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Sondheim theatre in to london a halt. Five people have been arrested. The protesters were not welcomed warmly by the audience. You know , youre not audience. You know, youre not keeping. Keeping. Just dont get it. Do they record high rents . The average rent outside of london has risen to almost £1,300 a month. To almost £1,300 a month. And well be telling you all our gossip from the conservative Party Conference. Thats first one. I think it was probably my 33rd one. I was trying to work it out there. I dont think it really was. Was it the first time you came home in a minibus, though . It certainly was. The first one came and can tell came in first. And can i tell you the last to thank you, you the last time to thank you, rmt. Oh, it was aslef, wasnt it . Wasnt no. We came back it . Wasnt it . No. We came back in a very jolly peoples carrier. We are a people carrier. We are a people carrier. We are a people carrier. We the peoples champion. Definitely minibus. It its definitely a minibus. It was a mini. We will show you some pictures of our gb news trip but let us know your trip home, but let us know your thoughts morning we thoughts this morning as we reflect conservative reflect on what the conservative party told you over the last three days. Vaiews gbnews. Com is first, is the email address. First, though, the very latest is the email address. First, thougwith the very latest is the email address. First, thougwith. The very latest is the email address. First, thougwith. Rihannaery latest news with. Rihanna bev thank you. Good morning. Its 932. Your top stories from the newsroom. The Prime Minister the newsroom. The Prime Minister said to urge leaders to join forces to tackle illegal migration and protect europes borders from criminal gangs. Borders from criminal gangs. Rishi sunak is travelling to spain a day after almost 700 migrants arrived on the Canary Islands in wooden boats. Heads of state and european president s are meeting in granada for a summit. Hes are meeting in granada for a summit. Hes keen to get illegal migration on the agenda. Downing streets also expected to announce initiatives to increase intelligence sharing and operational cooperation with belgium , bulgaria and serbia. Belgium, bulgaria and serbia. Rent prices for homes have increased to the highest level on record , and the average on record, and the average charge for a property excluding london is now almost £1,300 a month. Its the 15th consecutive quarter that the records have been broken in the capital, average rents rose to more than £2,600 per month. The research by rightmove also shows demand is higher with properties receiving 25 inquiries compared to eight before the pandemic. To eight before the pandemic. Like the transport secretary says , cancelling hs2 will allow says, cancelling hs2 will allow investments that fit the needs of the country. Its after the Prime Minister announced the northern leg of the high speed rail line has been scrapped. Former Prime Minister Boris Johnson and former Prime Minister David Cameron both criticised the decision , saying criticised the decision, saying that a once in a Generation Opportunity has been lost. That a once in a Generation Opportunity has been lost. Mark harper told gb news the facts have changed. Every penny that we save from cancelling that thats £36 billion and reinvest ing every penny across the north, the midlands and the rest of the country on important transport, transport, infrastructure that the people of this country want. So i think thats just changing what were investing still investing in transport, but having investments that fit the needs of the country and recognise the facts have changed about the cost of hs2. About the cost of hs2. And a watchdog says southern water and thames water received the most complaints from customers over the past year. Customers over the past year. The Consumer Council for water says the more than 20 Million People served by the two firms were being let down by their failure to understand and deal with the high levels of complaints. Theyve been complaints. Theyve been labelled standout at poor performers with southern water getting almost three times more complaints than average for water and sewerage companies. As water and sewerage companies. As you can get more on all of those stories by visiting our website gb news. Com. Stories by visiting our website gbnews. Com. Now its back over to andrew and. Bev very good to andrew and. Bev very good morning to you. So before we get into rishi sunak speech, we just want to share with you, our viewers, our experience of being at the conservative Party Conference. This is the glamorous journey back. Liam halligan. You back. Thats Liam Halligan. You can see there on the left of your screen, catherine forster, our political reporter. Me in the pink suit, Andrew Pierce, just poking his head up behind Liam Halligan of tv. Liam halligan there, head of tv. Ben brisco in the middle, and tom hannood just peeping out from that is no expense from behind that is no expense spared, no expense spared. Are definitely the we are definitely the peoples channel. That was not glamorous, unglamorous , i would glamorous, unglamorous, i would say. Actually. It took a very long time that journey. Thank you aslef Drivers Union you. Aslef train Drivers Union for causing chaos. At least. At for causing chaos. At least. At least we didnt have to go up. I went up on friday to avoid the train strike train, but we got back in one piece and it would be fair to say quite a lot was imbibed. Imbibed. Well, there was a few tins of gin and tonic consumed on the journey back, which frankly, wed all been working very hard for a few days, very long days, i think we deserved it. I think. I think we deserved it. I was amazed see Liam Halligan that big, strapping, six drinking six foot four irish drinking all the tonics. What the pink gin and tonics. What was about . Was that about . Right. So lets look at the highlights of the conference. Rishi sunak announced some of what he describes as radical all policies. Labour party have set out their stall to do and say as little as possible and hopes no one notices they want to take peoples votes for granted and keep doing politics. The same old way. So if this country is to change, then it can only be us who will deliver it today , i us who will deliver it today, i will set out how we will achieve this, beginning with a set of long term decisions to build a Brighter Future for our children and to fundamentally change our country. We. The word change country. We. The word change many times in that speech because what hes trying to do is reinvent himself and the tory party have been in power for 13, nearly 14 years. Trying to say, im new, hes trying to say, im new, ive got a new vision and actually, i think it was a good speech because hes not a brilliant orator. Lets be honest. No, it was i think there was it was a good speech. A lot in it. There was was a lot in it. There was there was a lot in it. There was there was a lot in it. And a good speech. It it. And it was a good speech. It was very engaging. Obviously, having akshata murphy, having his wife akshata murphy, to i found a little to start with, i found a little odd, i have say, and she odd, i have to say, and she spoke too and she spoke spoke for too long and she spoke for way too long. And if that if having her on stage was designed to humanise him, itjust kind of gave was gave the impression that she was super actually sort of super posh and actually sort of confirmed that hes confirmed the idea that hes from a billionaire family and im nobody likes their im sorry, nobody likes their husband much. Nobody likes husband that much. Nobody likes their my their husband that much. Hes my best amazing. Come on. On. Yeah. Why didnt she say he never the washing yeah, never does the washing up . Yeah, he drying up or he never does the drying up or he never does the drying up or he always leaves his pants on the floor, that sort of thing. Yes. Because what happens with be relatable. With would be relatable. Let us know yeah. Yeah. But let us know what thought it. What you thought of it. Vaiews gbnews. Com here. What you thought of it. Gb\former|bnews. Com here. What you thought of it. Gb\formerlabour om here. What you thought of it. Gb\ former labourcom simon. What you thought of it. Gb\ former labourcom simon. As former labour mp simon. As a labour looking at that labour man looking at that conference, do conference, how well do you think he did . I think he did quite well. If im being objective and fair about this, not tribal. Yeah, i think did pretty well. His think you did pretty well. His backs yeah backs against the wall. Yeah hes fighting. Hes got hes come out fighting. Hes got people the room that want his people in the room that want his job. Hes made a job. Yeah. And hes made a speech and talking about his tone and everything else. I actually thought that listening to like to him, he sounded a bit like tony he had. You were tony blair. He had. You were right. Actually hes not a very good orator. Good orator. I think theres a problem. I think theres a problem. Mike simon so were going to get that fixed because we want to from you have to to hear from you. You have to hear a bit more. Lets say from rishi sunak. Well, my highlight hear a bit more. Lets say from rishthe nak. Well, my highlight hear a bit more. Lets say from rishthe speech. L, my highlight hear a bit more. Lets say from rishthe speech. They highlight hear a bit more. Lets say from rish the speech. The two ghlight was the speech. The two speeches, which were a great success, were Kemi Badenoch rish, the home secretarys Suella Braverman braverman. And i think rishi sunak delivered a pretty good speech. I think i do think he did a good speech. I mean, we were joking the fact that we joking about the fact that we had early. We sorry, we had left early. We sorry, we left the minibus. Thats left in the minibus. Thats because a lot of people had left early of obviously early because of obviously the massive train strike yesterday. So centre itself so the Conference Centre itself was the hall was was quieter, but the hall was packed sunak his packed when rishi sunak gave his speech. Obviously he introduced on by penny mordaunt, who on stage by penny mordaunt, who did a tubthumping military esque sort of introduction which pitching for the leadership 14 times. Weve got simon township back. Youre miked up. Simon yeah. So youre saying from an objective point of view, yeah, from an objective view he performed particularly well. Is back is up against the wall and hes come out fighting. Hes got people in the room that want his job. Suella braverman and others. And yet hes come and others. And yet hes come out made a quite a good speech. We talked about the tone of his speech. I we talked about the tone of his speech. I think he sounded a little bit like tony blair actually , in terms making the actually, in terms of making the speech. Not a great orator, speech. Hes not a great orator, as you point out, but he performed particularly well. And performed particularly well. And what has done is create some what he has done is create some divide with labour and divide in lines with labour and hes really challenging labour. Do you agree with the cuts in hs2 . Oh, itll probably have hs2 . Oh, itll probably have a vote on it in parliament. Net zero. Hell have a vote on it in parliament. Does labour agree with this or not . Labour have already voted against the rwanda policy in the illegal immigration bill, so hes really challenging them. Theyve been trying to sit on the fence , let trying to sit on the fence, let the conservatives lose the next general election. Hes bringing them into the fight. And you were a northern mp for many years. How how well do you sold the idea of you think he sold the idea of ditching london to manchester, which we know well . Lord berkeley, whos the great expert on hs2, said, would probably have cost £180 billion. How would you think he did he get away with it by saying hes going to spend £36 billion . That was earmarked lots was originally earmarked on lots of different transport projects in and midlands in the north and the midlands didnt get away . Well, i think he did. Ive been a regular am a regular been a regular i am a regular commuter manchester and commuter up to manchester and back. Today, so back. I go up later today, so im and down all the time im up and down all the time getting in minibus. No, im gb getting in a minibus. No, im gb news, im avanti west news, im going on avanti west coast. News, im going on avanti west coast. Its probably better in coast. Its probably better in the minibus, but and there is a capacity issue there , especially capacity issue there, especially if we want to move haulage onto the more and take it off the rail more and take it off the rail more and take it off the roads. But there is this big issue about it costing an absolute fortune , and i think absolute fortune, and i think hell get brownie points for having made the decision he has. And bear in mind , you know, you and bear in mind, you know, you hear from andy burnham , we are hear from andy burnham, we are very simplistic arguments. Ive got close family members who have no desire to come to london, whove never been to london. So they have no they have no skin in the game in terms of hs2. So a lot of it, actually. So a lot of it, actually. Absolutely. So i think hes got away with it. I mean, best from manchester, you know, lots of my friends up there were saying we did. We werent bothered. Anyway, we need to get to london we dont need to get to london ten quicker or back ten minutes quicker or get back from london minutes quicker. From london ten minutes quicker. It improve the it doesnt matter. Improve the wi fi service. Yes. Dont wi fi on the service. Yes. Dont just to the french just try to emulate the french model somehow we dont model and somehow we dont need it. Didnt it it. We didnt want it necessarily. And the money is extortionate. I think the extortionate. So i think the fact hes pulled the plug fact that hes pulled the plug on that is i think very on that is i think is a very popular with people, except andy burnham. And of course hes going to put pressure on next put pressure on labour next week. Because starmers week. What is because starmers Conferences Next Week is he going to endorse this and then cancel the projects cancel all the other projects that hull that hes talking about . Hull and liverpool all and leeds and liverpool all going benefit . Yeah thats right. It really makes its dragging starmer the fight, isnt starmer into the fight, isnt it . Thats what its all about. And are real and i think there are real questions why its run questions about why its run over so much. And cameron and gordon , others coming out, gordon brown, others coming out, osborne coming out saying he shouldnt cancel it, even johnson shouldnt johnson saying he shouldnt cancel it. Theyve been cancel it. Theyve been responsible it. The overrun responsible for it. The overrun in terms of the cost. Oh its disgusting. Boris johnson cancelled the link to leeds. Who is he to say . Yeah, absolutely. Yeah, absolutely. Were you know, given that were spending billion on the spending £110 billion on the debt in this we debt alone in this country, we can do without these projects which are just looking profligate to people. They dont look it. They are. Look it. They are. And what do you whats the alternative cuts that youre going to make . So i think he will get some credit, i hope, for having making for having made decision. Made a tough decision. The smoking hes i think the smoking ban hes aping what happened in new zealand. If youre 40, zealand. So if youre 40, theyre raise every theyre going to raise the every year how old you are to it. Year how old you are to buy it. Look at the moment, you cant buy if youre 14. Do we need buy a if youre 14. Do we need this ban . Well, an ex smoker. And well, im an ex smoker. And i enjoy the fumes from cigarettes that are smell. Now, you know, i could have a cigarette tomorrow or today even. But dont know but dont know because once i have i cant smoke socially have one, i cant smoke socially im it. So i think im back into it. So i think someone done about it. Someone has to be done about it. But it does seem exceptions. Draconian, it . So i am a draconian, doesnt it . So i am a bit libertarian on these issues and think if people want to smoke actively. Smoke they should actively. When i think about i am. But when i think about it, we just dont want kids to smoke. No, no. Point. Yeah. The point. Yeah. The point. Yeah. And if we make it more difficult for them to smoke, isnt a good thing . Isnt that a good thing . Isnt the isnt the problem isnt the issue arent smoking . Issue that kids arent smoking . A of people arent smoking. A lot of people arent smoking. So Tobacco Industry so suddenly the Tobacco Industry and government and actually the government taxes theyre not taxes on smoking, theyre not getting same so getting them in the same way. So funnily enough. Okay, well, we can we move on can we can we can move on smoking. Theyre not really fixing a because the fixing a problem because the problem really there problem isnt really there anymore. The biggest anymore. One of the biggest pubuc anymore. One of the biggest public would Public Health triumphs, i would say, ban on smoking say, has been the ban on smoking inside public areas. Its had inside in public areas. Its had a impact. Im not a massive impact. Im not comfortable the idea that a massive impact. Im not corrstate le the idea that a massive impact. Im not corrstate can the idea that a massive impact. Im not corrstate can tellthe idea that a massive impact. Im not corrstate can tell an idea that a massive impact. Im not corrstate can tell an adultthat a massive impact. Im not corrstate can tell an adult you the state can tell an adult you cant buy a product that is available and it will push it underground. Inevitably once it 100. Inevitably once it 100. Made point, nigel farage made that point, the underground industry is now going overdrive. And going to go into overdrive. And of course they start with smoking. What about then processed yeah bad processed meat . Yeah very bad for beastie crisis. What for the beastie crisis. What about alcohol . So naturally i think its not right to go far as he is right to go as far as he is doing. What do you think keir starmer do with it . Starmer would do with it . Simon with that . Simon with that . I think thats oh, i think thats interesting because hes probably i probably on the same page. I would have imagined just instinctively. I think that starmer by Sunak Starmer would probably by sunak was clever. Said would be a free he said it would be a free vote. Hes not going to make this a party issue. If this a party free issue. So if tory dont want to do it tory mps dont want to do it because lot of because there are a lot of libertarians on the backbenches who your views. Yeah in who take your views. Yeah in that itll get that i dont think itll get through that i dont think itll get thr you dont know. Very you dont know. Very interesting. Yeah what you think a lot of what do you think a lot of your ex colleagues will. Well and would have well yeah. And i would have been i was, i came been the same. I was, i came into parliament before law. No, sorry. On whether sorry. After the vote on whether you inside in pubs you could smoke inside in pubs and i would have compromise on that if id been voting and i would have compromise on that if i a been voting and i would have compromise on that if i a lot been voting and i would have compromise on that if i a lot oeren voting and i would have compromise on that if i a lot of workingng and i would have compromise on that if i a lot of working class because a lot of working class people cigarette. Yeah. People enjoy a cigarette. Yeah. And some sympathy with that. Yeah, me too. About that smoking i really objected smoking ban i really objected to is private clubs is when they said private clubs werent to. Yeah, werent allowed to. Yeah, actually mind it, that actually mind. Mind it, that should up to members of should be up to members of private take that private clubs to take that decision. Yeah they imposed it but actually people gone but actually people have gone along they. Along with it now havent they. No absolutely. Yeah. No absolutely. Yeah. No absolutely. Did say going to he did say hes going to crack down the marketing of crack down on the marketing of vapes because weve about vapes because weve talked about it many this show. It many times on this show. Parents grandparents parents and grandparents watching very watching at home get very incensed. Am one of them about incensed. I am one of them about the vape the fact that these Vape Products targeted to products are targeted to children. Id like to children. An but id like to know a bit more on the know a little bit more on the detail of that. Does detail of that. What does a crackdown on marketing of crackdown on the marketing of them mean . Because it doesnt sound hes to going put sound like hes to going put many limits on those businesses. Sound like hes to going put ma hes nits on those businesses. Sound like hes to going put ma hes going| those businesses. Sound like hes to going put ma hes going| tisay, businesses. Sound like hes to going put ma hes going| tisay, can nesses. Sound like hes to going put ma hes going| tisay, can they as. Sound like hes to going put ma they going| tisay, can they as. Sound like hes to going put ma they goingigoing, can they as. Sound like hes to going put ma they goingigoing, cisayieyes. Sound like hes to going put ma they goingigoing, cisay you;. Are they really going to say you can no longer have a bubblegum flavoured i mean, are they flavoured vape . I mean, are they really into the really going to get into the minutia that . Minutia of that . Think they can do i dont think they can do that. But where they are promoted and where they, you know, marketed, i they can know, marketed, i think they can probably they have probably affect it as they have done and done with gambling and everything else. Know if youre now, i dont know if youre reassured that a man is a man and a woman is a woman because rishi sunak quite clear rishi sunak was quite clear about that. Your bloke keir starmer struggles with this here does struggles with this here does struggle and it will be struggle with it and it will be something public are something that the public are reminded to the of reminded about up to the day of the election, it . The election, isnt it . Quite rightly. I mean, keir has it wrong on has just called it wrong on a number those sorts of number of those sorts of cultural social issues, whether its the knee his for its taking the knee in his for office lives matter office black lives matter through struggling through to struggling to define a these are real a woman. These are really real problems keir actually, can problems for keir actually, can we that your we just want to say that your son came to see us on the saturday. We saw yesterday. We saw yesterday. He was terrific. Lovely milton harris. He was on the show yesterday. We gave him a little of Work Experience little bit of Work Experience and to know 15 and youll be pleased to know 15 and youll be pleased to know 15 and a member the tory party. So unlike his father, hes seeing the true light. Joined several months yes. He joined several months ago. And unbeknown to me and then we were having chat then when we were having a chat one day, said, oh, by the one day, he said, oh, by the way, joined the way, ive joined the conservative party. And ever since campaigning since hes been campaigning in rochdale, sunak, rochdale, hes met rishi sunak, hes braverman is hes met Suella Braverman is enjoying really pleased enjoying it. Im really pleased i out a tweet, you know, i put out a tweet, you know, a few weeks ago saying really few weeks ago saying im really proud him. People who get proud of him. People who get involved in public life, you know, a gig, isnt know, its a tough gig, isnt it . If were honest about it . Yeah. If were honest about it. Really going for it. But hes really going for it. But hes really going for it. It. It. He enjoys it. I warned him against amazing. I warned him against the making a speech on the danger of making a speech on the danger of making a speech on the conference platform aged 15. Remember william yes. Remember William Hague . Yes. Haunted speech the remember William Hague . Yes. Hau ofld speech the remember William Hague . Yes. Hau of his speech the remember William Hague . Yes. Hau of his life . Speech the remember William Hague . Yes. Hau of his life . Yes. Ech the rest of his life . Yes. Yes, absolutely right. Yes, absolutely right. Simon dan, to see you. Simon dan, great to see you. To to you. Okay. Gb news to talk to you. Okay. Gb news presenter foster joins us presenter Arlene Foster joins us now. Arlene. Now. Morning, arlene. There she is. There she is. There she is. There there is. There she is. There she is. So, broadly, arlene, what did so, so broadly, arlene, what did you make of sunaks speech you make of rishi sunaks speech yesterday conference . Yesterday at the conference . Of all, im glad well, first of all, im glad to guys got back to see that you guys got back from your school trip yesterday and made safely to home and you made it safely to home the today. Um, and you made it safely to home the today. Um, i think he the studio today. Um, i think he i agree with simon. I thought it was a well delivered for a man who is not naturally an orator. I thought it was hugely interesting that he invoked the spirit of Margaret Thatcher on a number of occasions and he quoted Margaret Thatcher. He also made reference to the fact that she was a grocer daughter. He was a pharmacist son. He was trying to make those parallels with her. Im wanting to go back to her as opposed to any of the other conservative leaders. Since then, because of course, hes essentially says , we said hes essentially says, we said weve had 30 years of status quo , and that includes, of course , and that includes, of course, those conservative leaders that have gone before him. And of course , tony blair and gordon course, tony blair and gordon brown. So i thought that was hugely interesting, actually. Is he, Margaret Thatcher . Do you see him in the same mode as the great radical Margaret Thatcher . Arlene no , i dont see thatcher . Arlene no, i dont see him enough. Old at all. He tries to appeal to that for very obvious reasons because she is still hugely popular with many of the grassroots members. But you cannot say that youre imbibing the spirit of Margaret Thatcher and then bringing out this phased progressive ban on cigarettes because she simply would never have brought that in. So what do you think emboldens him to make those sorts of decisions . Ions which sorts of decisions . Ions which is state overreach, in my opinion. How is how is he able opinion. How is how is he able to do that in the way that Margaret Thatcher just would never have . I, i think hes saying, look , we have an issue here with health. We want to stop people from having cancer. We need to step fonnard. And its in the public good. I fonnard. And its in the public good. I think its right that he has had a free vote on this in the commons. Itll be very interesting to see what happens interesting to see what happens in relation to that. I mean, none of us want to see our children smoking, none of us. But actually in bizarre way, i but actually in a bizarre way, i think makes quite think this makes it quite attractive for young people. Theyll right, theyll be saying, oh right, its be banned. So its going to be banned. So yeah, look this and yeah, should we look at this and is something we should try . Is it something we should try . And i think that is really, and i think that that is really, really regressive. Yeah, i agree. Absolutely. I also was bit surprised if he also was a bit surprised if he wants talk about public wants to talk about Public Health and he he built up health and he said he built up to it. We have a we have an emergency. We a health emergency. We have a health emergency. We have a health emergency. Was emergency. I thought he was going say obesity, actually. Going to say obesity, actually. And lack of exercise. Going to say obesity, actually. An helack of exercise. Going to say obesity, actually. An he didnt exercise. Going to say obesity, actually. An he didnt mention. Going to say obesity, actually. An he didnt mention a word, he didnt mention a word, didnt that that is didnt mention it, that that is actually problem. Actually the problem. Which is crippling which is which is crippling the nhs largely. I thought that was omission from was a big omission from the speech. Arlene . Speech. Did you, arlene . Yeah, he did try to yeah, well, he did try to cover a lot of areas in the speech yesterday. I thought thats issue. Thats actually the issue. It wasnt big idea in the wasnt one big idea in in the fashion thatcher would have fashion that thatcher would have given some of her speeches given us in some of her speeches. There were a number of different to speech. Different parts to his speech. And he tried to cover a whole range of issues, tried say range of issues, tried to say that he was the radical choice as opposed to the status quo of keir starmer , which i think keir starmer, which i think actually is quite interesting and quite clever from his perspective because keir starmer is very much an establishment man , comes from a legal man, comes from a legal background. I thought his point background. I thought his point about all three of the labour leaders coming from the same square mile in north london was quite clever as well. So he was quite clever as well. So he was he was pointing out that these people all come from the same stable, whereas the stable, whereas in the conservative party, and you cannot deny there is a cannot deny this, there is a whole range of people from different backgrounds youve different backgrounds and youve just simon son, theyre just heard of simon son, theyre joining party, joining the conservative party, a of people from a whole range of people from different backgrounds getting involved because believe in involved because they believe in aspiration and hope. And thats what thatcher was about hope, aspiration. Thats what it was about. All right. Thanks, Arlene Foster lovely to talk to you. Now, the average rent for a home across britain, excluding london, has reached almost thousand month i one of the factors driving rising not enough rising rents is not enough Available Properties to available rental properties to meet the demand. Well, weve got in studio well, weve got in the studio with Richard Blanco is with us, Richard Blanco is a property expert and youre from the National Residential landlords £1,300. Landlords association. £1,300. Thats of money. Yes. Thats a lot of money. Yes. What right move i mean, what the right move stats us is that theyve stats tell us is that theyve gone up 10 nationally. But gone up by 10 nationally. But thats newly let properties. Thats for newly let properties. So its important that we look at the other figure, which is the national the office of national statistics, that statistics, which is that theyve up by 5. 5 across theyve gone up by 5. 5 across all. So whats happening all rents. So whats happening is theres huge shortage is theres a huge shortage of rental , rightmove rental property, rightmove points out theres an average of 25 queuing for each 25 people queuing for each property. And ive had that experience myself. Ive just let a property actually in east london where i advertise this on a friday. It was let by saturday. So its really, really tough for tenants out there. And the reason is that the main reason is that landlords are starting to sell up quite substantially , 37 tell up quite substantially, 37 tell us that theyre thinking of selling. Selling. And why is that . And why is that . Is that because Mortgage Rates of Interest Rates have gone up . Mortgage rates . Is that the problem . The big problem . It is partly because of mortgage is making Mortgage Rates, is making the whole business unaffordable Mortgage Rates, is making the whole i but|ess unaffordable Mortgage Rates, is making the whole i but its unaffordable Mortgage Rates, is making the whole i but its reallynrdable Mortgage Rates, is making the whole i but its really because really . But its really because of the changes that george of the tax changes that George Osborne in 2015. So osborne brought in in 2015. So what was he was wanting what happened was he was wanting to landlords from letting to deter landlords from letting properties. That he could properties. So that he could bnngin properties. So that he could bring in more home ownership. And he brought in punitive tax changes that meant that you couldnt mortgage costs couldnt set the mortgage costs against your on your tax against your your on your tax return and the effect that he wanted was for landlords to leave the market. And thats whats starting to happen. Can campaigners then it was campaigners then said it was a tenant and lo and behold tenant tax and lo and behold its turned out to be a tenant tax. It was so infuriated because what was he was what he was doing, he was demonising landlords. He wants everybody to think that landlords thousands landlords have thousands of properties, but the average landlord one landlord probably has one extra property out. Property which they rent out. Absolutely true. Its absolutely true. The vast majority has vast majority of landlords has 1 or properties and landlords or 2 properties and landlords provide 19 of the housing in the uk. It tends to be the the uk. It tends to be the housing thats in city centres that people need for jobs, things that students need that people young need when people young people need when they that newlyweds they leave home that newlyweds might until they afford might need until they can afford to buy. So its a really vital part of the housing economy. And part of the housing economy. And we really need the government to look again at tax reform as indeed clive betts, whos the labour chair of the housing select committee, has said to. Select committee, has said to. Because people cant and so because people cant afford to buy, because they cant save a deposit and or they cant save a deposit and or they cant now afford these excruciating rates, excruciating Interest Rates, everybodys the market is flooded with renters , is that flooded with renters, is that right . But the property hasnt. Right . But the property hasnt. Property quantity has not increased. Thats whats happened. Its supply and demand. Yes, its supply and demand. Yes, its supply and demand. I would call it a supply crisis. Yes. People are not buying at the moment because, of course, Mortgage Rates high and Mortgage Rates are too high and theyre kind of waiting for Mortgage Rates are too high and thejmarket kind of waiting for Mortgage Rates are too high and thejmarket to nd of waiting for Mortgage Rates are too high and thejmarket to settle, iaiting for Mortgage Rates are too high and thejmarket to settle, which for Mortgage Rates are too high and thejmarket to settle, which we the market to settle, which we think might happen next year. But is a supply crisis. Do but there is a supply crisis. Do you it will happen next year . I know friends who are looking buy theyre looking to buy and theyre just waiting to see what happens. So theyre waiting and waiting and waiting for the crash. Then theyll they and then theyll do they think government is going think a new government is going to everything . To change everything . I think wont. To change everything . No, i think wont. To change everything . No,they1ink wont. To change everything . No, they wont. Nt. To change everything . No, they wont. No. I mean, Political Uncertainty does weigh on Housing Market and it on the Housing Market and it makes wait and see. But i think what were seeing is seen house prices fall is weve seen house prices fall by 5. 3, according to nationwide stats out in 12 months to september. People are september. Yeah, people are saying were looking about saying were looking at about a 10 from from peak to 10 fall from from peak to trough. That trough. So i would imagine that will know, reach its trough will you know, reach its trough by the end of the middle of by the end of by the middle of next year. Yeah. Okay. People next year. Yeah. Okay. People are richard are waiting for that. Richard blanco, so much. Blanco, thank you so much. Bleak that it. Bit bleak that isnt it. Right. To this right. Still to come this morning, sunak vows to ban morning, rishi sunak vows to ban smoking generation. Smoking for the next generation. How do you feel about that . Gb views at gb news. Made. Com is the email address. This is britains newsroom on gb news, the peoples channel. Hello there. Hello there. Very good morning. Im jonathan with your Jonathan Vautrey here with your gb forecast gb news Weather Forecast provided by the met office. Provided by the met office. Definitely picture definitely a mixed picture across uk during today. Across the uk during today. Weve already rain spreading weve already got rain spreading into parts of northern ireland. Really a wet, damp start really quite a wet, damp start to the day here. That pushing really quite a wet, damp start to wayiay here. That pushing really quite a wet, damp start to way into |ere. That pushing really quite a wet, damp start to way into westernt pushing really quite a wet, damp start to way into western parts1shing really quite a wet, damp start to way into western parts of ing its way into western parts of scotland then will scotland and then will eventually reach of eventually reach parts of Northern England and wales as well. Areas well. But southeastern areas of england far england and even the far north east in the north east of scotland in the northern isles, largely northern isles, staying largely dry for most of the day with some as well. Well some sunny spells as well. Well be Eastern England that be south Eastern England that sees temperatures, sees those higher temperatures, though reaching around though generally reaching around 19 c. Cooler where you are 19 c. A bit cooler where you are stuck underneath the rain and particularly for northeast scotland, around 12 c. Theyre quite gusty at times. Some gales around the irish sea coastal areas that rain there will spread way eastwards as we spread its way eastwards as we head throughout this and head throughout this evening and overnight. Eventually a few drabs, pushing their way across southeastern well. But southeastern areas as well. But most largely turning most places largely turning dry as into second half as we head into the second half of night. Still some of the night. Still just some random pushing way random showers pushing their way through a lot cloud through at times. A lot of cloud around, and the around, though, and still the breeze so that will breeze in place. So that will help up the and prevent help mix up the air and prevent our temperatures dropping too help mix up the air and prevent ouratmperatures dropping too help mix up the air and prevent ourat all. Ratures dropping too help mix up the air and prevent ourat all. Mostes dropping too help mix up the air and prevent ourat all. Most ofiropping too help mix up the air and prevent ourat all. Most of usyping too help mix up the air and prevent ourat all. Most of us seeingno far at all. Most of us seeing quite a mild night around 14, 15 c. We then see this lingering rain push its way into rain start to push its way into parts scotland throughout parts of scotland throughout friday. It heads friday. This pulse, as it heads in on in the afternoon as in later on in the afternoon as well, some quite well, could provide some quite heavy rain. So heavy and persistent rain. So worth out that. But worth watching out for that. But again, fine dry start again, a fairly fine dry start and to the day across and end to the day across Northern Areas with some sunny spells as well. Spells in there as well. Temperatures beginning to climb with southerly airflow with that southerly airflow around as we around 21 c, even higher as we head the weekend. Enjoy head into the weekend. Enjoy your by way. Its 10 00 on thursday, the 5th of october. This is britains newsroom on gb news. With me, bev turner and Andrew Pierce. It has finally happened. I am ending this long running saga. I am ending this long running saga. I am cancelling the rest saga. I am cancelling the rest of the hs2 project. Of the hs2 project. Prime minister rishi sunak said goodbye to hs2 and unveiled the £36 billion Network North transport projects to replace the high speed line between manchester and birmingham and likely policy or a pipe dream. Rishi sunak said increasing the legal age of smoking annually will be the single biggest intervention in Public Health generation. Is he right . Smoking places huge pressures on the nhs and costs our country. £17 billion a year. We have a chance to cut cancer deaths by a quarter significa gently ease those pressures and protect our children and we should take it and Just Stop Oil strike again. Last night they brought a performance of Les Miserables at the sondheim theatre in london to a halt. Five people have been arrested. The protesters were not welcomed warmly by the audience. No shes a baller and audience. No shes a baller and no painful people. No painful people. A bit more than that now. A bit more than that now. Record high rents. The average rent outside of london has risen to almost £1,300 a month. To almost £1,300 a month. Funnily enough, you never see them at football grounds. Funny that i wonder why do you think its because football fans would take the matters into their hands . Fans would take the matters into the i hands . Fans would take the matters into thei think1ands . Fans would take the matters into thei think so. is . Fans would take the matters into thei think so. Whack them. I think so. Whack them. I think so. Whack them. Theyre cowardly. I mean, you heard the worst they heard theyre the worst they got. Was somebody in the crowd shouting, naughty, you naughty people. You nasty people. Yeah, would be incensed. Yeah, i would be incensed. Yeah, i would be incensed. Me too. Oh, me too. Oh, me too. Love the theatre and i love the theatre and tickets are cheap. That tickets now are not cheap. That would been probably an would have been probably an average 100 average cost ticket price, 100 to because have to save to £120 because i have to save up it. And these idiots try up for it. And these idiots try to their evenings. To ruin their evenings. Absolutely. Absolutely. Your thoughts. Let us know your thoughts. Vaiews gbnews. Com email as always. Though, is always. First though, here is your news with your very latest news with rhiannon. Rhiannon jones. Thank you. Good morning. Its 10 02. Your top stories from the newsroom. Im the prime newsroom. Im the Prime Minister. Set to urge leaders to join forces to tackle illegal migration and protect europes borders from criminal gangs. Rishi sunak is travelling to spain a day after almost 700 migrants arrived on the Canary Islands in wooden boats head of state and european president s are meeting in granada for a summit. Mr are meeting in granada for a summit. Mr sunak will co chair talks with the italian Prime Minister on the need to address rising levels of illegal migration. Downing streets also expected to announce initiatives to increase intelligence sharing and operational cooperation with belgium, bulgaria and serbia. Belgium, bulgaria and serbia. Rent prices for homes have increased to the highest level on record. The average charge for property, excluding london, is now almost £1,300 a month. Its the 15th consecutive quarter that that the records been broken in the capital average rents rose to more than £2,600 per month. The research by rightmove also shows demand is higher with properties receiving 25 inquiries compared to eight before the pandemic. To eight before the pandemic. Property expert russell quirk says the rise was inevitable. Says the rise was inevitable. All supply. So the amount of all supply. So the amount of rental Properties Available has also dropped. So the numbers state that theres about 35 fewer Properties Available. So youve got demand up , supply youve got demand up, supply down, theres only one inevitable consequence of that , inevitable consequence of that, which is that prices would increase significantly as indeed they are the transport secretary says cancelling hs2 will allow investments that fit the needs of the country. Of the country. Its after the Prime Minister announced the northern leg of the high speed rail line has been scrapped. Former Prime Ministers Boris Johnson and David Cameron both criticised the decision, saying that a once in a Generation Opportunity has been lost. Mark harper told gb news the facts have changed every penny that we save from cancelling that thats £36 billion and reinvesting every penny across the north, the midlands and the rest of the country on important transport, transport, infrastructure that the people of this country want i so so| so i think thats just changing what were investing, still investing in transport, but having investments that fit the needs of the country. We and the needs of the country. We and recognise the facts have changed about the cost of hs2. About the cost of hs2. Meanwhile, the Prime Ministers been reported to police in scotland over comments he made about nicola sturgeon. He made reference to the former first minister during his speech at the conservative Party Conference yesterday. Ms conference yesterday. Ms sturgeon was arrested, questioned and released without charge as part of an Ongoing Investigation into snp finances. The general secretary of the Pro Independence alba party has reported rishi sunak to police, accusing him of contempt of court. A watchdog says southern court. A watchdog says southern water and thames water received the most complaint from customers over the past year. The Consumer Council for water says the more than 20 Million People served by the two firms were being let down by their failure to understand and deal with the high levels of complaint. With the high levels of complaint. Its with the high levels of complaint. Its theyve been complaint. Its theyve been labelled stand out poor performers with southern water getting almost three times more complaints than average for water and sewerage companies. Water and sewerage companies. And Just Stop Oil protesters are being criticised for interrupting the west end performance of Les Miserables in Central London last singing a song about activists fix themselves to the stage using flexible bike locks and force the production to end early. The chief executive says he recognises freedom of expression is important , recognises freedom of expression is important, but added that the audience has a right to enjoy an event theyve paid for. Five people were arrested and refunds are being offered to the theatre goers. This is are being offered to the theatre goers. This is gb are being offered to the theatre goers. This is gb news across goers. This is gb news across the uk on tv in your car, on Digital Radio and on your Smart Speaker by saying play gb news now its back over to andrew and. Bev good morning. Its 1006. Bev good morning. Its1006. It. Bev good morning. Its 1006. It is the. Bev good morning. Its1006. It is the morning after the conservative Party Conference. Your heads all right. Just about just about. Despite the mini bus ride, youve been getting in touch at home. Alastair has said hi bev and andrew. Great show. Thank you, alastair. Hs2 question if the project started in north project started in the north heading south, would it have been cancelled . Heading south, would it have beevery1celled . Heading south, would it have beevery1celle point. Very good point. Very good point. Still dont understand and i still dont understand why launched it from london why they launched it from london to it was all to birmingham when it was all about it should have about yeah, it should have started in leeds or manchester. Gone gone down, said. Gone and gone down, john said. Government has a drive to the government has a drive to stop smoking, stop people smoking, but it ignores far greater problem ignores the far greater problem the ever increasing drug addiction. Sunak addiction. And paula said sunak speech was he didnt speech was awful. He didnt mention cost of living once mention the cost of living once and he spent over half of his speech talking about hs2. Good point. Sometimes these speeches are you are more interesting when you consider out as consider what was left out as opposed to what was in it. He didnt talk about tax either because got nothing he didnt talk about tax eitsay because got nothing he didnt talk about tax eitsay on ause got nothing he didnt talk about tax eitsay on taxe got nothing he didnt talk about tax eitsay on tax because it nothing he didnt talk about tax eitsay on tax because hes hing he didnt talk about tax eitsay on tax because hes not; to say on tax because hes not going cut. Going to cut. He is going to cut tax, i think, before the election. But we have got the biggest tax burden country, 70 burden on this country, 70 years. Burden on this country, 70 yea keep your emails keep your emails coming. Vaiews gbnews. Com and we will get to them. Now. Now. Prime minster laid out the prime minster laid out his stall with that keynote speech. Think of it speech. What did you think of it at tory Party Conference at the tory Party Conference there range of policy there was a wide range of policy announcements scrapping there was a wide range of policy announce and ts scrapping there was a wide range of policy announce and the scrapping there was a wide range of policy announceand the hs2;crapping there was a wide range of policy announceand the hs2 linkping there was a wide range of policy announce and the hs2 link tog a levels and the hs2 link to manchester, well outlawing manchester, as well as outlawing cigarettes generations. Joining us to talk about the joining us to talk about this conservative party this is the conservative Party Activist ahmed, whos activist hazem ahmed, whos worked on many election campaigns time has campaigns in his time has morning to you. Know youve worked with i know youve worked with rishi too. This hes rishi sunak, too. Was this hes not a great orator, is he . But i think this was probably his best speech. Good morning to you both and ihope good morning to you both and i hope youve all and got home safe. Um, yes. So rishi is a in my view, is a great orator. Um ive seen him Campaign Many times. Hes had the room to him. Um, this speech itself was brilliant in a way that you, when you were in the audience at that time listening to his speech, you could just feel that energy okay, what hes energy of, okay, what hes saying is actually makes sense. And conservative actors were really listening to really engaged in listening to him giving him that time him and giving him that time because of people came in because a lot of people came in with thinking, is the with thinking, oh, this is the first speech of as first speech of him as a feminist and lets what its feminist and lets see what its all about. But actually, this was a very measured speech and people time that he deserves. So what about that email weve just read out from from somebody saying you didnt mention living mention the cost of living crisis. Cost of living crisis. The cost of living crisis. The cost of living crisis the single biggest crisis is the single Biggest Issue listening to issue facing people listening to this watching this programme or watching it. I spoke few yeah, i spoke to a few activists and i think activists as well and i think they mentioned that i think they also mentioned that i think cost of crisis, also cost of living crisis, also housing, as a young person housing, which as a young person myself, you earlier mentioned about myself, you earlier mentioned abo it myself, you earlier mentioned aboi think addressing those i think addressing those would have been quite important to Younger Party to many of the younger Party Activists also other activists and also other members. Again , the prime members. But again, the Prime Minister out priorities minister set out his priorities. There was also a lot of news on the hs2, but he also focussed on the hs2, but he also focussed on education, which again was quite important. Also talked quite important. He also talked about , i quite important. He also talked about, i guess quite important. He also talked about , i guess the quite important. He also talked about, i guess the jude quite important. He also talked about , i guess the jude law, about, i guess the jude law, which gave life for life and how hes going to tackle criminal gangs and criminals. So there were a lot of priorities discussed, but perhaps a little bit more emphasis on cost of living would have been very helpful sure. Helpful for sure. Was it was it a conservative speech for you . I mean, we were up there has i mean, we were up there in manchester. Nigel farage walks and he is mobbed by walks in and he is mobbed by conservatives capital c, small c, both. You know, and they all they love him and they want to see a little bit more of that strong fighting talk that they get from nigel farage on gb news every night, 7 00. So was rishi sunak of that for you . Sunak enough of that for you . As i mentioned earlier, rishi is a measured person. He is a hes a person who looks at whats in front of him and deals with it accordingly, which is exactly why hes announced those hs2 policies. Nigel exactly why hes announced those hs2 policies. Nigel is popular because nigel says things which are slightly controversial a lot of the time, but it echoes with a lot of the right wing thinkers and those in the party who align themselves slightly to nigels viewpoint. But rishi in many ways is a lot more measured, was a lot more calm and focussed, but also he has to look at the reality in the way we face it today. Thats why i think rishis speech hit a lot more of the core voters core activists in the party as well. So um, yeah, i mean nigel has his unpopularity, but rishi himself as a Prime Minister, he has to be again, very careful in what he has to say and doesnt have to go, you know, saying too much once has. What did you make of the idea of the Prime Ministers wife coming stage to introduce coming on stage to introduce him . A good him . I thought quite a good idea. Gordon browns wife did it. Sarah, years ago. She it. Sarah, some years ago. She did go on a bit. It was a lovely speech. And actually it has a wonderful person. Honestly. She was also in conference really engaging with activists, and i just thought it was really sweet of her to be really talking to people. And it was quite personable. You could just feel that it came from a place where we see rishi sunak as a person whos, as you know, on tv, but it was more about coming from a place where this is a man who i love and he really cares about his country. She also talked about aspiration that rishi had aspiration from very early on and she really loved that about him. I mean, remember last him. I mean, i remember last year rishi sunak said that year when rishi sunak said that akshata her. He was for akshata ditched her. He was for him. You know, there really him. So, you know, there really is love there and a lot is a lot of love there and a lot of people said its very american style, but actually this is what people wanted to see. And its a bit you know what it is a bit saccharine for my taste. My taste. And i think most british women married to their husband for as long as theyve been together would struggle to stand on a speech and say theyre nothing but perfect. I think she needed temper it with needed to temper it with a little bit of realism about the fact that sometimes you must drive a maybe doesnt, drive a mad or maybe he doesnt, because looks a bit inauthentic. He leaves his smelly socks on the floor, that sort of thing, because of husbands do. Because a lot of husbands do. Its a bit it was all a bit too polished my liking. Too polished for my liking. It to be a bit youd want it to be a bit more like that. I mean, you know, who wouldnt . But i think she did say he likes a good rom com. But again, its rishi sunak she did say he likes a good rom com actuallyiin, its rishi sunak she did say he likes a good rom com actually they. s rishi sunak she did say he likes a good rom com actually they areishi sunak she did say he likes a good rom com actually they are knowmak and actually they are know theyre a wonderful couple and honestly they just get honestly they just they just get on ive them on really well ive seen them around they are just around and they are just as perfect it could and to be perfect as it could be and to be honest was. Honest it was. Well, it was this also about another thing. Lets be clear. Here she is the daughter of a billionaire. Shes worth £780 million in her own right through the family firm. Was this an attempt to try to slay labours faults because theyre going to keep going on and on about how privileged and rich so how can rich rishi is. So how can he possibly understand of possibly understand the cost of living crisis . So presenter is a nice, ordinary, loving wife. Was that really about . See, whenever i hear 7 see, whenever i hear about how richard tice whenever i hear about how rich rishi is, it reminds me back to the fact these both of them actually started with absolutely nothing. Both the families worked both of the families worked incredibly. Ashleys incredibly hard. Ashleys parents absolutely parents started with absolutely nothing, started a company, infosys, its one the infosys, and its now one of the Largest Companies the world. Largest companies in the world. Were rishis parents as were also rishis parents as well. Worked very hard well. They also worked very hard to the education, the to give him the education, the opportunities that he has to make him the man he is today. So i think in many ways, a lot of people see the aspiration in rishi Sunak Akshata as is rishi sunak and akshata as is what to is what what they want to do is what they aspire be. And i think they aspire to be. And i think they aspire to be. And i think they set the tone for how they really set the tone for how people want to aspire and become like most of them. And i think labour doesnt really off labour doesnt really give off that to many of the that aspiration to many of the people in the country and in many ways which akshata and rishi able to provide. Rishi have been able to provide. You think was enough do you think there was enough in speech to put keir in the speech to put keir starmer into various difficult corners . Has yes, absolutely. Corners . Has yes, absolutely. As we know, keir starmer doesnt really stand for anything. He says one thing and tomorrow is going to change again. His speech is coming up next week and its going to look at what rishi sunak has said. Then its going to announce what he popular or what he he thinks is popular or what he thinks is popular by the measure of twitter and what the twitter folks actually, rishi, folks say. But actually, rishi, you to talk folks say. But actually, rishi, you hs2 to talk folks say. But actually, rishi, you hs2 and to talk folks say. But actually, rishi, you hs2 and who to talk folks say. But actually, rishi, you hs2 and who wantsilk folks say. But actually, rishi, you hs2 and who wants to cut about hs2 and who wants to cut him . Its a difficult decision. Rishi can say what popular. Rishi can say what is popular. Rishi can say what is popular. Rishi well , lets rishi can say, oh, well, lets lets it on. Lets, you lets carry it on. Lets, you know, lets avoid all of these costs that we are having to put every year. But rishi every year on year. But rishi has make the hard choices as has to make the hard choices as Prime Minister starmer could very say, you know, one very easily say, you know, one thing that i one thing that i think has sorry to interrupt you, just want to talk you, but we just want to talk about before was about it before we go was a brave rejection of the trans activist lobby. And know how powerful that and we know how powerful that group he said a man is group is. When he said a man is a man, woman is a woman. And a man, a woman is a woman. And thats just common that thats just common sense that was a very brave thing say. Was a very brave thing to say. Predicted attacked he predicted being attacked for oh, absolutely. Oh, absolutely. Oh, absolutely. Look, i dont really want to dwell too much onto the gender stuff, why stuff, but i think its why rishi attacked. Exactly. Exactly. My its my. Its my own its my its my. Its my own personal thing. Think i its a personal thing. I think i its a very its a very sensitive thing to talk about. So you think he got it so do you think he got it right that it hit the tone with a lot of members . A lot of the members . Say that for sure. I can say that for sure. Because who have been, you know, talking about whether its male because who have been, you know, ta aing about whether its male because who have been, you know, ta a malenout whether its male because who have been, you know, ta a male ort whether its male because who have been, you know, ta a male ort whetheand male because who have been, you know, ta a male ort whetheand also e is a male or women. And also what happening within what is happening within our educations. For me, its a educations. But for me, its a very sensitive topic, which i think is something that needs to be debated a bit more be debated in a bit more thoroughly. Well i think in particular, women in particular would have welcomed that because women are fed up with their women are fed up with their women only spaces invaded women only spaces being invaded by purporting to be women. Well, yeah , were not fed up well, yeah, were not fed up by it. Were frightened by it. Actually, thats what i would say. Were quite scared by that march towards being erased as women i think its a women. But i do think its a conversation we to have conversation we have to have sensitively so sensitively has. Thank you so much. Great talk to you. Come much. Great to talk to you. Come on. Again, was very on. Again, that was very interesting. Has there, interesting. Has ahmed there, who on many election who has worked on many election campaigns, working who has worked on many election caijishi. , working with rishi. Still come, should we now, still to come, should we ban these dangerous dog breeds or their owners to blame . Ban these dangerous dog breeds or tbeen wners to blame . Ban these dangerous dog breeds or tbeen another blame . Ban these dangerous dog breeds or tbeen another fatality . Ban these dangerous dog breeds or tbeen another fatality in theres been another fatality in the week, course , were the last week, of course, were gb news britains news talent sunday mornings from 930 on news i its 1019. Youre with britains news gb news with Andrew Pierce and bev turner. So a Murder Investigation has been launched after a dog believed to be an xl bully killed a man in sunderland. Killed a man in sunderland. Theres been a spate of these attacks, of course, over the past few the prime past few months. The Prime Minister hes going to minister says hes going to ban these dangerous when . These dangerous dogs. But when . Thats right. Were joined now by neil parish, former tory mp environment mp and chair of the Environment Food Rural Affairs select food and Rural Affairs select committee. And neil, you think that be that these dogs should be banned . Also joining us now now is hannah molly canine behaviourist from kent. You dont you dont think this is the answer neil me come to the answer neil let me come to you. Awful we you. Its awful when we see these headlines. This story broke other broke yesterday about this other person their life at the person losing their life at the jaws one of these awful jaws of one of these awful animals. Why should they be banned, your opinion . Banned, in your opinion . I mean, think the yeah, i mean, i think the trouble is with the size of the dog, the bully dog, you know, the bully american dog is the size and scale of it. So that if it does turn nasty, it particularly dangerous and particularly fatal in this case, which is terrible, terrible. I think the problem terrible. I think the problem really is that that all the time there is a criminal element very often out there who are training these dogs as protection dogs for themselves. And they will crossbreed and bring in another breed. So weve got to be careful all the time, not just just to pick on the dog. Weve got sure that the people got to make sure that the people handung got to make sure that the people handling and looking handling them and looking after them are also looked into because , you know, if you treat because, you know, if you treat a dog in a very bad way, in order to make it a status dog to protect you, perhaps your drug deaung protect you, perhaps your drug dealing or whatever you want, some sort of protection. This is some sort of protection. This is what weve got to watch out for. So i think want to make sure so i think we want to make sure its the deed of the of the dog, not necessarily the breed, but i can understand in this case, the bigger the dog, the more dangerous they are. But the trouble is, you see the criminal element out there will look for different cross breeds and they will breed up something else. So weve got to be careful as we ban dogs that just dont make ban dogs that we just dont make it difficult for a legitimate dog owner. And passive dog and dog owner. And a passive dog and this is why when we did inquiries into it, its not quite as simple as just banning a breed because they will look for another one. Okay, well, lets bring hannah in. Hannah, we think so far in the last 12 months, six people have as a result of being have died as a result of being attacked by these xl bully dogs. Surely they have to be banned. Surely they have to be banned. And now , i think for me, we and now, i think for me, we really need to be looking at the symptom , not the symptom, but symptom, not the symptom, but the cause. And this is often the problem when we go to banning breeds is its a symptom of a bigger cause. And thats what weve been asking government really been asking government to really look when we did our dog bite look at when we did our dog bite Reform Campaign with the appg for dog welfare , we really for dog welfare, we really looked happening in looked at whats happening in the why is it happening the data. Why is it happening and what can we do to solve it . And what many experts have said is that actually, albeit banning breeds short term , might breeds in the short term, might make people feel a little safer in the long term. Were really not getting to the root cause , not getting to the root cause, and thats we want. We want and thats what we want. We want to see investment into communities. We want to rebuild communities. We want to rebuild communities that have been fractured by this breed ban. And its how long does that take . Molly hannah sorry, how long does that take . Weve got to ban these dogs now because we cant does that take . Weve got to ban these any|s now because we cant does that take . Weve got to ban these any morev because we cant does that take . Weve got to ban these any more fatalities we cant have any more fatalities or serious children have serious injuries. Children have been by these wretched creatures. Yes, i understand. And the thing is, its thing is, is that its a fashionable breed. So really, we have the same problem just 30 years later. And we havent addressed the issue. What we would love to see is licencing and education for all dog owners. You know, the dvla looks at licencing vehicles. We would love to see the dla, the dog licencing agency, so we can licence dog owners and we can teach them and educate them. We can make sure theyve got handung can make sure theyve got handling skills, we can licence breeders , we can effectively breeders, we can effectively regulate trainers. Thats regulate dog trainers. Thats really what we want. Thats seeing and investing in communities. It seems a sensible it seems such a sensible solution and weve had this debate on the show and licencing dog owners seems like it would just support. But just get unanimous support. But why isnt happening . Neil . Why isnt it happening . Neil . Wheres resistance . Wheres the resistance . I think what the yes, well, i think what the problem is, is that you youve got the legitimate, legitimate dog owner who will actually go to the courses and very much do the right thing. The other problem is that still wont problem is that you still wont get to the criminal element, which really the more which is really the more dangerous because they are the ones with which their dogs ones with which train their dogs to be dangerous and most dogs will be dangerous if you train them in that way. So i think weve got to not only is it looking at the legitimate dog owner, but weve got to have more resources out there looking for the dangerous dogs and those that keeping dangerous that are keeping dangerous dogs to themselves and will to protect themselves and will attack others in the meantime , attack others in the meantime, of course, make sure that these types of breeds are muzzled when they are out. So therefore , that they are out. So therefore, that if they do get loose, they are not as dangerous. So the things we can do in between , im not so we can do in between, im not so keen on on making everybody have a licence because i feel all the time you are concentrating on the legitimate dog owner. Were still not got enough resources from council and government and others actually dealing with those in society. Those in society. You see, i would just the dangerous dogs. But hannah, you cant ever guarantee, can you, that a dog wont bite someone even the nicest, most placid dog. So why not licence them all . Yeah. The truth is, is that we saw before just after lockdown the paw report showed us that over a third of dog owners had little to no recall. So we have an irresponsible Dog Ownership issue across the board, across the uk and when we look at footage like the footage that youve just shown us and we look at some more of the veterinary forensic evidence around of these cases, that around some of these cases, that particular dog in birmingham, when caught, was taken to the vet it was found to have vet and it was found to have been so lacking in water that it almost was immediately almost died. It was immediately put so that dog was put on liquid so that dog was out in the heat of the day on a day that shouldnt been day that it shouldnt have been out. Shouldnt been out, out. It shouldnt have been out, and a panic attack. It and it had a panic attack. It attacked lots of people. So, you know would hate to see is know what i would hate to see is that were doing is blaming that what were doing is blaming an animal that we have bred, you know, dogs that know, ultimate dogs that are dangerously control in dangerously out of control in pubuc dangerously out of control in public have been badly public and that have been badly bred theyre frustrated. We bred or theyre frustrated. We have created that problem. Um, have created that problem. Um, regardless of what the breed of dog is. So i totally hear that , dog is. So i totally hear that, you know, the criminal aspect for this, i would argue, is maybe 1 and 99 of the issue is not being dealt with by banning this breed is my thought. Neil, you were an mp for a long time. The Prime Minister has said hes to going ban these dogs. Quickly can they do dogs. How quickly can they do it . If there was a political will i cant its will and i cant see that its going to be any objections on the labour benches and the lib dem benches . This could done the labour benches and the lib de11 benches . This could done the labour benches and the lib de1 orenches . This could done the labour benches and the lib de1 or 2|ches . This could done the labour benches and the lib de1 or 2 days, this could done the labour benches and the lib de1 or 2 days, couldntld done the labour benches and the lib de1 or 2 days, couldnt it . Done the labour benches and the lib de1 or 2 days, couldnt it . And ne in 1 or 2 days, couldnt it . And it should to. Be yeah, it can be done quite quickly it can be quickly because it can be attached particular attached to particular legislation and thats going through and so it can legislation and thats going thrdone and so it can legislation and thats going thrdone quickly. 1d so it can legislation and thats going thrdone quickly. It so it can legislation and thats going thrdone quickly. It should|n be done very quickly. It should be done very quickly. It should be done, it be i think be done, it can be done, i think as legislation, not as secondary legislation, not as primary. So can primary legislation. So it can be done quickly and bring it in and actually try and make sure that dogs are banned. But and actually try and make sure thati dogs are banned. But and actually try and make sure thati said, dogs are banned. But and actually try and make sure thati said, ings are banned. But and actually try and make sure thati said, in there banned. But and actually try and make sure thati said, in the in banned. But and actually try and make sure thati said, in the in the1ed. But like i said, in the in the future, weve got to be much more to what dogs are more careful as to what dogs are bred because they will breed another dangerous dog thats the problem. But we must act now on this particular breed. No doubt about it. Okay. Thank you both very much. Parish, there and much. Neil parish, there and hannah molly canine behaviourist youve all been getting in touch at home about this. Actually um, here go. Sorry, sorry, sorry. Here we go. Sorry, sorry, sorry. I know it was here somewhere. Edward says, why are people more interested in banning a dog breed than banning Illegal Immigrants . Breed than banning illegal immicommitted crimes have committed many more crimes than these dogs. Thank you, edward. Slightly different issue. All dogs issue. Keith says all dogs should muzzled should be muzzled in Public Places , i thats right. Places, as i think thats right. And even if theyre a jack russell, frankly because they and even if theyre a jack russbe , frankly because they and even if theyre a jack russbe very|kly because they and even if theyre a jack russbe very yappywecause they and even if theyre a jack russbe very yappy and|se they and even if theyre a jack russbe very yappy and difficult. Yeah not, their owners should if not, their owners should be fined big time enough is enough. And angela says stop blaming dogs put the blaming the dogs and put the blame its squarely blame where its squarely belongs humans who own them. Well , he is them. Well, he is going to do it, Prime Minister said hes going to do. But ive talked to. You know what . Just get on it. The what . Just get on with it. The house commons gets back after house of commons gets back after Party Conference. By the way, why house of commons why does the house of commons close for three weeks of close down for three weeks of party an Party Conferences . Its an outrage. Outrageous. Outrage. It is outrageous. Yeah. Why does they probably. Yeah. Why does government they probably. Yeah. Why does governmeyeah. Its is ridiculous. Yes. I mean. I mean, how many mps did you see the tory conference . I, i well, i saw quite a few but 352 of them, i didnt see that many. No, i did not see that many. But it was interesting to see who was there and who was watching mps the, in the watching mps in the, in the wild, you know, you know, seeing who would talk who would stop and talk to people friendly, people who was friendly, who just down and just put their head down and kept walking. Theresa coffey was just put their head down and kept ianding. Theresa coffey was just put their head down and kept iand she Theresa Coffey was just put their head down and kept iand she was esa coffey was just put their head down and kept iand she was chatting y was just put their head down and kept iand she was chatting away there and she was chatting away to people and looking very friendly. Liz truss head down, flanked by her entourage , priti flanked by her entourage, priti patel talking to everybody thats because shes on a leadership campaign. Theres no doubt about that. Yeah. Yeah. And fact , i was just here and in fact, i was just here at point, i in fact, im at this point, i in fact, im almost because i was almost off shot because i was spying the Prime Minister there. I was. I was. I was. I didnt realise im on the back of that shot. So this was the exhibitors. Was because the exhibitors. This was because i to this was early in i wanted to this was early in the morning, very in the morning, very early in the morning. Wanted watch morning. But i wanted to watch him with people. I wanted to see our dogs. I wanted to see what he like with and he was like with people and whether actually had genuine whether he actually had genuine people looked people skills and looked like he cared. And to say, from cared. And i have to say, from what i saw, i thought he was extreme, likeable. Extreme, seemly likeable. Here he is. Yeah, yeah. And here he is. Yeah, yeah. And here he is. Patting some guide dogs hes patting some guide dogs for the blind he gave. I found this interview the day this interview the other day where about the where he moaned about the fact he bought children dogs too. He bought his children dogs too. But bought a dog. But he bought a dog. Its a labrador. Yeah. Whinging about the he had buy the fact he had to go and buy all toys for a dog all these pet toys for a dog that he didnt want. That he didnt even want. We see, thats. Thats real. We see, thats. Thats real. Thats normal. Quite like that. Dont polish it for us all the time. Exactly. And because, of course, we are a nation dog so are a nation of dog lovers, so its quite brave to say that. Yeah, yeah, yeah, absolutely. Its quite brave to say that. Yea leteah, yeah, absolutely. Its quite brave to say that. Yea let us1, yeah, absolutely. Its quite brave to say that. Yea let us know1, absolutely. Its quite brave to say that. Yea let us know1, absthoughts let us know your thoughts this morning. Vaiews gbnews. Com is were going is the email address were going to be talking, course, about to be talking, of course, about the behaviour this. The outrage behaviour of this. Protesters Just Stop Oil protesters demonstrating and disrupting and i ruining the les i think actually ruining the les miz people london this week. Miz people in london this week. Absolutely appalling. Miz people in london this week. Abso|itsly appalling. Miz people in london this week. Abso|its awful. Illing. Miz people in london this week. 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But first of all, lets introduce our guests, Carole Malone is here, broadcast journalist and political consultant, emma burnell morning, ladies. Morning. This is just infuriating. Carole, isnt it, when see these isnt it, when you see these idiots disrupting an evening like this . Well, could be, but ive well, it could be, but ive not read the story because it wasnt on the list. But anyway, i of briefly looked at it i kind of briefly looked at it at but yeah, i think the at home. But yeah, i think the great thing about Just Stop Oil now, its hard to say now, i know its hard to say theres anything great about now, i know its hard to say theresbutything great about now, i know its hard to say theresbut the1g great about now, i know its hard to say theresbut the great at about now, i know its hard to say theresbut the great thingyut now, i know its hard to say theresbut the great thing is them, but the great thing is i think given the tories a think theyve given the tories a bit yeah, you know, bit of a boost. Yeah, you know, i think rishi was able to introduce those policies the way he to and slow down he did to and kind of slow down the to net zero because of the road to net zero because of these people, because theyre so against is an irony against it, which is an irony them the great them there, which is the great irony, it . A irony. Irony, isnt it . A total irony. You know done them. They you know hes done them. They have done him a big favour. Know, the but also you know, the theatre. Emma its not cheap going to the theatre. Trust me, because i go a lot and youre not going much change as not going to get much change as a for a ticket, as a playwright for a ticket, as a playwright, know . Yeah i get playwright, you know . Yeah i get what trying to do, but what theyre trying to do, but they their they are damaging their arguments the whole time by these of guerrilla tactics. These sort of guerrilla tactics. The thing. These sort of guerrilla tactics. Agree the thing. These sort of guerrilla tactics. Agree with the thing. These sort of guerrilla tactics. Agree with their|ing. 100 agree with their intentions. I just dont think their tactics are sensible or their tactics are sensible or the way to persuade people. I mean, there is a slight irony in the fact that les mis is actually a play about a revolution. Yeah. So and theyre staged. They timed the protest. So they timed the protest. So when theyre trying to storm the bastille, absolutely lutely. So i mean, you know, you could make the case that this is probably the best play for them to be at. It seems to have been slightly dampened down in terms of how people actually i dont think people go, oh yeah, think most people go, oh yeah, les a really les mis, its a really revolutionary play. Yeah, i revolutionary play. But yeah, i just , as i say, i 100 just yeah, as i say, i 100 agree with what they want , just yeah, as i say, i 100 agree with what they want, but i just as carole said, i think they might be damaging their cause. What do you think they could do, though, to make as much impact . Were all talking about it every time they do this. Well, this is the thing we are. But were talking about them than climate them rather than about climate change. For me, change. Right and that for me, what we should be talking about is how transition away from is how to transition away from fossil fuels, how to make sure that we have the Energy Infrastructure really infrastructure that we really need this country, how to need in this country, how to have charging infrastructure have the charging infrastructure for vehicles and for electric vehicles and instead, were talking about this group and their tactics. And i dont know that thats persuading more people to come on with the kind of things on board with the kind of things we need. Think during the and you think during the lockdown, carol, all the theatres shut and they got theatres were shut and they got very little support the very little support from the government. Its a struggle. Government. So its a struggle. And this theatre has had to and now this theatre has had to refund all the money to the people who are going because they production. They cancelled the production. The antipathy and thats why the antipathy towards grows every single towards them grows every single day. Emmas right, you day. You know, emmas right, you know Everyone Wants to get know, Everyone Wants us to get to zero. I dont think to net zero. I dont think theres on the planet theres a person on the planet that want us to get that doesnt want us to get there. But what we want to do is at a pace that that doesnt there. But what we want to do is at a pthe that that doesnt there. But what we want to do is at a pthe countryt doesnt there. But what we want to do is at a pthe country while nt there. But what we want to do is at a pthe country while were wreck the country while were doing and thats what kind doing it. And thats what kind of rishi said. And thats of rishi has said. And thats why many people are kind of why so many people are kind of on over this. Said, on his side over this. He said, you we do want to get you know, we do want to get there, but we want to make sure that before we out the that before we chuck out the oil. And took out fossil oil. And we took out fossil fuels, weve got something in place it. The these place to replace it. The these guys have the country guys would have the country brought a standstill. Theyd brought to a standstill. Theyd have the dark. Have the country in the dark. That cant work. And sensible people all people know that there are all kids in the 20s who have not really have they . Really lived a life, have they . Yeah. Well, yeah. Well, yeah. I mean, thats thats the thing. They young thing. They are young and enthusiastic and inexperienced and and probably and idealistic and probably terribly and sweet. Its terribly nice and sweet. Its just whether their tactics are working or not. And thats thats terribly nice and sweet. Mean, you know, you to damage you dont go trying to damage works and dont go works of art and you dont go trying disrupt an entire city trying to disrupt an entire city and stop people getting the hospital. Youre nice and hospital. If youre nice and sweet. Describe them sweet. I wouldnt describe them as that. I think theyre zealots and and, you know, im and fanatics and, you know, im trying to think if i was their age, whether doing that, age, whether id be doing that, you i was marching on you know, i was marching on things, marched for things, you know, i marched for causes. I think has causes. However i think this has gone too far now. I really do. You can make a protest. What did you march for . Oh, im. Oh, im in c everything did. Were in c and everything i did. Were you really well, i was in newcastle university. You really well, i was in neiyoutle university. You really well, i was in neiyou know iversity. You really well, i was in neiyou know someone you werent you know someone you werent with those women greenham with those women at Greenham Common. Know. Common. You know. With them. I did but i agree with them. I did agree with them. This a revelation when this is a revelation when youre page, when youre on the front page, when youre on the front page, when youre 20, of course you do. I youre 20, of course you do. I didnt with the greenham didnt agree with the Greenham Common i was common. It was fantastic. I was eight years old. I got taken by my mum. It was just an absolute foundational experience you foundational experience. Did you stay stayed night stay there . We stayed one night so werent there permanently. So we werent there permanently. Were a tent, but we we were in a tent, but we were a tent. Were in a tent. And we. We went, yeah. And we. We went, marched around the base. Did you see Carole Malone there . Remember. Carol there. I think im a lot older than you, so i cant believe you. You, so i cant believe you. This was just for people who were watching. Would too be were watching. It would too be young. Know what were young. But you know what were talking about. This was about nuclear disarmament. They bringing American Nuclear disarmament. Thejmissilesinging American Nuclear disarmament. Thejmissiles ontog American Nuclear disarmament. Thejmissiles onto british can Nuclear Missiles onto british soil,. Soil, onto a british base, staged protest, and staged a big protest, and they were for of were there for a couple of years. And it was and it was a very anti mrs. Thatcher, wasnt it . Whole thing. It . The whole thing. And remember, i lived in the shadow of newcastle university, and remember, i lived in the sh. And of newcastle university, and remember, i lived in the sh. And hadewcastle university, and remember, i lived in the sh. And had i castle university, and remember, i lived in the sh. And had i didnt university, and remember, i lived in the sh. And had i didnt go iversity, and remember, i lived in the sh. And had i didnt go myself, so and i had i didnt go myself, but there. So any but i had pals there. So any march that was on, id go for a, oh, look, we got a little bit of footage on Greenham Common, not very footage on Greenham Common, not verjmalone you would never have malone you would never have stayed i would never have stayed there. I would never have stayed there. I would never have stayed you never stayed there. You would never stayed. Emma . Emma a rebel here. Emma is a true rebel here. Emma is a true rebel here. Can see that. Well my mum i can see that. Well my mum was true rebel. Was the true rebel. The one who took me shes the one who took me near newbury. Berkshire. Right. Okay. So berkshire. Berkshire near newbury . Isnt it near newbury . Somewhere that. And somewhere like that. And i remember to it a remember going to it as a reporter and being appalled by the smell. Well, im sorry. It smell. What did it smell people not what did it smell of people not having revolution . Having washed revolution . They have yeah, well, they have revolution facilities. Yeah, well, they have revoluti was cilities. Yeah, well, they have revoluti was cilit a s. Yeah, well, they have revoluti was cilit a campsite revolution. Revolutionary smell as they probably were probably did as they were storming bastille victor storming the bastille in victor hugos very fast. Hugos very fast. Than your after worse than your socks. After two pierce. Look at this. Two days. Pierce. Look at this. One of these people could so one of these people could be malone that were be Carole Malone that were looking at. Malone. There i would have. Theres caroline would be wearing nice clothes. Look is that with that stupid hat on . They were all on drugs, werent wearing werent they . Id be wearing cannabis. All on cannabis. Theyre all on cannabis. Theyre all on cannabis. Cannabis . Cannabis. Theyre all on can no, s. Cannabis . Cannabis. Theyre all on can no, youre1abis . Cannabis. Theyre all on can no, youre too 5 . Cannabis. Theyre all on can no, youre too young. We no, youre too young. We cant speculate. What about your mum . About your mum . Mum . What about your mum . Speak for mum. Speak for mum. Right. Right. Right. Ill probably get high from the yeah. All right. Ill probably get high from theyeah. All right. So. So from yeah. All right. So. So from something. Feel 40, 50 something. What . Feel 40, 50 years ago to something yesterday. 40 years. Rishi sunak speech. Right. Carol. What did you make of it . Were you grips to be fair, hes never going to have that kind of umph in making a speech that someone like pretty patel. I mean, i thought that speech never mind whether you agree with what she says it was mesmerising. You couldnt take your eyes off it. He hasnt got that. However, all of that said, he still looked a bit nerdy. He still sounded little bit weedy still sounded a little bit weedy at however, if you at times. However, if you if you if you dig down into the a lot of the content, a lot of what he said, it was, i thought it was very important. And i think it also the kind of speech that also was the kind of speech that people who the past year people who for the past year have wanted to vote tory and it said themselves, cannot said to themselves, i cannot vote for currently the way vote for them currently the way they are. What are they doing . I think that would give them permission tory the permission to vote tory at the next election because he next election because because he looked looked stable looked steady, he looked stable. Hes got, you know, i mean, i think i think i think cancelling hs2 was was a smart , brave move. Hs2 was was a smart, brave move. He knew he was to going come in for opposition. I think getting his wife to open that was super. Did she not speak for too long . Oh, no. I thought no. I thought once she did one because we never expected her to be there. I wanted hear every word she wanted to hear every word she said, too. I thought it was heartfelt and it didnt seem like to me. Heartfelt and it didnt seem like to me. Mean, like staged to me. I mean, im not sure believe the bit where not sure i believe the bit where she he doesnt know what she said he doesnt know what im im pretty im going to say. Im pretty sure did. Yeah, he did. Sure he did. Yeah, but he did. But thought it was heartfelt but i thought it was heartfelt and she was speaking. I think amanda patel said it in the paper this morning. Said she paper this morning. She said she was like some was speaking not like some dutiful, silly wife she was speaking man that shes speaking about a man that shes proud and i thought and proud of. And i thought and i thought really good. But thought it was really good. But i on back to his speech, i mean, on back to his speech, i thought his stuff on immigration and experience this and his experience of this country really moving. Country was really moving. I thought was incredibly moving thought it was incredibly moving. When he about. I thought when he talked about his granddad going to his granddad and going to westminster him Westminster Hall with him and making phone call and he said, making a phone call and he said, you cant granddad. And you cant do that, granddad. And he said, no. And he was ringing his first landlady, his his very first landlady, his father , for when he first came father, for when he first came to country to tell her to this country to tell her where was his son. So where he was with his son. So and to me is a story of and that to me is a story of like hope. And he said after that, dont ever let anyone tell you this country is racist. You can come here with very little and you can end up in downing street. Thought that was street. And i thought that was that really moving. That was really moving. Also said on that and he also said on that point, said, im point, didnt he he said, im proud be the first asian proud to be the first asian Prime Minister but he also said, but no big deal. Very but its no big deal. Yeah, very interesting observation. I absolutely agree. I mean, i think been really think its been really interesting have had interesting that we have had a number of ethnic minority leaders, politicians as chancellors and itjust doesnt chancellors and it just doesnt seem to be, you know, commendable almost. Now, you know, this is just normal. This is what britain looks like. And thats great. Yeah i mean party sadly, but anyway. Well, yeah , the labour anyway. Well, yeah, the labour party have a few issues on that. Weve never had a woman leader. We havent had an ethnic minority leader and we might well have the first female chancellor they win the next chancellor if they win the next election. So that would be amazing. But yeah, there are amazing. Um, but yeah, there are. But yeah, i say the point is that we just dont think of this as a big deal, which is great because weve come so far. Yeah, we were just talking about the 80s and i remember some really, really nasty incidents about his assertion which has got him into hot water with some people. A mans a man and womans a woman. I was punching the air when he said that. Good for him because hes been attacked by the usual lot. But isnt that isnt i know. But isnt that isnt that an easy thing have to that an easy thing to have to say . That someones going to get attacked man a attacked for saying a man is a man a woman . Man and a woman . I welcome saying it. I welcome saying it. I welcome saying it. I mean, im gender i mean, im im gender critical, i think weve critical, as i think weve discussed before. I dont believe the concept of believe in the concept of gendenl believe in the concept of gender. I think its a social construct that puts people into boxes that they dont necessarily in. Do necessarily belong in. Um, do i wish this debate would go away a little bit . Yeah it just seems so high up the agenda now. And even someone like me who has been really passionate about it is getting a little kind of is just getting a little kind of can we talk about the economy . Can we talk about the economy . Can we talk about the cost of living . We talk about. Living . Can we talk about. But theyre going to talk about because because about this because because labour said when he labour keir starmer said when he was question, was asked the question, can a woman have cervix is only woman have a cervix is only a can, only a woman have a cervix and he said its not a straightfonnard well, labour have come a long way in the last year on this issue and their National Forum has National Policy forum has has basically based basically reinforced sex based rights, which is whats happened is theyve been told not to talk like that anymore. Been not to, not theyve been told not to, not to obfuscate it in that way anymore he did it. Anymore because he he did it. Rachel did it. The pair Rachel Reeves did it. The pair of them themselves up in of them wrapped themselves up in knots saying, is man . Knots saying, what is the man . Got themselves into and they got themselves into a trouble. Theyve a lot of trouble. And theyve got themselves back into a more sensible position. Think people will i dont think people will forget had be forget that this had to be clarified. Why did it have to be clarified . That should an clarified . That should be an instinctive a man, a instinctive answer. Is a man, a man, woman . That man, a woman, a woman . That should be an instinctive thing, in i mean, i think in my view. I mean, i think there are instincts that are there are two instincts that are coming against each other coming up against each other here. The biological there is the biological reality all grow reality that we all grow up knowing, there the knowing, and there is the instinct of kindness. And there are certain number of people who dont with gender dont identif by with the gender that sex that that matches the sex that theyre born and need theyre born into. And they need to be treated with compassion. To be treated with compassion. And most of the time treated as as with respect in terms of how they want to live their lives. Completely agree with that, emma, but how do you explain the attitude of the trans activists who are not kind people . Well, i agree incredibly unkind what theyve said about jk rowling. Its appalling. And you know, whenever a demonstration whenever theres a demonstration and shouting and theyre shouting to, you know, to terfs , i mean, know, to kill terfs, i mean, that not kind, know . That is not kind, you know . No, i think there is a no, but i think there is a very, very noisy minority who behave like that. And then most of us just want to let of us who just want to let people live their lives, youre the should be who the people who should be who should be at the forefront. But youre its but sadly, youre not. Its those activists who are at the forefront of the whole movement. And a shame because forefront of the whole movement. Athink a shame because forefront of the whole movement. Athink it a shame because forefront of the whole movement. Athink it stops. A shame because forefront of the whole movement. Athink it stops. I shame because forefront of the whole movement. Athink it stops. I thinke because forefront of the whole movement. Athink it stops. I think itbecause i think it stops. I think it stops people who dont know what understand about transgender. I understand about transgender. I think it stops them wanting to understand when they see those activists out in force , which activists out in force, which is a shame. I think i probably well, i think i probably agree i its agree with you. I think its similar to the Just Stop Oil thing. I would like to see a better debate about sex based rights and where those sometimes come up against trans rights and how we have that sensible discussion is really important. But the visible beauty of the way that this discussion happens and ive been on on the receiving end of it myself and it makes it so hard to have that because its terrifying, frankly i yeah, it is. 5mm yeah, it is. I think about the abuse. Rosie duffield on the labour benches for taking. Well, rosies a good friend of mine and shes had a terrible time. She has her own colleagues from some of her own colleagues. Shes also had lots of support from other other. Yeah so i went to university canterbury, so to university in canterbury, so i time i ever voted was in i first time i ever voted was in 1997, in canterbury. 1997, in canterbury. Did you see andrew boff from the London Assembly . Carol being escorted out from the speech for a little bit of heckling over the gender ideology that looks billing . He muttered something. He muttered something. He muttered something. It was a bit heavy handed, wasnt it . Its not good. Didnt wasnt he allowed back in, though . Wasnt he brought back in. Yeah. Because Suella Braverman said it was an overreaction. It was an overreaction. And was overreaction. And suella was quite that. But overreaction. And suella was quite that. But i quite right to do that. But i suppose what they did was they didnt know how far he was going to maybe maybe they didnt to go. Maybe maybe they didnt know to be more. Weve got the pictures on screen. Andrew doesnt look like your average tory activist. So normally theyre suited and booted. A member of booted. Hes been a member of the assembly for about 15 the London Assembly for about 15 years hes a tory party years and hes been a Tory Party Member years. Hes the member for 50 years. Hes the most unlikely and of most unlikely heckler. And of course, hes rather course, hes hes rather enjoying but were enjoying it. But what were the police doing him . Police doing with him . He said was you see what he said was theres no such thing gender theres no such thing as gender ideology. What he mean by ideology. What did he mean by that, emma . I think one of the questions that is, is this an that comes up is, is this an ideology . Is a belief system ideology . Is it a belief system thatis ideology . Is it a belief system that is based in basically ideological points of view rather than , you know, treating rather than, you know, treating people more medically and that is one of the big contentions. Is one of the big contentions. So he was effectively saying this debate is being weaponized into an ideology which is trying to change peoples opinions via a sort of propagandist means. And hes saying its not that this is just individuals who want to live a certain way, whereas i would say its the trans activists who are making it absolutely made it is it absolutely made it into it is they demanding that we they are demanding that we believe they believe. Believe what they believe. You there to and, you know, there has to be choice whether you believe be a choice whether you believe it or not. To me , it is an it or not. To me, it is an ideology. And if i dont choose to believe it, i dont expect to be castigated or cancelled because of that. And that, im afraid, happening to afraid, is what is happening to people of power. People in positions of power. Uniform of the air so the uniform of the air steward , air hostess, host we steward, air hostess, host we cant call them trolley dollies anymore. We cant call them trolley dollies. I think of all the things you cant call them trolley dollies, probably the main one. Im probably going to get to a lot of trouble on. So she said, said either she said, ive said it either that or next time you go on that or the next time you go on a youre going to get a a plane youre going to get a drink. Yeah, exactly. A plane youre going to get a drirso yeah, exactly. A plane youre going to get a drirso british xactly. A plane youre going to get a drirso british ainnays have so british ainnays have introduced a gender neutral uniform. It were uniform. Here it is. Were looking on screen. If looking at it on screen. If youre on the radio, youre listening on the radio, its polo shirts. So its basically polo shirts. So a dark blue polo shirt a dark blue polo shirt with a little trim the sleeve. Little red trim on the sleeve. And for the men, it appears and then for the men, it appears to be is that trousers . Hes i cant really see. He looks like hes a skirt. Hes wearing a skirt. Looks like hes got he looks like hes got shirts. Is he wearing a skirt . Hes got skirts. Okay. There is an option. Oh, my so there is an option. Oh, my word. Theres an for word. So theres an option for the that involves a skirt the men that involves a skirt and sort of blue and red and a sort of blue and red cravat. Theres clearly a suit in the middle. Presume in the. In the middle. I presume that. Dont. That. No, i dont. Whats point of this . Whats the point of this . Whats the point of this . The whole point is, so the whole point is, i guess that they are much more augned guess that they are much more aligned in terms of uniform. Its going to be a cost saving issue, it, this is issue, isnt it, emma . This is probably i dont care if probably look, i dont care if men to skirts. Men want to wear skirts. Why shouldnt they . If you want wear skirt, wear want to wear a skirt, wear a skirt. You want to wear a skirt. If you want to wear a trouser, wear a trouser. But i am a woman. British ainnays. British ainnays, no, but british ainnays, women no, but british ainnays, worbut no, but british ainnays, wor but why no, but british ainnays, worbut why do care . I mean, but why do they care . I mean, it doesnt make difference it doesnt make any difference to individual. As i say, to that individual. I as i say, like theyre saying, does. Like theyre saying, it does. Sex rights one thing, sex based rights is one thing, but telling people what they should shouldnt is should and shouldnt wear is just again, that for me is about enforcing gender stereotypes rather than smashing lots of air. Companies have uniforms. If you dont want to wear the uniform of that company, dont go work for them. That is their rules. Women in rules. And what the women in this company are saying that theyre saying that these are andros business uniforms and theyre to cater for theyre being made to cater for non binary colleagues and the women. What the women wear is being want to wear is being ignored. Know, if, if ignored. So, you know, if, if non binary people have rights, why shouldnt women have rights . I mean , youve just said it. I mean, youve just said it. If you go to work for a company, you wear the uniform they give you, theyre making they give you, theyre making the uniform to cater for a very small section of the workforce. Small section of the workforce. I mean, it looked to me like there were two different options. I believe theres a trouser option and a skirt option. So people can wear what they want. Theres also a modern jumpsuit. The bigger problem for me is that all polyester. That its all polyester. Well, is what the yeah, well, this is what the women complaining about. Women are complaining about. Right was completely. Right and i was on an easyjet recently and i said the guy , is that suit said to the guy, is that suit hot . He said, you cant know how uncomfortable this is. Its really its theres really because its theres a skirt and trousers. Horrible skirts and trouser opfions horrible skirts and trouser options women , a tailor, options for women, a tailor, three piece suit for men and a modern jumpsuit , which anyone modern jumpsuit, which anyone can wear. And going to the loo in an aeroplane in a modern jumpsuit that a nightmare. That would be a nightmare. This polyester suits because this is to please emma. Is not going to please emma. Well, there not. Oh, yeah, well, there not. Oh, look. Oh, it looks very. Think yeah, well, there not. Oh, l like oh, it looks very. Think yeah, well, there not. Oh, mike the it looks very. Think yeah, well, there not. Oh, mike the modern. ery. Think yeah, well, there not. Oh, mike the modern. Its think yeah, well, there not. Oh, mike the modern. Its lovely i like the modern. Its lovely jumpsuit tied in at the waist. Well, and i jumpsuits well, and i hate jumpsuits because of a size that they because im of a size that they just do not look good on me. I just do not look good on me. I just look terrible. But you do look fab in polyester, carol. I do, yes. Okay. Thanks, ladies. Right. Coming up, to go live to up, were going to go live to the singh the sentencing of Jaswant Singh chail, found guilty of chail, who was found guilty of treason after being found with a crossbow. If you remember, in the windsor. The grounds of windsor. There. Good hello there. Very good morning. Jonathan vautrey morning. Im Jonathan Vautrey here weather here with your gb news Weather Forecast provided by met forecast provided by the met office. Mixed office. Definitely a mixed picture during picture across the uk during today. Already rain today. Weve already got rain spreading northern spreading into parts of northern ireland. A wet, ireland. Really quite a wet, damp to the day that damp start to the day here. That is pushing its way into western parts scotland will parts of scotland and will eventually reach parts of Northern England and wales as well. But southeast areas of england even the england and even the far north east scotland the north east of scotland in the northern largely northern isles, staying largely dry the with dry for most of the day with some spells well. Well some sunny spells as well. Well be Eastern England that be south Eastern England that sees higher temperatures, be south Eastern England that sees generally temperatures, be south Eastern England that sees generally reaching ures, though, generally reaching around 19 c, a bit cooler where you are stuck underneath the rain and particularly for northeast scotland, around 12 c. There quite gusty at times. Some gales around the irish sea coastal areas that rain there will spread its way eastwards as we head throughout this evening and overnight, eventually a few drabs, pushing their way across southeastern areas as well. But most places largely dry most places largely turning dry as into the second half as we head into the second half of the night. Still just some random their random showers pushing their way through lot of cloud through at times. A lot of cloud around, though, still around, though, and still the breeze place. That will breeze in place. So that will help mix up the air and prevent our temperatures dropping too far of us seeing far at all. Most of us seeing quite a mild night around 14, 15 c. We then see lingering 15 c. We then see this lingering rain push its into rain start to push its way into parts scotland throughout parts of scotland throughout friday. As it heads friday. This pulse, as it heads in on in the afternoon as in later on in the afternoon as well, provide some quite well, could provide some quite heavy and persistent rain. So worth watching that. But worth watching out for that. But again, fine dry start again, a fairly fine dry start and day across and end to the day across southern areas with some sunny spells in there as well. Temperatures beginning to climb with southerly with that southerly airflow around higher as we around 21 c. Even higher as we head the weekend. Enjoy around 21 c. Even higher as we headweekend. Neekend. Enjoy around 21 c. Even higher as we headweekend. Bye end. Enjoy around 21 c. Even higher as we headweekend. Bye bye enjoy around 21 c. Even higher as we headweekend. Bye bye. Enjoy your weekend. Bye bye. Well, after the break, were going asking the tory going to be asking you the tory mp, davies, in a great mp, philip davies, in a great person here on gb news. If rishi sunak beginning and sunak is beginning to look and sound like good morning. 11 00 on thursday, the 5th of october, britains newsroom here on gb news with Andrew Pierce and bev turner. Well, its finally happened. I ending this long running i am ending this long running saga. I am cancelled. The rest saga. I am cancelled. The rest of the hs2 project. Of the hs2 project. Thats the Prime Minister saying goodbye to hs2 and hes unveiled £36 billion worth of Network North transport projects to replace that line between manchester and birmingham , which manchester and birmingham, which is now not going to happen. A smokeless generation rishi sunak has said that increasing the legal smoking age annually will single biggest will be the single biggest intervention in Public Health in a generation. A generation. And just before theyve done it again, this time theyve brought a performance of Les Miserables at the sondheim theatre in london to a halt. Five people arrested. Protesters were welcomed by the were not warmly welcomed by the audience, least. No audience, to say the least. No youre not. Ski people. Ski people. Ski people. Monty python , that reaction. Monty python, that reaction. Monty python, that reaction. Naughty people. Naughty people. Naughty people. Very naughty Record Record high rents. The average rent outside of london has risen to almost thousand £300 a month. Very naughty. Very naughty. Very naughty. Im not laughing at the rent. Im not laughing at the rent. The newspapers are going to trap that woman down. Very naughty people. And ask her, did she watch live for brian . Very naughty. Yeah. The rent for story is awful. Sorry. Laughing im sorry. I was laughing through that. Us know your through that. Let us know your thoughts this morning. Email us gbviews gbnews. Com. First, though, heres rhiannon with you. You. News. Thank you. Good morning. Its 11 01. Your top stories from the newsroom. The Prime Minister will tell leaders they need to join forces to protect europes borders from criminal gangs. Borders from criminal gangs. Rishi sunak is travelling to spain for a summit a day after almost 700 migrants arrived on the Canary Islands in wooden boats. On the sidelines of the main meeting, hell co chair talks with the italian Prime Minister on the rising levels of illegal migration. Downing streets also expected to announce initiatives to increase intelligence sharing with belgium , bulgaria and serbia. Belgium, bulgaria and serbia. Rent prices for homes have increased to the highest level on record. The average charge on record. The average charge for a property excludes london is now almost £1,300 a month. Its the 15th consecutive quarter that the record has been broken in the capital. Average rents rose to more than £2,600 per month. The research by rightmove also shows demand is higher , with properties higher, with properties receiving 25 inquiries compared to eight before the pandemic. To eight before the pandemic. Property expert russell quirk says the rise was inevitable for supply. So the amount of rental Properties Available has also dropped. So the numbers state that theres about 35 fewer Properties Available. So youve got demand up supply down. Theres only one inevitable consequence of that, which is that prices will increase significantly as indeed they are the transport secretary says cancelling hs2 will allow investments that fit the needs of the country. Its after the Prime Minister announced the northern leg of the high speed rail line has been scrapped. Former prime been scrapped. Former Prime Ministers Boris Johnson and David Cameron both criticised the decision, saying that a once in a Generation Opportunity has been lost. Mark harper told gb news the facts have changed every penny that we save from cancelling that thats £36 billion and reinvest ing every penny across the north of the midlands and the rest of the country on important transport, transport, infrastructure that the people of this country want. So i think thats just changing what were investing still investing in transport, but having invested points that fit the needs of the country and recognise the facts have changed about the cost of hs2. About the cost of hs2. A man who broke into Windsor Castle with a loaded cross bow to kill the late queen is due to be sentenced for treason. Be sentenced for treason. Jaswant singh chail was found on the grounds on Christmas Day in 2021, while Queen Elizabeth was in residence. Prosecutors told in residence. Prosecutors told the old bailey jail was encouraged to kill by an Artificial Intelligence girlfriend. The maximum sentence for treason is seven years. The Scottish Government signed an extradition order for a man accused of faking his own death to avoid prosecution. Nick rossi is wanted in the us for allegedly raping a woman in 2008. He was arrested in glasgow in 2021, but claimed it was a case of mistaken identity and that hes an irish orphan called arthur knight. That hes an irish orphan called arthur knight. After a long arthur knight. After a long legal battle, hell now be transported to the states to face the charges against him. Face the charges against him. 3000 people have been evacuated from tenerife after wildfire was reignited in the north of the island over the summer. Nearly 40,000 acres of woodland were burnt , forcing thousands of burnt, forcing thousands of tourists to be evacuated from the area. Hot weather and strong the area. Hot weather and strong winds caused the fire to restart yesterday. Temperatures are yesterday. Temperatures are expected to reach close to 40 degrees in the coming days. And degrees in the coming days. And southern and thames water have been identified as standout poor performers by an industry watchdog. The Consumer Council for water says more than 20 Million People were being let down because the firms failed to deal with issues raised by their customers as complaints to southern water were almost three times higher than the average for water and sewerage companies. This is gb news across the uk on tv in your current Digital Radio and on your Smart Speaker by saying play gb news its by saying play gb news now its back to andrew and. Bev back over to andrew and. Bev those blaming Water Companies are outrageous, awful and theyre now disasters that our water bills are going to go up about £150 extra next year so they can invest in improving the service, improving sewer. They should be that should be coming out the dividends they gave to shareholders. Yeah, absolutely. Let were being horribly let down, our water down, i think in our water suppues. Supplies. Now, the Prime Minister, you know, policies know, its a lot of policies yesterday, including smoking yesterday, including a smoking ban, a levels, ban, scrapping of a levels, getting the hs2, northern getting rid of the hs2, northern link. Didnt much link. But you didnt talk much about of living crisis about the cost of living crisis or inflation, debt waiting lists. Did he even mention migrants . M i grants . Migrants . No, i dont think he did, did he . Well, they are, of course, his five key priorities. He also his five key priorities. He also said that people are right to be exhausted with the politicians who are all talk and no action. There was plenty of talk in his party speech, Party Conference speech, of course. Voters think that course. But do voters think that he man of action . Lets he is a man of action . Lets have a quick listen for that. That westminster is a broken system same goes for system and the same goes for holyrood, bay holyrood, cardiff bay and stormont. Is anger and stormont. It is an anger and its an exhaustion with politics in particular, politicians saying things and then nothing ever changing. Ever changing. So every time i keep listening, you hear it. Im thinking more and more as the 24 hours has gone on of what he didnt say. Actually, he did leave a lot of the immigration to Suella Braverman, of course, but cost of living is but the cost of living crisis is the biggest single issue facing people. Watching this program, listening programme. Listening to this programme. And he it, really, he didnt talk about it, really, did philip davis us. Now, did he . No philip davis us. Now, of course, you know, he is. Hes not only the tory mp, hes the gb presenter on saturday gb news presenter on saturday mornings. I you at mornings. Philip, i saw you at the i dont if the conference. I dont know if you you tore yourself you could if you tore yourself away the excitement of the away from the excitement of the of the speech. Of the final day. The speech. But did you make of it . But what did you make of it . I thought it was a really good speech and look, i mean, i take bevs point that, you know, theres things he didnt theres lots of things he didnt coven theres lots of things he didnt cover, people were saying it cover, but people were saying it was a really long speech. If hed everything in hed covered everything in his speech probably still speech, he probably would still be now. So, i mean, you be going on now. So, i mean, you cant everything. Cant talk about everything. I thought a very good thought it was a very good speech. And obviously big speech. And obviously the big announcement scrapping hs2 announcement was scrapping hs2 and money on and reinvesting that money on transport across the transport systems across the north, what was the north, which is what was in the north. Have been wanting to see for uh, that basis, for ages. So uh, on that basis, it was an excellent speech. He sound like is he did he sound like is he starting sound philip more starting to sound philip more and more a tory . Because and more like a tory . Because thats been quite a lot the thats been quite a lot of the criticism rishi he criticism of rishi that he sounds more like a technocrat, a money man. But was this the was this finally showing his this rishi finally showing his true tory colours . Yeah true blue tory colours . Yeah i dont think its him starting to sound like a tory as far as im concerned. He always has been. I mean, hes certainly far more conservative than Boris Johnson ever was, despite the image that bons ever was, despite the image that boris to try and portray. Boris used to try and portray. So think what hes done, so but i think what hes done, hes come out fighting, think, hes come out fighting, i think, a the last 2 or a bit more over the last 2 or 3 weeks with the net zero announcement, the hs2 announcement, the hs2 announcement, he sort of his announcement, he sort of had his weetabix think weetabix really. And i think that the people like to see this new sort of assertive Prime Minister. I think he likes to get to the bonnet of things. He likes to look at the detail. But now sort of made some now he sort of made some decisions after doing that. I decisions after doing that. I think like this new sort think people like this new sort of assertive going of assertive rishi. Its going down well. Its really interesting to see papers have handled see how the papers have handled it morning, philip, because it this morning, philip, because obviously the right wing press are about fact that are talking about the fact that hes. Its hes making changes. Its a radical new image for the conservative party , new image conservative party, new image for the vision for the future. For the vision for the future. The guardian have picked up on the fact that they say his speech has caused division and ignites a tory civil war. After declaring that hes a change candidate. Did you see it like that . It wasnt an entirely United Conservative Party over the last few days. The last few days. Well, i mean, i the conservative party is a broad church. If you look hard enough, youre always going to find somebody whos going to criticise the leader. That was the case when mrs. Thatcher was Prime Minister it didnt mean that conservative that the conservative party was disunite. It just meant that youve the odd person who youve had the odd person who didnt really agree with that particular an and, and particularjourney an and, and the way that the party was going. But i dont think the parties disunited at all, to be honest. I the parties honest. I think the parties united behind rishi. I think they were egging him on, were cheering were hoping he cheering him on, were hoping he does didnt i does well. So no, i didnt i didnt see it like that. And of course, a change candidate. Course, hes a change candidate. Hes minister. He hes a new Prime Minister. He has different opinions to liz truss. Different opinions truss. He has different opinions to johnson. So of course, to Boris Johnson. So of course, whenever prime whenever you get a new Prime Minister, a change. Just as minister, its a change. Just as when major over for when john major took over for Margaret Thatcher, nobody doubted a change. And doubted that was a change. And the same applies now. About tax , philip you what about tax, philip you know, you dont need me to tell you. And people watching and listening the listening know too well how the tax burden the greatest since tax burden is the greatest since the second world war. He didnt talk about tax at all. Extraordinary. A tory Prime Minister in his Party Conference speech almost certainly the last one before the general election, not mentioning tax or even an aspiration to cut it. Aspiration to cut it. Well, i think he has. He didnt mention it in that speech, but he has made it clear that he thinks that the tax burden is too high. He wants to bnng burden is too high. He wants to bring it down, but he wants to do so in a responsible way when inflation has been brought down. Look, are too high in this look, taxes are too high in this country. Theyre high. Look, taxes are too high in this cou the theyre high. Look, taxes are too high in this cou the highest high. Look, taxes are too high in this cou the highest burden high. Look, taxes are too high in this cou the highest burden ofgh. Its the highest burden of taxation weve taxation that weve weve ever had this and thats had in this country. And thats a of Boris Johnson. A legacy of Boris Johnson. Thats what happened on under bons. Thats what happened on under boris. And got to them boris. And weve got to get them down. Course, i down. But of course, look, i think what need in order to think what we need in order to get we cant sort of say we get we cant just sort of say we need to get taxes down. We need an honest conversation in this country role of country about what the role of the is, because until we the state is, because until we start accepting that the state cant everything and the cant do everything and the state has got to have a much more limited in the more limited role in the country, never to country, were never going to get saying we get taxes down. So the saying we need to get taxes down actually is actually the country having need to get taxes down actually is have lly the country having need to get taxes down actually is have lljdiscussionry having need to get taxes down actually is have lljdiscussion about ng need to get taxes down actually is have lljdiscussion about what to have a discussion about what the and state the government and the state should it should should do and what it should leave to people to do for themselves. And thats a much bigger issue at bigger issue thats at stake here, which actually, philip leads nicely to the issue leads us on nicely to the issue of Smoking Cessation an and whether should be whether the state should be allowed to tell perfectly autonomous adults that they cant smoke a cigarette. Yeah cant smoke a cigarette. Yeah look, i disagree with that. Rishi said it was going to be a free vote in parliament. As both of you all know, ive always thought every vote is a free vote in parliament, to be perfectly honest. But this is officially a free vote in parliament. But i will not be voting with the government on on on issue. Voting with the government on on on issue i voting with the government on on on issue. I think think on this issue. I think i think i cant cant justify that cant i cant justify that policy. People should be free to policy. People should be free to make their minds. Make up their own minds. They should free spend their should be free to spend their own they wish. It own money as they wish. It shouldnt government shouldnt be for the government to nanny state them in way. To nanny state them in this way. So absolutely be voting so i will absolutely be voting against the government when that motion comes before the house. But every labour mp but no doubt every labour mp will with government. Will vote with the government. So think theres much so i dont think theres much chance side of the chance of my side of the argument winning. Wonder though, philip, how argument winning. Vpeoplethough, philip, how argument winning. Vpeoplethougtakehilip, how argument winning. Vpeoplethougtake your how argument winning. Vpeoplethougtake your view many people will take your view because im not because like you, im not a banner instinct. I cant bear the keep banning the idea of people keep banning things. If a lot of people, things. But if a lot of people, a lot of mps take your view, this might not get through now. It will definitely get through. It will. Will through. It will. It will definitely get through. There might you know, few might be a few, you know, a few people will abstain and make themselves absent that day for that vote. But therell a that vote. But therell be a therell be hard core of us therell be a hard core of us who have Freedom Fighters who will vote against the government. Its government. But it will be its like madame tussauds. Andrew like madame tussauds. Andrew its same faces in all its the same faces in there all the you vote against the time. When you vote against the time. When you vote against the government issues. The government on these issues. Thats true. The government on these issues. Tha now, je. The government on these issues. Tha now, is. The government on these issues. Tha now, i wonder if youve now, i wonder if youve discussed this issue with a certain estimate v, certain mp called estimate v, what she do . I know she what would she do . I know she can speak for herself, but have you discussed it with her . Exactly. Just about to you discussed it with her . Iandrew, just about to you discussed it with her . Iandrew, shes ust about to you discussed it with her . Iandrew, shes perfectly. To say, andrew, shes perfectly capable speaking herself. Capable of speaking for herself. I time ago not to i learnt a long time ago not to ever and for esther ever try and speak for esther mcvey, but talking of wives, then lets be a little kinder to you. Talking of wives, Akshata Murty rishi sunaks wife obviously introduced onto murty rishi sunaks wife obv stage introduced onto murty rishi sunaks wife obv stage yesterday. Onto murty rishi sunaks wife obv stage yesterday. Is 1to the stage yesterday. This is divided people. I think it was incredibly saccharin and if estimate v was going to get on stage and introduce you, would she be quite so sycophantic about the fact that youre amazing you have no faults . Amazing and you have no faults . She certainly would not. Absolutely not. No. Shed be struggling to find shed be struggling to find shed be struggling to find to find something good to say about me. I think, to be honest. But isnt that what most in all married all honesty, most married couples that. Couples are like that. Sort of lost me with so she sort of lost me with the whole idea that everythings perfect. It seemed insincere. Look at shelter is a lovely, lovely person. And shes shes lovely person. And shes shes certainly a huge asset for rishi. But also , you know, for rishi. But also, you know, for the conservative party. And i think it was great that she, you know, she obviously said what she wanted to say. Its not for me to tell her what she should say or shouldnt have she say or shouldnt have said. She said wanted to say. And said what she wanted to say. And i thought it was a nice break in between the political speeches. So i say more power to her elbow. Can say akshata is elbow. But i can say akshata is a very, very lovely person. Well, she was one of the unexpected stars of the week, wasnt she . The other unexpected star of the week. Philip was nigel farage at his first tory conference, he told me since 1987, he was mobbed wherever he went. When he came on to the 1987, he was mobbed wherever he went. When he came on to the gb news platform, the queue of people to see him aftennards was enormous. He rishi sunak said he would not mind if he came back to the tory party what do you think . Getting back into the tory party oh yeah, id like id love nigel farage to be back in the conservative party. Thats where he belongs. Nigel is a true conservative in in every in every sense. And, you know, part of our measure of success as a party should be can we get people like nigel farage and people like nigel farage and people agree him back people who agree with him back supporting the conservative party . Surely any any party . You know, surely any any conservative party should be able to be should be looking to get the support of people like nigel farage. Id id love him to be back in the party. And to be honest, if he got back in the party and he got a seat in parliament and stood for the leadership, the bookies leadership, i think the bookies that him as the favourite that have him as the favourite to win that so yeah, to win that contest. So yeah, you saw that at the conference. Nigel popular nigel is a massively popular politician massively politician and massively effective politician and the conservative party needs people of his talent. Hed youd vote for him if he was back in parliament and there was back in parliament and there was election. Was a leadership election. Philip, would have philip, would he would he have your vote . Andrew youre a very naughty boy. Naughty boy. And that just like that lady said that the theatre the said in that in the theatre the other night, youre, youre a very we have got andrew, we have got a very good leader of the party. And whilst ever rishi sunak hes leader of the conservative party, i will support him. All right. Thats philip. Support him. Alldave . Thats philip. Support him. Alldave ishats philip. Support him. Alldave is being philip. Support him. Alldave is being unusually philip dave is being unusually diplomatic. Philip David Starkey david esther every David Carrick with esther every saturday at 10 am. Here on gb news right later today. Jaswant singh kale will be sentenced for treason following a guilty plea after being found with a crossbow in the grounds of Windsor Castle on Christmas Day in 2021. Do you remember that . Its the first person to be convicted of treason since 1981. He also admitted making threats to kill and possessing a loaded weapon. Were going to court now to our royal correspondent, cameron walker, whos live outside the old cameron we havent old bailey. Cameron we havent had since 1981. Thats had treason since 1981. Thats when teenager im old enough when a teenager im old enough to remember it, fired blanks at the queen when she was on her horse at trooping the colour. It was a remarkable thing because everybody was start rattled and shocked and thought she , of shocked and thought she, of course, didnt turn a hair. She was so this is only was unruffled. So this is only the second treason conviction in 40 years. Yeah 40 years. Yeah the queens horse, the beloved burmese, was a little bit startled, but as you said, the queen controlled her horse. That was a Marcus Marcus setchell agent who was sentenced to prison under to five years in prison under the act of 1842. And the treason act of 1842. And Jaswant Singh, shell later on today will become the first person since the 1980s to be convicted, to be sentenced even of the same crime. Just picture the scene. Its Christmas Day, 2021, early in the morning , the 2021, early in the morning, the late queen, Queen Elizabeth ii and her close family members are just beginning to enjoy festivities when a 19 year old man scales the outer perimeter fence of Windsor Castle using a nylon rope ladder. Armed with a loaded crossbow capable of firing lethal force at its targets. Now the safety catch was off and child spent two hours inside the grounds of Windsor Castle, close to the queens private apartment, before being apprehended and challenged by Police Officers. Challenged by Police Officers. Now, kyle told Police Officers that he is here to kill the queen. Now, he was arrested and subsequently charged with three separate offences. The first the separate offences. The first the most serious, the treason under the treason act, section two of the treason act, section two of the treason act, 1842. Intent to injure or alarm the sovereign also making threats to kill and possession of an offensive weapon in a public place. Now, a couple of hours before he entered the grounds of Windsor Castle, he posted a video on whatsapp to family and friends where he spoke of his intention to try and assassinate Queen Elizabeth ii he wore dark clothes and a metal face mask. He said it was revenge for the 1990 in amritsar massacre where british troops opened fire on thousands of indians. He also said he was sorry for what he was about to do. Now, police found a note written by charles, which has been released in the last 24 hours or so. It says , last 24 hours or so. It says, please dont remove my clothes, shoes , gloves, mask, etcetera. I shoes, gloves, mask, etcetera. I dont want post mortem, dont want embalming. Thank you. And im sorry. Well during sentencing hearing, a doctor , sentencing hearing, a doctor, christian brown, who was a psychiatrist , not treating child psychiatrist, not treating child at broadmoor Psychiatric Hospital in london, told the court that child thought he was in a relationship with an Artificial Intelligence girl friend. A chat bot, an avatar named sarai. Now, the court also was told that child was a star wars fanatic and identified as a sith, which is a villainous character in the star wars franchise. And he exchanged 5000 franchise. And he exchanged 5000 messages with this girlfriend. A number of them were sexually explicit, but he said that he wanted to be united with her in the afterlife. And the psychiatrist said that it was part of his plans of working towards his own death. Now, he the chat bot, both discouraged and encourage child to carry out his crimes. That is what the court heard the prosecuting barrister said that the crimes were so serious that this has to attract a maximum possible sentence, the maximum possible sentence, the maximum possible sentence for treason. 1842 the treason act 1842 is seven years in prison. The prosecuting barrister also said that if charles has had raised his weapon at Queen Elizabeth ii, then that would be high treason and a life sentence. Now charles is to going be sentenced later today at the old bailey. But two questions remain merely remain really for me. First of which is how was it that a would be assassin was allowed to Wander Around the grounds of Windsor Castle for two hours before being apprehended by police . And also how was it that an Artificial Intelligence chat bot could encourage someone to commit or try to commit . What would have been the crime of the century . Absolutely fascinating. Brilliant job. Cameron walker, thank you. We were gripped listening to that. I mean, its just the most remarkable case, isnt it , just the most remarkable case, isnt it, that as cameron said, he was able to Wander Around the grounds of Windsor Castle for two hours. It should be the most secure building in the country. But her majesty, the queen was there. The entire royal family were there christmas. There for christmas. Youre absolutely. So if youre thinking, does mean in thinking, what does that mean in a girlfriend, it a ai chatbot girlfriend, it basically somebody body, basically means somebody body, not human Artificial Intelligence entity. Online intelligence entity. Online emulating normal human conversation. And its so conversation. And its so difficult to explain when you Start Talking about these crazy ideas and therefore had persuaded him to commit the crime. The robot using ai and also dissuaded him from committing the crime. But you know, when people say that i might be the demise of humanity, what happens in that situation . If the ai robot had literally encouraged if the ai robot had literally enc incited him to that crime, and incited him to that crime, does the robot end up in the does the ai robot end up in the court . Do you see . You go into us. Were living in the realms of insanity, arent we . We really are. And fascinating and and its fascinating and extraordinary well. Imagine extraordinary as well. Imagine if got to the queen. If hed got to the queen. Absolutely. A lethal weapon. Absolutely. A lethal weapon. Yeah. You never forget, of course, the queen, Michael Fagan , broke into her bedroom. The one found sat on her bed on and they realised on her bed, and they realised there was something up when she sent out for cigarettes at 715 in the morning. And the butler thought or they thought her majesty doesnt smoke when say sent out smoke when you say she sent out for you dont mean for cigarettes, you dont mean like mobile . Like deliveroo on a mobile . No. No. Mean she note to you mean she sent a note to the butler saying, could you send cigarettes in for me . Send some cigarettes in for me . And realised there was and so i realised there was a problem. Clever. Michael fagan got locked for many, many years. She was brilliant, wasnt she . Right. Come, rent she . Right. Still to come, rent pnces she . Right. Still to come, rent prices outside of london hit a record our landlords record high, but our landlords really blame. Youre with really to blame. Youre with britains newsroom on news. Britains newsroom on gb news. Dont go anywhere. Gb news radio. In 26 year with britains newsroom on gb news with Andrew Pearson bev turner. Were going to talk to you now about rents because average adverts , his outside adverts, his rents outside london reached record london have reached a record high of £1,500 a month in the last quarter. Earlier we asked property so earlier we asked property expert residential expert and National Residential Landlords Association representative Landlords Association repr rent. Ative Landlords Association repr rent is ve Landlords Association repr rent is increasing. Why rent is increasing. Theres a huge shortage of rental property , see rightmove rental property, see rightmove points out theres an average of 25 people queuing for each property, and ive had that experience myself. Ive just let a property actually in east london where i advertise this on a friday. It was let by saturday. So its really, really tough for tenants out there. And the main reason is that landlords are starting to sell up quite substantially , 37 tell up quite substantially, 37 tell us that theyre thinking of selling. Why is that . Is that because Mortgage Rates, Interest Rates have gone up , Mortgage Rates, Interest Rates have gone up, mortgage Mortgage Rates, Interest Rates have gone up , Mortgage Rates . Have gone up, Mortgage Rates . Is that the big problem . Is that the big problem . It partly because of it is partly because of Mortgage Rates and making the whole unaffordable. Whole business unaffordable. Really because really but its really because of changes that george of the tax changes that George Osborne brought in in 2015. Liam halligan is with us in the studio business, economics editor. Hes recovered from the minibus experience. We might come on to the minibus before the end of the interview. Liam but this tax issue has changed for George Osborne. What was that and why is it affected this now . It meant that landlords couldnt deduct their Interest Payments on mortgages, on buy to let properties against their tax , so it made it less profitable to buy a flat, a lot less profit, rent and a lot of people bought properties on that basis. So when they did their sums, they assumed that Tax Deduction , when it was taken away, it made a lot of. But what was the what was the logic behind that . Because he wanted because the treasury convinced the chancellor if you take away chancellor that if you take away the Tax Deduction, then theyll get more revenue. Well, there was a lot of people at the time, werent there . That was a time when buying a property renting it buying a property and renting it out, doing as out, people were doing that as an alternative to a pension. And there were people buying lots there were people buying up lots and sense because, you and it makes sense because, you know, you in the know, if i said to you in the last 20 years, whats actually happened ftse 100. Happened to the ftse 100. Gone up and down. Right. Its gone up and down. Its basically yeah its basically been flat. Yeah right. So youve got almost no return. Unlike in us stock return. Unlike in the us stock market. And thats why lots of people ended as people have ended up as accidental landlords. Theyve theyve moved on up the housing ladder as their family have expanded. Theyve maybe, you know a property and know, kept a property and remortgaged using lower Interest Rates in order to buy the bigger place. And so theyve ended up with 1 or 2 properties. And a lot of these kind of, you know, amateur landlords , they found amateur landlords, they found the property game tough. You the property game too tough. You know, the tax the Tax Advantages arent there. Theres more red tape, more rigmarole, more aggro. And so they just dont want to rent their properties anymore. They to sell them. Anymore. They want to sell them. But thats whats but and thats whats driving these higher so lets these higher prices. So lets have look at them. I have a quick look at them. I know them earlier, know you mentioned them earlier, but reiterate, so the but just to reiterate, so the average rent now 1200 average uk rent is now 1200 £1,278 a month. Would that be a 1 or 2 bedroom flat or. Yeah, well, it depends. Yeah, its not specific because its the, the average property and thats 10 higher than this the, the average property and thats10 higher than this time last year, which is obviously very considerable. But 10. But 10. But 10. But check out london. The average rent in london is £2,672 average rent in london is £2,672 a month. And thats12 up on a month. And thats 12 up on 2022. So thats the rent rises. But then as we also heard there from the National Residential Landlords Association, its also a question of home search, how many people want each property and the average rental property, according to rightmove, is attracting 25 inquiries. Us now that doesnt mean necessarily visits that might be email inquiries or phone inquiries, but it still shows that demand is very, very strong and theres a of properties thats a shortage of properties thats up on inquiries only this up on eight inquiries only this time year each time last year for each property. The hottest rental market. Why do you think it is . Which city . Which town . Brighton its really . Why luton . Really . Why luton . Really . Why luton . Which is just 30 odd miles north of london, id say its partly luton is obviously well known. It has a very strong and proud ethnic minority community. So if youve weve had quite a lot of immigrant from the indian subcontinent, so i imagine a lot of people there will be joining up with their their friends and relatives in and then but relatives in luton and then but also other towns and cities where rents are more than 20 up over the last year. In over the last year. In loughborough, preston , edinburgh loughborough, preston, edinburgh and paisley. So this isnt just and paisley. So this isntjust and paisley. So this isntjust a london and the south east thing at all. It isnt just an england thing at all. Rents are highest in london, which isnt surprising, but rents are going up faster. East outside of london. Why paisley in scotland . Why paisley in scotland . Why paisley in scotland . Because its quite near edinburgh and its i imagine its you know, its near both the big major cities. Obviously and its obviously, you know , a and its obviously, you know, a smaller place, maybe a nicer place to live for a lifestyle. Transport links preston is an interesting one in the north west so about half an hours north west so about half an hours drive from manchester 40 minutes dissimilar minutes not dissimilar to liverpool from there. And i guess also if you dont want to live in big city, want to live in the big city, but you may work in and you probably get more for your money in than would nearer manchester. Yeah. W yeah. Quite well and actually quite well connected the train line connected with the train line connected with the train line connected the train connected with the train universities around there. Some of this might of course, some of this might be its be students. So its interesting. Not about interesting. Its not just about the rent, its also the level of rent, its also about rate of change of about the rate of change of rent. But look, being doubt, about the rate of change of renitoryt look, being doubt, about the rate of change of renitory party, being doubt, about the rate of change of renitory Party Conference, oubt, the tory Party Conference, i spoke at various fringe meetings on on housing because its one of i specialise in. Of the issues i specialise in. And just such a big and it was just such a big topic, not just the number of homes were building to buy, but rentals. And one reason i think rentals. And one reason i think there were so many young people at Party Conference at conservative Party Conference is because they were attending these housing fringes. Were these housing fringes. They were trying lobby and inject the trying to lobby and inject the idea that we are young people. We need somewhere to live. We have to build more homes. And yet the Prime Minister, in liam, didnt talk in his speech, liam, didnt talk about at which about housing at all, which i thought an enormous mis big thought was an enormous mis big gaffe as opposed to liz truss, who her sort of evangelical who in her sort of evangelical fringe meeting , if you like, fringe meeting, if you like, which is one of the biggest stories of the conference, right . Hundreds of people were queuing couldnt get in the queuing who couldnt get in the room she speaking. Room where she was speaking. Housing was very big housing was a very, very big part of her pitch in order to get growth growing, she said. We need build more homes and on need to build more homes and on that, a lot people that, at least a lot of people would agree. I think youre absolutely would agree. I twe youre absolutely would agree. I twe need re absolutely would agree. I twe need to absolutely would agree. I twe need to move |tely would agree. I twe need to move on. � would agree. I twe need to move on. We right. We need to move on. We didnt get to talk about didnt even get to talk about our minibus drunken ride home yesterday, liam, but you were a big player in that. You were a terrible influence, still terrible influence, right . Still to price a stamp is to come, the price of a stamp is now much the card inside. Now as much as the card inside. Youll never guess how much a first class stamp costs. First class stamp now costs. Well about that in a well talk about that in a minute. Is the news first, minute. Here is the news first, though, with rihanna. Bev, thank you. Its coming up to 1133. Your top stories in the newsroom. The Prime Minister the newsroom. The Prime Minister will tell leaders they need to join forces to protect europes borders from criminal gangs. Rishi sunak has arrived in spain travelling to granada for a summit on the sidelines of the main meeting, hell co chair talks with the italian Prime Minister on the rising levels of illegal migration. Downing streets also expected to announce initiatives to increase intelligence sharing with belgium , bulgaria and serbia. Belgium, bulgaria and serbia. Rent prices for homes have increased to the highest level on record , and the average cost on record, and the average cost for a property excluding london, is now almost £1,300 a month. In the capital, average rents rose to more than 2600 per month. The research by rightmove also shows demand is higher with properties receiving 25 inquiries compared to eight before the pandemic. To eight before the pandemic. And southern and thames water have been identified as stan doubt poor performers by an industry watchdog. The Consumer Council for water says more than 20 Million People were being let down because the firms failed to deal with issues raised by their customers. Those complaints to customers. Those complaints to southern water were almost three times higher than the average for water and sewerage companies. And you can get more on all of those stories by visiting our website , gbnews. Com. Website, gb news. Com. Direct website, gbnews. Com. Direct bullion sponsors, the finance report on gb news for gold and silver investment. Gold and silver investment. Heres a quick snapshot of todays market. The pound will buy you 1. 21, two, 5 and ,1. 1540. The price of gold is £1,502. 40 per ounce, and the ftse 100 is. At 7428 points. Ftse 100 is. At 7428 points. Direct bullion sponsors the finance report on gb news for physical investment. Physical investment. Still to come this morning, did you watch penny mordaunts speech yesterday . Stan stand up and fight. Stand up and fight. Stand up and fight. Motivate , sing or little motivate, sing or little bazaan little bazaar. Little bazaar. Little bazaar. Britains newsroom here on. Britains news channel. And is now 1139 and only get the time wrong at this point. Dont say its 1039 because were having such a fabulous time. This is britains news. And when gb news with Andrew Pierce and bev turner, lets have a look what been have a look what youve been saying at this morning saying at home this morning talking hs2 and talking about hs2 and rishi sunak will sunak announcement that it will be birmingham to manchester. Trevor says since when was manchester north . Manchester or leeds the north . Well, always. About well, always. What about newcastle . Shouldnt have newcastle . Shouldnt it have started same usual. The started here . Same as usual. The real is forgotten about real north is forgotten about it. Im hoping the North Manchester is the north, but i take your point. Often when we do talk about the north, we do say manchester, leeds and liverpool. So youre quite right, probably trevor to correct us, to not, to not forget about newcastle. Carole forget about newcastle. Carole malone course also malone would of course also support yeah. Geordie and support it. Yeah. Geordie and then on the dangerous dogs issue, susan said i dont agree with dog licencing. The criminal wouldnt bother with them. Also theres many elderly people whove dogs for company whove got dogs for company may not be able to afford a licence. Well, they to 37. 5 well, they used to be 37. 5 pence, so can be cheap , it pence, so it can be cheap, it can be a cheap licence and pensioners arguably get it free. Yeah, but in a way. Pensioners arguably get it free. Yeah, but in a way. Exactly. But yeah, but in a way. Exactly. But also as some people dont drive with insurance on their car, you know, they will dodge it. People who dont want to have it. And then she says, anyone who says that all dogs should be muzzled in public is being ridiculous. That you, she says, that was you, andrew. She says, maybe wear a muzzle that was you, andrew. She says, m. Stop wear a muzzle that was you, andrew. She says, m. Stop you wear a muzzle that was you, andrew. She says, m. Stop you coming near a muzzle that was you, andrew. She says, m. Stop you coming out� a muzzle that was you, andrew. She says, m. Stop you coming out with uzzle to stop you coming out with ridiculous to stop you coming out with ridi itsnus to stop you coming out with ridi its difficult to did you its difficult to do. Did you say that . That is ridiculous thing to say. Jack russell should be muzzled. No, they shouldnt. No, they shouldnt listen. Most no, they shouldnt. Most dogs, 95 dogs do not need dogs, 95 of dogs do not need a muzzle in public. Yeah, but what about the 5 who do . Well any dog anywhere can can bite someone under can bark, can bite someone under the right circumstances if theyre scared , if someone. Theyre scared, if someone. If they cant, well , no, but if they cant, well, no, but but, you know, you cant. People could say that all of us. Could say that about all of us. Well right. Whoever said well theyre right. Whoever said that, could. No, you that, it could be could. No, you cant. Are allowed freedoms cant. Dogs are allowed freedoms to, im sure. Emma, just briefly , emma emma, just briefly, emma burnell is here as well. Burnell is here as well. Emma, what do you think . Should all dogs be muzzled . No no, i dont think so. No, i dont think so. I find this really complicated. I mean, we seem to be getting more and more anti dog. There are so many parks and things where you cant take dogs anymore. Yeah, but the anymore. Yeah, but at the same time, so people seem to time, so many people seem to have dogs during lockdown. Have got dogs during lockdown. They you walk they did. I mean, you walk around my area now and its just absolute full of dogs and theyre all poodle mixes. Theyve all got that very curly hair. The stat that really stuck with me about these xl bully dogsis with me about these xl bully dogs is that in july of this yean dogs is that in july of this year, they killed a dog a day. So even though they cant count account for a very small number of dogs, they ive got a list here january the 12th, 28 year old woman killed in katamon , old woman killed in katamon, surrey, january the 31st four Year Old Girl killed by an xl bully. April the 22nd. A 51 year old man killed. Jonathan hogg, 37, man killed. Jonathan hogg, 37, may killed by an xl bully. September 14th. Father of two ian price mauled to death by two xl is a no brainer. October the third. Ian langley yeah , its third. Ian langley yeah, its a no brainer. I think they they account for 75 of deaths of people from dog attacks, but theyre a tiny percentage of the dogs that we have. I mean, the difference between an xl bully and my parents, charles spaniel is parents, king charles spaniel is really quite a bit. But also these horrible dogs kill other dogs, too. Yeah one day. Its interesting. Its interesting. Its interesting. I heard a guy say very recently on the radio, he had two of them. He said, i did everything right. I was responsible. I went to a proper breeders. I trained them. He said within a i realised said within a year i realised that they do anything. That that they can do anything. They at any time they want, they want at any time they want, he said. And i realised that that no human control the that no human can control the unpredictable was responsible. Its so big and theyre too strong. Yeah, right. Yeah, right. About people with talking about people with a strong bark and possibly a strong bark and possibly a strong bite. Penny mordaunt. No. Going . Where you going . Where you going . Yesterday called on her there yesterday called on her tory faithful stand tory faithful to stand up and fight think fight against labour. I think were see little clip were going to see a little clip of arent we . Lets just of it, arent we . Lets just watch, if we can, the clip of penny morton, because it sort of has be seen to be believed, has to be seen to be believed, really. Stand up really. Her tubthumping stand up and when you stand and fight because when you stand up and fight the person beside you who stands up and fights and when our party stands up and fights the nation stands up and fights the nation stands up and fights. Fights. And when our nation stands up and fights other nations stand up and fight, have courage , up and fight, have courage, bnng up and fight, have courage, bring hope. Stand up and fight. Stand up and fight. Thank you. Conference. Are you two just conference. Are you two just ridiculous . Ridiculous . I dunno. Give a woman a sword once and it goes right to her. I know exactly. I know exactly. That is penny, the leader of the house of commons leadership contender. Of course. I dont know. Just people know who she is. Okay, but i thought that was. Okay, but i thought that was. I know you just said its tubthumping. I thought we needed i know you just said its tlbit|umping. I thought we needed i know you just said its tlbit|untubthumping,1t we needed i know you just said its tlbit|untubthumping,1t w know, ed a bit of tubthumping, you know, im who shes fighting im not sure who shes fighting though. Well, shes talking the tories together and tories getting together and standing, we all standing, fighting. When we all get together, when the nation gets together. Was trying a mrs. Thatcher. Well, she. She cant. Well, she i thought that she cant, but i thought that kind i thought was kind of. I thought it was strong. It looked assured. I think she sounded a bit embarrassing. Carol, did you . Yeah, it was. Yeah, just when we was yeah, she just did. When we was 2 3 times too many. 2 or 3 times too many. When we fight, the people fight. Its stand and fight was the theme she had to keep repeating. But im not sure what were fighting against. Emma. Emma. A bit confused. Im a bit confused. Like stand fight. Im a bit confused. Like sta|what fight. Im a bit confused. Like sta|what who it. Im a bit confused. Like sta|what who with . Like, tell what for who with . Like, tell us a little bit more about this fight. Picking emma, picking. Picking emma, picking. Othennise, were just being were all sort of were just we all sort of sitting home kind of drinking sitting at home kind of drinking a and going, youre a cup of tea and going, youre trying angry, but im. Trying to get me angry, but im. Sort of angry about you im sort of angry about you at the moment. It was. It was quite bizarre. It was interesting because she was sunak was introducing rishi sunak wasnt she . Yeah. She was. Wasnt she . Yeah. Yeah, she was. She she didnt think she was. Well, she didnt think she was the warm up act. She was the. She was the. She was the. She thought she was the act. And think thinks she might and i think she thinks she might be a year or so time. Be that in a year or so time. Yeah, it is interesting. Yeah, it is interesting. She has changed in the past year remember when year because remember when she was for leadership, was fighting for the leadership, she fumbling she was stumbling and fumbling all place. Shes had all over the place. Shes had lessons then. Lessons since then. Yes, she has. It looked very rehearsed. It was very rehearsed. But it was also shes had lessons in there, a commons performer. Shes a good speaker. Shes a good person. But i think i think she went bit went off she just went a bit went off half cocked. I dont think shed be a good pm either. I dont think shed be a good pm isither. I dont think shed be a good pmi have to say, i dont think i have to say, i dont think she has the i have a big issue with her because shes not going to into that subject again. But if she was the one who famously said in the house of commons, talked about commons, she talked about pregnant know, pregnant people, you know, the pregnant women. Yes. Yes w yes. Yes into that now yeah. Get back into that now because other things. That caused her a lot yeah, that caused her a lot of victorian mps. Yeah, okay, lets move yeah, right. Okay, lets move on. Cops protecting us from on. Gone cops protecting us from charges whats this charges or we quit. Whats this about, carol, this is remember a couple of weeks ago, the 300 of the carrying cops the 3000 did gun carrying cops in down their arms in london, laid down their arms handed them in because one of their charged their colleagues was charged with murder after chris kaba was killed last year. 24 year old so the cops said at the time , they said, you at the time, they said, you know, we have to have special laws to protect us against this, against being charged with murder. Every time we discharge a weapon. And now theyre saying that that, you know, theyve come work but come back to work now, but now theyre saying theyre saying its a reprieve until they get some of guarantee, some kind of guarantee, some kind protect section, that kind of protect section, that they will quit. Now, kind of protect section, that they will quit. Now, you kind of protect section, that they will quit. Now, you know, they will quit. Now, you know, im im with them 100 on this. It doesnt mean that cops should be allowed to fire whenever they like how dont. They have. Be allowed to fire whenever they like and dont. They have. Be allowed to fire whenever they like and they dont. They have. Be allowed to fire whenever they like and they dont. Exactly. |ve. Be allowed to fire whenever they like and they dont. Exactly. You no. And they dont. Exactly. You know, one person was killed in this last year by a cop. This country last year by a cop. The year before that, one person by america, in the last by a cop in america, in the last three months, nearly 3000 people are killed cops. So we are being killed by cops. So we are being killed by cops. So we are america. Were not are not america. Were not theyre trigger cops. Theyre not trigger happy cops. But theyre but but i think theyre right. You , you cant have you know, you cant have a National Inquiry every time they discharge a weapon know, discharge a weapon and you know, we about the we cant talk about the circumstance surrounding chris kaba this man has now kaba because this man has now been charged with murder. But the come out and the facts will come out and there will be a defence as to why this this cop did fire when he so, you know. Yeah they he did. So, you know. Yeah they have to be safeguards for the pubuc have to be safeguards for the public against cops making mistakes. But you know, 99 of the time they dont make. The time they dont make. Do you think they need a special protection emma, or not . No, i think that they should be under the same laws as the rest of us. If they. But you dont carry a gun. I dont carry a gun. I would never carry a gun. But they have but they have but they have to. But they have to a gun in order to do to carry a gun in order to do theirjob properly. If they use their job properly. If they use that gun to not do their job properly and to, in fact, kill someone who may have been innocent there innocent, then of course, there has to be an inquiry into that. Of course, it needs to be looked into. You know, these are this is are split second is these are split second decisions. Is these are split second dec if ons. Is these are split second dec if there is this an inquiry, if there is this an inquiry, a criminal criminal charge, every time , whos going to want every time, whos going to want to be an armed Police Officer . Yeah, exactly. Well, people who dont want to a split second to kill people in a split second decision have to be able to kill people. Emma, if you you take that emma, if you if you take that job we need those cops on job and we need those cops on the streets to protect us, theyre not doing it for fun. Theyre doing it to protect us. Well, like say, well, its like you say, were not america. These are not, know , likely to happen not, you know, likely to happen very often. But when they do it, obviously has to go through a proper process because thats thats how you make sure that we have oversight and they are protecting us. But we have to be aware there, you know, who watches the watchmen and all that. We have to be able to have that. We have to be able to have that policing by consent and what that means is the policing has oversight. Has oversight. But youre quite right to say there should be a process. S but there should be a process. S but that process shouldnt automatically start and end with automatically start and end with a murder charge. Yes, i dont a murder charge. Yes, i dont think does. Think it does. I dont think there is anyone charged murder on other charged with murder on other occasions have occasions when people have been shot police, have been shot by police, there have been an process. I think it an oversight process. I think it was through the independent Police Commission Police Complaints Commission Rather than there being a criminal charge. So i think for it to get to the level of a criminal charge is extremely rare. And i think that some thing must have gone wrong there. My worry is that this man has been charged with murder because of the public outcry at the time and since over this mans shooting. And it would be shooting. And it would be a terrible thing if cops were charged with murder to placate people who think they should be. And that is my word. Is there too much Political Correctness creeping in here into the met police . No , ive got a great no, ive got a great reputation up. Say no, they dont. And ive been one of the first people to slate them over over a lot of the bend cops that are in the met police but but on this thing im them right right. Im with them right right. David beckham. David beckham. Oh fascinating that documentary. Theyve got a new kind of fly on the wall that landed on netflix, i think yesterday morning. Have you watched any of it, . Are you deeply it, emma . Are you deeply interested in the beckhams . Really. I interested in the beckhams . Really. I mean, interested in the beckhams . Really. I mean, hes not really. I mean, hes a pretty lad. Shes a pretty girl. But i find the whole thing i mean, theyve theyve done with their celebrity very, very well for them. And good for them. Good on them. Hes a local lad near where i live. So you know, another good reason to like him and support him. But i theyre not the kind of famous im particularly interested in. So but what have you seen it, carol . What do you make of any of these clips . Okay. And im wondering if this whoevers in charge of their pr and know who it is their pr and i know who it is because its the person thats been charge of their pr for been in charge of their pr for years. Know, has had years. You know, this has had more publicity than the meghan and harry documentary. And Harry Netflix documentary. Its incredible. But the thing thats morning is thats got me this morning is reading stuff about his ocd reading this stuff about his ocd , ocd. And a few years , davids ocd. And a few years ago, i read a story about how he would wear a pair of trainers once and then throw them away and i thought, oh, god, and i thought, oh, my god, thats thats so. He got thats thats so. Well, he got them free off nike or them for free off nike or whoever. Its terrible. Its terrible. But so terrible waste. But even so terrible waste. But theyve let us look but now theyve let us look inside his wardrobes. His inside his wardrobes. All his underpants colour and underpants are colour coded and colour coded. And first of all, he socks are in a row. Its a bit mad. And you see him in the kitchen scrubbing Something Like a coffee machine and hes saying, my wifes not too happy about this. Well, she wouldnt be. Its a bit. A bit. Its extreme behaviour. Its very, it is very. Its very, it is very. But then he, but then he is a sportsman be honest, sportsman and to be honest, elite athletes are often its chicken and egg isnt it . They are driven to be brilliant not because they have that obsessive mindset, right, but within that obsessive mindset it comes a bit of a curse that they cant switch it off. And thats what, of course, hes retired now. So all of that energy that was previously going into football is now dispersed elsewhere. Thats right. My husbands got a bit of ocd. The kid, hes not got ocd around the house, sadly, but he does have it in the kitchen. And if i drop like a spot of olive oil on on a thing, hes there with a cloth. And i think, what do you have a surface on a Kitchen Floor . Its two drop olive oil and wipe it up. Yeah, hes there and it drives me mad. Drives me insane. If i put drives me insane. And if i put a dirty knife down, he takes it away and i think, oh, so i cant imagine what life victoria is like. Its like thats full on. That throughout the whole house. Does she smile all during does she smile at all during the documentary . I dont think you know what . I dont think she smiles, ever. I think she ever smiles, ever. I think shes told she doesnt look shes been told she doesnt look as when does. As pretty when she does. Its hard to remember a shes its hard to remember a picture of smiling. Has picture of her smiling. It has to shes very self to be that shes very self conscious, had that kind of pouty thing. You know, she clearly believes thats how she looks best. Say, shes a very best. And as i say, shes a very pretty woman. Yeah, you pretty woman. So, yeah, you know, shes know, shes know, shes you know, shes started makeup range now. Started a makeup range now. Interesting and its interesting that shes shedloads. Shes making shedloads. Shes making money her making no money out of her clothing range. Thats right. Yeah. Thats right. Yeah. This makeup youve got this makeup range, youve got no i know , every no idea. Everyone i know, every woman i know has bought some of no idea. Everyone i know, every wormakeup w has bought some of no idea. Everyone i know, every wor makeup and as bought some of no idea. Everyone i know, every wor makeup and theyre ht some of no idea. Everyone i know, every wor makeup and theyre going, e of the makeup and theyre going, oh, contour oh, shes got this contour thing. Im thinking, have you . Mean, you . N ean,yes. You . M ean, yes i. You . Mean, yes, i bought i mean, yes, i bought a silver eyeliner. Did you know i havent bought any of it. Ive bought nothing because i dont believe it. I just dont believe the hype. You know, shes talking about this contour thing, this pencil that suddenly makes you look your nose, look wafer thin make it look like wafer thin and make it look like you like angelina jolie. Well, how ridiculous. Well, how ridiculous. Well, how ridiculous. Well, i have a contour stick from another brand. So, mean , honestly, isnt so, i mean, honestly, isnt it ridiculous . But is you it ridiculous . But this is you know, why makeup brand know, why this makeup brand is doing because doing so well . Because on instagram media, instagram now on social media, the teenage girls in particular are hooked on these makeup videos. Yeah , my niece watches hooked yeah, my niece watches hooked on endlessly, endlessly obsessed with makeup. Well, do you buy stuff off insta . Because i am tempted to buy every thing i am. I do. And i get sucked in and im normally very good. But the algorithms are so powerful and i click through and then ive bought something. Ever been on instagram . Ever been on instagram . You darling . We know because you cant dont know how to cant get you dont know how to do should you should have you should you should have seen a parking seatbelt on in the minibus coming back from i can imagine all can just imagine you all complicated the drink on the can just imagine you all comthere ed the drink on the can just imagine you all comthere was the drink on the can just imagine you all comthere was a the drink on the can just imagine you all comthere was a lote drink on the can just imagine you all comthere was a lot ofirink on the can just imagine you all comthere was a lot of drinknn the can just imagine you all comthere was a lot of drink ande bus there was a lot of drink and bev turner drank most of it. There some stiff there was some stiff competition. Believe me. First class now again, is class stamps. Now again, this is one of old versus new, you one of those old versus new, you know, the kind of the digital revolution were in, revolution that were in, really, it . This really, emma, isnt it . This story . Because a first class stamp now costs £1. 25. Thats more expensive than the card. Its absolutely crazy. Yeah. You can car for £50 in you can buy a car for £50 in some supermarkets. Some supermarkets. Send anything anymore . Do you send anything anymore . Do send anything by post do you send anything by post with on . With a stamp on . Do. Yeah. Ive stopped yeah i do. Yeah. Ive stopped sending cards a few sending christmas cards a few years and i just do an years ago and i just do an electronic well. There you go. I did get you a christmas present. There you go. I did get you a cthou as present. There you go. I did get you a cthou did . Esent. You did . You did . Bought you one, too. And i bought you one, too. And i bought you one, too. There you go. You see . There you go. You see . Nice book on cats. Very nice book on cats. Very nice book on cats. Was. Was. Yeah, ive used stamps all the time. Yeah, but i think this well yeah, but i think this would be my last christmas card. Yeah. Paying yeah, yeah. Im not paying 125. Yeah, but post office are but you know the post office are justifying this and saying justifying this race and saying that, the volume of that, you know, the volume of people letters has gone people posting letters has gone down from billion because down from 20 billion because its so expensive. Yeah. Its so expensive. Yeah. Something seven now because Something Like seven now because back in 2004 it was £0. 28 to send a class letter. Now send out a class letter. Now its £1. 25. Shocking. No ones going to frankly, they dont get there any quicker than a second class. Supposed to be next day delivery. Next day. Delivery. Its never next day. Never. Right. Never. Right. Thank so much. Ladies, thank you so much. Emma Carole Malone, emma burnell Carole Malone, great you always. Great to see you as always. Weve the end of our weve come to the end of our show now were going to be back with britains newsroom tomorrow morning with britains newsroom tomorrow mo hello there. Good hello there. Very good morning. Jonathan vautrey hello there. Very good morrwith Jonathan Vautrey hello there. Very good morrwith j news. N vautrey hello there. Very good morrwith j news. Weatherr here with your news. Weather forecast the met forecast provided by the met office. Definitely a mixed picture across the during picture across the uk during today. Weve got rain today. Weve already got rain spreading into parts northern spreading into parts of northern ireland. Wet , ireland. Really quite a wet, damp the day here. That damp start to the day here. That is into western is pushing its way into western parts of scotland and will eventually parts of eventually reach parts of Northern England wales as Northern England and wales as well. Southeast areas well. But southeast areas of england even far england and even the far north east the north east of scotland in the northern isles, staying largely dry of day with dry for most of the day with some sunny spells as well. Well be southEastern England that sees higher temperatures, sees those higher temperatures, though, reaching though, generally reaching around 19 c, a bit cooler where you are stuck underneath the rain and particularly for northeast scotland, around 12 c. There quite gusty at times. Some gales around the irish sea coastal areas that rain there will spread its way eastwards as we this evening we head throughout this evening and overnight, eventually a few drabs, way across drabs, pushing their way across southeastern areas as well. But most largely turning dry most places largely turning dry as into the second half as we head into the second half of the night. Just some of the night. Still just some random pushing their way random showers pushing their way through lot of cloud through at times. A lot of cloud around, though, still around, though, and still the breeze place. That will breeze in place. So that will help the air and prevent help mix up the air and prevent our temperatures dropping too far all. Of us seeing far at all. Most of us seeing quite mild night around 14, quite a mild night around 14, 15 c then see this 15 c as we then see this lingering to push its lingering rain start to push its way parts of scotland way into parts of scotland throughout friday. This pulse, as it heads in later on in the afternoon well, could provide afternoon as well, could provide some persistent some quite heavy and persistent rain. Watching out for rain. So worth watching out for that. Good afternoon. 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