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Tonight, we have broadcaster and psychotherapist lucy beresford, director of the Common Sense Society , emma webb, and former society, emma webb, and former labour mp Simon Danczuk and tonight ill be asking the punst tonight ill be asking the pundits what first attracted tony blair to the Oil Rich State of saudi arabia. Do we need a nationwide dna database for crime, or is it overstepping the line . And should pride events be funded by the taxpayer . After the revelation that half £1 million was spent on pride events this year, plus your emails , send them in to gb views emails, send them in to gb views at gbnews. Com. This show has a golden rule. We dont do boring. Not on my watch. I just wont have it. Lets get to work and we start with my big opinion. It we start with my big opinion. It was the glorious 12th yesterday. The start of the british grouse shooting season in grouse moors rang with the crack of shotguns as landed gentry leaned out of their butts to shoot these fast , nimble birds, restaurants rushed to serve the first delicious grouse of the season. A fine tradition, but now the metropolitan elite have hunting and shooting in their crosshairs. Legislation is being passed. The Wildlife Management bill that could criminalise grouse shooting cosseted by metropolitan elites castigate shooting as inhumane and immoral and green politicians say that grouse shooting is bad for the environment. This is absolute balderdash. Grouse moors are carefully managed to provide habitat for the grouse, and its also habitat for all kinds of rare flora and fauna such as curlew merlin, large heath butter , fly orchid and butter, fly orchid and butterflies and orchids. More than two thirds of englands grouse moors are designated as sites of special scientific interest burning. The heather to stimulate fresh growth for growth to eat, which is criticised as endangering wildlife and releasing carbon, actually prevents wildfires and promotes biodiversity. If it promotes biodiversity. If it wasnt for grouse shooting, then the grouse moors these oases of biodiversity wouldnt exist. The biodiversity wouldnt exist. The chattering classes in islington dont realise this, but the countryside is a business. Land has to provide money and employment. If has to provide money and employment. If this moorland wasnt used for grouse shooting, it would be used for the next most lucrative use which in most cases is blanket coniferous forestry. This industrial forestry. This industrial forestry is not indigenous and creates a monoculture where nothing thrives, but pine trees and midges. Blanket forestry and midges. Blanket forestry doesnt support the ecological diversity found in a grouse moor. It acidifies the soil and water courses upsetting the delicate balance of nature for miles around. Its the rural equivalent of an oil spill and grouse moors provide essential employment for some of the most depnved employment for some of the most deprived communities in britain. Remote rural areas and former mining towns. Remote rural areas and former mining towns. My father was a mining towns. My father was a gunsmith on the scottish grouse moors at leadhills, fixing the guns of the toffs, shooting the grouse , and my first job, aged grouse, and my first job, aged 14, was as a grouse. Peter its not as violent as it sounds. Gross beaters arent paid to rough the grouse a bit before rough up the grouse a bit before theyre shot. No, i was one of theyre shot. No, i was one of the men who walk in a line across moor waving a flag. Across the moor waving a flag. And theres 14. After and theres me, age 14. After id my first grouse, id shot my first grouse, i hadnt id shot my first grouse, i hadnt for the way. Hadnt paid for it, by the way. It was a freebie grouse beating. Got and these men out got me and these other men out of us a hard of the house gave us a hard days work and a bit of extra cash to top up our gyros as well as for beaters and as Seasonal Work for beaters and loaders. Skilled local loaders. Skilled local local workers are employed all year round and local businesses such as and restaurants also as hotels and restaurants also benefit huge amounts of public money have been pumped into these deprived communities to offset the decline of farming and the end of coal mining. But grouse does a far grouse shooting does a far better of generate jobs and better job of generate jobs and wealth in these isolated areas than government handouts ever could do. But leftists see grouse shooting is inhumane. Grouse shooting is inhumane. Its unnecessary suffering. It does, after all, revolve around blasting animals out of the sky. But compared to factory farmed animals such as chickens, which lead a short , unpleasant life in lead a short, unpleasant life in a concrete shed crammed up against other chickens pumped full of antibiotics before theyre strapped by the feet to a Conveyor Belt of a machine that electrocutes them and boils them and plucks them. Grouse lead an enviably pleasant and natural life grouse live as nature intended. On the moors nature intended. On the moors eating wild heather free to roam and nest wherever they please. Some are then quickly killed and eaten. Humans have been killing animals to eat since the dawn of time, and as a shooter myself, theres nothing more respectful than killing your own food. Instead of outsourcing it to a disinterested grunt in an abattoir. Unless politicians are going to force us all to become vegan and live in bio sustainable tepees, they have no right to stop people shooting grouse. Grouse. At all. Right im here. Im here. I always forget about that bit. Oh my god. Its my. Its my daily exercise. Anyway, anyway , what exercise. Anyway, anyway, what do you think . Do you agree . Do you disagree with me . Email gbviews gbnews. Com and ill get to your emails after the break. Reacting to my big opinion tonight and my Brilliant Panel of broadcaster and psychotherapy host lucy beresford, director for the Common Sense Society. Emma webb , and former labour mp emma webb, and former labour mp Simon Danczuk. Am i pronouncing that right . Thats fine. Thats fine. Is that. Yeah, i can do that. Ive been called worse. Ive been called worse. And i mean, would you make of it . Are any of you hunters and shooters yourselves . Shooters yourselves . No, but im with you on it. I dont think we should be banning shooting in grouse at all. And i think its the thin end of a wedge. And im worried that people campaigning people who are campaigning on these ultimately to these issues ultimately want to get become vegetarian or get us to become vegetarian or vegan. Thats the end point. Vegan. And thats the end point. And so its the thin end of a wedge. What i would wedge. Thats what i would argue. Wedge. Thats what i would arg yeah. Mean, its yeah. I mean, its controlling peoples lives and its also its also shutting down the economy thats down part of the economy thats self sustain waning and, you know, part of the free market, which and leaving people dependent on government handouts. I feel very conflicted because i am a member of the rspb and i dont agree with murdering birds , but im also murdering birds, but im also a country girl. I grew up in the country girl. I grew up in the country and this is, as you say, a thriving economy that actually for a lot of the betas , its not for a lot of the betas, its not just a community. Its the way in which they earn their livelihoods for whatever is, in which they earn their li� to ihoods for whatever is, in which they earn their li� toih months whatever is, in which they earn their li� to ih months of1atever is, in which they earn their li� to ih months of the ler is, in which they earn their li� to ih months of the year. Is, in which they earn their li� to ih months of the year. And 4 to 5 months of the year. And if that away, not only if you took that away, not only would really decimate those would you really decimate those communities both economically, but also mentally, spiritually , but also mentally, spiritually, but also mentally, spiritually, but from a conservation point of view, actually the way in which those grouse moors are are processed and dealt with in different seasons, it has actually encouraging the biodiverse city. And you see that a lot in other continents in africa in particular, where the regeneration is allowed to happen naturally. This is the regeneration that is man made, but theyre doing it with with great, you know, hundreds of years of knowledge about how to actually improve the land under their absolutely. Their care. Yeah, absolutely. The with the same actually happened with fox theres some fox hunting. So theres some evidence that evidence to suggest that actually under the current circumstances, the fox population is less healthy because got rid of because we got rid of traditional fox hunting. So i think the point about biodiversity is really important because youre talking about because if youre talking about outcomes talking, you outcomes and youre talking, you know, care about know, you actually care about animals you actually animals and you actually care about countryside about the countryside and you want it to flourish, you should care and care about biodiversity and seeing human beings as if we are somehow now outside of that, i think is part of the problem. We are part of that ecosystem. Theres wrong or immoral theres nothing wrong or immoral about birds, aside from about shooting birds, aside from the shooting, the fact that i love shooting, ive birds before, ive never shot birds before, but id quite like to go on a grouse if they dont get rid of it. Yeah, think it. Listening yeah, but i think that thats whats really important, that if you, as i do , love animals and , if you really love animals and you the countryside, you really love the countryside, you really love the countryside, you their you should want their populations thrive in of populations to thrive in all of their that biodiversity and real conservation. I think when you go and you speak to people, farmers in the countryside, they have a very , very different have a very, very different opinion on this to, like you were saying, the sort of metropolitan have metropolitan elite who have absolutely no idea how and clarksons farm was a perfect example of this. And i think example of this. And i think that actually if people actually listen to what Small Farmers lives are actually like and paid attention to their understanding of protecting biodiversity , of protecting biodiversity, theyd take a very different approach. Yeah. The custodians of the land, weve actually got some comments from viewers. John says comments from viewers. John says the only grouse, you know, is the only grouse, you know, is the whisky that is racially stereotyping me because of my accent. But it is very true, gam says famous grouse is the best. I see a themed developing here. Its sunday night, settling down for a tipple, tim says. Metropolitan should should get out more and i mean i think thats thats a great point and you know the grouse moors ive always found them absolutely beautiful great for on beautiful great for hiking on whereas blanket coniferous forestry you know , especially forestry you know, especially when its felled it looks like a scene for the somme when all the trees are felled. Great. Trees are felled. Great. But also you were mentioning curlew. So down where i come curlew. So down where i come from in sussex , theres a from in west sussex, theres a huge of curlews and huge shortage of curlews and that what we really that actually what we really need is to encourage need to do is to encourage areas where thrive and where they can thrive and improve their natural habitat. Improve their natural habitat. So yeah, there would be an amazing sense in which you could migrate from grouse moors migrate them from grouse moors to of country. To other parts of the country. But if theyre not it on but if theyre not doing it on the moors , who is the grouse moors, who else is going saving curlew . Going to be saving the curlew . I think i think yeah, and i think i think the migrate themselves because they, you the, the go out in the you know, the, the go out in the mudflats and eat the eat the stuff there well. But stuff there as well. But yeah i mean ive noticed that hunters and there are you know and shooters there are you know they look after the land so the animals they want to shoot can survive on there. Yeah. The problem is there is this very thin layer of corporate hospitality where youve got people only shoot once every people who only shoot once every four years because theyve been ianed four years because theyve been invited some investment invited by some investment banken invited by some investment banker. And i speak a former banker. And i speak as a former investment i know investment banker, so i know whereof actually whereof i speak that actually these people, they do it because they think its the thing to do and they they buy the kit and they they buy all the kit and they they buy all the kit and buy the gun and then and they buy the gun and then they only shoot once. And i think is to think that think the myth is to think that everybody in everybody whos involved in shooting that kind of shooting is that kind of individual. And thats just not the its the same with but its the same with anything youve but its the same with any theg youve but its the same with any the corporate youve but its the same with any the corporate boxesyouve but its the same with any the corporate boxes where got the corporate boxes where you probably you know, theyre probably full of no interest of people whove got no interest in football. Whats wrong with it . Its traditional. Yeah, yeah. Like an english pastime. So like its an english pastime. So whats and why are we as a country more prone to getting rid of like that . Rid of stuff like that . You to france or when you go to france or spain, they keep these traditions donkeys they traditions for donkeys so they wouldnt it. They wouldnt have any of it. They wouldnt have any of it. They wouldnt any it. Wouldnt have any of it. They wotbutt any it. Wouldnt have any of it. They wotbut thats any it. Wouldnt have any of it. They wotbut thats becauset. Wouldnt have any of it. They wotbut thats because i think but thats because i think theres such disconnect theres such a disconnect now between town and the between in the town and the country youve got country that actually youve got a massive divide in this country where we have youve got children who grow up who dont know comes and know where milk comes from, and you fantastic like you have fantastic farms like the farm combined with a the city farm combined with a kind arrogance. The city farm combined with a kin� i arrogance. The city farm combined with a kin� i mean,gance. The city farm combined with a kin� i mean, were seeing were i mean, were seeing were seeing people i you seeing people i mean, you mentioned know, the mentioned the, you know, the murdering of birds. I mean, murdering of the birds. I mean, i know. Know sort i dont know. I know youre sort of but i think of embellishing it, but i think the birds die and they die a death. Well, are you a vegetarian yourself . No, no, no, im not. Actually. Youre a vegetarian. So youre not a vegetarian. So youre outsource the youre happy to outsource the murder in a slaughterhouse . I theres technical i think theres a technical term but pescatarian, term for it, but pescatarian, somebody fishes. Somebody who fishes. Shall i describe it . But. Shall i describe it . But. As a member. Yeah. So i but as a member. Yeah. So i remember rspb and it just remember the rspb and it just goes against, know, got goes against, you know, ive got my little bird feeder on the window the kind of thing. So window and the kind of thing. So i know, deeper i feel, you know, deeper affinity with but affinity with birds, but not with are happy be murdered. Theres a, just there. Theres a, theres nice comment here. Theres a nice comment here. Graham leo, you were an graham jeez. Leo, you were an ugly fortunately an honest viewer. Yeah. Yeah. Fortunately, you grew into a handsome, handsome man. Thank goodness you got out of scotland in i mean, hes got a in time. I mean, hes got a point. 14, i did point. When i was 14, i did somehow to look like somehow manage to look like Nicholas Lyndhurst with progeria. But but i mean, i think there this disconnect think there is this disconnect between between urban centres and you know, and like you say, you know, people know where milk and like you say, you know, peop comes know where milk and like you say, you know, peop comes from n where milk and like you say, you know, peop comes from and,3re milk and like you say, you know, peop comes from and, you nilk and like you say, you know, peop comes from and, you know, milk comes from and, you know, so people dont understand the chunks of flesh that they buy in the supermarket that come from an but its the arrogance to but its the arrogance to its cities its the people in the cities and in urban areas , particularly and in urban areas, particularly the liberal metropolitan elite. Let featuring people in the countryside the people in let featuring people in the cou countryside the people in let featuring people in the cou countryside dontpeople in let featuring people in the cou countryside dont love. E in the countryside dont love animals and love animals and dont love the environment actually dont environment and actually dont know when they have no know best when they have no experience whatsoever. So experience of it whatsoever. So they have no idea what theyre talking theyre talking about, but theyre too arrogant listen. Arrogant to actually listen. Having in yeah, well, having lived in the countryside, i tell you the countryside, i can tell you that people animals that some people love animals a little much. Anyway, little bit too much. Anyway, coming next in the big story, coming up next in the big story, 509 migrants the channel 509 migrants crossed the channel and the same day six poor souls died trying to cross it. And the same day six poor souls died trying to cross it. And the died trying to cross it. And the bibby riddled with bibby stockholm is riddled with poisoned useless are poisoned water. How useless are the government . Will this ever end . Stay tuned. See you in a dont see that whatsoever anymore. Youre listening to gb news radio. Radio. In tonights big story, 509 migrants crossed the channel the same day that six people tragically died trying to make the same journey. And earlier in the same journey. And earlier in the week, the bibby stockholm migrant barge was found to be full of diseases. It seems like the whole is screwed. Im the whole system is screwed. Im joined by immigration lawyer ivan sampson to discuss our broken migration system. Hi ivan. Thanks for joining broken migration system. Hi ivan. Thanks forjoining us broken migration system. Hi ivan. Thanks for joining us this evening. Evening. Good evening. Have the tories lost control and how do you think we could fix the system . I think look , people say i think look, people say theres a huge migration asylum problem, but if you look over the last 20 years, weve had a fluctuation on the number of people claiming asylum in 2001, when i was a young lawyer , we when i was a young lawyer, we had 85,000 people in one year claiming asylum , significantly claiming asylum, significantly less than we have now. And theres a correlation between conflicts around the world and the number of people seeking asylum. So things will change. Asylum. So things will change. Ten years from now, we might have a totally different set of figures. With regard to your second part of the question is how do fix the system . I how do we fix the system . I wonder if the home office wants to fix it. I wonder if because every policy that theyve put forward has been in breach of either the Refugee Convention or the European Convention on human rights, its not Rocket Science policies must comply with the law. Everything the government proposed does not comply with the law and i wonder if the government up to the election theyve got this one single policy is we can fix the asylum system if they fix it before the election, what do they do then . Election, what do they do then . I mean, what else are they to going do to try and win the election . On what other policies . So i wonder how much effort the government are putting in. Look the low lying fruit is five countries where the grant rate is in the 90. Why isnt the government releasing the blockage in the system by by quickly granting asylum to those us nationals from those five countries . But, ivan, i think its because ivan, its because we know that the system is being gamed. Its being its being fixed. People are fiddling the system. Theyre being coached by by immigration lawyers, by ngos, by immigration lawyers, by ngos, by charities , and how to how to by charities, and how to how to claim asylum. So youre told to say youre a christian, for example. So you cant be sent back because youll be persecuted. And i believe thats how the how the liverpool maternity bomber managed to stay in the uk. Theyre told to say that theyre gay or theyll be tortured if the if they get sent back. Tortured if the if they get sent back. So i tortured if the if they get sent back. So i mean weve tortured if the if they get sent back. So i mean weve weve seen back. So i mean weve weve seen the revelations over the past few weeks of how the asylum system can can be can be fiddled and it seems unfair to blame the government for that system. Maybe its that system that needs to be changed. And, you know, the fact that weve got a High Pass Rate for the people who do claim really shows who do claim asylum really shows that the system is wrong rather than those are all deserving cases as well. I disagree with you because the government, when it refuses asylum application , as is the asylum application, as is the british courts, which allowed them afterwards. So its actually judges who look at this evidence and judges who then allow the appeals. So and i think its around 35 or 40 success rate on that. When success rate on that. When asylum application refused by the home office. So thats simply not true. So look, i mean simply not true. So look, i mean , youre seeing the courts , the , youre seeing the courts, the courts and the judges are making these decisions. Theyre making these decisions based on the law. And the law was set up with the best intention and with different circumstances. Now that people have worked out how to fiddle that system theyre coming that system and theyre coming across the channel in these boats and we you know, we can see from looking at them that we can see footage of them ripping up their passports so they can they claim to be whatever they can claim to be whatever age from whatever country age and from whatever country they can see that they want. We can see that theyre theyre primarily economic, economic migrants. Economic, economic migrants. Well, look , if we know that well, look, if we know that one of the problem is, is people pretending to be from other country , his, then weve got to country, his, then weve got to have processes and policies to weed them out. Who else is going to do it . You let a government to do it . You let a government to come up with policies to do that. Now, the government do that. The government has been trying to push through anything it can do to try and either dissuade people from from making the crossing. So setting up the the crossing. So setting up the bibby stockholm barge, so at least theyre not being put in a four star hotel that looks amazing on the tiktok adverts that the people traffickers use to sell their expensive cross channel journeys. And cross channel journeys. And theyre trying to push through theyre trying to push through the rwanda plan , but theyre the rwanda plan, but theyre stymied at every point by by lawyers , by by European Courts , lawyers, by by European Courts, by by uk courts as well. I mean, it just feels that the government is hamstrung. Its government is hamstrung. Its stuck between the law and a hard place where signed up to International Treaties is that is our International Treaty obligations. We cannot flout the law as a as a sophisticated society. We as a sophisticated society. We a society which upholds a law. So if you dont like the law, change the law , but dont blame change the law, but dont blame lawyers and judges for upholding the law , that thats simply not the law, that thats simply not right. No look, its a global problem, needs a global solution. And the un needs to get involved. We need an addendum to the Refugee Convention to say what happens to Asylum Seekers once they claim asylum . Who takes them . Take turkey has 3 million Asylum Seekers. Jordan million Asylum Seekers. Jordan has 1. 5 million. Pakistan over a million. We are 17th on the on the league of European Countries on the number of Asylum Seekers we take. So we actually dont take enough. We because we i mean thats thats not thats not entirely fair because i mean, people should claim asylum in the first safe place that they can. And you know, i think somebody coming from from far afield from the middle east, the values the culture that they bnng values the culture that they bring with them might not might not mesh perfectly with with a western liberal democracy , the western liberal democracy, the attitudes to women, to homosexuals. And weve seen weve seen in the past the issues. This is this has caused issues. This is this has caused and with people people with ideologies violent mediaeval ideologies violent mediaeval ideologies that want to cause harm. For example , the liverpool harm. For example, the liverpool Maternity Hospital bomber that i mentioned earlier, he was claiming asylum in the uk. Mentioned earlier, he was claiming asylum in the uk. So claiming asylum in the uk. So i mean, although turkey does take a lot more Asylum Seekers than the than the uk, im sure we take a lot more. If they were from france, from spain, from from france, from spain, from from places that are nearby and culturally similar to well, look , the Refugee Convention, first of all, you dont have to seek asylum in the first country that you go to. Thats the law. So if you want to comply with the law, then, you know , you mustnt then, you know, you mustnt raise these issues. If you want to flout the law and say , well, to flout the law and say, well, you know what, were going to break Refugee Convention, you know what, were going to breaiwereefugee convention, you know what, were going to breaiwereefuggoing1vention, by then were not going to abide by what and were going to what it says and were going to make them back from make them send them back from where thats where they came from. Thats fine. Do that. And while fine. You can do that. And while we were eu, we had we were in the eu, we had a treaty which allowed us to do that. The dublin convention. Since we came out of the eu, we can no longer do that. If you can no longer do that. So if you want to just push back boats, which is what australia did under whats called operation sapphire , which is what the sapphire, which is what the governments blueprint is on, is theyre copying the australians , which worked very well. Effective. Its very effective. Its very effective. Yeah, yeah, yeah. We can push the back, the french push the boats back, the french push them towards us, we push them back towards us, we push them back towards us, we push them back. Where does it them back. And where does it end . Need to have treaties end . You need to have treaties with other countries and this is an International Problem which needs an international solution. The eu are coming up with a new asylum plan. We should be part of that. Of that. Absolutely. No, i couldnt agree more. And ivan, thank you so much joining us this is so much forjoining us this is ivan sampson, immigration lawyer here. 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Again, some heavy at again, some of these heavy at times too , and temperatures times too, and temperatures generally teens to low generally the high teens to low 20s a muggy feel where we 20s quite a muggy feel where we do see any sunshine across central and western parts of England Wales later on england and wales later on tuesday, a much calmer picture, High Pressure starting to build in as that low pressure moves out of the way. Still fairly unsettled. So a day of sunny unsettled. So a day of sunny spells and scattered showers. Some of the showers on the heavy side. And then it settles down wednesday into thursday. Plenty of sunny spells and temperatures starting to rise. Starting to rise. That warm feeling inside from boxt boilers. Proud sponsors of weather on. Gb news. Weather on. Gb news. Welcome back to mark dolan tonight. With me, leo kearse. Coming up next with the pundits. I wonder what attracted tony blair to the Oil Rich State of saudi arabia. Turns out the saudi arabia. Turns out the Blair Institute kept taking donations from the autocratic regime, even after the murder of Jamal Khashoggi and do we need a nationwide dna database for crime . Plus should pride events be funded by the taxpayer . Stay be funded by the taxpayer . Stay tuned for that youre listening to gb news radio. Radio. Back with me now and joining me throughout the show are broadcaster and psychotherapist lucy beresford, the director for the Common Sense Society. Emma webb, and former labour mp Simon Danczuk. Anyway great to have you back and tony, tony blairs institute continued to advise and receive money from the government of saudi arabia even after the assassination of journalist Jamal Khashoggi in turkey. And that was widely assumed to be okayed by mohammed bin salman, the crown prince of saudi arabia. Blairs institute has been working with the Crown Prince Mohammed Bin Salman since 2017 on a vision to help boost the saudi state. When the prince approved the murder of khashoggi in 2018, blair considered cutting ties with the country and yet looked in his bank account and decided to remain engagedin account and decided to remain engaged in saudi arabia. I engaged in saudi arabia. I wonder why tony blair decided to keep in touch with the billionaire , a trillionaire oil billionaire, a trillionaire Oil Rich State of saudi arabia. I mean, what do you make of this . Do you do you think tony blair. Tony blair doing something dodgyin tony blair doing something dodgy in the middle east . Never. Tony blair doing something dofairnessie middle east . Never. Tony blair doing something dofairness ,e middle east . Never. Tony blair doing something dofairness , itsddle east . Never. Tony blair doing something dofairness , its not� east . Never. Tony blair doing something dofairness , its not the ;t . Never. Tony blair doing something dofairness , its not the worstver. In fairness, its not the worst thing hes done in the middle east. But but yeah, mean , the but but yeah, i mean, the tony like the tony Blair Institute, like the Clinton Institute , i mean, they Clinton Institute, i mean, they take these vast sums and generate huge amounts of wealth. I mean, the sums were talking about, some of the salaries at the Blair Institute are half £1 million. But the trouble is, hes not the only one. America and europe did 140 billion worth of trade with saudi arabia in 2022. And it was things like weapons. It was things like oil. It was things like weapons. It was things like oil. Weve got was things like oil. Weve got the pga golf tour is merging with the saudi arabia liv golf tournament. Weve got very well known household names like Cristiano Ronaldo who are now playing there. It isnt just tony blair whos noticed it, that that is really where the centre of gravity is turning in terms of middle eastern influence. And to be fair, yes, the murder of Jamal Khashoggi was absolutely appalling and should never , should never have should never, should never have been allowed to happen at the same time as mbs as hes known , same time as mbs as hes known, is trying to shape or change the sort of social structure of his country and make it more liberal. And i think he should be encouraged. We should be kind be encouraged. We should be kind of going in these countries. As a former labour mp, do you think its better be sort of think its better to be sort of involved the nasty people think its better to be sort of invotryd the nasty people think its better to be sort of invotry and the nasty people think its better to be sort of invotry and try1e nasty people think its better to be sort of invotry and try andasty people think its better to be sort of invotry and try and steereople think its better to be sort of invotry and try and steer them around . I agree with lucy. I think its better to be inside the tent out rather than outside the tent, peeing in. And so i think blair would argue that it can have more influence by staying in contact with this particular regime. Its the murder is regime. Its the murder is absolutely awful. But but in absolutely awful. But but in terms of the money raised as well, a lot is then used by the institute, the tony Blair Institute , to do good work in institute, to do good work in africa. So its not a its not all going into tony blairs pockets stretch of the pockets by any stretch of the imagination. The work imagination. A lot of the work they do in in in rwanda, in sierra leone, all good work by the tony Blair Institute. And is it good work or is it because im always worried concerned when charities are doing work africa, theres doing work in africa, theres some nefarious intent. Some sort of nefarious intent. I mean, i dont know. I just dont trust i dont trust a man whos trying to do something worry. Im worried about them taking tony advice. I think tony blairs advice. I think i mean, the purpose of the Tony Blair Foundation and tony blair, obviously, unlike other Prime Ministers who just go on the speaking circuit, they settle down and they write a book and they a quiet life. He saw they live a quiet life. He saw it sort of track opaline it as the sort of track opaline for him to sort of spring himself off into, you know, it was a blair ites gone global. Yeah. And thats basically what this organisation does. And so this organisation does. And so of course it has interests in countries all around the world, but thats not a bad thing if you and if you agree with im not saying it was perfect , but not saying it was perfect, but but he was one of the better Prime Ministers that weve had. Come on. I mean several years. Weve a devolution, weve an absolutely uncontrolled immigration. I mean, absolutely uncontrolled immigration. I mean, tony absolutely uncontrolled immigration. I mean, tony blair wasnt any means a perfect wasnt by any means a perfect Prime Minister. We have seen economic growth, but our country is more than an economy. But who is . But you still have to engage these have to engage with these countries, particularly countries, and particularly where sits where saudi arabia sits geopolitically. And the way in which its trying to reshape itself. And i still maintain that better for to actually that its better for to actually be part of that journey, for that nation doing the doing, doing the thing that we cant say. Agree that its important say. I agree that its important to continue to be involved to be to continue to be involved with these countries in the sense of maintaining a relationship with them diplomatically. But theyre not an arm of the state. This is an organisation. Yeah. And i think its quite interesting how sort of two faced people are when it comes to progressive issues at home versus what theyre willing to compromise when they go to less progressive states in the middle east, where well say, oh, how progressive they are, they allow women to drive. Yeah, great. Yeah yeah. Anyway, you might have heard the story of Andrew Malkinson, the story of Andrew Malkinson, the man who spent 17 years in prison after being wrongfully convicted for rape. Was only convicted for rape. It was only when dna evidence came to when new dna evidence came to light malkinson was found light that malkinson was found innocent. Raised innocent. This is now raised obvious questions about the role that dna plays in solving crimes. There are tight laws and restrictions around storing and collecting dna, but should we be moving towards a nationwide dna database to tackle crime, or would that be an ethical minefield . I mean, what do you minefield . I mean, what do you make of that . Because im concerned about the sort of Civil Liberties aspect of our dna being forcibly taken from us. Us. Theres real issues about Greater Manchester police in relation Andrew Malkinson relation to Andrew Malkinson isnt there, which still have to be answered for sure terms of be answered for sure in terms of dna, the European Court of dna, its the European Court of human rights that has made it more difficult to hold on to dna. Now they say its it it restricts your privacy rights. So thats why we have a problem in that the police cant with cant contain or retain dna on as many people as they currently do. I think as many people as they currently do. I think you as many people as they currently do. I think you could do it more do. I think you could do it more gradually. I think you could collect it almost by stealth , collect it almost by stealth, but you couldnt create a database of 67 million all, you know , in a short timescale. Know, in a short timescale. Thatd be great. I dont really like the idea of collecting dna by stealth scraping. Somebodys just literally shoving something in your mouth. Im just doing this for polling purposes. Yeah, there are plenty purposes. Yeah, there are plenty of companies is that people are volunteering their like people like 23 and me that are obviously creating worldwide databases. They can even have been issues where people have discovered that they, you know , discovered that they, you know, the sperm bank scandals, they discovered that they had hundreds of relatives all around the world that had been taken from one particular sperm bank. So there are companies that are amassing a lot of Genetic Information on. But im actually with the European Court of human rights on this. I think that this is a violation of privacy. So its one thing to collect dna in relation to a particular case in relation to a particular case in order to use it as evidence in order to use it as evidence in a court to convict or to dismiss evidence. Its another thing to almost treat the entire population as if they are potential criminals and keeping a database on everyone. I think thatis a database on everyone. I think that is a completely gross violation of peoples privacy and i wouldnt consent to it. Yeah, absolutely. Yeah, absolutely. I could not agree more. Anyway, the cost of living. Anyway, the cost of living. Yesterday emerged the taxpayers , taxpayers paid half £1 million to sponsor pride events in the uk. I mean, is this good use of taxpayers money . No, no, no, i dont think so. I think it should be charitable and sponsorship that that funds things. That funds these things. Yeah. And theres enough yeah. And theres enough corporate lining up to corporate sponsors lining up to sponsor pride events. Sponsor pride events. Yeah, absolutely. Yeah, absolutely. Coutts bank being one, having really rainbows really big banners of rainbows in their front lobby, but were not sure if theyll be able to afford it next year. This is true. They could ask nigel true. Well, they could ask nigel maybe few quid so maybe if hes got a few quid so they maybe if hes got a few quid so the he could loan him somewhere he could loan him somewhere else by then. The things that they some of the things that they spent this money on. So hounslow council, so council, labour run council, so spent 50 grand on a rainbow junction so that you can cross the road at an lgbt friendly way. Stirling council spent money on glitter tattoos and Wolverhampton Council has spent money on three kilometres of rainbow bunting, so this this blows my mind when people talk about money, when people talk about money, when people talk about austerity and how terrible things are under tory things are under the tory government somehow government, and yet somehow pubuc government, and yet somehow Public Servants have got money to everywhere on glitter to splash everywhere on glitter tattoos. In the grand scheme of tattoos. In the grand scheme of things, £500,000 is not much in terms of the budget in the pubuc terms of the budget in the Public Sector, but its but its our money that could be better spent on families that are homeless and have nowhere to go i yeah. And also, i mean, theres surely an issue with pride has sort of changed its meaning. I mean back, you know, 30 years ago when gay people were oppressed , it was were oppressed, it was a rallying call. It was provided visibility. Now, you know, gay people arent you know, that battle is kind of been been won largely. And now pride is sort of metastasised into celebrating kink. And also sexualising, you know, providing drag queen events for children on the councils. Yeah and also and also some, some gays and lesbians have been excluded from , from have been excluded from, from pride events. I mean in wales , pride events. I mean in wales, lesbians were actually booted off the pride march because trans activists objected to them being there. So, i mean, now that its become this sort of politicised thing thats got away from from just being about lesbian and gay people, do you think its time to for the state to stop funding it . I think it is more about charitable donations, but actually people really feel actually if people really feel that its that strongly about it and its another version , another charity another version, another charity that they want to support, then that they want to support, then that but if its that should be fine. But if its taxpayers money, then thats got to go on areas of the community could be hospitals could or it could be hospitals could or it could be hospitals could or it could be brightening up your maybe what they was thinking was instead of hanging baskets, which twee, maybe instead of hanging baskets, whishould twee, maybe instead of hanging baskets, whishould have twee, maybe instead of hanging baskets, whishould have rainbow maybe instead of hanging baskets, whishould have rainbow. Naybe instead of hanging baskets, whishould have rainbow. No 3e instead of hanging baskets, whishould have rainbow. No zebra we should have rainbow. No zebra crossings or something. Yeah i mean, we talk about what the what the money could be spent on the money could just not be taken out of our pockets. Is that is that possibility . Can is that is that possibility . Can i just keep hold of that money and spend it on some . Now, it does make you think that that know, should that that you know, we should have to withhold our have the ability to withhold our tax they continue spend it tax if they continue to spend it on glitter tattoos on things like glitter tattoos and story hours for and drag queen story hours for children under the age of five, which is one of the things that one of these councils did. Yeah. Its an yeah. And its just an outrageous of public funds outrageous use of public funds and it just shows sort of and that it just shows sort of the mentality that they thought that this was acceptable. Yeah, that this was acceptable. Yeah, its all right. You know, if you as individual want to be part as an individual want to be part of but in in the public of this. But in in the Public Sector, its become a sort of mandatory thing. One of the things that they spent money on were badges for staff were pronoun badges for staff and presumably any person who said, i dont want to wear a pronoun badge would be dismissed and labelled bigot. Oh and labelled as a bigot. Oh yeah, be be hauled in yeah, thered be be hauled up in front hr and yeah, get front of hr and yeah, get a non crime incident recorded non crime hate incident recorded on the record but but yeah. Emmas not going to pay her tax because she doesnt agree with what government spends tax because she doesnt agree witii what government spends tax because she doesnt agree witii cant government spends tax because she doesnt agree witii cant waitjovernment spends tax because she doesnt agree witii cant wait to ernment spends tax because she doesnt agree witii cant wait to see nent spends tax because she doesnt agree witii cant wait to see how spends tax because she doesnt agree witii cant wait to see how that ds on. I cant wait to see how that goes. Up next, my goes. Anyway coming up next, my next is a conservationist next guest is a conservationist who rebuilds lions and tigers. Hopefully shell bring one in. Dont go anywhere. We might get dont go anywhere. We might get to see somebody eaten. See bit of a john terry and sort of turn up and lift the trophy. Youre listening to gb news radio. Radio. My next guest is a conservation artist who works for the Aspinall Foundation , who for the Aspinall Foundation, who specialises in breeding and rewilding endangered species. But dont worry, its nothing like tiger. But dont worry, its nothing like tiger. King Freya Aspinall joins me now. Its great to great to have you in the studio. Nice to see you. Nice to see you. I was really hoping you were going to bring a lion in. Yeah, sadly not. Youre not allowed to bring one on the tube. No, not yet. You ever are you have you ever are you actually carry lion actually allowed to carry a lion around no. Around with you . No. Nor should i. Thats not the point. Weve got keep them as point. Weve got to keep them as wild on. Wild as possible. Come on. Oh, right. Of course. Because youre rewilding animals oh, right. Of course. Because y0|theyawilding animals oh, right. Of course. Because y0|theyawil oh, right. Of course. Because y0|they awilythen released s so they can then be released into hopefully richmond into hopefully not like richmond park. They . Park. Where are they . Africa. Back to africa. Back to africa. To africa . Back to africa . Back to africa . Right. Back to africa . Just right. Back to africa . Just on ght. Back to africa . Just on the. You just drive to africa drop them off or to africa and drop them off or do fly africa . Right. Do you fly to africa . Right. It depends. Every its. Oh, it depends. Every animal do get animal is different. Do they get their well they their own seat . Yeah. Well they have their own crates, but so we have their own crates, but so we have two lions right now in africa and they went on a plane. But going to send our but were going to send back our elephants two jumbo elephants and two jumbo planes. Qatar africa. Qatar airways, back to africa. Do get. Are so how do you get. What are the logistics getting an the logistics of getting an elephant a plane . Elephant on a on a plane . Its difficult. Mean, we its so difficult. I mean, we have amazing team whos have such an amazing team whos doing all of this. But i mean, right now were feeding the elephants in the crate so it gets used to coming in and then elephants in the crate so it getsday d to coming in and then elephants in the crate so it getsday well oming in and then elephants in the crate so it getsday well shutg in and then elephants in the crate so it getsday well shut it. N and then elephants in the crate so it getsday well shut it. Butd then elephants in the crate so it getsday well shut it. But every| one day well shut it. But every animal is different with the gorillas. They just go in. We animal is different with the goriwe. They just go in. We animal is different with the goriwe never just go in. We animal is different with the goriwe never try;t go in. We animal is different with the goriwe never try to |o in. We try. We never try to tranquillise the animal, hopefully. How how did the and how did you how did the hons and how did you how did the lions the elephants up lions and the elephants end up in care . In your care . Oh, okay. So this was something that i born into. Something that i was born into. So lions , their mother so the lions, their mother died of uterus infection. So me and of a uterus infection. So me and my dad have to hand raise them. My dad have to hand raise them. They would have. Theyll be dead if it wasnt. If we didnt do that and soon as that. And then as soon as theyre old enough, were going to try and them back to africa. Right. And think weve got right. And i think weve got pictures on the screen now. These these two these are these are the two lions, oh, lions, two lion cubs. Oh, theyre cute. Not even a theyre so cute. Im not even a cat im cat person. Im im allergic to cats. Well how yeah, animals. How ironic. Yeah, all animals. Im allergic. I mean, for anybody watching, listening is that they listening on radio is that they are the cutest animals in the world. And heres are these gorillas. Gorillas. Those are two gorillas we see from slaughter. They saw their whole family get killed and we saved them. Our team in the congo, we protect a million acres in gabon and congo. Acres in gabon and congo. And were they being slaughtered by poachers . The poachers slaughtered their they were their whole family and they were taking them to as and taking them in to be as pets and we saved and now theyre we saved them. And now theyre living wild. Living free in the wild. So do poachers. They and so do the poachers. They go gorillas to get the go after the gorillas to get the small ones as pets for zoos, small ones as pets and for zoos, as pets. Mean, illegal wildlife i mean, the illegal wildlife trade biggest trade is the third biggest illegal the world. Illegal trade in the world. Bushmeat. I mean, bushmeat for gorillas. I mean, you name it, people eat the gorillas. Gorillas. Emma yes, they do. Yes, they do. Yeah. Yeah. The gorillas. And also to send send baby ones send the send the baby ones around world to be exotic around the world to be exotic pets , some zoos will actually pets, some zoos will actually take animals from the wild. Right. But you know, theres also ashtrays. They use their hands as ashtrays. Theyre full of stools. Yeah and is this of the and is this one of the biggest to endangered biggest threats to endangered species gorillas . Species such as gorillas . I would say the i mean, i would say the biggest is poaching for sure. I mean, every animal is different, but now, think the but right now, i think the biggest animals is biggest threat for animals is that theyre in captivity that theyre stuck in captivity and sent back and theyre not being sent back to yeah. And theyre not being sent back to and yeah. And theyre not being sent back to and howyeah. And theyre not being sent back to and how do h. And theyre not being sent back to and how do you sort of and how do you sort of rehabilitate and re acclimatise animals to living in the wild . Because it must be nice for the animal fed by a bottle animal getting fed by a bottle and, you living a nice and, you know, living a nice life. And then all of sudden life. And then all of a sudden youre thrown into wild youre thrown back into the wild and, yeah, its and, you know, yeah, its a its and, you know, yeah, its a its a long process. As i said, its so as i said, its a different process every different process for every animal. For example, with animal. But for example, with the gorillas , we have an island the gorillas, we have an island in congo , so well get them in the congo, so well get them use food to well feed them every single day and then slowly well reduce their food so they can on own. Yeah, can forage on their own. Yeah, theyre like just on an island to acclimatise and get to to acclimatise and get used to the diet. Then eventually, the diet. And then eventually, once theyve settled in, then well them to wild. Well release them to the wild. But still theyre but they still have theyre still their habitat still in their natural habitat on and are you ever tempted to and are you ever tempted to build coliseum build a little coliseum for those dress some those cubs and dress some squirrels christians . Those cubs and dress some squ no ls christians . Those cubs and dress some squ no. ; christians . No. No. So do you have to do you so but do you have to do you have to give the lions like live food to get them to it . Food to get them used to it . Just eating meat. Food to get them used to it . Justright . Eating meat. Food to get them used to it . Justright . I eating meat. Food to get them used to it . Justright . I know. I meat. Food to get them used to it . Justright . I know. Its� at. Food to get them used to it . Justright . I know. Its like right . I know. Its like really sweet. Feel like really sweet. I feel like a proud mom. But is that is that meat already dead or. Proud mom. But is that is that meat already dead or. Yeah, its meat already dead or. Yeah, its venison. Venison beef. Right . Great. Right . Great. I know better than me. I know better than me. Are you going to have to progress to the point where they are actually, you know, running around bringing something . Around and bringing something . Because guess what because i guess thats what theyre to to theyre theyre going to have to hunt back in the hunt when theyre back in the wild. Yeah, 100. Actually, of well, actually, a lot of people you know, people say that, you know, they wont hunt. Theyre wont be able to hunt. Theyre humanised. Domesticated wont be able to hunt. Theyre hand nised. Domesticated wont be able to hunt. Theyre hand weve domesticated wont be able to hunt. Theyre hand weve proven domesticated wont be able to hunt. Theyre hand weve proven domewrong d. And weve proven them wrong every the only every time. So were the only people world that rewild every time. So were the only prcheetah. World that rewild every time. So were the only p so that instinct never leaves them. In fact, that them. And in fact, we see that sometimes with dont know if sometimes with i dont know if youre aware siegfried youre aware of siegfried and roy, vegas magicians, roy, the las vegas magicians, but were on stage. They but they were on stage. They had a these a stage show with these these white tigers and one of White Siberian tigers and one of the tigers. Theyve done this show hundreds times. When the show hundreds of times. When the tigers just turned tigers one day just turned around at siegfried around and attacked at siegfried or im not which one. Or roy, im not sure which one. A big fan of animal im not a big fan of animal shows. Right. Wouldnt be shows. Right. So i wouldnt be watching shows. Right. So i wouldnt be watchinits good shows. Right. So i wouldnt be watchin its good way to but its not a good way to rebuild them because theres no magicians in the wild. Animal shows should be illegal. That should not be happening crazy. Illegal. That should not be hapand ng crazy. Illegal. That should not be hapand zoos. Crazy. Illegal. That should not be hapand zoos. How crazy. Illegal. That should not be hapand zoos. How do izy. Illegal. That should not be hapand zoos. How do you feel and zoos. How do you feel about zoos . Not a fan. Not a fan. About zoos . Not a fan. Not a fan. Theres not a fan. Not a fan. Theres just a lot of rules and regulations. Zoos are not following. And obviously we have following. And obviously we have our two sanctuaries here in the uk, but were really trying to phase out of zoos and kind of lead the path for other people to follow. And zoos are not to follow. And zoos are not rewilding, theyre animals, which a problem. Which is a big problem. Zoos do anything to and do zoos do anything to help conservation . Help conservation . No, i they they claim to no, i mean they they claim to be doing conservation work. But be doing conservation work. But ill give you some facts here. I mean , 95 of what animals in mean, 95 of what animals in captivity arent even critically endangered of the 850 mammal species that are in captivity , species that are in captivity, only 45 are viable to go back to the wild. Right. And of that, 45, only a like sorry, only a handful can go back. The rest are hybridised inbred. So if 95 are hybridised inbred. So if 95 of animals can go back to the wild , why are they in zoos . How wild, why are they in zoos . How is that conservation work . The other thing are spending other thing is zoos are spending millions of pounds, all millions millions of pounds, all zoos up to billions of pounds on putting the public first. They dont put the animals first, providing an entertainment experience, entertainment. Experience, entertainment. Thank you so much for freya, thank you so much for joining me tonight. Been joining me tonight. Youve been absolutely fantastic. Ive learned about lions and learned things about lions and gorillas. Anyway, gorillas. I never knew. Anyway, join soon for the rest of the join us soon for the rest of the show. Looks like things are show. Looks like things are heating up. Heating up. Boxed boilers, proud sponsors of weather on. Gb news. Hello of weather on. Gb news. Hello there and Greg Dewhurst. And welcome to your latest gb news weather forecast. Weve got news weather forecast. Weve got rain coming up through the next 24 hours. Could be heavy at times, but the good news is that it does start to turn drier by the middle of the week. Low pressure in charge at the moment, but that moves out the way head towards way as we head towards wednesday. High pressure wednesday. 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He also trains in mixed martial arts, replied , send me the location. Replied, send me the location. The ceo of xe, formerly known as twitter, responded vegas octagon. But elon musk has since pulled back , citing injury pulled back, citing injury concerns and the long awaited british summer could make an appearance later this week with temperatures of up to 30 degrees. Forecast however, a yellow rain warning is in place for Northern England and wales tomorrow and there are risks of flooding and disruption. But once that subsides , as once that subsides, as temperatures are due to soar , temperatures are due to soar, which could make the uk hotter than parts of california , this than parts of california, this is gb news. Well have more in about an hours time. But now it is back to. Leo well, come to is back to. Leo well, come to mark dolan tonight and lets have a look at some of your emails which have been coming in thick and fast, mostly about the grouse which is grouse shooting, which is turning quite turning out to be quite a controversial topic , richard controversial topic, richard says leo it is blasting birds out of the sky for fun, exclamation mark. Its a barbaric and knuckle dragging weekend hobby of the toffee nosed landed gentry who spend the weekdays fast asleep in the house of lords. I dont think everybody who goes grouse shooting necessarily a member shooting is necessarily a member of house of lords. Some of the house of lords. Some impassioned opinions there. Impassioned opinions there. Michael says the panel are talking. Sorry, his talking rubbish. Sorry, his words, mine. The estates words, not mine. The estates kill all the animals and birds that could kill the grouse chicks. Thats not necessarily thats not true. I mean, there are some raptors killed on grouse moors, but its illegal andifs grouse moors, but its illegal and its rightly punished very strongly when it does happen. Strongly when it does happen. Anyway, still to come, weve got the with ann the newsmaker with Ann Widdecombe. Getting widdecombe. Well be getting into tories into whether the tories risk being as the nasty party being seen as the nasty party again. And at 10 30 pm. Again. And at 10 30 pm. Sharpish, well be getting tomorrows papers hot off the press. Plus well have tonights headune press. Plus well have tonights headline heroes and back page zeroes. Big stories, big guests and always big opinions. Here is and always big opinions. Here is my take. At ten, the latest word my take. At ten, the latest word for women arrived this week, a form at a hospital in london referred to women as patients of childbearing potential. I cant imagine how a woman handed this form would feel , but maybe form would feel, but maybe theyre used to it by now. Weve seen women steadily erased from nhs literature. Theyre referred to as people who have a cervix. People assigned female at birth, patients of childbearing age people who know they are pregnant, anything basically, except the one term that everyone knows and understands. Women in the nhs is reduced. Women in the nhs is reduced. Women to a set of biological components and functions. Vaginal birth is now called frontal birth. A frontal birth frontal birth. A frontal birth sounds like something on a cruise ship. Maternity services are now called perinatal services. Perinatal sounds like services. Perinatal sounds like something youd get in nandos. Something youd get in nandos. And the vagina is now called the bonus hall. Surely if any hall is a bonus hall, its the bumhole. Breast milk is now called milk from the chest. And Breast Feeding is called chest feeding. And dont escape feeding. And men dont escape either. Instead feeding. And men dont escape either. Instead father, feeding. And men dont escape either. Instead father, they either. Instead of father, they say second biological parent. All of this is so unnecessary , all of this is so unnecessary, its done to avoid causing offence to trans men. Thats people who are born female and then decide to identify as men. But they make up a tiny fraction of the population and why would the words woman or breast be offensive to them when it comes to care, men know to health care, trans men know that have female anatomy that they have female anatomy and that words and they know that words like vagina relate them. Vagina relate to them. Ive never a single trans never heard of a single trans man that the word man complaining that the word breastfeeding them panic breastfeeding gives them a panic attack cant access nhs attack or they cant access nhs services of the Word Services because of the word mother. Why are we up ending our entire dictionary to avoid causing imaginary offence to imaginary people . And what about the feelings of women who dont get to refer to get to be get to refer to dont get to be referred to as women anymore, but category used as but instead are category used as people childbearing people of childbearing potential . Look, we should all try to be polite to people who identify as another and identify as another gender and use preferred pronouns. Use their preferred pronouns. But about the people who but what about the people who actually are that gender . Dont they referred to as they get to be referred to as women of carriers women instead of ovary carriers 7 women instead of ovary carriers . And its dangerous to use these kind looted euphemistic terms instead of words that everyone understands. Some women everyone understands. Some women havent done a joint honours in medicine and gender studies and dont know what a person in ownership of a cervix means. Dont know what a person in ownership of a cervix means. And ownership of a cervix means. And the nhs treats a lot of women who dont speak english as a first language, and women is a universally term. Universally recognised term. Patients of childbearing potential. Sounds like patients of childbearing potential. Sounds like a 90s indie band. The gender indie band. The gender ideologists who run the nhs can stick these euphemisms for women right up their bonus hole. Right up their bonus hole. Anyway what do you think . Do you agree . Do you disagree . Email into gbviews gbnews. Com and ill get to your emails after the break. Reacting to my take at ten are former labour mp Simon Danczuk , director for the common danczuk, director for the Common Sense Society, emma webb and broad caster and psychotherapist lucy beresford. Coming up, weve got the papers at 10 30 pm. Sharp with full panel reaction. Sharp with full panel reaction. But lets first talk to you about about these euphemisms that the nhs are using. Well, ive worked clinically with individuals who either are transitioning or have transitioned , and they find transitioned, and they find these new terms really offensive because they feel that it others them that it its something thats being introduced in order for to highlight the fact that theyre different , whereas the theyre different, whereas the one thing they want to do is to blend in is to not feel different. Theyve spent their whole the wrong whole lives feeling in the wrong body feeling that they body or feeling that they havent seen as who they havent been seen as who they really are. And now they finally are. Then they go into are. And then they go into a situation, a medical setting , situation, a medical setting, where actually the very people who give who they thought would give them understanding and insights are actually the people who are giving very strange giving them these very strange labels. Labels. So these terms that were being told are there to help trans people feel inclusive, included , its actually included, its actually alienating trans people and actually making them feel othered. I mean, thats thats if you want to use their own language. Language. I mean, how much more othering can you get than reducing somebody their reducing somebody to their biologic parts dehumanising biologic parts and dehumanising them way so that they them in that way so that they even things like, you know, if were if we if we try to apply their sort of like criticising everything and tearing it apart even the term bonus hole makes it sound like its some kind of add on which they would say makes men sort of normative. Its making men the model. And then theres the bonus hole, the additional thing, and also bonus hole. It sounds like a bail should go off in pound coin should go off in a pound coin should fall out. Its same same thing with its the same same thing with saying second, second biological its the same same thing with saying makesi, second biological its the same same thing with saying makesi, ssound biological its the same same thing with saying makesi, ssound like ogical its the same same thing with saying makesi, ssound like itsal parent makes it sound like its the is the first. I dont the woman is the first. I dont actually believe this, but if youre just applying their own logic yeah. Even logic to it. Yeah. And then even to woman is a person to say that a woman is a person who has childbearing potential, there are lots of women who have gone through the menopause or for whatever reason, cant have children. For whatever reason, cant have children. Imagine being woman children. Imagine being a woman who children looking who cant have children looking at form that defines at a form that defines what a woman childbearing woman is by childbearing potential. You know that thats what its referring to. You potential. You know that thats what iit; referring to. You potential. You know that thats what iit meansng to. You potential. You know that thats what iit means woman. U potential. You know that thats what iit means woman. But its know, it means woman. But its making feel less of a woman making you feel less of a woman because you cant have children when want to. The when you might want to. The whole thing is so insulting and dehumanising. And even though dehumanising. And even though you mentioned that sometimes men do get a bit of this, its almost always women. Theyre almost always women. Theyre always going for basically deconstruct being women. It really calls into but it really calls into question the people who are responsible for this. Should they running public services. They be running public services. Its a very serious question, isnt it . Anybody who can get to isnt it . Anybody who can get to this conclusion in an organisation who are setting a culture which is bizarre and to the vast majority of the people watching this program think is madness, should not be anywhere near delivering public services. So the view would be just get on with doing the day job weve got the nhs in quite a state and theyre focusing on stuff like this. Get on with treating this. Get on with treating patients. Thats the priority. Nothing else , no culture wars, nothing else, no culture wars, just that. Just that. What do you think is behind this . I weve seen this . I mean, weve seen diversity, inclusion diversity, equity and inclusion come into pretty all come into pretty much all organisations private be seen to be sector sensitive , but in fact be sector sensitive, but in fact the actual opposite is coming across because they come across as all categories as insensitive to all categories of people because its offending the people who have either transitioned or are transition learning. And it certainly offends, as emma said, the very women who are perhaps availing themselves of these services, whatever the medical treatment might be. But sometimes actually sometimes theyre actually insensitively, highlighting things that might be, you know , things that might be, you know, not possible for some of those women. Women. Yeah. And simon, i mean , have yeah. And simon, i mean, have you seen many ructions in the labour party over this . Because labour party over this . Because it seems there are elements in the labour party who are pulling in the direction of gender, ideology and other elements that are pulling back. Yeah , real tensions yeah, real tensions within the party there. And keir the labour party there. And keir starmer has only just flip flopped on this, hasnt he . Yeah, he was struggling to define woman was until define what a woman was until a few and now hes few weeks ago and now hes decided what one is and knows how to decide. Describe one. How to decide. Describe one. This is a desperate is to win the next general election, to run it past a few focus groups. Run it past a few focus groups. Before he worked out what women was, quite possibly because vote loser. Yeah, thats the reality of it and was initially it. And what he was initially trying to do appeal trying to do is to appeal to a very small section of society in terms of these issues. Its not terms of these issues. Its not theres no votes to won be by appealing to this very small section. Section. Thats right. There was a brilliant poll in the mail on sunday today, and identified sunday today, and it identified all the issues that people all the key issues that people are concerned about and gender and identity issues was second bottom with about 1. 5 of people thinking that its relevant with cost of living at 69. Yeah. And why do you think the gender ideologies have have so much power and so much influence 7 much power and so much influence . Why do you think there are special advisers close to governments . Do you think its just you know, just the case that, you know, when get disinterested when people get disinterested in government allows people with quite esoteric interests to get closer and influence government . I think youre seeing it across of our different across all of our different institutions. Weve seen institutions. So weve seen it with. Yes, weve with the police. Yes, weve seen it with public as we it with the Public Sector, as we were discussing , spending were just discussing, spending so money on pride month. So much money on pride month. Its across the Public Sector, but its also across the private sector as well. And so i think a lot of it has to do with organisers. There are certain organisations that that lobby the public and private sector provide them with forms of accreditation. We saw it this week reported by gb news investigates that a b corp esg and that was relating to the de banking scandal. And weve seen with with the gender, gender stuff in corporations as a stonewall provide all this advice and its basically to get the badge. Its like a protection racket, a mafia protection racket. Thats the problem. Theres a church of england, all of them signed this. People are signed up to this. People are mistaking noise for volume that actually there are a lot of noise here, a lot of noise around here, a lot of white around the topic. White noise around the topic. And think particularly and people think particularly maybe saying, oh , we maybe politicians saying, oh, we better attention, we better better pay attention, we better do it. But do something about it. But actually, no, people are really not by that. They just not bothered by that. They just want people to live and want other people to live and let live in the same way as thats you want for thats what you want for yourself and people are yourself. And people are tolerant and large. And tolerant by and large. Yeah. And politicians are almost infantilizing us to imagine that we cant appreciate the beauty of the difference of people. And of the difference of people. And i think some of it is that it gives, it makes it makes them feel that they have a purpose. I think that were living in a kind void meaning. And so kind of void of meaning. And so there some people find there are some people who find who find purpose in promoting these things. Theres almost a kind religious city to kind of like religious city to it. Also probably in the it. And also probably in the workplace , maybe there are some workplace, maybe there are some people for whom its as simple as its just fun to spend money on glitter tattoos , whereas on glitter tattoos, whereas actually doing your job is in actually doing yourjob is in administration and bureaucracy is maybe a little bit less fun. So i think its this kind of like gender shift that we have towards this managerial society. Yeah, but at the same time, i think that theres a concerted effort on the part of a lot of people to and push this. People to try and push this. Just briefly, of and just briefly, in terms of politicians, afraid , politicians, some are afraid, are being on the wrong are afraid of being on the wrong side that they side of history so that they might be seen as as at one time they would have been homophobic if theyd been opposed to, you know, to gay people getting rights and things. And so rights and things. And so theres this worry about being on the wrong side of history. And thats captured some and i think thats captured some peoples attention in. And weve gone down a road that were struggling to get back from. Do you think theres i mean, do you think theres an in this an element of classism in this as its almost an element of classism in this as a its almost an element of classism in this as a new its almost an element of classism in this as a new language; almost an element of classism in this as a new language islmost an element of classism in this as a new language is being like a new language is being developed and unless you have the time and the energy and the resources to research all this and read the guardian and cover the cover every day and do the right University Courses at the right University Courses at the right university, then youre not going to know the correct terms which which change every every two weeks. And we see it with not just with gender, but with not just with gender, but with know , black with race, you know, black people to be referred to as people have to be referred to as bame and then bipoc and then global majority and yeah, i mean, its almost to sort of exclude people who its elitist and exclusive ironically. Yeah. They are the very thing yeah. They are the very thing that they accuse everybody else of but it is this the language they use is a very closed system that you learn from doing things like gender studies at university. And a point university. And this is a point that about, you know, that you made about, you know, signing that if signing in the forms that if whether english is your second language this like language or not, this is like learning language. Learning a whole other language. And people who are not and so people who are not Universal City graduates who or who dont buy into that, who just speak plainly and with common sense, will find themselves falling afoul of it just because theyre not using the turns phrases that the right turns of phrases that are to really are not used to really communicate anything they to communicate anything they use to signal that youre part an signal that youre part of an in group. You dont use in group. And if you dont use that youre not that language, youre not part of and youll of the in group, and then youll find possibly find yourself possibly de banking out. Yeah. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, yeah. Analysis. Back good analysis. You go back to rochdale burnley, where im from, people look at blankly from, people look at you blankly and what is this and say, what is this conversation about . They have absolutely zero interest whatsoever. Yeah so its a small but very vocal minority of people on on twitter and in some other places that are creating a lot of noise and that steering a lot of noise and that steering a lot of noise and that steering a lot of very real government policy thats making its way through to the in the Public Sector and through to private companies as well through diversity , equity and inclusion. Diversity, equity and inclusion. But in reality, its just a tiny that tiny fraction of people who are who are rattling, who are jumping up and down and making lots of noise. But its also the financial incentives. So fact you incentives. So the fact that you can accredited for can get accredited for in cooperating environmental, social and governance into your whether its Public Private whether its public or private sector , in fact, that even the sector, in fact, that even the Church England commissioners church of england commissioners who investments who handle the investments for the england are signed who handle the investments for theto england are signed who handle the investments for theto the england are signed who handle the investments for theto the uns ngland are signed who handle the investments for theto the uns principlese signed who handle the investments for theto the uns principles forjned up to the uns principles for responsible investment, which incorporates esg responsible. So no surprise that they are so keen on reaching net zero, because this is something that is obviously on their agenda. That you its interesting that you mentioned because mentioned the church because when seems like a when a lot of this seems like a new religion with its new rules to be followed, but with to be to be followed, but with with actual with very little actual practical , with very little actual practical, real with very little actual practical , real practical with very little actual practical, real practical use. Practical, real practical use. Anyway, coming up, weve got the papers at 10 30 pm. Sharp with a full panel reaction. Next, a full panel reaction. But next, tonights ann tonights newsmaker is Ann Widdecombe. You in couple widdecombe. See you in a couple of radio. Welcome back to mark dolan tonight with me, leo kearse. Lets have a couple of your emails. So stephen says, i go to emails. So stephen says, i go to the pride parade in birmingham, which is a morning early afternoon event, but like many gay people, ive long stopped going to the second part of the event where you have to buy a very expensive ticket to attend all the concerts and bars, etcetera. A nonsense, no etcetera. So a no nonsense, no nonsense thing about pride there. Moira says that shes very angry at all this nonsense by the nhs. How much of the nhs money is being wasted on these gender identity issues . Quite right, quite right. Moira. They need to focus on clearing the waiting lists. And you know, ive got massive support for, for the nhs and the people doing their doing their jobs and i wish they werent getting distracted with gender ideology, nonsense. Stella says that these nonsense. Stella says that these terms are disgusting and insulting to women and lee says the quickest way to equality is to d label people. But it seems to d label people. But it seems to be all about labelling people these days, and you have to treat people, treat these people. This way and those people. This way and those people that way, which is the opposite of equality, quite right there. Anyway, its time now for the newsmaker in which a fearless commentator speaks out on big stories of the day. On the big stories of the day. And newsmaker is and tonights newsmaker is former conservative minister Ann Widdecombe. Now, it was reported today that senior conservative lives are concerned that they will be once again branded the nasty Party Following the latest news on migrant crossings. Nasty Party Following the latest news on migrant crossings. There news on migrant crossings. There is also a growing number of tory ministers apparently backing plans to quit the European Convention on human rights. So convention on human rights. So are the conservatives just playing nasty with no regard for human rights . Good evening and good to good to see you. Thanks good to good to see you. Thanks for joining us. Good forjoining us. Good evening and what do you make of this . I mean, the tories, really the nasty party now, of course, theyre not. I mean, that that was a phrase used by the former and unlamented Prime Minister theresa may when the conservative were in opposition. And she thought that that was a way of currying favour with the tory party has never been the nasty party. But what it has always been is the divide party and those divisions are now really coming to the fore. There really coming to the fore. There is a section of the party that is a section of the party that is in tune with Public Opinion which knows that people want the migrant crisis solved. And if that means coming out of echr, then so be it. If that is the answer to stopping the boats, then so be it. And there is nothing nasty. Whatever over about trying to stop people entering a highly dangerous situation for no good reason other than the profit of the people who who are making money out of this. And people are drowning at the very best. They have a terrible journey. They come here. They are not immediately given british citizenship and given a job and all the rest of it. You know, the streets of london are not paved with gold now. Theres nothing nasty about wanting to stop that. Theres nothing nasty stop that. Theres nothing nasty about wanting to stop the sheer pressure that all this is putting on school meals, on transport, on health services. Theres nothing nasty about that. But there has always been a section of the tory party that wants to be lib dem and they are the people that we are now heanng the people that we are now hearing from. So my message to the tory party is fine, by all means give up trying to solve the immigration problem by all means ditch any thought of coming out of echr and reform. Uk will do it for all you mate. But dont you think i mean you talk about the people wanting the migrant crisis to be resolved , but some people , some resolved, but some people, some people disagree and when people like lee anderson, politicians like lee anderson, politicians like lee anderson come out and use quite, quite brutal language, this maybe got some some ugly connotations if you go back a few decades. I mean, i love lee anderson myself. I think hes blunt. Hes tough talking. But i just think language like they should f off back to france , its going to back to france, its going to turn people away and push people away. When you really want to bnng away. When you really want to bring people on board and support the efforts to solve the migrant crisis as well. Actually, i disagree. I think that probably a large proportion of the population thought, thank heavens for that. When lee anderson said what theyd been thinking for a very long time now, i wouldnt have used the verb in question. As i said verb in question. As i said earlier on this week on gb news, i wouldnt have used that term. But the sentiment, which is france is a perfectly safe country. You know, they have country. You know, they have chosen to leave that safe country. They have chosen not to 6my country. They have chosen not to apply for asylum there , but to apply for asylum there, but to try to get illegally into this country. And then they have the country. And then they have the gall to complain about the fact that everything isnt to their satisfaction. Well, i think its quite right to say i would probably phrase it buzz off back to france and do you think this this problem can be resolved without leaving the echr. Its without leaving the echr. Its difficult to see how you now. It difficult to see how you now. It is a fact that an awful lot of countries simply dont comply with rulings from the ec. And we with rulings from the ec. And we actually we britain have have a very, very , very good reputation very, very, very good reputation for abiding by rulings. Were one of the highest of rulings one of the highest of rulings are actually observed by britain. So you know, we could say , well, were staying echr, say, well, were staying echr, but were not going to take a blind bit of notice of this. And if you want to complain about that, well, look at germanys record of complying with rulings. You know , look at some rulings. You know, look at some other countries records. Well, other countries records. Well, fine. You know, if its good enough for them, its good enough for them, its good enough britain. Dont enough for britain. We dont actually your were actually like your ruling. Were not with it. Now not going to comply with it. Now thatis not going to comply with it. Now that is another and its that is another option. And its less drastic than coming out altogether. Altogether. Well, is an option that well, that is an option that we could look at. I love the idea of Ann Widdecombe telling britain to break law. And britain to break the law. And its great to talk to you tonight. Thanks for joining its great to talk to you tonight. Thanks forjoining us. Its great to talk to you tonigcoming nks for joining us. Its great to talk to you tonigcoming up forjoining us. Its great to talk to you tonigcoming up , orjoining us. Its great to talk to you tonigcoming up, weve ing us. Its great to talk to you tonigcoming up, weve got us. Its great to talk to you tonigcoming up, weve got the and coming up, weve got the papers at 10 30 pm. Sharp with full panel reaction. Plus, full panel reaction. Plus, tonights heroes and tonights headline, heroes and back page zeroes. And i want to know yours. Send them in to gbviews gbnews. Com and well get to them shortly. 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As landlords profiteer from unsafe housing. Well, if we built more houses , there built more houses, there wouldnt be such an imbalance in the market and they wouldnt be able to profiteer the tent crash. The metro leads with tent crash. The metro leads with tent crash baby in miracle escape. Crash baby in miracle escape. That was that horrifying crash at a campsite in wales. Good to hear that. A baby escaped the i leads with surprise hike to inflation next month will boost state pension. Good news for state pension. Good news for people who get that im still a few years off. The daily mail has patients trying to escape labour welsh nhs apparently soaring numbers of patients from wales are seeking care in engush wales are seeking care in english hospitals to escape the longer waiting lists under the labour run welsh nhs. So devolution hasnt just been a disaster in scotland then the guardian leads with lower income pupils expected to be hit hardest by grade deflation. Then hardest by grade deflation. Then they also have a picture there of somebody clearing mines in the next donetsk area in ukraine, and they say theyre desperate for help in clearing mines. There are up to five mines. There are up to five mines per square metre , so mines per square metre, so fingers crossed they can fix that. And the land can become habitable again. The sun leads habitable again. The sun leads with kane, could play for germany. Theres a bit of a caveat there. Its his son. If caveat there. Its his son. If harry kane son is born in munich , then of course he could play for germany. The daily express has some good news for a change. Brexit boost bringing business back to britain. A lot of bees there like that and the daily star finally has were mad for it. The summer saved brits to fry in 31 degrees. French fries. Well, i like that. So somebody happy about hotter weather instead of seeing the planet is burning. Thats nice to see. But yeah, lets go back to that that Brexit Britain brexit boost bringing business back to britain. So firms are benefiting from benefiting from brexit by bringing their business the production of goods back into the uk. I dont know if its the supply chains are just too complicated when theyve got to have production the uk, have production outside the uk, but weve few good news but weve seen a few good news stories about brexit. We always knew that brexit was going to be an hit on the economy, an initial hit on the economy, but then long term it could reap dividends as we sort of enjoy a bit of singaporean freedom. I mean, this , this is some good mean, this, this is some good news, surely. Emma yeah , i think, know, emma yeah, i think, you know, often people saying, well, often i get people saying, well, surely you think that the brexit vote mistake because we vote was a mistake because we havent suddenly the havent suddenly reached the sunlit uplands. Well, people sunlit uplands. Well, do people who to thwart brexit are who tried to thwart brexit are still people who are running still the people who are running the country . You know , there are the country . You know, there are still lot of in the house still a lot of them in the house of of commons. Things of house of commons. Things werent turn around werent going to turn around overnight. Brexit was a vote in principle to get our sovereignty back. That was what it was about. Whatever the about. So whatever the consequence is, if we screw it up, its at least its us who screwed it up rather than us handing power to handing our power over to another entity that can push us around. So i think, i mean any, around. So i think, i mean any, any good news like this, its nice to see something other than, you know, usually you see everything being blamed on brexit, if its a very brexit, even if its only a very tenuous link. And of course, because of the pandemic, its sort of shrouding brexit. We dont know what could have happened if that hadnt have immediately followed. So obviously , this is this is obviously, this is this is wonderful news. And i think that the is increasingly becoming, the eu is increasingly becoming, as many of us predicted , had an as many of us predicted, had an unfriendly place for business, although i mean saying that it looks like the eu or many countries in the eu are actually drawing closer to the uk. I think in the immediate aftermath brexit was aftermath of brexit there was a there a need for the eu to there was a need for the eu to be seen as almost punishing britain dissuade britain for leaving to dissuade others as but others from leaving as well. But now know, that thats now that know, now that thats happened weve seen happened and now weve seen theres actually countries worse happened and now weve seen there britain ally countries worse happened and now weve seen therebritain on countries worse happened and now weve seen there britain on the ntries worse happened and now weve seen therebritain on the edgesworse happened and now weve seen therebritain on the edges ofrse than britain on the edges of europe invading europe, now people are a bit warmer to britain. Yeah, id been a remainer in the referendum , but as soon as the referendum, but as soon as the referendum, but as soon as the decision result was taken and a majority of the country wanted to leave the eu, then i got fully behind it. You know, thats, thats democracy. Yeah, it good news. I think it it is good news. I think it shows a resilient britain actually is as a nation. I think actually is as a nation. I think were, you know, especially this is talking about manufacturing, which always been very which weve always been very strong at some growth and stronger resilience in terms of manufacturing. I think well be most welcome in the uk. Yeah fantastic. And the daily mail has patience trying to escape labours welsh nhs. So apparently even the waiting lists are apparently really long in in england theyre longer in wales. I mean, is this another example of devolution failing . Example of devolution failing . You know what i think you get commentators trying to guess what a Labour Government will be like. Well, the short answer to like. Well, the short answer to that is, look at devolution, whether andy burnham in whether its andy burnham in Greater Manchester labour in wales , and theres some a number wales, and theres some a number of failures in terms of devolution and how labour in local government or these devolved levels are actually performing. You know, they wanted devolution in wales and take responsibility for their own decisions and look at the consequences of that. So it does call into question labours ability to govern. It says, and the really big figures, you know, its 1 in 5 in wales are actually on a some of actually on a some form of waiting whereas its and waiting list, whereas its and im going to say only 13. But thats even still a shocking statistic. But1 in 5 shocking statistic. But 1 in 5 is pretty soul destroying. If youre the one waiting for your hip replacement or knee hip replacement or your knee operation. Wonder theyve operation. So no wonder theyve been the, you know, the been crossing the, you know, the theoretical to into theoretical border to come into england. Is the number england. This is the number of people seeking in people who are seeking care in engush people who are seeking care in english avoid the english hospitals to avoid the wait risen by 40 in the wait has risen by 40 in the last two years. Wow. I mean, thats huge. And if you lived on the border of wales and you can easily cross into england, i mean, it shouldnt be that with health care, i keep saying over and over again that, you know, now we have a universal lack of health care. If we dont solve this problem. People this problem. There are people in cant get to this problem. There are people in a cant get to this problem. There are people in a dentist. Cant get to this problem. There are people in a dentist. Yeah cant get to this problem. There are people in a dentist. Yeah and get to this problem. There are people in a dentist. Yeah and yet, to this problem. There are people in a dentist. Yeah and yet, you see a dentist. Yeah and yet, you know, resources seem to be a sort of postcode lottery. So sort of postcode lottery. So i think youre right. If anybodys wondering what a Labour Government might look like, then you just have to look at this kind of mismanagement because if thats the whole country , thats the whole country, theres be nowhere to theres going to be nowhere to run mean , is that although i mean, is that completely fair . Because, i mean, we look at devolved parliaments, to parliaments, theyre subject to nowhere near the amount of scrutiny the westminster so scrutiny the westminster is. So i westminster, even though i think westminster, even though it seems like it doesnt, it does higher does operate at a higher standard. Standard. Scrutiny who, though . Scrutiny from who, though . What kind difference do you what kind of difference do you get the opposition . Get between the opposition . Standing theres people standing across across the floor, you across the across the floor, you know, scrutiny , every piece of know, scrutiny, every piece of policy and holding peoples feet to the fire or theyre supposed to the fire or theyre supposed to anyway. I mean, the way the countrys going, im not sure its happening. I mean, we can see the picture in the guardian there of somebody clearing mines in ukraine. I mean , it looks in ukraine. I mean, it looks like the ukrainian counter offensive is stalled. Some offensive is stalled. Some people have said that this is because as the west was too slow in delivering weaponry to the to ukraine. So russia had time to fortify and lay mines and tank traps. So then you know, when ukraine did get the tanks, they couldnt just roll down and have that, you know, that that fast that, you know, that that fast that fast recapturing of land that fast recapturing of land that we saw in the north, there was a little worry that there was, in a way, too much ukraine fatigue, that actually the countries in west werent as countries in the west werent as galvanised and maybe well, we knew always going be knew it was always going to be quite game. Quite a long game. If youre the country but if youre the country thats having to put out those munitions, ammunitions, then we would saying , whats the would be saying, whats the return on investment . And return on investment . And zelenskyy in a way has been going on a big Pr Initiative around the world, whether its america, saudi arabia, going to many of the european capitals to say, look, dont forget about us. Yeah it was definitely 20, 20 twos news, but photos of whats happening in ukraine are few and far between on the front pages nowadays. Its no longer shocking , i think, as well. Like shocking, i think, as well. Like we the beginning , shocking, i think, as well. Like we the beginning, i think we at the beginning, i think seeing for photographs like that in europe , if not for the first in europe, if not for the First Time Since the second world war, but such graphic images like that, bringing back peoples memories of that, whether its memories of that, whether its memories of that, whether its memories of their own or memories of their own or memories of their grandparents and i think people became so desensitised to the constant round the clock footage that now we see these images and, you know, surprised know, not particularly surprised by them, possibly because weve become fatigued. But become fatigued. But its interesting, article says interesting, this article says that most that ukraine is now the most heavily country on earth. Heavily mined country on earth. I mean, the entirety yeah. I mean, the entirety of, you know, russias military might or we used to assume it was it was might it turns out to not be as effective as as we once thought. But the once thought. But yeah, the amount munitions and cluster amount of munitions and cluster bombs and mines that theyve laid in ukraine and anti personnel traps, its incredible. And theyre obviously going to need, you know, assuming ukraine does liberate the land, theyre going to need help for years to come. And clearing that. And were also seeing on the independent the scandal of renters left facing deadly hazards in homes. I mean, is this just the natural result of the Housing Market and the fact that there arent enough homes . So landlords can basically operate how they want . 7. I . I think it 7 i think it is 7 i think it is a . I think it is a case of 7 i think it is a case of that theres a real shortage, isnt there . We arent building anywhere near enough houses. Theres about that. And anywhere near enough houses. Thereof about that. And anywhere near enough houses. Thereof these about that. And anywhere near enough houses. Thereof these problems hat. And anywhere near enough houses. Thereof these problems will and anywhere near enough houses. Thereof these problems will also some of these problems will also occur the public in social occur in the public in social housing as well as this is talking the private rented talking about the private rented sector. But will apply sector. But it will just apply just much to the to social just as much to the to social landlords as well. Housing landlords as well. Housing associations, local authorities that have housing and the conditions in many houses, properties are really low. Yeah. So we need more houses and fewer because the people fewer people because the people coming across the channel are not bringing a house with them anyway. The anyway. Coming up, we have the times after the break. Times newspaper after the break. Plus tonights headline, heroes and back page zeroes and want to know. Send them into gb know yours. Send them into gb views gbnews. Com. In views gbnews. Com. See you in a couple welcome back to mark dolan tonight. With me tonight are Simon Danczuk, emma webb and lucy beresford. And we have the times now and they lead with shots fired in migrant clash before vessel sank. I mean , this before vessel sank. I mean, this is an incredible story. They say gunfire and clashes involving migrants desperate to get to britain broke out in dunkirk in the hours before a small boat sankin the hours before a small boat sank in the channel killing six people. Witnesses said yesterday. So chaos spread through the camp on friday as migrants prepared to board boats laid on by smuggling gangs despite choppy water and high winds, which then proved deadly. I mean, it sounds from from reading this as though this precipitated the chaos, the gunfire at the camp precipitated them going into the going into them going into the going into the boats before they were ready. Some of the boats were over overladen with with people. One of them was overburdened by by 65 overloaded by 65 people, which you know then the in the rush to get across the channel sadly they might not have taken as much care and attention as they would have. It sounds like a panic that they just all of this chaos was happening and they headed to the waters despite the fact that it was too choppy for them to go. Yeah, it also tells us we have to the criminal have to break the criminal people, smugglers, gangs, business because thats Business Model, because thats whats driving this. It involves firearms. Whats driving this. It involves firearms. Its a significant part of criminal activity and credit to the government. The credit to the government. The rwandan policy, which i support , is about breaking the Business Model , is about breaking the Business Model, making it less , is about breaking the Business Model , making it less attractive model, making it less attractive for people to come here is about breaking the Business Model, and if it means turning the boats back, then thats what needs to be done. And if that means leaving the European Court of human rights, then thats what should done. Theres should be done. And theres only there will be only one people to blame on this. Its those the blame on this. Its those on the left, politics blame on this. Its those on the left, been politics blame on this. Its those on the left, been denying s blame on this. Its those on the left, been denying this is an whove been denying this is an issue all along. Yeah, we ultimately have to take the right action to deter whats currently going on. People dying as well. Yeah. I mean, it seems it seems disgusting people are seems disgusting that people are stymieing governments stymieing the governments efforts boats, efforts to stop these boats, boats crossing while people are dying and painting it as if its the government who are the ones who immoral and who are being immoral and insensitive, theyve insensitive, and theyve theyve now made this deal with the turkish, which will share intelligence and personnel and resources to try and get as close to the source as possible where the dinghies are coming from to try and sort of disrupt the supply chains, because there are a lot has to go in to all of the various stages before youve managed to smuggle the people to calais and all of the equipment in order to get them across the channel. So this is quite a sort of like complicated, sophisticated outfit theyve got going outfit that theyve got going on. I think now people are on. But i think now people are feeling so , so disheartened by feeling so, so disheartened by repeated government failures. I repeated government failures. I dont think, given the legal situation, given the activist lawyers who will do anything that they to can get people to sort of game the system , i dont sort of game the system, i dont think theres much you can do unless you do Something Like. But the problem is that the human isnt actually human rights it isnt actually just what the british just about what the British Government do because government can do because so much you know, people much of this you know, people are coming from tunisia and libya and theyre going to italy, theyre going to greece. Theres a comment in this particular on front particular article on the front page of the times talking about how authorities seem how the french authorities seem to incredibly slow to be incredibly slow at rescuing whod gone rescuing the people whod gone into the leaving for into the chop, leaving them for the british, for the rnli to come along. But actually , we come along. But actually, we i dont really hear politicians being honest about the fact that this isnt just a british problem. This is a certainly a european problem, if not a global problem. And therefore global problem. And therefore there needs to be a coordinated response. Well, lets so sorry, but if you look at labours solution to this, they have a five point plan which makes no sense at all. Do a new deal with france, give more money in international aid. I mean, thats not going to solve the problem. Um, yeah, it probably handle that the nhs anyway , that worse than the nhs anyway, its that worse than the nhs anyway, wsfime that worse than the nhs anyway, its time now for headline heroes and back page zeros. Emma, whos your headline . Emma, whos your headline . Hero . Hes a musician whose name oliver anthony, and some name is oliver anthony, and some people will have heard of him if theyre twitter or theyre on on twitter or any other social media. You can see a of there almost a picture of him there almost a magnificent a picture of him there almost a ma hes ent a picture of him there almost a ma hes become an almost hes become an almost overnight sensation. Overnight sensation. And a factory worker and hes a factory worker from virginia who has written and performed this song, rich men, rich men north of richmond. And is of best pieces and it is one of the best pieces of music that ive heard in a long time. This guy is absolutely phenomenal. Its real absolutely phenomenal. Its real music. It comes from the heart andifs music. It comes from the heart and its connected with people. And its connected with people. And hes this sensation. And hes become this sensation. Hes reached the top of the itunes chart in the United States , and he is being labelled states, and he is being labelled by megxit means like the Rolling Stones magazine mean and the Media Establishment as being no surprise, right wing, presumably just because he is a blue Collar Worker from the wrong part of the country working class guy whos singing about working class problems and the music elite in Rolling Stones magazine is trying to associate him with with the right wing saying that hes become the hero of right wing. I think now when we see the words right wing or far right extremist, we just assume its probably off mumsnet, extremist, we just assume its prolitsy off mumsnet, extremist, we just assume its prolits bizarre off mumsnet, extremist, we just assume its prolits bizarre that off mumsnet, extremist, we just assume its prolits bizarre that onorking1et, but its bizarre that a working class guy would be labelled in this way by the left. My is lee anderson mp my hero is lee anderson mp for saying it how it should be said. If you dont like said. Really. If you dont like the barges, if Illegal Immigrants dont like the barge accommodation , then go back to accommodation, then go back to france, right . So hes vocalising a lot of people vocalising what a lot of people are thinking. And lucy, whos your headune . Hero . Its lionesses. So hero . Its the lionesses. So we very tense match yesterday. Oh, the football. Oh, the football. Oh, the football. Not the womens clubs, not the aspinall rescue lions, although that would be beautiful as well. Yeah. No, this is the as well. Yeah. No, this is the womens football team. Were now through the semi final , which through to the semi final, which will on wednesday. Will be played on wednesday. Were playing australia, which is the only team that has beaten us while weve been coached by sanna us while weve been coached by sarina wiegman. So yeah, the sarina wiegman. So yeah, the omens are well, weve had some injuries and one of our key players is on a match suspension. So yeah, if we get through this, its to going be absolutely phenomenal. Okay, great. Nominal emma, your back . Emma, whos your back . Emma, whos your back . How bad is it that page zero. How bad is it that i didnt know that we were even playing football . Back. Page playing football . My back. Page zero are the eco zealots who slashed the tires of the anti ulez campaigners. So there was an anti ulez protest and eco protesters slashed their tires. Well, someone slashed their tires, presumably in objection to that being against ulez b, thats going to lead to more emissions because theyre going to replace the tires. Emissions because theyre going to the replace the tires. Emissions because theyre going to the whos lace the tires. Emissions because theyre going to the whos whos1e tires. Emissions because theyre going to the whos whos youras. Emissions because theyre going to the whos whos your back . The whos whos your back . The whos whos your back . My the Home Office Civil Servants couldnt get the servants who couldnt get the bibby stockholm barge prepared in time and safe and ready for action. Yeah, quite right. And lucy, Robbie Williams, singer who has decided that he wants to not grow old gracefully , but hes grow old gracefully, but hes going to submit to tweakments. Going to submit to tweakments. Now these are non invasive of sort of its not plastic surgery. Its the things that you would do having sort of facial massages and things. But he wants to have a lift under the eyes. And i just i look at him and i think hes quite a handsome guy. Anyway, just grow old gracefully. He you dont old gracefully. He you dont need to indulge in these things. Dont look better with a, dont men look better with a, you know, a few, few grizzled you know, a few, a few grizzled wrinkles, in wrinkles, grizzled character in there and. Yeah, but i guess its always worth living up to his thank you very much. Im 27. When you were 14. When you were 14. Scotsman has ever lived but i mean Robbie Williams he said in his in his song i want to what did he say . I want to get old before i die. Hope im old before i die. Hope im old before i die. So maybe its just living. Living out that lucy yeah, well, dont indulge a sort well, just dont indulge a sort of i concerns of industry that i have concerns about more generally in terms of particularly young are particularly young girls who are influenced and see perfection on things like instagram and tiktok and , well, have and think, oh, well, i can have these little tweakments so youre worried that theres going other some 45 going to be some other some 45 year men out there are year old men out there who are going to like, well, robbie year old men out there who are going to hasike, well, robbie year old men out there who are going to has had nell, robbie year old men out there who are going to has had this robbie year old men out there who are going to has had this done. E williams has had this done. Same. Would ever consider . No, i dont think would. No, i dont think i would. Im grow the beard im just going to grow the beard bigger and bigger. I think look like singer. Like the singer. Dont might be i dont know. I might be tempted. Might take another tempted. I might take another trip see trip to turkey. See what . See what they can straighten out and tweak. Tweakments some tweak. Get some tweakments some bags lifted under eyes. Bags lifted under my eyes. Anyway, you for watching. Anyway, thank you for watching. Mark dolan tonight with me. Leo kyrees. If you want to see more of the headlines, weve looked at but at the front pages, but headliners is up next and they take dive into the take a deep dive into the newspapers with three comedians. So thats the next hour and its repeated at five in the morning. But thank you so much for joining me filling in for mark dolan. Its been an absolute pleasure. Ive been joined by emma webb , Simon Danczuk, lucy emma webb, Simon Danczuk, lucy beresford. Good night. Beresford. Good night. The temperatures rising. The temperatures rising. Boxt solar proud sponsors of weather on. Gb news. Hello there weather on. Gb news. 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Clear skies for Northern Ireland, scotland, some showery rain in places temperatures places and temperatures generally remaining in double figures. A wet start across figures. So a wet start across england and wales monday morning. Heavy rain across Trans Pennine routes in particular if youre travelling here, rain, heavy as well across parts of wales, just slowly pushing eastwards through the day. Pushing eastwards through the day. Sunshine and pushing eastwards through the day. Sunshine and showers for day. Sunshine and showers for Northern Ireland and scotland. Again, some these heavy at again, some of these heavy at times and temperatures times too, and temperatures generally the high teens to low 20s quite a muggy feel where we do see sunshine across do see any sunshine across central western of central and western parts of england and wales later on tuesday, a much calmer picture, High Pressure starting to build in as that low pressure moves out of the way. Still fairly unsettled. So a day of sunny unsettled. So a day of sunny spells and scattered showers. Some of the showers on the heavy side. And then it settles down wednesday into thursday. Plenty wednesday into thursday. Plenty of sunny spells and temperatures starting to rise. The starting to rise. The temperatures rising. Temperatures rising. Boxt solar proud sponsors of weather on. Gb news. Very good evening to you. Im very good evening to you. Im Aaron Armstrong in the gb newsroom. The government is newsroom. The government is facing renewed criticism of its immigration strategy after six migrants when their vessel migrants died when their vessel sank off the french coast yesterday. 509 people crossed yesterday. 509 people crossed the English Channel in ten small boats , bringing the total for boats, bringing the total for the year to more than 16,500. It is a further setback for the governments stop the boats pledge, which is one of Prime Minister rishi sunaks five key priorities. Minister rishi sunaks five key priorities. Campaign groups have described the deaths as appalling and preventable. Appalling and preventable. Relatives of those who died in the omagh bombing 25 years ago have held a special service to mark the anniversary. 29 people, including a pregnant woman with twins, died in the car bomb attack by the real ira. It was attack by the real ira. It was the greatest single loss of life in the history of the troubles. In the history of the troubles. No one has been criminally convicted of carrying out the attack. The search for victims attack. The search for victims of the wildfires in hawaii is continuing , but questions are continuing, but questions are being asked about the states response. At least 93 people have died on the island of maui, but up to 1000 more are unaccounted for. Hawaiis Emergency Notification system and Decision Making are set to be reviewed after some residents questioned whether more could have been done to warn them about the fire. Support centres have been set up across the island, providing respite and helping families reunite. Helping families reunite. But a lot of families that were stuck and had to swim like i couldnt imagine my son swimming and my grandma swimming in the water. I think in my in my life, what i have imagined that we would have Something Like this, a catastrophe of an unequal dis aster our entire island is been devastated by this. But none more so than the individuals who are still looking for loved ones or know that theyve already lost their loved ones. Takeaway pints can continue to be sold in pubs across england and wales. They were due to expire in september or the rules at least were. But the governments decided to keep its pandemic era licencing rules. The sun claims the Prime Minister, who doesnt drink, stepped in to extend the policy. The rule was introduced in 2020 to help struggling establishments stay afloat dunng establishments stay afloat during lockdown. The long during lockdown. The long awaited british summer could make a belated appearance later this week , with temperatures of this week, with temperatures of up to 30 degrees predicted. Up to 30 degrees predicted. However, a yellow rain warning is in place for Northern England and tomorrow , with risks and wales tomorrow, with risks of and disruption. Ian of flooding and disruption. Ian however, once the rain subsides, temperatures are expected to soan temperatures are expected to soar, making some parts of the uk hotter than california. This uk hotter than california. This is gb news. More on your radio,