The forecast. And i think if the forecast. And i think if youre anywhere between the midlands and the south, youre going to see an awful lot of rain today. So a very good morning, mrs. And kids are off to wales so brace yourselves. Im working here absolutely. Im working here absolutely. Well tell you more. Im anne diamond. Diamond. And im Martin Daubney. And diamond. Iisd im Martin Daubney. And diamond. Iis breakfast in daubney. And diamond. Iis breakfast on daubney. And diamond. Iis breakfast on gb bney. And diamond. Iis breakfast on gb newsand diamond. Iis breakfast on gb news. Nd this is breakfast on gb news. That means some of the papers are saying well find out more. Obviously, in detail in all weather. But obviously, in detail in all weather. But some places are going to see almost a months rain in a day. Yeah, its so predictable whats going on. We have a good week and then we have a terrible week. Welcome to britain. Our week and then we have a terrible weeinormal. Ne to britain. Our new normal. Yeah. And you just cant rely yeah. And you just cant rely on either. Yeah. And you just cant rely on either. You yeah. And you just cant rely on either. You just cant on it either. You just cant know when you wake up in the morning whether its to be morning whether its going to be a bad day weatherwise. A good or bad day weatherwise. I joking there i was joking out there a minute they were saying, minute ago. They were saying, well, least theres no chance well, at least theres no chance of there being a forest fire in wales. Weve struggled wales. I think weve struggled to. A barbecue. Yeah to. To light a barbecue. Yeah you really would at minute. You really would at the minute. Wouldnt want to go you wouldnt want to go outdoors, you . If you outdoors, would you . And if you do outdoors and you visit one do go outdoors and you visit one of these sunflower farms, apparently. Yeah, its reported in the that some of these in the times that some of these sunflower which invite sunflower farms which are invite people picture people in, have your picture taken in amongst all the sunflower. Theyve sunflower. Apparently theyve noļ¬ced sunflower. Apparently theyve noticed there growing noticed that there is a growing problem with people doing naked selfies amongst selfies in amongst the sunflowers and some of the other people, the families who go along say, you know, you can be walking through the sunflowers, taking pictures of your kids and suddenly you across suddenly you come across basically naked photoshoot. So basically a naked photoshoot. So some sunflower farms were some of the sunflower farms were put warning saying, you know, put up warning saying, you know, youre youre welcome to take photographs, dont go photographs, but please dont go topless naked. Photographs, but please dont go topyoure naked. Photographs, but please dont go top youre calling it a problem. Youre calling it a problem. Youre calling it a problem. Its, um, i dont know. Is it . Its a problem. But they quote one mum. Its quite funny. She says there we were doing photographs. She said her son happened upon a topless woman at the farm last week. She said you should have seen his face. He didnt know where to look. And they said he copped an eyeful. He copped . Yeah, said he he copped . Yeah, she said he copped eyeful after copped a right eyeful after stumbling a woman in only stumbling across a woman in only a thong. Its like a carry on movie made i think its made made real. I think its marvellous. Made made real. I think its ma yeah,js. Not . Yeah and how yeah, why not . Yeah and how about the lionesses hey, thats another great talking point because didnt do well . Because didnt we do well . I mean, wasnt it unbelievable . Mean, wasnt it unbelievable . Yeah. And i just want to know whether. I mean, youre into your football. Is this sunday coming with the lionesses up against the spanish World Cup Final. So we against the spanish World Cup Final. So we havent against the spanish World Cup Final. So we havent really been final. So we havent really been there since 66, have we, in a World Cup Final. Thats if you think that the lads and the ladies games are the same. Well, thats what i want to know. Is this as important as 1966 . I dont think it is. Why not . Because well, because if you look at the relative sporting standards , for relative sporting standards, for example, i think the england lionesses would struggle be lionesses would struggle to be any top flights in any of the top flights in britain. Fantastic. Good luck to you. But i dont think the two sports are on parity. Thats just me know that would be screamed a misogynist. Screamed at as a misogynist. Yeah, that would be well yeah, that would be because thats what used to because thats what they used to say ladies tennis. Yeah because thats what they used to say billie ladies tennis. Yeah because thats what they used to say billie jean s tennis. Yeah because thats what they used to say Billie Jean King nis. Yeah because thats what they used to say Billie Jean King provedh because thats what they used to say Billie Jean King proved it and Billie Jean King proved it wrong end. And you, i wrong in the end. And you, i mean. Right. Maybe the mean. Yes. All right. Maybe the lioness is up against one of one of our england team. Would they . How they do . But how well would they do . But thats not the point, is it . The point should the mans point is, why should the mans game be given much more fuss than the womans game . Gets a far bigger well, it gets a far bigger global audience, but its started later. Physicality its another big tall button. Course is will Prince William attend the final . Hes been widely criticised. If it was a blokes match, of course he would be there. Everybodys saying should he attend or not . Yeah, well i think he will. Yeah. I yeah, well i think he will. Yeah. I just i yeah, well i think he will. Yeah. Ijust i mean yeah, well i think he will. Yeah. I just i mean were not yeah. Ijust i mean were not being told one way or the other but it doesnt. Thats not the point. Mean i can imagine if point. I mean i can imagine if he was planning to go because he wanted to wait and see if theyd get to the final, then on the plans. Doesnt to plans. He doesnt want to necessarily announce plans necessarily announce the plans to i think to the world yet. Yeah, i think he turn up and the final debate. I think we can all agree on and that should we open the pubs this sunday morning, the kick off, 11 pubs off, of course, is 11 am. Pubs arent legally licenced to open until midday on a sunday. Should that changed . Until midday on a sunday. Should tha but changed . Until midday on a sunday. Should tha but the nged . Until midday on a sunday. Should tha but the pubs until midday on a sunday. Should tha but the pubs and clubs have but the pubs and clubs have to a really great way to to be a really great way to watch it. Dont you think . Because theyll have tellies watch it. Dont you think . Bectyoure eyll have tellies watch it. Dont you think . Bectyoure with have tellies watch it. Dont you think . Bectyoure with people tellies watch it. Dont you think . Bectyoure with people and. Lies and youre with people and i think they be allowed to open. But i agree on that. But i agree on that. I really do. I think thats really important. Kick really important. Whens kick off . 11 am. Oh, off . On sunday, 11 am. Oh, thats all right. You can watch us first. Yeah, just an hour before the normally open and get for an normally open and get it for an hour a quick job. Dont hour and have a quick job. Dont forget the japan world cup. When the routine, the pubs in britain routine, the open was open at breakfast time was fantastic. Really novel. Fantastic. It felt really novel. Brought together. And brought everyone together. And you a full with you can have a full english with a well thats right. A few beers. Well thats right. Its not just about the and its not just about the drinking. Its not just saying, can we start drinking early can we start drinking that early in the morning . Its about the camaraderie. Being with camaraderie. Its the being with other watch. Football other people to watch. Football is football just is magic. Yeah football is just a sport. Best enjoyed with your comrades, your mates, you comrades, with your mates, you know, place like know, in a communal place like that, shout without that, we can shout without scaring cat. Scaring the cat. Absolutely. If you absolutely. But if you remember and how amazing remember 1966 and how amazing that do you think this that was, do you think this sunday, coming sunday is as sunday, this coming sunday is as cool and as great and as momentous as 1966 . And if you dont think so, why not . Why isnt it . Its a its going to isnt it . Its a its going to be amazing. Yeah, its and its fair to say, you know, the lionesses if they win the European Championship and the world cup and if they even do it on penalties, i no i couldnt stand that, then theyd have done everything that mens team hasnt. Its under a huge, hasnt. So its under a huge, huge. Okay. So we want to hear from you. Please gb views at gb news. And have you ever taken a selfie in a sunflower field . Obviously we wont want to see it. If its a we dont want to see it if its naked because i dont think we can do that on a friday morning. But no, love morning. But but no, wed love to know whether youve been tempted. And the other big tempted. Yeah. And the other big talking point, i think again today news of this jab. Today is the news of this jab. Oh, yeah, that could defeat if youre defeat alcoholism youre almost defeat alcoholism. Its working trials at the. Its working in trials at the moment in monkeys , its an moment in monkeys, its an injection into the brain , but it injection into the brain, but it apparently stops the hit you get from alcohol and therefore just go to your alcohol without being dangerous by the sound of it. And in 90, 90 of cases, it just got rid of the cravings because the pleasure of taking alcohol was just eradicated from the brains pathways. It could be absolute game changer. Be an absolute game changer. Could be incredible. Yes, it could be incredible. Game could a game changer could make a difference National Game changer could make a differerservice, National Game changer could make a differerservice, toiational game changer could make a differerservice, to everything, health service, to everything, because is one of the because alcohol is one of the leading causes of just about everything wrong our society. Early and a lot society. early early deaths and a lot of this of course, in during this of course, kicks in during the but a huge story. The pandemic. But a huge story. Weve coming up into weve got loads coming up into the show. Its a packed show today. So to top story, shall we . News to our top story, shall we . News dont cash is dont kill Cash Campaign is already results. Already yielding results. Overnight, the treasury has announced plans to assure access to cash facilities guaranteeing cash will go on more than 300,000 people. And thats you. 300,000 people. And thats you. Youve signed our petition to save pound sterling coins and banknotes from extinction and then slow the move to a Cashless Society. Yeah, it was a fantastic day yesterday. Is as good presenters deliver the petition in person to the treasury at number 11 downing street and within a matter of hours they said they were required people and businesses to be known. More businesses to be known. More than three miles away from a cash withdrawal or deposit centre. And they will even give the Financial Conduct Authority powers to fine banks who fail to comply. Comply. They were outside number 11, delivering your petition. Yeah , and i was saying yeah, and i was saying yesterday a lot of people will be very thrilled by the prospect of nigel farage hammering on the door at downing street. Others might be quite chilled by the prospect, but it was a great moment and real prospect of moment and a real prospect of seeing people power progress, seeing people power in progress, holding to account and Holding Power to account and literally over night the government have reacted a fantasy result for gb news and mainly for you, the viewers who signed that petition to thank you. Lets talk to dr. Roger gove, whos a former adviser to the treasury, as well as to the bank of england. He joins us now for a reaction. Its a very good morning to you this is quite something. I mean, i imagine the treasury say we were thinking about this anyway, but we at gb news feel that well, we certainly prompted of the certainly prompted a lot of the action suddenly happened action that suddenly happened overnight. What do you think . Yeah, absolutely. I think oh, yeah, absolutely. I think its fantastic. I want to get the same group of nigel and bev and liam and patrick and dups to come with me to the bank of england and get them to stop raising and even lower Interest Rates because, again, like killing cash, its a very, very stupid idea. So, you know. Well done to gb news and the giant piggy done to gb news and the giant piggy bank. Well meet. Well need to think of something similar to bring to the bank of england. But i think that this should be done for you know, all try to write all of the various idiotic things that this government has done or failed to do. Itsjust government has done or failed to do. Its just its just such a Great Movement to see the five of them there and get your 300,000 signatures. Its brilliant. We need more of this to start putting things right. Yeah. Roger, its been excellent. Of course. Heres the excellent. Of course. Heres the petition that was ostensibly set up to help protect Small Businesses that trade in cash. The elderly who prefer cash and oftentimes feel left behind by technological advances. Technological advances. Smartphones paying to download apps to park their cars. All of these things become barriers and they impact upon the elderly and they impact upon the elderly and the disabled and the most infirm. But do you think its fair to say that the big banks would like to phase out cash . Would like to phase out cash . Its dirty. Its expensive. Its its dirty. Its expensive. Its has to be handled. Is the direction of travel toward cashless. And with that in mind, how important is this victory by gb news . Yeah , i think that the yeah, i think that the direction of travel is certainly towards cashless and that is a good thing really. Towards cashless and that is a good thing really. Digital transactions have gone up from 45 to 85 in the recent past. So you know, people are certainly using cash less, but that doesnt mean you have to get rid of it because, as you say, the elderly, people with disabilities , people in rural disabilities, people in rural areas, all sorts of people, traders that need to carry large amounts, large amounts of cash at the end of the day to the bank of people who want to, as one person pointed out , bank of people who want to, as one person pointed out, a tenner in a birthday card for somebody. We still need cash. So i think that what gb news has done here is really fantastic. And the is really fantastic. And the fact that the treasury and the government have actually listened and done something about it is wonderful. And as i say , we need to and you need to say, we need to and you need to do more of this. And the next thing i want to do is get those five to come with me to the bank of england and tell that that bailey , osiris, that thick bailey, osiris, that thick skinned gentleman, mr bailey, there , who doesnt nobody seems there, who doesnt nobody seems to get through to him. Lets see if we cant all get through to him because Interest Rates have killed the economy and have literally destroyed the lives of millions of britons without doing anything to release to reduce inflation. Rishi is jumping up and down yesterday. Hey were beating inflation. No, youre not real. Real inflation. Core inflation is unchanged at 6. 9. So what i find interesting as well about this is that this isnt gb news sitting down and planning and plotting something. This is people power in its most basic sense , isnt it . Its most basic sense, isnt it . Its literally just about people getting together and signing a petition. Yes, weve enabled petition. Yes, weve enabled that, but thats it. And then you look as well at those pictures of the team outside number 11 and you look at the difference that nigel has difference that nigel farage has made himself just in complaining about the de banking scandal. And thats probably going to grow and grow. It just makes you wonder whether anyone inside number 11 or inside the bank of england actually have a clue as to what ordinary people think. To what ordinary people think. No, i dont think they do. I think theyve proven that over over many years, especially recent years. And its a shame. And because you would think that for two people, the Prime Minister and the chancellor who themselves may very well likely be evicted in the next 18 months from number 10 and 11, theyd be sympathetic with people with mortgages who are going to lose their homes, but they it just doesnt register. So , roger, finally, how so, roger, finally, how important a victory do you think this is for the everyman , the this is for the everyman, the every woman, the small person who who will not sit down and be silenced . Theyve stood up and roared dont kill cash absolutely. Absolutely. Tremendously. Its actually. Tremendously. Its actually. The first time over the last few years we have seen tremendous oppression of the British Public. Oppression of the british pubuc. The oppression of the British Public. The highest taxation , public. The highest taxation, you know, all kinds of ridiculous , stupid things done ridiculous, stupid things done or not done. Five pledges that havent been made , a dismal havent been made, a dismal record , a record by the record, a record by the opposition , where they havent opposition, where they havent even stood up and said theyd do something different, mean our leadership is very , very leadership is very, very disappointing. So for the people to stand up, led by gb news, led by nigel and Liam Halligan and the rest of them standing up and saying, hey, you know, you cannot kill cash. I mean, this is just one aspect of our lives in society that you guys are not going to crush. Were not having it. And for the government to it. And for the government to respond because they know that the consequences would not be good , i think its just an good, i think its just an extraordinary victory and a tremendous vindication of gb news and its growing position in the british media and british society. Wow society. Wow thank you. Thank you for saying it. Yes, bringing a tear to this jaded eye. Doctor roger goward, thank you very much for joining us this morning. Tremendous. Thank you. Well, when we form a government, who will you be . I dont think i dont think they want me anywhere near it. But certainly of people but certainly a lot of people were marking upon the fact that seeing Nigel Downing seeing nigel on downing street, whatever think his whatever you think of his heritage , the fact hes taken heritage, the fact hes taken such a key place now, as you rightly pointed in the rightly pointed out in the de banking shining de banking scandal and shining a light this already light on all of this already achieved change actually is astonishing. If you dont like his even if you dont like his politics, have to politics, he you have to acknowledge that have been acknowledge that there have been theres significant change acknowledge that there have been therewe significant change acknowledge that there have been therewe started|ificant change acknowledge that there have been therewe started having change acknowledge that there have been therewe started having a|ange acknowledge that there have been therewe started having a go. E since we started having a go. What about getting you in government . Youd be brilliant. What about getting you in goth,nent . Youd be brilliant. What about getting you in goth, fart . Youd be brilliant. What about getting you in goth, far toooud be brilliant. What about getting you in goth, far too oldi be brilliant. What about getting you in goth, far too old now. rilliant. Oh, far too old now. Oh, far too old now. I dont know about that. I dont know about that. Would want job . Who would want the job . Thats keep coming back who would want the job . Thipeople keep coming back who would want the job . Thipeople who aep coming back who would want the job . Thipeople who vote oming back who would want the job . Thipeople who vote foring back who would want the job . Thipeople who vote for you. Ack to. People who vote for you. Yeah. Thank you very much. But no, even if they did, which i doubt knew. No, i really wouldnt want would wouldnt want the job. Would you, lets you, crumbs . No. Anyway, lets move on to somebody. I really do want talk as well. Want to talk about as well. Tributes, of course , are now tributes, of course, are now pounng tributes, of course, are now pouring for Michael Parkinson pouring in for Michael Parkinson parky, britains most parky, one of britains most celebrated broadcasters who sadly yesterday at the age sadly died yesterday at the age of 88. A magnificent Television Career spanning seven decades. Sir michael fondly called parky by friends and fans, became one of the greatest, if not the greatest interviewers of all time. With his long running chat show. Show. Well, were joined now in the studio by showbiz expert Stephanie Takyi. Hi, steph. Hi. Stephanie takyi. Hi, steph. Hi. You look like a ray of sunshine i well, were not getting no sun outside, so i thought id bnng sun outside, so i thought id bring it to the studio even though we all naturally bring it. Im devastated about parky because ive interviewed him before and was one of my before and he was one of my heroes. Because when you think of the art of the interview, especially when youre interviewing celebrities, hes he it naturally. He had it naturally. And im so glad youre using the word interview, because what really annoys me and i know a lot of the tabloid papers use the chat because its a the word chat because its a short one and it makes a good headline. But he did more than chat people. Headline. But he did more than chait people. Headline. But he did more than chait was ople. Headline. But he did more than chait was an e. Headline. But he did more than chait was an interview, i think it was an interview, i think chat it that whole showbiz chat gives it that whole showbiz thing, an art to thing, but there is an art to the interview and theres an art to getting from to getting stuff from celebrities, saw him do celebrities, which we saw him do over past seven decades. And over the past seven decades. And he proud yorkshireman. He he was a proud yorkshireman. He came tv where it came at a time in tv where it was mostly about the southern accents, but he came through refreshed. Can imagine accents, but he came through refriworld can imagine accents, but he came through refriworld of can imagine accents, but he came through refriworld of showbiznn imagine accents, but he came through refriworld of showbiz haveagine accents, but he came through refriworld of showbiz have been the world of showbiz have been paying the world of showbiz have been paying to sir paying tributes to him. Sir David Attenborough said being interviewed him like interviewed by him was like being meeting a friend, Sir Elton John said he loved his company. Hes Incredible Knowledge of cricket because he was cricket fan and was a massive cricket fan and barnsley football football club. They paid minutes silence to they paid a minutes silence to him ahead of their game yesterday. Yesterday. Everybody was, you i think everybody was, you know,. Actually, when know, gutted. Actually, when i heard was shocked when i heard i was i was shocked when i heard i was i was shocked when i heard the news. And we knew he was older and frailer. Was getting older and frailer. We there are some we knew that. But there are some when somebodys a National Treasure, never to see treasure, you never want to see them treasure, you never want to see the no. And always has this he no. And he always has this he always had this zest for life because always used to have to phone him because he wrote phone him when because he wrote a books towards the end of a few books towards the end of his he was always his life. And he was always friendly he was always still friendly and he was always still positive optimistic about positive and optimistic about the new generation of journalists coming up. When i interviewed him, said he had interviewed him, he said he had no but did feel no regrets, but he did feel sorry for the new generation of journalists because he says weve best year in weve had all the best year in our time. I w hes right. So i think hes right. So i think hes right. And its interesting how the word overused, but word journalist is overused, but this is the guy who really, like worked i mean, worked the patch. I mean, locally on local press, locally on the local press, Manchester Guardian and then the observer, then the sunday times, the sports correspondent. You the sports correspondent. You always school with o levels. Yes. You know, thats all he was. He was a work in class was. He was a real work in class lad, but a proper trained grassroots put in grassroots journalist who put in all that shoe leather and hard work common touch way work had the common touch way before anywhere near a tv screen. Well, thats why respect is due i think due to him, because i think sometimes get a lot of these sometimes you get a lot of these showbiz presenters whove actually through actually havent gone through the journalism training or havent spent time in havent even spent time in a newspaper. So its quite salacious and its quite scandalous where him there scandalous where for him there was pure passion for was that pure passion for journalism and even though he was interviewing celebrities, he still of asking still had that knack of asking the right questions and keeping them at ease. So come on, touch. Yes. Have you got a picture of you with him . I do, you with him . Yes, i do, actually. I think this was actually. So i think this was after interview i did after an interview that i did when he was promoting his book. Oh, muhammad ali. Oh, lovely. With muhammad ali. So even had the power to tame so he even had the power to tame the of muhammad ali. So the tiger of muhammad ali. So i think he was also have a picture and a view with porky. And a view with porky. Yeah, well, i knew him very well you imagine, because well as you can imagine, because i with him tv when i trained with him at tv when i when i was a young nothing. He was the he was the older guy there and passed on all his his wit and wisdom. He was wonderful that met there when was that we met there when i was doing a programme. He doing a radio programme. He came in and was a wonderful chatter there. Thats about five years ago. But i knew him obviously from early days. He came to dinner my house in sydney dinner at my house in sydney just on the day of our wedding actually, and sat in the living room and just chatted away and kept there. He is sitting there having a with and im having a nibble with and im sitting on the sofa there with wife mary and there, there i am with of them. In our with both of them. Yeah in our living room, in gorgeous living room, in our gorgeous house i to say. House in sydney, i have to say. But and it was , ive got lots of but and it was, ive got lots of so many lovely stories, but basically its just about the fact that he was wonderful and we have to think of lady mary today because they were together for over 50 years. Three children, a smashing couple. You know, he was absolutely brilliant. In they did they did a in fact, they did they did a saturday morning on tv and for a couple of years, i think together. Oh, wow. Yeah. Together. Oh, wow. Oh, yeah. Michael mary show, as it michael and mary show, as it were. Lovely. Ive never heard of that. Oh, yes, it did. Yeah. Because when the famous five launched, im sure a lot of people watching would probably remember. And then it was sort of disastrous of a start. Of a bit disastrous of a start. And when reshuffled and then when they reshuffled everything, michael mary everything, michael and mary went on to the weekends and they did a saturday morning show. Went on to the weekends and they did a saturday morning show. You did a saturday morning show. You see, think it might have been see, i think it might have been sunday well. I would sunday morning as well. I would love watch when my love to watch that. And when my mum flew out to for my mum flew out to sydney for my wedding , she mum flew out to sydney for my wedding, she found herself in the same air, in the same compartment as michael and mary and she didnt know, but they heard the air stewardess saying to my mum , mrs. Diamond, would to my mum, mrs. Diamond, would you like blah blah blah . And you like blah blah blah . And they came over and they said, are you anns mother . And she said, yeah, come on up front with us and lets have a party. And and when she got off the plane, shell say, oh, you never guess who. I just spent the entire 24 hour with. Hour journey with. The most marvellous she had the most marvellous time because they were generous. Both of were lovely and, both of them were lovely and, you like did battle you know, like he did battle through cancer. You know, like he did battle thr but cancer. You know, like he did battle thr but the cancer. You know, like he did battle thr but the familyancer. Said he but the family have said he did away after a brief did pass away after a brief illness. Did pass away after a brief ilanell, was 88, i suppose, well, he was 88, i suppose, and as i said, we knew he was getting very frail. But the whole family. Can you imagine . I just its in one stage. It might be nice. On the other, it must be nice. On the other, it must be every single page has be every single front page has got enormous picture of him. Got an enormous picture of him. And many the insides as and so many of the insides as well. You cant get away from the wonderful of him the wonderful pictures of him today. And that must be, in a way, wonderful for them , but way, wonderful for them, but also very, very sad. And i think the stats are incredible. Over 2000 interviews, 800 episodes. Its i can imagine whoevers at the bbc having to dig through those archives, theres just an incredible plethora of work. But if you start feeling sad , look at the interview with the emu. Yeah yeah. Thats rod holden interview. Thats rod holden interview. Ill show that to my kids. I showed my kids they showed my kids yesterday. They were laughing thoughts. Were laughing their thoughts. First time its the First Time Ever a puppet had sort of taken over and reduced somebody who was very famous to the floor. Absolutely. Yes absolutely. Yes and then, of course, he got he had a wonderful relationship with miss piggy. Yes. Yes you came back on the show many times because she loved him so much. And he also made household names of sir billy colony as well. Wonder how meg well. And also, i wonder how meg ryan feeling today, because ryan is feeling today, because that one of his stone face that was one of his stone face interviews which he had to apologise for 20 years later. He learned from they but he learned from they always said he looks back and he learnt that that learnt from that and that humility. Yeah, i made a mistake even that of his career even at that stage of his career was learn and change was willing to learn and change and genuine talent. Thats the lesson and thats the legacy. He leaves us all. I think. Yeah. So r. I. P. Michael parkinson id say thats very upsetting, isnt it . Should we catch up with what is going to be day weatherwise . Be a big day weatherwise . That warm feeling inside from boxt boilers proud sponsors of weather on. Gb news. Weather on. Gb news. Hello. Very good morning to you. Its Aidan Mcgivern here from the met office. Its a windy start to the day and youll notice the humidity out there , even if its not there, even if its not especially sunny , that humidity especially sunny, that humidity along with some instability, courtesy of low pressure to the southwest, leading to the risk of thunderstorms across central and southern parts during the morning this morning could cause some impacts with frequent lightning intense some impacts with frequent lightni of intense some impacts with frequent lightniof rain. Intense some impacts with frequent lightniof rain. But intense some impacts with frequent lightniof rain. But iralways, bursts of rain. But as always, these thunderstorms we hit and miss and they tend to die miss and they do tend to die away they push north away as they push north eastwards morning. Eastwards during the morning. Northern staying fine. Northern scotland staying fine. Southwest england largely fine as sunshine as well. Some sunshine coming through, cloud and through, but a lot of cloud and a strong especially for a strong wind, especially for northwest 50 mile per northwest wales. 50 mile per hour wind gusts could impact people for people on their holidays. For example, well , it gets example, then, well, it gets very lively overnight , example, then, well, it gets very lively overnight, a band of heavy rain moves into southwest areas that pushes into the rest of england , into northern of england, into northern ireland, southern scotland by midnight. At ireland, southern scotland by midnight. At same time, midnight. And at the same time, theres risk of some serious theres the risk of some serious thunderstorms developing across eastern england. Frequent lightning, in tents, lightning, large hail in tents, outbreaks of rain. Its also outbreaks of rain. Its also going to be a windy night and a muqqy going to be a windy night and a muggy night, 18, 19 celsius across some parts of southern uk and to high teens, widely by and mid to high teens, widely by dawn across many parts of the country. Heavy, persistent rain then moves into parts of scotland especially north scotland, especially the north and further spells of and the east. Further spells of rain or showers across northern ireland. The rest of scotland, Northern England, a quieter picture the rest of england picture for the rest of england and sunny spells and and wales. Sunny spells and showers and large, still some showers by and large, still some warmth in that sun in the southeast. Highs of 25 or 26 degrees. Degrees. That warm feeling inside from boxt boilers. Proud sponsors of weather on. Gb news. Weather on. Gb news. Well, i was asking and we were arguing whether or not the womens football on sunday world cup is as big a moment as 1966. And its got you going because andrew says, i attended wembley in 1966 and im going to travel to sydney for sundays final. Ive waited a long time and ive given up on the blokes. Thanks, ladies, for getting us at last to a World Cup Final. To a World Cup Final. So thats hearing it for the lionesses tone in london has a somewhat different take. He says you simply just cant compare the mens football to women. Wrexham played the usa womens team over 40 minutes and usa were losing 12 nil. The standard is shocking, but well done lionesses. See, matt says. Yeah, yeah. See, matt says. Yeah, yeah. That was also the usa womens team. I mean, you know, theyve come later into the game as well. Matt says the womens Football Team reaching the final is fantastic. I was born after is fantastic. I was born after 66, so its brilliant to see england in a World Cup Final. England in a World Cup Final. Womens football is nearly as good as the mens. It just needs the big sponsors and tv coverage i yeah. Final word to con who says , lets be honest, martin says, lets be honest, martin annan. This country hasnt been good enough to win anything since 1966. Well, maybe not. Maybe sunday will disprove that. Right. Stick will disprove that. Right. Stick with us. Up next, the government has called for pubs to open earlier for sundays Women World Cup final. Do you think thats cup final. Do you think thats the right decision . Youre the right decision . Youre watching news its 6 28. Welcome back. Youre watching and listening to breakfast with anne and martin. Now, publicans are calling on the government to loosen licencing rules for pub Opening Hours this sunday ahead of the womens World Cup Final with the government encouraging councils overnight to get pubs open earlier. The lionesses, of course, are going to play spain at 11 am. This sunday after beating australia earlier this week. But current regulations mean that most pubs cant serve alcohol before 11 and many not until midday today. Well, alex rothman is a restaurant writer who says he is for all pubs opening early as its good for business and the industry. But social commentator bucha shaikh says why would pubs want to open for something that isnt even a big deal . Oh good morning to you both. To you both. Why dont we start with you , why dont we start with you, alex . As somebody who is in favour of this, but that, favour of this, but before that, what the technical studies what are the technical studies around so is it true that around this . So is it true that on a sunday you cant serve booze until and booze until midday . And how might about changing that might you go about changing that for off event . For this one off event . Well, i would say is, well, what i would say is, broadly speaking, we have quite complex licences in this country. So ive had an active comparison with spain where ive been working previously, and there tend just there they tend to have just a broader where they can broader licencing where they can open eight in morning open from eight in the morning to whatever, its sort of to whatever, and its sort of dnven to whatever, and its sort of driven the market people driven by the market what people want area. And of want in the local area. And of course they have to enforce if theres drunk behaviour or anything anti social, any anything thats anti social, any security like this, security or anything like this, then becomes then obviously that becomes a problem the licence. Here problem for the licence. Here we have driven by the licencing authority quite authority in the area quite complex sort of situations where people trading people have different trading hours just different opening people have different trading hours and different opening people have different trading hours and different hours1g people have different trading hours and different hours for selling alcohol specifically. In this issue is , i would this case, the issue is, i would say broadly that most have a licence to sell alcohol from 11 or 12. What theyd like to do is start earlier because theres a special event that people want to attend and want to have a dnnk and to attend and want to have a drink and theres not enough drink at, and theres not enough time the semi final and time between the semi final and the to a temporary the final to get a temporary event right. And event notice in right. And whether reply before whether to reply for that before we were to the we know were going to the final. It might be a wasted application. Thats thats the technicalities. But in principle, good thing , principle, its a good thing, right . People right . I mean, people should be able go watch sports able to go and watch sports somewhere have a drink if somewhere and have a drink if they not compulsory they choose not compulsory to have in the morning have a booze 11 in the morning if you want to. Surely they should be allowed. Well, i would separate the personal me from own personal for me from my own personal for me from my own personal feelings from personal sort of feelings from what do. What others do. I myself possibly i myself cant possibly access or the idea access the thought or the idea that would have that you would need to have a dnnk that you would need to have a drink 10 00 in the morning to drink at 10 00 in the morning to enjoy a sports event. But obviously many people would like enjoy a sports event. But ob\andly many people would like enjoy a sports event. But ob\andly mamy eople would like enjoy a sports event. But ob\andly mamy eopleofould like enjoy a sports event. But ob\and ly ma my eopleof view,. Ike to. And from my point of view, every licensee is charged with the responsibility of making sure behave responsibly, sure people behave responsibly, dont leave the venue drunk, make whether it be 2 00 make a mess. Whether it be 2 00 in the afternoon, 4 00 in the afternoon, 10 00 at night. And as well the british as we all well know, the british are capable getting drunk at are capable of getting drunk at any day causing any time of day and causing a problem. I cant really see problem. So i cant really see where difference here. Where the difference is here. And i would contend and in fact, i would contend that dealing with a few people having at 10 am. Is a having a drink at 10 am. Is a lot less difficult than dealing with 11 pm, 10 pm. So with a packed 11 pm, 10 pm. So we already have established that licensees and their staff are responsible and are able to lack within the licencing laws at these times. I cant see what these times. I cant see what the problem is. Bushra, your okay, bushra, whats your point view . Point of view . My of view is honestly, my point of view is honestly, i dont think that many brits need to have a drink so early in the morning. Its a football match. A morning. We match. Its a sunday morning. We are to reduce our are also trying to reduce our Alcohol Consumption in the as well. Are trying veer away well. We are trying to veer away from so this might be an from that. So this might be an opportunity to really introduce people they can have people of how they can have a family field enjoyed in environment without having to get the home office and the government to do additional work when theyve got other pressing things do to just have things to do to just have alcohol for an additional hour. Bushra, in the name of but bushra, in the name of gender equality, lets remember that during the japan world cup , pubs were open routinely at breakfast time in britain and they were serving full english they were serving a full english with pints. It was with a few pints. It was fantastic. Surely we want the same for the women. Same for the women. Okay, so were going to make this about gender. Think it had. Maybe they have thought this out before know, maybe before. You know, they maybe have time to understand have more time to understand that could you that this could happen. You know, people an extra hour. Know, give people an extra hour. But dont why. But i just dont see why. I mean, can pubs just not open without serving alcohol . And you could have some snacks and some other you know, mean, other drinks . You know, i mean, there lots lovely drinks there are lots of lovely drinks that that are not that are mocktails that are not alcohol, but just on, on alcohol, but i just think on, on alcohol, but i just think on, on a day when youre a special day when youre joining with other people and getting excited about something, i whats wrong with a i cant see whats wrong with a beer 11 00 a sunday morning. Can you know for sure . Can you know for sure . Well, i think think think its more culture. I personally dont drink, so i know, i can enjoy myself i you know, i can enjoy myself without having alcohol think without having alcohol and think this is a good issue to talk about because in general, think Alcohol Consumption is on the rise. We are seeing that people are more. We are seeing are drinking more. We are seeing antisocial so these antisocial behaviour. So these are kind of elements that we do need look across. I do get need to look at across. I do get your point. Its a football match, although personally i dont womens dont think that the womens football great the football is as great as the mens football. You know, mens football. But you know, you you know, thats just you know, you know, thats just thats just thats my personal opinion. I dont think with opinion. I dont think with womens football , we they womens football, we just they still feel like its a very masculine game. And im used to seeing men play football and not not women, you know, thats not women, but, you know, thats a different debate. A whole different debate. But yeah, an yeah, just feel like an additional of alcohol is additional hour of alcohol is unnecessary. The unnecessary. And honestly, the government have more important things than to worry about things to do than to worry about an extended licence. Well, say that, but sir well, you say that, but sir storm to call bank storm wants to call a bank houday storm wants to call a bank holiday lionesses win. So holiday of the lionesses win. So it a political because it is a political thing because people points, but people want brownie points, but back to the topic of drinking. Alex major and the japan alex are a major and the japan world cup everyone said oh my god, english cant be god, the english cant be trusted alcohol. Going trusted with alcohol. Its going to didnt happen. To be chaos. That didnt happen. People be trusted people can be trusted responsibly treat them as responsibly if you treat them as adults. We see airports or adults. We see in airports or even train stations even in train stations travelling, football fans having a and always a drink and not always getting into trouble. So surely for this into trouble. So surely for this one off, the government shouldnt be poopers. And shouldnt be party poopers. And we lionesses, we should say go lionesses, raise glass to them. Raise a glass to them. Yeah, sorry i have to slow down because. Yeah, i understand what youre saying. I need to take take point by point what was there. So basically was said there. So basically what saying is a lot of what were saying is a lot of the work to go to Central Government make this one government to make this one small change. I couldnt possibly agree. So the overarching is im old overarching thing is im old enough to remember when the magistrates court, fact, magistrates court, in fact, when i went for my first licence, my mum a magistrate in the mum was a magistrate in the local to recuse local area. She had to recuse herself make there was herself to make sure there was no remember the no bias. I remember the magistrate at virtually magistrate sitting at virtually zero the community zero cost to the community and making decisions local making decisions in the local community and now its all centralised, so i couldnt agree more that we more that its a fiasco, that we have to go to the home office to get a change in a minor thing like this. Literally the like this. Its literally the equivalent ceo news equivalent to the ceo of gb news having to a biscuit having to approve a biscuit order. Its a joke. Okay, i agree with lets just agree with you. So lets just say if you look at say furthermore, if you look at the comparison with spain, which i wouldnt on about it, but i wouldnt hop on about it, but i wouldnt hop on about it, but ispent i wouldnt hop on about it, but i spent of time there. I i spent a lot of time there. I grew up there. The licence is you eight the you can open from eight in the morning until two in the morning. Normal cafe bar licence, problem whatsoever. Morning. Normal cafe bar licence, locallem whatsoever. Morning. Normal cafe bar licence, local police|atsoever. Morning. Normal cafe bar licence, local police outever. They have local police out making that bad making sure that theres no bad behaviour. Licensing objectives in general shouldnt interfere with business until theres a problem Community Problem in the community because of drinking. Thats of people drinking. Yeah, thats the line. Its not you the bottom line. Its not you shouldnt intervening shouldnt be intervening unnecessarily i couldnt unnecessarily and i couldnt agree i basically dont agree more. I basically dont drink. Glass of wine drink. I have a glass of wine every of months. Every couple of months. I personally like drink, personally dont like to drink, but understand where you but i dont understand where you get deciding that people get off deciding that people shouldnt a shouldnt be able to have a dnnk shouldnt be able to have a drink because dont like drink because you dont like having long they having one. As long as they behave. Its literally like, you know, if im going to have to call time here, otherwise call time on it here, otherwise every time for anything else in the programme. Every time for anything else in the progalex,1e. Every time for anything else in the progalex, bushra, thank you but alex, bushra, thank you both so much and course both so very much and of course after bushra there after what bushra said there about game, about the Womens Womens game, not important, still not being as important, still want to hear your views on that, please gbviews gbnews. Com yeah. So stay with us for a look through all of fridays newspapers. This is breakfast on ive never heard anything so ridiculous. She said that. She said that. She said that. Why is it a big, thick and fast, particularly about the football, also about the football, but also about the drinking . Anyway, very good morning. And morning. Youre watching and listening breakfast listening to breakfast with and martin shall we have a quick look at of todays look at some of todays newspaper front pages . And of newspaper front pages . And of course, most newspapers are leading with tributes to sir Michael Parkinson as we know. Now, yesterday we were told hed died after a short illness. He was 88 and the daily star there get away from weird aliens and things and put parky on the front saying he was the king with emu. My favourite of his interviews. It was the a level interviews. It was the a level results, of course , yesterday. Results, of course, yesterday. And eyelids were the reports and the eyelids were the reports warning the gap in academic achievements between wealthier and more deprived regions continue to widen. The daily mail reports on the latest scandal at the British Museum, a top expert was sacked after some ancient artefacts went missing. Over the years. Went missing. Over the years. Its a real whodunit that one. And the times says chemists and private clinics are now able to sell covid boosterjabs and private clinics are now able to sell covid booster jabs to those who are not eligible on the nhs after the Health Officials gave the green light to private sales, the guardian , to private sales, the guardian, meanwhile, says thousands of students in england are missing out on top grades as the government enforced a reverse of pandemic era grade. Inflation pandemic era grade. Inflation what time to go through the newspapers now . Joining us this morning news is senior political commentator nigel nelson and writer and commentator candace holdsworth. So what are we holdsworth. So what are we starting with . I think ive lost my list, starting with a bit of migration. Arent we . Nigel . This is from the telegraph. The french once again dragging the heels. Yes this is sort of martins. I told you so moment when you like stories like this. Yeah. This the of the this is the front of the telegraph. Theyre saying telegraph. What theyre saying is been that is that weve been saying that our. Ā£480 is that weve been saying that our. Ā£480 million to the french has been stopped, has been stopping people getting on the boats and coming over. The British Government keep heralding this as one of the successes. But new figures are showing that, in fact , france is showing that, in fact, france is not doing quite so well. And the not doing quite so well. And the result theyve now stopped result is theyve now stopped 44,000 fewer people all getting across. So as our across. So as our money across. So as our money going, well, this is a good question. I mean, the whole point point of it, i mean, there are a variety of things weve got. Weve got problems with the french with. One is that wed like our Border Force People on french beaches to join the gendarmes patrolling them. The french dont like that was the sovereignty we would like the french to stop the boats, as they say , allowed. The french they say, allowed. The french say maritime law prohibits them from doing that. There is a theres some question about whether thats true or not. Yeah and so what the french have agreed to do is stop the boats before they leave the coastline. What these figures are showing is theyre not stopping quite as many as they perhaps should be. Now, of course, there could be a whole load of Different Reasons for that the bad weather for this, that the bad weather has meant fewer crossings anyway, although the last couple of months, i mean, june was a record month for the last couple of months have been quite heavy. Earlier in the year, the bad weather was stopping people coming over. So maybe thats the reason for the figures. So reason for the figures. So perhaps its a bit early to blame the french too much yet. Well, okay, so lets look at some other figures. So a figure that came out this week in the times on tuesday, there times on tuesday, candy, there are less gendarme patrolling are 20 less gendarme patrolling the beaches in france because theyre all on holiday. You theyre all on holiday. You couldnt it up. Theyre couldnt make it up. Theyre literally on holiday, are not doing their despite the fact doing their job despite the fact theyve half billion theyve had half a billion reasons be at work well, reasons to be at work well, since last week when that boat sank. And you read the reports of exactly what was going on. I mean, utter lawlessness on those beaches, ive noticed attitudes really hardening now. And people are saying, you you need are saying, you know, you need to down. How can you to shut this down. How can you allow to going on . Allow this to be going on . I mean, apparently there were people there people shooting guns there was a 15 year boy who was on that 15 year old boy who was on that boat. Said he was absolutely boat. He said he was absolutely terrified. I mean, whole terrified. I mean, this whole industry, this whole trafficking industry, this whole trafficking industry, trafficking industry is run by the most is being run by the most unscrupulous people imaginable. And i just think responsible people need to get on top of this. This. E another reason, now, theres another reason, isnt though, nigel, why isnt there, though, nigel, why the dont to stop the french dont want to stop illegals leaving france . And thatis illegals leaving france . And that is it could cost macron his presidency. Immigration is a huge issue domestically. Why on earth would he want to stop people leaving his country . Well, i mean, there is yeah, well, i mean, there is that i mean, when you that problem. I mean, when you think people who think about it, the people who are to calais arent are coming to calais arent going there because want to going there because they want to sightsee tourists. Theyre sightsee or be tourists. Theyre going there specifically to try and across to the uk. And so and get across to the uk. And so in general terms, its in macrons interest to for them to do just that or to actually leave his country. So i think that if you think about putting the boot on the other foot, if this was happening here, wed probably feel the same way. Yes so i can understand why he feels the way he does that essentially. This is not a french problem. This is not a french problem. These people have passed through other safe countries before. Theyve reached france. So you can understand the macron is saying, well , why should we have saying, well, why should we have to have to look after them . Because theyre already taking a lot. Who are staying in . Well, theyre taking more than we are. More. And than we are. Yes. More. And also, they i mean, they process their in half the their Asylum Seekers in half the time do so theyre time that we do so theyre working very hard on doing it. But obviously, because france is in an area, people can cross borders very easily. See their borders very easily. See their problem is greater than ours. You dont need a boat to get into france. And then the big question is, if thats the case, if we take everything weve said now is true, then why earth are we true, then why on earth are we giving half Ā£1 billion to a country that doesnt particularly want to us . Particularly want to help us . Thats question. We thats the big question. We should move on. Should probably move on. Should move on yes, we should move on because otherwise this is becoming debate that becoming a debate about that alone. And that just shows how important it is. However, candice, we candice, it looks as though we will to pay to get our will be able to pay to get our covid now covid boosters. Now thats the news this yes. So thats the news this morning. In the times, youll be able to get a covid booster. Now for 15 to Ā£20 from for about 15 to Ā£20 from pharmacies, private clinics. And what is, is that our what this shows is, is that our management of the disease is starting become more starting to become more normalised. So not normalised. So its not just seen as emergency thing. If seen as an emergency thing. If you that youre vulnerable you feel that youre vulnerable and is not going to and the nhs is not going to provide a jab for you, then you can go and for yourself, can go and buy it for yourself, much people do with flu much like people do with flu jabs , instance. And also jabs, for instance. And also whats is it whats very interesting is it says though still says that though covid is still around, seeing fewer around, youre seeing much fewer hospitalisations. So down hospitalisations. So its down from about 36 per 1000 in 20 21 to 3 per 1000. So i think thats really incredible. Actually how far weve come. Its also ameliorated this the sort of toxic debate about the government forcing us to have vaccines. Thats such a good point. This now becomes a matter of choice. Yes. Yes, it does. Yes. Yes, it does. Yes. Yeah and i think that its quite reasonable if people are worried about and they want to a covid jab, thats fine. To buy a covid jab, thats fine. I mean, im jabbed up to the eyeballs on the basis of the programme that was run for free. Id only go and get a covid jab now i thought was now if i thought there was a variant which was variant coming, which was particularly dodgy. And get one, ill no, ill go and get one, ill pay no, ill go and get one, ill pay Ā£15 and go and just go and have it. Whatever your position on the vaccines, a good vaccines, i think its a good thing this is now a choice, thing that this is now a choice, not a mandate. Yes, particularly with that the with children. That was the one thing really me when i thing that really got me when i was getting letters three from my 13 year old, addressed directly him. It really directly to him. It really concerned so back to concerned me. So back to the realms of has to be good. Realms of choice has to be good. It has be good. Yeah, it has to be good. I mean, as you say, its a sign that moved on, which a that weve moved on, which is a good thing to nigel, this extraordinary story about whats gone museum. Gone on at the British Museum. Just amazing. So yeah, it is just amazing. So the man whos allegedly responsible for this has been named higgs, who is the named peter higgs, who is the just for the sake of anyone who doesnt know the story, what is alleged on was the alleged to have gone on was the luxury happening. There were luxury of happening. There were a number of years that artefacts worth tens of millions pounds worth tens of millions of pounds going to 1500 bc have been going back to 1500 bc have been nicked from the British Museum and sold on the open market and it is an extraordinary story. Now theyre suggesting that the man responsible is a chap called peter higgs, who is the curator of the greek collection a world ex world expert, a world expert in this. In fairness, his son says , no, hes absolutely says, no, hes absolutely innocent. Says, no, hes absolutely innocent. Hes not says, no, hes absolutely innocent. Hes not been innocent. Hes not been interviewed by the police or anything like that. He has been fired. So his 30 year career is fired. So his 30 year career is has gone down the tubes. But he has gone down the tubes. But he theres been no action against him. But even so, one wonders about the security. There that what the daily mail is saying saying is that there are the security is not so good because as if you want to go into the art, theres no log to say who goesin art, theres no log to say who goes in those archives have got , you know, priceless treasures in there which are frankly never put on display. Thats right. I think most museums, they have tonnes and tonnes of stuff which is never put on display, just sort of kept in the cavern underneath. Yeah. And its research is going to have a look at and things like that because theyve got too much material to actually the public all of actually show the public all of it. But obviously its still this stuff is still obviously historically but did historically valuable. But did they find this was happening they find out this was happening . Not sure is the answer. They find out this was happening . Not sure is the answer. They just. Yeah, yes, thats what i was told, is that actually these things started to turn up on ebay. Well, theres ebay. They were starting to turn up on the open market. There was somebody spotted one of somebody who spotted one of these that he came these things that he knew came from the British Museum for from the British Museum up for open sales. Is extraordinary. So this is extraordinary. I im no Indiana Jones , but im im no Indiana Jones, but im sure you are. But but i would assume that ebay is not the best place to sell an ancient trinket. No. Well, that was the other part of the scandal, is that they have been sold some of these for next to these things for next to nothing. No, im fascinated by this. What is this market in these ancient whos buying . Ancient goods . Whos buying . Whos are you whos selling . Where are you displaying it because displaying it . Is it because youre obsessed with ancient greece you like to have greece and you just like to have these your house . These things in your house . Bought something well, if you bought something that on ebay for a that looked good on ebay for a fiver, you would want to display it mantelpiece. And it on your mantelpiece. And yet more than a five, here it goes. Its god, its progeny. Maybe youre to the youre right. Go back to the British Museum. Youre right. Go back to the british youren. Youre right. Go back to the british youre talking about but youre talking about i mean, are very rich people mean, there are very rich people who collecting these things who like collecting these things and they keep them in secret as well. But they just looking well. But they just like looking at knowing that theyre at them and knowing that theyre owning them. Isnt extraordinary . Isnt that extraordinary . Anyway, he has not anyway, as we say, he has not been charged anything. No, been charged with anything. No, hes no longer working in hes he is no longer working in that job, but has been fired. That job, but he has been fired. And named and he has so and been named and he has been so hes not been named. So hes not speaking. His son is. He was speaking. But his son is. He was outraged the treatment. His outraged by the treatment. His father is. God may not have been him. I guess well find out in the fullness time, but may may fullness of time, but he may may have responsible for a lack fullness of time, but he may may ha security. Responsible for a lack of security. I mean, it could be anything. I mean, it could be anything. Well, i mean, he wouldnt be i mean, it could be anything. Securitynean, he wouldnt be i mean, it could be anything. Security wasnt|e wouldnt be i mean, it could be anything. Security wasnt hisouldnt be his security wasnt his particular area, but he was allowed to go into the archives without logged. So without being logged. So apparently all is apparently all you need is a key. In, you can fiddle key. You go in, you can fiddle around all the various around with all the various things there. And things that are in there. And then there were monitors. So then there were monitors. You so theres of people, theres a whole host of people, photographs of him with these ancient greek masks on. He was playing around with so he was playing around with them. Of a them. He had a bit of a laxative, wouldnt you, if you worked museum, you to worked at a museum, you want to try out all the bits and pieces, but its fascinating story. Its going a movie in the going to be a movie in the future, no doubt. Will. Future, no doubt. Can will. Future, no doubt. Can these. Talked about can these we talked about yesterday, the grade inflation being reversed on a levels, leaving of people leaving a lot of people disappoint even unable disappoint or even unable to get to university. Is quite this quite this is quite this is quite sad. Yesterday was sad. I mean, yesterday was a very exciting day for lot of very exciting day for a lot of pupils, but for some, i mean, apparently 5000 fewer apparently about 5000 fewer pupils received a star pupils this year received a star grades total, the number of grades in total, the number of kids a star kids receiving a to a star grades dropped from 35. 9 to 26. 5. So thats pretty significant. Actually, above pandemic levels, though. So still, you can say artificially up. Artificially up. You could say that. But i just i feel very sorry for this generation. I feel like theyve had to take quite a lot of knocks. Maybe it will make them more resilient and in the future theyll able to handle theyll be able to handle difficulty a lot better than, say, previous generations did. So get too so maybe we shouldnt get too down theyve had down on them, but theyve had a lot deal with at very young age. The better response surely would just be to say right, were going to or the government says theyre going to be more apprenticeships you, apprenticeships open for you, more opportunities to learn as you you work. Think thats you as you work. I think thats thats father also this the thats my father also this the whole point that is all whole point that this is all a legacy of tony blair who wanted 50 go to 50 of people to go to university. University. It doesnt suit everybody. No. It well be, you no. And it may well be, you know, awful lot people are know, an awful lot of people are dropping who got the dropping out now who got the inflated grades when you went into the adult were into the adult workplace, were you what your a level you ever asked what your a level or been asked or no, ive never been asked once. What academic qualifications either. Never asked. Never asked. See, Gillian Keegan was criticised so much for saying that. Criticised so much for saying that. But criticised so much for saying that. But shes telling criticised so much for saying that. But shes telling the that. But shes telling the truth. She is telling the truth. Yes, she is telling the truth. Yes, she is telling the truth its important. Truth and its important. Kids need to hear that. Like you. Like were saying, theres so like you were saying, theres so much emphasis academic much emphasis on academic achievement wide achievement, but theres a wide variety of abilities out there and to start treasuring and we need to start treasuring them. Actually, thats one to yeah, actually, thats one to ask at home. Was the ask you at home. When was the last you ever asked last time you were ever asked what a levels , what how many a levels, o levels, whatever you o levels, gcses or whatever you had . Yeah, never. Usually when you go for an interview for a job, all they want to know is your experience youre your experience and what youre like. Really . Ive never been. Ive been never ive never been asked, never been checked. Well, i only asked at my well, i was only asked at my University Interview , so that University Interview, so that was it. Yeah, exactly. Youd expect that. Yeah. Youd expect that. Yeah. Oh , you got this when you get oh, you got this when you get into university. Literally from that moment i was. I was 19, 18. Never asked and im never been asked since and im nowhere near 19 now. Never been asked since and im nov no. 3 near 19 now. Never been asked since and im novno. Michael now. Never been asked since and im nov no. Michael parkinson who no. Michael parkinson who were all celebrating the life of. So much today, left school with o levels. With two o levels. Your personality cancer so much in life, your work ethic, all these things, these so called soft skills, theyre actually highly valuable. Valuable. And it was great yesterday because, of course, Jeremy Clarkson about clarkson tweets every year about the didnt get any the fact that he didnt get any a level. The fact that he didnt get any a iyeah. Yeah. Yeah. And yet, know, and i have and yet, you know, and i have a but this he said a ferrari, but this year he said and i own my own brewery. Yeah can you organise a whatsit in the brew in a brewery. Could. Absolutely. He could. Absolutely. He could. No a levels. He hes got no a levels. He doesnt matter for people like him. And unfortunately while tony blair might thought he was blair might have thought he was saying doing right thing saying and doing the right thing and right thing, and wishing the right thing, hes left a generation hes actually left a generation of with debt. Of kids with huge debt. Yes. Thats the other point. I just think that, you know and know the argument is its and i know the argument is its not sort of debt or you not the same sort of debt or you dont have to pay it off if but it is debt. And i think, yeah, thats absolutely right. People to leave young people to leave university with Enormous University at 2122 with enormous debt shoulder debt on their shoulder even thats start friendship. Instead, at least youll get paid. Yeah. So an apprenticeship now is actually a reasonable alternative to University Alternative to go to university and bang on about this every and i bang on about this every time comes up with university. The least likely but the least likely demographic to attend university in the uk are white, working class and theyre the ones class boys and theyre the ones who are terrified of taking on 50 worth debt. So 50 grands worth of debt. So its barrier for them to its a huge barrier for them to go to university, university tends who are tends to favour those who are already off. I think the already well off. I think the whole be looked whole system needs to be looked at. Got a full grant when at. I got a full grant when i when was a student. I got you when i was a student. I got you know, the government paid for me to go to university as the first person my family. Ive repaid person in my family. Ive repaid that many, times in tax and that many, many times in tax and that many, many times in tax and that helps disadvantage out that helps the disadvantage out the systems entirely the job that systems entirely gone saddling gone now. Were saddling kids with they with and its so scary they dont even bother attending. Problem now is with well, the problem now is with the cost living, theres just the cost of living, theres just nowhere move. People nowhere to move. So people have got student high got the student debt, high mortgage high bills. I mortgage costs, high bills. I mean, impossible. Mean, its impossible. Its an impossible and impossible situation. And if youve degree a very youve got a degree from a very lowly ranked university, thats actually signal actually quite a negative signal. Its something you have. Its almost something you have to yes. Yeah. So if now. Yes. Yes. Yeah. So if were very quickly then, nigel, look at whether rishi can help us by bringing in tax cuts us all by bringing in tax cuts because the daily express reckons he can. Yes, the express does. Yes, the daily express does. Yes, the daily express does. Think the daily express and i think the daily express is wrong. What the daily express is wrong. What the daily express is is that that the is saying is that he that the treasury will have Ā£30 billion extra because of higher wages coming in. So people are paying more tax. Youve got a freeze on more tax. Youve got a freeze on National Insurance and tax thresholds. So more people are thresholds. So more people are being drawn into tax. And all this has become a bit of a windfall for jeremy hunt. Problem is, we still have inflation, 6. 8, probably going to be an Interest Rate rise in september. Again, to cope with it, the worst thing you could do now is lower taxes until weve conquered inflation. But the best thing you could do now as a conservative Prime Minister, its a dangle, a tax cut to conservative voters because weve got the highest tax regime since world war ii. If we were any more taxed, wed be a socialist state. So surely it is a good thing for a conservative Prime Minister to be dangling out there, though, right . Well, hes he was the one who actually froze all these thresholds for four years because he reckoned he couldnt afford it. I mean, you may be right if you it out there, the you dangle it out there, the electorate might be much more willing to vote for you. However it could be a lie. I mean, it could wreck the economy if you do something wrong like that. The issue is, is whether you think this inflation that weve got now is fuelled by extra demand. So people having more got now is fuelled by extra demancwhetherple having more got now is fuelled by extra demancwhetherple externalrore money, whether its external factors energy costs, factors, energy costs, the energy from the war in energy shock from the war in ukraine. And i think theres some disagreement that. Some disagreement about that. But just being so but rishi sunak is just being so cautious. He doesnt want to be seen to be doing anything to make inflation worse right now. So i dont think therell be any tax until theyve got tax cuts until theyve got theyve got it right down. Look, before we say well, look, before we say goodbye the most goodbye to you, the most important question of is important question of the day is nigel, first is sunday mornings World Cup Final as important as 1966 . Yes , simple as that. Yes, simple as that. Yes, simple as that. I just think that theres nobody as much interest in the lionesses because of the time difference to australia. Difference to australia. Suddenly now theyre in the final. Its a whole different thing. And if we win that, yes, its 90, 66 all over again. What about you . What about you . Oh, absolutely. Girl power. Oh, good. Yes. Martin, you are a not doing so well here. Im the voice of reason , i im the voice of reason, i think, this morning. But no, i really dont think so. I think go with the times anyway. Thats one still for you. Weve had so many views anyway. Thats one still for you. Vitje had so many views anyway. Thats one still for you. Vit. Sorad so many views anyway. Thats one still for you. Vit. So thank many views anyway. Thats one still for you. Vit. So thank yomy views anyway. Thats one still for you. Vit. So thank you soiews anyway. Thats one still for you. Vit. So thank you so much. About it. So thank you so much. If martins wrong, says graham, why arent women playing for their country as as important as men . They have raised the profile enormously and they deserve respect for reaching the final. Here, here, dont go final. Here, here, dont go away. Weve got plenty more for you. First of all, lets catch up with the weather, the temperatures rising, boxt solar the proud sponsors of weather on. Gb news. Hello. Very good morning to you. Its Aidan Mcgivern here from the met office. Its a windy start to the day. And youll notice the humidity out there, even if its not especially sunny, that humidity , along with some instability courtesy of low pressure to the southwest , leading to the risk southwest, leading to the risk of thunderstorms across central and southern parts during the morning this morning could cause some impacts with frequent lightning and some intense bursts always, bursts of rain. But as always, these thunderstorms we hit and miss and they do tend to die away they push away as they push north eastwards the morning. Eastwards during the morning. Northern staying northern scotland staying fine. Southwest england largely fine as sunshine coming as well. Some sunshine coming through, but a lot of cloud and a wind, especially for a strong wind, especially for northwest 50mph wind northwest wales, 50mph wind gusts impact people gusts could impact people on their for example , their holidays. For example, then, well , it gets very lively then, well, it gets very lively overnight , a then, well, it gets very lively overnight, a band of heavy rain moves into southwestern areas that pushes into the rest of england. Its northern ireland, england. Its northern ireland, southern scotland. By midnight. Southern scotland. By midnight. And same time, theres and at the same time, theres the of some serious the risk of some serious thunderstorms developing across eastern england. Frequent lightning, intense lightning, large hail, intense outbreaks of rain. Its also outbreaks of rain. Its also going to be a windy night and a muqqy going to be a windy night and a muggy night, 18, 19 celsius across some parts of southern uk and mid to high teens, widely by dawn parts of the dawn across many parts of the country. Heavy, persistent rain then moves into parts of scotland , especially the north scotland, especially the north and the east. Further spells of rain showers across northern rain or showers across northern ireland. The rest of scotland, northern a quieter Northern England, a quieter picture rest of england Northern England, a quieter pict|wales. Rest of england Northern England, a quieter pict|wales. Sunnyt of england Northern England, a quieter pict|wales. Sunny spellsgland Northern England, a quieter pict|wales. Sunny spells andd and wales. Sunny spells and showers and large, and still showers by and large, and still some warmth that sun in the some warmth in that sun in the south east. Highs of 25 or 26 degrees. Degrees. The temperatures rising. Boxt the temperatures rising. Boxt solar proud sponsors of weather on gb news. Or. Or or. Or. Or. Or or. Or. Where or. Or or. Or. Where good morning. Its 7 00 on good morning. Its 7 00 on friday, the 18th of august. Today, the government has laid out steps to protect the use of cash across the country after news dont kill Cash Campaign reached over 300,000 signatures and was delivered to number 11. And, of course , tributes have and, of course, tributes have poured in after former talk show host and legendary journalist sir Michael Parkinson died at the age of 88. We will look back as this journey was one of the most famous, if not the most famous names in the uk. And will you pay for a jab to rewire your brain and reduce your addiction to alcohol . So Scientists Say the early stage tests on monkeys have been in incredibly effective. Incredibly effective. And of course , the weekend is and of course, the weekend is on the way. How the weather look this time is Aidan Mcgivern from the met office with your report i the humidity is rising. Low the humidity is rising. Low pressure is edging closer. Some very lively weather expected later today. Ill have more in the forecast. The forecast. Yeah, were going to see a lot of rain. So we all need cheering up. So welcome. Im anne diamond. And im Martin Daubney. And this is breakfast on gb news. Telling you about a really weird thing thats been happening and has been reported in the times today. I think weve got a picture. If you go out this weekend to one of those big sunflower meadows, sunflower meadows, big sunflower fields, apparently they are aware now that people have got a penchant for taking their clothes off and taking selfies in amongst the sunflowers , so much so that sunflowers, so much so that theyre having to put out warnings because families who are taking their children around the sunflower fields are finding that theyre getting more than they. Thats prompted they thought. Thats prompted some interesting stories from you. Thank some interesting stories from you. Thank you. Carol has you. Thank you. Carol has emailed in, she says not in a sunflower field , but my sunflower field, but my neighbours went to greece and they did a boat trip that ended up on a nudist beach. And as they walked up the beach , they they walked up the beach, they bumped into another neighbour, stood there in all his glory. They didnt where to tell they didnt know where to tell the to ive a the kids to look. Ive got a funny nudist beach story. Yeah. I was spain oh yeah . Yeah. I was in spain. My mama got an apartment there and we were driving around trying a supermarket and trying to find a supermarket and we german we strayed into this german nudist and people were nudist resort and people were Walking Around the streets with bags of shopping. Absolutely the whole resort. The whole resort. Then the shops and walkers, they stalkers walking they were stalkers Walking Around we came around a corner and we came around a corner and there was a bloke bends over , cleaning out his car full east augers. And i got a full view of his glove box and it was really , really startling. And then we went away quite shocked. And went away quite shocked. And next day i thought, should we go back . And so we went to the beach and i fully clothed. Yeah, but then no, but then got involved in the nudist. Oh, you did. And was so embarrassed. I did. And i was so embarrassed. I lay down for about four lay face down for about four hours and got totally sunburned on your back. I just couldnt. I just couldnt. I just couldnt. I couldnt go through with it. You know, i think people who say they stumble across nudist beaches telling beaches and maybe telling porkies. It all porkies. Dont you had it all planned. I dont think they planned. Yeah i dont think they stumble at all. I think theyre cunous stumble at all. I think theyre curious and go have look. Curious and go and have a look. All youve got nudist all right if youve got nudist beach story, keep it clean. Send it the football on sunday it in the football on sunday morning. My goodness. Thats morning. On my goodness. Thats dividing its also dividing people. Its also memories of my question to memories of 1966. My question to you is, is sunday morning as eventful a moment . You is, is sunday morning as eventful a moment . Is it as important as 1966 . Was he doesnt think so , janet says, doesnt think so, janet says, i was 8 in 1966, and in italy, camping with my family, we were one english family surrounded by local italians and germans. Also on holiday , the italians were on holiday, the italians were cheering for the england team. Im not a watcher of football , im not a watcher of football, just the national tournaments. And think this world cup is and i think this world cup is just as memento as 1966. Linda says. I agree with you, martin. In my opinion, the womens final is not on a par with the 1966 final. I have no interest in football, but i could name all of the players in that legendary 66 final. And its probably one of the only matches ive ever watched. I was 15 and we sat as a family. It was so exciting and such a great afternoon. But shes saying on par shes saying its not on par with the lionesses. No, i didnt watch it. But my best friend, her father, bought probably what was the first Colour Television in our town for that because he was a football referee. So hes very keen and i know he and the whole street were in their living room watching it and thought it was wonderful. I dont remember being interested at the time, tony says. When was a boy born tony says. When i was a boy born in 1962, until recently, it was unusual to hear of a ladys Team Anywhere near kids, both male and female. These days, find it completely to play completely normal to play football. The progress football. Thats the progress that football brought that football has brought people together friendships together and made friendships they would otherwise have they would never otherwise have known. Granddaughter, he known. My granddaughter, he says. Madeleine charlton plays and she loves it. Thats a good and she loves it. Thats a good name for a footballer, isnt it . Shes good too. He says. Shes really good too. He says. I she dreams of playing i hope she dreams of playing professional day. Knows professional one day. Who knows the point is she can dream of it now. Now. It is amazing that the lionesses have switched a lot of young girls. My daughters really shes really into football now. Shes nine. And it nine. She loves it and it absolutely is a great thing to switch girls on via this. Switch young girls on via this. But i just dont think its up there with the 66 final. Well thats your opinion that counts rather than his today gb views at gb news is sunday morning as important event views at gb news is sunday mo us1g as important event views at gb news is sunday mo us asas important event views at gb news is sunday mo us as a important event views at gb news is sunday mo us as a wholetant event views at gb news is sunday mo us as a whole nation event views at gb news is sunday mo us as a whole nation . Event views at gb news is sunday mo us as a whole nation . Really for us as a whole nation . Really as 1966 was . Okay, lets move on now to our top story this morning, gb news dont kill Cash Campaign is already yielding results. Already yielding results. Overnight, the treasury has announced plans to assure access to cash facilities. More than to cash facilities. More than 300,000 of you. And rising of sign up petition to save pounds sterling coins and banknotes from extinction and to slow the move towards a Cashless Society i well, yesterday gb news presenter delivered the petition in person to the treasury at number 11 downing street, and within a matter of hours they said they will require people and businesses to be no more than three miles away from a cash withdrawal machine or a deposit centre. And they will even give the Financial Conduct Authority powers to fine banks who dont comply with that. Who dont comply with that. And gb news is political ednon and gb news is political editor. The legendary Christopher Hope is live in downing street for us now, top of the morning to you. Chopper look, this is a great result for gb news. Literally overnight, just a few hours ago, nigel farage and the rest of the gb news crew were hammering on that door behind you. And already weve firm, firm action. Weve seen firm, firm action. How significant is this victory . 7. I . I think 7 i think its 7 i think its part . I think its part of the way theyre marching the campaign. Weve got dont kill cash is about the right to legal tender. Being able to spend money where you want to hard money because not all of us, lets face it, carry cards you can face it, carry cards and you can do through cash only. But do it through cash only. But what doing is what theyre doing here is theyre some measures in theyre using some measures in theyre using some measures in the services and the Financial Services and markets to require markets act 2023 to require people to be able to get hold of cash and have a for space that within three miles of anywhere in the country. My warning , in the country. My warning, though, on this is that that is the same requirement as for post offices. So theres 11,500 post offices. So theres 11,500 post offices around the country. Offices around the country. Legally, they must be within three miles of anyone, any Community Living here. That is all this change is doing overnight. It will require an access to cash within three miles. And i wonder whether banks could say, well, theres a post office there, therefore we need to provide a branch. So need to provide a branch. So while a good news, theres while its a good news, theres a warning there. I think that it doesnt go much further than the current status quo. This campaign on. Martin Campaign Must carry on. Martin thats interesting. Campaign must you say the Campaign Must carry weve got to be carry on. Weve got to be playing about it. Were not campaigning or the people whove already signed petition already signed the petition arent campaigning have arent campaigning to only have cash. Arent campaigning to only have cash. But cash should live cash. But cash should live alongside other forms of payment i exactly. Exactly. Exactly. Im glad you agree. Exactly. Im glad you agree. Thats im glad you agree. Thats quite right. Not everyone is. Well, no, not everyone is. Well, no, but youre right, of course, because not everyone is used to having a pin code and can remember the pin number and can use the card. And they like having cash is away often for many people to slow down spending. Certainly it if spending. I certainly find it if im holding a tenner, im less inclined spend it. If inclined to want to spend it. If its a digit on a on a pin reader, the money flies out of the pocket much quicker. So i think particularly now in a think in particularly now in a cost crisis, cash is cost of living crisis, cash is an important families to an important way for families to budget. Part of the budget. Thats part of the story. I think story. But i think that generally think it matters to generally i think it matters to be able to spend cash and have access shops chris tom in access in shops and chris tom in norfolk , isnt great point . Norfolk, isnt it a great point . Well i think great well say . I think its great that treasury said that they that the treasury said that they plan save cash, but please plan to save cash, but please dont a politicians dont fall for a politicians promise. Weve heard it so many promise. Weve heard it so many times before so putting it to times before. So putting it to you, chris, somebody who understands intimately how number works, theyre very number ten works, theyre very good adopting co opting or good at adopting or co opting or absorbing ideas that are effective for a quick win. But we need to keep the pressure appued we need to keep the pressure applied on this, dont we . We need to keep pushing on. Well, thats right. Ive been reading through the small print of the announcement this morning, and thats why im a bit concerned. It doesnt give us the full result that this campaign these people are campaign what these people are signing campaign what signing the campaign want, what we have , what they we do want to have, what they want is access cash in shops want is access to cash in shops and to legal but and access to legal tender. But all getting is the fact all theyre getting is the fact therell be silicon to withdraw money miles of money within three miles of anywhere this country, anywhere in this country, which is post office is all at the post Office Network gives them. But the language politicians today language from politicians today from , the senior from andrew griffith, the senior treasury minister, is very supportive of what this campaign is trying to do. But the heart, the small print isnt there yet. So dont yet. So tom in norfolk is correct. Hold you hold your horses on declaring victory. Before we say goodbye well, before we say goodbye to i just wanted to comment on the fact its great see the the fact its great to see the england outside number england bunting outside number 10, it, with the with the 10, isnt it, with the with the three lions. There and it just shows that , yeah. The spirit shows that, yeah. The spirit inside number 10 is at least showing faithful to the lionesses. Great stuff. Thanks lionesses. Great stuff. Thanks very much indeed forjoining us. Exactly right. Thank you. See see, yesterday they were hanging that bunting out and i thought, oh, how nice. And i thought it was for gb news nigel farage. I think it was a little welcome, but it wasnt for that. Of course, the lionesses and of course, its interesting to see 10 sort of declaring, see number 10 sort of declaring, you good you lionesses you know, good on you lionesses by hanging the bunting there. What we havent yet is what we havent heard yet is whether not Prince William is whether or not Prince William is going to go to sydney the going to go to sydney to see the final he is chairman of fifa. Yeah, but youve got a theory of the fa. Sorry, youve got a theory, of the fa. Sornyou uve got a theory, of the fa. Sornyou thinkiot a theory, of the fa. Sornyou think hestheory, of the fa. Sornyou think hes to zory, of the fa. Sornyou think hes to going though. You think hes to going rock up, dont you . Well, hes on holiday officially at the moment and we dont know on holiday dont know where hes on holiday and i think he was probably waiting lionesses waiting to see if the lionesses would in the and would get in to the final and then hell probably be making his way to sydney. Think he would it. I think he would do it. I think he would do it. Get so much stick if he you get so much stick if he doesnt. Its a very odd doesnt. Well, its a very odd thing he doesnt, because thing if he doesnt, because many people are pointing out he would turn up for if men had would turn up for if the men had got the mens world final. Got into the mens world final. Got to really hasnt so hes got to really hasnt he . Think he probably is on so hes got to really hasnt he . Wayink he probably is on so hes got to really hasnt he . Way already, robably is on so hes got to really hasnt he . Way already, but bly is on so hes got to really hasnt he . Way already, but he is on so hes got to really hasnt he . Way already, but he might go his way already, but he might go to final because its to the mens final because its just entertaining. Just more entertaining. Womens thats a no, the womens thats a no no, you see. You must not say that. No, you must not say that. No, you must not say that. Were just having fun with this. All morning. And youve certainly getting back to certainly been getting back to us is us in your droves. Is the womens game there with the womens game up there with the mens . Certainly them mens . Its certainly got them going. And the going. And yeah, and should the pubs opening early and pubs be opening early and allowed serve alcohol from allowed to serve alcohol from at least which kick off time . Yeah. Okay. Now lets talk about a man whos close to all of our hearts, which are breaking him this morning or breaking for him this morning or breaking for him this morning or breaking family breaking for his family because tributes pouring for sir tributes are pouring in for sir Michael Parkinson, one of britains most celebrated broadcasters and journalists. Hes 88. Broadcasters and journalists. He in 88. Broadcasters and journalists. He in a 88. Broadcasters and journalists. He in a legendary 88. Broadcasters and journalists. He in a Legendary Television in a legendary Television Career spanning seven decades, sir called parky sir michael fondly called parky by and fans and indeed by friends and fans and indeed most of the public became one of the greatest interviewers. If not all time. Not the greatest of all time. With long chat show. With his long running chat show. Interesting yeah, its interesting because all his famous programmes were always called parkinson, everyone called parkinson, but everyone called him were joined now in him parky. Were joined now in the studio by Stephanie Takyi. The studio by Stephanie Takyi. Hi stephanie, whos looking fabulous in your your are the only ray of sunshine at the moment. Yeah i mean hes a he is literally a National Treasure. Literally a National Treasure. He is and i think thats why people called him parky because i think that the nation had this affection for him at the height of parkinson , he was attracting of parkinson, he was attracting up to 17 Million Viewers watching his interviews because nobody in television gets that anymore, because there are more channels, basically. And know, tim davie, the and you know, tim davie, the head the bbc, said that, head of the bbc, he said that, you know, he is the king of he was the king of chat, but also he precedent for tv he set the precedent for tv interviews that a lot of presenters have been following. Presenters have been following. Know, through and, you know, through tributes, said is tributes, people have said he is a off. Think youll be a one off. I think youll be hard replicate his style , his hard to replicate his style, his authenticity his charm. Sir. Authenticity and his charm. Sir. Rod stewart says that in all of his career, hes hated tv interviews. But he said with parky , he just looked forward to parky, he just looked forward to their chats because he was authentic. Both on screen and off screen. Yeah. What you saw on screen was what got in real life. Was what you got in real life. And sir David Attenborough said the same thing. Was like being he said it was like being interviewed by friend and interviewed by a friend and i think that really his think that was really his success, people could success, that people could relate him because when you relate to him because when you think about celebrity interviews, theyre interviews, these days, theyre very celebs always very salacious celebs always have their back up because they dont which way its going dont know which way its going to a knack to go. But he just had a knack of being natural for tame of being natural for him to tame the tiger that is muhammad ali. And theyre having a verbal span and theyre having a verbal spar. Itsjust and theyre having a verbal spar. Its just incredible. Tv andifs spar. Its just incredible. Tv and its tv gold that i can imagine. The bbc now going through the archive of 2000 plus interviews. Theres a lot there. Interviews. Theres a lot there. Weve got a lovely picture of you meeting was that occasion . So he actually written a book about his time interviewing muhammad because there was muhammad ali because there was that famous interview he did with but actually stayed with him, but he actually stayed in with muhammad in touch with muhammad ali over the the interview. The years since the interview. He interviewed again quite he interviewed him again quite a few was yeah, four few times. So it was yeah, four times. So it was based on that interaction. We got that picture of with parky and thats of you with parky and thats what i think of you as well. And yeah, in meantime, we and yeah, in the meantime, we havent at the moment. Havent got it at the moment. Show them bit later. Well show them a bit later. Well show them a bit later. The thing that i just adored about him is he was a proper journalist. Started the journalist. He started on the local yorkshire. He was local press in yorkshire. He was in journalism, the in cricket journalism, then the manchester the Manchester Guardian, then the observer, times. Observer, then the sunday times. And about him writing and the thing about him writing about as always wrote about sport, as he always wrote about sport, as he always wrote about his barnsley and about his beloved barnsley and always stayed in touch. And they had they had a minute silence for Michael Parkinson yesterday , sir Michael Parkinson yesterday, sir Michael Parkinson yesterday, sir Michael Parkinson yesterday. And also they said it felt like theyve lost one of their sons and he was very passionate about cricket as well. Actually before wanting to be a journalist, he wanted cricketer, so he wanted to be a cricketer, so he really brought lot the game really brought a lot to the game and just had that warm and he just had that warm northern hospitality. Northern hospitality. I think we have that picture of you with porky . Yeah , thats a lovely one. Yeah, thats a lovely one. Youre wearing the same colour. Yeah, definitely. Been quite i think hes been quite inspirational in my career in terms of, you know, think a terms of, you know, i think a lot showbiz a bad rep of lot of showbiz gets a bad rep of just being gossip, but he just being about gossip, but he actually bought it. Credibility in that, you know, as a journalist, you get good journalist, you can get good interviews with celebrities and good but he wasnt just good stories. But he wasnt just about the celebrity. He interviewed walks of life. Interviewed all walks of life. Well, shall we speak now to barry taylor, whos honorary life president of Barnsley Football Club. And a very good morning to you. A sad morning. I mean, he but he lived a great life, i must say. What are your thoughts this morning . Thoughts this morning . Well, first of all, Barnsley Football Club is sad because my uncle was a great supporter and a friend of football club. And a friend of football club. And its just condolences go to all the family. Its just condolences go to all the family. Its its just condolences go to all the family. Its such a sad the family. Its such a sad occasion. It michael was a one occasion. It michael was a one character, a great writer , a character, a great writer, a barnsley legend from cudworth. Kudos for the local lad. Its a sad loss. And he once told me his greatest sporting achievement at the age of 17 was when he kept Geoffrey Boycott out of the barnsley cricket team. He then added that boycott was 12 at the time and think about think about porky barry is that even when he got onto the national stage, he always kept writing about barnsley. It was something that was very passionate about yorkshire cricket. He once turned down an invite to go to the playboy mansion instead to play cricket in yorkshire on a village green. That was a guy who never lost touch with his roots. Touch with his roots. Thats true. I mean, i thats true. I mean, i started watching barnsley when michael was writing for the boundary chronicle, and he always talking about skinner , always talking about skinner, normanton, johnny kelly, danny blanchflower, tommy taylor , blanchflower, tommy taylor, duncan sharpe. He met in many times when barnsley played redding, of course, and did use a child in that he was a season ticket. Redding but also met in many times when barnsley played at wembley. And we always had at wembley. And we always had good conversations about his early barnsley days. It was an absolute brilliant person to meet. I suppose its a silly thing to say about somebody who is now celebrated for his being king of chat, but he was very , very easy chat, but he was very, very easy to speak to, wasnt he . And to to speak to, wasnt he . And to have an ordinary conversation with it wasnt like having a conversation with with a celebrity. He just conversation with with a celebrity. He just made it just an ordinary chit chat. No thats exactly what he would like. Exactly what he would like. I mean, i only met him at football matches, but we you as soon as he saw me straight in about barnsley. About barnsley. Yeah. And remembered names and faces from past and present didnt he. Didnt he. That was his best it could remember names. That was one of his things that he could remember. Everybody and you know, straight on. Hello barry. How are you . Oh, Michael Parkinson. You know barry , we parkinson. You know barry, we understood there was a minute silence before the match. And what was the mood amongst the terraces and the fans . What people saying to you about hockey . Hockey . Well, were not the matches tomorrow, actually, so i dont know where that thats come from. There will probably be a minutes silence tomorrow before the match at barnsley. The match at barnsley. What are people saying in the community, in the Barnsley Community, in the Barnsley Community about porky to you . Community about porky to you . Well, they all think the same. I mean , the people of my same. I mean, the people of my age , of course, remember him age, of course, remember him through his career, through the bouncy chronicle, the Manchester Guardian. You know, they just guardian. You know, they just remember him all his life. And the fact that it was from a village and he never, ever forgot that it it was just a good person to meet and speak to. Yeah. He was the son and the grandson of a miner didnt go down the pit himself and went with two o levels. Its a wonder he made it into any profession at all. But he did. And he proved himself for the rest of his life, didnt he really did. And Barnsley Football Club. Its a wonderful provincial town club, but he never forgot it. And he always mentioned it. It was wonderful. Was wonderful. He always dropped it in there, didnt he . But it said that he was more keen on cricket. I dont know. Is that right . Well, yes. And you should tell him the story about opening at Barnsley Cricket Club with geoff boy. No with nicky bird and if you. If i once saw him and if you. If i once saw him and dickie bird to give a show at one of the local hotels and dickie bird was so funny, michael had got tears running down his cheeks. It was one of a fantastic evening with both of them speaking about cricket. Them speaking about cricket. Well, like we were saying, its sad to note his death, but that was a heck of a life, wasnt it . And youve got so many lovely memories to thank you so much forjoining us. Its lovely to talk to you. Yeah barry taylor, their honorary life president of barnsley football. Oh yeah. On that football club. Oh yeah. On that sort of note, i catch up with the weather. Shall we . A brighter outlook with boxt solar proud sponsors of weather on. Gb news. On. Gb news. Hello. Very good morning to you. Its Aidan Mcgivern here from the met office. Its a windy start to the day and youll notice the humidity out there , even if its not there, even if its not especially sunny, that humidity along with some instability courtesy of low pressure to the southwest , leading to the risk southwest, leading to the risk of thunderstorms across central and southern parts during the morning this morning could cause some impacts with frequent lightning and some intense bursts always, bursts of rain. But as always, these thunderstorms we hit and miss die miss and they do tend to die away as push north away as they push north eastwards the morning. Eastwards during the morning. Northern scotland staying fine. Southwest fine southwest england largely fine as some sunshine coming as well. Some sunshine coming through lot of cloud and through, but a lot of cloud and a strong especially for a strong wind, especially for northwest 50 per northwest wales. 50 mile per hour wind gusts could impact people on their holidays. For example, it gets example, then, well, it gets very lively overnight , example, then, well, it gets very lively overnight, a band of heavy rain moves into southwest areas that pushes into the rest of england , into northern of england, into northern ireland, southern scotland by midnight. At ireland, southern scotland by midnight. At same time, midnight. And at the same time, theres risk of some serious theres the risk of some serious thunderstorms developing across eastern large hail in tents, lightning, large hail in tents, outbreaks of rain. Its also outbreaks of rain. Its also going to be a windy night and a muggy night, 18, 19 celsius across some parts of southern uk and mid to high teens, widely by dawn many parts of the dawn across many parts of the country. Heavy, persistent rain then moves into parts of scotland, especially the north and east. Further spells of and the east. Further spells of rain or showers across northern ireland. The rest of scotland, Northern England, a quieter picture rest of england picture for the rest of england and wales. Sunny spells and showers and large, and still showers by and large, and still some warmth in that sun in the southeast at highs of 25 or 26 degrees. Degrees. A brighter outlook with boxt solar proud sponsors of weather on. Gb news we go. On. Gb news we go. Okay, plenty more to come. Okay, plenty more to come. But before that came back to us a little bit chop there for people youre not meant to see, but thats all right. Yeah. No, were not. Were on there. We want air chaps. Were still on air. So excited about getting involved in todays food. But look, before we go to quality , look, before we go to quality, lets talk about pubs on sunday because we asked you, should the pubs open the lionesses . And pubs open for the lionesses . And it seems a unanimous. It just seems a unanimous. Yes, granville and bristol says, sunday any says, why is sunday any different a weekday or a different to a weekday or a saturday . Aspect of every other aspect of business freely a business operates freely on a sunday. Antiquated laws sunday. These antiquated laws need updating. Brian i know about this. And brian i know about this. Bnan and brian i know about this. Brian pubs in my area southend on sea are open at 10 am. Why did the licensees not apply for a special licence at those pubs at 10 am. In southend . Theyre quite lively. The only trouble is if you do have to apply for a special licence. Now youve only got today do it. I would have today to do it. I would have thought leon portsmouth says yes, pubs be allowed thought leon portsmouth says yes, early be allowed thought leon portsmouth says yes, early in be allowed thought leon portsmouth says yes, early in our be allowed thought leon portsmouth says yes, early in our free allowed to open early in our free Society Great british society. Its a Great British tradition. Yeah. Tradition. Yeah. And dawn is all for saying cheers. Lionesses do. Shes cheers. The lionesses do. Shes saying this is massive saying this is a massive entertainment the entertainment event. Yes. The pub be open early. They pub should be open early. They were open london were open for the london marathon. Marathon. Well, yeah, thats the point. Youve been us your views youve been giving us your views on whether sunday morning for the lionesses World Cup Final is as big as 1966. Itll be interesting to put that to paul coyte after the break for the welcome back. 7 26. Youre watching and listening to breakfast with and martin yeah, well weve got loads of views coming in and the women the womens football , the lionesses womens football, the lionesses final course on sunday, 11 00. Is it as important as 1966 . Its absolutely got them going berserk. Russell makes a very interesting point. Yeah thank you, russell. The womens world cup is far more important than the last 1966 world cup as womens football is in its infancy and has already raised the interest to millions of women and young girls. Thats an women and young girls. Thats an interesting point. I think the pubs are already open for russell. I think hes already had a couple. I mean, come on, lets get this into perspective. Massive perspective. Its a massive game, was the all time game, but 66 was the all time pinnacle look of a long time ago i yeah, it is. We could do the victory. I do agree. Belinda says this. Why is the uk not behind the lionesses as they have been for the world cups . Quite the men in world cups . Quite simply, weve been by simply, weve been let down by mens football in every major championship the 60s. Its championship since the 60s. Its a fair point. Yeah, she said. Yeah, she said. Its hard to get motivated behind women, as the men behind the women, as the men have said, bar have already said, failure bar quite low. Mm well, theres quite low. Mm well, theres a lot to talk about here, so shall we put this to paul coyte, who joins us now in the studio . So i put the same question. Me then the same question ive been putting all morning to everybody listening and watching is sunday morning womens World Cup Final as important a moment to you as 1966 . To me , i was to you as 1966 . Tome,|wasa to you as 1966 . To me , i was a year out from to me, i was a year out from 66, but i dont think it is. I think its extreme important. Yes. For Different Reasons. But the thing is, youve got to look at the Different Reasons. Like you said just now, its very important for womens football, hugely important. For womens football, hugely important. Theres for womens football, hugely important. Theres either important. Theres either important. Theres either important or is it is the occasion bigger if you think 1966, the world cup was here, so it was being held . Yeah and again, it took a while for everybody to buy into. I remember speaking to geoff hurst about this and he said that at the time, although we now look back and think it was the greatest moment in our sporting history at the time when the when the group games were going, people werent paying as much attention as people thought they may be. If we look back now by the time england got to the semi final and then they got to the final, then the whole country was interested. Weve seen that for years anyway. Yes, early days. Were seeing it now. We were seeing it now. We were seeing it now. Also the fact exactly. And also the fact that over in australia. That its over in australia. I think it makes a difference. The fact that it is early in the morning and people are less likely. If you at likely. I mean, if you look at the i think the reaction the euros, i think the reaction to lionesses in the euros is to the lionesses in the euros is bigger actually seeing the bigger than actually seeing the world now, although world cup now, although obviously think obviously i disagree. I think cup its sunday, its in the morning. That means families can watch together on sunday morning and we can all be excited because weve got the day off anyway to watch it. Sure. I think its bigger. Well but sorry, you say you World Cup Final. You say the World Cup Final. I love fact. But but the i love the fact. But but the thing it doesnt thing is, it doesnt really matter time is. Families matter what time it is. Families would be together if it would still be together if it was in the evening. Wed be watching it together. I dont think the whole think that makes the whole situation think that makes the whole situatio come on. Oh, come on. Oh, come on. 1966 was only against west germany. But that actually 1966 was only against west germany. But that actually was well, but that actually was was reason the final was a huge reason why the final became so significant. It was only like less than 20 years after to war ended and it after the to war ended and it became, mention became, you know, dont mention the did become. The war. It did become. On, thats nothing to do come on, thats nothing to do with it. Absolutely. Absolutely. Was that it . Was that it . Was. Absolutely was. Absolutely was. It was the first major world cup between england cup final between england and germany war. It germany just after the war. It took a significance beyond took on a significance beyond the and it brought the match and it brought everyone said, everyone together. As you said, people buying tvs their street. I mean, first time we got so excited about it in 66 that they even persuaded the to even persuaded the queen to actually watch and watch actually watch it go and watch it wembley and football it in wembley and football was never it in wembley and football was nevand of course, and then and of course, and then theres the famous moment there with queen hands over with the queen hands over the world bobby moore wipes his world cup. Bobby moore wipes his hand shakes her. Hand before he shakes her. I mean, thats thing. This is mean, thats the thing. This is down legend the it down in legend and the reason it is legend because weve only is legend is because weve only won world once. Won the world cup once. Well, thats what i was going to say. Thats we germans you thats why we germans you could up any time that its could pick up any time that its my were making it my argument were making it bigger morning bigger than sunday morning because since because it hasnt happened since 66. Im not even its only a legend because it was so long ago. Im not even comfortable with the fact that we can even compare i mean, ill be compare the two. I mean, ill be honest you. Know i know honest with you. I know i know were said, well, is it this or is it that . Its a fantastic thing done. And thing that we have done. And since since the this this since 2015, since the this this is when people started really paying is when people started really paying attention to the womens game, world and how the game, the world cup and how the lionesses did. And suddenly people the lionesses people call them the lionesses 2019 the euros and the 2019 and then the euros and the thing is, were now turning into the in the game , whereas the force in the game, whereas always its been the United States because america saw it more as a girls game in football or soccer as they would call over there. And so now weve moved in like its Getting Better and better. So its hugely important to us. But but yeah, is true. Both of you yeah, it is true. Both of you guys saying its basically guys are saying its basically not as important because its women. Women. P e true and thats thats not true and thats patronising. Patronising. Its not true. I never said that. But theyre playing. Come on. Theyre playing a sport to a world standard here. If were other sport youd if it were any other sport youd be them completely be lauding them completely as long you see, yeah, but you and you see, yeah, but you see it a as a mens thing. See it as a as a mens thing. And, you know, frankly, the women have transgressed into a mens thing. Women have transgressed into a me i s thing. Women have transgressed into a me i dont g. Women have transgressed into a me i dont think so and i dont think that so and honestly, you as well be honestly, you might as well be kicking the while kicking me under the desk while youre doing this. And i spent all week saying how ive how important it is. And ive been very much behind it and but only with everybody is. But youre only saying that thats easy thing to say is thats the easy thing to say is to well, see, the thing to go, oh, well, see, the thing is, football supporters, is, men and football supporters, they it right. They dont look at it right. Thats not fair. And thats not fair. And thats not fair. And thats not fair. And putting down and im not putting down womens football uniquely because there no no. Because there is no no. Just want make that i just want to make that clear because also think the clear because i also think the blokes better. Blokes tennis is better. Move on quickly. Moving lets move on quickly. Moving on because england are now so successful. Sorry, having a wobbly sorry, im having a wobbly now. I cant believe it. Now. On i cant believe it. The lionesses now the lionesses are now successful. Theyre successful. Of course theyre swooping try and nick the swooping in to try and nick the gaffer. Your top here. Gaffer. Your top story here. This is this is well, again, this is this is a story which dont think a story which i dont think i think hes sort of based in a very small amount of truth. Sanna very small amount of truth. Sarina wiegman, of course. And she and shes she has been amazing and shes a fantastic talking fantastic manager. Were talking to redknapp show to Harry Redknapp on the show yesterday and i just want to know how much and how important it youve got. Is it is that youve got. Is a manager purely about what theyre their football theyre about, their football nous . About how they nous . Or is it about how they deal players . And her, deal with players . And with her, its pretty much everything. Shes got whole team shes got the whole team together. Mark bullingham together. And so Mark Bullingham , whos the chief executive of the he was asked the fa, he was asked the question, know, would there question, you know, would there be a possibility that she could then the mens side . Then take over the mens side . Hes not going to go. No, no. Hes not going to go. No, no. Hes going to say, well, of course its a possibility. So then everybody would jump on it and oh, shes to be and go, oh, shes going to be the bench. And go, oh, shes going to be the bench. Its very the next bench. Its very unlikely. Then also, unlikely. But then also, the other that said id be other thing that he said id be interested what think interested in what you think about say that its about this and to say that its well, its disrespectful. Its not a step up. We dont see as a step to mens game. Now step up to the mens game. Now that is where would say that that is where i would say it be. It would be. You see, thats where i dont think fair. Think thats fair. Okay. There i would. Ill give you that. But weve spent so time that. So much time on that. And obviously this very and obviously this is very important everybody watching and obviously this is very im well. It everybody watching and obviously this is very im well. It we erybody watching and obviously this is very im well. It we eryboto watching and obviously this is very im well. It we eryboto hearhing and obviously this is very im well. It we eryboto hear your as well. So we want to hear your views on this. So its gb views at news. Can we briefly talk at gb news. Can we briefly talk about tsitsipas the b . About tsitsipas and the b . I know how bizarre is this . I know how bizarre is this . This is tennis player, obviously. So, yeah, this is Stefanos Tsitsipas is in tsitsipas and this is in cincinnati yesterday. It its the southern, western the its the southern, western and open. Shes playing and southern open. Shes playing ben american ben shelton whos an american tennis tsitsipas tennis player. Anyway, tsitsipas walks over to serve and hes got his tennis right here. He starts swatting because i think , you swatting because i think, you know, what is it there a, b, theres a fly. Hes hearing a buzzing noise , looks around, buzzing noise, looks around, cant see anything. Anyway theres a theres a spectator sitting behind going because this is every time hes got to put him off, every time he every time hes going to every time hes going to serve. So he hears it. Then hes going to serve. So he hears it. Then he goes over. He goes over to the umpire, says its a person over there and the umpire is like, well, dont know what is like, well, i dont know what to do. Ive never seen this before. And tsitsipas you saying, ive never had to saying, well, ive never had to play saying, well, ive never had to play this . Dont play against this . Well, i dont think anybodys someone think anybodys had someone making noise gone over making a buzzing noise gone over to hes pointing out to the crowd. Hes pointing out hes. Was it. Theres hes. Which one was it. Theres a sitting behind. Now look, a guy sitting behind. Now look, its there, i think in its the woman there, i think in the for those of the bottom right for those of the bottom right for those of the were pretty the radio, were just pretty much a picture of much its just a picture of a few spectators. Theres a guy thats behind actual thats sitting behind the actual three without three pointed down without saying they go, its her. It was that wanted her that one. So he wanted her thrown out and the umpire said, look, no, im not going to throw it out. Could you please keep quiet making buzzing noises for those who cant see pitch is those who cant see the pitch is the in the black and yellow the one in the black and yellow stripes with the big antennae. The one. Shes the one. Shes the one. Was asked to apologise to she was asked to apologise to him think she did. Him and i think she did. I think yeah. I think so. Yeah. I think so. Yeah. So. Right. I think so. Yeah. Im right. I think so. Yeah. Im really sorry for making noise. I hope it doesnt start, you know, a thing. I dont know. That would be actually good fun. I liked it. Your favourite noise. Your favourite insect noise. Trying to put off your players. Can you imagine how roy would have coyote, have reacted . Well coyote, youve ruffle a few youve come in and ruffle a few feathers. Done. Thats what. Thats. You know what . Do what i you know what . You do what i can. Know, im really can. You know, im really excited about sunday, but seriously, its huge. Cant seriously, its huge. We cant say huge it it is enormous. Say how huge it it is enormous. Well the pub well all be down the pub then. Obviously we can get obviously whether we can get a dnnk obviously whether we can get a drink or not is another. Yeah, thats another, thats another issue entirely. To him win i just want to see him win and think they will. And i think they will. I suppose after all that, we ought take a break. Up next, ought to take a break. Up next, all news stories all the other news stories making breakfast 7 39. Or does that make it 21 minutes to eight . Both. Yeah okay. Welcome back. Youre watching and listening to breakfast with anne and martin. Before we get into the papers, can i just read out one of our lovely views this morning . Michelle thank you, michelle. She said it was my first birthday in 1966 on the day of the world cup and my godmother, whos my cousin, got married that day. My dad said all the men were furious. Yes. So they were all outside the church listening the radio. Needless listening to the radio. Needless to though, a very to say, though, it was a very good party. Terry, thanks for and terry, thanks for agreeing me on one. Agreeing with me on this one. What made 66 special was that it was against the old enemy, germany. If was against the old enemy, germany. If this game if this game the lionesses was against germany, might argue germany, then you might argue that it germany, then you might argue thatitis germany, then you might argue that it is more important, but its not. So terry is making the for case its who youre playing against that makes it. You you cant say no, you cant. You cant say that. The 1966 was a very long time ago, as the war. Its time ago, as was the war. Its about weve probably about time. Weve probably stopped talking about the two when comes to football. When it comes to football. Should the papers should we go through the papers now, whats inside them . Now, see whats inside them . Joining morning, is joining us this morning, news is senior commentator senior political commentator nigel nelson and writer and commentator candace holdsworth. And thank you much for and thank you very much for joining again. So were joining us again. So were kicking off nigel with an own goal sun. Goal in the sun. And what the sun is indeed. And what the sun is saying sunak and saying is that rishi sunak and Prince William have decided that they wont be going to the World Cup Final in australia. Cup final in australia. They actually announced that and said that. Or is that just the sun thinking that the sun seems to be pretty certain thats whats going to happen. So , i mean, i think that its so, i mean, i think that its unlikely they would go actually. I mean, i cant quite see where where rishi sunak was sticking in his diary and according to the is actually the sun, william is actually worried increasing worried about increasing his Carbon Footprint by flying. Oh, Carbon Footprint by flying. Oh, heck, 9500 miles down there. But as we said earlier, if this is the biggest football occasion for this country since 1966, then the future king and the Prime Minister ought to be there and the future king being president , and the future king being president , chairman of the far. Yeah, yeah, he should be there. Yes. So on on that basis there, ill bet you if this was taking place at wembley, you wouldnt be able to keep them away. If it was the mens final, they would be there 100. They need to go. I think they should be there. If youre going to if the trade Carbon Emissions the trade offs, Carbon Emissions versus recognising womens sports, you choose recognising womens sports, you choose recognising worthe s sports, you choose recognising worthe queen spain is going, the queen of spain is going, isnt she . Yes, thats right. I think shes taking her daughter. And i think that think its really important that when the team, her team look up at stands, see their at the stands, theyll see their queen them. Queen there supporting them. Yes. When our team are looking up the stands, who are they up at the stands, who are they going see . Up at the stands, who are they goiithey see . Up at the stands, who are they goiithey think its this mother, they think its this mother, lucy. Frazer, the culture secretary. Yeah. Who yeah. Who theyre making a choice between either appearing sexist or planet. Thats or damaging the planet. Thats where were at. Its a hierarchy of grievances. Oh, Prince William is playing it clever and waiting till theres an outcry that Prince William might not be there, and therefore justify therefore, that would justify him his Carbon Footprint in him and his Carbon Footprint in flying quickly. Flying quickly. Well, got a day to go well, weve got a day to go where they could change their mind. It needs to be on that plane now, doesnt he, really . He might in like at he might parachute in like at the. Okay, lets move the olympics. Okay, lets move on, candice, to a more serious story, but one that i think is well overdue to let professionals help and the metropolitan police are to stop attending Mental Health call outs. Outs. Yes. So this has just been announced that the police are going focus more on fighting going to focus more on fighting crime and theyre going to leave helping people in Mental Health crisis to medical professionals. So this is based on a pilot scheme that took place in humberside called right care, right person. And they believe it could free up as much as 10,000 hours for policemen. And while lot of people have said while a lot of people have said its better for people its actually better for people who need help because a lot of police arent Trained Police officers arent trained in those situations, they dont necessarily know how calm the necessarily know how to calm the situation down, whereas someone whos medically trained does. Whos medically trained does. And interested in this and im so interested in this because a very close Family Member mine suffered from member of mine suffered from psychosis and one of the issues is, is if you dont have a properly trained person to help you, it can make the psychosis. So much worse. You need someone calm, empathy. I just calm, kind, empathy. I just hope, though , that the nhs is hope, though, that the nhs is able to provide the resources because theres nothing scarier than when youve got a Family Member youre worried about them. You call for help and its not coming. Well, its almost as though we another emergency we need another emergency service. Because this service. Yes, because this is becoming big problem. Yes becoming such a big problem. Yes you paramedics who you know, like paramedics who are Mental Health. Are just Mental Health. Yeah , yeah, yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And isnt this nigel, and isnt this also, nigel, about allocation of about the allocation of resources that speak to resources that we speak to police time . Who are police all the time . Who are frustrated they have now frustrated that they have now become Mental Health become a sort of Mental Health social service and it means that their resources arent able to be on things like clearing be spent on things like clearing up than 6 of burglaries. Yeah, but i still think that because police are obviously the first on the scene in certain circumstances, say for Domestic Abuse or Something Like that, where mental issues could where Mental Health issues could be a part. I where Mental Health issues could be a part. I think its be playing a part. I think its a bit sad that the police dont have some Mental Health training. Know, as first aid as. You know, as first aid as Mental Health, first aid as they would be the first there to try and deal with it. Im not suggesting that they have to become huge experts in the subject, should be for subject, and it should be for the professionals to take the real professionals to take over that. But i think the over after that. But i think the initial police could help. But i think annas points are really a good one. If we had like a Mental Health task force that were called out when theres incidence of theres a clear incidence of a pubuc theres a clear incidence of a public psychosis, the police arent equipped or arent equipped to train or train. Train. How noney train. How money would it take how much money would it take to train entire going to to train up an entire going to be difficult. An entirely new be difficult. An entirely new sort of emergency service. But wheres problem, wheres the problem, nigel . Theres row theres another trans row happening in a curious sport for the issue. I think. But actually one is really interesting to debate. Debate. Absolutely. And this is well, i think this is just weird, but its the International Chess federation and thats the Games International governing body. And what theyve ruled is that trans gender women shouldnt be allowed to compete in matches as women. So thats biological. Men cant compete against biological, which is another way of putting it. Yes. Yes. You could say say that. But no, i understand. And why you no, i understand. And why you dont you dont allow trans women to compete in cycling. It women to compete in cycling. It makes sense that the olympics are reviewing this when it comes to track and field events, because were talking about strength and basically different, different biological bodies. And i can see that that in tennis you do the same thing where strength is required. Where strength is required. Cant quite see why chess should actually come into this. Right . So before we go to can this, i think this is the right thing to do. And i know ive been ive been sexist all morning about not but you know, i think the mens footballs better than the womens in this instance. I think this is instance. I also think this is the decision because we the right decision because we have accept if there are have to accept if there are physiologic differences between men there are no men men and women, there are no men are stronger, are there cerebral differences are typically across a population. Mens brains more inclined to be at the higher end and the lower end. And therefore, when you look at the pattern of chess grandmasters , pattern of chess grandmasters, theyre almost entirely men. There has to be a reason for that. So it was stand to reason that. So it was stand to reason that a biological man with a mans brain playing against a woman could have an advantage. I dont know. I dont know how you disaggregate those factors from , say, social and factors from, say, social and cultural factors. For me, it comes down to how do you define a woman . Is it on the basis of biology or is it a legally defined term . And for me, its a biological thing. You are a biological thing. You are a biological female didnt know biological female. I didnt know as were discussing earlier, as we were discussing earlier, that were different that there were even different categories and women in categories for men and women in chess. Never encountered chess. Ive never encountered that you watch the that before. If you watch the brilliant series the Queens Gambit on netflix, or if you read the book, what they explore in that is actually for a lot of women, they werent even considered to be as good as men. You were. A brilliant you were. You were a brilliant woman, you were a mans woman, but you were in a mans world. That was a big world. And that was a big challenge for female chess players probably still is. Players and probably still is. Extraordinary to it does seem extraordinary to me. Not that the me. I did not know that the chess game to be segregated. Chess game had to be segregated. You championship you have womens championship and championship. And a mens championship. Therefore, therefore therefore, that therefore obviously states that women, women and men have different brain needs to cope with the game of chess. Brain needs to cope with the game of chess. But is that true . Game of chess. But is that true . Do they . Well, its a huge scientific row thats been raging for decades. Row thats been raging for decades. And the fact is, even decades. And the fact is, even if we dont know the answer, then surely we should allow women , you know, the chance not women, you know, the chance not to be beaten unfairly by. But. Martin arent you suggesting that that men are better at playing chess than women . In other words, men are more intelligent when it comes to a chess board . No, im not saying that. What im saying is if you look at the sort of higher functioning autistic aspergers type brains , they typically across entire populations tend to be affect men more. And some of those people have an incredible , people have an incredible, extraordinary ability to play chess. Extraordinary ability to play chess. Thats what im saying. Chess. Thats what im saying. And typically more men are in that spectrum. And if you look that spectrum. And if you look across the historical realms, there are more male chess grandmasters as a consequence of that. So the debate is of their brains hardwired different . We dont know the answer. But what dont know the answer. But what im saying is if there is a grey area, they should be segregated and allow women to have a fair chance. Thats all im saying. Chance. Thats all im saying. Its fascinating. But as you say, we actually dont know. We dont have the evidence to be able to prove or disprove it. But it is interesting. Were going have it there going to have to leave it there at thanks very much at the moment. Thanks very much indeed. You in less indeed. See you again in less than an hour. Ive got a wee bit of breaking news for you. Retail figures apparently 1. 2 figures apparently fell by 1. 2 last thats according to last month. Thats according to the ons. The official official, the ons. The official official, the office for national statistics. I cant say it. Statistics. I cant say it. Statistics. I cant say it. Statistics its believed the unusual wet weather pushed shoppers online instead of us all going out to the Shopping Centre and lugging shopping around for ourselves. But anyway, there you go. Thats just of the latest news for just sort of the latest news for you very believable you that is very believable because course when its wet, because of course when its wet, we just staying. Yeah. Em e hopefully w hopefully yeah. A temporary hopefully yeah. A temporary blip. Hopefully yeah. A temporary blip. Okay. Ully just a temporary blip. Okay. Now a really now heres a really interesting one. Is there a cure for alcoholism . An injection into the brain . Could reduce the amount alcoholic drink by 90. And thats according to a recent study thats at the moment still being done on monkeys. But apparently the early trials are amazing. Amazing. Yes. On rhesus monkeys, an astonishing early trials which use a treatment for parkinsons disease to reset the brains pleasure. Pathways have been incredibly effective. The drug incredibly effective. The drug could help alcoholics to reduce their drinking and to avoid relapses. I mean, is this the precious thing that weve all been praying for . Lets speak now to david bremner, whos medical director at turning point. A director at turning point. A very good morning to you, david. I mean, this does sound like very good news. Can you explain the science to us a little . The science to us a little . Well, first of all, thank you for having me on. Its always great to come and talk about the issues that people with alcohol dependence face. Um, this is a very small study in eight monkeys, so i think we need to have guarded optimism about this. But what their hypothesising is that they are able to modify how a person with a genetic propensity to alcohol dependence. We actually alcohol dependence. We actually experience the pleasure of drinking and we know we know that alcoholism and alcohol dependence is very strongly genetically linked. Adopt studies have proven this. So studies have proven this. So its of great value to start looking at a treatment system that focuses on that particular area of how people become alcohol dependent. It is in its infancy. It is in monkeys. We are by no way suggesting that people with alcohol dependence are going to have injections in their brains. But any focus on treatment and potential remedies for alcohol dependence is welcomed by the alcohol treatment industry. So, david, when you understand the addictive cycle of alcohol, theres the huge rush of endorphins, the brain gets when it when it wants something, anything that its addicted to. Addicted to. And theres also the anxiety of not having it, which point of that cycle, if you like, or is it just the alcohol coming in and the effect it has on the brain . At which point does this injection kind of interfere with that process . That process . Well, this this this the hypothesis here is that it interferes with that peak of pleasure that that people characteristically feel. I think characteristically feel. I think that when i can remember as a youngster , if i wanted something youngster, if i wanted something from a parent, i would from my dad in particular, id wait till he had had his second drink. Then id ask him because my dad was not an alcoholic. I was able to see that alcohol will to affect his judgement. However, affect his judgement. However, any of us see old episodes of dallas, for example , we can see dallas, for example, we can see how sue ellen in those experiences, she would experiences, she would experience that peak immediately. And what what we see in people who are alcohol dependence is a very different response to that initial sip of alcohol. And this is what that study is, is hoping to remedy the drug. To remedy the drug. Sorry, david, i dont think you heard me. Is it a particular drug thats being injected . Drug thats being injected . Well, in this study, its a particular protein thats been injected into these monkeys brains to as part of their treatment for parkinsonism. But treatment for parkinsonism. But its a protein that adjusts the neural pathway that the patient that the monkey then uses for that the monkey then uses for that Pleasure Centre. So its yes, its a particular protein that theyre injecting. Its fascinating because previous treatments , of course, previous treatments, of course, have introduced feelings of nausea or make people feel ill when they take alcohol. When they take alcohol. But this by directly interfering with the pleasure principle. I assume would make people think, well, whats the point . Drinking if im not getting anything out of it . So therefore, the giving up of therefore, for the giving up of alcohol becomes a voluntary process ceases to process because it ceases to become effective, seems to become effective, it seems to have merit on paper. Have great merit on paper. It most certainly does. And what we have to realise is, as with all substances of addiction, what what one person experiences and what another person experiences are very different. So one man on the street having a sip of beer, it has a very different experience and wants once more of that substance in a specific way that is very different to how somebody with an with alcohol dependence once they have that sip of beer, for example. So sip of beer, for example. So this is ideally what what we hope that this is to going be able to do is to have a normal Pleasure Centre response to any alcohol intake. Alcohol intake. Okay, david bremner, fascinating stuff. Were going to have to leave it there. Thanks for joining to have to leave it there. Thanks forjoining us to have to leave it there. Thanks for joining us today on breakfast. Yeah, and keep up the good work. Gosh, weve got lots more to be talking about. So do stick with wont you . Right now, with us, wont you . Right now, youll want to know what the weathers doing. Things are heating looks like things are heating up. Boxed boilers, up. Boxed boilers, proud sponsors of weather on. Gb news. Sponsors of weather on. Gb news. Hello. Very good morning to hello. Very good morning to you. Its Aidan Mcgivern here from the met office. Its a windy start to the day and youll notice the humidity out there, even if its not especially sunny. That humidity, along with some instability courtesy of low pressure to the southwest leading to the risk of thunderstorms across central and southern parts during the morning this morning could cause some with frequent some impacts with frequent lightning some intense lightning and some intense bursts always, bursts of rain. But as always, these thunderstorms we hit and miss and they do tend die miss and they do tend to die away push north away as they push north eastwards the morning. Eastwards during the morning. Northern fine. Northern scotland staying fine. Southwest england largely fine as some coming as well. Some sunshine coming through, of cloud and through, but a lot of cloud and a strong wind, especially for northwest wales. Per northwest wales. 50 mile per hour wind could impact hour wind gusts could impact people their holidays. For people on their holidays. For example , then, gets example, then, well, it gets very lively overnight. A band of heavy rain moves into southwestern areas that pushes into the rest of england. Its into the rest of england. Its northern ireland, southern scotland by midnight. And at the same theres the risk of same time, theres the risk of some thunderstorms some serious thunderstorms developing across eastern england. Lightning, england. Frequent lightning, large outbreaks of large hail, intense outbreaks of rain. Its also going to be a windy night and a muggy night, 18, 19 celsius across some parts of southern uk and mid to high teens, widely by dawn across many parts of the country. Heavy, persistent rain then moves into parts of scotland, especially the north and the east further spells of rain or showers across northern ireland. The northern the rest of scotland, Northern England quieter picture for england are quieter picture for the of england and wales. The rest of england and wales. Sunny spells and showers by and large, warmth in large, and still some warmth in that in the south east, that sun in the south east, highs of 25 or 26 degrees. Highs of 25 or 26 degrees. Looks like things are heating up. Boxed boilers proud sponsors of weather on. Reached over 300,000 signatures before, as you can see now, it was delivered to number 11 by a team of people from gb news and tributes have poured in after former talk show host and legendary journalist sir Michael Parkinson died at the age of 88. We will look back at his life as a National Treasure. And heres an interesting one. The and heres an interesting one. The lib dems say there have been 138 sewage leaks across the Government Department estate. That means in government places within the last 12 months and the government has lost control. Were going to be joined by a lib dem mp a bit later on whos got very strong views on sewage and of course the weekend is on its way. And how will the weather look this time . Well, heres Aidan Mcgivern from the met office with your forecast. The humidity is rising. Low pressure is edging closer. Some very lively weather expected later today. Very lively weather expected later today. Ill very lively weather expected later today. Ill have very lively weather expected later today. Ill have more in the forecast. The forecast. Yes, i think its going to be quite dodgy weather during the weekend, but a very good morning to to the breakfast to you. Welcome to the breakfast show. Anne diamond. Show. Im anne diamond. Austin daubney and this im austin daubney and this is breakfast on. Gb news. Is breakfast on. Gb news. Its still talking about football a lot , actually. Football a lot, actually. Apparently i was wrong to say that the 9066 world cup was broadcast in colour. Its obviously become a bit of a family legend in my family that my friends tv was bought first colour tv in the area to watch the 66 world cup. According to alastair in wigan morning alastair in wigan morning alastair the 1970 world cup was the first one in colour. 70 was the year i was born, but ive got the 66 final in colour on dvd. Yeah, it would have been filmed in colour. Oh. David mellor is with us. Thank you, melissa. Because i was walking up and down swanage beach my deckchair beach doing my deckchair attending people were then beach doing my deckchair atten using people were then beach doing my deckchair atten using the eople were then beach doing my deckchair atten using the television; then even using the television. They were using their they were just using their radios. But tell you, people radios. But i tell you, people then to the cinema after then went to the cinema after then went to the cinema after the final because the World Cup Final because a film was produced showing everything in colour. Yes, it was, you know, something that just didnt happen. Just didnt happen. No, i mean, in black and white tv days, which makes us also very old things were also very old live things were still in black and white for a long time, but everything was at the same time filmed in colour. So came out later. In colour. Yeah thats right. Thats the way things thats the way things happened. Well, look, he needs no does no introduction, really, does he . But basically he . David mellor but basically were about gb news is were talking about gb news is dont kill Cash Campaign because it appears to be yielding results already overnight the treasury , the treasury has treasury, the treasury has announced plans to assure access to cash facilities because more than 300,000 people signed a petition to save pounds, sterling coins and banknotes from apparent extinction and slow our move to a Cashless Society. Yesterday, gb news presenters delivered the petition in person to the treasury at number 11 downing street and within a matter of hours they said they will require people and businesses to be no more than three miles away from a cash withdrawal or deposit centre. And given the financial and even given the Financial Conduct Authority powers to fine banks who dont comply , well of banks who dont comply, well of course, david mellor , whos with course, david mellor, whos with us, was formerly the chief secretary to the treasury and worked behind number 11 front doon worked behind number 11 front doodid did worked behind number 11 front doo did did you actually work did you did you actually work in there . Did you did you actually work in tyeah, yeah. The treasury. Did yeah, yeah. The treasury. Did you ever receive petitions . Oh yes. Telling to resign . No. Yes. Telling me to resign . No. Is to receive petitions. But i tell you what, this is long overdue and im glad its happening because when you look back, the pandemic , you know, back, the pandemic, you know, the people who did best out of the people who did best out of the pandemic, the people who own credit cards , because suddenly, credit cards, because suddenly, you know, places where you would never use a credit card like coffee shops or taxis , suddenly coffee shops or taxis, suddenly Everything Everything was on the credit card. They dont talk about it because they dont want people to know how much they made. But i bet if we knew how contactless really came into force and because force as well, and because everyone worried about everyone was worried about getting some bug. Thats it ushered getting some bug. Because it ushered getting some bug. Because of it ushered getting some bug. Because of itcontacthered getting some bug. Because of itcontact of ed in because of the contact of notes and it became a sort of new normal. And course, that new normal. And of course, that left of people behind. A left a lot of people behind. A lot of elderly people, lot of the elderly people, disabled but want disabled people. But i want to talk to somebody with talk to you as somebody with grand experience of work in the centre of government. How significant that Downing Centre of government. How signifi is1t that Downing Centre of government. How signifi is actually that Downing Centre of government. How signifi is actually react Downing Centre of government. How signifi is actually react to nning centre of government. How signifi is actually react to thisg street is actually react to this quickly , this swiftly . But can quickly, this swiftly . But can we trust them . Will they see this through or are they co opting a great idea to look popular . Since i left politics, i no longer think you can trust politicians. When i was in politics, it was a different story. But no, i mean, look at the end of the day, there are a lot of people who cannot get credit cards. There are a lot of people who do not want to use a credit card. I actually draw out cash and use it for ever since my credit card made three unauthorised trips to romania , i unauthorised trips to romania, i actually dont use credit card anymore. I have exactly. I think a lot of people credit cards of people find credit cards quite frightening because you do hear horrible of how hear horrible stories of how they can be, i dont know. Do you duplicate it and things like that. But if this the government but if this is the government beginning to listen to people, you know, this may not be the worlds Biggest Issue , but its worlds Biggest Issue, but its significant. And certainly if we ended up look, i think were now down to less of these atms than we had in the early 2000. So already a lot have gone. But but they shouldnt be allowed to get rid of them. And the banks, you know, i, i watch these glutinous adverts that the banks put on and you almost feel in tears about how dedicated they are to the public good. Every opportunity they get to make life difficult for the public, they do. They do. Okay, david, please stay with us. We need to cross now to our west midlands. Reporter jack west midlands. Reporterjack carson, for carson, whos in birmingham for us been finding what us and has been finding out what people the street think people there on the street think about kill cash about gb news dont kill Cash Campaign. Top of the morning, jack. What are they saying out there in birmingham . Yeah. Good morning to you both. Really interesting views from the people ive been from the people that ive been speaking to this morning about the importance of cash, because we cash in our we dont all use cash in our everyday lives, but we know people that do. Know the people that do. We know the times that we do it. And times that we do need it. And when is important for us in when it is important for us in each of own lives. And so each of our own lives. And so the treasury making this move after kill cash after the dont kill Cash Campaign protect use campaign to protect the use of cash. Fact, unite union cash. In fact, the unite union found since 2015, 6000 bank found that since 2015, 6000 Bank Branches have closed across the uk, meaning that access to cash is decreasing across the uk as not as many places on the high street that you might have been able to access cash as before. So moving to so the treasury moving to protect giving the protect this, giving the Financial Conduct Authority those powers to find banks if they not, if the banks dont they are not, if the banks dont give that access of free withdrawals to cash. But ive been speaking to the people of birmingham this morning. Heres what they told me. I think its really important that continue using cash in that we continue using cash in our society. I think were all sort of guilty of going in sort of like guilty of going in place. Cards everywhere we place. New cards everywhere we can, we starting to lose can, and we are starting to lose the value of which the actual value of cash, which is cause big issues, is going to cause big issues, i think, for society. Is going to cause big issues, i thirwell, society. Is going to cause big issues, i thirwell, yes, ety. Is going to cause big issues, i thirwell, yes, i y. Is going to cause big issues, i thirwell, yes, i mean, everybody well, yes, i mean, Everybody Needs should have needs it. They should have thought a long time ago. Thought a bit a long time ago. Thats all. I think its like most things with this government , little, too late. , too little, far too late. Right that theyre but hes right that theyre protecting cash. I mean, how important cash you, for example . Not very much. If i know people for whom it is. Yeah people for whom it is. Yeah thats the point, isnt it . That not all of us use cash every day, but we all know people that do, particularly those elderly people and as well with businesses weve over with businesses weve heard over the weeks , havent we, the past few weeks, havent we, as this dont kill Cash Campaigners gain traction as this dont kill cash ca the igners gain traction as this dont kill cash ca the businesses gain traction as this dont kill cash ca the businesses of|ain traction as this dont kill cash ca the businesses of the traction as this dont kill cash ca the businesses of the people of the businesses of the people that find this really important and know, that free access and you know, that free access to withdrawals is also important as well. Only 78 of cash machines across uk offer that free withdrawal. Thats something the government is trying crack onto. Trying to crack down onto. Jack , thanks very much okay, jack, thanks very much indeed. Good hear what indeed. Its good to hear what people we still have people think. We still have david mellor with us this morning change tack morning. Can we change tack a little . Because obviously you little . Because obviously you only have to look at the newspaper we heard the newspaper papers. We heard the newspaper papers. We heard the news about sir michael news yesterday about sir Michael Parkinson , a real loss of parkinson dying, a real loss of a National Treasure. But, you know , a real loss of but, you know, a real loss of a man who was far more than just someone who asked glutinous questions to hollywood celebrity movies. He made his name writing really tough pieces about what he called the marylebone clod peoples club, which is the mcc and all the rest of it. And i always found him very engaging. Can i tell you one, please do the story right . He lived in a very nice house on a river to the west of london. But he also he and mary used to spend a few months every year in australia and he got a phone call from his son there. Next door neighbour was gerald ratner. You remember the one who talked about his earrings being scrapped and they wouldnt last as long as marks and spencers prawn sandwich. So and spencers prawn sandwich. So he said, dad problems here. There was a wind last night and one of and one of ratners trees fell across our house and has doneit fell across our house and has done it quite a lot of damage. And then the son said, because michael was very proud, the son said, you know what, dad . Even his trees crap. His trees are crap. Yeah, he was. Yeah, he was. Yeah, he was. Im so glad you made that point that he wasnt a chat show host. Like what you get in the states where they just welcome in another hollywood guest and then they just ask them in any questions. Michael parkinson interviewed people, and thats why when you remember him, you remember him. You actually remember him. You actually remember his interviews. You remember his interviews. You remember his interviews. You remember brilliant he was remember how brilliant he was with or whatever. With muhammad ali or whatever. Dont you . You dont just remember him. He wasnt the star. He made other people shine like stars. But in adverts. He became a star himself. Became a star himself. And before he did, his chat shows , you just to return shows, you know, just to return to point wrote the sunday to the point wrote in the sunday times, he wrote really tough stuff about the way a lot of our big sports were run. And, you know, he came to television as a really tough minded journalist and thankfully never lost that. No. One more question before we have to say thank you and goodbye is sunday morning with the womens final and our lioness is doing so well as important, if not more important , than 1966. No why not . Well , you see, i , than 1966. No why not . Well, you see, i dont want to say because its very easy. Then people just think youre being dismissive. Ive enjoyed watching this world cup. I hope we win it. Ill be there cheering from my sofa and i hope very much itll go well. Very much that itll go well. But i mean, the mens world but no, i mean, the mens world cup is far more a far more substantial event goes on for much longer. And basically, i think the women have got a long way to go. But when i think that you know, a lot of i mean, i noļ¬ce you know, a lot of i mean, i notice this from as a chelsea season ticket holder, you know, people who wouldnt give you tuppence for the womens game and now talking about chelsea ladies against the mens ladies as against the mens team. And of course this team arent very good. Arent very good. Should Prince William as head of the far bigger going to sydney despite his Carbon Footprint of having to fly out there, shouldnt he be there . Well, particularly since dont forget he will one day if they dont change the rules, almost certainly will. Hell be king of australia as well. Yeah, i think he i think he should go but i hes obviously isnt to. Going well we dont know for sure if queen of spain is there. Yeah i mean come on he ought to go. I think weve been told is not going well. All right hes got other things to do. But Prince William, its part of his job, isnt it . Well, i slightly feel so. But personally, prince personally, i think Prince William charming chap, and william is a charming chap, and i think hes got a lot to contribute. But there have often been that, know, been whisperings that, you know, he necessarily in he doesnt necessarily put in every hour god gave his every hour that god gave to his job. Think i ive never job. And i think i ive never felt more tired out than that. A trip to australia and back a very short time. It is. But you very short time. It is. But you know, he should be there. Its his duty to be there. I agree that. David mellor, were going to have to leave it there. Thanks for joining us this morning on forjoining us this morning on gb news breakfast and talking about rishi having a headache. Lets move gb news is lets move now to gb news is in downing again, this downing street again, but this time for very different time for a very different reason. Political editor, reason. Our political editor, the Christopher Hope, the legendary Christopher Hope, is number 10 us with is live at number 10 for us with some revelations about some exclusive revelations about the stop the the Prime Ministers stop the boats christopher boats pledge. Christopher another what boats pledge. Christopher anotyou what boats pledge. Christopher anotyou tell what boats pledge. Christopher anotyou tell our what boats pledge. Christopher anotyou tell our viewers what boats pledge. Christopher anotyou tell our viewers about at it . Thats right. A key focus of rishi sunak this year, one of the five pledges he made in january to stop the boats, january was to stop the boats, the illegal crossings the the illegal crossings across the channel. Forget, last week channel. Dont forget, last week we that figure had hit we heard how that figure had hit 100,000in just five years. Well, today, another milestone could well be passed. Its likely that today or this weekend, the number will go above 25,000. Thats just since rishi sunak became Prime Minister the exact figure is. Two 24,860 illegal figure is. Two 24,860 Illegal Migrants arrived over the channel between 20 and 5th of october and the 17th august. Thats yesterday. If that goes thats yesterday. If that goes above that figure , thats above that figure, thats another. It drives home the point that this is not a legacy issue really for the Prime Minister. Its one thats happening right on his watch. 1 in 4 of all crossings since 2017 have happened when hes been behind me in 10 downing street. Labour will leap on those figures today. Theyll say, what is why cant the is going on . Why cant the government get a grip . Many of our the same our viewers will think the same thing. Thats the problem. And lets well, lets wait see lets well, lets wait and see what number say about that. What number 10 say about that. The home course, are the home office, of course, are saying are working hard saying they are working hard with although with the french, although theres that the theres reports today that the numbers stop crossings numbers of stop of crossings stopped on the beaches of france have. Thats the have declined. Thats on the front today telegraph. Front page of today telegraph. Thats weve thats a worry because weve given lots of money to try given them lots of money to try and crossings. So, yes and stop the crossings. So, yes , its difficult for sunak , yes, its difficult for sunak yesterday. Want the football, the flags are up behind me on downing street, the reality downing street, but the reality of this policy and why of this of this policy and why its got to succeed for sunak has away. Has not gone away. I mean, as you said, its front page news already on the daily telegraph. Were sort of asking, wheres all our money going if the french are actually getting rid of fewer migrants than they did last year. Your figures show the same. This this issue is not going to go away. Was he really unwise to make it a pledge that we can now see hes obviously failed. In hes obviously failed. In well, he hasnt failed yet. He hasnt yet. And because he hasnt said when hell do it by, he said he will stop the boats. But its not time limited. The problem theyve got is i dont expect this ruling by the courts on whether the rwanda plan thats to fly out migrants who arrived here illegally to rwanda and processed applications there. That idea , which is meant there. That idea, which is meant to break the model of the people smugglers, wont be looked at by the courts or decided by the courts until december. So i think were facing a very difficult autumn on on the small boats crossings. They will decline as the weather gets worse and more inclement. Decline as the weather gets worse and more inclement. But while its hot and sunny, although might this although it might not be this weekend, but its while in weekend, but while its while in the summer, these numbers will get worse, shows a direction get worse, it shows a direction of what people who of travel. But what people who tell they back the tell me that they back the tories and sunak, they want to see a vision, an idea of hope away from these five challenges which are proving difficult. Which are proving difficult. But back to anns point, though, chopra the problem is stop the boats is binary. It means stopping them. It doesnt means stopping them. It doesnt mean slightly reducing them. It doesnt mean 4 down. It doesnt mean, oh, the weather was better last therefore its gone last week. Therefore its gone up. Like stopping is up. Its like stopping is stopping. Think is stopping. I think it is a foolhardy thing to say unless theres a severe change of tack going towards an australian style. Very, very strict border style. Very, very strict border control. Do you think any kind control. Do you think any kind of appetite is there for that kind of policy within the conservative party . Chopper well, there should be given by the polls. The issue of small boats crossings regularly goes very high up in what is concerning voters and they get that stop. The boat is, as you say , as you the boat is, as you say, as you say. And martin, its a binary choice. Theyre trying to make. Theyre theyre not saying when its going to happen. What theyll do, i think, is theyll want to do, i think, is try change the subject in the try to change the subject in the next few months into a kind of idea of what will happen if they win election, because win the next election, because theyre to i mean, if theyre not going to i mean, if theyre not going to i mean, if they the boats, they can stop all the boats, every boat crossing by every single boat crossing by this time next year, itll be extraordinary. But judging by the thats looks extraordinary. But judging by the likely thats looks extraordinary. But judging by the likely. Thats looks less likely. Okay, thank you for okay, chris, thank you for that new line live that exclusive new line live from downing street. Thanks for joining us the show. Joining us on the show. Something news meanwhile, to something news that we learned yesterday and today. This morning, tributes are still pouring in for sir Michael Parkinson , one of Michael Parkinson, one of britains most celebrated broadcasters. I can barely believe im reading it out. Sadly, he died yesterday at the age of 88. Yeah, its been sort of choking you all morning, hasnt it . Lets face it. You knew the man, the legend, very well. Yeah, but you know how it affects you. You live a world affects you. You live in a world where hes always around, and then suddenly hes not. You cant believe yeah cant actually believe it. Yeah because career spanning because in a career spanning seven decades on television, sir michael, fondly known michael, of course, fondly known as parky by friends and fans. And of course, i think all of the British Public became one of the British Public became one of the interviewers of all the greatest interviewers of all time long chat time with his long running chat show. Stephanie takyi is with time with his long running chat shythis Stephanie Takyi is with time with his long running chat shythis morningynie takyi is with time with his long running chat shythis morning and takyi is with time with his long running chat shythis morning and we yi is with time with his long running chat shythis morning and we have ith us this morning and we have a lovely of you actually lovely picture of you actually with him shortly after you interviewed him. What was the interviewed him. What was the occasion . Interviewed him. What was the occ son . Interviewed him. What was the occ so he was promoting his book so he was promoting his book that hed wrote about him and muhammad alis relationship because they known each because they had known each other so long. He had other for so long. He had interviewed him about four times. He was talking about times. So he was talking about their interactions, both on screen, off screen and what i found about sir Michael Parkinson. He was just very warm parkinson. He was just very warm and authentic and he was really passionate as me as a Young Journalist coming up, just been to have that kind of authority in that credibility. In that credibility. And he was as interested in heanng and he was as interested in hearing about your as you hearing about your job as you wanted it. And to be honest, he was quite impressive. My set of questions asked him. So i questions that i asked him. So i always i bit of a pinch me always i had a bit of a pinch me moment. Was bigger moment. It was it was bigger than meeting any celebrity. It was Michael Parkinson, was sir Michael Parkinson, because precedent for because he set the precedent for people really want to get people who really want to get into doing good interviews and want be broadcasters and want to be good broadcasters and good journalists. And what ive seen from all tributes that one word keeps on coming is word that keeps on coming up is authentic. Both on and off authentic. Yes. Both on and off screen. One of the few people who really deserve that. Spoke to John Stapleton we spoke to John Stapleton yesterday, obviously a former colleague and i said sum colleague of his, and i said sum him word. And he said, him up in a word. And he said, its an empathetic. Just its an empathetic. Yeah just like that. It wasnt you like that. And it wasnt you know, didnt say legend or know, he didnt say legend or anything. A anything. Lazy, empathetic, a listener, cared listener, somebody who cared about are in front of about those who are in front of him. That him. Yes. And that conversational was conversational style was so engaging the audience. Engaging for the audience. Yeah, thats what yeah, well, thats what worked, should we talk yeah, well, thats what workeythat should we talk yeah, well, thats what workeythat to should we talk yeah, well, thats what workeythat to lord tould we talk yeah, well, thats what workeythat to lord michael . Talk about that to lord michael . Great, who joins us now, former bbc itv chairman. Great, who joins us now, former bbc itv chairman. And its bbc and itv chairman. And its lovely to you, michael. Hi. Lovely to see you, michael. Hi. You. Hello thank you. Hello thank you. Hello tell us about your experiences. When did you first meet Michael Parkinson and what do you think of him . Do you think of him . Well, a legend , but i well, hes a legend, but i was a boy agent in sort trousers in the late 60s and always on the lookout to sign up new talent. And i saw him do a few things for Granada Television and a bit for sport for london weekend. I thought, this guys weekend. I thought, this guys got something. So i took him out got something. So i took him out for a very expensive lunch. I told him that i was the manager of his dreams and then he should sign with me for the rest of his life. If we had a great lunch, i life. If we had a great lunch, i never heard him again until never heard from him again until a later. But i never heard from him again until a later. But i think he a year later. But i think he dodged bullet. But i was dodged a bullet. But i was a huge fan before he was before he was. Was famous. And then how would you when we were all looking back over his remarkable career and what he was like as a man, how would you sum him up . Well, what you what you saw is what you got. What you saw on the show very natural. He the show was very natural. He wasnt a personality. He wasnt a presenter. He was a highly trained very, trained journalist and very, very he could write very skilled. He could write beautifully, but he always beautifully, but he was always interested in interviewing his heroes and you see his face light up when he meets jemmy cagney or jemmy stewart or any of the any of the greats, jacob bronowski, you name it, muhammad ali, obviously. But he was ali, obviously. But he was interested in what they had to say. He learnt as a journalist, you dont get a story by talking yourself. You ask short questions and try and encourage the other one to entertain and inform. He was he was a master inform. He was he was a master of conversation. I wont call it chat. Its demeaning. Think its conversation. And how important do you think it was that he had that journalistic pedigree . That journalistic pedigree . He started on the bones, the chronicle , then onto the chronicle, then onto the Manchester Guardian, the observer. The sunday times spoke to a heck of a lot of ordinary people getting their out people getting their stories out of them. We have everyman of them. We have that everyman touch , son of coal miner. He touch, son of a coal miner. He wasnt what we were used to on british television, was he . He was a breath of air, good was a breath of fresh air, good barnsley accent on the bbc at that time was quite a novelty. Excuse me , but that excuse me, but that journalism ran right through him and without that, he would never have, never been the success that he was. Richard littlejohn writes about him beautifully in the mail today, saying that there was at one point where he sort of said something. I think it was meant to be quite cutting about it. Parky was back on telly, but he was interviewing people from many years ago and he snapped back. You meet a better class of person down memory lane. He did do the lovely. He did do. He did these legendary figures and they were obviously so fond of him that they came back again and again. They trusted him. They absolutely trusted him to not you know, he wasnt looking for headunes you know, he wasnt looking for headlines , you know, cheap. Headlines, you know, cheap. These days. Theyd be looking for cheap social media soundbites, which i know you guys would never do, but that the modern world of celebrity was not for him. His world was his heroes, but his heroes were our heroes. The audience is heroes, and we couldnt believe on a saturday, my god, as our parky talking to jemmy stewart , parky talking to jemmy stewart, it was just breathtaking. It was just breathtaking. Yes, he spoke as the common man, i suppose he interviewed and converse. But as you say, as the common man in our place. The common man in our place. Well, if youre a good journalist , well, if youre a good journalist, you know well, if youre a good journalist , you know the journalist, you know the questions that are on the audiences mind and you know , audiences mind and you know, the supplementary questions that will lead you into a good story or anecdote or a bit of or a good anecdote or a bit of nice revelation. But he was nice revelation. But he was never he was never looking for sensation. He was interested in sensation. He was interested in giving the biggest stars in the world the opportunity to strut their stuff. For a british audience in a very relaxed and controlled way and controlled by minders , by people. Studio minders, by people. Studio marketing department, just lets have it. Come on, jemmy stewart, lets have a chat. Wonderful, lets have a chat. Wonderful, magical , lets have a chat. Wonderful, magical, magical dream world. Everybodys saying well never see his like again. Sadly. Do you think thats true . Yeah. Do you think thats true . Yeah. I mean, the art of conversation is dead, isnt it . Its all soundbites. Conversation is dead, isnt it . Its all soundbites. Celebrities its all soundbites. Celebrities who come and go after three minutes and a splash in the front page of the star and its all over. No, hes interested in that long term. But people have very short Attention Spans today. And hopefully somebody will come along who can have some intelligent and entertaining conversation on television. Again, i dont think itll happen in my lifetime. Itll happen in my lifetime. Oh, its to great talk to you, though. Its lovely to see you, though. Its lovely to see you again, prue. Thank you so much. Thank you so much. Thank you so much. Thank you. Thank you. And god, god bless parky and his family. Absolutely. Yeah. Thank you very saying that. Very much for saying that. Thats sign that we thats a little sign that we might thank you. Thats a little sign that we migthat thank you. Thats a little sign that we migthat washank you. Thats a little sign that we migthat was that you. Thats a little sign that we migthat was that was wonderful, that was that was wonderful, wasnt it . Any absolutely. Nailed know, way wasnt it . Any absolutely. Nailywe know, way wasnt it . Any absolutely. Nailywe were know, way wasnt it . Any absolutely. Nailywe were invited way wasnt it . Any absolutely. Nailywe were invited into nay wasnt it . Any absolutely. Nailywe were invited into that that we were invited into that conversation paul , you conversation because paul, you could almost mind read what we wanted to ask celebrity. Wanted to ask the celebrity. Well, is as lord great well, that is as lord great said, thats journalist job, said, thats the journalist job, isnt it, stephanie . It and its just that it is. And its just that treasure of conversation, which we anymore to we dont have anymore due to social media. People living through screens. Thats through their screens. So thats what treasure about that what you treasure about that air, and especially what Michael Parkinson did, respecting the conversation. An excellent, excellent. Yeah , its a great way to pay yeah, its a great way to pay tribute to him. So there we are. I think at 823. Its about time we caught up with whats happening weather. Happening with the weather. That warm feeling inside from boxt boilers, proud sponsors of weather on. Gb news. Weather on. Gb news. Hello. Very good morning to you. Its Aidan Mcgivern here from the metal office. Its a windy start to the day and youll notice the humidity out there, even if its not especially sunny, that humidity , along with some instability courtesy of low pressure to the southwest , leading to the risk southwest, leading to the risk of thunderstorms across central and southern parts during the morning this morning could cause some impacts with frequent lightning and some intense bursts of rain. But as always, these thunderstorm forms hit these thunderstorm forms we hit and tend to die and miss and they do tend to die away as they push north eastwards during the morning. Northern fine. Northern scotland staying fine. Southwest england largely fine as sunshine coming as well. Some sunshine coming through, cloud and through, but a lot of cloud and a wind, especially for a strong wind, especially for northwest mile per northwest wales, 50 mile per hour wind gusts could impact people for people on their holidays. For example, then, well , it gets example, then, well, it gets very lively overnight , example, then, well, it gets very lively overnight, a band of heavy rain moves into southwestern areas that pushes into the rest of england , into into the rest of england, into northern ireland, southern scotland midnight the scotland by midnight. And at the same theres risk of same time, theres the risk of some serious thunderstorms developing eastern developing across eastern england. Frequent lightning, large outbreaks of large hail, intense outbreaks of rain. Its also going to be a windy night and a muggy night. 1819 celsius across some parts of southern uk and mid to high teens, widely by dawn across many parts of the country. Heavy, persistent rain then moves into parts of scotland, especially the north and the east. Further spells of rain or showers across northern ireland. The rest of scotland, Northern England, quieter picture england, a quieter picture for the england wales. The rest of england and wales. Sunny and showers by and sunny spells and showers by and large, still some warmth in large, and still some warmth in that the south east highs that sun in the south east highs of 25 or 26 degrees. That warm feeling inside from boxt boilers, proud sponsors of weather on. Gb news morning. Weather on. Gb news morning. I cant believe im saying this, but were still talking football. Tony says. Im sorry, but for me, the World Cup Final on sunday is much more than 1966, totally gone off 1966, having totally gone off mens football over the years with no interest the premier with no interest in the premier League Championship , the amount League Championship, the amount the paid in a time the players are paid in a time when everyone is struggling and working hard and ban has given me a slap on wrist. Me a slap on the wrist. London and youre ben in london and youre absolutely correct , men absolutely correct, the men in the studio given the the studio are not given the england team, the england Football Team, the lionesses, the credit. They deserve they have done is deserve what they have done is to the men today or the to show the men of today or the women of today can do. And they are doing it better than the men. Ben, corrected. Men. Ben, stand corrected. Your views coming in, keep your views coming in, though, you . Will though, dont you . Will you please gb views gb news. Com. Please gb views gb news. Com. Meanwhile, theres plenty more to come , including an interview to come, including an interview with labours Education Minister stephanie this is stephanie morgan. This is breakfast on gb news or. Or or. Or or. Or or. Or. Or. Or or. Or or. Or or. Or. Or. Or or. Or or. Or or. Or. Welcome back. Its 830. Youre watching or listening to breakfast with anne and martin. Lets speak to stephen morgan, who is the shadow schools minister. And a very good morning to you. Thank you very much for joining good morning to you. Thank you very much forjoining us. Gb news here has been running a campaign called dont kill cash, which we presented 300,000 signatures on a petition. Yes today to number 11. And it would appear that they have responded. And i just wonder what your thoughts are on the whole business of our our society sort of losing cash. Well, thank you of losing cash. Well, thank you for running the petition because i know its the poorest in society that dont always get access to cash. And certainly in portsmouth, where i represent, people have really struggled with banks, have closed and cash machines have closed and cash machines have charged. People i think have charged. People so i think its really Important Campaign have charged. People so i think its im ally Important Campaign have charged. People so i think its im reallyiportant campaign have charged. People so i think its im really pleasedcampaign have charged. People so i think its im really pleased the paign and im really pleased the government and im really pleased the govstephen, the a level results stephen, the a level results were out yesterday. Of course, were out yesterday. Of course, thats something that youll be all over. Theres talk about grades being deflated previous over inflation, but i know one thing youre keen to talk about is a disproportionate representation of communities in the working classes. The the working classes. The attainment gap. What do you have planned for that in the labour party . Party . Well, the first thing to say is thank you and well done to all students that got their results. Yes, and thank you to results. Yes, and thank you to teachers and school and College Support Staff across country support staff across the country that worked tirelessly to that have worked tirelessly to support across the support young people across the country. We saw country. But what we saw yesterday were unequal results across country. Almost 40 across the country. Almost 40 or more, 40 more likely to get the top grades in london, in the south east than you are in the north east and i think this is because the government of said that they maxed out on support for young people post pandemic. For young people post pandemic. The tutoring programme has failed and there have been real consequences for children up and down the country. Labours plan is ambition for every young person. We want to make sure theres good pathways to Good Progress for every young person , and that means by putting more teachers and retaining teachers in the classroom to make sure that every young person succeeds. But stephen, isnt the biggest damage that we cause an entire generation through education lockdown and closing schools. And that was something that starmer sooner, that keir starmer wanted sooner, harder and longer even than the conservatives. Conservatives. Well, we obviously wanted to keep schools open, and many schools did for key workers. Thats now in the past, what the government could have done is invest in the Recovery Plan that would supported would have supported the tackling of lost learning. The government failed. And what we saw as the result was the education tsar that the government appointed resigned because the fact that the government werent putting enough this the enough money into this and the consequences being felt consequences are now being felt up the country with not up and down the country with not a levelling playing that a levelling Playing Field that i would to say. Would want to say. Its interesting. I mean, you said you said at the beginning you congratulate youngsters congratulate all the youngsters who did yesterday and there who did well yesterday and there will be some youngsters who feel that their a level grades werent good enough. Can i ask you, a level results that you, our a level results that important , you, our a level results that important, really . Because when you grow up into the adult world, nobody ever asks you for your a level results. Do they . I mean, are we do we actually put too emphasis on these exams too much emphasis on these exams and enough emphasis on maybe and not enough emphasis on maybe other ways into work . Well other ways into work . Well obviously thats what Gillian Keegan said. Yes. I mean, shocking that the education secretary said that of course results matter. I was the first in my family to go to university and i really, really focussed hard on my a levels. I want to make sure that every young person can go on to succeed in life by having good pathways to get those good prospects life. And of prospects for life. And of course, results matter exams matter. We want to make sure that every young person succeeds and labours got a plan to deliver that great stephen morgan, shadow schools minister , thank joining us this , thank you for joining us this morning gb news breakfast. Morning on gb news breakfast. You. Thank you. Thank you. Welcome. Youre welcome. Youre welcome. You. I wonder youre thank you. I wonder if youre watching home, what you watching it from home, what you feel about that and whether or not wasnt a bad thing not it wasnt such a bad thing to say that results a level results dont matter that much. There long as there were there are as long as there were other into work that you other ways into work that you could to somebody who could say to somebody who was disappointed a level disappointed with their a level results into results maybe cant get into university you can university after all. You can say, all right, but you could go and terrific, you know , and do a terrific, you know, what do you call it . An apprenticeship. Thank you for, you know, in the city for a big bang, for whoever. There are lots ways into really good lots of ways into really good profitable work that arent necessarily university. Necessarily university. Yeah. And stephen morgans party, the labour party in particular, tony blair said education, education, education. And i think we forced a lot of people down a route that perhaps wasnt and was wasnt best for them. And was very expensive for them. Wasnt best for them. And was venandyensive for them. Wasnt best for them. And was venand itsive for them. Wasnt best for them. And was venand its left or them. Wasnt best for them. And was venand its left them m. Wasnt best for them. And was venand its left them with a big and its left them with a big debt and maybe that, you know, not the right job after all of that a big debt, perhaps over that to a big debt, perhaps over expectation they expectation of where they can get achieve life. Get and achieve in life. Whereas should be whereas what we should be doing is getting more people in my sons of consistently that my sons of mon consistently that not they need degree not only did they need a degree to get into the to try and get into the profession they wanted, they then then masters then they then needed a masters as is ridiculous. As well, which is ridiculous. Is. Its just much as well, which is ridiculous. Is. Itsjust much and it is. Its just too much and not necessarily the right way in. I never went to university. Used to a chip on used to be a chip on my shoulder. I its a bit of shoulder. I think its a bit of a now. A relief now. Well, look where you are and what youve achieved in your life. Youre living being able to. Youre living being able to. Youre living being able to. You dont need to. You dont need to. Michael parkinson left school with look how with two o levels and look how well go. Im sorry. Its well he did go. Im sorry. Its not the only thing getting a level results. At its 839. Welcome back. Youre watching and listening. I like to be prompt. You listening to breakfast with anne and martin. Its time to go to read the papers now. My favourite part of the show joining us this morning, of course, gb news, senior course, or gb news, senior political commentator nigel nelson, and writer and commentator holder has commentator candace holder has been already through been with us already through the morning. Nigel the games are oven morning. Nigel the games are over. Fascinating story. This one about the physical effect of screen time on young children. Yes. And i think the story of the day, actually, because it means that kids are abandoned in traditional games, games. So a quarter have never, never played conkers that are camping under the stars 1 in 3 of have never done that. 4 in 10 of have never done that. 4 in 10 have never built a treehouse , have never built a treehouse, gone fishing, made a bow and arrow, or swam in a lake. And it arrow, or swam in a lake. And it seems that all this sort of outdoor pursuits that youd hope that they would do just seems to have gone by the board. And the saddest of the lot is that only i saddest of the lot is that only 1 in 5 kids have ever played pooh sticks. Oh, yes. Oh, yes. Oh, yes. Its a sort of right. Its a sort of right. Thats right. Its a rite of passage. Yes. Yes. Im delighted to say ive done all of those things in my kids. Yeah, me too. Yeah, me too. Yeah, me too. Yeah, im a very hands on sort of dad teaching kids diy skills, getting them out and about. I tell you what, the problem my kids were always able to do, those sort of things because we had a field next to our house and used to just go and get and they used to just go and get lost field for a half an lost in the field for a half an hour hour or whatever, and hour or an hour or whatever, and do all sorts things. And do all sorts of things. And i think the problem is its not just screen time. Not enough kids near open green spaces. Some of that with sort of safe monitoring the fear. The interesting thing but the interesting thing about in this about this, the science in this story is its actually making kids myopic. Its affecting their kids myopic. Its affecting the the survey was was was was the survey was was was was done by group that was that of done by a group that was that of the myopic awareness coalition. And yes, thats right. And they say, yes, thats right. Kids becoming kids are now becoming short sighted theyre sighted because theyre not going outside. Theyre spending all time screen. Well, all their time on screen. Well, dont that . Dont we all feel that . Mean, if ive spent a day i mean, if ive spent a day that im really writing something on that laptop, you look and your eyes cant look up and your eyes cant focus for a while. Yeah, its a real its horrible, actually. And im not spending nearly as much time on my computer as some kids do on their small screens. Screens. Exactly and thats the exactly right. And thats the way going. So get your kids way its going. So get your kids out of there. Its summer out of there. Its a summer holidays. A field, holidays. Get them into a field, do something outdoorsy if youre able so. These able to do so. Can these fascinating front page of fascinating story, front page of the times today , the Financial Times today, Jonathan Van Tam that man van tam. Thank you, maam. The one who was saying during all of those press conferences to take the jab has now been made. A senior role at where . At moderna. So this so hes been criticised for this by various civil Rights Groups who say that theres a revolving doon say that theres a revolving door. So people work in politics and then they move into companies where theyre then able to lobby the government again. I mean, theres absolutely no suggestion that hes done anything untoward. The parliamentary hes done anything untoward. The parliament. Say he cant Lobby Committee say he cant lobby until 2024, but i guess the obvious criticism here is , is obvious criticism here is, is when he was in government, did he have his eye on working for one of these companies . And that can be a problem. You know, you have the same with David Cameron when criticised for when he was criticised for lobbying greensill lobbying on behalf of greensill or that company. Its tricky because all these businesses work on relationships, right . So i mean, you know, if youre working for moderna, you need to have good relationships with the government. So you need people in there who whats going in there who know whats going on in front the on and can get in front of the right people. But are there conflicts interest . And conflicts of interest . And i think that is a really think that that is a really legitimate question ask. Legitimate question to ask. Whats really i think whats really interesting i mean, i think whats really inte obviously i mean, i think whats really inte obviously youre i mean, i think whats really inte obviously youre right,3an, i think whats really inte obviously youre right, this you obviously youre right, this happens revolving happens a lot. The revolving door jp morgan door savvy javid, jp morgan ended their advisory ended up on their advisory board. So it does happen a lot. But i guess whats interesting about because but i guess whats interesting alisrt because but i guess whats interesting alis about because but i guess whats interesting alis about the because but i guess whats interesting alis about the vaccine, because it is about the vaccine, normally the press normally a lot of the press would jumping on this story, would be jumping on this story, but they dont seem to be doing that about this one. These tricky its always these tricky stories, stuff stories, right . I mean, stuff like people dont want like vaccines. People dont want to it. Theyre very to go near it. Theyre very afraid i think that afraid of it. But i think that it is legitimate to question conflicts of interest. Absolutely. Know youre not saying conspiratorial saying anything conspiratorial there. Thats simply about ethics interests. Yes. Ethics and interests. Yes. About psycho seagulls tell us about psycho seagulls again, nigel. Yeah, this is a great story. This some experts have been putting gps tags on seagulls to check their behaviour and it turns out theyre even brighter than we thought they were. So thats dangerous, apparently, when you come to nick your food on the beach, they act rather like shoplifters in pairs. So one comes towards you to distract you. You think thats distract you. You think thats the one is going to be after your chips or your ice cream . One comes up behind and actually nicks it. And so it looks as if nicks it. And so it looks as if that the seagulls have worked the whole whole game out. Work in pairs. I dont know how they did with the food up afterwards, but that reminds you of in Jurassic Park about the velociraptors who did the same thing , isnt it . Thing, isnt it . And when you think of it, birds are dinosaurs. Yes. Yes. Thats yes. Thats worrying yes. Thats worrying. Yes. Thats worrying. Yes. Thats worrying. I can well believe this. We i can well believe this. We did seagull attacks once before on breakfast and people went mad all morning, sending in their stories about how theyd lost their chip. But their cod spirit exploded as this furry monster flew in. And theyre getting bolder. Theyre boulders. Brass bolder. Theyre boulders. Brass theyre getting bigger now. Theyre getting brainier. Its not all it really isnt, right. Talking about brains in the feet. Candice youve been looking at the battle for the election. Yeah yes. So this is a very interesting story. So labour is apparently planning to water down some of its workers rights pledges. So down some of its workers rights pledges. So this down some of its workers rights pledges. So this is in terms of pledges. So this is in terms of parental leave dismissals. And parental leave dismissals. And what they were going to do is they were going to really try and tackle what they believe are unfair practises in the gig economy. They were going to create a whole of create a whole category of worker exclude the worker which would exclude the self employed and they self employed and then they would access all these would get access to all these things paid leave, parental leave. Et cetera. But now apparently rowing apparently theyre rowing back on little before the on it a little bit before the election, which, of course, has angered like unite angered the unions like unite and momentum are very much on the left and dont this. The left and dont like this. I think the big question to ask is what are labour standing for now . Seem to be rowing back now . They seem to be rowing back on the election. On so much for the election. What are for . What are they what are they for . What are they for . For . Its interesting, nigel, because follows on the because this also follows on the heels of the child benefits cap , a u turn on a , which they did a u turn on a lot of kind of core Labour Party Members saying youre basically the tories in disguise or is this admission the fact this an admission of the fact theyve got no money theyve just got no money because 2. 6 because were broke with 2. 6 trillion debt . Because were broke with 2. 6 triliyeah, debt . Because were broke with 2. 6 triliyeah, iiebt . Because were broke with 2. 6 triliyeah, i think the money, yeah, i think its the money, the money side of it that what labour will do is roughly what tony blair did back 1997 and tony blair did back in 1997 and adopt spending policies for adopt tory spending policies for the first couple of years , which the first couple of years, which probably is the responsible thing to do. But it means all the things wanted to do the things they wanted to do which money. They cant. Which cost money. They cant. But there was more money around blair around when tony blair there was, into power. Was, yes. Came into power. Yes. Yes, there was. The moment it was. I if any next i wonder if any next government will have same government will have that same note for saying, you note left for them saying, you know, theres no know, good luck, theres no money kitty. Money in the kitty. Yes. And it was meant to be a joke that the tories keep using to actually batter labour with, but know that theres liam but that know that theres liam byrne. Yes, byrne. Liam byrne yes, yes, thats right. Country was a mere the country then was a mere 800 debt were now 2. 6 800 million in debt were now 2. 6 trillion in. Oh amazing. Oh amazing. Youre absolutely right. Oh amazing. Youure absolutely right. Oh amazing. You knowrbsolutely right. Oh amazing. You know blair|tely right. Oh amazing. You know blair came ght. Oh amazing. You know blair came int. Oh amazing. You know blair came in with and you know blair came in with bold pledges and promises, and you know blair came in with bo|had edges and promises, and you know blair came in with bo|had quite and promises, and you know blair came in with bo|had quite a bulgingises, and you know blair came in with bo|had quite a bulging bank he had quite a bulging bank account, now maybe the account, whereas now maybe the labour voter happened to labour voter just happened to get but why do they keep having but why do they keep having to look backwards . It just seems like keir starmer know like keir starmer doesnt know which way go forward. Which way to go forward. Is as though theyre no, it is as though theyre testing all the time testing the water all the time to their policies to see what their policies should the olden should be, whereas in the olden days, know, 20, 30, years days, you know, 20, 30, 40 years ago, if you voted labour because you knew inherently what they were same with the were for and also same with the tories, youre terribly tories, now youre not terribly sure voting for. Sure what youre voting for. The costing thing that it is the costing thing that i mean, Rachel Reeves is acting rather like gordon brown did with tony blair when gordon brown chancellor. Brown was chancellor. They really very sort of, you really keep a very sort of, you know, a tight rein on the money and sure there is the money and make sure there is the money there to carry out what they say theyre carry out. So theyre going to carry out. So blairs wasnt, if blairs pledge card wasnt, if you remember that back to 97, the he promised to the five things he promised to do first term. Do and did in the first term. They werent that ambitious. Sort waiting lists one of sort of waiting lists was one of them. 100,000 of waiting them. Was 100,000 of waiting list was one of them. 250,000 young people off benefited into work. Fast track punishment for young offenders. And one of the young offenders. And one of the class sizes of under 30 for five and seven. And the big one, a strong economy. And he got debt down to 40. Now its 100. Your memory is your memory is brilliant, but most people youre going to forget halfway through. Well done. Well, were to going were going to say love you and leave you right now. You so much, both of thank you so much, both of you, for being in this morning. Its been fascinating. But were going about going to be talking about something know affects something that i know affects everybody maybe is everybody who chooses, maybe is choosing staycation. Choosing to do a staycation. This year. You think . All right. My family , if the weathers any my family, if the weathers any good, be on the beach and good, well be on the beach and well enjoy a swim. Well be able to enjoy a swim. Well maybe not where you live because where you go on holiday, because where you go on holiday, because the sea could be full of. You dont want me to say, well, this is an interesting one because parliamentary questions tabled by the lib dems have revealed that Civil Servants in whitehall and across the country suffer the same sewage misery. A seaside swimmers. Lets speak seaside swimmers. Lets speak now to liberal democrat mp christine jardine. Lovely to see christine jardine. Lovely to see you again , christine. Thanks so you again, christine. Thanks so much for joining you again, christine. Thanks so much forjoining us. Its an odd one to be talking to you about this morning. Sewage yeah. And this morning. Sewage yeah. And too often were having to talk about this problem. Too little has been done to solve it. And there are too many examples of it happening all over the country. What i mean, how did you come up . How did you lib dems . Im not sure it was whether whether you personally how did you come up with how did you come up with this issue of looking at sewage problems actually whitehall . Well, actually within whitehall . Well, we to what people tell us we listen to what people tell us is happening. We listen to our constituents. First of all, and we to people across the we listen to people across the country and then we listen to what was actually happening in whitehall. That there what was actually happening in whitaļæ½ nall. That there what was actually happening in whita problem that there what was actually happening in whita problem asked here what was actually happening in whita problem asked the was a problem and asked the question were horrified at question and were horrified at the answer. Theres been more than a hundred examples of sewage leaks in government buildings. And theres also an buildings. And theres also an example in one of the newspapers today of a building being closed because of an insect infestation. Now, this is just not acceptable. Nobody should be asked to work in these conditions. It shouldnt be any conditions. It shouldnt be any different from Civil Servants, from anybody else in the country. And they shouldnt be asked work in conditions asked to work in conditions which are unhealthy , insanitary, which are unhealthy, insanitary, or if were buildings had to be closed down and were just seeing too much of this and the government letting the Water Companies away with it, when, you know, ceos are being paid huge bonuses and families are frightened to let the children swim in the sea , even your dog swim in the sea, even your dog agrees. Agrees. Im glad to see im glad to see you have the same problem as the rest of us when youre trying to do interviews from home. Its very difficult when youve got a or an amazon youve got a dog or an amazon delivery. Always find. Yeah. Delivery. I always find. Yeah. Now christina, even when theyre on a scene, a cynic might say , well, you know what might say, well, you know what a surprise. Theres loads of effluent in politics, loads of effluent in politics, loads of effluent in politics, loads of effluent in westminster, but specifically whats happening is, is this blocked drains . I mean, what kind of things are happening on government premises . Well, 7 well, its 7 well, its a 7 well, its a variety of things which are leading to these leaks and its , you know, these leaks and its, you know, its not acceptable that its happening anywhere. And its another sort of indication of the fact that the government is another problem theyre not getting to grips with. Nothings getting to grips with. Nothings been done to clamp down on the fact that, as i said, you know, the Water Companies are making profits. They are paying vast bonuses, and yet families are afraid to go swimming in the sea. As i said, this summer, the first summer would have been complete free to feel that they could go on holiday. And weve had quite good weather some of the time. And not able to make the time. And not able to make the time. And not able to make the most of it. And thats unacceptable. Now to see that people are also getting it in their workplace. Were not safe their workplace. Were not safe that simply not good enough. And the government needs to get to gnps the government needs to get to grips with this. Grips with this. Yeah, and the governments blaming excessive rainfall. I mean, they blame excessive leaves, they blame excessive snow. They blame anything but themselves. But excessive rainfall is basically causing the system to overflow its breakfast. I wont go into too much detail, but on the broader point of effluent in the sea , point of effluent in the sea, which is something much more concerning to people , especially concerning to people, especially dunng concerning to people, especially during holiday season, my kids are about to go to pembrokeshire. Theyll be straight there. Whos pembrokeshire. Theyll be strblame there. Whos pembrokeshire. Theyll be strblame for there. Whos pembrokeshire. Theyll be strblame for all there. Whos pembrokeshire. Theyll be strblame for all ofthere. Whos pembrokeshire. Theyll be strblame for all of this . Whos pembrokeshire. Theyll be strblame for all of this . Ishos pembrokeshire. Theyll be strblame for all of this . Is itys to blame for all of this . Is it the government or is it the Water Companies . Is it a bit of both . What could be done both . And what could be done about it . Its a bit of both. The Water Companies really need to be operating in this and the government seems to hide behind operating in this and the govfact|ent seems to hide behind operating in this and the gov fact that seems to hide behind operating in this and the govfact that itsns to hide behind operating in this and the gov fact that its victorianz behind the fact that its victorian engineering. Investment engineering. But investment wasnt at the right time. Wasnt made at the right time. Weve now got massive problem weve now got a massive problem and needs to and the government needs to ensure that the money that we all to the Water Companies all pay to the Water Companies is towards the repairs. Is directed towards the repairs. Its directed towards doing something it. Its not something about it. Its not good enough see that were good enough to see that were monitoring we know how bad monitoring it. We know how bad it is. The reason for monitoring it is. The reason for monitoring it should be to fix it and the government needs to ensure that the is directed towards the money is directed towards doing that that, you know , doing that and that, you know, profits take second place to ensuring that people, families , ensuring that people, families, children, pets are safe in our waters and are rivers. You know, waters and are rivers. You know, some of our clean beaches that had clean beach awards. And now you wouldnt you wouldnt want to paddle in them. Never mind swim. Okay christine, on a change of tack now , you may have change of tack now, you may have seen gb news yesterday delivered our petition of 300,000 signatures to 11 downing street. Our campaign of dont kill cash. Our campaign of dont kill cash. Can you give me a picture cash. Can you give me a picture of how important cash still is to people in scotland and in your constituency in edinburgh . Your constituency in edinburgh . West cash still has a place in peoples lives, doesnt it . Peoples lives, doesnt it . Well, Massive Police and you know , a lot of us during covid know, a lot of us during covid got used to not carrying cash and now were finding that we go into places and say, well, if you dont get cash and its massively important to lots more traders, taxi drivers, pensioners are finding it increasingly difficult. They increasingly difficult. They want cash. And where are they going to get it . In my constituency, theres one bank where if you live at one end of it, in one of the communities South Queensferry , if youre a South Queensferry, if youre a customer of that bank, you will have to travel into the centre of the city about 7 or 8 miles to get an, you know, a machine where you can get money from the wall to get a bank branch thats your bank branch. And people do still like to have money to have the security of knowing that theyve got it there. If for some reason with a lot of these electronic means of being there, adds the wi fi can feel it can be range, you need the cash for and the government have taken so to long realise that this is a problem kind of has me stumped because i remember not long after i was first elected in 2017 and the royal bank of scotland was talking about closing down branches and then other banks started talking, withdrawing this to the government attention and saying, look, youre going to get into this where people will this situation where people will not access to cash and its not have access to cash and its taken this long actually taken this long to actually realise and talk about doing something about it. Realise and talk about doing something about it. Superb, brilliant. Great to talk to you always is. Christine jardine , thanks is. Christine jardine, thanks very much. Youre welcome. Very much for joining very much. Youre welcome. Very much forjoining us here. Please stay with us. Dont go anywhere. This is gb news breakfast. Breakfast. The temperatures rising , boxt the temperatures rising, boxt solar proud sponsors of weather on. Gb news. On. Gb news. Hello. Very good morning to you. Its Aidan Mcgivern here from the met office its a windy start to the day. And youll noļ¬ce start to the day. And youll notice the humidity out there, even if its not especially sunny, that humidity along with some instability courtesy of low pressure to the southwest, leading to the risk of thunderstorms across central and southern parts during the morning this morning, could cause some impacts with frequent lightning intense lightning and some intense bursts as always, bursts of rain. But as always, these will be hit these thunderstorms will be hit and tend to die and miss and they do tend to die away they push north away as they push north eastwards during morning. Eastwards during the morning. Northern fine. Northern scotland staying fine. Southwest fine southwest england largely fine as sunshine coming as well. Some sunshine coming through, a lot of cloud and through, but a lot of cloud and a strong wind, especially for northwest 50 mile per northwest wales, 50 mile per hour gusts could impact hour wind gusts could impact people holidays. For people on their holidays. For example, well , it gets example, then, well, it gets very lively overnight , example, then, well, it gets very lively overnight, a band of heavy rain moves into southwest areas that pushes into the rest of england , into northern of england, into northern ireland, southern scotland by midnight at same time, midnight. And at the same time, theres risk of some serious theres the risk of some serious thunderstorms developing across eastern frequent eastern england. Frequent lightning, intense lightning, large hail, intense outbreaks of rain. Its also outbreaks of rain. Its also going to be a windy night and a muggy night, 1819 celsius across some parts of southern uk and mid to teens, widely by mid to high teens, widely by dawn many parts of the dawn across many parts of the country. Heavy, persistent rain then moves into parts of scotland , especially the north scotland, especially the north and the east. Further spells of rain or showers across northern ireland, the of scotland ireland, the rest of scotland and a quieter and Northern England. A quieter picture rest england picture for the rest of england and sunny spells and and wales. Sunny spells and showers and large, and still showers by and large, and still some warmth in that sun in the south east. Highs of 25 or 26 degrees. Degrees. The temperatures rising, boxt solar proud sponsors of weather on. Gb news. Hello. Good morning. Its 9 00 on friday. The 18th of august. Today the government has laid out steps to protect the use of cash across the country after gb news is dont kill Cash Campaign reached over three 300,000 signatures before being delivered to number 11 and tributes have poured in after former talk show host and legendary journalist sir Michael Parkinson died at the age of 88. We will look back at the life of a National Treasure , and gb of a National Treasure, and gb news can reveal there have been over 25,000 migrant crossings alone since rishi sunak entered number ten. Our new political editor, Christopher Hope, will be joining us shortly with more on that. And the weekend is on the way. How will the weather look this time . Well, heres Aidan Mcgivern from the met office with more. With more. The humidity is rising low pressure is edging closer. Some very lively weather expected later today. Ill have more in the forecast. The forecast. Well, anyway, youve got a warm and welcome. Good morning from us. Im anne diamond. From us. Im anne diamond. And im Martin Daubney and this is breakfast on news. Have you ever been asked for your or a level results at all in adult life . Dave says, when i in adult life . Dave says, when i was a Grammar School in the 50s and 60s only two pupils got the equivalent of a star and their names were written on the School Honours board. Yeah, and paul in northumberland is saying i left school at 16 with five gcses, got job almost immediately and got a job almost immediately and started paying into pension started paying into a Pension Scheme at 17 with a target of retiring at 50. Wow. By the time my future wife left further education at 23 and took her first job, ive been in work for six years, was building up a nice pension and bought a car and my first house and i did write hire at 50. And at that time my wife still wasnt earning as much as was. Time my wife still wasnt earning as much as was. Paul earning as much as i was. Paul harold. Well done, mate. Yeah, just shows. Gareth bridgend im just shows. I sareth bridgend im just shows. I went bridgend im just shows. I went to bridgend im just shows. I went to a ridgend im just shows. I went to a grammar im just shows. I went to a Grammar School. 71. I went to a Grammar School. Ive never been asked for, oh, or a level results or even certificate. I still have them though, just in case. And on the thorny and 71 and on the thorny and divisive topic of the womens football lionesses on sunday, fiona says, im with martin on the football. Womens football has still got a long way to catch up with the men. You just had to say that, didnt you . Okay. To our top story this morning, gb newss dont kill Cash Campaign apparently already yielding results overnight. The treasury has announced plans to assure access to cash facilities more than 300,000 lovely people signed the petition to save pound sterling coins and banknotes from extinction. And slow. What is obviously going to be a move in the end to a Cashless Society. Cashless society. Yesterday, gb news presenters delivered the petition in person to the treasury at number 11 downing street and within a matter of hours they said that they will require people and businesses to be no more than three miles away from a cash withdrawal or deposit centre. And they will even give the Financial Conduct Authority powers to find banks who dont comply. So all looking good so far. Far. Our east Midlands Reporter will hollis is in nottingham for us this morning. Will what are people saying up there . People saying up there . Well, the turnaround was quite quick, wasnt it . Less than 24 hours and there was some sort of a response from the government. Weve been talking government. Weve been talking about it for months now, dont kill cash and the people that are affected by a Cashless Society or a move towards a Cashless Society, one of the people here in nottingham that works with cash in cash alone is a net. Youve got the high street flower barrow here in nottingham city centre. Youve actually got a sign that says cash only. Just describe for me why do want to have a cash why do you want to have a cash only business . Why do you want to have a cash only businesl . Why do you want to have a cash only businesi find that cash is because i find that cash is king cards are control and also so with me going cash only, i can be very competitive, which which is needed out on the streets because the town centre is littered with supermarkets that also sell flowers. So i need to be competitive because people spend car used cards in supermarkets as opposed to cash because they dont like to carry cash around for safety reasons and maybe because they dont have the cash. So therefore with me being cash only i can sell ten stems in my bouquets for Ā£5. Whereas if you go to supermarket youll probably get five stems for Ā£10. So thats the difference. If they want to have cash only, then they get competitive prices. Competitive prices. So youd be paying more if you took card payments. If i took card payments, yes, of course i would be paying more for wholesale. Yes i will be paying for wholesale. Yes i will be paying more wholesale , but i paying more wholesale, but i would also be paying bank charges. And thats the charges. And thats the difference. What are your customers think about it. Ever get people saying do you ever get people saying cash oh, im not cash only . Oh, no, im not fussed about ill go fussed about that. Ill go somewhere else. Out of ten. But probably one out of ten. But if they want my flowers and they obviously go and find the cash , obviously go and find the cash, ihave obviously go and find the cash, i have three banks, one on each corner. So therefore its never really a problem. They all see really a problem. They all see my cash only sign they dont come back when they see what theyre getting for Ā£5. And the news today is that the government is going be the government is going to be putting so putting in some protections so that within three miles of big population there population centres there are cash machines. I think that would be really good for people like you. Annette, thank you so much speaking us this much for speaking to us this morning on gb news. Morning here on gb news. Of course were be course were going to be speaking people throughout speaking to people throughout nottingham and the country today to cash plays role in to see how cash plays a role in their and their day their businesses and their day to lives. To day lives. Thank you. Wallace from well, thank you. Wallace from nottingham. Thats the Market Square around the square there just around the corner of the statue of brian clough. Theres a bloke who likes cash his likes a bit of cash in his pocket, weve got another pocket, and weve got another one in the studio here. Our economics Business Editor economics and Business Editor liam were there Liam Halligan, you were there yesterday door yesterday thundering on the door with farage turner with nigel farage bev turner patrick christys. Michelle dewberry. The mood dewberry. What what was the mood like ground there like on the ground there and most had most importantly, this has had a really quick impact overnight. Gb leading the way. I think gb news leading the way. I think thats objectively fair. What you just said , maybe not what you just said, maybe not the on door like the thundering on the door like polite chat. Thats what i wanted to well, thats what i wanted to ask. Do you have to ring them first and say were coming down to deliver a petition . Well, knew were well, they knew we were because wed talking about because wed been talking about it media. So how how it on social media. So how how good would they look if we go there and no one answers . Well, i know. Wouldnt that be embarrassing . Servants . So Civil Servants . Exactly. So why this campaign . Why are we doing this campaign . Were campaign why are we doing this campaign . Were while campaign why are we doing this campaign . Were while many|paign why are we doing this campaign . Were while many ofign why are we doing this campaign . Were while many of us will be because while many of us will be thinking , because while many of us will be thinking, but i just want to pay contactless , its inevitable. Contactless, its inevitable. There are almost 2 Million People in this country, 2 million households where no one has a bank account because they cant get a bank account. There are 10 of households in the uk , almost 3 million that dont have regular access to the internet. They cannot shop onune internet. They cannot shop online easily. They cannot become part of this Cashless Society. Many of these people society. Many of these people are elderly , but many of them are elderly, but many of them arent. Many of them are just struggling and vulnerable and decent people. So what we wanted to do as we move away from cash , given the huge vested interests who want that to happen, banks who dont happen, the big banks who dont want to handle the cash, the big retailers dont handle the retailers who dont handle the cash, who want cash, the tech giants who want to everything we to monitor everything that we shop online they can shop for online so then they can sell pattern of behaviour sell that pattern of behaviour to Marketing Companies who to other Marketing Companies who can try flog us things can then try and flog us things that cant afford. We at gb that we cant afford. We at gb news feel that weve to news feel that weve got to stick people who want to stick up for people who want to keep and guess what . When keep cash and guess what . When we launched this campaign , there we launched this campaign, there were certain regulatory eyebrows cast in the direction of this channel. There was much sneering from media london centric media. Collazo who cares about cash . These people just dont understand ordinary life in the uk and lets have a look. Now lets just take one moment. This young news channel, what the treasury has said about us this morning. Lets have a look at morning. Lets have a look at this graphic. This is from Andrew Griffiths, whos economic secretary to the treasury, who i can tell you is probably the most financially literate person in government. Hes had a distinguished career, distinguished business career, gb news has its spot on, says Andrew Griffiths, economic secretary to the treasury. Access to cash is incredibly important to many. Its a choice that we are going to protect. That we are going to protect. People shouldnt to trek people shouldnt have to trek for hours withdraw a tenner, for hours to withdraw a tenner, to put in someones birthday card, nor should businesses have to travel large distances to deposit takings. Thats why deposit cash takings. Thats why we, the government, are acting now to protect access to cash in law and laying out that this means fee free withdrawals and the availability of cash facilities within a reasonable distance. I live in a prosperous market town. Im lucky enough to have done pretty well in life. My town has the first ever barclays bank. Its just closed. Oh, this is a prosper market town in the southeast of england. Yeah, i talked to farmers, local people. Thats farmers, local people. Thats when you live outside the m25 , when you live outside the m25, you tend to mix a lot more with people from across society. And people from across society. And Small Businesses are tearing their hair out. The difficulties they have of depositing cash. They have of depositing cash. Market traders are tearing their hair out. Why . Because they use hair out. Why . Because they use these machines , these card these machines, these card payment machines. Once cash is gone, how much does the card Payment Company to Payment Company is going to charge them . Five, six, seven, 10 . Well, they can charge what they want. Once theyve got you. Well, they charge what well, they can charge what they this is the they want. And this is the thing. There are fca regulations about what these companies about what these Card Companies should they flout should charge, but they flout the know the law because they know to come after them. So much come after them. Theres so much hassle. You going do hassle. What are you going to do retrospectively to them to retrospectively to get them to refund sections of refund small sections of billions previous transactions . Its interesting you say that about the banks i live about the banks closing. I live in small village which in a small village which actually quite a lot of actually has quite a lot of people who would like a people in it who would like a bank. We had a bank. It closed down about three, 4 2, maybe three ago. It is now two three years ago. It is now two houses. What was the bank . So weve lost a real important facility. So the bank sold that prime real estate and flogged it to a developer who then flogged it to people who wanted to buy houses. There look, if you have a banking licence, it is basically a licence to print money, right . It is literally a licence to create money. If you have that licence, you should have a universal service obligation. Universal service obligation. You have to provide banking facilities within geographic areas. The government has now recognised after huge behind the scenes advocacy , by the way, and scenes advocacy, by the way, and you should also have a universal obugaļ¬on you should also have a universal obligation to provide how, however vulnerable , however however vulnerable, however unattractive commercially with baļ¬c unattractive commercially with basic banking facilities. Basic banking facilities. Okay, liam, quick impact, big win for gb news. But is the work just beginning . Weve got to make sure we hold these people to account and keep pushing on this on this petition. Absolutely. And lets lets get the petition up to 400, 500,000. Lets get it up to a million, because while i respect what Andrew Griffiths has done there, hes fought a battle within for this within government for this because say, there huge because as i say, there are huge vested interests pushing in the other to him. Vested interests pushing in the other to to him. Vested interests pushing in the other to the to him. Vested interests pushing in the other to the advisers him. Vested interests pushing in the other to the advisers that ive chapo to the advisers that ive been talking to over recent weeks. Is its obviously weeks. But it is its obviously important. Its on the treasurys masthead, but it is just a press release. We need to see this actioned. And then once the regulations and laws have changed, as said to you, an changed, as i said to you, an they need to be imposed. There needs vigilance about needs to be vigilance about this. Many people want to this. So many people want to withdraw bank of facilities, want to withdraw cash. Gb want to withdraw cash. Gb news is up for the millions is standing up for the millions who dont Liam Halligan excellent stuff. Who dont Liam Halligan excy thank stuff. Who dont Liam Halligan excythank you. Who dont Liam Halligan excythank you very much for thank you very much for joining show today. Joining on the show today. Going back well, were going back to downing actually downing street actually right now, time for now, but this time for a different reason. Our political ednon different reason. Our political editor, legendary editor, the legendary christopher is live for us Christopher Hope, is live for us now at number with some now at number 10 with some exclusive revelations about the Prime Ministers stop the boats pledge. A very good morning to you, christopher. What can you tell us about the boats and whether or not anything substantial is being done. Substantial is being done. Well, you remember from last week the figure of illegal crossings over the channel went above 100,000. And that was over five years. But what alarmingly for rishi sunak is today, we are about probably to pass the 25,000 figure crossing since he became Prime Minister at the end of october last year. Became Prime Minister at the end of october last year. That means of october last year. That means that i of october last year. That means that 1 in 4 of all those crossings have happened since he was behind me in 10 downing street back in january. He said he was stop the boat. So thats one of his five pledges for this yeah one of his five pledges for this year. Its a reminder of how this really is on this idea this really is on him, this idea that he cant really secure that southern the border southern border. The border which many people felt would have secure have been made secure post brexit when we were told would be trying to protect the border this border and make sure that this couldnt. And couldnt happen again. And thats i think it will be an thats why i think it will be an unwelcome reminder today for sunak gets ready for the sunak as he gets ready for the World Cup Final with his bunting on sunday. To get crack on sunday. Hes got to get crack down and deal with issue. Down and deal with this issue. The problem got is the the problem hes got is the whole policy is tied in the whole policy is tied up in the courts. This rwanda plan, the idea you break the of idea that you break the model of these by these people traffickers by sending people who arrive here straight to rwanda for processing, in court processing, thats in the court. Wont be decided, im. And that wont be decided, im told, december. Thats told, until december. Thats four more months of nothing happening on this policy. Four more of labour leaping on more months of labour leaping on these figures as evidence of government failure. Government failure. Hundred thousand mark was passed last week. Thats in numbers of dinghy arrivals since 2018, 25,000 on rishis watch the bibby stockholm catastrophe, the bibby stockholm catastrophe, the only boat theyve managed to stop now Ā£500 million going to france. And the numbers are going up. Do you think rishi sunak might live to regret saying he can stop the boats or is he just like king canute . Hes shouting at a tide. He has no power over. No power over. Stop the boats, martin is a pledge with no time, no ending. He said hell stop the boats, but not this year. At some point in the future, if he gets there by the next election, which is due to be summer or next due to be next summer or next autumn, itll be amazing. I literally boats. Thats literally stop the boats. Thats thats going to be a of thats going to be a hell of a heck of a challenge for him. But i think trying to show hes i think hes trying to show hes trying it. But i think trying to do it. But i think a lot of people who support the tory party want them to do better in the polls. Theyre telling want to see a telling me they want to see a vision from mr sunak, an idea what wants to do beyond the what he wants to do beyond the election. Some sunny uplands to starting way, starting raining. By the way, its here either, its not very sunny here either, but of hope. And he but some idea of hope. And he hasnt yet. Hasnt offered it yet. Okay, christopher, thanks very indeed. Let you very much indeed. Well let you get the rain. Nice to see get out of the rain. Nice to see the behind you. Support the bunting behind you. Support meeting lionesses on sunday meeting the lionesses on sunday morning, to morning, right . Were going to be you in a couple of be back with you in a couple of moments, talking our moments, talking about our memories parky or or. Or or. Or. Or or. Or or. Or. Hello again. 9 18. Tributes still pouring in for sir Michael Parkinson , of course, one of parkinson, of course, one of britains most celebrated broadcasters. And we all gather yesterday that he had died at the age of 88. Yeah, and its Television Career spanning seven decades, sir michael fondly called parky by friends and fans. And thats basically all of us. Hi, everybody. Yeah. Became one of the greatest interviewers of all time, if not the greatest, for this long running chat show. Yeah. Stephanie takyi is with us. Parky as well. Us. Called him parky as well. When you met him, i expected you because just had that because hes so i just had that feeling endearment towards feeling of endearment towards him and he was so welcome. Had northern he had that northern hospitality just every time i spoke to him. He was just very spoke to him. He was just very kind, very authentic, as many people have said. And it was so weird to be interviewing him because there you are. You can see youre in the same colour theyre interviewing parky. Parky. Just think to myself, and i just think to myself, its one of those things. He was a legend and he actually deserves and that deserves that name. And that title. You can imagine, title. And as you can imagine, theres many people across theres so many people across theres so many people across the whove been the showbiz industry whove been leading tributes, including stephen , who was interviewed stephen fry, who was interviewed by park. And he said it was simple. Was impossibly simple. He was impossibly thrilling. Then weve had thrilling. And then weve had twiggy lawson who said he was a wonderful listener and a true gentleman. And but whats been gentleman. And but whats been quite heartbreaking dickie quite heartbreaking is dickie bird, former cricket bird, whos the former cricket umpire spoke him the day umpire. He spoke to him the day before yes. He before he died. Yes. And he said, you know , he was they said, you know, he was they cracked jokes together. Cracked a few jokes together. But he was coming off but he said as he was coming off the had a feeling that the phone, he had a feeling that was the last time he was going to speak to parky. They had been friends 74 years. And friends for 74 years. And had grown teenagers together grown up as teenagers together in there are people in barnsley. So there are people who have known and loved him in a personal capacity. I thats lovely to see i think thats lovely to see you. Got the dickie you. That youve got the dickie bird since they bird whos known him since they were spoke to him on were kids and spoke to him on the yeah. And then all the last day. Yeah. And then all of the celebrities because so many not just celebrities, but people people people were interesting people that had interviewed that parker had interviewed and many often because they many times often because they liked interviewed by parky liked being interviewed by parky and build that trust with and to build that trust with celebrity is very hard, especially this day and age. Especially in this day and age. Really did set the he really did set the precedence. You know, when precedence. And, you know, when a trust with a celebrity can trust you with their story, it says a lot about your character as well. And you know , he did receive know, he did receive a knighthood in 2008 for his work decades of work. And he said he never expected to be knighted. He thought he would more turn into a martian than receive a knight, but that would have meant an awful lot to him because was a patriot as because he was a patriot as well, wasnt he . He very proud of being a he was very proud of being a yorkshireman , also yorkshireman, but also being a brit with and with with brit and with and with with muhammad ali. Not even joe frazier i mean, not even joe frazier got through four rounds with with mohammed ali, but pocketed four he it. And what four times. He did it. And what was about that was fascinating about that was watching how grew , you watching how they both grew, you know, the muhammad, you know, he was deteriorating towards the end his condition. End because of his condition. And such a warmth and there was such a warmth between them because they had a depth and a length of friendship. And thats the beauty of an interview you really interview when you really connect someone, it goes connect with someone, it goes beyond trying to impress the audience. Genuine audience. Does that genuine connection. And think that is connection. And i think that is what sir Michael Parkinson had. Yes, he very famous as yes, he was very famous as well interviewing catherine well for interviewing catherine bramwell. Who was the bramwell. Booth who was the salvation army. She was from the family. She was the daughter of the family, founded the salvation army. She was a very old lady when he interviewed her, but she got her he got her eyes to twinkle. They sort of enjoyed making little jokes with each other. It was one of the its probably on youtube somewhere. And if it is, i highly recommend it. One of the best bits of television youve ever seen in your life. Parky interviewing her and she wasnt a celebrity. She was just an amazing person. And i think thats what people forget. Like he interviewed all walks of life, not just celebrities as well. And honest, was always and to be honest, i was always secretly for his show to secretly hoping for his show to come back on because after he battled prostate in 2013, battled Prostate Cancer in 2013, he he had no intentions of he said he had no intentions of retiring. So i kind of secretly wanted him to come back on screen. Screen. It was really moving early. We spoke to sir michael grade. Grady is now. Lord grady is now. Lord grady is now. And he said said, we yeah. And he said he said, we wont porkies like again wont see porkies like again because of the change in celebrity culture, the desire for soundbites. You know, we dont long form more dont get this long form more intimate conversational, intimate, more conversational, more approach. And he more personable approach. And he said we wont see his like again, which in a sense is sad, but you can get it. Yes and i dont think thats it. If things go in trends and there will one day be another great interviewer like parky , but it interviewer like parky, but it probably needs somebody to come up naturally just because he came out of nowhere. He was just a journalist working on local papers and things like that. But then suddenly its as though the spotlight all spotlight found him. Weve all got favourite photographs of got our favourite photographs of ourselves i got to know ourselves with i got to know parky pretty well because he was one of the original famous five. And then i came in as the new blood and when we went out to australia he joined me out in australia. He and his wife mary joined me on the evening i think of our wedding, my wedding. They of our wedding, my wedding. They didnt wedding, but didnt make the wedding, but they buffet they did make the buffet afterwards. And there they are afterwards. And there they are in our house in sydney and theres parky at the front there and theres i like, i treasure that photograph even more now. That photograph even more now. Thats me. Well, darling , i was thats me. Well, darling, i was once and we met up again just a few years ago and he was always generous and always fun to know. And he had a lovely smile. Yeah, yeah, smile. And of course, as we pay tribute to him as as the nation does, all you can say is, you know, our sympathies go to mary very long marriage with Mary Parkinson , very successful parkinson, very successful marriage. And three sons who will all be feeling terrible probably, hopefully wont be watching the television or reading the papers. But his face reading the papers. But his face is everywhere in the papers and its lovely to be able to pay tribute to marvellous tribute to him. Marvellous marvellous body of work. You have to give , as say, where have to give, as they say, where its yeah its due. Yeah stephanie, thanks for joining us this morning and its been a wonderful moment. Been wonderful moment. Youve been sharing your. Wonderful moment. Youve been shayeah your. Wonderful moment. Youve been shayeah its your. Wonderful moment. Youve been shayeah its been a lovely yeah its been a lovely program. So all we can say is well do it again tomorrow, if you be six. You like. Well be here at six. Wont we us again . Right wont we join us again . Right now, newsroom now, its britains newsroom with and emily. With tom and emily. Thats right. Thats right. Big show coming up today. Lots stuck into and lots to get stuck into and kicking with an enormous kicking off with an enormous exclusive from our very own new political editor, chris hope. It turns out that 25,000 migrants have crossed the channel illegally since rishi sunak took office. And the uks birth rate has collapsed. Well be digging into collapsed. Well be digging into the statistics and finding out what that means for britain. What that means for britain. All thats coming up right after these messages. A brighter after these messages. A brighter outlook with boxt solar proud sponsors of weather on. Gb news. Hello. Very good morning to hello. Very good morning to you. Its Aidan Mcgivern here from the met office. Its a windy start to the day and youll notice the humidity out there, even if its not especially sunny. That humidity, especially sunny. That humidity, along with some instability courtesy of low pressure to the southwest leading to the risk of thunderstorms across central and southern parts during the morning this morning could cause some impacts with frequent lightning some intense lightning and some intense bursts. But as always, bursts of rain. But as always, these thunderstorms we hit and miss do tend die miss and they do tend to die away they north away as they push north eastwards during morning. Eastwards during the morning. Northern fine. Northern scotland staying fine. Southwest england largely fine as coming as well. Some sunshine coming through, cloud and through, but a lot of cloud and a wind, especially for a strong wind, especially for northwest 50 mile northwest wales, 50 mile per hour wind could impact hour wind gusts could impact people holidays. For people on their holidays. For example , then, it gets example, then, well, it gets very lively overnight. A band of heavy rain moves into southwestern areas that pushes into the rest of england. Its into the rest of england. Its northern ireland, southern scotland by midnight. And at the same theres the risk of same time, theres the risk of some serious thunderstorms developing across eastern england. Frequent lightning, large outbreaks of large hail, intense outbreaks of rain. Its also going to be a windy night and a muggy night, 18, 19 celsius across some parts of southern uk and mid to high teens, widely by dawn across many parts of the country. Heavy, persistent rain then moves parts of scotland , moves into parts of scotland, especially the north and the east. Spells of rain or east. Further spells of rain or showers across northern ireland. The of scotland, the rest of scotland, Northern England quieter for england are quieter picture for the rest england and wales. The rest of england and wales. Sunny and showers by and sunny spells and showers by and large, still some warmth in large, and still some warmth in that sun in the south east. Highs of 25 or 26 degrees , a highs of 25 or 26 degrees, a brighter outlook with boxt solar proud sponsors of weather on. Or or oror. Or or. Or oror. Or. Or or. Or. Where or or. Or. Where good morning. It or or. Or. Where good morning. It is or or. Or. Where good morning. It is 9 30 or or. Or. Where good morning. It is 9 30 am. On friday, the 18th of august. And this is britains newsroom here on gb news. My name is tom harwood and im with emily carver. You are indeed. Now, dont you are indeed. Now, dont kill the news. Big campaign took to downing street yesterday. Who petition amassed over 300,000 signatures so far. Petition amassed over 300,000 signatures so far. And just signatures so far. And just hours after our team hand delivered the petition, the treasury has announced measures to protect cash baby bust births i rates in england and wales have dropped their lowest levels in 20 years. So why arent we having babies . Should we be having babies . Should we be having babies . Should we be having more of them . And what will happen to britain if we dont . Hm and gp gridlock. The government is moving to tackle the 8 am. Scramble to speak to a gp. There are plans to increase access to doctors from march 2024, but will it make a difference with nhs waiting lists being seemingly never ending . Well hear from a gp on what