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Tv in your car, on Digital Radio and on your Smart Speaker by saying play gb news now its time for headliners. Time for headliners. Hello and welcome to headliners. Your first look at thursday, his newspapers. Im thursday, his newspapers. Im andrew doyle and tonight im joined by father of five josh howie and bringer of truth, nick dixon. He may he made me say dixon. He may he made me say that the consolation prize, that is. How are you both. 7 ones family. Youve got oh, youve got a family. You speak the truth. You dont want children. You dont want children. Speak truth. You dont i speak the truth. You dont want sprogs. Diminishes with each child. T e this e. I found this cap in the office. It looks. I it looks gangster. Think gangster. m gangster. Do you think i can. 7 do you think i can keep it. 7 im saying its kind of odd. Think i can keep it. 7 newsaying its kind of odd. Think i can keep it. 7 news aukuss kind of odd. Think i can keep it. 7 news aukus cap1d of odd. 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Have a thursdays front a look at thursdays front covers mail is running covers the daily mail is running with we finally turned with have we finally turned corner on mortgage misery . Certainly hope so. The guardian has living crisis forces has cost of living crisis forces student covid generation to live at home. The daily express is running with threat to quit rights treaty. If rwanda blocked again. The mirror has itv hit by more bullying claims and the eye is running, with new talks on tented camp for migrants in essex amid tory splits on crackdown. The metro is leading with bbc comic is held for historic offences and those were your front pages. So were going your front pages. So were going to kick off with thursdays daily mail. Josh, what are they running with . Rise of the 30 something women who have never had a boyfriend and big thats the boyfriend and the big thats the big story. No, thats just the strap at the top about whats in female magazines. Thats really interesting , though, dont interesting, though, dont you think . Interesting, though, dont you thinkthink that the bit i think is that the bit you read . Female read . The female stuff . To female. I go straight to female. Thats thats thats like. Thats like, thats my thats my dog. Wake up. These do we find out within. Just w. Well, just to learn. They educate like, yeah, educate me and im like, yeah, what these 30 year what is wrong with these 30 year old women . Theyve got two pictures women here. Pictures of women here. I believe theyre women. And theyre like, are they . Why are theyre like, are they . Why are they trying to say theyre theyre not attractive to theyre not attractive enough to get a boyfriend . What do you think . T think . The feminine whats the feminine equivalent femme whats the feminine equivaent femme whats the feminine equivaent sell. Femme whats the feminine equivaent sell. So emme whats the feminine equivaent sell. So itsne whats the feminine equivaent sell. So its just sell . A femme sell. So its just about femme sells . Yeah, of course. Youd know it was. Course. Youd know it was. And how fast . I said it was very quick, very suspiciously quick. What about this headline . Have we finally turned a corner on mortgage misery . You to talk are you sure you want to talk about this . Im pretty sure im done 30 done with the rise of 30 something women without boyfriends. Then. Boyfriends. All right, then. Well, do get well, when they do get a boyfriend, theyll be able well, when they do get a bo getend, theyll be able well, when they do get a bo getenimortgage. Heyll be able well, when they do get a bo getenimortgage. Hey|nice able to get a mortgage. But nice segway. Have we finally turned segway. Have we finally turned in the building . Yeah. Segway. Have we finally turned in the building . Yeah. Thank in the building . Yeah. Thank you. Have we finally. In the building . Yeah. Thank you. Have we finally. We turned you. Have we finally. We turned a corner on mortgage misery. So a corner on mortgage misery. So obviously, weve had sort of record Interest Rates for. For mortgages. Yes what record compared to the last ten years or so. And but it looks like or so. And but it looks like maybe they peaked and theyre hoping now that like it seems that halifax, who are the largest lenders in the country, they blinked first and theyve dropped it by a quarter by 0. 7, one percentage points. And hopefully thats going to lead to two more banks. Yeah, were looking at a mortgage price which could mortgage price war, which could be thing for first time be a good thing for first time home. Buyers. Home. Home buyers. That be nice. Its that would be nice. Its making think i should making me think i should wait. Youre im trying to buy. Youre trying a mortgage now, right . Yeah. Yeah. And dont know if it can be done. And im also thinking how everyone prices are everyone says house prices are going normally going down. Yeah. Normally when everyone that everyone says something, that means how means theyre wrong. Thats how ive life. But ive lived my life. But. But everyones got happen. But when Interest Rates but when these Interest Rates kick hasnt felt kick in, the market hasnt felt it it hasnt quite it yet because it hasnt quite happened it yet because it hasnt quite haplts ed about timing, its all about timing, you know, happen. Know, whats going to happen. Youre a youre going to get yourself a house mortgage house and a mortgage and suddenly plummet suddenly the prices will plummet the course. The day after, of course. Course will. Know of course they will. You know what . More of what . You should sell more of these and then we can sell these caps and then we can sell them. The money. I think youre obsessed with these caps. Josh theyre not as theyre you theyre not as good as you think theyre not as good as you think they you. There they are. They suit you. There you go. Thats very jaunty. Very jaunty. Can have a look jaunty. Okay. Can we have a look at cover of the at the front cover of the guardian . Are they at the front cover of the guardia|with are they at the front cover of the guardia|with on are they at the front cover of the guardia|with on thursday . 1ey leading with on thursday . Theyve living leading with on thursday . Theyforces, living leading with on thursday . Theyforces, student ving leading with on thursday . Theyforces, student covid crisis forces, student covid generation home. Crisis forces, student covid gerisation home. Crisis forces, student covid gerisation what home. Crisis forces, student covid ger isation what theyre me. Crisis forces, student covid gerisation what theyre called now . Officially covid generation. Officially covid generation. Isnt it . A bit of a cop out, isnt it . Because call it. Because you could call it. I would them the lockdown would call them the lockdown generation, know, generation, really. You know, what Louis Schaefer them . T well, he called them non existent generation, centralised generation. Didnt need to happen. But it didnt need to happen. So think blame so i dont think we can blame covid, but okay, god, he wants to and there are to blame covid. And there are a number arent number of other factors, arent there, honest. There, really . Lets be honest. So basically in so its basically its 1 in 3 students starting university this live at this year may opt to live at home. Wow. Great news for their parents. As many as 34 of parents. And as many as 34 of 18 School Leavers could 18 year old School Leavers could stay its stay at home. So yeah, its not great, but its just part of a wider trend, isnt it . Its depressing, though, isnt it, as well . Because i mean, time mean, university is the time when go away. When youre meant to go away. When university, when i went to university, i deliberately chose the university from university as far away from possible lived, and university as far away from possofe lived, and university as far away from possof the lived, and university as far away from possof the experience lived, and university as far away from possof the experience ised, and university as far away from possof the experience is surelyd part of the experience is surely you dont want to live home you dont want to live at home and and lectures and then go in and take lectures and then go in and take lectures and be sure you do and then be sure you do something than is. Something better than you is. University the i went to a university in the same but like the other same city, but like the other side city, i could side of the city, so i could still go at weekends and still go home at weekends and get stuff. Still go home at weekends and get oh, stuff. Still go home at weekends and get oh, get jff. Still go home at weekends and get oh, get your laundry done oh, and get your laundry done and you did. And whatever. And i bet you did. It sounds like a very big city. Yeah. Yeah. Cleaner yeah. Yeah. If our cleaner was live in halls was in and also do live in halls of residence and have that but halls is so halls of residence now is so expensive. Yeah they charge you know its all private firms now and rake it. And they just rake it. I mean is it just that the Lockdown Young people lockdown meant that young people are accustomed are now theyre so accustomed to just at are now theyre so accustomed to just that at are now theyre so accustomed to just that they at are now theyre so accustomed to just that they dont at are now theyre so accustomed to just that they dont really home, that they dont really they anywhere. They dont want to go anywhere. Want dont think they dont want i dont think it a cultural thing. I think it is a cultural thing. I think its purely financial its just purely a financial thing. Before. Now thing. It was 20 before. Now its university. Is its up to 30 for university. Is getting more expensive. Getting more and more expensive. Theyre pay getting more and more expensive. Theyfor pay getting more and more expensive. Theyfor a pay getting more and more expensive. Theyfor a longer pay getting more and more expensive. Theyfor a longer part pay getting more and more expensive. Theyfor a longer part their life. Yeah, and of course, when i was at university, got got was at university, i got i got a full to get grants was at university, i got i got a full in. To get grants back in. The solution, though, that presents itself, dont go to university. Life university. So you see life finds a way. University fees have collapsed have also completely collapsed in a pointless over in value at a pointless over price. Why even in value at a pointless over pri� and why even in value at a pointless over pri� and theyre why even in value at a pointless over pri� and theyre oversubscribed . Go and theyre oversubscribed . Of people because lots of people go there when they dont really need not really need to. And its not really appropriate. Theres apprenticeships appropriate. Theres apprentall;hips of other things. My woodwork degree has held me it indeed. Me in good stead. It has indeed. Mean, you fix that mug ed, i mean, you fix that mug tree earlier, you that cap tree earlier, you made that cap and cap. Were going and he made the cap. Were going to the front cover of to move on to the front cover of the josh, what is the express. Es josh, what is the express. Es josh, what is the with on thursday . About immigration. Sorry about immigration. Surprise. Looks hey surprise. Looks like it. Hey go, go to quit rights go express threat to quit rights treaty if rwanda blocked again. So this is the immigration minister. Yes Robert Jenrick and hes basically saying, yeah , hes basically saying, yeah, were going to leave the European Convention of human rights. Its got nothing to do with the way. Yes, it with the eu, by the way. Yes, it predates yeah, predates predates the yeah, it predates the that the eu. Its something that actually britain big hand actually britain had a big hand in creating. It helps in creating. Yeah, it helps all of all of our human rights. Of us. All of our human rights. Hes come out and said that now if you get end of the if you get to the end of the article theyre basically going to number is to go actually number 10 is distanced themselves from this. But the desperation but this is the desperation of the government. But this is the desperation of the but government. But this is the desperation of the but is overnment. But this is the desperation of the but is it,3rnment. But this is the desperation of the but is it, josh, nt. But this is the desperation of the but is it, josh, because but is it, josh, because i mean, not the case that mean, is it not the case that since the echr prevented the flight to rwanda at the 11th houn flight to rwanda at the 11th hour, that the government is thinking hes actually rethinking this thinking, rethinking this and thinking, well, have well, they shouldnt really have that kind of say over our judicial well, what is judicial system . Well, what is the of it . The point of it . Is , is that we will be able is, is that we will be able to its actually our to do it. Its actually our Supreme Court who has stopped them they that them because they said that rwanda country rwanda is not a safe country once through or once its put through or acknowledged country acknowledged as a safe country or find country, or they find a safe country, then technically this can go ahead, i would argue, and this is the other papers have is what the other papers have argued, is that this is more of argued, is that this is more of a because a political decision because this is a red line. This is this this is a red line. This is something that labour party this this is a red line. This is so not hing that labour party this this is a red line. This is so not going 1at labour party this this is a red line. This is so not going to labour party this this is a red line. This is so not going to cross abour party this this is a red line. This is sonot going to cross inour party this this is a red line. This is sonot going to cross in termsrty is not going to cross in terms of to leave the echr of threatening to leave the echr because because the fact is it benefits all of us. Would nick leaving the echr actually make it easier to deal with the situation of boats over the channel . Well, we dont know but it might be worth trying because we have something. Have to do something. See, robert just saying Robert Jenrick is just saying hes whatevers hes prepared to do whatevers necessary this is an necessary because this is an emergency situation. Now, the law have described it as law society have described it as using sledgehammer to crack using a sledgehammer to crack a nut. Not really nut. Yeah, its not really a nut, it . Because its such nut, is it . Because its such a big problem. Its going to be a problem all of europe, problem for all of europe, all of coming of the west in the coming years. I to be mature i think we have to be mature about it and we have to consider all you the all options. You know, the guardian well, guardian was saying, oh, well, well were well be an outlier. Were just russia but thats russia and us. But thats just a sort way of putting it. But but that is a that is true. But the thing is, whether its needs its necessary, something needs to no, totally. But to be done. No, no, totally. But the the the question is, if theres the law saying is not law is based saying this is not it, not actually it, because its not actually and going to hurt and its actually going to hurt the of us these are the rest of us because these are our rights. Would be, our human rights. That would be, is for to is it not possible for us to have without have human rights without outsourcing Decision Making have human rights without outs� european Decision Making have human rights without outs� european decisi� well,iking to a european power . Well, its possible, this has possible, but this has been a long agreement has Long Term Agreement that has helped Long Term Agreement that has helthis is what im very this is what im very mistrustful of that because dunng mistrustful of that because during brexit we during the brexit debate, we constantly had this idea that, oh, about these oh, well, what about all these all that all this legislation that protects lot protects our rights . But a lot of were of those legislation were predated start. Predated the eu for a start. Things equal pay and also things like equal pay and also we own we can develop our own legislation that. We can develop our own legislati n that. We can develop our own legislati mean, that. We can develop our own legislati mean, i that. We can develop our own legislati mean, ijustiat. We can develop our own legislati mean, i just dont see but i mean, i just dont see this as an eu issue as opposed to is something needs this as an eu issue as opposed to be is something needs this as an eu issue as opposed to be andsomething needs this as an eu issue as opposed to be and arguably] needs this as an eu issue as opposed to be and arguably] torys to be and arguably if the tory government put money government had put the money into our Immigration Department , to process , we would be able to process these lot they these a lot quicker. They wouldnt big backlog wouldnt have such a big backlog. Issue. Thats the real issue. Saying its an. Thats the real issue. Issue, saying its an. Thats the real issue. Issue, sayinging its an. Thats the real issue. Issue, saying its its an. Thats the real issue. Issue, saying its the an eu issue, im saying its the principle. Cant we handle principle. Why cant we handle our human issues . Our own human rights issues . Yeah but this is like. The is its human but the point is its human rights issues. As you know, its bigger, bigger britain. Bigger, bigger than britain. Well, im not so human rights not sure. Anyway, not so sure. Anyway, were to going about this going move on. What about this in the daily star . Always like to star, nick. To cover the star, nick. Is important in yeah. This is important in what. What its actually. What do you mean . I thought it joke. What do you mean . I thought it didnt joke. What do you mean . I thought it didnt actually get it i didnt actually get it because i dont have a filthy mind. Because i. Because i read the daily star. Its of daily star. Its a lot of onlyfans pictures. Hes funny with the cap hes only funny with the cap. So the daily star is relatively serious for the daily star. Its were all taking naps, doing the gardening and even pumpy, which naps, doing the gardening and everposh pumpy, which naps, doing the gardening and everposh term. Pumpy, which naps, doing the gardening and everposh term. When pumpy, which naps, doing the gardening and everposh term. When we npy, which naps, doing the gardening and everposh term. When we should|ich is a posh term. When we should be working home. Be working from home. So basically theres a few papers have its the its the 1 in have it. Its the its the 1 in 8 britons have had sex on company time. How will they know . I know its shocking and theyre calling a hybrid theyre calling it a hybrid working pattern, which is a mixture of work , gardening and mixture of work, gardening and sex. Thats people sex. Apparently thats people are course they are. Theyre are of course they are. Theyre at eight hours a day. At home for eight hours a day. Theyre work theyre not going to work for that time. Its that whole time. No, its obvious i mean, its obvious. Obvious. I mean, its obvious. Were thinking from were thinking about work from home. Of grim, home. Its kind of grim, actually. You think its going to you to be fun, but when i if you want to your own podcast want to do like your own podcast or an article, or youre writing an article, thats when youre on thats fun, but when youre on the clock working someone, the clock working for someone, but like but youre at home, its like being on house arrest. If you yeah, but its great if you can. I mean, i cant diy or can. I mean, i cant do diy or sex, so dont have a sex, so and i dont have a garden, you get loads work garden, so you get loads of work done. Basically thats okay. But what about this . I mean, theyre talking about napping at home, shows home, but Research Shows continually home, but Research Shows contduring you are nap during the day, you are much, much more productive in the in when the afternoon. In fact, when i was teacher, used to was a school teacher, i used to go the boarding house go back to the boarding house dunng go back to the boarding house during period, 20 during my free period, have a 20 minute id be on minute nap, and then id be on fire that. So why dont fire after that. So why dont we do say this do that . Why dont we say this is thing . Is a good thing . Believe absolutely is a i believe it absolutely is a good and has good thing. And this has been the constant since the constant battle since lockdown whatnot in terms of lockdown and whatnot in terms of this model. The lockdown and whatnot in terms of this this model. The lockdown and whatnot in terms of this this ismodel. The lockdown and whatnot in terms of this this is oneel. 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In and suddenly the kids are abandjapanese in and suddenly the kids are abandjapanese businesses, in and suddenly the kids are abandjapanese businesses, they some japanese businesses, they have in sort have those pods in in the sort of companies you go of the companies and you can go and nap for ten minutes, do a power nap and then get back to work that power nap and then get back to woriis that power nap and then get back to woriis really that power nap and then get back to woriis really good that power nap and then get back to woriis really good thing. That this is a really good thing. Not longer than absolutely. Not longer than 20 way. They 20 minutes, by the way. They also interesting 20 minutes, by the way. They also 34 interesting 20 minutes, by the way. They also 34 breakfast, ng that 34 of bbc breakfast, entire is workers or entire viewership is workers or people working , watching telly entire viewership is workers or pewatchinging , watching telly entire viewership is workers or pewatching tv, watching telly entire viewership is workers or pewatching tv, 48 ching telly entire viewership is workers or pewatching tv, 48 tuningelly or watching tv, 48 tuning into good britain. Oh, well, good morning britain. Oh, well, they be doing so they shouldnt be doing that. So i to anybody whos i just want to say anybody whos at us, hello, gb i just want to say anybody whos at gb us, hello, gb i just want to say anybody whos at gb news us, hello, gb i just want to say anybody whos at gb news might1ello, gb i just want to say anybody whos at gb news might aslo, gb i just want to say anybody whos at gb news might aslo, gego on news gb news might as well go on on the cat. Yeah. And to going say and im to going say i disapprove what youre disapprove of what youre doing. Get work. Coming get back to work. Okay. Coming up psni up in the next section, the psni declare Critical Incident and declare a Critical Incident and labour have accused of labour have been accused of increasing. Increasing dangerous driving. Reading. Stay youre listening to gb news radio. Radio. Welcome back to headliners, your first look at thursdays newspapers. Im andrew doyle. Newspapers. Im andrew doyle. Im here tonight with josh howie and nick dixon. So lets continue with the stories now. Were going to go to thursdays express. Great news for pensioners. Yes , state pension, triple yes, state pension, triple lock hike set to smash inflation, but may trigger a huge backlash. So this is the never ending debate over the triple lock. Yes and essentially it was describe what the triple lock is. The triple lock is basically the pensions are either going to be going up by 2. 5. Inflation or wages. Yes. Or inflation or wages. Okay. One of those. So guaranteed , whichever the guaranteed, whichever the highest of those. So pensioners are going to be okay in other ways essentially. Was frozen in 2022 and but it was frozen in 2022 and caused a when caused a bit of a problem when it frozen. Yeah, it did call it was frozen. Yeah, it did call it was frozen. Yeah, it did call it a of problem, but last it a bit of a problem, but last year by 10, so they year it went up by 10, so they were quids. In this year, whats going happen is going to happen is interestingly, take it interestingly, if they take it from september, the inflation rate and everyone assuming rate and everyone was assuming that to going be still that it was to going be still quite its actually to quite high, but its actually to going be lower than what the wage. So it basically wage increases. So it basically means that everyones theyre going to, you know, pensioners are going to be getting about an extra. I think, £700. Yes, £800 up to 11,000. And then whats going to happen , weirdly, going to happen, weirdly, theyre saying is in a couple of years , it looks like they might years, it looks like they might start having to pay taxes because the threshold is because the Tax Threshold is like oh, like only about £12,000. Oh, i see. Theres going this see. So theres going to be this weird crossover period. Weird crossover period. You know, okay. But nick, you know, i think the hallmark of a civilisation well civilisation is how well we treat vulnerable, treat our most vulnerable, including. So its including our elderly. So its surely that are surely right that they are properly. Properly remunerate. Other one argument. The other argument is its in place. We leave in the cold. Well, no, the other argument is its there because vote is its there because they vote tory their tory and that and that their boomers already have all boomers who already have all the property dont property and maybe they dont need an need it and people say its an unworkable people need it and people say its an unwitsable people need it and people say its an unwits former people need it and people say its an unwits former lib people need it and people say its an unwits former lib dem people need it and people say its an unwits former lib dem guy ople need it and people say its an unwits former lib dem guy said say its former lib dem guy said it was was unworkable. It was it was unworkable. Someone suggested double someone else suggested a double lock out the lock where you take out the earnings element, still have earnings element, you still have the element. So the inflation element. So theres different solutions. A the inflation element. So the ofs different solutions. A the inflation element. So the of peopleent solutions. A the inflation element. So the of people think. Utions. A the inflation element. So theof people think itions. A the inflation element. So theof people think i mean,a lot of people think i mean, obviously when you phrase it like like like that, i look like a monster. But that the monster. But that was the intention. Also very if intention. Its also not very if you self employed, you you were self employed, you dont dont you were self employed, you don much dont you were self employed, you don much of dont you were self employed, you don much of a dont you were self employed, you don much of a pension dont get much of a pension because they largely self employed. They were largely self employed. But state pension they were largely self employed. But go state pension they were largely self employed. But go to state pension they were largely self employed. But go to people ate pension they were largely self employed. But go to people ate pdont1 they were largely self employed. But go to people ate pdont have only go to people who dont have an existing income . Isnt like old people so it isnt like old people whove got lots of money who dont it. Whove got lots of money who doryeah, it. Whove got lots of money who doryeah, theres that. Yeah, theres that. But you have you have earned enough. You have to have contributed enough it enough to the question is, is it fair people and fair on younger people and the question we afford fair on younger people and the qu� because we afford fair on younger people and the qu� because pension we afford fair on younger people and the qu� because pension costsifford fair on younger people and the qu� because pension costs went it, because pension costs went up they went up 6 billion up from they went up 6 billion to 110 billion year, and to 110 billion last year, and theyre 135 theyre projected to be 135 billion theyre projected to be 135 billso its. How do you pay for that . Yeah, well, were paying for it whatever. Yeah, its it and whatever. And yeah, its interesting. On it and whatever. And yeah, its incourse. G. On it and whatever. And yeah, its incourse. Yeah on it and whatever. And yeah, its incourse. Yeah to on it and whatever. And yeah, its incourse. Yeah to increase on a course. Yeah to increase faster than prices not not obviously this room. Obviously in this room. Well speak for yourself. Right. Were going to move on to the telegraph now. And it sounds the telegraph now. And it sounds Like Northern irelands chief constable has a day. Constable has had a long day. Nick, this this is an nick, this is this is an incredible nick, this is this is an inc|welle nick, this is this is an inc|well , its incredible in well, its incredible in a sort of bad way, you mean . Yeah, like i cant believe this happened kind of way. Yeah. Its the psni. I wasnt saying its a good thing. I got that. Thing. No, no, i got that. Just. I was just i was just. I was just wondering to but. Yeah wondering what to say, but. Yeah i it was because i was wondering. It was because of northern of your interest in Northern Ireland. Mean ireland. But you just mean because basically because its shocking, basically whats happened is the Police Service ireland, service of Northern Ireland, psni to you and me, andrew, have accidentally revealed peoples surnames, locations or departments. Just everything . Yes. Just everything . Yes. Just everything . Yes. Except their private addresses was the only addresses that was the only thing didnt reveal by thing they didnt reveal by accident. Up for accident. It was up there for a penod accident. It was up there for a period of three hours before it was theyre was removed. And theyre basically bad, basically going, whoops, my bad, bro quite leak. You thats quite a leak. You know, the security know, given the security concerns in Northern Ireland, which and the idea which are ongoing and the idea of psni having all of their of the psni having all of their data, mean, everything data, i mean, Everything Everything about the way the organisation, organisation works, that works, every department that everyones in, is like a everyones in, this is like a gift to any dissident. Well, exactly. And but the positive is that should be positive is that it should be easy whos easy to identify whos responsible , right . Responsible, right . Well, arent the psni responsible . Responsible . Well, but we, we now well, well, but we, we now know who works there. So it was a joke. It was. You were attempting a joke. Sometimes it. I got it. Thanks, its not thanks, mate. I mean, its not inside. Inside. You know, are lucky that you know, we are lucky that this now. It this is happening now. And it didnt midst of didnt happen in the midst of the know, when the troubles. You know, when that absolute. That would have been absolute. Dont know is that would have been absolute. Requested dont know is that would have been absolute. Requested thisiont know is that would have been absolute. Requested this foi. Know is who requested this foi. But they were yeah, but they were requesting for something else. From i understand , they from what i understand, they werent this werent requesting all of this information , but that they made information, but that they made a freedom hacker in a freedom of laziest hacker in the we requested all this. We we requested all this. We have the have all the details of the staff and they no. Staff and where they live. No. Yeah. They requested something else. Accident. I mean, dont think i mean, yeah, i dont think dissident requesting dissident groups were requesting information, about police. A double, be like a double, triple bluff. Bluff. I mean, the thing about this bluff. I is,� an, the thing about this bluff. I is, in, the thing about this bluff. I is, i mean, thing about this bluff. I is, i mean, people out this bluff. I is, i mean, people think|is stuff is, i mean, people think that, you know, because the troubles ostensibly troubles are ostensibly over. But, was but, you know, there was that guy omagh, police guy shot in omagh, that Police Officer shot in omagh, seriously injured back in february. This is there. Is the threat is still there. Police officers northern Police Officers in Northern Ireland still check under their cars explosive the cars for explosive devices. The dissident groups havent gone away. You know, theyre still so this stuff is a major problem, a major security leak, major a major security leak, 300, killed 300, 300 Police Officers killed dunng 300, 300 Police Officers killed during troubles. 300, 300 Police Officers killed during troubles. You know, during the troubles. You know, they very careful. They have to be very careful. Absolutely. And are absolutely. And people are also middle also going to know their middle initials. And so initials now as well. And so they can well, im just saying they can well, im just saying they might be like thats thats what. Theres the what. Yeah, i mean, theres the embarrassing nice what. Yeah, i mean, theres the erwe rrassing nice what. Yeah, i mean, theres the erwe ifassing nice what. Yeah, i mean, theres the erwe if pieces nice what. Yeah, i mean, theres the erwe if pieces got nice what. Yeah, i mean, theres the erwe if pieces got to nice what. Yeah, i mean, theres the erwe if pieces got to that nice if we if pieces got to that level where thats the big concern. Well that is the concern im afraid not josh were well that is the concern im afraid to not josh were well that is the concern im afraid to move osh were well that is the concern im afraid to move on| were well that is the concern im afraid to move on to were well that is the concern im afraid to move on to thursdays going to move on to thursdays telegraph and whats this telegraph now. And whats this about welsh speed limits . Its pretty much what you just said , andrew. Its welsh. Just said, andrew. Its welsh. No, i want the details of the welsh speed limits is exactly what it says on the tin welsh. Labours mile hour speed labours 20 mile per hour speed limit increased dangerous limit has increased dangerous driving. The unintended driving. So its the unintended consequence incredibly consequence of incredibly slow driving. Taxi drivers hate it. Driving. Taxi drivers hate it. Everyone hates it. We hate it in london, they hate it in wales. And done is its seen and what its done is its seen dangerous , overtaking, increase, dangerous, overtaking, increase, tailgating. Young cant tailgating. Young people cant cross. People are too close to cross. People are too close to people. Ive already said that one. Red one. They actually using red ribbons. How serious it ribbons. This is how serious it is. Theyre putting red ribbons ribbons. This is how serious it is. Their re putting red ribbons ribbons. This is how serious it is. Their cars|tting red ribbons ribbons. This is how serious it is. Their cars in ng red ribbons ribbons. This is how serious it is. Their cars in protest. Bbons on their cars in protest. Hiv. On their cars in protest. Exactly. Hiv. On their cars in protest. Exactly. And hiv. On their cars in protest. Exactly. And its v. On their cars in protest. Exactly. And its and people are some people the moderates are some people the moderates are its okay on the are saying its okay on the arterial road because no , arterial road because but no, no, they should at least the opposite. They should at least opposite. They should at least stay and Everything Else stay at 30. And Everything Else can but theyre saying can be 20. But theyre saying thatis can be 20. But theyre saying that is disastrous. Can i just give of you nick . Give a count of you here, nick . Got all these so youve got all these people each other, people cutting into each other, driving not respecting theyre not respecting the new 20 hour speed 20 hour, 20 mile per hour speed limit. Road rage limit. Youve got road rage incidents. Isnt the reason why this increased dangerous this has increased dangerous driving arent driving is because people arent abiding rules. Abiding with the new rules. Expecting it. Well, theyre expecting it. Theyre it. But theyre doing it. But with resentment yeah resentment and tailgating. Yeah and but yes, the other thing and but yes, but the other thing is, cross, is is, you cant cross, though, is apparently problem apparently a serious problem because near to because everyones so near to each theyre so each other because theyre so i suppose if they really just followed a fool breaks followed the only a fool breaks the rule and then the two second rule and then theyre stopping theyre all going stopping distance. That. Distance. Yeah, all of that. But ones like, no, but no ones like, no, because thing is right because josh the thing is right ive been driving london ive been driving in london recently central where recently in Central London where its and at its now 20 mile an hour and at first annoyed because, first i was annoyed because, you know, getting know, im not getting home as quick. Now quick. But now, no, but now i think well, actually if i hit an antelope or something or, you know, youll only bruise it. Ill only bruise it. Yeah. And thing is that this is and the thing is that this is also anecdotal. They havent also all anecdotal. They havent actually got any hard information and information here. Right. And certainly in places like Central London whatnot, actually london and whatnot, you actually do to your destination about do get to your destination about the time anyway. The same time anyway. Regardless, are arguments regardless, there are arguments for this time for maybe making this time specific, so theres no need to do it at three in the morning or Something Like that. Yeah. Also, as says there some as it says here, there are some roads, roads where roads, arterial roads where actually is unnecessary and actually this is unnecessary and there arent residences, but it does lives. There arent residences, but it does welles. There arent residences, but it does well ,. There arent residences, but it does well , this is saying it nick well, this is saying it doesnt and its counterproductive. But can i just say one more thing . The welsh conservative shadow transport minister the transport minister said the labour time Labour Government still has time to which on to u turn, which was a pun on this anti driver anti worker anti road agenda whose anti road like im done with tarmac guys thats it for me anti road its road phobia yeah classic i would say that we should spread this out the country on out across the country on motorways motorways should be just with lane just 20 mile an hour with a lane if youre in rush. So you get if youre in a rush. So you get them on the them if you youve been on the m1 over the last ten years, it has been about miles hour. Has been about 20 miles an hour. Saying like, so im just saying like, think all the lives that think of all the lives that we have, postcode have, the postcode safety obsessed have, the postcode safety obsesse yeah yes. Yeah yes. Yeah cars because fast cars are dangerous if youve been dangerous. If youve ever been hit what im talking. Well, certainly when youre driving. Yeah, exactly. So for people like were going to like me. Okay, were going to move mirror move on to thursdays mirror now. You hate it now. Josh, and dont you hate it when gets your name when your dad gets your name wrong . Wrong . Well, indeed, it is his well, indeed, if it is his dad. Well, so so, uh oh. What are we talking about here, josh . Were talking about prince harry. You said it, not me. And you said it, not me. And prince harrys has been prince harrys title has been changed on royal mail website after huge mistake. Not just a little mistake. A huge mistake. Do they call him sort of like sigourney . No, they they basically said theyve included the air for a couple of years. So what i know, its so ridiculous. And whats so genius about this is that theyre like the express. The express originally found this and its like, what a scoop for the express to go on the website see they the website and see that they had. But whats also had. Hrh but whats also relatively amusing is prince andrews being moved down to the bottom of all the royals and now these been moved down. These guys have been moved down. So you can use the so theres this you can use the website to find out where they are standard. Are in standard. Nick like the fact that no one does one noticed for two years does suggest matter. Suggest that it doesnt matter. Massive, but theyve its not massive, but theyve changed andrew dont changed it now. Andrew dont worry, theyve changed it from hrh which joke hrh to sob, which great joke in america that works better. America, that joke works better. Landed. But that would but it landed. But that would have york city. Have killed in new york city. It would have killed a great joke. What theyve joke. So but what theyve actually the actually changed it to is the duke line duke of sussex is fifth in line to and the youngest to the throne, and the youngest son of diana. Son of the king of diana. Princess. Just its princess. Well, its just its just a kind of some bloke, you know they just know what i mean . They just think complete now, know what i mean . They just think reallyomplete now, know what i mean . They just think really anplete now, know what i mean . They just think really a story; now, know what i mean . They just think really a story about now, is this really a story about just non story , a typo on just a non story, a typo on the internet . Problem this, internet . The problem with this, but should have been but also this should have been something have something that they could have sorted out, like it doesnt. You know, you guys this is you know, you guys have you just have got websites. You just literally few literally just change a few words. Ridiculous. Literally just change a few worharry ridiculous. Literally just change a few worharry ridicul� care. Harry doesnt care. Harry doesnt care. Cares. He oh, hes crying. He cares. He he big about this he cares a whole big about this. Big time. This is a new book. Yeah. Chapter. Yeah. The next new chapter. Hrh. Yeah. The next new chapter. Okay, hrh. Yeah. The next new chapter. Okay, hrhlook, that the okay, well, look, that is the end part two, but do join us end of part two, but do join us in part three for mrs. Thwarted return a novel solution to prison overcrowding and problematic shop decor. A do not problematic shop decor. A do not go anywhere that warm feeling inside from boxt boilers proud sponsors of weather on. Gb news. Sponsors of weather on. Gb news. Hello there, im Greg Dewhurst and welcome to your latest gb news weather forecast. 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Some of these showers could be heavy north west of heavy towards the north west of the uk and temperatures still around 25 or 26 towards the south east. But fresher into the weekend that warm feeling inside from boxt boilers proud sponsors of weather on gb news as youre listening to gb news radio. Radio. Welcome back to headliners. Welcome back to headliners. Your first look at thursdays newspapers. Im andrew doyle and newspapers. Im andrew doyle and im joined tonight by josh howie and the big dog, nic dixon. Were looking thursdays were looking at thursdays daily now and this mizzy daily mail now and this mizzy character , nick, is having a character, nick, is having a comeback. Theyre sort of pinning it on young but really young mizzy, but its not really mizzy. Its Police Officer punched face by thug as punched in the face by thug as chaos in oxford street. Chaos erupts in oxford street. Tick crimewave. But really tick tock crimewave. But really it came about from it. It did come fuelled come about from a tiktok fuelled campaign. And five people campaign. But and five people were but wasnt were arrested. But it wasnt clear if mizzy was really taking part. He was nearby. Part. But he was he was nearby. Was nearby. He was nearby. He was nearby. But have changed since but you have changed since mizzy you on twitter. Ive changed my tune. Im busy because so mizzy follows me on mizzy. And on twitter. Hello to mizzy. And hes had some struggles recently. Hes been sectioned recently. Hes been sectioned recently and he seems to be having some. Is that was that the final nail the coffin . Were nail in the coffin . They were like dixon on twitter. Yeah, but nick, youve got to be worried about. Yeah, but nick, youve got to be hesad about. Yeah, but nick, youve got to be hes intimidated people i ive been very harsh against me hes done some me in the past. Hes done some terrible things, but im trying to a chance to to give him a chance to rehabilitate. Hes not. Rehabilitate. But. And hes not. And fair him. Rehabilitate. But. And hes not. And not fair him. Rehabilitate. But. And hes not. And not necessarilyr him. Rehabilitate. But. And hes not. And not necessarily involved in this. E e e. E just a tick no, this this is just a tick tock where theyre tock campaign where theyre saying, sports. Yeah, saying, rob jd sports. Yeah, exactly. That exactly. Our young people, that impressionable exactly. Our young people, that impand onable exactly. Our young people, that impand oneit. E exactly. Our young people, that impand oneit to major trends out and do it to major trends now in our country its stupid social trends and General Social media trends and general decline country decline of the country coming together. Yeah decline of the country coming together. Yeah i this is together. Yeah i mean this is pretty stuff. Like if pretty scary stuff. Like if young think, you young people just think, you know, theyll go off and rob a sports because someone sports shop because someone told them think them to. And i like to think that humanity like that, that humanity is not like that, that humanity is not like that, that were like that we dont were not like drones. But these people apparently young people and well, its young people and they are idiots. And its young boys yeah. Boys in particular. Yeah. And theyre yeah i was an theyre idiots. Yeah i was an idiot. Im still of an idiot. You didnt. You didnt but you didnt. You didnt rob jd sports . Rob any jd sports . Thats because i yeah, but thats because i didnt have mizzi following me. Hes the one we need to be watching at that point. Straight there. You straight down there. So you just think this is the inevitability of male youth . I think youth combined think its male youth combined with and no parenting. Yeah, because you didnt have social media when you were young, andrew. Im sure you were reading your if any reading your poetry. If any of those rob jd, those books had said rob jd, youd why youd be like, firstly, why is that . Doing pope that . Whats that doing in pope 7 that . Whats that doing in pope . Gone and . But then youd have gone and done . But then youd have gone and dorim surprised. You know what . Im surprised. You know what . Jd sports is . I did some research well, i did some research before the show, okay . And apparently that apparently its a shop that sells football attire. Sells football and other attire. Exactly. Thats not a football is an attire, isnt it . 7 its em h it can be depending its not. It can be depending what you do with it. True. True. Yeah. Its a sports shop. Yeah. No, its a sports shop. Yeah all right. Going to yeah all right. Were going to move a topic im more move on to a topic im more accustomed armed with. This is the times. Now oh, whats this one about . Home ownership. Its my favourite subject. Nick yes, and my favourite at the moment. Even though its a dream and 10 under 40s, give and its 4 in 10 under 40s, give up Home Ownership this up on Home Ownership and this for. Yes. And theyre for good. Yes. And theyre a generation of guppies. For good. Yes. And theyre a generation of guppies. Now, for good. Yes. And theyre a generation of guppies. Now, this comes yuppie. Think comes from yuppie. And you think this yuppie the this is weird because yuppie the y stands for young, meaning young professionals. Do you think what does the for stand think what does the g for stand in guppies . Seems be given think what does the g for stand in ion� pies . Seems be given think what does the g for stand in on property, eems be given think what does the g for stand in on property, sons be given think what does the g for stand in on property, so theyve given think what does the g for stand in on property, so theyve justzn up on property, so theyve just given up completely. So thats where from. Guppies where the g comes from. Guppies oh, i thought it was gangster. Looks theyve given it looks as if theyve given up thats as far it looks as if theyve given up i thats as far it looks as if theyve given up i can thats as far it looks as if theyve given up i can figure thats as far it looks as if theyve given up i can figure out. Thats as far it looks as if theyve given up i can figure out. Orts as far it looks as if theyve given up i can figure out. Or they far as i can figure out. Or they maybe because said geriatric, because theyre so old and they still i think because theyre so old and they stilithe i think because theyre so old and they stilithe giving i think because theyre so old and they stilithe giving up i think because theyre so old and they stilithe giving up aspect. Nk its the giving up aspect. So its the giving up aspect. So its very depressing its very, very depressing and its very, very depressing and its basically 18 to 39 year olds zoopla, you olds were asked by zoopla, you know, a you know, do you have a will you ever home . Said ever own a home . And 20 said they would. But said they would. But 40 said they never very, very never would. So its very, very bleak. And we all know this. And also one of the most also the uk is one of the most difficult to organise, difficult places to organise, to sell a house. So sell and buy a house. So byzantine complexity , the amount byzantine complexity, the amount of and solicitors just of documents and solicitors just throwing money all over the throwing away money all over the place, horrendous. Place, its horrendous. And then anyone out time. Anyone can pull out at any time. So people just cant so these young people just cant get ladder get onto the property ladder and theyve certainly given up any aspirations. Cant get on aspirations. I cant even get on and got chance. And theyve got no chance. Is people yeah, and this is people earning a year. Yes, earning £60,000 a year. Yes, thats 30 of it is mad. Earning £60,000 a year. Yes, thats 30 of it is mad. And thats 30 of it is mad. And its so unfair because rents are so astronomical that there is no chance. And thats why you have all these people moving back in their parents. I the only reason we own our flat is because i was able move my grandma able to move in with my grandma and i got married and had a baby there. Thats what it there. Yeah. And thats what it took to save the deposit. But is it just people live it just that people want to live in london, the big cities . Couldnt they move to like lowestoft needs be like a there needs to be like a grandma you can in grandma service. You can move in with like joshs grandma, someones grandma, and you stay there take of there for a bit, take care of them, the them, make sure they get the right them, make sure they get the rigiand that work. And that could work. And that could work. Because theyre actually, because theyre lonely. Would be nice for lonely. That would be nice for old need the old people. They dont need the triple you triple lock pension because you can we go. Were solving there we go. Were solving all problems win. All the problems here. Win win. Yeah. We thats what yeah. There we go. Thats what you for. Were you watch headliners for. Were going thursdays you watch headliners for. Were going now. Thursdays you watch headliners for. Were going now. Josh thursdays you watch headliners for. Were going now. Josh and thursdays mirror now. Josh and a democratic to prison democratic solution to prison overcrowding, this overcrowding, adding, yeah, this is to asked its voters to be asked if its worth locking up criminals in bizarre tory plans. So this is the justice Secretarys Department have commissioned and i think its for £90,000 or so £83,000 a contract out there to basically ask members of the pubuc basically ask members of the public what crimes do you think people should be let out of jail with so that dont look with so that they dont look particularly unpopular . Yes. When do let people out of when they do let people out of jail because we have massive of shortage of spaces in our jails, because guess what . The tories havent built the place, the spaces. They know this. The problem with too many criminals. So somethings going. There are two things going on together, promise there are two things going on togthese promise there are two things going on togthese spaces promise there are two things going on togthese spaces. Promise there are two things going on togthese spaces. They promise there are two things going on togthese spaces. They havent; all these spaces. They havent built done built it. They havent done the investment and theyre investment and thus theyre having like regular jails having to use like regularjails in in police cells and in prison, in police cells and whatnot. This is scary. I mean, nick, this article talks specifically about examples. One guy, about two examples. One guy, fabian greco, received a suspended sentence for punching and kicking a man in a road rage incident. And then another guy, a trafficker who threw a people trafficker who threw a mug boiling liquid at mug of boiling liquid at a prison officer, jail prison officer, avoided a jail sentence. Putting sentence. Theyre not putting criminals that kind of criminals who do that kind of thing in jail because they dont have dont we put have space. Why dont we put them grandma, like them in with grandma, like you said fact that said before, the fact that johnny barge idea , the johnny barges barge idea, the fact trafficker fact that a people trafficker throwing boiling hot at throwing boiling hot liquid at a prison officer doesnt warrant prison, therell prison, and it says therell always places always be enough prison places to british safe. Always be enough prison places to were british safe. Always be enough prison places to were not ritish safe. Always be enough prison places to were not safe| safe. Always be enough prison places to were not safe now. Safe. Always be enough prison places to were not safe now. And afe. Always be enough prison places to were not safe now. And this were not safe now. And this idea that quantifying the idea that of quantifying the publics to pay publics willingness to pay to punish of crime. Punish offenders of each crime. But public but you ask the public especially touch the kid especially like touch the kid £100, thats the £100, thats like thats the system. Theyre going to say, what pay for . What would you pay for . So its tough on popular what would you pay for . Soiss tough on popular what would you pay for . Sois the ugh on popular what would you pay for . Sois the new on popular what would you pay for . Sois the new slogan jlar what would you pay for . Sois the new slogan its crime is the new slogan its kind of madness. I mean there are activists who that should abolish who say that we should abolish all altogether. All prisons altogether. And these some them have these are some of them have appeared have appeared on this channel, have they . Mean, they . Indeed. Yeah. I mean, so do we have do do we. You know, we have to do something because, you know, like or implies that, like nick says or implies that, you know, these people shouldnt like nick says or implies that, yotoutow, these people shouldnt like nick says or implies that, yotout outthese people shouldnt like nick says or implies that, yotout out there people shouldnt like nick says or implies that, yotout out there in ople shouldnt like nick says or implies that, yotout out there in thee shouldnt like nick says or implies that, yotout out there in the publicdnt be out out there in the public because theyre danger to all because theyre a danger to all of us. Absolutely we should have and thats why we should have spent this last 13 years investing by investing in these spaces. By the the the way, at the end of the article, one my article, theres one of my favourite article favourite things in article genre they go, genre where they go and they go, actually chalk said, no, no, actually, mr chalk said, no, no, we commission it. Its we didnt commission it. Its got do us. It got nothing to do with us. It was, thing that was, it was just a thing that everyone doing. Everyone was doing. So he basically blows the basically just totally blows the article apart. Article apart. m article apart. Do that okay, they always do that just end, just right at just at the end, just right at the end there. Okay. Well, the end there. Yeah. Okay. Well, were this were going to close this section guardian section now with the guardian and artwork. And problematic artwork. Nick, im going to get in trouble here. So this is thats why i gave it to you. Shop em elm sorry. Shop faces raised some allegations over picture of tobacco this tobacco plantation. And this was missing harriman, the chairman of London South Bank centre. And you watched the video. You watched the video. Basically, he goes in he basically, he goes in and he finds this picture hes finds this picture and hes saying because saying its offensive because its sort plantation and its sort of a plantation and its sort of a plantation and its slavery. And its people its slavery. And its people like being forced to work by like him being forced to work by a white. Theres the image. There we yeah, there it is. There we go. Yeah, there it is. Now problem is he now my only problem here is he films said it was films it. He said it was incredibly triggering imagery and filmed it. And i mean, and he filmed it. And i mean, im like, its not im not saying its amazing, but theyre not advocating it. Not necessarily advocating it. It picture in shop not necessarily advocating it. It i picture in shop not necessarily advocating it. It i think picture in shop not necessarily advocating it. It i think it icture in shop not necessarily advocating it. It i think it might in shop not necessarily advocating it. It i think it might be shop not necessarily advocating it. It i think it might be ashop not necessarily advocating it. It i think it might be a bitp and i think it might be a bit overblown. Dare i say. So is a place called so this is a place called farense cobham. You farense in cobham. What do you think this josh . He think about this one, josh . He says triggering and also says it was triggering and also that it should never be there because this shop apparently largely sells toys, family things. There is a tobacco things. But there is a tobacco room at back the shop. Room at the back of the shop. Yeah. And this shop yeah. And you know, this shop dates from over 100 years dates from from over 100 years ago. And the is that the ago. And the idea is that the tobacco about the tobacco room is about the history well. So history of tobacco as well. So theres if photo had been maybe if that photo had been there hundred but maybe if that photo had been thhasnt hundred but maybe if that photo had been thhasnt thisrndred but maybe if that photo had been thhasnt this isntd but maybe if that photo had been thhasnt this isnt the but maybe if that photo had been thhasnt this isnt the first3ut it hasnt this isnt the first time has brought time that this has been brought up. So 2020. The owner up. So in 2020. And the owner said would change it up. So in 2020. And the owner saidthey would change it up. So in 2020. And the owner saidthey havent. Jld change it up. So in 2020. And the owner saidthey havent. Iti change it up. So in 2020. And the owner saidthey havent. It justinge it up. So in 2020. And the owner saidthey havent. It just seems and they havent. It just seems like to die like a very weird hill to die on. Okay. But there is an interesting detail which detail about this, which the guardian article does not mention mention mention. Why do they not mention this . Photograph has this . That photograph has a poster to it explaining the poster next to it explaining the context that was context, explaining that it was taken plantation in cuba in taken at a plantation in cuba in 1907. And says and i quote, 1907. And it says and i quote, unlike other crop harvesting industries, the tobacco plantation owners of cuba refused slave labour, refused to use slave labour, insisting on an employee employing free men. Those arent slaves. And that makes and its slaves. And that makes and its made clear in now why now, look, im not talking about whether the triggering the image is triggering or whatever. Guardian whatever. Why does the guardian omit rather important omit that rather important detail to this story . Detail to this story . I think youve asked your answer. Answer. P answer. Rhetorical question. It was a rhetorical question. Everyone but i mean, i wonder if they put instead of then put that up instead of then getting of it like someone getting rid of it like someone complained about and they getting rid of it like someone complikepd about and they getting rid of it like someone complike, lets ut and they getting rid of it like someone complike, lets get and they getting rid of it like someone complike, lets get itand they getting rid of it like someone complike, lets get itand some were like, lets get it for some context. It just seems unnecessary. Unnecessary. Great. But dont you find it odd ifs great. But dont you find it odd its not great . But odd that its not great . But dont odd were dont you find it odd that were in you can in in a world where you can in south can. Theyre south africa, you can. Theyre killing because killing people every day because theyre and the richest theyre white and the richest man elon has man in the world. Elon musk, has brought to no brought attention to it. And no one white one cares because its white people, that strange . Im people, isnt that strange . Im not saying this is either, not saying this is great either, but it minor in but that seems it seems minor in that context. But that seems it seems minor in tha well, context. But that seems it seems minor in tha well, mean, ext. But that seems it seems minor in tha well, mean, look, my issue well, i mean, look, my issue is things be its is two things cant be bad. Its not bad. Its not not both be bad. Its not a photograph i think photograph of slaves. I think that my guess as it was also. But it was also pointed out in this article that is that in this article that it is that there basically indentured there was basically indentured workers afterwards. There were still, werent in this still, but they werent in this photograph. Hes he just looked i but hes he just looked i dont it i doesnt dont know if it was i doesnt read the small, but i dont know if a profit share. If it was on a profit share. What i mean . You know what i mean . You know what i mean . Know the details of we dont know the details of the employment. Right. We dont know the details of the en right. 1ent. Right. We dont know the details of the enright. 1entshould right. We dont know the details of the en right. 1entshould lookt. We dont know the details of the ithat|ht. 1entshould lookt. We dont know the details of the ithat beforeishould lookt. We dont know the details of the ithat before makinglookt. Into that before making judgement. Well, thats all judgement. Okay well, thats all for part three. Us part for part three. Join us in part four, where well querying four, where well be querying the talking four, where well be querying the shakespeare talking four, where well be querying the shakespeare small] four, where well be querying the shakespeare small doses four, where well be querying the sipowereare small doses four, where well be querying the sipowerearrebranding. Ioses four, where well be querying the sipowerearrebranding. See; and the power of rebranding. See you. In two. Welcome back to headliners. Your first look at thursdays newspapers. Lets get straight back into it with thursdays times now. Now, whats this . Museums josh story of the night mad museum. Story of the night. Mary rose museum under fire for queering its collection. So let me just its collection. So let me just read this first. I dont like to normally read, but this is brilliant and an octagonal mirror. Some nick combs , a ring mirror. Some nick combs, a ring and some prayer beads. Are these simply the personal effects of the poor souls who were lost on the poor souls who were lost on the mary or are they the mary rose or are they gateways to the world of 16th century queerness . Now thats century queerness . Now thats a sentence you aint going to hear pre 2020. So the mary rose , obviously so the mary rose, obviously this famous ship ive been to see myself, 16th century see it myself, the 16th century ship and its basically a blog, isnt theres blog thats isnt it . Theres a blog thats been on the official museum been put on the official Museum Website are querying website where they are querying nit combs and octagonal. This is a within wider museums a movement within wider museums. Yes, it absolutely is. To bring this these elements to it. So this is written and so people have seen this stuff and gone ridiculed it. Professor philip whos an philip hensher, whos an academic and it says here quite in big thing , who is gay . In big thing, who is gay . Everybody so hes allowed to criticise it , hes gay. And he criticise it, hes gay. And he just says theyre mental. He does now. Nick you know, when theyre queering the mirror, the octagonal mirror , mirror, the octagonal mirror, they talk about queer people they talk about how queer people today often have hair and we wear our hair as part of our identity. And this the most identity. And this is the most tenuous of connections imaginable. Imaginable. The comb on the mirror one is my favourite one, which is it says, mirror, right . Says, heres a mirror, right . And and says, and then it goes on and says, for people, may for queer people, we may experience feeling of experience a strong feeling of gender look gender dysphoria. When we look into a mirror. Thats thats how tenuous is. Heres tenuous it is. Heres an old mirror mirrors us. Mirror mirrors trigger us. Its like its beyond the joke. Its beyond its beyond brassai. Its i thought it was a joke. Well, triggered knit thing. The because. Yeah, the knit because. Yeah, because for because as i said here, for queer they how we wear queer people, they how we wear our hair is central pillar of identity. Me identity. Thats what got me into because into this debate because their boldest essentially their boldest. Im not allowed to be part Queer Movement part of the whole Queer Movement because , you know, i no choice. There is a real anti element. This written by hannah. So this is written by hannah. Shes described as studying a masters degree in public history. Im scared history. So im very scared because couple she because in a couple of years she will up the will probably be making up the curriculum thats going be curriculum thats going to be teaching is the problem. Teaching this is the problem. Of this mean, all of this stuff. I mean, youre just one youre right. Its not just one museum. Is really endemic museum. This is really endemic in all sorts of museums. Theres trying these trying to bring these ideologies, ideas into ideologies, these ideas into these where it these into this area where it just doesnt belong. And its laughable its that were laughable. Its good that were laughing right . Laughing at it, though, right . Thats scary thats the way its also scary because when does it become truth . Right were going truth . Okay. Right were going to to story now. To move on to this story now. This telegraph. And nick this is the telegraph. And nick shall i compare to shall i compare thee to political censorious . Political censorious . Yes, you can. This is Shakespeares Romeo and juliet. All the way. Tell us who wrote it. Shakespeares romeo and juliet cancelled by desantis. Dont law. So the. So dont say gay law. So the. So called dont say law, which called dont say gay law, which is mischaracterised by is kind of mischaracterised by aslef rights in aslef is the parental rights in education but there perhaps education act. But there perhaps misusing it, lets say perhaps an overreach of the law because there saying that romeo and juliet a because they juliet is a problem because they have pre marital sex, which obviously and you should obviously is bad and you should all it is it seems all repent. But it is it seems like silly law. My like a silly use of the law. My question sort of question here is, are sort of lefties who hate ron desantis doing purpose of doing this on purpose to kind of deliberately misuse the law to make it look silly . Thats my. Deliberately misuse the law to ma yeah,ook silly . Thats my. Deliberately misuse the law to ma yeah,ook iilly . Thats my. Deliberately misuse the law to ma yeah,ook i was thats my. Deliberately misuse the law to ma yeah,ook i was to ats my. Deliberately misuse the law to ma yeah,ook i was to going y. Deliberately misuse the law to ma yeah,ook i was to going ask yeah, no, i was to going ask that law apparently yeah, no, i was to going ask that been law apparently yeah, no, i was to going ask thatbeen misapplied apparently yeah, no, i was to going ask thatbeen misapplied allparently yeah, no, i was to going ask thatbeen misapplied all over1tly yeah, no, i was to going ask thatbeen misapplied all over the has been misapplied all over the place. This looks like mean, place. This looks like i mean, the idea banning romeo and the idea of banning romeo and juliet , of all juliet in a school, of all places sounds like trying places sounds like it is trying to test the absurdity of the law that santos has put. Is that whats happening here . I think thats happening thats exactly whats happening here, because it also runs contrary to the School District i the Education Minister who put out a thing saying that over the summer should read romeo the summer you should read romeo and theyre and juliet. So i think theyre absolutely doing that to make a point. You say, its the point. And as you say, its the its called say gay its the so called dont say gay law, not really about law, but its not really about that. Were that. Its because there were inappropriate that. Its because there were inappr< school libraries. Yes. If within school libraries. Yes. If you look at some of the excerpts and really its not about the gay families whatnot. Its gay families and whatnot. Its really about gender really all about gender identity and the sex and sexual elements that were placed. There were some elements in there, basically. And so people have said this is saying you is about desantis saying you cant say gay. No ones ever said and that phrase. Said that. And that phrase. I think the thing is they then they the republicans bought that into it and that gay element into it and they basically throwing the baby out bathwater, which is out with the bathwater, which is a of people, gay people who a lot of people, gay people who are protesting fighting are pro protesting or fighting against gender ideology against this gender ideology have said , look, this is have sort of said, look, this is the if tagged the problem. If were tagged in with the bad with these guys, this is the bad stuff to going happen. With these guys, this is the bad stu� on to going happen. With these guys, this is the bad stu� on the to going happen. With these guys, this is the bad stu� on the othering happen. With these guys, this is the bad stu� on the other hand, ppen. With these guys, this is the bad stu� on the other hand, romeo and on the other hand, romeo and juliet, juliet is 13. Juliet, you know, juliet is 13. Shes. So theres shes underage. So theres that element. Filthy play. Element. Its a filthy play. Mercutios are mercutios lines are particularly filthy , his particularly filthy, his imagery. You know, imagery. So, you know, maybe theres maybe is theres a point or maybe it is disgusting. Yeah i would ban it. Ban right. Were going ban it. Right. Were going to move to thursdays move on now to thursdays daily mail josh , whats this mail now and josh, whats this about wife beaters, gen z . About wife beaters, gen z . How many stories now start with gen z, gen z influencers rebrand the wife beater vest. A rebrand the wife beater vest. A wife pleaser doesnt even make sense. I know on tiktok in soledar , with Domestic Violence soledar, with Domestic Violence victims amid the metoo movement, which is nice to see, thats still a thing. And yeah, white vests. Theyre coming back into fashion. The 90s is coming back into into fashion. Right. And this is the item of clothing is this is the item of clothing is this white vest. Why not just this white vest. Why not just call it a white vest . I dont know why you would call it a wife pleaser, because all it really show gut. Really does is show your gut. No, but. No. But isnt the wife well, no. But isnt the wife beater because marlon beater phrase because Marlon Brando desire and it says here named desire and it says here that because he he hits his wife, stella, and he raped his sister law. Sister in law. I was spoiler alert and i was like, spoiler alert , give any , they didnt give me any warning ruined named desire. Nick, f but nick, if you call it a wife and youre saying wife pleaser and youre saying that it originated from brandos performance in streetcar, arent you like to be beaten . Thats what i read from it. Thats it sounds like to thats what it sounds like to me. Even sound me. It doesnt even sound politically me. It doesnt even sound polare lly excited this . Are you excited about this . Are you excited about this . Course. I was like, we of course. I was like, can we cover emailing cover this . I was emailing everyone. Please cover this . I was emailing e it ryone. Please cover this . I was emailing e it exactly. Please cover this . I was emailing eit exactly. It please cover this . I was emailing eit exactly. It makes please cover this . I was emailing eit exactly. It makes it please cover this . I was emailing e it exactly. It makes it sound;e. It exactly. It makes it sound like beating pleasing because like beating is pleasing because its just classic. Just its just classic. Its just changing language. It changing the language. But it doesnt racist as doesnt change white racist as well, white. Well, calling it white. Have an element they they have an element they havent element. They have an element they hmean, element. They have an element they hmean, probably element. They have an element they hmean, probably dont element. They have an element they hmean, probably dont give nent. They have an element they hmean, probably dont give them ideas. Josh i mean, the point about this sort stuff is that this sort of stuff is that theres real literal theres a real literal mindedness this whole mindedness within this whole movement, mindedness within this whole movem� any language that might change any language that might cause know its cause offence. We know its called but one called a wife beater, but no one in mind thinks , oh in their right mind thinks, oh well, going to incite the well, thats going to incite the beating of wine or that youre saying beat wives. Beating of wine or that youre say although beat wives. Beating of wine or that youre sayalthough if beat wives. Beating of wine or that youre say although if you beat wives. Beating of wine or that youre sayalthough if you get wives. Beating of wine or that youre sayalthough if you get vidirty although if you get it dirty or only part that or not, the only part that bothers theyre saying bothers me is theyre saying that got working that its got a working class prejudice working class prejudice against working class people, implied. Prejudice against working class peoplethats implied. Prejudice against working class peoplethats when ed. Prejudice against working class peoplethats when ii. Prejudice against working class peoplethats when i start go. So thats when i start to go. Actually, maybe that is a point and of state and get on my sort of state school horse. School high horse. Class people is it working class people only who wear beaters . Only who wear wife beaters . Is that says it that the. Well it says that it could stereotypes could perpetuate stereotypes of working class men are more likely violence. Working class men are more likeyeah, violence. Working class men are more likeyeah, because iolence. Working class men are more likeyeah, because its nce. Working class men are more likeyeah, because its saying yeah, because its saying its saying. Its all theyre saying. They wear guess thats wear the vest. I guess thats implied. I dont know. Maybe okay. Okay, maybe thats okay. Were on the were going to move to on the telegraph anti sexism beach telegraph now. Anti sexism beach patrols. Patrols. The problem. Oh, its you. Yeah. Oh, sorry. Its you. Yeah. No, youre both experts no, no, no. Youre both experts on i was so excited on this. I was so excited about this one. P puma pim i know. Its a big topic for you, but youll get there in a minute. The problem with being a woman beach, not woman on the beach, thats not me thats so me saying that. Thats them. So so thing. Theyre so theres this thing. Theyre calling plage. That calling it safer plage. That means and what youll have means beach and what youll have is have people that is youll have these people that will patrol to see if any women are harassed or bothered. Are being harassed or bothered. Right . And this is in niece, right . Or france, niece france. Or in france, niece in france. These theyre called yep. And these theyre called beach mediators and theyre dispatched reassure the dispatched one to reassure the woman, tackle woman, the other to tackle the accused. Think accused. I dont think literally. And of course, they could just say mate and deal with it straight away. Everyone knows in french, like work knows that in french, like work me, me, me sounds a bit like me and me , mate. And me, mate. Okay. What do you think about this, i mean, is what this, josh . I mean, this is what france is all about, it . France is all about, isnt it . Well catcalling in that kind of thing. Thing. Yeah. Romantic kind of. Josh, do you think that i mean, the woman who wrote this thinks its a patronising. A bit patronising. Woman wrote this is this woman who wrote this is all place. Shes like, all over the place. Shes like, you men ogling you know what . I love men ogling me when i had a fit body before i had a baby. And but maybe its bad and whatever. The gist i had a baby. And but maybe its baitand whatever. The gist i had a baby. And but maybe its bait is,i whatever. The gist i had a baby. And but maybe its bait is,i vithere er. The gist i had a baby. And but maybe its bait is,i vithere er. This the gist i had a baby. And but maybe its bait is,i vithere er. This app,]ist of it is, is there is this app, if you are being hassled now, theres a difference between checking people out. We all checking people out. We all check what do this show. Check now i feel violated watching are checking us out. Dont look at me, josh the beach. Even when people are unattractive, people are like, oh got a big tummy. Unattractive, people are like, on she got a big tummy. Unattractive, people are like, on she you got a big tummy. Unattractive, people are like, on she you know, a big tummy. Unattractive, people are like, on she you know, you g tummy. Unattractive, people are like, on she you know, you justmmy. Unattractive, people are like, on she you know, you just dont or she you know, you just dont check on holiday. Check people out. Go on holiday. What do. Thats what people do. Havent left england anyway because theres nothing else to do reading your do unless youre reading your book i finish your do unless youre reading your book by i finish your do unless youre reading your book by the finish your do unless youre reading your book by the way. 1ish your book, by the way. But the beach this summer, book, by the way. Bubut the beach this summer, book, by the way. Bubut it1e beach this summer, book, by the way. Bubut it whatach this summer, book, by the way. Bubut it what imthis summer, book, by the way. Bubut it what im tryingmmer, book, by the way. Bubut it what im trying toner, mate. But it what im trying to say this app is actually say is that this app is actually like when youre getting properly so if youre properly hassled. So if youre getting hassled, you can just click on this app. Someones going say, going to come over and say, look, mate, you should really have hassled . Have you been properly hassled . I mean, thats against the law, can go law, isnt it . You can go to a Police Officer. Well, i mean, i dont know where the between sort where the line is between sort of and saying it of like going up and saying it seems a bit ipp you click an app and blokes appear and and two french blokes appear and like, in like, just take you away in advance. I think, advance. I think its i think, look, an look, this does happen in an ideal young men would ideal world. Young men would be taught to. Not well they are taught to to. Not well they are arent they. Well i dont know. Be. They should be. They should be. Okay. Were going to have a quick look at this story in the metro. Josh news from far, far away, discovery on mars away, indeed. Discovery on mars suggests could suggests the red planet could have alien life. Have been home to alien life. Hot off the news that this is hot off the news that that mars is spinning faster. Yes, that was a big story. But now it turns out that they had conditions favourable to prebiotic evolution, which is my favourite techno band. And yeah favourite techno band. And yeah , the and this is something i didnt know before that mars had most likely had an atmosphere, but because of the gravity or whatever it over billions of years it sort of dissipated into space. So they could have had alien life years ago. Life 3 billion years ago. It would have exactly. But it would have been organisms. Been like little organisms. Sure you dont have nick im sure you dont have much to say. Space bores you, doesnt bores doesnt it . It bores me. Does. Our producers it does. And our producers are to me by are trying to hurt me by including its i dont including it. But its i dont really believe all this, this idea billions old, idea that billions of years old, its christianity. Its an attack on christianity. Its. Its unproven. You think the earth is only 4000 years old at most evolutions been proven. Evolutions never been proven. Andrew, i know youre starting the a minute. The dinosaurs again in a minute. Well maybe to that. Watch matthew is watch out. Matthew sweet is clipping right . Yeah. Clippiflg it up, right . Yeah. , clippiflg it up, right . Yeah. Okay, well, clippiflg it up, right . Yeah. Okay, well, the yeah. Okay, well, look, the show nearly over, but before show is nearly over, but before we were to have we go, were going to have a quick look at thursdays front pages. The daily mail are pages. And so the daily mail are leading on thursday with have we finally turned corner on finally turned a corner on mortgage misery . The guardian is mortgage misery . The guardian is running cost of living running with cost of living crisis forces. Student covid crisis forces. Student covid generation to live at home. The daily express is leading with threat to quit rights treaty if rwanda blocked again in the mirror has itv hit by more bullying claims. The i is running with new talks on tented camp for migrants in essex amid tory splits on crackdown on the metro has bbc comic held for historic offences is thats all weve got time for but thank you to my wonderful guest josh howie and nick dixon. And thanks to josh wearing that lovely cap. Leo is here tomorrow with Louis Schaffer paul cox. Thats at schaffer and paul cox. Thats at 11 00. And if youre watching headliners at 5 am. In the morning for the repeat, please stay tuned because now its time for breakfast. The temperatures rising. 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