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Been continuing all day. And in addition to that, Israeli Soldiers have been clearing the kfar aza kibbutz, one of the hardest hit areas of hamas attacks in the south. Men, women in and children are believed to have been killed at the kibbutz. And israeli troops are going in there this evening, have had to retrieve the bodies. It was retrieve the bodies. It was after hamas had breached the border from gaza. Well the idf have this evening confirmed their soldiers have also been responding to incoming fire from syria with artillery and mortar shelling. They have returned shelling. They have returned fire. Gb News Reporter Charlie Peters is in tel aviv for us and he spoke to one survivor of the karmir kibbutz, which is between ashkelon in the south and gaza. Heres what she had to say. Heres what she had to say. Did you see anything in the street when you drove through . Did you bodies and. Did you see bodies and. Did you see bodies and. Yeah , mostly bodies. Some of yeah, mostly bodies. Some of them were burned. So we didnt recognise people. Some of them were terrorists bodies. Later were terrorists bodies. Later on, i found out that i have a few of my friends in the party in the rave that was raging at that morning. Some of them were that morning. Some of them were kidnapped, some of them were raped and taken under hostage to the gaza strip. It was really horrible. Horrible. Kibbutz attack survivor Danielle Biton speaking there. Now in other news today, and in fact, this evening, all flights currently suspended in and out of Luton Airport after a fire broke out in one of its car parks. Its Emergency Services parks. Its Emergency Services are on the scene and parked cars can be clearly seen completely engulfed in flames, burning on the top floor of the terminal. Two car park. People are being urged to stay away and not to travel to the airport until further notice. Luton airport closed tonight. And lastly, the closed tonight. And lastly, the uk and ireland have been confirmed as hosts for euro 2028. The Prime Minister joined the england squad earlier on today to celebrate the moment the joint bid was the only one remaining following turkeys withdrawal to focus on a joint bid with italy. Theyre going to go for euros in 2032. Six of the venues are in england with one each from northern ireland. The repubuc each from northern ireland. The republic of ireland, scotland and wales. As the bid is and wales. As the bid is expected to generate around £26 billion. And its seen as vital for uefas Financial Recovery post covid as well. Gb news post covid as well. Gb news across the uk on tv, in your car, on Digital Radio and on your Smart Speaker by saying play your Smart Speaker by saying play gb news this is britains news channel. News channel. Hello and welcome to headliners, the best paper preview show on tv. I am simon evans joining me tonight. We have josh howie and paul cox. Good evening, gentlemen. Good good evening, gentlemen. Good evening, simon. Excellent. Were three bespectacled gents. We are three bespectacled gents. We are very serious. It must mean were very serious. It must mean were very clever. The news is not going evade this evening. Going to evade us this evening. Is your glasses both look is it your glasses both look a bit more serious than mine. Yeah. Yeah. Look like the two running you look like the two running a little bit later. So lets take a look at those front pages through our six lenses of scrutiny. The daily well scrutiny. The daily mail. Well its grim. Of course, this was a holocaust , its grim. Of course, this was a holocaust, pure and simple. The guardian , israeli troops mass on guardian, israeli troops mass on gaza border as hamas attack death toll hits 1000. The telegraph hamas massacres , telegraph hamas massacres, babies and children. The times. Babies and children. The times. Hamas cuts the throat. They cut the throats of babies in massacre. The metro. 40 babies murdered by hamas and the daily star. As always, managing to avoid the gloom. Get a shroom fungi will cure worlds diseases. Those were your front pages. Diseases. Those were your front pages. So lets start with the pages. So lets start with the front of the mail. Josh yeah, one of the most, most surreal all contrasts stories i think ive ever seen. Stories i think ive ever seen. You have holly willoughby, who is leaving this morning, and then you have 40 children shot dead. Then you have 40 children shot dead. This was a holocaust, pure dead. This was a holocaust, pure and simple. Normally i cant stand people evoking the holocaust because the only thing that should be evoked or compared to the holocaust is the holocaust. But this is these are dead jews killed in the most inhumane way. Reports of decapitate babies. I mean, its unbelievable to even say that aloud. How how, you know, without wanting to sort of sound like, well, you dont know , but how well, you dont know, but how fully verified is this now . Fully verified is this now . Because it came out pretty raw, didnt it . Yeah, been its been yeah, its been its been verified. More and more papers verified. More and more papers are coming theyve theyve are coming and theyve theyve been taking their photos and stuff. The crazy stuff. This is the crazy thing is cops and so on. Is hamas is cops and so on. Yeah. Hamas is has filmed a lot of this footage is putting it out line with those warnings going out with my kids go to a Jewish School and there are warnings going around from the school sure your school saying make sure your kids on social media kids are not on social media because of their because this is part of their tactics, is to terrify a generation and this quote generation and this this quote here, the holocaust, pure and simple. This is from a the grants 90 old grants. His 90 year old grandmother was dragged into living room and shot twice in the head. You have other Holocaust Survivors who have been kidnapped and taken into israel. I mean, its so insane to say this stuff aloud. Ive been sort of fighting it online and through the day, but to say it , its erupted. It, its erupted. It feels as if its erupted out of nowhere. And the odd thing is, it seems as if its erupted out of nowhere in israels like world, as well as if they had no suspicion of people cant fathom this level of cruelty and evil in humanity. And i think i wrote a thing about it, but i think its hard for people to process that. And i seen people all online trying to sort of deny it or do this whataboutery and i want but i for me ive just lost all my at the moment im just im going. It has been extraordinary. So youve seen it as well, paul . You know, some of the moral equivalence thats been drawn, some of the i suppose these people would see it as contextualised, but it just seems extraordinarily we sort of emote morally bankrupt as much as anything. As anything. Its absolutely harrowing, isnt it . Im someone who spent the majority of my life as a bystander on this issue. Its something grew up with. Something i grew up with. On the television. It was on the television. I didnt grow an environment didnt grow up in an environment where i knew, particularly any jewish muslim jewish or palestinian or muslim people. Jewish or palestinian or muslim peoand know you , josh, and and now i know you, josh, and you its a privilege you know, its a privilege actually. And, know, i think actually. And, you know, i think you view in isolation. Now, spoken people on now, ive spoken to people on both this, and both sides of this, and particularly on the hamas side , particularly on the hamas side, youre told you cant look at in isolation. Isolation. Youve to look at the youve got to look at the history of it. But no, absolutely. You must at absolutely. You must look at this particular instance in isolation, the depravity and just how the savagery , how just how the savagery, how disgusting it was, has is to be taken very, very seriously. Taken very, very seriously. Now, what do you do . Now, what do you do . Because i think ultimately we all want peace. All want peace. But, you know, you cant let it go. No. So this is just perpetual motion. I mean, it does seem to me that the most obvious or the most plausible explanation is that external actors probably iran. I mean, we know iran are involved external actors regard gaza and lives as as grass. Well, theyre quite as grass. Well, theyre quite happy to sacrifice hamas do theyve theyve hidden for years i theyve hidden their weapons. Theyve hidden their weapons. Theyve hidden their weapons. Theyve shot from schools and almost, you know, they will happily see that mown down. And because they know it will grow again, more virulent in the again, even more virulent in the in the fertiliser that will you know, and how you escape that cycle at this point you dont know. But but it cant be by saying well on the on the one hand you know its on the front page of the guardian as well paul it is so there is a there is a difference between the two stories on the front. And i think id like to ask josh if he would want to talk about this at this. Well, just because hes going to educate rather than me was to educate me rather than me was not that i just wanted to we were commenting before were just commenting before about contrast of here, about just the contrast of here, how are going how the newspapers are going with just the brutality and with the just the brutality and the, you know , just the madness. The, you know, just the madness. Whats happened that the travesty, the tragedy, the, you know, anyway, this is the guardian has gone. Israeli troops massed on gaza border as hamas attack death toll hits 1000. So because of this kibbutz where they finally got into theres about 100, by the way, this kibbutz was like famously like a peace loving kibbutz, this kibbutz was like famously like proace loving kibbutz, this kibbutz was like famously like pro ,ice loving kibbutz, this kibbutz was like famously like pro , pro peaceibbutz, this kibbutz was like famously like pro , pro peace andtz, very pro, pro peace and initiatives and whatnot. And a hundred thats10 of initiatives and whatnot. And a hundred thats 10 of their population dead. So a thousand people, more than a thousand people. But the point is, is guardians just cant help themselves. They cannot. They have to put israel troops mass on gaza border. They have to on gaza border. They have to quantify everything before they can then just deal with the death of the jews. And just like the bbc, they didnt release anything on the first day until israel had strike back. They waited about four hours before they finally released something which was is israel strikes in response to what . So and then you just look at the language of it and its just sort of wave after wave of airstrikes hit the middle controlled territory, not the terrorist controlled territory, even though hamas are a designated terrorist organisation. And then they sort of go on later and theres this guy about going, oh, yeah, i dont think theyve got some expert and this is their front page. I expert and this is their front page. I dont think that theres any basic understanding how this the attacking gaza is going to bnng the attacking gaza is going to bring the captives or get bring back the captives or get rid of hamas. Well thank you guardian that guardian for im sure that israel is going really be israel is going to really be listening your strategy. Me . Listening to your strategy. Me . Its just its disgusting. Its just its disgusting. Paul the labour conference is on the front page there as well. Yeah, it is. Let me do that one as well. As well. Why not josh, why not. Well hell wounded britain. Starmer promises to sparing tory voters when he talks about despairing tory voters. He means those tory voters essentially that voted that would have usually have voted for labour but moved to tories in 2019, largely. Because tories in 2019, largely. Because of two factors. Jeremy corbyn they couldnt understand anything. He was going on about, me included, and brexit and both of those things have gone away. Those things have gone away. Yes, he hesitates. Id imagine yes, he hesitates. Id imagine at least one of them will come back quite strongly over the next few years. However, thats whats happening there. Promise land, hes offering a promise land, a of great new rebuilding. Yes. Well, he certainly seems yes. Well, he certainly seems to have done a fairly plausible job at rooting out the corbynite tendency, although some people will never forget that he was quite willing to corbyn quite willing to see corbyn become minister. Become Prime Minister. But of course. Glittered as course. But he was glittered as well. I think we have some footage of that because it never hurts to see an incident of this kind. I am not at all sure that that wasnt a deliberate stunt. Come on now. You can really. Come on now. You can see hes not happy that on his hes not happy. Hes not. I hes not happy. Hes not. I mean, that is that is a truly horrible thing to happen to anybody. Glitter yeah. Yeah. Well, hes going to be getting that out for weeks. Do we know if he has Young Children . He not have been children . He may not have been braced that at all. No. Braced for that at all. No. How he said he but its weird how he said he thought someone coming do thought someone was coming to do Something Interesting something nice. Its interesting when someone just immediately comes a weird angle. When someone just immediately com kind a weird angle. When someone just immediately comkind of a weird angle. When someone just immediately comkind of like a weird angle. When someone just immediately comkind of like assumeird angle. You kind of like assume milkshake as milkshake nearly enough as he you certainly didnt go you know, he certainly didnt go to school. Mean, you to boarding school. I mean, you know, i wouldnt certainly wish it starmer at all. It upon keir starmer at all. But what on earth was his Security Team doing . Turned up. I mean, they turned up. I mean, they turned up. Yeah, about five seconds after. They should do. And about after. They should do. And about four seconds after. Had it been much , much, much more serious much, much, much more serious than have been needed than they would have been needed. Been Just Stop Oil. So at least been Just Stop Oil and might been end and that might have been the end of conference somebody of the conference if somebody had his forehead. Thats i thought it thats also i thought it would simon brodkin. He would would be simon brodkin. He would do his things. Do one of his things. Hes time very quickly hes got time to very quickly address servants hes got time to very quickly addresto servants hes got time to very quickly addresto delay servants hes got time to very quickly addresto delay covid|nts hes got time to very quickly addresto delay covid warnings trying to delay covid warnings on front well this is on the front pages. Well this is dominic the best prime dominic cummings, the best Prime Minister we never had. Yeah, exactly. Well more during the covid inquiry, more stuff ever coming out. Coming out. And basically theyre saying that that we didnt go into lockdown because they didnt want to basically work on the weekends. Yeah, the Civil Servants and also itjust sounds like we knew that everything was a bit bedlam me and theres some we also knew i think that cummings i mean i think the reason he wanted brexit was because of his despair at the civil and the general Civil Service and the general sort of foot dragging of sort of foot dragging sort of tendency it. Tendency within it. Course, its not tendency within it. Better, urse, its not tendency within it. Better, isse, its not tendency within it. Better, is it . Its not much better, is it . Think we learned i dont think we learned anything new there, simon. I think, you weve ego think, you know, weve got ego man the Civil Service man versus the Civil Service you know, theres and, you know, theres a cartoon want that is cartoon id want to see that is the covered. Join us the front pages covered. Join us after break. Well be after the break. Well be looking at forbidden flags, failed or looking at forbidden flags, fa other or looking at forbidden flags, fa other stories or looking at forbidden flags, fa other stories i or looking at forbidden flags, faother stories i couldnt or looking at forbidden flags, faother stories i couldnt make 2 other stories i couldnt make acronym. So see you in a couple of radio. And welcome back to headliners so we kick off with the telegraph in this section and i suppose at this stage we should be relieved that the snp at least remain neutral on this issue. Josh oh my god. Okay, so let me read the headune okay, so let me read the headline first. Scottish parliament fly Israeli Parliament will not fly israeli flag decision involving snp flag in decision involving snp who it seems who defended hamas. It seems like were going to be doing like were going to be doing like oh, heres another thing about israel. This isnt actually really about israel. Of course in the periphery of course it is in the periphery of it. Is people who it. This is about people who i feel are a danger to western values. This is the green snp values. This is the green snp who they basically all around the world, people have whatever their politics of this thing has been, have shown israels flag or projected the image onto their buildings as a form of solidarity. Paris in all these other places. Yet scotland is other places. Yet scotland is the one place in the world thats not done that just forget what you think of the history and all that stuff just to go, this is terrible. We this tiny this is terrible. We this tiny country , which would be the country, which would be the equivalent of like 50 somewhere, worked it out like 20,000 people dying here or whatever like that just because the population difference like you would just the humanity of it, know, the humanity of it, you know, and they this mp green snp Maggie Chapman was on the panel that decided no were not going to do that. And she put out a tweet on the weekend and that was so insane as the first example on the screen. Oh, here it goes out. Yeah what happens in palestine is settler colony. Its not settler colony. This is where jews come from. Thats fine. Its actually reclaiming the land. Its an indigenous project to return the only country happened. Country thats ever happened. Military occupation, land theft and. Which is and ethnic cleansing. Which is ridiculous. Where a million jews have been kicked of arab have been kicked out of arab countries and whatever. And that. So thats see, those are the things that. Yeah so what she said is its a its apartheid where of course Israeli Arabs have absolutely full equal rights, illegal occupation, gaza has israel has not been in gaza since 2005. So all this mental stuff and this is as these unbelievable crimes against humanity were being revealed. So the fact that this person is so on the panel that says , no, were not going to says, no, were not going to show an israeli flag. But you know what . It wasnt just her. There was a tory, there was a labour person, there was snp as well. I think they were all pro it werent they. Well no, but she cant. Well no, but she cant. But if its why her but if its why would her one thing trump the other to thing top trump all the other to be my only assume it to be be my only assume it has to be unanimous. If thats unanimous. Okay well if thats what doesnt say here. What it doesnt say it here. No it doesnt. But simon can prove me wrong. I, um. I well, all i saw was that donald cameron. It says the that donald cameron. It says the scottish tories external affairs spokesman said its not surprising parliaments surprising the parliaments corporate body rejected the reasonable of my reasonable proposal of my colleague, maggie colleague, given that Maggie Chapman herself sits on that very body , it seems that is very body, it seems that she is the problem. But there is a slight isnt there, that slight sense, isnt there, that that the snp do have an instinctive sort of sense of solidarity with palestine , which solidarity with palestine, which obviously is not to say that hamas is palestine. No, no. But and this is the this is the green, you know, who are absolute cranks. Telegraph no, absolute cranks. Telegraph no, sorry , have i slipped past one. Sorry, have i slipped past one. I think the next story is paul suella. She has opinions about flag flying. So this is flying the palestinian. So this is in the news. This is more of it. Come on. Its unbelievable. Well get there. Dont worry. Flying the palestinian flag in jewish areas could be a criminal offence , could be a criminal offence, Suella Braverman tells police chief. So shes saying she has written to all chief constables in england and wales asking them to consider chance, such as from the river to the sea. I hate the river to the sea. I hate having to read that out. Having to read that out. Palestine will be free and waving palestine flags jewish waving palestine flags in jewish areas as criminal offences. So you just read the so if you just read the headune so if you just read the headline this and dont headline on this and dont go any further, first instinct any further, my first instinct was oh, okay, this is a was like, oh, okay, this is a free speech issue. Perhaps we shouldnt be hard this. Shouldnt be too hard on this. I know of emotion know theres a lot of emotion around at the moment, the around at the moment, but the more about it, the more you read about it, the more you that theres you realise that theres some problem here, problem action going on here, some deliberate acts of people going well known going into a quite well known jewish and trying jewish areas and trying to propagate reaction in totally propagate a reaction in totally unnecessarily in a time when emotions are raised last night i mean this for exactly this is i suppose the question is whether shes on solid ground legally speaking. Obviously, we can probably all agree that morally its reprehensible and its totally unnecessary. And it would be very nice to see the Police Disperse these kind of activities. A lot more efficiently. But can it ever be illegal to wave a flag . I dont illegal to wave a flag . I dont know. I mean, they were waving the flag of the jihad of isis not long ago. That didnt seem to i dont want to i dont want to i dont want to i dont want to demean or undermine any of this in any way. But if you looked football but if you looked at football hooliganism at hooliganism and you looked at other areas, youd other fans in other areas, youd want be dispersed. Want that to be dispersed. Necessarily need to you dont necessarily need to take do take legal action. I do agree with paul. The with you, paul. Now, the telegraph, josh and we are able to grim story at to escape that grim story at last. The Film Industry instead should and hire should get realistic and hire a black female bond. Yeah, and send to yeah, and then send her to kill. Hahaha. Yeah. Kill all of hamas. Hahaha. Yeah. Black female james bond would boost m16 diversity. Black female james bond would boost mi6 diversity. And this is boost mi6 diversity. And this is spy boost mi6 diversity. And this is spy chief. This is someone whos worked for 30 years in recruitment. John taylor speaking at a literature festival. Cheltenham literature festival, as he said, yeah, this is a good idea. Like there are of course two people seeing themselves as representations of themselves as representations of themselves in those roles is more likely to lead to an uptick and you can absolutely argue too, that having a diverse spy service to be able to go into different parts of the world makes total sense. You know, i can totally see if you regard bond as a recruitment tool first and foremost. I suppose thats the question. Paul well, its a fiction for a start. So it can be anything. It could be rabbit for all care. Well, theyve killed bond himself, back himself, so whatever comes back as in the next one as james bond in the next one wont actually james bond. No wont actually be james bond. No and probably. Its probably and its probably. Its probably going purist going to lose 75 of its purist followers, it . As a result . You know what . I dont want to be that but at the end to be that guy, but at the end of the day, if this was a matter of the day, if this was a matter of then i dont think our of fact, then i dont think our prioritisation requirements of fact, then i dont think our prioritisbeon requirements of fact, then i dont think our prioritisbe diversityuirements m atter. Matter. Should be skill it should just be skill set. But see one interesting but i did see one interesting thing he said in the same speech. Said that speech. Apparently he said that he disliked the he particularly disliked the tailor soldier spy john le carre. That was less carre. He said that was less realistic carre. He said that was less reaihe c carre. He said that was less reaihe really sort of lays into he really sort of lays into him properly. Yeah, i mean, did always yeah, i mean, i did always think that was miserably declinist, think is the declinist, as i think is the word, the word, isnt it . And lamented the decline britain. It was decline of britain. It was written the war and written during the cold war and then we won that. And then of course we won that. And we never really apologised. Soldier by the but tailor soldier the by the remake thats thats like top five film for me. I tell you what be though what it would be lovely though to see black female bond and to see a black female bond and it be lovely to see her it would be lovely to see her bnng it would be lovely to see her bring east a bring the middle east to a peaceful settlement. Josh which im sure, josh which is, im sure, killing of hamas. Killing all of hamas. Yeah can yes, exactly. Yeah you can probably my face. Probably read my face. Yeah. So, no, you dont mean yeah. So, no, you dont mean that. Josh and we do need to say just hamas to say that. That. Josh and we do need to say just hamas to say that. Yeah. Just hamas to say that. Yeah. Josh metro now will young is desperate to be accorded Refugee Status from britain. Yeah , this is. Yeah, this is yeah, this is. Yeah, this is great. Im terrified to be gay. A gay man in tory britain. I will leave if they win the election. So this is off the back. No pun intended. Of suella back. No pun intended. Of Suella Braverman speech where she was criticised for basically saying and actually reading the full context here its a bit fairer. Shes basically saying there are places in the world where to be gay is, but there are. It can be gay is, but there are. It can be a death sentence. Or she said a death sentence. Or she said muted or whatever. But that is that going to be enough to let people in like the you know, is that enough of a standard . And that enough of a standard . And obviously there some people obviously there are some people who lie about it and say that who do lie about it and say that theyre gay to gain asylum status anyway, status or whatever. Anyway, the point thats different from point is thats different from the reality of being. I believe just, you know, look, i cant speak to being gay in britain, being gay in britain. Its just people. I being gay in britain. Its just people. I dont being gay in britain. Its just people. I dont care. Being gay in britain. Its just people. I dont care. I being gay in britain. Its just people. I dont care. I just people. I dont care. Ijust dont you dont notice it. I mean, ive got to be honest, i found it very annoying. I mean, not that i really care, but its very annoying of him to claim some sort like the sort of victim status. Like the whole of people coming to whole point of people coming to britain and claiming that theyre because are theyre gay is because gays are treated in country and treated well in this country and theyre treated well iran treated well in this country and thnwherevertreated well iran treated well in this country and thnwherever it ated well iran treated well in this country and thnwherever it at theyell iran treated well in this country and thnwherever it at they mightan treated well in this country and thnwherever it at they might be or wherever it is they might be coming from, to then turn that around say, i, as a gay man, around and say, i, as a gay man, now feel threatened and im afraid. Its afraid. And if, you know, its insulting are insulting to people who are actually battling against genuine institutional homophobia actually battling against genuineto stitutional homophobia actually battling against genuineto leaveonal homophobia actually battling against genuineto leave theiriomophobia actually battling against genuineto leave their country, bia to want to leave their country, theissue to want to leave their country, the issue as to whether or not people fake being gay in people can fake being gay in order into the country. Order to get into the country. Well, ive read enough well, i think ive read enough accounts men twitter accounts from gay men on twitter who happen who say, yes, this does happen and theyre well aware of it, you and you know, its a you know, and you know, its a difficult one to test, obviously, because its much easier somebodys easier to see somebodys ethnicity it see ethnicity than it is to see their sexual orientation, of couisq. Course. I mean, i dont think will young did anything particularly clever the cleverest clever here. But the cleverest thing that he did do was say that this how he was that this was how he was feeling, makes it feeling, which makes it impossible challenge impossible for us to challenge the because the honesty of it, because how do feeling . Do we know what hes feeling . What say is not just what i would say is not just anecdotally, but probably empirically , the evidence would empirically, the evidence would suggest that Great Britain is a perfectly safe place to be for any sexuality. And homosexual sort of homophobia. Sorry, seems to really have become a thing of the past in the last 4 or 5 years, particularly with the trans debate. So i would argue that hes just saying things for a reaction here. Yeah, i think so. Rather tiresome. I hope theres a new tiresome. I hope theres a new album. Male now, paul and the latest attempt to tell the economic time by watching the second hand has come unstuck. Yeah this is, this is a really be interesting story here. So labour plans to reform cohabiting law. Is this the cohabiting law. Is this the cohabiting law. Is this the cohabiting law one yeah. Smashing sorry, guys. Labour. Smashing sorry, guys. Labour. No, this is. This is the imf. Okay. I did wonder. Sorry. Thats why i checked in. So the imf again , in the male imf imf again, in the male imf mocked for succession of fail, failed forecasts in its downgrades as it downgrades uks growth for next year to lowest in g7. And of course, this is in the back of it getting it wrong many, many times now. In fact, the imf has only been right twice since 2016. And just to give you some idea, the imf is essentially one great big bank. It holds about £700 billion from from its members. And each member gets a quota. Uk getting about 10. 5 billion. We put it in and then it gets shared out and i dont know what we get for our we dont know what we get for that 2. 5 billion because it seems to be a very political approach to me. Well, i know the imf like in world terms that and the world wide terms that and the and the world bank are the two main people who main bodies that people who dont like the sort of neoliberal , you know, spread neoliberal, you know, the spread regard agencies regard as the main agencies through the american through which the American Military make it military are sent in to make it safe capitalism. And then safe for capitalism. And then the come in and say, the imf will come in and say, well, if want to us get you well, if you want to us get you out this morass that youve out of this morass that youve got yourselves into, these got yourselves into, then these are have obey. Are the rules you have to obey. Thats essentially would thats essentially and i would say , we are you know, we say again, we are you know, we are much like with the israel thing moment, have to thing at the moment, we have to look things in isolation. Have to look at the we have to look at the particular story at the particular story at the particular time. Right now particular time. And right now theyre uk, theyre saying uk, this, uk, that, and that, but its france and germany that are that are suffering the most economically also. I mean, youre right to say also. Cantan, youre right to say also. Cantan, ylook right to say also. Cantan, ylook atjht to say also. Cantan, ylook at itt to say also. Cantan, ylook at it in say also. Cantan, ylook at it in a;ay you can only look at it in a particular moment, but if you talk i mean, talk about growth, i mean, canada, might have the canada, they say, might have the greatest well, greatest growth next year. Well, thats dont thats probably because i dont know i bet know all the figures, but i bet thats theres some dry thats because theres some dry tundra in canada, because they probably rubbish couple of probably had a rubbish couple of years. Usually years. These things usually even out course of, you out over the course of, you know, im you know, know, i mean im not, you know, pretending britain has had pretending that britain has had a last few a hay ride for the last few years, but ons did. A hay ride for the last few yeadid ut ons did. A hay ride for the last few yea did ut know,5 did. A hay ride for the last few yea did ut know, revisit this did you know, revisit this just a couple ago and just a couple of months ago and say, futures say, actually, the futures a lot brighter for us than expected. Excellent. Were at the Halfway Point the interval Halfway Point after the interval of labours men works war of labours war on men works war on the Technology War on women and the Technology War on women and the Technology War on motoring. All war, on motoring. Its all war. War, war. You in listening to gb news radio. And welcome back to headliners. So lets start with headliners. So lets start with labour Conference News in the mail now, paul and every day we edge a little closer to the world that mocktail want. Yes this is all about cohabiting. This is all about cohabiting. So this is labour plans reform of cohabiting law to give women more rights when couples split, as Emily Thornberry lovely emily says they should not be forced to marry or stay in unhappy relationships to avoid ending up on the streets. Avoid ending up on the streets. I think the streets is a step too far. However, it is evocative. However, it is evocative. It was in liverpool, so yes, the home crowd , i mean, the home crowd, i mean, essentially what theyre talking about here is reforming the law , reforming the law that doesnt actually exist which this actually exist, which is this common partner, wife, common law partner, wife, husband , whatever it might be husband, whatever it might be that weve all kind of at some point in our lives assumed existed, its i. E. You live with you know, you with you know, you live with a girlfriend boyfriend girlfriend or boyfriend or whoever period of time whoever for some period of time in that and therefore, you in that house and therefore, you believe the 50 theres a 5050 split at some point. But sadly, when somebody passes away , the when somebody passes away, the reality is that its not quite that way. Or of course, if, as you say or they seem be saying so, or as they seem to be saying so, a couple will live together, cohabit share cohabit for ten years and share the or whatever. But then the rent or whatever. But then they split up. How do you decide who gets to stay there . That is the point , who gets to stay there . That is the point, think, this the point, i think, in this case. Yeah. Know what . In and do you know what . In practise dont have any any practise i dont have any any particular with at particular issue with this at all. I think weve reached a point in in in in society now and within western and within sort of western society in particular, where marriage im married, i think you are too. So i know josh is. I think i am. You think you are too. Ill be married for ive been married for 20 years. Its something that. But its not something that. But its not something thats the norm anymore. Totally the something thats the norm anymcso totally the something thats the norm anymcso so totally the something thats the norm anymcso so we totally the something thats the norm anymcso so we needlly the something thats the norm anymcso so we need to the norm. So so we need to accommodate type of relationship. I think there is a of i think there is a sort of understanding. I think it used to in equity that understanding. I think it used to pay in equity that understanding. I think it used to pay a in equity that understanding. I think it used to pay a certainin equity that understanding. I think it used to pay a certain amount that understanding. I think it used to pay a certain amount ifhat understanding. I think it used to pay a certain amount if you, you pay a certain amount if you, you pay a certain amount if you, you you can prove. You know, if you can prove. But i think that what yeah. But i think that what theyre here is theyre saying here is particularly with young particularly people with Young Children, other children, but also the other thing no time of date. Thing they give no time of date. Like long talking like how long are we talking about . Two three years . About . Two years. Three years . Theyre like, say theyre talking about like, say youve with youve been together with someone yeah. Youve been together with son not e yeah. Youve been together with son not necessarily yeah. Youve been together with son not necessarily aboutyeah. Youve been together with son not necessarily about who. Its not necessarily about who owns house. Like, owns the house. Its like, should pay your partner should you pay your partner something . What i would suggest is married and then is we do get married and then you a prenup. Yeah. And then you get a prenup. Yeah. And then you get a prenup. Yeah. And then you have with any of this. If funnily enough, i think there is a to be said there is a lot to be said for that, to honest, know, that, to be honest, you know, genuinely. Youre welcome, guys. It alain de botton it i read an alain de botton book said great book recently. He said the great thing to approach is thing to approach marriage is the commitment the least romantic commitment youre life. Theres youre making your life. Theres a said for that. A lot to be said for that. Independent shocking independent now shocking evidence are evidence that women execs are struggling stress, evidence struggling with stress, evidence that should probably see me put on suicide watch. This is on the suicide watch. This is what stress is. Well, theres far more women executives experience stress than men with addiction problems. Common . Well, i dont know how that works. Anyway. The point that works. Anyway. The point is, 4 in women in high paid is, 4 in 10 women in high paid jobs they take recreational jobs say they take recreational drugs once week. 3 in 10 say drugs once a week. 3 in 10 say they consume a lot of drugs dunng they consume a lot of drugs during work. Yeah, thats pretty amazing. Obviously amazing. So theyre obviously the with. And the people to party with. And this are women senior this is these are women Senior Business leaders who take home 75,000. So what youre saying is there are these women out there, theyre partying, theyre taking drugs, they earn loads of money. Where are they . Yeah where are they . What what i love is they they . What what i love is they kind of go a third of women say theyve struggled with alcohol. I mean, what does that mean , i mean, what does that mean, struggling with alcohol . Theyve drunk. Theyve alcohol. Struggling with alcohol . Theyve dru unless eyve alcohol. Struggling with alcohol . Theyve dru unless yous alcohol. Struggling with alcohol . Theyve dru unless you cant alcohol. Struggling with alcohol . Theyve dru unless you cant get cohol. Struggling with alcohol . Theyve dru unless you cant get unless unless you cant get unless you struggle to lift it up to their lips is too heavy for my little properly chilled, irrespective of the sex involved. In terms of gender, theres no sex involved according to this. I mean, disappointingly. Oh no, they say no. There is a bit i read to the end and it said that they work out, they work out their stress by having sex. Oh this is 54 of female execs reported using sex to relieve stress. Who is 32 . Well, i dont know. But i want to watch this know. But i want to watch this video. It is a depressing video. It is a depressing insight, though , isnt it . I insight, though, isnt it . I mean, the idea. But what i mean by that is the whole rat race idea where these people in such hellish jobs , they cant hellish jobs, they cant possibly get through the day. Possibly get through the day. Well, there will be a lot of people watching this who will probably thinking probably be thinking quietly to themselves. I knew women wouldnt. Theyd themselves. I knew women woulwanted theyd themselves. I knew women woulwanted go theyd themselves. I knew women woulwanted go to. Theyd themselves. I knew women woulwanted go to. Andzyd themselves. I knew women woulwanted go to. And they they wanted to go to. And they dont they dont like dont like it. They dont like it at all. Would much it at all. They would much rather be at home, but there it is. Indeed. And is well, indeed. And that is thats a very. Theyre taking too and having too too many drugs and having too much sex and earning money. Were woman. Now who you were a woman. Now who wanted to stay at home. Lets say such bizarre, say you were such a bizarre, archaic throwback of an individual to individual who just wanted to stay raise her kids. Stay home and raise her kids. Youd have no one either side of you. You be no one the you. Would you be no one in the street. You what i mean . Street. You know what i mean . Its shell every its a hollow shell every morning. Be. Its a hollow shell every mo thats be. Its a hollow shell every mo thats a be. Its a hollow shell every mo thats a really be. Its a hollow shell every mo thats a really interesting. Thats a really interesting. There of women there are still plenty of women and people and also now women, people working people like working from home, people like there of people in our there was loads of people in our neighbourhood. It great. Neighbourhood. It was all great. Telegraph. Now, that is from telegraph. Now, finally, news, albeit finally, some good news, albeit in form a pool. In the form of a lottery pool. Well, let nearly half of well, let me nearly half of speed cameras in england and wales are out of action. Me you something. Let me tell you something. The on hill the one on putney hill definitely no, because definitely isnt. No, because i got doing and a 20 got caught doing 24 and a 20 just recently way to gb just recently on my way to gb news, got a big for news, i got a big fine for parking outside the fire engines on well. On that hill as well. Yeah. Yeah. Something with putney something to do with putney hill. Know what it is hill. I dont know what it is the borough of wandsworth. They dont news. Dont like us here at gb news. Well, you might do. I dont know. Parking stopped briefly i say parking stopped briefly in light. I didnt in a traffic light. I didnt park. Park. No, park. No, no , park. No, no, just stop. Just abandon car. Just fine. Abandon your car. Just be fine. Itll theyre itll be fine. I mean, theyre saying that derbyshire, saying here that derbyshire, essex devon and cornwall are essex and devon and cornwall are the regions across england with the regions across england with the most speed cameras with more than each. Than 100 each. However, in all, three forces had at least 40 incapable of catching speeding drivers. Wait, wait. Sorry are you telling me that it was totally like me cutting those cameras down was worthless . Yeah. Yeah what a waste of time. Are we going to get the Police Coming now . What this article does is the cutting down thing. Now . What this article does is the theyng down thing. Now . What this article does is the they ng dowrthe ng. Now . What this article does is the theyng dowrthe chainsaw or they do like the chainsaw or the actual grinders whatever. They do like the chainsaw or the edont grinders whatever. They do like the chainsaw or the edont theerrs whatever. They do like the chainsaw or the edont they just whatever. They do like the chainsaw or the edont they just wharedzr. Why dont they just spray red paint the lens . I havent paint on the lens . I havent been able understand that, paint on the lens . I havent beei able understand that, paint on the lens . I havent beei dont understand that, paint on the lens . I havent beei dont going erstand that, paint on the lens . I havent beei dont going ers do. I that, but i dont going to do. Wouldnt it be if we admitted to knowing why when . Knowing why or when . Police i dont want the Police Coming round . I mean, seeing those widely those videos, its quite widely known gatso known that the old gatso cameras, are the wider, cameras, which are the wider, bigger film cameras, which are the wider, biggncameras, film cameras, which are the wider, biggncameras, just film cameras, which are the wider, biggncameras, just haventlm type cameras, just havent worked years they worked for years because they cant replace the parts. Thats lovely. The old no, thats lovely. The old wet though. Like that wet film though. I like that scene the omen or scene like in the omen or something, people want to something, but people want to know ive got one. This is what want to this is what people want to know. Want to know where. Know. They want to know where. Dont suffolk dont go to wales or suffolk because where they work because thats where they work loads in loads and do speed in leicestershire. There you go. Josh, interesting male now, josh, interesting findings pursuit male now, josh, interesting finhappiness. Pursuit male now, josh, interesting fin happiness. Yeah pursuit of happiness. Yeah britain bucks bucks. Global happiness trend index trend with poll revealing non religious people in the uk have a higher sense of well being than the faithful. So theres a lot of statistics theyre throwing statistics that theyre throwing around gist it around here, but the gist of it is that if its a religious country , like 80 of people are country, like 80 of people are religious , then actually religious, then actually religious, then actually religious people are happier. All right. And im wondering because if its just it sounds like its a fundamentalist country. Yeah, you just have to say that. But if its not if its not a particularly religious country, then actually its not a particularly religiouatheistsy, then actually its not a particularly religiou atheists are|en actually its not a particularly religiou atheists are more tually its not a particularly religiou atheists are more happy. Be like atheists are more happy. It just feels like its very much like at home mums. Much like stay at home mums. Long youve its as long as youve got a critical mass, its fine. You just to be the only just dont want to be the only one to. One whos not going to. Yeah, the more i read well, yeah, the more i read of this, it was less about religion, you know, it was less a reflection on less religion and about fact that and more about the fact that there religion there is less religion everywhere and therefore its nothing. Everywhere and therefore its noihappiness think on happiness when i think its quite is quite interesting is that i mean, it happened few years ago. The positive psychology movement. Every often movement. And every so often theres new theres a little sort of new wave, are starting to wave, but people are starting to understand might be that wave, but people are starting to undwcanmd might be that wave, but people are starting to undwcan take might be that wave, but people are starting to undwcan take from might be that wave, but people are starting to undwcan take from religion e that you can take from Religion Without believe in without having to believe in a supernatural element like the regular of gratitude. Regular expression of gratitude. The you know, the regular, you know, meditation whatever meditation practise or whatever. Theres sorts ways. Theres all sorts of ways without kind of like wanting to make of pick cherry make it, to kind of pick cherry picking where you can benefit from something. Read a book from something. I read a book recently called rupert recently, a guy called Rupert Sheldrake , who talks all about sheldrake, who talks all about going very is very interesting, talks about going on talks all about going on pilgrimages, if its not to pilgrimages, even if its not to an actual faith that you believe in, you know, rituals. Yeah , yeah. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, yeah. Can be very you know, these can be very you know, they furnish a life quite. They can furnish a life quite. Telepathy is his thing. Yes he has some very extraordinary views about dogs. But. But, views about dogs. But. But, you know, to take a man on know, id like to take a man on his spectrum. Yeah, yeah. His spectrum. Mail, yeah. His spectrum. Mail again, yeah. His spectrum. Mail again, paul, this story his spectrum. Icertainly1, paul, this story his spectrum. Icertainly resonatehis story his spectrum. Icertainly resonate withiny will certainly resonate within the comedy community. I think. Youre right. Yeah, i think youre right. Psychotherapy perry psychotherapy Philippa Perry which grayson which happens to be Grayson Perrys wife, warns that adhd is becoming fashionable mental becoming a fashionable Mental Health buzzword amid a rise in diagnoses and says its driven by social contagion. Now shes by social contagion. Now shes being vilified for this. Being vilified for this. Yes. Yes. However, what i always find very interesting, whether its adhd or anything, and ill come back to adhd in a moment, its always the people that call out the emperor not wearing the clothes that to in clothes that seem to get in trouble. What the statement that shes is true. We are shes making is true. We are seeing a massive increase in people with adhd, a lot of them self diagnosed , and it can be self diagnosed, and it can be quite unhelpful. And theyre wearing it as a badge. The reason can be quite unhelpful reason it can be quite unhelpful is i mean, we probably all know. Reason it can be quite unhelpful isknow,in, we probably all know. Reason it can be quite unhelpful isknow, ii, we probably all know. Reason it can be quite unhelpful isknow, i certainlyyably all know. Reason it can be quite unhelpful isknow, i certainlyyabljdearknow. I know, i certainly do. Dear friends of mine that have got adhd really struggle adhd that really struggle with life result. Theyre life as a result. And theyre kind trying kind of theyre trying to chucked other chucked in with all these other people want to do people now who want to do edinburgh shows. Similar thing when it was a similar thing when people started talking about ocd a im a few years ago. Yeah, im terribly what they mean is terribly ocd. What they mean is they all cups they like to see all their cups in a know, i know in a row, you know, i know people who cant leave the house on occasion because, you know, cant is a horrible, cant stop, which is a horrible, debilitating cant stop, which is a horrible, debilititimes more people have cant stop, which is a horrible, debilidiagnosedyre people have cant stop, which is a horrible, debilidiagnosed with ople have cant stop, which is a horrible, debilidiagnosed with thee have been diagnosed with the condition last five condition in the last five years. So, of course, its social racket, but its my wife says shes shes going on about it. Sorry, dont dont get angry with me. Good old grayson, i. Ive got an interesting story about him, but thats for the break. Section to go break. One more section to go after break. We hip hop after the break. We have hip hop shortages, so solar storm hit swans and its all in a world of digital simulation. Well see you in a couple of minutes and welcome back to headliners. So we start the final part with the daily mail, one of my favourite g wizardry speculations has a new iteration indeed. Are we living in a simulation . Physicist claims he has new evidence. Were simply characters in an advanced virtual world. This is, of course, essentially the plot of the matrix. Um, course, essentially the plot of the matrix. Um, and course, essentially the plot of the matrix. Um, and basically the matrix. Um, and basically because i cant explain this in any way, ive really , really tried. I read me to have a go at it. Yeah asi yeah as i was reading this earlier and again now im thinking simons going to fill his. And again now im thinking simons going to fill his. Ill simons going to fill his. Ill just say one thing it does say to put it simply, everything appears to evolve in equilibrium state information state where the information is. Thats so you go, please. Roughly speaking , he says roughly speaking, he says that you can think of all the matter in the world, all the atoms that contain contain within least in within the earth, at least in terms information, terms terms of information, in terms of many bits of of bits and how many bits of information in actually in the world of computing, weve created that created in the time that computing been around since computing has been around since the mid 70s. And see the mid 70s. And when you see the mid 70s. And when you see the amount of the accelerate and the amount of information creating all information were creating all the how much more the time and how much more complicated its getting, it wont very much wont be very much longer. Before reality before we could create reality such it , which before we could create reality such it, which again such as we see it, which again you would and you wouldnt be in it. The second law of thermodynamic x, which means which broken which something thats broken couldnt together couldnt be put back together, which that which essentially what that would these would be doing. So all these things that have been taken apart be put back apart could be put back together. I still dont together. Oh, so i still dont get does feel a bit get it. Yeah, it does feel a bit like the thing would say like the only thing i would say is it doesnt feel like is it doesnt feel to me like its insight. Its a particularly new insight. Slightly different way its a particularly new insight. Expressing htly different way its a particularly new insight. Expressing it, different way its a particularly new insight. Expressing it, butferent way its a particularly new insight. Expressing it, but itsnt way its a particularly new insight. Expressing it, but its the ay of expressing it, but its the same basic idea that has led to people thinking theres a simulation hypothesis if simulation hypothesis is that if it that it were possible that a simulation could be created at some point in the future, then the odds that thats what were living in become almost like, you 1 trillion to 1 that you know, 1 trillion to 1 that we are because because there would many simulations would be so many simulations that were much more likely to be in one of those than be living in one of those than in have definitive proof in the. I have definitive proof that were not in that were not living in a simulation. Go because go ahead. Because your explanation painful for explanation was so painful for me theres that that me that theres no way that that matrix were painful things in the in life than this is like the in life than this is like the older i refute it thus kicking the stone. Anyway, i it intriguing. Anyway, i find it intriguing. There are if people are interested, theres a great film on youtube about it called the simulation hypothesis. Do i think about hour long think its about an hour long and makes them very plausible and it makes them very plausible explanations, not least quantum entanglement, which becomes solved immediately. Entanglement, which becomes solioh, immediately. Entanglement, which becomes solioh, iimediately. Entanglement, which becomes solioh, i knowately. That. Is it oh, i know about that. Is it just does it feel like just me or does it feel like science god when science is looking for god when they things . It a they do these things . It does a little bit. Me, it feels like little bit. To me, it feels like there isnt a god to them. So theyre trying to find theyre just trying to find something replace theyre just trying to find someisnt] replace theyre just trying to find someisnt] yes replace god, isnt it . Yes all questions are at bottom. Theological questions. What about the telegraph . Bad news for craft beer drinkers. Hip hop crops hit drink up. Now a global beer shortage could be on the way. So this is a beer shortage on the basis basis really, of global. A Global Warming this is a Global Warming story with the growth of hops crowbarred in it feels a little bit like to me because because there seems to be zero zero evidence to suggest this evidence to suggest that this would happen because theyve used or a simulation, used a model or a simulation, whatever words want , whatever words you want, terminology to use to terminology you want to use to describe how theyve up describe how theyve come up with this. What dont understand with this. A what dont understand with this. A resultt dont understand with this. A result of dont understand with this. A result of this nt understand with this. A result of this storylderstand with this. A result of this story isrstand as a result of this story is what the baseline data was. If you dont know whats being put in compared in and what its being compared against, difficult to against, its very difficult to ascertain the output ascertain whether the output is of lets of any value. However, lets assume for a minute that Global Warming is going in the direction that these people believe is. They are saying believe it is. They are saying that hops , particularly in that hops, particularly in southern parts of the uk, will struggle to grow in the same way they used to, and itll be mainly the north. So well be mainly in the north. So well be drinking result. Mainly in the north. So well be dthinkg result. Mainly in the north. So well be dthink well result. Mainly in the north. So well be dthink well just result. Mainly in the north. So well be dthink well just be result. Mainly in the north. So well be dthink well just be drinking. I think well just be drinking different tasting beers. Exactly. The whole thing about most people about hops is that most people dont apparently dont even like it. Apparently it into beer it was introduced into beer to make slow bit make people slow down a bit initially. Its not its initially. I think its not its not a very pleasant taste. I mean, takes year olds mean, it takes 16 year olds quite few glasses of a decent quite a few glasses of a decent bitter to adapt to it. I mean, i like obviously. Like it now, obviously. Was if there was but if this was if there was truth this, a global beer truth to this, if a global beer shortage actually being on the way, we would get to net zero in about a month. Yeah youve got a real good point. Such a good. The metro have bad for news travellers though at least there are only swans and at least this time its ulez, solar time its not ulez, its solar storms. Solar storms are yes, solar storms are pummelling earth and screwing with swans. They to say that in the metro no screwing with messing with. I dont know. Come on, happy. On, queen wouldnt be happy. Yeah. Interesting. So yeah. So its interesting. So its it basically because of the solar storms the effect it has on the planets Magnetic Field that that is theyve sort of gathered all the data and theyve shown that it basically birds will wont fly or go on migrations when there are these big solar storms because obviously its messing with the Magnetic Field, which is how they is they travel, which is fascinating. Just birds , fascinating. Not just birds, also sea turtles. Didnt know that. I didnt know that. I remember reading. I think they have in their beaks. Like have it in their beaks. Like theres a bit of iron in their beaks. I dont know this is beaks. I dont know if this is all swans look if all birds. Swans look as if their wouldnt contain their beaks wouldnt contain iron, dont they . Somehow, i dont do. Dont know. They do. Ive often thought dont know. They do. Simon, often thought dont know. They do. Simon, often withght dont know. They do. Simon, often with every that, simon, but as with every one of these stories, we read the news cycle a lot, the three of us. And you do get to see this. Theres always a paragraph that story. That undermines the whole story. Go here its the one go on. And here its the one that however is that says. However little is still about how these still known about how these disturbances animals, disturbances affect animals, which earths which depend on the earths magnetic migratory Magnetic Field or migratory navigation orientation. So navigation and orientation. So the of saying, look, if it the sort of saying, look, if it did affect them, this would affect them, but we dont know how it affects them, what how much it affects them, what theyre saying is if it does affect them, but dont know theyre saying is if it does affe itthem, but dont know theyre saying is if it does affe it affects. Jt dont know how it affects. We know the mechanism, we dont know the mechanism, but observe the but we do observe that when the solar storms flare up the swans, they dont bother. Theyre like, dont going dont bother. Im not going out in the turtles just just and the turtles just just going break an going to break an arm. Satnav is spinning. Yeah. Break break break a childs arm. Break a childs. To make sure childs. You got to make sure youre libelling swans. Oh, youre not libelling swans. Oh, yeah. Sorry as yeah yeah. Sorry as well. Yeah mass and swans. Ive really got it for everybody tonight. Got it in for everybody tonight. Yourself were going to have yourself in some genetic meddling news now in the mail. Im sure everyone is very relaxed about this bird flu. This approach to bird flu. Mean, there unlikely. I mean, there wrapping this up as a good news story, i think. But gene editing techniques could stop the spread of bird flu among chickens and reduce the risk of it making the jump reduce the risk of it making the jump to humans, a new study finds. So the more you read about this story, more the about this story, the more the more you feel this more it makes you feel like this is for genetically is a big advert for genetically modified , which, you know, modified food, which, you know, is to going upset a lot of people at the end of the day, i dont care how the chicken was produced, as long as its covered in those 11 secret herbs and spices. I covered in those 11 secret herbs and spices. I am very comfortable. But there are a lot of people out there because genetically modified foods is much larger in places like the United States than the United States than it is in the uk europe. You know, uk and europe. And, you know, whenever weve talked about trading with United Trading deals with the United States, about food. States, weve talked about food. People feel people have gone, but they feel all with water all their chickens with water and chlorine. But you get bird flu. But you wont get bird flu. Ive got to say, i think there are obviously with are some i mean, obviously with crops, they crops, we know that they use genetic to make crops, we know that they use genet resistant to make crops, we know that they use genet resistant to to make crops, we know that they use genet resistant to bugs make them resistant to bugs and diseases and so on, they diseases and so on, and they also use to make them also use it to make them resistant to the things. They then spray bugs with so that then spray the bugs with so that they you they kill them. But you know, its moving its always moving in a direction towards minimising the amount disease, thats amount of disease, right . Thats thats main thing. It would thats the main thing. It would be quite good, would it be also quite good, would it not, like genetically not, to like genetically modified chickens. So that they couldnt be aware of the horrors of the conditions they live in, make them with even smaller brains . Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Really yeah. Really utterly brainless. Brainless. Well, maybe. I mean, kill themselves. That could well be like grown meat or whatnot, like Lab Grown Meat or whatnot, but. Yeah, but bird flu a but. Yeah, but bird flu is a real issue. Obviously a real issue. Obviously has a massive economy massive impact on the economy and aviation economy or whatever. And uh, but theyve talked here about a lot of tests and nine out of ten this and, and nine out of ten this and, and they didnt do the Chicken Nugget test at the end, right. Like they should do, like, lets just messing the just like were messing with the genes yeah. Aftennards genes here. Yeah. Aftennards after all your tests, cook come up. Do they taste like chicken . Up. Do they taste like chicken . I mean, you two both seem to consume your chicken in very fast food form. Roast a roast . Roast a roast . I mean, yeah, i prefer it in a roast. Ill be honest. Ive just got the body a man who just got the body of a man who doesnt. Finally, josh , last story for finally, josh, last story for tonight. Back to metro. A tonight. Back to the metro. A quick russian roulette quick game of russian roulette with the entire with the future of the entire species. Species. Humans have a 1 in yeah, humans have a 1 in 6 chance of going extinct this century. Apparently this is from an oxford based philosopher , an oxford based philosopher, toby orb. Hes got a book called toby orb. Hes got a book called the precipice. And then there the precipice. And then there was a lot of stuff about so. Well what theyre saying it could be as climate change, Nuclear Weapons bioengineered pathogens, rogue ai and large asteroids. But the gist of it asteroids. But the gist of it was this article and i know you know, youre much clever than me, so you know this you actually understood this, but it seemed to be its all about probability and if stuff had happened before, like a large asteroid, that seem to asteroid, that would seem to make a lot less chance it make it a lot less chance it would happen again. And at the end it, comes down to end of it, it comes all down to they think, well, once its kind of sounds nice. Thing which he the thing about it, which he said, which i thought was quite interesting, that its interesting, is that its not something about something you can talk about in terms probability, because terms of probability, because probability is if you say, for instance, 1 in instance, theres a 1 in 6 chance rain tomorrow and chance it will rain tomorrow and you so often, you say that every so often, then you can easily monitor how often it rained the next day and you can say whether that forecast was accurate. This is a forecast was accurate. This is a forecast a thing that forecast about a thing that will be one event from be such a one off event from which be no return. Which there will be no return. Therell opportunity therell be no opportunity to go. Well you said that year go. Well you said that last year and end you. I mean, and it didnt end you. I mean, its going its just saying its going to be he is identifying be wrong. But he is identifying certain things. And it was interesting climate interesting how he said climate change, Nuclear Weapons and bioengineer pathogens. He regards as a big risk rogue ai and large asteroids. He doesnt now, i think hes. And large asteroids. He doesnt now, i think hes. Dont you now, i think hes. Dont you think that rogue ai ought to be in the first category . Theyre large. Hes just saying that because other scientists have said quite opposite. The just the by the way, just for the people listening on the radio, when josh said, i know youre people listening on the radio, when clevereri, i know youre people listening on the radio, when cleverer than low youre people listening on the radio, when cleverer than 1,111 youre people listening on the radio, when cleverer than i, hejure people listening on the radio, when cleverer than i, he was much cleverer than i, he was referring me. But referring to simon, not me. But it does feel like it does. It does feel like anyone could write a like anyone could write a book like this at the moment because you just one the one of just i mean, one of the one of the is, can we the sub headlines is, can we learn moon . Dont learn from the moon . And i dont know moon has know if the moon has consciousness. Simon so i dont know can from it, know if we can learn from it, but well, i suppose, but well, you could, i suppose, project a few texts onto it and get to read it that way. Get kids to read it that way. But made of cheese, isnt but it is made of cheese, isnt it . It is. Im sure thats one of the risks the show is the risks we face. The show is nearly lets take another nearly over. Lets take another quick at wednesdays quick look at wednesdays front pages. Was pages. The daily mail. This was a holocaust, pure and simple. And by by holly willoughby, guardian. Israeli troops massed guardian. Israeli troops massed on gaza border as hamas attack death toll hits 1000 and starmer the telegraph hamas massacre as babies and children and the man glittering keir starmer metro 40 babies murdered by hamas. The daily star get a shroom fun guy will cure worlds disease. Liz will cure worlds disease. Liz well, those were your front pages. Thats all we have time for. Thank you to my guests, josh and paul. Paul is back josh and paul. Paul is back tomorrow at 11 pm. With leo kearse and louis shaffer. If you are watching at 5 am, stay tuned for breakfast. Othennise, its been a pleasure. Thank you for entrusting your evening to this morning in an Israeli Border village where entire families were killed. Reporters are shown the scene of a massacre where the bodies of men, women, children and even babies have been found. According to the israeli military. Gb news Investigative Reporter Charlie Peters is in tel aviv. Tel aviv. Good morning. Yes here in israel, its an extraordinary situation. Reports coming in overnight of shelling from syria andindeed overnight of shelling from syria and indeed more violence in the south, more coming later this morning. Morning. All that as the European Union condemns israels blockade of gaza, saying the denial of food, water and electricity is illegal under international law. Meanwhile the home secretary ramps up security across the uk to protect jewish communities from hate crime and elsewhere. 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