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And now on your Smart Speaker by saying, play gb news this is britains news. Channel news. Channel good evening. Dont worry, we good evening. Dont worry, we will get to the farcical scenes in the English Channel today, which i have called carry on up the channel. But first, and this is really , really important, you is really, really important, you may never have heard of them, but theres an organisation called they were founded called b corp. They were founded in the usa in 2006 and they work across the globe to sign up companies to provide them with certificate version of their social and environmental performance. Yep Companies Need to hit a criteria amounting to 80 points. Ill come to how they get those points in a few minutes according to their website, there are now more than 7000 b corporations operating in 93 different countries. So who 93 different countries. So who are they . Well some firms you may have heard of, for example, one who is thoroughly approved of is innocent smoothies. Now, of is innocent smoothies. Now, remember, this was the lot that previously took advice from the trans charity mermaids, which offered chest binders to children without parental consent. Then, of course, weve got body shop. Yes, theyve been certified by b corp and they have an online line safe space for the lgbt community. Obe then theres ben and jerrys. Now theres ben and jerrys. Now they say that illegal migrant ice crossing the English Channel to the uk are doing so because they have no other choice and they have no other choice and the government are scapegoating them quite what thats got to do with ice cream. I have no idea. But there you are. And of course needi but there you are. And of course need i say more . Guardian media need i say more . Guardian media group who, of course are committed to becoming Carbon Neutral by 2030 and wholly unsurprisingly, the bank coutts and co yes, of course there are certified member of b corp indeed the former. Im pleased to say, ceo peter flavel at the time of achieving his B Corp Certification, said this success is no longer means prioritising shareholders at the expense of everything else, though success is now about balancing people , is now about balancing people, profits and the planet. A quick profits and the planet. A quick reminder, folks , when he says reminder, folks, when he says shareholders, he means you. He means us because 39 of that bank, of course , is owned by us. Bank, of course, is owned by us. They were bailed out using our taxes. Now taking a much closer look at this strange , mysterious look at this strange, Mysterious Group is gb news investigates. Reporter charlie peters. Charlie baken reporter charlie peters. Charlie baker. Who are they . Well b corp, as youve said, that 2006 us firm, which is assessing firms according to their environmental, social and governance profiles, how does the business do in that kind of Progressive Field of operations . Now they certify companies who, in their own words , make who, in their own words, make a legal commitment not to only their shareholders, but also what they describe as stakeholders. And in order to make that assessment, they have a Standards Advisory Council which companies which assesses companies according how they meet that according to how they meet that practise. But whos on it . Some very interesting. Very very interesting. Some very interesting people indeed. One of the advisers has a job title. The managing director of corporate Racial Equity at the company she works for. Shes wrote a piece recently about how companies meaningfully companies that meaningfully prioritise racial and economic eqtu prioritise racial and Economic Equity will retain top talent and have a competitive edge. And have a competitive edge. Junior B Corp Consultants that i saw say they specialise in sustainability and what they describe as social impact action plans. And we also saw one plans. And we also saw one Senior B Corp executive lamenting what he described as the emotional reactions of white managers in dealing with implicit bias issues. Managers in dealing with implicit bias issues. As you can implicit bias issues. As you can see, some very heavily laden progressive language in their work. But finally , one of the work. But finally, one of the most interesting, i think , most interesting, i think, comments we saw from from Senior B Corp leaders was its executive director in the uk who said on linkedin that its a Global Network working to reinvent our Economic System so that it works for each and every one of us, reinvent our global Economic System. Well , coutts is system. Well, coutts is a member and indeed, as youve said. Do you think that the actions of coutts recently in its B Corp Certification work for each and every one of us in its work didnt work very well for me and perhaps many others. Now. So lets say im a company and i want to get the b corps certification. Whats the process i have to go through . Well, there are a score of 80 out of 200 on their Impact Assessment or gb news investigates took that Impact Assessment today and it was quite extraordinary. Some of the questions that they wanted us to look at and an Inclusive Recruitment and hiring process focusing around equality, diversity and inclusion was really at the heart of this offering. So much of it revolved around this. They want to know if you actively recruit from organisations or services serve Individuals Services that serve individuals from what they describe as underrepresented communities such ethnic minorities and such as ethnic minorities and the lgbt community. Theyre very interested. If you ask about the incarceration history of potential applicants to the company and you also get additional points if your company is led or majority led by anyone from these, again, under represented groups. So you get nought. 41 points. If you have a female leaders and nought point eight one points if you have a majority led female executive c suite in your company, the same is true if youre led by individuals from underrepresented racial or ethnic minorities. Underrepresented racial or ethnic minorities. You also have ethnic minorities. You also have extra points for a having a group explicitly responsible for diversity, equity or inclusion. Diversity, equity or inclusion. In coutts of course famously had its its its Racial Equality Task force which using edi related investigations changed the de banking process that that bank has. They also reward and give many points for Diversity Improvement goals. They give you points for having Equity Analysis on pay by demographic factors, identity, identity , factors, identity, identity, identity. But heres the most shocking bit you get just 0. 09 points for managing the privacy and security of a client and their customer data. Well now lets have a think about this, shall we . Because. Because coutts breach my privacy so can they remain a member of bethel or should we report them to b corp . I think i think there is clearly questions for coutts and b corp to answer here in how they assess how companies become certified because clearly there is such a focus on this esg related assessment scandal assessment criteria and theyre clearly very focussed on the diversity and the identity of workers and indeed leadership. As we know that coutts was. But when it comes to some of the stuff that really matters to customers and businesses alike , customers and businesses alike, the transparency of data, the security of data and personal information , well that doesnt information, well that doesnt seem to get the same level of award and know and you talk about groups, but about underrepresent groups, but its because im its interesting because im looking here at a company that is a B Corp Company that a Recruitment Company and they are very, very clear. Very, very clear. Theyre part of an initiative called no turning back. They have goals to work towards 20 of the wider marketing sector to come from black asian minority ethnic communities and 20 to stay in the sector and reach the top jobs. And 20 of the population are not from those categories. So actually, what categories. So actually, what theyre pushing on firms is for White British born to be underrepresented. And in underrepresented. And in a sense, charlie, dont you think that this organisation that claims to be about diversity and fairness and equity and equality actually fully doesnt there come a point where people say we are beginning to discriminate against us and clearly these are these requirements in terms of numbers just dont tally, they just dont add up with the population as we know it in great britain, for example. And weve seen how this kind of thinking has out of thinking has played out recently in britain with the governments equality drive governments own equality drive within air force, within the royal air force, where now dozens of white men have successfully sued the government and the over government and the raf over their being illegitimately removed from recruitment programs. So clearly a huge programs. So clearly a huge scandal in the brewing here. Charlie, thank you. Good work. And folks, this is just just the beginning on this. I promise you this. Were going to find lot, lot more as the find out a lot, lot more as the next week or two goes by. And when you about it, when you think about it, actually, people being actually, people are being promoted senior positions promoted to senior positions within big companies, not on the bafis within big companies, not on the basis of ability, but on the bafis basis of ability, but on the basis of ability, but on the basis of representing different groups and ticking boxes. But maybe, perhaps, mike hoots has helped a little bit. Maybe the tide is turning the Credit Rating agency s p have dropped their use of similar woke quotas after they faced a backlash from boardrooms across the usa. But for some companies it was all too late. Silicon valley bank in the usa collapsed despite lustrously, there ceo had previously said they were committed to giving more people with diverse backgrounds and perspectives the opportunity to thrive. Well. Perhaps he should thrive. Well. Perhaps he should have focussed rather more on the shareholders of that company and his job in Financial Market s. As they say, if you go woke, youre probably end up going broke. But im youre probably end up going broke. But im joined now by Angela Knight, former economic secretary to the treasury and somebody whos always fought for the idea of actually i think angela coming from the background you did we believe did we not, in a meritocracy. We did we not, in a meritocracy. We believed in people rising to the top. We couldnt care less, top. We couldnt care less, could we . In those days about what race or class or sex they were . When you hear these were . When you hear these criteria that b corp are applying and that firms like coutts are proud to be part of it, whats your reaction . Well, first of all, b corps is not the only group around and requirements come from a lot of different directions. Nigel but can i just say one thing at the start . Youre dead right. I come from the north of england. I spent 16 years in the engineering industry. I was actually the female actually only the second female graduate ever taken on by air products and chemicals inc, the American Industrial gas company. And the reason that i and many years of my life i was either the first or the only woman or sometimes a combination of seemed to be everything i think that you do need more women, more people regard less of their background coming forward, and that isnt woke. That is because you should never you should never take an issue against somebody simply because they are something they are female or they are from a Different Community or they they dont look like we do or Something Like that. But what, though, like that. But what, though, where weve gone to now in the uk is i think the pendulum may have swung a little bit too far in the other way. Youve given some good examples , but if you some good examples, but if you take plcs in general, some good examples, but if you take plcs in general , they have take plcs in general, they have diversity requirements. They diversity requirements. They need to have diversity requirements, not just at board level but also more at executive level. And were reports them in some in some areas. That is a very good thing. Its a question of balance. Are we tipping the wrong side of the line . And i think in some instances we do. Should we have no requirements to look at diversity . Well, i think that would be wrong as well. So terribly sorry. Ive given you a bit of a bad dancer. I understand the argument that we dont want to discriminate against people because theyve got the wrong accent, for arguments sake. Right. | accent, for arguments sake. Right. I get that. I understand that. But ultimately the aim of these organisations evans is now over represent station. You know, i read out, i read out, you know, a b corps Recruitment Company and theyre aiming huge overrepresent , deliberate overrepresent, deliberate overrepresentation in from certain sectors. Doesnt there certain sectors. Doesnt there come a point when so when the white male says, you know what, this isnt good enough. This isnt good enough. I suspect that on Many Companies have blinked a few times at trying to meet both the requirements that theyre supposed to meet on diversity and at the same time also bring in the best people for the job. Youre right to flag that. The youre right to flag that. The trouble is its very difficult things to say, and you do get judged as a business on how well you are dealing with diversity, what you know , the makeup is of what you know, the makeup is of your workforce. Just as you are your workforce. Just as you are being judged on your environmental commitments. Esg, environmental commitments. Esg, which is the overarching thing, you know, three letters, environment, social and governance. You know, there is governance. You know, there is a really good reason for having paying really good reason for having paying proper attention to all those three things. You made a valid point early and i agree with it. And that is that if you take up too much time and effort, meeting some requirements which are not directly related to your business, then you will not be giving the service to your customers. Is that your or that customers. Is that your or that is the risk that your customers deserve to have . And i think that that, you know, im on a number of boards. We have to Pay Attention to esg requirements. We are marked on these by the governance groups who in turn influence some of our shareholders, those who are , for shareholders, those who are, for example, the pension funds. And so forth, will be influenced by whether we meet certain criteria i so so| so i can see that right. So i can see that right. Well, as a point, but i think its gone a bit too far. Yeah. Yeah and you know, in financial services, the bank of england, the fca, theyre all signed up to it. Angela knight, thank you for joining tonight thank you for joining me tonight on this important debate. On this this important debate. Well, Angela Knight saying there quite tactfully that its gone a bit too far. I think its gone way too far. I think its becoming madness and were living in a Global Competitive world. Down this route world. We go on down this route. Long can it be before we. How long can it be before we have our own Silicon Valley bank style disasters . Talking of style disasters . Talking of disasters, stop the boats. Yes, this has been the big stop the boats week for the british government. Well today it turned into a total carry on up the channel farce. All of that in a couple of minutes radio. Weve been bombarded all week. Yes. Were going to send yes. Were going to send people to the essential island, etcetera. Were going to stop the boats. Its one of rishis the boats. Its one of rishis really big , the boats. Its one of rishis really big, big pledges. Well, border force today , frankly, border force today, frankly, from first light and before turned into border farce. I joke turned into border farce. I joke not mark white do i . Well, certainly it seems to have been pretty chaotic in the channel for a large part of today. Channel for a large part of today. It looks as though border today. It looks as though border force were actually overwhelmed by by what came across and still just within the last few minutes, i can confirm that the 12th boats of the day has now been intercepted and picked up, i think by a Border Force Vessel. Well, that makes a change from this morning, taking it over because, yes, what we had this morning was one Border Force Vessel volunteer out there deaung force vessel volunteer out there dealing with these small boats when they were coming across nigel and that Border Force Vessel broke down. And so it was out of commission. And normally these catamarans , uh, theyll these catamarans, uh, theyll zip about picking up sometimes a couple of boats at a time back into dover and out again. Into dover and out again. Just to stop you for a moment, mark, you say small boats. Have a look at these amazing pictures taken early this morning in the channel. And these new boats are not small. Theyre big. I cant count the number but its 60 to number on there, but its 60 to 70 people. Is the new breed yeah, this is the new breed of boat and have enforced of boat and they have enforced at the middle of the boat as well. The bottom of the boat which was plywood before the vulnerable bit wasnt it. Yeah. Yeah. Which was had a tendency to rip apart apart and sink and we had these two tragedies over the last couple of years in the channel so now theyve reinforced that. What does that mean . It means they dont all just have to sit on the side. They can fill that middle section as well. So youre right , when you talk about 60, 70, even 80 even is. Yeah. What weve had on a couple of occasions is in the channel theyre getting more and more people on and 12 boats we think today nigel so one Border Force Vessel out it breaks down which beggars belief because weve had rough weather and all seafaring folk in rough weather make sure their boats tickety boo. And so we have we have the ramsgate lifeboat out, we have the dover lifeboat out, we have the dover lifeboat out, we have the dungeness lifeboat out. We have the littlestone inflatable out, volunteers being asked out, the volunteers being asked effectively to cover the border force. Yes. And the complicated factor was while those lifeboats were engaged in intercepting the boats and picking up people , boats and picking up people, acting as that sort of glorified taxi service, which i know upset so many people. They had a genuine emergency with people in the migrants in the water. Quite a number dumas and those lifeboats had to rush to deal with that as well. So it just again indicates states how very serious the situation is and how dangerous these crossings are. And then the ultimate fast. Yes, the ultimate fast. Boris yes, the ultimate fast. Boris johnson turns up at lydd airport and were going back to last year , the big initiative. And year, the big initiative. And hes photographed standing next to a giant, great big drone. Look at it. Great big blooming thing. The size of an aeroplane. And boy , does it make a noise as and boy, does it make a noise as it goes up and down the channel. And what happened to the drone today, mark . A drone. It may well well, a drone. It may well have been that drone. Its certainly i think was a sizeable drone crashed into the drink. It had some kind of technical malfunction. It did burst into the channel. Now sources have told me that it has been recovered, but we dont know if it will be workable. Again if it hit the sea at a rate of knots may well be buckled and bent and inundated with seawater anyway. Inundated with seawater anyway. Unbelievable. And absolutely farcical. Day 12 boats. So were looking at 600 and something may we may be a record day. The record was on the 18th of july, a 574 people crossed in a single day. So 12 boats, we think about 600, depending on how many were on each of the boats. So we could have had boats. So we could have had a record day on what is a seminal day in terms of this milestone that has been passed. 100,000 people have now crossed the English Channel, and that focuses the mind and not just focuses the mind, but it completely alters what was supposed to be a week in which the government were telling us about all the Amazing Things theyre doing to deal with the small boat crisis. Now people are understandably fixated on the fact that 100,000 people have come across in just five short years and far from stopping the boats so far , the stopping the boats so far, the only thing thats been stopping them is we know is the weather and the channel mark white absolutely. And a couple of points to make, folks. Number one, it was gb news that led with the story that wed crossed the 100,000 number and it was gb news for hours. That led the story that it was led with the story that it was the drone that had crashed into the drone that had crashed into the channel. The other the English Channel. The other broadcasters, miles and miles behind. In broadcasters, miles and miles behind. In terms of being on top of this story, you want to find out whats going on in the channel. Are place to channel. We are the place to come and im im going to come to. And im im going to say this 2020. In the spring, say this in 2020. In the spring, i started to look at this issue. I started to look at this issue. I into channel and i went out into the channel and i went out into the channel and i filmed and i understood that basically nobody who came illegally was being deported. And i said there on you might as well put a sign on the white cliffs of dover saying everyone welcome. I said, this has become a issue. Sadly, ive been a big issue. Sadly, ive been proved right now we are a nation of dog lovers, but im not sure all of our owners are very good. Im not sure all of the breeds are entirely safe, and im not sure that lockdown has done any of this much good and incredible. Im really surprised by this. 9000 odd people in 2022 were treated in hospital for dog bites and dog attacks. Its bites and dog attacks. Its a growing problem. In a moment, well try and find out what can be youre listening to gb news radio. Radio. Well, im joined tonight in the studio live. Ive got pippa with me. Vics with me. But far more importantly, ive got the cocker spaniel, olive with me, and theyre from the best Behaviour School for dogs. And Behaviour School for dogs. And this is a very real subject. 9000 people treat covid for bites and attack. And that is exactly double the number from 1998. And we were chatting before. Did you say 50 increase on attacks on postmen, for example . Yeah, yeah, very high. Yeah, yeah, very high. So whats going on here . I mean, during lockdown, it seemed. And i did it, you know , buying. And i did it, you know, buying a dog. No, no, no. I mean, youre right. But during lockdown, people bought dogs. We know there were the puppy farms. There were puppies being produced on a huge scale. We produced on a huge scale. We know that a lot of people who bought dogs had never owned them before. Also quite difficult to before. Also quite difficult to socialise dogs , wasnt it . Socialise dogs, wasnt it . Absolutely. Absolutely. You can go into his houses, you couldnt you had a next time that you could be out for a walk. But actually i think first and foremost, as and foremost, we as behaviourists believe behaviourists certainly believe that. People dont that. I just think people dont really band dog really understand band dog behaviour. Sadly only a behaviour. And very sadly only a few sort of 1 in 10 people few is sort of 1 in 10 people actually seek a training class or so youre not or a behaviourist. So youre not going to understand what your dogs means, are you , dogs behaviour means, are you, as along . And yeah , its as you go along . And yeah, its lovely. People 1 10 who lovely. People do 1 in 10 who buy dog, 1 in 10 seek buy a dog, 1 in 10 seek professional advice, sense of training understanding thing. Training or understanding thing. Absolutely. So youre suggesting in a sense that this problem is more a problem of the owners than the dogs . For sure. For sure. And i suppose as well, the cost of living crisis, people arent always able to afford the help of maybe an extra of a trainer or a behaviourist. Help of maybe an extra of a trainer or a behaviourist. But trainer or a behaviourist. But even just appropriately, one puppy even just appropriately, one puppy classes would be good. And there relatively inexpensive. I think if youre paying out to get a puppy think if youre paying out to get a puppy that should be included in the price. Dog foods cheap, is it . Dog foods not cheap, is it . Dog foods not cheap, is it . So absolutely. And were so absolutely. And we were saying werent we, that saying before, werent we, that so it as well comes down so much of it as well comes down to exercise , mental to food, exercise, mental stimulation. Youre giving stimulation. If youre giving your everything that your dog everything that it needs happy healthy needs for a happy and healthy life, here for the life, olives in here for the truth, the very, good truth, the very, very good treats absolutely. Then your treats. Absolutely. Then your dog will be well balanced. But if youre feeding, if you cant afford to buy a good dog food, as you say, they are expensive, then maybe theyre not getting then maybe theyre not getting the right food. Then if the right food. And then if theyre getting the theyre not getting the appropriate exercise appropriate amount of exercise for breed, for their age and breed, then all these play a major all these things play a major part the dogs well, yeah, part in the dogs well, yeah, theyre showing, but theres also issue, isnt there . Also a big issue, isnt there . And seen of this and weve seen some of this in newspapers. 1 or of the in the newspapers. 1 or 2 of the tabloids running this story repeatedly. And weve had these arguments various arguments before about various breeds currently , it is breeds of dogs currently, it is the american bully dog that were talking about an and nine people have been killed , killed people have been killed, killed by this , not just wounded. I by this, not just wounded. I mean, goodness knows how many have been to hospital. Nine people have been killed by this breed of dog in the last two years. So what what do we do . Years. So what what do we do . It is devastating , without it is devastating, without doubt. And i think because these big dogs can theyre powerhouses and they can cause so much damage. And when you hear of whats happened, it is terrifying in our experience as behaviourists all of this. Well, the majority of behaviour, 90 of our work with aggression is nervous aggression. And that can be just as prevalent, if not more so in the smaller dogs. Maybe the spaniels or the collies or the little nippers. And people dont always get the behaviour countered because they are dog. So our are a smaller dog. So in our experience we very rarely deal with Something Like an excel bully. Far more treating bully. We are far more treating breeds like the spaniels or the cockapoos , the anxious, the cockapoos, the anxious, the anxious nature dogs rather than the breeds. Should we be allowing breeds like the american bully in this country . Well, its a hard country . Well, its a hard i mean, i think the devastation that these breeds can deliver with a with a bite is and their guard dogs, you know is its a hard question to answer. No, i didnt i didnt pretend it was easy. But you know but, you know, it is serious. You know, it is serious. I mean, there wouldnt be a breed that if we called in to deal with. Wed be looking forward to our work that day. Put it that way, you know, if it was a cocker spaniel, the same nervous aggression, we would be rather a cocker rather dealing with a cocker spaniel very obvious reasons. For obvious safety reasons. So telling me, so from what youre telling me, there is really almost no prospect, right now of this problem getting any better because weve got a huge number of dogs , much bigger number of of dogs, much bigger number of dogsin of dogs, much bigger number of dogs in circulation than there were before. Lockdown when only 10 of people have got any basic training or any idea. Many of the buyers have never had a dog in their lives and they mean the best, but they dont understand what theyre doing. So there was no end to this problem, is there . Are two there . Well, there are two things were right. Things that were doing right. Say it. So one so dare i say it. So one thing weve got full accreditation to the cfa, which is one of the elite organisations in the uk. So actually you can get the cfa canine and feline behaviour association. Sorry and if you are a member of this association, you can if you have association, you can if you have a behaviour consultation from one of us, a member of the association, if you have dog insurance you can get the money back on your pet insurance. So actually youre not having that dichotomy of my dogs doing this, but i cant afford it because you can actually get the money your dog is money back if your dog is insured. Thats one thing, insured. So thats one thing, though that really want to though, that we really want to be to highlight. Be able to highlight. Then also but also were and then also but also were weve got our campaign of weve got our our campaign of prevention dog bites really , prevention of dog bites really, isnt it, which weve been launching schools launching in schools going around within kent , around to schools within kent, taking such as olive and taking dogs such as olive and teaching children at a very teaching the children at a very early age to how interact with a dog, how to behave around a dog, how to read a dogs body language showing slides of does this like enjoying this dog look like its enjoying it, cuddle it it, enjoying this cuddle it should you approach this dog, all sort of thing. So all that sort of thing. So hopefully really educating people message people and getting the message out they wed love out there of how they wed love to able to roll this out to to be able to roll this out to our kids and also kids clubs, brownies, cub and if brownies, cub scouts and also if other behaviours do it in other areas. Think its education, so i think its education, isnt okay, no fair is. Isnt it . Okay, no fair is. Thank you joining me and thank you forjoining me and yeah is it is a growing yeah it is it is a growing problem. So folks watching this, listening this, if youve got listening to this, if youve got a dog during lockdown and you know your heart of hearts, know in your heart of hearts, you dont really know what youre doing, go to a dog behaviourist get training. Behaviourist get some training. Otherwise you might regret it. Otherwise you might regret it. Now, some people must be regretting having voted for joe biden. I would have thought at biden. I would have thought at the last president ial election here he was once again, this time in the great state of utah. Have a listen to this. The grand canyon , one of the the grand canyon, one of the earths nine wonders, wonders of the world, literally. Think of the world, literally. Think of that. The world, literally. Think of that. You know, its amazing. That. You know, its amazing. It just gets worse. It just gets worse. Its one of the nine gets worse. Its one of the nine wonders of the world. And even joe biden doesnt know that its seven. And another rather more serious one. So what the farage moment, chris bryant or should i say, sir chris bryant and you know , very important member of know, very important member of parliament and there he is, chairman of the privileged committee, and hes publishing a book about whats going on in parliament. He thinks this parliament, in terms of behaviour, could be one of the worst ever. Not just because of mps behaviour and the discipline they receive or the suspensions they receive or the suspensions they receive or the suspensions they receive or the forced resignations. But because of the lies they tell and here was lies they tell and here he was on Good Morning Britain this morning , setting himself up as morning, setting himself up as the moral arbiter for all that should happen in parliament and that youve got youve normalised lying to parliament if you have a Prime Minister and ministers ripping repeatedly misleading the house of commons and refusing to correct the record. Of course, you know, people, weve all done it. Weve made weve all done it. Weve made weve said million instead of billion or weve or weve managed to get a statistic wrong for whatever youve been advised wrongly, does that be all of that . Be yeah, but, but then you correct the record. Thats the rule. You correct the record so you get it wrong. You get it wrong. You correct the record. Yeah that works. However, this was chris brown in the house of commons last year. I dont understand why arron banks, frankly, isnt on the list either. Even Isabel Oakeshott now thinks that he is an agent of influence for the russian state. And im simply pointing out that nigel farage received from russia today. Received from russia today. £548,000, £573 in 2018 alone from the russian state. From the russian state. I didnt receive a single pennyin i didnt receive a single penny in 2018 from russia today or the russian state. It is wrong. Frankly, its an outright wrong. Frankly, its an outright lie. Youve said it, sir. Chris lie. Youve said it, sir. Chris using parliamentary privilege, if youre going to go out and flog this book about standards in public life and go on major tv programmes in this country like Good Morning Britain and say that anyone that makes a mistake and gets it wrong should correct it, youd better correct it. Pretty soon. Or do me a favour, chris. Say it outside the house of commons. I wouldnt mind the money to buy a new car in a moment. Its talking pints. Im going to be joined by a very controversial but a very colourful character. Controversial but a very colourful character. Hes just married in rwanda. Hes got married in rwanda. Hes got a lot of stories to tell. Simon danychuk joins me in a moment for talking pints its thursday nights, talking pints. Im joined by former labour member of parliament, Simon Danczuk. Simon, welcome. Good to see you to the program. Now. There you to the program. Now. There you are, a young lad, a young lancastrian. Yeah, with lancastrian. Yeah, with political ambitions from an early age, very early from about 14. Yeah. I wanted to be a parliamentarian in actual fact. Yeah. Brought up in a very working class family. One parent family. My mother brought me and my older brother up , but family. My mother brought me and my older brother up, but i family. My mother brought me and my older brother up , but i got family. My mother brought me and my older brother up, but i got a taste for politics very early on. For some reason. And yet academically you didnt exactly shine , did you . Didnt exactly shine, did you . No, not initially, no. I left no, not initially, no. I left school at 16. No qualifications. Owens worked in a factory making gas fires in a factory in padiham, near burnley. Theres padiham, near burnley. Theres about a thousand people work there. Then there arent factories or jobs like that in the country anymore. Are the manufacturing . No but thats what i did. It was a closed shop. You had to the trade shop. You had to join the trade union. But what i did do is go to at night and i got to college at night and i got the qualifications should have the qualifications i should have got at. Got when i were at. Why did fail at school . Well, i think really, i wasnt paying attention. My home life was pretty desperate. If im honest about it. Very poor. So i wasnt very focussed and i didnt perform, you know, my mother didnt really instil in me the importance of education. I dont support. But it worked because you worked your way up and you got elected. You know , on, on, on, elected. You know, on, on, on, on the local council. Russell Blackburn Blackburn yeah. Blackburn yeah. Blackburn yeah. 27 you did your bit, you know, and, and, but your attempt to get into parliament and of course roger dale had had that liberal tradition. Cyril smith will come back to him. Yeah. Liz lynne of course , had been lynne of course, had been a liberal member of parliament for rochdale and it was a liberal held seat in 2010. At and you had a visit and is true, you had a visit from a chap who was the Prime Minister there must have felt quite a big deal. The Prime Minister coming to help simon dan to get elected, but it all went a bit wrong, didnt it . Thats right. Id been selected the parliament selected as the Parliament Candidate in rochdale two candidate in rochdale in two thousand so was thousand and seven, so i was knocking on for three knocking on doors for three years. We get to weeks years. As we get to six weeks before general election in before the general election in 2010, that a phone call 2010, call that a phone call saying that gordon brown were going to visit. Help me get elected, beat the liberal mp thats sitting there. He turns thats sitting there. He turns up, it leaves his microphone on when he gets in the car , who put when he gets in the car, who put me with that bigoted woman . Gillian duffy . Gillian duffy and it just became the story. Absolutely. It was the front absolutely. It was the front page of every national newspaper, the row ran on and on and on. So you kind of got elected to Parliament Despite gordon brown yeah , absolutely. Gordon brown yeah, absolutely. And youll appreciate this story. I mean, when i found out about it that later that day i had given up smoking for the duration of the campaign, i drove to the local co op, but 20 marlboro light. I sat there on marlboro light. I sat there on my own in the car thinking, whats gone wrong . Ive wasted three years of my life company , three years of my life company, but we managed to win it by just just over 800 votes. It was a whisker, wasnt it . It was a whisker, wasnt it . Yeah. Out of 76,000. Yeah. Yeah. Out of 76,000. Yeah. You get into parliament, and you get into parliament, simon, involved in simon, and you get involved in campaigns it starts in a way campaigns and it starts in a way with rochdale because as you write a book about the late cyril smith, who was a really quite monstrous man, wasnt it . Yes. Yeah, thats right. So i arrive into parliament 2010, a couple of years in the rochdale grooming scandal. Yes pakistani, predominantly pakistani men abusing White Working Class girls , no doubt about that. But girls, no doubt about that. But then im at a speech where i drew a parallel because id learnt during my time from burnley, not from rochdale, but dunng burnley, not from rochdale, but during my time in rochdale , that during my time in rochdale, that id learned that cyril smith was an abuser. So it was commonly talked about. I hadnt known until i arrived in the town itself and i made a speech where i compared the two. So they got away with it because they were abusing white, poor, white, working girls. And it was working class girls. And it was in the for whatever reason , the in the for whatever reason, the Police Authorities police and the authorities ignored the abuse that was going on. Got away it because on. He got away with it because he abusing poor white he was abusing poor White Working Class boys , and the working class boys, and the authorities ignored that as well. So there were parallels between the two. And then, as you in 2014, i published you say, in 2014, i published smile for camera, the double smile for the camera, the double life cyril smith, life of cyril smith, which exposed that hed exposed everything that hed donein exposed everything that hed done in terms of abuse in his politics and everything else, and suddenly youre there as a backbench member of parliament in first term, you in your first term, but you suddenly become a very high profile figure a result of that. And theres a bigger debate goes on about historic sexual allegations senior allegations against very senior members of the british establishment. But the point is. Simon, in the end, many of them proved to be untrue. Absolutely. Yeah. I proved to be untrue. Absolutely. Yeah. I mean, there was the carl beech test, simone, and there were, you know, old men whose last years of their life were made getting made miserable, getting the balance is balance of this stuff is important, isnt it . Absolutely right now, yeah, absolutely right now, and this is where i differ because tom watson took a very different view beech or different view. Carl beech or nick, as he was known to the media, had actually contacted my office to have a conversation about about the allegations he wanted to make. And my colleague, researcher matt baken colleague, researcher matt baker, had a phone conversation with him and came back to me and matt baker says, i dont believe a word the guy is saying. Oh, really . Yeah absolutely. And you left that alone . And you left that alone . We left it well, alone. Thats a known fact. We left it. Thats a known fact. We left it. Well, why took it up as an well, why tom took it up as an issue . I do know. But my issue . I do not know. But my latest book, scandal at Dolphin Square which quite humorous square, which is quite humorous , deals all these , it deals with all these different scandals. James Barbara Windsor having an affair there. Mosley, leader of there. Oswald mosley, leader of there. Oswald mosley, leader of the fascists, lived there during the fascists, lived there during the so theres about 100 the 30s, so theres about 100 scandals but we scandals in there. But we do deal with beech issue as deal with carl beech issue as well. And we that he was well. And we say that he was completely complete fantasy and rightly put in prison. Simon you showed some good you showed showed good you showed you showed good judgement but after judgement over that. But after 2015, to show some 2015, you started to show some quite bad personal judgement. I mean, lets be frank, you were the tabloid dream. Mean , it the tabloid dream. I mean, it was danchuk week after blooming week. Dan shook with this woman. Dan shook with that woman. Dan dan shook with that woman. Dan shook did this, did that. Some of it. Lets be frank. Not of it. Lets be frank. Not terribly discreet. No, no , absolutely. And you no, no, absolutely. And you know as well as i do what the tabloid newspaper beat their. Absolutely. Well, can be absolutely. Well, they can be like. And got the full force like. And i got the full force of that. Id gone through of that. Id gone through a divorce with my second wife that had been difficult. Id suffered from mental exhaustion, depressed ian. In fact, as a consequence of dealing with some of the issues that i was dealing with in terms of child historic child abuse and things like that, i struggled to deal with. That wasnt really my being an mp, being an mp, get people down. I think it can. Do youre aware from the family, my youngest child was born six weeks before the general election , so id hardly ever election, so id hardly ever seen him. If you were based out in the north of england and youre back at the weekend. But youre back at the weekend. But you know what its like campaigning. The campaigning. Youre out all the time. Home life very time. Makes home life very difficult, can difficult, so it can be depressing literally depressing. Literally depressing. Literally depressing. Yeah and anyway, as i say, you were never endingly in the tabloids and it made. Well, lets be frank. Very good. Copy for them. But you sort of survived it all. But that was it 2017, the labour party didnt really want you any more, did they . Yeah. No, thats right. And the real truth around that. Well, id been a critic because my politics didnt. Jeremy corbyn did, you know. Jeremy corbyn did, you know. Certainly didnt. No, thats the point. My point, im traditional, right wing labour, tough on illegal immigration , tough on illegal immigration, tough on illegal immigration, tough on illegal immigration, tough on benefit cheats and id never got that when i got when i arrived in parliament in 2010, we ended up with ed miliband as leader, soft left, and then he when he loses in 2015, which i predicted, and id been a critic of his, id been a supporter of his brother david, who would have made a much better leader. Have made a much better leader. Ed loses and then corbyn becomes leader. So i was always opposed to this north london labour approach, which weve still got under keir starmer. Not as radical crazy as corbyn, but nevertheless not my kind of labour politics. So that was it. We parted ways. Yeah. And youve been ever since then doing media. Goodness knows what. A recent quite what. But. But a recent quite extraordinary event. I mean , extraordinary event. I mean, only Simon Danczuk could do this. Really so you finish up marrying a rwandan beauty consultant . Claudine whats that all about . Shes. Shes beautiful on the inside and outside. She really, in my view, you know, in my humble view, you know, in my humble view, i was over there on great pictures. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. No, yeah, we just had the wedding quite literally not a week ago or something, you know. But yeah, i met her. I was over there on business in march 2022. We met, kept in touch. I went over again, i think in june, may, june 20, 22 for chogm common commonwealth heads of government meeting. Spent a government meeting. Spent a couple of weeks there and the relationship just blossomed and so , so thats why were a week so, so thats why were a week into the marriage. Many congratulations. But many congratulations. But theres an issue with our visa around us. Yeah, absolutely. And so we appued yeah, absolutely. And so we applied for a visitor visa last september , which was refused and september, which was refused and they refused. They they didnt believe she would go back to the country. She thought she would stay here illegal. They didnt take into account our relationship. We provided loads of evidence about the relation that we were in and the dismissed it. And on that, on a visitor visa, you cant appeal it. So you pay your money, takes your chance. But what really your chance. But what really frustrates me about this and i wrote an article at the time, actually its easier to come into britain illegally. Well, into britain illegally. Well, today 600 have today. Absolutely its easier to come into britain illegally than it is legally. Illegally than it is legally. And for love. Thats the reality of the country that we live in. You will sort this out, though, wont you . Oh, absolutely. Yeah. And shell be joining us very soon. I have no doubt about us very soon. I have no doubt abowell, i to say, simon, well, i have to say, simon, fascinating. Short career in elected politics, but a fascinating yeah. As i say fascinating one. Yeah. As i say , many backbenchers become , not many backbenchers become household you household names, but you absolutely did that in lots and lots of ways. And want wish lots of ways. And i want to wish you very successful marriage. You a very successful marriage. Cheers and thank you for joining me on talking pints. Well, me on talking pints. Well, thats pretty much it from me this evening. But stick with gb news because of course, we have the mark steyn coming up next live from his Country House down in somerset, gods own county, as he keeps on calling it. There he is, giggling away. Jacob, what have you got tonight . Well, what have you got tonight . Well, were going to be talking about the Magistrates Association in setting out its style guide and enforcing language on us language in certain important language in certain important language is desperately political , language is desperately political, and the Magistrates Association ought to be apolitical. So thats going to be one of the major topics. And then were to going talk about the echr and whether the time has come to pull the plug on an overseas version rights. Version of human rights. Jacob, in your opinion , and jacob, in your opinion, has that time come . Has that time come . I think we need an election to do it. I think you need a clear mandate and i dont think theres a majority in the current house of commons. But in my own mind, the system weve got at the moment just doesnt work. Absolutely in lately. Couldnt agree more. There couldnt agree more. But there we parliaments always we are. Parliaments always out of one of the of touch now, after one of the busiest of life busiest months work of my life with the banking stuff, with the whole banking stuff, i am right now to have am off right now to have a weekend away with the family. I cant wait. I want to know whats the weather going to be . Temperatures rising. The temperatures rising. Boxt solar proud sponsors of weather on gbn news. Hello there. Welcome to your latest broadcast for gb news. Im greg dewhurst. Were going to see increased risk of showers as we move towards the weekend, but there will be some sunny spells turning a little spells just turning a little cooler, too. We look at the bigger picture. Area low bigger picture. This area of low pressure moves in another area of low pressure the weekend of low pressure for the weekend , risk of showers, bringing the risk of showers, though as windy recent though not as windy as recent weekends for this evening. Its been fine into the day for many, but we have this area of rain but we do have this area of rain pushing north and eastwards. It could heavier for a time could be heavier for a time across as it across Northern Ireland as it crosses scotland to crosses into scotland to elsewhere a elsewhere generally quite a cloudy , warm, night to cloudy, warm, muggy night to come. A lot of cloud around, some drizzle over hills. Some drizzle over the hills. Temperatures in double temperatures remaining in double figures, 17, 18 degrees is a low for some of us. A bit of a cloudy start to friday. Still some rain across scotland. Heavy at times, pushing away north eastwards then slowly eastwards and then slowly through starts through the morning, it starts to up. Could see to brighten up. We could see this of cloud push into this area of cloud push into southeast england, to southeast england, though, to give showery for the give some showery rain for the afternoon in elsewhere bright afternoon, and afternoon, sunny spells and scattered showers turning breezy around coast , scattered showers turning breezy around coast, making it around western coast, making it feel a little cooler here. Still highs reaching 27 degrees towards east anglia. And then saturday this low approaches us gives spells of rain across the north and the west of the uk as the winds pick up. Best of the dnen the winds pick up. Best of the drier, brighter weather holding on towards the southeast. But even well see some even here, well see some showers in later on in showers moving in later on in the day and quite blustery temperature is a little cooler, too, continues into too, and that continues into sunday and monday with further showers and temperatures a little average. Little below average. The temperatures rising , boxt the temperatures rising, boxt solar proud sponsors of weather on. Gb news. Hello. Good evening. Its me, hello. Good evening. Its me, Jacob Rees Mogg on state of the nation. Tonight osullivans law is at it again. Nation. Tonight osullivans law is at it again. And all is at it again. And all organisations that are not explicitly right wing will over time become left wing this time and not for the first time. It involves our courts, specifically the Magistrates Association is suing a style guide for inclusive language. Make no mistake , anyone who make no mistake, anyone who wants to change language is political and possibly even authoritarian. If we have learnt anything from the de banking scandal, it is that there is nothing either diverse or inclusive about diversity and inclusion. Senior government inclusion. Senior government figures, including an unnamed cabinet minister, have reportedly warned the Prime Minister that the conservatives must campaign to leave the European Court of human rights in the next election if the Court Continues to block deportation flights to rwanda. Deportation flights to rwanda. Could we be looking at a brexit 2. 0 in 2024 . But as we showed over prisoner voting rights, parliament is always and remains in the meantime free to override the echr rulings. Now you may be you probably are very familiar with dukes, marquesses, viscounts and barons , but we viscounts and barons, but we will be joined by somersets favourite baronet system was introduced by james, the first as a means of raising money and the legacy of the practise continues to grace gods own county through sir benjamin slade, the seventh baronet who we will be hearing from shortly. Plus the state of the nation from somersets denouement will sitwell will be teaching me to how perform the seemingly Impossible Task of cooking the Great British culinary phenomenon of kippers smoked scottish herring, but only after we exclusively reveal the story behind it, involving a certain form of Prime Minister. Coming to my london home after he kippered the eu in a speech of the nation starts now