Relief Agency says gaza is being pushed into an abyss, calling the situation the worst theyve ever seen in russia has asked the Un Security Council to vote on a draft resolution for an immediate ceasefire, with a vote expected tomorrow afternoon. So our reporter Charlie Peters is on the ground ready to talk to us from tel aviv. He joins us now. Thank you very much indeed, charlie , for joining us. Thank charlie, forjoining us. Thank you. You are in tel aviv now. You. You are in tel aviv now. Gazais you. You are in tel aviv now. Gaza is bracing for an Israeli Ground assault, but we know that israel has told gazans, gaza residents to flee from the north. Can you bring us the very latest show . Latest show . Sure. Well, the most recent kinetic effects taking place in this complex battle space have happenedin this complex battle space have happened in the north. Actually away from gaza, where Lebanese Hezbollah appeared to have fired yet more of their anti tank guided munition into northern israel. These skirmishes have israel. These skirmishes have been heightening in the last 24 hours, although there have been several false alerts in the north where Warning Systems such as sirens and terror infiltration alerts have gone off without necessarily that action taking place. There have also been several legitimate reports of violence there. Footage weve seen over the last day and a half certainly showing that targeted munitions have been striking. Israeli defences in the north. And that comes , of in the north. And that comes, of course, as the Israeli Defence forces gather the bulk of their munitions and their personnel in the south for that imminent Ground Invasion. But as youve said , there is still much more said, there is still much more they need to do before that can start. And chiefly that begins start. And chiefly that begins with the removal of Palestinian Civilians in the north of the gaza strip in gaza city, where there are some 1. 1 Million People who have been fleeing south since two mornings ago when that warning was issued or that order was issued, rather, by the idf through a un liaison officers. We dont know how many officers. We dont know how many have made it out of gaza city, but in a briefing last night, a spokesman said that hundreds of thousands had fled. But really it will be insufficient until the idf knows it can use advanced munitions on those hamas military capabilities in the north, which it needs to do to shape the ground, to prepare for that Ground Invasion. And so the delay continues. There will also be other reasons for that delay. The reason why we havent delay. The reason why we havent seen that invasion just yet, some of them are internal to the idf chief, among them, the logistical requirements needed there mobilising an army of half a million troops, kitting them out , a million troops, kitting them out, giving them everything they need, and putting them in the right place with right right place with the right equipment is no feat. And equipment is no small feat. And last week , israel, well, eight last week, israel, well, eight days it was at peace. Now it days ago it was at peace. Now it is in its gravest war for decades. People here saying its the worst violence theyve seen for 50 years. And so as it meets that logistical challenge , it that logistical challenge, it also needs to remove the humanitarian challenge in north gaza. And reduce the threat and the risk of that awful phrase in war, collateral damage. Charlie you say we dont have an idea on the numbers of how many gaza residents have now fled northern gaza. Do we have an idea of how israel are helping those flee . Israel are helping those flee . Is there some kind of humanitarian corridor . How many people are actually on the move currently . Do we have any currently . Do we have any estimate. Esti m ate. Well, estimate. Well, they opened a new humanity safe corridor this afternoon from 10 am. To 1 pm. Local time here, which has now closed. This was an area where the idf said it would conduct no military activities along one of the two main supply routes south from , umm, gaza city. There have from, umm, gaza city. There have been reports in the last day of hamas deliberately blocking civil lines as they flee south. Hamas from its side has also claimed that the Israeli Defence forces have struck in an airstrike. A convoy of 70 people. We cant verify the footage, but the idf strictly claims that it absolutely has not done that and did not conduct any airstrikes on that location at that time. But still, many people have been dying as theyve been fleeing and it has been a desperate scene. The un describes the humanitarian situation there as untenable as International Observers and charity such as the International Red cross, say that such a humanitarian operation, such a relocation, is in possible. It cannot be done. In possible. It cannot be done. And so the delay now well over 48 hours since that issue, since that warning was issued, is now giving civilians more time to flee. And that also allows israel not only to build up its logistical supplies into the south and reaffirm and secure its borders in the north, but it also allows them more time to gather intelligence. Where are hamas hiding in those tunnels underneath gaza city. And it needs more information from air assets and also target acquisition capabilities that it possesses to know where to strike first so that when those first heavy armour convoys enter gaza city, as they almost certainly will in the coming days, they strike accurately and as swiftly as possible an incredibly difficult and complex operation. Operation. Thank you very much indeed. Charlie peters there, our reporter, live from tel aviv. So lets bring in my panel, political commentator and former conservative advisor Claire Pearsall is with me. And we have former labour mp Stephen Pound. I am delighted to say lets just focus , claire, on the focus, claire, on the humanitarian crisis that is unfolding now in gaza. Its heartbreaking to see people forced out of their homes under threat of bombardment. Forced out of their homes under threat of bombardment. The threat of bombardment. The number of casualties continues to rise, i believe, as it stands, we know 2300 is the latest figure from gaza. We say latest figure from gaza. We say israel has a right to defend itself. Clearly theyre trying to make sure that as many people as possible leave the area, that they will move into. Well, thats right. But its well, thats right. But its difficult to understand the volume of people that are going to be coming across from their home and where are they going to go and where are they going to settle. And youve got this pretty awful situation, which is anybody footage anybody who saw the footage yesterday of a convoy being attacked. Now, whether that is attacked. Now, whether that is by israelis , as is claimed or if by israelis, as is claimed or if it is by hamas, which is also claimed, we dont know. But it is pretty horrendous if you encourage people to leave an area and then suddenly they find themselves under bombardment and i think this is only going to continue. And its just most continue. And its just the most heartbreaking image you see of families , women, small children families, women, small children walking along the street, literally with a couple of bags trying to find out where it is they are going to go , where they are going to go, where theyre going to have shelter, food , water and medicine. And food, water and medicine. And i think thats heartbreak aspect. Absolutely. And stephen, israel has, of course , vowed to israel has, of course, vowed to annihilate the Hamas Terrorist Group group hamas has told gaza residents to stay put. That is residents to stay put. That is true cruelty. Yeah look, theres a couple of things. Truth is usually the First Casualty of war and what we have the situation on the saladin highway, the north south highway, there is this there are different conflicting views as to there an attack to whether there was an attack there dont know. But there or not. We dont know. But one thing they taught me back in my , my brief time in my day, my brief time in uniform, ask uniform, was always ask yourself, would your enemy yourself, what would your enemy most to do . And i think most like you to do . And i think if i was in hamas and god forbid i had anything to hamas, i had anything to do with hamas, but actually but what would they actually want want is the want and what they want is the footage of the idf, the Israeli Defence people going Defence Force, people going through forget, through into dont forget, theres thing the gaza theres a thing called the gaza metro. There are more tunnels metro. There are more tunnels underneath than the entire underneath gaza than the entire london system, the London Underground system, the entire London Underground system. So its going to be hand to hand. And its worst sort to hand. And its the worst sort of fighting in world. Its of fighting in the world. Its you know, house to house just on on that point , you know, house to house just on on that point, almost impossible operation on the israelis part to find and target hamas only because they are very much embedded in the population. Its a hugely overpopulated area. We know 2. 3 Million People in this very small area of land. There be very difficult strategically. Strategically. Its slightly less concentration of people per square mile than london or new york, but its still pretty tight. You know, you consider its only about ten miles long. But i agree with you. It but look, i agree with you. It would be almost impossible. I remember mao said remember what general mao said about are about the revolutionaries are like the fish in the sea, in the ocean. And you cant separate them whether you like it or them out whether you like it or not. People voted for hamas in gaza, whether they voted out of not. People voted for hamas in gazeorvhether they voted out of not. People voted for hamas in gazeor loyalty they voted out of not. People voted for hamas in gazeor loyalty a|ey voted out of not. People voted for hamas in gazeor loyalty a longyted out of not. People voted for hamas in gazeor loyalty a long timenut of not. People voted for hamas in gazeor loyalty a long time agof fear or loyalty a long time ago now. Well, hasnt been now. Yeah, well, it hasnt been one what, two thousand one since, what, two thousand and dont think theres and seven . I dont think theres been but going been an election, but its going to incredibly now, to be incredibly difficult. Now, obviously, if you put yourself in Defence Force in the Israeli Defence force position, imagine what would happen said to hamas , happen if they said to hamas, give us the hostages back and well withdraw. Now, obviously well withdraw. Now, obviously neither do that. But i neither will do that. But i think to actually make a gesture because at the moment the propaganda that is actually sweeping middle east, sweeping across the middle east, most the hamas leaders are in most of the hamas leaders are in dubai the uae or , you dubai or in the uae or, you know, in qatar and know, and theyre in qatar and the fact that they are negotiating with iran really shows this. But one shows the light on this. But one thing, that absolutely thing, emily, that absolutely makes me sick my stomach when makes me sick to my stomach when i read about so much of this is nauseating, repulsive and horrific. But the idea of horrific. Yeah, but the idea of putin, the butcher putin calling for a ceasefire, i know how dare he . Yeah, how dare he to lecture anybody on human rights and look what hes done in the past. And i think thats the really interesting aspect is also when you mentioned hezbollah just now, they havent been as involved as i think everybody thought they were going be. Thought they were going to be. Now, could be quietly in now, they could be quietly in the background, which is always now, they could be quietly in tiworry. ground, which is always now, they could be quietly in tiworry. Butlnd, which is always now, they could be quietly in tiworry. But i d, which is always now, they could be quietly in tiworry. But i do which is always now, they could be quietly in tiworry. But i do think is always a worry. But i do think intervention from americans intervention from the americans probably has done world of probably has done a world of good that respect. And good in that respect. And hezbollah is sort of staying put and just sitting on the sidelines. So hopefully we arent be fighting this arent going to be fighting this on so many fronts. And i think thats the real worry for israel, is not only what is going gaza, also on going on in gaza, but also on their northern borders. Back they keep coming back to iran. National guard iran. The Iranian National guard , actually syria at , theyre actually in syria at the present time. You know, syria border. We all know syria has a border. We all know the heights the border syria has a border. We all know the so heights the border syria has a border. We all know the so heifacty the border syria has a border. We all know the so heifact that1e border syria has a border. We all know the so heifact that theyrezr there. So the fact that theyre actually it seems to actually there. But it seems to me that this situation is unbelievably complicated and confused because of the potential , all the real potential, all the real potential, all the real potential, lets be honest , for potential, lets be honest, for a wider conflict , a much, much wider conflict, maybe even a war of Worldwide Global proportions. And thats global proportions. And thats the terrifying thing at the moment. Well, the thing things have kicked off, claire, have they not, on the lebanon border. We have had hezbollah launching missiles at israel. It could missiles at israel. It could very much escalate. It could. And i think this is always the worry. And you do wonder what the end game result is going to be. Is that a distraction technique to say, right, were going to launch the missiles over here to distract from other atrocities going on elsewhere . Is this drawing elsewhere . Is this drawing people out and making it an impossible place to protect its hard to see where this goes other than very, very badly. And other than very, very badly. And i think this is the worry we all have here we are a week later. The situation hasnt moved on and i think it is worth pointing out because there is a lot of nonsense going around, a lot of misinformation as you say, going about that. Hamas are not there to negotiate , that they do not want negotiate, that they do not want to negotiate some kind of peaceful settlement. Its in peaceful settlement. Its in their charter. They would like to see the total wipe out of israel and therefore the jewish residents of that country. Youre watching and listening to gb news sunday with me, emily carville. Weve got lots more coming up on todays so coming up on todays show. So stay with us. As the pentagon pledges and the royal pledges more aid and the royal navy towards israeli navy steams towards the israeli coast ill be asking what the coast to ill be asking what the wests role in the conflict could and should be. All of that and more to come. Could and should be. All of that and more to come. Youre and more to come. Youre watching and listening to gb news, britains news channel earlier on gb news radio earlier this six welcome back to gb news sunday with me, emily carver. Im on your tv online and Digital Radio now a new poll by the broadcaster mpr shows that two thirds of americans say the United States should publicly support israel in the war between israel and hamas. But many are asking what should the wests role in all this be in the conflict , if any . Now, the conflict, if any . Now, Anthony Blinken has been making the rounds of arab countries this week to seek any possible diplomatic solution to the crisis. Thats as rishi sunak crisis. Thats as rishi sunak sends the royal navy to the mediterranean in a show of support with israel. But how else could the west support , else could the west support, support israel and what should they do with regards to this ongoing conflict . With me now is con coughlin defence editor of the telegraph. Thank you the daily telegraph. Thank you very much indeed for your time. Con now i want get on to the con now i want to get on to the us the uk response, but us and the uk response, but first, of escalating first, fears of escalating conflict. Weve seen conflict on the on israels northern border with lebanon as well. How are things looking . Things looking . Well , good afternoon, emily. Well, good afternoon, emily. Well, good afternoon, emily. I mean i think things are looking very dangerous to be honest. I mean , the elephant in the i mean, the elephant in the room in this conflict is iran. Iran funds hamas. Iran funds hezbollah, the militia that controls southern lebanon. It has bases in syria along the Israeli Border and it is making some very dark threats that if israel launched its much anticipated offensive against hamas, then iran will unleash the dogs of war. It will encourage its militias around the middle east to also engage in this conflict. So the stakes are very high and to answer your question about what the western do, fundamentally, the first the First Priority for the western powers is to prevent this conflict from escalating beyond gaza. And israels attack on hamas. Hamas. Thank you. Con, were just looking at some images as of, well, massive plumes of smoke coming from gaza. There for those watching on the television and listening on the radio. Now, the us secretary of state, antony blinken, has been doing well , what you could call antony blinken, has been doing well, what you could call a tour of the region. He sat down with of the region. He sat down with the Saudi Crown Prince in riyadh. What came from that . Well , the saudis are in a well, the saudis are in a very interesting position because before this terrible atrocity was committed last week , the saudis were working with blinken to normalise relations with israel. You know, this is this is a Game Changing deal. If it comes off and some people have suggested that the reason hamas launched its attack last weekend was to ruin this deal. So the saudis in public have been very supportive of the palestinian cause. But i know palestinian cause. But i know from my dealings with the saudis over the years and my visits to riyadh that they are no supporters of hamas. They regard hamas as a as a very Extremist Organisation linked to groups like the Muslim Brotherhood that they dont like it, they dont support it. So i think i think the saudis will quietly be wishing that the israelis succeed in their mission to destroy hamas, that would be my reading of it. And its very difficult for western governments, especially as this conflict we see is playing out in terms of protests , mass rallies across the west. Weve seen, of course, in britain , but also in the states britain, but also in the states in canada , france, germany. This in canada, france, germany. This is tense in our own countries, let alone in israel and gaza. Let alone in israel and gaza. Well, i find it rather perverse. I mean, the israeli perverse. I mean, the israeli people have suffered the worst massacre atrocity since the holocaust. But rather than sympathising with the israelis, the world seems to be supporting the world seems to be supporting the palestine ions, which, you know , just just seems upside know, just just seems upside down to me. But youre right. There are tensions. And i think, you know, the left in particular is agitating on behalf of the palestinian cause. They dont palestinian cause. They dont understand that hamas is an islamist organisation, that is completely opposed to, you know, liberal values in the west. You know, this is an organisation that murders gay men. You know, that murders gay men. You know, it is beyond the pale. And yet it is beyond the pale. And yet the left seems to think that they are, you know, the new cause and for them its very bizarre. Bizarre. For useful idiots, you might call some of them con just a simple question , a simple simple question, a simple question. When you see free palestine sign flags and protests, what do you take that to mean . Free palestine was the question. I mean, i suppose the fundamental thing is that since the six day war , a lot of the the six day war, a lot of the palestinian territory has been under military rule since it was conquered by israel , you know, conquered by israel, you know, 60 odd years ago. So i think from the palestinian perspective and ive lived ive lived out in the region and i know i know the issues very well. The palestinians are desperate to have their own country. That was the original plan or the peace processes that have been taking place over the last 30, 40 years have been designed to create a two state solution. So i think when you talk about free palestine , youre basically, you palestine, youre basically, you know, let the palestinians have some degree of autonomy. But at the moment, when theyre being run by a terrorist organisation , run by a terrorist organisation, then thats completely impossible. Oh, yes. Impossible. Oh, yes. Well, thank you very much indeed for your time. Con coughlin. Thank you forjoining coughlin. Thank you for joining me defence me this afternoon. Defence editor daily telegraph. Editor at the daily telegraph. So lets bring panel. So lets bring in my panel. Well bring in Stephen Pound and claire peirsol just to reflect on what con had to say there in terms of the international response. Stephen Anthony Blinken doing this tour of various arab states, whats your reaction . What can the us do as reaction . What can the us do as some kind of broker of peace trying to keep things as steady as they can be . Its an impossible task. Impossible task. Im not entirely sure that they have complete credibility in the region as as as a neutral agent. Yeah i mean, because they have been consistently been been pro israel for various reasons and they have been quite consistent in that. So i dont think that they can actually claim to be the people of great objectivity there. The fact objectivity there. But the fact that biden has sent that President Biden has sent his state for his secretary of state for defence and antony blinken, both of there talking to of them out there talking to people, with people, firstly its to do with saudi because i mean saudi arabia because i mean con gave very good analysis, gave a very, very good analysis, very analysis. There very succinct analysis. There and what, what arabia was and what, what saudi arabia was doing was actually recognising the of israel. The one the state of israel. The one thing and dont forget thing that iran and dont forget the iranian constitution has it its second characteristic in thatis its second characteristic in that is the destruction of the state israel. You know, state of israel. You know, imagine that constitution imagine that if our constitution said, wanted to get said, you know, we wanted to get rid country, so what rid of another country, so what i think something people i think thats something people dont not enough people dont know or not enough people know well believe that that is the iranian constitution. But one can be doing one thing that they can be doing and i hope they are doing is actually to al sisi, to actually speaking to al sisi, to the egyptians , to open the rafah the egyptians, to open the rafah crossing, moment, crossing, because at the moment, there many british there are many, many british citizens in Southern Gaza or dual nationals who could be crossing that border. Now, why on earth is an islamic country , on earth is an islamic country, egypt, locking that border . Why arent they letting the people through . Now, that is one area, because america has huge economic interests in egypt and also in lebanon. They could be doing more there. And claire, one accusation made from some on the left or some pro palestinian voices is that by the west lending their full support and solidarity to israel , they are in some way israel, they are in some way complicit with the humanitarian crisis that is now unfolding in gaza . No. Should we look at the blame for the humanitarian crisis is down to hamas. So i think that people who make these comments especially it was quite interesting what colm was saying about the free palestine message is people dont understand the history that area. They dont history of that area. They dont understand the political shake ups have happened shake ups that have happened over the years. And theyre not willing to learn. And its quite willing to learn. And its quite interesting stephens interesting what stephens just said crossing said about the rafah crossing egypt american egypt are allowing american citizens across that border only a certain number at a certain time because thats what the us has managed to negotiate with them. I think they should and them. I think they should and probably will be a similar agreement with british citizens to be able to cross that border. But egypts are very, very content with allowing those people over. They dont want hamas coming over. They dont support the Muslim Brotherhood, as cohen was saying there. There is a massive problem in saudi arabia with them and also in egypt. So they dont want that to come across into their country. So its really difficult on the humanitarian front , on the political front. Front, on the political front. And think that we are best to and i think that we are best to sit there and offer the diplomatic support at the moment as a United Kingdom , rather than as a United Kingdom, rather than wading in any further. I think thatis wading in any further. I think that is the best we can do. That is the best we can do. Yeah. And on that on that point in terms of people not understanding the history around around this area of the world, theres a huge amount of these sort of quick video clips going around on all social media platforms that young people are digesting, watching and thinking they know everything. And its they know everything. And its sometimes a little bit of knowledge is a is a dangerous thing. But youre watching and thing. But youre watching and listening to gb news sunday with me. Emily carver. Thank you. Claire you, stephen. Claire thank you, stephen. Weve got up got plenty more coming up on todays were going to todays show. Were going to take a at take a look at the pro palestinian protest that took yesterday london pro palestinian protest that took eveningrday london pro palestinian protest that took evening and london pro palestinian protest that took evening and the ondon into the evening and the numerous demonstrate actions that place across the that are taking place across the west. But first, lets get the news. Yes, were going to be talking that. Im going to talking about that. Im going to be and claires be getting stephen and claires perspective. Going to perspective. Were also going to be number of other be going to a number of other experts on the region. But first, get the news with first, lets get the news with elizabeth. Elizabeth. Its just after 130. Im Elizabeth Callahan in the newsroom. Im the United Nations newsroom. Im the United Nations are warning hospitals in gaza could run out of fuel and suppues could run out of fuel and supplies within the next two days. Hospitals have been ovennhelmed with the wounded as well as those seeking refuge , well as those seeking refuge, according to the gaza health ministry. 2329 palestinians have ministry. 2329 palestinians have been killed since hamas launched its attack on israel last saturday. The Israeli Military says its allowing safe evacuate opfions says its allowing safe evacuate options for the people in northern gaza. Prime minister northern gaza. Prime minister Benjamin Netanyahu convened his israeli Emergency Council for the first time in a show of unity and to prepare for what he described as demolish hamas in gaza. There are reports from the Israeli Defence force saying hamas is stopping people from leaving and are currently holding 120 civilians hostage. It comes as the leader of the terrorist organisation has met with irans foreign minister in qatar, where they agreed to continue cooperation. A spokesperson for idf told gb news its continuing to let people in northern gaza move from their homes to safety. The worst Case Scenario is actually that they would stay in where we plan to conduct our operations , so they should operations, so they should evacuate to the south, where there is places where people can get holed up and take cover for the time being. And indeed, when we finish and complete our operations, we will announce that to come that theyll be able to come back homes. Back to their homes. The Foreign Office is telling british nationals in gaza to be ready in case the rafah Border Crossing is opened. Its currently the only route out of the territory. A third uk the territory. A third uk government chartered flight carrying britons out of israel has departed. Foreign secretary James Cleverly told gb news the uk government are doing everything they to can get british nationals trapped in gaza. British nationals trapped in gaza. A safe passage out. Gaza. A safe passage out. We have been liaising very, very closely with the Israeli Government, with the Egyptian Government, with the Egyptian Government and we know that there have been talks to try and reopen the rafah crossing. Now, thatis reopen the rafah crossing. Now, that is the Border Crossing between Southern Gaza and egypt at the moment. That is the only credible exit route for people from gaza. We will continue to work to try and get that crossing reopened, although at the moment it is not open and that is, of course, making humanity fryston and consular support into gaza incredibly difficult. Difficult. The mother in law of scotlands first minister said her goodbyes in a phone call sparked by a false alarm last night. She called humza yousaf night. She called humza yousaf and his wife after a neighbour told them they had to evacuate the residents they were staying in in gaza because it was due to be hit by a missile. The first minister said hearing her believe she was going to die was a horrific experience. However, a horrific experience. However, the alert was a false alarm. He says he will back a potential uk government scheme to accept israelis and palestinians seeking to flee the violence as you can get more on all of those stories by visiting our website gb news. Com stories by visiting our website gbnews. Com. Gbnews. Com. Thank you, elizabeth. Weve got lots more coming up on todays show. So do stay tuned. Todays show. So do stay tuned. Youll get my panels reaction as we discuss the mass demonstrations for pro palestinian support that weve seen in london and across the west, really yesterday. But first, lets take a look at the weather jonathan in. Weather with jonathan in. Hello there. Im jonathan vautrey. Who of your latest gb vautrey. Who of your latest gb news Weather Forecast provided by the met office . There is a fine couple of ahead for fine couple of days ahead for many of us and theres lot of many of us and theres a lot of nice around nice conditions around throughout the rest of this afternoon well. Afternoon and evening as well. The across the showers we do have across northern easing northern scotland will be easing back see some back a touch might see some isolated mist and fog patches forming well. And forming overnight as well. And temperatures will be temperatures will certainly be dropping once dropping off for many of us once again. Another on again. Another chilly night on the. Low mid single the cards. Low to mid single figures in many of our towns and cities. A touch of is cities. But a touch of frost is certainly possible in some rural areas you may well areas as well. So you may well need extra layers as you need some extra layers as you start off the day on monday morning, well a touch more morning, well be a touch more cloud around on monday compared to throughout cloud around on monday compared to weekend. Throughout cloud around on monday compared to weekend. So throughout cloud around on monday compared to weekend. So skiesthroughout cloud around on monday compared to weekend. So skies aoughout cloud around on monday compared to weekend. So skies a bitjhout this weekend. So skies a bit milkier and sunshine hazier in places, but some sunshine trying to poke its way and to poke its way through and still dry most of still largely dry for most of us. Showers fringing into us. Showers just fringing into the south east of the very far south east of england. Still see some england. Might still see some across northern scotland as well, where it will a well, where it will be a breezier day. Winds breezier day. The winds also strengthening across southwest england. Temperatures up by england. Temperatures up by a degree a few places, degree or so in a few places, generally around 11 to 13 c. This rain in the southwest, though, is a signal of things to come. This area of low pressure will be gradually its will be gradually pushing its way northwards as we head throughout of the week. Throughout the rest of the week. High clinging on the far though, clinging on to the far north east. After north east. So scotland after a pretty chilly seeing pretty chilly start, seeing a decent sunshine decent amount of sunshine throughout. Elsewhere, throughout the day. Elsewhere, this cloud will be this shield of cloud will be pushing its way northwards as we start developing start to see gales developing across and across parts of wales and southwest england. 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Im on your tv online and Digital Radio. Weve relocated to the comfortable sofas in the studio , which is rather nice. Studio, which is rather nice. Were going to be talking about the protests that were ongoing yesterday. The pro palestinian protests. The former hamas chief protests. The former hamas chief called for a global day of jihad in support of the palestinian cause, prompting leaders across the world to step up security in a bid to prevent any spill over violence from the war. Now, france, which has europes largest muslim and jewish populations , banned all populations, banned all pro palestinian protests altogether. They used water cannon and tear gas, which you cannon and tear gas, which you can see on the screen now to disperse those defying the order in paris. Now closer to home, thousands of people took to the streets london to rally for streets of london to rally for the palestinians yesterday day. Now, joining me now is gb news Political Correspondent Katherine Forster sir catherine, as i understand you were there at the protest yesterday during the day. What did you see . Well, i was there from about 11 00 close to the bbc where everybody was assembling right through until about 3 30 in the afternoon. And i followed the afternoon. And i followed the rally as it moved down Regent Street , down rally as it moved down Regent Street, down haymarket, and ultimately along whitehall to outside number 10 downing street. Now now, important to say that despite the images you will see on social media and ill come to those in a moment, but by and large, it was predominantly peaceful. There were large numbers of people from all backgrounds, all ages, some elderly people , disabled some elderly people, disabled people, little children, toddlers, baby , his dogs, even. Toddlers, baby, his dogs, even. And it was largely peaceful. People i spoke to were generally voicing concern for the Palestinian People in gaza now and feeling that theyd had a rough deal going ing back over previous decades. Now there was over 10,000. The police estimated 10,000, i would say probably more. Estimated 10,000, i would say probably more. There were probably more. There were a thousand police, some of them armed , some of them on armed, some of them on horseback. They were very clear about what they were looking for that would constitute grounds for arrests such as hamas or hezbollah flags such as peoples faces being completely covered. Now, certainly there were 15 arrests, seven of them were dunng arrests, seven of them were during the course of the protest, during the day. And then there were a further eight in Trafalgar Square where you might have seen rather more ominous signs , young men wearing ominous signs, young men Wearing Masks setting off flares in the colours of the palestinian flag, altercations with police. Nine police treated for minor injuries. Now the home secretary, suella braverman, in the last hour has said on twitter, thank you to Police Officers who worked so hard yesterday in difficult circumstances to manage. Tens of circumstances to manage. Tens of thousands of protesters , thousands of protesters, numerous arrests were made as a result of pockets of disorder and violence and hate. She then and violence and hate. She then goes on to say to all those who saw fit to promote genocide, go glorify terrorism and mock the murder of jewish people , murder of jewish people, including women and babies , as including women and babies, as the police are coming for you. So i think theres also been a statement from the metropolitan police this afternoon that although there were 15 arrests dunng although there were 15 arrests during the course of yesterday, that does not mean that further arrests will not be made because, of course, theres footage of, for instance, on the front page of the daily mail, two girls whod got pictures of paratroopers, sellotaped it onto their backs. Clearly a reference to the Hamas Terrorists who came in by air to slaughter innocent israelis just over a week ago. Also other footage on social media which has emerged, which is quite disturbing. So it is quite disturbing. So it sounds like the police will be pursuing those individuals and we will wait to see what further action may be taken. Action may be taken. Well, thank you very much indeed for bringing us the latest those rallies latest from those rallies yesterday day, Political Correspondent forster correspondent Katherine Forster from westminster. There we are. From westminster. There we are. With me is my panel, from westminster. There we are. With me is my panel , stephen with me is my panel, Stephen Pound and Claire Pearsall. Now, pound and Claire Pearsall. Now, catherine was there during the day, piers had a peaceful as we went into the evening. Now, i was i was down there for a short amount of time as well, just because i happened to be in the area for something. Yes, area for something. And yes, there numbers of there were huge numbers of people walking in a people most walking in a straight line, not many people deviating too far, but it was quite an intimidating scene. And i imagine forjewish communities i imagine for jewish communities it would be youd want to stay away. There were no israeli flags, for example , and jeremy flags, for example, and Jeremy Corbyn stood and gave a speech to those gathering. And on to those gathering. And on twitter he wrote that were mourning, were gathering to mourning, were gathering to mourn the loss of israeli as well as palestinian lives. Now, well as palestinian lives. Now, i think it would take a very brave person to go to this gathering with an israeli flag. And well get on to some of the scuffles that may or may have come aftennards. Come aftennards. I think it was largely when you have protests , you get a you have protests, you get a large number of people and it is mainly peaceful and weve seen this with protests across london throughout the years , throughout the years, remembering back to sort of may day and student marches is what becomes apparent is that there was always a minority of people who are out there to cause trouble and thats what you see and thats what you get with the police having to clear people up out of Trafalgar Square. Theyve deviated from route. They deviated from the route. They have wound up by each have been wound up by each other, by somebody like Jeremy Corbyn to the stage. And corbyn taking to the stage. And theyre to cause grief theyre out there to cause grief. Thing was very, very. One thing that was very, very impressive of the metropolitan police i dont do this police and i dont do this lightly, is that they had paid attention to what was going on on social media as well as what was on the streets. But was going on on the streets. But it was heartening to see it was quite heartening to see that they were taking peoples video things that video footage and things that had uploaded and they were had been uploaded and they were saying, are going saying, we are going to investigate they investigate. And they also clamped on bits of fake clamped down on bits of fake news the news going around the misinformed action that you were talking about and talking about earlier. And i think real step think that that is a real step up , that this isnt think that that is a real step up just , that this isnt think that that is a real step up just because at this isnt think that that is a real step up just because the1is isnt think that that is a real step up just because the marcht think that that is a real step up just because the march is over just because the march is oven over just because the march is over. The police are going to continue cctv footage continue looking at cctv footage , peoples footage theyve put up on social media across all platforms. So i think that that kind of proactive policing is really going to help. What, though, you know what, though, stephen . Find it deeply, stephen . I find it deeply, deeply im sure deeply depressing. And im sure many and many of our viewers and listeners see these listeners do, too, to see these kind out kind of conflicts play out in the west in terms of protests. And have seen, unfortunately , and we have seen, unfortunately, people with, as catherine said, with paratroopers on their backs , which represent presumably hamas. Oh, sorry. Just to go to our live footage here, were seeing massive plumes of smoke from gaza. It looks like an explosion, dark clouds across the skyline there. It is, of the skyline there. It is, of course, still the daytime in gaza, broad, broad daylight there. Steven, coming back to there. Steven, coming back to the rallies here, people with showing support for hamas as well. Also the chanting of from the river to the sea should that be allowed . Well, of course, it should be allowed. I think its offensive. Allowed. I think its offensive. But on the other hand, a terrorist group , is that not terrorist group, is that not showing support, considering the events of recent days . I its in events of recent days . I its in foul taste and its offensive. Its disgusting. But i dont its disgusting. But i dont think we want to go down the route that the french have gone down of actually sending the crews out onto the streets and throwing tear gas and everything crews out onto the streets and tiiowing tear gas and everything crews out onto the streets and tiiowingthat gas and everything. I think that gives a propaganda victory. I think that gives a propaganda victory. And i think propaganda victory. And i think claire absolutely claire was absolutely right to say police say that the police were actually on this actually quite subtle on this particular occasion. But mean, particular occasion. But i mean, i you years and i remember, you know, years and years livingstone years ago with Ken Livingstone going must going begging reagan, you must know we support plo. You know we support the plo. You know, doing this for know, weve been doing this for years and but years and years and years. But the went by the thing that when i went by yesterday evening, the thing that my craw , that really stuck in my craw, the thing i thought was so sickening disgusting was the thing i thought was so sick stalls disgusting was the thing i thought was so sickstalls up disgusting was the thing i thought was so sickstalls up byigusting was the thing i thought was so sickstalls up by groupsj was the thing i thought was so sickstalls up by groups like. The stalls set up by groups like the stalls set up by groups like the socialist Workers Party and some revolutionary communist party. Them it was party. And for them it was a glastonbury approach. I dont glastonbury approach. I dont want to come across like mr angry of ely, but it really infuriates me youve got infuriates me that youve got hundreds people hundreds of thousands of people there genuinely there and some of them genuinely , genuinely concerned about , genuinely are concerned about the situation, the humanitarian situation, genuinely concerned about escalation. Other people are escalation. Other people are coming leeches on the body coming like leeches on the body politic, bedbugs. Politic, like bedbugs. Well, i cant i cant get it out of my head. Immediately after the terror attack launched by were people out by hamas, there were people out selling dating. That was before there was any israel , any there was any israel, any retaliation, no bombardments had occurred following that attack yet. And we saw people out in the streets of london and elsewhere in this country out celebrating and they were celebrating. Lets be lets be real there. But, yes, its a difficult question with the freedom to protest freedom of expression. Im just sad it is even happening on our streets. But anyway, weve got lots more coming up todays show. Coming up on todays show. Justice alex chalk mp justice secretary alex chalk mp has pledged community has pledged more Community Service and less of what he sees as the merry go round short as the merry go round of short sentences. Ill be asking if sentences. Ill be asking if britain needs a dosage of texas style justice. All of that and more to come. Im emily carver and youre watching and listening to gb news with britains channel. Isabel monday to thursdays from. Six till 930. Six till 930. Welcome back to gb news sunday with me , emily carver. Sunday with me, emily carver. Im on your tv online and Digital Radio now. Alex chalk, Digital Radio now. Alex chalk, the justice secretary, has pledged to pursue texas style justice. That means sending fewer low level offenders to pnson fewer low level offenders to prison and making them do Community Service. Things like Community Service. Things like cleaning up graffiti instead of the so called merry go round of short sentences that so called by him , i believe. Now, after by him, i believe. Now, after figures released last week showed mass overcrowding in britains prisons, fears many convicted criminals are being released straight onto britains streets. Can the justice secretarys plans help clear britains jail backlog . So i want to see what my panel make of this one. Its an interesting proposal , of this one. Its an interesting proposal, isnt of this one. Its an interesting proposal , isnt it, stephen . Proposal, isnt it, stephen . Texas style justice. So essentially low level offenders would get things like clean up graffiti , Community Service, graffiti, Community Service, plant forest arts is another suggestion is this a good thing . Well, i have to say it smacks of absolute desperation to me. I of absolute desperation to me. I mean, weve got nearly 100,000 people in prisons in england and wales. Theres twice as many people in prison today as there are royal navy. And are in the royal navy. And i think which is, know, pretty think which is, you know, pretty depressing in my opinion. Alex chalk decent chalk is one of the decent people. Person. I people. Hes a good person. I think agree that across think we can agree that across the political divide. But this idea hes going to turn the political divide. But this idea some1es going to turn the political divide. But this idea some sortgoing to turn the political divide. But this idea some sort of ng to turn the political divide. But this idea some sort of boss turn the political divide. But this idea some sort of boss hogg into some sort of boss hogg figure with a chain figure in a texan with a chain gang working up and down the western avenue, picking up graffiti you know , graffiti and singing, you know, work and chain gang songs, work songs and chain gang songs, you know, bonkers. Look, we you know, its bonkers. Look, we weve had for years, weve had this weve had Community Service. Weve service. You know, weve got round way, people round my way, have people cleaning up churches the round my way, have people clea and up churches the round my way, have people clea and painting hes the round my way, have people clea and painting communitythe way and painting Community Centres and actually working on my allotments actually help centres and actually working on my all working actually help centres and actually working on my all working to actually help centres and actually working on my all working to actually. Y help centres and actually working on my all working to actually helpp people working to actually help some of the groups of special needs kids we have weve got it already. Or is this more to do with the fact that you cant get another person in so, so little space in wormwood scrubs prison having to come out. I think i think thats the point isnt it . I mean, i personally would find it more desirable for most people whove committed crime to be in committed a crime to be in pnson committed a crime to be in prison for their sentence if they are sentenced such. They they are sentenced to such. They may be a coincidence. Liz but liz truss was actually in texas yesterday, i believe, meeting with the senator there. I think weve got a picture. I dont know, maybe, perhaps they were talking. There she is looking dapper in her in her red dress. Ted cruz. So yes, perhaps a little coincidence. What do you little coincidence. What do you think this is all about . Well , i think this is all about . Well, i think think this is all about . Well , i think largely its to well, i think largely its to do with there is no space within the prison estate, but yes, you can look at rehabilitation. You can look at rehabilitation. You can look at rehabilitation. You can look at what you do to stop those low level offenders from going into the prison system and picking up extra skills to come outside and go on to worse crimes. Its a very, very different if youre doing it in texas. The chain gang, the hard laboun texas. The chain gang, the hard labour, that kind of thing. I think were a bit soft when it comes to what we make people do in the community. We give them tasks where they might like to be inside. They might be quite comfortable doing it. And i think lets all be a little bit harsher. Lets go along and do some rubbish cleaning. It doesnt out the doesnt matter what out in the rain, sleet, rain, out in the sleet, out in the snow, going to make this a disincentive to continue on in a life of crime. Then you have to life of crime. Then you have to make this hard for you. Stephen can you guess how many currently many people are currently incarcerated at the moment . Incarcerated at the moment . Yes, about 94,860. Well perhaps in england and wales its 88,225. Thats a lot of people. Surely we just need to build some more prisons. Well, we do, but look, i mean, the idea of bringing back the public stocks and having people humiliate it in public may its attractions to may have its attractions to certain it doesnt work certain people. It doesnt work for one great for me. I think one of the great Unsung Heroes of the last 15 years been timpsons the years have been timpsons the shoe what they shoe people, because what they do employ people do is they employ people from pnson do is they employ people from prison to give them a job. Look, when, when actually when, when, when i actually was a officer in dartmoor for a prison officer in dartmoor for a prison officer in dartmoor for a while for Reality Television a while for a Reality Television programme called goodness me, its a what a life on the worlds not ready for the full story yet. But. But what i discovered very quickly was 70 of the people in there were illiterate had no jobs illiterate and they had no jobs to so what need to go to. So what they need is jobs than shaming people jobs rather than shaming people in public. Yeah , yeah. If you if you oh yeah, yeah. If you if you dont see that you have any other options, a life of other options, perhaps a life of crime reformatory. But other options, perhaps a life of crime got reformatory. But other options, perhaps a life of crime got lots reformatory. But other options, perhaps a life of crime got lots morelatory. But other options, perhaps a life of crime got lots morelatory. Bup on weve got lots more coming up on todays cut you weve got lots more coming up on todthere, cut you weve got lots more coming up on todthere, we cut you weve got lots more coming up on todthere, we mustcut you weve got lots more coming up on todthere, we must moveu weve got lots more coming up on todthere, we must move on. Off there, but we must move on. Israel preparing israel is preparing for a coordinated ground and coordinated air, ground and naval offensive gaza. Well naval offensive in gaza. Well be to tel aviv in be going live to tel aviv in the next for the very latest. Next hour for the very latest. Stay with us. All of that and more am emily carver. More to come. I am emily carver. Youre and listening to youre watching and listening to gb channel. Good afternoon. This is gb news sunday. Thank you for joining us. Im emily carver. And for the next hour, ill be keeping you company on your tv online and so coming up, and Digital Radio. So coming up, well getting very latest well be getting the very latest live from tel aviv. Thousands of Palestinian Civilians in Gaza Continue to flee to the southern half of the strip. Thats after israels for over israels order for over a million residents to flee the area. Even hospitals have been area. Even hospitals have been told evacuate and move. The told to evacuate and move. The World Health Organisation has said tantamount to death said is tantamount to a death sentence. Hamas has told gaza residents to stay put. And then residents to stay put. And then as the world watches the situation in israel and gaza with bated breath, ill be discussing the potential for this conflict to spiral into a wider regional war. And ill be speaking to an expert on who exactly see all the big players are in the middle east and coming up at the end of the houn coming up at the end of the hour, well be going live to a vigil in remembrance of the 1200 israelis who have lost their lives in the horrifying act of terror perpetrated by hamas last week. Please do get in touch week. Please do get in touch throughout the show. Send us your thoughts on gbviews gbnews. Com. Send us a message on our socials. Were at gb news. Keep in touch. But first, lets get the news with Elizabeth Callahan. Good afternoon. Its a few minutes past two. Im Elizabeth Callahan in the newsroom. The callahan in the newsroom. The United Nations are warning hospitals in gaza that they could run out of fuel and suppues could run out of fuel and supplies within the next two days. Hospitals have been ovennhelmed with the wounded as well as those seeking refuge. Well as those seeking refuge. According to the gaza health ministry, 2329 palestinians have been killed since hamas launched its attack on israel last saturday. The Israeli Military says its allowing safe evacuations for the people in northern gaza. Prime minister Benjamin Netanyahu convened his israeli Emergency Council for the first time in a show of unity and to prepare for what he described as demolish hamas in gaza. Described as demolish hamas in gaza. There are reports from the gaza. There are reports from the Israeli Defence force saying hamas is stopping people from leaving and are holding 120 civilians as hostage. It comes civilians as hostage. It comes as the leader of the terrorist organisation has met with irans foreign minister in qatar, where they agreed to continue cooperation as well. A spokesperson for the idf told gb news its continuing to let people in northern gaza move from their homes to safety. From their homes to safety. The worst Case Scenario scenario is actually that they would stay in where we plan to conduct our operations, so they should evacuate to the south, where there is places where people can get holed up and take cover for the time being. And indeed , when we finish and indeed, when we finish and complete our operations, we will announce be able announce that theyll be able to come to homes. Come back to their homes. The Foreign Office is telling british nationals in gaza to be ready in case the rafah Border Crossing is opened. Its currently the only route out of the territory a uk government flight carrying britons out of israel has departed today. Foreign secretary James Cleverly told gb news the uk government are doing everything they can to get british nationals trapped in gaza. A safe passage out. We have been liaising very, very closely with the Israeli Government, with the Egyptian Government, with the Egyptian Government and we know that there have been talks to try and reopen the rafah crossing. Now, thatis reopen the rafah crossing. Now, that is the Border Crossing between Southern Gaza and egypt at the moment. That is the only credible exit route from people from gaza. We will continue to work to try and get that crossing reopened , although at crossing reopened, although at the moment it is not open and that is, of course, making humanity korean and consular support into gaza incredibly difficult. Difficult. The mother in law of scotlands first minister said her goodbyes in a phone call sparked by a false alarm last night. She called humza yousaf night. She called humza yousaf and his wife after a neighbour told them they had to evacuate the residents they were staying in in gaza because it was due to be hit by a missile. The first minister said hearing her believe she was going to die was a horrific experience. However the alert was a false alarm. He the alert was a false alarm. He says he will back a potential uk government scheme to allow israelis and palestinians seeking to flee the violence. Seeking to flee the violence. The shadow foreign secretary says the rise in anti semitism in the uk is abysmal and jewish children should feel safe to go to school. David lammy, whose constituency has a large Jewish Community, told gb news they should feel safe and be protected by law. He also said the advice from police is that jewish schools can open. Jewish schools can open. The rise in antisemitism is abysmal. We must stand up to this hate. The idea that there this hate. The idea that there are schoolchildren not attending school through fear , not wearing school through fear, not wearing uniform, through fear, people taking off the star of. David taking off the star of. David hiding, pretending that they are not of jewish faith is entirely unacceptable. And i stand in unacceptable. And i stand in solidarity with jewish communities at this time who must have the full protection version of the law. Version of the law. The metropolitan police says its urgently reviewing footage and other material posted online following the faux pas palestinian protest in Central London yesterday. The force says it has evidence of criminal offences being committed and officers are working to identify and arrest those responsible. And arrest those responsible. While the demonstration was mainly peaceful without major issues. But 15 people were arrested as pockets of disorder broke out later in the evening. Broke out later in the evening. This is gb news across the uk on tv , in your car and digital tv, in your car and Digital Radio and on your Smart Speaker by saying play gb news now its back to gb news sunday with. Emily thank you, elizabeth. Now thank you, elizabeth. Now were going to be talking to Charlie Peters live from tel aviv in just one moment. But lets bring you up to date on whats happened over the last week it of course , week or so. It has, of course, been over a week now since the hamas terrorist attack on israel that killed 1300 people. Since then , over 2200 people have been then, over 2200 people have been killed in israels retaliatory bombing campaign. Killed in israels retaliatory bombing campaign. Now thousands bombing campaign. Now thousands of Palestinian Civilians in Gaza Continue to flee to the southern half of the strip after israels order for over a million residents to flee the area. Even residents to flee the area. Even hospitals have been told to evacuate and move. The World Health Organisation has said is tantamount to a death sentence and hamas has ordered gaza residents to stay put , though residents to stay put, though now the people of gaza await their fate. After israel announced it is gearing up for a comprehensive offensive involving air sea and land. The idf statement added that soldiers have a strong emphasis on a substantial ground operation. Meanwhile, the leader operation. Meanwhile, the leader of hamas is believed to have met irans foreign minister at a meeting in qatar, where they agreed to continue cooperation against what they call israels occupation of palestinian territory. We well, reaction to territory. We well, reaction to the planned escalation has come from all corners. The Un Relief Agency says gaza is being pushed into an abyss , calling the into an abyss, calling the situation the worst theyve ever seen. So our reporter charlie is on the ground in tel aviv for us. He joins us. Charlie charlie, thank you very much for joining me. Can you please bring us the latest from where you are so in the last hour, weve heard comments from the Israeli Defence minister, yoav galant, down in the south, who says that the Israeli Defence force is will totally destroy hamas. He said that it will be a precise war, a deadly war and a war that will change the situation nation forever. At the same time, weve also heard from Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu, who also in the last hour at his military headquarters here in tel aviv, has said that they are going to flatten hamas in north gaza. And that comes as more israeli airstrikes land on the gaza strip. We have seen a slight reduction today in the number of targets hit. They said this morning that they hit dozens of targets overnight, the night before they hit 750. But this is a classic indicator of an imminent invasion in the calm before the storm, a slight reduction in targeting as they gather more information, but also as they try and have 1. 1 Million People ordered to flee from north gaza to the south. They want them below the wadi gaza, the river that cuts halfway across the gaza strip so that they can conduct further targeting operations from the air, but also from the sea before they launch a ground operation in from the side and the east of the gaza strip. Well, thats all talk from galant and netanyahu. But in the galant and netanyahu. But in the north, there has been more action and the Israeli Defence forces firing on positions of Lebanese Hezbollah in southern lebanon, who also launched another anti tank guided missile on an israeli outpost. Also in on an israeli outpost. Also in the last hour. This is a the last hour. This is a troubling situation for the israelis because Lebanese Hezbollah has a significantly more Strong Military capability than hamas. They make hamas look like a smaller regional player in comparison , their military in comparison, their military budget is in the hundreds of millions, and they are said to have tens of thousands of fighters and also longer range rockets and more rockets available, especially after hamas has been firing for the last nine days. So a very troubling situation for the israelis on the north as they continue to engage with hezbollah, but also to have to build up that logistical supply ahead of a likely Ground Invasion in the south, where a significant armoured convoy has gathered. Gathered. Now, charlie, i understand that israel have delayed their planned ground assault, as you say, is that to try and buy some time for those gazan residents who do need to flee. Who do need to flee. Well, i think they probably realise that their 24 hour window noticed, offered two days ago was insufficient, especially as hamas tried to delay the number of people going down immediately when the order was given, hamas came out and said that it was propaganda and ordered civilians to ignore it. Then we heard reports yesterday of hamas putting blockades in the to and there are just two main supply routes going from the north to the south. And so since then, the Israeli Defence forces have instigated to what they describe as humanitarian safe corridors. Yesterday there was one available for six hours. Today there was one for four hours. In this period, they said they would not conduct any operations from the air or from artillery in the near the gaza strip on those locations. Now, strip on those locations. Now, we still dont know how many people have headed south, but we did hear from an idf spokesman last night who said hundreds of thousands had left. But still the information is very vague. But what we do know is that the humanitarian situation across the gaza strip dire in the the gaza strip is dire in the north. Its untenable. And in north. Its untenable. And in the south, people are desperate for water and food. As the rafah crossing into egypt remains closed. And there was hope very closed. And there was hope very briefly yesterday after some american diplomacy with the qataris, egyptians and israelis, that that crossing may open. But we heard and saw no reports that such an opening had occurred and so many people gathering on the south and indeed, at the orders of the british Foreign Office who are telling any nationals in the strip to there. The gaza strip to go there. There waiting for for that there waiting for that, for that opening happen. But itjust there waiting for that, for that openhere happen. But itjust there waiting for that, for that openhere in|appen. But itjust there waiting for that, for that open here in israel. But itjust there waiting for that, for that open here in israel. The itjust there waiting for that, for that open here in israel. The uk ust isnt here in israel. The uk Foreign Office has taken off four flights, four evacuation flights today in israel and two more are planned for tonight. But when it comes to getting britons out of gaza, the situation remains extremely challenging. Well, thank you very much indeed. Charlie peters, our reporter live from tel aviv. Thank you for joining reporter live from tel aviv. Thank you forjoining us reporter live from tel aviv. Thank you for joining us this this sunday lunchtime. Now, let me bring in my panel, Claire Pearsall and Stephen Pound are with me this afternoon. Claire, with me this afternoon. Claire, you heard there that from charlie that hamas has ordered gaza residents to stay put. If gaza residents to stay put. If anyone was under the illusion that hamas is some acts in in the best interests of the Palestinian People , well, youll Palestinian People, well, youll know that cant be true with that advice that theyre giving. That advice that theyre giving. Absolutely. Hamas do not care about the individuals , the about the individuals, the citizens within gaza. Absolutely. Only care for themselves. And i think that thatis themselves. And i think that that is evident. And as we were saying earlier, not everybody who lives in gaza has voted for these individuals. They havent held democratically open elections for some time. And the majority of those younger people now growing up will have never voted for them. So i hope that we are going to see the end to this, but its going to be a really nasty, battle and you wonder how many innocent people are going to lose their lives and hamas will likely just disappear through the Pipeline System and disappear off into the aether. And i think thats the aether. And i think thats the really worrying aspect of it, is that youre not going to get held to justice get those people held to justice as they should be. Stephen, there is, of course, the concern and im not sure what one can do about this is theres the concern that this could radicalise further People Living in gaza. Living in gaza. Right . Right . I mean, seeing the bombardment of the territory. Bombardment of the territory. But dont forget gaza has a very young population. I mean, the majority of the population are under the age of its are under the age of 25. Its a very, very young population. And they are in many ways the sort of people who could be radicalised by this. But i think we back we need to actually step back just for a second and just think what worst scenario what is the worst Case Scenario at time . Know, at the present time . You know, hope prepare at the present time . You know, hofthe prepare at the present time . You know, hofthe worst. Prepare at the present time . You know, hofthe worst. Syria prepare at the present time . You know, hofthe worst. Syria is prepare at the present time . You know, hofthe worst. Syria is thepare at the present time . You know, hofthe worst. Syria is the key for the worst. Syria is the key player here. Yeah, syria has got iranian troops present there. It is actually on the border there. Now, suppose you armed now, suppose you get an armed incursion across golan, you know, from the east to the know, from from the east to the west, syria to america, west, from syria to america, then well, look , were not then says, well, look, were not going watch israel get swept going to watch israel get swept into the sea. They commit, they commit. Then straight away, whats turkey going do . And whats turkey going to do . And then russia has got then we know russia has got huge, elements support huge, huge elements of support and participation in syria. Now, and participation in syria. Now, i dont think china, who is the country most of us fear , would country most of us fear, would get involved at this stage. India for another sort of regional superpower, does have links but i links with israel, but i dont think involved. Links with israel, but i dont thin what involved. Links with israel, but i dont thin what you involved. Links with israel, but i dont thinwhat you could involved. Links with israel, but i dont thinwhat you could haveylved. Links with israel, but i dont thinwhat you could have ised. But what you could have is a russian backed iranian force being in a war with america. When that happens, then all bets are off because nato is involved. Where do we go from there . Where do we go from there . Meanwhile, as i mentioned earlier on underneath gaza, there is this thing , the gaza there is this thing, the gaza metro, than the entire metro, bigger than the entire London Underground system. If you honestly think that 19 and 20 year old reservists in the Israeli Defence force are to going be able to flush people out, vietnamese did out, what the vietnamese did with in those with a tiny army in those tunnels how Many Americans tunnels and how Many Americans died trying to actually get the people out from those tunnels. People out from those tunnels. Its going to be difficult. Its to going hard. Its going to to going be hard. Its going to be. Not that many be. And im not sure that many people are actually people in israel are actually prepared that prepared to take the cost that is going to happen. Well, as stephen suggesting, that could become a global that this could become a global conflict, claire, and i think thatis conflict, claire, and i think that is what everybody is concerned about. You can see from the reaction across the world with all of the protests that have taken across europe and into america in places like canada, you can see that the anger is bubbling up on on either side. And what is concerning is that you get these sort of pockets of demonstrated actions, anger at people not being listened to, and you wonder what thats hiding, being listened to, and you wonder what thats hiding , who wonder what thats hiding, who is beneath it and what is going to come out of it. And i think that we all need to be concerned with that protest dying in this country at the moment is perfectly legal to do so. I think we have to be very, very careful as to the individuals and their what they want to get out of this because not all of those who are protesting are going to have the care of people at heart. At heart. Oh, absolutely. And a huge concern west in terms concern across the west in terms of extremism. Weve seen of extremism. Weve seen violence already in in france, further radicalisation in of young muslims in this country. We and others, the islamist threat is always there bubbling, bubbung threat is always there bubbling, bubbling away. Our Security Services will be on high alert, i imagine, with all of this coming to our streets. Coming to our streets. Unfortunately, in terms of protests and rallies, yes, mostly peaceful as it is. But there is always that concern that this could bubble into terrorism here, not to fear monger, but it just that is just the case. Thats what where we are. Were going to come back to are. Were going to come back to this in just one moment. Youre watching and listening to gb news sunday with emily news sunday with me, emily carver. Coming on carver. Lots more coming up on todays the world todays show as the world watches the situation in israel and breath. And gaza with bated breath. Well be discussing what the possibility , as steven said, of possibility, as steven said, of this conflict spilling into a regional war, even a global war. All of that and more to come. Youre watching and listening to gb britains channel. Sunday mornings from 930 on news i welcome back to gb news sunday with me, emily carver on your tv, online and Digital Radio. Now as the war rages on in the gaza strip, questions are being raised on the destabilisation of the entire middle east with hezbollah in the north potentially dragging lebanon into the conflict. All eyes are on what iran will do in the coming weeks and how the west will react. In the last few minutes, the White House National security adviser, Jake Sullivan us outlets sullivan told us Media Outlets that a new weapons package for israel and ukraine will be significantly higher than the 2 billion. Its understood President Biden is to have extensive talks with the us congress this week to discuss the package that is required. So the package that is required. So joining me now is former senior military Intelligence Officer philip ingram. Now, thank you very much indeed for joining philip ingram. Now, thank you very much indeed forjoining me again. Philip its great to speak to you. Now weve seen clashes now at israels northern border with lebanon. Weve also seen that syria has accused israel of carrying out strikes against its airports. Israel has accused iran of trying to smuggle weapons through syria. Whats your. Take whats your. Take well, the biggest risk is this expansion of israels war with hamas. With hamas. Us and iran coming into it. The fact that the United States is deploying two carrier groups into the Eastern Mediterranean is a significant indicator. Theyre not doing that to support israel , to fight against support israel, to fight against hamas. Theyre doing that to try and other regional all and deter other regional all countries from becoming embroiled in what is going to be a very nasty war anyway. And of a very nasty war anyway. And of course, the uk has got a permanent Aircraft Carrier in that eastern part of the mediterranean with the uk bases in cyprus, which will prove invaluable not just for uk military but also for the us and other allies as we start to see them ramp up any deterrent capability that they want to deploy in the area. Deploy in the area. Now, philip, one concern is how this conflict plays out in this country and across the west. How concerned do you think we should be that we could see Terrorism Take place in this country as a result of this ongoing conflict . Im very concerned about it. We have already seen activities in france, and france has clamped down hard on those that are supporting not just hamas , which is illegal to hamas, which is illegal to support in the uk across the eu, in the United States, because it is a proscribed terrorist organisation. But france has organisation. But france has clamped down on support for the palestinians and the Palestinian People are the people who are suffering most here and in the in this country. Weve seen the demonstrations that are going on. Weve seen individuals who are are trying to be clever and suggest theyre anti israeli sentiment and support hamas and whats going on. And they dont realise by doing that theyre committing an offence under the terrorism act and that offence could see them locked away for up to 15 years and will certainly see them being put on terror watch so so people terror watch lists. So so people need very, careful need to be very, very careful about what theyre doing. Its right proper that the people right and proper that the people who going suffer most who are going to suffer most here are the Palestinian People, the who suffered last the people who suffered last weekend were the israeli people. Whenever hamas carried out its terror attack into israel. And terror attack into israel. And theyve stimulated this. And the trouble is what hamas is doing and they ruled by terror in in gaza. What hamas is doing is its putting its military capability or its put its military capability underneath hospitals, underneath mosques, in civilian housing, apartment blocks and everything else, knowing full well that as the israelis try to attack, to destroy hamas, civilians will get killed. And hamas want get killed. And hamas want Television Pictures and press pictures of women and children coming out of destroyed civilian apartment blocks. Well, philip , apartment blocks. Well, philip, against that backdrop, people have called on israel to show restraint. What does that mean . What does that mean . What does that mean . Well, its you know , its well, its you know, its words, simple words for people to put out, you know, is rail was attacked in a most horrendous way last weekend. And theyve got the right to defend themselves and theyve stated a clear aim to destroy hamas. They are already showing restraint by not firing artillery and rockets and other things randomly into into gaza in the way that hamas is firing it into into israel. And a lot of the Weapons Systems that israel use are accurate. And are israel use are accurate. And are can be easily targeted. However, can be easily targeted. However, whenever youre fighting into built up areas, there will be the inevitable civilian casualties, especially if the enemy that youre fighting has embedded itself within the civilian population and are trying to keep that civilian population around them to use as human shields. You know, its human shields. You know, its israel didnt need to give these corridors and warn people to get out. Its their responsibility out. Its their responsibility to do everything they can to reduce civilian casualties and not to deliberately target civilian infrastructure, because its civilian infrastructure. Its civilian infrastructure. But they can target civilian infrastructure if it is being used for military purposes. And this is where hamas, you know, are the ones that are setting the conditions for civilians to be killed because israel is going to have to target them wherever they are. Wherever they are. Yes, its hard to hard to understate. Well, its hard to imagine what its like in gaza. The humanity crisis that is unfolding. Its truly tragic. I just want to get a quick thought from you on russia in all of this. The russias un ambassador calling for a ceasefire in the conflict. What whats that all about . Well you know, if you look at this from a global perspective, whos the one Global Leader who has come off the headlines and its Vladimir Putin and russia has got a very close link into iran. Theyre relying on iran for the shahed 106 and 131 drones for them to attack into ukraine. And theyve been trying to get other ammunition , arms and other ammunition, arms and support from iran as well. If they can get iran to try and distract the United States, the uk and other countries from supporting ukraine and providing military materiel into yet another conflict, russia is winning out of this. I personally think that there is, you know, a much larger set of circumstances being deliberately focussed in a way that include russia, iran and, you know, lebanese and Lebanese Hezbollah as well as hamas. There is the real potential for there have been a bigger plan here to try and distract from what is going on inside, inside ukraine. I can smell Vladimir Putins fingerprints all over this. Yes. Thank you very much indeed for your time. Philip ingram there. Thank you. Former senior military Intelligence Officer, hugely, hugely knowledgeable. Lets bring in my knowledgeable. Lets bring in my panel knowledgeable. Lets bring in my panel, Claire Pearsall and Stephen Pound, who are still with me. Stephen, on that russia and its influence on this conflict very much in putins inner interests. I dont actually buy that because you dont know. And the reason why is that this particular operation has been in preparation for many , many preparation for many, many months. And i just dont months. Yeah. And i just dont think the timelines work out. Think the timelines work out. They just dont to make they just dont seem to make sense me. I dont sense to me. I just dont actually that happening. But actually see that happening. But i know, what is much i think, you know, what is much more worrying is the lack. But is it not beneficial that there is it not beneficial that there is massive is this now, this massive distraction in the International Community . Whether you know, community . But whether you know, vladimir in this sort of Vladimir Putin in this sort of evil doctor, neo type figure, stroke captain, stroke in a burmese captain, what do is, you know, what i will do is, you know, pump up the iranians, the iranians to pump up hezbollah and hamas. I just dont see it. But what no, but i mean, but look what no, but i mean, now with the reaction. Response, course. With the response, of course. With the response, of course. You know, with the response, of course. Thinking. You know, with the response, of course. Thinking christmas| know, with the response, of course. Thinking christmas hasyw, with the response, of course. Thinking christmas has come hes thinking christmas has come early. But look, what is early. But but look, what is fascinating about and also fascinating about this and also deeply the complete fascinating about this and also deeply lack the complete fascinating about this and also deeply lack of the complete fascinating about this and also deeply lack of intelligence. Te and utter lack of intelligence. The shin bet and the Israeli Intelligence people had a worldwide reputation. They didnt see this coming. The french were tapping the phone of the murderer, the man who attacked the school the other day. Yet they did nothing day. And yet they did nothing about now, say what you will about it. Now, say what you will about it. Now, say what you will about actually about m15, but we do actually have very sophisticated have a very sophisticated Intelligence Service within this country. And i think that when you talk to and you were absolutely right actually absolutely right to actually highlight of highlight the possibility of some domestic some sort of domestic retaliation or domestic activity, im very fearful of that. Yeah, im fearful of that. Well, yeah, im fearful of that. Well, yeah, im fearful of that think that. But i think our Intelligence Services are actually pretty much than actually pretty much better than the french at this particular time. Think that we are time. And i think that we are actually on top of that situation. I see it situation. I dont see it happening. I think therell be the odd person hysterical lunatic, will actually make an attack but by and attack somewhere. But by and large, i think our people are pretty much on top. Well lets lets hope not. Lets hope hope not. Now, claire, on the idea of this failure of intelligence on israels part. Now there were some reports that egypt had given israel prior warning that hamas was planning this. The hamas was planning this. The israels National Security advisor said absolutely not. Thatis advisor said absolutely not. That is fake news, essentially. It is still, though , hard to it is still, though, hard to grasp how how israel did not know that this was building up and thats the most concerning factor , is that the israelis factor, is that the israelis normally have the best Security System going. They are experts in this area. Theyve had to be and their Intelligence Services are second to none. So to have a catastrophic failure like this, you have to wonder why, how that has been allowed to happen. And who is responsible. I i dont believe i think egypt are trying to muddy the waters. And i would suggest that we dont need to necessarily take their word as such. But i do think there is an awful lot for the Israeli Government and the Security Services over there to answer to because if you cant spot this kind of thing coming, what else have you missed . And its always have you missed . And its always those things, the unintended consequences. Who has come into your country . Who has gone out of your country . What is going on on the periphery that you perhaps havent picked up the chatter , for is what chatter for, for which is what were about when youre were worried about when youre looking border with looking at the border with syria, got lebanon and syria, youve got lebanon and youve got some really, really noisy neighbours. If you are not picking up that chatter, then i think that youre at real risk. Well, thank very yes. Well, thank you very much indeed your input. Much indeed for your input. Claire and stephen Claire Pearsall and Stephen Pound, youre watching and listening to gb news sunday with me, emily carver. Weve got lots listening to gb news sunday with me, ecoming rver. Weve got lots listening to gb news sunday with me, ecoming up, weve got lots listening to gb news sunday with me, ecoming up, soeve got lots listening to gb news sunday with me, ecoming up, soev stay lots more coming up, so do stay tuned. Be going live to tuned. Well be going live to our Political Correspondent, Katherine Forster, whos the Katherine Forster, whos at the vigil victims of the vigil for the victims of the horrific attack in horrific terrorist attack in israel. Well be going to that in just one moment. But lets get the news with elizabeth. Get the news with elizabeth. Good afternoon. Im elizabeth good afternoon. Im Elizabeth Callahan in the newsroom. Sirens and rockets are being heard over the gaza skyline when it comes as hospitals are ovennhelmed with the wounded as well as those seeking refuge. The united those seeking refuge. The united nafions those seeking refuge. The United Nations are warning hospitals in gaza could run out of fuel and suppues gaza could run out of fuel and supplies within the next two days. The Israeli Military says its allowing safe evacuate missions for the people in northern gaza. Prime minister northern gaza. Prime minister Benjamin Netanyahu has convened his israeli Emergency Council for the first time in a show of unity. And to prepare what hes unity. And to prepare what hes described as demolish hamas in gaza. There are reports from the Israeli Defence force saying hamas is stopping people from leaving and are currently holding 120 civilians hostage. It comes as the leader of the terrorist organisation has met with irans foreign minister in qatar , where they agreed to qatar, where they agreed to continue cooperation. Well, a spokesperson for the idf has told gb news its continuing to let people in northern gaza move from their homes to safety. From their homes to safety. Well, for you , government well, for you, government flights carrying britons has left israel with two more expected to leave later today. Expected to leave later today. The Foreign Office is telling british nationals in gaza to be ready in case the rafah Border Crossing is opened. Its currently the only route out of the territory foreign secretary James Cleverly told gb news the uk government are doing everything they can to get british nationals trapped in gaza. A safe passage out. We have been liaising very, very closely with the Israeli Government, with the Egyptian Government, with the Egyptian Government and we know that there have been talks to try and reopen the rafah crossing. Now, that is the Border Crossing between Southern Gaza and egypt at the moment. That is the only credible exit route from people from gaza. We will continue to work to try and get that crossing reopened, although at the moment it is not open and that is, of course, making humanitarian and consular support into gaza incredibly difficult. Difficult. The mother in law of scotlands first minister said her goodbyes in a phone call sparked by a false alarm last night. She called humza yousaf yousef and his wife after a neighbour told them they had to evacuate the residents they were staying in in gaza because it was due to be hit by a missile. The first minister said hearing her believe she was going to die was a horrific experience. Was a horrific experience. However, the alert was a false alarm. He says he will back alarm. He says he will back a potential uk government scheme to accept israeli and palestinians seeking to flee the violence. The metropolitan violence. The metropolitan police says its urgently reviewing footage and other material posted online following the pro palestinian protest in Central London yesterday. The force says it has evidence of criminal offences being committed and officers are working to identify and arrest those responsible for the demonstration was mainly peaceful without major issues, but 15 people were arrested as pockets of disorder broke out later in the evening. You can later in the evening. You can get more on all of those stories by visiting our website at gb news. Com by visiting our website at gbnews. Com. Gbnews. Com. Thanks, elizabeth. Now weve got lots more coming up on the show , so stay tuned. Well be show, so stay tuned. Well be going live to a vigil in remembrance of the 1200 israelis who lost their lives in the horrific act of terror perpetrated by hamas last week. Before that, lets take a look at the weather with jonathan. Hello there. Im jonathan vautrey, who of your latest gb news Weather Forecast provided by the met office. There is by the met office. There is a fine couple of days ahead for many of us and theres a lot of nice around nice conditions around throughout this throughout the rest of this afternoon throughout the rest of this afte showers do have across the showers we do have across northern will easing northern scotland will be easing back might see some back a touch might see some isolated and fog patches isolated mist and fog patches forming overnight as well. And temperatures will certainly be dropping us once dropping off many of us once again. Another night again. Another chilly night on the to mid single the cards, low to mid single figures of our towns figures in many of our towns and cities. But a touch of frost is cities. But a touch of frost is certainly possible in some rural areas you may well areas as well. So you may well need layers you need some extra layers as you start off the on monday start off the day on monday morning , well be a touch more morning, well be a touch more cloud around on monday compared to throughout to what we have seen throughout this bit this weekend. So skies a bit milkier and sunshine hazier in places , but some sunshine trying places, but some sunshine trying to poke its way through and still largely dry for most of us. Fringing into us. Showers just fringing into the of the very far south east of england. See some england. Might still see some across scotland as england. Might still see some acros where scotland as england. Might still see some acros where willotland as england. Might still see some acros where will be|nd as england. Might still see some acros where will be a i as well, where it will be a breezier the winds also breezier day. The winds also strengthening southwest strengthening across southwest england. Temperatures up by a degree or so in few places. Degree or so in a few places. Generally around 11 to 13 c. As this rain the southwest, this rain in the southwest, though signal things to though, is a signal of things to come. Area of pressure come. This area of low pressure will gradually its come. This area of low pressure will northwardlly its come. This area of low pressure will northward as its come. This area of low pressure will northward as we its come. This area of low pressure will northward as we headits way northward as we head throughout of week. Throughout the rest of the week. High pressure on tuesday, though, far though, clinging on to the far north east after north east of scotland after a pretty chilly start, seeing a decent amount sunshine decent amount of sunshine throughout the day. Elsewhere, this of cloud will be this shield of cloud will be pushing its way as we pushing its way northwards as we start see gales developing start to see gales developing across wales and across parts of wales and southwest england. This rain southwest england. And this rain will its will then start spreading its way we head way northwards as we head throughout wednesday and thursday, perhaps very heavy in places. Thats all for now. Bye bye. Bye. Join us every night on gb news at 11 pm. For headliners, which is three top comedians going the next days going through the next days news which is exactly news stories, which is exactly what you need, because when the establishment has gone crazy, you craziness to make you need some craziness to make sense of it. Headliners you dont have to bother reading the newspaper. Bother reading the newspaper. Covered you weve got it covered for you every night at 11 pm. And repeated every morning at 5 am. 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So joining me now is gb news Political Correspondent Katherine Forster, who i believe is there for us. Catherine can you tell me what is going on . Whats the scene . So a very whats the scene . So a very sombre mood here in Parliament Square this afternoon. Square this afternoon. Soon there is a vigil beginning at 3 00 this afternoon to remember. The 1200 innocent to remember. The 1200 innocent israeli people , all who were israeli people, all who were massacred in that horrific terrorist attack by hamas last saturday, which has precipitated and horrific events throughout the middle east. There will be prayers there will be a candlelit vigil. There will be speeches from a gentleman whose elderly parents are currently being held hostage in gaza. And being held hostage in gaza. And as i think you can see, lots of posters of the 120 or so israelis who were taken by the Hamas Terrorists, kidnapped and taken into gaza , who knows taken into gaza, who knows where . Who knows how many of them are alive and how many of them are alive and how many of them will ultimately be rescued looking behind me, im not going to dwell on it now. Its incredibly upsetting. But the incredibly upsetting. But the pictures range from everything from nine month old babies , two from nine month old babies, two year old boys with red hair, elderly people, whole family is ranging in age from about 3 to 65, just ordinary people who are going about their lives. Last going about their lives. Last saturday morning. We know, dont saturday morning. We know, dont we . There were 85 year old grandmother who were ripped out of their beds in their nightgowns , little children and nightgowns, little children and taken into gaza and also , of taken into gaza and also, of course, every day were hearing more horrific stories emerge, the personal stories behind these numbers on the front page of the observer today, theres the story of the boy who survived. He survived only because his mother formed a human shield and she protected him. He is alive. She is not, him. He is alive. She is not, nor is his father. He waited seven hours for rescue. So a really reflective mood here today. A very different tone from that yesterday where we saw with the big march. Its a beautiful blue sky day. The beautiful blue sky day. The organisers i was talking to a little bit earlier, the daughter was telling me that friends she has at university in israel , has at university in israel, they have been called up. They have to leave their studies, leave their degrees and go and fight. Theyll be going into gaza. Who knows what they will encounter. But a horror that began last saturday and shows no sign of ending. Thank you, catherine. I think we can all hear the emotion in your voice. A truly sombre moment. Thank you very much for your time, gb news Political Correspondent Katherine Forster there from westminster. Now joining me is political commentator yosef david. Thank you very much for joining me. Youve just heard from catherine there, who is in westminster for this vigil to remember the lives of those israelis that have lost their lives. And also posters their lives. And also posters there of those who have been kidnapped. Kidnapped. Yes , these kind of vigils yes, these kind of vigils with any kind of atrocity are incredibly important to allow a cathartic outlet of grief with people who share grief. So people will be linking arms. Theyll be crying about the dead, praying for for the the dead, praying for for the the hostages that have savagely been taken, but also for spending a moment. Been taken, but also for spending a moment. Just to mark spending a moment. Just to mark the barbarity that has taken place. Theres also another service that another function that these vigils hold. And ive that these vigils hold. And ive been speaking to members of the Jewish Community and theyve said that they are looking for proof that jewish people can talk about israel and can mark israeli tragedies in their capital city in a safe way. Capital city in a safe way. Yes, i can see that its well, it could could be seen also as a as a moment of defiance as well. Weve heard from jewish schools, jewish places of worship, fears over security. Many jewish people feel uncomfortable to show their religious identity on the streets. In some of our cities. It really is quite tragic. And it really is quite tragic. And it makes it makes me and it makes a lot of us very angry indeed to think that jewish people may not feel safe in this country. Is not only a way country. This is not only a way of remembering those lives that have been lost tragically, but as i said , a moment of defiance, as i said, a moment of defiance, maybe. Maybe. Absolutely. The people that absolutely. The people that ive been speaking to in the Jewish Community have said to me, i was born in this country. This is my country. I dont know another country. I love my country. And im proud of it. But the scenes that we have seen over the past week in our cities of thousands of people marching, some of whom were celebrating the hamas barbarity must make people feel afraid. And i myself am feeling concerned with what ive seen. This conflict feels different. Yes , it does. Well, thank you yes, it does. Well, thank you very much indeed for your time. Political commentator yosef david. Thank you very much. Well be keeping an eye on whats going on at that vigil and i hope as everyone else that it remains as peaceful, such a sombre, sombre mood there from Katherine Forster our Political Correspondent. Now weve got lots more coming up on todays show. This week marked world show. This week marked World Mental Health day. Now im going to be talking to a former made in Chelsea Julius cowdrey. In chelsea star julius cowdrey. This is a change of mood and former cowdrey former cricketer Fabian Cowdrey about the importance of psychological and emotional well being. Fonnard to well being. Looking fonnard to that. Weve got all of that and more to come. Im emily carver. Youre watching and listening to gb britains gb news, britains gb news the peoples. Channel gb news the peoples. Channel welcome back to gb news sunday with me, emily carver. Sunday with me, emily carver. Im on your tv, online and Digital Radio now this week marked World Mental Health day as a day to talk about Mental Health and spread awareness. This theme was mental this year, the theme was Mental Health is a universal human right with numerous ambassadors and advocates making the case for a positive development in everyones Mental Health. So joining me now, im excited to say is julius cowdrey. Hes say is julius cowdrey. Hes a former made in chelsea star and certified mindset coach safe space. And Fabian Cowdrey , space. And Fabian Cowdrey, former cricketer and master certified life coach, too, at safe space. Thank you very much indeed for your time. Looking great in your matching hoodies. Fantastic who should i start with . Julius now, most people watching will know you watching at home will know you from chelsea. Can you from made in chelsea. Can you explain how Mental Health came into that experience . I can imagine it might quite imagine it might have been quite daunting of all the daunting in terms of all the very instant feedback you probably got after every episode. Absolutely hard to. You can never really prepare for Something Like that. I mean, i went, i went i used to be a singer songwriter. For me, i just needed a platform to get my music out. And the opportunity and and i had the opportunity and i thought, just to take thought, im just going to take it. Something like thought, im just going to take it. Show Something Like thought, im just going to take it. Show s mean,1g like thought, im just going to take it. Show s mean, twitter that show comes i mean, twitter was at the time with was rife at the time with trolls. F trolls. Lot of theres theres a lot of theres a lot of online stuff you had to take on. And also very strange take on. watching 3 very strange take on. watching yourselfvery strange take on. watching yourself backstrange take on. watching yourself back and ge is watching yourself back and its edited version its its an edited version and its and thing to its an edited version and its and its thing to its an edited version and its and its the thing to its an edited version and its and its the reason thing to its an edited version and its and its the reason i. Hing to its an edited version and its and its the reason i left to its an edited version and its and its the reason i left for take. Its the reason i left for a little bit because i guess i didnt really have the right the tools to really my own tools to really work on my own and Mental Health during it because its weird thing because its such a weird thing to let me just viewers let me just remind viewers what if they what maiden chelsea is. If they havent watched it. Its a reality. Lots of young, reality show. Lots of young, beautiful People Living in chelsea and going out and their relationships are sort of played out for the world to see. So as you can imagine, its probably quite stressful. Quite stressful. Its very stressful. Look, its behind me now. Its something i left last year so we can on safe space. Its can focus on safe space. Its very different to the life im living right now. Its sort of i was a bit a young party boy was a bit of a young party boy and something quite fun was a bit of a young party boy and music something quite fun was a bit of a young party boy and music and mething quite fun was a bit of a young party boy and music and thathing quite fun was a bit of a young party boy and music and that was quite fun was a bit of a young party boy and music and that was exciting] and music and that was exciting. But for me now all about but for me now its all about safe its about coaching, safe space. Its about coaching, its people. Safe space. Its about coaching, its they people. Safe space. Its about coaching, its they just people. Safe space. Its about coaching, its they just they people. Safe space. Its about coaching, its they just they just people. Safe space. Its about coaching, its they just they just donte. And they just they just dont work in with other, work in line with each other, you mainly chelsea you know, mainly chelsea is great exciting , but great fun and its exciting, but its more about conflict and things like that. Im more about resolution now and, and working and people become the and helping people become the best versions that they can possibly come on what well, well come to on what that looks and that what that looks like and what sort of Mental Health troubles experiencing what sort of Mental Health trothees experiencing what sort of Mental Health trothe moment. Experiencing what sort of Mental Health trothe moment. Because riencing what sort of Mental Health trothe moment. Because we cing what sort of Mental Health trothe moment. Because we know at the moment. Because we know theres massive increase. Theres been a massive increase. Yes. Since the yes. Particularly since the pandemic, actually. But fabian, you a fantastic cricketer. You were a fantastic cricketer. You come from a cricketing family now. Your Mental Health was affected, was not, when was affected, was it not, when you took a backseat that . You took a backseat with that . Definitely. And during as oh, definitely. And during as well, the transition is well, i think the transition is very athletes very difficult for athletes generally. I spent six years generally. I spent six years playing professional cricket. I remember my first game walking out new zealand on a out in front of new zealand on a touring game and was clapped touring game and i was clapped all to the wicket all the way to the wicket because granddad and because of dad and granddad and my played kent for my uncle who played kent for kent respectively for kent and respectively for england and they were england as well. And they were clapping their legacy, not mine. So there that so naturally there was that expectation pressure. Expectation and pressure. Been so daunting. I must have been so daunting. I must have been so daunting. Time was it was at the time it was daunting. And then i think i created a dangerous attachment to performance sport, whereas to performance in sport, whereas if i performed, would feel if i performed, i would feel high and mighty. And if i didnt perform, i would be left sort of crying even up to crying in my bedroom, even up to the sort of 18, 19. And the age of sort of 18, 19. And i didnt really have the toolkit, as julius mentioned, manage didnt really have the toolkit, as jlatis mentioned, manage didnt really have the toolkit, as jlat the entioned, manage didnt really have the toolkit, as jlat the time. Led, manage didnt really have the toolkit, as jlat the time. There manage didnt really have the toolkit, as jlat the time. There was1age didnt really have the toolkit, as jlat the time. There was ane that at the time. There was an extensive that at the time. There was an extensibut leaving sport was family, but leaving sport was one of the most daunting journeys because was my full journeys because it was my full purpose, my identity and purpose, it was my identity and trying find my feet. After trying to find my feet. After that so that became the next step. S0 eventually i became a coach because i wanted to help people overcome struggles overcome their struggles a little quicker than i did. Little bit quicker than i did. And led us to group coaching. And it led us to group coaching. And it led us to group coaching. And to safe space, and now and now to safe space, our platform. Our online platform. Where do fantastic. Julius, where do you the line be you think the line should be when we talk about when it comes to we talk about male quite lot male Mental Health quite a lot on this show because its often its overlooked and where its often overlooked and where do you think that line is between stiff upper lip taking control of your emotions and letting things bounce off you with resilience and then opening up and being a bit emotional . Up and being a bit emotional . Well, what do you think is best for people . Does it depend on the individual . Well, think i think its a well, i think i think its a really question because, really good question because, i mean, to an all really good question because, i mearschool to an all really good question because, i mearschool and, to an all really good question because, i mearschool and, you to an all really good question because, i mearschool and, you know,| all really good question because, i mearschool and, you know, even boys school and, you know, even we were if we felt discouraged to talk to be emotional to open up i think men are and i think they are i think theres they still are i think theres a happy medium between the two because i if sit too because i think if you sit too much the emotion, emotional much in the emotion, emotional place dont the place and you dont go the right, with right, lets deal with the attitude. Progressive. Attitude. The progressive. What can think that can we do with it . I think that you fall and just sit you can fall and just and sit with your emotions too much. So i we became i think if thats why we became coaches, love help our coaches, we to love help our clients progressively work on themselves take action. And themselves and take action. And thats thats why we love coaching. So if can leave coaching. So if you can leave with emotions and you can with your emotions and you can talk it, reason why talk about it, the reason why men, or the men, men are struggling or the reason suicide rate is reason why the suicide rate is going men, especially in going up in men, especially in this because men this country, is because men dont feel so comfortable talking and if we can give men more of a safe space to be able to talk about their stuff , then to talk about their stuff, then i think that stat wont continue increasing and we did a cycle this year. We did a 24 hour cycle for mens for a suicidal prevention that was difficult i can imagine. Can imagine. Yeah we got more difficult than cricket. Yes. Yeah much more difficult. Youve got to rest after a few hours in cricket. Yeah. We had to have a lot of tea break, a lot of vaseline, but we wont go too much further. Oh, god. But. But wont go too much further. Oh, god. But. But no, no wont go too much further. Oh, god. But. But no, no jokes god. But. But no, no jokes aside, we look, we. We want to help people or men and women and, and all. All genders and to, to work on themselves and become better. Better and that starts with talking. That starts to opening up. Yeah because my experience, because from my experience, we all have an experience of Mental Health in one or Mental Health in one way or another, whether little another, whether its a little bit anxiety or just feeling bit of anxiety or just feeling down major down or whether its major mental issues and talking Mental Health issues and talking can so but having can get you so far. But having the be resilient to and the tools to be resilient to and finding a path out of whatever situation you are in, because often times youre feeling down, youre anxious because youre feeling anxious because things actually there and things are actually there and theyre real and theyre making you way. Coming you feel that way. So coming up with of , of, of thinking you feel that way. So coming up with of, of, of thinking in with ways of, of, of thinking in a in a positive way, yeah. And its liberating when you begin the good begin to normalise the good and the mean, people, we the bad. I mean, as people, we lean confidence and the lean into the confidence and the happiness when were feeling lean into the confidence and the happirbut when were feeling lean into the confidence and the happirbut wheweere feeling lean into the confidence and the happirbut whewe have eeling lean into the confidence and the happirbut whewe have this1g lean into the confidence and the happirbut whewe have this sort great. But we, we have this sort of illusion around the negative emotions. And feel anxiety emotions. And if we feel anxiety or we feel sad about something, its almost lets bury it as opposed to lets, lets really lean into it and accept it and find ways to fonnard, which find ways to move fonnard, which is safe space was created in is why safe space was created in so provide the tool so many ways to provide the tool kit facets of kit across all facets of self development. So on the platform have coaches are platform we have coaches who are very , very specialised across very, very specialised across their in mind, body, their area in mind, body, spirituality , business and spirituality, business and relationships and we provide an array of seminars every single month. And our big mission month. And our big Mission Statement is to make world class coaching accessible for all and can people just find you online just very quickly, safe space, global dot co. Uk. We dont want we found there was a big problem quite early that it seems like its a privilege it is a privilege to work with a coach, a therapist, a counsellor. A counsellor. Its expensive, but you want to available, available to make it available, available to make it available, available to. To everyone. Should the ability. Fantastic. Thank you so much fantastic. Thank you so much for were to forjoining me. Were going to have there. But that have to wrap up there. But that was former was julius cowdrey, former made in certified in chelsea star certified mindset safe and mindset coach at safe space and his Fabian Cowdrey, his brother Fabian Cowdrey, former and also former cricketer and also a certified life coach at safe space. Now, thank you very much indeed for watching. Youve been watching to gb watching and listening to gb news sunday with me, emily carver. You for carver. Thank you so much for joining afternoon. Dont joining me this afternoon. Dont go anywhere, though, because nana before she nana is up next. But before she comes along, lets take a look at with jonathan. In at the weather with jonathan. In hello there. Im jonathan vautrey. Who of your latest gb vautrey. Who of your latest gb news Weather Forecast provided by the met office. There is a fine couple of days ahead for many of us and theres a lot of nice conditions around throughout the rest of this afternoon as well. Afternoon and evening as well. The have across the showers we do have across northern scotland will be easing back see back a touch might see some isolated fog patches isolated mist and fog patches forming well. And forming overnight as well. And temperatures will certainly be dropping once dropping off for many of us once again. Another chilly night on the , to single the cards, low to mid single figures in many of our towns and cities, a touch of frost is cities, but a touch of frost is certainly possible in rural certainly possible in some rural areas you may well areas as well. So you may well need extra layers as you need some extra layers as you start off the day on monday morning, well be a touch more cloud around compared cloud around on monday compared to seen throughout to what we have seen throughout this. So a this weekend. So skies a bit milkier sunshine hazier in milkier and sunshine hazier in places, but some sunshine trying to poke its way through and still for most of still largely dry for most of us, showers just into us, showers just fringing into the south east the very far south east of england. Some england. Might still see some across northern as across northern scotland as well, be well, where it will be a breezier day the also breezier day. The winds also strengthening southwest strengthening across southwest england. Temperatures up by a degree places, degree or so in a few places, generally around 11 to 13 c. This rain in the southwest, though, is a signal of things to come. Of low pressure come. This area of low pressure will gradually pushing its will be gradually pushing its way northwards as head way northwards as we head throughout way northwards as we head throu pressure way northwards as we head throupressure on tuesday, High Pressure on tuesday, though, far though, clinging on to the far north east of scotland after a pretty chilly start, seeing a decent sunshine decent amount of sunshine throughout elsewhere throughout the day. Elsewhere this will be this shield of cloud will be pushing way northwards pushing its way northwards as we start developing start to see gales developing across parts wales and across parts of wales and southwest england this southwest england and this rain will spreading will then start spreading its way northwards as head way northwards as we head throughout wednesday and thursday, perhaps very heavy in places. Thats all for bye hello good afternoon and welcome to gb news on tv, online and on Digital Radio. Its just coming up to 3 00. Im nana akua and for the next few hours me and my panel will be taking on some of the big topics that are hitting the headunes big topics that are hitting the headlines show headlines right now. This show is opinion. Its is all about opinion. Its mine, its theirs. Of course, its yours. And of course, its yours. Well debating, discussing , well be debating, discussing, and will disagree. And at times we will disagree. But one be cancelled. But no one will be cancelled. So joining me in the next houris so joining me in the next hour is broadcaster and journalist danny kelly and also broadcaster and author christine hamilton. Hamilton. And in a few moments, well be going head to head in a clash of with political of minds with political commentator evans. Commentator suzanne evans. Also former editor of the labourlist, peter edwards. But labourlist, peter edwards. But before started, lets get before we get started, lets get your News Headlines. Good afternoon. Its 3 00. Im Elizabeth Callahan in the newsroom. United callahan in the newsroom. United nafions callahan in the newsroom. United nations are warning hospitals in gaza that they could run out of fuel and supplies within the next two days as hospitals have been ovennhelmed with the wounded as well as those seeking refuge. Prime minister benjamin refuge. Prime minister Benjamin Netanyahu , who has convened his netanyahu, who has convened his israeli Emergency Council for the first time in