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Tweet us or text us at. Gb views. Well, lets have a look at the scene in croydon in south london yesterday morning. And london yesterday morning. And yes , a yes, but what happened . Yes, a yes, but what happened . Oh, sorry. Stop, somebody got stabbed. Yeah. Yeah. Just now. Just yeah. Yeah. Just now. Just now. A school girl . Yeah now. A school girl . Yeah school boy stuff. Well a 15 school boy stuff. Well a 15 Year Old Girl had been stabbed to death with whats thought to have been a machete, making her way to school , named locally as way to school, named locally as euana. Eliana. Witnesses say she just got off the bus with a group of friends when she was attacked. Well, bus driver and other well, the bus driver and other passers tried to save her. Passers by tried to save her. Its believed there had been an argument with boy whod argument with the boy whod tried a girl or her tried to give a girl or her friend some flowers. Friend some flowers. Now, this lad was 17 years of age. Hes believed to be known to the victim and was arrested shortly after she died. She has been described as very comedic with a Bright Future ahead of her. Well, chief superintendent andy britton appealed for those with information to come fonnard. This is every parents Worst Nightmare. Worst nightmare. And i know the officers who responded this morning along with our Emergency Service colleagues, are devastated at the victims death. This is an the victims death. This is an emotion i share , and i know emotion i share, and i know people across croydon will be feeling the same. The victims family has been informed and our thoughts are with them at what must be an incredibly difficult time. Time. Well, we know this isnt just a one off tragic stabbing. It is every parents nightmare as the police have said. And over the years, knife crime has taken many young lives without any sign of the issue being resolved. Fatal stabbings in england and wales remain at record highs as knife crime grips the nation. Grips the nation. Question is, is this britains version of gun crime as it is in the usa . Throughout the morning , as it is in the usa . Throughout the morning, were going to investigate why young people still carry knives. How they get hold of them, and what can be done to protect them. Done to protect them. Well, lets speak to former metropolitan Police Detective Peter Bleksley. And at the end of the day, the tragedy in all of the day, the tragedy in all of this is we are talking about children. And when we talk about teenagers deaths in the capital alone, this is the 16th death. At what point what will it take for to us get a grip of this . Its such a tragedy. And yet again, i find myself talking about one of these savage acts that has ended a young life before. It had really begun. The before. It had really begun. The poor girl hadnt even taken her gcses. Well all knife crime is at epidemic proportions. There are so far this year up until august. So in the 12 months up until august, there had been 211 knife crime incidents with injury. In croydon alone. And injury. In croydon alone. And that only makes it the 10th most prevalent borough in london. So theres nine boroughs worse than croydon. There are too many knives, there are too many stabbings, there are too many deaths. So what do we do about it . Well, the police need to be very robust in stop and search. I know thats going to anger certain people. Quite frankly, im not bothered. They need to be on the streets proactive with justification, of course. Justification, of course. Politely, robustly , firmly politely, robustly, firmly stopping and searching people to act as a deterrent. And then act as a deterrent. And then when people are captured with knives, the courts need to support that work by handing down suitable punitive punishments. Punishments. Yeah, obviously so much you said there, which rings home, peter. The punishments , peter. The punishments, obviously the consequences arent arent strong enough. But you said you dont care about people being stopped and searched. But thats not the political view on a lot of this. And that wont that wont stop as a result. Horrific to and that wont that wont stop as a result. Horrific to think that croydon has got a knife problem in particular, but is only the 10th worst borough in in london for it. So i mean, when we think about it, what is a 17 year old doing with a foot long bladed knife or weapon . Weapon is exactly what it is in their bag at 830 in the morning on their way to school. What is that all about, peter . A source contacted me last night who works in a school in croydon and said that kids are coming to school with knives, but what they do is they stash them in the bushes and other hiding places close to the school so they dont take the weapons in the school. And yet when the school day is finished, they go and retrieve their knives. Now, some young people foolishly believe that they need to carry a knife for their own protection. And there is an protection. And there is an element of peer pressure involved in this. If their friends are carrying, they feel they should be carrying. But the statistic sticks clearly show that if you take a knife onto the streets, you are in fact more likely to become a victim of knife crime, not less likely. But these messages are clearly not being heard. Im sure many of the reasons are complex , of the reasons are complex, perhaps absent parenting , bad perhaps absent parenting, bad parenting. So Socio Economic factors and many more things like that. But the police are not social workers. Im a former Police Officer. I want to see Police Officer. I want to see Police Officers on the streets stopping and searching people and hopefully finding knives, removing them and arresting people. I want to know how they get on the streets in the first place. It seems far too easy for young people to get their hands on these sorts of weapons. Were talking about machetes and all sorts of horrendous double edged blades. Does the law blades. You know, does the law need tightening in all of this . Is that the police is there more that the police can in policing this can do in policing this particular area . The law was tightened a couple of years ago and only a couple of years ago and only a couple of years ago and only a couple of weeks ago. The couple of weeks ago. The government have announced further measures that are going to be implemented through parliament with regards to the sale of long bladed knives, often called zombie knives, machete and the like. Well that may help a bit, but but you can go onto the internet, go to the dark web and sadly buy almost anything you want these days. So despite these legislative changes and laws being passed , changes and laws being passed, it is not translating to a lack of a reduction in the amount of knives on the streets. And its knives on the streets. And its not equating to a reduction in the bloodshed. There is a tide the bloodshed. There is a tide of teenage blood flowing through the streets of london and some of our other capital cities. We need robust action from Law Enforcement to try and reduce this and its fascinating. Youre telling us the techniques that that people who attend school use hiding the blades before they actually get into the classroom. Because i thought , into the classroom. Because i thought, right, well, you solve this by putting up a metal detector, a scanner, something before they go into school that they have to pass through this. But obviously to no avail. Theyve thought of that already i they absolutely. So theyve they absolutely. So theyve stashed their blade and they retrieve it the minute they come out of school. And thereafter , out of school. And thereafter, perhaps they get on buses , they perhaps they get on buses, they walk, they cycle. However they get to and from school. But they are armed with knives. And of course, what is going to happen in any type of confrontational situation is a knife will be drawn. Lets just think about drawn. Lets just think about that stat i mentioned earlier, if we may. So that stat i mentioned earlier, if we may. So in that stat i mentioned earlier, if we may. So in the that stat i mentioned earlier, if we may. So in the year to august of this year, 211 reported knife crime incidents with injury , how many incidents with injury, how many incidents were not reported to the police . Many more, i would suggest. Where people involved in gang behaviour perhaps got stabbed and then went off to hospital to get themselves fixed without reporting it to any Police Officer. We simply dont know. But what we do know is that the statistic sticks are unacceptable. Children, adults , unacceptable. Children, adults, teenagers, people are dying in numbers. That teenagers, people are dying in numbers. That is teenagers, people are dying in numbers. That is just off the numbers. That is just off the Richter Scale and something robust has to be done by the police. I robust has to be done by the police. I dont robust has to be done by the police. I dont want robust has to be done by the police. I dont want our robust has to be done by the police. I dont want our police police. I dont want our police doing social work. I dont want our police doing what they so often Call Community engagement. Theres two communities they need to engage with. Number one, victims of crime. And number two, perpetrators of crime. Lets get that Territorial Support Group down at croydon today. Lets get them on the streets. Lets get them when there is cause when there is justification. Stopping and searching people and lets get them retrieving knives and arresting people. Okay. Well, theres Peter Bleksley. Hes a former police bleksley. Hes a former Police Detective laying it out straight there. Listeners and viewers, there. Listeners and viewers, stop and search a controversial tactic. But why should it be . Is tactic. But why should it be . Is it is it counter productive . What do you think . Get in touch what do you think . Get in touch with us today. Let us know your views. Well reflect those throughout the programme. Gb news at tbs. Com. Give me that again. Gbviews gbnews. Com. Gbviews gbnews. Com. Simple when you see it in front of you there. Gb views. Gb news. Com front of you there. Gb views. Gbnews. Com or you can tweet at gbnews. Com or you can tweet at gb news as well. Peter really appreciate your take. Peter just laying it out straight there. Laying it out straight there. Hes saying get over the sensitive city of stop and search. Is he right . Is he wrong . Let us know. Wrong . Let us know. To our exclusive interview now with the manchester mayor, andy burnham. He told our andy burnham. He told our Political Editor, Christopher Hope he doesnt want a ulez style charging zone in his city. He wants the government to look at schemes such as more electric buses. And hes created electric buses. And hes created what is called the b network, the b, the symbol of manchester and it would be an integrated london style transport system with simplified and integrated fares. If youre in london, you will know what all that means. But thats what hes trying to create for the Greater Manchester area. Heres what he had to say. Had to say. Youre doing here. Youre creating this new network to connect trams and buses and make it seamless for it much more seamless for travellers. Exactly. So were putting buses back under public control so that then we can link the bus fare system to the tram fare system. Tap in, tap out fare system. A tap in, tap out system. Weve already cut the cost of public transport in Greater Manchester by 20 to mark the arrival of the b network. Now today people can network. So now today people can get tickets that are combined bus and tram tickets that are 20 cheaper than what they would have been before the b network. The thing about moving to a system under public control like the b network is fine. Finally, the b network is fine. Finally, after 40 years of routes being cut, fares are going up. Cut, fares are going up. Finally, the people of Greater Manchester and now the bosses of the buses, its the other way round. Okay, can you pay in cash on the bus network . You can. Its very important to have campaign. Im aware and you know, we have conversations. Have conversations. So that will stay. That will stay. Stay. There are cash trays on the new electric buses. Weve a new electric buses. Can i just say to gb news built in britain . To gb news built in britain . Yeah, built in britain in scotland, 50 new buses went onto the roads of wigan and bolton in the roads of wigan and bolton in the last 2 or 3 days, built in, built in scotland. I think thats a great story, isnt it . And i think one of my appeals to the government is kind of, okay, well give you credit for helping us do this. So lets have more of it, because actually , really, it wont just actually, really, it wont just help people in a cost of living crisis. It could also so help us with our clean air. Youll cut emissions enough with your new or 50 new electric buses, 50 more coming and the rest of it that will that will mean you dont need to do any kind of ulez on here. Well its not quite as simple as that. But let me explain this really clearly. We are confident and that the evidence backs this up, if we were to if the up, that if we were to if the government was to back the b network, help us bring more network, i. E. Help us bring more electric buses into Service Across the city region, but if it was also to back us with investment to help our our taxis improve our hackney cabs upgrade, we believe we can do it via an investment led approach rather than a charging based approach. Can we now then agree approach. Can we now then agree that a clean air zone is not right for Greater Manchester . A charging zone . Prime minister, charging zone . Prime minister, you can come here this weekend. You can back the b network with the investment that it needs. You can back the taxi industry with the investment which it needs. With the investment which it needs. You could have an needs. And you could have an example saying this is how example of saying this is how you get zero, but in a you get to net zero, but in a fairer way for the public. Greater manchester your opportunity. Not or never then, is its not or never then, is it . I mean, how much money do you need from the government not to bring here . To bring ulez here . Wont have one. I, no, i wont have one. I, i said when i came in as mayor that i wouldnt have a congestion charge. And, and ive also saying i wouldnt have a charging air why is charging clean air zone. Why is why . Mean, when we why . Because, i mean, when we first developed the clean air zone it meant to be zone idea, it was meant to be enough money in the system to help upgrade help everybody upgrade their vehicles. The vehicles. And then with the pandemic, cost vehicles pandemic, the cost of vehicles spiralled and hence there was the backlash, which was understood and justified. And why gm is now in a in a different position. We are saying that you can do this in a different way. As long as im there. No, i will not have a charging zone either a congestion charge scheme or a clean air style scheme. The reason being that the north of england has never had the investment in transport to allow some people to live without their car. No interested in some of the things andy burnham had to say there. And the thing that struck me, isabel, was that he was saying, right, we need buses, we need electric built in need electric buses built in britain and i know a lot of buses are built in ballymena, in in Northern Ireland. Alexander buses and wherever else. It always never ceases to amaze me that, you know, we go out and we buy french trains and chinese buses and goodness knows what at 7 20 this morning we are having a debate. What responsibility, what onus is there on our shoulders to help ourselves by buying british people may laugh at it. People may mock at it. Sometimes you look and you think, what is the advantage . Just buy british, create british jobs , stimulate the british jobs, stimulate the british economy as a result of it. So andy burnham is saying he wants electric buses for Greater Manchester, but he wants them built in britain. Give us your views on that. 7 20. Should you try to buy british . And lets get some analysis in all of the stuff that andy burnham was saying there from our deputy Political Editor, tom hannood. To you, hannood. Good morning to you, tom. Little bit later on this tom. A little bit later on this morning, well be hearing from the government about an investment £80 into investment of £80 million into bus networks across the country. As andy burnham not aware of this investment or will he benefit from that . I mean, it seems that the two things arent joined up at the moment. It seems like that. But clearly andy burnham is wanting more cash. Hes been a very successful mayor by some metrics in Greater Manchester. And if were to compare jonathan sadiq khan and andy burnham as two labour mayors , its interesting labour mayors, its interesting to see their record of delivery. Perhaps its no wonder that andy burnham won re election in 2021 with 67 of the votes whereby and down in london, sadiq khan just scraped through in the same year having to go to sort of transfer votes to get over the line. Its interesting that andy line. Its interesting that andy burnham is sort of talking up his system of listening to the people of Greater Manchester, although it was slightly interesting to hear him skate over the fact that he had himself proposed a clear, clear air zone back in 2021. It wasnt until february last year that andy burnham u turned on that charging zone to bring in polluting cars in and around manchester. But i suppose that does show a difference in approach between andy burnham and sadiq khan. Sadiq khan, of and sadiq khan. Sadiq khan, of course, pushing ahead with ulez now expanded to the whole of Greater London and charging people £12, £0. 50 a day. Andy burnham having u turned on a similar plan in Greater Manchester and trying to achieve clean air through greater investment. Although as he was saying to Christopher Hope in that clip , for that to work, it that clip, for that to work, it does require more investment. He will be going cap in hand to the government for even more money. Thank you, tom. Appreciate it. The time now, 18 minutes and 19 minutes now past six. Lets bnng 19 minutes now past six. Lets bring you up to date with the headunes bring you up to date with the headlines as a 15 Year Old Girl who was stabbed to death on her way to school has been described as being comedic with a Bright Future. The 17 year old boy has been arrested and were going to hear from the government about how they plan to get more of you to ditch your cars in favour of pubuc ditch your cars in favour of public transport. Thats coming up at a quarter to seven. And a new survey suggests the majority of people believe manufactured thing is hugely important to the of our important to the future of our economy. Well be debating economy. So well be debating should we be only buying british . Thats at. 7 20 you british . Thats at. 7 20 you know, i think once you say should we only be buying british, thats not its hard. Its really hard. I dont think that is expensive. I think the argument expensive. I think the argument is , should we be buying more is, should we be buying more British Goods, not exclusively British Goods, not exclusively British Goods . I think it should be. You know, a lot of people go and do the traffic light thing of, you know, what are the calories in this . Whats the cost of this . Whats the origin this . It whats the origin of this . It should be part of sort should also be part of our sort of purchasing decision making. We do it with food. You know, is it whatever it british, farmed, whatever for. When i go for. But, you know, when i go and buy clothes, i actually look at label see its at the label to see where its made and i try where cost allows not to buy particularly from china. Trying to china. And ive been trying to do that pretty much since the pandemic. Easy to do. Pandemic. Its not easy to do. No. No. And thats why dont you beat yourself about more yourself up about spending more money clothes and expensive money on clothes and expensive clothes or whatever, because at least the chinese arent getting the of. The benefit of. Exactly. Exactly. Thats exactly. Thats a great way to settle it. But i do when i think about it, i suppose i distinctly try to buy my stuff that supports the Northern Irish economy. Yes. Yes. Yes. Linen ulster cheddar , you linen ulster cheddar, you know, you know, foodstuffs. Am i right . In thinking cotton is a big thing . No. Lennon linen cottons, america . America wool . No. Ulster no. Ulster but im just saying if again, if i get it, if i get it, if i get a chance to do to do that, i will actively do that. But i just dont think big business cares. They just care about the bottom line. They will import it, especially if youre doing your amazons online. You amazons or your online. You know, provenance of know, next day provenance of those things pretty much always the cheapest and the cheapest is pretty other pretty much always the other side the world. Side of the world. So youre saying its perhaps not possible . You may have the intention, its not possible i well, its not impossible, but the easiest but its not always the easiest or cheapest. Or the cheapest. Should be trying harder, should we be trying harder, then . Thats wed then . Thats what wed be saying. On thats an saying. 7 20 on that. Thats an r nine. Thats incredible. R from nine. Thats incredible. Some broiled stuff. The princess of wales yeah. The princess of wales has spent with children has spent time with children with educational and with Educational Needs and disabilities to highlight the importance Early Childhood development. So shes trying to highlight that service ses are stretched and more families require help in this area right across the country. Our royal correspondent Cameron Walker reports. At the start of a new drive by princess catherine to shine a spotlight light on how childrens futures could be impact acted. You can really see that she wants change, i think, and its really refreshing to see somebody come in and show that interest and want to see that change. So for us in early years, i think its really exciting. The princess of wales launched her centre for Early Childhood in 2021, driving awareness and action on the impact the first years of life has on our futures in kent. Yesterday, the future queen visited a service supporting Young Children with special Education Needs and disabilities. Portage, which is available across england and wales through local authorities , also helps local authorities, also helps parents and carers to cope. Emilys daughter, beatrice , was emilys daughter, beatrice, was developing more slowly than other children when we first came about with portage , she was came about with portage, she was almost mute, wasnt speaking and her swallow was really poor. She wasnt able to interact with other children or be in rooms with this amount of people. So to do all this today, people. Soto do all this today, its a huge step. The princess met children , the princess met children, parents and carers, but hers. Not everyone has enough time or money to nurture a child with complex needs. Charlottes beer is a portage practitioner and agrees with princess catherine that early support is crucial. It can be quite ovennhelming for families. Families. You know, youre going through lots of processes, lots of emotion , theres lots to take of emotion, theres lots to take in. But i think its really important to remember that these years are crucial and to get all of this support in now really makes that difference. And ultimately , were all here ultimately, were all here working together, trying to working together, just trying to make children make sure that those children are but sadly, in some areas , but sadly, in some areas, support doesnt stretch far enough. Support doesnt stretch far enough. A backlog the enough. A backlog from the pandemic and more children who need extra support that have created challenges nationwide side. Heres Janet Rickman , side. Heres Janet Rickman, chair of the national portage association. Association. Theres certainly been an increase in in the numbers of children that are referred to us. Sadly, in some areas us. And sadly, in some areas theres the number theres a decrease in the number of practitioners. Of practitioners. Princess launched princess catherine launched a campaign shaping us this year, spotlighting the first five years of a childs life and how crucial developments can be crucial good developments can be for their futures. Todays visit is expected to be the first of many in the run up to christmas, focusing on children and their families. Cameron walker gb news in kent. In kent. You can say what you like about the royals. You can always rely on them to be doing something worthwhile, to be making us think about important issues, to getting out there issues, to be getting out there and know, i really celebrate and you know, i really celebrate the princess of wales going out doing solo engagements and doing more solo engagements and shining light on really shining a light on really important shining a light on really importeworried about williams im worried about williams target, this homelessness, to eradicate homelessness. I dont think its possible. Other countries have managed it. Was it sweden or i cant remember. I think somewhere in scandinavia. But but the thing is. But i look around, i just see more and more people homeless. More and more people homeless. More and more people homeless. More and more people sleeping on the streets and. But good luck to them. Absolutely. Good luck. Good luck. I also think know become immune to homelessness a little bit, especially in the capital. You more more of it. And you see more and more of it. And having children in every time were a high street were walking down a high street in begging in the summer with a begging bowl, whatever, people might bowl, whatever, and people might shuffle along and not look and your force to your children force you to acknowledge my children acknowledge it. And my children sort mommy, earth sort of say, mommy, why on earth why must we went into why cant they must we went into the supermarket to buy the supermarket recently to buy food someone because my food for someone because my son insisted. And, know, you insisted. And, you know, you have the world through insisted. And, you know, you hav eyes the world through insisted. And, you know, you hav eyes of the world through insisted. And, you know, you hav eyes of children. D through insisted. And, you know, you hav eyes of children sometimes the eyes of children sometimes so much simpler. Whats right and whats wrong. And we shouldnt indeed and whats wrong. And we shouldr sleeping indeed and whats wrong. And we shouldrsleeping on indeed and whats wrong. And we shouldrsleeping on the ndeed and whats wrong. And we shouldrsleeping on the streets anyone sleeping on the streets when young, there used when we were young, there used to in doonnays and in to be people in doonnays and in belfast and as kids we would go, ooh and skip past it and whatever it is , my dad would whatever it is, my dad would grab us and say , right, you grab us and say, right, you dont know what that mans story is. You have no idea. And then he would give his thruppence or sixpence would say, now go and give him that. Sixpence would say, now go and give him that. And we made give him that. And we were made to go back and say, sorry, i hope this is of use to you or whatever it is. And that awareness, as you say , if you awareness, as you say, if you start that when youre child , start that when youre a child, carries you through. And thats why i wish id met your leonard i your dad, leonard holmes. I think would have liked him think i would have liked him very much. Hes very charitable man. Hes a very charitable man. Hes a very charitable man. Was moral and now agnes. Agnes. Did get affected agnes. Did you get affected by agnes . Weve talked about it know . Weve talked about it all week. It was a of a damp squib, it was a bit of a damp squib, but, you know, thats a good thing for us here in the south east. Im not sure how it east. But im not sure how it was the rest of the. Well, know you know, well, i know you know, central northern central ireland, Northern Ireland, england, ireland, north west of england, going up into scotland. Certainly very, very it was certainly very, very blustery. What are blustery. Yes today. What are the remnants that . I think blustery. Yes today. What are the remaynts that . I think blustery. Yes today. What are the remay be that . I think blustery. Yes today. What are the remay be a that . I think blustery. Yes today. What are the remay be a bitat . I think blustery. Yes today. What are the remay be a bit still think blustery. Yes today. What are the re may be a bit still leftk there may be a bit still left oven there may be a bit still left over. And lets go to Jonathan Vautrey. Hello there. Very good morning to you. Im Jonathan Vautrey. Who is your gb news . Weather forecast provided by the met office after providing some of a windy day of us with quite a windy day yesterday, storm agnes is now clearing its way towards the clearing its way off towards the north, isobars are north, but those isobars are still spaced still quite tightly spaced together, going to together, so its still going to be breezy , blustery day be a fairly breezy, blustery day for majority the rain for the majority of us. The rain across far north slowly across the far north slowly easing for good chunk easing off and for a good chunk of there will be some dry of us, there will be some dry intervals to be had. A fair amount cloud around, though. Amount of cloud around, though. So any sunshine probably on the hazier temperatures hazier side, temperatures perhaps compared to perhaps down a touch compared to yesterday generally around 17 yesterday, generally around 17 to but thats pretty much to 19 c. But thats pretty much where we should be for this time in the year as we head into the Late Afternoon and evening, well start to see this area of rain push its way in from the west. Some heavy pulses for parts ireland, parts of Northern Ireland, western to western scotland, maybe even to wales Western Areas wales and Western Areas of england or gradually england as well, or gradually shifting its eastwards shifting its way eastwards throughout behind throughout the night. Behind that, see some clearer that, we do see some clearer intervals developing with that, we do see some clearer interv showers. Oping with that, we do see some clearer interv showers persisting with that, we do see some clearer interv showers persisting across some showers persisting across the north west those the far north west where those clearer occur, clearer intervals do occur, temperatures drop that temperatures will just drop that down bit more, 10 or down slightly, a bit more, 10 or 11 c, but a milder start across the southeast as this rain gradually its way off. Gradually clears its way off. But for much of england and wales, will be some wales, there will be some sunshine be had throughout sunshine to be had throughout the pleasant. The day and relatively pleasant. Some showers though, persisting the day and relatively pleasant. Sornorthernrs though, persisting the day and relatively pleasant. SorNorthern Ireland. Gh, persisting the day and relatively pleasant. SorNorthern Ireland. Scotlanditing for Northern Ireland. Scotland might fringe down into the north west england as well. North west of england as well. Temperatures still 16, temperatures here still 16, 17 c. But in the more sunshine across southern areas of england, temperatures back up to 21 c. England, temperatures back up to mcmw england, temperatures back up to 21 c. High pressure holds on into saturday, but there is further areas of rain as we head into sunday. By by, by, by. Jonathan, thank you very much indeed. Jonathan, thank you very much indeed. And by by agnes as well i yes. And hello to paul coyte. After the break, youll have all the latest on how newcastle have ruined pep guardiolas week. Ruined pep guardiolas week. Well see in a sec but at the time at half past six, well look at some of the other top stories of the morning. Gb news has formally apologised to the journalist ava evans for a series of derogatory and unacceptable comments made by the gb news presenter laurence fox on this channel. He was being interviewed by another gb news host, dan wootton. Both presenters have been suspended and immediately taken off air and immediately taken off air and gb news says its conducting and gb news says its conducting a full investigation. While the a full investigation. While the media watchdog ofcom has received complaints and is also investigating , ms evans has said investigating, ms evans has said the comments made her feel disgusting and vile but welcomed the apology from the channel. Dan wootton is also apologised personally, saying he regretted the interview and should have intervened. Intervened. Labour says it is no longer planning to end the charitable status for private schools , but status for private schools, but will still remove other what they term unfair tax breaks if it gets into number 10. Prime minister rishi sunak has accused sir keir starmer of attacking the hard working aspirations of millions of people and storm agnes has swept across large parts of england with heavy rains and strong winds. The National Grid says its been dealing with Power Outages at hundreds of properties, but many had been reconnected last night as the winds subsided. And night as the winds subsided. And here comes the sport and here comes paul coyte with it. So it was i think theyre all down to the last 16 now in the carabao cup. Yes. So how did it carabao cup. Yes. So how did it shape up last . Ill tell you how its shaping up. And thats manchester united. Your side are going be the holders rerun going to be the holders rerun the respectful the holder holders, respectful holders , a rerun of last years holders, a rerun of last years final in the next round because newcastle managed to get past Manchester City yesterday. They Manchester City yesterday. They started i mean again in the started off i mean again in the usual thing, carabao cup is its customary that everybody wants to make newcastle made to make changes. Newcastle made ten changes, Manchester City made seven in, although it was all Manchester City in the first half and then newcastle, well it was like eddie howe said something and said, you know, get amongst them, which is what they did, and then ended up winning game. Nil fully winning the game. One nil fully deserved. So newcastle have beaten city, beaten Manchester City, liverpool, get beaten Manchester City, live bus |l, get beaten Manchester City, live bus home, get beaten Manchester City, live bus home, they get beaten Manchester City, live bus home, they had get beaten Manchester City, live bus home, they had to get the bus home, they had to get the bus home, they had to get the bus home, they had to get the bus home. Yeah, it was the and yeah, it was the moan and groan. Awful. And you know what they awful. And you know what they had to do is as theyre going through the expensive areas, they the bell they have to hit the bell for they have to hit the bell for the to as well to drop the bus to stop as well to drop them off, get off tough. Its tough to be in a premier league football. I should mention liverpool, they leicester liverpool, they beat leicester 3 1 villa who beat 3 1 aston villa who beat brentford weekend. Know brentford at the weekend. I know everton at everton who beat brentford at the aston villa, the weekend, beat aston villa, so turn around so maybe itll turn around for everton now arsenal beat everton now and arsenal beat brentford 1 0 and chelsea also how about this the first goal theyve scored in goodness knows how long they won 1 0 as well yesterday who did they beat. Ah they brighton. They beat brighton. Oh pretty good. Thats a good one. I know it is a good one. But again, situation of how many changes does it really count . Its the premier league. Thats when were to see. Its the premier league. Thats wh no, ere to see. Its the premier league. Thats wh no, no, to see. Its the premier league. Thats wh no, no, theresto see. Its the premier league. Thats wh no, no, theres not. E. No, no, theres not. No, no, theres not. One of those teams that you mentioned who would not want to go the whole in the carabao go the whole way in the carabao cup what dont get. Cup is what i dont get. Yeah, theres three. Yeah, theres three. Three possible. Theres three possible. Theres three possible. Imagine a villa villa can you imagine a villa villa win you know, liverpool win that you know, liverpool would still want to look chelsea would still want to look chelsea would to it. Would want to win it. More chance of you stand more chance of winning cup. Winning the carabao cup. The premier out of reach premier league is out of reach to pretty much everybody apart from Manchester City. And. And thats unless thats probably it. Unless theres obvious couple that theres the obvious couple that could get around their fa cup is possible, why go for possible, so why not go for that . Players and that . Thats what players and thats what supporters what supporters want to want supporters want to win want to go wembley. Anyway go to wembley. Yeah so anyway you know its always going to be that saudi i want to that way. Saudi i want to mention thats going mention something thats going on saudi arabia as well. So on in saudi arabia as well. So theyve lured, lured all the this top talent over spent nearly £1 billion on getting players now theyre looking at referees so theyre now looking at referees. Theyve got new zealand referees, argentinian referees referees. Referees, paraguayan referees. So the idea is theres no point having top players and teams being upgraded without having top officials. Exactly right. So top officials. Exactly right. So theyre to going try and do that money. I mean, what sort of money. I mean, what sort of money do you reckon a referee referee earns here in the premier . I would imagine here in the premier league a ref would probably get about £500 a night , only working year salaries , only working year salaries, 100, 100 grand, about 100, two, three. Well, its more than that. So about 100 to 300,000 a year. Top referees will earn. So its not bad money, is it, to be a top referee. But if thats not bad money, can you imagine what theyre going to spend over in saudi arabia . So theyre going to say, well, well weve got as much want. How much do much as you want. How much do you want . So then thats what theyre trying to lure. Im still for sports still waiting for sports presenters up presenters that hasnt come up yet any presenter, any yet or any presenter, any any presenters. Presenters. But referee does a lot of running. Yes , theres a lot of confrontation. But they they just never stop. I mean, as a player, you can stop and catch your breath , can stop and catch your breath, but referees cant do that. Absolutely. Always backwards and and the thing is and fonnards. And the thing is with referees its getting with referees and its getting the referees involved the young referees involved because othennise theyre like you and me. Yeah, theyre all huffing and puffing. Well, all i do huff and puff and i just get a yellow card out and i just get a yellow card out and thats it. Off you go, and go, thats it. Off you go, off you go. Thered be nobody left. Theres, theres off you go. Thered be nobody left. You eres, theres off you go. Thered be nobody left. You know, heres off you go. Thered be nobody left. You know, to res off you go. Thered be nobody left. You know, to get kids young, you know, to get kids involved you know, its involved in this, you know, its a task. Involved in this, you know, its a task if involved in this, you know, its a task. If you see on a thankless task. If you see on a thankless task. If you see on a sunday and you see the trouble that referees face that we were talking about, Jermaine Jenas just whereas just the other day, whereas jermaine tweeted something Jermaine Jenas tweeted something about the referee against arsenal, he called arsenal, you know, and he called him else. And was him something else. And he was the was fronting up a the one that was fronting up a campaign a few Months Campaign just a few months before about referees that before about referees and that weve got respect them. We weve got to respect them. We have respect the referee. Have to respect the referee. Its an interesting yeah, but its an interesting point. Would to be a point. Who would want to be a referee . Yeah, for much referee . Yeah, well, for much a year much a year . Well, year or much a year . Well, hundreds grand. Hundreds or 300 grand. Yeah. Okay. Yeah. Okay. Yeah, thats my. Thats. Yeah, thats my. Thats. Yeah, thats my. I might be all right. See you again in an hours time. See a yellow card . This is yellow. Yes. Yes. Its not a red. Yes. Its not a red. Yes. Yeah, yeah. Time wasting. Yeah waste. Right. Waste. Right. The time is 636. Thanks to paul the time is 636. Thanks to paul. This is breakfast on gb news with eamonn and isabel. And heres a reminder your top stories. Every parents nightmare for a community and a school a Family Community and a school in south london are grieving the loss of a 15 Year Old Girl who was stabbed to death in her uniform. 73 year old boy has been arrested. Former met Police Officer told this program, stop and search is the only answer. And search is the only answer. In an exclusive interview with gb news, the mayor of manchester, andy burnham, told us he wants to clean up Greater Manchesters air without a ulez style charging zone. Style charging zone. Finally , after 40 years of finally, after 40 years of routes being cut , fares going routes being cut, fares going up. Finally, the people of Greater Manchester and now the bosses of the buses. Its the other way around. Other way around. And still to come, an unwelcome visitor at a picnic. Unwelcome visitor at a picnic. This bear was in mexico and it decided to join the family at a meal. They decided really not to stop, but not to bother. Well, more than that, look at that mothering. Yes. I mean, shes holding her son, not only keeping him still, but shielding his eyes. That a fantastic parent. That is a fantastic parent. Well, i see a few times the bear gets close to them and starts. And you think, does it fancy a little bit of them or not . With friends like that, who needs enemies . Your friends just standing there filming yeah. Standing there filming it. Yeah. How about helping mate . How about helping out, mate . Do you do, isabel . What do you do, isabel . What do you do, isabel . Well, apparently you say she. He put the camera down and he did put the camera down and chucked off in the chucked some food off in the distance in the hope that the bear would and did. Bear would chase it. And it did. And oh, thats the bit there that goes. And if youre listening on the radio, all of this is accessible via our app and online, and its well worth watching because might look watching because it might look like watching because it might look uke bean watching because it might look like bear, but it looks like a cuddly bear, but it looks like a cuddly bear, but it looks like a cuddly bear, but it looks like a pretty unwelcome lunch. Guest headline makers come in with freddie grant emma burnell. Were talking about that and much more as well. My daughter much more as well. My daughter rebecca has been scarred for life not by bears, but by monkeys and we were at a safari park once and we had a you know, a glass sunroof and basically the monkeys sat on the roof of the monkeys sat on the roof of the car and they peed. They peed the car and they peed. They peed 2 or 3 of them. So all of it. But she she became terrified. She was 27 at the time. No, she wasnt. She was she was about five at the time. And thats led to an aversion with her and monkeys. Monkeys. The monkeys, especially monkeys with pink bottoms. You know,. Those sort of monkeys. Baboons. Baboons. Yeah baboons. Yeah i reckon this child and this mother will have an aversion to bears after that. So i have an aversion to mice i do you. Did i not tell you why . Yeah scarred for life. Scarred for life. I was. Thats a whole other story. After this weve got freddie grey and weve got emma burnell. Theyve got the newspapers in front of them and today and guys , you them and today and guys, you know, most of them lead on this awful knifing in croydon yesterday morning. And the death yesterday morning. And the death of this schoolgirl. But freddie, of this schoolgirl. But freddie, were going to look, we begin with the sun and basically what you want to highlight is that they take different approaches to how theyre covering this. Yes. It is interesting to see the way that different papers cover a story as shocking as this. The metro, which is this. The metro, which is obviously a london paper , is obviously a london paper, is more factual machete revenge on buster school, whereas the sun and the mirror look at the more emotional angles. Girl knifed to emotional angles. Girl knifed to death for saving a pal is the sun headline and every parents nightmare is the mirrors and i think the for me, the most evocative one is the sun. Because you have this the picture of the flowers we think these are the flowers that the boy who ended up killing this girl gave to her. Allegedly. So we if we allegedly. So if we if we look the photograph of the look at the photograph of the front of the sun, its thats the forensic officer there in their scrubs is holding a sort of test tube with a blood splattered rose in it. And for me, that that is the picture of this tragic story. It is. I mean, i think that it is. I mean, i think that is it. And i think the reason why this story is so shocking is because of this sort of boy and girl element to it. And because of this sort of boy and girl element to it. And i suppose the good news is that this is extremely rare because most there is a problem with knife crime on buses in london, andits knife crime on buses in london, and its very bad at the moment , but that tends to be gang related. And this is just a thwarted seems to be allegedly is a boy who is whose affections have been thwarted and has gone mad and all happening at half past eight in the morning. Yeah emma i mean , this is the yeah emma i mean, this is the tragedy , isnt it . Tragedy, isnt it . I mean, theres just so many tragic elements to this. Its hard to pick different parts out. And you obviously were here to do analysis of the news, but its, you know, your first thought always is just your heart goes out to everybody involved. And you know, that involved. And you know, that that this young lad turned up in the morning with flowers a love note and a foot long knife. And note and a foot long knife. And you just think what has driven someone that young to that extreme an element, but also what drives a teenager. What drives a teenager. You know, when i was 15, i was worried about had i got my homework done, could i copy it from someone else . You know, all from someone else . You know, all the sort of things, where are we going to play football at lunchtime, whatever, or whatever, but someone to have a foot long knife in their in their satchel. Their satchel. I mean, ive been thinking quite a lot about the radicalised version of young men recently. Im writing a play in which thats an element and i think there is a real crisis of boyhood at the moment. But think there is a real crisis of boyhood at the moment. But and i dont in any way wish to empathise with with what this young man has allegedly done at all. But i think theres a wider question about why young men are so disaffirm acted and so distressed and outside of what we consider the normal bounds. And look, teenagers are hormone machines , essentially. They are machines, essentially. They are messed up kids and its a tough, tough old time. Its a tough time for girls. Its a tough time for girls. Its a tough time for girls. Its a tough time for boys. And but i mean , time for boys. And but i mean, we all went through rejection in our teenage years. Me probably more than most, lets face it. But you it used to be that that was part of the learning, the life learning experience. And it toughens you up and you got on with it. And then you find the right person and you you settle down with them. But it just feels like theres something going horribly wrong. Going horribly wrong. And ive been tricked by these zombie knives that they have. And i know its a bit sort of fogeyish and easy to say. Video games are making children violent. Im not sure thats necessarily true, but its certainly these zombie certainly true that these zombie knives were first depicted before were real in video before they were real in video games and now children are buying them online because they played video games where they use these awful double maths , use these awful double maths, double bladed, massive knives. Double bladed, massive knives. And i heard you saying earlier as well, you know, how can we tighten laws to stop children buying these sorts of knives onune . Buying these sorts of knives online . And we should be able to. Well, the government have pledged the issue of pledged to tackle the issue of zombie knives. Well be speaking to government this to the government about this very the rest of the very issue and the rest of the big stories just a moment. Big stories in just a moment. Were take quick were going to take a quick break well hopefully break and well also hopefully be reviewing more papers as 12 minutes before were at 7 00. Thanks for your company this morning. Breakfast on gb news on tv, online and on radio. A reminder of our top stories as a 15 Year Old Girl who was stabbed to death on her way to school has been described as being comedic with a Bright Future. A 17 year old boy has been arrested in an exclusive interview with gb news, the mayor of manchester, andy burnham, tells us how he wants to clean up Greater Manchesters air without a london ulez style, charging zone. And coming up, charging zone. And coming up, a new survey suggests the majority of people believe manufacturing is hugely important to the future of our economy. So well be debating that. Should we be trying to only buy british . Thats at. 7 20 thats at. 7 20 minister. Thats at. 7 20 minister. The roads minister Richard Holden is there too, to join us now. And good morning to you, richard. Good morning, eamonn. How are you . Good. How are you . Good. Were fine. But we were just thinking, were reflecting, richard on this time yesterday , richard on this time yesterday, that 15 Year Old Girl was alive in croydon and getting ready for school, getting ready to take the bus to go to school. And the bus to go to school. And then it all ended the way it ended. Then it all ended the way it ended. And absolutely shocking. Ended. And absolutely shocking. Im sure you would agree. No , i would. Its so tragic. No, i would. Its so tragic. You know, another young life lost to a knife crime. And it is lost to a knife crime. And it is an absolutely shocking case. And theres been a huge amount of work in this space over the last few years. Back in 2016, the government banned zombie knives. In 2019, banned cyclone knives. The Prime Minister has already talked about what we can do more to increase sentencing for people trying to illegally import them. This weve been banned for sale in the uk, so some of these are being smuggled in were going to in illegally. Were going to quadruple sentencing quadruple the minimum sentencing on on those. I just think this is just, though for the for the friends and family of this young lady. Its just a horrendous, horrendous case of violence on our streets. And im glad that the perpetrator has been caught and will face justice. Tragically, though, people will be listening to this and think that the stats are just, frankly, unacceptable. And the government isnt doing enough. And all this weve seen and all of this weve seen a rise in Violent Crime under the conservatives and a reduction in in prosecutions in these kinds of things. This is a 16th teenager for this year to lose their lives from knife crimes in this country. This country. You know, there is a there is a clearly an issue here for, as i said, new legislation has been brought in. Sentences are being strengthened, which is vitally important as well. But overall, i think this is about what us as a society really ensuring that we get across to people, that there is no place for possession of a knife and that, yes, there is no place for possession of a knife and that , yes, the of a knife and that, yes, the government will act with tougher sentencing. Weve got extra police, 20,000 plus now, extra since when . I was elected in 2019. Out on the streets. But we also have to make it so socially unacceptable to carry a knife amongst every single group in society. And its just vital that we really make when we see tragic, really horrendous , tragic, really horrendous, tragic, really horrendous, tragic cases like this one, that we really get that message through to people, particularly to young people right across the country. Do you want to see more stop and search . Im certainly not against that. Weve got there are powers there and local Police Forces can use them when necessary. When there are issues on the ground. We need to get these ground. We need to get these knives off the street. Weve banned them, obviously, from sale in the uk. The zombie knives back in 16 and 2019. We banned the cyclone knives. Were constantly tightening up that regulation and were trying to and were doing everything we can to also increase the sentences for people illegally importing them as well. But this is about making sure also that were if you know, somebody out there with a knife, that you report them to the police or if somebody youre concerned about, we have to stop these knives on the street , its totally its the street, its totally its totally unacceptable. And you can see from this horrendous case, the tragic consequences of people carrying knives in the street. Now, richard , you are now, richard, you are parliamentary under secretary of state for roads and local transport , but weve had a big transport, but weve had a big interview with the mayor of Greater Manchester here this morning, andy burnham , and he morning, andy burnham, and he was talking about an integrated transport policy that he wants to introduce in in manchester. What youre proposing today , what youre proposing today, say, and the aid that youre offering. Bus companies, for offering. Bus companies, for instance , and i dont think is instance, and i dont think is related to that. So explain to us, youve got youve got £80 million to play with whats happening to that money . Well , i was actually up on well, i was actually up on monday with andy in Greater Manchester as part of that £1. 1 billion over five years package thatis billion over five years package that is very specific for Greater Manchester for. The new network. The governments been right behind mayor there right behind the mayor there providing that cash for that transformation bus transformation in the bus network. But today what im talking about is an extra £80 million for local authorities. This is for the next financial yean this is for the next financial year. This is for bus year. This is for that bus support to help them. Weve weve seen a real issue since the pandemic and this is the last tranche of that Financial Support for local authorities for 64 local authorities right across the country. This builds on this is part of the £300 million package we announced earlier this year. These are the specifics of that package for the individual. Local authorities. And but authorities concerned. And but it of a £35 it is actually part of a £35 billion package that weve put fonnard into supporting bus networks since march 2020. And that also includes what weve been doing to try and drive passenger numbers as well. So were trying to protect routes with this money today. Weve also been using the get around for £2 bus fare scheme, which means that single fares across england are £2 only. Thats not the case in wales or scotland. And weve actually seen in england thats seen an over 10 reduction in the average cost of a fare in outside of london in non metropolitan england, which is great news and thats helping to get people, particularly in rural areas, back onto our bus networks. Is this about trying to get cars off the road and if so, why arent you doing more to try and resolve many of the strikes that commuters who want to use public transport having to endure . Transport are having to endure . Because were seeing more and more on the road because more cars on the road because they on public. Transport this is about giving People Choice. I dont want to tell people how they should operate. Thats not where the government are. Our view is that we should ensure that public transport and particularly bus in local areas is that positive alternative. Is that positive alternative. Thats what i want to see us doing. Were not, you know, down doing. Were not, you know, down labours line of trying to ban people or in wales like putting 20 an hour speed limits 20 mile an hour speed limits across the entire country. I across the entire country. I think were in the business of offering a positive alternative. Thats why in places like Greater Manchester, im very happy to work cross party with the labour mayor there. All the money hes getting over £1. 1 billion over five years coming from government. Were from central government. Were working andy working similarly with andy street midlands street in the West Midlands as well deliver too. And well to deliver that too. And then right across the country with things like the get around for and also the for £2 scheme and also the support for bus networks across the country. Its about the country. Its all about ensuring were providing a positive not positive alternative. Im not somebody who wants to around somebody who wants to go around telling people cant do telling people they cant do this, do im this, they cant do that. Im around and this government is about positive about providing positive alternatives to alternatives for people to travel. Well, look, regarding the strikes and its a its a fair question. Whats happened is the governments put fonnard a generous pay offer, a pretty generous pay offer, which that a train which means that for a train driver theyll see their driver there, theyll see their average , which also is average salary, which also is very pension other very generous pension and other benefits alongside it. But their average salary would go from 60,000 to £65,000 a year. I think that whether youre one of my constituents or one of your viewers, theyll think thats a pretty generous offer. What id say to the unions is, please put that offer your membership that offer to your membership up. Lets their view on it. Up. Lets get their view on it. You know, stop blocking them , you know, stop blocking them, having their and actually , i having their say and actually, i think that 65,000 a year plus those very good pension and benefits is a very good for your average train driver. And i and thats before overtime. Okay. I thats before overtime. Okay. I think thats its really important that we that you know this this dispute is resolved and they stop playing politics actually. Actually. Well Richard Holden fascinating talking to you. We feel your enthused chasm. Hes a man whos positive about his his agenda , what he wants to do. We agenda, what he wants to do. We all like all that talk about all that cross Party Business there as well. Well speak again soon sometime. Richard, thank you very much indeed. Thank you. Thank you. Weve got about a minute left to get the thoughts from emma burnell and freddie grey in all of this reaction, first of all, to that of you. I mean, i think its very interesting. Manchester is in the picture because, of course, the picture because, of course, the Tory Party Conference is going to matched on sunday. Going to be matched on sunday. And why theyre and so thats why theyre talking its also talking about it all. Its also worth noting that these strikes do to target mysteriously do seem to target mysteriously the conference the the Tory Party Conference the day after the Tory Party Conference, the day of and day after the Tory Party Conference. I mean, not new. I mean, theyre not new. Theyve going theyve been going on all yean theyve been going on all year. Its like theyre year. So its not like theyre just targeting a tory conference. Thats not true because its actually birmingham actually true that birmingham last it around last year they timed it around around for the tory around birmingham for the tory party theyre party conference. Theyre doing the manchester. Mean, the same in manchester. I mean, people you thats not people that tell you thats not deliberate, are not. Deliberate, i think are are not. Im not saying its not deliberate. Its a good way of lobbying. But im saying that theyre not its not the thing thats happening. I tell you whats happening now, situation, now, the weather situation, Jonathan Vautrey. Jonathan vautrey. Hello there. Very good hello there. Very good morning to you. Im Jonathan Vautrey. Who gb news vautrey. Who is your gb news Weather Forecast provided by the met after providing some met office after providing some of us with quite a windy day yesterday, agnes now yesterday, storm agnes is now clearing off towards the clearing its way off towards the north. Are north. But those isobars are still tightly spaced still quite tightly spaced together, still going to still quite tightly spaced togazher, still going to still quite tightly spaced toga fairly still going to still quite tightly spaced toga fairly breezy,ill going to still quite tightly spaced toga fairly breezy, blustery to still quite tightly spaced toga fairly breezy, blustery day be a fairly breezy, blustery day for the majority of us. The rain across the far north slowly easing for a good chunk easing off and for a good chunk of us, there will be some dry intervals to be had, fair intervals to be had, a fair amount of around though. Amount of cloud around though. So sunshine probably the so any sunshine probably on the hazier temperatures hazier side side, temperatures perhaps compared to perhaps down a touch compared to yesterday generally around 17 yesterday, generally around 17 to 19 c. But thats pretty much where we should be for this time in the year as we head into the Late Afternoon and evening, well start to see this area of rain push in from the rain push its way in from the west. Some heavy pulses for parts of Northern Ireland, western maybe to western scotland, maybe even to wales. Areas of wales. And Western Areas of england well, or gradually england as well, or gradually shifting eastwards shifting its way eastwards throughout behind shifting its way eastwards throu we ut behind shifting its way eastwards throu we do behind shifting its way eastwards throuwe do see behind shifting its way eastwards throuwe do see some behind shifting its way eastwards throu we do see some clearer that, we do see some clearer intervals developing still with that, we do see some clearer interv showers. Oping still with that, we do see some clearer interv showers persisting with that, we do see some clearer interv showers persisting across some showers persisting across the where those the far north west where those clearer occur, clearer intervals do occur, temperatures drop temperatures will just drop that down bit more , 10 or down slightly, a bit more, 10 or 11 c. A milder start across 11 c. But a milder start across the southeast as this rain gradually way off. Gradually clears its way off. But much of england and but for much of england and wales, there will be some sunshine to be had throughout the relatively pleasant. The day and relatively pleasant. Some though, persisting the day and relatively pleasant. Sornorthern though, persisting the day and relatively pleasant. SorNorthern Ireland. |h, persisting the day and relatively pleasant. SorNorthern Ireland. Scotland. Ing for Northern Ireland. Scotland might fringe down into north west of england as well. Temperatures here still 16, 17 c. But in the more sunshine across southern areas of england, temperatures back up to 21 c. England, temperatures back up to mcmw england, temperatures back up to 21 c. High pressure holds on into saturday, but there is further areas of rain as we head into sunday. But. By a very good morning to you, just gone 7 00 thursday, the 28th of september. And youre tuned into breakfast on gb news with Eamonn Holmes and isabel webster. Well, wherever youre watching , wherever youre watching, wherever youre listening, very much listening, thanks very much indeed for your company. And leading news morning. Leading the news this morning. This what weve got. This is what weve got. Parents nightmare this every parents nightmare this morning. A family, a community and a school in south london are all grieving. The loss of a 15 Year Old Girl who was stabbed to death in her uniform. A 17 year old boy has been arrested this morning. We ask is knife crime out of control . Out of control . Well, weve got an exclusive interview for you. The mayor of interview for you. The mayor of Greater Manchester, andy burnham, tells us how he wants to clean up the areas air without a london style ulez charging zone. How is it going to be able to do that finally, after 40 years of routes being cut , fares after 40 years of routes being cut, fares going up, finally , cut, fares going up, finally, the people of Greater Manchester and how the bosses of the buses, its the other way around. Its the other way around. A new survey suggests the majority of people believe manufacturing is hugely important to the future of our economy. We debate should we be only buying british . The Weather Forecast whats happening after agnes . Heres jonathan from agnes is now clearing away. But theres still some changeable weather on the cards as we head throughout the rest of this week. Join me later for all the details. All the details. Thank you. Im paul coyte is here. A lot of football last night and everybodys getting very excited. Are you getting very excited about the golf . Wait, cant wait for balls for some. I believe you. I believe you. Im excited because i love the way you do your interviews. Ryder cup eamonns even in ryder cup colours as well, by the way, today. So carabao city get today. So carabao cup city get beaten by newcastle. So now beaten by newcastle. So now newcastle will be taking on the other side of manchester in the next round and yes, ryder cup gets undennay here as the round has been drawn. Has been drawn. Yes it has. Have we got newcastle. Yes. Dont like newcastle. Yes. Oh dont like final rerun again. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Sorry i didnt realise the draw had been made. Dont you worry , you may be dont you worry, you may be okay. No time worry about. Okay. No time to worry about. I just want you to think about ryder now , because jamie ryder cup for now, because Jamie Donaldson going with donaldson is going to be with us. 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If youve got youve caddied, if youve got a ryder tale, if you have any ryder cup tale, if you have any tales to tell at all, like we were thinking about there were thinking about buses there and the minister was on and the and the minister was on talking about £80 million talking about an £80 Million Investment buses. And just investment in buses. And i just remember belfast remember growing up in belfast where there was a lot of money spent buses because used spent on buses because we used to all the time. To change them all the time. They were just burnt. Pardon . They were just burnt. Pardon . Somebody stopped them going school . Yeah , you shouldnt laugh. Yeah, you shouldnt laugh. Yeah, you shouldnt laugh. You go to school and somebody said, get off this bus. Were commandeering the commandeering this for the provisional and didnt provisional ira and you didnt really like to argue with a guy in a petrol bomb with his hand and a gun. You know . But there you go. Maybe thats theyre experts thats why theyre such experts at buses in northern at building buses in Northern Ireland ballymena. Ireland and ballymena. You do we design turnaround . You we design the do you know we design the whole you know the london whole do you know the london buses you have the double buses that you have the double deckers . Do. Buses that you have the double dec the . Do. Buses that you have the double dec the very j. Buses that you have the double dec the very ones, buses that you have the double decthe very ones, the very. The very ones, the very. The very ones, the very. Well, what they . They well, what are they . They were based on the original. What were based on the original. What were the were they called. The routemaster. Goodness routemaster. Thank goodness youre here. The routemaster is a double decker bus. Ive now got a great voice for that. Can the left hand side i can see the left hand side on the right hand side. I like the routemaster was reimagined and yes, for london. But thats all made and designed in Northern Ireland because you can off the hang the back. Oh those were the days you could and off. Could jump on and off. Right. Yeah. Thats right. Yeah. Okay. Okay. Well, there we go. Our memories of buses there send us your views on that and the rest of days, two in a row. Of the days, two days in a row. Weve got to talk about on the thats it. Thats i the buses. Thats it. Thats i hate you. Hate you. I hate you. I hate you. Butler i hate you. Butler gb i hate you. Butler gb views a gbnews. Com or you can tweet at. Gbnews. Com or you can tweet at. Gbnews. Com or you can tweet at. Gb news. Well, a tragic story, frankly. Leading our news this morning. Were going to take a look at the scene in croydon in south london at exactly 8 30 yesterday morning for what happened. Morning for what happened. Oh, sorry. Stop. Somebody got stabbed . Yeah, just now. Oh, stabbed . Yeah, just now. Oh, just now. A school girl . Yeah just now. A school girl . Yeah school boy stuff. School boy stuff. School boy stuff. So there we go. A 15 year old so there we go. A 15 Year Old Girl had indeed been stabbed to death with a machete. She was on death with a machete. She was on her way to school , and shes her way to school, and shes been named locally as eliana. Been named locally as eliana. Witnesses say she had just got off the bus in a group when she was attacked and the bus driver and other passers by tried in vain to save her life. She died vain to save her life. She died at the scene. Its believed there had been an argument with a boy, 17 year old, who tried to give the girl or one of her friends some flowers. Friends some flowers. He was aged 17, believed to be known to the victim and was arrested shortly after she died. Shes been described as very comedic with a Bright Future ahead of her chief superintendent andy britton appealed for those with information to come fonnard this is every parents Worst Nightmare , and i know the nightmare, and i know the officers who responded this morning along with our Emergency Service colleagues, are devasted seated at the victims death. Seated at the victims death. This is an emotion i share , this is an emotion i share, and i know people across croydon will be feeling the same. The will be feeling the same. The victims family has been informed and our thoughts are with them at what must be an incredibly difficult time. Incredibly difficult time. This isnt just a one off stabbing , the police have said. Stabbing, the police have said. Its every parents nightmare. And over the years, knife crime has taken many young lives without any sign of the issue being resolved. Fatal stab ins in england and wales remain at a record high as knife crime continues to proliferate. Right. So the proliferate. Right. So the question were asking this morning is this britains version of americas gun crime . And throughout the morning, were going to investigate why young people carry knives, how they get hold of them, and what can be done to protect our children. Well former metropolitan Police Detective Peter Bleksley had very, very strong opinions on this. And itll be interesting to see if you agree with them. He is basically saying whatever the sensitivities bring back, stop and search children, adults , and search children, adults, teenagers, people are dying in numbers. Numbers. That is just off the Richter Scale and something robust has to be done by the police. I dont want our police doing social work. I dont want our police doing what they so often Call Community engagement. Theres two communities they need to engage with. Number one, victims of crime. And number two, perpetrate matters of crime. Lets get that Territorial Support Group down at croydon today. Lets get them on the streets. Lets get them when there is cause when there is justification. Stopping and searching people and lets get them retrieving knives and arresting people. Arresting people. Well, we can speak now to our gb news investigations reporter charlie peters, who joins us in the studio. An awful story to be the studio. An awful story to be talking about. This morning, charlie. Weve spoken to the government in the last 15 minutes. About how minutes. They talk about how they outlawed zombie knives. It doesnt seem to be changing the statistics. I think the peak two statistics. I think the peak two years ago was horrendous years ago was a horrendous number. 30 teenagers murdered in the this is the 16th so the capital. This is the 16th so far this year. Yeah, the numbers really are terrifying. Now, this the terrifying. Now, this is the first murder in croydon, first teenage murder in croydon, in particular since december 2021. But the met this year has recorded 211 stabbings in that borough and across the entire capital since january this year, 2290 stabbings in the city. Thats a 5 increase on last yean thats a 5 increase on last year. So its coming at a wave of not really a pandemic. Having been impressed, charlie, or depressed by yesterday, the amount of spokespeople who were lined up ready to go because they were frequented with knife crime in the croydon area as well. And the most concerning thing i think, is weve heard from Suella Braverman now that shes reaffirming that shes banned zombie knives and these zombie style knives, as shes referred to long blades. Shes the fifth home secretary since 2016 to reaffirm this ban clearly its not working. And when i spoke to Police Officers last night about this incident, they told me that they dont need new laws. They just need the ones that have been introduced to actually be enforced. Ban came in in enforced. This ban came in in 2016. They what really 2016. And they say what really helps what makes the helps them, what makes the difference that difference for them is that these were taken these knives were actually taken off stop and search off the streets. Stop and search takes place and yvette cooper, the shadow home secretary, said theres a loophole. The shadow home secretary, said thernyou a loophole. The shadow home secretary, said thernyou can a loophole. The shadow home secretary, said thernyou can veryr loophole. The shadow home secretary, said thernyou can veryr looptacquire and you can very easily acquire these online. I would these knives online. And i would know two last night, know i bought two last night, two last night. How a zombie knife cost . £45 for a set of two. 27 inch knife. And there are plenty more available. Some are out of stock, some are the more menacing looking ones than two foot yeah, and what checks foot long. Yeah, and what checks and have to go through . Mean, your age checked . I mean, was your age checked . Was your background checked in any what can you tell us any way . What can you tell us about the website that you use to these . To access these . Havent gone to them these. I havent gone to them for right because for a right of reply because i only only bought this night only only bought this last night at but when i checked at midnight. But when i checked online, it was very easy. Online, i mean it was very easy. I had to just click an age verification box and it was a self kind of affirmation my self kind of affirmation of my age. There was no age. There was no there was no id. In fact, they offered a discount for members of the police, is a strange kind police, which is a strange kind of branding move. I dont think many officers want to see many Police Officers want to see people buying zombie knives, let alone was alone themselves. So it was quite sight quite a remarkable sight to go through there plenty through and there were plenty more available and cheaper prices, available prices, cheaper prices available elsewhere. See, i, i reckon elsewhere. You see, i, i reckon of three were school age. Of us three were school age. Think back to that if you think back to that time and you conceal a how time and you could conceal a how long you. Long did you. 27 and theres two 27 inch knife in your bag. You wouldnt do it because youd frightened being youd be frightened about being caught, wouldnt have it caught, wouldnt have done it anyway. You just we anyway. But yeah, you just we just do it. You just wouldnt do it. You wouldnt school wouldnt do transport to school every age of 11. Every day from the age of 11. But the worlds changed. Its not as safe in the capital. Peter bleksley talking Peter Bleksley was talking about right. About stop and search. Right. And he was saying, bring it back. Says the youngsters back. Karen says the youngsters are knives as are allowed to carry knives as they they cant be searched they know they cant be searched. Needless to says, its no. And needless to says, its no good. Trying prevent good. Just trying to prevent young carrying they young ones carrying knives. They need educated on whole need to be educated on the whole social emotional effects. Social and emotional effects. Thats a really interesting point because the topic stop point because the topic of stop and search, mean, goodness and search, i mean, goodness knows many times weve knows how many times weve covered years and covered this over the years and we heard the view we havent heard the view reflected this morning arguing against and i think we need against it. And i think we need to point that a lot of to put that point that a lot of people, particularly from ethnic minority backgrounds, that minority backgrounds, say that it that it is discriminatory and that actually makes their lives a living you have living hell. You can have respectable going respectable people going about their business, parents, fathers, working , being fathers, hard working, being stopped, experiences stopped, humiliating experiences for no other reason other than the colour of their skin. That would argument against would be the argument against stop and search. But if were talking about this actually holistically terms holistically, not just in terms of how we clamp down on it in terms of prosecutions, theres clearly element to all clearly a social element to all of and damilola taylors of this. And damilola taylors father night and father coming out last night and saying has broken down. Saying society has broken down. Yeah. And i think lots of people feel though stop and people feel as though stop and search is that kind of interval honest method does create honest method that does create so controversy. That so much controversy. See that they looking alternative they are looking for alternative methods its caught methods because its so caught up a political storm. People up in a political storm. People dont to refer to it so dont want to refer to it so often. And you know, sadiq khan in 2015 that he wanted to in 2015 said that he wanted to clamp stop and search clamp down on stop and search with of his power. And with all of his power. And thats been a kind of a political back. And forth ever since. As that goes on, since. But as that fray goes on, teenagers being murdered. Teenagers are being murdered. Charlie, what knife charlie, what about knife amnesties . Talk amnesties . Why dont we talk about anymore . Theyve about those anymore . Theyve been the past. Been successful in the past. When a story like this when we have a story like this which nation, i mean, which shocks the nation, i mean, a 15 Year Old Girl in her School Uniform known uniform going to a well known leading private school in the middle of morning rush hour. Leading private school in the middle of morning rush hour. You middle of morning rush hour. You know, this is the sort of story that makes us all pause. Why is there not a call this morning, do you think . Do you think thats something that needs to happen . Successful happen . Are they successful as a tool try and bring down the tool to try and bring down the number of weapons on the street . I most people will i think most people will be seeking that i think most people will be seeki|tools that i think most people will be seeki|tools are that i think most people will be seeki|tools are being that i think most people will be seeki|tools are being deployed more tools are being deployed and being and more strategies are being used, by the police but used, not just by the police but also by councils and schools to really to where this really capture to where this intervention going and intervention is going wrong and where are flowing into where knives are flowing into the more easily. On the the streets more easily. On the success of stop and search. We know last year, for example, that 20 of all stop and that over 20 of all stop and searches to further action. Searches led to further action. And just knives that and its not just knives that they care about. Also drugs they care about. Its also drugs and Gang Violence and the and the Gang Violence and the culture that fuels that conflict, that rise to a conflict, that gives rise to a need for somebody to hide a 27 inch in their bag. Inch blade in their bag. Well, we were saying Peter Bleksley was saying this morning that i was saying, well, why dont we just have knife scanners at the entrances of schools . And he said, because they deposit they hide these knives in bushes or whatever before they even get to the school. And then they pick them up aftennards. Its been quite remarkable. Noticing the rise of knife scanners in Public Places over the years. I mean, notting hill carnival, first time had carnival, for the first time had knife this year, and knife scanners this year, and that didnt seem to do an awful lot. We these zombie knives lot. We saw these zombie knives being brandished in street. Being brandished in the street. It was think it was a relief. It was i think it was a relief. It was i think it was a relief. It was i think it was a relief. It was it quite remarkable it was it was quite remarkable that nobody nobody was was murdered, how murdered, considering how flagrant they were with flagrant and open they were with these of these swords in the middle of west london. Well, Peter Bleksley describing it as a tide of teenage blood through teenage blood running through our capital. Gone through our capital. Weve gone through some of the issues around all of that. Wed love to hear from you at home, how you think we should be tackling this. Are you in favour of and search . Does favour of stop and search . Does there to be a knife amnesty there need to be a knife amnesty and think is damilola and do you think is damilola taylors that taylors father has said that society broken down. Society has broken down. You listening to charlie you were listening to charlie peters, news investor , peters, whos gb news investor, nafive peters, whos gb news investor, native reporter. Thank you very much indeed for take on much indeed for your take on things. Thank much things. Thank you very much indeed. Charlie right to our exclusive interview with the Greater Manchester mayor, andy burnham. Yeah, he wants the government to look at schemes such as more electric buses and to adopt his be network in other cities. Its simplified transport system with integrated fares and all under local control. The b of course, a symbol of the worker bee of manchester. So andy burnham told our Political Editor Christopher Hope that his plans could mean there is no need for a ulez ulez style charging zone as we have in london in manchester. Are you doing here . Youre creating this new network to connect trams and buses and make it much more seamless for travellers. Exactly. So were putting buses back under public control so that we can link the bus so that then we can link the bus fare system to the tram fare system. A tap in tap out system. Weve already cut the cost of pubuc. Weve already cut the cost of public transport in Greater Manchester by 20 to mark the arrival of the network. Now arrival of the b network. So now today people can get tickets that are combined bus and tram tickets that are 20 cheaper than what they would have been before the b network. The thing about moving to a system under pubuc about moving to a system under public control like the b network is fine. After 40 Years Network is fine. After 40 years of routes being cut , of fares of routes being cut, of fares going up. Finally, the people of going up. Finally, the people of Greater Manchester and now the bosses of the buses. Its the other way round. Okay, can you pay in cash on the bus network . You can. Its very important to our weather campaign gb views. And you know, we im aware. And you know, we have conversations, so that will stay. Stay. That stay. That will stay. That will stay. There are cash trays on the new electric that we and new electric buses that we and new electric buses that we and new electric buses can i just say to gb news built in britain. Yeah, built in britain. In scotland, 50 new buses went onto the roads of wigan and bolton in the last 2 or 3 days, built in, built in scotland. I think thats a great story, isnt it . And i think one of my appeals to the government is kind of okay, well give you credit for helping us do this. So have more of it, so lets have more of it, because actually it wont just help people in cost of help people in the cost of living crisis. Could also living crisis. It could also help us with our clean air. Youll cut emissions enough with your new or 50 new electric buses, 50 more coming and the rest of it. That will that will mean you dont need to do any kind of ulez zone here. Well its not quite as simple as that. But let me explain this really clearly. We are confident and that the evidence backs this up , that if we were to if the up, that if we were to if the government was to back the network, i. E, help us bring more , more electric buses into Service Across the city region. But if it was also to back us with investment to help keep our our taxis improve, our hackney cabs upgrade, we believe we can do it via an investment led approach rather than a charge based approach. Can we now then agree that a clean air zone is not right for Greater Manchester charging zone . Prime minister , charging zone . Prime minister, you can come here this weekend. You can back the network with the investment that it needs. The investment that it needs. You can back the taxi industry with the investment which it needs and you could have an example of saying this is how you to net zero. But in a you get to net zero. But in a fairer way for the public. Greater manchester is your opportunity. Not or never opportunity. Its not or never then, is it . I mean, how money do you i mean, how much money do you need the government not to need from the government not to bnng need from the government not to bring ulez here . No i wont have one. I came in as one. I said when i came in as mayor that i wouldnt have a congestion charge. Ive saying and ive also saying i wouldnt have a charging clean air zone. Why is why . Because i mean, we first developed mean, when we first developed the clean air zone idea, it was meant to be enough money in the system to help everybody upgrade their with their vehicles. And then with their vehicles. And then with the the of the pandemic, the cost of vehicles spiralled. Hence vehicles spiralled. And hence there was the backlash, which was understood and justified. And why gm is now in a in a different position. We are saying that you can do this in a different way as long as im there. No i will not have a charging zone either. A congestion charge scheme or a clean air style scheme. The clean air style scheme. The reason being the north of england has never had the investment in transport to allow some people to live without their car. Their car. Well, we can speak to our deputy Political Editor, tom hannood, about all of this. Good to see you, tom. Interesting talking to the government about this. I mean, theyre making an £80 million contribution to 64 local authorities. Its not going to go an awful long way to what andy burnham is talking about. There no , its not. And clearly, we no, its not. And clearly, we heard andy burnham there say that he needs more money. Theyve started with the buses 50 already. Theyre on the network, 50 more to come. But crucially , we heard from andy crucially, we heard from andy burnham there. He needs cash for taxis if hes going to avoid the sort of imposition on of a of a ulez style zone in Greater Manchester, which of course, many cities in the United Kingdom are mandated to clean up their air in some way. You it doesnt have to be through a charging zone like sadiq khan has implemented in london, but it does have to be through some sort of mechanism. And andy sort of mechanism. And andy burnham there was talking about cleaning up the taxis as his next port of call. But of course, that needs investment. Course, that needs investment. And no doubt andy burnham will be making that message loud and clear to the conservatives, who, of course , are coming to of course, are coming to manchester this weekend for their party conference. But it is interesting listening to andy burnham become sort of a big, loud opponent of these clear air zones, painting himself as someone who has been fighting for the motorists because it wasnt that long ago that , of wasnt that long ago that, of course, andy burnham proposed a clean air zone in Greater Manchester, modelled on the london ulez zone. It was only in london ulez zone. It was only in february last year, after huge uproar from the populations across Greater Manchester that he rowed back from that and performed a u turn on that clear clean air zone proposal for Greater Manchester and in this interview with Christopher Hope exclusively on gb news, weve heard andy burnham become become perhaps the most fervent he has ever been, the clearest that he has ever been, that whilst he is mayor, there will be no such zone imposed on Greater Manchester. Perhaps its statements like that and perhaps this u turn might not be seen in the worst light. Perhaps its. Perhaps it looks like this is a mayor who is listening to the concerns of his constituents in a way that perhaps some other mayors are not. Who could he be talking about . Thank you very much indeed, tom. Well well leave it there. Yeah a few views to share on this. Karens got in touch. Andy burnham needs to sort out bus routes and local train routes. Bolton to manchester at 8 00 is a nightmare. And leigh says given Richard Holden, thats the mp the government we spoke mp from the government we spoke to half hour, is on to in the last half hour, is on tv talking about public tv talking about local public transport improvements his transport improvements in his area. Says leigh, transport improvements in his area. Companysays leigh, transport improvements in his area. Company holdseigh, transport improvements in his area. Company holds ajh, transport improvements in his area. Company holds a monopoly one bus Company Holds a monopoly one bus Company Holds a monopoly on nearly every route. Many on nearly every route. Many services have been cut and even direct routes have been cut to major areas like metro centre and newcastle. So people now have to get to buses, which is a huge problem. Yeah i tell you, the problem of course is youve got to decide if you have a bus business or a bus service. Business or a bus service. This and privatisation is the problem because if its not making money, how on earth can they be expected to . But its they be expected to . But its a they be expected to . But its a the service and absolutely. And the service and absolutely. And thats why it should be a bus service. Probably it should be nationalised with that. But if Andy Burnhams dreams and aspirations come together , it aspirations come together, it would be a magnificent network. He would be setting up an integrated network. And i thought Richard Holden, whos the transport minister, is he . The transport was more junior parliamentary under secretary, but yeah, hes in the department for transport. Incredibly he was incredibly enthusiastic and incredibly pro cross party. Cross party. And i thought to myself, you know, that is that is the only way to do it. Instead of this adversaire trial system where everybodys against everybody to actually. He went up actually cooperate. He went up to andy and said, to see andy burnham and said, look, can i help with this . Look, how can i help with this . And i thought that was that was really good because people really good because the people who from this who have to benefit from this are us, the public, as opposed to political parties. As with to political parties. As with this, we make life better . This, do we make life better . Thats the thing. Will life be better a result of what you better as a result of what you do as a minister . I wouldnt want to an mp. I wouldnt want to be an mp. I wouldnt want to be an mp. I wouldnt want elected want to be an elected representative of any sort. But representative of any sort. But if , my modus operandi if i was, my modus operandi would be, is this making life better for people . Are we doing the right thing . And then i would fall out with whoever my party was , and that would have party was, and that would have to be an independent. And i couldnt take the party whip yeah, itd be difficult to be in one group party and think blankly, just like sheep, like everybody else. There so were going to take a look now with the time at 723 and some of the other top stories this morning. This morning. News has formally apologised to the journalist eva evans for a series of derogatory and unacceptable comments made by gb news presenter laurence fox on this channel. He was being interviewed by another gb news host, dan wootton. Both host, dan wootton. Both presenters were then suspended and immediately taken off air. Gb news says it is conducting a full investigation while the media watchdog ofcom has received complaints and is also investigating , ms evans has said investigating, ms evans has said the comments made her feel disgusting and vile but welcomed the apology from gb news dan wootton has also apologised personally, saying he regretted the interview and should have intervened. Intervened. Its a u turn for labour, they say. They no longer plan to end the charitable status for private schools, but they will continue to try and remove other what they say are unfair tax breaks. If they get into number 10. Prime minister rishi sunak has accused sir keir starmer of attacking the hardworking aspiration of millions of people i storm agnes swept across large parts of england and heavy rains and strong winds accompanied it. The National Grid says it has been dealing with Power Outages at hundreds of properties, but many had been reconnected. And last night. At reconnected. And last night. At to the legacy of agnes in mind, lets go to Jonathan Vautrey to see what follows in agnes wake. See what follows in agnes wake. Hello there. Very good morning to you. Im jonathan morning to you. Im Jonathan Vautrey. Who is your gb news Weather Forecast provided by the met office after providing some of quite a windy of us with quite a windy day yesterday, agnes now yesterday, storm agnes is now clearing its way off towards the north, but those isobars are still quite spaced still quite tightly spaced together, going together, so its still going to be a breezy, blustery day be a fairly breezy, blustery day for of us. The rain for the majority of us. The rain across the far north slowly easing off and for a good chunk of be some dry of us, there will be some dry intervals be had. Fair intervals to be had. A fair amount of around, though. Amount of cloud around, though. So sunshine probably the so any sunshine probably on the hazier temperatures hazier side, temperatures perhaps a touch compared to perhaps down a touch compared to yesterday, generally around 17 to but thats pretty much to 19 c. But thats pretty much where we should be for this time in the year as we head into the Late Afternoon and evening, well start to see this area of rain push its way in from the west. 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But england and but for much of england and wales, there will be some sunshine had throughout sunshine to be had throughout the pleasant. The day and relatively pleasant. Some showers , though, persisting the day and relatively pleasant. Sornorthern rs , though, persisting the day and relatively pleasant. SorNorthern Ireland. Gh, persisting the day and relatively pleasant. SorNorthern Ireland. Scotlandting for Northern Ireland. Scotland might fringe down into north west england as well. North west of england as well. Temperatures here still 16, 17 c. But in the more sunshine across southern areas of england, temperatures back up to 21 c. England, temperatures back up to mcmw england, temperatures back up to 21 c. High pressure holds on into saturday, but there is further areas of rain as we head into sunday. By okay, should we be buying british or should we still be getting cheap stuff from overseas . Well be debating that. N ext next okay. Well, were now going to survey which is suggested that the majority of you say manufacturing to the country is hugely important because it is the future of the economy. Well, in the meantime, lockdown restrictions, fierce war in ukraine, have reminded us of the importance of producing what we need here in the uk. Instead, perhaps of relying on supply from overseas. So wed like to know this morning, should we be doing a bit more to support manufacturing from britain by british and only british . Okay lets speak to a couple of guests on this one. I conservative councillor Matthew Goodwin freeman, who believes we should only buy british and Alex Petropoulos is a political commentator from young voices uk, who believes we shouldnt. Good morning to you both. Lets start with the argument against though, because i think most our audience will most of our audience will probably waking up this probably be waking up to this this morning thinking absolutely support we. Can support british where we. Can and thats you, alex. You know, we really should when you say it out loud by british hello when you when you say buy british it sounds all good but when you look at the reality of where we are right now, you have say , look, now, you have to say, look, were living in a cost of living crisis. Prices are going up and saying, buy british is just code for saying buy more expensive products. And its really code products. And its really code not just for buy more expensive projects, but forced the british people to buy more expensive products. What this debate is all about is about giving People Choice and letting people , you choice and letting people, you know, have the ability to choose and make up their mind and say, you know, i think this product is actually better. Whether or not made in britain, i not its made in britain, i dont appropriate in dont think its appropriate in a of living crisis. But a cost of living crisis. But alex, is it really more expensive because, you know, the employment that it generates, the taxes that it generates that go back into the Economy Today and the simple fact that its probably the right thing to do all most morally well, you know , i think that you could frame it like that. But when youre framing it like that, youre saying, should we help this one very small group of manufacturers and this one very small group of businesses, or should we be looking out for the whole country and, you know, there might be some marginal benefits from taxation, but at the end of the day, if it was cheaper to buy, british people would be doing it already. And if better for the economy if it was better for the economy , be doing it already. , theyd be doing it already. Yeah, it . Yeah, thats true, isnt it . Matthew freeman Matthew Goodwin freeman unless youre absolutely loaded, its to support its not that easy to support British Business and industry. Well , i mean, to British Business and industry. Well, i mean, to an British Business and industry. Well , i mean, to an extent well, i mean, to an extent thatis well, i mean, to an extent that is true because the manufacturing breakdown shows that the uk only produces 2 of the worlds manufacturing and china is up there at 29. And the us are at 17. So were completely right that if we want to get buying british made in british, weve got to scale up. So thats why we look at stuff like levelling up. Thats £11 billion of investment in levelling up and bringing opportunity around the country. And last last month, the government announced £33 million into british jobs for the future. And looking at green jobs, i completely agree that if were looking right here, right now, yes, british products and British Goods are to going be slightly more expensive than others that can be imported from elsewhere. But we need to look elsewhere. But we need to look at the future. We need to look at the future. We need to look at our future because the war in ukraine, everything that russia has done and our reliance on china has proven that weve got to get back to made in britain. And it was one of the first things i said when i ever came on this on gb news. I said i want to see made in britain come back again. Okay but matthew, you said, look at the future. But i could just bnng at the future. But i could just bring you back to the past. And in the early 70s there was a whole by british campaign. There were adverts on television, there were stickers that you could put on your car to say, im buying british. And it was almost a badge of shame. If you if you bought a fiat or a citroen as opposed to an austin or a or a morris or Something Like that. What im trying to say is theyve tried it before. Say is theyve tried it before. It didnt go anywhere. Why did it not go anywhere . Probably because , as alex was saying, because, as alex was saying, theres probably too expensive. Theres probably too expensive. Well, this is the thing. If we want, you know, british products to be cheaper than the market, we need to stop outsourcing ourselves to everywhere else in the world. We need to Start Building new factories here in the uk, putting focus here on the uk and encouraging people in the uk to take british jobs, build those vacancies. Weve talked before about the 1. 5 million job vacancies, but the 1 Million People on benefits , we could people on benefits, we could fill that overnight and get british people in british jobs. You know, its going to take time to get britain up from 2 to 29. But we can do that. We absolutely can do that, because if we dont try, well never know. And thats the thing. We cant doubt this country. Weve got to look fonnard with aspiration. Aspiration. Yeah. And just a final thought from you, alex, in all of this. I mean, you talk really about how kind of the bottom line comes ahead of morality in a way, but there is another option, isnt there . I mean, if the only place you can get the only place that you can get affordable is these affordable goods is from these sort global that sort of Global Companies that are here in uk are dodging tax here in the uk and you want to line their and you dont want to line their pockets, maybe we just buy less stuff. It is a novel idea. Maybe we just make do and mend a little bit, maybe less ends up in landfill. Maybe thats the right thing to do for britain as well. Well, you know , you could be well, you know, you could be right there. But i think that, you know, my opponent was right to should be aspirational to say we should be aspirational for. We should want for britain. We should want britain its best. But britain to do its best. But i think that forcing people to buy british would be doing british now would be doing exactly the opposite that, exactly the opposite of that, because lets be honest, we arent the best at building everything and we shouldnt set ourselves off this false illusion that we can do everything and we can just go back past. How was. Back to the past. How it was. Its past anymore. We its not the past anymore. We cant back to being this cant go back to being this incredible manufacturing nation. For really. We can do it for some really key areas and we can invest in those areas. Gentlemen, when you buy british now, youre saying really , we wish that british really, we wish that british people should settle for less and that the british people should settle for a Current System that is currently just a bit inadequate to be buying british. Okay, guys, got to leave it there. By british fonnard against this, let us know gbviews gbnews. Com. Matthew and alex really appreciate what you had to say. Mark has said what if on light online sites like amazon and ebay were to use a small image of the flag where the country of the country where the country of the country where the item was produced at, i would certainly be looking for the union jack in preference to any other. In venice i was there this time last year everywhere you went to buy some of the traditional kind of holiday tat, it would have a little sign with the provenance and a lot of it was from china and it made me stop. Id be, oh, im going to buy a little gift. A little mask wasnt authentic for the children, you know, its children, you know, because its obviously masks in obviously famous for masks in venice. Was no, im venice. And i was like, no, im not it. Im not buying not buying it. Im not buying chinese tat. Thank you very much. Goodness me. And we goodness me. And my wife, we were live. One day and were on tv live. One day and there was a film on venice and she oh, venice. We a she said, oh, venice. We had a wonderful time in venice. It was my romantic away my most romantic time ever away in venice, she said. To which i said, but ive never been to. Would she been to venice with . Thats a whole other story. Ill tell. Ill tell you after we come back from the sport. Were very, very hurtful for me. Im not surprised. Its very hard for me. Heres paul coyte. Heres paul coyte. Ill tell you, i had a wonderful holiday in venice. Oh, wonderful holiday in venice. Oh, my no lets leave my goodness. No lets leave that. There yesterday. Okay. That. There yesterday. Okay. Carabao cup. So whos leaving it there in the carabao cup . Carabao cup . Of course. You know, were calling it the carabao cup. I still like to call the league cup from time call it the league cup from time to time. So shall we go with that . But i noticed. I noticed on morning were on radio this morning they were calling the efl cup. Yeah, theres the efl, the carabao. Then was milk then before that it was the milk cup the first one. Cup was the first one. Littlewoods rumbelows been cup was the first one. Littirumbelows. Rumbelows been cup was the first one. Littirumbelows. Its1belows been cup was the first one. Littirumbelows. Its also ws been cup was the first one. Littirumbelows. Its also beeneen the rumbelows. Its also been the rumbelows. Its also been the coca cola. Its been the worthington. Yes. Anybody. Worthington. Yes, yes. Anybody. But its still a trophy but anyway, its still a trophy that i believe that that supporters want to win. Supporters want to win. Its a day out at wembley and its the first trophy of the season, isnt it . Absolutely is. So its the end of end of february. So the only real game probably i mean with respect to all the other teams, the one that we probably pay teams, the one that we probably Pay Attention to is the pay most attention to is the fact that newcastle beat manchester yeah, Manchester City last. Yeah, which result. Which was a very good result. Big game obviously for newcastle. All man the. It was all man city in the first half and eddie howe did a great job did the side. Great job and so did the side. So, so theyre through. So in the theyre to going the next round theyre to going be at manchester united. So be away at manchester united. So thats of last years thats a rerun of last years final west ham are going to final and west ham are going to be everton be playing arsenal. Everton against bournemouth against burnley, bournemouth versus liverpool. Down to the versus liverpool. So down to the last the carabao stroke, last 16 of the carabao stroke, milk league cup, milk stroke, league cup, whatever call it. Whatever you want to call it. Right. Russia know, right. Okay. Russia you know, have about russia have you heard about russia being in under 17 being included again in under 17 football . I just think this is wrong. I just think this is wrong. You know, i just think its wrong. I could not believe when i heard this. So uefa have decided to reinstate eight russian junior teams this is not a situation where we would have a situation where we would have a russian independent, ardent Russian Football Federation team. It is down under the russian flag. And the reason you for saying this is because the war in ukraine, its not fair that the kids should miss out on tournament football. Should we tell them to go to their. Yeah, president or where it comes from or whatever and talk to it about that. Thats where thats where the buck stops. Its not with uefa. So uefa have agreed this, but its not going to fly because theres a tournament in sweden, then everybody is saying we wont them. Wont play them. You be compelled to go would you be compelled to go and play a russian team in russia, for instance . No no, you wouldnt be no. Wouldnt be no. If youre playing a russian team , youre playing a russian team, youre playing a russian team. I feel that way about the olympics. I even felt that way about the tennis. Yeah, no, no. But what im saying is, would you drawn in against a you be drawn in against a russian team in russia . You be drawn in against a rusoh, team in russia . You be drawn in against a rusoh, tsee. In russia . You be drawn in against a rusoh, tsee. Would;ia . You be drawn in against a rusoh, tsee. Would you have to oh, i see. Would you have to travel russia . Travel to russia . Well, because i think well, no, because i think this be tournament this would be tournament football. This is sweden. Football. So this is in sweden. So this is the tournament that would in sweden. So would happen in sweden. So russia, theyre saying, well, when 17 when it comes to the under 17 seconds,. So we seconds, its different. So we should them in. England should let them in. So england have said Northern Ireland have said no, Northern Ireland have said no, Northern Ireland have no good, have have said no good, sweden have said everybody else is going said no. Everybody else is going to so. We wont play to say so. Well, we wont play them, theres no way. So when them, so theres no way. So when we come back in an hours time, weve got big interview. Weve got a big interview. Going to be the one sports going to be the one big im looking big interview. Im looking fonnard jamie fonnard to talking to Jamie Donaldson hit the winning shot in ryder ryder cup begins. Weve got the Opening Ceremony all kicks off ceremony tonight. All kicks off with the four balls tomorrow. And big experience in the and jamie, big experience in the ryder cup. Well, you dont get better hitting the winning better than hitting the winning shot, its to shot, do you . So its going to be with us. So great to get his insight. So great to get his insight. Isabel, some golf tips. Isabel, some golf tips. Okay. Okay. Very much, paul. Thanks very much, paul. Thanks very much, paul. Again 8 20. See you again 8 20. See you again 8 20. Up, going to be coming up, were going to be talking the fiery talking about the fiery exchanges the us exchanges during the us republican last night. Republican debate last night. Thats next thats in headline makers. Next on britains news channel uh, freddie grey , emma burnell. Freddie grey, emma burnell. They have got the newspapers in front of them today, and theyre going to talk about those and other items that are that are making the news this morning in headline makers. That are making the news this morning in headline makers. As morning in headline makers. As freddie, you want to turn your attention online. The latest on the president ial race in the usa. Well, this is a story thats not in the papers, but its quite big overnight because theres the second Republican Debate has just happened. And of course, the big story is the same as the last debate, which is that donald trump isnt there. So in a sense, the whole republican primary process for choosing their candidate is a bit of a dead rubber. It seems to be at the moment, because trump is so far ahead in the polls. However, what it means is that theres a good bit of shouting going on, which i always weve a bit of always enjoy. Weve got a bit of shouting, weve got a bit of shouting. Lets have a look at this social media apps that we could have what youve got. Have and what youve got. Honestly, time i hear i honestly, every time i hear you, i feel little bit dumber you, i feel a little bit dumber for you say because cant for what you say because i cant believe here. A tiktok believe that here. A tiktok situation. Theyre doing is situation. What theyre doing is these 150 Million People are on tiktok. That means they can get your contacts, they can get your financial information, they can get they can get me get your emails, they can get me just messages. Just say text messages. They can get is important. This get all this is important. This is important for our party is very important for our party exactly theyre this exactly what theyre doing. This is important for our party. Is very important for our party. And im going to say, youve gone china gone and youve helped china built in china, built make medicines in china, not america. Excuse me. Now wanting to go and get on wanting kids to go and get on the social media. Thats dangerous you dangerous for all of us. You went and you were in business with the chinese that gave went and you were in business with th biden ese that gave went and you were in business with th biden ese million. e hunter biden 5 million. We cant we cant trust cant trust you. We cant trust you. We say have tiktok and i think that this is very important. It wasnt so much a shouting match a monologue from nikki match as a monologue from nikki haley. There she seemed to come out top. Out on top. Out on top. And the she came out on top. And the initial they do these initial polls, they do these snap shes come in snap polls, shes come top in these polls. So theres some excitement haley. Excitement around nikki haley. But different from but also shes so different from donald trump. The absolute shes like the absolute opposite candidate, shes like the absolute opposhe . Candidate, shes like the absolute opposhe . Former candidate, shes like the absolute opposhe . Former un. andidate, isnt she . Former un. Yes. And yet they had quite a Good Relationship when good working relationship when he president. I think. I he was president. I think. I mean, shes not going to win the primary. She doesnt have mass appeal among the republican base. But, you it is. But, you know, it is interesting that they cannot seem to gain any traction, any of them. And so you get this desperate debate that you had last night with seven people shouting over each other, desperate to have that one killer line. And nikki haley probably got it. But not enough. So do the opposite of the killer line. Was vivek ramaswamy, who had an accidental mistake where he said, stop talking over me while im interrupting. Oh, brilliant. Interrupting. Oh, brilliant. Hes having a bit of a shocker, isnt he . At dup . Yeah. I mean, he he was, i think, kind of slightly insurgent for a while, but he is being shown up to be a bit of an amateur when it comes to being on the debate stage. But then to be honest, on that debate stage, they looked pretty, pretty they all looked pretty, pretty dreadful. The thing is and dreadful. But the thing is and lets take trump biden, pretty dreadful, too. I mean, its one is like morally bankrupt and the other one is just mentally bankrupt. Yeah, thats a thats a probably a good thats exactly it. And at the moment, the polls are suggesting americans prefer the morally bankrupt one because there was a Washington Post poll, abc. Poll, Washington Post, abc, which no biased which is in no way biased towards trump, showed trump ahead by 52 to 42. I think it was. I ahead by 52 to 42. I think it was. I mean ahead by 52 to 42. I think it was. I mean , ahead by 52 to 42. I think it was. I mean , he is running away was. I mean, he is running away with this. And there was a very good partners poll that said if auens good partners poll that said if aliens are attacked, planet earth , who would you rather was earth, who would you rather was defending the free world and donald trump won that one quite easily. However much people easily. However much people dislike him, he has political momentum and but the democrats are going to seriously nominate and give that nomination to joe biden. Biden. Is there nobody that can have a word, albeit even his wife, you know, to say , joe, youre you know, to say, joe, youre not the man you used to be. Are you sure youre up for this . Its interesting. You mentioned the wife, because i think people think the only person that can do it is the well, also, the the wife. Well, also, the question is actually the question is, is she actually the one running the country . Because, you know, theres a man, a person him, man, a person behind him, surely, is not making decisions. I dont think thats completely fair. I dont think hes best candidate. The hes the best candidate. The democrats could fonnard. He democrats could put fonnard. He is but actually, in is too old, but actually, in terms of people who see him , not terms of people who see him, not necessarily just people who work in the white house, but people who go in and journalist and stuff say, actually, when you see him at work, hes perfectly competent. He really on it. Competent. He is really on it. Apparently got a terrible apparently hes got a terrible temper find it temper now, but its i find it very the amount of times you very odd the amount of times you hear that. Hear people say that. Yeah, but they have to because the amount of times that we not, i mean, we say that hes not, i mean, its a push back on that narrative. Yeah. The evidence. Yeah. The evidence. I mean, but other thing i mean, but the other thing is okay, biden is not is like, okay, biden is not a great public speaker and he stumbles, but hes been doing that the 50 or hes that for the 50 years or so hes been the senate. That for the 50 years or so hes bee but the senate. That for the 50 years or so hes bee but listen, enate. That for the 50 years or so hes bee but listen, i ate. That for the 50 years or so hes bee but listen, i have to but listen, i have to disagree. You know, he had a wonderful political career, whether his politics or whether you like his politics or not, as Vice President , but not, as a Vice President , but hes been known gaffe hes always been known as gaffe prone. But not to the same prone. But but not to the same extent. You cant he hasnt been he beenin pubuc extent. You cant he hasnt been he been in public eye he hasnt been in the public eye to the same extent. Vice president. It was, yeah. But very gaffe pro, id but he was very gaffe pro, id say. Im not, not in any way say. Im not, im not in any way saying is my democratic saying he is my ideal democratic candidate. I would vote for him candidate. I would vote for him over trump in a heartbeat of course i would vote for course i would. I would vote for. Course i would. I would vote for , you know, a poodle over trump in heartbeat. But, you know, in a heartbeat. But, you know, there its fair to there are i think its fair to say that he is 80 something. Hes not at the top of his game. But i also think that the idea that he is complete neatly out of it is not fair either. I think there is a balanced position in the middle to be found. Im sorry. Im sorry. Sorry, sorry. I think he has moments of lucidity, but he has quite a few moments where too many mistakes and you watch how he walks and stumbles and he falls and the freezes quite lot. I mean, when i think of an american president , i think jfk. I think thats the sort of bar that youve got got to set someone with that charisma and, you know, again, i was watching a film on the Nuclear Crisis with cuba. And in the early 60s with cuba. And in the early 60s with cuba. And in the early 60s with that and the team that they had in the white house at that time was amazing. But were not seeing that again. It is just its a mess. It is absolutely incredible. Lets talk about what is absolutely beautiful. Emma and the mirror or featuring our favourite foods and relatively relatively simple. Yeah. Britain. Relatively relatively simple. Yeah. Britain. Im so disappointed in you. I mean, its so bland. And the idea that its so bland. And the idea that our favourite that you would the number three favourite starter is tomato soup. Now dont get me wrong, theres a place for tomato soup in the world, but its not your favourite thing to eat. For a start. To my god, its like made with real tomatoes or something. Tomatoes or something. Or is itjust a tin of tomato or is it just a tin of tomato soup . One would hope that if you go to a restaurant and order this, its not just a can of heinz. What would be your favourite starter then . Emma number starter then . Emma so number 10 chicken pate that i do Chicken Liver Pate that i do love and my dad makes the best Chicken Liver Pate in the world. So and that is the taste of christmas for me because it comes out every year. But yeah, just a bit, something just something a bit, something a bit more complex a bit. You, you cant make it at home. You cant just make it at home. The prawn cocktail is the number one starter. Well is it the 70s again. Well. Well its hard to beat. Its absolutely hard to beat. You get a good prawn cocktail. Nothing much to complain about. Im with you, eamonn. Im a man of simple taste. Clearly, because i prawn cocktails. Because i like prawn cocktails. Great i love. Great tomato soup. I love. But when was the last time you ordered a tomato soup in a restaurant . Thats true. I havent ordered. Ive never asked for tomato soupin ive never asked for tomato soup in restaurant and apple crumble. Crumble. What could be more comforting than an apple . I mean, apple was i mean, apple crumble was very nice. Surprise me is very nice. What . Surprise me is it crumble with her it made apple crumble with her own bloxhams. What are they called . Apples. What are they called . Apples. The very red ones and green ones and all sorts of things. And. And all sorts of things. And. And i had custard and i was given the choice of hot or cold custard. This is all from isabel on sunday. There you go. What . Surprise me slightly was it was youve got five desserts down before there was any chocolate involved. Me, if im looking at a for me, if im looking at a dessert menu, the only chocolate thats looking for i you see, again, i agree with freddie. You get a steak done. Well with nice vegetables or gravy or the accompanying it. Always, always wanted to do you go for lyonnaise potatoes . Do you go for mash . Do you go for chips . Im i think this is heresy these days, but i quite like those mushroom sauces that they put on stage. You know, i think those are very good. And if you go a good. You ever been go to a good. Have you ever been to rules in london, the oldest restaurant in london . Yes, they do. A delicious steak sauce. Do. A delicious steak and sauce. Yeah steak has to be i used to my steak has to be i used to be of the opinion, you know, medium well done. But medium to. Well done. But i agree. Go what the chefs agree. Go with what the chefs say. It more rare and say. Make it more rare and a medium rare. I like. I like it pink but not. I want pots almost still be beaten. No, youre like my dad. My blue. Yeah, absolutely i freddie, can we talk about private schools . Its something that we have really talked about. Oh, weve only got 10s. Oh, have to do it next oh, well have to do it next time but is u turn time round. But this is a u turn on the charitable status of private stay tuned. Lets do it. Lets do it. Lets do it. Lets do it for that. Lets do it for that. Next, our one minute neighbours say theyre to going put vat private school fees and. And now theyre saying, well, theyre still going to try and do on the vat, but theyre do it on the vat, but theyre not doing it via the charitable status. The of status. Whats the ethics of that . In the that . Well debate it in the next review here. Next paper review here. Now, were going to right now, were going to look what storm agnes left look at what storm agnes left behind. Follows that behind. What follows that jonathan behind. What follows that jon hello there. Good hello there. Very good morning you. Im jonathan morning to you. Im Jonathan Vautrey. Is your gb news vautrey. Who is your gb news Weather Forecast provided the Weather Forecast provided by the met providing some met office after providing some of quite windy day of us with quite a windy day yesterday, is now yesterday, storm agnes is now clearing way off the clearing its way off towards the north, isobars are north, but those isobars are still tightly spaced still quite tightly spaced together, going together, so its still going to be a breezy, blustery day be a fairly breezy, blustery day for the majority of us. The rain across far slowly across the far north slowly easing off for a good chunk easing off and for a good chunk of will be some dry of us there will be some dry intervals be a fair intervals to be had, a fair amount of cloud around though. So probably on so any sunshine probably on the hazier temperatures hazier side side, temperatures perhaps down a touch compared to yesterday, generally around 17 to 19 c. But thats pretty much where we should be for this time in the year as we head into the Late Afternoon and evening, well start to see this area of rain push its in from the rain push its way in from the west. Heavy pulses west. Some heavy pulses for parts of Northern Ireland, western scotland, maybe to western scotland, maybe even to wales. Areas of wales. And Western Areas of england well, or gradually england as well, or gradually shifting its way eastwards throughout shifting its way eastwards throu we ut shifting its way eastwards throu we do see clearer that, we do see some clearer intervals developing still with some across some showers persisting across the where those the far north west where those clearer occur, clearer intervals do occur, temperatures drop that temperatures will just drop that down slightly, a more, 10 down slightly, a bit more, 10 or 11 c. A milder start across 11 c. But a milder start across the southeast this the southeast as this rain gradually clears its off. Gradually clears its way off. But for of england and but for much of england and wales, will some wales, there will be some sunshine throughout sunshine to be had throughout the relatively pleasant. The day and relatively pleasant. Some showers , though, persisting some showers, though, persisting for northern scotland for Northern Ireland. Scotland might fringe down into north west of england as well. Temperatures here still 16, 17 c. But in the more sunshine across southern areas of england, temperatures back up to 21 c. England, temperatures back up to mcmw england, temperatures back up to 21 c. High pressure holds on into saturday, but there is further areas of rain as we head into sunday by day. Usually starting your day with eamonn and isabel. And heres whats leading the for news us this morning. As tributes are being paid to a 15 Year Old Girl whos been stabbed to death on her way to school in south london. Government has south london. The government has told theyre not told breakfast theyre not ruling a return to ruling out a return to widespread stop and search powers to tackle knife crime. Powers to tackle knife crime. Im certainly not against that. Weve got a there are powers there and local Police Forces can use them when necessary. When there are issues. Eyes necessary. When there are issues. Eyes on the ground. We need to get these knives off the street i and in an exclusive interview with gb news mayor of Greater Manchester, andy burnham tells us how he wants to clean up manchesters air without a ulez style charge zone zone final. Style charge zone zone final. After 40 years of routes being cut , fares going up. Being cut, fares going up. Finally, the people of Greater Manchester and how the bosses of the buses, its the other way round. Btec has more strike action looms over pay. We debate is it time to write off student debt for nhs doctors and nurses . Jonathan vautrey will have what comes in the wake of storm agnes. Agnes. Agnes is now clearing away, but theres still some changeable weather on the cards as we head throughout the rest of this week. Join me later for all the details. And as always , paul coyte is and as always, paul coyte is here with all the latest from the of sport. The world of sport. Jamie donaldson played one of the most famous ryder cup shots or winning shots in history to thousand and 2004, 146 yards used a wedge and landed it within ten feet of the hole. And hes going to be with us to talk it talk it all through with us. Top tips. Top tips. Top tips. Top tips. You know, theres actually a plaque. Theres actually a plaque. Theres actually a plaque on the course at gleneagles where actually at gleneagles where he actually hit shot from. Yeah, well, hit the shot from. Yeah, well, fair enough. Its not easy. Its not easy. Very hes good guy. And very good. Hes good guy. And were looking to were looking fonnard to speaking supports speaking to him. He supports liverpool, though. Cant everything. Can we cant have everything. Can you . No, you cant. No, you cant. Anyway you can join in of our discussions. Join in any of our discussions. Gb views gbnews. Com or you can tweet at. Tweet at. Gb news. So as we reach the time just 8 02 oclock. Yes today things were so different in croydon in south london because come half past eight, this is what the scene was like. Around the start. Oh, sorry. Stop somebody got stabbed . Yeah just now. Just now. A school girl . Yeah, a school boy. Stuff goosebumps in the making that a 15 Year Old Girl stabbed to death, as we heard there with a machete making her way to school in her uniform named locally as euana. Eliana. And witnesses described her as getting off the bus with a group of friends as you do so often on your way to school, the bus driver and others trying to help her after she was attacked. Its believed she died at the scene and there had been an argument the boy who had argument with the boy who had offered flowers. Offered flowers. The boy, aged 17, is believed to be. It was believed to be known to the victim. He was arrested shortly after she died. Shes been described as very comedic with a Bright Future ahead of her. Chief superintendent andy britton appealed for anyone with information to come fonnard. This is every parents Worst Nightmare. Nightmare. And i know the officers who responded this morning, along with our Emergency Service colleagues, are devastated at the victims death. This is an emotion i share and i know people across croydon will be feeling the same. The victims feeling the same. The victims family has been informed and our thoughts are with them at what must be an incredibly difficult time. Time. Well, as he said, there every parents nightmare and over the years, knife crime has taken too many lives without any sign of this issue being resolved. Fatal this issue being resolved. Fatal stabbings in england and wales remain at record highs as knife crime grips the nation. The question were asking this morning is this britains version of what in america is gun crime . And throughout the morning , were going to look morning, were going to look into why young people carry these knives, how they get hold of them, what can be done to protect other children around them . Well, earlier, we got the forthright opinions of the former met Police Detective Peter Bleksley. He said the only opfion Peter Bleksley. He said the only option for him, as he sees it, is to bring back, stop and search children , adults, search children, adults, teenagers. Teenagers. People are dying in numbers. Thatis people are dying in numbers. That is just off the Richter Scale. And something robust has to be done by the police. I dont want our police doing social work. I dont want our police doing what they so often Call Community engagement. Theres two communities they need to engage with. Number one, victims of crime. And number two, perpetrators of crime. Lets get that Territorial Support Group down at croydon today. Lets get them on the streets. Lets get them when there is cause when there is justification. Stopping and searching people and lets get them retrieving knives and arresting people. Arresting people. Well, also this morning, we heard from the road and transport minister. His name is Richard Holden. And richard said that the government will not rule out, stop and search. New legislation has been brought in. Sentences are being strengthened, which is vitally important as well. But overall , important as well. But overall, i think this is about us as a society really ensuring that we get across to people, that there is no place for possession of a knife and that, yes, the government will act with tougher sentencing , know weve got extra sentencing, know weve got extra police, 20,000 plus now, extra since when . I was elected in 2019, out on the streets. Im certainly not against that. Weve got there are powers there and local Police Forces can use them when necessary. When there are issues on the ground. Are issues on the ground. Well, joining us now is the founder and director of the Kiyan Prince Foundation , mark Kiyan Prince Foundation, mark prince. Good morning to you , prince. Good morning to you, mark. And look, every time a teenager loses their life and this is the 16th this year, this must bring back your own personal horrors of having lost your teenage son in exactly the same violent way. How long ago was that . Nine. How long ago was that . Nine. How long ago was that . Nine. 17 years. 17 years. One seven. One seven. 17 years. Ive been doing this. And does it still hurt . And does it still hurt . It gets for me , it doesnt it gets for me, it doesnt get any better. No better. I it gets for me, it doesnt get any better. No better. I sat down as soon as i found this news out yesterday that was my day. Finished . Yeah i was just stuck just like this. All i stuck just like this. All i could picture was the parents, the family , the little girl. The the family, the little girl. The same as my boy. What was her last moments like . What was her thoughts . What the kind of fear was going on in her poor little girl . Man, i know, i know. And. And did you not do you and. And did you not do you not feel that mark anything has improved that an awareness, a realisation being curtailed. The government will say to us about all the impositions that theyve imposed about stopping people buying these knives and whatever it is, but what is the most de man ill be honest with you. So imagine youve been called for the news from 17 years ago and youre talking about suggestions. Youre saying we suggestions. Youre saying we need a ten year plan. Were saying we need to have organisations sitting at the table with a government government putting a Strategic Plan together. Nothings been plan together. Nothings been done and youre seeing these things happen. The knife crime things happen. The knife crime epidemic. Now so were having a knife crime pandemic. I talked about this happening that after kyan died that this is what youre going to have if you dont put something in place. Dont put something in place. Do you know, every time i go past the qpr stadium and i see his name up there and did you think theres any relevance . Think theres any relevance . Do you think people look and they think and they they understand the story and he has any effect on todays generation hundred and 10. When youre getting messages not just from young when youre getting messages notjust from young people when youre getting messages not just from young people over here, but young people abroad, because that Campaign Long live the prince went global. So kids across the world sent me messages talking about how that story impacted them. Its story impacted them. Its a powerful, powerful story because it wasnt just left in pain. They got to see that there is hope for them. If you focus on your potential, these guys , its your potential, these guys, its like a lost generation of children were dealing with. And ikeep children were dealing with. And i keep telling everyone we are responsible. Were feeding them responsible. Were feeding them this info formation that theyre seeing. Were in society. One of the things i was thinking about yesterday, mark, is the Police Officers who ever have to knock on a door and tell a parent, yeah , you know, that a parent, yeah, you know, that theyve lost their child through through. Through. How did they how did they break that to news you . I i got a phone call so i didnt get the news broken to me by them. I got a phone call and we headed over to the hospital. Headed over to the hospital. Worst journey of my life. Yes. Worst journey of my life. Yes. Yeah. Getting there, listening to a doctor telling you that he open your sons heart. He he manually tried to keep his heart going. Its memories that just tear your heart apart. So you dont want to have these things thinking about all the time because its hard to function really hard. But then you cant really hard. But then you cant escape it. And you need to sit down and just deal with it. You know, you cant run away from things. Thats why my hearts breaking for this family. Things. Thats why my hearts breaking for this family. The breaking for this family. The journey that theyre going up ahead now, the memories that theyve got that they need, all theyve got that they need, all the support that they can get. The support that they can get. And i really pray that they get all of the support. You know, im going to Say Something which seems quite heartless cruel. Heartless or cruel. Yeah, but it is that family yesterday. Itll be yesterday. But it itll be another family in two weeks time or a month or be croydon. Look at croydon and the knife crime there is really awful but apparently its the 10th in the country or the 10th in the worst in the capital in in london. Where are you find areas where the least revenue is put into young people, youre going to find a lot more problems going on in that council , in going on in that council, in that borough, and youll find that borough, and youll find that croydon has gone that, you know, croydon has gone down as a council, as , you know, down as a council, as, you know, corruption with the council, the money not going towards the young people. So theres a lot more problems there because you have to invest in the youth. And have to invest in the youth. And as you take invest away from the young people, how do you build their future right. Their future right. Well, we will have an argument and there will be viewers and listeners who will say, say this as well. And theyll say, mark, how you do it is stop and search. And were talking about were talking about reintroduction of stop and search. But youll tell me and youre absolutely right, stop and search never went away. Well, exactly right. And why are we focusing all the symptoms . Why dont we start deaung symptoms . Why dont we start dealing with the cause and thats what this whole issue is about. Thats what this whole issue is about. Its the cause parenting, about. Its the cause parenting, i think, that needs a lot of support for parents. Now im never down for knocking people. Im always down for supporting where do we find the problems coming from . We find the coming from . We find the problems coming from the home. So you want to support parents in home with their young in the home with their young people. All the people. And we know all the other challenges that are coming from the media, coming from social media, coming any means that young people can get information on, which is theyve got access to it now at their fingertips. How do you monitor whats affecting your childs mindset . This is about mindset and we underestimate the power of visuals. You cant be given children all these visuals of sex, all these visuals of violence and all this information overload from like a little young age Primary School. By the time they get to a certain age, its you start seeing the effects of it coming out. And im saying were underestimating the power of all of the adults. Information of the adults. Information impressed upon children from a very young age. Thats a really interesting point. And one we will explore in more detail. Point. And one we will explore in more detail. Yeah. Do you in more detail. Yeah. Do you want to bring in Nathaniel Pete . Hes a youth worker for safety box and presumably , nathaniel, box and presumably, nathaniel, youll have been hearing a lot of what was being said there. Do you think that stop and search is the answer in of this . Is the answer in all of this . No. I mean, you know , like no. I mean, you know, like mark said, this is a mindset issue. You know, this is not about stop and search, stop and search like mark said, has not gone away. You know, when i founded the safety box years ago, in fact, around about the same cain was same time that cain was murdered, know, stop and murdered, you know, stop and search was around then. You know, statistics show that know, the statistics show that it has little impact in terms of affecting crime. It shows that, affecting crime. It shows that, you know, theres a lower proportion of arrests which are made because of , you know, stop made because of, you know, stop and search. Theres ethical issues around this where youre talking about disproportionality. This is when i heard the inspector talking about, you know, territorial support coming in. And in fact , support coming in. And in fact, when territorial support, when those police from outside the borough come in, they wreck the community into reaction that the other police have been building with that local community. It is a draconian method and we have to basically get into the minds of young people. Earlier, we need to address the issues of mistrust. Weve got to start to build them up. We have to start championing them. Weve got to build within them leadership skills and teach them about conflict resolution. Weve got to basically help them with traumas that theyve experienced. Have to get into experienced. We have to get into the mindset because mindset the mindset because its mindset that kill. Not the knife. That kill. Its not the knife. Yeah, but that kill, its not the gun. Thats the mindset. The gun. Thats the mindset. Nathaniel what is it going to take, though, for that to change . How many children need to die . I mean, we were speaking to die . I mean, we were speaking to a former detective, Peter Bleksley, this morning. He said bleksley, this morning. He said there was a river of teenage blood running through our capital. Were all sitting here wringing our hands, a lot of us well meaning, saying, you know, how do we actually change things . The change has got to come with a collective multi agency approach. We know from the Public Health model approaches like theyve done in chicago with reducing violence. Glasgow had anissue reducing violence. Glasgow had an issue ten years ago. They implemented the Public Health model approach where youre talking about working correctly model approach where youre talki multi agency ng correctly model approach where youre talki multi agency strategies,y with multi agency strategies, thatis with multi agency strategies, that is working with Primary School level, thats working with parents, thats working with parents, thats working with social workers, thats working the police, that is working with the police, that is working with the police, that is working all of the working with all of the apprentice opportunities and local as a collective local businesses as a collective to create pathways for young people to get into employment. Its investing into youth its about investing into youth centres. Its about giving them other opportunities. Its about understanding neurodiverse conditions in children. Its about stopping the disproportionate exclusion of young people from schools and actually incubating them, giving teachers the right skill sets to deal with the issues that young people may face in a broken home. Its about education. Its about societal changes where youre talking about disrupting the digital outlay of violence thatis the digital outlay of violence that is shown within video content. Its about monitoring that. Its about parents putting limits on what the children are exposed to with music , its exposed to with music, its about putting a tap on, on, on, on, on negative, violent music because we know that from science. It shows that the amygdala, which is a part of the limbic system, the brain records all of that traumatic information, it records everything. And what happens everything. And what happens when that is triggered that young person becomes violent. They dont have the ability once the hormones are moving to emotionally regulate. So we need emotionally regulate. So we need to teach them how to emotionally regulate. Its about relationship building. I mean, theres strategies. Mark theres so many strategies. Mark could even talk about this because been doing because weve been doing this work long. Can tell work for so long. I can tell you, honestly, we hear you, like honestly, when we hear this, painful. This, it is so painful. Weve that i just want to bnng weve that i just want to bring mark in again. Nathaniel and the thing is , he talks like and the thing is, he talks like you. Hes got this pent and this this enthusiasm, this i dont know what to call it, but theres an urgency about what hes talking about. And there is an urgency about this. We in the media will ever will say, oh, this is terrible. This is ghastly. What happened . Whatever. It all goes away whatever. Then it all goes away and then it all comes back again. But you were saying and you can hear from nathaniel again. But you were saying and you c as hear from nathaniel again. But you were saying and you c as well, from nathaniel again. But you were saying and you c as well, thatn nathaniel again. But you were saying and you c as well, that youveaniel again. But you were saying and you c as well, that youve gotl there as well, that youve got to tackle the source, the root of all of this. Weve got to approach the cause and effect. Weve got to do this differently. Yeah, yeah. 100. And just the pain of 100. And just the pain of just being here again, you know, ijust just being here again, you know, i just prefer just to , talking i just prefer just to, talking to mister pete right there because , you know, just the pain because, you know, just the pain of this repeating is too much. Almost like repeating a nobody listening no one aint listening no one cares the proofs in the pudding. Its self evidence based truth. Whos done anything wrong. Theres so much talk about money being invested into knife crime and the young people. But wheres the strategy . You. But wheres the strategy . You cant just throw ideas around police talking about stop and search that policeman talking about, oh, the police. Were not social services, you know, weve got our job and we must go in hard. Youre talking about human beings. Youre talking about talking to young people. Why are you going to go in hard just to arrest thats the problem. Can i you about in know can i ask you about in know in your sons case, the other young in all of this who young person in all of this who was convicted had hassan, 16 years how do you feel about years old. How do you feel about him . Is he still behind bars, still behind bars . Do you feel hes up for parole . Hes up for parole. And, you know, do you think he deserves sympathy as he deserves any sympathy as their forgiveness there their forgiveness . There is their forgiveness . There is their still. Their rage still. If i held on to unforgiveness this, i wouldnt have been able to go in and do so many prison works and help young people with offenders. If i held to on unforgiveness, i wouldnt have worked with catch 22 charity to go in and visit handled myself because i wanted to have a conversation with him. Because why . If i was a parent at home and the School Called me and a kid punched my child in the nose and broke their nose, wouldnt i go down the school . Wouldnt i want to see the child . So if youve killed my child, how come all of a sudden were not getting to see the person thats hurt your child . That didnt make sense to so of course i make sense to me. So of course i want to see him. I didnt want to see him. Sorry, i didnt. I didnt get to the prison ,. I didnt get to the prison, pulled the plug on it. I didnt get to. So i cant talk for him. But many of the children that i see are in messed up situations. Ive just done a prison this week. Were talking about little boys , man, whove got 17 years, boys, man, whove got 17 years, 22 years for a what do they call it . Enterprise joint enterprise. Join enterprise. What does that mean . Youre there your your you mean . Youre there your your you may be at youre at the scene. May be at youre at the scene. You didnt commit the crime. I know what youre talking. But youve got 22 years. Theres kid in there, theres a kid in there, sebastian. I met his eyes. Someone got hit the person dropped on the floor. Not their head died. Hes still in jail because he was there. Like. Like this whole thing is just messed up. Well, you think about things in a very different way. And through clients foundation as well. You do all that. All that. Theyre still kids. Damon. I know. Know. Well, mark, i would love to have you back and maybe talk longer sometime, but yeah, youre so personable and nathaniel, thank you very much indeed its we havent indeed as well. Its we havent we havent got time. We havent we havent got time. We havent got time to get back to you, nathaniel Violence Reduction unit as well. We need money from we need more money from corporates london. All corporates fund london. All right give london violence right give give london Violence Reduction more money to Reduction Unit more money to help them to power young help them to power up young people did a good people because they did a good support all these support for all these organisations. Need more organisations. We need more investment thats the problem. And marks with you and and marks agree with you and saying its right. Both of you privileged to you. Privileged to talk to you. I wish werent talking to you, wish we werent talking to you, but are. Continued good but we are. And continued good luck with all that youre trying to thank you. To do. Thank you. So sorry , guys. Yeah. Im so sorry, guys. Yeah. Yeah take a look at the lets take a look at the weather update with Jonathan Vautrey. Vautrey. Hello there. Very good morning you. Im jonathan morning to you. Im Jonathan Vautrey. Of your news vautrey. Who of your gb news Weather Forecast provided by the vautrey. Who of your gb news weaiofficeecast provided by the vautrey. Who of your gb news weaioffice after provided by the vautrey. Who of your gb news weai office after providing by the vautrey. Who of your gb news weaioffice after providing somee met office after providing some of us with quite windy day of us with quite a windy day yesterday, agnes is now yesterday, storm agnes is now clearing the clearing its way off towards the north. Those isobars are north. But those isobars are still quite tightly spaced together, so still to together, so its still going to be breezy, blustery day be a fairly breezy, blustery day for us. The rain for the majority of us. The rain across far north slowly across the far north slowly easing and for good chunk easing off and for a good chunk of us there will be some dry intervals to be had, a fair amount of cloud around though. So on the so any sunshine probably on the hazier temperatures hazier side, temperatures perhaps compared to perhaps down a touch compared to yesterday, generally around 17 to but thats pretty much to 19 c. But thats pretty much where we should for be this time in the year as we head into the Late Afternoon and evening, well to see area of well start to see this area of rain way in from the rain push its way in from the west. Some pulses for west. Some heavy pulses for parts ireland, parts of Northern Ireland, western scotland, maybe even to wales Western Areas of wales and Western Areas of england gradually england as well, or gradually shifting its way eastwards throughout the night. Behind that, see some clearer that, we do see some clearer intervals developing still with some showers persisting across the where those the far north west where those clearer intervals do occur, temperatures will just drop that down slightly bit more, 10 or down slightly a bit more, 10 or 11 c. But a milder start across the southeast as this rain gradually its way gradually clears its way off. But for much of england and wales, there will be some sunshine throughout wales, there will be some sun daye throughout wales, there will be some sun day and throughout wales, there will be some sun day and relatively � oughout wales, there will be some sun day and relatively pleasant the day and relatively pleasant. Showers, though,. Some showers, though, persisting for Northern Ireland. Scotland fringe down into scotland might fringe down into the north west of england as well. Temperatures here still 16, 17 c. But well. Temperatures here still 16,17 c. But in well. Temperatures here still 16, 17 c. But in the more 16,17 c. But in the more sunshine across southern areas of england, temperatures back up to 21 c. High pressure holds on into saturday, but there is further areas of rain as we head into sunday. Bye bye. Well, it was better than yesterday for most of you. We will come back with a debate about student debt. And heres about student debt. And heres the idea. Basically should doctors be given a pass . Should they be educate for free at universities as long as they sign up to the nhs . Sounds like a good idea to me, but not everybody. Well, lots of them dont sign up to the nhs. Thats the point. They get their subsidised training and then they dont work full time for the nhs welcome back. The times 826 were talking about the nhs now. Experts are about the nhs now. Experts are this morning warning that high dropout rates amongst nhs staff, from doctors to nurses is becoming an increasingly serious issue and has called for Health Care Workers Student Loans to be written off if they stay with the nhs. Were asking this morning is that a good idea . Well, joining us now is the political commentator lettice bramall to discuss all of this. Good morning to you. Look, it seems a good idea if you seems like a good idea if you can encourage people to stay within the sector. You know , within the sector. You know, some loyalty then will wipe out your debt. But some loyalty then will wipe out your debt. But. Some loyalty then will wipe out your debt. But. Yeah, some loyalty then will wipe out your debt. But. Yeah, i think look, on the face of this, im not sure that it really is a good idea. It doesnt really address the root problems that were having with doctors at the moment. You know, doctors and consultant are currently striking over pay rises. If you wiped out the student debt of a Junior Doctor right now, theyre really only getting back around £75 more a month , which essentially for the month, which essentially for the pay month, which essentially for the pay rise that theyre asking for this this just does not equate the real issue like youre saying is on retention here. And i do think that if you are to going go down this route, it would have to be a years of Service Agreement where theyll subsidise their training and you have to stay in the nhs for a minimum of ten years because othennise its just going to be a highly costly scheme for the government that that wont be beneficial for them. Yeah although you know, whenever we about being we talk about things being costly government, costly for the government, we actually the actually mean for ourselves. The government any of government doesnt have any of its its all its own money. Its all taxpayers money, isnt it . At the of the day. Its the end of the day. Its interesting when you talk about retention on this programme, weve deal about weve talked a great deal about the of doctors that the number of doctors that go overseas get overseas because they can get probably pay better, probably paid a pay better, Better Living conditions, all the it. Im aware of the rest of it. Im aware of this loophole whereby people are going doctors going to going doctors are going to places and places like australia and actually back their actually never paying back their student debt because theyre staying permanently. You know, you have to theres a cap at the moment. If youre there for less than five years, still have than five years, you still have to it back. Lots of those to pay it back. Lots of those people paying back what people arent paying back what we as taxpayers. We have subsidised as taxpayers. Does that need to addressed . Does that need to be addressed . Does that need to be addressed . Do you as a way do you think, as a way of stopping all jetting off stopping all of them jetting off and the nhs . And leaving the nhs . Yeah, i mean it would be a good to start currently. Good place to start currently. Student loan debt owed the Student Loan Debt owed to the government is at around £206 billion. This is astronomical and all weve heard over the last year is how the government is in a seriously precarious financial state. Covid the inflation. All of this stuff were funding huge amounts of money into our nhs , £178 billion money into our nhs, £178 billion each year. Some of this money is going to have to be being paid back in some sense and with people running off and not staying in the nhs, these are the first issues that weve got to deal with. Well, lets borowski , we have well, lets borowski, we have to leave it there. Thanks for giving us your perspective in all this. Research the all of this. The research by the Nuffield Trust think tank said that around 1 in 4 doctors are leaving nhs within two years leaving the nhs within two years and over a five year period this rises to nearly 2 in 5. So thats a signific number. Let us know your thoughts at home in all of this right. Well, were not going to get our thoughts on the rider cup. Absolutely not. Exactly our thoughts. A man whos been there, whos lived it, whos done and only that, hes done it, and not only that, hes played the winning shot. Yes. Played the winning shot. 2014, glenn eagles. Fantastic play, jamie. Jamie donaldson. Weve got jamie. Weve got jamie. Good man. Jamie. There he is. Very good to see you, jamie. Very good to see you, jamie. Nice to see you both. Thank you very much for having me. Oh, a pleasure. A pleasure. Its great to relive with you, especially as we get into were on the eve of everything starting again. How did paul said you played that winning shot . Did that winning shot . No, no. Did you win that for europe . Did that change your life . Did that change your life . Um , it certainly did for me, um, it certainly did for me, yes. You know, its something yes. You know, its something that you never going to forget in a hurry. That you never going to forget in a hurry. Its an absolute wonderful thing to play in a ryder cup to be on a winning team. Is incredible. And to be in a position to put the icing on the cake, as they say, was something very special that wont wont be forgotten very quickly. Quickly. Jamie, was it on your mind, though . Because i imagine when the singles when you see the list of singles and when you start and where the score was before you went out to play keegan bradley, were you thinking, hold on, theres a chance that this could be me, this could be down to me . This could be down to me . Well, was more paul well, it was more Paul Mcginley the night before. Hes mcginley the night before. Hes going around telling everybody what number theyre going to play what number theyre going to play in the singles. Um, and he and he , he shouted out, hed and he, he shouted out, hed say, henrik, youre one, justin two. And you just go down like this. And he got down to ten and said, right, jamie, thats you. Ten, youre anchor roll. It ten, youre an anchor roll. It came down to me and my first ryder cup. Its probably going to down to you. So get to come down to you. So get ready. So he kind of planted the ready. So he kind of planted the seed in the back of my head. So when it did come along, i was ready. Ready. I got to you. I mean, ive got ive got to ask this because i know its the typical sports question. Its the sort of thing you probably get asked all the time. But there you are. Youre on the 16th. Youve got this, what it, 146 yards to the what is it, 146 yards to the pin. What earth is going pin. What on earth is going through mind . Are you just through your mind . Are you just thinking, get this thinking, ill just get this close could be the shot close or this could be the shot and the whole worlds watching me. Ill tell you. Be on my mind. Am i going slice this bit . Am i going to slice this bit . Its amazing what goes and its amazing what goes through head like through your head before, like moments um, but moments like this. Um, but i think at the time it was a perfect yardage at a perfect flag position because my shot bad shot with that club was slightly left the pins on the right and the wind is down off the right. So at the time i felt like i couldnt fail. I mean, even before you going into the shot, you know, youre nervous because you , like, you would be because you, like, you would be on every shot in the ryder cup because every shot is like coming down the last to win a tournament. So theres incredible pressure on every single shot you play. Um, its single shot you play. Um, its just that i had all these things in my favour and of course i was four up with four to play and so it was a case of hitting the ball well and line and, and thats what it did. And so to thats what it did. And so to that extent where it finishes a foot from the hole, you never know until you get a bit closer to the green. But to walk down and see it there was just um , and see it there was just um, incredible feeling. Wow well but talking about incredible feelings as the fates conspired and for you to hit that, that winning shot, really and but let me ask you this. And but let me ask you this. Playing in a major or playing in the ryder cup, which is which is the ryder cup, which is which is the biggest honour, which is the biggest thrill. Biggest thrill. The biggest thrill is playing in the ryder cup. The biggest, um, goal for any golfer would be to win a to major win a major is the is the best thing you could possibly do. But as an experience , um, is definitely experience, um, is definitely playing in the ryder cup. Its just like nothing else. The nerves that and the adrenaline that goes through your body walking to the first tee is just, you know, something that youll never experience in any other golf tournament. Um, so yeah, just for that feeling that adrenaline walking to the first tee, uh, its like youre going into battle, like going into war. Youre incredibly nervous, but at the same time, your adrenaline is like youre ready to boxer walking into a boxing ring. Its just like nothing else. Else. Oh, god, im pumped up already for. For tomorrow. But. But tell me about the difference between because obviously being a solo sport, generally golf. A solo sport, generally golf. But its very important this whole team ethic, isnt it . Its been said about america. Theyve never really had it like europe. So what difference does it make . And how does it make you play better when youre within a team like that . Like that . Its huge in europe have always had it. Europe, europeans , when they come together. Um just really get on very well. Just really get on very well. And weve always done it in a ryder cup format. You put 12 guysin ryder cup format. You put 12 guys in a room that are all used to playing together and you know, europe is much as a team, theyre much they just get on better generally at europeans, if you go into a regular tournament and you might go down for dinner in an evening, if youve not got anybody to go out for dinner with, therell be somebody else to go out. Its a very friendly environment and that all comes together in that Team Environment and the ryder cup. I mean, america have cup. I mean, the america have never that as much. The last never had that as much. The last one, all started come one, they all started to come together. Got on together. They all got on better, which, you know , it was better, which, you know, it was a, you know, a deadly combination for success for them because they won by a massive margin in the last one. Um, but the europeans have always had that. And you know, and the americans are starting to get on better. A little bit of a worry better. A little bit of a worry now correct me if im wrong, jim. It was it was Paul Mcginley, wasnt it was the captain at the back then in 2014, how did he or how does your coaching team, how did they spur you on . How did they raise your Blood Pressure . How did they get you all pumped up . There must have been tricks of the trade. Um , just the fact that youve um, just the fact that youve , youve looked at it from being a kid for so long, building up to playing in a ryder cup and, you know, i used to watch seve and a laugh about all the time and a laugh about all the time and suddenly youre in the team room and theres an ollie is a vice captain. You sat with him round a table, uh, after youve watched him say, jimenez, watched him and say, jimenez, who another vice captain and who is another vice captain and you just sitting there chatting to just totally to them, and its just totally surreal. But walking to the surreal. But walking to the first tee, the last thing you saw we saw at the time walking out of the locker room was a massive picture of seve. Um, and massive picture of seve. Um, and i think the message said Something Like he just looking straight at you and it said , straight at you and it said, look into his eyes, his vision is clear. And that was the last image you had as you left the locker room walking onto the practise and it just sent shivers down your spine and you were ready. Yeah, yeah. Were ready. Yeah, yeah. Even now its the spirit of seve, isnt it . We know about this. Theres a thats what i do when you come on in the morning. Just, you know, thats how i just, you know, thats how i psych myself up with you. Yeah, thats it. Yeah, thats it. And finally shot. Then and finally that shot. Then i know a plaque, wasnt know there was a plaque, wasnt it . Did they have to move the plaque gleneagles because plaque on gleneagles because people up to people were actually going up to the hit that the point where you hit that final because theyre final shot because theyre all trying do same thing . Trying to do the same thing . It was. They put it in yeah, it was. They put it in the middle of the fainnay in the exact position, and they told me that everybody was dropping that everybody was just dropping a ball and trying to, you know, replicate think replicate the shot. So i think theyve to tee theyve moved it to the tee box now, but sure it wont stop now, but im sure it wont stop people from hitting it. Jemmy america are the holders usa holders. What do you usa are the holders. What do you think europes chances think of europes chances of winning cup. Winning back the cup. Um, if you asked me three months ago, i would have said its going to be very difficult. And id say that america were going to win. Now id say its pretty even. Our rookies are strong. The boat, theyre all playing, theyre playing well. Um, know, mcintyre um, you know, mcintyre and hoggard already won round hoggard have already won round that golf course. Uh, ludwig berg is an incredible talent, so id say that europe is going to win, but itd be very tight and it would be by 1 or 2 points, right . Right . Right. Okay. By 1 or 2 points. Thats going to be that close. Im looking fonnard to the person thats coming out ten on the final day wearing the donaldson hat. Yeah a good one for your Football Team last night as well. Ive got Jurgen Klopps teeth on the front page of the sun today because apparently the theory is you can grow with japanese scientists have worked out where you can grow your own teeth. No, really . Yeah. Teeth. No, really . Yeah. Well, i love Jurgen Klopps. Well, i love Jurgen Klopps. Well, i love Jurgen Klopps. The face of that, though. The face of that, though. The face of that, though. Yeah. Im not sure he was. Yeah. Im not sure he was. Could have been. Could have been written. Could have been written, could have been. Jamie, absolute pleasure to talk to you. You. Thank very absolute pleasure to talk to you. Indeed. J. Thank very absolute pleasure to talk to you. Indeed. Youvek very absolute pleasure to talk to you. Indeed. Youve put very absolute pleasure to talk to you. Indeed. Youve put us ery absolute pleasure to talk to you. Indeed. Youve put us all much, indeed. Youve put us all in the mood now. Stay with us. Were going to be talking why prime be talking about why Prime Minister was a shark minister rishi sunak was a shark , pain over migrants , wasnt it . Pain over migrants 7 , wasnt it . Pain over migrants . Indeed. Thats in . Indeed. Thats next in headune . Indeed. Thats next in headline makers we re were going through headline makers in the company of freddie grey and emma burnell. And i think carrying on really the theme of an interview we did at theme of an interview we did at the beginning of this hour with the beginning of this hour with the father, mark prince, of a tragic victim of knife crime here in london. Emma you want to talk about gangs and gangs sending staff to prisons . This is inside the times today. Yeah, its the Prison Officers Association , which is officers association, which is the union that represents prison officers saying that too many people are getting through vetting that shouldnt be. And they are going into prisons with this sole aim of smuggling in contraband. And there are contraband. And there are theres too much corruption happening. And one of the things theyre blaming is online interview. As they say, theres not scrutiny happening at not enough scrutiny happening at that interview stage. And you i that interview stage. And you i mean, i listen to your interview with mark. I thought it was extraordinary at and, you know, people like him going into pnsons people like him going into prisons to try and help kids is the kind of children who were involved in the murder of his son. I just think thats so powerful. And then youve got this other side where people are just using the loopholes and the laxness of the prison system to make money. Yeah. And smuggle in drugs and make everything worse for those people in those prisons. And i just it just breaks my heart. Breaks my heart. Charlie taylor , whos the charlie taylor, whos the chief inspector of prisons , has chief inspector of prisons, has been making quite a few statements recently, quite confrontation statements with the government saying prisons are not fit for purpose. And we are not fit for purpose. And we had that escapee recently and actually escapes quite rare. But something that happens quite a lot, which i was quite struck by, is accidental release, where they just let someone out at the wrong time. They think that hes in something else. So in prison for something else. So they murderer they actually release a murderer thinking that hes done his his sentence. The prison sector sentence. The prison sector definitely needs to be addressed i and thank you so many of you beenin and thank you so many of you been in touch. Just summed up by penny here about mark prince. And they said, mark, such an eloquent spokesman for this problem. I agree with stop and search and more help, though. And guidance for young people. And guidance for young people. Well on that right. Shall we talk about private schools . This is really interesting. This is really interesting. Ive been sort of leading with this all week. Its sort of an early tax commitment, probably the only tax commitment that labour had signed up to. And now theyre kind of back tracking quietly. They havent openly said that theyre not doing this, but theyve kind of just stopped mentioning it. Well, the turns its a u turn. Turns out its a u turn. Its been called a u turn. Its been called a u turn. Sort of a u turn. It is sort of a u turn. I mean, they are now not going to strip private schools of their charitable and this is charitable status. And this is a point where to be pro point where im going to be pro labour on and emma is going to be against. Absolutely, because i think that private education shouldnt be punished , unlike shouldnt be punished, unlike a lot of labour ministers. I send lot of labour ministers. I send my children to state school, but i dont think that labour win any favours by sort of waging class war on private schools. I dont think i think private schools relieve the state sector. I think it would be good if private schools could be cheapen if private schools could be cheaper. Government cheaper. I think government should private should be encouraging private schools to set up, making schools to set up, not making it harder. Do you agree with labour then . Well. Well i agree with the fact theyre stripping out fact that theyre stripping out the not to remove the theyre not going to remove the theyre not going to remove the charitable status, but theyre are going theyre saying they are going to penalise to say penalise them. They have to say that on on vat. Penalise them. They have to say tha s01 on vat. Penalise them. They have to say tha so theyve. A 20 vat so theyve got a 20. 20 vat relief the moment, private relief at the moment, private schools. But theres also this argument that actually by meddling they could meddling with this, they could have consequences on have unintended consequences on vat and actually vat for other areas and actually legal challenges could arise. So they have to u turn on that they may have to u turn on that altogether. Emma i hope not. Look, if in an ideal world wed have such an extraordinary state sector that we would put private schools out of business altogether because frankly , as altogether because frankly, as freddie im sure would agree , freddie im sure would agree, working in westminster as i do, i meet an awful lot of privately educated people. And frankly, i dont know what theyve paid for, but but i am disappointed in labour saying that theyre not going to strip private schools of their charity status. Its not punishing them to say they aint charities because they aint charities because they aint charities because they aint charities. Theyre not they arent. First of all, they arent allowed to make profit. And secondly, all secondly, most in fact, all private schools have this private schools that have this exception do things in exception have to do things in their community, which benefits exception have to do things in theistate munity, which benefits exception have to do things in theistate sectorv, which benefits exception have to do things in theistate sector. Which benefits exception have to do things in theistate sector. They] benefits exception have to do things in theistate sector. They do znefits exception have to do things in theistate sector. They do theits the state sector. They do the bare minimum. Bare minimum. I dont think thats fair. I dont think thats fair. Bare minimum. I dont think. And frankly, it is a system entirely set up to ingrain inequality and if labour is for anything, its about reducing inequality. And i just dont think that we should be backtrack on measures that would, you know , it wouldnt end would, you know, it wouldnt end it because it wouldnt end private schools existing , but it private schools existing, but it would stop us pretending that they have this social benefit when actually they have huge social disbenefits but talking about unintended consequences and, you know, making it unaffordable for our hard working british families with aspirations, whatever it means that these sorts of private schools are just going to be the home really for foreign rich students from wherever it might be, russia or china. Be, russia or china. Well, quite. Well, quite. Need need more cheaper we need we need more cheaper private schools. We private private schools. We need private schools who arent schools that people who arent necessarily that can afford necessarily that rich can afford to go to. You have to be stupendously rich. Now to afford to send child to private to send your child to private school. If we had a better school. And if we had a better private sector, it would private school sector, it would give to the sector, give relief to the state sector, which is overcrowded. We which is very overcrowded. We dont schools. Dont have enough schools. Lot suggests about tax a lot of suggests about tax relief. You the people relief. You know, the people that that are taking that that do that are taking a weight off the state system and they should be rewarded. They should be rewarded. I i find it really i mean, i find it really interesting that wes streeting, for shadow for example, whos the Shadow Health doesnt have Health Secretary doesnt have a problem using the private problem with using the private sector relieve pressure sector to relieve the pressure on nhs it comes to on the nhs when it comes to private schools relieving the pressure sector. Pressure on our state sector. They penalise them. Whats the difference . Difference . Frankly, the nhs is well, i frankly, the nhs is much, much bigger than the education system. But its about not getting into this mess in the first place. I think schools should be cathedrals of learning. I think there is nothing in this world more important stunt than giving those kids a great starting chance. And not just the ones whose parents can afford to pay for it. And thats afford to pay for it. And thats what matters. Every child should have the same opportunities , and have the same opportunities, and we need to think as a society, what do we do . How do we invest in that better . Because frankly, were not doing it well enough at the moment. And for me, the idea that we should allow a certain segment of well heeled society to take their money and run is just wrong. And itjust makes the whole system two tiered. And thats what really bothers me. Okay ill tell you what would bother you if you went down to the woods today. Oh, be sure of a big surprise if you go down to the woods today, you never believe your eyes. A teddy bears picnic. And lets have a look at this one. So this was in mexico and the bearin so this was in mexico and the bear in question was a black bean bear in question was a black bear. And the black bear decides to climb up on the picnic table. I dont know why im laughing for that poor mom and her child. Theyre on her mothering. May i say. May i say. May i say. But do you think, isabel, that was do you think thats the husband who got up and took the picture . Classic. Yeah. Classic. Yeah. So while they could be eaten by a black bear, hes decided this will make a good picture. But that is your moms instinct, isnt it . To shield your child . Just to shield your child . Hold them theyre safe hold them so that theyre safe and youre quite right to point out the fact that someone has just told me it. I often think this with viral videos. Someone just videos. Why is someone just filming that and not trying to help . I mean , i dont know what i mean, i dont know what youd be doing to help. It might be that the best thing to do is stand back. Well, theres a wonderful danish film called force majeure , which is about force majeure, which is about a family who think theyre about to be in an avalanche. And the dad at the very last minute leaves the family, picks up his phone and runs off and just reminds me, no, hes just like runs off. Just just runs off. Okay. But and this reminds me so much of that because somebody is there just watching this poor , poor whos this poor, poor woman whos doing exactly the right thing, not making eye contact, not challenging in any way, making sure, because presumably sure, because she presumably knows her son wouldnt knows that her son wouldnt know not that, that his eyes not to do that, that his eyes are shielded. I believe the boy has down syndrome. Really . Mean, syndrome. Oh, really . I mean, parents of down syndrome children are incredible. Yeah, because they learn very quickly how to deal with difficult situations because down syndrome children obviously do find it difficult. But no, its amazing difficult. But no, its amazing clip but quite right. Stop filming it and start helping grab a big sausage from that table. I think that is what happened through it. That is what you spoil the story. You know, youre so like my wife. The reason why we get on, was there a necessary was it necessary to spoil that witty remark that was, oh , yes, thats remark that was, oh, yes, thats what happened in real life, as if i didnt know. But yes , dear, yes, dear. But yes, dear, yes, dear. But yes, dear, yes, dear. Get in the way of a good story. Story. And right. Where do we go next . Okay, lets go to amsterdam. Okay, lets go to amsterdam. Emma , shall we . The worlds emma, shall we . The worlds best restaurant to many emmas. Weve got to do okay. Weve got to do okay. Well, freddys chosen very serious story. So incredibly bonng serious story. So incredibly boring migrant. Thats. No, thats great. This is a big clash with the spanish. Whats clash with the spanish. Whats happened here . So rishi sunak next yes. So rishi sunak next week, theres a meeting of the european political community. Rishi sunak apparently has sort of to the sort of tried to hijack the agenda and it all about agenda and make it all about immigration. The are immigration. And the spanish are very because want it very cross because they want it to about artificial to be about artificial intelligence, which is odd because rishis been trying to claim mr artificial, claim that hes mr artificial, but that focus when but he wants that focus when it all comes london for the big all comes to london for the big conference autumn. All comes to london for the big confer he5 autumn. All comes to london for the big confer he doesntltumn. All comes to london for the big confer he doesnt want. All comes to london for the big confer he doesnt want spain to so he doesnt want spain to steal his moment there. Exactly. And why exactly. And its more why what they call negative positive headunes what they call negative positive headlines for the tories because there is a migration crisis in europe. I mean, everybody saw what happened in lampedusa. What happened in lampedusa. Theres a theres a huge, huge waves of migrants coming into europe at the moment. It is a crisis. Meloni is very concerned about it. In italy. I think a lot of people will be thinking rishi sunak right to make that the priority at the moment. But you cant change the agenda of a conference like a few days before. I mean, ive organised conferences, they take months months the months and months to get the right speakers, get the right, you of the you know, all of the organisation around that to suddenly turn a week before suddenly turn up a week before and actually, and go, actually, lets completely agenda completely change the agenda is its just grandstanding. , possibly. I mean, i well, possibly. I mean, i think migration was on the agenda and i think sunak wants it higher up. It to be higher up. But again, like, you know, thats you have conferences at the the spectator. You know the at the spectator. You know how these things work. They are theres Hard Working Team theres a very Hard Working Team making this work behind the scenes someone to up scenes to someone to come up with spectator. With the spectator. I would like it pointed out that he said that not me. You can grandstander, you can firefight. And it might be, you know, they may have to know, the what they may have to be doing at the moment though artificial i do artificial intelligence. I do think we both think that is the big danger. No, im listening to this fascinating audiobook at the moment, which is comparing the rise of states corporations and artificial intelligence. Artificial intelligence. You see artificial intelligence. Im fed up turning on my phone or listening to two voicemail messages and theres a voicemail messages and theres a voice which just doesnt sound real, right . And it goes. And this woman says all the time, before , are you listening to before, are you listening to your messages . It would be a goodidea your messages . It would be a good idea to leave a voice. Your voice. Im good idea to leave a voice. Your voice. Im thinking its not a good idea. Now go away. Leave me alone. Oh, i know. Leave me alone. Oh, i know. Every time we get a recorded voice, but ai is just going to be fraught with irritations, i think. I mean, this at the moment we are irritated by it. I think the more complex questions are how much were threatened by it. Well, im being threatened by my tonight to in the my producer tonight to in the next five seconds to say goodbye to you two guys. Thank bye for great pleasure, as always. Im sure it is to be sure it is. Im sure it is interesting. Im sure it is interesting. The pleasure is all ours. Oh, is that what i was supposed to say . If only i had time to tell you all the stories i want to do anyway. Jonathan vautrey is whats happening after agnes the storm. Whatever. Here we go. Storm. Whatever. Here we go. Hello there. Very good morning to you. Im Jonathan Vautrey. Who is your gb news . Weather provided by the Weather Forecast provided by the met office after providing some of with quite a windy day of us with quite a windy day yesterday, storm agnes is now clearing its way off towards the north, but isobars north, but those isobars are still spaced still quite tightly spaced together, going to together, so its still going to be a fairly breezy, blustery day for of us. The rain for the majority of us. The rain across slowly across the far north slowly easing off for a chunk easing off and for a good chunk of there be some dry of us, there will be some dry intervals to be had, fair intervals to be had, a fair amount of cloud around, though. So any sunshine probably on the hazier side, temperatures perhaps down a touch compared to yesterday, generally around 17 to 19 c. But thats pretty much where we should for be this time in year as we head into the in the year as we head into the Late Afternoon and evening, well start to see this area of rain way in from the rain push its way in from the west. Some pulses for west. Some heavy pulses for parts of Northern Ireland, western even western scotland, maybe even into areas of into wales and Western Areas of england or gradually england as well, or gradually shifting its way eastwards throughout the night. Behind that, some clearer that, we do see some clearer intervals developing still with some persisting some showers persisting across the where those the far north west where those clearer do occur, clearer intervals do occur, temperatures drop that temperatures will just drop that down slightly, bit more, 10 or down slightly, a bit more, 10 or 11 c, a milder start across 11 c, but a milder start across the southeast as this rain gradually its way off. Gradually clears its way off. But much england and but for much of england and wales, be some wales, there will be some sunshine be had throughout sunshine to be had throughout the pleasant. The day and relatively pleasant. Some , though, persisting some showers, though, persisting for Northern Ireland. Scotland might into might fringe down into north west of england as well. Temperatures here still 16, 17 c. But in the more sunshine across southern areas of england, temperatures back up to 21 c. England, temperatures back up to mcmw england, temperatures back up to 21 c. High pressure holds on into saturday, but there is further areas of rain as we head into sunday. By by jonathan , into sunday. By by jonathan, thank you very much indeed. So wave. Wave. A very good morning to you. A very good morning to you. Its just gone 9 00 on thursday, the 28th of september. And you are watching breakfast on gb news with Eamonn Holmes and isabel webster. Well, its very, very nice to have with us. Have you with us. However youre with us. And heres what weve been covering so far this morning. Tributes are being paid to a 15 Year Old Girl whos been stabbed to death on her way to school in south london. The government has told us here on breakfast theyre not ruling out a out of widespread stop a roll out of widespread stop and tackle and search powers to tackle knife. Knife crime. Certainly not against im certainly not against that. Weve got there are powers there and local Police Forces can use them when necessary, when there are issues on the ground. Ground. And weve also been running an exclusive interview this morning with the mayor of Greater Manchester, andy burnham, talking about how he wants to clean up manchesters air. Doing that, though , without air. Doing that, though, without the london model ulez style charging zone. Charging zone. Finally, after 40 years of routes. Being cut of fares going routes. Being cut of fares going up five the people of Greater Manchester and how the bosses of the buses, its the other way around. Coming up, a reduced 20 mile per hour speed limit in wales has triggered a backlash from drivers and commuters. The bus drivers and commuters. The bus operator, arriva , says their operator, arriva, says their services have been impacted , services have been impacted, too. Our reporter jack carsons been following it for. Us been following it for. Us yeah, its 400,000 people signed a petition calling to revoke the new 20 mile an hour speed limit in wales. The deputy Climate Change minister, lee waters, survives a no confidence vote in the senate. Ill have the for from the latest for you here from wales and Jonathan Vautrey will have your latest forecast for you from agnes is now clearing away, but theres still some changeable weather on the cards as we head throughout the rest of this week. Join me later for all the details. We will look fonnard to that. Jonathan, thank you. Youve been good getting in touch with us today. Thank you for that. Well reflect what youre having to on all sorts of subjects. To say on all sorts of subjects. Gb views the gb views. Com or you can tweet at gb news as. You can tweet at gb news as. Knife crime. Big thing that weve been talking about today and weve had some very poignant interviews on that subject. Interviews on that subject. Were going to show you the scene in croydon about this time yesterday morning and this is what it looked like. Well, what happened . Oh well, what happened . Oh sorry. Stop, somebody got stabbed. Yeah, just now. Just now. A school girl . Now. A school girl . Yeah. School boy stuff. Yeah. School boy stuff. Yeah. School boy stuff. You know, you can hear the disbelief in that voice, but people dont expect on their way to work or college or whatever they were going to do yesterday. That you know, at 8 30 in the morning, somebody would be dead in the centre of croydon, having been stabbed. Been stabbed. Yeah. Yeah. And this is so often a gang related, its so often young males. This time a girl, 15 males. This time a girl, 15 years old in her School Uniform, stabbed to death with a machete. Shes been named locally as euana. Shes been named locally as eliana and witnesses say she was getting off the bus with a group of friends when she was attacked. Its believed there had been an argument with a boy who tried to give one of the girls some flowers that boy is 17 years of age , is believed to 17 years of age, is believed to have been known to the victim , have been known to the victim, and he was arrested shortly after she died. Shes been described as very comedic with a Bright Future ahead of her. Well, chief superintendent andy britton appealed for those with information to come fonnard i this is every parents Worst Nightmare. And i know the officers who responded this morning , along with our morning, along with our Emergency Service colleagues , Emergency Service colleagues, are devastated at the victims death. This is an emotion i share and i know people across croydon will be feeling the same. The victims family has been informed and our thoughts are with them at what must be an incredibly difficult time. Incredibly difficult time. Well, as fatal stabbings in england and wales remain at a record high, weve heard calls for more stop and search powers from the police. But is that the answer . Throughout the morning , answer . Throughout the morning, weve been discussing the issue with experts and parents, including a former met Police Officer, a government minister, andindeed officer, a government minister, and indeed mark prince. Mark prince, his teenage son, kai, was stabbed to death 17 years ago. And indeed, Queens Park Rangers football stadium was renamed from loftus road to be kai stadium. Be kai stadium. As soon as i found this news out yesterday , that was my day. Out yesterday, that was my day. Finished. Yeah, i was just stuck just like this. All i could picture was the parents, the family , the little girl, the family, the little girl, the same as my boy. What was her last moments like . What was the thoughts . The kind of fear was going on in her poor little girl, man , do you want to see more . Stop and search . Stop and search . Im certainly not against that. Im certainly not against that. Weve got there are powers that. Weve got there are powers there and local Police Forces can use them when necessary. When there are issues on the ground. We need to get these ground. We need to get these knives off the street. I think lots of people feel as though stop and search. Is that kind of intervention , this that kind of intervention, this method that does create so much controversy that they are looking for alternative methods because its so caught up in a political storm. People dont want to refer to it so often and sadiq khan in 2015 said that he wanted to clamp down on stop and search with all of his power. And been a kind of and thats been a kind of a political back forth ever since. I dont want our police doing social work. I dont want i dont want our police doing social work. I dont want our police doing what they so often Call Community engagement. Theres two communities they need to engage with. Number one, victims of crime and number two, purple craters of crime. Nothings been done. And you seeing these things happen live crime epidemic now. So were having a knife crime pandemic. I talked about this happening the after khan died that this is what youre going to have if you dont put something in place. Its very emotional listening to mark prince. To mark prince. And we now go to former gang member and anti knife crime activist Mark Bracewell on all of this. Mark, good morning to you. Very sad that were having to talk about this again. And it must be very desponding for you and, you know, i dont know if it puts you off or it reinvigorates you in the pursuit of fighting knife crime. Of fighting knife crime. Good morning. Eamonn. Yeah, good morning. Eamonn. Yeah, yeah. Again were sat here and were discussing about a Young Persons life that was cut short way too early. Um and as you say , what does it do . Does it make you want to put it down and leave it alone or walk away because you feel nothings happening . Nothings changing . Or you want to just or does it make you want to just fight that, that, that extra, that it, that little bit that bit of it, that little bit extra . And for personally, it extra . And for me personally, it just makes me to get more just makes me want to get more involved and speak out more and, and trying to come up with answers together with answers and Work Together with people the same people that that have the same objective as we do. Objective as what we do. Yeah. Eamonn and i both as parents this morning have put ourselves in the shoes of this 15 year girls family. Ourselves in the shoes of this 15 year girls family. What 15 Year Old Girls family. What they must be going through, and weve about things weve talked a lot about things from victims from from the victims perspective weve talked a perspective and weve talked a lot things from policing lot about things from a policing perspective. Want hear perspective. But i want to hear from somebody who was from you as somebody who was himself of a gang, himself a member of a gang, walked around london with weapons. I believe you lost your eye in a knife attack. What are eye in a knife attack. What are the social issues , issues around the social issues, issues around why you got involved in that and how we stop it . Yeah , i mean, it wasnt it yeah, i mean, it wasnt it wasnt london, it was in manchester. But yeah, i was involved in gangs as i was growing up as a teenager, and i did carry a knife because i felt scared for my life and because of what people were carrying knives. And thats why i did knives. And thats why i did carry knife. Later on in my carry a knife. Later on in my years, i did become a victim of knife crime. And you say, i knife crime. And like you say, i lost eye. I was stopped in my lost my eye. I was stopped in my face in my um, and face and in my neck. Um, and obviously at that point it was like need to change, you like things need to change, you know . Um, but reason why know . So um, but the reason why i kind of knife like i said, i was a teenager and i knew other people were carrying knives. Um, and i think then it wasnt, it wasnt as prevalent as it is now. Its, its happening even more and more and more. Um, and not only is it children who are scared , its also becoming scared, its also becoming a trend. Its becoming trendy to carry a knife and, and unfortunately, yes, we have to report it. But the unfortunately, yes, we have to report it. But the more we unfortunately, yes, we have to report it. But the more we speak report it. But the more we speak aboutin report it. But the more we speak about in an area, the more children are getting scared and the more theyre picking up knives to try and protect themselves. Themselves. So how do you i mean , is this so how do you i mean, is this about not trusting the police . If people scared and they if people are scared and they dont that the police are dont think that the police are going protect them , is this going to protect them, is this about parenting that parents about parenting that the parents arent kids at home arent keeping kids at home where can be safe . Is where they can be kept safe . Is it about all of those things or is education . Maybe is it about education . Maybe i think its about all of them combined, you know, so every every different child who picks up a nice has a different story to tell. And if we dont come at it from all different angles with people from all different areas, then we aint going to solve this. Going to be able to solve this. Like i said, it has to be teamwork. It has to be. It has to be the police. Has to be school has to parents. It has school has to be parents. It has to be prison. It has to be, um, people like myself and people like like as well. All like youre like us as well. All coming and coming up coming together and coming up with a solution together. Not one has the answer. We one entity has the answer. We have Work Together. Have to Work Together. So weve done many interviews. Unfortunately mark, with situations like this all terribly shocking and then we all ask, whats the answer . Whats the solution . And we hear from you as to what you believe the solution is. I just get the feeling its never going to happen. Its never going to be joined a lot of people be joined up. A lot of people arent enough. And arent going to care enough. And there will be people who are in full time jobs who may see all of this through. But politicians come and politicians go , go. And there politicians go, go. And there just doesnt seem to be a joined up philosophy about all of this or policy that is true. Or policy that is true. Um, but then these people arent myself and im not the only person like that you spoke to earlier today who obviously campaigns himself. Theres so many people that have been victims of knife crime that campaign themselves and if we have to create our own network between each other, if the government aint going government aint to going step up what needs to be done, up and do what needs to be done, then us as people need to do what to done because we what needs to be done because we need to protect our children. I have a younger child. I have a three year old son and i dont want in another ten years time for to worse. Needs for it to be worse. It needs to get better and people like get better and these people like myself, like i said, we will go out there and do what needs to be done, whether we get help or not. Well, we wish you the very best your mission, and we best with your mission, and we hope are able to make hope that you are able to make those all so those changes that we all so desperately to see. Mark desperately need to see. Mark bracewell, gang member bracewell, former gang member and anti knife and now anti knife crime activist , appreciate to activist, appreciate talking to you this morning. You. Thank you, mark. Thank you. Thank you, mark. Thank you. Thank you, mark. Thank you. Thank you, mark. Thank thank right thank you. Thank you. Right right. Over right. So to wales, just over a week ago, this 20 is plenty speed limit came into operation and now one of waless biggest Bus Operators say that 20mph limit is causing ing challenging operational control actions that will force it to review routes and review timetables. While the Welsh Government has imposed this ban or the speed limit , i should say for speed limit, i should say for most roads in wales, which has triggered a huge backlash, even Mark Drakeford saying that hes experienced Death Threats since bringing it in. And its also led to a huge petition calling for the limit to be scrapped with over 400,000 signatures as well. Well. Lets go to jack carson , lets go to jack carson, whos turned up a bit late this morning because he could only go maximum 20 miles an hour to get to his destination. So tell me, to his destination. So tell me, jack, youre in mould. Okay. Jack, youre in mould. Okay. So wales, is it what are things looking like from there . Things looking like from there . Well, certainly. I mean, you well, certainly. I mean, you do certainly notice coming from england, especially this morning when you do start to drive through wells, drive through those rural areas, those villages that of course, up until days ago were 30 miles until 11 days ago were 30 miles an hour. You notice that an hour. You do notice that dramatic to mile an hour dramatic drop to 20 mile an hour is when you are driving down those and of course, those roads. And of course, as you it had big you mentioned, it has had big backlash the country. Backlash across the country. Were mould here this morning were in mould here this morning in were at a bus in north wales. Were at a bus station because of river wales. Of now having look at of course, now having to look at rishi scheduling their possible departure and arrival departure times and arrival times for their buses across the country course , this country because of course, this reduced limit. Were reduced speed limit. Were joined here with rowlands, joined here with sam rowlands, whos member of the senate whos the member of the senate for wales. Sam this for north wales. Sam this 400,000 people petition that have signed that, what do you think that says about the feeling across this country with this speed limit . This new speed limit . Think it shows real well, i think it shows a real frustration and the way thats been rolled out. First of all, and itself. And and the measure itself. And whats interesting about whats really interesting about that nearly that 400,000 mark now, nearly 450,000 actually, is that thats that 400,000 mark now, nearly 450,morerctually, is that thats that 400,000 mark now, nearly 450,more people is that thats that 400,000 mark now, nearly 450, more people have at thats that 400,000 mark now, nearly 450,more people have signed s that 400,000 mark now, nearly 450,more people have signed that now more people have signed that petition in wales than petition here in wales than people labour at people who voted for labour at the senate elections. So the last senate elections. So theres a real strength of feeling of frustration at the government feel like feeling of frustration at the governrnott feel like feeling of frustration at the governrnot being feel like feeling of frustration at the governrnot being listened like feeling of frustration at the governrnot being listened to. A theyre not being listened to. I mean, walters , whos i mean, leigh walters, whos the Climate Change the deputy Climate Change minister this welsh minister in for this Welsh Government, no government, he survived a no confidence vote that youd put in against him last night, but hes only following labour hes only following the labour manifesto only kind of manifesto and hes only kind of doing what promised they doing what labour promised they would were elected again. Yeah, and thats the line that labour party here in wales like to use. Lets not like to use. But lets not forget their manifesto its forget in their manifesto its just nine words reference just nine words that reference the blanket speed limit the 20mph at blanket speed limit here in wales. So within a deep manifesto, nine words, im not sure thats quite where most people were looking when theyre looking to vote in a government here in wales, i would expect any decent government to the any decent government to put the effort and to see effort in to engage and to see what feeling is amongst what the feeling is amongst people than hanging people rather than just hanging on within manifesto. So yeah, i mean, in terms of what you were proposing, mean, what you were proposing, i mean, if you were in power, would you just scrap the mile an hour just scrap the 20 mile an hour limit because limit completely because there is in some is some support for it in some areas, particularly around maybe areas, particularly around maybe areas where there there are lots of of of pedestrians, smaller kind of close together, high streets and schools so schools particularly. So if youre what would youre in power, what would the welsh youre in power, what would the we|yeah, weve said all along it yeah, weve said all along it makes complete sense to have 20mph those places where the 20mph in those places where the risk that. So outside 20mph in those places where the risk schools, that. So outside 20mph in those places where the risk schools, perhapsoutside 20mph in those places where the risk schools, perhaps outside those schools, perhaps outside hospitals, high streets hospitals, as busy high streets absolutely makes sense to have 20mph areas, as 20mph in those areas, not as a blanket limit across blanket speed limit across wales. Already said that wales. Weve already said that we, if into power at the we, if elected into power at the next in we would next elections in 2026, we would reverse measure of 20mph reverse that measure of 20mph and everyone will be 30 again, unless those places that need it at 20mph. Unless those places that need it at iiimph. Were at this i mean, were here at this bus station this morning. Of course, know the river wells course, we know the river wells having to look at rescheduling their that their timetables. Is that a worry, across the worry, do you think, across the country people delivery country that people delivery companies, are companies, bus services are having to reschedule because of this 20 mile an hour is this 20 mile an hour limit . Is that that impact across that is that an impact across the that youre seeing . The country that youre seeing . Its real world yeah, its a real world impact that were warning the impact that we were warning the government about. Well before they into place. They brought this into place. Bus say, bus companies, as you say, having change their having to change their schedules, care workers having to their schedules. And to change their schedules. And what numbers what Welsh Government numbers actually it will cost the actually show it will cost the economy £4. 5 billion, having it in place , its having a real in place, its having a real world impact on businesses up and wales at the moment. And down wales at the moment. Its enough, but, but its not good enough, but, but the government would say the Welsh Government would say that, you know, 20 is plenty and that, you know, 20 is plenty and that you are that actually we if you are saving because how many saving lives because of how many accidents happen under 30, particularly if youre particularly in wales, if youre saving just saving lives, is it not just a price pay to go a little bit price to pay to go a little bit slower to know that youre possibly saving life that possibly saving a life and that we balance risks every single day in everything that and day in everything that we do and more actually lost on more lives are actually lost on much faster roads than on 30mph roads, all lives being lost. Roads, all lives being lost. Its a situation. Its a sad situation. Absolutely. The argument, i guess, 20mph. Will guess, is 20mph. There will still be serious injuries at 20mph. So serious accidents at that speed. So why not be ten Miles Per Hour . Why wont it be five miles hour . We choose a five Miles Per Hour . We choose a speed based on the risk speed limits based on the risk and that were in. And the situation that were in. 20 is not a situation for people in wales are happy with at all. All right, thank very all right, sam, thank you very much this morning. Of course, we did ask the Welsh Government for a statement, of course, on particularly those impacts with the they said the buses in wales. They said that been from the that weve been clear from the outset that we would monitor any impact an hour on impact of the 20 mile an hour on bus and say bus services and they say theyre working closely bus theyre working closely with Bus Operators authorities operators and local authorities and wales to and transport for wales to tackle the challenges that the industry facing. Industry is facing. Thanks, jack. Thank you. Appreciate. Appreciate that. And should say that arriva and we should say that arriva in their full statement say were undertaking a large scale review of the network which will require a combination of additional resource changes to frequencies and changes to routes to improve punctuality so we can better serve our customers right at coming up. This is what a famous author wrote about one of his most successful books. If ever. They remembered a their life in this world. It was, as one remembers, a dream. Who was the author . A dream. Who was the author . What was the book . Find out after this and were going to talk now about a very collectable £0. 50 piece issued by the royal mint. And it will be based on the lion , the witch and the wardrobe by cs carol. Okay, so give it away in case you were guessing after our teas. Then, which the book was. Then, which the book was. Oh yes , thats what we have oh yes, thats what we have to tell you that, yes. C. S oh yes, thats what we have to tell you that, yes. Cs lewis was the author and the book was the lion, the witch and the wardrobe. So anyway , so this was wardrobe. So anyway, so this was an original illustration from the book, and were now going to dr. Michael ward , who is an dr. Michael ward, who is an engush dr. Michael ward, who is an english literary critic and a theologian, and he is the author of the Award Winning planet narnia. The seven heavens in the narnia. The seven heavens in the imagination of cs lewis. Very imagination of cs lewis. Very good to talk to you, dr. Good morning, eamonn thanks for having me. Not at all. Do you know . C. S having me. Not at all. Do you know . Cs lewis was a neighbour of mine . Well, he wasnt exactly. I mean, he obviously was dead and i wasnt, but anyway, i lived in belfast and his house is two doors away from me with , with a blue plaque on me with, with a blue plaque on it and it always and theres so much history with cs lewis connected to belfast because youre a theologian and he aslan the lion was was based on a knocker off the vicarage of the local the local church and its there ive seen it, ive been it and ive knocked on doors. Lambs face. Lambs face. Yeah, yeah yeah, yeah theyre there as well. Yeah, yeah yeah, yeah theyre the so is well. Yeah, yeah yeah, yeah theyre the so howll. Yeah, yeah yeah, yeah theyre the so how did god play a big so how did god play a big part in what he wrote and high interpreted things . Yeah interpreted things . Yeah c. S interpreted things . Yeah cs lewis was a christian and one of the reasons he wrote the narnia books was to steer the past watchful dragons that might othennise inhibit religious responses. He said , oh, explain. Responses. He said, oh, explain. What does that mean . Well he said that in his own childhood he had always felt it difficult to feel about the christian story the way he was told he ought to feel an obligation to feel can freeze feelings, he said. And so if you strip the story of its stained glass and sunday School Associations and cast it into a magical world, then perhaps you might be able to make people just respond with the appropriate emotions when theyre not expected to feel certain ways that was one of his intense, but quite aside from that, he was just wanting to write a good story that could be enjoyed. Whether or not you pick up on the christian symbols. Um, thing i find about um, the thing i find about his books, theyre not just kids books, am i right or wrong . I mean, they thought the mean, they were i thought the illustrations and illustrations were amazing and they draw you in. And this whole concept out there would be concept out that there would be a wardrobe that would give you children love it. A portal to another world. A portal to another world. You see, michael smiling at the very thought of that. But his books , theyre theyre on his books, theyre theyre on various levels not just for children. Children. Yeah thats right. Children. Yeah thats right. They there yeah thats right. They there are seven books and its highly appropriate that the royal mint have decided to go with a 50 piece, which is, of course, seven sided and in my own work on cs lewis and his theological imagination, i discovered that there are seven books because there are seven books because there are seven heavens in the mediaeval cosmos. Lewis was a medievalist. He taught here at oxford for 30 years. He finished his career at cambridge. He was a very distinguished mediaeval literary critic and literary historian and the seven heavens, which give us the names of the days of the week he regarded as spiritual symbols of permanent value. And thats what he used value. And thats what he used to structure each of the seven chronicles. Gosh, do you think the royal mint are even of the mint are even aware of the meaning of seven of meaning of the seven edges of the £0. 50 piece . I hope so. I like to think that they are so what were seeing in that 27. 3mm illustration in colour on a £0. 50 piece, ive never seen a colour. Mr £0. 50 piece, ive never seen a colour. Mr tumnus and lucy walking through the snow. The two characters, of course, from the book. Will you be getting the book. Will you be getting the coin . A commemorative coin . The coin . A commemorative coin . Oh, yes, ill be getting it and ill be putting it alongside the recently released tolkien coin. You know that c. S the recently released tolkien coin. You know that cs lewis and tolkien were great friends and tolkien were great friends and colleagues here at oxford and colleagues here at oxford and the royal mint earlier this year out a £2 coin to year brought out a £2 coin to commemorate the 50th anniversary of tolkiens death. So ill be of tolkiens death. So ill be putting them alongside each other, i think very good. Dr. Ward. Wed love to have more time to talk to you, but unfortunately , the clock has unfortunately, the clock has beaten us. Thank you for giving us a brief insight into all those fascinating things crashing my to crack it crashing my appetite to crack it open , read it my kids. Open, read it with my kids. Ive only actually it ive only actually watched it on them so far. On tv with them so far. Dr. Ward is the author of planet narnia speaking to us there oxford. There from oxford. Thank you very much indeed. Thank you very much indeed. Thats us for this thats it from us for this week. Well back week at week. Well be back next week at 6 00 monday morning. But up 6 00 on monday morning. But up next, youve got andrew and emily. First of all. So heres your weather. Hello there. Very good morning jonathan morning to you. Im Jonathan Vautrey. Your gb news vautrey. Who is your gb news Weather Forecast by the Weather Forecast provided by the met providing some met office after providing some of us with quite a windy day yesterday, storm agnes is now clearing off towards the clearing its way off towards the north, isobars are north, but those isobars are still tightly spaced still quite tightly spaced together, going to still quite tightly spaced toga her, going to still quite tightly spaced toga fairly going to still quite tightly spaced toga fairly breezy, going to still quite tightly spaced toga fairly breezy, blustery to still quite tightly spaced toga fairly breezy, blustery day be a fairly breezy, blustery day for the majority of us. The rain across the far north slowly easing for a good easing off and for a good chunk of us, there will be some dry intervals be had. A fair intervals to be had. A fair amount of cloud around, though. So probably the so any sunshine probably on the hazier temperatures hazier side, temperatures perhaps compared to perhaps down a touch compared to yesterday. Around 17 yesterday. Generally around 17 to but thats pretty much to 19 c. But thats pretty much where we should be for this time in the year as we head into the Late Afternoon and evening, well see area of well start to see this area of rain push its way in from the west. Some heavy pulses for parts ireland, parts of Northern Ireland, western even to western scotland, maybe even to wales Western Areas wales and Western Areas of england or gradually england as well, or gradually shifting its way eastwards throughout behind throughout the night behind that, some clearer that, we do see some clearer intervals developing still with some persisting some showers persisting across the north west those the far north west where those clearer do occur, clearer intervals do occur, temperatures just that temperatures will just drop that down slightly, a bit more, 10 or 11 c, but a milder start across the as this rain the southeast as this rain gradually clears off. Gradually clears its way off. But for much of england and wales, there will be some sunshine to had throughout sunshine to be had throughout the relatively pleasant. Sunshine to be had throughout the showers latively pleasant. Sunshine to be had throughout the showers ,itively pleasant. Sunshine to be had throughout the showers , though, leasant. Sunshine to be had throughout the showers , though, persisting some showers, though, persisting for Northern Ireland. Scotland might fringe into the might fringe down into the northwest england as well. Northwest of england as well. Temperatures still 16, temperatures here still 16, 17 c. But in the more sunshine across southern areas of england, temperatures back up to 21 c. England, temperatures back up to mcmw england, temperatures back up to 21 c. High pressure holds on into saturday, but there is further areas of rain as we head into sunday. But by. Well, good morning. Morning. Morning coming up, knife crime of course, this horrendous stabbing of this 15 Year Old Girl. Devastating. Were going to be asking whether stop and search needs to be more widespread. It should be. And that will, of course, cause a huge round with the usual suspects, but good them. And were also good for them. And were also talking, chris hopes, going to an with the an exclusive interview with the mayor manchester. Mayor of Greater Manchester. And indeed also 20mph in wales indeed and also 20mph in wales causing a few problems , not causing a few problems, not least for the public transport network, but well let you know whats going on there. Why does the party hate motorists . It does seem that way. It does way, yes, please does seem that way, yes, please stay tuned for britains newsroom. With me, emily carver and the lovely andrew
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