I nigel, thank you. Well, the top story tonight on gb news is that we can exclusively reveal 80 migrants are currently being housed at a former raf base in essex. Housed at a former raf base in essex. Its more than housed at a former raf base in essex. Its more than a month after the first group of migrants arrived there, the wethersfield base near braintree in essex is meant to house up to 1700 people. The home office says therell be a gradual increase in the numbers, but sources suggest the pace will be significantly slower than was first envisioned. The site has had problems with disease amongst the first group of arrivals and there are problems with the utilities not working properly and gb news can reveal 550 people have crossed the engush 550 people have crossed the English Channel in ten small boats over the last 24 hours. That brings the number of migrants whove made the journey this year to more than 17,500 uk border force say theyre on red alert during an extremely busy time for migrants. A significant surge in crossings is expected as well this weekend as weather conditions improve. Now, as conditions improve. Now, as youve been hearing, gb news has delivered the dont kill cash petition to downing street this morning. The chancellor, jeremy morning. The chancellor, jeremy hunt, receiving almost 300,000 signatures from our presenters. Signatures from our presenters. On behalf of viewers and listeners whove joined the campaign, the letter calls on the government to protect the status of cash as legal tender and a widely accepted form of payment until at least 2050. The Saudi Crown Prince has reportedly been invited to visit the uk , rishi sunak and mohammed the uk, rishi sunak and Mohammed Bin Salman spoke earlier today to discuss trade investment , to discuss trade investment, defence and security cooperation. The Saudi Crown Prince has been accused of ordering the assassination of the Washington Post writer Jamal Khashoggi at the saudi consulate in istanbul in 2018, a charge he has denied. And tributes have been paid today to the legendary broadcaster sir Michael Parkinson , whos died after parkinson, whos died after a short illness at the age of 88. Sir michael became one of the countrys most famous faces through his long running tv talk show, interviewing some of the worlds biggest stars, including muhammad ali and billy connolly. Comedian stephen fry described him as an authentic genius and that for him, it had been impossibly thrilling to be a guest on the parkinson show. Sir David Attenborough has also said sir michael went beyond region or class. He was just himself. He died at home, surrounded by his family. You with gb news his family. You with gb news across the uk, on your tv, in your car, on your Digital Radio and now on your Smart Speaker by saying play gb news. This is britains news. Saying play gb news. This is britains news. Channel good evening. Well, gb news good evening. Well, gb news is dont kill Cash Campaign has been going really rather well. Our petition on the gb news website is now just a whisker under 300,000 of you that have signed up. And we thought at the moment was right to go to downing street today and to deliver it, not to number 10, where most petitions go, but to number 11 to the chancellor of the exchequer and, you know, the campaign were saying we want legal tender to remain legal tender and we fear were being dnven tender and we fear were being driven towards a cashless society. So i was honoured to take that envelope on your behalf. Its you that signed this petition with my fellow gb news presenters and albeit the chancellor wasnt in residence. Hes probably on hols somewhere , but a chap at the door looked he looked a bit sheepish, but he did take the petition. Now what did take the petition. Now what is interesting is with this and with the de banking row that ive been leading, i think were actually beginning to get somewhere because and this is embargoed until 1030 tonight, so theres not an awful lot i can say. But but but andrew griffith, the city minister, will appear tonight at 1030 with a message , which is that the a message, which is that the government is going to instruct the fca and the banks that they must allow interview rules and businesses reasonable access to putting cash into banks and to taking cash out of banks , and taking cash out of banks, and also an instruction to the fca to make sure that the banks keep cash services. Now, what that will actually mean in the end is anybodys guess. But what it is clear is that Public Opinion is very, very firm behind us on this issue. And the government this issue. And the government for once are are listening. Now its very difficult for Small Businesses who are forced to take credit cards because they finish up, of course, having to pay finish up, of course, having to pay quite big fees. And this i think, is perhaps the reason why gerhard polska, whos the landlord of the griffin pub in brentford, hed rather have cash than pay these big fees. Now, this pub is very much a football pub and he gets big crowds of people in, i think the next game is against palace on the 26th when Brentford Brentford are at home and he has said were offering £0. 50 off every pint if you offering £0. 50 off every pint if you pay offering £0. 50 off every pint if you pay in cash. Well that sounds like my kind of pub and gerhard joins us live from the pub right now. Good evening. Now pub right now. Good evening. Now i understand that the Credit Card Companies charge you fees and that can be many hundreds of pounds every month. But £0. 50 pounds every month. But £0. 50 off a pint. Its a bit rash guard isnt it. No, its not. Weve done this Initiative Last sunday as a trial, as a Small Business as we are, we are a Small Business. We are, we are a Small Business. We are a back street pub in brentford. You want to see you want to find out ways to save money because the cost of living at the moment is incredible. Absolutely incredible. You just absolutely incredible. You just want see you can save want to see where you can save money. We looked through the money. So we looked through the card payments can vary card payments and it can vary from a normal month where the car payments are £400. When the football season starts, the car payments go up to £1,000. So we have to pay £1,000 to get our money back and then knock on effect is that that everyone just pays the cards with credit cards and the fees , like you cards and the fees, like you just said, vary, of course. Do credit cards. Incredible the debit cards, not. Okay. But still, its a burden on you. So because we are small pub and yes football is a massive part of our pub doing the beep. Im cooking. Im the chef in here, you know, and we get all our local products from a local suppliers. So this is your fish, man who has a fishmongers in twickenham. You know, he goes to twickenham. You know, he goes to the every day. Calls the market every day. He calls me. This, this and me. Ive got this, this and this. Cash in hand. The this. Him cash in hand. The reason for that is because we like to pay all our suppliers straight its straight away because its a knock on effect. Its a vicious straight away because its a knock if| effect. Its a vicious straight away because its a knock if we zect. Its a vicious straight away because its a knock if we dont s a vicious straight away because its a knock if we dont pay vicious straight away because its a knock if we dont pay him,js straight away because its a knock if we dont pay him, he circle. If we dont pay him, he cannot the people in the in cannot pay the people in the in the market. Its the same with the market. Its the same with the veg supplier. Its same the veg supplier. Its the same with supplier and its the veg supplier. Its the same witisame supplier and its the veg supplier. Its the same witisame with supplier and its the veg supplier. Its the same witisame with the plier and its the veg supplier. Its the same witisame with the crispin,j its the veg supplier. Its the same witisame with the crispin, the; the same with the crispin, the crispin comes every two crispin comes in every two weeks. The van. He weeks. Hes in the van. He hasnt got any carbon chains. He wants cash. You get your invoice and you him. Thats it. Its and you pay him. Thats it. Its the with the window the same with the window cleaner. The window cleaner hasnt machine with hasnt got a card machine with him. Wants cash, so gives him. He wants cash, so he gives us the invoice. It goes through the business and thats it. Its. Important for its. Its so important for Small Businesses have the Small Businesses to have the cash a lot cash flow going. A lot of businesses because businesses go under because theres and be for theres no cash flow and be for theres no cash flow and be for the years now figured out the best way to do it is all the small suppliers we have. We pay them delivery we have them cash on delivery so we have no end of the month. That no bills end of the month. That means. So not money means. So theres not money going all the in the going in all the time in the bank the banks of course bank and the banks of course challenge you. So the card machine people charge you to get the so them to get the money. So we pay them to get the money. So we pay them to get the them and then the the money from them and then the money goes a Bank Account Money goes into a bank account business account, then the business account, and then the bank again. So a £50 bank charges us again. So a £50 payment, for instance, could turn out if someone gives it to you in cash, youve got £50 to pay you in cash, youve got £50 to pay. Peter, john, everyone. Pay. Adam peter, john, everyone. But if he gets £50 on the card payment that means with all the deductions you got from the banks and the card machine providers that you may only get £47. Thats £3. Yeah. Yeah. Multiply well, i tell you what, times throughout the months its all money thats missing in the end. I tell you what, youve put the case so clearly, so eloquently and youre quite right for Small Businesses, often they have to wait a hell often they have to wait a hell of a long time to get paid. So cash on delivery is good for everybody. Put the case so everybody. You put the case so well that when the fca have their hearing on de banking and cash , im going to try and bring cash, im going to try and bring you along as a witness because you along as a witness because you put the case beautifully. Congratulations on your initiative of £0. 50 off. And hey , i tell you what, if im in your party, if im in your part of the world, im coming in through the front door and i may be there for some time. Its a real pleasure. Its a real pleasure to have you on the program. No problem. No problem. Thank you. Well, that was terrific. It was very, very good terrific. It was very, very good in there. And didnt he explain it now , it really, really well, now, weve been talking about the fca. Weve been talking about because weve been talking about the agenda that has run through much of our corporate world that led directly to my de banking by coates part part of the natwest group. When im joined now by humperdinck jackman, managing director of esg pro limited , a director of esg pro limited, a Global Advisory firm on climate esg , and on becker humperdinck. Esg, and on becker humperdinck. Welcome to the program. Now, nigel, looking at your blurb here and it said about your company, many firms come to us seeking support for their in house sustainability managers. Now i suppose this is english, but what on earth is an in house sustainable city manager . Why do firms need them . Esg has been around since 2004. Nigel it doesnt mean its right, doesnt mean its right. What the problem with esg and all of this woke capitalism. Thats the phrase youve coined. Its brilliant. Corporate woke free. Yep is the Large Corporation are twisting how they how they present themselves. Theyre actually committing a form of fraud. Its greenwashing form of fraud. Its greenwashing and social washing to exaggerate the value of their businesses, their reputations , pretending their reputations, pretending that theyre something theyre not. Right. So they pretend theyre. They pretend theyre doing things for Climate Change and they pretend that theyve got employment policies in line with a variety of quotas on race and sexuality. But what youre saying is theyre not really doing it. The big corporations are fudging it. Theyre supposed to tell you in their reports how many incidents of corruption and discrimination data breaches. Discrimination data breaches. Theyre supposed to tell you how many. What was the outcome . You many. What was the outcome . You know, the facts now theyre just glossing over it and saying, oh , we take we take corruption very seriously. We take your very seriously. We take your privacy seriously. Now, the privacy seriously. Now, the smaller businesses who arent so well financed , they need help well financed, they need help because theyre competing with the big corporations. And to the big corporations. And to level the playing field, they these smaller businesses right these smaller businesses right the way down to micro smes, up to even quite large firms, you know, 1 or 2000 people, they need to level the playing field. They with services such as us, they can actually gain an esg rating, they can compete honestly. And so without i mean, what youre saying to me is that this is now so deeply embedded in the corporate world, in the private sector, that without an esg rating, its tough to get business. It can be very tough. The city of london places are weighting of up to 30 on tenders. Tenders. But this is just short , but this is just short, silly, comforting, insane. Silly, comforting, insane. Surely the basic function of private business is to make profits to operate within the law to and return a dividend or whatever it may be to their investors and shareholders, isnt it . Arent they the fundamental rules upon which we built our economic model make more money . Its good. Now heres the interesting thing. The smaller business is whether they align with esg principles when they do proper reporting. On average proper reporting. On average businesses which have done this generate 67 more return on the equity. Why why theyve done things i Business Continuity planning. Theyve looked at their risks , theyve looked at their risks, theyve looked at their risks, theyve looked at their supply chain. But thats Good Management of a business. Thats what esg is. Well, hang on a second. Theres a big difference here between being well structured and well planned and having contingencies for what may happenin contingencies for what may happen in the market and meeting diversity and inclusion quotas. Theyre Different Things that the corporate pokery would have you believe that esg is all about diversity and inclusion, which is not always a bad thing i we employ disabled people. Great. Yeah thats diversity. Its a good thing. But esg is its a good thing. But esg is also about Good Governance. And also about Good Governance. And if well , Governance Company if well, Governance Company means that, for instance, when the pandemic hit, we all went into lockdown and we couldnt call our bank or we couldnt call our bank or we couldnt call hmrc or anybody else, even the Garden Centre , because they the Garden Centre, because they couldnt transfer a phone call i get is bad governance. I get the g bit of it right governance, Good Governance and Good Business practises and if Companies Like yours are there to help and advise people as to what their new entrance to a marketplace, they want a bit of help. I guess all of that. And i can see that Good Management, good leadership, you know, it makes big difference makes a big difference to a cricket alone to a cricket team, let alone to a good. But good company. But the environmental stuff, the social stuff, the almost pushing people to employ and promote not on the bafis to employ and promote not on the basis of ability, but on the bafis basis of ability, but on the basis of ability, but on the basis of identity. Thats what i have the problem. Me too. All right. Have the problem. Me too. All right. Think this topic scares some clients. What topic scares some clients. What do you mean . We have to just hire the next person who comes in . Because even if theyre not the best qualified look. No, the answer is that is part of what you. You need to look after your people. Esg is about looking after the people you employ , after the people you employ, making sure they dont. You minimise the risk of accident so that you pay a fair wage, that they actually take holiday so they actually take holiday so they get sensible benefit. Thats thats fine. Thats good thats thats fine. Thats Good Governance, thats fine. I havent got a problem with the g bit. I havent got a problem with that. Its the idea thats the social. But the idea thats the social. But the idea that the fca are putting out into the financial industry is that Financial Firms have a responsibility towards the environment and because of that, we finish up with people that are working in the oil industry. For arguments sake, legitimate, legal, necessary being debunked. Thats what im arguing. And whos doing the de banking the organisations who are not being honest in their esg report in the first place. So the whole thing is a corporate fraud from start to finish. Its an accounting fraud at the top or the smaller business. 81 of Consumers Want to buy a sustainable product from a Decent Company who treats people well. Theyre willing to people well. Theyre willing to pay a people well. Theyre willing to pay a 9 premium on average for purchasing those products. So purchasing those products. So now that helps our smaller businesses. You know, the little man out there has grown a business, the small farm which is growing steadily. Maybe it could be employing several hundred people. Construction Companies Love this topic because it actually does win them business. Interesting. Without being. Without being. Yeah, well, i tell you what humperdinck i want to buy line corp mackerel as opposed to mackerel thats been caught in a great big factory ship or mackerel. I havent caught myself. I get the point. We want things that work. I just worry that with b corps and with the reason i was d banks, i worry that maybe this gets taken a bit too far. Fascinating subject. Too far. Fascinating subject. Thank you for coming in and joining me. And that was a different take, wasnt it . That actually, you know, they all talk this language, but in reality many dont reality, many of them dont actually do in a moment, we actually do it. In a moment, we will talk about a level results day. A lot of very disappointed young people radio. All Party Parliamentary groups. There are things that mps join. They often join many of them. It enables in many cases them. It enables in many cases people to travel all over the world on various visits. But some of them seem to have some rather dubious members and rather dubious members and rather dubious members and rather dubious supporters. Gb news. As Charlie Peters investigates just one of them, we have a right to be here. Not because of being british, but were here before you. We but were here before you. We were here before that. But we were here before that. But we have a right to be here because of everything that britain has stolen from us. Yeah black britons need to claim land wherever they are. That is according to esther stanford, cos an activist who helped launch a Parliamentary Group on reparations for slavery and colonialism. So we have to and colonialism. So we have to claim land wherever we are. Stanford cos said black britons had special rights because of colonialism and that African Heritage people were in britain first. The activists charged comments in this south London Square were not a rare outburst. Weve also seen her making. Weve also seen her making claims in online talks at a Panel Discussion , she lamented Panel Discussion, she lamented the corporate white stream media. These are not the ones that often get promoted and certainly not the ones that the corporate white stream media are amplifying. Stanford has also claimed that parts of the black Rights Movement have links to the cia and British Intelligence agencies. This is obviously a good thing, but if you dont realise that its part of an agenda that involves cia and my five m16 and some of us know it very well, okay, thats all i can really say on this platform. Say on this platform. She also made air finger quotes while saying that jews were the most oppressed people on earth. Other panellists at on earth. Other panellists at the event broadcast earlier this year made extraordinary comments that stanford cox did not challenge. One speaker quoted challenge. One speaker quoted biblical scripture that said that jews belonged to the synagogue of satan. Its scripture says. They say they are jews, but they are not jews. And god says, i will make them of the synagogue of satan. Warren alexander dean, who campaigns for a special currency for black businesses, made controversial remarks about gay men. This homosexuality thing is part of the black gene genocide agenda. Labour mp bell ribeiro adi, who spoke alongside stanford in brixton and who chairs the Parliamentary Group, asked the Prime Minister to pledge reparations earlier this year. He said no. Alka segal cuthbert he said no. Alka segal cuthbert from the Campaign Group dont divide us said this was the right move. Right move. The far more worrying problem is the political irresponsibility shown by appg when they take these ideas seriously because these are ideas that are frankly reintroducing racialized thinking into british society. Thinking into british society. Its establishing legitimacy for seeing everything through racialized lens and absolutely no good can come of this at all. Its extremely divisive. It sets its extremely divisive. It sets up not only divisions between black and white citizens, but it also kind of inculcates a hierarchy of oppression amongst ethnic minorities themselves. Ethnic minorities themselves. As stanford shows. Is no longer the Public Inquiry points for the appg, but bell ribeiro adi still spoke alongside her at the event earlier this month in brixton. Many will today be brixton. Many will today be asking why are mps associating with an activist who makes these claims and has these controversial associations , as controversial associations, as Charlie Peters gb news brixton. Charlie peters gb news brixton. Interesting thought. Charlie peters if a white person said i was anything like that, theyd be in prison. I think pretty quickly. Does nobody monitor these appg . Does nobody monitor these appg . Does that mean nobody monitor what mps are setting up and what kind of witnesses theyve got getting involved . There parliamentary there are Parliamentary Groups into and groups that look into them and as there are as we understand, there are hundreds apps, but there are hundreds of apps, but there are prone to fluctuating every year. I few years ago there i mean, a few years ago there were 600 the largest in were over 600 in the largest in the check there under the last check there were under 400. Can come and go 400. So they can come and go very quickly. And many of the members of this particular appg are pizza are on loads. So a pizza bottomley, the conservative mp, the mp on this the only conservative mp on this panel the only conservative mp on this panel, hes a member of 86 app 86, 86, 86. But what he is associating himself with them on all these mps are associating themselves with is this app that was launched in november 21st, 2021, which has a Public Inquiry point link. This woman, Stanford Point link. This woman, stanford esther stanford, who clearly has some extremely controversial claims and links well, not just controversial, but actually plain dangerous. Plain dangerous. So what do you think should happen, charlie . Should parliament these groups parliament regulate these groups better . What needs to happen . Well, them as well, they looked at them as technical but think technical groups, but i think what all often happens what what all too often happens is these groups is that many of these groups avoid scrutiny due to the kind of personalities behind them and indeed due to the kind of ideas they share that escapes scrutiny more widely. They share that escapes scrutiny mo well, ely. I approached they share that escapes scrutiny mo well,ely. I approached all well, when i approached all the mps on this about these the mps on this appg about these comments, about these associations , white stream associations, the white stream media, cia , for all this media, the cia, for all this really extreme rhetoric , yeah, really extreme rhetoric, yeah, none of them wanted to respond to and bella rae birch and to me and bella rae birch and his said that they his staffers said that they didnt information for didnt have any information for me at this time and they sort of left it there. And i think too all when cover these all often when you cover these kind you find that kind of stories, you find that particularly on left particularly people on the left and dealing with stories, and dealing with these stories, they them and kick they just ignore them and kick them the long grass. Them into the long grass. Yeah, awful. Charlie thank you now, you very much indeed. Now, political political political advertising, political rhetoric, we getting too rhetoric, are we getting too soft more soft or are we becoming more sensible . So lets have a look at a poster that was put up many, many years ago by the Scottish National party. And it Scottish National party. And it was in the days of Margaret Thatcher. I want to see the Margaret Thatcher poster, please. So Margaret Thatcher poster went up and im going to show it to you in a second. When they get themselves sorted out and there it is. No wonder shes laughing. Shes got Scotlands Oil and its just sort of a dry, circular type picture. Now i dont think that terribly dont think that was terribly good taste, at the time it good taste, but at the time it was allowed to be an advertisement that went out and we fast forward 35 years and now the alba party, Scottish Nationalist separatists have got their own version. Theyre up to date version and its not very original because its exactly the same as it was many years ago. For the snp, its no wonder hes laughing. Hes got Scotlands Oil and again, a sort of slightly dracula style pose. Stop him join alba and this has now been banned by global the big billboard or the biggest owner of billboards in this country and i wonder are we now showing good taste or are we really getting a bit too soft . Well, the general secretary of the alba party, christopher mcelhinney, joins me right now. Mcelhinney, joins me right now. Now, so it is a provocative poster, isnt it . Well, thats the whole point of advertising is to get people to get them talking about the issue. And obviously the substantive issue that we wanted to talk about was scotlands vast energy resources. You know, the billions billions upon the billions upon billions upon billions of wealth that gordon revenues the treasury of revenues to the treasury of scotland influence on. Scotland have no influence on. And we believe that successive uk governments have been feeding off of Scotlands Oil. The same way. Dracula i thought. I thought. But no, no, no. You want wind energy now theres going to be a green revolution in scotland. Youve all turned your the oil well, just your backs on the oil well, just like england. Your backs on the oil well, just like notengland. Your backs on the oil well, just like not everyone in scotland is not everyone in scotland is part Homogenous Group that part of a Homogenous Group that comes politics. Alba party. Comes to politics. Alba party. We think that that is a sustainable for the we think that that is a susand able for the we think that that is a susand gas for the we think that that is a susand gas industry. R the we think that that is a susand gas industry. You the we think that that is a susand gas industry. You can oil and gas industry. You can benefit from those billions of pounds revenues, but at the pounds of revenues, but at the same a just same time have a Just Transition, has got to be transition, which has got to be credible. Transition credible. A Just Transition isnt transition, isnt an overnight transition, but know, we can invest in but you know, we can invest in Carbon Capture technology that can works can make the if it works everywhere scale, the north everywhere on scale, the north sea as the best place. But, you know, that is separate debate. Know, that is a separate debate. Thats a separate debate and its debate. Very its a good debate. Its a very interesting im interesting debate. And im actually with you. Actually im actually with you. I think that were need i think that were going to need oil for decades to come, oil and gas for decades to come, maybe in decreasing quantities. But we will it and we may but we will need it and we may as well produce it here. Ill tell thats one point. So tell you, thats one point. So i agree that first point, agree with that first point, probably my political probably in my political life that me because that you influenced me because last other day when last week or the other day when global us, can global told us, yes, you can advertise with us, but you cant see. See this. I actually thought of your case coutts bank i case with coutts bank and i thought, well, there was a value decision by private decision made by a private company here someone, company here telling someone, yes, with us under yes, you can bank with us under these know cant. These terms. I know you cant. No weve told that. Yeah, no weve been told that. Yeah, you can put up a poster, but only if its your logo or vote for osborne. Thatd be quite a bonng for osborne. Thatd be quite a boring situation. But i dont think company, think a private company, certainly massive certainly one with a massive footprint britain, should footprint across britain, should be interfere in be allowed to interfere in elections. Got elections. And weve got a by election, course, by election, of course, coming up want put these posters. Very important. We have been told that we can advertise our message to the electorate. Youve got what happens if youve got the election next year the general election next year in well, labour in global decide well, labour messages the tories, messages attacking the tories, can they do messages attacking the own the labour party . They own a massive, absolutely huge. Massive, huge, absolutely huge. Summing up on this, you so summing up on this, you think the thatcher poster and the sunak poster, as far as youre concerned, theyre perfectly fair game in terms of fair game. And the only reason sunak was the poster was because by the time it took us to design the liz truss poster and send it to friends, she was out of office. They never stop having a chip away. I get it. Some would away. But i get it. Some would say our standards have improved since the time of thatchers poster. Well, you know, if i 40 years on the message is the same , £300 on the message is the same, £300 billion in todays money has been taken out of the north sea to the uk treasury. So the message that was the same in the 70s and 80s is exact same to the scotlands wealth has been Scotlands Oil wealth has been seized. You know seized by westminster. You know it. Know what . And it. You know. You know what . And scotland get to spend scotland should get to spend their own money if we draw the boundary from england, boundary up from england, we may have argument. Have a different argument. I think thing england i think one thing england does to be successful does enough to be a successful independent country. The one the one thing nigel, the one the one thing thatis nigel, the one the one thing that is for certain is theres a decades go by the big political debates change very little indeed. Thank you. Thank you for coming and joining us. In coming in and joining us. In a moment, well talk about a level day disappointment our day bit of disappointment in our family morning im in family this morning. Im sure in very others. Two plus and very many others. Two plus and diamond will pay tribute to the late sir Michael Parkinson listening to news radio. We learnt this morning of the death of sir Michael Parkinson after a very short illness aged 88. Of course, a guy from barnsley, a cricket fanatic. He even played in the same team as sir geoffrey boycott. But a man who, of course, reached the most extraordinary level of fame , his extraordinary level of fame, his late night. He did many things in his career, but his late night chat show those legendary interviews with muhammad ali, with rod hall at emu, and he just seemed to be one of those people who was a very, very much loved figure in British National life. And of course, in those life. And of course, in those days , fewer tv channels and just days, fewer tv channels and just huge audiences. And certainly huge audiences. And certainly for a lot of young people growing up and being allowed to stay up and watch parkinson on a saturday night, and it really was a big thing. Well, was quite a big thing. Well, some one that knew Michael Parkinson worked with Michael Parkinson worked with Michael Parkinson indeed gb news parkinson was indeed gb news presenter close friend and presenter and close friend and diamond , who joins me down the diamond, who joins me down the line from home and incredible the amount of space this guy took up in our National Life over the last 50 years. Yeah , because he had a real yeah, because he had a real effect. I mean, i grew up watching him on Late Night Television and then was thrilled to actually work with him at the very beginnings of tv. And he was a wonderful man to know. He was a wonderful man to know. He was very generous. He was very kind. But he he taught us all such a lot about how to do our job. And i dont think he knew he was doing it all the time. He just had this he had this instinct for knowing that if you want to be a good interviewer, yourjob is want to be a good interviewer, your job is to want to be a good interviewer, yourjob is to make your your job is to make your interviewee shine and dazzle. Its not about you, the interviewer. Its about them. And in adversity, he created a huge star in himself because everybody loved him. And the way he did it. He did it. Yeah, its an interesting point, isnt it . Because i think there are Certain Television personalities today about whom it would be said that the interviews are more about them than the than the interviewee. And were not going to mention any names. Of course. But what any names. Of course. But what do you think what was it that gave him that . I mean, youve worked in television for a very, very long time. What was it that gave him that star quality . What was the little bit of was what was the little bit of magic that he had . The little bit of magic he had the fact that he never had was the fact that he never thought that important. Thought he was that important. He knew was just an ordinary he knew he was just an ordinary barnsley , the son and barnsley boy, the son and grandson miner. Yeah. He grandson of a miner. Yeah. He never really thought he deserved that position, he just that position, so he just enjoyed it. He got a kick out of the people that he eventually met and i think they rather liked that he asked the ordinary questions and he asked the questions and he asked the questions that you in your living room wanted him to ask. Living room wanted him to ask. And thats what made it so brilliant. And i was i was reflecting on it today and thinking, when you think of a brilliant Michael Parkinson , an brilliant Michael Parkinson, an interview, youre not thinking of him. Youre thinking of the people he interviewed. Do you think muhammad ali . And, you know, all of those know, i mean, all of those major, names that he major, major names that he sparkled in, but it wasnt because of him. It was because of them. And i think thats his best legacy , is that he left best legacy, is that he left behind this amazing broadcast work of people that he got to tell their story. And his interviews are worth watching. Interviews are worth watching. Yes. Because of him. We know that now. But at the time , he that now. But at the time, he just made the interviewee spark know. And i think that was a brilliant legacy to leave us. And it was a lesson for all of us younger ones. Coming up who just enjoyed his company and enjoyed watching what he did. Enjoyed watching what he did. Yeah, well, i was pleased to meet him several times, but obviously didnt know. And i think like as well as you did. And of course, his big disappointment life was disappointment in life was that he to cricket for he wanted to play cricket for yorkshire. To be a yorkshire. He wanted to be a professional player and professional cricket player and it quite happen. He it didnt quite happen. But he loved game, didnt he . Yeah loved the game, didnt he . Yeah apparently he was very good. He didnt quite make it. But he didnt quite make it. And the other big regret of his life was that he never got to interview Frank Sinatra. Apparently met sinatra at a apparently he met sinatra at a big and he was introduced big party and he was introduced to him and sinatra sort of said, well, one day when well, you know, one day when maybe britain, you know, maybe im in britain, you know, maybe. And at end of the maybe. And at the end of the conversation, he walked away, conversation, as he walked away, Frank Sinatra turned to him and said, was really good meeting Frank Sinatra turned to him and said,david. Really good meeting Frank Sinatra turned to him and said,david. You ly good meeting Frank Sinatra turned to him and said,david. You know,d meeting Frank Sinatra turned to him and said,david. You know, illeeting Frank Sinatra turned to him and said,david. You know, ill trying you, david. You know, ill try and remember and walked and remember you. And walked away. Michael parkinson away. And Michael Parkinson thought, make much thought, oh, i didnt make much of did i . Of an impact then, did i . Because he remembers me david because he remembers me as david and not my. But we all remember him as we do. Well, thank you, anne, for coming on and paying tribute to him. Its a sad day, but a very, very nice tribute. So today was very nice tribute. So today was a level results day. Now, you know, its been quite tough , know, its been quite tough, quite tough for this particular crop because you know, they didnt have they just didnt have proper gcses and these a levels have been marked much , a levels have been marked much, much more harshly than last years. And im joined by sir Anthony Seldon , head of epsom Anthony Seldon, head of epsom college, and of course, former vice chancellor of the university of buckingham. And sir anthony, my daughter got 244 marks in her economics. It was marks in her economics. It was two for five for an a, that was 12 points higher than last years. A grade. Now, im not years. A grade. Now, im not one to whinge, but to this years crop of 18 year olds. One to whinge, but to this years crop of 18 year olds. Do years crop of 18 year olds. Do they have a bit of a reason to moan . Well they have had a really hard time , havent they, really hard time, havent they, because of covid and or the loss of teaching and social relations with their friends. And then they didnt do a proper gcse to have the test to prepare them for a levels. And now absolutely. As you said, the marks have been devalued downwards, so there are far fewer , uh , top grades and fewer, uh, top grades and thats, you know, thats tough for them, by the way, for what its worth, i think its right that the grades are recalibrated back to 2019. Its what university is want. I think its what many schools want so that the huge inflation that happened dunng the huge inflation that happened during covid, you know, its now a thing of the past. But yes , a thing of the past. But yes, its really, really tough on your daughters generation , on your daughters generation, on all the young women and young men at my school. Yeah. And a bit of a row because Gillian Keegan was saying, well, look, dont worry if your a level wasnt what you wanted because in ten years time it really wont matter at all. Does she have half a point there . 7. I . I think that she has a she does have a good point and she has i think shes shown courage in saying that we cant endlessly have inflation. Inflation in in exam grades. A level gcse is like inflation in our money. It makes us feel goodin in our money. It makes us feel good in the short term, but its wrong in the long term because it doesnt have a proper sense of value and comparison. So of value and comparison. So i think the good news is that the great majority of young people who didnt get their grades that they hope for are still getting into their first store insurance. Second choice offers for university. There are lots of university. There are lots of people, therefore, who are very relieved today to get in to and have university laid out for them. With the prospect of 3 or 4 years. But its very tough. You know, its tough for them in view of everything that theyve had. And my heart absolutely had. And my heart absolutely goes to them. Goes out to them. Yeah, absolutely, sir anthony, you for coming anthony, thank you for coming and joining on a level and joining us on this a level results thank you. Yeah, results day. Thank you. Yeah, really tough for this particular crop of 18 year olds. What would gcses then not be going to do those properly . And this she was known as the green goddess. And diana joins a moment diana moran joins me in a moment for talking pints. Well, shed been on the catwalk and shed been on the catwalk and shed been a news reader and a presenter, but suddenly along comes this new phenomenon called breakfast television. And this extra ordinary sight of this woman dressed in green with commuters at Waterloo Station dunng commuters at Waterloo Station during the rush hour. Have a look. Look. Cold. Its dark. Its a bit cold. Its dark. Its a bit miserable. But come on, britain miserable. But come on, britain , wake up. Shape up and stretch up. Lets get britain fit. Up. Lets get britain fit. Take your shoes off the gentleman under your coat. Make yourselves feel comfortable. Put your papers down and your pipes and your umbrellas. And lets all of us get fit. Get fit. I call this the monkey. What i call this the monkey. What two, one, 2 1, 2 1. Two, one, 2 1, 2 1. Fantastic stuff. Inside fantastic stuff. Inside a crowd joins me on talking bytes. The green goddess. Did you, dear . It was revolutionary stuff, though, wasnt it . Breakfast tv was brand new. Yes, yes, yes. And i mean, there werent gyms like we have Health Centres and gyms today. Health centres and gyms today. And a woman wouldnt go inside a gym. They were for blokes. They gym. They were for blokes. They were sort of smelly blokes after they played well , after theyd they played well, after theyd done the rugby and the football and they left all their gear down there and it was for boxing and all that business. So lives changed. No, life has changed hugely. And you were saying during the clip you still do these exercises every day . I do. The one particular one, the monkey. As i get out of bed in yes, thats the in the morning. Yes, thats the one i do. Well, my bodies one that i do. Well, my bodies warm and stretch on up and warm and i stretch on up and breathe deeply and that starts me off each day. The point you were the 80s and were making back in the 80s and in you making during in fact, you were making during lockdown that you dont need lockdown is that you dont need to do and hours of weights to do hours and hours of weights or physically. About basic this is about basic stretching moving and stretching and moving and keeping supple. Thats thats really the message. Three ss, as far as im concerned. Stamina. Thats a little bit of aerobic work. That means going up and down steps. Quite honestly , and breathing quite honestly, and breathing deeply. So thats stamina then strength , just by moving a few strength, just by moving a few things, doing the gardening and housework and then suppleness to be able to continue to bend and to stretch three ss. And if you can do that, the suppleness in particular, i guess that makes getting older. Well im trying to be delicate about it , but well im trying to be delicate about it, but yes, but talking generally about people getting into older years and they tend to not be very supple and not very mobile. And i mean, do you very mobile. And i mean, do you think doing one of these routines and what would it be every day, 15 minutes . Oh its only a few minutes, for goodness sake. And then you make activity. Dont lets call it exercise for a minute. You make activity part of your everyday life. People retire and they have bungalows. Retire and they have bungalows. Hello. They havent got stairs to go up and down. I live in a townhouse. Im up and down the blooming three. Im sure you are. Im sure you are. Im sure you are. Im sure you did. Im sure you did. You see . Its good. Its good for the heart. Yeah. And so gardening, taking the dog for a walk, talking to people, being mentally alive as well as it just makes a difference physically. Yeah, it does. Now, this you were there on the bbc, but of course it also launched its own Breakfast Show with us afterwards. No, i know it was afterwards. No, i know it was afterwards. So of course you crossed over in many ways with Michael Parkinson. Michael parkinson. Oh, many, many times, yes. Oh, many, many times, yes. And also i saw an almond earlier on, so and diamond and i have crossed as well. Let me just tell you one story. Parkinson if you recall, had emu rod hull and emu on the programme and that blooming animal or bird or whatever it was actually took him to pieces, pulled him off his chair. The whole bloomin lot just just after that emu came in and to do keep fit with me. Well i mean it was heading for a disaster, wasnt it . And he looked at me and he picked up my bum and one thing and another. And i thought, oh, here we go. And then he nuzzled his beak against me. And he said, well, he sort of indicated nice lady. And i got away totally poor old cockpit and green. God has got away with it. But whatever we do and i know you believe in diet as well, being incredibly important and you know youre dismay, not diet diet. Diet. No, no, no, no. No, no, no, no. But youre dismayed at, you know, the takeaway culture and all of these things. Am. All of these things. And|. All of these things. And you know, it seems to me that a large chunk of the country take exercise and health more seriously than their parents and grandparents. But equally a large chunk of the country just dont seem to care at all. And children are obese from their mid teens onwards. And so its a very mixed bag. But whatever you do, diana, whatever you do with diet and exercise , there is this little exercise, there is this little thing we cant alter called genetics. Theres certainly is has deau theres certainly is has dealt you a couple of quite cruel blows in your life. Cruel blows in your life. If you your mother died very early, very young. When i was a child. When i was a child. When i was a child. Youre a child. You yourself have had Breast Cancer at 47 and battle through and of course and diamond iron diamond has recovered very recently. I believe that. I believe that. And i have had exactly the same. Although shes 40 years after. Yeah. Double mistake after me. Yeah. A double mistake. To me, thats both sides and some immediate reconstruct to try and help us on our way again. Youve also fit. Being fit. Youve also fit. Being fit helps you get over any of these awful things that happen. It makes a difference. Oh you bet. I remember the surgeon saying to me before all this happened at the Royal Marsden hospital and he said, diana, you are very fit. This will help you fit. This will help you enormously to get over the problem. And it did. And youve campaigned and youve spoken about this issue very publicly and very often in secret at the time. Why was that . I was ashamed of it. 43 years ago. People didnt talk about cancer and if you heard about cancer, it was behind the hands. People were going to die. Yeah. How life has going to die. Yeah. How life has changed, how the attitude to cancer and the treatments and the recovery have changed. And the other health issue that youve campaigned on, and its a predominantly female. Its a predominantly female. Yes. Issue is osteoporosis. Yes. Issue is osteoporosis. Sit up tall, bone thinning. Sit up tall, bone thinning. Sit up tall, bone thinning. Yes. I mean, what can women effectively do to ward that off . Quite definitely. Thats to quite definitely. Thats to do with diet, to begin with, you must have sufficient calcium. So thats your milk and all those Dairy Products projects produce. And then youve also got to have enough vitamin d, now the vitamin d comes from the sunshine. Who gets enough vitamin d regularly here . So i take every day and i would advise most women once theyve hit the menopause , quite hit the menopause, quite honestly, because its all hormonal to take a calcium plus vitamin d tablet every day. And vitamin d tablet every day. And thats going to help you on your way. There were many that thought dunng there were many that thought during the covid pandemic. It was a very helpful thing to do as well. Yes. Now, youre clearly absolutely still buzzing with and spark and do with energy and spark and do quite a lot. And oh, i can tell. And youve rediscovered your lost love of art. And these are these are recent, recent creations. And this is all really during the pandemic that you started just about three weeks ago, three weeks ago. And tell us what know what we can see shows. See on it shows. Well, one is nash short well, that one is nash short for panache and he belongs to my next door neighbour. And hes a trainee for blind dogs , you trainee for blind dogs, you know, dogs for the blind. Isnt know, dogs for the blind. Isnt that lovely . Yeah. Yeah. Wonderful. Well, ive got a lab similar colour and. And i love this one. I love this one. This is terrific. Love this one. I love this one. This is terrific. Now, tell us. This is terrific. Now, tell us. Tell us the story. Im very fortunate that i work on the cruise ships quite a lot. Yes. Do talking and all the rest of it. I dont do the exercises. I do after dinner speaking and the likes of and on this particular cruise, we went to down the falklands. But you cant always get on ashore at the falklands at the time and the falklands at the time and the captain said, i know theres a lot of you who really do want to go. He said, ill allow you to go. He said, ill allow you to get off now. Well, we got into a smaller boat. He said, but if you hear , ooh, youve got but if you hear, ooh, youve got to be on the boat, come back immediately. And thats what immediately. And thats what happened. And i took a photograph of these gorgeous penguins. Penguins are my penguins. Penguins are my favourite thing in well, its a lovely i mean, ive not been to the falklands and id like to 90, the falklands and id like to go, actually, because theres a lot of things id like to see there. But that looks quite incredible. So looking back on it all, looking at television, one of those pioneers in at the very beginning, how does television today compare to then to many adverts . Right. All yeah. And also, lets be honest, im now 84. Theres not an awful lot of the programmes that actually are suhed programmes that actually are suited for us all the, i dont know, the daily things that go on aimed at the kids a bit more. Well, thats what theyre after. Yes. But are they. Because theyre on their phone. I know its not working. Its not working. Its us who want us. The not working. Its us who want us. The bbc are after Youth Culture and its not working. It isnt . It isnt . It isnt . No. I know. No. I know. For me, the antiques road trip anyway. Yeah. Or a good debate on gb news. Oh. Oh we watch you talking points. Welcome. Thank you for welcome. Thank you for joining. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Right, thats it. Im done. Im going to im back with you on monday. Ill be in new york on monday. Ill be in new york on monday. Ill be in new york on monday. Lets have a look at what the weekend weather is going to be. The temperatures rising , boxt the temperatures rising, boxt solar proud sponsors of weather on. Gb news. On. Gb news. Hi there. Its Aidan Mcgivern here from the met office with the gb news forecast. Well nofice the gb news forecast. Well notice the increased humidity dunng notice the increased humidity during the nights. Next few nights , windy and cloudy nights, windy and cloudy conditions start to appear as well. And an increased risk of showers and thunderstorms as the weekend approaches. High pressure moving away, lower pressure moving away, lower pressure approaching isobars tightening. The wind picks up overnight. That window is bringing higher humidities across the uk , an increase in across the uk, an increase in the cloud as well. Some showers the cloud as well. Some showers affecting eastern parts of britain, heavier downpours britain, but heavier downpours arriving by the end of the night across northern ireland, wales arriving by the end of the night acro central1ern ireland, wales arriving by the end of the night acro central and ireland, wales arriving by the end of the night acro central and southern ilales into central and southern england. Night england. And its a muggy night for sleeping 1718 celsius in the south, 13 to 15 celsius in the north. Those winds of concern, especially across parts of northwest wales as we go through friday, 50 mile per hour wind gust, perhaps more in some of the gusty spots could impact travel, tourism. And so on and heavy showers, even some thunderstorms across parts of central and southern england dunng central and southern england during friday morning. Frequent lightning, heavy rainfall as well. They diminish into the afternoon. Its a warm and humid afternoon. Its a warm and humid day, but a lot of cloud and that breeze will limit temperatures. Then night. So thats then on friday night. So thats when a lot of action takes place. Heavy rain sweeping through some very lively through risk of some very lively thunderstorms in the east of england the persistent rain england and the persistent rain on saturday continues into the north scotland. Northern north of scotland. Northern ireland and some well, heavy rain at times throughout the weekend across northern parts of the uk. Further south, its sunny spells and showers and still quite warm. Still staying quite warm. The temperatures rising , boxt the temperatures rising, boxt solar proud sponsors of weather on gb news news weather. Good evening, winners. Good evening, winners. Its me, Patrick Christies identifying as Jacob Rees Mogg on state of the nation tonight. What a show this is, by the way. Five protesters were arrested at that Stradey Park Hotel in clan athol in wales this week. Ive been all over this week. Ive been all over this show of public force in the face of the Migrant Hotel expansion, i am not stopping expansion, and i am not stopping now. Protests began when the plans to close hotel and plans to close the hotel and house up to 241 Asylum Seekers were announced in june. Isnt it were announced in june. Isnt it such a shame that people are now deliberately getting criminal records to stand up for their own community . How on earth has it come to this . People losing their jobs . I it come to this . People losing theirjobs . I will be going to theirjobs . I will be going to that community with some exclusive footage very shortly. Now some very sad news. So Michael Parkinson, of course, died at the age of 88, but it is an opportunity to celebrate his life. A British Television icon,