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Is the best country in the world to be black because it is a country that sees people not labels and cheaper food shopping for the first time in two years, theres been a monthly drop in food prices. Will this trend continue . Will this trend continue . Were going to get the thoughts of minister of state for of the minister of state for food this morning here at the tory. Tory. Conference your first tory conference. It is it is. Were going to be talking in a moment as well to a woman here who has a stand. Shes a baker and she met rishi sunak this morning. She gave him his favourite cake. Were going to chatting her in just a to be chatting to her in just a moment. Your thoughts moment. Email us your thoughts as well. This morning. Vaiews gbnews. Com. But first, heres with heres the news with Erin Armstrong. Armstrong. Good morning. Its 931. Im good morning. Its 931. Im Erin Armstrong in the gb newsroom. Businesses are demanding immediate clarity as confusion continues over the future of the northern leg of hs2. Theres growing speculation the government is planning to scrap the birmingham to manchester leg because of soaring costs. But the Prime Minister insists the decision is yet to be made and rishi sunak is expecting to make an announcement about the project at the conservative Party Conference tomorrow. Junior doctors are expected to hold a rally outside the Conference Centre in manchester later. Theyve started a three day strike in england alongside consultants in a row over pay. Radiographers have also walked out this morning for 24 hours, meaning tens of thousands of patients will be unable to have scans. The British Medical Association wants the government to return to the negotiating table, warning if a credible deal isnt offered new strike dates will be set for november and december. The government says this years pay rise was a final and fair settlement, but the government is set to ban trans women from female hospital wards. The Health Secretary, wards. The Health Secretary, Steve Barclay, is expected to say the plan will help restore common sense to the nhs. In his common sense to the nhs. In his speech at the tory conference, hell announce proposals to push back on wokery in the health service. He told the telegraph the move will protect womens rights. Under the changes, trans rights. Under the changes, trans patients would be treated in separate accommodation in the price of a monthly food shop has fallen for the first time in more than two years. Prices were down by 0. 1 in september compared to the previous month. Thats according to the British Retail Consortium. It brought the annual rate of food inflation down to 9. 9. Thats the lowest point since last august. And now the group which lobbies on behalf of the industry, says its because of fierce competition between the supermarkets. Thats it for the supermarkets. Thats it for the moment. More on our website gbnews. Com and thats it from me. Now back to andrew and. Bev me. Now back to andrew and. Bev good morning. Thank you for joining us. Were at the tory Party Conference in manchester. You might have noticed there is a first tory conference i dont think i can remember how many tory conferences been many tory conferences ive been to, think the first one to, but i think the first one was mrs. Thatcher was was 1988. Mrs. Thatcher was Prime Minister neil kinnock was labour and its been all labour leader and its been all downhill since then really. So downhill since then really. So i dont know how many tory leaders ive known. And are they different now . How different are they really . Whats different now . They are incredibly controlled , are all incredibly controlled, bold, and its all very formulaic. So if theres votes on the floor, the leadership dont care. The same will happen at labour conference at the labour conference and its much more commercial. So here we in commercial here we are in the commercial area. Exhibitors area. Youve got big exhibitors like british telecom, the national union, across National Farmers union, across the and this is the way from us, and this is important all the important revenue for all the political parties. Labour will have a people at their have a lot of people at their conference too, next week. Well, this morning i was chatting to a lady who had just met rishi sunak, so shes joined us here on the stand. Lauren baker and you are a baker . I am, yeah. I love that. I am, yeah. I love that. How . With a name like that, what else could you be . How was rishi sunak this morning . Oh, he was spent so much time he. He spent so much time with me. He chatting. He was with me. He was chatting. He was talking his family. He has talking about his family. He has his daughters are into horses. He says he has a real big, sweet tooth. So ive gifted him some cake. And he said hes going to enjoy with a cup of tea. Enjoy them with a cup of tea. Now, what cake did you give him . Ive give him the chocolate brownie and a victoria sponge and a lemon drizzle, which youve right front of youve got right in front of drizzle here which his drizzle here now, which is his favourite think said lemon favourite i think he said lemon yes, i think thats absolutely right. Politicians do fib, as you know. That know. But i think that is probably. Tony, offer to pay . It was pay . It was all very rushed. It was all very rushed. So thats a no then look, its the its the royals. It was a gift from me. Okay. But its the royals who dont carry money. Politicians should always money. On always carry money. I was on that to you. Only the that stand next to you. Only the other have i got it other day. Buying. Have i got it here . Got it. Ive got it here . Ive got it. Ive got it out. Later, my tory boy. Beermat. Oh, okay. Oh, okay. Yeah, yeah. And i. But i paid for mine. Unlike the Prime Minister. Well, do you know what i was watching him going around the stands this morning and there was stand provide dogs was a stand that provide dogs for visually impaired people. Was a stand that provide dogs for vhe ally impaired people. Was a stand that provide dogs for vhe genuinely � ed people. Was a stand that provide dogs for vhe genuinely spentople. Was a stand that provide dogs for vhe genuinely spent ale. Was a stand that provide dogs for vhe genuinely spent a lot and he genuinely spent a lot of time talking. Im sure time talking. And i im sure weve seen before, sometimes politicians the best politicians do not have the best social in world. But politicians do not have the best swas in world. But politicians do not have the best swas really in world. But politicians do not have the best swas really impressed,. D. But politicians do not have the best swas really impressed, i. But politicians do not have the best swas really impressed, i have i was really impressed, i have to say, watching interact, to say, watching him interact, i was i was pleasantly surprised. I cant like say how nice he was so nice. He was he was interesting. He spent he wasnt spent so much time. He wasnt rushing. He just was genuinely interested business. And were you surprised by that . I really surprised. I was really surprised. I thought it would just be a quick in and out job wasnt. In and out job and it wasnt. Im severely dyslexic, so he was spending time talking to me about that. Talking about about that. And talking about conferences this is conferences before. Nope this is my first one. Prime time. Youve so first prime time. Youve met Prime Minister as well. It met a Prime Minister as well. It is, did you think is, yeah. What did you think youd think of him . I dont i didnt i dont know. I didnt really. I didnt. I wasnt. Really. I didnt. Iwasnt. I didnt think of anything, really. I just was shocked that obviously was coming round. Really. I just was shocked that obvonlyy was coming round. Really. I just was shocked that obvonly foundis coming round. Really. I just was shocked that obvonly found outwming round. Really. I just was shocked that obvonly found out last; round. Really. I just was shocked that obvonly found out last night d. That. Can i ask why . Why . You thought youd bring the business here this week . Thought it would i just thought it would be a great opportunity. And i struggled in school, so i just wanted to show young people and my well that keep my son as well that if you keep going. Started in lockdown. Going. I started in lockdown. Lockdown amazing for me. Going. I started in lockdown. Lochrew1 amazing for me. Going. I started in lockdown. Lochrew my amazing for me. Going. I started in lockdown. Lochrew my businessg for me. Going. I started in lockdown. Lochrew my business and me. Going. I started in lockdown. Lochrew my business and just its grew my business and just to show if you keep going, you dont give up. And are you selling lots of cake of tories got a sweet tooth. Yeah im doing all right. Yeah. Yeah a of presents yeah. Yeah a lot of presents for wives. Yeah yeah. Yeah. Dont overthink that. Dont overthink that. Lauren. Name is lauren. And your name is lauren baker. Your company is called bakers bake. Is. Shes great. Is bake. It is. Shes great. And is it doing well . Yeah, doing great. So yeah, im doing great. So i do all artisan markets. I do a lot with independent street, whose with this week whose im here with this week andits whose im here with this week and its just independent businesses, independent businesses, independent businesses , all small. I mean businesses, all small. I mean i work from my home. Do you. Yes. Not on a very lively place to be. Yes, it is. Yes, it is. And were all small independent businesses. We all work super hard. You see us in winter getting up freezing cold. But were a family. And thats whats so nice. We all help each other. Yeah good. Brilliant. So just how much would it cost me to buy £5 . £5 cheap at the price. £5 cheap at the price. Everythings cheaper in manchester. I love coming here. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. And youve got a lovely accent, by the way. Oh, thanks. And is your second time on and this is your second time on television you were a television because you were a model young. Model when you were very young. I yes, i was. I was on this yes, i was. I was on this morning when i was little. Princess beatrices dress. Oh, really . Oh, i on a rocking really . Oh, i was on a rocking horse, she looked familiar. Horse, if she looked familiar. Explains fabulous. That explains it. Fabulous. Is that right, lauren, you that explains it. Fabulous. Is much. Jht, lauren, you that explains it. Fabulous. Is much. Very auren, you that explains it. Fabulous. Is much. Very much. You that explains it. Fabulous. Is much. Very much. Luck so much. Very much. Good luck and enjoy cakes. Theyre on and enjoy your cakes. Theyre on me. We dont mind buying them. No, no. You can have them. No, no, no. You can have them. Theyre gifted. Going to come give were going to come and give you some cash. Okay . You. Okay . Thank you. Okay . Thank you. Dont to be we dont want to be associated with these politicians. Thanks, lauren. Okay. Thanks, lauren. Okay. Lovely to see you. Lovely to see you. Calls his own so despite calls from his own mps to stick with the hs2 rail project, there now reports project, there are now reports that will that the Prime Minister will axe the multi billion pound projects leg from projects final leg from birmingham to manchester. Joined lord were joined now by lord balfe who the peer who balfe kelly, who is the peer who was brought in to conduct an independent of whole independent review of the whole hs2 project. And that report was commissioned by Boris Johnson, lord youre lord berkeley, its your youre going to get your way. It seems were not going to get. I dont were not going to get. I dont we get announcement we might get an announcement tomorrow, pretty tomorrow, but it seems pretty certain birmingham to manchester dead thats going certain birmingham to manchester desave thats going certain birmingham to manchester desave the thats going certain birmingham to manchester desave the taxpayer. Its going certain birmingham to manchester desave the taxpayer. Howoing certain birmingham to manchester desave the taxpayer. How much money . Well, i think probably be 30 or 40 billion. But i hope that hes also going to say that hell spend some of that on building and improving the links between, say, liverpool, manchester, leeds and bradford and in other words, east west, because its fine cancelling a project which has got totally out of control. I mean, the figure for the complete project is now 180 billion and thats a ridiculous amount of money. But the important thing for me is that he, he put some of that of what hes cancelled thing into improving the existing rail links which as many listeners will know is a really awful going east west across the pennines and also from from birmingham to nottingham and derby. The money needs to be derby. The money needs to be spent there, not as much as it will be cancelled by hs2, but quite a lot of it. So will be cancelled by hs2, but quite a lot of it. So i hope quite a lot of it. So i hope hes going to give Something Back to the region as well. Back to the region as well. And how can he make this a good news story . Because it is dividing people actually here in manchester, would you believe when you talk to people, they say, well, were not we were never that bothered actually about getting from london to here in about ten minutes quicker. So to some people here, i am a mancunian it does feel like a triumph of common sense, but he will obviously get a lot of stick for this as well. How does make it positive . Does he make it positive . Well, i think he makes it positive by saying that you can get to manchester from manchester to london pretty well, using the existing trains and get from birmingham to london pretty well. London pretty well. What you cannot do is get so well from manchester to some of the smaller towns in the in the west, in the west of the pennines and across to leeds, where the service is really bad. And i think hes got to give them Something Back and say, you know, within a short period of time , some five years or time, some five years or whatever, well have an improved service. S so that you, youll service. S so that you, youll be able to go and shopping more easily in different cities. Youll be able to get jobs further from your home because youll have a decent rail service to get from one to the other or go to school in college, which people want to see Something Back in return. See Something Back in return. And this is whats failed. And i think andy burnham has been complaining that the line mustnt be cancelled. But on the other hand, hes also being clear , claiming that youve got clear, claiming that youve got to have an improved link east west. So that means its west. So that means its probably going to cost 200 or something billion. And i think something billion. And i think hes sensible enough to know that the government may not have enough money for both. And i think it will be the section from birmingham to manchester that will get cut and hopefully replaced by something going east west , which doesnt have to go west, which doesnt have to go so fast , but it has to be so fast, but it has to be reliable and electrify and easy to use. To use. Can you just explain to us, lord bartley, before we let you 9 lord bartley, before we let you go, the original cost of this project is wretched scheme was about 30 to 33 billion, commissioned by tony blair. I think Gordon Browns government actually Boris Johnson got enthusiastic behind it. So did David Cameron. How did the cost 9 David Cameron. How did the cost go, in your view, from 32 billion to potentially. £180 billion to potentially. £180 billion . Eyewatering im afraid its because its been very badly managed, not just by hs2 badly managed, notjust by hs2 itself, but by the department of transport as well. Transport as well. And weve been trying to dig into their costs, given a government project, youd think they would have to give us information ocean about the real cost, but they havent done so. Cost, but they havent done so. Weve got armies of consulting ets who are being paid a lot of money. The contractors have got some very interesting contracts , which i think mean that theyve trying to save, that theyre not to going lose money if it gets cancelled. But we dont know yet. But its been nobodys kept a real tight grip on the costs like you would do if you were a proper private sector project packed with shareholders who were very, very worried about the cost ballooning. And its none of the ballooning. And its none of the other projects weve seen in the past cost crossrail i used to work in the channel tunnel none of us have got to the stage where weve got a sort of six, 8 or 10 times cost overrun before the thing has even half finished i all right. Lord berkeley, thank you so much for joining us. Thats lord berkeley, who did that independent review into the cost of hs2. And hes been proved right. Absolutely. Yeah, absolutely. Yeah, absolutely. Were joined now by the well, were joined now by the director jl partners, director of jl partners, the pollster scarlett mccgwire. Morning scarlett. How do you think this situation with hs2 will affect the polls . Some people whove been clamouring for hs2 to be stopped in its tracks, no pun intended, will think this is a good sign that common sense has prevailed. And common sense has prevailed. And yet there will be those who think its the north being let down again and being treated as second yeah. Second class city. Yeah. There are two so i think there are two issues here that might affect the polls. First is the the polls. The first is the actual itself and the actual decision itself and the second comms second is some of the comms around i think when you around it. So i think when you think about the actual decision, hs2 voters, a lot of them are very ambivalent. They just dont really then othennise really care. And then othennise theyre i would really care. And then othennise thejthe i would really care. And then othennise thejthe who i would really care. And then othennise thejthe who i woulit sort say the ones who support it sort of support it. The ones of really support it. The ones who oppose it really oppose it. But most of the public are pretty much just dont really know,the problem is its now think the problem is its now beenin think the problem is its now been in the headlines for the last weeks and actually more last two weeks and actually more than else, been than anything else, whats been in headlines is not just in the headlines is not just people are against people who are against the government, the government, but people in the government, but people in the government themselves talking about of about the phenomenal waste of money seen. And money that weve seen. And i think youll see in focus think what youll see in focus groups people sort of groups is people sort of charting as another charting this up as another waste money potentially from waste of money potentially from this u turn, this government. Another u turn, another of a mess. Another just a bit of a mess. And i think actually that might have a bigger impact than the decision on. And also doesnt it look and it also doesnt it look like been like rishi sunak has been dithering watched dithering because ive watched him here. Been around this him here. Hes been around this morning a couple of morning doing a couple of broadcast interviews hes broadcast interviews and hes refusing if line is refusing to say if the line is going to be cancelled. We know its cancelled, its going to be cancelled, Prime Minister. Just when Prime Minister. Its just when you soit Prime Minister. Its just when you so it does look you tell us. So it does look like hes dithering. A not in control and thats not a good look. Exactly. And i think its actually opposite what actually the opposite of what theyre do at the theyre trying to do at the moment. So i think if you think about their net zero push, their car announcements, theyre trying a much trying to paint him as a much more action man rather more sort of action man rather than man, keir than inaction man, as keir starmer said. And i think the problem is, is that even if this announcement perfectly announcement was done perfectly and coming with of and it was coming with lots of other measures, east other measures, perhaps east west something west connections or Something Like then you say, okay, like that, then you say, okay, this some taking decisive this is some taking a decisive decision for the decision thats good for the country. The problem country. But the problem is, just you said, the just as you said, its the dithering that were seeing. And actually last actually thats the last thing people rishi people need to see from rishi sunak, do you think i mean, youve been watching these conferences a long time. Conferences for a long time. Listening to something i was listening to something on day. I on the bbc the other day. I mean, a different mean, theyre in a different conference to me because they say morale is terrible every bodys you bodys on the verge of, you know, themselves off know, throwing themselves off a sixth window. I dont sixth floor window. I dont think ive to conferences think ive been to conferences where the morale is much worse. Like when truss like last year when liz truss was imploding. I its actually yeah, i think its actually really say that every really funny you say that every person i who havent seen person i stop who i havent seen yet is saying exactly the same thing, its not as thing, which is, oh, its not as bad as we thought it was going to be. Yeah i arrived sunday to be. Yeah i arrived on sunday and its a bit and i thought, oh, its a bit dead, bit miserable. But dead, its a bit miserable. But actually picked the actually it picked up on the atmosphere is not so bad. Funny because yeah, its funny because sunak out these sunak throwing out these curve balls, a dilemma balls, which pose a dilemma to starmer. Like how does he now handle the what . You handle hs2 . Whats the what . You know be sitting know what he will be sitting there what i do there thinking, what do i do now . Say i would continue now . Do i say i would continue with to manchester and with hs2 up to manchester and support even though with hs2 up to manchester and support of even though with hs2 up to manchester and support of the even though with hs2 up to manchester and support of the population jugh with hs2 up to manchester and support of the population think so many of the population think its it puts its a waste of money. It puts him a quite a tricky him in a quite a tricky situation. Situation. Yeah, i thats exactly yeah, i think thats exactly it. Exactly what it. And thats exactly what again this conservative strategy doing. Its trying to paint sunak a man who can take sunak as a man who can take strong, bold decisions against starmer, is starmer, who, you know, is characterised least in focus characterised at least in focus groups, but taking any groups, but not taking any positions all. Positions or stances at all. Again actually, i would say that i guess starmer has the comfort of waiting until its actually been formally announced. Yeah, i would would be in his would say that would be in his interest announce a position interest to announce a position pretty because think pretty soon because i think people are getting quite tired of of it appearing that hes of him of it appearing that hes not he about things. Yeah. Yeah. Scarlet , great to talk to scarlet, great to talk to you. Were going to see you. I think were going to see you. I think were going to see you again tomorrow. You probably again tomorrow. Thats scarlett mccgwire. Who is leading pollster now. Kemi badenoch. Into the badenoch. She waded into the culture yesterday here culture wars yesterday here at the about time , the tory conference about time, too. She had to say. I pay tribute to the many womens and lgbt groups such as conservatives for women, sex matters and the lgb alliance, who, despite unbelievable opposition, kept fighting this policy reform , refusing to be policy reform, refusing to be cancelled and speaking the truth. Theres no no other party that will defend common sense. Next week, labour will tell the country that it is ready for government. But ladies and gentlemen , let me ask you this. Gentlemen, let me ask you this. If labour if labour mps wont tell us what a woman is, what else arent they telling us . Oh where do i look at us . So we are joined now by the co founder of lgb alliance, kate harris. Good co founder of lgb alliance, kate harris. Good morning, co founder of lgb alliance, kate harris. Good morning, kate. What harris. Good morning, kate. What did you make of what Kemi Badenoch said yesterday . I thought it was brilliant and it was so it such a highlight was so it was such a highlight for to name them. For her to name them. Of us whove been those of us whove been really fighting the really fighting against the madness , were completely madness, were completely apolitical. Lgb alliance has no apolitical. Lgb alliance has no political allegiance , but for political allegiance, but for three years running weve appued three years running weve applied to each Major Political party to attend the conference. Liberals, labour and the conservatives. And its the conservatives. And its the conservative party whove had us three years running and the others have banned us. So we feel very welcome here. This is the place where youre allowed to speak the truth , and thats to speak the truth, and thats what kemi does and thats what we do. Is there a of is there a bit of frustration, though, that thats just of just because the mood music of the has changed, changed the country has changed, changed to extent . Do you think to some extent . Do you think that the conservative party are just the fact just reacting now to the fact that does seem like there that there does seem like there is common approach to is a common sense approach to transgender issues, which has started to evolve through the media, through conversations and now maybe they could have been supporting you all along. Well we dont look back. We look fonnard. And frankly, thousands and thousands of men and women , but largely women and women, but largely women have driven change not only in england but in scotland. And england but in scotland. And were struggling in wales. But in terms of winning votes, i think every mp needs to get angner think every mp needs to get angrier and happier for every candidate now standing for whatever party needs to look at whatever party needs to look at what is the electorally salient issue of the day. Voters like issue of the day. Voters like the truth. They do not like to the truth. They do not like to be patronised. And it seems to be patronised. And it seems to me that the conservatives are prepared to listen to what weve been saying for years and many other groups. You cannot change sex. A child cannot be born in the wrong body. And for goodness sake, lets not teach them lies in schools. Yeah, well , im just in schools. Yeah, well, im just thinking what Kemi Badenoch said in the speech, and ive been waiting for her to make this speech a long time. Waiting for her to make this spe kate, a long time. Waiting for her to make this spe kate, you. Ong time. Waiting for her to make this spe kate, you and time. Waiting for her to make this spekate, you and i me. Waiting for her to make this spekate, you and i have waiting for her to make this spe kate, you and i have talked kate, you and i have talked about a sense of about this with a sense of pressure, she said it was pressure, but she said it was the conservative government that stopped snp stopped the shameful snp and labour politicians in scotland effectively with effectively going ahead with putting who were putting rapists who were who were as in were identifying as women in pnsons were identifying as women in prisons and also stopping that barmy , trying to stop that barmy barmy, trying to stop that barmy law of teenagers changing their gender at School Without even possibly talking to their parents. Yes. I mean, weve been through whats happened, andrew, is that theres been a coup. Its an attempted coup on liberal democracy. Yeah, because its a whole new set of ideas that make no sense when theyre scrutinised. Thats been forced on the whole population of this country and other countries with no democratic debate. Yes the conservatives have presided over this, but thankfully theyre coming to their senses and drawing back now and saying , no, drawing back now and saying, no, we will go no further with this i when is the education secretary going to stop fussing on about concrete in schools and ive forgotten her name. Whats the educator . Gillian keegan. Gillian keegan. Gillian keegan actually Gillian Keegan and actually give guidance that give the clear guidance that you want schools that say parents want in schools that say parents have told if their child have to be told if their child turns up in the classroom and is going change their gender going to change their gender or their havent going to change their gender or theiithat havent going to change their gender or theiithat guidance. Havent. Had that guidance. We havent. Thankfully Gillian Keegan and thankfully Gillian Keegan and badenoch, we and Kemi Badenoch, we understand, in understand, are engaged in fruitful discussions on this. Because the other thing that must change is that if a parent cannot see rac materials , they should. Thats relationship and Sex Education relationship. They should have the right to withdraw their child. That is fundamental. All so yes, whats fundamental. All so yes, whats happened the dfe is a happened at the dfe is a fascinating case study. I recommend you read an article by Stephanie Davis array of transgender trend. She traces is the influence of stonewall over 13 years through the dfe. You can see the changes in policy that they drove an unelected body who attempts to take over our education system, teach children a pack of lies and develop a pipeline straight to the tavistock clinic where these children end up having, which is going to be closed down, of course, which is being closed down. But there are five new units being set up. And some of the disgraced tavistock staff are getting roles in those. So we can not we cannot relax. Weve stopped the coup to some extent , and the conservatives extent, and the conservatives have been so helpful in seeing the necessity of this. And its a vote winner , ive got to say. A vote winner, ive got to say. Absolutely. I cant understand why they dont get on with it. Rishi stands up and says, this is stopping. We are no longer teaching gender identity ideology in schools. We are stopping every single private clinic that is prescribing puberty blockers on the internet that he will see a surge in the particularly among women , i particularly among women, i would say particularly among women mothers. Yeah, mothers. Yeah, mothers. Because can i weve had because can i say, weve had so many fathers. Yeah, im sure. Yeah, im sure. Yeah, im sure. Im sure with daughters. Rishi has two daughters. Rishi has got two daughters. Im sure parents yeah. Sure shes parents know. Yeah. If they dont do something their own, they could lose their own children. Kate, whats your theory so many theory on why there are so many more now deciding more children now deciding that theyre born in the wrong body, using that blame myself. I blame myself for a lot of it. I was an ardent of stonewall. Ardent supporter of stonewall. We created a monster. Everybody took stonewall. The organised campaign for equal rights for gay and lesbian people and then moved on to the transition and up until 2015, stonewalls name was trusted so we could lobby ministers, we could lobby mps, we could talk to anybody. And they knew who we were speaking about equality , we speaking about equality, we nothing more, nothing less. Nothing more, nothing less. Equality under the law. Stonewall lost its collective mind in 2015, and they have been promoting this ideology through government, through the Civil Service thats why a lot of ministers are not making progress, because theyre snack food. Food. Another i was i was talking to a gp yesterday who was saying that what shes seeing now is the anorexia and bulimia have almost disappeared in the clinic and theyre being replaced by trans gender conflict crisis. Look at whats fashionable. Yeah, fashionable to be a goth. Its fashionable to be trans or non binary. Non binary. Founder of lgb Alliance Kate Harris thank you so much to talk to you. Kate. Thank you. Thank you so i still to come this morning, more on the rebellion inside ministers inside the Prime Ministers party scrapping of party over the scrapping of the hs2 thank you for hs2 northern leg. Thank you for joining britains joining us. This is britains newsroom on news, the newsroom on gb news, the peoples newsroom on gb news, the peo hello. Its blustery, hello. Its a blustery, showery day. Welcome to your latest news weather update. Latest gb news weather update. Im burkill. If we start im alex burkill. If we start off looking at the Bigger Picture there an area of picture and there is an area of low pressure to north low pressure just to the north of tightly packed of the uk and tightly packed isobars it is isobars indicate that it is going to be quite windy. Breezy for many of us. Meanwhile, High Pressure is building from the south is to going south and that is to going quieten our weather down across southern week through southern parts this week through the though, southern parts this week through the its though, southern parts this week through the its breezy though, southern parts this week through the its breezy and though, southern parts this week through the its breezy and therejh, southern parts this week through the its breezy and there are yes, its breezy and there are plenty of showers around. Some sunny spells in between the showers, particularly showers, but particularly towards west towards the north and west of the could be the uk. Those showers could be quite there quite heavy at times and there may be rumbles of thunder may be some rumbles of thunder mixed in as well. Temperatures are going to be down a little bit to recently. Its bit compared to recently. Its going fresh at going to feel quite fresh at times, especially those times, especially in those brisk, winds. Through brisk, blustery winds. Through the of the day, well the end of the day, well continue see some showers, continue to see some showers, particularly across northern and western clear western parts. Some clear skies developing in developing down the east and in the. Meanwhile, as developing down the east and in the go. Meanwhile, as developing down the east and in thego through. Meanwhile, as developing down the east and in the go through the meanwhile, as developing down the east and in thego through the night,nhile, as developing down the east and in the go through the night, we. E, as developing down the east and in the go through the night, we are s we go through the night, we are going a swathe of going to see a swathe of wet weather its from weather pushing its way in from the affecting many parts the west, affecting many parts of scotland. Some heavy rain likely here. Temperatures arent going for going to drop a huge amount for many and cities, though. Many towns and cities, though. Some rural spots towards the east get the clearer east where we get the clearer skies could turn a little chilly. Wednesday , then a bit chilly. So wednesday, then a bit of a north south split, a fairly wet picture across many of wet picture across many parts of scotland. Cloudy. The rain scotland. Quite cloudy. The rain will heavy at and will be heavy at times and building high building up with some high totals, particularly for western parts scotland. Meanwhile parts of scotland. Meanwhile a drier south, drier picture further south, albeit there will be a few showers to watch out for, particularly across parts of wales and southwest england. Temperatures be temperatures for many will be similar today up next, more similar to today up next, more on the split inside the conservative party over whether they will or they wont scrap hs2. Northern interest secret. Theyre scrapping it. But we just dont know when the Prime Minister is going to tell us. Get with and get on with it, rishi. And we you what . You know what . Desperate for cup of were desperate for a cup of tea or coffee here, right . Were desperate. Queues long. When i queued up for my cup of yesterday, i said to the of tea yesterday, i said to the very here in very nice girl here in manchester said, manchester conference and said, can a english can i have a cup of english breakfast . Sorry, love, breakfast . He said, sorry, love, we normal tea. We only sell normal tea. I smiled sweetly and said that thatll fine. Thatll be fine. This city. Are in i love this city. We are in the greatest in the world. The greatest city in the world. Were this were in manchester this morning. Got soaked in were in manchester this morrain, got soaked in were in manchester this morrain, id got soaked in were in manchester this morrain, id forgot got soaked in were in manchester this morrain, id forgot myt soaked in the rain, id forgot my undennear. Hendrella. What an idiot. Right. Undennear. Hendrella. What an idicthisght. Undennear. Hendrella. What an idicthisghbritains newsroom this is britains newsroom im gb news peoples im gb news the peoples channel. Okay. Okay. Okay. Good morning. Good morning. Its 10 00 good morning. Its10 00 on good morning. Its 10 00 on tuesday, the 3rd of october. This is britains newsroom on gb news with andrew pearson. Bev turner. We are, as might have we are, as you might have noticed, at the manchester noticed, live at the manchester tory rails. Rishi so off the rails. Rishi sunak. Well hes going to, but you dont know when hes you just dont know when hes going to scrap between going to scrap hs2 between birmingham the birmingham and manchester. The justice secretary, alex chalk has behind has thrown his support behind the not sure that decision im not sure that decision has that decision has been made. That decision hasnt made. Prime hasnt been made. This Prime Minister right thing minister does the right thing on the evidence, minister does the right thing on the calmly, evidence, minister does the right thing on the calmly, unemotionally. Coolly, calmly, unemotionally. Women ban health trans women ban Health Secretary Steve Barclay describes ban trans describes his plan to ban trans women female hospital wards women from female hospital wards as on as common sense and war on woke the Kemi Badenoch. She delivered a tubthumping rousing on gender rousing speech on race, gender and she and brexit yesterday and she said the best country said britain is the best country in be black. Said britain is the best country in i be black. Said britain is the best country in i tell be black. Said britain is the best country in i tell my be black. Said britain is the best country in i tell my childrenvlack. Said britain is the best country in i tell my children that. Said britain is the best country in i tell my children that this i tell my children that this is the best country in the world to be black because it is a country people, country that sees people, not labels. It time for a labels. And is it time for a cheaper food shop for the first time in two years, theres been a monthly drop in food prices. Will this trend continue . Were going to get the thoughts of minister state for of the minister of state for food morning. Food this morning. Get in touch with us this morning on email, gb views at gbnews. Com. As always. But first gbnews. Com. As always. But first of all, here is your news with. Aaron hey, good morning to you. Its a minute past ten. Im Aaron Armstrong in the gb newsroom. Businesses are demanding clarity as demanding immediate clarity as confusion continues over the future of the northern leg of hs2. Theres growing speculation hs2. Theres growing speculation the government planning to the government is planning to scrap birmingham to scrap the birmingham to manchester because of manchester leg because of soaring but the prime soaring costs. But the Prime Minister insists the decision is yet to be taken. Sunak is yet to be taken. Rishi sunak is expected to make an announcement, though about the project conservative project at the conservative Party Conference tomorrow. Party conference tomorrow. Meanwhile, the government is set to ban trans women from female hospital wards. The Health Secretary, Steve Barclay, is expected to say the plan will help restore common sense to the nhs. In his speech at the tory conference, hell announce proposals to push back on wokery in the health service. He told the telegraph the move will protect rights. Under protect womens rights. Under the changes, trans patients would be treated in separate accommodation. Junior doctors accommodation. Junior doctors are expected to hold a rally outside the Conference Centre in manchester later. Theyve manchester later. Theyve started a three day strike in england alongside consultants in a row over pay radiographers have also walked out for 24 hours, meaning tens of thousands of patients will be unable to have scans. The bma , the british have scans. The bma, the British Medical Association, wants the government to return to the negotiating table, warning if a credible deal isnt offered, new strike dates will be set for november and december. The government says this years pay rise was a final and fair settlement. It more murderers settlement. It more murderers who carry out sexually motivated attacks will automatically face attacks will automatically face a whole life sentence under new powers. The legal expectation on powers. The legal expectation on judges will apply retrospectively to those whove already committed the crime, but are yet to be sentenced. The are yet to be sentenced. The justice secretary, alex chalk , justice secretary, alex chalk, says for the most dangerous and depraved killers, life really should mean life, where that is the option that judges should be thinking about as an initial proposition. Proposition. It now becomes the default. So its what should happen. Unless, of course , the judge unless, of course, the judge decides there are exceptional circumstances. And we think that puts law in the right place, puts the law in the right place, that instincts of the that meets the instincts of the british people and, as i say, does you does justice and provides, you know, crumb of comfort for know, a crumb of comfort for families after the most appalling crimes that they feel justice is truly being served. Justice is truly being served. The justice secretary is also expected to announce plans to introduce jades law to parliament, named afterjade ward, who was murdered by Russell Marshall in 2021. The bill will strip parental rights from those who kill their partner , despite serving at partner, despite serving at least 25 years in prison, he still retains parental rights in the united states. Donald trump the united states. Donald trump has attacked a judge and prosecutor on the first day of his 250 million trial in new york. The former us president is accused of fraud , falsification accused of fraud, falsification of Business Records , issuing of Business Records, issuing false Financial Statements and conspiracy. Attorney general Letitia James accused him of generating more than 100 million by lying about his property empire and materials. Property empire and materials. He overvaluing his assets. But he overvaluing his assets. But trump hit back, saying the trial is a sham. Ms james is corrupt and the judge should be disbarred , along with making disbarred, along with making fresh claims of election interference. Interference. It has been very successful for them because they took me off the campaign trail because theyve been sitting in a courthouse all day long instead of being in iowa, New Hampshire , south carolina, or a lot of other places, i could be at this is a horrible situation for our country. Its never happened before. Its election before. Its election interference. Theyre interference. Theyre interfering with the president ial election of 2024 and the people of our country see it. The price of a monthly food shop has fallen for the first time in more than two years. The prices were down by 0. 1 on average in september, compared to the previous month. Thats according to the British Retail Consortium. It brought retail consortium. It brought the annual rate of food inflation down to 9. 9. Thats the lowest point since last august. The group, which lobbies on behalf of the industry, says its because of fierce competition between supermarkets and Emergency Services have spent the night tackling a huge fire after lightning struck a recycling plant in oxfordshire. Recycling plant in oxfordshire. A fireball lit up the sky when a gas tank exploded at a Food Processing plant in cassington. Processing plant in cassington. If firefighters are still monitoring the site, no injuries , though, have been reported. , though, have been reported. This is gb news across the uk on your Digital Radio and on your Smart Speaker to just say play gb news. Now its back to andrew and. Bev and. Bev well, were expecting rishi sunak to finally tell us hes scrapping the hs2 rail line from birmingham to manchester, but we dont know if its going to come in his keynote speech tomorrow or but certainly or when. But hes certainly going delegates that going to tell delegates that its review. Right. Its under review. Thats right. Its its over. And its finished. Its over. And it will free more than £10 will free up more than £10 billion spend on other billion to spend on other transport infrastructure projects. Projects. Were joined now by David Campbell bannerman, founder of the conservative Democratic Organisation. Good morning, organisation. Good morning, david. First of all, will you explain to viewers and explain to our viewers and listeners the listeners what is the conservative Democratic Organisation course . Organisation nation . Of course . Well , cdo, exist for well, cdo, we exist for Greater Party democracy and we have a seven step agenda like an elected chair , seven elected chair, seven constituencies choosing their own candidates. This used to happen , but it doesnt happen happen, but it doesnt happen now. Its all very central ized. Democracy matters because as if you get the members put back in charge, then actually they reflect the publics views better for and the whole party attracts more members, more support overall. Thats why it m atters. B ut matters. But david, you are in danger of becoming a party within a party. Lord cruddas, who founded this organisation with you about a year ago. He said in his speech here on sunday night, dont give any more money to the tory party. Give the money to tory party. Give the money to your organisation. You dont your organisation. You dont give any money to the tory party. Grows, grinds to party. It grows, grinds to a halt. Or 16 halt. And there were 15 or 16 tory that dinner, wildly tory mps at that dinner, wildly clapping cheering. Theyre clapping and cheering. Theyre going to be for the high jump mate. M ate. Mate. Well, the thrust of that was, you know, lets channel those funds directly to certain mps who support democratic values. Who support democratic values. Its not like, you know , abandon its not like, you know, abandon the party because were very pro the party because were very pro the party because were very pro the party and we want to win the next election. You were more pro the party when it was led by Boris Johnson. Yes, but were not about were actually about Party Democracy and party reform. Were not actually about any individuals. So its not just individuals. So its notjust about boris , you know, hes not about boris, you know, hes not even an mp at the moment, but we are you know, it really matters. Democracy see, because, you know, membership has collapsed. Know, membership has collapsed. But it was half a million when we had the new constitution in 1998 and the william hague. And 1998 and the william hague. And now were looking at what, 140,000 . We dont even know. We dont even know. They wont tell us whats changed. That means that your organisation is now necessary when it wasnt before. When it wasnt before. Its always been necessary andits its always been necessary and its not like suddenly ansen. And its not like suddenly arisen. Its just i think we are arisen. Its just i think we are losing members in droves and were about to put up the membership fee in january by Something Like 60, and i think that will be the trigger to drive many people away. I mean , drive many people away. I mean, tries to keep people on board. We have nigel farage came to our dinner on sunday night and we were delighted to welcome him and delighted. He got a rather big, loud round of applause. But but, know, we he did. But but, you know, we want to bring, you know, unite the centre, right . Really. And cdo the centre, right . Really. And cd0 and we do encourage people to come back from reform and other parties and that can be very powerful. You know, youre very powerful. You know, youre talking about likes of 50 plus when you get it right. We saw it under theresa may briefly. We saw it under boris. Youre saw it under boris. Youre talking about 50 of the country. Actually you know, back the centre right gender. I sensed it at the dinner. I sensed it here yesterday when nigel farage walked in here. It was like the return of the of the king. It was extraordinary. It was the parting of the sea, crowds parting of the red sea, crowds gathering around, people crowding here to hear what he had say here on stand. Had to say here on the stand. With on news yesterday, with me on gb news yesterday, all the photograph with all wanting the photograph with him. He is king the him. He is the king across the water, isnt he . Him. He is the king across the watwell,|t he . Him. He is the king across the watwell,|t h got was his well, ive got i was his deputy leader at ukip. Ive i came back to conservative party. I think he may back to us i think he may come back to us hopefully. Do you think so . I you know , i, i think its you know, i, i think its entirely possible if you get the formula right. I mean, cdo is exists, as i say, to represent the centre right where nigel is quite happy with that sort of realm and reform in our electoral system and reform is on 6, 8. We know its not going to win. Mps its a very hard formula unless you have proportional representation, which has a lot of problems with it. So so internal reform, which is what cdos is about, i think is what cdos is about, i think is a far better alternative than setting up yet another party or, you know, 2, 8. How does the Prime Minister view your organisation . View your organisation . Well, micks , to be honest, well, micks, to be honest, did he send a message of goodwill when you launched it . Recall it. I dont recall it. I dont recall it. Oh, no, no. Look were not anti rishi. Its important to say that we are about Party Democracy. Were working well with hands. The party with greg hands. The party chairman. Yeah, but. Chairman. Chairman. Yeah, but. But you know, we are calling for quite radical reforms. But if we put the members back in charge , put the members back in charge, then i think the whole party will be stronger. Youll get you could get like in canada, hundreds of thousands of members came back to the conservative party. Theres a good model there and we need to we need more activists. I mean , more activists. I mean, elections, not many people are turning up to help. Yeah itll be a far more effective fighting i well, it doesnt feel if youve if were going into the general election where the conservative party presiding over this over the highest tax burden this country since second country has had since the second world would people world war, why would people clamour the conservative clamour to join the conservative party . Not a conservative party . Its not a conservative thing tax people so thing to do to tax people so heavily. You see, we heavily. Well, well, you see, we say, you know, what do you get for membership if you cant for your membership if you cant use your mp because Central Office . Do it for you you get do it for you and you get told who you having. If you cant elect the party leader. I mean, rishi sunak the problem with an elected was its not about rishi, but about the way he elected. It was actually he was elected. It was actually , him even , well, who voted for him even the mps didnt vote for it. Yeah, and it doesnt help him. Theres no democratic mandate. And also policy. Who listens to members on policy now there are you cpf or whatever it is, but we want a policy forum , the we want a policy forum, the spnng we want a policy forum, the spring conference. You know, its a very Technical Conference in spring. We want to turn it into policy conference. So ministers actually listen to policy ideas. Then they come back in october and they roll out their , you know, accepted out their, you know, accepted policy. But all of this will drive membership because itd be worth being a member , i guess. Worth being a member, i guess. I guess what youre saying as well is theres a sort of dissatisfaction and a disillusioned politics disillusioned with politics outside of westminster to some degree, outside of these sorts of keir starmer of events. Keir starmer obviously proposing 16 year olds get vote. Maybe you need to get the vote. Maybe you need to get the vote. Maybe you need to get people in younger, get the vote 16 year olds. How would vote to 16 year olds. How would you feel about that . Well, funnily enough, i im actually quite pro it. I saw in scotland i helped in the scottish referendum. Im half scots you i think its an and we were against independence. Of course i was yeah we better check very pro union. Good. But check very pro union. Good. But i did see what was funny because there was that controversy then about 16 year olds voting. Yeah. And i met a lot of schoolchildren at various offices who were very engaged. Offices who were very engaged. And actually i think getting young people engaged is not a bad idea. Young people engaged is not a badidea. So young people engaged is not a bad idea. So maybe im slightly out of there. I think im with you on that, david. No, i think you take it seriously. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Can we ask you about a big policy that is apparently tearing the tory party apart . If you to the hs2 , you listen to the bbc, hs2, look, obviously to look, hes obviously going to cancel. Its a its a very cancel it. Its a its a very bad optic that this debate is happening while were in manchester in a former Railway Station. Yeah. David the midland railway. Station. Yeah. Youid the midland railway. Station. Yeah. You could midland railway. Station. Yeah. You could midlan make way. Station. Yeah. You could midlan make out you could hardly make out railway 1969, but Railway Station till 1969, but actually, beth and i, we talked about it. We actually think get rid because its not very rid of it because its not very popular its probably popular anyway. Its probably a vote winner. And the money youd popular anyway. Its probably a vote from zr. And the money youd popular anyway. Its probably a vote from cancelling money youd popular anyway. Its probably a vote from cancelling it, ney youd popular anyway. Its probably a vote from cancelling it, you youd save from cancelling it, you spend projects linking spend on rail projects linking up and west across the pennines. Well, im i worked on hs1, which is the channel Tunnel Railway and that was that was supposed to go up. Scotland was supposed to be connection never happened. It was very well engineered to kings cross. It followed existing lines, existing to kings cross. It followed existin hs2. Lines, existing to kings cross. It followed existin hs2. Think es, existing to kings cross. It followed existinhs2. Think is existing to kings cross. It followed existin hs2. Think is veryting to kings cross. It followed existinhs2. Think is very bad. Roads, hs2. I think is very bad. The engineer, because it goes hell for leather, 400km h and its a lot of tunnelling, which is very expensive of course, and so i, i query whether theres any Business Case. Now for london, birmingham, if youre not going to go further to manchester, the Business Case falls apart. If you dont come to manchester. But im afraid, you know, i think things have moved on. There are better ways of getting here and ive done my own paper net as on my personal website, but its about using the east coast main line , which the east coast main line, which is very flat, very fast. No is very flat, very fast. No tunnelling required at. And mallard got the worlds speed record in the 1930 on that railway line for a reason because its very straight now. You could go to doncaster and then link up with the one that you really want to build , which you really want to build, which is people have is hs3 because people have really struggled between i think, yeah, i said, well, leeds to manchester 40 miles that is worth building. Liverpool hull could be a new economic area like the south. Does this tell us that hes listened, that rishi sunak has actually listened to people like you who know this system, who understand , and the pros and understand, and the pros and cons. Hes looked at the costs and benefits and made a and the benefits and made a sensible. Sensible decision. I welcome the fact i mean, i welcome the fact that the Prime Minister is turning to returning to pragmatic conservatism like net zero. Very good. And its questioning costs , you know, are questioning costs, you know, are the benefits worth these massive costs , especially the know its costs, especially the know its all out of control role. And i think it has been a gravy train. I mean, i know its a bit of a, you know, cliche, but theres a lot of people getting huge amounts of money out of this without really see the case for it being properly explained. There are better ways of investing in rail. Im doing a project on railway reopenings as an anti beeching right around the country , which i hope to the country, which i hope to launch later this year. I thought they were going to do that. Didnt wasnt that one of the announcements the last announcements of the last government . To government . They were going to reopen the stations that reopen all the stations that were in were closed down by beeching in the all of them, of not all of them, but some of them okehampton been them okehampton has been reopened. Thats fantastic. And various could be various stations could be reopened. This reopened. But, you know, this money tens of billions, money for hs2, tens of billions, you know, could actually transform rail right across the network. And i think weve come to a point now weve got to really challenge, you know, what are we trying to do . We cant are we trying to do . We cant afford just throw money at afford to just throw money at this, not with cost of living. This, not with cost of living. So know, i think its so i you know, i think its right for the Prime Minister to actually. Actually reveal. The home and briefly, the home secretary this secretary will speak this afternoon. Braverman she afternoon. Suella braverman she she some some cabinet she is some some cabinet ministers refusing to ministers are refusing to endorse what the language she uses. Welcome language uses. I welcome her language because she tells it as it is. It aint working. The it aint working. The immigration weve got immigration system. Weve got to stop these boats crossing the channel. Theyre illegal migrants. Migrants. Would fully behind yeah, i would fully behind Suella Braverman. I thought it was a brave speech. There was a but it was right. You was a brave speech. There was a but it was right. You know, it but it was right. You know, it was a measured speech. It wasnt extreme. Weve got to address these issues because if we dont address them, there are extreme groups that will arise. Youre seeing it like sweden has had to sendin seeing it like sweden has had to send in its army, you know, because of the problems created by mass immigration. We dont want to go down that road. I was involved in Northern Ireland peace process. I know what its like the army the like using the army in the streets. Salute her for it. Streets. So i salute her for it. And shes created a debate. And shes created a debate. Lets have rational debate. Lets have a rational debate. Lets have a rational debate. Lets get hysterical. Lets not get hysterical. Yeah, very reasonable. David yeah, very reasonable. David campbell always Campbell Bannerman always reasonable. Founder of reasonable. Yeah founder of the conservative Democratic Organisation what boris, organisation. What about boris, by is any chance we by the way . Is any chance we love him . Boris, hes here. Whereas boris, hes not here. Whereas boris, hes not here. Imagine was here, hed imagine if he was here, hed be. Itd be a beauty competition between him and nigel farage, wouldnt would win . Wouldnt it . Who would win . What did they get together . What did they get together . Win two. Who would win those two. Yeah, know. Well which one yeah, i know. Well which one would leader . Would be the leader . Yeah, right. Would be the leader . Still, right. Im going to still to come, im going to be little walk around be having a little walk around the going to the conference. Im going to speak members speak to some Party Members here on this is britains on the floor. This is britains newsroom on gb news. Hello showery day. Its a blustery, showery day. Welcome to latest news welcome to your latest gb news weather burkill weather update. Im alex burkill. Start off looking at the. If we start off looking at the bigger there an Bigger Picture and there is an area pressure just to the area of low pressure just to the north of the tightly north of the uk and tightly packed indicate it packed isobars indicate that it is quite windy. Is going to be quite windy. Breezy for many us. Breezy for many of us. Meanwhile, pressure is meanwhile, High Pressure is building from the south and that is going quieten our weather building from the south and that is gacross|uieten our weather building from the south and that is gacross southern |r weather building from the south and that is gacross southern|r weathis building from the south and that is ithrough outhern |r weathis building from the south and that is ithrough the|ern|r weathis building from the south and that is ithrough the restr weathis building from the south and that is ithrough the rest ofeathis week through the rest of tuesday, though, its tuesday, though, yes, its breezy and there plenty of breezy and there are plenty of showers some sunny showers around. Some sunny spells the showers, spells in between the showers, but particularly towards the north of the those north and west of the uk. Those showers quite heavy at showers could be quite heavy at times may be some times and there may be some rumbles of thunder in as rumbles of thunder mixed in as well. Temperatures are going to be a little compared to be down a little bit compared to recently. Going to feel recently. Its going to feel quite at times, especially recently. Its going to feel quthose at times, especially recently. Its going to feel quthose brisk, times, especially recently. Its going to feel quthose brisk, blustery pecially recently. Its going to feel quthose brisk, blustery windsy recently. Its going to feel quthose brisk, blustery winds. In those brisk, blustery winds. Through the end of the day, well continue to see some showers, particularly across northern and western some showers, particularly across north skies1d western some showers, particularly across north skies developing some showers, particularly across north skies developing fthe e showers, particularly across nortiand 3s developing fthe e showers, particularly across nortiand 3s itheeloping fthe e showers, particularly across nortiand 3s itheelopingas fthe e showers, particularly across nortiand 3s itheelopingas ft. E e east and in the south as well. Meanwhile, as we go through the night, a night, we are going to see a swathe weather pushing swathe of wet weather pushing its way in from the west, affecting parts of affecting many parts of scotland. Some heavy rain likely here. Temperatures arent going to amount for many to drop a huge amount for many towns though. Towns and cities, though. Some rural towards the east rural spots towards the east where we get the clearer skies could chilly. Could turn a little chilly. So wednesday then of a north wednesday, then a bit of a north south split, a fairly wet picture across many parts of scotland, quite cloudy. The rain will at times will be heavy at times and building high building up with some high totals, particularly western totals, particularly for western parts scotland. Meanwhile parts of scotland. Meanwhile a drier picture further south, albeit there will be a few showers to watch out for, particularly parts particularly across parts of wales and southwest england. Temperatures be temperatures for many will be similar to today mornings from 930 on. Gb news. Gb news. Gb news. Welcome back to the tory Party Conference here in manchester. Ive got out of our little studios. Have a walk around this huge train station as it was huge old train station as it was the Convention Centre here. Now this is the conservative party shop. Really are a big shop. So if you really are a big fan the conservative fan of the conservative party, then sorts of then you can buy all sorts of merchandise. They have an apron here with Margaret Thatcher on it. Not for it. This food is not for burning. I must say im quite a fan of an apron, but their best selling item are the keir starmer flip flops. Obviously you understand the 1699 for a pair of flip flops. I think thats quite expensive actually. So theres all sorts of people here this morning. Its a really here this morning. Its a really interesting opportunity to get together and see who does support the conservative party. Todayi support the conservative party. Today i found these four very young gentlemen who just arrived. Hello. Your name is louis. Louis, you are a Young Conservative Party member. Why . Well, you know, i just why . Well, you know, i just think its been a time think its been a tough time recently just my family recently and its just my family grew conservatives. I grew up as conservatives. And i just ive got to stick with my family , with family family, stick with the family roots, know, amazing. Family, stick with the family roots, ross, iw, amazing. Family, stick with the family roots, ross, how mazing. Family, stick with the family roots, ross, how about]. Family, stick with the family roots, ross, how about you . And ross, how about you . Wheres interest wheres your interest in politics from . Politics come from . So my interest comes from my family well. Im obviously my family as well. Im obviously my family as well. Im obviously my family have been conservative all of all my life. So its kind of been with it. Been brought up with it. They make come here . Do they make you come here . Do they make you come here . Absolutely not. Its my no, absolutely not. Its my own choice. Agree with own choice. But i agree with lots of the principles of the party. So youre the of party. So so youre the kind of boy. Sit at home having so you sit at home having your with your family so you sit at home having you|chat with your family so you sit at home having you|chat about1 your family so you sit at home having you|chat about politics. Mily so you sit at home having you|chat about politics. Iiily so you sit at home having you|chat about politics. I feel like. Yeah. Yeah. So especially like my granny and stuff, you can get into like really interesting debates with like old like people from like the old generation kind generation stuff. You can kind of views, of like contrast views, especially sister and especially with my sister and stuff more being like going to off having different stuff more being like going to off to having different stuff more being like going to off to different; different stuff more being like going to off to different; differe||ts views to different people. Its quite feel like quite interesting. I feel like doing college kind doing politics at college kind of that allows to of fuels that and allows you to kind contrasting kind of have like contrasting views with other people and get into debates. Into nice little debates. So. So youre are you all studying politics as well . Are you at sixth form are you all at sixth form college together high school are you all at sixth form co whatever . Her high school are you all at sixth form co whatever . And high school are you all at sixth form co whatever . And whath school are you all at sixth form co whatever . And what do hool are you all at sixth form co whatever . And what do your or whatever . And what do your friends say that friends say when you say that youre of the youre a member of the conservative its conservative party . Because its traditionally for the older voter. The stereotype, voter. Thats the stereotype, isnt it . Well, i believe another part of being a conservative party member is believing in economic liberalism, which many of our generation dont seem to understand. Understand. And well, tell our and yeah, well, tell our viewers, what do you mean by economic liberalism . Sorry. I feel im now giving a feel like im now giving you a little test your a level little test on your a level syllabus a bit mean, syllabus that was a bit mean, but go on, explain you but go on, explain what you mean. Able the free market, being able the free market, low , low corporate taxes low taxes, low corporate taxes and allowing businesses to thrive. Yeah, well, thats amazing, guys. And what would you say is the difference, ross, between the difference, ross, between the conservative party today and labour . Well, i just think at the moment theres a big stigma about the conservative party that a lot of people who maybe arent educated in the field arent as educated in the field think but really think about it, but really i think about it, but really i think its quite easy for maybe the labour party to say theyll do things when theyre not in power, i its a lot power, and i think its a lot more difficult when they really empower you to things empower you to get things through. Empower you to get things thr well, done, lads. Thank well, well done, lads. Thank you. Oh, thank you all so much you. Oh, thank you all so much for to us on gb news. For talking to us on gb news. You see, its funny, isnt it . The conservative party is in pretty it seems, in pretty safe hands, it seems, in the next generation. Andrew, the next generation. An. Andrew, back now. Back to you for now. You, bev. Now, thank you, bev. Now, competition between supermarkets has led to the first monthly drop in food prices for more than two years. The British Retail Consortium said prices in september down not much, but 0. 1 previous month. 0. 1 from the previous month. With perfect timing, were joined by the minister for food, with perfect timing, were joined bjande minister for food, with perfect timing, were joined bjand fisheries, for food, with perfect timing, were joined bjand fisheries, markod, farming and fisheries, mark spencen farming and fisheries, mark spencer. Did you write this script in advance . I mean, foods been going up relentlessly, relentlessly , and relentlessly, relentlessly, and now weve had the first fall for two years. Think to be fair, its, you i think to be fair, its, you know, the Prime Minister is, is mounting this war on inflation. Its important we its really important that we get of inflation because get a grip of inflation because it does low paid it really does damage low paid and whove and pensioners and people whove whove got assets. So whove not got assets. So inflation is our primary battle. I think we continue to invest in our uk Food Producers and our farmers to try and make sure were as efficient as possible. But are driven by the but we are we are driven by the winds of a pandemic and winds of a Global Pandemic and a war in europe, which has had an enormous effect on peoples standard of living. Is the war how big a factor is the war in with the impact on in ukraine with the impact on the price . The grain price . Mean, its so ukraine i mean, its huge. So ukraine was the breadbasket of europe. Was the breadbasket of europe. It nearly 70 of it produces nearly 70 of Sunflower Oil , which you wont Sunflower Oil, which you wont know that you consume. But every walkers crisp, of course, is cooked in Sunflower Oil. So its had a huge impact on on grain movements around the world. And the price of protein , if you the price of protein, if you like. And that does drive all the way through the food sector. So it knocks on to poultry pnces so it knocks on to poultry prices , to pig prices, to milk prices, to pig prices, to milk pnces prices, to pig prices, to milk prices , and it makes it very prices, and it makes it very challenging for farmers up and down the country. Down the country. What can the government do to help families . Is watching this programme are really struggling with the shopping they with the shopping bill. They look supermarket look at the supermarket and they have something have to take something out because they cant because they realise they cant afford yeah well, so, afford to pay it. Yeah well, so, so number one, of course the chancellors huge amount chancellors put a huge amount of cash into supporting families with to with their energy bills and to make they afford make sure that they can afford to pay their energy, actually paying to pay their energy, actually paying half the energy paying almost half the energy bill of people up and down the country. But government, were but as a government, were also supporting our farmers also supporting our uk farmers to they be to make sure that they can be profitable, can profitable, but also can continue produce top quality continue to produce top quality food at reasonable price for food at a reasonable price for our something which our consumers, something which theyve generations and theyve done for generations and something should something which we should be very grateful what about very grateful for. What about the . So of course the supermarkets . So of course weve got to have fairness in the supply chain. Is there fairness . Is there fairness . So i think so. Lets not lets not bash supermarkets too hard because be them, hard because to be fair to them, why not the way through the why not all the way through the pandemic, we had food on the shelves. Know, theyve shelves. Sure. You know, theyve done of keeping us done a good job of keeping us well fed. Actually, when you look price of a of a look at the price of a of a basket in uk, its basket of goods in the uk, its much it is france much lower than it is in france and germany. Because of and germany. Thats because of the competitiveness of our supermarket there supermarket sector. But there has that has to be fairness in that supply youve got to supply chain. So youve got to have who get rewarded have farmers who get rewarded for risk theyre taking in for the risk theyre taking in producing those commodities and those crops. And if the retailer is taking all of the profit and the farmer is taking all the risk unfair. Risk that is unfair. Now, speak from interest now, you speak from interest because know about because you know all about farming youre milk farming. If youre a milk farmer, how much milk is the farmer, how much milk is the farmer getting . If they sell farmer getting . And if they sell a pint of milk, so literally, you know, be down at you know, it can be down at £0. 30 a litre at certain times of when compare that you when you compare that to, you know pint in the in know, a pound a pint in the in the shops. So i think weve got to make sure that enough of that profit gets passed down the supply chain to the farmer. Profit gets passed down the supply chain to the farmer. And supply chain to the farmer. And thats why were actually going to to make sure to legislate to make sure that those dairy contracts are fair to everybody whos in the dairy sector. Also, we know that the and also, we know that the various looking various regulators are looking at supermarkets about about at the supermarkets about about the labelling and all that sort of thing. But i was listening to the minister this morning. Of thing. But i was listening to thedid minister this morning. Of thing. But i was listening to thedid 2 minister this morning. Of thing. But i was listening to thedid 2 mirbroadcastmorning. He did 2 or 3 broadcast interviews. He was pressed every time, possibly time, how could you possibly know what the cost of living crisis youre crisis is like when youre married to the daughter of a billionaire . Hes the richest prime ever had. Prime minister weve ever had. Is fair criticism, minister . Dont think no, i actually dont think that a i mean, of all the that is a i mean, of all the Prime Ministers weve seen, you know, does to very know, rishi does seem to be very in normal people and in tune with normal people and with with with certainly with my constituent points. Hes a very thoughtful man. He actually thoughtful man. He actually considers happening in considers whats happening in the and he wants to the world and he wants to improve and i think improve that. And i and i think actually blessed with him actually were blessed with him as minister this moment. But but, but, but but he but he the richest premier weve he is the richest premier weve ever had. Well, so it makes him it means he cant bought. Well, so it makes him it me its he cant bought. Well, so it makes him it me its he ca he bought. Well, so it makes him it me its he ca he cant ught. Well, so it makes him it me its he ca he cantbe1t. It means he cant be influenced. Think it makes influenced. I think it makes him wholly his wholly independent and his thought know, thought process. Yeah, you know, i think i think whether hes rich whether i think i think whether hes rich not, whether i think i think whether hes rich not, i whether i think i think whether hes rich not, i think whether i think i think whether hes rich not, i think hesvhether hes not, i think hes irrelevant. Matters are irrelevant. What matters is are his policies right . Is he taking the right the country in the right direction . Care . I direction . Does he care . And i think all those cases, you think in all of those cases, you can say he absolutely does. The home secretary is going to speak afternoon, suella to speak this afternoon, Suella Braverman reluctant embrace been a bit reluctant to embrace the he uses to describe the language he uses to describe the language he uses to describe the battle against illegal migration across the channel. Is she speaking the language that you understand . You understand . Think what shes saying so i think what shes saying is and we can all sign up to this conventions around , if this the conventions around, if you like, migration were developed in the 50s. I think clearly the world is a very different place. And we just need work with need to work with our International Partners make need to work with our interthatwnal partners make need to work with our interthat we partners make need to work with our interthat we are tners make need to work with our interthat we are inzrs make need to work with our interthat we are in the make need to work with our interthat we are in the right e sure that we are in the right place today. I think thats an interesting conversation be interesting conversation to be had internationally , of had internationally, but of course want and smash had internationally, but of cours terrible1t and smash had internationally, but of cours terrible gangs and smash had internationally, but of cours terrible gangs that i smash had internationally, but of cours terrible gangs that are1ash these terrible gangs that are exploiting very vulnerable people. Bad years to do it well people. Bad years to do it well and of course, and weve been frustrated by the courts and weve been frustrated by the commons and the Labour Party Vote against all this stuff, but were to deliver it. We were going to deliver it. We are rwanda is very to are rwanda is very close to working. Were going make working. Were going to make sure through the backlog sure we get through the backlog and to place where and well get to a place where immigration something we can immigration is something we can control as a tool. So control and use as a tool. So immigration is for good our economy we are using People Economy and we are using people within the economy. The immigrants. But of course, weve got to stop the illegal immigration. All right. Will you be will you hall her on . Ive got unfortunately, ive got to go and do another event. But there for the prime but ill be there for the Prime Minister. All right. Thats spencer. The thats mark spencer. Hes the minister food, thats mark spencer. Hes the minister and food, thats mark spencer. Hes the minister and fisheriesood, thats mark spencer. Hes the minister and fisheries with good farming and fisheries with good news. First time in two news. For the first time in two years, prices fell last years, food prices fell last month. To come, kemi month. Still to come, Kemi Badenoch of badenoch says opponents of brexit relentlessly trying brexit are relentlessly trying to were to talk down our country. Were going to be joined by a passionate remainer the passionate remainer in the labour party, of course. Heres the. Aaron the news with. Aaron it is 1032. Im Aaron Armstrong in the gb newsroom. Businesses are demanding immediate clarity as confusion, confusion continues over the future of the northern leg of hs2. Theres growing speculation hs2. Theres growing speculation the government is planning to scrap the birmingham to manchester leg because of soaring costs. But the prime soaring costs. But the Prime Minister insists the decision is yet to be made. Rishi sunak is expected to make an announcement, though, on the project the conservative project at the conservative Party Conference tomorrow. The Party Conference tomorrow. The government is set to ban trans women from female hospital wards. The Health Secretary, Steve Barclay, is expected to say the plan will help restore common sense to the nhs. In his common sense to the nhs. 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Investments that matter. You know , for the business you know, for the business and trade secretary Kemi Badenoch became the latest minister, well, they say, to set out her leadership aspirations. Last night she warned that the benefits risk benefits of brexit risk being lost if sir keir starmer gets into government claiming lost if sir keir starmer gets into labouriment claiming lost if sir keir starmer gets into labour leader laiming lost if sir keir starmer gets into labour leader does ng lost if sir keir starmer gets into labour leader does not the labour leader does not believe in uks ability to believe in the uks ability to think for itself, well the former labour minister for europe, Denis Macshane , joins us europe, Denis Macshane, joins us and absolutely know hes and we absolutely know hes going fundamentally going to fundamentally disagree with everything that Kemi Badenoch said , which is why badenoch said, which is why weve invited him on, because in gb news we like to have a lively discussion. Dennis good morning. How discussion. Dennis good morning. Hovgood morning. Good morning. Good morning. Is how is manchester . How is how is manchester . How is how is manchester . Its well, its a bit wet, to be honest , but but beverley , be honest, but but beverley, shes, shes, shes in the mother city. Yeah. Now dennis i think Kemi Badenoch. Yeah. Think Kemi Badenoch. Yeah. Dennis i think Kemi Badenoch speech so far has been the highlight from the platform. Im highlight from the platform. Im punchy detail. Well, taking the punchy detail. Well, taking the argument to opponents and she was pretty robust on. Brexit was pretty robust on. Brexit are you going to take pay a clip . Im sorry, andrew. No, youre not. Okay well, i didnt really get what she was trying. Oh how nice. I love the last oh how nice. I love the last minister you had on who said we were blessed . The country was were blessed . The country was blessed to have rishi sunak as Prime Minister. Ive never heard the invocation of god , of being the invocation of god, of being blessed because we have a particular Prime Minister but thats just the way the tory party is going. I didnt know what she was talking about because actually all the party leaders, ed davey, sir keir starmer, richard sunak are on the same page. No rejoin, no. The same page. No rejoin, no. The customs union, no return to freedom of movement. And shes a freedom of movement. And shes a bit like the minister, claire coutinho, who we saw yesterday saying that labour wants to tax meat, which is challenged. And meat, which is challenged. And she just kept blustering and blustering and blustering away. So weve got this fantasy conference now where ministers pp conference now where ministers pop up conference now where ministers pop up and just say things that are completely untrue. What are completely untrue. What about what she said about b rexit . Brexit . She said, they tell you brexit is costing britain 4 of gdp per year. Wrong the uks recovery from covid has outpaced france and germany and that is according to the office for budget responsibility. Dennis facts even you cant disagree with that. With that. Oh, look, its very clear that in in monetary terms, because of the hugely inflationary pound that we are getting more money at the moment. But in volume terms, our exporters are screaming because theyve lost all access. Our Service Professionals cant do any work in europe except under incredibly complicated Boris Johnson papennork and bureaucracy. Our young people, bureaucracy. Our young people, even our our craft beer are independent craft beer firms have had to shut down because they cant access the necessary ingredients. So bits of the british economy. British economy. Dennis this isnt yeah. Dennis the Service Exports have gone up, theyve gone higher. Gone up, theyve gone higher. Were in, were in the top five now. Which Service Exports. Yeah, because of. Andrew ive delighted. I dont have many delighted. I dont have many consultant friends in kpmg and hawaii and the, the other great consultancy firms. Theyre doing very well because they can go abroad. They go abroad actually abroad. They go abroad actually outside of europe. Theyve always done very well. That always done very well. That doesnt add a single extra penny to sort out poverty challenges. To sort out poverty challenges. So harrogate or the north of england, the lost bits of broken britain which need jobs, which needs investment , which needs needs investment, which needs manufacturing. I mean, if rishi sunakis manufacturing. I mean, if rishi sunak is really going to tell manchester bev and andrew dead, youre not going to have your good and every other good train line and every other italy, germany, france , thats italy, germany, france, thats got connections between its big cities. Well, hes welcome to cities. Well, hes welcome to try and get votes in manchester. Dennis you know whats striking when you look at the key players here at the conference, weve got Kemi Badenoch. Weve got Suella Braverman. You know, weve got braverman. You know, weve got rishi sunak as Prime Minister. We have a very dire worse in terms of race, in terms of ethnicity and gender. Actually at the top of this government and labour look incredibly Old Fashioned compared to the conservative mix at that sort of level. Is that occurred to you . Level. Is that occurred to you . No, i welcome that. Ive always welcomed that and i write always welcomed that and i write a lot for french and foreign media, and i always say britain is the leading country in europe for having a government that reflects all of the nation which is why i was so sad when Suella Braverman said the other day that multiculturalism in multicultural britain has been a failure. For heavens sake , say failure. For heavens sake, say that to sajid javid. Say that to eddie. No, James Cleverly say that to Kemi Badenoch. Its an awful insult. The huge efforts many of us have made across parties in the last 20, 30, 40 years. Enoch powell, parties in the last 20, 30, 40 years. Enoch powell , when parties in the last 20, 30, 40 years. Enoch powell, when he parties in the last 20, 30, 40 years. Enoch powell , when he was years. Enoch powell, when he was he was the nigel farage of his day in the 1960s, early 70s. He wanted to repatriate wanted to repatri ate immigration. Wanted to repatriate immigration. So kevs parents suella parents. James parents would have been repatriated if that tory enoch powell idea had taken hold. It was defeated all around. And now we can welcome around. And now we can welcome david lammy lisa nandy rushanara ali. I mean, you only reel off the members of the shadow cabinet who are not the same colour as the three of us. I mean, its a ridiculous colour point. Okay point. Okay all right. Dennis, we need to move on. Dennis mcshane there. Now up next, the tees valley mayor says that sunak needs to give voters an agenda they can believe in before christmas. But is three months too long to turn the tables . This britains the tables . This is britains newsroom Patrick Christys weekdays from three on gb news choose. From three on gb news choose. Its good morning. Its 1044. Youre with youre with britains newsroom on gb news down to fryston bev turner we are in manchester. The glories of manchester for the tory conference. Bev turners first think first tory conference. I think its my home its about my 27th in my home town. Town. Its so nice to be here. I left the hotel this morning to walk round to conference walk round to the Conference Centre umbrella and Centre Without an umbrella and you would know better you think i would know better given grew in given that i grew up in manchester, arrived completely. Giving away too manchester, arrived completely. There giving away too manchester, arrived completely. There wasgiving away too manchester, arrived completely. There was aving away too manchester, arrived completely. There was a bit| away too manchester, arrived completely. There was a bit ofnay too manchester, arrived completely. There was a bit of a y too manchester, arrived completely. There was a bit of a drama much. There was a bit of a drama about the hair. I no, there wasnt. I got out my hairdryer, which brought i no, there wasnt. I got out my tmeiryer, which brought i no, there wasnt. I got out mytmeiryer,sorted brought i no, there wasnt. I got out my tmeiryer, sorted myself ht i no, there wasnt. I got out my tmeiryer, sorted myself out. With me and sorted myself out. Rowleys giggling Charlie Rowleys giggling here because had a drama with here because he had a drama with his too. His hair, too. Yes. Yes. Adviser to michael and former adviser to michael and nigel nelson, who never has a drama with his hair because you dont have enough as well , did you . Yeah, ive got a five minute window to get here without going. Well. Hes been going. Very well. Hes been doing your hair and you forgot to you. To bring it with you. Here early enough to i was here early enough to see Prime Minister doing the see the Prime Minister doing the media do many media round. He didnt do many by he only did three. By the way. He only did three. But grilled but he obviously was grilled about charlie. You did about hs2 to charlie. You did you span for michael gove when he was levelling up secretary. How have they made such a mess of the way this has been presented . If theyre going to get rid of hs2, why did they allow to be rumbling on for get rid of hs2, why did they alloweeksto be rumbling on for get rid of hs2, why did they alloweeks all e rumbling on for get rid of hs2, why did they alloweeks all e eraying on for get rid of hs2, why did they alloweeks all e eraying ctheyr two weeks all the way into the tory conference manchester . Tory conference in manchester . In flippin Railway Station . Well, i imagine that the announcement itself was either going to be, you know, held until wednesday. So trying to be kept under lock key announce here ever lock and key announce here ever were perhaps not. Were they . Well, i perhaps not. I mean it could have been or it could have been much later in an autumn statement. It could have been after the conference. But the been leaked. The reality is its been leaked. Its out there. Its caused huge speculation its out there. Its caused huge speculor on its out there. Its caused huge speculor not. And i think what ahead or not. And i think what really needs to happen is clarity. I think well get that already. It quite possibly. But already. It quite possibly. But i think what im asking you, what would you have been advising . Wouldnt you have said, prime minster, you have to get this done you cant have it done now. You cant have it hanging on for two weeks. I i think so. I think, look, you know, and i think, look, you know, i think you just say were i think if you just say were pausing project because pausing the project because actually the focus is on northern west. Northern rail, east to west. Thats people manchester thats what people in manchester want because its not fair on the taxpayer, you know, waking up headline up day after day to headline after about this after headline about this ballooning cost of a project thats right thats been mismanaged right from do think from the start. But i do think that, you know, what might have happened a decision has happened is that a decision has been made, not all the been made, but not all the parties to bring parties have been to told bring andy sure that andy street to make sure that hes or there hes comfortable or there might be the mayor be in birmingham, the mayor of birmingham. Are birmingham. So i think there are clearly people havent been told and to of and they need to be sort of squared before squared off, as it were, before you a full you then get a full announcement, this being leaked then yesterday, somebody then yesterday, will somebody be furiously rishi sunak furiously rewriting rishi sunak speech to factor speech for tomorrow to factor this in and spin it in a positive way . Well, its i think its not really change from where we were. I mean, as a piece of party management, this has been an absolute disaster. It has. That you dont come to manchester and then say, well, i cant tell you about high speed rail about this high speed rail rail train actually going to train thats actually going to take you backwards and fonnards. Then the mayor of greater then when the mayor of greater manchester, andy burnham, was actually building actually in this building precisely yesterday, actually in this building preciselthe yesterday, actually in this building preciselthe bootsterday, actually in this building preciselthe boot in,rday, actually in this building preciselthe boot in,rdajwould it putting the boot in, so would it sounds on is that sounds like is going on is that the Prime Minister intended to end his speech on wednesday with a big flourish which was either to say hs2 is going ahead or hs2 is not going ahead and were going to build were going to use the money to build an awful lot more rail in the north. Thats a possible city. The trouble is that weve got to a stage now where he cant keep saying, well, no decision has been made because we know it must have been for him to be able to announce it tomorrow. Yeah and of course, other politicians been talking and of course, other polimorning, been talking and of course, other polimorning, chalk,rlking this morning, alex chalk, the justice secretary, was the on justice secretary, was on the on our well. This our channel as well. This morning. Are a morning. Those guys are in a kind impossible position kind of impossible position because being pressed because they are being pressed on. Has because they are being pressed on. Has the decision been made and all talking about and theyre all talking about something which is making the conservative party look shambolic rather than clearly put the messaging out there . Well, there have been a number of policies that have been party been announced during this Party Conference, but youre right, they havent necessarily got the headunes headlines that they probably deserve the deserve because of the speculation over hs2. So speculation over over hs2. So weve wait and see what weve got to wait and see what the final package is. It might be that hs2, the leg be the case that hs2, the leg from birmingham to manchester, is scrapped is just paused, not scrapped entirely and entirely because, you know, and you of the people that you get rid of the people that have project far. Terrible cop out. And also from a business point view, from a business point of view, what businesses need is certainty and what you need if you live house that you live in a house on that route, certainty. Dont route, you need certainty. Dont tell might have to my tell me i might have to sell my house. You might bulldoze my house. You might bulldoze my house in years time. I need house in five years time. I need to youre going to know now whether youre going to know now whether youre going to really over is to do that. Its really over is neither one thing the other. Neither one thing nor the other. Go ahead. Think were now i think that were were now in situation where its yes in a situation where its a yes or yeah, ideally yes or or no. Yeah, ideally that yes or no have actually no should have actually happened. Yeah earlier i was in a but while earlier i was in a restaurant last night and there were a few cabinet ministers there, i wont who there, i wont say who they were, of were, but i talked to some of their advisers said, well, their advisers and said, well, guys, too, brilliantly guys, girls too, brilliantly handled they literally handled hs2. And they literally held heads hands. Held their heads in their hands. They in total despair they were in total despair because know this is. What because they know this is. What could have been quite a good tory conference she was tory conference because she was doing well in up doing quite well in the run up to it, quite positive to it, some quite positive announcements is if you announcements and this is if you turn on the bbc or itv , the only turn on the bbc or itv, the only story in town. Yeah and look, i mean its about indecision and dither. Well, and look, the theme of the conference the conference is making the difficult the difficult decisions, taking the difficult decisions, taking the difficult decisions, taking the difficult decisions long difficult decisions for the long term the country. Term interests of the country. And a very, tough and this is a very, very tough decision. Difficult decision. It will be a difficult decision. It will be a difficult decision. Project thats decision. Its a project thats been on since 2009. Been going on since 2009. Its over its costly. Over budget. Its costly. Its caused disruption to caused huge disruption to people. That people. There hasnt been that certainty. People. There hasnt been that certaisou people. There hasnt been that certaiso its about making sure that. So its about making sure that. So its about making sure that the clarity by the that there is the clarity by the end conference. Certainly end of the conference. Certainly but also making sure that rishi sunak can explain in a way sunak can explain it in a way that says , look, you know, that says, look, you know, actually talk to actually if you do talk to people and i have people in manchester and i have spoken few, just tory spoken to a few, not just tory delegates are delegates here, they are actually concerned actually very, very concerned about between east to about the rail between east to west the north. The west in the north. That is the focus even more so the other thing labour line thing is the labour attack line is that rishi sunak is weak. Yeah. And suddenly hes sort of hes actually falling into that trap by being weak, even though labour wont tell us what they would do. No, no. Exactly. Yes. I mean labour are keeping their powder on that one. Their powder dry on that one. Yeah. Many things. Yeah. As on so many things. Just. Yes, yes. What will they respond yeah. What will they respond do what should they do you think . What should they respond . They just respond . What will they just wait what the sort of wait to see what the sort of court Public Opinion says court of Public Opinion says first . Yes. It be all that kind yes. It will be all that kind of stuff. Need to what real we need to see what the real figures are. We need to see what the real fileeah,e. We need to see what the real fileeah, itll be that. Yeah, itll be that. And theyll say this is chaos. Theyll say that this is chaos. It shows what years it just shows what 13 years of tory so boring. Tory government. Its so boring. A yeah a kind of idea. Yeah just been so frustrated. Ive just been so frustrated. Ive noticed up there. Can ive just noticed up there. Can you see that up there . Theres snipers you see that up there . Theres sni| i yrs notice the you see that up there . Theres sni|iyrs notice the snipers i did notice the snipers trained on it. I didnt actually set them for you. Andrew no. Set them up for you. Andrew no. When nigel nelson came on. Lefty come on this platform. Duck under there. Now yeah. Duck under there. Now yeah. Sorry, but where we are yeah. Sorry, but where we are it for me, for not me. So you understand we havent got a picture of this. Well try and get one for you later. But where the windows here where are all the windows here are Railway Station. Are in the Railway Station. We can top of buildings. Can see the top of buildings. I think snipers. There think theres snipers. There might might be cameras. Might be. They might be cameras. But yeah, i think probably but yeah, i think they probably are snipers. You better behave yourself theyre definitely yeah, theyre definitely trained on, you know. Okay. Okay okay. Saying, know, we okay. Just saying, you know, we swap yes swap seats. Yes what we going to right. What are we going to talk now . We have a very talk about now . We have a very little Andrew Little table here today. Andrew and were the and i, that were sharing the ben lord horton, as he ben horton, lord horton, as he is very is now very popular, very successful mayor says is now very popular, very sucn tories mayor says is now very popular, very suchories have mayor says is now very popular, very suchories have gotmayor says is now very popular, very suchories have got three says is now very popular, very suchories have got three months the tories have got three months to turn this round. Yes. Know , i dont yes. And you know, i dont think a rigid timetable. Think thats a rigid timetable. I think, you know, every day, every day matters. Every you every day matters. Every you know, because you sound like the Prime Minister oh, thank you very much. I think thats a compliment. Totally sure. Whether thats. Why you say three months . Why did you say three months . Because the next because presumably the next election wont be until this time election wont be until this tim why does we dont know that why does we dont know that at moment. At the moment. Yeah, because youve yeah, i think because youve got the new on got to go into the new year on a new footing, dont you . Yes, thats absolutely right. I this is actually i dont i mean, this is actually i dont think very good think its been a very Good Conference i mean, very think its been a very good confpolicies i mean, very think its been a very good confpolicies as i mean, very think its been a very good confpolicies as its mean, very think its been a very good confpolicies as its meanthery few policies as its made the tory party even tired than tory party feel even tired than they before. Very few new they were before. Very few new ideas coming out and a lot of old ideas dusted off with the idea that now rishi sunak was was lay out his his stall by christmas. Well he should have laid out his stall here hes meant to be doing it. Well, maybe. Maybe that comes in a barnstorming speech late and dripping with policy ideas. Well it does. It maybe it does. Maybe reason that the maybe the reason that the other havent been other ministers havent been given is because given any policies is because rishi announce rishi sunak wants to announce them weve got steve them all in one. Weve got steve barton saying today very important barton saying today very imfi rtant barton saying today very imfi think about trans women i think about trans women will not be in womens wards , in will not be in womens wards, in hospitals, very important. A lot of women watching and listening to good, which to think good, which which i agree to think good, which which i agrwa to think good, which which i agnl mean that still believe i mean that i still believe a trans woman is a woman. Trans woman is a woman. Trans woman is a woman. Oh, no, were not having that argument now. My twitter feed is just. Oh, just. But you see, the thing is, i dont think it is that important. I think for the number of people that are that effect, thats your nhs story effect, if thats your nhs story on of the conference, on the day of the conference, thats pathetic. Do think it yeah, but i do think it actually extending women only spaces really important. It spaces is really important. It is important and a ward in a hospital is one of the most important mixed wards, mixed wards with men and women need to go and they are going but they havent got rid of them yet. No, they still exist, but they the process of going. So i think that the idea that you have of women only wards, men wards , thats the way men only wards, thats the way fonnard thats they fonnard and thats what they should that i think that i think that i think that would welcomed the public. Would be welcomed by the public. But isolation, but i think in isolation, of course, going be course, thats not going to be a policy own that sort of policy on its own that sort of grips the country. Its that grips the country. But its that policy. Pragmatic and policy. Its being pragmatic and doing the right thing by the net zero announcement that we had before mobile by before about mobile phones by hs2, all of these things add up to actually what could be a good package of a Prime Minister thats taking tough thats taking these tough decisions, trying to connect with we with ordinary voters because we can hs2 as much as can bang on about hs2 as much as we i dont think the entire i dont think the entire country as galvanised by this i dont think the entire c01some as galvanised by this i dont think the entire c01some of|s galvanised by this i dont think the entire c01some of therlvanised by this i dont think the entire c01some of the journalistsy this as some of the journalists here, but tories we but its the tories saying we are connected. We know problems about phones schools , climate about phones in schools, Climate Change, net zero, very important. Well i mean, certainly the Climate Change one is, is the big one. And one would actually assume that sunak will that tomorrow rishi sunak will set flesh on the bones set out the flesh on the bones that he gave us when he was putting all the delays in place. Yeah, the key question hes got to if you delay all to answer is if you delay all the targets that were there to get to us net zero by 2050. Yeah. How are you going to do yeah. How are you going to do it exactly . You wont tell us that, major, because wont prime major, because he wont be Prime Minister he might not minister in 2050. He might not be minister 2024. Be Prime Minister in 2024. Thats i think he doesnt thats why i think he doesnt care anymore. Whole hes the whole thing is hes worked got worked out. Look, ive got a very short, period period very short, short period period in office. 2050 a long time in office. 2050 is a long time away. Not my problem. Away. Not my problem. Yeah, right. Charlie nigel, thank you so much for now. In the still staring at the next, im still staring at us. I just say what ive us. And can i just say what ive learned about. About Party Conferences that three conferences that you three know . Well, basically involves not well, it basically involves not really drinking too much. Ive been very good on. Ive been very good on. Am i right . Am i right . But whats the idea . But whats the idea . Yeah, thats the idea. Yeah, thats the idea. There you go. I barely touch the. The stuff. Ive to move on. What are ive got to move on. What are you the morning right. You talking the morning right. See in the next few see you in the next few moments. To to moments. Were going to throw to the secretary, steve the Health Secretary, Steve Barclay. Expected barclay. His speech is expected to bring some common sense back into health care. Thats what he says. News britains says. This is gb news britains news says. This is gb news britains neihello. Says. This is gb news britains n61 hello. Blustery, hello. Its a blustery, showery day. Welcome to your showery day. Welcome to your latest news weather update. Latest gb news weather update. Im burkill. If we start im alex burkill. If we start off looking at the Bigger Picture and there an area of picture and there is an area of low pressure just to the north of and tightly packed of the uk and tightly packed isobars that it is isobars indicate that it is going quite windy. Breezy going to be quite windy. Breezy for meanwhile, high for many of us. Meanwhile, High Pressure is building the pressure is building from the south is to going south and that is to going quieten our weather down across southern this through quieten our weather down across sourestl this through quieten our weather down across sou rest of this through quieten our weather down across sou rest of tuesday, through quieten our weather down across sou rest of tuesday, though,ough the rest of tuesday, though, yes, its breezy and there are plenty showers around. Some plenty of showers around. Some sunny between the sunny spells in between the showers, particularly showers, but particularly towards west of towards the north and west of the showers could be the uk. Those showers could be quite there quite heavy at times and there may rumbles of thunder may be some rumbles of thunder mixed as well. Temperatures mixed in as well. Temperatures are going down a little are going to be down a little bit recently. Bit compared to recently. Its going fresh at going to feel quite fresh at times, especially in those brisk, blustery winds through the end of the day, well continue to see some showers, particularly and particularly across northern and western clear skies western parts. Some clear skies developing and in developing down the east and in the as well. Meanwhile, as the south as well. Meanwhile, as we the we are we go through the night, we are going to see a swathe of wet weather its way in from weather pushing its way in from the parts the west, affecting many parts of rain of scotland. Some heavy rain likely temperatures likely here. Temperatures arent going a huge amount for going to drop a huge amount for many cities , though. Many towns and cities, though. Some rural spots towards the east get the clear east where we get the clear skies little skies could turn a little chilly. Wednesday then a bit chilly. So wednesday then a bit of north south split, a fairly of a north south split, a fairly wet parts of wet picture across many parts of scotland. Quite cloudy. The rain will be heavy at times and building up with some high totals, particularly for western parts of scotland. Meanwhile, a drier picture further south, albeit will be a few albeit there will be a few showers to watch out for, particularly parts of particularly across parts of wales southwest england. Wales and southwest england. Temperatures for many will be similar. Its 11 am. On tuesday, the 3rd of october. This is britains newsroom on gb news with Andrew Pierce and bev turner live at the manchester tory turner live at the manchester tonso the rishi sunak so off the rails, rishi sunak is to announce whether is expected to announce whether or he will scrap hs2 between or not he will scrap hs2 between Birmingham Justice secretary, tomorrow. The justice secretary, alex chalk has thrown his support the prime support behind the Prime Minister right decision. Sure that decision so im not sure that decision has been made. That decision hasnt been made. Prime hasnt been made. This Prime Minister right on minister does the right thing on the basis of the evidence, coolly, unemotionally coolly, calmly, unemotionally and a trans women ban. Health secretary Steve Barclay, describes barclay, speaking now describes his ban trans women his plan to ban trans women from female victory female horse awards as a victory for common sense war on woke trade secretary Kemi Badenoch delivered a rousing speech on race, brexit race, gender and brexit yesterday in which she said that britain is the country britain is the best country in the world in to black. The world in which to be black. I tell my children that this is the world i tell my children that this is be the world i tell my children that this is be black the world i tell my children that this is be black because the world i tell my children that this is be black because it. He world i tell my children that this is be black because it is world to be black because it is a country that sees people not labels cheaper food shop. Labels and a cheaper food shop. For the first in two for the first time in two years, a monthly years, theres been a monthly drop prices. Good drop in food prices. Good news. Will continue . Weve will this trend continue . Weve talked minister this talked to the food minister this morning. Talked to the food minister this mo allg. Talked to the food minister this mo all of that and lot more to all of that and a lot more to come this morning. First, though, here is the news with. Aaron good morning to you. Its a minute past 11, Aaron Armstrong here in the gb newsroom. 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He is to make an is expected, though, to make an announcement about the future of the conservative announcement about the future of the conference conservative announcement about the future of the conference tomorrow. Tive Party Conference tomorrow. Meanwhile, the government is set to from female to ban trans women from female hospital wards were hospital wards who were expecting the Health Secretary, steve the Steve Barclay, to say that the plan will help restore common sense to nhs. Due on sense to the nhs. Hes due on stage the tory conference stage at the tory conference shortly and will announce proposals to push back wokery in the health service. Hes told the health service. Hes told the telegraph the move will protect womens rights under the changes. Trans patients would changes. Trans patients would be treated in separate accommodation. Junior doctors accommodation. Junior doctors are expected to hold a rally outside the Conference Centre in manchester shortly. Theyve started a three day strike in england alongside consultants in a row over pay radiographers have also walked out for 24 hours, meaning tens of thousands of patients will be unable to have scans. Today the British Medical Association wants the government to return to the negotiating table. Theyve negotiating table. Theyve warned if a credible deal isnt offered, new dates will offered, new strike dates will be set for november and december. The government, though, says this years pay rise was final. The government, though, says this fairrs pay rise was final. The government, though, says this fair settlement was final. The government, though, says this fair settlement. as final. The government, though, says this fair settlement. Motorists and fair settlement. Motorists who carry out sexually motivated, motivated attacks will automatically face a whole life sentence under new powers as the legal expectation on judges will apply retrospectively to those who have already been charged with the crime but are yet to be sentenced. The justice secretary , alex chalk, says for the most dangerous and depraved killers , dangerous and depraved killers, life should really mean life , life should really mean life, where that is the option that judges should be thinking about as an initial proposition. As an initial proposition. An it now becomes the default. So its what should happen unless , of course, the judge unless, of course, the judge decides there are exceptional circumstances. That circumstances. And we think that puts in the right place, puts the law in the right place, that meets the instincts of the british people as say, that meets the instincts of the britisjusticele as say, that meets the instincts of the britisjustice and as say, that meets the instincts of the britisjustice and provides, iy, that meets the instincts of the britisjustice and provides, you does justice and provides, you know comfort for know, a crumb of comfort for families after the most appalling crimes that they feel justice is truly being served. Justice is truly being served. The justice secretary is also expected to announce plans to introduce jades law to parliament, named afterjade ward, who was murdered by russell marsh in 2021. The bill will strip parental rights from those who kill their partner , those who kill their partner, despite serving at least 25 years in prison. He still retains rights regarding his children. A 12 year old boy is children. A 12 year old boy is in Critical Condition after being struck by lightning in hertfordshire. It happened hertfordshire. It happened dunng hertfordshire. It happened during a football tournament at the seale school in hertford on monday afternoon. The boy, who monday afternoon. The boy, who was from another school , was was from another school, was taken to addenbrookes hospital in cambridge. A man in his 50s was also struck. Lightning also was also struck. Lightning also struck a recycling plant in oxfordshire and it caused a huge fire, a big fireball lit up the sky as well. When a gas tank exploded at the Food Processing plant in cassington yesterday. Firefighters tackled a blaze overnight and are still monitoring the site. No injuries have been reported. Donald trump have been reported. Donald trump has attacked a judge and a prosecutor on the first day of his fraud trial in new york. The former us president is accused of falsifying Business Records and Financial Statements to inflate his own fortune by as much as 2. 2 billion. The attorney, james letitia, the attorney, james letitia, the attorney general, Letitia James, accused him of lying about his property empire and overvaluing assets to get favourable bank loans. But trump hit back, saying the trial is a sham and ms james is corrupt and the judge should be disbarred along with making fresh claims of election interference. This and election interference. This and were going to take you live to manchester now. I mentioned that the Health Secretary Steve Barclay, is about to give his speech. While hes doing that now, live to the now, lets go live to the conservative Party Conference now, lets go live to the consyear. Ive Party Conference last year. But conference as conservatives are. What matters to me most is not inputs. It is the outcomes for patients. And the outcomes for patients. And were making significant progress with the help of new technology. We take strokes. We technology. We take strokes. We are using ai technology. We take strokes. We are using al to speed up brain scans, meaning thousands of patients have fully recovered who may not have. And by the end who may not have. And by the end of the year , this technology of the year, this technology will be available in all stroke units in england and were also upgrading the nhs to offer patients a choice of up to five Different Health care providers , including independent providers , following a gp providers, following a gp referral , which the patients referral, which the Patients Association say can reduce waits by P Association say can reduce waits by up to three months. But i also know that it can sometimes take too long to roll out new innovations nationally, even when they have been proven to work in local pilots. So today, work in local pilots. So today, conference i am announcing the creation of a new £30 million fund to speed up the adoption of tech in the nhs. This will enable clinicians to adopt Proven Technology that can improve patient care, and these could include new tools to detect cancer sooner to help people receive treatment in their own home, or increase productivity to tackle waiting lists. Projects will be delivered in this financial yean delivered in this financial year, getting benefits to patients as quickly as possible i were focussed on getting the very latest technology into the hands of doctors and nurses so they can benefit you when you need it. And thats the mission i share with my fantastic Ministerial Team with will quince, helen wakely , neil quince, helen wakely, neil obrien, Maria Caulfield and lord malcolm, all supported by a brilliant ipsis gareth bacon and duncan baker and our fabulous whips, fay jones and lord evans i the conference. The conference. I want to be clear. We want i want to be clear. We want to give patients more choice and control over their care and we can only do that with long term thinking. Take our long term workforce plan. The larger expansion. In expansion. In well, that was Steve Barclay. The health said were delighted in the studio with us though, here in manchester is the tories london susan london mayoral candidate susan hall. Susan, extraordinary. Hall. Susan, extraordinary. Everybody thought it was a pushover , easy for sadiq khan. Pushover, easy for sadiq khan. Hes been in two terms, yeah, two points ahead of you in the latest poll. Is that down to your huge personality and vision or is it down to his hated expansion of the ultra low emission zone . Oh, i think theres lots of reasons for this. I mean, obviously, the expansion zone is a disaster because he didnt listen to what anybody wanted. He never listens to what anybody wants. He does to what anybody wants. He does exactly he thinks hell do. Exactly what he thinks hell do. But ive said all along, i will stop on day one, which i stop it on day one, which i will. People also very, will. But people are also very, very concerned about policing in london. I mean, weve seen some tragic instances just in the last couple of couple of days, really. And, you know, he has got to get a grip. But if not, i will absolutely get a grip. And those that know me know policing is my absolute passion. And im very concerned about things that go london and we need to go on in london and we need to put it right. Its a brutal bear pit that youve thrown yourself into. And youve thrown yourself into. And were seeing all sorts of left wing press in particular going after you. I would argue in a way that they dont necessarily go after male candidates. And i go after male candidates. And i dont mind saying that. Why is susan, do you want to do susan, why do you want to do this . Why important to this . Why is it important to you . Because been born you . Because i ive been born and bred in london. I love london genuinely. And ihave i love london genuinely. And i have seen it deteriorate under sadiq khan over the last seven years. And somebodys got to get in there and make a difference with common sense policies and somebodys got to go in there and say what they think. Now theyll always be media storms. The minute say what you think. I was going to say, what you think sometimes gets you into trouble you got into trouble because you got into trouble. Well, trouble. Now youre. Well, ill ask about said it ask you about it. You said it here know how here yesterday. I know how frightened of the jewish frightened some of the Jewish Community because of the community is because of the divisive attitude khan divisive attitude of sadiq khan. Mean . Well, im. What do you mean . Well, im just going back to policing the way the policing is in london. So many jewish people do not feel safe. Thats wrong. And i will never apologise for defending the Jewish Community. Ive got so many friends that are literally talking of leaving the country because they dont feel safe. That is unacceptable in london. Jewish people. Yes. Yes. Yes. Leaving the country . Leaving the country . Going israel. I mean, yes. Going to israel. I mean, it shouldnt be in that state since sadiq khan has taken over these sort of attacks have doubled, literally doubled. I doubled, literally doubled. I think theres been over a thousand or around about 1000 so far this year. Attacks on jewish men and women. Yes thats right. Physical attacks or verbal or recorded attacks . Recorded attacks . I dont have the list. But thats not good enough. So i will look after all different communities. He is will look after all different communities. He is in will look after all different communities. He is in charge of communities. He is in charge of the police. He should make sure our streets are safer. Are you getting the support you should have . This is a huge important election next year. If you win, it will be a massive blow to keir starmer. The labour party. Here we are blow to keir starmer. The labour pathis here we are blow to keir starmer. The labour pathis conference. Here we are blow to keir starmer. The labour pathis conference. Wevee are blow to keir starmer. The labour pathis conference. Weve gote at this conference. Weve got steve speaking the Steve Bartley speaking at the main platform. Main conference platform. Theyve a speaking theyve not given you a speaking role main platform. Why . Role on the main platform. Why . Andrew you know what all andrew do you know what all the media are asking me . It the media are asking me . It really genuinely doesnt bother me. Im not that im not the sort of person that bothers about state yeah, i want to talk to londoners that would give me a platform for the whole of the country. I want to talk to londoners. I never am country. I want to talk to londoners. I never am i more happy than im listening to londoners what they say londoners hearing what they say and talking to where and talking to events where there are londoners, which is what but do you what ive been doing. But do you think the conservatives just that going to that where we arent going to win so were win the election so were not putting behind it . Putting the resources behind it . Like, are you able to get funding easily for your campaign . Ive got some very generous donors that are beginning to come on board, and im very, very grateful to them. But i shall make sure i spend their money very, very wisely. But im money very, very wisely. But im very lucky i will if a donor gives me money, they give it to me just straight. It was no strings attached. Nothing. Its so important to me that everything is transparent and it will be. Thats unusual because there will be people. There have been will be people. There have been over many years in politics who want to get somewhere. They will take the money to help them because there might be a little reward some point in the reward at some point in the future, especially london reward at some point in the future,withycially london reward at some point in the future,with the ly london reward at some point in the future,with the powerondon reward at some point in the future,with the power youd have mayor with the power youd have in our capital city. How easy is it down sorts of offers . I wouldnt go near its i wouldnt go near it. Its couldnt be easier. I will not be swayed by that. Ill be swayed londoners think and swayed what londoners think and what londoners want, like sadiq khan should have looked at the ulez thought, no, ulez expansion and thought, no, you know, londoners dont want this. They really dont want this. They really dont want this. They really dont want this. But he this. They really dont want this. But he wont this. They really dont want this. But he wont listen. This. But he wont listen. I will listen to what londoners want. You can never please all the people all of the time. We know that because people have got differing you got differing views. But you have listen. Have to listen. I was talking to a taxi i was i was talking to a taxi driver yesterday. We driver yesterday. And as we know, taxi drivers this know, the taxi drivers in this country of all country are the font of all knowledge. Nothing knowledge. There is nothing that they opinion on. They dont have an opinion on. And always get into a and always when i get into a taxi theyre complaining and always when i get into a taxi roadworkscomplaining and always when i get into a taxi roadworks,omplaining and always when i get into a taxi roadworks , particularly in about roadworks, particularly in london and they say some days it isnt worth me coming to work because i cant do the mileage to make it worth me taking my car out on the road. What would you do about the state of our roads . Okay, theres quite a few issues here. First of all, 20 mile an hour zones on like the zones on places like the finchley Utter Nonsense is finchley road. Utter nonsense is utter thats another thing. Theres a main road. Theres a main road. Sorry. Yes for your view. Its its a main road into its a its a main road into london. So 3 or 4 lanes. I mean, ludicrous around schools and around hospitals and little side roads are completely get. Yeah but not on main artery roads. So the taxi drivers are complaining about that but also if you look at ltns low traffic neighbourhoods, theyre great for people live there, for the people that live there, except couldnt get except because you couldnt get a to take you home or a taxi to take you home or whatever, causing whatever, but its just causing backlog for the all the rest of the streets. And of course, when you get idling cars, thats not good for pollution either. Its also absolutely gridlocking all our roads. You look at park lane in the middle of london, youve got a bicycle lane being put on one side of it, just literally next to a bike lane in the park. Next door is virtue signalling again from sidique khan . Hed again from sidique khan . Hed have us all out of cars. Im so pleased with the governments attitude now to ltns to these radical 20 mile an hour zones. Weve got to put some common sense back and thats what londoners want. Lets go back to what bev was talking about earlier about the attacks on you. So youre limiting youre on limiting your youre less on social now than you used social media now than you used to be. That because youre to be. Is that because youre getting so many poisonous attacks on you . Attacks. Oh, poisonous attacks. I mean, to be honest, ive got used to that over the years. No, used to that over the years. No, i think the problem is youve got people are forensically looking at everything i do. And assuming very often completely incorrect things. So im going incorrect things. So im going to be careful. I mean , when to be careful. I mean, when youre not in the public eye as that, you can like things and without any consequences at all. I mean, those of us that are serial tweeters know that you you flick through your phone, youll look at it and youll press like light, light, light, light. Without real. Yeah you know, without. Are you to going is that an admission that you perhaps did some said some things on some youve said some things on social like things that social media or like things that perhaps you shouldnt of. I probably like things that people missed construed why people have missed construed why i like them. Yes, absolutely. I like them. Yes, absolutely. And all know that. And of and we all know that. And of course, if youre labour, youll make the most of that. So ive make the most of that. So ive absolutely the position absolutely given the position im in now, will not be doing that. Its so difficult, isnt it, because you would. I saw you talking the other night and you accidentally im accidentally said when im labour are you. I labour mayor. Right. Are you. I think went to say the word think you went to say the word leave you said leave leader and you said laboun leave leader and you said labour. So you know, thats labour. And so you know, thats human. Those things happen. I human. Those things happen. I know, but when you, when you come off a stage and youve made a gaffe like that, we do them regularly on this show. We never know what is. Always know what time it is. He always says when 1020, says its 1120. When its 1020, you these things happen, you know, these things happen, especially youre especially when youre in in a pubuc especially when youre in in a public space and youre talking. So i guess what youre saying is people that too people are taking that too seriously. Theyre on those. They are, yes. They are, yes. They are, yes. To illustrate you as something that youre not. Yes. They want want to me they want they want to put me in special box and say, look, in a special box and say, look, shes this shes that. Well, i will fight back because at the end of the day, we should have free speech. People shouldnt assume they know what i meant because get that because very often they get that wrong. Sometimes it suits them politically. It definitely suits politically. It definitely suits them well. Im not having it. I will carry on as i am and i will speak what i consider to be my feelings and the truth. And well said. Said. Will you do what kim sadiq khanis will you do what kim sadiq khan is doing . Are you going to fly all around the world at our expense . Public expense, lecturing climate lecturing us about Climate Change . No, youre not going to do that. Do that. No, i am. I mean, how ridiculous is that . Oh, im just flying around to flying around the world to tell you fly the you dont fly around the thousand world miles. Thats right. Thats right. Taking all his Team Including taking all his team to argentina. I know about climate cannabis Climate Change and cannabis factories as well. Would i be going abroad selling london blooming right . I would. Its the best city in the world. We need more visitors. We need more investment. Yes, need more investment. Yes, i would be, but i would not be lecturing people on Climate Change. When been driving change. When id been driving a car to the airport id been car to the airport or id been flying in. Of course not. So the elections on may the 2nd next year. Do you need 2nd next year. What do you need to do, susan, between now and then to push lead to the then to push that lead to the front, talk to the really good people of london, explain that i am on their side. I am for common sense policy , liz. And actually, i want to Start Talking for majority. Start talking for the majority. We talk about smaller we always talk about smaller groups and of course smaller groups and of course smaller groups looked after. Groups should be looked after. But as a as a member of the public, years ago, without any connection to this, used to connection to this, i used to think, hang on minute, think, well, hang on a minute, what us . What about the majority of us . Who for the who is standing up for the Majority Party . Who is standing up for the ma can party . Who is standing up for the ma can iparty . Who is standing up for the ma can i ask . Who is standing up for the ma can i ask you just one final can i ask you just one final question . You question . When you go campaigning, the best campaigning, one of the best campaigners ive ever seen on the is Boris Johnson, who the road is Boris Johnson, who was a very successful mayor of london. You take will you london. Will you take will you will the road with him . Hes already said hell help me. Anybody that cares about london and cares about us winning common sense, winning for common sense, looking after a fan of boris . Absolutely. Yes. I wish he had a sort of a stardust quality. When you walked into a room, everybody knew he was there. Its something he has that anybody who is a politician would love it. And you know, we saw heard it yesterday, nigel farage, he came in here. It was like a rock star. Really . Yeah. Do like him . Really . Yeah. Do you like him . I something, you know. No, no , youre not. No. Some of the things he said ive agreed with. I mean, im a brexiteer. Yeah hes said things in the past that i havent agreed with. But listen, nobody agrees with everybody all of the time. Certainly people agree certainly people dont agree with time, but i just with me all the time, but i just hope agree with me hope they agree with me sufficiently to vote for me on may the 2nd. Brilliant. Thank you, susan. Brilliant. Thank you, susan. Youre going to come and see us i hope. Us again soon, i hope. We need, what we and what we need, what we needin and what we need, what we need in political life are more strong opinion. Strong matriarch, in my opinion. And to that category and you come on to that category for me. Susan. So good luck with and you come on to that category for right . Usan. So good luck with and you come on to that category for right . Sunakio good luck with and you come on to that category for right . Sunak is good luck with and you come on to that category for right . Sunak is facing jck with it, right . Sunak is facing a backlash tories business backlash from tories Business Leaders leaders leaders and Northern Leaders over this morning over reports this morning suggesting the hs2 leg to suggesting that the hs2 leg to manchester will be scrapped with britains newsroom on gb news. Christys on gb news. Im gb news radio. There you go. The young lobby member its 1123. Youre with britains newsroom on gb news with andrew beth mead bev turner at the tory conference. And weve got Liam Halligan here barracking me from conference. And weve got liam halsidelinesy barracking me from conference. And weve got liam hal sidelines here. Rcking me from conference. And weve got liam hal sidelines here. Andg me from conference. And weve got liam hal sidelines here. And were from the sidelines here. And were also joined former very also joined by the former very briefly what your role in briefly, what was your role in this crisis . I was environment secretary there, minister before i was environment secretary there, minister minister before i was environment secretary there, minister renault er before i was environment secretary there, minister renault zoeyfore i was environment secretary there, minister renault zoe and trade minister renault zoe and were going to talk you, were going to talk to you, first about food prices. First of all, about food prices. News. First of all, about food prices. Worth 5. First of all, about food prices. Worth saying this isnt its worth saying this isnt a from the labour party a story from the labour Party Conference here manchester. Conference here in manchester. Its story. Yeah, now its a broader story. Yeah, now we did you just say the labour did you just say the labour Party Conference . Party here in conference . The tory party . The tory party . Im glad you well done. Im glad you clarified. Clarified that. Absolutely. Next week. Absolutely. Thats next week. Absolutely. Thats next week. Actually went to bed no, i actually went to bed early. Right is okay, early. Right who is okay, andrew, this is a family show. Come on. This a story from come on. This isnt a story from Party Conference. This is a story about inflation in British Retail Consortium have come up with these food Price Inflation numbers. Now with these food Price Inflation numbers. Now we with these food Price Inflation numbers. Now we know that numbers. Now we know that inflation fell last month from july to august, and expectedly, headune july to august, and expectedly, headline inflation from. 6. 8 to headline inflation from. 6. 8 to 6. 7. That was ons numbers, official numbers. But within that food Price Inflation, annual food Price Inflation was up at 13 to 14. Huge food Price Inflation still now the headunes inflation still now the headlines from the British Retail Consortium this morning tell us that food Price Inflation has fallen. But let me explain. Explain. Its the first time in two years. Yes, but its fallen month on month. It fell in september, month. It fell in september, right. Month. It fell in september, right. Compared to month. It fell in september, right. Compared to august by right. Compared to august by nought point 1. Not much. Then a move in the right direction, but on an annual basis, september compared to last september, food prices, according to the British Retail Consortium , are still retail consortium, are still 9. 9 more expensive. So all the 9. 9 more expensive. So all the headunes 9. 9 more expensive. So all the headlines are food Price Inflation is down. Im to here explain to you the reality month on month food Price Inflation is down, but year on year food Price Inflation is still almost in double digits, which is too high, which is far too high. Now, the british retailers consortium, you know, they would say this, wouldnt they . Oh, theres huge competition between supermarkets there supermarkets and im sure there is competition between is some competition between supermarkets. Say as supermarkets. But i must say as a whole, food retailing a whole, the food Retailing Sector is still charging too much, given if you look at whats happened to global food pnces whats happened to global food prices on wholesale markets, which down sharply. Which are down sharply. Well, lets bring in randall here, because you were yesterday at liz trusss big speech. You were supporter liz truss. Were a supporter of liz truss. You her leadership. You you backed her leadership. You were cabinet. Shes were in her cabinet. Shes talking about Cutting Corporation food inflation. Corporation tax, food inflation. Inflation still far high. Inflation is still far too high. 10 annual 9. 9. Is this why this government has got to cut taxes and soon . Well, i think cutting taxes not only feeds through to consumer prices, but actually helps businesses grow in the first place. And, you know, we need to create jobs. We need to create for this create the wealth for this country. Only that by country. And we only do that by enabung country. And we only do that by enabling businesses to thrive. And not corporation and its not just Corporation Tax or the conservative growth group chair. Were group that i chair. Were calling for the reversal of the ir35 that made it really ir35 rules that made it really hard Small Businesses , as hard for Small Businesses, as davis was talking about. They say that really Small Businesses absolutely right. Accountants fees, it admin, accountants fees, it really and the vat really hurts. And the vat registration well, really hurts. And the vat regi know, 1 well, really hurts. And the vat regi know, 1 businesses you know, so many businesses stop at 85 k because they know theyll have to charge 20 extra. If they go a penny over. Its insane. Weve left the eu. No, now we dont have to follow their rules and we should seize their rules and we should seize the opportunity of Small Businesses. The opportunity of small busin we as. The opportunity of small busin we still are. I think we think we still are. I think we still are people here, the still are the people here, the response yesterday, i mean, people queuing door, 200 people queuing out the door, 200 people queuing out the door, 200 people had to be turned away. Sadly you know, here sadly you know, people here are still very supportive of these small and Small Business policies and indeed, for people indeed, cutting taxes for people to. To. Are they still supportive of her, i think the there her, liz truss i think the there is absolutely a desire excuse me, for the agenda to cut taxes. Its a very diplomatic answer i she her speech went down very well. She was good. I was at the meeting because i was chairing the meeting. So i introduced liz truss. I introduced liz truss. I introduced ranil, i introduced Jacob Rees Mogg , i introduced Jacob Rees Mogg, i introduced priti patel, and i must say, ive been doing this stuff quite a long time, to going Parliamentary Political fringe meetings , all, all the party meetings, all, all the Party Conferences over many years. And what we saw yesterday was a good Old Fashioned parliament fringe meeting that challenged the party consensus. It was one hour before the chancellor stood up. It was massively well attended, absolutely attended in the charts. It drove all the headlines yesterday day and it was my job to be there and chair and compare and be a journalist , compare and be a journalist, which is what i was. But i must say i havent seen liz truss speak as well as she did yesterday ever. There was none of the woodenness i think shes been the same pressure. I think shes freedom. Shes been freed up because she no longer is shouldering the tyranny of the ambition of wanting to lead her country. Her party and lead her country. Looks like beyond and she looks like beyond that, responded the love that, she responded to the love in the room. Right . Shes only human. Took human. And she took such a bashing when pm. And bashing when she was pm. And immediately aftennards. And now there was so much support for her that she really stepped into it. And i think she was talking without she . Without notes, wasnt she . Talking notes she was talking without notes and something really and something a really interesting politics interesting piece of politics happened, so. Happened, if i may say so. Randall happened you randall and it happened when you were in your speech. Did an aside to me because in my introductory remarks this this is in my introductory is important in my introductory remarks, i said that these four members, these four former cabinet ministers, all of them, and one a former Prime Minister they were all part of this grouping on the conservative backbenchers, the conservative growth group, which of course randall the leader. Randall is the leader. And i said , as hopefully an informed said, as hopefully an informed journalist, there are there are upwards of 50 members. Thats quite a lot of the Parliamentary Party. And randall in an aside said to me actually liam joking he said i think youll find were nearer 60, were growing. So the next time i got on the stage to introduce the next speaken stage to introduce the next speaker, i said, isnt this interesting . Because that because of that parliamentary, that conservative growth , a big chunk of growth group, a big chunk of them said they not them have said they will not vote government vote for any government legislation that puts taxes up, including patel. So including priti patel. So including priti patel. So including patel. So if including priti patel. So if theres liz so theres including liz truss. So if there is a budget statement, an autumn statement or a budget next year and the obr says this puts up the total amount of gdp thats taken by tax, a huge chunk of the Parliamentary Party by the governments own mps wont vote for it. Right. And the number of them is about the same size, 60 as the governments current working majority. If the government cant get its budget bill through, thats a no confidence. Can you tell us who the new names are whove come fonnard . Its in the interest of openness and transparency. Names that and transparency. Any names that we know . We would know . We reveal our no, we dont reveal our names. Not like, you know, names. Were not like, you know, one research and one of the Research Groups and so its for members so on. Well its for members themselves to set out whether they support agenda , their they support our agenda, their mps absolutely in mps and ministers. Absolutely in fact, there are also additional folks who are even serving ministers who with what ministers who agree with what were about. Know, were talking about. You know, the are. Theres the there you are. Theres a break for you right now. You know , i couldnt possibly know, i couldnt possibly call it. Know , but more is it. But, you know, but more is enjoying this more but but the officially members or are they no , no, no. Theyre supporters. No, no, no. Theyre supporters. Theyre supporters. But you know theyre supporters. But you know dozen no , not quite as many as dozen no, not quite as many as that in the ministerial cadre. No, we dont have a Whatsapp Group again, to protect peoples, you screenshot peoples, you know, screenshot peoples, you know, screenshot peoples names. Thats right. Thats peoples names. Thats right. Tha people peoples names. Thats right. Thapeople like me would then get people like me would then get hold of the whatsapp. Undoubtedly be a great journalist, phone. Undoubtedly be a great journeexactly. Phone. Undoubtedly be a great journe exactly. Know, le. Undoubtedly be a great journeexactly. Know, the yeah, exactly. You know, the point the is this point the point is this just shows economic shows that the Economic Growth agenda hasnt gone away. In fact, its absolutely crucial for this country. And, you know, weve living in this sort weve been living in this sort of in the whole western of in the whole of the western world in this sort of social democratic model for the last 25 years. Wanted to break years. No ones wanted to break out and whilst they out of it. And whilst they stopped liz trying to do that and has admitted and whilst liz has admitted herself, she could have done things different way, things in a different way, i think ideas at the heart of think the ideas at the heart of it need to be explored still. Just very briefly , those just very briefly, those ministers whove come to indicate their support for the commission is that this week or in the last couple over last in the last couple over the last few right. Few months right. And what youre saying, just how trying to how is it . Im just trying to relate this relevant to relate how this is relevant to our at home, what our audience at home, what youre liam, this youre saying, liam, is if this group has such momentum that they could genuinely scupper budgetary ambition, stop the government between the before the election. If a government cannot get its through or every its budget bill through or every time theres an autumn statement or budget, theres a piece of or a budget, theres a piece of legislation called a finance bill, that has to go bill, right . That then has to go through enact through parliament to enact everything to bring the government that will everything to bring the goverthent that will everything to bring the goverthe governmenthat will everything to bring the goverthe government down,. L because. Do you want to do that . Do you want to do that . No. They can threaten. No. They can threaten. Can threaten. They can threaten. They can threaten. Thats certainly not our intention. On intention. We actually focus on trying the trying to work with the government to do government to push them to do the they scrap the right thing. So they scrap the right thing. So they scrap the allowance, for the lifetime allowance, for example, doctors stay in example, to help doctors stay in pubuc example, to help doctors stay in public yeah, absolutely public service. Yeah, absolutely. So we got that win. Theyre listening inheritance tax, listening on inheritance tax, which terrible death tax which is a terrible death tax that need to get rid of in that we need to get rid of in this country and costs a fraction of the treasurys revenue. That ranil is, if i revenue. And that ranil is, if i may say so, for the benefit of our and listeners, that our viewers and listeners, that is well spoken but a very is a very well spoken but a very clear that that is what clear threat that that is what is. Threatening people. Is. Threatening people. What what i mean is if there are and im not saying that there arent if there are upwards of 60 members of this conservative growth group and the governments working majority is 60, which it is once you take out sinn fein and the parliamentary tellers and the speaker and all the rest of it, then these guys could threaten to stop the budget bill. And i have to stop our conversation. Dead as well. Gentlemen, lovely to see you. Thank you so much. Really, really interesting denying it. Right. Have right. Andrew is going to have a little walk around the conference floor in the next few minutes. But first of all, heres the. News heres erin with the. News its 1132. Heres erin with the. News its1132. Im Erin Armstrong its 1132. Im Erin Armstrong in the newsroom. Businesses are demanding immediate clarity as confusion continues over the future of the northern leg of hs2. Rishi sunak has refused to hs2. 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I wonder it would be my mp if i was still living in swindon swindon, south. I can intrude on private grief here. Robert because last year you speaking from the year you were speaking from the conference you conference platform because you were the justice secretary. Back in well, thats right. Back in 19 i would have been the main hall. But, you know, things move on. A is a cruel on. Politics is a is a cruel trade. And im back the trade. And im back here on the on the floor and enjoying seeing all exhibits. All the exhibits. Well, lets have a wander round. How do you think the conference going . Because round. How do you think the confere been going . Because round. How do you think the conferebeen goi|hugeecause round. How do you think the confere been goi|huge row se round. How do you think the confere been goi|huge row over theres been this huge row over hs2. Explain to me, as hs2. Can you explain to me, as a former member of the cabinet, how got how the cabinet have got themselves huge about themselves into a huge row about a link is going to be a rail link which is going to be cancelled the Conference Cancelled when the conference is in manchester former in manchester in a former Railway Station . Think cant well, look, i think you cant guard and guard against leaks. And i gather that a few ago, gather that a few weeks ago, a canny photographer took a picture of a minute that then led to the whole story developing. And, you know, the developing. And, you know, the Prime Minister has got to make some tough decisions. Its not an job, a very lonely job. An easy job, a very lonely job. I needs a bit of time i think he needs a bit of time and to the best and space to make the best informed decision he can because this public money were this is public money were talking and hes got talking about. And hes got weve that we weve got to make sure that we spend wisely and what spend it wisely and what about tory comments . Spend it wisely and what about tory com isynts . Spend it wisely and what about tory com is the . Spend it wisely and what about tory com is the what is the point what is the what is the point of tory conference . Well, i mean, look, this is a great for tory family great moment for the tory family to year. To come together every year. This is my 28th conference. Andrew yes, youve heard it from me. 1986 was my first tory Party Conference. Margaret thatcher. This rose is the rose of england , which you might remember. It was a great, great speech. Was a great, great speech. Those were the days when there was real leadership in the tory party, right . Margaret thatcher, the greatest leader of thisshe was from church. Well, she was from church. Well, she an extraordinary she was an extraordinary person. And we all remember and you know, we all remember her very fondly indeed as her very, very fondly indeed as somebody as the resolute approach, always approach, as the words. I always associate with but, you associate with her. But, you know , we mustnt nostalgic. Know, we mustnt be nostalgic. Looking back is a good thing. But wallowing in nostalgia is not what were about. And in modern modern modern politics, in modern government , complex decisions government, complex decisions have made every day. I have to be made every day. I made thousands of decisions as the secretary of state. No no. But i. I took the best decisions on the best evidence at the time. And im confident meant that looking back , my record was that looking back, my record was a good one. I changed sentencing, did a lot of reforms that i wanted to do for years and toughened up the system in a way i think the public would support. But, you know, politics, careers politics, political careers dont to last long, dont seem to last that long, andrew. I in the glare andrew. I mean, in the glare of publicity, seem to sort of publicity, they seem to sort of disappear very quickly , dont disappear very quickly, dont they . And i think thats a thats sad reflection thats a sad reflection of where we. We are. Youre gb news now. Weve youre on gb news now. Weve had people priti had people like priti patel saying fabulous it is to saying how fabulous it is to have news such a big part of have gb news such a big part of the political narrative now. But whats view . Whats your view . Im willing well, you know, im a willing participant gb news whos participant on gb news whos always happy to come on your show and some some of the other shows. Sign of a shows. I think its a sign of a vibrant that we have vibrant democracy that we have different news channels gb different news channels like gb news their contributions. News making their contributions. So a full throated supporter so im a full throated supporter. Look here. Oh, yes. Now look over here. Oh, yes. Now at these lovely things now look at these lovely things you here. You can buy here. You to buy me im not asking you to buy me anything. Something anything. Theres something called tory boy called here. Theres a tory boy. Look at this ,. Look at this. Look at this, robert. Look at this. Tory boy. Well, i dont know about the boy anymore. I mean, i think im a little more mature than that. Did you . Yeah. Its good, though. Theyre nice. Theyre rather nice. Theyre rather nice. Good. Rather good. Rather good. We probably dont want that. I hate people. No, im not sure about that. Think thats sure about that. I think thats probably labour economic policy. This good granada. Look at this is a good granada. Look at that. This is a good granada. Look at that. Oh, no, no. This is a good granada. Look at that. Oh, no, no. This is about this. So we are getting nostalgia because manchester, the home of granada great independent Production Company , independent Production Company, produced coronation street and many other great dramas. Andrew and i grew up with this sign from the north granada. Elsie tannen from the north granada. Elsie tanner, elsie tanner, pat phoenix , a great, a great phoenix, a great, a great character. And of course, who can forget sharples and of can forget ena sharples and of course, the great albert tatlock. Now thats thats digging into past. Digging deep into the past. So this is me with robert. Robert, come tell us who are. Robert buckland witness and former justice secretary , who former justice secretary, who this year would this time last year would have been the platform i love you to talk to you. Back to you, beverly, the panel to you, beverly, with the panel i okay. Thank you, andrew. I am back here in our little studio with nigel nelson on and Charlie Rowley this morning. Hello, gentlemen , both putting your gentlemen, both putting your phones away very quickly. Its a fast moving situation here, isnt it . Theres loads of stories be allowed stories we wouldnt be allowed this in school, would we . About mobile phones . Know about the mobile phones . Yes, exactly. Yes, exactly. I to say, lets talk i have to say, lets talk about that for a minute. I think thatis about that for a minute. I think that is such news that is such a good news story that is such a good news story that Gillian Keegan has, saying that Gillian Keegan has, saying that shes going to ban phones in what you make of it . Long as the kids arent as long as the kids arent doing need to keep doing live news and need to keep up it . I think thats up with it . I think thats absolutely yeah. You absolutely right. Yeah. When you actually you actually get to school, what you should on is should be doing on is concentrating lessons. Concentrating on your lessons. Its quite right that they also dont get access to their phones dunng dont get access to their phones during break times. Yes, i think during break times. Yes, i think the is and lot of the answer is and a lot of schools anyway when the schools do it anyway when the child gets to school, you hand in your mobile the end of the in your mobile at the end of the day, when you leave, you pick it up again. Its fairly simple. Up again. Its fairly simple. Yeah. And it means they can concentrate on what theyre doing. I think charlie. I think i think so, charlie. I think the implications as well for the concentration these concentration span of these kids, their kids, the constantly half their mind distracted. We all do mind is distracted. We all do it. Weve all it. Sitting it. Weve all done it. Sitting here, ill just here, were thinking, ill just quickly happening here, were thinking, ill just quitwitter. Happening here, were thinking, ill just quitwitter. Check. Happening here, were thinking, ill just quitwitter. Check. Kidsening on twitter. Ill check. Kids need to concentrate in the classroom. They absolutely do. And youre right. Youre absolutely right. When were a twitter were looking at a twitter to get latest news, kids are get the latest news, kids are usually on today instagram or tiktok, where theres lots of videos and content that they get distracted theres distracted by. Theres also a lot of bullying that place lot of bullying that takes place online, harms. So taking online, online harms. So taking all of the all of that away out of the classroom allow kids to focus classroom to allow kids to focus on theyre to do, on what theyre there to do, which study, to to which is to study, to learn to get best they get the best education they possibly the possibly can without the distractions its distractions. I think its a welcome move. Distractions. I think its a wellome move. Distractions. I think its a well do. Move. Distractions. I think its a well do. Inove. Its i think i do. I think its i think its a brave thing to say. I think its commonsensical. And im massively gillian im massively behind Gillian Keegan one. So the other keegan on that one. So the other speech we heard earlier this week, is jeremy week, this is jeremy hunt talking about clamping on talking about clamping down on the benefits the work shy and benefits claimants. And when i was claimants. And when i was listening to this, nigel, i was thinking, on. It is thinking, well, hang on. It is already difficult to claim benefits you cant benefits if you cant demonstrate looking demonstrate that youre looking for work. How is it for work. So how is it different . We know yet . Different . Do we know yet . No, because he wont tell us. I mean, a lot of things around here hs2 and on, no one here like hs2 and so on, no one will actually tell any detail will actually tell us any detail about so all he about whats going on. So all he said wants to clamp down said is he wants to clamp down it could be on, it could be making worse against making sanctions worse against people if they dont, turning up for work interviews. The one area where i think he might go for. But well have to see when he when he announces his autumn statement is there is a system whereby if you get benefit or earnings of up to about £355 a month , you then have to go to month, you then have to go to the compulsory job centre interviews that that that is being raised to £494 which captures is an extra 114,000 people. So what it means is even if youre sick , what you have to if youre sick, what you have to do, youre claiming some benefits. You may work part time, you will have to go to compulsory job centre interviews, what they call a work Incentive Programme to try and get you into a job or a better job. Popular then. Do you think charlie . Charlie . Well, i think it will be because whats obviously clear in the chancellor and the secretary of state for the Department Work Pensions Department of work and pensions have that have clearly identified that there too people there are far too many people that on the benefit that are still on the benefit system arent into system that arent going into work that are refusing to work or that are refusing to turn to the job centres to turn up to the job centres to get training to go get the sort of training to go into coupled with the into work. So coupled with the increase minimum wage up increase in the minimum wage up to and that might increase to £11 and that might increase further the further if thats what the living sort of Living Wage Commission sort of come you could have come out with. So you could have an in the minimum wage an increase in the minimum wage and have more people and you should have more people not benefits that are not relying on benefits that are moving jobs moving into for work and jobs because you know, its not just about earning wage in a job. About earning a wage in a job. You the skills. You you have the social skills. You know, a its a purpose know, you have a its a purpose and value in life. Have used the word that have you used the word that i like to use word shirkers . Should be supporting yes, we should be supporting the not the shirkers. The workers, not the shirkers. And was in the and and thats what was in the and there people are there are people and there are people are sick and there people who are sick and there are who arent there who are people who arent there who there are shirkers. Some who. There are some people who. Yes dont want to get a job, but rather live on benefits. I dont rather live on benefits. I dont think theres as many as that youd like to pretend. I think the governments saying 100,000. Thats quite a lot. The 100,000 theyre talking aboutis the 100,000 theyre talking about is something completely different. So these are these different. So so these are these are who who will are people who who will get intensive work training. So and its just changing the threshold at which they get it. So these people arent sure because some of them are doing part time jobs, some of them are not won enough to do a full time job. Obviously each individual is different and some ashokas no, but the benefit system we but but the benefit system we all understand and appreciate that its there to help people that its there to help people that are absolutely in need. Should always be, you but it should always be, you know, not a hand, not a a handout, a hand up, not a hand out there you are. There you are. Good. Good. Good. Exactly right, fellas. Exactly right, fellas. What else are we talking about this morning . Weve got andrews hotfooted it back. Youve noticed from his little talk there. Nice. I bumped into if i was still living in swindon , hed be still living in swindon, hed be my mp. My local mp. Oh, right. Oh, right. Well, for now. Right. Hes the majority of 6500. Not great around here. Ive noticed a meeting with the. Businessmen have also the. The businessmen have also also turned up and you can see theyre all looking for jobs. Yeah. Look. And of course, youre already hearing of mps, tory standing down where tory mps standing down where theyve got majority of eight, nine, 10,000 because they think they may their job. And they may lose their job. And theyre thinking, we theyre already thinking, we need cv out there need to get my cv out there because want to be because they dont want to be with dozens of other mps looking for former mps are for a job because former mps are not employable , you know, for a job because former mps are not especially loyable , you know, for a job because former mps are not especially l0jthey , you know, and especially if they if theyre on jobs market and especially if they if thlthey on jobs market and especially if they if thlthey 0 time jobs market and especially if they if thlthey 0 time after market and especially if they if thlthey 0 time after an rket election. Are they not easily employable . Em ployable . Whats employable . Whats wrong with them . Whats wrong with them . To be, but i dont there used to be, but i dont think the is there anymore there used to be, but i dont thihaving is there anymore there used to be, but i dont thihaving mp s there anymore there used to be, but i dont thihaving mp orhere anymore there used to be, but i dont thihaving mp or ayre anymore there used to be, but i dont thihaving mp or a formernore there used to be, but i dont thihaving mp or a former mp1 of having an mp or a former mp headed paper. Of having an mp or a former mp heaifyd paper. Of having an mp or a former mp hea if they per. Of having an mp or a former mp hea if they cant get a normal if they cant get a normal job, why are they doing running the country . To get its much harder to get a job. Mean, imagine youre an job. I mean, imagine youre an mp whos a huge mistake mp whos made a huge mistake or say, chancellor, say, a former chancellor, kwasi kwarteng, made a huge kwarteng, who made a huge mistake. May need new kwarteng, who made a huge mislbut. May need new kwarteng, who made a huge mislbut if may need new kwarteng, who made a huge mislbut if hesay need new kwarteng, who made a huge mislbut if hes standing,ed new kwarteng, who made a huge mislbut if hes standing, hes new job, but if hes standing, hes carrying on, though. Well, if hes carrying that wont hes carrying on that he wont need for job time need a new for job the time being. Can imagine being. But you can imagine someone like that. Yes. Now would you, if you were a big finance house, would you want him on your letter headed paper . Probably not. Having trashed the economy. So i think there are some difficult them some difficult 80s with them getting jobs. Getting jobs. Particularly its particularly hard. I think also if theres a change of government, its not just standing down as a as an mp or losing seat theres losing your seat if theres a change of government. And i dont there will be, dont believe there will be, i have to say, how loyal of you, im so a breaking im sure. So there is a breaking news which cheek was your tongue in when you that . In when you said that . You im still convinced you know, im still convinced were going to get a hung parliament. Prepared parliament. Im almost prepared to bet on that. Now its not a bad bet to take. Yeah i agree. I think that the polls or theyre already closing , but the idea of a 20 point lead for labour , that isnt lead for labour, that isnt going happen. No, agree going to happen. No, i agree not. And if you look at the local results back in local Election Results back in may, if that was extrapolated nationally, that would have delivered a hung parliament. Yeah, it is possible well get one under the present polling. Youd think the lib dems might come back with 2830 mps. We are in the realms of coalition again i yeah, but i likes that coalition. But the lib dems have made it absolutely clear they will only serve. They wont be in a formal coalition with laboun in a formal coalition with labour. Theyd have explain what a supply and confidence and confidence supply. Explain how that works. Yeah. Basically the way it works is you agree to vote with the Government Party on a range of issues, so they will get their legislation, the finance bill would go through, for instance. But you dont have a formal coalition. The important thing about 2010 David Cameron is about 2010 and David Cameron is he deal of thought he put a great deal of thought into would work into how coalition would work and he embedded lib dem ministers in every department and had a deputy Prime Minister nick clegg, who was elected and two of the cabinet ministers in that cabinet lost their seat. Vince cable and ed davey. Indeed, the voters like indeed, the voters didnt like them they were they were them for it. They were they were elected as liberals and served in a tory cabinet. Clegg knew. I mean, i had conversation i mean, i had a conversation with this during the with him about this during the 2015 knew he was 2015 election. He knew he was destroying party by going destroying his party by going into coalition. The protest party. Yeah, the junior the junior partner always gets. Yeah but however, his point was and i think that i respected that if you get the chance to go into government and do something. And you turn something. Yeah. And you turn that opportunity down, what are you in it for . Yeah, absolutely. Yeah, absolutely. Only two things id the only two things id say about the polls is that i was there 2017, but i here in there in 2017, but i was here in 2017. You know, theresa may had a point the polls a 20 point lead in the polls going into the campaign. And if you back to 2010, gordon you go back to 2010, gordon brown eviscerated brown was, you know, eviscerated by this by the media. And this was a grumpy that, you grumpy chancellor that, you know, the the know, splashed the cash. The country but, you country hated him. But, you know, actually didnt know, people actually didnt feel the confidence feel they had the confidence totally voting for change in totally in voting for change in david i think David Cameron. And i think people recognise the people will recognise as the campaign will Campaign Goes on, people will look rishi and i dont look at rishi sunak and i dont think its a done deal. Agree. Think its a done deal. I agree. Theresa may was also but theresa may was also probably the worst campaigner ive probably the worst campaigner pve even probably the worst campaigner ive ever. A ive ever, ever seen, ever. As a prime was more Prime Minister. She was more wooden than the forest of dean. Wooden than the forest of dean. She was terrible. Well, thats why boris did so well immediately by comparison, by her own admission, i think she said she wasnt the best communicator. But as a campaign, was in but as a campaign, she was in her every weekend but as a campaign, she was in her knockingyvery weekend but as a campaign, she was in her knocking on y weekend but as a campaign, she was in her knocking on doors. End but as a campaign, she was in herwhat nocking on doors. End but as a campaign, she was in her what nocki talking oors. End but as a campaign, she was in her what nocki talking aboutnd what were talking about female politicians. I mean, its occurring me. We had susan female politicians. I mean, its occulinlg me. We had susan female politicians. I mean, its occulinlg just we had susan female politicians. I mean, its occulinlg just ae had susan female politicians. I mean, its occulinlg just a momentsan female politicians. I mean, its occulinlg just a moment ago. Hall in here just a moment ago. I whether you saw i dont know whether you saw that the conservative candidate for london do you for london mayor. What do you think challenge that she for london mayor. What do you thin ahead challenge that she for london mayor. What do you thin ahead of� hallenge that she for london mayor. What do you thin ahead of her . Nge that she for london mayor. What do you thin ahead of her . Because she has ahead of her . Because when she into the ring, she put her name into the ring, when the nomination, when she got the nomination, actually an actually there was an assumption. Khan assumption. Well, sidique khan is going hes going is just going to hes just going to sweep the anyway. To sweep the board anyway. London predominantly labour. London is predominantly labour. Its diverse its hugely ethnically diverse and for him. And people will vote for him. Shes very shes creeping up in a very convincing way. What does she need to do to overtake it . Well, i think that ulez is an awful lot to do with it. Massive. Massive. Its massive. It seems to have been. I mean, given what happenedin have been. I mean, given what happened in uxbridge, which has spooked this spooked every politician, this was after was the by election held after bofis boris resigned. Know protest and they i know protest and they turned it into a referendum on ulez held seat. Yes indeed. And i think thats what has spooked politicians , persons spooked all politicians, persons from party to the from the labour party to the tory think that is the tory party. I think that is the key to why rishi sunak started putting back Climate Change targets. Yeah. Yeah. Good there is a feeling out there that it was a domino effect, wasnt it, that tipped the first thing. Its right, by the way. But thats whats happened. Think brilliant. Yeah, i think its brilliant. Hes it. Hes doing it. I think susan in i think for susan in particular, know, shes particular, you know, shes a londoner. Shes a londoner. You can tell shes a londoner. You can tell shes a londoner. Talks for london, londoner. She talks for london, she stands up for london. You know decent, know where shes decent, shes decent exactly. Decent and spun and. Exactly. Exactly. Got exactly. And when she got the nomination, you remember the front page the evening front page of the evening standard. Appalling. Standard. It was appalling. Printed of printed that awful photograph of her sort of her looking a bit sort of awkward. The public awkward. I think the public see through they through that and they and they will be looking her thinking will be looking at her thinking shes london shes standing up for london versus doing shes standing up for london ver sorts doing shes standing up for london ver sorts just doing shes standing up for london ver sorts just to doing shes standing up for london ver sorts just to get doing shes standing up for london ver sorts just to get out doing shes standing up for london ver sorts just to get out ofdoing london. She may not thank me for this, but she was saying off camera that there are lots of people who saying we people around who are saying we need differently. Need to style you differently. We do makeup we need to do your makeup differently. Need your differently. We need to do your hair differently. And she says, im interested. Who hair differently. And she says, iam. Interested. Who hair differently. And she says, iam. Inteyou 5d. Who hair differently. And she says, iam. Inteyou 5d. Something i am. Dont you see something that im not . I cant be bothered having my hair bothered with having my hair done my makeup no done differently or my makeup no differently. Done differently or my makeup no differerthose sorts of having those same sorts of pressures, love that. Pressures, and i love that. Her authenticity is key. I think there arent enough women in politics is that women in politics is for that very reason. Women very reason. Yeah, women are treated politics. Very reason. Yeah, women are treated things politics. Very reason. Yeah, women are treated things like politics. Very reason. Yeah, women are treated things like that. Itics. Very reason. Yeah, women are treated things like that. Are. So it is things like that. Are you right dress . No you wearing the right dress . No one suggest a man. Are you wearing the right dress . No one wearing. |ggest a man. Are you wearing. Do you remember . Do you remember the first theresa may got wore pair of got into when she wore a pair of Amanda Wakeley trousers and she only gave them only worn for. Uk . She gave them back. Wasnt. They werent back. She wasnt. They werent even went on for. Even the first went on for. For weeks and weeks, it. Weeks and weeks, didnt it. Is why its yeah. And which is why its very difficult a in very difficult to be a woman in politics. The fact they politics. Thats the fact they get abuse. Yeah. Get far more abuse. Yeah. Well shes certainly yeah. Well shes certainly getting a lot of isnt getting a lot of abuse isnt she. Saying and i do feel she. She is saying and i do feel that, know that, you know female politicians, whether its theresa liz theresa may, whether it was liz truss, the policies and truss, whatever the policies and the views of truss, you the views of liz truss, you know, i think know, know, i think she, you know, being might being a woman, i think she might have rougher ride than if have got a rougher ride than if a male Prime Minister was without nigel without a doubt, right . Nigel nelson rowley, always Nelson Charlie rowley, always great well great to see you. No doubt well hit bar a little bit later. Hit the bar a little bit later. Right next, the desk right up next, is the live desk with longhurst and pip with Mark Longhurst and pip tomson hi, guys. What have you got programme . Well got on todays programme . Well i dont know whether we can see them. Why have they got why are they playing this . I dont know. I quite like it i dont know. I quite like it though. Maybe we should just. Can you hear this . 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Meanwhile, High Pressure building from pressure is building from the south going to south and that is going to quieten weather across quieten our weather down across southern through southern parts this week through the tuesday, though, the rest of tuesday, though, yes, there yes, its breezy and there are plenty of showers some plenty of showers around, some sunny between the sunny spells in between the showers, particularly showers, but particularly towards north and west towards the north and west of the those showers could the uk. Those showers could be quite times and there quite heavy at times and there may thunder may be some rumbles of thunder mixed as well. Temperatures mixed in as well. Temperatures are be down a little are going to be down a little bit compared to recently. Its to going feel quite fresh at times, those times, especially in those brisk, winds. Through brisk, blustery winds. Through the of the day. Well the end of the day. Well continue see some showers, continue to see some showers, particularly northern and particularly across northern and western some skies western parts. Some clear skies developing east and in developing down the east and in the well. Well, the south as well. Well, meanwhile, through meanwhile, as we go through the night, see night, we are going to see a swathe of wet weather pushing its way in from the west, affecting many parts of scotland. Likely scotland. Some heavy rain likely here. Going scotland. Some heavy rain likely hedrop going scotland. Some heavy rain likely hedrop huge going scotland. Some heavy rain likely hedrop huge amount going scotland. Some heavy rain likely hedrop huge amount forjoing scotland. Some heavy rain likely he drop huge amount for many to drop a huge amount for many towns some to drop a huge amount for many townsspots some to drop a huge amount for many townsspots towards some to drop a huge amount for many townsspots towards the some to drop a huge amount for many townsspots towards the east me rural spots towards the east where we get the clear skies could turn a little chilly. So wednesday, then a bit of a north south a fairly wet south split, a fairly wet picture many parts picture across many parts of scotland. Cloudy. The rain scotland. Quite cloudy. The rain will heavy will be heavy very good afternoon. Its 12 very good afternoon. Its 12 noon. Youre with the live desk here on gb news. And coming up this tuesday lunchtime, gb news sits down with the Prime Minister. Editor, our political editor, Christopher Hope asks rishi sunak question you want sunak the question ones you want answering. The answering. Well bring you the full here on the