Manhunt underway for a former british soldier whose escaped from wandsworth prison. 21 year british soldier whose escaped frondanielsworth prison. 21 year british soldier whose escaped frondaniel abad. I prison. 21 year british soldier whose escaped frondaniel abad. Kaliefl. 21 year british soldier whose escaped fron daniel abad. Kalief wasyear old daniel abad. Kalief was awaiting trial on charges related to terrorism and the official secrets act. Its understood he escaped from a kitchen and clung to a food delivery van just before 8 00 this morning. And was last seen wearing a chefs uniform. Hes wearing a chefs uniform. Hes of slim build, has short brown hair and is around six foot two. An alert has been issued to uk ports and airports amid reports of long queues at border points and extra security. Commander dominic murphy, head of the mets Counter Terrorist command, says the police are doing all they can if officers and staff from across london and Counter Terrorism policing. Terrorism policing. So across the country, as is normally the case in these matters , we have published the matters, we have published the details of daniel kalief to officer colleagues around the country and borders, colleagues as well. Our intention here is to try and find him as quick as possible. I believe very strongly that he presents a low risk to the public, but nonetheless, he is an individual who was on remand and should be in custody. And were doing everything we can to try and in custody. And were doing everhim g we can to try and in custody. And were doing everhim asve can to try and in custody. And were doing everhim as quicki to try and in custody. And were doing everhim as quick as try and in custody. And were doing everhim as quick as possible. Find him as quick as possible. Minister has the Prime Minister has defended funding decisions defended his funding decisions on he was on schools while he was chancellor in the wake of the crumbling concrete crisis. He chancellor in the wake of the crunrespondingrete crisis. He chancellor in the wake of the crun responding toe crisis. He chancellor in the wake of the crun responding to questionse chancellor in the wake of the crun responding to questions from was responding to questions from the labour who visited the labour leader who visited one schools which have one of the schools which have been ordered to fully or partially close by. The Prime Minister rejected a claim that he cut budgets for school repairs, saying he actually raised by 20. Well earlier raised them by 20. Well earlier the government published the long awaited of schools long awaited list of schools that been affected. And that have been affected. And dunng that have been affected. And during keir starmer during pmqs, sir keir starmer blamed the scale of the problem on conservative government failures. This crisis is the inevitable result of 30 years of cutting corners and botched jobs sticking plaster politics. 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This is gb news across the uk , this is gb news across the uk, on tv, on Digital Radio and on your Smart Speaker to just say play gb news now its time for. Michelle thanks for that, aaron. Im Michelle Dewberry with you still 7 00 tonight alongside me , ive got the leader of the me, ive got the leader of the heritage party, david kirton, and the journalist Quentin Letts. Good evening both letts. Good evening to both of you. You know the drill as well you. You know the drill as well. Its not just about us three. It is very much about you guys at home. Whats on your mind tonight . Can in touch. Tonight . You can get in touch. Vaiews gbnews. Com can vaiews gbnews. Com or you can tweet me at gb news already. Youre not happy with me. Its only 6. 5 minutes past six, but ive upset quite a few of you already on one of my topics that ive got coming up, which is i want to talk to you about those dogs, those american xl bullies. I put a picture up at the start of the program and i was asking whether or not the breed should be banned. Theres been calls for lots of you are for it to be so lots of you are not happy. Saying not not happy. Youre saying do not blame dog. Michelle that dog blame the dog. Michelle that dog is absolutely gorgeous. These breeds gorgeous dogs. So breeds are gorgeous dogs. So youre telling me youre going to have to work a little bit harder to convince me . Ive got to say, someone saying this to say, someone else saying this is bad owners, but the is all about bad owners, but the owner of a cockapoo would far owner of a cockapoo would be far less dangerous than the bad owner of an xl bully. Apparently he was. Some of my viewers are saying that its about the ego of the owner that would make people get some of these types of dogs. Im fascinated to hear from you as well. Ill be speaking to a behavioural psychologist, a dog behavioural specialist about how specialist as well, about how true that is, about whether its a dog the owners. Also as a dog or the owners. Also as well, i want talk to you well, i want to talk to you about safe your house is about how safe your house is when it comes burglary, but when it comes to burglary, but before i get into any of that, i must off with tonights big must kick off with tonights big story. Have heard about story. Have you heard about this . Is an urgent manhunt this . There is an urgent manhunt underway for a prisoner has escaped from wandsworth prison. Lets straight to the chase lets cut straight to the chase and i shall cross live to our home and security editor mark white. Mark, good evening. Please bring on viewers please bring on my viewers straight speed. We well, straight up to speed. We well, it is now a nationwide wide manhunt thats underway. Manhunt thats underway. Were hearing about some six significant congestion and delays at some of the main ports and airports out of the uk, including dover , heathrow and including dover, heathrow and gatwick. As the Security Services have thrown a security blanket around those ports of exit to try to ensure that this escaped prisoner does not get out of the country. The search out of the country. The search for the time being is being concentrated around london. This young man escaped just before 8 am. This morning and has links, were told, to the kingston area in south west london, not that far, really from wandsworth pfison far, really from wandsworth prison in south west london. However, police say it is perfectly possible that he may have escaped outside london. He has also got connections to the north west of england a little earlier i was speaking to the head of Counter Terrorism command here at scotland yard, commander dominic murphy, who told me just what unfolded at 750 this morning. So around 750 this morning, daniel cliff , who this morning, daniel cliff, who is a man who was on remand following a Counter Terrorism investigation, escaped from wandsworth prison and is currently at large somewhere in the uk and in terms of how he escaped , were told that he was escaped, were told that he was wearing chefs paraphernalia, chefs uniform , um, and that he chefs uniform, um, and that he may have clung to the underside of a food delivery truck. Is do you know that to be the case . Well, i can say that he was, yes. Wearing chequered red and white trousers and a White T Shirt and brown boots when he escaped from prison. As to how escaped from prison. As to how he escaped, thats entirely a matter for the Prison Service. Clearly, it will form part of our investigation. Thats a matter for the Prison Service. Well there was some some negative , significant negative, significant information there from commander murphy really about this individual, the fact that while he was wearing that chefs uniform, as you heard, we understand, according to the police , that he did actually police, that he did actually work in the kitchen at the prison, which is an indication clearly of how he came about this uniform. It wasnt just given to him by another prison, but what the commander was not able to confirm for us is what ive heard from other sources is that this young man clung to a delivery food delivery vehicle after it came to wandsworth prison. And as it was leaving the jail, he clung to, we think the jail, he clung to, we think the underside of that vehicle as it left the prison. It left the prison. Mark when was the alert raised . So when . Because i see now that theres calls for everyone to stay vigilant, keep your eyes and your ears open and all the rest of it, but you say this happened at 750. This morning. So when did it become Public Knowledge . Farage well, it became Public Knowledge in terms of the metropolitan police alerting us and everyone else at mid afternoon when it actually was was revealed to the Prison Services , is that one of their services, is that one of their prisoners , a man due to stand prisoners, a man due to stand trial on terrorism charges , had escaped . We dont know. Theres still we dont know. Theres still quite a few unanswered questions. The commander could only go so far in what he was able to tell us and said that really these are matters for the Prison Service in terms of when exactly they knew about the escape and how he was able to escape and how he was able to escape in the first place. Clearly part of that has been answered by confirmation that this this young prisoner was working in the kitchen. So he got his chefs paraphernalia from there. But did that give from there. But did that give him access to other areas . Probably not. But if that food delivery truck was right up at the kitchen , you can then the kitchen, you can then probably see why he was close enough to the food delivery truck to be able to attach himself to it. But yes , quite himself to it. But yes, quite how long after he escaped the Prison Service is became aware of that . We dont know yet. Its one of those key unanswered questions. Questions. Michelle. Yeah, indeed. Final question. I mean, this prisoner was previously, i think, held in belmarsh, transferred at some point to wandsworth. Is he a risk to the public . Do people need to be concerned and or not . Well, what the commander said to me with regard to that is he said, obviously , he knows this said, obviously, he knows this young man through Counter Terrorism command and the investigation that they launched into his alleged offending, hes charged with a hoax bomb incident. He also is charged with trying to elicit information that could be of use to terrorists and also offences under the official secrets act. However, the commander does not believe that he poses a significant risk to the public. Having said that, hes clearly , having said that, hes clearly, you know, an alleged offender facing a trial determined to get away. So the advice of the pubucis away. So the advice of the public is not to go near him. But if anybody sees this young prisoner, then they are to call 999. As a matter of urgency. Thank you. Fascinating stuff. Thank you. Fascinating stuff. Mark white. Quentin, i do find this fascinating. So this fella this fascinating. So this fella got out of prison apparently about 8 00 this morning, then becomes Public Knowledge. So everyones got to keep their eyes peeled for him at some point in the afternoon. So were talking about six hours gap. I mean, hes not going stand mean, hes not going to stand around taking selfies for hours on going hes on end. Hes going to be hes going to gone. This is quite going to be gone. This is quite remiss, isnt not . Remiss, isnt it not . Yes, surprising it took yes, its surprising it took so embarrassing for the so long. Embarrassing for the governor for the governor embarrassing for the prison embarrass Prison Service, embarrass thing for no doubt the for politicians, no doubt in the long authorities will long run, the authorities will be looking at this suspects network of friends and family and the allegations against him are serious. They need to be tested in a court of law and you would have thought he would be as keen to have them tested as anyone else, given he is innocent until proved guilty and it is got a feel. Its got a slightly Old Fashioned feel to it. This is an Old Fashioned news story. The sort of thing that used to happen in the 1960s with were would with people who were would escape from prison, almost like something out of porridge, isnt it . Well, it is. These things do happen very rarely. Apparently theres been five prison escapes since 2017 and fewer than 20 since 2017 and fewer than 20 since 2010. David, your thoughts 7 since 2010. David, your thoughts . Yeah, its extraordinary. Ive never heard a story like this thats given been given so much Mainstream Media attention. Mean , yes, say theres i mean, yes, you say theres been prison escapes , but i been other prison escapes, but i guess, you know, he a very guess, you know, he is a very high concern prisoner because of the charges hes facing. But, you know, its like something out of a movie almost, isnt it, the prison break or something clinging to the underside of a delivery vehicle . I mean, one of my view is steve, hes got in touch, says michelle. I was a prison officer for 30 years. He said hes going to give a bit of insight into give me a bit of insight into how it all works. He said when a food arrives in prison, food vehicle arrives in prison, it including the it searches, including the driver. Its escorted to driver. Then its escorted to the kitchen prison the prison kitchen by prison staff. Whilst being staff. And whilst being unloaded, of staff is unloaded, the member of staff is responsible of responsible for the security of said before vehicle said vehicle before the vehicle leaves the kitchen secured area. The kitchen are then the kitchen staff are then responsible a roll check responsible for a roll check of the prison prisoners he the prison kitchen. Prisoners he says this is a diabolical lack of professionalism and security. Ive got to tell you, steve, therell be people certainly panicking today about whether or not theyve done their jobs properly. Im enough to properly. See, im old enough to remember , although i look 21. Remember, although i look 21. You do not look it. You do not look it. I know im old enough to remember of raoul remember the manhunt of raoul moat do remember that . I do moat. Do you remember that . I do that the most quite that was one of the most quite recent know. What did you think i was about to say . Im old enough to remember the 19 1840 John Stonehouse case. I the these these news stories, they have. The trouble is that they have a certain glamour to them. But these are serious matters. And there is a danger that we as journalists can sometimes glamorise the people involved. But. The viewer people involved. But. The viewer who is saying that, who was making very important points about the security checks and the procedures , has the normal procedures, has everything done that would everything been done that would normally be done . It were normally be done . And if it were not done, why not . Obviously, the answer not done, why not . That obviously, the answer not done, why not . That inobviously, the answer not done, why not . That in part� usly, the answer not done, why not . That in part atly, the answer not done, why not . That in part at least, answer not done, why not . That in part at least, muster to that in part at least, must be no , because if youre doing be no, because if youre doing your call, you must realise your roll call, you must realise if prison officer is if that prison officer is telling your checks, telling me you do your checks, have got all your staff have you got all of your staff appointed allocated for appointed for and allocated for before the van leaves . Clearly the answer that. This is the answer to that. If this is the answer to that. If this is the escape route chosen is obviously no. The answer is no, well, if the answer is no, then what was the reason for that . With that . And was it to do with sloppiness . Was it to do with cuts . It with cuts . Was it to do with complicity . See. Well, you say cuts. I give you about five minutes before rishi indeed for rishi sunak is indeed blamed for this one. Hes not been this one. If hes not been already. The real that already. But the real thing that i he didnt i referenced, 2010, he didnt escape prison, obviously, escape from prison, obviously, but he did go on hunt on the but he did go on the hunt on the run. It lasted about two days and it was two quentins point glamorous up doing it glamorous itv ended up doing it like dramatisation of that like a dramatisation of that awful. So i do think as awful scenario. So i do think as like the public psyche, we do seem to be kind of quite gripped to notions of manhunts and to the notions of manhunts and all the rest of it. Yeah, because these days yeah, its because these days the and entertainment have the news and entertainment have got some kind of crossover. So people sometimes , you people watching sometimes, you know, dont see the difference between two if its been between the two if its been presented in a certain way. Obviously this case, with obviously with this case, with raoul it was you know, it raoul moat, it was you know, it seemed like something out of a movie. You have things in books and stories all the time. So when happens in reality, when it happens in reality, people relate that to people just relate that to a story. Story. And the weirdest thing and then if anyone was following that , that live the real thing, that, that live the real thing, do you remember the gascoigne, the , the fishing rod, the fishing, the fishing rod, the fishing, the fishing rod, the chickens, the dressing gowns . I will never forget any of that. It was all very odd. Anyway, look, that is the story of what we know so far of that prisoner. That is escaped from wandsworth prison. We are across that story in details of anything evolves, anything changes it. You will be the first know. But look after first to know. But look after the break, weve got a packed agenda. I want to talk to you about politics in country. About politics in this country. So is and i am so much is broken and i am blaming a lot it on short blaming a lot of it on short termism , sticking plaster termism, sticking plaster politics, whatever we want to call it. If you agree with me, how do we fix that . You tell me your listening to gb news radio. Radio. Hello there, im Michelle Dewberry keeping you company until 7 00 tonight alongside me, Quentin Letts and david kurten remain. You guys are getting in remain. You guys are getting in touch. Remain. You guys are getting in touch. Know its eye opening touch. Know its eye opening stuff. Youre telling me about the prison protocols. Russell the prison protocols. Russell has just been in touch. One of my previous viewers was explaining how works about explaining how it works about the kitchen trucks, delivery trucks leaving. He says , trucks leaving. He says, michelle, you missed a bit. Trucks leaving. He says, michelle, you missed a bit. The michelle, you missed a bit. The vehicle, the kitchen vehicle is also searched before leaving the prison. Its searched in its entirety , so who knows whats entirety, so who knows whats gone on . Im sure that all the details will come out in time. If youre just tuned in, youre wondering what on earth im talking about. Im talking about the fact that weve had a prisoner escaping from wandsworth morning. Wandsworth prison this morning. Well details on well have all the details on that manhunt as it happens. But politicians, talk to politicians, i want to talk to you about them, i may, you about them, if i may, because weve problems now because weve got problems now all place. The latest all over the place. The latest scandal is, of course, the concrete scenario. Know within schools, finger schools, lots of finger pointing, lots of whose fault is it . Of why can i not get it . Lots of why can i not get credit for doing a bleeping good job from education secretaries and the like . It got me thinking, quentin, because so many aspects of politics in this day and age, i feel that theres way too much focus on how do the politicians get themselves re elected to short term thinking and not enough long term Strategic Thinking and planning , term Strategic Thinking and planning, not just on term Strategic Thinking and planning , not just on concrete, planning, not just on concrete, but you can have it right across the nhs. I will blame this on the nhs. I will blame this on that as well. Some of our energy suppues that as well. Some of our Energy Supplies failings there. Nick clegg of course, ive got a clip of him. At some point, nick clegg gosh. Nick clegg yeah, who was he . Well, yeah. I mean, weve had weve had quite a few goings since havent goings on since then, havent we, i remember him. We, sir nicholas i remember him. Hes making a balls up of facebook now. In fact, you that clip in fact, i show you that clip actually before i before bring actually before i before i bring quentin in, ive got his clip. Nick clegg. Sir nick clegg. Sir nick clegg. Lets a look. Yes. Lets have a look. Yes. Lets have a look. Youre concerned about youre not concerned about your scenarios from your optimistic scenarios from the government itself . Way theyre going there is no way theyre going to have nuclear come on to have new nuclear come on stream until about 2021, 2022. To have new nuclear come on str thats clegg how do we miss him . I think youre wrong, actually, on this, michelle. I do think youre wrong because the implication of what youre saying, short termism is a bad thing. The implication of that is you want to have longer terms of office and im not sure that that would go down very well. I think five years. Thats not thats. No, thats not such a good idea, it . And also, we good idea, is it . And also, we do a long Term Government do have a long Term Government in its called the in this country. Its called the civil and the Permanent Civil Service and the permanent secretary in any department will be the civil servant. And thats why you have the Civil Servants in way, because they meant in a way, because they are meant to institutional memory. To be the institutional memory. Theyre meant to people theyre meant to be the people who accountable as well as who are accountable as well as the politicians. However, it doesnt quite work like that because the Civil Servants tend to also they to move on a bit and also they tend to not get blamed very much. But the servants, much. But the Civil Servants, when on a beach or when theyre not on a beach or wherever it is that they are, they are, theyre enactors. Are not the deciding. They are not the deciding. Theyre strategic kind theyre not the strategic kind of orientations what were of orientations of what were trying and you. Trying to achieve. And you. They actually. Yeah, they are actually. Yeah, they are actually. Are to a point and they are up to a point and actually theyre behind actually theyre probably behind the than the scenes more powerful than you other villains in you think. The other villains in this michelle, ones this piece, michelle, the ones whove it so far whove got away with it so far are the architects. Thats and you know, the modern architects, the concrete ones, the modernist, modernist modernist, the modernist architecture all Architecture Movement is all gang gang busters about gang goes big gang busters about anything thats new, newfangled is great. The trouble with new fangled is it hasnt been tested and therefore theyre always pushing onto us. New Building Techniques which lo and behold, then a few years later turn out to be no good and the great bias among the commentariat is against it. For instance, Victorian School buildings, Victorian School buildings, Victorian School buildings are still standing. Theyre a lot better than those that were put up in the 70s and 80s and 90s. Well let me bring you in, david, your thoughts. Yeah, absolutely. I do agree with you on that. On the older buildings, the victorian buildings, the victorian buildings, georgian buildings and built and so on are built fantastically magnificently and so on are built fant theyilly magnificently and so on are built fantthey have magnificently and so on are built fant they have suchagnificently and so on are built fant they have such a nificently and so on are built fant they have such a humanity and they have such a humanity about them theyre about them and theyre far better these things that better than these things that were thrown up in the 50s and 60s, 70s, 80s with term 60s, 70s, 80s with short term planning. So there was no long planning. So there was no long term planning there because these buildings, understand these buildings, as i understand , only have 30 year life cycles anyway. Theyre meant to last for 30 years and then thats it. So the whole buildings, i think this element of this building component, that is what component, i think that is what is now understood about a 30 year life span. Yeah, but but also these buildings often put up by buildings were often put up by the architects with very the architects with a very political agenda driven by a sort of architectural marxism , sort of architectural marxism, which is, lo and behold, its turning out not to be such a great thing. Well, arent we all surprised . Well, you see, that is the long termism. There is long termism, but a lot of it is to adhere to marxist principles, if you like. There theres no thinking about the long term. You know, durability of the buildings. People are buildings. But people are actually progressing with a marxist agenda, a cultural marxist agenda, a cultural marxist the united marxist agenda. The united nafions marxist agenda. The United Nations 17 Sustainable Development goals, the paris climate agreement, net zero, all of those things which all of the main Political Parties in westminster are signed up to for the long term. I completely disagree with that. You concluded me wrong, by the way, because what you concluded saying much concluded, im saying too much short termism is a bad thing. And you said therefore , what you and you said therefore, what you think suggesting is longer think im suggesting is longer term governance. Thats not what im would im suggesting. What i would suggest we need suggest is perhaps we need to look a where we take we look at a model where we take we strip out some of the crucial components within our society. I dont know. Lets say social care or elements of the nhs or even the nhs in its entirety, if you like, and you then have cross Party Working for a Long Term Strategy. Dodi and that is term strategy. Dodi and that is the strategy that whoever the government of the day is elected to enact this longer to be, they enact this longer term as mutually agreed. You do actually get quite a lot of cross party work in parliament, but the idea that things such as social policy and education policy would never be political is i dont think thats realistic and youll get ministers coming in because ministers coming in because ministers will define themselves and they will sell and they they will sell themselves as political creatures. And actually the electorate wants that. And thats what we quiver to. Thats what gets our hindquarters moving. I wouldnt want that either. I wouldnt want every single party to be signed up to an agenda behind the scenes , which agenda behind the scenes, which is going to enacted without is going to be enacted without anybody having say at the anybody having a say at the ballot about whats going on. Matt says. There is a Long Term Strategy. Michelle and its all about a Long Term Strategy for managing our decline. And you saying hats off to you were saying hats off to them. They are doing a superb job that happen. Job of making that happen. Its a success story. Its not its not optimistic is our matt, i dont think cheer up on some of that. Jenny says we need ten Year Parliaments so that the Civil Service know what the policy is. That basically it will all come to fruition and we will have results within the same parliament. Ten years . No, absolutely not. The Civil Service are supposed to do what the government tells them to do. The government needs to be elected and they need to be elected and they need to be elected regularly. So that if they go wrong, people have a chance to get rid of them. A ten Year Parliament will mean we still years of still have four years to go of theresa may being Prime Minister. Well, chris says michelle, youve read our minds. My hubby and i were talking about this just other day theyve just the other day and theyve come with a theyve come up with a plan. Theyve seen step me. Seen it one step beyond me. Theyre saying energy security, nhs defence, taxation. That should all be taken out of the government of the day. Cross party as i was suggesting. But they do confess that left them with a question, which is if did that, what on earth if you did that, what on earth would government then take control would government then take conand i dont think the voters and i dont think the voters want that. Voters want to want that. The voters want to have a say, a regular say on matters such as social policy and and hospitals. They and school and hospitals. They want to have a say. Want to have a say. The trouble is now youve got four parties that are essentially doing same essentially doing the same thing. Well, thats what thing. Yeah, well, thats what areas that may because they areas that may be because they think the public is. I mean, is. I mean, im sure it is. I mean, im sure it may be difference, maybe just failure difference, maybe just a failure by political elite. By the political elite. Yeah. Yeah. You say you say that your and you say you say that your four parties are trying four main parties are trying to make difference, but youre make a difference, but youre trying to do something different. The first past different. But on the first past the reality whether the post, the reality is whether its, fortunate or its, you know, fortunate or not, have different views not, people have different views on system. Whilst weve on our system. But whilst weve got the post, its got first past the post, its very for new party very difficult for a new party to actually cut through, isnt it . It is difficult, you know, but to make the but weve got to make the challenge. Weve got to keep going and try to make a change. You agree that . Do do you agree with that . Do you do you vote for . Who you who do you vote for . Who would you vote for next would you vote for in the next election . It is a small election . And if it is a small kind up and coming party, do kind of up and coming party, do you put your cross in the box thinking, yeah. Do you know what . Is a reality . Perhaps what . This is a reality . Perhaps this is has realistic this is has a real realistic chance into fruition this is has a real realistic ch do e into fruition this is has a real realistic ch do you into fruition this is has a real realistic ch do you just into fruition this is has a real realistic ch do you just sit into fruition this is has a real realistic ch do you just sit thereo fruition this is has a real realistic ch do you just sit there andiition or do you just sit there and think theres just no point at all . Its either going to be labour or tory, as is a system that not a lot of love that we have not a lot of love coming through. Have to say, coming through. I have to say, for Civil Servants. Are you out for Civil Servants. Are you out there . Are there any Civil Servants watching this . Are you watching the conversation and saying stop, always kicking us, lets celebrate us . Do you sit there echoing perhaps there saying, echoing perhaps there saying, echoing perhaps the gillian keegans of the land, saying youre always land, saying that youre always kicked of being kicked instead of being supported when you think youre doing a good job, get in touch. Id fascinated to hear from id be fascinated to hear from you lots coming up. Want you lots coming up. I want to talk about dangerous talk to you about dangerous dogs, not they should talk to you about dangerous dogbanned not they should talk to you about dangerous dogbanned in not they should talk to you about dangerous dogbanned in somet they should talk to you about dangerous dogbanned in some cases. Should talk to you about dangerous dogbanned in some cases. Royald be banned in some cases. Royal mail, be forced to mail, should they be forced to keep saturday deliveries . Keep their saturday deliveries . One of my viewers has said saturday deliveries, get saturday deliveries, we only get three deliveries a week as it is. Tell me your thoughts radio. Hi there. Michelle dewberry till 7 00. The leader of the heritage party, david caton, and the journalist Quentin Letts alongside me, lots of the ladies are liking you, quentin. Tonight thats very sweet of them. Thats very sweet of them. They are. Cathy lindsay, just to name two. Ive had a lot of nice feedback. Lindsay might be a bloke. Lindsay might be a bloke. Oh, yes, that is a very good point. Well cathy might be as well. Who knows in this day. And age, i shouldnt be so presumptuous, should i . Martin says. Completely presumptuous, should i . Martin says. With completely presumptuous, should i . Martin says. With aboutpletely presumptuous, should i . Martin says. With about shorty agree with you about short termism. A solution as termism. Hes got a solution as well. He says we need a 25 year plan for country, a vision plan for the country, a vision that signs up all that everybody signs up to all the population and the the population and all the Political Parties, and then each elected government would be responsible the deliverables responsible for the deliverables that within their five year that fall within their five year window that is that the solution . Quentin is not having any of that. It sounds like albania and communist 25 year plans. Enver hodja martin, i dont think he agrees with you. Statues of sir keir starmer in the central square. Royal mail. Should they be forced to keep saturday deliveries . Apparently now theyre trying to look at scrapping them. If they do scrap them, they reckon it could save them. About £225 million. As i was going to ask, what about us customers . But actually so my views are getting in touch with me saying that saturday me already saying that saturday delivery a delivery channels would be a fine thing. Theyve had fine thing. Theyve not had them for some time. One of my for quite some time. One of my viewers that they get three viewers says that they get three deliveries a week. Didnt deliveries a week. You didnt tell you live, though. Deliveries a week. You didnt teldo you live, though. Deliveries a week. You didnt teldo get you live, though. Deliveries a week. You didnt teldo get in you live, though. Deliveries a week. You didnt teldo get in touch. Ive, though. Deliveries a week. You didnt teldo get in touch. Let though. Deliveries a week. You didnt teldo get in touch. Let me ugh. Deliveries a week. You didnt teldo get in touch. Let me know so do get in touch. Let me know where are opposed to where you are as opposed to everyone supposed to have six everyone is supposed to have six deliveries a week. This is part of their obligation. If anyones written to you. Obligation. Yes. Lyones written to you. Obligation. Yes. Yeah. S written to you. Obligation. No. Yeah. S written to you. Obligation. No. Yeah, 5 written to you. Obligation. No. Yeah, youitten to you. Obligation. No. Yeah, you might you. Obligation. No. Yeah, you might beu. Mainly. Yeah. But they are, you know, important and correspondence. But i dont get letters much anymore. Personal anymore. Like from personal letters. Get emails. Letters. I usually get emails. They that way. But they come through that way. But yeah, obviously that yeah, obviously i think that they should to keep they should be made to keep saturday deliveries. I mean, they in a bit of a mess. They are in a bit of a mess. Well, always had it and well, weve always had it and were desperate receive on were desperate to receive on a saturday that cant wait were desperate to receive on a satimondayat cant wait were desperate to receive on a satimonday for. Cant wait were desperate to receive on a satimonday for. Imant wait were desperate to receive on a satimonday for. Im not wait till monday for. Im not desperate receive anything, desperate to receive anything, but i think something that but i think its something that weve had. I think its weve always had. I think its a service weve had and its service that weve had and its a we keep. A service that we should keep. And theres other ways that they a service that we should keep. And gozres other ways that they a service that we should keep. And go aboutther ways that they a service that we should keep. And go about it. R ways that they a service that we should keep. And go about it. Rectifyingt they can go about it. Rectifying their financial situation. Actually, theyre putting the price of a first class stamp up by £0. 15 on the 2nd of october from £1. 10 to £1. 25. If theyre doing that, that would give them enough money to get out of the black hole theyre in straight away. So why do they need to reduce saturday services as well . 7 the . The managers of 7 the managers of royal mail are oceangoing ing clunkers. They are really useless if you are if youre if your customers think youre not doing a very good you dont reduce the good job, you dont reduce the service, increase it. They service, you increase it. They shouldnt be scrapping saturday deliveries they should deliveries. They should be introducing deliveries. Introducing sunday deliveries. They should be leaning into this and saying, were going to make things better. Want things much better. People want to modern day and to have in this modern day and age, they want to have parcels delivered a week and delivered seven days a week and therefore, this is a time therefore, its this is a time to ramp it up and the postage of this country are generally pretty brilliant. The problem is pretty brilliant. The problem is not with them. Its to do with not with them. Its to do with the managers, some of whom are paid too much. But also theres just a lack of imagination. And the inability of royal mail, which fantastic privileged which has a fantastic privileged position in the delivery world, the inability of that company to take on the private Delivery Companies is one of the worst failures of business. But i think what theyd look to do is stop the saturday letter delivery and then perhaps look to scale up their parcel deliveries , make the parcel deliveries, make the parcel things seven day a week, cut back the letter deliveries, because at the end of the day, what letter do you desperately need nhs appointments, need your nhs appointments, things like that . No, but you things like that . No, but you dont need that on a saturday. Well, you might do. And surgeries should be working seven week i mean, seven days a week too. I mean, society is now a seven day a week operation only in parts of scotland. I think stornoway perhaps you have sunday perhaps do you have sunday closed down and youve got to really be reflecting the realities of the world if youre going to run a successful business or people can just stop writing to you. Why does the nhs need to write . You a letter on a bit of paper . Theyll probably have your mobile telephone number. Why just send you why cant they just send you a text say, this your text and say, this is your appointment have appointment date . They have a lot elderly people are lot of elderly people who are not thus equipped. But. But youre that elderly youre assuming that elderly people messages people cant read Text Messages or phones. Or dont have mobile phones. That there is still a i think that there is still a problem. Youve got to ensure communication and equity of communication. Can because well, you can ask because i get letters and they drive get nhs letters and they drive me insane. I dont want them send me a text. So why dont you ask customer, patient to ask the customer, the patient to opt yeah, sure. Opt in . Yeah, sure. You want how do you do that . Yeah, by all means. But also if youre delivering, if youre delivering parcels, whats so difficult putting letter difficult about putting a letter in with it . No, they do. They often no, they do. No, they often do they often do it do it. They often do it separately. I do want to give a quick shout before go to quick shout out before i go to the to my moms the weather, though, to my moms postman in hessle is absolutely awesome. A £10 tip awesome. I gave him a £10 tip the other day because he delivered to mum letter delivered to my mum a letter that put completely that id put the completely wrong address on. Some of our wrong address on. So some of our purses, worth purses, they are worth their russell in gold, russell in herefordshire as well. Russell russell. Brilliant anyone you want out to you personally . Yeah, my postman. Thank you for delivering my mail all the time. Well six days a week. Are you that got in and who are you that got in touch with me . Who is that viewer you only get viewer that told me you only get three per week . Want to know three per week . I want to know where you live in this where do you live in this country . And speaking of the country, it is a scorcher up and down at the moment, isnt it . Lets at weather. That warm feeling inside oh, that warm feeling inside from boilers. Proud from boxt boilers. Proud sponsors of weather on. Gb news. Sponsors of weather on. Gb news. Hello again. Its aiden macgibbon here from the met office with the gb news forecast. A warm, sultry night to come. For many of us, more hot sunshine on into thursday, a small chance of thunderstorms developing wing towards western and southWestern Areas in particular as low Pressure Centre adds heat and humidity northwards across the uk. Now any thunderstorms that do develop will be very hit and miss, quite isolated , mostly miss, quite isolated, mostly towards Western Areas overnight. But there is the chance that these thunderstorms will contain frequent flashes of lightning. So they could be quite visible in the night sky where they do occur. Cloud creeping occur. Some low cloud creeping into east. Its a warm night into the east. Its a warm night for many mid to high teens and in places no colder than 20 in some places no colder than 20 or 21 celsius. So some patchy fog about first thing thursday , fog about first thing thursday, some of this misty low cloud in the east, but that will tend to retreat to north sea coasts. And retreat to north sea coasts. And for many its a fine day, but weve still got that potential thundery activity moving north into Northern Ireland and parts of scotland. By the afternoon. And its very warm or hot day and its a very warm or hot day in places 29 to 32 celsius in the south, 28 celsius for northern scotland. So the heat northern scotland. So the heat is extensive across the uk and its a warm start to friday. Again, some of that misty low cloud in the east. Again the threat of thundery showers towards the west and southwest, but otherwise its just a case of sunny skies and the temperatures continue to rise up to 33 celsius in places by saturday. That warm feeling inside from boxt boilers proud sponsors of weather on. Gb news. Well, there you go. Its an absolute belter, isnt it . Finally, at last , it absolute belter, isnt it . Finally, at last, it carol absolute belter, isnt it . Finally, at last , it carol says, finally, at last, it carol says, i only get three deliveries a week and we have done for a long time. We live in rural kent, she says. Time. We live in rural kent, she says. Lots of you getting in says. Lots of you getting in touch, frank says, my son has to pick his post up from the sorting office. 400 yards away. Why i dont understand that. Doesnt he get a delivery . Is he missing he not home . Missing it . Is he not home . I need more details, frank, as to whats going on with your sons life and his post. Please write. Very that i need very important thing that i need to to you about. Its going very important thing that i need to very ou about. Its going very important thing that i need to very random,t. Its going very important thing that i need to very random, but� s going very important thing that i need to very random, but bearng very important thing that i need to very random, but bear with to be very random, but bear with me. Have you seen a christmas gnome . To your i gnome . Next to your house . I might have picture. I dont might have a picture. I dont know i get you a picture. Know if i can get you a picture. I will. If youve seen this gnome, you might think, well, thats little bit weird. You thats a little bit weird. You might. Just turn a might. I dont know. Just turn a blind and walk past it. But blind eye and walk past it. But im here to warn you that if you see things, you have be see these things, you have to be vigilant. Because apparently see whats now, criminals, whats going on. Now, criminals, theyre marking out whats basically that basically the properties that theyre perhaps theyre going to try and perhaps try arm burglary later try their arm at burglary later on these gnomes. Theyre on with these gnomes. Theyre popping on with these gnomes. Theyre popping around place. Popping them around the place. Yeah what theyre doing yeah i think what theyre doing is putting them in is theyre putting them in peoples front yards and seeing if picks up because if anyone picks them up because theyre rubbish, which theyre a bit of rubbish, which you youre at home you would do if youre at home and seeing then who not at and seeing then who is not at home, is on holiday. Home, who is on holiday. A sort similar advice its a sort of similar advice that you might give, like make sure things dont stay sure these things dont stay there. That you dont there. Make sure that you dont leave mail around because thieves for houses thieves look for houses which have pile up of mail have got a big pile up of mail because then they oh, because then they see, oh, someones not home. Someones not at home. These fees are getting yeah, these fees are getting very sophisticated, they . Very sophisticated, arent they . Gnomes . Garden gnomes . Yeah, i suppose. To say suppose. Im not going to say anything against gnomes anything against garden gnomes that lies. But it that way. Death lies. But it always used to be said as well. Specific ones, christmas ones. Specific ones, christmas ones. Right. So just a normal right. Okay. So just a normal gnome like a normal one. Need not worry. Random fishing one in your garden. Dont think thats too garden. I dont think thats too suspicious. Suspicious. Thats a christmas one. Thats a christmas one. But they always used to be said that the most popular magazine or publication at wormwood scrubs was country life because had tremendous because it had tremendous spreads of big posh country houses and you could see all the valuables on display listed, even, you know , that work by even, you know, that work by matisse in the drawing room. And so fingers always used to read that and then go and nick it. Its the same principle. Well, you dont even need that magazine these days because what a of people do and let what a lot of people do and let me just clear, by the way, i me just be clear, by the way, i dont burgling dont condone anyone burgling anybodys one anybodys property. It is one of, if you ask me, one of the worst crimes that you can commit to somebody into to somebody going into somebodys and thinking somebodys home and thinking that the that somehow youve got the right through their right to rifle through their possessions, turns my possessions, it it turns my stomach. It makes my skin crawl. But there are some people out there who cannot help themselves. But boast about their possessions, their material wealth all over instagram and social media. And then i dont know if theyre just dopey or what, because after boasting about their rolexes and this and that and the they then five the other, they then five minutes later they are minutes later post that they are on yeah which is i on holiday. Yeah which is i dont want you to get broken into obviously but dont you put two and two together. Yeah. Yeah. I mean it shouldnt be that way but thats the way life is. There are some bad people who will take advantage of you if you let them take advantage of you. I mean, its like, you know, youre in the pub, you know, if youre in the pub, you leave wallet on the table leave your wallet on the table and toilet. You and then go to the toilet. You come your wallet is going come back, your wallet is going to be gone. So the answer is, dont leave your the dont leave your wallet on the table. A similar thing. You table. Its a similar thing. You know, the way know, its just the way the world is. I put on social world is. So if i put on social media, if i put a picture of my wifes knickknacks, then they might get stolen. Idea think that i i think idea i think that i call what i call knickknacks might be slightly different to what a knickknacks. What you call a knickknacks. You put picture of and if you put a picture of your knickknacks on what . Your wifes knickknacks on what . I you mean knickknacks. I think you mean knickknacks. I dont i mean knickknacks. I dont mean i dont mean anything else. I dont mean anything vulgar trouble, archie. Clean. Michelle out of clean. Michelle staying out of this to talk to you this one. I want to talk to you about dangerous after the break. The xl bully breed of dog. The xl bully breed of dog. Should that be banned or not hello there, dewbs co with me. Hello there, dewbs co with me. Michelle dewberry tl7, leader of the heritage party. David curtain, and the journalist Quentin Letts keep me company. Just break, we were just before the break, we were talking about royal mail and about saturday deliveries. Frank got in touch, saying his son has to purse from the to pick up his purse from the sorting yards sorting office. 400 yards away. I for further details and i asked for further details and dear readers and listeners, im pleased to tell you ive got them what hes saying is them because what hes saying is his son dunstable, apparently his son in dunstable, apparently the postman has been taken off for cover for another round. So he his son has to now go he reckons his son has to now go and collect his purse. He says he doesnt get a refund on he doesnt even get a refund on whoever it is thats paid for. The stamps to send that purse to him. Linda not happy with me. Him. Linda is not happy with me. I was suggesting perhaps i was suggesting that perhaps the send Text Messages i was suggesting that perhaps the appointments nd Text Messages i was suggesting that perhaps the appointments instead � nessages i was suggesting that perhaps the appointments instead of ssages for appointments instead of letters. Mother letters. She says her mother cannot Text Messages cannot read. Text messages and doesnt attitude doesnt appreciate my attitude and but quentin pointed that out so i compromised said, well, so i compromised and said, well, actually you could send letters to those that want and need them and other people the text and offer other people the Text Messages and just messages as a solution. And just before the break, we were talking about quentins wifes knick. Meant something knick knacks. It meant something very to me. It meant very different to me. It meant a form of underwear. Very different to me. It meant a form of underwear. And david form of underwear. And david curtain chucked his £0. 10 in in the break told me that knick the break and told me that knick knacks for him are a brand of crisps. There you ill crisps. So there you go. Ill let you decide which definition you closely align with. But i want to talk to you about dangerous dogs. Xl dangerous dogs. The xl bully that been responsible dangerous dogs. The xl bully thaa been responsible dangerous dogs. The xl bully thaa spate been responsible dangerous dogs. The xl bully thaa spate of een responsible dangerous dogs. The xl bully thaa spate of attacks ponsible dangerous dogs. The xl bully thaa spate of attacks and ible for a spate of attacks and fatalities over the past few years. Just a bit of context here. This particular dog was imported theyre imported from america. Theyre absolutely huge and incredibly strong. Ive got to say. I personally find them quite scary looking. I would probably i must confess, cross the road if i saw one coming towards me. There have been calls now that that breed should be banned. David, where are you . A difficult one because, its a difficult one because, you know concern is that this you know my concern is that this breed of dog is going to kill more people because apparently ten people died in attacks ten people have died in attacks by of dog. But you by this breed of dog. But you have to look into it and say, is it the owners at fault in all of those cases or is it the breed itself . So i think we need to itself . So i think we need to look into this much more to ascertain if it is the dog or if the dog can be safe, if they have good owners or were the owners bad and badly trained and didnt have a grip on the dog in the cases where there were these, you know, terrible incidents, its a terrible name for a dog, isnt it . Xl bully . Its obviously it says it says a lot about the attitude of the owners, but it is the owners always in this who are responsible rather the are responsible rather than the poor mutt. Im against bans. Is it always i is it is it always the. I think just have fighting in them. Well, some some are better at fighting than others. But i think the sort of case were talking about here is the adoption of a dog as some sort of street statement. Now ive got a patterdale terrier , got a patterdale terrier, patterdale is a notoriously badly behaved and shes a little thing. She looks like a jack russell, a slightly bigger not much , not much bigger than a much, not much bigger than a jack russell. Bonny shes now 12. Shes a terrible ankle biter and she tends to bark at men with with beards and she feared this. This. She warned she wont go anywhere near. She has been in trouble with the authorities over this. And the authorities over this. And the police came out from hereford once to give bonnie a caution and they turned up and she rolled over on her back and showed them tummy. And it showed them her tummy. And it was sort of that was somehow encapsulated the absurdity. Was sort of that was somehow encitysulated the absurdity. Was sort of that was somehow enc it didntd the absurdity. Was sort of that was somehow enc it didntd the icome ity. Was sort of that was somehow enc it didntd the icome out. It didnt really come out. It didnt really come out. Did you get them out for they did you get them out for that. You wont get them out for a serious crime. Somebody had complained, so im dog bit im guessing so your dog bit someone complain. Someone and they complain. Was sort of lib yeah, he was some sort of lib dem rambler he took against dem rambler and he took against bonnie took his bonnie and she took against his his left i think. Right. Right. So what was the end of that story . I need to know. Well, we were issued with a verbal warning. Right. Should it happen then it would be no happen again then it would be no boniors a week. Right . Well, there you go. Well, there you go. It was going to be i mean, we were going to be in trouble. We were going to be in trouble. We were be in legal were going to be in legal trouble. I mean, the i am trouble. But i mean, the i am personally against bans and i think bans are often counterproductive. And you talked about you xl talked about if you saw an xl bully coming street, bully coming down the street, you cross the street. Well you would cross the street. Well thatis you would cross the street. Well that is the way to do it. And social no if social messaging is no good if i cross the street and the thing chases me attacks me chases after me and attacks me anyway. I think social anyway. But i think social stigma is the do this stigma is the way to do this rather than legislation. There are some i think there are some species of dogs that are banned already dogs already under the dangerous dogs act, i think act, arent they . I think theres species are theres ten species that are banned country. Banned in this country. Thats me is enough. Thats to me is enough. Thats to me is enough. Banning editor yeah, but this one, you know, again, i think it needs to be looked into a little bit more. But theres across the board. I mean theres a real problem. Well, lets cross very well, lets just cross very briefly. Webb dog briefly. Anna webb is a dog behaviourist. You keep me company good evening to company now. Good evening to you. What do think to this . You. What do you think to this . Theres im hearing the argument here dog. It theres im hearing the argument hethe dog. It theres im hearing the argument hethe owner. Dog. It theres im hearing the argument hethe owner. Is dog. It theres im hearing the argument hethe owner. Is that dog. It theres im hearing the argument hethe owner. Is that right . It is the owner. Is that right . Yes. Good evening, michelle. I agree. Think the i would agree. I think the problem is with the xl bully. Problem is with the xl bully. Its not really a breed as such. Its not really a breed as such. It is a mix of lots of different big strong dogs. And its become the sort of go to popular. I would say, status symbol. And the problem with them is they are a combination of bull breeds, which quinton rightly just said , some dogs are perhaps just said, some dogs are perhaps easier to train than others. I easier to train than others. I admire you very much for having admire you very much for having a patterdale theyre not one of the easiest dogs. So for somebody taking on an xl bully, that is, for example, never had a dog before, you know , thats a dog before, you know, thats rather a silly move. Im always, rather a silly move. Im always, you know, really stressing that you know, really stressing that you must bring a dog into your life, which brings great joy. But its got to be relevant to your lifestyle, your experience and your accommodation , so on and your accommodation, so on the banning side, it hasnt worked. We do have the dangerous worked. We do have the dangerous dogs act. It hasnt worked. It was a piece of knee jerk legislation back in 1991. We have only four banned breeds in the uk now. Since these breeds have been banned, the point of the dangerous dogs act was to protect the public and stop incidents that weve seen a lot of late , which i feel is to down of late, which i feel is to down the pandemic. People beginning to think right there must have accessory now, post pandemic is to get a dog and not choosing the right ones. As just mentioned. But the dangerous dogs act hasnt actually stopped dog bites at all. And in fact, theyve just increased and theyve just increased and theyve increased to be now at their record proportions, 34 up earlier this year than they were pre pandemic, and deaths by dog, which i find such a tragedy for the dog has actually rocketed to about 18 in the last 18 months when prior to indeed they go. This is a conversation that will rumble on. But anna webb, thatis will rumble on. But anna webb, that is a dog behaviourist there. Thank you for your time. There. Thank you for your time. Fascinating insight to for in deadly dog attacks in the uk in 2021 involved the xl bulldogs that rose to 6 in 10 in 2022. Lots of people agreeing that it is the person, the owner and not the dog that is to blame. And the dog that is to blame. And you know what . Theres not much kind of comfort in that. When you when you think about some of the people that have been attacked and very sadly killed the people that have been att some and very sadly killed the people that have been att some of d very sadly killed the people that have been att some of these sadly killed the people that have been att some of these dogs. Killed the people that have been att some of these dogs. Buted the people that have been att some of these dogs. But look, by some of these dogs. But look, quentin, thank you very much for your company lots of your company tonight. Lots of appreciation tonight. Appreciation for you tonight. Thank for you, david. Thank you. Also for you, david. Moral story weve moral of the story that weve learned tonight, away from learned tonight, stay away from quentins does quentins house. He does weird things wife, knick things with his wife, knick knacks. Is going to knacks. And his dog is going to attack you. I have said trinkets, i could have said trinkets, but that would misunderstood. But that would be misunderstood. Were moving so trim kits. Were moving on. Dont go anywhere. Nigel farage is up next. The temperatures rising. The temperatures rising. Boxt solar power sponsors of weather on. Gb news. Weather on. Gb news. Hello again. Its aidan hello again. Its Aidan Mcgivern here from the met office with the gb news forecast. A warm, sultry night to come. For many of us, more hot sunshine in to thursday, a small chance of thunderstorms developing towards western and southWestern Areas in particular as low pressure sends heat and humidity northwards across the uk. Now, any thunderstorm that do develop will be very hit and miss, quite isolated, mostly towards Western Areas. Overnight but there is the chance that these thunderstorms will contain frequent flashes of lightning. So they could be quite visible in the night sky where they do occur. Some low cloud creeping into the east. Its a warm night for many high teens and for many mid to high teens and in some places no colder than 20 or 21 celsius. So some patchy fog about first thing thursday. Some of this misty low cloud in the east. But that will tend to retreat to north sea coasts. And for many its a fine day , but for many its a fine day, but weve still got that potential thundery activity moving north into Northern Ireland and parts of scotland. By the afternoon. And a very warm or hot day and its a very warm or hot day in places 29 to 32 celsius in the south, 28 celsius for northern scotland. So the heat northern scotland. So the heat is extensive across the uk and its a warm start to friday. Again, some of that misty low cloud in the east. Again the threat of thundery showers towards the west and southwest, but otherwise its just a case of sunny skies and the temperatures continue to rise up to 33 celsius in places by saturday. The temperatures rising. Boxt the temperatures rising. 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A manhunt is underway after a former soldier charged with terror offences escaped from wandsworth prison. 21 year from wandsworth prison. 21 year old daniel abad khalif is accused of leaving fake bombs at accused of leaving fake bombs at a military base while serving with the army. Its understood he escaped from a prison kitchen and clung to the underside of a food delivery van. He was last seen wearing a chefs uniform. Uk ports and airports are on high alert with delays reported as a result of extra security checks. Commander dominic murphy, head of the mets Counter Terror command, says the police are doing all they can. Have officers and staff from across