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Buy and sell whatever property they want . And tonight , you know they want . And tonight, you know they want . And tonight, you know the drill. On a friday we opened jubilee tavern. We have cheeky jubilee tavern. We have a cheeky drink. And joining me tonight is an absolute legend , john cleese. An absolute legend, john cleese. Yes and i want to put your questions to him. So have you got any questions . Get in touch. Weve got it all to come and more. But first up, lets grab tonights latest headlines. Michelle, thank you very much. And good evening. This is the latest. A man and good evening. This is the latest. A man has and good evening. This is the latest. A man has been remanded latest. A man has been remanded in custody over an alleged plot to kidnap and kill tv presenter holly willoughby. Gb News Reporter lisa hartle has been outside court in chelmsford, 36 year old gavin plum appeared at Chelmsford Magistrates Court this afternoon. The Shopping Centre Security Guard from harlow in essex has been charged with soliciting a man named david nelson to commit murder and incitement to commit kidnap between the second and the 5th of october. Plum is accused of planning to assemble accused of planning to assemble a kidnap and restraint kit and encouraging a third party to travel to the uk to carry out the alleged offences. He was remanded in custody and ordered to appear on the 3rd of november at Chelmsford Crown court. Neighbours , describing its neighbours, describing its rutherglen and Hamilton West by election win as a seismic victory. Michael shanks took the seat with 58 of the vote, more than double that of the snps katie loudon. Labour leader sir keir starmer says scotland is key to securing a majority at the next general election. Ive been determined from the moment i took over as leader of the labour party to take us from one of the worst defeats since the 1930. For us to a general election victory. And thats why weve worked so hard to change the labour party. Ive always said , and the route to that said, and the route to that general election runs through scotland and that is because i know how strongly so many people in scotland want change and i want to, if were elected in to serve , i want to be the prime serve, i want to be the Prime Minister for the whole of the united kingdom, not just of the united kingdom, not just of the united kingdom. So it matters hugely that we succeed here in scotland. Scotland. Now, a key supporter of the Just Stop Oil protest group says hes redirecting his funding to a youth voting campaign. Green Energy Industrialist dale vince says hes given more than £340,000 since the groups foundation. But he says under the current government , protest the current government, protest cannot work and warns further disruption may prove counter productive. Mr vince is instead supporting a new cause aimed at encouraging young people to vote just oboyle says it will continue its campaign of civil resistance. Former first resistance. Former first minister and Current Alba Party leader alex salmond says humza yousaf has days to save his job after the by election defeat. Scotlands first minister says the snp needs time to reflect on the snp needs time to reflect on the result. The snp, we didnt do enough. We know that there was contextual factors. Margaret ferriers reckless actions, the Police Investigation of course, but weve got to reflect, ive got to reflect the party has to ensure weve got a Good Campaign machine behind us, but also that were inspiring people with a message. We clearly got a message. We clearly got a message from the voters of rutherglen and Hamilton West that the snp has lost some trust in that seat. Weve got to make sure we regain it. The green party has promised to deliver warm homes and further protection for renters as the party which currently has one member of parliament, has begun its Party Conference in brighton today. Begun its Party Conference in brighton today. Its co leaders brighton today. Its co leaders Adrian Ramsay and carla denyer confirmed the party will be seeking to get four mps elected. They set out their plans for homes as every home should be properly insulated and free from damp and mould. Wed give renters the legal right to demand this from their landlords. Landlords. Now a conservative councillor has called for the home secretarys resignation over the handung secretarys resignation over the handling of scampton. The handling of scampton. The government is accused of ignonng government is accused of ignoring a legal order to stop converting the former air base into a migrant camp to house 2000 people. The home office says its confident the project meets planning requirements. But councillor Roger Paterson described the department as liars. Police and private liars. Police and private companies are being urged to stop using facial recognition surveillance. A group of 65 mps and peers backing a big brother watch campaign are calling for change. Police have used live facial Recognition Software at large scale Public Events such as the kings coronation in. The group says its concerned about human rights, the potential for discrimination and a lack of pubuc discrimination and a lack of public mandate. Discrimination and a lack of public mandate. And finally , public mandate. And finally, house prices fell slightly last month, but proved more resilient than analysts had expected. Higher Mortgage Rates were expected to fuel a sharp decline , but they only fell by 0. 4. Halifax says on a month on month basis , prices have dropped for basis, prices have dropped for six months in a row, with the average home now. Costing average home now. Costing £280,000. This is gb news across the uk on tv, in your car, on Digital Radio and now on your Smart Speaker by saying play gb news. Now its back to. Michelle news. Now its back to. Michelle thanks for that, tatiana and Michelle Dewberry and im with you till 7 00. Conservative life peerin you till 7 00. Conservative life peer in the house of lords Daniel Moylan alongside me, as is the trade unionist paul embery. Evening , everybody. Embery. Good evening, everybody. Evening, michelle. Hope are evening, michelle. Hope you are all was about to call all well. I was about to call you my friday regular. You are that arent you . That now, arent you . I think probably am. Yeah i think i probably am. Yeah ive turning up for about a ive been turning up for about a year on its because theres year on a its because theres a cost of living crisis in years on a friday gets a free beer. I think thats the draw on a friday the best pub around the tubesis. It is. And anyway, you it is. It is. And anyway, you tie up the tubes tavern nicely because dubois tavern does indeed friday, indeed open on friday, just before the program. Before the end of the program. And tonight , ive got very and tonight, ive got a very special guest keeping me company for a crafty pint. Ive got the comedy legend , none other than comedy legend, none other than john cleese. So i want to put john cleese. So i want to put some of your questions to him. So get in touch with me. All the usual ways, not just about that, but all of the topics. Ive got a packed programme for you tonight gbviews gbnews. Com is of course you hold of me. Course how you get hold of me. If twitter or or whatever it if twitter or x or whatever it is these days is your thing at gb news is how you get hold of me. But of course the big story dominating the ainnaves tonight is the fact that labour have indeed won that by election up indeed won that by election up in scotland , rutherglen and in scotland, rutherglen and Hamilton West and theyre absolutely smashed. The snp , absolutely smashed. The snp, theyve got about 58 of the votes. A lot of people talking votes. A lot of people talking here because it was a swing of about 23. A huge swing. You can about 23. A huge swing. You can see the votes there. Interesting enough the turnout there was only a ten out of 57. 19. But you can see the massive difference there between labour and of course, the snp. Youre. Talking course, the snp. Youre. Talking 18,000 to 8000 there or thereabouts. For those that are listening , not watching in fact, listening, not watching in fact, actually, no. I shall start with you, keir starmer absolutely. Beside himself with joy at the moment saying that this is obviously seismic. Its a shape of things to come. He reckons that that labour that it proves that labour can win listening to win anywhere. I was listening to a couple of pollsters earlier on saying if the general saying that if the general election follows the same swing, youll see potentially 40 seats up in scotland for labour. What do you make to it all . I think by elections generally are not great barometers when it comes to general elections. There are general elections. There are lots of variables. There was a lots of variables. There was a lot of tactical voting going on here. Clearly the labour party will crow about it and theyve got every right to. Theyve done well. Its a spectacular result and they are. They are not. We i thought that you was labour through and through. Well. Am, but i like to well i am, but i like to maintain an air of impartiality on your show, michel. Okay, but listen, ill know colours to listen, ill know my colours to the yeah, should the mast. Yeah, we should crow about got about it because weve got a good result up there. Although im certainly not starmer. Im certainly not a starmer. Right be clear about right let me be clear about that. And the labour party clearly favourites clearly are the favourites for the election, but i suspect the next election, but i suspect really this is not a 1997 type moment. I really this is not a 1997 type moment. I think some people in the labour party are assuming it is and we all knew, you know, weeks and months and years, to be honest, in advance of the 97 election that the labour party was going to storm it because the tories were a busted flush. I dont think this is quite the same dont think that same thing. I dont think that the party at the moment the labour party at the moment have sealed deal with the have sealed the deal with the british in the way british electorate in the way that blair did well that i think tony blair did well in of the election in advance of the 97 election and i think when it comes to the election next year, probably what were more likely to see is something australian Something Like the Australian Election where the election last year where the labour party won it, but not because they inspired anybody, but because they were but simply because they were seen as the least bad of a number of bad options to be perfectly blunt. And the labour party i think are probably relying on the fact that at the moment they certainly did in scotland that the snp imploded and gives them a back and that gives them a way back into scotland and relying on the fact themselves fact that the tories themselves have not convinced have imploded. Im not convinced thats i you need thats enough. I think you need to set out a bold alternative to convince people to vote for you. And not clear what labours and im not clear what labours bold alternative and i dont bold alternative is, and i dont think yet convinced think theyve yet convinced the british what British Public of what their alternative is. The tories also , well, the tories also, though, got absolutely battered. Were talking less than 4. Were talking deposit loss territory. How do you think that . Well, you are again a tory. How are you guys are again a tory. How are you guys feeling today . Are you licking wounds or do you just think, hey, its one of those things . Well, the first thing any feels day any conservative feels the day is are thrilled that is that they are thrilled that the snp got smashed and that the union and union between scotland and england safer than it was before. And credit to the labour party. They did a good job and they are a Unionist Party and they are a Unionist Party and they are a Unionist Party and they are to be preferred to the snp for just those reasons. When it comes to a vote in scotland. So congratulations to them. Ive always thought that people are struggling in this country between not having a reason to vote conservative and i dont think rishi gave them the reasons they were looking for last week. Im afraid you did. You leave that conference feeling i wasnt there . Well, i wasnt there in person, but i didnt feel that hed set out the vision and i dont see the coherence of those policies. And there was no bounce in the polls that he that he set out. I dont see that vision that was set out in those policies. And i dont think he sealed the deal and i dont think he sealed the deal. But they havent, nor have they wanted to vote for starmer , whom they find dull, changeable and willing to say anything. What i think we see maybe today , the beginning after maybe today, the beginning after the conservative Party Conference s going into the labour Party Conference. Great hinge. This elections great hinge. This elections great hinge between the two. It is just possible that people are starting to tumble onto the starmer side and saying we dont really like either of them, but we give him chance. We might give him a chance. John, one of my viewers says, we live in scotland. We are over joined the snp are on their way out. His out. Yee ha. He says thats his exact words but but steve says i live in scotland too and the labour win is just a lesser of two evils. He says. I do not think they would get as many seats as projected at the general election and he has a different view to john. He says the snp still have a massive following and another john says that he feels that nobody really won apathy one. Do you agree with that . Yeah. Yeah. So people are just bored of either all of the main parties orjust either all of the main parties or just bored of either all of the main parties orjust bored of politics more or just bored of politics more generally or what . I think its more that i dont think its necessarily that people are apathetic about politics. I think they often feel that politicians are apathetic about them, that actually they are. And this was largely , i think, what led to largely, i think, what led to the brexit vote , where you had the brexit vote, where you had millions of people in this country, particularly in what you might call small town britain, britain , beyond the britain, britain, beyond the fashionable cities and the University Towns post industrial britain, blue collar britain , britain, blue collar britain, who just felt for years that they were unrepresented at the upper echelons of british politics, who, you know, the main parties , particularly main parties, particularly dunng main parties, particularly during camerons time , and blair during camerons time, and blair and brown , just kind of and brown, just kind of coalesced around this radically progressive agenda. And ordinary, if you like, small c conservative native people out there, including lots of labour voters who regard themselves as small c conservative, didnt feel that they were represented and didnt feel that anybody spoke for them. So i think when you actually go to these places, especially working class communities, you do actually find people are interested in politics. They they do want to play politics. They they do want to play a part in debating politics. They know that politicians make decisions that affect their lives. They want some influence over that. But if youve got a Political Class that just doesnt listen to you, then then its no wonder that you do probably , you know, dip you do probably, you know, dip out of it because you think, well, the point . Well, whats the point . What did you think to and what did you think to alex where he saying alex salmond where he was saying earlier thinks earlier that he thinks humza yousaf basically couple of yousaf basically a couple of days to save his kind of leadership , to demonstrate that leadership, to demonstrate that he right person for the he is the right person for the job . Do you agree with that or not . I know. Not . Well, i dont know. Humza yousaf was but i mean, humza yousaf was put got precisely as put in and got in precisely as nicola continuity nicola sturgeons continuity candidate. Was carrying on candidate. He was carrying on the sturgeon tradition. Alex the sturgeon tradition. Alex salmond, of course, hates that because he hates everything to do with nicola sturgeon, who tried to him in jail or tried to put him in jail or whatever was going on the whatever was going on at the time on those trials that time on all those trials that were going on. Always were going on. So hes always been against hamza yusuf. I cant say what the scottish people think of him compared to other hes pursued other people, but hes pursued this government independence this government for independence s programme, whereas i think a huge number of scots in the cost of living crisis, watching ordinary functions of government fall to pieces around them would rather have a Scottish Government that was sorting out problems rather than campaigning for independence. Didnt alex salmond am i right in thinking this . This . Didnt he report rishi sunak to the police about some comments . Apparently jokes that he made about sturgeon . I believe thats the case, yes. What do you think to that . What do you think to that . Well, anyone is entitled to vote to report anything they like to the police. Its a free country. What the police what country. What the police what the police do about it, what the police do about it is another matter altogether. Says, do not count your sue says, do not count your chickens. Starmer. You think chickens. Starmer. You think that people are getting a little bit carried away with themself . Whos this . Simon says. Michelle this is why are people talking about a good victory . Look at the turnout again, he says. Basically it feels like all the labour votes voters came out, whereas everyone else perhaps stayed at home. Brian says again, youre talking to me , again, youre talking to me, michelle, about turnouts at less than 40. I would suggest that that says that uk politics as a whole basically lost lost. I always find the turnouts interesting by elections, of course, are always traditionally lower than your general election. But what do you do at all . Yeah, i was looking actually at uxbridge, the by election at uxbridge was 46. So that was a little bit higher. But yeah, anyway, i you still politically motivated . Would you politically motivated . Would you be turning out if there was a by election in your area. Never by election in your area. Never say never. They seem to be pppi9 p say never. They seem to be popping up like i dont know what these days anyway, i want to talk to you after the break about what i found such a random thing, concept that children thing, the concept that children would have supervised tooth would now have supervised tooth brushing in primary schools. What do you make of that . Is that really the job of a teacher . What about the parents in all this . You me and in all this . You tell me and ill see you. More thats going to put off some voters. Hi some voters. Hi there im Michelle Dewberry with you till seven alongside me. The tory life player in the house of lords, Daniel Moylan and the and trade and the writer and trade unionist embery. Shai, you unionist paul embery. Shai, you used to say shy tory shy labour thats what im going to start calling you. You cant really blame well, you cant really blame me after it was almost me after the last, it was almost distancing himself. Distancing himself. When i was talking earlier on when i was talking about labour, saying about labour, he was saying theyre and theyre that. Theyre this and theyre that. And i was saying, well, dont mean we the collective, we and i want speak about again want to speak about labour again because starmer has said because keir starmer has said that course hes elected that of course if hes elected he introduce supervised he wants to introduce supervised toothbrushing primary toothbrushing into primary schools in england. Ive got to schools in england. Ive got to say, and i will come to you on this one, theres something about this that makes me uncomfortable, not because i dont want kids aged 3 to 5 to have decent teeth and i want them all to be like gummy monsters. Of course, thats not what i want. I want their teeth to be in good condition. But i also believe in the role of a parent. Why is it the job of a teacher to supervise a 3 to 5 year old child brushing their teeth in school . Why isnt that kid brush their teeth before theyve even left the house to go to school . Yes, but i dont think that means that they shouldnt or they cant brush their teeth again when they are in school. I mean, i have to say, im look, i completely accept, you know, on theissue completely accept, you know, on the issue of parental responsibility, ultimate responsibility, ultimate responsibility for that sort of thing needs to rest with the parent just to make sure that the parent needs to make sure the parent needs to make sure the kid has been washed and fed and watered before they go to school theyre dressed school and that theyre dressed properly. All that. But properly. I get all of that. But at same time, you know, we at the same time, you know, we do teach kids life skills in school and we teach them about health and we teach them about hygiene. We teach them to wash their hands after theyve been to the toilet. We put them through lessons because we through pe lessons because we realise importance of it. I realise the importance of it. I can see you smirking away there. Youre not convinced . Smirking. But. But. But let me, let me finish the point. But we you know, so the precedent has been set in terms of teaching about health and hygiene. Now, we can take an ideological this, ideological approach to this, as i suspect to do, and i suspect you want to do, and say thats not the job of the state. Not the job of state. Thats not the job of teachers. Thats for the parents. But what would be the consequence of that . The consequence of that . The consequence would be consequence of that would be that worse that you would have even worse oral hygiene kids, oral hygiene amongst kids, particularly areas particularly in deprived areas where worth worse and kids where its worth worse and kids teeth fall out and kids teeth will fall out and kids will get toothache. And that will get toothache. And that will just increase the burden on an creaking dentistry an already creaking dentistry service. So whatever the ideological approach, michel, you have to look at what the consequence aces would be. So on balance, think this is balance, i think this is probably a reasonable idea. Know what . I just well, you know what . I just think is a very slippery think this is a very slippery slope. Think what youre slope. And i think what youre doing youre kind just doing is youre kind ofjust removing parental responsibility from basically what from parents. And basically what youre if youre too youre saying is if youre too bone because lets face it, bone idle because lets face it, thats is. Ive got thats what it is. Ive got a three year old and its a daily battle to get that child to brush teeth. Really , brush his teeth. Its really, really difficult. And as a parent, youre perhaps parent, when youre perhaps trying get yourself ready to trying to get yourself ready to get out as well, its a get out the door as well, its a challenge is something challenge and it is something you without, i confess. You can do without, i confess. But that is kind of your job as a parent. Where do stand on it . Daniel well, let me say i broadly agree with you, michel, but let turn the focus but let me just turn the focus for moment onto the politics for a moment onto the politics of this, because what paul was saying in an earlier segment was that still pulled that labour still hadnt pulled together or a programme together a vision or a programme for the country would for the country that would appeal to the country. Could see that this and you could see that this is is sort of you can see is this is sort of you can see them doing this badly here because talk about because they want to talk about health thats fair health policy. Thats fair enough. And they decide dentistry is a good to dentistry is a good thing to focus people cant focus on because people cant get nhs dentists. They get enough nhs dentists. They want dentistry want a they want a dentistry policy enough. Policy and thats fair enough. And one bit they put and then the one bit they put in, they listen to the Royal College of dentists and they say you the three you need to supervise the three year in the schools. They year olds in the schools. They dont teachers or dont talk to the teachers or ask the teachers unions if thats actually practical or effective. Say, no, effective. But they say, no, well into our well put that into our dentistry policy. And whats everyone theyre dentistry policy. And whats eve talking theyre dentistry policy. And whats eve talking the theyre dentistry policy. And whats eve talking the role heyre dentistry policy. And whats eve talking the role ofvre not talking about the role of dentistry in the nhs. Theyre not about how difficult not talking about how difficult it is to get free dentistry, which is what labour wants them to about. Theyre to be talking about. Theyre talking this daft idea talking about this daft idea which in by mistake because which got in by mistake because they were listening with one ear and not listening with the other and not listening with the other and replicate this and if they replicate this in terms of developing their policies nation and they policies for the nation and they end up getting into the wrong place with it like this over and over they are going to over again, they are going to seriously damage very strong seriously damage the very strong position theyve established seriously damage the very strong position electorateablished seriously damage the very strong position electorate as. Ished seriously damage the very strong position electorate as weve seen. Im very happy that weve got a conservative politician whos criticised the labour leadership for not listening to the trade unions i mean, thats unions enough. I mean, thats thats because normally, unions enough. I mean, thats that know because normally, unions enough. I mean, thats that know yourselfause normally, unions enough. I mean, thats that know yourself well, 1ormally, unions enough. I mean, thats that know yourself well, maybe, i, you know yourself well, maybe, maybe its not for me. I listen to trade unions. I think trade unions, no, but have a role to play in representing workers views. One of the criticisms of starmer and generally any labour leader that theyre leader in fact, is that theyre in pocket the unions. In the pocket of the unions. They much to the they listen too much to the unions. So i think well, they havent. Listened to the they theyve listened to the they havent unions havent listened to the unions enough on this. What i would say in but what i would say in defence of starmer on this, they cant control media cant control the media narrative. They come narrative. So if they come fonnard with they didnt have to say did say it, did they . They about it. They come fonnard with a general programme, which i think is a creditable where is a creditable one, where they highlight the major highlight ing the major deficiencies within the dentistry the moment. Dentistry service at the moment. Fact that weve got so the fact that weve got so many living pain, the many People Living in pain, the fact that weve some people fact that weve got some people who imagine who have resorted diy, imagine telling this telling Alistair Cameron if this is aspect it and the is one aspect of it and the media plucked this out, they cant really control that. Is the states en is it the states job en masse the parent . Masse to become the parent . No, but i dont i dont think the state is becoming the parent on occasion. I what on this occasion. I think what the is is saying we the state is doing is saying we can supplement Good Parenting at home teach home where parents teach their kids their teeth kids how to brush their teeth properly make sure that they properly and make sure that they do it. And what harm will it do if also do that in school and if we also do that in school and we i go back to what we add to it . I go back to what i say. Are you sending parents . Youre do you youre sending parents . Do you know you cant be know what . If you cant be bothered to brush your kids teeth and you know what . People say . Cost of say . Well, michelle, is cost of living come off it. Who living crisis. Come off it. Who pushes back . Im with look, and im with you. Look, im with laziness im with you with you. Laziness im with you on that. Youre condoning your party is laziness. And if is condoning laziness. And if you when comes to you condone it when it comes to toothbrush thing, narrative toothbrush thing, that narrative will because parent will spread because a parent will spread because a parent will and will sit there and think, i dont need to train my kid dont need to potty train my kid school will it. Dont need school will do it. I dont need to my kids teeth. School to brush my kids teeth. School will down and down will do it. And down and down and down and down. Those standards will fall when it becomes when comes to lazy becomes when it comes to lazy parents. And youre condoning that encouraging that and almost encouraging it. No, i dont think this no, because i dont think this is simply about the state stepping becoming the parent. Go back to what i said. You i go back to what i said. You know, teach kids about good know, we teach kids about good hygiene. Them about hygiene. We teach them about good make them do pe good health. We make them do pe lessons because its important that would say, why are that no one would say, why are you my kid fit, you know, you making my kid fit, you know, Fitter School and teaching fitter at school and teaching them, about them, teaching them about physical education because youre physical education because yot my physical education because yotmy role physical education because yolmy role parent. Physical education because yotmy role parent. And on my role as a parent. And i think that a similar principle is brushing your childrens teeth at school. Interested. Well, look, im interested. Well, look, im interested. Teacher at school . Are you a teacher at school . Do you actually see this as your job . Because as i understand it, the pressure is on you guys apparently. This what apparently. Is this what you think should doing with think you should be doing with your dont know. Maybe your time . I dont know. Maybe your time . I dont know. Maybe you im wrong. Richard you think im wrong. Richard says is sign things to says this is a sign of things to come. State gets come. If the nanny state gets in, phil says, michelle, youd be horrified. And some kids, they their teeth. They dont brush their teeth. They dont they dont they dont wash. They dont wash. The clothes wash. They wear the same clothes week well, then week in, week out. Well, then you what i think does . You know what i think phil does . Parents be getting parents should be getting a knock on their door because if you honestly, honestly not you honestly, honestly are not responsible to wash your responsible enough to wash your own then im sorry, own children, then im sorry, but ill questioning whether but ill be questioning whether or be or not you should even be parents, quite frankly. Anyway look, do you know before look, do you know what . Before i get horse, dont even get on my high horse, dont even get on my high horse, dont even get on my high horse, dont even get on this topic. Get me started on this topic. Thats what i will say. Im going to some of your going to bring some of your thoughts in after the break. But also i to ask you, should also i want to ask you, should local allowed local communities be allowed to ban second ownership . Yes ban second Home Ownership . Yes or dont forget as well, or no . Dont forget as well, john cleese, the legend will be keeping me company the keeping me company before the end program. If youve end of the program. So if youve got any questions for him, stick them ill try them on the email and ill try and to him. Ill see news radio show. News radio show. Hi there. Im Michelle Dewberry with you till 7 00. The concert live life peer in the house of lords. Daniel moylan is alongside me, as is the writer and trade unionist paul embery. Lots of you guys getting in touch about that last topic , touch about that last topic, about whether or not its the teachers job to get kids to brush their teeth. Charlie on twitter says, our daughters teacher dental teacher used to be a dental nurse and she gave them a tooth brushing lesson just yesterday. Brushing lesson just yesterday. They red dye and they loved using the red dye and seeing whose teeth were the cleanest. And that seems to have cleanest. And that seems to have resonated. You have of resonated. You have sparks of memory in actually, with resonated. You have sparks of meniiry in actually, with resonated. You have sparks of meni remember actually, with resonated. You have sparks of meni remember having ly, with resonated. You have sparks of meni remember having those h me, i remember having those tablets. What were called . Tablets. What were they called . Like disclosure tablets or something. You them. Something. And you chewed them. Show the plaque up they would show the plaque up on you. See yeah. See yeah. See yeah. See yeah. Is that still a thing . Yeah. Is that still a thing . You to get a badge and you used to get a badge when you went the dentist. When you went to the dentist. And if you were a good boy and girl and stuff, didnt you remember . Yeah. Jane linda saying goodness whats to goodness me, whats going to be next . To do next . Teachers having to do potty training, manjeet says, i taught kids in japan and the kids to their teeth kids had to brush their teeth every for a short while every day for a short while after lunch. Was after their lunch. It was absolutely fine. The kids, the parents and teachers didnt parents and the teachers didnt mind, say that their mind, and they say that their society over there in japan is much healthier than ours. Point much healthier than ours. Point stephens got a good point. As well. Michelle, if this is the teachers job to help these children brush their teeth and the child gets tooth decay, was that would that be caused by neglect at the school . Could those parents then sue the school . Cor blimey. Opens up school . Cor blimey. Opens up a minefield, isnt it . Lets move on. A village in norfolk has become the latest tourist hotspot to van. Sorry to ban second Home Ownership. Second Home Ownership. Apparently the locals complained that the village was left like a ghost town in winter and that locals cant afford to buy or rent in the area. This is not the first time this has happened. Where do you stand on this topic, daniel well , first this topic, daniel well, first of all, they havent banned second ownership second Home Ownership because they power to do so. So. But theyre trying to put planning conditions on new homes that so that theyd that are built. So that theyd only be available for local people, which you can sort of try and get away with. But my real question is, how many new homes are they actually building . Very often building . Because very often its areas, these sort of its these areas, these sort of areas that dont want outsiders areas that dont want outsiders are the ones who are also not building homes to accommodate out demand and even their own demand. So i think the answer to demand. So i think the answer to this is not banning people from buying homes , but building more buying homes, but building more homes in places where people want to live because its attractive. And thats what they should be doing. The idea should be doing. And the idea that you know, these people, oh, theyre rich people and they swan in from nonnich , an awful swan in from nonnich, an awful lot people. The idea of a lot of people. The idea of a Little Cottage by the sea , a Little Cottage by the sea, a Little Cottage by the sea, a little little house by the sea little a little house by the sea or something, its something you could years for, to could have saved years for, to have perfect, ordinary people. And idea that its all sort and the idea that its all sort of rich millionaires wandering in and theyre all bad people doesnt reflect the reality of , doesnt reflect the reality of, of our coastal towns and of our of our coastal towns and our countryside towns. Our countryside towns. What i always find interesting is when these communities are so angry about londoners moving in or whoever it is, is why dont they look inwards to their own communities and ask those communities, why are selling your properties are you selling your properties to these second home owners . So rather than focusing your anger at the people wanting to purchase , surely its the locals purchase, surely its the locals themselves that are trying desperately to get the highest price and price for their property and thus selling them on . I think there are all well, i think there are all sorts of reasons why somebody is selling a home. You know, they may have retired, they may want to abroad. They have had to go abroad. They may have had a job and needs to go a change of job and needs to go to another part of the country. I think you can, you know, i dont think you can, you know, put blame people put the blame on people for selling up. But i have sympathy with these people in these places you places because the truth is, you said in the said it yourself in the introduction to the item. Lot introduction to the item. A lot of these places are ghost towns in mean, ive been to in winters. I mean, ive been to some of these places. They are quite desolate places actually in but nice but in winter, but nice places, but theres nobody there. You theres just nobody there. You drive along a street and the drive along a street and all the lights are off because, you know, theyre second and know, theyre second homes and theres those theres nobody in those particular in those particular youre not of a criminal mindset then, isnt it driving past all of these empty thats a yeah, thats legitimate point. And thats a legitimate point. And i think, you know, i feel for the younger these Younger Generation in these places the places as well, because the pnces places as well, because the prices invariably up prices are invariably pushed up because the demand people prices are invariably pushed up because to the demand people prices are invariably pushed up because to buy demand people prices are invariably pushed up because to buy these 1d people prices are invariably pushed up because to buy these secondeople wanting to buy these second homes. Means that homes. And that means that younger cant get on the younger people cant get on the ladden i younger people cant get on the ladder. I theres ladder. But i think theres a broader point as well about the fact that we do today live in a very kind of fast moving globalised world where people and jobs and industries are moving around very , very quickly moving around very, very quickly and i think that that has fragmented community a lot. I think it atomised a sense of community and people kind of feel violated by that. And i think there are lots of people around today who do sort of hanker after that old sense of community that that sense of neighbourliness, common neighbourliness, those common bonds, that sense that we bonds, that that sense that we do our neighbours and we do know our neighbours and we walk we can walk down the street, we can have with people, have conversations with people, those human those everyday sort of Human Interaction happens. So when they see their area changing very rapidly and people coming in who you know, dont have any skin in the game in terms of the community, they just use it as a place to kind of hang out at weekends. I think people have got a right to feel a little bit resentful about that. And i dont blame them for it. Ian says. If youre going to be talking about banning second homes, can we start homes, michelle, can we start with plus properties with the 600 plus properties that are owned by mps that have these second homes, often paid for by us, the taxpayer . Yeah, for by us, the taxpayer . Yeah, interesting point there. Um, interesting point there. Um, yeah. Again annie, shes saying that she is a regular visitor to burnham market. She qualifies as well. That it is like a ghost town. She backs up what youre saying, max again , hes saying saying, max again, hes saying the same thing in about cornwall. He wants a ban on second Home Ownership or he wants to treble their council tax. Goodness gracious me, wants to treble their council tax. Goodness gracious me, julia says, michelle, please, can you stop thinking that everybody is like you . If surely, god forbid, like you . If surely, god forbid, i know. Well, i dont know what i know. Well, i dont know what the world would be like. Quite frankly, im not sure id wish it on any of you if everyone was like me. But anyway, she says, sometimes school is the only place that those kids may get their cleaned. So why their teeth cleaned. So why are you it . Youre saying you against it . Youre saying lack parents a huge issue . Lack of parents is a huge issue . Well i would that, but well i would say to that, but there shouldnt be such a thing as a lack of parenting if youre not prepared to parent your children. Question children. I would question whether those children whether or not those children should removed in your should be removed in your custody. And i say that, regrettably child, that regrettably as a child, that i myself the social myself was on the social Services Risk register when services at risk register when i was at school. So i do know a little thing or two about of which anyway, lets which i speak. Anyway, lets move because jubrey is move on because jubrey tavern is about open and this time, about to open and this time, yes, guys are yes, these two guys are fascinating, but ive got an absolute legend keeping me company as well. None other than the man, the legend, john cleese. In two. Hello there. Im Michelle Dewberry keeping you company till 7 00. The conservative life peerin till 7 00. The conservative life peer in the house of lords, Daniel Moylan, alongside me, as is the writer and trade unionist , paul embery. Know the , paul embery. You know the drill on friday jubilee tavern drill on a friday jubilee tavern opens , so cheers to you is the opens, so cheers to you is the start of the weekend. Mm start of the weekend. Cheers. Mm but i need to do a second. Cheers. Because i have an additional guest alongside me. Not only is he an additional guest is a new face on this program. He is also had the most program. He is also had the most glamorous choice of drink that anyone has ever selected. When the jubilee tavern has ever been opened. If you look at that john cleese welcome described to the viewers what it is that youre drinking. Its a margarita, but its made not with tequila, but with mezcal, which is a slightly smoky kind of tequila. And its the best taste. The best taste. Well, cheers to that. Well, cheers to that. Well, cheers to that. Well, im very touched because i saw andrew doyle yesterday for dinner , and i yesterday for dinner, and i ordered this. And when i got to ordered this. And when i got to the studio, i was given it. I thought that was very thoughtful. And how many marks out of ten would you give the producer thats made that for you tonight . Oh always thinking about it. Were talking about eight and a half, i think. Eight and a half. Well, they go whoever made that, if it all goes wrong, esteemed guest, because we get a pint of lager. Yeah, they get a pint. Yeah, they get a pint. Whats this thing about choice and offer. I know they just get well i know. On. Lets get lets move on. Lets get a hold of this before dinner with the producer. Night before. We havent the night before. We havent been invited, sir. Reason that john cleese, the reason that you me company you are keeping me company tonight not just the free tonight is not just for the free margarita, but you are, of course, joining news course, joining the gb news family. Am dinosaur. Anna, family. I am the dinosaur. Anna, is tell us. Tell is your program. Tell us. Tell us more. Richard well, they came to me a few months ago and made me the months ago and they made me the most extraordinary offer thats ever made to anyone in the ever been made to anyone in the history of television. They said, would you like to do ten shows . You can do whatever you like. Can you shows . You can do whatever you like. Can you imagine the bbc doing that . No, i cannot. You know, they say subject to the committee a and then after committee a and then after committee , theyve approved it. Committee, theyve approved it. You go to committee, they said you can do anything. And i had no interference of any kind. Its been a joy, joyful. And ive been able to do 1 or 2 things. I wanted to try on Television Like , what . Television like, what . You give us any hints . Can you give us any hints . Can you give us any hints . One of them is this well, one of them is this kind of set up. I mean, this is now set up for now the standard set up for television and its good for this program. But for a lot of this program. But for a lot of programs, you want something a bit different. So ive got people sitting in armchairs talking to each other much closer because if you and i are talking like this , it becomes talking like this, it becomes more interesting and intimate than if im back here sort of slightly shouting at you. It does. But this is the sort of thing that designers dont understand because designers , as understand because designers, as you know well, they become designers basically because they cant read an and but youre saying thats why theres no signage in hotels. Thats why. Signage in hotels. Thats why. Because the designers dont like signage. Signage. Your set is a castle. Your set is a castle. Actually, yes. If i if i am insane , its a huge castle that insane, its a huge castle that was built, i think in i think it was built, i think in i think it was 1266. It was built. No, maybe he was 1166 because King King John was 1166 because King King John was involved. But they found was involved. But they found a wonderful room there and they set it up as a sort of slightly lunatic, gentle mens club. And we have a lot of cats, Gentlemens Club in the castle. Gentlemens club in the castle. Are women allowed in . Are women allowed in . Oh, yes. Yes. Oh, yes. Yes. Oh, yes. Yes. Oh, yes. Yes. Oh, hes a bit too excited about that prospect. Got three nuns. Oh, have ive got three nuns. Oh, have you now . You now . Interesting. And how has it been becoming part of the gb news family . Good experience. News family . Good experience. A very nice bunch. We. Ive a very nice bunch. We. Ive never worked with nicer team. Never worked with a nicer team. Are you . And i mean that. Have got your fingers have you got your fingers crossed . Legs are not crossed . Your legs are not crossed. I can vouch for that. Its a lovely atmosphere out there because the think humans there because the i think humans are when theyre are much happier when theyre working smaller groups. Working in smaller groups. And when vast, go to the when it gets vast, you go to the bbc. These vast buildings, bbc. Now, these vast buildings, nobody seems to know who anyone is, know what i mean . And is, you know what i mean . And its much more personal here because people nobody knows everyone. Go to on join because people nobody knows ev organisation, go to on join because people nobody knows ev organisation, join o on join because people nobody knows ev organisation, join them join because people nobody knows ev organisation, join them at| an organisation, join them at the beginning. Yes. Because thats when everyone knows whats going on. And then as it gets and departmental gets bigger and departmental ized, becomes less personal. Ized, it becomes less personal. So when can viewers catch your program then . Whens it going to be aired . I think its sunday, the 29th of october. What time . 9 00. Of october. What time . 9 00. Good so we can use bad language. I insisted on to that, by the way. So i was pleased that you did, too, because that is good. You passed the first test. And listen, you are not slowing down at all because it is not just gb news and the dinosaur hour that youre doing, which i cannot wait. Sneak preview wait. Ive had a sneak preview as who some of guests as to who some of the guests are, which not mentioning are, which were not mentioning on this program tonight. Were going keep it a secret. Those going to keep it a secret. Those details follow imminently. Details will follow imminently. But seen the list and but ive seen the cast list and its fabulous. So ill definitely watching definitely be watching it. Odd, which and its slightly odd, which i like very much because it means were not take ourselves too know . Too seriously, you know . Well, you want to know oh, well, if you want to know who on Johns Program sunday who is on Johns Program sunday at that is when well be at 7 00, that is when well be we will be unveiling. Know what we will be unveiling. Know what im saying . We will be unveiling. Know what im saying . Youre shaun bailey one next week were unveiling your guests at seven this sunday. You and then you will be unleashed at 9 00 to the nation the following sunday. I always after my 84th birthday. Is it . Is it . Is it . Yeah. Well, its my birthday on monday, actually. Really . Yes i. I digress, though, because you wait a moment. Are you a libra or scorpio . Libra. Not a very balanced one, though i must confess, i think something has gone wrong there in my wiring. Something has gone wrong there in runbalanced. Unbalanced. Unbalanced. Yeah, do. I do. So you say yeah, i do. I do. So you say that you are approaching 84 and you are absolutely slowing you are absolutely not slowing down. Hour. Weve down. So dinosaur hour. Weve just about and just been talking about and i want show you one of the want to show you one of the funniest clips of your previous work that i think ive ever seen. Let me remind myself, my viewers of this, what i would say hilarious moments. Say hilarious moments. I want to be a woman from now on. I want you all to call me loretta. What its my right as a man. Man. Why do you want to be a retest . Retest . I want to have babies. You i want to have babies. You want to have babies . Its every mans right to have babies if he wants them. But you cant have babies. Wants them. But you cant have babies. Dont you oppress me . Im not oppressing you, stamp you. Ive got a womb. Wheres you. Ive got a womb. Wheres the foetus gonna gestate . Youre gonna keep it in a box. See i find that hilarious. And john, i dont know if the microphones was up there, but john was also laughing. And this is the thing i find that hilarious is that is, of course, in in 1987, i thought it was 77, 77. I was going to say, i thought it was early. I thought my five years ago. I thought my five years ago. So it was pretty pressing, wasnt it . And youre bringing life of bnan and youre bringing life of brian back as a stage play, as stage. I mean, working on it today. I mean, working on it today. And what i find quite interesting is that scene that ive played there, as ive just played there, as i understand , a couple of understand it, a couple of actors have when they was actors have said when they was reading script that they reading the script that they were massively comfortable were not massively comfortable with that scene. Was was worse with that scene. That. Was was worse with that scene. That. Wa had was worse with that scene. That. Wa had to; worse with that scene. That. Wahad to read se than that. We had to read through in new york with some very good, distinguished very good, very distinguished actors and actors whod won tonys and all this thing. At the this kind of thing. And at the end of the read through, they said, its wonderful script, end of the read through, they saidyou; wonderful script, end of the read through, they saidyou; wc do erful script, end of the read through, they saidyou; wcdo that. Script, end of the read through, they saidyou; wcdo that. Andt, but you cant do that. And i said, what do you mean we cant do that . They said, you wont get away with it. And said, get away with it. And i said, well, whats going happen . Well, whats going to happen . Are burn the are they going to burn the theatre down . And we are going to do it . So that is in oh, yes, yes, it was only a bit of misreporting because no one in british checks British Journalism checks anything. Details . Details. Well, brief. Well, im on my im on my brief. Ive well, im on my im on my brief. Pve the well, im on my im on my brief. Ive the details, thats ive got the details, so thats good. Confirm that. Good. So we can confirm that. Loretta, loretta that you loretta, stan, loretta that you know was called loretta . Why Marty Feldmans wife. Why Marty Feldmans wife. Why Marty Feldmans wife. Right. Well, loretta , i oh, right. Well, loretta, i love that scene. What about the crucifixion scene at the end . Yes. Is that still going be yes. Is that still going to be there or. Dont think so. I dont i dont think so. I dont think we should do because i dont think so. I dont thirdidie should do because i dont think so. I dont thirdid it should do because i dont think so. I dont thirdid it 451uld do because i dont think so. I dont thirdid it 45 yearsa because i dont think so. I dont thirdid it 45 years ago. Because i dont think so. I dont thirdid it 45 years ago. And ause i dont think so. I dont thirdid it 45 years ago. And it1se we did it 45 years ago. And it was very, very shocking and funny. But 45 years later , it funny. But 45 years later, it doesnt carry exactly the same punch. Soi doesnt carry exactly the same punch. So i decided that i ought to try and change it because Michael Palin said to me , dont Michael Palin said to me, dont he said our audience would expect it. And i said, michael, expect it. And i said, michael, what was the last time that python did what their audience expected . Well, that is a very interesting point. And Fawlty Towers, lots of people have contacted us about Fawlty Towers. Youre also bringing that back as well. Well, we started my daughter and i have started writing that, but its a only a glint in the eye. Unfortunately, they made a sort press release much, much sort of press release much, much too everyone got too early. So everyone got excited about it before it really existed. This is your daughter, camilla. Thats right. Yes, thats right. All right. All right. So a stand up comedian. So shes a stand up comedian. So shes a stand up comedian. Yeah , i was was reading yeah, i was i was reading about and saying about how about you and saying about how much writing much fun you was having writing it together. There was someone else involved as well. So. So were not having a new Fawlty Towers . Yes. Are. Oh, we are. It will you are. Oh, we are. It will be set probably in the caribbean. And well be making it probably years it probably in a years time at most. The pilot most. Maybe well do the pilot before that in the meantime, were doing a musical, a fish called wanda. And of brian called wanda. And life of brian and written and camilla. And i have written and camilla. And i have written a very film script , and camilla. And i have written a very film script, which a very funny film script, which we were going to make , we think were going to make, which lookalikes. And which is called lookalikes. And its about hollywood its all about the hollywood lookalikes. But the lookalikes lookalikes. But the lookalikes are played by the original stars , right . So that Arnold Schwarzenegger is playing his own lookalike , right. And keeps own lookalike, right. And keeps hurting himself. Proposal still not following you in the. Yeah, well, yeah. Well, no, he sold the whole tell i think my daughter and i are still arguing but i think he sold the hotel and has come to live with his daughter right. I mean ive got to say from sybil presumed she got divorced from sybil. From sybil. Well, yes. Well, yes. Well, yes. Well, i think i think its funnier if shes dead. Clive othennise shell be around. And othennise shell be around. And you know what i mean. One of my viewers, if camillas mother in the show is somebody different than she can turn up later, which just gives us more comic possibilities. One of my viewers, clive, i mean, lots of viewers have written in asking about the new Fawlty Towers. So you guys have had your question answered there. Clive says, whats johns opinion on the pc brigade . He calls it going after some of your back catalogue. Hes mentioning Fawlty Towers as well i i i think theres a theres a good part to woke and a bad part. Whats the good part . Whats the good part . The good part is that its a goodidea the good part is that its a good idea to be kind and nice to people. And some people think thats is. And theres thats all it is. And theres also a threatening side, also quite a threatening side, almost a totalitarian side. I mean , i want to discuss issues mean, i want to discuss issues on the program i just made on the dinosaur tower and we couldnt get people on because they would say one woman said even to discuss it is wrong. Its wrong even to discuss it. In other words, they just want us to accept all their ideas and theyre not prepared to discuss them. Do you think can just ask do you think can i just ask john, do think that fawlty john, do you think that Fawlty Towers, if it were written today, particularly the episode about with about that classic episode with the germans, example . The germans, for example . No problem with it. Would that be commissioned today, do you think . Probably not, no, because it would go from committee to Committee Committee at the committee to committee at the bbc and somebody would object because its all their strength comes in, their ability to get people fired. People fired. And 1 1 University Professor from oregon told me that more people have been fired during the woke period than were than were fired during mccarthyism in the 50s. And they go after people. And an awful lot of people. And an awful lot of people are very, very scared of them, which is why people with higher profile have to discuss it and theyre not frightened of getting fired. Most people are getting fired. Most people are getting a very frightened of getting a very frightened of getting fired. And people getting fired. And the people who employ them are frightened of getting fired. And then that end of woke is not very nice. And its also psycho logically unsound because young people suffer so much now with anxiety and depression and the very , and depression and the very, very therapies that work best, the cognitive behavioural therapy, which is really helping young people, is the opposite principles that are laid out by the woke extremists. Its the woke extremists. Its harmful in those cases , daryl says. Do you agree that the smallest minority is the individual . Smallest minority is the individual . Deeper, meaningful questions on jobs . What can say . I say . I dont know how to say that. Its rather interesting. And yes, there you go , daryl. And yes, there you go, daryl. Interesting question. But he says, yes, bruce says, can you ask john cleese why he told Douglas Adams that 42 was the funniest number . Well, it is the funniest number. Why . Well, Graham Chapman and i, when we were at cambridge, we wrote a parody of a sermon in a church of england sermon. And at the end out of sermon. And at the end out of the blue, the vicar says hymn 42, an end game. And i argued for a long time about which was the funnier number. But theres something about the number 42. And then Douglas Adams used it in hitchhike. Well, ongc is indeed making him chuckle. Im trying to whiz through as many of your viewer questions. Eric says. If you were ever going to found a political party, what would you call it . Oh, silly party. The silly party. The silly party. Well, there you go. What is well, there you go. What is your wendy says, whats your opinion on the current state of the comedy scene, given the current culture . We seem to be living in . Well, i think its very sad that. Well, i think its very sad that. The bbc well, i think its very sad that. The bbc 19 905 well, i think its very sad that. The bbc 19 90s produced. I that. The bbc 19 90s produced. I was reading the list the other day, 31 really good comedies were on the bbc during that penod were on the bbc during that period of ten years and they were all good, you know. And now were all good, you know. And now the comedy and i dont know because i dont watch Much Television anymore, but i ask a lot of friends and they and cab drivers and all that lot and they all say theres nothing funny on. And its because the people charge have no idea people in charge have no idea how to control comedy dodi or rather they have no idea how to nurture it because they try to control it, because they think they know what theyre doing. And my experience since many years tv is that the years in tv is that the executives very , very seldom executives very, very seldom know what theyre doing. But it know what theyre doing. But it didnt matter in the old days because they allowed the talented people to get on with it. And then Griff Rhys Jones it. And then as Griff Rhys Jones wrote about 20 years ago, then they themselves, as the executives, wanted become the executives, wanted to become the stars. Thats when all the stars. And thats when all the creativity went downhill very quickly. Quickly. Because look at time flies, doesnt it . Were having fun, colin says. What comedy has most influenced you . Influenced you . Goon show . Goon show . Yeah. There you go, kitty , yeah. There you go, kitty, says michelle, this is not a question, but please, can you tell mr cleese thank you so, so, so, so much for all of the laughs that he has brought all of us all over the years. Ive of us all over the years. Ive made an extraordinarily valuable contribution to civilisation , contribution to civilisation, not only the most sophisticated dnnken not only the most sophisticated drinker, but also one of the most modest men ive ever had on my panel. By the way, we cant finish because proud of my modesty, time is almost gone. But before we go, can you just give a shout out to paul embrys young son who is a massive fan of yours, is watching tonight . Nick. Nick, im delighted that you im pleased. Tell all your im pleased. Tell all your friends because all the young people dont know about monty. Well, his son does know, but they dont. When . When we did they dont. When . When we did the at the o2 and parents the show at the o2 and parents took their children, the children this funny. Why children said this is funny. Why didnt about it . And didnt we not know about it . And the is because bbc the answer is because the bbc havent put it out for over 20 years. Well, there you go. Bring bring it all bring back, bring it all compulsory in my house. Well, look, i think to make something gets families something that gets families laughing together is great. Every good pub strict every good pub has strict closing times and mine is no different. So very sadly that is all weve got time for. Thank you to the team you cant see what hes doing next to me. What hes doing next to me. Thank you. I am off next week, everybody. Ill see you the following week. Have a good one. And thank you to the man to the legend. Have a good weekend. And i dont know what hes doing. No idea. Oh, goodbye on mark dolan tonight. Tonight. In my big opinion, my first on air reaction to rishi sunak Conference Speech compared to the one i wrote for him earlier in the week. In my take a ten football legend, kevin keegan is the latest victim of the woke mob for saying men nine oh oh. Welcome to the andersons real world. Tonight on the show, we have got louis french, a conservative mp. Hes got this left in the corner with him tonight. And thats matthew lazor, the former Labour Party Policy advisor. Also got the former model and big brother star ashlyn Horgan Wallace got pubuc star ashlyn Horgan Wallace got Public Policy expert at thats lucy white, her first time on the show. Weve also got colin brown. Hes a tv cook , celebrity brown. Hes a tv cook, celebrity personality and hes back. Gary the cabbie, hes back to speak some common sense. But first, lets go to the