Aaron armstrong in the newsroom in birmingham. Deserves so much better. According to west better. Thats according to West Midlands better. Thats according to west midlethe city council declared after the city council declared itself bankrupt itself effectively bankrupt europes largest local authority has a bill of £760 million in equal pay claims. The conservative it conservative mayor says it raises about way raises concerns about the way the council been the labour led council has been run. With the run. All new spending, with the exception services and exception of Vital Services and the protection of vulnerable people, immediately. The protection of vulnerable peoplonshore immediately. The protection of vulnerable peoplonshore infarmsately. The protection of vulnerable peoplonshore infarms are i. More onshore wind farms are expected as a result expected to be built as a result of announced by the of new rules announced by the government. 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Says the ban has exacerbated the cos this government being this government is being held to of to ransom by a bunch of tory backbenchers since 2015 have backbenchers who since 2015 have stopped wind built stopped onshore wind being built in that has raised in england and that has raised bills by for bills for families by £180 for every family in britain, were going through a cost of living crisis. Surely now those individuals and those conservative can that conservative mps can see that its to have onshore its much better to have onshore wind cut bills wind built and cut bills for families, schools minister says wind built and cut bills for fam governments minister says wind built and cut bills for famgovernments been er says wind built and cut bills for famgovernments been very ys the governments been very proactive with the proactive in dealing with the concrete crisis and has been issuing guidance since 2018. 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In may, reports in russia number of russia claimed a number of cubans for cubans had signed up for Russias Armed forces in exchange citizenship. Exchange for citizenship. Separately, the uk government has announced the wagner group of mercenaries, which has been active in ukraine, is to be proscribed terrorist proscribed as a terrorist organisation. News organisation. This is gb news live it live across the uk. Thats it from me. Now its time for headliners. Headliners. Hello, welcome to headliners i im lam em im simon evans joining me tonight. Two top comedians that arent louis shaffer. They are josh howie louis and Cressida Wetton. Welcome how are you. 7 welcome how are you . I had fun last night. I had fun last night. Did you . Oh, it was all fun and the illuminated and games until the illuminated signs i just signs came out. Well, i just happened with. Happened to have one with. No, there bit there was a great bit of slapstick that been slapstick that had been semi rehearsed, that fully rehearsed, but that didnt fully integrate to integrate with our attempts to actually the actually get through the newspapers. Mind. Newspapers. But never mind. Tonight im sure its going to be seamless be a much more seamless integration, right . Yeah, totally little bit integration, right . Yeah, totbusiness little bit integration, right . Yeah, totbusiness the little bit integration, right . Yeah, totbusiness the mugs. Bit integration, right . Yeah, tothell, ss the mugs. Bit integration, right . Yeah, tothell, ss the nwater it well, well do the water pistols later. Take a look okay, lets take a look at the have the front pages. We have the telegraph work drive telegraph back to work drive shelved until 2025. The times mentally ill to work from home in benefits revamp the sun. Ive had my fill of holly. The news nhs staff told to watch out for concrete danger signs. The metro. Oh, what a fine mess this that is to do with sewage. I believe. And finally, the daily star ,. And finally, the daily star, the great fool of china. Interesting those of you from pages. Interesting those of you from pages. So we interesting those of you from pages. So we will start interesting those of you from pages. So we will start with the pages. So we will start with the telegraph. Josh yes , back to telegraph. Josh yes, back to work drive shelved until 2025. The government basically wants to reduce the billions that are spent on people who are not working for various reasons, including continents, not being able to leave their home and whatnot. And it looks like theyre one of the ways theyre going to do that say youve just to that is say youve just got to go anyway. But what go to work anyway. But what theyve done very cleverly is just go, you know what . Lets just leave it to whoever gets into the next who whoever gets into the next who who might it be . We dont. So you think basically they dont want to have take dont want to have to take responsibility of things . Its going and so going to be unpopular and so they want be. Going to be unpopular and so the its want be. Going to be unpopular and so the its it want be. Going to be unpopular and so the its it haswant be. Going to be unpopular and so the its it has to nt be. Going to be unpopular and so the its it has to be be. Going to be unpopular and so the its it has to be done. Its a it has to be done. Were so arguably, were spending so much money. At the much money. Yeah. But at the same time, it is leaving a poison labour poison chalice for labour if they poison chalice for labour if the yes. And theyre saying even yes. And theyre saying even then a year well by sound then a year as well by the sound of i mean there was of it. So i mean there was another there as well, another headline there as well, wasnt there, about the mentally ill so on. There an wasnt there, about the mentally ill lot� on. There an wasnt there, about the mentally ill lot of]. There an wasnt there, about the mentally ill lot of different an wasnt there, about the mentally ill lot of different factors awful lot of different factors and so on. But it is basically people into people have just got into the habit being during habit of being at home during lockdown, yeah. Habit of being at home during locibut n, yeah. Habit of being at home during locibut wouldnt yeah. Habit of being at home during locibut wouldnt they. Habit of being at home during locibut wouldnt they wouldnt but wouldnt they wouldnt people be working in working from type jobs anyway if from home type jobs anyway if you Something Else . You couldnt do Something Else . I mean, people doing that i mean, arent people doing that anyway . Yeah. No, no. True. No, no, no. True. True. Youve put your back out, apply for out, you dont apply for bricklaying jobs , do you . Bricklaying jobs, do you . Theres other things. Mean, kind yeah. I mean, the kind of jobs all anyway jobs have all gone now anyway havent all doing them i think were all doing them arent i think were all doing them areibut yeah, well not us because but yeah, well not us because were here. Were in here. Billion and but yeah, its 26 billion and thats 6 billion more in real terms pre pandemic. Terms than it was pre pandemic. So something does have to be done, but its going to be very unpopular. Done, but its going to be very unpopula what done, but its going to be very unpopulawhat about done, but its going to be very unpopula what about the yeah. What about the gentleman his pink gentleman there with his pink shorts . Whats that about . Shorts . Whats that all about . Well, just, you know, well, its just, you know, people wear shorts people can wear pink shorts nowadays. Seems at home i know. That seems at home auen i know. That seems at home alien to you anyway. In work. Hes or in work. Hes incontinent. Hes actually incontinent. You after photo. Somebody enjoying the weather i this is 5mm this is this is theres going to be a heat wave isnt there . This is this is theres going to bi a heat wave isnt there . This is this is theres going to bi dontit wave isnt there . This is this is theres going to bi dont know; isnt there . This is this is theres going to bi dont know; ithatthere . This is this is theres going to bi dont know; ithat comes but i dont know if that comes up in another page but theyre saying tomorrow anyway. Pretty for b ut pretty good for that. But there big there is actually another big article 13 or article that block under 13 or face huge fines social media told so this is the Online Safety bill thats been going on and on forever. I believe its to its final on to going its final readings on wednesday. Okay and of the wednesday. Okay and one of the things the government is things that the government is seemingly concerned about, seemingly very concerned about, and is and i think rightly so, is having these eight, nine, ten year olds on social media accounts having tick and accounts having tick tock and having whatnot and essentially they could lose these social media companies. They media accounts companies. They can their can lose like 10 of their annual income world income if they dont i think that they dont comply. I think that children should not be on social media. I find them annoying on social media. You what i find them annoying on socyou nedia. You what i find them annoying on socyou think . You what do you think . Its terrible for i think its terrible for the. Youre talking about watching what challenge. The. Youre talking about watnow, what challenge. The. Youre talking about watnow, if what challenge. The. Youre talking about watnow, if youret challenge. The. Youre talking about watnow, if youre a challenge. The. Youre talking about watnow, if youre a chaiyeare. Now, if youre a nine year old, you can now old, its like if you can now get a tiktok account, going get a tiktok account, its going to more valuable, to be all the more valuable, isnt so naughtiest, isnt it . So the naughtiest, most be most cunning children will be theyll status. Theyll have more status. So its prize now. Its really a prize now. Yeah, i suppose thats true. Yeah, i suppose thats true. Well, that would at least force them to show a little bit of initiative. Yeah, exactly. Which initiative. Yeah, exactly. Which i think is good. They shouldnt just be low hanging for just be low hanging fruit for them well, got them all the time. Well, you got them all the time. Well, you got the times, cressida. With what is some sort of destinys is that a some sort of destinys child reunion there by the look of it. How about that . How about that . Thats the. Thats our queen. The queen is the duchess of sussex. Queen of hearts. Sussex. Queen of hearts. Queen of hearts. Meghan markle looking very glamorous. But the story were looking at is mentally ill will be told to work a bid to cut work from home in a bid to cut benefits kind benefits. So weve kind of covered roughly covered that same story roughly. Exactly. Lot more. Yeah, exactly. A lot more people are not working now. 2. 5 Million People claiming incapacity payments. That is extraordinary. I mean, its no wonder our productivity is on the floor. But as you say, thats going to be all shelved until whichever government happens to step in, whoever that might be. Energy discounts for customers who back local wind farms. This sounds like a straightforward bribe. Is it . Straightforward bribe. Is it . Exactly. Exactly. Exactly. And then theres the 32 degree, which ive got to tell you, i didnt sleep in the last couple of nights. Its just too hot , couple of nights. Its just too hot, unpleasant, but its never the right temperature, in my view. You know , i have a very view. You know, i have a very narrow band acceptable temperatures. I operate in the day that kids go back to school is when were going to get a heat wave. Thats ridiculous. Have thats ridiculous. Yeah. Okay. What have we got . Weve again weve got the metro. Josh, again , slightly. This is a new angle on the crisis of sewage companies, basically just dumping out their sewage. And what a fine is. Sewage. And what a fine mess is. The headline. And what theyve the headline. And what theyve been like the argument been doing is like the argument goes it rains, theres goes that when it rains, theres overflow. And theres a overflow. And so theres been a lot instances in our lot of these instances in our rivers our and our beaches rivers and our and our beaches have very polluted have become very polluted because of now, they found because of it. Now, they found out that actually some of the out that actually on some of the hottest days of the year where theres , there doesnt theres no excuse, there doesnt they dont have this overflow excuse because of water in the system, water from system, extra water from rainfall. Just doing it rainfall. Theyre just doing it because they just want get because they just want to get rid stuff. Right. In rid of the stuff. Right. In which theyre doing which case theyre not doing their we their job as water companies, we pay their job as water companies, we pay for them to treat pay our bills for them to treat the sewage. Yeah. Are the sewage. Yeah. And they are literally going, you know what . Lets just we keep hearing this hideous stories people going lets just we keep hearing this hida us stories people going lets just we keep hearing this hida us stcines people going lets just we keep hearing this hida us stcin the people going lets just we keep hearing this hida us stcin the heat le going lets just we keep hearing this hid a us stcin the heat and oing lets just we keep hearing this hid a us stcin the heat and then for a swim in the heat and then getting days getting really ill two days later, yeah , because if later, like, yeah, because if theyve glastonbury for later, like, yeah, because if tifulle glastonbury for later, like, yeah, because if tifull weekend, glastonbury for later, like, yeah, because if tifull weekend, you;tonbury for later, like, yeah, because if tifull weekend, you;tonbu1its� r a full weekend, you know, its just swim. Just having a swim. The worst apparently in the worst apparently is in scotland. Well, that was one scotland. Well, that was one report which i dont report i heard, which i dont know. Feels even more know. Somehow feels even more wrong. Its like big, wrong. Somehow its like big, big country. Not not heavily populated. Theyre blaming england and ireland for their for the. Oh we certainly our stuff up there hopefully like seeing some of those tankers going up the m1 i have heard about and we live in hope. I have heard of a few people saying that this kind of stuff is actually starting to anecdotally, people are starting to complain about having encountered bit. Encountered it a bit. They know at the they dont know it at the time , though, do they . Isnt time, though, do they . Isnt this the problem that in this the problem that you go in and sparkly and and it all looks sparkly and lovely get sick . Lovely and then you get sick . Doesnt look sparkly well, it doesnt look sparkly and i dont and lovely. Thats why i dont go in anyway. Ive seen you go in anyway. The ive seen you go in anyway. The water. Ive seen you in the water. Youre right. Yeah no, i do. Youre right. Yeah no, i share. I make my no, i do. I share. I make my charity. I dont head charity. I dont put my head unden charity. I dont put my head under. And kevin costner. Why i quit yellowstone. That sounds like it might a sewage like it might be a sewage issue as well. As well. I suppose its a very good tv show. Swears by it. Show. Everybody swears by it. Well, its a kind of weird woke western isnt woke western, isnt it . Apparently picture apparently theres a picture of him pickup him sitting on a pickup truck thats used of thats always used as a way of kind here. We kind of going round here. We tend respect trans folks tend to respect our trans folks. Oh, really . Yeah. Thats a kind of. I dont know. Its kind of. I dont know. Its a meme, you know, you cant trust the meme to me. Finally chris to the meme to me. Finally chris to the star. The daily star. The star. The daily star. Daily star. The great wall of china. Is the story china. So this is the story about some workmen china who about some workmen in china who decided needed get decided they needed to get to work quickly. So they they work more quickly. So they they made hole in the great made a larger hole in the great wall of china to get their digger through. And now my goodness. Right. Okay. Well this is when at the picture, when you look at the picture, its not im imagining a little digger shaped hole just big enough of blokes in enough for a couple of blokes in one tories and jerry run one the tories tom and jerry run through. Yeah, exactly. Thats like the right home. Through. Yeah, exactly. Thats likebut the right home. Through. Yeah, exactly. Thats likebut its the right home. Through. Yeah, exactly. Thats likebut its not right home. Through. Yeah, exactly. Thats likebut its not like it home. Through. Yeah, exactly. Thats likebut its not like that. |e. But its not like that. And it turns out that the great wall of vast. Know of china is vast. I dont know if and only if you knew that. And only small. Its great. Its great small sections of it are maintained nice for the maintained and look nice for the tourist the that tourist and all the bits that look what we think of as look like what we think of as the great of theyve the great wall of china. Theyve all been rebuilt for the tourists. Some tourists. So yeah, yeah. Some people saying, it is that tourists. So yeah, yeah. Some peo hole saying, it is that tourists. So yeah, yeah. Some peo hole or saying, it is that tourists. So yeah, yeah. Some peo hole or is ing, it is that tourists. So yeah, yeah. Some peo hole or is that it is that tourists. So yeah, yeah. Some peo hole or is that a it is that tourists. So yeah, yeah. Some peo hole or is that a part that tourists. So yeah, yeah. Some peo hole or is that a part of at tourists. So yeah, yeah. Some peo hole or is that a part of it the hole or is that a part of it that so that theyve gone through . So the what theyve the point is that what theyve gone didnt even gone through, it didnt even look like wall. Looked like look like a wall. It looked like a earth. A mound of earth. Of china. No great mound of china. No great mound of china. Well, i dont know if they knew, its a bit like knew, but its a bit like hadrians when hadrians wall, isnt it . When you theres a few you go there, theres like a few stretches of decent puddingstone. Theres large elements. Ditch, elements. Its just a ditch, really, of elevated elements. Its just a ditch, really, but of elevated elements. Its just a ditch, really, but it of elevated elements. Its just a ditch, really, but it is f elevated elements. Its just a ditch, really, but it is 700 evated elements. Its just a ditch, really, but it is 700 years old. Mound. But it is 700 years old. So the question is, should these guys be locked up and the key thrown away or is it fine . Its incredible, isnt it, that build wall that china could build that wall 700 ago donald 700 years ago and yet donald trump couldnt done with trump couldnt get his done with all technology all the modern Technology Available to him . Its whats going. Great deep going on there. Great deep state. What it was. State. Thats what it was. Youre going to get some tweets afterwards tweets sent to you afterwards and you want to talk. Were going to go about the no. Arent we . No. Malone later, arent we . Well after the well save that for after the break. So i think we have an early break. Go our early break. We will go to our first commercial break little first commercial break a little bit planned, bit earlier than planned, perhaps, join us later. We perhaps, but join us later. We have the badenoch bounce. We have the badenoch bounce. We have creeping crime and its a gas. Gas gas. See you in a gas. Gas gas. See you in radio. And welcome back to headliners with me, simon evans. I am joined tonight by josh howie. And chris had a wetland. Howie. And chris had a wetland. We will kick off this section with the story which i would have expected to be on the front pages. Be honest with you, have expected to be on the front pagezthis be honest with you, have expected to be on the front pagezthis feelsionest with you, have expected to be on the front pagezthis feels like ;t with you, have expected to be on the front pagezthis feels like awith you, have expected to be on the front pagezthis feels like a muchou, josh, this feels like a much bigger story to me than bad beaches. Yeah birmingham absolutely. Yeah Birmingham City council effect of City Council Declares effect of bankruptcy, which is different from other kind of bankruptcy. Its effect. Its not ineffective based. What it means ineffective based. What it means is that now they are only legally obliged to pay for the for the stuff that like bins and the very basic. The very basic. Yeah. Thats what makes it ineffective. The stuff which they should have been focusing on all this instead of on all this time instead of whatever wasting whatever theyve been wasting their whatever theyve been wasting the i whatever theyve been wasting thei mean , i wouldnt i mean, i wouldnt necessarily sympathy in necessarily have sympathy in local wasting their local councils wasting their money, but the reason for them going over is because theyre basically they they paid about a billion so far back of an equal pay billion so far back of an equal pay settlement from about ten years ago. And theyve still got about another 760 million to settle. So this is that was a load of people who women presumably who were who were i mean, mostly because it was the types of jobs that women tend to do. Yeah. Yeah. But i mean, they were very well men. Very well. Yeah but what i is men yeah but what i mean is men dont to sue for equal pay. Dont tend to sue for equal pay. The presumption is that the dont tend to sue for equal pay. The prewerent n is that the dont tend to sue for equal pay. The prewerent gettingt the dont tend to sue for equal pay. The prewerent getting equal pay women werent getting equal pay with the men rather than the other mean, im not other way round. I mean, im not this not saying that this is what im not saying that they thats they were. Yeah, but thats what it right . Yeah. They were. Yeah, but thats what it andight . Yeah. They were. Yeah, but thats what it andight . Werent. And they werent. They i dont they getting and they werent. They i don bonuses they getting and they werent. They i don bonuses thaty getting and they werent. They i don bonuses thaty were ting the bonuses that men were getting. Thats, thats the bonuses that men were gettiof. Thats, thats the bonuses that men were gettiof it. Thats, thats the bonuses that men were gettiof it. I thats, thats the bonuses that men were gettiof it. I mean, hats, thats the bonuses that men were gettiof it. I mean, thiss, thats the bonuses that men were gettiof it. I mean, this isthats the bonuses that men were gettiof it. I mean, this is the� s part of it. I mean, this is the problem, obviously, women part of it. I mean, this is the proble workplace ly, women part of it. I mean, this is the proble workplace and women part of it. I mean, this is the proble workplace and birmingham in the workplace and birmingham is suffering accordingly. Is suffering accordingly. It does make you wonder whether is know, whether there is you know, whether there is you know, whether kind of whether there isnt some kind of almost moral argument against historical settlements like that, being able to just tip a city into a catastrophe like this. It doesnt seem to me completely agree, because surely now theres going be more suffering. Women in cities need women in the cities need access ,i women in the cities need access , i dont know, access to, i dont know, whatever the council does. I mean do you draw a line mean, when do you draw a line under dont i dont know. People i mean, it was ten but people i mean, it was ten years arguably years ago, those people arguably did. Unfair. Did. It was unfair. They it was you know, they well, it was you know, the i the court settled it. So i suppose for to us it suppose its not for to us it just seems like catastrophe. I just seems like a catastrophe. I dont know how they ever claw their this. Their way out of this. Well, i think declare well, i think they declare that save that by now they can then save that by now they can then save that they would be that money that they would be putting these other things putting on these other things like it like libraries or whatever it is. Its terrible for the city. Yeah its obviously birminghams, its birminghams, you know, its a huge city, an and its not alone. Right. Weve seen enough but this is the largest weve seen woking and slough places of that sort of size. Yeah. Yeah. This seems to be i dont know if you call epidemic but theres call it an epidemic but theres definitely sometimes these things on for things may be rumbling on for some until the news bothers some time until the news bothers to suppose to investigate them. I suppose they, accumulate a certain they, they accumulate a certain mass you start to recognise mass and you start to recognise a but yeah. A pattern. But yeah. Do you think i mean the things that they can still spend on, dont you think thats going to difficult to be really difficult to police within because within the council . Because if somebody with a somebody comes to you with a good , if youre person good story, if youre the person writing checks , youll still writing the checks, youll still feel it right . Feel obliged to do it right . Absolutely. Feel obliged to do it right . Notbsolutely. Feel obliged to do it right . Not bankrupt like if i its not bankrupt like if i were bankrupt, id be bankrupt. Exactly. I dont yeah, exactly. Well, i dont know how they claw their way. I genuinely dont, because its such sum. Unless such a vast sum. Unless birmingham printing birmingham can start printing its own money. Perhaps. Maybe. I mean, the city has arguably changed over the last sort changed a lot over the last sort of ten, 15 years. Mean, become yeah. I mean, it has become not rubbish. Not as rubbish. I havent been there so much. Yeah, i used to go there a lot. The glee was always a fun club, you know. But mr egg has gone. Problem. Gone. That may be the problem. Yeah. And also. Yeah. And also. Yeah. Mr egg yeah. And also. Yeah. Mr eg classic. Many, mr to classic. I had many, many breakfasts. Many many breakfasts. Mr egg many breakfast. The breakfast. There thats the start decline crested at start of the decline crested at the times have identify the one tory cabinet member whose popularity is bucking the downward trend is it the cat . Its not the cat. Its not the cat. Its not the cat. Its Kemi BadenochKemi Badenoch tory badenoch it becomes tory supporters it, minister. Supporters favour it, minister. So she is absolutely smashing it. Shes got a 59 Approval Rating , which is i mean suella, rating, which is i mean suella, for example, has got 21, but she not doing so well, 3. 8 points. So it looks like if they if they had a an election for the leader of the party now it would be her. I mean, she was very popular dunng i mean, she was very popular during the last leadership election on this channel as well. But also just generally among the staunch the sort of most staunch supporters. She seems what they call sound, generally speaking. Call sound, generally speaking. So the two big things are the trade been trade deals that shes been involved gender self involved in and the gender self id put to that. Theres id put a stop to that. Theres no mixed toilets. Well no more mixed toilets. Well there are still here, but eventually able to wear eventually well be able to wear flip to the work toilets flip flops to the work toilets again be. Again and it will be. And can on her and she can think on her feet. Good at the feet. Shes pretty good at the box. Not say shes box. But thats not to say shes a effective communicator. A very effective communicator. That quality shes shes got that quality in where, you in a politician where, as you say, sound , she say, she sounds sound, she sounds normal. Shes very sounds normal. And shes very intelligent knowledgeable. Intelligent and knowledgeable. We dont know much about her economic policies necessarily and whatnot. And maybe thats and whatnot. And maybe thats why she didnt go all the way with the leadership election. But she is the but well see if she is the leader in waiting. So i suppose the big question is if which not entirely is if which is not entirely covered by this story, just covered by this story, but just while know , well, i while were, you know, well, i can a small straw poll can conduct a small straw poll if sunak is utterly humiliated at the next general election, which is certainly possible. Which is certainly possible. Should he go, would expect should he go, would you expect him yeah, him to go . Yeah, 100. Gone like. Yeah. In hed be gone like. Yeah. In in the first day or two, he announces. Would you agree with that. Yeah. Yeah. Would you agree with that. Yeah think. Out and do a i think come out and do a very quick. Hasnt had it for i mean he hasnt had it for long he. Thats the only long has he. Thats the only thing. You thing. I mean i suppose you know. On the other hand he know. But on the other hand he did launch in did fight and launch a coup in order to get to get it. Got it. Yeah. Yeah. I mean its the fact that the tory membership , i fact that the tory membership, i mean, itd interesting to mean, itd be interesting to see, first of all if the who the uk might actually vote for as a tory we havent tory leader because we havent had. But, but, but had a chance yet. But, but, but i that they messed up i think that they messed up actually voting. I think that if she had won that a leadership election, would have election, i think she would have been dangerous for, for been really dangerous for, for starmer. Yeah, you know, but we well see. Well i mean i, i think they should have just left truss in charge and that would have been better for me. Certainly personally in terms of tax liabilities, also i think it liabilities, but also i think it would have made more sense for sunak could have then taken sunak who could have then taken over her defeat over after her crushing defeat and to a and looked forward to building a party. Why anyone party. I dont know why anyone would months. Party. I dont know why anyone woqunowing months. Party. I dont know why anyone woqunowing were nths. Party. I dont know why anyone woqunowing were going just knowing you were going to get slaughtered. Think maybe ego well, i think maybe its ego. Can turn it. Maybe he thinks he can turn it around. , hes not. I feel around. I mean, hes not. I feel sorry the because sorry for the guy because he isnt. Over yet. Anyway. Its not over yet. Anyway. The rocket may the Little Pocket rocket may pull it off. You never know. Josh, telegraph , we have news josh, telegraph, we have news that is no longer a that shoplifting is no longer a crime. Its been downgraded to a sport. Is that right . Yeah yeah, exactly. Well, you get a bit. You dont. Its not even yeah, exactly. Well, you get a bit. Yanymore its not even yeah, exactly. Well, you get a bit. Yanymore because even yeah, exactly. Well, you get a bit. Yanymore because you a sport anymore because you dont run no dont have to run out. No you just grab stuff you can just grab the stuff and you can just grab the stuff and you can just isnt it . Just sort her out, isnt it . Yeah. I like the look of that. Shoplifting longer that. Shoplifting no longer seems says the seems a crime. Says as the chairman, of chairman, this is on the back of last tesco chairman last week. We had tesco chairman saying similar. Saying something very similar. This is stuart rose. Saying something very similar. Thi� hesrtuart rose. Saying something very similar. Thi� hes thet rose. Saying something very similar. Thi� hes the asdaa. Saying something very similar. Thi� hes the asda chairman now. Hes the asda chairman now. He used m s. He used to be m s. M s. Yeah, yeah. M s. Yeah, yeah. Maybe him just so this is maybe him just experiencing an encountering a different kind of shopping culture. Yeah, exactly. You dont see it in inverness , but yeah, taking out those , but yeah, taking out those, those underwear. , but yeah, taking out those, those underwear. But , but yeah, taking out those, those underwear. But yeah, but yeah, taking out those, those underwear. But yeah, this is a problem. This is because is a problem. This is because nowadays theyve essentially decriminalised anything thats stolen less than £200. Is that right . What i saw someone doing. Right . What i saw someone doing. Should we even saying that should we even be saying that on dont know. That on air . I dont know. Is that like i dont feel like we have like i dont i feel like we have a have law abiding viewership. Thats but what they thats true. But what they did, someone did in america, i saw in a shop is they made everything because they have a similar like threshold of like 2000. I think its much higher, like 1,000 or something. Theyve everything 1,001, theyve made everything 1,001, right . Like everything is right . Like everything is legally, but when you take it to the counter, you get coupon in the counter, you get a coupon in for the discount. And thats how theyve sort of gone, how they can but, know, its theyve sort of gone, how they canbut, know, its and you but, you know, its and you i mean, you dont know whether its you see its social media, but you see a lot of clips now on twitter of people just just literally stuffing bags, say, stuffing bags, as you say, without guilt panic or without zero guilt or panic or any expectation that they might be apprehended. And its putting up the pnces and its putting up the prices the of us, isnt prices for the rest of us, isnt it . Mean , obviously marks prices for the rest of us, isnt it . Spencers viously marks prices for the rest of us, isnt it . Spencers aiously marks prices for the rest of us, isnt it . Spencers a couple marks prices for the rest of us, isnt it . Spencers a couple ofiarks and spencers a couple of sandwiches are already £200, but well, not when i go in ten minutes time. Well, not when i go in ten miryellow time. Well, not when i go in ten miryellow label time. Well, not when i go in ten miryellow label kid. � ne. Yellow label kid. Yellow label kid. Yeah , yeah. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, yeah. But, but and the other issue with it is its the break in. We had a story about yesterday with it is its the break in. We had a they about yesterday with it is its the break in. We had a the breaking esterday with it is its the break in. We had a the breaking esttheiy with it is its the break in. We had a the breaking estthe social about the breaking of the social contract people contract. Yeah. When people feel like they , when these like they, when they see these clips, when these people experience it, whats your point of investing in the system when people can just take what they want . Absolutely. Lot of isnt theres a lot of that, isnt there . Say there . I mean, you could say again, the boats again, like the small boats crossing the channel is, you know, its know, in numerical terms, its not a huge part of immigration. But sense that like but that sense that like a fairly straightforward proposition , a border is just proposition, a border is just being ignored. Being ignored. And also the arguable unfairness. S thats what people unfairness. S thats what people hate. Think most of all in hate. I think most of all in this country. Yeah, absolutely. Well, to yeah, absolutely. Well, as to sort out , i yeah, absolutely. Well, as to sort out, i would think sort it out, i would think arming store detectors is arming your store detectors is probably the first thats going to be one of the things theyre doing is postal fines for anything. Mean, can imagine mizzi i mean, can you imagine mizzi saying, i cant come out robbing today . To and pay my today . Ive got to go and pay my postal its just so soft guardian. Now the kids are better off in school. Even anxious kids, give or take, the old collapsing ceiling, obviously. Is that right . Right . Thats right. Children with mild be better off in mild anxiety be better off in school, chris whitty. School, says chris whitty. I think this is hilarious. Hes telling people that if your kid has mild anxiety , that can be has mild anxiety, that can be upsetting. But it could be a normal part of growing up. Normal part of growing up. Thats just school, isnt it . I was absolutely miserable for seven years and thats thats just how it is. Kids have learnt, i dont know whether this i might be callous i think know whether this i might be callous learned i think know whether this i might be callous learned ai think these theyve learned a few of these Mental Health terms theyre Mental Health terms and theyre starting weaponize them. Do starting to weaponize them. Do you what i mean . Ive you know what i mean . Oh, ive got anxiety. You know what i mean . Oh, ive got well, ty. You know what i mean . Oh, ive got well, ty completely but you know what i mean . Oh, ive got top ll, ty completely but you know what i mean . Oh, ive gottop ll, 1that, pletely but you know what i mean . Oh, ive gottopll,1that, ifetely but you know what i mean . Oh, ive gottopll,1that, if you but you know what i mean . Oh, ive gottopll,1that, if you haveiut on top of that, if you do have legit the worst thing legit anxiety, the worst thing you is sit at home in a you can do is sit at home in a foetal ball, feed foetal ball, dont feed it, dont happy. Dont feed it, keep it happy. But i think its a bit rich coming whitty. Why but i think its a bit rich conthey whitty. Why but i think its a bit rich conthey yes itty. Why but i think its a bit rich conthey yes because but i think its a bit rich con spent yes because but i think its a bit rich con spent a yes because but i think its a bit rich con spent a couple es because but i think its a bit rich con spent a couple of because you spent a couple of years telling that theyre going telling them that theyre going to grandparents to be killing their grandparents if what i have. If they learn what i have. Has a good friend who my wife has a good friend who has a son who was always a little bit kind of i dont know to the but ocd to what use the term, but ocd always washing his hands, a bit anxious so on. Anxious about germs and so on. And always going, and she was always going, its fine, dont fine, its fine. You dont need to. Suddenly comes to. And then suddenly this comes along, wash hands. Along, right . Wash your hands. Wash you know, and wash your hands, you know, and spiralled off the i dont know what about this. What we do about this. Parents its hes telling parents its okay school with mild okay to go to school with mild respiratory illnesses well, respiratory illnesses as well, right . Yes, it right . I mean, yes. Yes, it always was. You know, so thats thats the latest hot advice. Yes. Handkerchiefs and tissues and maybe a towel over a bowl of whats the stuff called , if whats the stuff called, if youre lucky, isolated. Yeah, youre lucky, isolated. Yeah, exactly. Yeah well, hopefully they can overcome some this. So speaking of inhalations, weve got only by the end of the year to investigate the beneficial. Ive never tried this stuff. Ive never tried this stuff. Its perfectly legal. The one thing ive ever tried because. Okay well let me read the headline. Oxide will the headline. Nitrous oxide will be end of the be banned by the end of the yeah be banned by the end of the year. Become year. Laughing gas has become a legal, its legal, classy substance. Its the only ive never tried a cigarette. Done cigarette. Ive never done anything. When friend had anything. But when my friend had anything. But when my friend had a baby, like a home birth, they were left over with a canister of this. Sounds like an enormously confabulated back story. And confabulated back story. And i tripped over, went headfirst into the home birthing bath , and into the home birthing bath, and i had to try it out. As she gave birth. No, no, as she gave birth. No, no, no, no. But i was like, im going to try it. Thats not gas in air. Thats not the same stuff they do. You telling me im a are you telling me im not a drug addict . I dont think oh, i thought so cool. I like it. You see these at glastonbury , these piles of Little Silver capsules . I it so long ago. We i tried it so long ago. We had ever going to had no idea it was ever going to be drug. It was just be an illegal drug. It was just something University Something you had at university and anything of and nobody thought anything of it. This thing and nobody thought anything of itand this thing and nobody thought anything of itand nowherethis thing and nobody thought anything of itand nowhere in; thing and nobody thought anything of itand nowhere in this thing. And nowhere in this article does really me any does it really sell me any serious consequences of this. Yeah, there are very funny. Tell where used yeah, there are very funny. Use tell where used yeah, there are very funny. Use it. Ll where used yeah, there are very funny. Use it. There where used yeah, there are very funny. Use it. There wasre used yeah, there are very funny. Use it. There wasre guy used to use it. There was a guy called willy have you called willy james. Have you heard william james. He heard of him . William james. He was brother henry james, was the brother of henry james, the a he was the brother of henry james, the a a he was the brother of henry james, the a significant a he was the brother of henry james, the a significant sort| he was the brother of henry james, the a significant sort of; was a very significant sort of philosopher and i guess sort of proto psychiatrist, psychologist. Wrote about psychologist. He wrote about things varieties of things like the varieties of religious experience and so on. And he was quite interested in the states that people entered into under the this was before lsd. And so on. But, you know, the various altered states that you could have through drugs. And at time nitrous oxide and at that time nitrous oxide was considered one of the more interesting things to investigate and would investigate. And people would would from it having would emerge from it having sometimes having had a sense that they had had quite a religious experience. But but they unable to explain it. They were unable to explain it. And on one occasion, i think it was him , he took the stuff and was him, he took the stuff and he was absolutely determined to write kind of epiphany write down any kind of epiphany , insight he and write down any kind of epiphany , did insight he and write down any kind of epiphany , did so. Insight he and write down any kind of epiphany , did so. Andight he and write down any kind of epiphany , did so. Andight iwhen and write down any kind of epiphany , did so. Andight iwhen he 1d he did so. And then when he recovered, retrieved his recovered, he retrieved his notebook and he had written down. I think ive got this right, Something Like the smell of turpentine prevails. Well, of turpentine prevails. Well, thats still pretty. Hed been hed been convinced this was you know, thats why when you are thats when you write a joke in the the night, the middle of the night, you wake write, is wake up and you write, this is the best joke ive written. Up morning, you wake up in the morning, youre like, what . Teabags . What yeah. But the funny thing yeah. Yeah but the funny thing is that saying that is that theyre saying is that theyre going testing for theyre going to be testing for it. Idea how it. And i have no idea how youre to test for youre going to test for laughing of laughing gas. No just sort of show my and if you show one of my sets. And if you dont safe , dont laugh and youre safe, ive got no idea. But think going to but i think theres going to be kids enrolling in be a lot of kids enrolling in catering it . Catering college now, isnt it . Its is that its like the is that a legitimate couple legitimate use . Theres a couple of something. No, of puff pastry or something. No, it how do it makes whipped cream. How do you not this, mr whippy . You not know this, mr whippy . Its the stuff that in your i youre giving yourself away, though, cressida. I was at university 20 years ago, it university 20 years ago, and it wasit was no big deal. University 20 years ago, and it wasi was no big deal. University 20 years ago, and it wasi rememberg deal. Used i remember when we used to have glue, now its have to sniff glue, and now its just whipping cream. Its amazing. Days amazing. The kids these days dont born in. Dont know theyre born in. I there was something i had some other. Yes i had a dream once and i wrote a joke down and it did actually get used. Im going to tell you what the joke was, okay . It to tell you what the joke was, okay . It was was in the okay . It was it was in the context comedy radio play. Context of a comedy radio play. And a rather like and it was about a rather like a homer simpson. Mexico homer simpson. But in mexico or like america. Homer like south america. Homer simpson. Being simpson. Yeah. And being remembered that for school theyd had a guess the capital of peru stall at the fete and he had come second with mexico city i this was w this was whats going on. This was whats going on. I love that joke. Guess the capital of peru. Not know, not know it. But guess it. That was. That was my favourite bit. Anyway thats all for part two. Join part three. I just join us in part three. I just got it. Yeah no joke. Vegan roasts. Vegan roasts. Vegan roasts. You get the whipped cream out. Rainbow laces, burglary gnomes. Its all coming up. Well you couple of well see you in a couple of minutes. Minutes. That feeling inside made that warm feeling inside made from boxt boilers is proud sponsors of weather on. Gb news. Sponsors of weather on. Gb news. Hello again. As we go through the next 24 hours, some of us will have bit of low cloud and will have a bit of low cloud and fog overnight. 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And on that easterly, going that easterly, were going to drag low cloud , some sea drag in some low cloud, some sea fog the north sea fog in from the north sea affecting eastern parts of england also Eastern England and also eastern scotland where were likely england and also eastern scotannd where were likely england and also eastern scota little 1ere were likely england and also eastern scota little bits were likely england and also eastern scota little bit ofere likely england and also eastern scota little bit of drizzlyaly england and also eastern scota little bit of drizzly rain see a little bit of drizzly rain overnight. Further overnight. Elsewhere further south and west, clear skies, a few pockets mist and fog, few pockets of mist and fog, though, temperatures though, and temperatures not dropping a huge amount. Some places above celsius. Places staying above 20 celsius. 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And theres the chance of some heavy thundery showers making their way northwards the western way northwards up the western side of uk, central and side of the uk, more central and eastern parts of the country are likely to stay dry and sunnier and temperatures are going to be similar to tomorrow. Really, again, likely to see highs of 32 or 33 before something perhaps cooler by the weekend. Cooler by the weekend. That warm feeling inside from boxt boilers as proud sponsors of weather on radio. And welcome back to headliners. So the mail now cressida and the rspca are accused of cooking the books when it comes to sunday roasts certainly are. The rspca are deluding themselves. Fury of meat loving brits after their survey claimed nearly 6 in 10 are ditching roast beef dinners for plant based alternatives as charities accused of cooking stats. So the accused of cooking stats. So the daily mail are very upset about this. They refer to furious britons, but they dont say which ones. Theres been any briton thats made briton thats thats been made aware of the facts. But you think from that headline that thered counter thered been another counter study, but theres mention of study, but theres no mention of it the and somebody it. So the rspca and somebody else called the social Market Foundation some foundation have done some research turns out that research and it turns out that brits are to reduce their brits are trying to reduce their meat consumption. But when they say, i mean, i do think there is a certain amount manipulation of data amount of manipulation of data by charities lately in to order steer agenda, certainly. But i havent encountered this one. But when they about but but when they talk about roasts is that sounds to me roasts that is that sounds to me like are they trying to say people are just not always having a sunday roast or theyre having a sunday roast or theyre having a sunday roast or theyre having a plant based because thats a slightly different thing, it . Do you want thing, isnt it . Do you want i mean, mention mean, theres a lot of mention of plant products. Mean, theres a lot of mention of yeah,ant products. Mean, theres a lot of mention of yeah,ant theyreroducts. Mean, theres a lot of mention of yeah,ant theyrerodu saying yeah, but theyre not saying roast. Thing is roast. And the other thing is and as you and theyre using it, as you said beginning , the rspca said at the beginning, the rspca are in are deluding themselves in quotation doesnt quotation marks, but it doesnt say who said that. Its ridiculous, but no. Yeah, as you said, its slightly open ended questions here. When they say questions here. So when they say that some 58 of people would be supportive government supportive of government subsidies the cost. Subsidies to help cut the cost. Well, most people would well, im sure most people would like food if the like cheaper food if the government them government would help them out with how did do with that. So how did they do thishas come up to you has somebody come up to you in the street and said, you has somebody come up to you in thecowszt and said, you has somebody come up to you in thecows shouldaid, you has somebody come up to you in thecows should have you think cows should have a horrible the horrible time . No what are the questions . Happen . Questions . How did this happen . Well, theyre saying the rspca, 60, roughly rspca, theyve taken 60, roughly 58 have taken steps to eliminate or reduce their own meat consumption. That is very different from saying we no longer have sunday roast. Longer have a sunday roast. Absolutely that might very easily like we no longer absolutely that might very easiljlike like we no longer absolutely that might very easiljlike bacon this could like just even this could be like just even thinking or thinking about it is enough or one one that one replacing one meal that doesnt show overall, some great big trend. Also, when you see a lot of these food companies, theyre inflated value. These vegan products and actually now theyre closing them down because buying because people arent buying them theyre too expensive. Know. Knowacouple expensive. Know. Know a couple of i know. I know a couple of people heavily in people who invested heavily in in the kind Lab Grown Meat in the kind of Lab Grown Meat projects over the last few years and a lot of money. And lost a lot of money. Theyll be furious. And theyll be furious. Britons they the britons as they may be, the furious britons and they might think it . Think product isnt it . , obviously the but the rspca, obviously the rspca are theyre concerned is with farming element with the factory farming element. Think a lot of. You know, and i think a lot of people probably with people would probably agree with the rspca that there are concerns about the treatment of animals. Course thats a animals. But of course thats a subtly thing. Again, subtly different thing. Again, to decent meat to the idea that decent meat that grows, you know, that its pasture and lives a decent life and then one day the action comes down, you know, thats completely. Yeah. And apparently lots of people would like to see that on packaging as well. Yes. Well an axe. Yes, thats see the murder. But thats the thing is people of course you want you want and you can sort of want that and you can sort of imagine that. But when youre in the supermarket youre the supermarket and youre going, well, this ones £5 and this more, this ones 7 or £8 or more, youre like, oh, ive youre like, oh, well, ive always because i know. Always felt bad because i know. I mean, this is a slightly specific issue, know, specific issue, but i do know, for that british for instance, that british farmers, think farmers in farmers, i think pig farmers in particular, have up to particular, have signed up to considerably more spacious , you considerably more spacious, you know, living quarters for pigs and so on than is the predominant in certain other. Well, i think denmark , which is well, i think denmark, which is famous for its, you know, its rashes and so on. And you would assume danes were quite an assume the danes were quite an enlightened people. But apparently treat apparently they dont treat their well anyway , i their pigs very well anyway, i might now, thats might get sued. Now, thats probably the one will get probably the one that will get me, me over to the me, not by me over to the telegraph now. Josh football , telegraph now. Josh football, hypocrisy news and Jordan Henderson has found a new belief system. Yes , money. Liverpool fans yes, money. Liverpool fans reject Jordan Hendersons lgbtq apology. So this is the former liverpool captain and hes going out to saudi arabia. Hes been offered a load of dosh, fair enough. Some footage came out, was released by the saudi arabia of him with his yellow armband , of him with his yellow armband, which is support for lgbt no rainbow rainbow. Oh, i see. Well rainbow rainbow. Oh, i see. Well and theyve basically blurred it out. Yeah. Yeah. And a group called three lions pride, which is a sort of on yeah. Pride and 3 3 lions or whatever are basically saying that their members are going to turn their back on him and hesjust back on him and hes just saying, oh, im really sorry and whatever, but i just dont think thats going to make a significant impact. His. Significant impact. On his. Made sort of attempt hes made a sort of attempt to do little like of, to do a little bit of like of, you know oil troubled waters you know, oil on troubled waters. But hes not going to go very, very vague. Very vague. He said wants to respect he said he wants to respect everyone , pick a side. Mean, everyone, pick a side. I mean, youre supposed to be a sportsman. No sportsman. Im just yeah, no losing homosexuals football. Im sure there are many homosexuals who football fans, but i dont think its quite the same as like , annoying the same as like, annoying the theatre industry or whatever, you know . But also , i mean, you you know . But also, i mean, you know, there is a part of me thinks , oh, come on, jordan thinks, oh, come on, Jordan Henderson, must already henderson, you must have already earned millions and youve been captain of one of europes greatest the other greatest sides, but on the other hand, offered hand, i suppose theyve offered him money that hes him so much money that hes setting up family setting up his family for intergenerational. Intergenerational wealth. Now, isnt he saying its all about feelings . Is he about his feelings . Is he . He didnt valued at didnt feel wanted and valued at the last thats so funny. The last place. Thats so funny. When saudis and when the saudis came in and offered some money for his offered some money for him, his team, current team felt team, his current team felt wanted. They didnt say , no, no, wanted. They didnt say, no, no, we keep you. So we want to keep you. So hes kind leaving slam door kind of leaving with a slam door and a gut feeling. Do you he writes any of do you think he writes any of this is all just do you think he writes any of this i is all just do you think he writes any of this i he all just do you think he writes any of this i he all ji st do you think he writes any of this i he all ji do think so. 50. So. He needs help because its not very well written. Very slick, but it its not very slick, but it is say, is very funny because he say, i just feel wanted. But just want to feel wanted. But really means i want really he just means i want money. Yeah. Yeah. And so and then they offered me this then they they offered me this money they didnt money and then they didnt offer, feel wanted offer, they didnt feel wanted aka didnt offer any more money. Not the first person to like to see tokens of love and affection. If you really love me affection. If you really love me. Daily mail, cressida and an unusually heartwarming story of forgiveness and reconciliation. Yes, this is great. So daily mail boy in the striped pyjamas. Author john boyne apologises to authorjohn boyne apologises to father ted creator Graham Linehan , saying he could have linehan, saying he could have used platform to support him used his platform to support him instead of adding to pile on in trans debate. As Roisin Murphy trans debate. As Roisin Murphy appears to change writers mind. So great. Weve had a so this is great. Weve had a heartfelt apology. Graham linehan has been absolutely gracious about it and said, thanks very much. Appreciate that. Could the floodgates open . Because there are so many people who are locked into the trans ideology who probably its very difficult for anybody at this point, isnt it, to back out and say, do you what . Had say, do you know what . Ive had to think and im not sure about this particularly for this particularly difficult for them graham them to say so about Graham Linehan, who is you is not hes not further than jk rowling not hes further than jk rowling or whatever, isnt he . Even though they both came from place. From an equally loved place. Yeah. And this is quite a complex story , which probably complex story, which we probably dont go dont have all the time to go into john boynes history, but apparently he wrote a book. I think hes written novel which think hes written a novel which is boy who is about a small boy who has a trans sibling. Is that right . Yeah so he himself gay. Yeah so and he is himself gay. So hes not just somebody who sort of dipped his toe in these waters. Hes hes had quite a lot dealings with it. Its lot of dealings with it. Its interesting , you that interesting, as you say, that this murphy case has has, this Roisin Murphy case has has, i dont know, pulled it out because can see said i dont know, pulled it out b know, these poor kids, what theyre going through and whatnot , i mean, theyre going through and whatnot, i mean, im talking about them going on about in terms of them going on medication. Yeah. And their lives medicalized for the lives being medicalized for the rest read lives being medicalized for the re st letter. Read lives being medicalized for the rest letter. I read lives being medicalized for the rest letter. I know read the letter. I know you read it because on because i saw you were on twitter it very twitter and it was a very gracious, well letter. Gracious, well written letter. And it is great that people now is very brave for him to for someone of all, change someone to first of all, change their mind or but shows their mind or brave, but shows his intelligence. Then his intelligence. And also then to then go, yeah, specifically with graham, as i say, because theres more toxic and theres no one more toxic and it would wonderful that could would be wonderful if that could be like the heat could be just like the heat could be drawn out of that. Good luck rosheen and good luck to rosheen herself, josh we go herself, of course. Josh we go to with the guardian, to wales now with the guardian, a very clever ploy involving everyones favourite pun. This was no yeah, well, this was no security. No security. Very security. No security. Very good. Well, this was also on the front of the of the star, wasnt it. I think as well. Mystery toy gnomes maybe the burglary ploy. Welsh so people welsh police warned. So people are finding in their are just finding these in their gardens. A couple of gardens. They found a couple of guys gardens. They found a couple of guys , kind of them out. Guys, kind of putting them out. And clever way and its just a very clever way of basically those gnomes are of basically if those gnomes are still garden and then it still in the garden and then it might indication no might be an indication that no ones actually there. I personally think one of those gnomes is actually wearing a balaclava, which i would oh, no, theyve done that. Those it looks a bit. Those it looks a bit. Those it looks a bit. Is it blackface . Is it blackface . No, its no, its balaclavas. Theyve all gone. Yeah theyve ever done. It seems a bit racist i god no drugs. No burgling. Yeah. You do yeah. What you should do is dress up. Im from dress the gnomes up. Im from the west country. We have scarecrow dressing up festivals. Okay, you get a gnome to okay, so if you get a gnome to show there and for show that you are there and for a of fun, make the an a bit of fun, make the gnome an outfit my. Outfit. Thats my. I think personally, outfit. Thats my. Is ithink personally, outfit. Thats my. Is the think personally, outfit. Thats my. Is the think p from emily, wasnt it . Yeah. Thats yeah. Yeah, thats right. Yeah. Those were the days before. Those were the days before. Brexit. Thats all. For part three. Join us in part four for ufos. A ban on meat language and a look at the life of londons canal folk. Cressida, well see you couple and welcome back to headliners. So we have the metro now, josh and nearly 80 years on hiroshima. Could be looking to rebrand its tourist offer. Yeah, atomic bomb site hiroshima is now a ufo hotspot. New pentagon map show so this is this new website the all Domain Anomaly Resolution Office has put out there , basically putting put out there, basically putting all of their information out there and what has been discovered is that, yeah, this area in japan is has got the most ufo sightings. Maybe its because people are suffering from radiation poisoning and theyre flashes before their eyes whatnot. Eyes or whatnot. But they wouldnt be anymore, would dont think so. It would they . I dont think so. It was yeah, i was seriously. Yeah, sorry. I know, but thats what im thinking. It was aliens. It was aliens. It was aliens. Well, not exactly well, its not exactly a joke, radiation poisoning joke, is it . Radiation poisoning. Funny. But it is funny. Drones , bird witty drones, bird reflections of light aeroplanes or insects. What happens is, once i think what happens is, once a a for it, then a place gets a name for it, then people likely to. And people are more likely to. And also got a museum about also theyve got a museum about ufos town and themed bus ufos in the town and themed bus stops. If youre into ufos, stops. So if youre into ufos, this your holiday destination. I suppose there is also possibly a bit of paranoia surrounding i quite like surrounding it. I quite like these new acronyms. The unidentate fried anomalous phenomena, the uap. Yeah, thats got to be because the ufo feels very 50 ish to me as opposed to the is. The uap, which is. Yeah, thats true. Slower very easy to make out an obvious anonymous. Yeah , i think thats im yeah, i think thats im going to use that one. And the all Domain Anomaly Resolution Office as well. So yeah office as well. So yeah hiroshima was was rebuilt and everything like quite quickly wasnt it. Its one of those great wonders that they kind of i think ten years later, i think about ten years later, its weird its not like some kind of weird waste land of. Yeah, but thats interesting. But so its that part of japan, its South Carolina and also an area in iraq and syria. So area in iraq and syria. So i dont know what would link these three things, but i mean, a psychologist might argue that its theres some sort of local mental ill phenomenon, you know what i mean . Right. Or it could what i mean . Right. Or it could be that there actually are auens be that there actually are aliens and theyre visiting those three different regions. Thats thats those three different regions. Ones thats thats those three different regions. Ones where thats thats those three different regions. Ones where cows thats those three different regions. Ones where cows and s those three different regions. Ones where cows and the the ones where the cows and the probes it thats i hope so. Probes is it thats i hope so. Thats what im going there next year and im not sure about iraq and syria. Ive never heard of ufos in japan, is japan, though. This is interesting that theyre catching guardian and catching up now. Guardian and cressida , and of few cressida, and one of the few areas in which one has to omit the french do things better than we think , okay, more we do. I think, okay, no more cordon bleu. Cordon bleu. French tries again to ban meaty language on vegetarian products. So you cant, you products. So you cant, you know, here we have Linda Mccartney burgers. Yes. As my mccartney burgers. Yes. As my friend used to say, i didnt think thered be of her think thered be any of her left, which get called burgers and things like that. And grills and things like that. Well, cant that well, you cant do that in france. Cant a veggie france. You cant call a veggie sausage dont sausage a sausage. They dont want used for want meaty words being used for non meaty products, which is a very french bacon. Exactly i mean, i tend to agree with this. I mean, i think if youre going to just create a sort of, you know, a mass some sort of you know, a mass of some sort of nut matter thats thats nut based matter, thats thats what call it, what you should have to call it, nut based matter , you know, half nut based matter, you know, half a kilo. A kilo. You bring in the trans debate. Yeah. I dont understand all yeah. I dont understand all the. Ive never understood the craze for trying to recreate things like sausages which are not actually a particularly. No not actually a particularly. No meaningful sort of maybe because it just tricks the brain if youre trying to kick start like i guess with cigarettes , they i guess with cigarettes, they created they didnt created vapes and they didnt necessarily have to do to necessarily have to do it to create sensation. But create the same sensation. But cigarettes, that would be an interesting that interesting but the idea that what theyre saying is the government is oh, its to government is like, oh, its to stop confused. Stop people getting confused. , like, come on, its yeah, like, come on, if its a sausage , i know what but a vegan sausage, i know what but theres so vegetarians theres so few vegetarians in france might actually france that they might actually not familiar with the not be that familiar with the concept and might get concept and they might just get it be. It home and be. This was ten i tried. I mean, this was ten years offer wasnt years ago. The offer wasnt great in england, but i tried to go france i read great in england, but i tried to glbook france i read great in england, but i tried to glbook fwasz i read great in england, but i tried to glbook fwasz horrifically a book which was so horrifically detailed about factory farming and it involved that i was and what it involved that i was absolutely we were on holiday in near toulouse and there was so little that you could eat that was that was veggie. It wasnt even full vegan. It was just chips and wine. Yeah, exactly. So that didnt last very long. I may getting better. So that didnt last very long. I may getting better. North may be getting better. North south divide news now. Chris skudder in the mirror. It may be grim up north, but at least you can to it all can afford to drink it all fuzzy. Can afford to drink it all fuz. Thats right. The real north thats right. The real north south huge south divide shows huge difference is paying more difference in who is paying more for kebabs beer. Youll for kebabs and beer. And youll be to hear that its be stunned to hear that its more expensive in london. What i know , apparently in county know, apparently in county durham, you get pint for durham, you can get a pint for 2. 65. Yeah how good is that down here . Its 663 is a common price evenin here . Its 663 is a common price even in and i dont know whether this is a national thing, but evenin this is a national thing, but even in edinburgh during the festival when you would think there might be a little bit a there might be a little bit of a dividend there might be a little bit of a divithed there might be a little bit of a divithe wetherspoons george the wetherspoons on George Street £3. 11 for a decent pint as well. A doom bar. Very nice. Okay. Yeah, i was impressed by that. The spoons here are pretty cheap as well, they . Cheap as well, arent they . The i think the spoons here, the spoons pretty. I think the spoons here, the spoyeah pretty. I think the spoons here, the spoyeah. Pretty. I think the spoons here, the spoyeah. You� tty. I think the spoons here, the spoyeah. You cant go wrong with yeah. You cant go wrong with the but apparently yeah. You cant go wrong with the my but apparently yeah. You cant go wrong with the my sponsor arently yeah. You cant go wrong with the my sponsor. |rently theres my sponsor. Please dont order the pizza. Thats my suggestion. Its not italian pizza. Its not. Italian pizza. Its not. But kebabs are cheaper as well in durham. Is that right . 550 in durham, getting up. To 550 in durham, getting up. To 13 or £14 down there. What . Well, for a kebab, apparently in greenwich, a post post pub like not a sit down in a restaurant like. No, its in the mirror. It must be true. I dont know. Must be true. I dont know. I mean, mums the young mean, my mums one of the young people are angry. Finally, daily mail. Josh although this is cressidas wheelhouse, really. But were in that point of the property cycle where crazy kicks in. Where the crazy kicks in. I this is like cresta i know this is like cresta getting jewish story. I i know this is like cresta getting jewish story. I got getting a jewish story. I got fed up of costly london rents. I moved into a narrowboat and now i moved into a narrowboat and now l pay moved into a narrowboat and now i pay just £350 a month. I actually know quite a lot about this because ive asked cresta loads of questions right like everybody does. She finds it incredibly boring and annoying, but patient , she but youre very patient, she answered. Every single one. Did i . Me. Answered. Every single one. Did i . Yeah, me. Answered. Every single one. Did i . Yeah, was me. Answered. Every single one. Did i . Yeah, was very� ne. Answered. Every single one. Did i . Yeah, was very on good yeah, it was very on a good day this woman, i dont know her because know each because we dont all know each other. Thinks like. Because we dont all know each oth like thinks like. Because we dont all know each oth like jewsinks like. Because we dont all know each oth like jews. Iks like. Like jews. Like jews. Its just okay. Every now and again, these stories come out and everyone on the london boat forum hates them because you wouldnt go to a landlubber wouldnt go up to a landlubber and say, what exactly your and say, what exactly are your bills . What do you pay for everything . And also how do you get rid of oh, brilliant. Love it. Oh, its brilliant. Love it. She you can buy she reckons that you can buy coal a month i coal for a month for £20. I guess hardy breed. Guess shes a very hardy breed. I i couldnt i couldnt do that. I couldnt turn her pug this boat. Turn her pug on this boat. Apparently. Yeah. Apparently. Yeah. Apparently. Yeah. Features quite heavily in he features quite heavily in this makes he features quite heavily in this safe makes he features quite heavily in this safe. Makes her feel safe. Hinckley photogenic pug. Probably got her the gig, to be honest. Well, yeah. I mean, her. Her bills are her bills. And i will just say that its not the same. Its like asking somebody what their costs and thinking its like asking somebody what theirsomeones s and thinking its like asking somebody what theirsomeones house. Hinking its like asking somebody what the and neones house. Hinking its like asking somebody what the and neone like use. Hinking its like asking somebody what the and neone like duringiking its like asking somebody what the and neone like during a ng its like asking somebody what the and neone like during a heat and thats like during a heat wave. Be interesting get an wave. Be interesting to get an update 4 months time update in 3 or 4 months time anyway , the show nearly anyway, the show is nearly over. Lets take another quick look at wednesdays front we have wednesdays front pages. We have the Daily Telegraph back to work drive shelved until 2025. Excuse me, the times mentally ill to work from home in benefits revamped the sun. Ive had my fill of holly eye news nhs staff told to watch out for concrete danger signs. The metro what a fine mess. And finally , the fine mess. And finally, the daily star, the great fool of china. Those were your front pages tonight. Well thats all we have time for. Thank you to my guest, josh howie and Cressida Wetton and the absence of Louis Schaffer. Cressida wetton and the absence of Louis Schaffer. We are back of Louis Schaffer. We are back tomorrow at 11 pm. With josh Louis Schaffer and darius davis. Thatll be an interesting show if youre watching at 5 am. Stay tuned for breakfast. Otherwise, thank you very much for committing this part of the evening to gb news. Sleep well and i will see you again next week. Good night. Week. Good night. Looks like things are heating up. Boxed boilers, proud sponsors of weather on. Gb news. Sponsors of weather on. Gb news. Hello again. As we go through the next 24 hours, some of us will have a bit of low cloud and fog overnight, but then its the return of the hot sunshine tomorrow, with the chance tomorrow, albeit with the chance of few showers. Looking at the of a few showers. Looking at the big and you see high big picture and you can see High Pressure dominating weather pressure dominating the weather across we are to across the uk. But we are to going have something of an easterly pushing easterly wind pushing its way in. Easterly , were in. And on that easterly, were going drag in some low cloud, going to drag in some low cloud, some from the north some sea fog in from the north sea affecting eastern parts of england and also eastern scotland, likely to scotland, where were likely to see a little bit of drizzly rain overnight. Elsewhere, further south skies , a south and west, clear skies, a few pockets of mist and fog, though, not though, and temperatures not dropping amount. Some dropping a huge amount. Some places above celsius. Places staying above 20 celsius. Tonight a tropical night for some, difficult night for some, but a difficult night for sleeping. A cloudy start. Then down the eastern side of the uk on wednesday. But that low cloud, that murk is going to quite burn back towards quite quickly burn back towards the coast. For of us, i say the coast. For most of us, i say for most because across eastern parts of scotland were likely to to some of that low to hold to on some of that low cloud. Lots cloud. Otherwise, lots of sunshine perhaps sunshine around, but perhaps a bit for some, bit cloudier for some, particularly parts of particularly across parts of northern ireland. Look at those temperatures, though, a little bit than today, bit higher than today, likely to see around 32 or 33 see highs around 32 or 33 celsius into thursday. And theres the chance of some heavy thundery showers making their way northwards up the western side uk , more central and side of the uk, more central and eastern parts of the country are likely to stay dry and sunnier and temperatures are going to be similar to tomorrow. Really, again, likely to see highs of 32 or 33 before something perhaps cooler by the weekend. Cooler by the weekend. Looks like things are heating up, boxt boilers, proud sponsors of weather on. Of weather on. Gb news. Good evening. The energy bill is being voted on in parliament as we speak. Voted on in parliament as we speak. There are potential speak. There are potential provisions that could put you in prison. Yes, you a private householder. If you dont meet up to net zero requirements, how on earth have we got to this point . We also have an exclusive interview with a blade runner, somebody who was going around vandalising a huge number of ulez cameras. Well find out his motivations and ask the moral question. Is what theyre doing right or wrong . And its not right or wrong . And its not just coming home. Its come home. Weve just won the world cup at football. You dont know cup at football. You dont know what its about. Youll find out later on in this show. But before all of that, lets get the news with our Karen Armstrong. Armstrong. Very good evening to you. Im Karen Armstrong in the newsroom. Im the mayor of the West Midlands. Says the financial midlands. Says the Financial Issues affecting Birmingham City council deeply concerning. Council are deeply concerning. And the people there deserve so much better. Europes largest local authorities declared its effectively bankrupt due to a £760 million bill for equal pay claims. The conservative mayor, andy street, says it raises concerns about the way the labour led council has been run. All new spending, with the exception of Vital Services and protecting vulnerable people, will stop immediately. The government is to relax planning permission for new onshore wind farms. The changes which come into force immediately mean communities can apply to their local authority to have turbines built. Local authority to have turbines built. Communities may also benefit from cheaper energy. The government hopes the new rules will help avoid a potential rebellion from some of its backbench peers. The Shadow Energy secretary , ed miliband, energy secretary, ed miliband, says reluctance to build more wind farms has led to Higher Energy costs. Energy costs. The government is being held to ransom by a bunch of tory backbenchers who since 2015 have stopped onshore wind being built in england and that has raised bills for families by £180 for every family in britain, were going through a cost of living crisis. Surely now those in st giles those conservative mps can see that its much better to have onshore wind built and cut bills for families. Bills for families. The schools minister says the government has been very proactive in dealing with the