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Yesterday. And also, if youre to going anybody at to going headbutt anybody at football, really dont want football, you really dont want it to be roy keane, do you. 7 it to be roy keane, do you . Well have your latest and well have your latest Weather Forecast on duty this morning. Alex burkill , hello. Morning. Alex burkill, hello. A little bit of mist and fog around first thing this morning, but otherwise plenty of sunshine and temperatures even and temperatures rising even further as we go through the week. Ill have more later. So it was first day back at school yesterday. Well, not for school yesterday. Well, not for school kids really, but for mps at the houses of parliament and Gillian Keegan amongst the stories fighting to keep her cabinet position this morning after she apologised for claiming she was doing a good job. But she said stronger than that actually. But she was that actually. But she was unaware that she was being recorded. I just want to say , recorded. I just want to say, were you offended by that . Isabel no, i wasnt. Neither was i. No so what is all the fuss . This is a mature woman who uses swear word and. And i think it wasnt the use of the swear word. I wasnt offended by the use of swear words. What i was offended by was the suggestion that she should be thanked for doing a great job when there are childrens lives at risk in classrooms. I think thats probably going wash with probably not going to wash with a who are now a lot of parents who are now having home their children. She hasnt been in the job a yeah she hasnt been in the job a year. She hasnt been in the job a year. And she made the accusation are others accusation that there are others who sitting on their who had been sitting on their backsides and getting away with this the past 15, 20, 30 this for the past 15, 20, 30 years. Whatever and i think its interesting. Than interesting. I think rather than her under threat, the herjob being under threat, the woman should be promoted, absolutely promoted for speaking the home secretary the truth. The home secretary has fire. Has been under fire. Secretary. I think is, secretary. I think she is, yeah. She what . Education secretary well, secretary not home . Well, i thought. Thought. I thought this was a different same one. Different story. No, same one. Oh, anyway has oh, right. Anyway she has been under over past 24 under fire over the past 24 hours for being on holiday. Well, theres a sin. Kill her. I really hate when people attack politicians for having a holiday. Yeah, i do. I think youre entitled to holiday. But anyway , so who knew what and when . Yes. Lots of questions for the government. This morning. And now the chief of the National Audit office. Thats the spending watchdog, has accused the government of using a sticking plaster approach to School Maintenance with thousands children currently thousands of children currently unable to classrooms. Unable to return to classrooms. Right. Heres what object right. Heres what i object to amongst all this to as well. Amongst all this nonsense. So you would think you nonsense. So you would think you and think they and i would think they send round specialists , inspectors to round specialists, inspectors to look this concrete. Right. Look at this concrete. Right. And oh, thats it there, and say, oh, thats it there, thats it there, and it shouldnt be there. Whatever you. No, they send the headmaster or mistress to have a look and then they see any of look and then if they see any of it, theyve seal off that it, theyve got to seal off that corridor instead of sending experts. Its left to an experts. So its left to an amateurs judgement. Whether amateurs judgement. Whether this is there or not. And this stuff is there or not. And then they send around an inspector for probably 12 years from now, and lets speak to political direct and analyst alex crowley on this one. And right. Have you got your knickers in a twist about Gillian Keegan . Whats your view . 7 oh, 7 oh, look, i 7 oh, look, i think . Oh, look, i think that its one of those things where, you know, because i media trained politicians and executives and what have you, and of course, the first thing you say to them is that when youre, when you have a microphone on, you just assume that anything you say may be used. But warning the be used. But the warning the police you, like the police give you, like the lawyer. Obviously , lawyer. Exactly so obviously, from a kind of purely professional perspective , professional perspective, clearly unforced error. Clearly its an unforced error. However, you can understand perhaps some of her frustration. Yes. In the sense that warnings about this were actually they were first raised in the 1960s. They were sort of seriously raised in 1994. Right. So were going back quite a long time. You know, there was time. You know, there was a report in 2002 that the escalated this even further dunng escalated this even further during the period of, you know , during the period of, you know, ten years of Labour Government. Ten years of Labour Government. And it was only very recently that they started to properly check the schools. So this has been going on for years and years and years and years. Yeah and yes. And where i sympathise with her, weve got for instance, nick gibb coming on after 9 00. Nick gibb is the minister of state for education and he seems to have been in a job. That job or jobs like that for 112 years. So was he sitting on his backside . What did he know about it . Rishi sunak he between what we have done is we have invested in whatever. He doesnt talk about how hes half the school budgets. I mean, there has to be there has to be guilt on his hands. Yeah. And i think there is. Yeah. And i think there is. And david cameron. And david cameron. There is. Look, there is. Well look, you could you could you could blame a whole cast actors here a whole cast of actors here about whats been going on. But the real issue, i think, is that this is something this is this this is something this is this this strikes me as classic whitehall. Okay. Classic whitehall. Okay. Classic whitehall. Okay. Classic whitehall is an issue that has been bubbling under the surface for years and years and years that theyve just that just bureaucrats inertia has let develop. And then suddenly, of develop. And then suddenly, of course it explodes one day and it lands in the lap of whichever politician happens to be in the building at the time. And, you know, you could well imagine it was a scenario where, yes, she was a scenario where, yes, she was on holiday and no, she should not be criticised for going on holiday. I agree with you on that one. And suddenly she gets a phone call saying, well, actually, were going to have to close these schools now. And she said, hang on, and then she said, hang on, what, what . But that report came at but that report came in at the beginning august. You the beginning of august. So you could whether not could question whether or not somebody should on somebody should be going on houday somebody should be going on holiday with schools coming back at of september. At the beginning of september. Did was the first did she know was when the first reports the reports were . And i do think the idea that government minister idea that a government minister can and expect to be can come on and expect to be praised when you can see what a catastrophe think catastrophe this is, i think i think whats wrong with the media, huge to the media, a huge favour to the Prime Minister frankly, Prime Minister because frankly, the is about what the story really is about what are Prime Minister did when are now Prime Minister did when he was chancellor and between 2020 2021 and its front 2020 and 2021 and its the front of this morning, of the guardian this morning, department the Department Officials and the department of education were shocked a request fund shocked when a request to fund work at risk from work on 300 schools at risk from crumbling concrete panels was pared later down pared down to 100 and later down to so more than half, you to 50. So more than half, you know, 300 to 50. Know, from 300 to 50. And speaking cynically, yes. And speaking cynically, you downing street is you know, downing street is going to be, you know , not not going to be, you know, not not completely displeased that the focus is on the education secretary at the moment for precisely those reasons. I would, however, say that its probably quite understandable that the department for education officials would seek to shift the blame over to the treasury when its their responsibility to be checking the schools and making sure theyve done well, though apparently thats not the case. That was what i mean, that was what yesterday Gillian Keegan was saying. Local saying. That was the local authoritys responsibility and actually hers check actually it wasnt hers to check on the safety of the building. Yeah and actually it depends, of course, to in course, on whos meant to be in charge which of charge of which building of course, it gets very complicated. It doesnt help, course, it doesnt help, of course, that a story today as that we see a story today as well, that theres lots of officials local government officials in local government that abroad. That routinely work from abroad. You so alex, what want you know, so alex, what i want to is when she shes not to know is when she shes not evenin to know is when she shes not even in this job, a year when she took over the brief was one of the first thing the Civil Servants to her, secretary servants said to her, secretary of state, we need to tell you our schools are falling down. I suspect not. I suspect not. I suspect not. I would like know if they i would like to know if they did her that. Theyll did brief her on that. Theyll never of course, but never tell us, of course, but but if it was such a major issue , then that that that obviously would one of the first would have been one of the first things have been said. I things to have been said. I suspect it because, like suspect it wasnt because, like most there is a most of these things, there is a panic because there wasnt that flow of information. There wasnt those honest discussions prepare laying the ground to say, okay, well, this this is coming down the line and were going to have to deal going to need to have to deal with of course, with this. And now, of course, everyones scrambling to catch with this. And now, of course, eve hm. Es scrambling to catch up. Hm. Interesting. Do you think that she can survive this . I mean, some suggestion that she might the cabinet as might remain in the cabinet as a bit of a lightning rod because she is a bit accident prone that she is a bit accident prone that she actually be quite useful she can actually be quite useful for the Prime Minister to deflect the heat. Deflect a lot of the heat. Yes. I think i think yes. Yes. I think i think its probably quite handy if theres little a of a theres a little bit of a of a row around her position. And again, cynically, again, speaking cynically, although if theres although i would say if theres another of incident like we another sort of incident like we saw yesterday , i think there saw yesterday, i think there will be a bit of extra pressure there. And the Prime Minister might be forced to act. But i dont expect it. The last thing you want to do in a crisis is change the is change the member of the cabinet dealing with it because your focus and energy should be on dealing with the crisis. Speaking of cabinets, big reshuffle in the shadow cabinet yesterday. Of about yesterday. Lots of talk about this being more blairite this being a more blairite cabinet blair. A big cabinet than under blair. A big shift to the Centre Ground under starmer. You know, is this a threat to sort of Centre Ground tories . Tories . I mean, i if you know who any of them are, i mean, you know, theres a couple of blasts from theres a couple of blasts from the past, including a couple of the past, including a couple of the cheerleading remainers, hilary benn, etcetera. Does it hilary benn, etcetera. Does it make huge difference to, to make a huge difference to, to starmers fortunes . No everyone always looks at Cabinet Reshuffle for both parties and they say, well, this is important and this is important here and this is important here and this is important most people important here and this is imporcare. Most people important here and this is imporcare. It most people important here and this is imporcare. It doesntt people important here and this is imporcare. It doesnt itieople dont care. It doesnt it doesnt change doesnt fundamentally change how people the leaders of the people view the leaders of the parties. And i think that would be the same here. And i think labour have got some very talented people in the shadow cabinet. I dont include their leader as one of those actually. And it always strikes me that youve got a good team but a bad manager. There and, and yet if you vote for the team , you get the manager. Yes. Although that assumes yes. Although that assumes that the cabinet actually has any has any power. We that the cabinet actually has any has any power. We think we any has any power. We think we operate in a cabinet system of government, but that hasnt been the case for a long time. It is a Prime Ministerial system of government. The Prime Minister is the most powerful person in the room. They decide and everyone always , everyone always everyone always, everyone always assumes that its cabinet government. Isnt really so government. It isnt really so everyone always says, well , if everyone always says, well, if the team around them is strong, then we we get the benefit then we get a we get the benefit of a strong team and we get all of a strong team and we get all of those positive lives. But its down to the leader its always down to the leader whats going between the whats going on between the leader and the deputy leader. For Angela Rayner there is no doubt no ones going to convince me similar sort of me theyre similar sort of people whatever. Do you people or whatever. What do you think that relationship is and is he stuck with her whether he wants her or not . Well, youve got this bizarre system in the labour party where they have an elected deputy leader, means that it leader, which means that it doesnt leader doesnt matter what the leader thinks they thinks of their deputy, they cant of them. So they cant get rid of them. So they have to put up with them regardless. Now sometimes you get with blair and get a situation with blair and prescott few years prescott going back a few years where they sort of kind where actually they sort of kind of had an understanding of had a had an understanding and it kind of worked because they were two completely different characters, but it sort worked. And the sort of worked. And you have the same with same situation here again with starmer rayner, except starmer and rayner, except this time fairly that time its fairly obvious that starmer would last person starmer would the last person starmer would the last person starmer work is starmer wants to work with is angela has no Angela Rayner, but he has no choice. So they have to make it work. Interesting 21 a 21 word title i believe. The longest title. The longest title. Oh well, she she has to that. Oh well, she she has to that. Cant we . Cant we . Oh. Keeping it nice and keeping her happy. All right. Always good to get your thoughts, alex. Thank you very much. Speak to you again later, alex. Thank you very much indeed. Your views, as usual, very, very welcome. Well feed those welcome. And well feed those in throughout the programme and well you are well reflect what you are thinking. Now police thinking. Now the Police Federation Northern Ireland thinking. Now the police fedecalled Northern Ireland thinking. Now the police fedecalled forNorthern Ireland thinking. Now the police fedecalled for a rthern ireland thinking. Now the police fedecalled for a fullrn ireland has called for a full investigation into the actions of byrne he resigned of simon byrne after he resigned yesterday psni chief yesterday as the psni chief constable. There have been a series of controversies , data series of controversies, data breaches, unlawful discipline , breaches, unlawful discipline, binning of two officers. Were joined now by our Northern Ireland correspondent Dougie Beattie on this one, dougie. So beattie on this one, dougie. So the top man goes goes. It will take a long time to find a successor. I would have thought , well, youre totally correct. Eamonn. It will take a very long time because yesterday , as long time because yesterday, as that meeting broke up, the politicians came out and of course, the policing board is there. Theyre the political accountability, if you like , for accountability, if you like, for the chief con he has to answer to them. Under the good friday agreement and none of them seem to acknowledge the real problems that are here. And the problem really is confidence and trust. Really is confidence and trust. And that confidence and trust has to come from the public. But it really has to come from his rank and file officers, the Police Federation of Northern Ireland. Even as we came on the air, there has been two shootings in west belfast in a nationalist area. Two young men nationalist area. Two young men have been took a punishment shooting as you and i would know. It would be called a kneecapping with a shot in the legs. So what would happen there is the police would have to go in there, set up a cordon and look at this scene of crime. Now, if you look at that and you strip that back, what really the chief constable will be saying to his officers is, i want you to his officers is, i want you to go into area that is to go into an area that is theres a weapon in it. Two men have already been shot and i want you to go in there and secure the scene. Now those Young Police Officers need to have confidence that that Police Management is with them and that they will have their backs at all times. And really, in the last three years, that has been very much missing inside Northern Irelands Police Service and the policing board extended the contract of the chief constable, not more than a year ago. So the Police Federation took a case against the chief constable for unlawful discipline of two young officers because of what is now judged to because of what is now judged to be political interference. And be political interference. And really the Police Federation are saying when we had to go that far , why did we have to go that far, why did we have to go that far . Why didnt the policing board hold it, the account . Why didnt the Police Management inside the chief Constable Office listened to us . And really that Management Team inside the chief Constables Office is still in place. Dcc office is still in place. Dcc Mark Hamilton is now effectively the chief constable of Northern Ireland. So nothing has really changed as far as the federation are concerned. And worse than that, its harder now for the policing board to actually appoint another chief constable because really who on earth would want the job . Do you know what that was going to be . My next question to you. Byrne comes from cheshire. You. Byrne comes from cheshire. In the last he looked after the Cheshire Police force before this and in the last 24 hours we have a man shot dead. Weve had have a man shot dead. Weve had a fatal stabbing. And the two kneecappings that youve talked about there, i mean this is no ordinary beat, no , its ordinary beat, no, its definitely not. And have to walk not only a line of management with your own rank and file , but then to have rank and file, but then to have to walk in a line politically as well. I mean, gerry kelly came out yesterday from sinn fein and said that he was robust in his conversations with the chief constable around those arrests in the ormeau road. So it takes a person with a very, very rare skill set to be the chief constable of Northern Ireland and a very good understanding historically of what has went on here. So were there going to find this new set of skills from is well beyond belief in a very short time. So really and truly, were looking at probably a year here without a chief constable. Here without a chief constable. Good enough . Not good enough. Dougie thank you very much indeed. Appreciate your analysis. Now, 616 lets bring you up to date with the rest of todays top stories in the house of lords has placed a new duty on the government to reduce the loss key in person as loss key in Person Services as part of the levelling up bill, defeating the government in the lords. The amendment will aim to safeguard high banks, safeguard high street banks, post machines post offices and cash machines as 1 in 4 of you say you couldnt afford an unexpected bill if it was around £200. Polling found that 28 of you said the rise in the cost of living has made you feel financially insecure and keeping up with bills and credit repayments was maybe too heavy a burden. Burden. Consumers are calling out supermarkets as more than half say theyve noticed so called skimp flation , which has lowered skimp flation, which has lowered the quality of food and drink products. Inflation is, of course, the downgrade in the quality of ingredients in certain products, while the price remains the same. You know price remains the same. You know that thats inflation. Do they take us for idiots . Do they take us for idiots . You know that you dont see that the ingredients have changed or the ingredients have changed or the size have changed or i mean, everything is just its just i dont know , rip off britain. Dont know, rip off britain. Thats what it is. But happier times. Those who schools are open and the kids who cant go back to school and this is why you werent here yesterday. It wasnt yesterday. Yes, because we had our first day of school for my littlest one, poppy, school for my littlest one, poppy, and just to say thats why i wasnt in yesterday. There she proud her she is, all proud in her uniform, head inside, uniform, about to head inside, and came out skipping and and she came out skipping and happy, which is all. You really . Thats good. Yeah we dont know yet this schools going to be yet if this schools going to be one of the ones with problems with concrete. We not. She with concrete. We hope not. She looks oh poor thing. Looks like you. Oh poor thing. Yeah , she. Yeah, she. Yeah, she. Yeah, she. Yeah, shes a little cutie, but then ive got my sons first day on thursday, so weve got all this again because his birthday or his first day. His first day, first school as first day, first new school as well. Oh its a big week. Well. So. Oh its a big week. Very good. In our household. Very good. In our household. Lets see what the and lets see what the weathers going to be like on that apparently. That big week, apparently. Very good. Burkill, that good. Heres alex burkill, that warm feeling inside from boxt boilers. Proud sponsors of weather on. Gb news. Hello very good morning to you. There is a little bit of mist and fog to watch out for. First thing this morning. But once that clears, therell be plenty of hot sunshine around, although out for some although watch out for some strong winds in the south west taking a look at the details. And yes, once any mist and fog clears away, be plenty clears away, therell be plenty of across the bulk of of sunshine across the bulk of the uk. The exception perhaps being north of scotland, being the far north of scotland, where there is a front lingering here, bringing a bit of cloud and spots of and perhaps a few spots of drizzly as well. Otherwise drizzly rain as well. Otherwise lots of sunshine. Watch out for some strong, winds in some strong, blustery winds in the they will the south west and they will take the edge off the temperatures little but temperatures a little bit. But for its going be for many, its going to be a little hotter than it was little bit hotter than it was yesterday. Highs around 31 celsius towards south east celsius towards the south east later today , we going to later on today, we are going to see cloud drifting in see some low cloud drifting in from north so some ha from the north sea. So some ha some sea fret affecting parts of eastern scotland and eastern North Eastern england. Low clouds , some murky conditions clouds, some murky conditions here further south and west, clearer skies. But here further south and west, clearer skies. But i am expecting some mist and fog patches to develop and temperatures, again, not dropping a huge amount. So its dropping a huge amount. So its likely be another relatively likely to be another relatively warm for of us as we warm night for most of us as we go through wednesday itself. A slow , murky start then for some slow, murky start then for some eastern North Eastern parts. But that low cloud should gradually burn the coast for burn back towards the coast for most the exception, perhaps around eastern parts of scotland. I expecting the low scotland. I am expecting the low cloud here to linger. Well into the afternoon. Otherwise, yes , the afternoon. Otherwise, yes, it may be a touch cloudier than some recent days, plenty of some recent days, but plenty of sunshine and sunshine to be had and temperatures could be even higher with highs around higher still with highs around 32 celsius that warm feeling inside from boxt boilers proud sponsors of weather on. Gb news. I love this weather. Do you love this weather . I do love this weather. I do love this weather. I do love this weather. I mean, it is hot, but i love it hot at one stage yesterday, i went out to the back garden. Good. It was it was 3 00 in the afternoon. I thought, itll be temperate enough. The temperature 20 degrees, but temperature was 20 degrees, but it 40. Yeah, i could stick it felt 40. Yeah, i could stick it felt 40. Yeah, i could stick it for 20 minutes. It was so hot. Yeah, that is true. We dont do heat. Dry heat, do we . We do some muggy so its kind of some muggy heat, so its kind of unbearable. How it unbearable. It is funny how it can be warmer with cloud and it can be warmer with cloud and it can be warmer with cloud and it can be cooler without cloud. If you get a bit of breeze or whatever. But there was no breeze yesterday and it was hot, hot, hot, hot, hot, hot. You talk about that shrink flation or whatever. There are certain lollipops that sort of lollipops that i was sort of trying sampling just just to see. You know , just to see. Yes. You know, just to regress my childhood and regress into my childhood and there, there, there , theyre all there, there, there, theyre all tiny. Theyre or else my mouths got bigger. Tiny. Theyre or else my mouths got bigger. Im not tiny. Theyre or else my mouths got bigger. Im not exactly sure got bigger. Im not exactly sure what it is talking about. Big mouths. Paul coyte with all the latest sports stories at Britains Jack Draper knocked out of the us open welcome back. Its 623. Still to come on the program, just after seven, were talking all things labour reshuffle. Were things labour reshuffle. Were going to be asking if their election plan is just reheated. Blairism and if it was. Whats wrong with that 7 20 schools being another major expense that the government cant seem to afford . Well, how do they afford it . What about cutting the foreign aid budget . It seems to be a popular idea amongst a lot of people, but not with the politicians. With the politicians. And wed love to hear your views. Gb views gbnews. Com. Or you can tweet us or whatever its called these days us at. Gb its called these days us at. Gb news. Thats a very good point actually. Yeah, its very well not so sexy. I like it less than ever. I must say. Yeah yeah. Yeah. Sorry, elon. Sorry, elon. Sorry, elon. Oh, theres so many. Oh, no. Cant even go into conspiracy theories and whatever. Whatever. Back pages is. Schools trafford , this is the starjadon sancho. , this is the star jadon sancho. Hes, you know, he wasnt happy with his boss. Hes now going to be fined by united for social media outburst youd been out the door of fergie had had been in charge and the mirror leads the same story. See the rift between sancho and erik. Ten hag is said to have reached breaking point. Meanwhile, the mirror point. Meanwhile, the mirror leads with the us open. This is the tennis jack draper crashes out of the last 16. Whats that around his neck . What is that . Around his neck . What is that . Paul its like a dead sheep. Its a huge white sausage that hes got around his neck. Yeah, its harry kanes white bavarian white sausage. Bavarian white sausage. Do you like white pudding . Do do you like white pudding . Do you know this black pudding . No. No. If its white, it just. I was in norway and i had and had the white. And maybe if i didnt see it. Yes, its the whiteness of the sausage. Its the blacks. Okay. Its the blacks. Okay. Yeah. Yeah yeah. Yeah i dont know what it was just something. Its because it looks kind of like its not cooked. Like a baby lamb or yeah, or like a baby lamb or something. Oh, goodness. So what was his neck, a was that round his neck, like a heat or. I dont know. Heat pad or. I dont know. No. No, no. No, no. Come back to some Research Required on that. Its not good. Its terrible. Us. I could say. Yes. It is. Its a lard. Yes. What it is. Its a lard. There look at that. Its there we are. Look at that. Its probably id imagine thats probably ice. Id imagine thats because very hot because its very, very hot there. So thats probably because thing is, i can tell because the thing is, i can tell you a bad shoulder you that had a bad shoulder injury. Okay probably injury. Okay so this is probably the reason not so much the reason its not so much round neck. Its across the round his neck. Its across the shoulder the shoulder because thats the problems had. Problems that hes had. So six 3 3, 66364. Even two out isabel pointed out to me out to isabel pointed out to me a russian. Yes andre rublev. I personally have a problem with russians being allowed to play in in major tournaments so forgotten. Yes. Nobody seems to make any fuss about it. Its the same as everything. Its like the whole saudi arabia, saudi arabia in sport. Oh, we cant do this. We cant have boxing here because of human rights record, because of human rights record, because of football. After of football. And then after a couple of fights and after a couple of fights and after a couple of fights and after a couple of games or whatever, its all forgotten about. Its all but i feel its all forgotten about. Its all same but i feel its all forgotten about. Its all same way but i feel its all forgotten about. Its all same way aboutbut i feel its all forgotten about. Its all same way about russians the same way about russians playing. Its not its playing. They say its not its not on the players, but not fair. On the players, but i dont like it either. But but jack drapers really well jack drapers done really well and the last 16, as and hes got to the last 16, as we mentioned, hes had injuries, couldnt at wimbledon and couldnt play at wimbledon and hes a great young hope for us. The other interesting one is, are you familiar with Jennifer Pegula . Now she is the american number one really good tennis player , world number three. But player, world number three. But because shes just got knocked out as well, shes now the highest ranked player ever. Never to win a grand slam. So im looking at the psychology of this. You know, i try and look deep into whats going on. Now, her parents own the Buffalo Bills , us football , american bills, us football, american football side. Theyre billionaires now terry and kim pegula she attractive shes shes fairly attractive. Yeah. Shes fairly attractive. Yeah. What has that got to do with where are we going with organise an interview. An interview. Okay. Okay. Well, honestly with that money im you know but the thing is that is that will to win there you know you can only get so far shes not got the hunger because shes a rich girl. Correct. Half the tennis players are rich girls. Yeah Serena Williams is real Serena Williams mould is real rare. Most of them are from very wealthy play wealthy because they play because playing in because they grow up playing in country because they grow up playing in countrcetera. But when youre et cetera. But when youre talking billionaires , talking about billionaires, multi billionaires get involved in tennis elite tennis players who want to win. It because want to do it because they want to become wealthy. I think if you ive been watching break points, im an expert now. All of them just want to win. Its like an obsession. I with the obsession. I agree with the title, but theres a hunger. That comes from theres that comes from somewhere, from wanting. Weve seen lots of people in seen that in lots of people in different, in different, you know, in different, you know, in different life, different walks of life, especially in business and especially in this business and then sport. And the then in sport. And often the ones get that extra bit, ones that get that extra bit, theres an anger, theres a hunger there. And i wonder whether its there with jennhen whether its there with jennifer, being a little jennifer, am i being a little unfair, you think . Depends if unfair, do you think . Depends if youve hunger to eat youve got the hunger to eat a white sausage not. White sausage or not. Have the hunger. See, i dont have the hunger. See, i dont have the hunger. Im too nice. Do you see . I dont have it. Im too. I dont want white sausage, the want the white sausage, the hunger win manchester hunger to win at Manchester United. United. Hag and you know, he erik ten hag and you know, he talks about being a winner. He doesnt think jadon sancho mentally up to this. Sancho mentally is up to this. Sancho is basically saying, come on, give me a break and ten hag will not take disciplinary action. Well, theyre unhappy. A ten well, theyre unhappy. A ten hag is unhappy and the team are unhappy because they feel theyve given jadon sancho a lot since he hasnt been playing well and theyve helped him out. Theyve sent him over to the netherlands train mentally netherlands to train mentally whether hes in the right place as well. They saying, as well. They theyre saying, look, everything we look, weve done everything we can. They now feel that hes can. So they now feel that hes betrayed them. And, you know, betrayed them. And, you know, i cant see how this is going to end because youve got a player and a manager. I was always going come going to come out. I would say united want i would say united would want to offload somewhere, but to offload them somewhere, but at 73 million or whatever and transfer window is now closed. Yeah. So whether its for january or whatever it happens to be. But see, unless he burned his bridges, unless he, you know, we can really look but you can really look good, but you see there will be a lot of players who havent flourished and the transfer policy at united be questioned. United will be questioned. It is a real, real mess. But you would imagine that from how he did it, borussia dortmund, he would be fine, but it just worked out. But it just hasnt worked out. But this is when theres another jinx here. Anthony hes brazilian and brazil have dropped him from their squad. Why . He cost £84 million. Allegations of abuse by his former girlfriend who is accused of attacking his former girlfriend. And this was in girlfriend. And this was in a Manchester Hotel back in january. So the story has been going around for a little while. Hes denied the whole thing. So hes denied the whole thing. So now it looks like theres Police Involved in this as well. So obviously, second obviously, its a second allegation Domestic Abuse allegation of Domestic Abuse because whats happened because we know whats happened with greenwood as well, with Mason Greenwood as well, whos now gone off to gadhafi to play whos now gone off to gadhafi to play them. So brazil have play for them. So brazil have decided are going to decided that they are going to drop hes not to play drop him. Hes not going to play in friendlies that are in these friendlies that are coming and well coming up now. And now well have to see what Manchester United are do. Theres united are going to do. Theres no word from Manchester United, but like but its almost like another thing that has has come across them. In a similar vein. Them. In a similar vein. Heres heres something physical violence, again, very disturbing , physical violence, again, very disturbing, saying this was at the emirates on sunday. Roy keane attacked headbutted brave man or a very drunk man to have done that. But theres a picture done that. But theres a picture of this guy. Done that. But theres a picture of this guy. Its in the sun. Wheres the sun disappeared to . Yeah, its on the front page of the sun. Yeah. This yeah. We have to go to the video. So this guy , hes been video. So this guy, hes been restrained by Micah Richards here. Now he looks all quite relaxed and thuggish there, but apparently he headbutted roy keane. Apparently he headbutted roy keane. The thing is, theres keane. The thing is, theres a picture of him in the sun today and hes all suited and booted. Shirt, tie , shirt and tie. Bit shirt, tie, shirt and tie. Bit of an executive , my friend. Yeah of an executive, my friend. Yeah i know , i know. I know, i know. If you see some of the its an expensive ticket hes got you know it doesnt matter how much money youve got it doesnt buy class in situations like that. And sometimes ive seen it before , if basically the before if, if what basically the story that theres Roy Keane Story is that theres roy keane is celebrating the Manchester United goal or not goal as the case may be. Yeah. Arsenal fan this in front if ever you get and you know that if ever you get an away fan in an area where theres home fans i mean i had it with brentford do you remember that remember i talked about that itd be careful. Itd be really careful. Yeah. With your son in that situation, you have to keep a lid on it. Well, hes there the well, hes there in the punditry for sky, hes punditry studio for sky, so hes celebrating and then another guy is umbrage at that and is taking umbrage at that and looks around then goes and looks around and then goes and goes. Looks around and then goes and goes. Of anybody go after goes. Of anybody you go after roy are you crazy . Yeah. Roy keane, are you crazy . Yeah. So anyway, this guy goes to headbutt. Roy keane misses lands headbutt. Roy keane misses lands on roy keanes shoulder and breaks his nose as hes actually doing. He broke his nose, not roy keane. So he broke his own nose trying to headbutt roy keane by missing arm on his shoulder. Yeah, i think there is karma there. And do i have any sympathy . No none whatsoever. But ridiculous. But its ridiculous. People need to really grow up. They really do. Up. They really do. Oh, crying out loud. Oh, for crying out loud. Oh, for crying out loud. Ive seen, know, men. And ive seen, you know, men. My and ive seen, you know, men. My age taking out their anger on ten year old kids. Ive seen you know, no matter how and we were talking yesterday, how upset i was at the defeat on on sunday, i dont want to take a bottle and smash it over someones head or headbutt somebody as a result of or whatever. But i mean, of it or whatever. But i mean, theres emotion in sport and in football more than anything else. I feel it. You feel it. We are very excited when our team is doing well and when theres bad results, etcetera. But theres a line and you think as a human being, surely theres something that goes off. Also, i want mention , have you heard want to mention, have you heard whats in have we whats happened in leon . Have we got for to mention leon . Got time for to mention leon . Yeah, heard whats yeah, ive heard whats happened leon. Yeah. This is happened in leon. Yeah. This is absolutely amazing. This absolutely incredible. So leon lewis, whatever, home lewis, for one or whatever, home to saint germain. Lewis, for one or whatever, home to yeah,raint germain. Lewis, for one or whatever, home to yeah, right. 3ermain. Yeah, right. Yeah, right. And the crowd began to so and the crowd began to kick about it. Leon are kick off about it. Leon are bottom. W e really badly theyre doing really badly this season. But the players as symbol. Yes and they face crowd and yes and they face the crowd and the guys got a megaphone. Yeah, the guys got a megaphone. Yeah, yeah. Tell us more. Yeah. Tell us more. So. So thats it. You pretty much summed it up. Theyve lost. Theyve lost 4 1 to psg. Theyre having a horrendous season. Theyve lost 4 1 to psg. Theyre having are orrendous season. Theyve lost 4 1 to psg. Theyre having are not1dous season. Theyve lost 4 1 to psg. Theyre having are not going season. Theyve lost 4 1 to psg. Theyre having are not going well n. Theyve lost 4 1 to psg. Theyre having are not going well for things are not going well for them. So theres ultras in Different Countries that often have a big say in what goes on. So anyway, see this fella here . Yeah, hes in the crowd. Hes got his own microphone on. Hes got his own microphone on. Hes got his own pr and hes shouting at the players. Hes saying to you, olympic lyonnais squad, the message to you. I message is addressed to you. I could do it in french accent, could do it in a french accent, but wont. To some you but i wont. To some of you already who assume the status of the dressing room leaders, the message there are message is clear. There are leaders the dressing room. Message is clear. There are leadeno the dressing room. Message is clear. There are leadeno longeriressing room. Message is clear. There are leadeno longer have1g room. Message is clear. There are leade no longer have the om. Message is clear. There are leade no longer have the right to they no longer have the right to remain goes on and remain silent. He goes on and the look that. They the players look at that. They have their medicine. Have to take their medicine. Theyre their watching theyre standing their watching thisi its quite them. I think its quite them. I think its quite them. Them a real mouth. Give them a real mouth. Give them a real mouth. But i think its quite brave. I think thats quite strong of them. Of the players . Yes, of i think thats quite strong of the|players. 3 players . Yes, of the players. I wondered, was it their choice were they told, choice or were they told, listen, do yourself a favour. You stand and listen you stand there and listen to this. Ive actually this. But when ive actually read what the what the man said in the crowd, it was nothing offensive. He has offensive. I mean, he has had a go and said, you know, some of you are not fit to wear the shirt, we expect passion. We shirt, but we expect passion. We want want support you. You want we want to support you. You need to do your as well. But need to do your bit as well. But its incredible got its incredible where youve got the are telling the the crowd that are telling the players to do. Whereas players not to do. Whereas laurent the french laurent blanc, the French International cup winner, International World cup winner, hes the manager. He was probably them it, let probably given them do it, let them of the great them do part of the great theatre, which is football. Exactly what paul thank you. Well bring the curtain down on you. Back again later. Well bring the curtain down on youi back again later. Well bring the curtain down on youi dont back again later. Well bring the curtain down on youi dont know. Again later. Well bring the curtain down on youi dont know. Iven later. Well bring the curtain down on youi dont know. Ive got ter. Well bring the curtain down on youi dont know. Ive got white i dont know. Ive got white sausage for greggs for an eggs, apparently on ice, but an apparently it was on ice, but an ice pack, one of our. So i was. I was correct. You were spot on, right . The shoulder. Right . Yeah the shoulder. Man. Okay, paul, thanks good man. Okay, paul, thanks very cheers very much indeed. Cheers us. In a moment, do stay with us. In a moment, were to going talking about were to going be talking about this fat jab. It could save this new fat jab. It could save the nhs millions. Lots in the papers that today. Emily papers about that today. Emily next welcome back. Were going through the papers this morning. Lets take a look at your newspaper front pages, starting with the telegraph leading with newspaper front pages, starting witieducationjraph leading with newspaper front pages, starting witieducation secretary, ng with newspaper front pages, starting witieducation secretary, gilliani the education secretary, Gillian Keegan, fighting her job. Keegan, fighting for her job. They after yesterdays they say after yesterdays hot mic , the times got mic gaffe, the times got concrete crisis as well. Concrete crisis as well. The hand of the spending watchdog is accused the government of a sticking plaster approach which has the i leading with Keir Starmers decision to promote mps from the tony blair era in what they call a final reshuffle before next years general election and the daily express. The miracle weight loss express. The miracle weight loss jab. And it claims it could save the lives of millions and cut £6. 5 billion from the nhs obesity bill. And joining us to go through the papers in more detail this morning, we have columnist for conservative home and gb news presenter emily carver and the writer journalist andy jones presenter emily carver and the writ on holiday very late in august when the exam results were coming out. Could she have acted quicker when it came to these bills , buildings, these schools . Bills, buildings, these schools . Its a tricky one really, because this is a problem that clearly has been known of for many years. But should the conservative government really have done something sooner . Are there people in whitehall that are to blame . Are there other are to blame . Are there other people in education who should have flagged this sooner . I have flagged this sooner . I mean, it all seems to have been a panic since there was one incident in one school and now theyre scrambling around trying to fix this. And of course, the school terms already begun. So its all bit of a mess. Its all a bit of a mess. I dont know. What do you mean . Theres one incident one theres one incident in one school. Youre basically saying this is all out of this is all blown out of proportion. No, no, no. Im saying is that what im saying is that theyve only started panicking about to find a about it and trying to find a solution when there is solution to this when there is an surely there an actual incident. Surely there should some should have been some pre planning. Thats the pre planning. But thats the thats, thats thats, you know, thats government pretty government for you. Pretty useless. Mic rant, useless. This hot mic rant, though not sure id call it though im not sure id call it a rant. It reminds me a bit of the Gillian Duffy case. Do you remember when gordon brown was caught . Oh that bigoted woman calling a woman bigoted because she was concerned about immigration . An i think and these sorts of things can bring down ministers its down ministers and its certainly a good for certainly not a good look for the government really , is it . The government really, is it . Rishi scrambling around to rishi sunak scrambling around to try and improve their polling ratings. And just going ratings. And its just going terribly badly. Do you think it was worse that swore or that she was that she swore or that she was talking about people sitting on their dot dot dots and id quite like she was referring. Yeah, its worth not just looking at fact that looking at the fact that she spoke of but who is spoke out of turn, but who is she speaking about . And it wasnt just a hot moment. It wasnt just a hot mic moment. It wasnt just a hot mic moment. It was camera. I mean, she was a hot camera. I mean, she was a hot camera. I mean, she was still on camera. Gasbag in a way, but shes talking about government inaction here, whether her whether thats government in her own department, whether thats whitehall, the whitehall, whether thats the prime worth whitehall, whether thats the prime that worth whitehall, whether thats the prime that rishi worth whitehall, whether thats the prime that rishi sunak orth whitehall, whether thats the prime that rishi sunak cut the knowing that rishi sunak cut the budget schools, repairs budget for the schools, repairs himself. And looking here budget for the schools, repairs hira;elf. And looking here budget for the schools, repairs hira systemi looking here budget for the schools, repairs hira system where looking here budget for the schools, repairs hira system where gillian; here at a system where Gillian Mckeith made made herself mckeith has made a made herself the twice here. The story twice here. Keegan. Keegan. Gillian sorry, isnt Gillian Keegan sorry, isnt she . A health story in she . Ive got a health story in a moment. Perhaps she should run the department. Yeah. Yeah maybe. Gillian keegan i do apologise. Gillian keegan has made twice made herself the story twice this week. Were talking about made herself the story twice this spendingzre talking about made herself the story twice thisspending 32 talking about made herself the story twice thisspending 32 million about made herself the story twice thisspending 32 million on out her spending 32 million on a refit of her of her governmental offices moment offices this week, a moment where apparently where theres apparently not enough these enough money to fix these schools teachers schools and their teachers properly. Yeah, to pay properly. Yeah, or to pay teachers. Wait wait teachers. Wait a minute. Wait a minute, minute. Minute, wait a minute. In fairness, the woman has beenin in fairness, the woman has been in the job ten months. The refit, but she still signed it through refit office through the refit of the office was signed. Well was organised and signed. Well whether she signed it off or not, it had been. Organised for not, it had been. Organised for a long time ago. The look is not good. It has to be said. The look is not good. But the idea i think its about time ministers stood up, told the truth, spoke like Gillian Keegan, and said, for instance, look, give me a break. This job break. Ive been in this job x amount. Dont know. Ill come amount. I dont know. Ill come back an answer with you back with an answer with you tomorrow or whatever about this. The reporters the idea for that. Reporters expect got the expect theyve now got the pubuc expect theyve now got the public expect that public to expect that politicians know the answer to everything. Of course they dont. And politicians make the mistake by pretending they know the to everything. The answer to everything. And lets remember, she has a whole Department Working with her. Of things her. These sorts of things should flagged, put on should have been flagged, put on her. She should have been her desk. She should have been told this is getting to a crisis point. We to deal with point. We need to deal with this. So easy this. And its so easy to always, always the always, always blame the minister for absolute minister in charge for absolute everything. Is not out everything. But she is not out a bossin everything. But she is not out a boss in the same way as the ceo of itv is. She cant be across absolutely everything but the Civil Service. Wrong things. But you know, sunak wheedles his way out of this and he cut the budgets all that time ago. And then he does that time ago. And then he does that double speak politicians often what we really want i think what the important thing is, the important thing is you cut the budget in half and when Gillian Keegan became education secretary ten months ago, was she told by her Civil Servants , she told by her Civil Servants, first thing minister , this is a first thing minister, this is a huge problem. Kids could die because of this. I doubt it. Well, thats what we should find out. Thats what, you know, our journalists, find out. Thats what, you know, ourjournalists, broadcasters need to find out whether it is all of her fault because obviously the labour party are going to say it is because theyre in opposition and its to easy pick on the minister. But yes, theres more to find out. I about this. Out. I think about this. Lets about wait, they lets talk about wait, they express miracle weight express and a miracle weight loss drug is this this wahaca up some whatever it is, the diabetes the diabetes drug. So there are two drugs that are broadly in this family. Theres a zembic and wegovy, which i think are brand names of each other. They become in each other. And they become in dispersible , theyre dispersible term s, theyre talking dispersible terms, theyre talking about £65 billion being saved by giving people this weight drug. This will be weight loss drug. This will be by 27, 20, 28. This is particularly for people with type 2 diabetes. People particularly with weight issues. They believe that this will help you shed around 15 of your body weight. Im you shed around 15 of your body weight. Im not sure how quickly that happens or indeed how healthy it is to quickly lose that much weight, that quickly. But other papers are running front page of the times talking about threat about the genuine threat of pubuc about the genuine threat of public about losing public safety, not about losing weight, going online weight, but people going online and alternatives fake and getting alternatives or fake versions these drugs or not versions of these drugs or not chemically proven or health regulated versions of these drugs. There are people going online, front page of the times talking about going on, buying versions drugs , versions of these drugs, desperate to have same desperate to have the same effect. Johnsons effect. Boris johnsons apparently jeremy apparently taken it. Jeremy clarksons taken it. Clarksons apparently taken it. The. Do the times says. But do be careful where get it from. Careful where you get it from. You can get it. Were talking about it prescribed by about getting it prescribed by the you cant wait that the nhs. If you cant wait that long, get it from places long, you can get it from places like boots and superdrug, but it costs £200 a month. And i suppose better way of suppose what better way of losing being losing weight than not being able afford to eat . Able to afford to eat . There a worldwide shortage is there a worldwide shortage of i read because of it . Did i read because theres such a huge surge in demand . I would love to know what what what its made from and what were suddenly to try and were suddenly mining to try and stop eating too much because stop us eating too much because its suppressant. Its an appetite suppressant. Ultimately we suddenly its an appetite suppressant. Ultimjust we suddenly its an appetite suppressant. Ultimjust the we suddenly its an appetite suppressant. Ultimjust the worlds; suddenly its an appetite suppressant. Ultimjust the worlds goneienly were just the worlds gone crazy we need with crazy because we need help with our appetite. Crazy because we need help with ourwell,tite. Crazy because we need help with ourwell, of. Crazy because we need help with ourwell, of course, if maybe if well, of course, if maybe if we had not been locked for we had not been locked down for so and were all now so long and were all now working from home, its amazing, isnt dont go and isnt it, when you dont go and get own shop and you get it get your own shop and you get it delivered, you dont go anywhere. Rather to anywhere. Rather than the bed to the the kitchen, and the fridge, to the kitchen, and then dont travel to work. Then you dont travel to work. That putting that people start putting dramatically on weight. Rather amusing that i find it rather amusing that its people Jeremy Clarkson its people like Jeremy Clarkson who taking drug because who are taking this drug because in states it seems be the in the states it seems to be the people made it people whove made it fashionable. Whether theyve taken im not sure. Taken it or not, im not sure. But people like the kardashians and sort of female and other sort of female celebrities want celebrities who just want to shed a few so they look shed a few pounds so they look good dresses the red good in their dresses on the red carpet. Yeah thought Boris Johnson and who thought Boris Johnson and jeremy be influencers . Well, i dont want be well, i dont want to be mean, but it doesnt seem to have worked particularly well for either. Said it didnt well, boris said it didnt work him. He felt sick. Well, boris said it didnt wori well, boris said it didnt wori well, boris said it didnt wori well, boris said it didnt wori i believe that is the point. It makes you feel terribly sick and therefore your and therefore you lose your appetite. Dont know if appetite. But i dont know if id switch my appetite for feeling it feeling sick all the time. It sounds like morning sickness. Yourself feel and then make yourself feel and then youve appetite youve got no appetite and youve got no appetite and youve no because its youve got no money because its £200 a month. Thats fine. Thing about this is there the thing about this is there are series are or theres a series on apple called dopesick. I think it is. And the one im watching is on netflix painkiller. Is on netflix called painkiller. And about the opioid opioid and its about the opioid Opioid Crisis the usa. It is crisis in the usa. And it is scary to watch. Watched both how good ive watched both how good have you been . Its fascinating , terrible but depressing as well. And how they create tablets that will get you well, but not well enough so that youll always need. And they and they are addictive so youll want an increase in your dosage and people get very , very rich out people get very, very rich out of all this. It really was of all of this. It really was quite sad and they prescribed me doses as well about doses for gardner as well about all that goes on in all the stuff that goes on in pharma and all the meds. And they also made film out and they also made a film out of didnt they . Its just of it, didnt they . Its just its corrupt medicine. Yeah, well, fentanyl originally well, fentanyl was originally a painkiller, wasnt it . Its 100 stronger and its 100 times stronger than heroin and all this sort of stuff. And im thinking, well, why drug that why have you made a drug that strong anyway, right, right. Oh, well, go. Oh, well, lets go. Oh, well, lets go. Oh, well, lets go. Oh, lets talk about personality traits and couples. Apparently, theyve discovered personality traits and couples. Appithatly, theyve discovered personality traits and couples. Appithat opposites discovered now that opposites actually dont. Emily, is in dont attract. Emily, this is in the mail. Dont attract. Emily, this is in the yes,l. Dont attract. Emily, this is in the yes, this is in the mail. Let yes, this is in the mail. Let me just turn to this. Theyve done this big survey and yes, that adage is not true, according all statistics according to all the statistics that theyve anyway. So that theyve found anyway. So you are most likely to couple up with someone who shares your similar traits. So when it comes to political religious attitudes, of education, attitudes, level of education, certain measures of intelligence also height, and theyre worried actually that if you know too many , that will have extremes of many, that will have extremes of height. If people many, that will have extremes of height. If people only couple up with people who are the same size as but yeah, this is size as them, but yeah, this is quite interesting because i always thought this. I mean, youre hardly going to go with someone whos a complete opposite of maybe you would someone whos a complete oprasite of maybe you would someone whos a complete opra fewof maybe you would someone whos a complete opra few months,iaybe you would someone whos a complete opra few months, but e you would someone whos a complete opra few months, but itsu would someone whos a complete opra few months, but its not ould for a few months, but its not going last, is it . Think going to last, is it . I think you have to have similarities is absolutely key. Yeah. Think background in yeah. I think background in families is definitely key because all because when your families all come could be come together, there could be nothing i remember nothing worse than i remember interviewing a psychologist once and key things and there are certain key things that have with your that you have to have with your partner thats sort of like three out of five and like same educational background as one, same religion, same political beliefs. Theres a whole list of things and if you score three out of five on all of this, youll do youll do quite well. But ignore it at your peril. But ignore it at your peril. Its good to have a few things to disagree about, though, isnt it . I think its good to go and have a discussion. I think it puts a bit of excitement into a relationship. I think when you just agree on something that means if already know what means if i already know what my wifes going about wifes going to say about something, wont. Something, then i wont. A discussion. She likes a discussion. Thats youve got in common. Yeah. Okay. Yeah. Okay. Discussing things, you know, you like that . You can have a frank conversation. Yeah you like that . You can have a frank yeah,rsation. Yeah you like that . You can have a frank yeah, yeah. |. Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah. She discusses. I listen. She. She discusses. I listen. Thats how works. Thats how it works. But thats skill. That is but thats a skill. That is a skill in itself, which i dont possess. But that is, that possess. Yes, but that is, that is why coming on here is why i like coming on here because i get speak. Because i get to speak. Its quite interesting because it says that people match up their medical match up to by their medical condition i said condition ins and wait i said height before. So its physical attributes as as whats going on in as well as whats going on in your head. Your head. I just went for the opposite of the one before when i chose my husband. So it wasnt opposite to me. Just wanted opposite to me. I just wanted that didnt work. Ill try this. I think a lot of people do that bumble along here. That as they bumble along here. Go to sleep this week. We all go to sleep this week. Andy going to be very, very andy its going to be very, very hot throughout the week, which is a nice thing. A good thing. But a lot of people find that difficult get a good difficult then to get a good nights sleep. Difficult then to get a good nights i think were all yes, i think were all struggling with a bit of productivity at the moment. But lets look on the plus side. A last summer blast. Weve had no summer all summer and its nice to have hot week and it very to have a hot week and it very much caught me out last yesterday when i got dressed and i walked out as if it was autumn and a very quick wardrobe and it was a very quick wardrobe change and i think you enjoy it. Tropical soon tropical nights will soon be moaning about the wind moaning about the snow, the wind , for the kids, isnt , the rain for the kids, isnt it . I mean, they had really hot weatherjust i mean, they had really hot weather just before the i mean, they had really hot weatherjust before the schools weather just before the schools broke schools broke up. Broke up. The schools broke up. It solidly for eight it rained solidly for six, eight weeks. It is. And now weeks. Whatever it is. And now theyre in uniforms. Theyre back in their uniforms. And it seems happen all theyre back in their uniforms. Time. seems happen all the time. I remember my mum was a teacher and she used to say the first week back at school was always just disgusting. Hot. Yeah. Dont, you yeah. Because they dont, you know, dont have the know, they dont have the facilities to keep it cool. Well, least now theyre well, at least now theyre not in School Buildings. Not allowed in School Buildings. Its they can be its not raining and they can be in classroom outside. In the classroom outside. Guys, see you again in 40 minutes time. And andy minutes time. Emily and andy jones thank jones there. Thank you. Documents trips documents relating to trips taken by Prince Andrew will remain secret for another 30 years, meaning they wont be released. Probably in his lifetime. The revelation follows a freedom of information request by the royal author Andrew Lownie relating to business journeys undertaken by the duke of. York between 2001 and 2011. Of. York between 2001 and 2011. And were joined now by royal correspondent and writer michael cole, who can tell us more on this. Michael, very good morning. You. Nice to see you. Good morning, eamonn. Good morning, isabel. Good morning, eamonn. Good morning, isabel. Well, isnt morning, isabel. Well, isnt this absurd . Isnt it this absurd . Isnt it outrageous . And even worse, its very unwise because by sealing these papers for so long, it ianes these papers for so long, it invites , cites the suspicion invites, cites the suspicion that theres something really terrible in these papers. Lets remind ourselves that for ten years, Prince Andrew, who was then the late queens second son, was acting as a trade envoy on our behalf, working for the department of trade and industry, going around the world to boost British Business and british industry and british commerce. Now, what could be commerce. Now, what could be possibly controversial about that, that it has to be sealed in such a dreadful way . Because in such a dreadful way . Because it is dreadful, because Andrew Lownie is a perfectly respectable and well known historian and writer , and hes historian and writer, and hes appued historian and writer, and hes applied for these papers because hes writing a biography of Prince Andrew. And i think were seeing him there at one of these not there, of course, thats a garter ceremony, but there deaung garter ceremony, but there dealing with people , talking dealing with people, talking about trade. And so on. Now. But michael, michael, michael , i know you say it invites suspicion and what could be controversial about andrew being a trade envoy . Believe me, a trade envoy . Believe me, theres a documentary on sky sky documentary about king juan carlos, the first in spain , who carlos, the first in spain, who went on a number of trade envoy missions just watch it, my friend. Just watch it. It will absolutely make your hair curl. Well, think think. His trouble is that he went and shot an elephant. He took his girlfriend with him and that that caused an awful lot of trouble madrid. But the thing trouble in madrid. But the thing is, i did the very first interview with Prince Andrew that he ever did on the day he got engaged to sarah ferguson. And at that time, i, i liked them both. I enjoyed his company. He they were a breath of fresh air. I went on all their first foreign trips over their first foreign trips over the years, though circumstances have changed him and there were many reports that he was overbearing and rude on these journeys. And representing this country on trips that we paid for the taxpayer. And that is a for the taxpayer. And that is a very unfortunate and it could be that some of the ambassadors sent reports back to the foreign and Commonwealth Office and they noted this as they would be obuged noted this as they would be obliged to do, and that would be a grave embarrassment to him. I think its a its a great shame. Its a big mistake. Were quite used to royal wills being sealed. We never, ever see them. But i think mean these secrets , whatever they are, are being suppressed far more rigorous , suppressed far more rigorous, asli, than some of the remaining secrets from the second world war, things which we still yet we are not allowed to know about. Were not you know, this must be a more grown up country. We have to know whats been done on our behalf, that weve paid for. And its interesting. Andrew lownie , he wrote Andrew Lownie, he wrote a biography, i think about mountbatten as well. He says hes a monarchist. Hes not anti the royal family. What i hadnt realised he submitted these freedom of information requests. Its that the royals its actually that the royals arent subject to them, even though we fund them. And he says there are legitimate questions about, for example, Prince Andrews for andrews security, who pays for a detail that hes a security detail now that hes not a working royal . We have a right to know that. Do you agree . Terrific yeah, exactly. Right now, theres the lownie book. The mountbatten book. He had a huge struggle. Titanic struggle, unsuccessful struggle to get to the mountbatten papers , which the mountbatten papers, which are all held in southampton university. And he was refused. University. And he was refused. It is not right. University. And he was refused. It is not right. These university. And he was refused. It is not right. These are matters of historical importance and dont dont dont forget that , you know, mountbatten was that, you know, mountbatten was a very controversial royal figure. He was very handsome. He had great charisma for he had great charm. Now, those attributes are very, very dangerous. Attributes are very, very dangerous. Hes in the wrong person. And when he was running person. And when he was running special operations during world war ii, he was known as the master of disaster. And i can tell you that in canada, mountbatten is not a hero at all because he sent many young canadian men to their deaths in the ill fated raid on dieppe in 1942. So he was a controversial character , and Andrew Lownie is character, and Andrew Lownie is quite entitled , as he is with quite entitled, as he is with prince to andrew, look into that, because this is our history. These are people who are held up for our respect and usually they deserve it. But when they dont, it must be acknowledged. Acknowledged. Oh, another book from you, another book from you. Thats what we need. Michael cole, what we need. Michael cole, thank you very indeed. Thank you very much indeed. Lovely talking to you. Lovely. Starting day with this starting the day with you. This as we start the week, the forecast with alex burkill looks like things are heating up. Boxed boilers, proud sponsors of weather on. Gb news. Of weather on. Gb news. Hello. Very good morning to you. There is a little bit of mist and fog to watch out for. First thing this morning. But once that clears therell be plenty of hot sunshine around, although watch out for some strong winds in the south west. Taking at the details and taking a look at the details and yes, and fog yes, once any mist and fog clears therell be plenty yes, once any mist and fog clesunshine therell be plenty yes, once any mist and fog clesunshine acrossll be plenty yes, once any mist and fog clesunshine across the; plenty yes, once any mist and fog clesunshine across the bulk1ty yes, once any mist and fog clesunshine across the bulk of of sunshine across the bulk of the the exception perhaps the uk. The exception perhaps being far of scotland being the far north of scotland where front lingering where there is a front lingering here, a bit of cloud here, bringing a bit of cloud and perhaps a few spots of drizzly rain as well. Otherwise lots of sunshine. Out for lots of sunshine. Watch out for some blustery winds some strong, blustery winds in the they will the south west. Now they will take the edge off the temperatures a little but temperatures a little bit, but for going to be a for many, its going to be a little hotter than it was little bit hotter than it was yesterday. Highs around 31 celsius south east celsius towards the south east later we are going to later on today, we are going to see some low cloud drifting in from the north sea. So some higher, some sea affecting higher, some sea fret affecting parts of eastern scotland and eastern North Eastern england. Low clouds, some murky conditions here further south and west, clearer skies. But i am expecting some mist and fog patches to develop and temperatures again , not dropping temperatures again, not dropping a huge amount. So its likely to be relatively warm night be another relatively warm night for most us as we go through for most of us as we go through wednesday itself. A slow , murky wednesday itself. A slow, murky start then for some eastern North Eastern parts. But that low should gradually burn low cloud should gradually burn back the coast for most back towards the coast for most the perhaps around the exception, perhaps around eastern parts of scotland. I am expecting the low cloud here to unger expecting the low cloud here to linger into the afternoon. Linger well into the afternoon. Otherwise, yes, it may be a touch cloudier than some recent days sunshine to days, but plenty of sunshine to be had and temperatures be be had and temperatures could be even still with highs even higher still with highs around 32 celsius. Looks like things are heating up. Boxed boilers proud sponsors of weather on. Gb news, the education secretarys fighting for survival as thousands of children are left in limbo by the ongoing concrete crisis. Crisis. This very good morning to you. Itsjust this very good morning to you. Its just gone 7 00 on tuesday, the 5th of september. Youre tuned into breakfast on gb news with eamonn and isabel. Heres whats leading the news this morning. Gillian keegan is fighting to keep her cabinet position this morning after using an expletive and claiming she was doing a good job while unaware she was still being recorded comes the chief recorded. It comes as the chief of the spending watchdog accuses the government of using a sticking plaster approach to School Maintenance with thousands of currently thousands of children currently unable to return to lessons. Unable to return to lessons. Keir starmer, meanwhile, has said he has the strongest possible players on the pitch following a reshuffle , all aimed following a reshuffle, all aimed at preparing labour for government. Five of his new top team were special advisers under tony blair. The Police Federation of Northern Ireland has called for a full investigation into the actions of simon byrne after he resigned yesterday as chief constable of the Police Service of Northern Ireland. And its going to be another glorious day. Well have another glorious day. Well have a full forecast with you with alex burkill. Alex burkill. Hello. A little bit of mist and fog around first thing this morning, but otherwise plenty of sunshine temperatures rising sunshine and temperatures rising even as we go through even further as we go through the week. Ill have more later. Gillian keegan is fighting to keep her cabinet position this morning after she apologised for using an expletive while claiming she was doing a good job while unaware she was still being recorded. Being recorded. While the education secretary has been under after the has been under fire after the last 24 hours of being accused of being on holiday as more evidence of unsafe concrete in schools came light. Schools came to light. And now the National Audit office has accused the government of using the sticking plaster approach , with thousands plaster approach, with thousands of children currently enabled to return lessons. Return to lessons. Lets speak to Boris Johnsons former political director, alex crowley. Look, director, alex crowley. Look, its a bit of a hot mic gaffe, an embarrassment. But is there a more serious point in all of this when weve got the chief of the National Audit office, thats the spending watchdog saying inevitable if saying this is inevitable if youre take a sticking youre going to take a sticking plaster essential plaster approach to essential repairs School Buildings, repairs to School Buildings, its rather curious. I thought National Audit i thought the National Audit office was politically independent, but apparently not. Think thats a well, do you think thats a political statement you political statement or do you think a statement about think thats a statement about the buildings . Think thats a statement about the the buildings . Think thats a statement about the the timing jildings . Think thats a statement about the the timing ofiings . Think thats a statement about the the timing of the s . Think the timing of the statement is intensely political think the timing of the sjustnent is intensely political think the timing of the sjust at1t is intensely political think the timing of the sjust at the intensely political think the timing of the sjust at the momenty political think the timing of the sjust at the moment when ical , just at the moment when the government pressure and government is under pressure and questions about questions are being asked about whether properly funded whether they had properly funded school programmes. School maintenance programmes. The head of an independent body decides to write an article in the times accusing of in the times accusing them of using plaster using a sticking plaster approach. Wonder if hes also approach. I wonder if hes also going to take a job with the Labour Party Like sue gray did. You know its fine that the there may well be a fair point to say. Has the government over many, many years and this problem has been going on over many, many years. It was concerns were first raised in the 1960s. The government have said that theyve known about it since 1994. So there are interesting questions to ask. Interesting questions to ask. But i dont think its solely for this government. Yeah, but does that wash when youve had the same party in power for 13 years . People will say, well, only been say, well, shes only been in the for a year. There have the gig for a year. There have been education secretary been ten. Education secretary years of years during that period of time, to take time, somebody has to take responsibility my responsibility for this. And my question should it actually question is, should it actually be the Prime Minister and this hot gaffe yesterday actually hot mic gaffe yesterday actually took bit heat took a little bit of the heat off him. But people in the department for education saying actually treasury actually it was the treasury that for the that cut the funding for the essential during 2020 to essential repairs during 2020 to 2021. That was when rishi sunak was chancellor of the exchequer. And you might rather expect officials in the department for education and the education to try and shift the blame to the treasury. Blame over to the treasury. Again, well again, they may well be a legitimate case to answer there and we have to look at exactly what the fact what the situation was. The fact is this crisis has been is that this crisis has been known about for years. It has just so happened to have landed on secretarys on this education secretarys desk time. And obviously desk at this time. And obviously from a political perspective, the timing couldnt be worse. Rishi sunak was hoping to come out of the summer into the new political season, refreshed and reinvigorated and relaunched. Reinvigorated and relaunched. And of course, now all Everyone Wants to talk about is this issue which is of course is a very serious issue. You know, there will be questions asked about why could this not have been done at the end of the last school term during the Summer Holidays . And i suspect the real reason for that is because the department simply didnt know the full extent of the problem , the full extent of the problem, because they to rely on because they have to rely on others , of course, to report others, of course, to report this stuff back to them. They have to on local have to rely on local authorities, they have to rely on they rely on on schools. They have to rely on academies. The various academies. All the various smorgasbord organisations smorgasbord of organisations involved of course involved in this. And of course it time. And because this it takes time. And because this situation has been going on for many, many years, you do have to ask what were the officials doing . The officials whove known this for decades . Known about this for decades . Yeah lots of questions for lots of people. Thats fair to say. I think thats fair to say. I noficed i think thats fair to say. I noticed that the education secretary apologised for her language, didnt language, but she didnt apologise for asking for somebody to thank her for her hard work. Do you think that the journalist was remiss for not thanking her for hard work . Thanking her for her hard work . Is their job . Is that their job . Wouldnt necessarily i wouldnt necessarily suggest its right for a journalist to thank any minister for doing, for doing their job. Well, it was an unforced well, look, it was an unforced error. You know , rule 101 of error. You know, rule 101 of media for Performance Training and crisis management. When the microphone is on, you expect it to be used and which it was. In this case, however , there this case, however, there theres a broader thing here with this with this so called gaffe. Okay. The more and more gaffe. Okay. The more and more you get these situations where the media has a gotcha moment on a politician and this one was fair game, i accept that. But fair game, i accept that. But the more and more you have this , the more youre going to get politicians that dont say anything , the more and more anything, the more and more youre going to do interviews with politicians of all parties and theyre just going to theyre going to be robotic. Theyre going stick. Theyre just going to stick. Well, selling well, this is how big selling point, isnt it, that shes a breath of fresh air. She shoots from the hip. She says she thinks. But says what she thinks. But obviously unguarded obviously this was an unguarded and, as you say, an own goal. And she was and what about who she was talking do you think talking about . Who do you think she was referring people she was referring to . People sitting their dot dot dots . Well, thats a very interesting question. And i suspect she will be asked that in interviews. If in her follow up interviews. If i guess, i would say that i had to guess, i would say that she was referring to the many, many officials and local authorities over decades authorities who over decades have known about this problem. Its all been published. Its all you know, its not its all in. You know, its not its not been secret that this has been a problem. And there are many, many who have been many, many people who have been involved this. Involved in trying to fix this. And she was venting and i imagine she was venting some the frustration that it some of the frustration that it happened to have landed on her desk moment. Desk at this moment. Now, of course, thats what you sign up for minister. For as a minister. The unexpected. Have deal unexpected. You have to deal with these crises. And she will probably that she she is probably feel that she is she is doing best that she can a doing the best that she can in a world of limited information. Meanwhile, big Cabinet Reshuffle starmer reshuffle for keir starmer yesterday. Lots of people saying hes to get his ducks in hes trying to get his ducks in a row before to the a row before trying to win the election year. About election next year. Were about to speak to one of the big casualties in a minute. Jonathan ashworth. Demoted. Yes. Ashworth. He was demoted. Yes. What make of all . What do you make of it all . Obviously, youre coming from the of the political the other side of the political spectrum, its spectrum, but i suppose its always to which always interesting to see which direction going. Some direction the is in going. Some people ideas, people are saying no new ideas, other people saying this is other people are saying this is getting theyre going getting serious. Theyre going a bit more to the Centre Ground, bringing former blair bringing in former key blair figures five former blair advisers in shadow advisers in his in his shadow cabinet now keir starmer not cabinet now yes keir starmer not having original ideas of his having any original ideas of his own has to go back to the blairite years bump up things there. Look, theres always an obsession team is obsession about who the team is , the cabinet, whos , whos in the cabinet, whos not in cabinet. Reality not in the cabinet. The reality is its the leader that matters. Thats when voters go to the polls. Thats who they have in the top of their mind. Who do the top of their mind. Who do i want to be leading the country . Is it rishi sunak or is it keir starmer . People around them starmer . The people around them are incidental to that, are fairly incidental to that, unless theyre unless of course theyre theyre mad, they were in the mad, which they were in the Jeremy Corbyn years and its happened for the tories as well, of course. So i wouldnt set too much store by its, you know its interesting for the westminster bubble to whos westminster bubble to see whos up, whos down. But you know, people still dont really know what starmer stands we what keir starmer stands for. We wait who are you wait to see who are you referring to there for the tories bit liz truss. Tories bit of liz truss. I couldnt dig there. I couldnt possibly comment. Okay alex crowley, much indeed i thank 5mm thank you. Lets go to Northern Ireland now. The Police Federation there has called for an investigation into the actions of their former chief constable, simon byrne. Chief constable, simon byrne. This follows a series of controversy , his including data controversy, his including data breaches at and what turned out to be unlawful disciplining of two officers. Lets go to our Northern Ireland reporter Dougie Beattie for his take on this one. The beattie for his take on this one. The last thing Northern Ireland needs is instability at the top of law and order. Yeah, isuppose the top of law and order. Yeah, i suppose so. Who runs the shop now that simon byrne has gone . Dougie. Dougie. Well, it seems to be a deputy chief constable. Mark hamilton chief constable. Mark hamilton will take his place. Not as officially as the chief constable. He will just run it as the man at the top and still remain as a deputy chief constable. But to make this constable. But to make this quite easy for everybody , quite easy for everybody, theres really three tiers to policing in Northern Ireland. Theres the policing board, thats the political masters , thats the political masters, thats the political masters, thats the political masters, thats the community engagement. And they the chief constable is answerable to them. Then you have the chief constable and his Management Team and they really are responsible for operational and day to day matters and really enforce policy there. And then you have and this is a real good one, the policing federation , thats the trade federation, thats the trade union of everyday Police Officers. Now there was two Police Officers that were unlawfully disciplined, and its now came out that there was political pressure put on the chief constable. So the Police Federation took this to the ombudsman and the ombudsman said these two men had no case to answer. Then they took these two men had no case to answer. Then they took out a judicial review. Now this is the problem. The judicial review came back and said that their discipline was unlawful. Now this comes on the back of a funeral during covid. It comes on the back of data breaches. But heres the big point for the Police Federation in that period of time, the policing board extend the contract of the chief constable. So the rank and file officers very much thinking we are not being listened to. And are not being listened to. And in the last 24 to 48 hours in Northern Ireland, weve had two shootings, two kneecappings as punishment shootings in west belfast , weve had punishment shootings in west belfast, weve had a stabbing and weve had a murder. Now, if youre asking your young officers to go into these areas, some of them where they they themselves will be targets, say themselves will be targets, say the kneecapping, for instance, in west belfast. And youre saying set up a crime scene there, set up a cordon. And by there, set up a cordon. And by the way, we know that theres an arm in there. We know that there is a gun, a weapon in there that could be turned on you if youre brought in. And those officers are saying, do we have faith in the management of the psni . And very much thats not going to happen. The very much thats not going to happen. The Police Federation will appear in front of a Westminster Committee at about 930 this morning, then followed by assistant chief constable christopher todd. Christopher todd. Dougie, thank you very much indeed. Well leave it there. Indeed. Well leave it there. Well, we can speak now to the brand new shadow paymaster, general Jonathan Ashworth. A very good morning to you and welcome to the program. I welcome to the program. I believe hes just appearing in shot there he is. Good morning to you. Well done for coming out, facing the cameras. Lots of the papers speculating about why you effectively. I hate to you were effectively. I hate to say i mean, its being say it. I mean, its being described as as a demotion by some. I mean, do you think this is because youre not right enough the party . Youre not enough in the party . Youre not enough in the party . Youre not enough of a blairite for sir keir starmer . Keir starmer . No, ive been asked to do a role where apparently im going to be coming on the media much more. The spin doctors out there more. The spin doctors out there apparently are briefing this as apparently are briefing this as a shadow minister for the today programme, but i like to think of it as the shadow minister for coming on gb news in the morning. Smooth, very smooth. Smooth, very smooth. Well, ill tell you, it surprised me that, you know, if thatis surprised me that, you know, if that is your role, congratulations. And that is very, very because i do very, very good because i do genuinely think , jonathan, not genuinely think, jonathan, not only are you a very capable politician, you are a great communicator and youre something someone that i think more politicians could learn from. And that is you speak in everyday language so you can communicate with you and youre perhaps not going to throw a strop the way weve seen in the past 24 hours or so. All of that said, i dont have to agree with everything you say and youre going to tell me about these crumbling School Buildings. Crumbling School Buildings. Awful, appalling, ghastly. But awful, appalling, ghastly. But it happened under your watch as well. And labour. But its an well. And labour. But its an absolute shambles. Whats happening now isnt it . And of course labour had a big rebuilding schools programme. One the first programme. One of the first things conservatives did things the conservatives did when got in 13 years ago, when they got in 13 years ago, a long time ago now 13 years, but one the first things that one of the first things that they did of was was cut they did of course was was cut that schools reBuilding Programme. Is really programme. This is really serious. Ive got a school in my own constituency, primary own constituency, a Primary School actually closed at school which actually closed at easter. And the pupils, the easter. And the pupils, the young pupils of that Primary School spread out across, i think, 4 or 5 different sites. Some of them on a site at a local secondary school, some of them in community centres. A local mosque was putting , local mosque was putting, helping them, putting up, helping them, putting up, helping them, putting up, helping them with one of their centres as well. I mean, the community has really rallied round, but even today there are pupils at that school because its not open being ferry across the leicester in buses. The city of leicester in buses. Thats costing thousands of pounds and the temporary accommodation that were expecting to be built not actually the School Getting rebuilt , the temporary rebuilt, the temporary accommodation that were expecting to be rebuilt wont be wont come online until probably by feb , february next year. And by feb, february next year. And thats when the School Closed in april. So its an absolute shambles. And parents across the country watching the watching the tv this morning and watching gb news this morning i think will be absolutely appalled. Jonathan as i said, it jonathan, as a as i said, it happened under the blair government and the brown governments as well. And its a massive issue. People are kicking the can down the road because the cost is huge to actually sort this out. But we actually sort this out. But we were we had a programme for rebuilding schools. And as i say, after 13, 13 years ago, when the conservatives first got in 13 years ago, they cut that programme. And think today , programme. And i think today, look, got sort of look, when youve got sort of roofs risk of collapse in roofs at risk of collapse in various various schools across the country, pupils really worried. Youve got the education secretary expecting to be thanked and congratulated by parents. And then, of course, when you step back, its not just the schools, you know, air Traffic Control was in a shambles last week. There are rivers are full of sewage. Our rivers are full of sewage. Our hospitals cant cope with the backlog treatment. Nothing backlog for treatment. Nothing works in this country. After 13 years. It really is time for change. Yeah, but may i say, you know, the defence that the education secretary has come out with is actually its not her to job responsible for the job be responsible for the safety buildings. Thats safety of the buildings. Thats often actual fact, the often in actual fact, the responsible local responsible of the local authorities, whom are authorities, many of whom are not conservative local authority. So do you accept that . So do you accept that . No. I mean, can i just say no. I mean, can ijust say perhaps directly to the education secretary . I dont know if shes watching. Hello . Your title is education secretary. Youre responsible for schools and parents across the country, teachers who work in schools and pupils , because in schools and pupils, because some of these pupils are old enough to understand what is going on. Want you to fix this and dont want any more of your saying, oh, nothing to do with me. Gov. Is frankly an me. Gov. That is frankly an abdication your responsible abdication of your responsible duties. And i was talking to a headteacher yesterday said headteacher yesterday who said these days than covid these are darker days than covid for his school because his school is closed. I am so school is closed. I am so worried about the impact on children. Ive got two. Ive got a 12 year old and a nine year old. Yeah, one of them in Primary School, one of them in now. In secondary secondary school. I like every parent watching wants the very watching this, wants the very best children and for all best for my children and for all children country. And to children in this country. And to be it makes me be honest, it makes me absolutely furious that absolutely furious, furious that the education secretary is dismissing this is being casual , is expecting. Thanks. Its actually laughing about it. Last night when she had to go out and do our apology interviews. This is about our children. And its not just about peoples children. Are the children. Children are the future country. We future of this country. We should doing the very best should be doing the very best for in country. For children in this country. But , jonathan, were but but, jonathan, were being assured by conservative spokesperson after conservative spokesperson after conservative spokesperson that everythings okay, that the department of education will simply pay for this, that the money is there. Now, im not the secretary of state for education, but i would have thought that the department of education was there. Yes. For a bit of maintenance to throw in and maintain schools and whatever. But they had other whatever. But they had other roles to do with the education of children and paying for that and paying for teachers. Et cetera. Et cetera. Rather than cetera. Et cetera. Rather than rebuilding on fraudulent concrete. So could you just concrete. So could you just explain to me when they say that all of this rebuilding will come out of the department of education budget , what that education budget, what that actually means and what knock on effect that would have . Effect that would have . Well , jeremy hunt at the well, jeremy hunt at the weekend said were going to sort this out. Were going to pay for it. Well, lets see. Lets see where were getting the money. Of course, as ive said, ive got a school in my own constituency, ac, which closed in at easter, isnt even in april at easter, isnt even going to get its temporary buildings february, let buildings until february, let alone , you know, roof alone, you know, the roof getting rebuilt. Thats a separate the separate issue. Thats the temporary because temporary buildings because at the students, pupils are the moment, students, pupils are spread across different spread out across different different sites. So one of these different sites. So one of these schools is going to get rebuilt. Yes, the. And of course, yes, the rebuilding is the priority, but it has other impacts. My it also has other impacts. My school in my constituency is ferrying children across the city in buses. Well, someones city in buses. Well, someones got to pay for that. And if thats to other thats happening to other schools, thats going be paid schools, thats going to be paid for well. So is the for as well. So is the department for education going to step in . Also knocks on to step in . It also knocks on to other things ofsted other things like ofsted inspections who inspections and those pupils who are sats and are they are sitting sats and are they going to their sats . Is it going to sit their sats . Is it going to sit their sats . Is it going you know, they miss going to you know, if they miss their sats, how is that going to be accounted for . Theres lots of Big Questions here that need resolving, frankly, resolving, but frankly, the impression i think impression i get and i think country is that the country get is that the education rishi education secretary and rishi sunak a of sunak havent got a grip of this. Okay. Well many of those well, well put many of those allegations nick gibb allegations to nick gibb Education Minister a little bit later but later on in the programme, but for Jonathan Ashworth, the for now, Jonathan Ashworth, the brand. General, brand new paymaster. General, thanks talking to this thanks for talking to us this morning. Thank much. Morning. Thank you very much. Oh, say shadow oh, sorry, i should say shadow paymaster promoted him paymaster general promoted him even government there. Even to government there. Thank thank you. Well, its been week since well, its been a week since the expansion of the ultra low emission zone ulez in london and a lot of people , many of them a lot of people, many of them running businesses are feeling the pinch. Yes. Our london reporter lisa hartle has spoken to the owner of a hotel that sits just 100m inside the area and says the policy is having a huge impact on his business. West Lodge Park Hotel sits in 35 acres of countryside in north london. Its been a family run business for 250 years. Its also just 100m inside the ulez boundary , which the owner says boundary, which the owner says is having a huge impact. Weve got customers already phoning us and cancelling bookings for both bedrooms and for restaurants and even for conference and banqueting as well. The bedroom customers, if well. The bedroom customers, if they have a non ulez compliant car , will need to pay an extra car, will need to pay an extra £12. 50 on check in and an extra £12. 50 on check in and an extra £12. 50 on check out the next morning. So you can do the maths. It doesnt make any sense for them to stay here. They choose a hotel outside of london and then when it comes to future bookings, we dont know what the overall impact will be. But i suspect strongly it will be in the hundreds of thousands of pounds. I the hundreds of thousands of pounds. I think it the hundreds of thousands of pounds. I think it is worth saying that everybody is in favour of clean air. So what should have happened was that this would have been brought in with whats called grandfathering. In other words , grandfathering. In other words, keep your car. But when you change it, then it should be a better a cleaner car and that would be perfectly reasonable. Would be perfectly reasonable. Whats happened instead is theres been this cut off date of the 29th of august, and suddenly everybody is scrambling around like mad. Both car drivers and van drivers trying to find second hand cars that are compliant. But many of the Staff Members dont live in london and dont have cars that comply with the ultra low emission zone. So they either have to change their cars or pay £12. 50 a day. That adds up to at least £250 a month. And as they dont live in london, theyre not eligible for compensation through tfl scrappage scheme. Some people have actually thought about changing their job because if theyre on minimum wage , then its just a too high wage, then its just a too high an expense for the average person and some of those other people dont live in london ehhen people dont live in london either. So its just literally a cost to come to work. There is also concern that the ulez signs dont make it clear that people may have to pay £12. 50 and end up with a £180 fine. I mean , theres very little i mean, theres very little signage at all just outside of the hotel. Theres one small sign. And so i definitely think people will even come into the hotel that wont even be aware that theyve gone into the ulez zone at i think its zone at all. So i think its incumbent on us as hotel to incumbent on us as a hotel to really warn people that they need check theyre need to check whether theyre compliant some compliant or not because some people be aware that people will not be aware that theyve gone into the zone. The mayor of london expanded ulez tackle air ulez in august to tackle air pollution. But with so many costs businesses costs rising, many businesses like costs rising, many businesses uke one costs rising, many businesses like one are asking why like this one are asking why wasnt more notice or help given to those who it . Lisa to those who need it . Lisa hartle gb news, london. Of those people, extreme anti ulez. Just to point out, later on in our programme we will have a climate spokesperson from the independent , a climate spokesperson from the independent, a columnist i should say thats at 8 20 arguing why its a good thing. Arguing why its a good thing. Always an interesting debate when we talk about ulez, so stay tuned for that. Tuned for that. Hope its not all well, lets hope its not all just pollution in sky. Alex just pollution in the sky. Alex burkill that warm feeling inside from boxt boilers. Proud sponsors of weather on. Gb news. Hello, very good morning to you. There is a little bit of mist and fog to watch out for. First thing this morning, but once that clears therell be plenty of hot sunshine around. Although watch out for some strong in south west strong winds in the south west taking the details and taking a look at the details and yes, once mist fog yes, once any mist and fog clears away, therell be plenty of the of of sunshine across the bulk of the the exception perhaps the uk. The exception perhaps being far north of scotland being the far north of scotland where front lingering where there is a front lingering here, bringing a bit cloud here, bringing a bit of cloud and perhaps a few spots of drizzly rain as well. Otherwise lots of sunshine. Watch for lots of sunshine. Watch out for some blustery winds in some strong, blustery winds in the south west. Now they will take off the take the edge off the temperatures a little but temperatures a little bit, but for its to be a for many, its going to be a little hotter than it was little bit hotter than it was yesterday. Highs 31 yesterday. Highs around 31 celsius south east celsius towards the south east later today, we are going to later on today, we are going to see cloud drifting in see some low cloud drifting in from the north sea. So some ha some sea threat affecting parts of eastern scotland and eastern North Eastern england. Low clouds, some murky conditions here further south and west, clearer skies. But i am expecting some mist and fog patches to develop and temperatures, again, not dropping a huge amount. So its likely another relatively likely to be another relatively warm night for most of us as we go through wednesday itself. A slow, murky start then for some eastern North Eastern parts. But eastern North Eastern parts. But that low cloud should gradually burn back towards coast. For burn back towards the coast. For most, exception, perhaps most, the exception, perhaps around eastern parts of scotland. I expecting the low scotland. I am expecting the low cloud here to linger. Well into the otherwise yes, it the afternoon. Otherwise yes, it may be a touch cloudier than some recent days, but plenty of sunshine to be had and temperatures even temperatures could be even higher around higher still with highs around 32 celsius. That warm feeling inside from boxt boilers. Proud sponsors of weather on. Gb news. Weather on. Gb news. Now this old concrete rak concrete situation , apparently concrete situation, apparently they reckon its to going cost about 11. 5 billion. Where would you get 11. 5 billion to put the schools right. Well, heres a suggestion. What about the foreign aid budget . The foreign foreign aid budget . The foreign aid budget is around 11 billion, 11. 5 billion to fix the schools. 11. 5 billion to fix the schools. 11 billion for the foreign aid budget is it just me that sort of thinks she can do the maths on this . Right. Were now going on this . Right. Were now going to find out. Were asking if to find out. Were asking if its to find out. Were asking if wsfime to find out. Were asking if its time to cut foreign aid to deal with problems here at home still to come on the programme today, 28 a week on from the introduction of ultra low emission zone around london, were going to be asking if police should be cracking down on vandals disrupting it or freedom fighters. Some people would call them. They are called would call them. They are called the blade runners and they vandalise the cameras and the monitoring of all of this. Is that right . Right. That right . Right. And after 9 00, well ask the schools minister, nick gibb, what hes doing to help children left in limbo by the ongoing concrete crisis. You can join in, as we would like you to do with our next debate as well, which is about foreign aid funding. The foreign aid budget and what we should do with it. Should we be spending it at home . Gb views the gbnews. Com. Or you can tweet or excess signs. If were asking for naughty pictures or something. Oh, i thought it was more breaking up with us, which we definitely dont want. Well, anyway, twitters now called so. So were not called x, so. So were not really sure. Were just still keep calling it twitter. Tweet, tweet us anyway, whatever. Whatever other way you can send us letter by pigeon or us a letter by pigeon or anything want. Any of anything you want. Do any of those of things. Now, those sort of things. Now, britain spent £11 billion on foreign last so foreign aid last year. So with schools being another huge expense where are we going to get the money for putting these schools right . Is it time to cut foreign aid . Foreign aid . Well, lets debate this this morning. We can get the thoughts morning. We can get the thoughts of the conservative councillor, Matthew Goodwin freeman, who of the conservative councillor, mattiyes,soodwin freeman, who of the conservative councillor, mattiyes, letsvin freeman, who of the conservative councillor, mattiyes, lets cut zreeman, who of the conservative councillor, mattiyes, lets cut the � nan, who of the conservative councillor, mattiyes, lets cut the foreignio says, yes, lets cut the foreign aid budget and the gb news presenter and co founder of conservatives against racism , conservatives against racism, albie who disagrees. Albie amankona, who disagrees. Good morning to you both. Albie, good morning to you both. Albie, lets start with you. Eamonns lets start with you. Eamonns been making the case this morning for cutting it. Its a tidy sum, isnt it . 11 billion for schools taken from the foreign budget. You very foreign aid budget. You very strongly disagree. Tell why. Strongly disagree. Tell us why. Yes, i very strongly disagree. Probably on the strongest possible terms. I think it is a very , very short think it is a very, very short sighted idea to cut the foreign aid budget in terms of trying to find ways to fund things in the uk like the concrete school crisis. We know that the foreign crisis. We know that the foreign aid budget will end up increasing economic parts Economic Growth in parts of the world where at the moment we are not seeing that Economic Growth. It increases security in parts of the world where were seeing a lot of these refugees, the people who why is this our problem . Is this our problem . Why is this our problem . Why is this our problem . Our problem. Eamonn its our problem. Eamonn because we have people crossing the channel to get to the uk from coming from parts of the world which are not secure, which do not have. But didnt have a but if we didnt have a foreign aid budget, would foreign aid budget, we would have more a defence budget, have more for a defence budget, wouldnt out. Wouldnt we, to keep them out. Yeah. No of course if yeah. No because of course if we, if we didnt have a foreign aid budget, one third of the foreign last year was aid budget, one third of the foreig|on last year was aid budget, one third of the foreig|on hosting last year was aid budget, one third of the foreig|on hosting refugeesar was aid budget, one third of the foreig|on hosting refugees innas aid budget, one third of the foreig|on hosting refugees in the spent on hosting refugees in the United Kingdom. We would have to find that money to host those refugees. So the foreign aid budget is actually spent here on refugees. It a third of the budget last year was spent on refugees here. But the point is were sending money to india who have just put a rocket on the moon. Were sending money to china, who have one of the largest economies in the world. Were sending places that sending money to places that frankly, they dont need our money. Weve been taking for mugs, to mugs, sending money, matthew, to countries yemen , to countries like yemen, to countries like yemen, to countries somalia end countries like somalia to end fgm. Fgm. Im saying all the im not saying all the foreign aid budget spent in foreign aid budget is spent in the way. It should be the right way. It should be targeted the parts the targeted to the parts of the world need. We should world most in need. We should not sending money india world most in need. We should not china,ding money india world most in need. We should not china,dingthe ney india world most in need. We should not china,dingthe idea india world most in need. We should not china,dingthe idea thatiia world most in need. We should not china,dingthe idea that we and china, but the idea that we should not send foreign aid money any country in the money to any country in the world there plenty of world when there are plenty of countries, do you countries, what country do you live in . This ones broke. This country whos going to country is broke. Whos going to send money . Send us money . We have more than enough money that we spend in our own. Have we got homelessness . Why have we got homelessness . Why have we got drug problems . Why have we got drug problems . Why have we got drug problems . Why have unemployment . Why have we got unemployment . Why have we got unemployment . Why the schools that why have we got the schools that we cant rebuild . So that was very while lasted. But we cant rebuild . So that was very its while lasted. But we cant rebuild . So that was very its time. E lasted. But we cant rebuild . So that was very its time to lasted. But we cant rebuild . So that was very its time to spend d. But we cant rebuild . So that was very its time to spend it but we cant rebuild . So that was very its time to spend it here. Why . Because were spending money in the wrong places. Eamonn the biggest one of the biggest spends the exchequer of spends on the exchequer is, of course, triple lock on course, the triple lock on pensions. The biggest pensions. Thats the biggest outgoing. Oh, yeah. Just let our so well just let our pensioners and die after pensioners starve and die after working all the years of their lives. So well just give it away for some girl band in africa then. Well i think i think what we should do is look at the amount. Well, hang on, lets not all speak at once. Albie was just finishing his point about wealthy point there about wealthy pensioners often being millionaires. People millionaires. So perhaps people should pensions should forego their pensions in those lets hear those instances. But lets hear back from matthew. I mean, matthew, were lot of matthew, there were a lot of raised when the foreign raised eyebrows when the foreign aid was hugely reduced aid budget was hugely reduced and we actually created the foreign budget as one of foreign aid budget as one of our International Duties lot of International Duties is a lot of people eyebrows , people raised eyebrows, international were International Standing. Were always this always talking about with this government, always talking about with this govermessage to the rest of the right message to the rest of the world were pulling up the world if were pulling up the drawbridge saying, drawbridge and saying, not interested isolationism . Thats what were about . Well, not pulling up well, were not pulling up the because we spent the drawbridge because we spent 12 and £12 billion around that figure in 2022, and thats only down from 15,000,000,000 in 2019. So its a pretty penny that were spending. I think what both in what albie and i are both in agreement is need to look agreement of is we need to look at were spending this agreement of is we need to look at so ere spending this agreement of is we need to look at so lets;pending this agreement of is we need to look at so lets stopiing this agreement of is we need to look at so lets stop sending money. So lets stop sending money. So lets stop sending money india. Stop money to india. Lets stop spending money to china. That frees up some to money spend here home. Lets put great here at home. Lets put Great Britain thats point britain first. Thats the point of entire channel. Want of this entire channel. We want Great Britain lets build Great Britain first. Lets build more build more hospitals. Lets build new schools. Those schools. Lets fill those Job Vacancies weve in this vacancies that weve got in this country. Train up our country. Lets train up our future generations and give people future that people the future that they deserve. Spending deserve. Why are we spending money countries that are money on countries that are sending rockets to the other side of the moon or countries that human rights that have terrible human rights records like china . Then, records like china . But then, hey, well you some money hey, well give you some money anyway because youve one of anyway because youve got one of the in the the largest economies in the world. Are utterly, utterly world. We are utterly, utterly not this country. We not focussed on this country. We need to focus on the United Kingdom. Need to focus on us. Kingdom. We need to focus on us. Lets fix problems here lets fix the problems here before try and everyone before we try and fix everyone elses problems. Elses problems. Albie, just want to dispel albie, i just want to dispel this myth that spending money on International Aid is not beneficial to people here in the United Kingdom as i mentioned before, the reason why people are fleeing parts of the world and coming to the uk is because these parts of the world arent secure. Theres no Economic Opportunity and theres no reason for those people to stay in those countries if the International Aid budget is spentin International Aid budget is spent in the right way, it could actually reduce the need for people to leave their countries in the first place and then come to the United Kingdom. Also, if we think about the parts of the world where china and india are really developing new relationships, were thinking about africa, were thinking about africa, were thinking about south america, were thinking parts of south thinking about parts of south asia now, china and india arent cutting their International Aid. Theyre enhancing their International Standing with International Standing with International Aid, with investments in these countries. Investments in these countries. And we are seeing a real this is the nonsense of were giving money to countries who are giving money to other countries as eamonn, ive already said, we shouldnt be giving to money china and india. So if we can park that point because we all agree on it. The point that im making is, you say the point were still sending them that money advantageous. Were still sending them that mo thisidvantageous. Were still sending them that mo this isantageous. Were still sending them that mo this is theageous. Were still sending them that mo this is the point;. Were still sending them that mo this is the point about this is the point about foreign aid cuts. This is what weve to get mind in. Weve got to get our mind in. Weve still sending that money. So we can probably move on from that point. Lets lets raise you run so lets lets raise you run your house like this. If were running your own if you were running your own budget you be budget at home, would you be running budget . I mean, you running your budget . I mean, you know, all about homelessness and things, that go here know, all about homelessness and thin poverty that go here know, all about homelessness and thin poverty and at go here know, all about homelessness and thin poverty and whatever. Iere know, all about homelessness and thin poverty and whatever. So and poverty and whatever. So would you giving money that would you be giving money that you to be spending your you need to be spending on your own someone elses home . Own home to someone elses home . Im a third of the budget. Is spent in the uk. Ive already told weve already. Im not stupid , mate. Not stupid, mate. Im not stupid. I understand why the budget is spent in the uk, but what is it spent on . Its spent on housing, migrants and Illegal Immigrants in this country. And im sure and you can correct me if im wrong on this one, thats not the way you want to see your budget being spent. No, i mean, as a local councillor, we have to focus on every single penny. We have to find every single penny we to can keep the budget in balance and services and deliver local services for local not spending local people. Were not spending our mega pound our money on mega billion pound projects the world projects elsewhere in the world that we will never see. Something from today. We might see something from it in decades, years but were decades, years time. But were not see anything today. Right. But matthew, you accept but matthew, do you accept the point that albies making that actually by withdrawing the point that albies making that act|fory by withdrawing the point that albies making that act|for many ithdrawing the point that albies making that act|for many ofidrawing the point that albies making that act|for many of these1g funding for many of these unstable countries, create unstable countries, you create more for this more of a problem for this country, that you have an increase these people trying increase in these people trying to dangerous to get away from these dangerous situations illegally crossing the you not accept the channel . Do you not accept that . You invest, that . Actually, if you invest, we never be able to fix that. We will never have enough money to fix that so completely. We we to stop we look, we need to stop trying to fix other peoples problems. We need to focus on this country and focus. Ill tell you what our problem here. Problem is here. Our problem is concrete beams falling on children and schoolteachers, heads and its going to take £11 billion to put that right. But oddly enough, our foreign aid budget is about exactly the same 11 billion. Our problem is that we are is that we are not spending our money in the most effective way. And im afraid the state pension going to pensioners who are millionaires, which make up 22 of pensioners, stop talking about pensions. Do you see when youre old, when your old mate and you have got to pay for a carer and youve got to pay for a zimmer frame and youve got to pay for everything. But it depends what millionaire it will millionaire is. Half of it will go to the government anyway, so stop old stop stigmatise housing old people being millionaires, people as being millionaires, stigmatising national stigmatising the entire national aid as being. Aid budget as being. Well, it will well, i think it will actually where im im quite happy money come from happy to money could come from as alternative to cutting the as an alternative to cutting the International Budget you International Aid budget you dont my idea. I dont like dont like my idea. I dont like your well i think the your idea. Well i think the choice is then do we pick pensioners or do we pick foreign aid budgets we might not aid budgets that we might not see for 20, 30 years . See anything for 20, 30 years . Point of view, we and in my point of view, we pick our and our pick our country and our pensioners, the people pensioners, the poorest people in world, millionaire in the world, millionaire pensioners, of the pensioners, 22 of some of the poorest the live poorest people in the world live in this country. Well, he was talking about the wealthy ones. Think were not going to i think were not going to agree. I think were not going to agr money millionaires. Money for millionaires. Money for millionaires. Pensioners, okay, so pensioners, everybody out there. Okay, so pensioners, eveand dy out there. Okay, so pensioners, eveand dy says out there. Okay, so pensioners, eveand dy says itst there. Okay, so pensioners, eveand dy says its moree. And albie says its more likely youre a likely that youre a millionaire, youre a millionaire, youre a millionaire pensioner. Millionaire pensioner. Millionaire pensioner. Hope you get to i hope you i hope you get to experience what millionaire experience what a millionaire pensioner feels like someday. Mary , sorry, i disagree mary says, sorry, i disagree with hes talking well, with albie. Hes talking well, hes talking about Economic Growth in other countries. We growth in other countries. We dont appear to have any Economic Growth ourselves. Wolves. Surely foreign aid should have should come after we have covered costs. Great covered our own costs. Great britain no longer great, jane britain is no longer great, jane says. Stop foreign aid. We need money here. Countries broken, totally agree. Enough is enough. And that goes on. And and on and that goes on. And on and on and on and on. Trimmed down. Well what about where would you settle for . Would you settle for a reduction in foreign aid . Trimming down the foreign aid list, as thomas suggests . Yes, list, as thomas suggests . Yes, absolutely. Absolutely. I thought rishi sunak was totally right to reduce the foreign aid budget during covid because we needed to redirect more of that money to the uk when government was spending when the government was spending to through covid to get us through the covid crisis. I to get us through the covid crisis. I thought to get us through the covid crisis. I thought was the crisis. I thought that was the right course it be right policy of course it can be tailored, but would be totally tailored, but i would be totally against cutting the against completely cutting the foreign budget spend foreign aid budget to spend money when there are money at home when there are other efficiencies that can be made with annual budget, made with our annual budget, notably with the state pensions to going 22 of millionaires. Go. There we go. There we go. Albie amankona matthew okay. Albie amankona Matthew Goodwin freeman, thank you very much for debating that much indeed for debating that this morning. Well you this morning. And well see you again, guess , again im again, i guess, again soon, im sure. Sure. I think things have to be rethought , matthew, from the rethought, matthew, from the point view that its like an point of view that its like an International Rescue fund as Natural Disaster is increase, increase, increase, youd like to see the world saying we should all group together in this and there should be around the world various units ready to spnng the world various units ready to spring into action when a hurricane strikes or tornado strikes. Flood strikes absolutely. Absolutely. And i think we all agree. I think i think we all agree that there are certain where, there are certain cases where, yes, need to lend out yes, we do need to lend out a helping hand, but sending money to india, sending money to china, thats billions and billions could billions of pounds that we could be spending here. You it amazes me here. You know, it amazes me here. It the politicians it amazes me. The politicians dont on this dont tell the truth on this ehhen dont tell the truth on this either. So youve got someone like sunak obsessed east and the chancellor, chancellor, jeremy hunt, obsessed housekeeping obsessed with Good Housekeeping , as it were. And yet they wont explain to the benefit. Explain to us the benefit. Theyre not doing this out of the goodness of their hearts. Whatever like me think, whatever people like me think, theyre this. Theyre whatever people like me think, theyre something his. Theyre whatever people like me think, theyre Something Back. 1eyre whatever people like me think, theyre Something Back. Sore whatever people like me think, theyre Something Back. So what getting Something Back. So what are back . And why are they getting back . And why dont tell us again, dont they just tell us again, as albie, were not as i said to albie, were not all stupid. And so just tell us, all stupid. And so just tell us, what are we getting back . Are we what are we getting back . Are we getting Something Back . We might see. I havent got a clue what id like to see is some money going into some of things i want into some of the things i want to do locally. Id like some support from that. We can get that the foreign aid that from the foreign aid budget. The money they budget. How about the money they send they can send to send to india . They can send to us here in harrow at Harrow Council we can some council and we can do some amazing locally. We need Amazing Things locally. We need to the things here that to focus on the things here that people about. Here the people care about. Here in the uk, things were never uk, not things that were never going elsewhere. Going to see elsewhere. Okay, views keep them okay, your views keep them coming though. We pretty coming in, though. We can pretty much youre what much judge what youre what youre youre youre saying, what youre thinking one. Thinking on this one. With us. Were right. Stay with us. Were going finding out you recovered from that debate. Now here are your papers on this tuesday morning. Joining us to go through those in more detail, columnist for conservative home, emily carver and writer and journalist mr andy jones is this is a scary story were going to begin with in the telegraph. Emily so kim jong un is cosying up to Vladimir Putin very much so. I mean, hes lent him hes lent putin his support when it comes to the invasion of ukraine. And now it looks like theyre going to be doing more and more weapons deals. Now, the nonh and more weapons deals. Now, the north korean leader, he apparently wants satellite and Nuclear Submarine technology from russia, not worrying at all. And russia wants artillery shells and anti tank missiles from north korea. So its a Little Exchange of sorts , a very Little Exchange of sorts, a very troubling. We know that in terms of, well, geopolitics , were not of, well, geopolitics, were not exactly exactly in the most stable of states. And then to have these two dictators us exchanging weapons and, you know, favours kim jong un, hes got a lot of them because he wants to flex his muscles. He cant use them because he would be wiped off the face of the earth. Basically and so good partner for him to have business wise good for them wise, very good partner for them to have. I mean, north korea, apparently he also wants food aid russia. Yeah. Because aid from russia. Yeah. Because well, impoverished his well, hes impoverished his whole population , so he needs to whole population, so he needs to get food from russia as well. They are two lone rangers in the world. But unfortunately , you world. But unfortunately, you know, there are a lot of dodgy, dodgy regimes out there. Putin easing up on the grain deal with ukraine. It might it might bring a solution there. Might bring a solution there. Well, maybe. But i mean, kim jong un is always firing off missiles into the air and all of this stuff. And they dont seem to be working at the moment. Hes had some failed attempts, but, you know, theyre a packed know, if theyre in a packed together, seemingly together, which seemingly they are for the are, this isnt great for the stability of the world. You know, going to well, you know, hes going to be in a whats it be travelling in a whats it called, a sort armoured called, a sort of armoured train, an armoured train to vladivostok eastern russia. Vladivostok in eastern russia. One know, perhaps one thinks, you know, perhaps two in place. You two of them in one place. You know , a target. Could be an know, a target. It could be an incident. There could be target. Yes. Yes. The big thing that kim jong un wants is this spy technology, because twice to because hes tried twice to launch this Spy Satellite before andifs launch this Spy Satellite before and its failed. And obviously, kim jong is and obviously, kim jong un is relying second and third hand relying on second and third hand information comes to his information when it comes to his foreign affairs. Youve been information when it comes to his foreigto affairs. Youve been information when it comes to his foreigto watch. Youve been information when it comes to his foreigto watch the uve been information when it comes to his foreigto watch the world. Zen information when it comes to his foreigto watch the world. And so able to watch the world. And so if he has his own Spy Satellite, this will be a game for this will be a game changer for kim and putin obviously kim jong un. And putin obviously wants etcetera, from in wants weapons, etcetera, from in return. Return. T t they already have yeah, and they already have so nuclear weapons. 9000. So many nuclear weapons. 9000. So think it was andy. So think it was andy. Lets go to the story in the mail apparently town halls run by the labour party are more than twice as likely to let their staff work from the beach. Yes, due to fancy working from the beach. Yes, thatd be great. It. It. Itd be very nice, wouldnt it . So theres a huge discussion about working from home. And apparently we have we have the second most second largest number of work from home staff in the world behind canada and the mail has run this story where labour has given the most labour councillors have given the most approval for staff to work from home or work outside the office. 875 requests out of 1300 were okayed. Conservatives 1300 were okayed. Conservatives councils were approved , 360. In councils were approved, 360. In different cases. So things like different cases. So things like Leeds Council at seven staff work from pakistan. In another work from pakistan. In another one work from israel, harrow havent sorry, i do apologise allowed a member of staff to work from egypt full time or whilst they go on a holiday. Whilst they go on a holiday. This is long term, so you wouldnt necessarily need permission. You just have a holiday, wouldnt you . And these are work from are doing a bit of work from wherever was. This is long wherever it was. This is long term now the is you term work. Now the point is you may able to do may be able to do the administrative of job administrative part of your job from wherever was with the from wherever it was with the power of the internet. However, councillors should working in councillors should be working in the they are the place that they are representing. Cannot say the place that they are repreyouting. Cannot say the place that they are repreyou understand 1not say the place that they are repreyou understand the say the place that they are repreyou understand the needs that you understand the needs and to know that are and wants to know that these are councillors, these are public staff. Staff. yeah. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, yeah. Theres story doing theres another story doing the rounds about a council in Cambridge Cambridgeshire cambridge in cambridgeshire where theyre this four where theyre doing this four day a week for week. Four day day a week for week. Four day week. Yes. And apparently people cant get their bins collected now on a monday. So theyre telling everyone to go to the tip. So thats helpful, isnt it . Yeah, theyre trialling this in scotland as well, arent they . Digby jones , they . But as lord digby jones, who was in the last Labour Government said, could to government said, you could do to run country with half the run the country with half the size service that weve size Civil Service that weve got well, theres always a big well, theres always a big debate productivity debate about productivity and the in favour of the people who are in favour of the people who are in favour of the four day working week swear blind goes up. The four day working week swear blyou goes up. The four day working week swear blyou either goes up. The four day working week swear blyou either would, goes up. The four day working week swear blyou either would, wouldntip. They . Working week they would. Well they did this long term. Well theyre not going to say this rubbish are they. This is rubbish are they. Study with well they did a study with these companies and asked them to back productivity of their. W i think its their. I think its different yeah, i think its different when comes a public when it comes to a Public Service because you do need to get response day of the get a response every day of the week. I mean, its bad enough as it is to get through to your local council and try and get a driving licence or a passport or yeah. It comes bin yeah. When it comes to bin collections, sort need collections, you sort of need them, dont you . Otherwise its fester and causing fester outside and causing problems. But there you go. Depends the company guess. Depends on the company i guess. Onshore wind what about onshore wind farms . Apparently farms . Emily apparently this is going become easier to going to become easier to achieve as achieve planning permission as long are happy , long as the nimbys are happy, which the big caveat in all which is the big caveat in all of this. Well, exactly. And is well, exactly. And this is the because its all well the issue because its all well and say need more and good to say we need more onshore wind and its a cheap source all this. Source of energy and all this. But then at the local level, people just simply oppose it. And a lot mps support and a lot of mps also support their opposing their constituents in opposing these types green technology. These types of green technology. Always say that we dont think they look bad. I actually wouldnt mind them where i live. I think the problem is where they put tonnes and tonnes in one place. They should just do a sprinkling everywhere, sprinkling everywhere, and then its but you its not so offensive. But you know, were in the next know, 80 were in the field next to house. Maybe id object, to my house. Maybe id object, but or the village would but 3 or 4 in the village would be fine. Be fine. But yeah, today there is a big debate later on in big debate today, later on in the about the the commons about the governments bill. So governments energy bill. So this of these sticking this is one of these sticking points but its good in points, but i think its good in general theyre looking to general that theyre looking to liberalise because liberalise planning laws because this back this is whats been holding back so Building Construction so much Building Construction and so and energy and so on. Unusually, in the daily cameron government, he passed a motion that you only motion that said that you only needed complaint from one needed one complaint from one resident to say that you couldnt have wind farm near couldnt have a wind farm near you, which seems a bit you, which which seems a bit extreme and also, as isabel was alluding to, there , youve got alluding to, there, youve got to careful you wish for. Alluding to, there, youve got to its careful you wish for. Alluding to, there, youve got to its not � ful you wish for. Alluding to, there, youve got to its not ail you wish for. Alluding to, there, youve got to its not a few you wish for. Alluding to, there, youve got to its not a few wind u wish for. Alluding to, there, youve got to its not a few wind terminals. If its not a few wind terminals , it could be, you know, i dont know, houses. Could be a know, 2000 houses. It could be a im rubbish dump. Could be im a rubbish dump. It could be a prison. So people object to these turbines , these wind turbines, turbines, these wind turbines, and yet it throughout the 70s and yet it throughout the 70s and 80s and maybe still even now Housing Developments are built with electric pylons in the back garden of peoples homes. With electric pylons in the back garden of peoples homes. And garden of peoples homes. And you can hear them buzzing and hissing as flies hit them and birds hit them, whatever. Birds hit them, whatever. But at least im not obviously , if you dont want obviously, if you dont want thousands, you dont want it to intrude on your your right to a private life or your area of space. But they are generally a green with a turbine in or green field with a turbine in or a few turbines in as long as you still that green space and still have that green space and it doesnt block you awaab ishak which lets talk about. Which emily, lets talk about. Theres many well, theres so many interesting things here. Invasive , a e in the Invasive Species, a e in the times. Weve got to look out for times. Weve got to look out for this asian hornet, which has got a big orange face. Apparently yeah. A big orange face. Apparently soah. A big orange face. Apparently so the un has done a global study to the cost of Invasive Species. This is bugs and insects etcetera. Not coming overin insects etcetera. Not coming over in life rafts. Were talking about Invasive Species, £336 billion. It costs the planet every year and things that may affect britain include the signal crayfish , they the signal crayfish, they include the grey squirrel. Thats a very obvious one, the Invasive Species and something called a carpet squirt , called a carpet sea squirt, which sounds which sounds very exciting. This is a japanese squirt which attaches itself to marine structures and creates big, thick carpets that block out other species. Even the rhododendron is an Invasive Species. Yes, it is. Knotweed is another one there. What else have we got from japan . Seems they produce these a lot. Lot. The mink as well. Killer shrimp , these Invasive Species shrimp, these Invasive Species can alter communication the way other species communicate , but other species communicate, but equally its you know, particularly not not weeds. Its very expensive. And we have to protect our native species. Well , listen, protect our native species. Well, listen, emily, youre going to have to save your love island story for the next one. Weve teased it earlier, so we will come to that, promise, in will come to that, i promise, in a moments. But for we a few moments. But for now, we say thank you to andy and to emily. And we check in with your forecast with alex burkill. Temperatures rising boxt the temperatures rising boxt solar a proud sponsors of weather on. Gb news. Weather on. Gb news. Hello. Very good morning to you. There is a little bit of mist and fog to watch out for first thing this morning. But once that clears, therell be plenty of hot sunshine around, although out for some although watch out for some strong in the south west strong winds in the south west taking details and taking a look at the details and yes, any mist and fog yes, once any mist and fog clears away, therell be plenty of across bulk of sunshine across the bulk of the uk. Exception perhaps the uk. The exception perhaps being far north of scotland being the far north of scotland where front lingering where there is a front lingering here, bringing a bit of cloud and few spots of and perhaps a few spots of drizzly rain as well. Otherwise lots of sunshine. Watch for lots of sunshine. Watch out for some blustery winds in some strong, blustery winds in the south west. Now they will take edge off the take the edge off the temperatures but temperatures a little bit, but for its to be a for many, its going to be a little hotter than it was little bit hotter than it was yesterday. Highs around 31 celsius towards the south east. Later we are going to later on today, we are going to see some cloud drifting in see some low cloud drifting in from the north sea. So some higher, some sea fret affecting parts of eastern and parts of eastern scotland and eastern North Eastern england. Low clouds, some murky conditions here. Further south and west, clearer skies. But i am expecting mist and fog am expecting some mist and fog patches to develop and temperatures again , not dropping temperatures again, not dropping a huge amount. So its likely to be another relatively warm night for most of as we go through for most of us as we go through wednesday itself. Slow , murky wednesday itself. A slow, murky start then for some eastern North Eastern parts. But that low should gradually burn low cloud should gradually burn back the coast for back towards the coast for most the around the exception, perhaps around eastern parts of scotland. I am expecting the low cloud here to unger expecting the low cloud here to linger well into the afternoon. Otherwise, yes, it may be a touch cloudier than some recent days, but plenty of sunshine to be temperatures could be be had and temperatures could be even with highs even higher still with highs around 32 celsius. The temperatures rising , boxt the temperatures rising, boxt solar proud sponsors of weather on. Gb news. On. Gb news. Thank you. Thank you. Want stories. Want stories. Want stories. Good grief to the foreign aid debate, cathy said we should send money to the countries that are in need. We should not send money to india who have a Space Programme or china. And thats a theme thats cropping up all the time on this one. Yeah, keep your thoughts coming in on that hot debate on the foreign aid budget. Also, lots of responding in the lots of you responding in the papers to a debate about papers there to a debate about onshore wind farms. Keith cheshire says careful what cheshire says be careful what you where i live, they you wish for. Where i live, they objected ikea. They won. Objected to an ikea. They won. But on the same site later, they built transfer site. But built a waste transfer site. But they wish theyd gone for ikea. They wish theyd gone for ikea. What about appointments at your waste filled sites . I just saw last night on the news in Northern Ireland that you have to make an appointment not to dump stuff off at your tip. What dump stuff off at your tip. What is the point of that . What is the point of that . Why cant you just turn up when you need when you must us good morning. Its just gone 8 00 on tuesday, the 5th of september. Youre tuned in to breakfast on gb news with eamonn and isabel leading the news this morning. Gillian keegan is fighting to keep her cabinet position even after using an expletive and claiming she was doing a good job while unaware she was still being recorded. Being recorded. Well, it comes as schools across the country, including this one behind me, have had to delay the start of term after their buildings were deemed unsafe. Ill have the latest. Unsafe. Ill have the latest. Keir starmer has said he has the strongest possible players on the pitch following a reshuffle aimed at preparing labour for government. Five of labour for government. Five of his new top team were special advisers under tony blair. The Police Federation of Northern Ireland has called for an investigation into the actions of simon byrne. He was actions of simon byrne. He was the chief constable. He has the chief constable. He has since resigned. Hes chief constable of the Police Service of Northern Ireland. And the good weather is continuing. Well have your latest forecast with alex burkill. Hello. A little bit of mist and fog around. First thing this morning, but otherwise plenty of sunshine and temperatures rising even further as we go through the. Ill more later. The week. Ill have more later. Chilling keegans fighting to keep her cabinet position this morning after she apologised for using an expletive while claiming she was doing a good job. But she was doing a good job. But she was not aware that she was still being recorded on camera. While the education secretary has been under fire over the past 24 hours for being on houday past 24 hours for being on holiday as more evidence of unsafe concrete in schools came to light. To light. And now the National Audit office has accused the government of using a sticking plaster approach. Thousands of plaster approach. Thousands of children currently unable to return to lessons. Return to lessons. Well, lets speak now to our national reporter, ellie costello, who joins us from Buckhurst Hill community Primary School. And ellie, you are one school. And ellie, you are one of the schools that are directly affected by this, presumably lots children lots of disappointed children wanting to get back in the classroom and worried parents as well. Well. Yes, absolutely. A delayed yes, absolutely. A delayed start of term here at Buckhurst Hill community Primary School. They were meant to start on monday, but they are one of these schools that has been deemed unsafe due to this rack concrete. Their start of term has now been delayed until next monday. The headteacher having monday. The headteacher having to send a letter out to parents saying they are looking at alternative teaching arrangements for these children. So it is set to open again on monday, but it does depend on whether those headteachers those teachers have managed to come up with an alternative arrangement. And it does seem as though essex is going to be the most affected county in the country with this rack concrete. Its with this rack concrete. Its that air rated lighter , weaker that air rated lighter, weaker concrete than regular concrete that was used extensively in buildings between 1960 and 19 90s. Thats the time when a lot of schools in essex were being built. And so far its thought built. And so far its thought that 65 schools on that list of 156 schools in england , 65 of 156 schools in england, 65 of them are in essex alone. So a third of those schools are in just one county. So, yes, izzy , just one county. So, yes, izzy, there are going to be very disappointed. Children and parents who cant yet go back to school. So a far from ideal start to the autumn term for those children and those parents and a far from ideal start out of parliament term. If you can call it that for Gillian Keegan , the education secretary. Shes come under fire for being caught on microphone yesterday, criticising her colleagues. Lets have a listen to what she had to say. Thank you very much. Thank you very much. Thank you very much. Thank you. Thank you. Jot down just a few to just marcus setchell. Does anyone ever say, you know what youve done a good job because everyone else has sat on there and done nothing. No. No signs of that. No. No. No signs of that. No. No. No signs of that. No. Sorry, ellie, can you can you hear us . Ellie . I think communication. I can hear you now. She cant. Yeah off you go. Off you go. We just saw the. The clip with Gillian Keegan. Clip with Gillian Keegan. Right. Well, Gillian Keegan keegan has since apologised for her language there. She says that she wasnt aiming those comments at anyone in particular ehhen comments at anyone in particular either. And it does seem so far as though rishi sunak has accepted that apology and is happy for her to continue as education secretary. But there is that pressure mounting on her this morning because not only for those comments, those expletives yesterday , but also expletives yesterday, but also pressure and criticism coming from the fact that she was on houday from the fact that she was on holiday when this crisis first started to unfold. She was in spain. When she has come back to spain. When she has come back to that, saying she was taking meetings at the time while she was in spain and returned as soon as she was needed. She has soon as she was needed. She has since tweeted , saying the vast since tweeted, saying the vast majority of schools will be unaffected by rak concrete, but she says where they have been confirmed , these schools are confirmed, these schools are going to have a dedicated caseworker that is going to work quickly to provide support for those children and those parents. She also says that funding will be rapid. Parents. She also says that funding will be rapid. But parents. She also says that funding will be rapid. But izzy funding will be rapid. But izzy and eamonn, there are so many questions remaining about this crisis, including how long has the government known about this . How long has Gillian Keegan, the education secretary, known about this and the seriousness of it . And when will that full list of schools be published . Labour is already calling for it. Rishi sunak speaking yesterday, saying that could actually take several weeks. They are something that weeks. They are something that theyre looking at at the moment. But rishi sunak says that so far 95 of the 22,000 schools in england will be unaffected, but that does leave open the possibility that up to a thousand schools could have this collapse. Risk material in their buildings. So far, a list of just over 100, but downing street have said they do expect that total number to be in the hundreds rather than the thousands. But of course, questions remain for parents and children up and down the country. How long is this going to take to fix . And the big question is whos going to pay for it all . Well , for it all . Well, dont start that one again. It is back to the foreign aid budget. Thank you. Thank you very much indeed, ellie. And of course , ellies talking about course, ellies talking about schools. Theyre not just schools. Theyre not just schools. Could be hospitals, hospitals, Civil Service buildings. We could have a buildings. We could have a buildings that have been converted into coffee bars, restaurants, bars in general, apartments, residence , things. Apartments, residence, things. So so much of a mess. This whole thing we do have the government coming on in around 40 minutes time, 10 to 9, were told. Were going to be able to speak to nick gig. Hes nick gibb. Hes one down from Gillian Keegan. To know keegan. Be interested to know what thoughts are who what his thoughts are on who gillian talking about yesterday. He is one sitting around him was was he sitting on his backside . Thats the question. Backside . Thats the question. Because hes been in the department of education for years and years and years is how much did he know . When did he know . What did he do about it . And if he didnt, why didnt he do anything about it . Do anything about it . Now were going to turn our attention ireland. Attention to Northern Ireland. Simon as chief simon byrne resigned as chief constable Police Service constable of the Police Service of Northern Ireland yesterday with immediate and this of Northern Ireland yesterday withconfirmede and this of Northern Ireland yesterday withconfirmed by and this of Northern Ireland yesterday withconfirmed by the and this of Northern Ireland yesterday withconfirmed by the policing s board. His resignation was accepted and there were a series of controversies this summer. Data leaks, 10,000 staff details their names, their addresses posted publicly. Were now joined by Northern Ireland reporter Dougie Beattie, an and he felt he could weather the storm. Dougie and its so political. Everything is so political. Everything is so political. He political. Everything is so political. He had no political. Everything is so political. He had no intention political. He had no intention of resigning , but eventually he of resigning, but eventually he caved in. Yesterday. Indeed him caved in. Yesterday. Indeed him and he came into the policing board last thursday and left in a in a very aggressive manner, it must be said and said, im not resigning. Not resigning. Definitely not resigning. Well you have the weekend to think about stuff and you read the room and think, okay, i havent got support there. And havent got support there. And really this morning he would have had to have faced a Northern Ireland select affairs committee. And the difference with that committee is , of with that committee is, of course, it is public. Its televised. And unlike the televised. And unlike the policing board , and he would policing board, and he would have had some very, very difficult questions to answer over the weekend. He must have drawn up his resignation and said , thats it, im going. But said, thats it, im going. But on the other side of that, eamonn, who would have had the job of the chief constable of the Police Service of Northern Ireland, this is probably the hardest job in policing in europe because at the very top of it , you europe because at the very top of it, you have a divided society. Not as bad as it was 25 society. Not as bad as it was 25 years ago, it must be said , but years ago, it must be said, but still a lot of history hanging around there. And of course, you have the policing board, your political masters that you have to walk that tightrope with , and to walk that tightrope with, and then you have your Management Team itself. You have the chief constable, which is all operational. And then down below operational. And then down below that you probably have could be argued the most important relationship. And thats where the Police Federation, thats what your rank and file officers and they really did start to lose trust in him. And thats what this is all down to trust. And confidence. And indeed, the Police Federation, it could be argued, lost trust and confidence in the policing board because they extended the chief constables contract out even after the two officers were were pulled up. And since in a judicial review had been ruled that it was an unlawful disciplinary action, that eventually caused the chief constable to have to go. So in that Westminster Committee today, of course, the chief constable not be there. We believe it will be assistant chief constable todd that will be there and we believe liam kelly of the policing federation will be up first. But meanwhile , back here, deputy chief constable Mark Hamilton will be taking the reins for the foreseeable future as the man in charge. You know, dougie , im just you know, dougie, im just thinking youre sitting, youre looking after some constab burglary somewhere in the United Kingdom and you think your jobs tough and you think youre qualified for this, and then on top of all the other conventional crime, youve got mob crime. You know , you youve mob crime. You know, you youve got civil unrest, youve got riots , youve got gun crime, riots, youve got gun crime, youve got goodness knows what who the heck would want it . Who the heck would want it . No, definitely not. Definitely not. Its a big ask. And when you when you have to go to others to look to have your back and theyre not, theyre really i wouldnt want the job. Definitely not. And i dont know too many in policing that would but it takes a special set of skills and they may just find that with those set of skills. Yeah you know what youd look goodin yeah you know what youd look good in a uniform. Thats a whole other story. Thank you very indeed. Dougie very much indeed. Dougie beattie. There lets about beattie. There lets talk about the weather. The weather. Oh, go on, then. Yes. This unexpected heat wave. Its like a bonus. I do quite an a late bonus. I do quite like an indian summer, they call it. Indian summer, as they call it. Indian summer, as they call it. I mean, its a shame for the school kids, but, you know, if were have a summer, at were going to have a summer, at least have it somewhere. So september as good september will do. Its as good as any, isnt it . Temperatures set to soar to degrees. This week. So that means this weekend uk is to be hotter than ibiza is going to be hotter than ibiza. Our southwest jeff. Our southwest reporter jeff moody is at instow beach in devon for us. Tough gig and oh, it looks nice already. It looks nice already. Geoff it is. Thank you very much for this gig. Spending a day on instow beach is really quite pleasant. Thank you for that. Yes, well, weve been hoping and praying an indian summer, praying for an indian summer, havent after that, havent we . After that, really unseasonably wet july and that very mixed last august. So weve all been praying for this and our prayers have been answered. Weve got a week of this when temperatures expected to get temperatures are expected to get up temperatures are expected to get up around 32 degrees during up to around 32 degrees during the day, which certainly the day, which is certainly unseasonable for this time of the. But also more than the year. But also more than that, its going to be hot at night. Theyre saying that on wednesday thursday , we could wednesday and thursday, we could hit 20 c during the night. And thats what they classify as a tropical night. So sunny days, tropical night. So sunny days, tropical nights to come for the next week. But of course, with the good weather comes the warnings. Theres a Heat Health Warnings. Theres a Heat Health Warning in place, a yellow warning in place, a yellow warning. And that means, of warning. And that means, of course, that people , elderly course, that people, elderly people or people that are susceptive to warm weather need to take extra care. But theres to take extra care. But theres certainly welcome news for the tourist industry, which has suffered enormously , suffered enormously, particularly down here in the south west during the summer months, there were all sort of looking towards what they call the shoulder months. Thats september and parts of october when they really need to be trying to claw back some money in order to keep them going. And thriving during the winter months. So the hope is that this continues as long as possible, but were not hearing that its going to be lasting too long. There was one report that said that it would last all of september, most of september, but most of the reports, if look at them as reports, if you look at them as an average, of reports an average, most of the reports say really this is going to say that really this is going to go until around 9 00 on go on until around 9 00 on sunday and after which sunday evening. And after which case, temperatures dip considerably. They sort considerably. And then they sort of hover around the average for this of year. So schools this time of year. So schools back. But if youve got some spare time, head to the beach for the next week because were going to see some glorious sunshine and im going to be eating ice cream today eating a lot of ice cream today and that jacket off, for and take that jacket off, for goodness sake. Thank you much indeed, thank you very much indeed, jeff. Yes, jeff by the seaside. Jeff. Yes, jeff by the seaside. It does make me laugh when we always do these comparisons with places like abitha. Its going to than abitha. To be hotter than abitha. Havent in havent they got floods in madrid moment cars madrid at the moment with cars being down street . Being washed down the street . I mean, is pretty much mean, anywhere is pretty much hotter than some really scary scenes in madrid. Bad weather. Hotter than some really scary sce thein madrid. Bad weather. Hotter than some really scary sce the underground d weather. Hotter than some really scary sce the underground flooded er. Hotter than some really scary sce the underground flooded and the underground flooded and people board trains and people on board trains and things , really Pretty Things really, really pretty ghastly. Lets bring things really, really pretty ghastly. Lets bring you up to date news wise. Whats date news wise. Heres whats happening. Ministers will have a new duty safeguard high new duty to safeguard high street banks , post offices street banks, post offices and cash machines. This follows cash machines. This follows a defeat in the house of lords for the governments flagship levelling bill. Levelling up bill. 1 in 4 of you could not afford an unexpected bill of £200. New polling has found that 28 of you said the rise in the cost of living has made you feel financially insecure. The and keeping up with bills and credit repayments was a heavy burden and consumers are calling out supermarkets as more than half of them say theyve noticed skimp flation which has lowered the quality of food and drink products. Inflation is the downgrade in the quality of ingredients and the quality of ingredients and the size as well of certain products , while the price products, while the price remains as the same or even more expensive. I dont know. I remains as the same or even more expensive. I dont know. I dont expensive. I dont know. I dont know what im laughing at really. Its not funny. Its not funny. Its another word for it. What thievery. Thievery. Robbery. Robbery as a matter of fact, the only thing i know that is bigger than it was last year me. And heres was last year is me. And heres your forecast that warm feeling inside from boxt boilers proud sponsors of weather on. Gb news. Sponsors of weather on. Gb news. Hello. Very good morning to you. There is a little bit of mist and fog to watch out for first thing this morning. But once that clears, therell be plenty of hot sunshine around, although out for some although watch out for some strong winds in south west. Strong winds in the south west. Taking the details and taking a look at the details and yes, any mist and fog yes, once any mist and fog clears therell be plenty clears away, therell be plenty of the bulk of sunshine across the bulk of the uk. The exception perhaps being north of scotland the uk. The exception perhaps being there north of scotland the uk. The exception perhaps being there is|orth of scotland the uk. The exception perhaps being there is a� th of scotland the uk. The exception perhaps being there is a front scotland the uk. The exception perhaps being there is a front lingering where there is a front lingering here, bringing a bit of cloud and perhaps spots of and perhaps a few spots of drizzly rain as well. Otherwise lots of sunshine. Watch out for lots of sunshine. Watch out for some winds in some strong, blustery winds in the they will the south west. Now they will take off the take the edge off the temperatures a bit, but temperatures a little bit, but for its to be a for many, its going to be a little hotter was little bit hotter than it was yesterday. Highs around 31 celsius south east celsius towards the south east later on we are going to later on today, we are going to see some low cloud drifting in from the north sea. So some higher, some sea fret affecting parts of eastern scotland and eastern North Eastern england. Low clouds, some murky conditions here further south and west, clearer skies. But i am expecting some mist and fog patches to develop and temperatures, not temperatures, again, not dropping a huge amount. So its likely be relatively likely to be another relatively warm for most of us as we warm night for most of us as we go through wednesday itself. A slow, murky start then for some eastern North Eastern parts. But that low cloud should gradually burn towards the coast for burn back towards the coast for most exception , perhaps most the exception, perhaps around parts of around eastern parts of scotland. I am expecting the low cloud here to linger well into the afternoon. Otherwise, yes, the afternoon. Otherwise, yes, it may be touch cloudier than it may be a touch cloudier than some days, but plenty of some recent days, but plenty of sunshine and sunshine to be had and temperatures could be even higher highs around higher still with highs around 32 celsius. 32 celsius. That warm feeling inside from boxt boilers as proud sponsors of weather on. Gb news. Of weather on. Gb news. Right. Please do stay with us. A week on from the deployment of ulez, well be asking what police should be doing about the vandal, asking what police should be doing about the vandal , those doing about the vandal, those who oppose it and cut down the cameras and mess everything up. All the technology. They are all the technology. They are called blade runners. More on called blade runners. More on that after this though honestly, i did a program once on sleep pods and why its so important. So if during the day and these were in working environments , if during the day environments, if during the day or afternoon you felt the sleep descended on you, you could go climb into this little pod, close it, and your colleagues are working around you and you can have a little nap. You put headphones on. Well, the problem is we both woke up well ahead of our alarms this morning. I was awake about 1 00 just lying 1 00 and just lying there waiting alarm off. And waiting for alarm to go off. And you the same. We should you said the same. We should have had a phone conversation. Flat on my back. The i lay flat on my back. The room was in darkness, and i still want i was able to just envisage right . So im envisage this. Right . So im lying flat on my and im lying flat on my back and im thinking everywhere is dark around was only around me. The noise was only disrupted of disrupted by the sound of someone snoring beside me. But. But. But. But i then put my hand to get to knock her out. The alarm clock. No, no, no. Look at the clock. No, no, no. Look at the alarm clock. And it knocked over alarm clock. And it knocked over a glass of oh, no fruit, fruity dnnk a glass of oh, no fruit, fruity drink that i had no. And that drink that i had no. And that was all over the place. So i was. I was the worst in the world in the carpet. Oh, no. Quite right. Then. Oh, no. Quite right. Then. Oh, no. Quite right. Then. Sleep pod would solve things, wouldnt it . And with a drink holder presumably still to come at a 8 45, we are going to be were going to ask the schools minister nick gibb, was he sitting on his backside . Yeah, as the education secretary was was pointing accusing a few was pointing to accusing a few people because hes been in the job of schools for a thousand years or whatever. And so were years or whatever. And so were going to be talking to nick gibb 8 45 and well be talking about this heat wave. Do apparently it means all this lovely weather that we get this lovely weather that we get this sustained summer this longer sustained summer penod this longer sustained summer period because we had hot weather at beginning, didnt weather at the beginning, didnt we . Get these big we . Is it means we get these big creepy asian hornets creepy crawlies, asian hornets are making if big are making their way. If big round orange faces a bit like me right. They have got theyve got those faces and theyre bigger than a normal hornet and they kill bees. Honey bees. Kill bees. Honey bees. Terrible. So were going to be finding out what you can do if you spot some. I think basically avoid them because theyve nasty no, kill theyve got a nasty no, kill them. Gb views you want to them. Them gb views you want to be swatting them, dont you . Not natural with one. Theyre not natural with one. Theyre not natural with one. Yeah. Theyre not natural with one. Iteah. Theyre not natural with one. It could be genetically modified. Your views. You modified. Your views. Have you spotted got spotted one. Have you got a picture of one . Asian hornet. Picture of one . An asian hornet. Gb views gbnews. Com it used to be a superhero called the hornet. Whatever didnt have an orange face. No, i think it was green. No, he couldnt have been green. No, he couldnt have been green. No, he couldnt have been green. That was the flash. I dont know. But anyway, when i was a kid, we had the hornet. Was a kid, we had the hornet. And i dont know what happened to the hornet. He obviously didnt seem to be attractive enough for todays modern age run. The sting. Right. Were run. The sting. Right. Were going to talk about vigilantes now. So a lot of people protesting about the anti low emission zone. Theyre called bladerunners. And these people bladerunners. And these people and basically they just vandalise and crack up the cameras and the technology available. Well, yes. Available. Well, yes. So a crowdsourced map of cameras online suggests that hundreds of devices have already been vandalised since the ultra low emission zone was introduced a week ago. So were asking this morning , is time for the morning, is it time for the police crack down on these police to crack down on these blade or is this a sign blade runners or is this a sign that the public are not on board with ulez Expansion Scheme . With this ulez Expansion Scheme . Joining us to debate this anti ulez campaigner , we say anti ulez campaigner, we say good morning to michelle chisholm, who says that the police shouldnt get tough on the blade runners. And there is the blade runners. And there is the blade runners. And there is the climate columnist at the independent, donna mccarthy, who says its high time that the police do get tougher on all of this. Very good to see you both. Michelle why would you be in favour of people smashing up this technology . This technology . And to be honest with you , and to be honest with you, im not in favour of people smashing up technology. But what i am in favour of is what these people are representing. And i understand the reasons why this is happening. I wouldnt necessarily say its smashing up technology. We have Senior Citizens putting bags over cameras. We have people spraying cameras. We have people spraying cameras. Cameras. We have people spraying cameras. Some cameras have been broken. Some cameras have been broken. Some cameras have been taken down. Now, ill be honest with you, i dont actually know who the blade runners are. Ive seen lots of posts on facebook, which basically all give praise to the blade runners in fact, if you look on twitter and ask a question, do you condone the blade runners . Every body bar the few exceptions like donelan say yes, they do support them. And its not about trying to be a vandal. Its about making a vandal. Its about making making a point when all else has failed. People are asking how do failed. People are asking how do we defend ourselves . What can we do . Were under attack and nobody is listening. Theyve nobody is listening. Theyve tried every method. Theyve tried every method. Theyve written to mps. Theyve had over written to mps. Theyve had over 20 protests, none of which have been reported in Mainstream Media to the point that they went to the bbc to protest outside thinking that that way they would receive some coverage and absolutely nothing. Nobodys and absolutely nothing. Nobodys listening to the people on the petitions saying no. The people petitions saying no. The people say no. The. Uk is saying no as well. Hes shaking his head yes, give us your response, tanika. Give us your response, tanika. Well, the idea that the ulez protests have received no coverage in the media is just shows how much untruthfulness is in this position. The idea that in this position. The idea that shes supporting the vandalism of cameras that are protecting childrens lives is the whole point of ulez is to reduce the pollution in london, Something Like 600,000 people suffer from asthma. In london, 240,000 asthma. In london, 240,000 children often suffer from asthma. And the nhs says theres asthma. And the nhs says theres a clear link between acute asthmatic attacks and air pollution. London has around 12 asthmatic kids dying every year , and britain has the highest mortality rate for child asthma. So the mayor, as an asthmatic himself, is taking action. He is backed twice in in elections for the london mayor. He twice stood on a platform saying he would clean our air. Hes delivered that. And the every single major opinion poll carried out of londoners shows we support it because we want cleaner air. So the police must act because these are not just ordinary vandals. These are vandals that are attacking equipment that is seeking to clean londons air so our children can be safe walking to school with cleaner air, which i think is a human right. Well, michelle, i mean, he has a point there, donica, doesnt he . Because you know, ultimately, if people dont like ulez, they can vote khan ulez, they can vote sadiq khan out at labour mayoral out at the labour Mayoral Election next year. They can even vote for labour or sorry for the conservatives when it comes to the general election on this. Youve said theyre opposed to expansion of the opposed to the expansion of the ultra low zone. Ultra low emission zone. Vandalism answer. Ultra low emission zone. Vanokayn answer. Ultra low emission zone. Vanokay. Answer. Ultra low emission zone. Vanokay. So answer. Ultra low emission zone. Vanokay. So in answer. Ultra low emission zone. Vanokay. So in regardsanswer. Ultra low emission zone. Vanokay. So in regards to. Wer. Ultra low emission zone. Vanokay. So in regards to donna okay. So in regards to donna questions, donna has changed, gone off topic and its now become about children and asthma. Were not talking about that today. Donna but what im going to say to you is not so long ago, you wrote an article to say that you wanted all domestic pets to be banned. And right now , cats are a big yes, right now, cats are a big yes, you did. Cats are a big trigger for asthma. Are you telling me that in maybe in the future, the mayor will introduce a pet pollution tax . Lets kill all our animals because theyre causing pollution. Lets get rid of all log burners. Theyre causing pollution. Where does it stop . Gonna happen in 2021, the stop . Gonna happen in 2021, the guardian wrote an article saying that log burners were the cause of the bulk of our pollution, but yet in 2023, the guardian and the same newspaper is now reporting that vehicles are the problem. Now, the problem is problem. Now, the problem is that the all the jacobs reports and the mayors own assessment reports say negligible impact getting rid of old cars will cause negligible impact. Have you read that report . You read that report . It its very clear that they have you read that report . Have you read that report . What do you know what that means . The it what it will do is reduce nox pollution by 10 and reduce nox pollution by 10 and reduce nought point nought. One particulates by 16. One particulates by 16. And that actually means particulates are the worst form of pollution in they cause theyre linked to cancer dementia , asthma and heart dementia, asthma and heart diseases. And every Major Medical institution in london and the uk says we must bring down road transport pollution. And that is what the mayor is doing. You are correct. We should also tackle other sources of pollution, whether wood of pollution, whether its wood burning and agriculture offshoot et cetera. They all need to be tackled because it is one of the greatest impacts on health in the uk is air pollution. And actually but on the point of the poon actually but on the point of the poor, 80 of londoners do not own a car and they pay the price and the pollution. And the biggest , the biggest, the biggest, the biggest, the biggest, the biggest, the biggest attack on poor people in out in london in terms of transport costs. Is that the is transport costs. Is that the is that the tory government has insisted that the that the mayor imposes the highest public transport fares in in the world and poor people should in london should not have to pay that. And secondly , the tory government secondly, the tory government has taken away the free travel for pensioners for travel, and those are the biggest attacks on poor people in london. Is high pollution. Pollution. Again, were off topic. The question is what do people do to defend themselves . You and i met last week in cudham , right . We last week in cudham, right . We shook hands. Last week in cudham, right . We shook hands. I wanted to last week in cudham, right . We shook hands. I wanted to talk to shook hands. I wanted to talk to you. You run away right now. You you. You run away right now. You were in cudham. There is no pubuc were in cudham. There is no public transport in cudham. Public transport in cudham. These people cannot move without transport. They are sick and tired, demonstrating pro testing, writing to mps. The testing, writing to mps. The government wants it stopped for now, but will not step in. The mayor of london is not listening to the people. Donna sick. 86 to the people. Donna sick. 86 of people said no , no but of people said no, no but himself in 2021 said no. But michel, you complain about going off topic. I mean, the question is about vandalism and youre saying this is the only way to have your voice heard. Are you therefore in favour like the favour of things like the toppling the Edward Colston toppling of the Edward Colston statue bristol and having it statue in bristol and having it thrown into the sea . If people statue in bristol and having it thrown certaine sea . If people statue in bristol and having it thrown certain views,if people statue in bristol and having it thrown certain views, vandalism oppose certain views, vandalism is okay. I dont agree with that. Its i dont agree with that. Its not that i agree with the vandalism. I dont i dont vandalism. I dont i dont condone vandalism. But what im saying is that people are desperate. Theyre frightened. Desperate. Theyre frightened. Theyre afraid. Theyre at the end of their tether. They all the peaceful protests, they had cakes and coffee, you know. But whats becoming now, people are getting more and more and more angry because nobody is listening to them. A final thought from donna didnt want to go down stockwell. To go down the stockwell. Very important. I think its very important. I think its very important out that very important to point out that there to £5,000 available there is up to £5,000 available for person in london to for any person in london to switch their car to a cleaner vehicle. Theres up to 11,000 for small. I just stop you there . Can i just stop you there . Have tried . Have you tried . Really good. Really good. Really good. Its really good. Its not really good. Its not 5000. Its 2000. Its really donelan. Sorry, can i. Can i finish . Its not 5000. Its 3000. Its up to 2000. And its actually not readily available. Actually not readily available. Its £5,000 available for people who are disabled to reach the car. And the really good news i want to end on a positive is 15,000 dirty car owners appued is 15,000 dirty car owners applied for the grant in the week before ulez came out. So its launched and you are negative. And the car . Negative. And the car . No, no, no. Guys, weve got to leave it there. 15,000 vehicles have been sent to the country. People are selling their cars and sending them to the country. We are now, folks, got to leave it there. Michelle donica, thank you both very much indeed. Thank you. Well leave it there. And i suppose the question is, if you agree with the vandalisation of the ulez cameras and monitors, where does it stop . I mean, i was trying to say i have a very good friend who basically was was driving through a 20 mile an hour zone at 22 miles an hour was flashed and flashed by that. And almost her anger at this. I think if she had a hammer or a hacksaw , she should have or hacksaw, she should have or a machine gun in her hand. And i think she would have taken that camera out. So where does it stop, isabel . Where does it stop . I would never vandalise anything. And i didnt say it was you. Oh, sorry. Whoops yeah. Now, my husband knows oopsie. I got flashed by speeding camera this 22 hour. This morning. 22 miles an hour. But you told me, you but when you told me, you said i got flashed today, i thought some dirty, horrible old man you were showing you busted. Im so law abiding. I drive so slowly the whole way 22 so slowly the whole way in 22 miles not all lanes of miles an hour. Not all lanes of traffic, not a soul on the road, maybe some kindly understanding official will look and theyll say, well, thats only 22 and a 20. Its 10. Its 10. And it was at 4 00 in the morning, you know, so maybe theyll say , yeah. Theyll say, yeah. Anyway, there you go. Anyway, there you go. Anyway, there you go. Thats depressed me. Thanks for. Stay with us. Were for that. Stay with us. Were going to be debating some more things all the stories in things all the big stories in the emily carver, andy the papers. Emily carver, andy jones, that. Weve 839 is the time. Welcome back. 839 is the time. Welcome back. Were going through the papers with the columnist for conservativehome and gb news presenter emily carver and the writer and journalist andy jones. Back both of jones. Welcome back to both of you. You. Emily. Well you. Thank you. Emily. Well start with you. I feel like weve started with you every start with you. I feel like weveatarted with you every start with you. I feel like wevea little with you every start with you. I feel like wevea little bitth you every start with you. I feel like wevea little bit of you every hour, a little bit of favouritism going on here, but can start with the telegraph, can we start with the telegraph, the blairites is the march of the blairites is the march of the blairites is the theyre reporting this the way theyre reporting this shadow reshuffle shadow Cabinet Reshuffle yesterday. Its yesterday. And i think its something former blair Something Like five former blair advisers now in the shadow frontbench. Advisers now in the shadow froryesnch. Advisers now in the shadow froryes. h. Advisers now in the shadow froryes. So it is a bit of a yes. So it is a bit of a march the right. March of the blair right. Although, of keir although, of course, keir starmer Angela Starmer himself and Angela Rayner and lisa nandy were quite comfortable under mr corbyn. So its not all packed full of, of a traditionally blairite people. But yes, liz, kendall, hilary benn and others , pat mcfadden benn and others, pat mcfadden have all come back into the fold in a major way. But whats interesting about this particular analysis is that it highlights how the left of the party might be feeling right now. So momentum have said , you. So momentum have said, you know, this was a chance for the labour party to set out a real vision. Instead, weve witnessed the promotion of a narrow band of blairite unwilling to offer the decisive change the country is crying out for. Theres a lot of people on the left of the labour party who are still so deeply traumatised by the fact that jeremy didnt get that Jeremy Corbyn didnt get wasnt in way wasnt received in the way they thought should thought he should be. Quite interesting, way quite interesting, the way this reported and even this is being reported and even the right wing press reading the right wing press was reading by nelson in the by Fraser Nelson in the spectator that spectator this morning that the demotion ashworth, spectator this morning that the dem we n ashworth, spectator this morning that the dem we spoke ashworth, spectator this morning that the dem we spoke to ashworth, spectator this morning that the dem we spoke to on ashworth, spectator this morning that the dem we spoke to on the. Hworth, spectator this morning that the dem we spoke to on the programme who we spoke to on the programme a couple of hours ago, was actually disappointing actually a really disappointing move. He said. Was alarming move. He said. It was alarming to hed been replaced and he to see hed been replaced and he successfully case for successfully made the case for saving lives, not just money, for months. Think thats for months. And i think thats quite unexpected to have right quite unexpected to have a right wing say that wing commentator to say that about a change of shadow position for Jonathan Ashworth yeah, think we have make yeah, i think we have to make the that most most of the the point that most most of the electorate dont whos in electorate dont know whos in the alone in the the cabinet, let alone in the shadow but not important. It is very important no, no, it is very important because this potentially could because this potentially could be government and be our next government and i think has taken think keir starmer has taken that board. He when you have that on board. He when you have a party thats been out of government years, its government for 13 years, its very difficult have any very difficult to have any government on your government experience on your front benches. But he has reached era reached for these tony blair era politicians hilary politicians from fadden, hilary benn, liz kendall and liz kendall. , has had a kendall. Of course, has had a few punch ups with Jeremy Corbyn in past. Its very in the past. And so its very much we were discussing much as we were discussing a moment ago, moving away again and from that corbyn era and again from that corbyn era and again from that corbyn era and centrist , and having a quite a centrist, sensible, competent , perhaps sensible, competent, perhaps looking party shadow coming out against what the government has when the government is lurching from one disaster to the next. Yeah, its looking like they wont particularly left wing wont be particularly left wing when it comes to economy, when it comes to the economy, although truss, weve although after liz truss, weve seen not a lot is seen that actually not a lot is allowed really by the markets in terms of spending, they will terms of spending, but they will be propped wobbly, extremely internationalist in their outlook, very socially liberal. And most of these people. So and most of these people. So that wont suit a lot of voters. But yes, theyre not theyre getting away from the corbyn era. Keir starmer is being ruthless. Hes already been many reports about how hes going to ditch mps who have had any reputational issues in the past. So there you go. Ruth some people are saying hes out of ideas. Just returning to the old blair norm anyway. Andy lets talk about soaring shop thefts. This page ten of thefts. This is in page ten of thefts. This is in page ten of the sun. And apparently high streets have given up. Its fair game. Help yourselves. Streets have given up. Its fair garyeah,lp yourselves. Streets have given up. Its fair garyeah, the ourselves. Streets have given up. Its fair garyeah, the highelves. Streets have given up. Its fair garyeah, the high street has had yeah, the high street has had it in the neck for, well over along with this economy. Covid councils been very much anti cars, low traffic neighbourhoods in ulez weve been talking about on this show a moment ago, crippling rents, online shopping, people not bothering to the high street all to go to the high street at all and up 24 on the and shoplifting is up 24 on the high street dunelm mill apparently the furniture place, the furnishings place, has the soft furnishings place, has started putting pillowcases and bedding behind locked cabinets because so often because theyre stolen so often. And chris philp, Police Minister , has been saying that, minister, has been saying that, look, if his new edict is if there is cctv, the police has to investigate. We cannot have in his eyes a San Francisco situation where theyve just given up on crime. And you see given up on crime. And you see these videos from San Francisco and indeed, ive seen them in london and some of our cities where people are just running in stealing ripped stealing stuff, ripped phones off wall phone stores, off the wall in phone stores, etcetera, etcetera, and just running again. And we have running out again. And we have to tough on crime, to be tough on crime, particularly theres particularly when theres evidence it. You know, particularly when theres evide is; it. You know, particularly when theres evide is always it. You know, particularly when theres evide is always thisit. You know, particularly when theres evide is always this discussion w, there is always this discussion about this cost of living crisis and unaffordable bills. About this cost of living crisis and mean, naffordable bills. About this cost of living crisis and mean, isffordable bills. About this cost of living crisis and mean, is there ble bills. About this cost of living crisis and mean, is there everills. About this cost of living crisis and mean, is there ever any i mean, is there ever any justification clearly not to break the law , but a lot of break the law, but a lot of people are saying this is just a symptom of a society that is really struggling at the moment. But in some ways, yes. But i think its also a symptom of the fact shoplifting has become fact that shoplifting has become all but decriminalised in this country. Officers country. We know Police Officers go country. We know Police Officers 9 country. We know Police Officers go , security guards let go after it, security guards let them go. No one in the community them go. No one in the Community Says anything either because they dont want to get involved and risk being stabbed or something or the worst. So really, we have got to we dont want to get to a yes, a San Francisco state where theyve basically decriminalised any theft under 500 or Something Like that. So people are literally going into shops literally just going into shops and. And we are seeing and looting. And we are seeing that oxford street, for that on oxford street, for example, francisco. Example, in San Francisco. Into shops with theyre going into shops with a calculator working out that theyve £400, 400 of theyve got £400, 400 worth of stuff in trolley and stuff in their trolley and walking out with because they walking out with it because they know wont prosecuted. Know they wont be prosecuted. Another are another thing is that stores are because of the cost of living crisis and the development of Technology Less technology theyre having less and less and so you can and less staff. And so you can have a trolley full of shopping in youve just got in tesco and youve just got a Self Service Tool and you think, well, im very honest, but how many people just not many other people are just not swiping things . Its sort of its a weird sort of dichotomy because ive witnessed shop for the first time a shop there for the first time a few times in the last few years. I dont remember ever seeing it in and yet at the same in my youth. And yet at the same time, ive also had the situation which ive talked about the program before when about on the program before when ive to one of these ive had to go to one of these self Service Checkouts a shop self Service Checkouts in a shop and all buzzers have and then all the buzzers have gone tried to walk gone off as ive tried to walk out and ive been made to feel like criminal for the first like a criminal for the first time life. And of course, time in my life. And of course, ihadnt time in my life. And of course, i hadnt stolen anything. Its just there no staff just because there were no staff and computer systems. Just because there were no staff ardoesnt computer systems. Just because there were no staff ardoesnt always nputer systems. Just because there were no staff ardoesnt always work. Systems. Just because there were no staff ardoesnt always work. Syzitsfs. It doesnt always work. So its this weird combination of, yes, youre happen more, youre seeing it happen more, but also getting ordinary but youre also getting ordinary people honest made people made honest people made to criminals. Yeah it to feel like criminals. Yeah it just makes the whole experience unpleasant. I seeing a very i remember seeing a very well to do looking woman just walk with her bag walk out with her shopping bag and paid for it. And she hadnt paid for it. The well to do ones. Its the well to do ones. Youve got to watch. This is where to you is where theyre off to you is about stop. About oh, stop. Yeah. Was isabel. Yeah. It was isabel. Yeah. It was isabel. Was it . What . Done it. Emily, can we talk about this . This has caught my eye. 17in the caught my eye. Page 17in the times. The one hand, times. But on the one hand, were our were being told that our literacy levels world literacy levels are world breaking, or certainly the best in this is what i think. In europe. This is what i think. Gillian keegan, woman the Gillian Keegan, woman of the houn Gillian Keegan, woman of the hour, recently. Hour, has said recently. And yet authors saying authors are saying that childrens interest books childrens interest in books have low, which is have hit a record low, which is which a tragedy. Yeah. Which is a tragedy. Yeah. The National Literacy Literacy Trust found out Literacy Trust has found out that of those aged that about half of those aged 8 to 18 do not enjoy reading in their spare time. Childrens enjoyment low enjoyment fallen to a record low this year, only 43 of children say they enjoy reading. This is hardly surprising, isnt say they enjoy reading. This is hardly surprising , isnt it . Say they enjoy reading. This is hardly surprising, isnt it . Is it in the in the world of social media, tiktok video games, tv, everything on your phone. And the problem is, is that probably most parents are also addicted to phones. So how can you to their phones. So how can you suggest reading to your child when youre there on your phone constantly instagram constantly looking at instagram just point out, you know, just to point out, you know, sometimes often i am guilty of looking at my phone my looking at my phone and my kids see it. Looking at my phone and my kids see but if im reading on my but if im reading on my kindle, that just looks like im on a screen and im on a screen as well. And im trying to say to them, no, mommys reading a book on book. Look, that Old Fashioned thing you have to get the paper back out. Yeah, think its yeah, i think its interesting. I also think this is obviously depressing, but i think children, think a lot of children, particularly a previous particularly even in a previous non internet, non digital era, would said they dont would have said they dont like reading. You come to it reading. And then you come to it maybe in life. Also, maybe later in life. And also, as you a lot of these as you said, a lot of these children, they might not consider reading actually consider reading when actually theyre their ipad. Theyre looking at their ipad. Think sometimes people no, i think sometimes people read theyre read the most when theyre a child. Its only going to get child. So its only going to get worse as they older. And worse as they get older. And have responsibilities, they have more responsibilities, they might up their might pick it up in their retirement, doesnt retirement, but that doesnt help with literacy this age help with literacy at this age and you know, and creativity. And, you know, knowing so knowing words, its so important. Vocabulary, vocabulary. You vocabulary. So important. You dont tiktok. Dont learn it on tiktok. But, you know, my son no, but, you know, my son absolutely loves an audible story and saves a can story and saves me a job we can stick the audible on. Dont stick the audible on. I dont have read bedtime have to read him a bedtime story, which sounds awful, but they get all the they still get all the vocabulary, the benefits vocabulary, all the benefits of that. Know, is that. But then, you know, is that. But then, you know, is that a substitute for that actually a substitute for them reading a book . Probably not. Not for spelling. Things that, spelling. And things like that, but its better than nothing. Better than screen. Its better than a screen. Its better than a screen. Than their yeah. Better than their imagination playing imagination is playing beautifully imagination is playing beautifullcan we talk about cuz andy, can we talk about cuz queer festival. This is in the times three and queer times page three and four. Queer people, plants and fungi. People, plants and fungi. Yeah. And so they have announced a festival called the queer people, plants and fungi festival, which is going to last a month and its going to explore. Its going to take us away from the traditional binary nofions away from the traditional binary notions male and female notions of male and female looking at plant life. And im a little bit a whole month on this i well, hold that thought. Well, hold that thought. Well, hold that thought. We may have time to come back to it. But i have interject to it. But i have to interject because have the schools because we now have the schools minister nick gibb, joining us a very good morning to you. Thanks for time. Look, just for your time. Um, look, just looking at all the papers looking across at all the papers this morning, very good morning to it was a tough day to you. Look it was a tough day for your boss, for Gillian Keegan yesterday. The papers keegan yesterday. The papers pretty brutal this morning, including a number your including a number of your colleagues in the conservative party. The telegraph this morning quoting that this instance shows shes not fit to stay in cabinet and weve spoken to labour this morning who say it was a dereliction of duty to say it wasnt her job to keep the schools safe. If well, look , her comments were well, look, her comments were off the cuff. She didnt know off the cuff. She didnt know the cameras were rolling. And shes apologised for the language. She used. She was frustrated by the fact that the department for education and the Civil Servants have been working very hard in terms of dealing with race issue. Weve been very proactive in dealing with rack since 2018. Weve issued very detailed guidance to responsible bodies, and these are the bodies that are legally responsible for School Buildings , which are the School Buildings, which are the local authorities , the academy local authorities, the Academy Trusts diocese , but we provide trusts diocese, but we provide them with the best advice based on the Technical Advice that we get about how to identify and monitor racks. So weve been monitor racks. So weve been doing that since 2018 and weve updated that guidance over the years. In march last year we wrote wrote to all responsible bodies asking them to tell us because we wanted to know centrally more about how they were handling the race issue, to tell us if they could, whether to confirm whether they think they have rack or not. And the vast majority confirmed that they do not have rack in our schools where they suspected they might be sent in. Surveyors since march 2022 to identify whether they have and to assess whether they have and to assess whether it was in a critical condition. And thats the work that has been happening in a very proactive way. And then very proactive way. And then over the summer, a new evidence emerged from two particular examples. One, as late as last examples. One, as late as last week , where rack in a school week, where rack in a school that had been identified as non critical actually became unsafe. And as a consequence of that evidence, we took the very difficult decision last week to close to take those buildings that have racked out of use in 156 schools out of 22,500. I mean, some people listening to that might be surprised to hear you describe your behaviour or your actions as being proactive. And this isnt my criticism. This is the chief of the spending watchdog, the National Audit office, who has come out and actually were and said, actually what were seeing consequence a seeing is the consequence of a sticking plaster approach to School Maintenance buildings School Maintenance of buildings. Well we take any report from the National Audit office extremely seriously. This was an op ed article, and i dont agree with what the comments we are spending £1. 8 billion a year on maintaining and improving School Buildings, £15 billion just since 2015. Well, hes the chief of the spending watchdog, very independent body. So, i mean , people at home so, i mean, people at home can decide whether to take your word on this or his word in all of this. But a lot of people will be thinking very seriously , you taking it very , are you taking it very seriously . Right, too. Seriously . And quite right, too. And to ask you, because and i wanted to ask you, because you you know, you mentioned that, you know, Gillian Keegan has apologised for language, but for her use of language, but i noficed for her use of language, but i noticed she didnt apologise for complaining people complaining about other people sitting dot, dot. Sitting on their dot, dot, dot. In other words, backsides. Was she referring to you . Who was that criticism levelled no that criticism levelled at . No no it wasnt. No it wasnt. She she was frustrated by the fact that in march 2022 weve sent out questionnaires to all responsible bodies responsible for the 22,000 schools and the 64,000 School Buildings. Weve had. 95 of those returned. And since march last year, the schools shes frustrated with, we then send in surveyors. But we then send in surveyors. But there are 5 of not returned them. Weve sent them. Weve chased several times since march 2022. And we sent another letter , another deadline of this for friday those returns to come in. And they are now coming in as a consequence of that of the Media Coverage of this issue. And that final chase and that deadline. Final chase and that deadline. And wonder, you know, the and i wonder, you know, the Prime Minister and all this yesterday coming saying yesterday coming out and saying this fault this is actually not my fault and hearing quotes and yet were hearing quotes from people in the from senior people in the department for education saying that sunak actually that rishi sunak actually reduced funding for repairs on 300 schools to 100 and then halve that again to 50. And that was whilst he was chancellor of the exchequer between 2020 and 2021. So is it right that hes dodging any responsibility in all of this . All of this . Look, those facts are just simply not true. Weve been building or refurbishing 50 schools a year from the beginning when we came into office right through our period in power and so we had this the Priority School Building Programme for the first five years, we built and refurbished 260 schools, and then the school , the Priority School Building Programme , too, which was programme, too, which was another 272 schools. And one of the first things that rishi did as chief chancellor was set up. The school reBuilding Programme. 500 schools to be built, rebuilt or refurbished between 2020 and 2030. Now, of course, we always put in bids for more. 2030. Now, of course, we always put in bids for more. Thats put in bids for more. Thats what all spending departments do. But weve kept that 50 a year Building Programme right through covid. Dont forget. And he was covid. Dont forget. And he was making difficult decisions. We making difficult decisions. We were spending, this is 2020, 20, 21. We were spending £450 billion on the furlough scheme on protecting businesses during lockdown during covid. We were a world leader in tackling the challenges of covid, and despite all that expenditure , we were all that expenditure, we were still continuing with this big school reBuilding Programme of 500 schools to be rebuilt or furbished between 2020 and 2030. Nick gibb were out of time there. Minister of state for schools and education. Thank you very much indeed for your time this morning. Heres your Weather Forecast. Alex burkill with that looks like things are heating up. Box boilers, proud sponsors of weather on. Gb news. Of weather on. Gb news. Hello. Very good morning to you. There is a little bit of mist and fog to watch out for first thing this morning. But once that clears, therell be plenty of hot sunshine around, although out for some although watch out for some strong south west strong winds in the south west taking a look the details and taking a look at the details and yes, any mist and fog yes, once any mist and fog clears away, be plenty clears away, therell be plenty of sunshine across the bulk of the perhaps the uk. The exception perhaps being north scotland being the far north of scotland where front lingering where there is a front lingering here, bringing a bit of cloud and perhaps a few spots of drizzly rain as well. Otherwise lots sunshine. Watch for lots of sunshine. Watch out for some strong, winds in some strong, blustery winds in the they will the south west. Now they will take the edge off the temperatures little but temperatures a little bit, but for its going be for many, its going to be a little bit hotter than it was yesterday. Around yesterday. Highs around 31 celsius towards south east celsius towards the south east later on today, we are going to see low cloud drifting in see some low cloud drifting in from the north so some from the north sea. So some higher, some threat higher, some sea threat affecting eastern affecting parts of eastern scotland and eastern North Eastern england. Low clouds, some murky conditions here further south and west, clearer skies. But i am expecting some mist and fog patches to develop and temperatures, again, not dropping a huge amount. So its likely to be another relatively warm for most of us as we warm night for most of us as we go through wednesday itself. A slow, murky start then for some eastern North Eastern parts. But eastern North Eastern parts. But that low cloud should gradually burn back towards the coast. For most, the exception, perhaps around eastern parts of scotland. I am expecting the low cloud to linger. Well into cloud here to linger. Well into the otherwise yes, it the afternoon. Otherwise yes, it may be a touch cloudier than some recent but plenty of some recent days, but plenty of sunshine to be had and temperatures could even temperatures could be even higher around higher still with highs around 32 celsius. 32 celsius. Looks like things are heating up. Boxed boilers proud sponsors up. Boxed boilers proud sponsors of weather on. Gb news. Of weather on. Gb news. Stay with us. Well have the latest for you on the School Concrete crisis as the education secretary is fighting for her job. We heard from the government in the last few minutes that had had minutes there that they had had record in schools and record investment in schools and they accept there they didnt accept that there were faults on their behalf were any faults on their behalf really there. You tell me really there. So you tell me what you make of that interview with nick gibb there. Well also be discussing lots of other things, Prince Andrew be discussing lots of other thin secret Prince Andrew be discussing lots of other thin secret files, Prince Andrew be discussing lots of other thin secret files, which� andrew be discussing lots of other thin secret files, which wontew and secret files, which wont come to light until hed reached 105. Why all the secrecy . Well 105. Why all the secrecy . Well be speaking to the royal author who submitted the foi about that just after 20 past and asian hornets beware. Hornets beware. After this away. The education secretary is away. The education secretary is fighting for survival as thousands of children are left in limbo by the concrete crisis. Hello there, 9 00 is the time. Good to have you on board. Tuesday, 5th of september. Youre tuned into breakfast on gb news with eamonn and isabel. Heres whats leading the news this morning. Gillian keegan is fighting to keep her cabinet position this morning after expletive and after using an expletive and claiming she was doing a good job was being job while unaware she was being recorded. Recorded. Well, it comes as schools across the country are closed, including this one behind me. Thats had its start of term delayed after its building was deemed unsafe. Safe. Ill have deemed unsafe. Safe. Ill have the latest leader of the opposition, keir starmer, has said he has the strongest possible players on the pitch following a reshuffle aimed at preparing labour for government. Five of his new top team were special advisers under tony blair, the Police Federation of Northern Ireland has called for a full investigation into the actions of simon byrne after he resigned as chief constable of the Police Service of Northern Ireland. And the latest Weather Forecast because this week is set to be a hotter. Heres alex. Hello. A little bit of mist hello. A little bit of mist and fog around. First thing this morning, otherwise plenty of morning, but otherwise plenty of sunshine and temperatures rising even further as we go through the week. Ill have more later. In the education secretary, Gillian Keegan is fighting to keep her cabinet position after she apologised for using an expletive while claiming she was doing a good job. Though unaware that she was being still recorded on camera. Well, shes been under fire for over the past 24 hours now for over the past 24 hours now for being on holiday as more evidence of unsafe concrete came to light. Now the National Audit office has accused the government of using a sticking plaster approach to thousands of children currently unable to return to lessons as well. Lets speak to our national reporter, ellie costello, whos outside Buckhurst Hill community Primary School. Normally at this Primary School. Normally at this time of day, it would be a busy, bustling scene behind you. Children being dropped by children being dropped off by their parents, deathly quiet behind. Behind you. Deathly quiet, indeed , izzy. Deathly quiet, indeed, izzy. Thats because the children are on an extended summer break and the start of term has been delayed. Its due to start here at Buckhurst Hill community Primary School on monday. Its after the building was deemed unsafe due to rak concrete. But unsafe due to rak concrete. But i must say, for a building thats been deemed unsafe, you might be able to make out behind me the car park behind me is absolutely packed full. As far as we understand it, the teachers have still come in to work. They were all here before 9 am. Our understanding is they are working very, very hard to come up with alternate native teaching arrangements for the children from monday. Its not children from monday. Its not clear yet how thats going to work. There could be demountable buildings put up. They could be looking to be taught elsewhere. We know that up and down the country, some schools that have been deemed unsafe due to this country, some schools that have beerconcretei unsafe due to this country, some schools that have beerconcrete are safe due to this country, some schools that have beerconcrete are looking to this country, some schools that have beerconcrete are looking at this rak concrete are looking at hotel halls or other sorts of buildings that they can use to teach their pupils. Its been a real scramble for parents and for teachers who have had to find out since last thursday that their buildings are unsafe and children cannot be taught in those schools in essex. This is those schools in essex. This is going to be one of the counties struck hardest by this crisis. Its understood that 65 schools of the 156 schools that have been highlighted so far to have racked concrete are in the county of essex. Thats 1 in 3 schools in one county alone. So schools in one county alone. So not an ideal start of term for these children. And for those parents, but also not an ideal start to parliament after that long summer for break Gillian Keegan, the education secretary , its after she was caught on microphone yesterday criticising her colleagues. Lets have a little listen to what she had to say. Said thank you very much. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Down just a few just come out. Does anyone ever say, you know what, youve done a good job because everyone else has sat on there and done nothing . Sat on there and done nothing . No. No signs of that. No. No. No signs of that. No. So it could be a little bit awkward this morning. Gillian keegan will face her cabinet colleagues for the first time at their first Cabinet Meeting this morning. After those comments. Morning. After those comments. She has apologised, though , she has apologised, though, saying that she didnt aim those comments at anyone in particular. She just very frustrated by the situation and as far as we understand it, rishi sunak has accepted that apology and is happy for her to continue as education secretary. But of course they will be aware of the optics of that comment. They will be aware that this is a very emotive issue for parents up and down the country. And the up and down the country. And the criticism doesnt stop there of Gillian Keegan. Shes also been criticised for taking a holiday when that crisis was unfolding. She was in spain, but shes shes responded to that criticism as well, saying that she was taking meetings while she was taking meetings while she was taking meetings while she was in spain and returned as soon as she was needed. But of course , izzy and eamonn, course, izzy and eamonn, questions do remain, dont they, as to when the government exactly knew about this, when did. Gillian keegan exactly know about this . When did she find out how serious it was . How long is this going to take to fix and when will we have that final list of how many schools and buildings across the country have been affected by this . Okay, ellie, thank you. And of course, how much is all going to cost that nightmare . Million dollar question. Dollar question. Keir starmer has said he has the strongest possible players on following his on the pitch following his reshuffle yesterday, which he hopes will prepare labour for government. Government. But five of his new top team were special advisers under tony blair. Lets get the views of our Political Editor christopher. A hope in all of this joins us from westminster this morning. Look, seems as though look, it seems as though certainly party to be certainly the party seems to be moving bit more towards the moving a bit more towards the right, towards the Centre Ground. And question whether. And the question is whether or not sort dangerous not thats a sort of dangerous position for rishi sunak position really for rishi sunak and. And his team. Well, thats right. Theyre doing their best, arent they, to try and appeal to what you might describe as middle england. Five of spads, thats a visor level. People from the blair government now back in the shadow cabinet, people like pat mcfadden , of course, was mcfadden, of course, who was a key person for blair. He now is, i would think, the most the most important person never important person youll never heard charge of heard of. Hes in charge of national he holds the national strategy. He holds the pen all big announcements. Pen on all big announcements. Theyre not going increase theyre not going to increase income told theyre not going to increase inc0|to told theyre not going to increase inc0|to the told theyre not going to increase inc0|to the mirror told theyre not going to increase inc0|to the mirror yesterday. I that to the mirror yesterday. I think in many ways we are looking now at a group people looking now at a group of people who think power is in their who think that power is in their grasp, what theyre grasp, and thats what theyre theyre meanwhile, theyre aiming for. Meanwhile, theyre aiming for. Meanwhile, the meeting also this the tories are meeting also this morning their cabinet in morning with their cabinet in some the gillian some disarray with the Gillian Keegan issue carrying on. I think there some some good think there is some some good news the cabinet may told news the cabinet may be told there. That the there. I understand that the full all these schools full list of all these schools affected 156 will be out tomorrow friday the tomorrow and by friday the remaining 10 of the 15,000 schools built between 1950 and 1990 who may have this aerated concrete will respond to the department. So it may be we are seeing the beginning of the end, or at least the beginning of nearly the end of this of this issue on on that Cabinet Reshuffle of sir keir starmer. And there was lots of focus on what was going to go on with Angela Rayner. Apparently it was fairly amicable, shes been fairly amicable, but shes been given of longer given sort of a longer title this time sort of very much this time and sort of very much entrenched position. But interesting to see some of the right this morning. Right wing press this morning. Im the spectator im talking about the spectator and specifically and Fraser Nelson specifically sticking up for Jonathan Ashworth, been demoted, ashworth, whos been demoted, but suppose is deemed perhaps, but i suppose is deemed perhaps, you know, left of the party. He they said that he it was alarming to see him being demoted. Demoted. Yeah. Its interesting isnt it, because his ideas on work and pensions, some of them have been lifted wholesale by by mel stride, his opposite number in the cabinet and it is seen to be a bit unfair. And also lisa nandy. I think these are both two very strong media performers. Theyre often gb performers. Theyre often on gb news have been on news or they have been on gb news or they have been on gb news before. They talk to a to an audience who who they need to convince support them for convince to support them for labour power. Angela labour to win power. Angela rayner have rayner of course shell have a platform next week the trade platform next week at the trade union thats big union congress. Thats a big meeting. And how that goes meeting. And, and how that goes and how the unions and who can be more left wing maybe be somewhat more left wing maybe than shadow cabinet nowadays than the shadow cabinet nowadays and respond this and how they respond to this reshuffle quite reshuffle will be quite interesting right. Interesting right. Thank you very much, christopher. Appreciate it. Christopher. Appreciate it. Thank you. Thank you very much indeed. At half past nine this morning, britains newsroom, Andrew Pearson , newsroom, Andrew Pearson, Beverley Turner, who have come into the studio to give you a little preview. Oh, sorry. All right. Or Beverley Turner on his way here to give you a bit of preview. Sneak preview bev, of what you guys are delving into today i were going to be talking more about this schools issue. We feel like we really want to understand does this mean we feel like we really want to uryou;tand does this mean we feel like we really want to uryou ared does this mean we feel like we really want to uryou are the does this mean we feel like we really want to uryou are the head es this mean we feel like we really want to uryou are the head of this mean we feel like we really want to uryou are the head of ads mean we feel like we really want to uryou are the head of a schooln if you are the head of a school and mean that in terms of will and i mean that in terms of will and i mean that in terms of will a literally fall in . Will a a wall literally fall in . Will a roof fall in . I think its what parents want to know. How dangerous to send kids to dangerous is it to send kids to school if theyre any of school if theyre in any of these schools this morning . So were at were going to be looking at that. Were going to that. Were also were going to be having weve got nigel nelson and coming do and tony buxton coming in to do the papers. An the papers. Weve got an interesting interview with the guy who is from the vaping industries, france industries, because france are about disposable vapes about to ban disposable vapes and who has and as anybody knows, who has a teenager their life, this is teenager in their life, this is an absolute scourge on that generation in of their generation in terms of their health. The addictions are enormous to the vapes at the moment and theyre getting away with it largely because they have these Little Things that with it largely because they hav thats right. Theyre not coming at it from a health point of view. Theyre coming at it from a from an environmental point of view, which is true because you you know, beaches because if you you know, beaches this have seen this summer, you will have seen them across beaches in them strewn across beaches in them strewn across beaches in the and getting, you know , the uk and getting, you know, washed sea, which washed away into the sea, which is bad actually. And is really bad actually. And weve got ellie costello. Youve been talking this been talking to ellie this morning of the schools, morning at one of the schools, and still feel like want to and i still feel like i want to hear from families who might be affected by these school closures. E hear the closures. Hear the prime well, to hear the Prime Minister yesterday saying, dont worry, majority of schools worry, the majority of schools are this. Sorry, are unaffected by this. Sorry, what . So what . Thats not okay. So theres of kids that theres a minority of kids that could ceiling fallen on could have the ceiling fallen on them and their child could die when theyre at school. And youre saying, worry. Youre saying, dont worry. Yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And course, the blame and of course, its the blame game looking game were going to be looking at Gillian Keegan losing it yesterday interview, at Gillian Keegan losing it yesterisy interview, at Gillian Keegan losing it yesteris sort interview, at Gillian Keegan losing it yesteris sort of interview, at Gillian Keegan losing it yesteris sort of hardlyyiew, which is sort of hardly surprise. Feel under surprise. She must feel under a lot of pressure. But frank, nobodys be queuing up nobodys going to be queuing up to be thanking politicians at the whove families to be thanking politicians at the these whove families to be thanking politicians at the these sortsove families to be thanking politicians at the these sorts ofe families to be thanking politicians at the these sorts of situations. Ies into these sorts of situations. You know what i would interpret as her saying not interpret that as her saying not so her for it, but so much thank her for it, but dont her dont blame for her it. And shes been in the and shes only been in the job ten months and i think she she has a bit of attitude about things and yeah, i quite i quite enjoy you think shed enjoy it. Do you think shed lose job over it . Lose her job over it . No, no, no. Weve all said words with mike so. Well i certainly havent. Well i certainly havent. Any fingers im not pointing any fingers eamonn but weve all been there and shows to some and you know, it shows to some extent. Quite like it when you extent. I quite like it when you see like this because it see mps like this because it shows are. Shows how human they are. Theyre a huge amount of theyre under a huge amount of pressure well. But thought pressure as well. But i thought it sort of petty it was the sort of petty grievance like, does nobody, nobody to congratulate nobody want to congratulate me for no, thats for working hard . No, thats what paid to do. Yeah. What youre paid to do. Yeah. Okay us. Thank you. Okay by us. Thank you. Prince secret papers. Prince andrew. Secret papers. Should they be revealed. And were heatwave. A were having a heatwave. A tropical heatwave . Do you not tropical heatwave . Do you not know that one either . The temperatures rising. The temperatures rising. It isnt surprising. Were having after this got this this great story thats come out today that documents this relating to the working life trips taken by Prince Andrew. Cant be published. Right. Theres theyve been locked down, put under lock and key for another 30 years. Yes. And that means they yes. And that means they wont be released in his lifetime. Hed be 105, i think, before the public could cast their eyes over. Its not impossible, but it could happen. And also follows all from a and it also follows all from a freedom of information request that was made by the royal author andrew loney. And as author andrew loney. And as eamonn is all eamonn was saying, this is all about business journeys about the business journeys undertaken duke of york undertaken by the duke of york between 2001 and 2011. Andrew joins us now. Andrew loney joins us now. Andrew, there you are. Youre going. Good to see you. Youre going. Good to see you. Youre youre another royal youre researching another royal book there. And i mean, this stuffs vital for you. And what do you think the great fear is . I mean, if i was in andrews position , i think i would be position, i think i would be saying this might just hes lost everything. You sort of think everything. You sort of think this might have a chance of showing him in a half decent light maybe, or am i being overly optimistic. Overly optimistic. Well, the 105 years after their birth is a blanket restriction on all the royals. So, for example, we cant look at anything to do with the queen until 2031. But i agree. Its until 2031. But i agree. Its crazy. I actually approached him and offered to, you know, interview him, interview some of his friends in order to help him shape the narrative. He refused to do that. And in fact , asked to do that. And in fact, asked no one to talk to me for my book. So no one to talk to me for my book. So clearly, the files are important, but weve also got other problems. The department of and the Foreign Office of trade and the Foreign Office claim they cannot identify any papers to his time as papers relating to his time as trade envoy and my feeling is this job was done not as a member of the royal family, but as a member of the government. In effect promoting British Trade and there have been lots of questions raised and more coming up in my research about how far he was in some ways supporting his own interests rather than promoting british interests. But there are a interests. But there are a number of people on these trade delegations who , for example, delegations who, for example, lent him money, paid off debts. And i think were entitled in a mature democracy to know how our pubuc mature democracy to know how our public figures behave. Andrew andrew im not im not im not pointing any fingers at Prince Andrew here. But the technique that people like you need and use has to be essential. Im watching a documentary on sky documentary at the moment. Its a six parter on king juan carlos. The first of spain, who was very fond of foreign business trips and my goodness me, the spanish public were completely in the dark as to the corruption in that he was allowed to get away with. Allowed to get away with. Yes. And i think its very important for the trust in the institution is that we do have this transparency. If theres nothing to hide, there should be nothing to hide, there should be no problem about this material being released. But i cant say being released. But i cant say i blame him. Its a culture of secrecy in whitehall and rules. So, for example , the royal so, for example, the royal family exempted from the freedom of information act and there is no real Public Interest test. And certainly from my experience that will allow exemptions to be to be looked at and not used. So i think with the new reign, this is an opportunity to perhaps reset the way we deal with royal secrecy. Weve had problems in secrecy. Weve had problems in the past. The royals even burning their papers. Queen mums papers were burnt by Princess Margaret and this is our history, which is being destroyed. Yeah, but i mean, theyre not like normal people. They write like normal people. They write letters and things. I mean, we dont, i dont write letters to isabel this afternoon. I mean, ill send and itll be ill send a text and itll be deleted or ill change phones or , or whatever, whatever. But does this mean, andrew, this is the end of any sort of book that you were planning to do . Or are there different ways to skin a cat . Cat . Well, there are different ways to skin a cat. I mean, ive talked to over 100 people now, so theres going to be plenty in the book. But i would just i work with documents. I would like to be able to back up some of the material with documentation. Even, for documentation. But even, for example, parachute training example, his parachute training in been closed on the in 1978 has been closed on the grounds of health and safety Law Enforcement and national security. So its about a sort of an attitude which needs to change in government because otherwise i think were no worse than a Banana Republic would. Than a Banana Republic would. Uncovering sort of hidden documents. Youve written a book about mountbatten, and youre persistent. Certainly and i suppose youd argue that in the case of Prince Andrew, hes not a working member of the royal family. Now so whos paying for his security . We still paying for that as taxpayers. We have a right to know that, dont we . And this idea that these freedom of information requests arent applicable family applicable to the royal family well, change . Well, should that change . Well, i think there should that exemption should be looked at. Again but, yes, i mean, i think there are legitimate questions about security. Of questions about security. Of course, they will never either confirm or deny, even though we know that he has security, we just dont know whos paying for it. And i believe that as hes a non working royal, it should be paid for by the king or indeed by himself. Paid for by the king or indeed by himself. Hes got paid for by the king or indeed by himself. Hes got plenty of by himself. Hes got plenty of money. He pleads poverty , but money. He pleads poverty, but theres plenty of money there. And you know, maybe ironically, maybe ironically, andrew, the scarce city of royal information feeds this huge appetite the country has, you look at channel 4 and channel five, particularly , and there is five, particularly, and there is not a weekend goes past that. There isnt two, three, four or a royal night, as it may well be, featuring some member of the of the royal family well, i mean, exactly. And well, i mean, exactly. And its always the same five people who are interviewed, and that suits the royal family theres no proper scrutiny. People speculate and this is one of the problems, i think, with an absence of proper transparency , absence of proper transparency, that you get a speculation that you just get a speculation and all sorts of fantasists who move into this area, not necessarily on channel five, but elsewhere. A lot of books that are written and indeed the press cuttings ive seen bear no relation to the truth whatsoever. And i think there are important figures and are entitled to proper studies by serious historian is its interesting sort of sorry, finish your point. Finish your point. Yeah. And i was just i was just going to say, you know, on the one hand, youve got prince harry who wont stop spilling the beans and hes had all of his security taken away. On the his security taken away. On the other hand, youve got all the secrecy around Prince Andrew and, allegations of and, you know, allegations of misbehaviour , which always misbehaviour, which he always denied, payout to denied, but a big payout to virginia as we know and virginia giuffre, as we know and his security possibly still being paid by us is a weird being paid for by us is a weird sort dichotomy. There sort of dichotomy. There well, also, i mean , prince well, also, i mean, prince harry can spill family secrets from a few months ago. And weve had , for example, the king had, for example, the king collaborating with with books with dimbleby. We have with jonathan dimbleby. We have briefings from the palace and yet we get historians cant look at documents are 100 years at documents that are 100 years old. Its absurd. Old. Its absurd. Yeah. Wow. Yeah. Wow. So when should we expect to see the fruit of your labours . See the fruit of your labours . Well, its taking a bit longer with these obstacles, but ihope longer with these obstacles, but i hope sometime next year. So i hope that you may have me back and i may have something more to tell you. Lets that. Wed love to lets do that. Wed love to have you in to us first. Thats a deal. Well to you any day. Well talk to you any day. And about many, royal and about many, many royal subjects. So for the moment today, we say adios to you. Thank you very much indeed. Thank you very much indeed. Thank you very much indeed. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. I was just going to say this, juan carlos film on. I want to watch it. Youve been telling me about sky documentaries. What he got up to. Shocking. Yeah shocking. Was taken for granted . I what was taken for granted . I mean, was a man of little mean, he was a man of little means, was installed as a means, and he was installed as a sort of puppet king. And then he made billions and billions through trade trips. And his poor wife having to put up with all the misdemeanours she anyway, she had to. Weve had a good time this morning. We you have, too, morning. We hope you have, too, and hope tune back in and we hope youll tune back in to us at 6 00 tomorrow to join us at 6 00 tomorrow morning. Up though, morning. Up next, though, britains newsroom. Britains newsroom. To tell you that heres bev to tell you that warm feeling inside from boxt boilers. Proud sponsors of weather on. Gb news. Hello. Very good morning to you. There is a little bit of mist and fog to watch out for first thing this morning. But once that clears, therell be plenty of hot sunshine around, although watch out some although watch out for some strong the south west. Strong winds in the south west. Taking a look at the details. And once any mist and fog and yes, once any mist and fog clears therell plenty clears away, therell be plenty of across the bulk of of sunshine across the bulk of the uk. The exception perhaps being north of scotland being the far north of scotland where is a front lingering where there is a front lingering here, a bit of cloud here, bringing a bit of cloud and a few of and perhaps a few spots of drizzly rain as well. Otherwise, drizzly rain as well. Otherwise, lots sunshine. Out for lots of sunshine. Watch out for some strong, blustery winds in the they will the south west. Now they will take the edge off the temperatures little bit, but temperatures a little bit, but for its going be for many, its going to be a little hotter than it was little bit hotter than it was yesterday. Highs around 31 celsius south east celsius towards the south east later today , we going to later on today, we are going to see cloud drifting in see some low cloud drifting in from north sea. So some ha from the north sea. So some ha some sea fret affecting parts of eastern scotland and eastern North Eastern england. Low clouds, some murky conditions here for further south and west. Clearer skies. But here for further south and west. Clearer skies. But i am expecting some mist and fog patches develop and patches to develop and temperatures again, not dropping a huge amount. So its likely to a huge amount. So its likely to be relatively warm night be another relatively warm night for of us as we go through for most of us as we go through wednesday itself. A slow , murky wednesday itself. A slow, murky start then for some eastern North Eastern parts. But that low gradually burn low cloud should gradually burn back coast for most back towards the coast for most the exception, perhaps around eastern of scotland. I am eastern parts of scotland. I am expecting the low cloud here to unger expecting the low cloud here to linger well into the afternoon. Linger well into the afternoon. Otherwise, yes, it may be a touch cloudier than some recent days, but plenty sunshine to days, but plenty of sunshine to be and temperatures could be be had and temperatures could be even highs even higher still with highs around 32 celsius. That warm feeling inside from boxt boilers, proud sponsors of weather on. Gb news gillian weather on. Gb news Gillian Keegan is in trouble for getting caught out in the interview yesterday when the cameras were still rolling. Im not sure ethically whether that was the right thing for the itv to do to release that. I think it was, if you remember the big row gordon brown got into over gillian, that wasnt wasnt that wasnt gillian wasnt bigoted. That bigoted. Gillian duffy that bigoted. Gillian duffy that bigoted woman in rochdale. Yeah, but problem is still but the big problem is still thousands schools potentially but the big problem is still thousthes schools potentially but the big problem is still thousthe same hools potentially but the big problem is still thousthe same concrete tentially but the big problem is still thousthe same concrete problem have the same concrete problem and know which and parents dont know which ones they are. Yeah, you are one of those yeah, if you are one of those people, get in touch with people, please get in touch with us morning. Gb views at gb us this morning. Gb views at gb news. Com we morning. Its 930 on tuesday, the 5th of september. This is britains newsroom on gb news with Andrew Pierce and bev turner potty mouth Gillian Keegan. Keegan. Ian, the education secretary is fighting to keep her job after this interview, she said, thank you very much. Thank you. Thank you. Down just a few miles. Does anyone ever say , you does anyone ever say, you know what, youve done a good job because everyone else has sat on there and done nothing . No, no signs of er no secretary of state . No. You just say youve done a good job because youre blooming well, havent sticking plaster approach. Thats what the spending watchdog has called the spending watchdog has called the to the the governments response to the concrete crisis. Were going to bnng concrete crisis. Were going to bring all latest. Simon bring you all the latest. Simon byrne resigns. The Police Federation of Northern Ireland wants a full investigation into the actions of the former chief constable. Well let you know all the details of that. Details of that. And time to ban vapes. Thats the way france is heading as they plan to outlaw disposable vapes. Should we follow their lead same. Lead and do the same. I think the vapes are really interesting story. I do the french minister bringing this in, she says