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Than yesterday. Heres rachel ayers from the met office. Ayers from the met office. It was an unsettled start to the weekend with storm anthony crossing the uk, but it looks like a drier and brighter second half for us across the uk. Join me later for a full forecast with all the details. Well its lovely to be with you today. Im anne diamond. Im anne diamond. And im Martin Daubney and this breakfast on. Gb news. This is breakfast on. Gb news. So you have been a sunbed hugger . Well not only that, anne. I must confess, i deploy my children like fagin. I send them children like fagin. I send them down early towels on sunbeds before breakfast, and i even direct them from the balcony. No, not that yet. That great. So isend no, not that yet. That great. So i send the kids down because they wake at the crack of dawn and theyre penalty for that is go and get me a lounger. I must confess i do it, but i see. Thats not so bad in that what youre doing is just claiming your right early. But would you hold on to that sunbed if you other things to do if you had other things to do and leave with your and leave it vacant with your towel on it for maybe hours . Yes. Oh yes. You shouldnt do that during a lunch break or a siesta. Siesta. I want to make sure if i if i get there early doors, thats my territory. Thats my the entire day. Im afraid its finders keepers. I get very, very edgy about this. I need my space. About this. I need my space. I need to get it sorted out. Well, ive. I understand that, but its not right. You must feel guilty about it, surely . Not remotely. Not remotely. Not remotely. Because when you leave to go for a lunch or a siesta, for heavens sake, a siesta, you leave your stuff on and you walk away. Do you not feel other people looking at you and judging you . I tend to wear the sunglasses and just just walk quickly. Ashamed . Yeah yeah. Well, you feel a sense of shame in what you do, but i hide my shame behind sunglasses. But a paperback novel. You dont mind paperback novel. You dont mind if it gets stolen . A towel, if it gets stolen . A towel, a hotel towel . I feel it. If you. If you havent sent the children out at the beginning and youre looking out balcony and youre out from your balcony and youre thinking, really to thinking, oh, i really want to spend in the sun, spend the morning in the sun, and look down there and all and you look down there and all the are already taken, the sunbeds are already taken, does that fill you does not does that not fill you full despair . Full of despair . Well, thats why i send the kids down early. Yeah. Ill get ahead tsunami. Yeah, ahead of the tsunami. Yeah, but you you know how you know how you know how appalling is that people do appalling it is that people do it, youre doing it yourself. You cant beat them. You cant beat them. Join them. Join them. You see, thats what i wonder. There probably are. I dont i have. And ive dont think i have. And ive certainly it for certainly never left it for hours because i feel so guilty. Well, people is well, anyway, people say is unknown it. And unknown and shes done it. And nowadays take film of you. Nowadays they take film of you. But i can understand why you have fight back. If many have to fight back. If so many people are doing it in the hotel or where or the beautiful beach where you are everybodys doing it, are. If everybodys doing it, then in a way you just have to join in. Otherwise just join in. Otherwise youre just the that gets left sitting the nelly that gets left sitting on the sand. If you remember that and if you remember that excellent calling advert from years ago, became a National Years ago, it became a national thing. Brits, now the thing. The brits, now the dambusters versus the germans, it a national sport. It became a national sport. And its akin with football. And its akin with football. I a i am shocked to find that i am a i am shocked to find that it still the case. Yeah. If it is still the case. Yeah. If youve ever been a sunbed huggen youve ever been a sunbed hugger, whats your hugger, you know, whats your defence . Or did you feel ashamed . And wed love to hear from you if you were one of the people evacuated from greece from rhodes, for instance, because of the wild fires, because their Prime Minister, who is kyriakos , youre doing well. Mitsotakis thats it has said that if you were one of the people who had to be evacuated, you were affected by those wildfires. He is offering you a free week in in greece. Its an astonishing story. Its an astonishing story. He said either it is free, obviously offering it in the off season, in the spring or the fall, spring or autumn. Not not peak season, but nevertheless, its a free week in rhodes. I think an amazing i think its an amazing offer. Brilliant. I mean, there were 19,000 odd people in total evacuated. So people in total evacuated. So however many of those were brits, we dont know. If you were one of then get in were one of them, then get in touch because it looks like the Prime Minister is giving you a free in greece to give you free week in greece to give you a week. A free week. I think thats a and i think thats a brilliant move because greek Tourism Industry tourism is their main industry and to get back and so theyve got to get back and so theyve got to get back and its all in rhodes and say its all right in rhodes now. Come out and see us anytime , week. And many , some free week. And how many people would probably extend that well. Once theyre that as well. And once theyre out also , i mean, out there and also, i mean, its such wonderful and its such a wonderful place and its so theres much to so historic. Theres so much to see that it doesnt matter if you were going off you were going in the off season. Actually, i think i think first and foremost, think on the first and foremost, what a fantastic piece of pr. What a fan tastic piece of pr. Yeah, you know, its a great, great gesture. Secondly, it sends message open sends out the message were open for you dont for business. You know, dont worry. Life goes on worry. You know, life goes on and free week, an thats and a free week, an thats absolutely. I know. Its just brilliant, i think its just brilliant, actually. Would you go or are actually. So would you go or are you worried there will be wildfires the future when wildfires in the future when weather the other thing . Weather is the other thing . Were going to talk about a lot today . Yeah. How how were you affected yesterday . Us affected yesterday . Both of us in separate homes sprung affected yesterday . Both of us in yesterday homes sprung affected yesterday . Both of us in yesterday. Omes sprung leaks yesterday. Yeah, i had a leak from the window onto the table. My veneers lifted, which ive now window onto the table. My ven to s lifted, which ive now window onto the table. My ven to use ted, which ive now window onto the table. My ven to use an, which ive now window onto the table. My ven to use an ironich ive now window onto the table. My ven to use an iron to ive now window onto the table. My ven to use an iron to get� now window onto the table. My ven to use an iron to get back got to use an iron to get back down. I quite like doing things like that, actually. Ive a bay window and ive got a bay window and there was leak. Was water there was a leak. It was water running the side. So i put running down the side. So i put a running down the side. So i put 6 lug running down the side. So i put a jug underneath it, half a jug full thats a lot, full of water. Thats a lot, thats a litre jug. So its half a water. Thats a big a litre of water. Thats a big leak. That is big worrying leak. That is a big worrying leak. That is a big worrying leak. Yeah so how did the storm affect you yesterday . Id love leak. Yeah so how did the storm affect yfrom sterday . Id love leak. Yeah so how did the storm affect yfrom you. Ay . Id love leak. Yeah so how did the storm affect yfrom you. Iy . Id love leak. Yeah so how did the storm affect yfrom you. I think love leak. Yeah so how did the storm affect yfrom you. I think weve to hear from you. I think weve got better news ahead , though, got better news ahead, though, from weather, especially from the weather, especially if you page of the you read the front page of the daily there it is. They daily star. There it is. They report that people have actually spotted shiny of fire in spotted a shiny ball of fire in the sky. Whats that thing . Whats that . I dont know what it is, but, you know. But they saying that but they also saying that apparently weather is really apparently the weather is really going warm during the week going to warm up during the week at end of the week anyway. At the end of the week anyway. And to have proper and were going to have proper sunshine, and heat at the sunshine, shine and heat at the end week if we believe end of the week if we believe them look into it them. Well, well look into it and and find whether and try and find out whether thats case, because thats really the case, because when its on the front page, you never quite know what to think. Yeah. Was yesterdays story yeah. What was yesterdays story yesterday was joe pasquale was was impaled a moose in skegness. Yeah. Which took a lot of trying to get your head around. In fact, i dont think we managed during the entire managed it no. During the entire show. The weathers show. But anyway, the weathers back. Hurrah the weathers back. Would you consider going to rhodes if youd rhodes if youd been . If youd had because of the had to evacuate because of the fires, would you go back and. And what was the other thing . First yeah i cant remember first one . Yeah i cant remember now. Oh, no. Have you been a sunbed hugger . Yeah, of course. Yeah, thats. How do you justify that . Love to hear from you that . Id love to hear from you. At gb news news. Com. Yeah. News at gb news news. Com. Yeah you got it. Should we move on . Yes. The home secretary has accused keir starmer of trying to sabotage her attempts to end the illegal immigration crisis. Yes, Suella Braverman claims the labour leader has a web of cronies who are blocking any effort to stop small boat crossings from calais. Which begs the question which Political Party would you trust to actually get anything done about this . Were joined now by john ashmore, the editor of cap. Good morning, john. Thanks for joining us. Thats the big question, actually. Its almost as though nobody on either side of the political divide seems to be able to actually get anything done about the migrant Channel Crossings well, the onus is certainly on the party who are actually in government to do something about it. Personally, i think whatever your views on the topic that blaming the opposition for your policies not being executed properly strikes me as pretty weak tea. And if you read the detail of Suella Braverman sort of accusation , were talking of accusation, were talking about a woman whos a lawyer who was a member of a task force advising the labour party. Um, advising the labour party. Um, and then and theres another thing about a Labour Councillor who works for a, a sort of pro asylum group. This does not amount , in my asylum group. This does not amount, in my view, to a web of cronies. Amount, in my view, to a web of cronies. Its a couple of people. Obviously the conservatives are trying to play on the idea of kind of lefty lawyers who dont like the rwanda plan. And so on, and perhaps theres something there. Theyve, you know, this does resonate know, i think this does resonate with some people. But my overall with some people. But my overall view is that if youve been in government for more than 13 years, then you have to carry the can for your own policies. Theyve already got the nationality borders bill, nationality and borders bill, which which was passed which was act, which was passed last year , got an illegal last year, got an illegal immigration through. Immigration bill going through. Now, you know, its ultimately up to the home secretary herself and her colleagues to carry things through. Theres also an element, i think, of. Some people think that theres a sort of cynical element, which is that they they always knew there would be this kind of legal backlash. That part of backlash. And that was part of the the first place. The plan in the first place. I dont necessarily agree with that, but i can see why people do think that. John, we saw couple well, john, we saw a couple of weeks after the uxbridge of weeks ago after the uxbridge by election, out cchq by election, it came out of cchq that they looking for these that they were looking for these wedge to create wedge issues to create deliberate points of difference between tories and labour. Between the tories and labour. And be braverman is not and to be fair, braverman is not only of the weber only accusing of the weber cronies, shes directly attacking this attacking starmer in this exclusive today, which on the exclusive today, which is on the front of the express front page of the sunday express. Shes saying that starmer is successfully campaigned to halt this governments attempts to deport vile foreign criminals, including rapists and murderers , which is a total betrayal of their victims. Shes, of course, referring to a flight in 2020 destined for jamaica. Yeah, this destined for jamaica. Yeah, this is pretty feisty stuff. Do you think this is going to set the pattern for this topic now ahead of the next general election. Of the next general election. Yeah, i think yeah. As you say, after the uxbridge by election there was there was a piece in the sunday times just after that about how you know, the conservatives were changing tack and going for more of these kinds of some people call them kinds of some people call them kind of anti woke , but i think kind of anti woke, but i think its broader than that. Um, its broader than that. Um, yeah. I its broader than that. Um, yeah. I mean , its i personally yeah. I mean, its i personally dont think its a great tactic. I think that people are more concerned about bread and butter issues at the moment, particularly inflation, the cost of living. I think if you are talking about you know, Keir Starmers attitudes or whatever to a flight three years ago and people are wondering why they cant pay their bills and so on, they may wonder why youre talking about that and not the more pressing matter. But yeah, i dont think we should be too kind of pearl clutching about this. Politics has always been a bit of a blood sport and there are plenty of people who say this is perfectly fair game. You know, labour will go after tory politicians in exactly the same way and its always been thus. I just wonder whether its actually , you know, whatever actually, you know, whatever your scruples , whether its your scruples, whether its actually going to be an effective electoral tactic, particularly when you think that rishi sunaks whole , you know, rishi sunaks whole, you know, reputation nye bevan and uh, presentation since hes been Prime Minister has been of the competent, calm , you know, competent, calm, you know, steady hand on the tiller. If he now switches and tries to become a kind of culture warrior, it might look a bit strange. He might look a bit strange. He also just doesnt to my mind, he doesnt have, um , that sort of , doesnt have, um, that sort of, if you like, energy about him as a politician. He doesnt come across as someone who is deeply invested in the culture war or invested in the culture war or in these sorts of issues. So in these sorts of issues. So i wonder if theres an element of kind of authenticity thats lacking there as well. And its worth pointing out to echo your point, an if this is a question of capability , its okay for of capability, its okay for braverman to attack song. But the fact of the matter is that we had a record amount of crossings in july 3299 people made the journey in 63 boats, an average of 52 migrants per vessel. Average of 52 migrants per vessel. So its all fine and vessel. So its all fine and well for the conservatives to attack the labour party. The fact of the matter is a key pledge, one of those five pledges, john, was to stop the boats and on that the conservative lives are measurably failing. Measurably failing. Yeah, i mean, thats exactly my point, martin. Its that , you my point, martin. Its that, you know, theyve stuck their colours to the mast with, as you say, with those five pledges. Um which some of which seemed quite unambitious at the time, you know, halving inflation. Everyone thought, oh, thatll be easy. And its not proving the case. So its a good example of, you know, be careful what you wish but yeah, as say, wish for. But yeah, as you say, i mean, its their asylum system at end of the day at the at the end of the day its funny if you go on if you did a bit of i did a bit of research about the illegal immigration bill and if you go on government website on on the government website on their it says the their own website, it says the asylum broken. You asylum system is broken. You know, youre saying that know, if youre saying that about own system, about your own your own system, you know that then people are going to wonder why youre trying to blame it on the opposition. Absolutely. Especially to turn around and say that the system is broken when youre the people whove been in government for last 13 years. I mean, for the last 13 years. I mean, they might have a point if theyd only just got into government. Know, for government. But, you know, for 13 could have fixed 13 years they could have fixed it. They seem to be it. And now they seem to be flailing blaming flailing around, blaming the other. But equally, mean, other side. But equally, i mean, labour night came labour last night came out saying the tories arent saying that the tories arent doing job properly. They doing the job properly. They havent made a success of this. Havent made a success of this. So although you say it may not be top of the of the issues for the next election, its certainly going to be in there. And i just wonder what voters are going to feel when they are about to cast their vote if this issue important to them, who issue is important to them, who would most to get would they trust most to get anything done about this . What do think . Do you think . No one is my honest answer. I think theres a complete kind of systemic long term failure here. Some of its kind of logistical. There just arent enough staff processing asylum claims. I should just say. I dont think its not a priority for voters. I think i think stopping the boats is really clearly a priority for voters. What priority for voters. What i question is whether making these sort of slightly spurious accusations about the opposition is a good tactic. I think focusing on it and saying that, you know, they dont have a plan, for example , is perfectly plan, for example, is perfectly legitimate. And i think a lot of people will look at labour and keir starmer and say he is clearly not passionate about this issue. He would he doesnt really seem to have any alternative to the rwanda plan. I know, stick on the i think, you know, stick on the substantive stuff theres substantive stuff and theres a perfectly legitimate argument to be but know, saying be made. But you know, saying that kind of plot a that theres a kind of plot or a web cronies, to me just web of cronies, to me just sounds a bit of desperate. Sounds a bit sort of desperate. Yeah, prove it. Is the response, really, isnt it . Response, really, isnt it . John, thank you very much indeed for joining us so early in the forjoining us so early in the morning this sunday morning. Thank you. Yeah. And it does raise you raise an excellent point, though. And its about trust. Its capability. And its about capability. And i disagree with john. I think it will be a huge issue. It is for some, particularly in some areas of britain. I in some areas of britain. I think its an enormous issue. Red well, wall. Red wall, well, the red wall. But also you live anywhere but also if you live anywhere near where theyre planning to sort of house migrants or in some think you start to some way, i think you start to feel strongly about it. And feel very strongly about it. And while want there to while you want you want there to be proper just fair system. Be a proper just fair system. But there seem to be any but there doesnt seem to be any system at at the moment. It system at all at the moment. It seems be completely broken system at all at the moment. It seerls be completely broken system at all at the moment. It seerls b maybe it never really worked. And its just sort of escalated of control. Escalated out of control. I mean, it was the number one topic that drove the brexit referendum all those ago. Referendum all those years ago. I a decade at least i mean, for a decade at least now, were a proper now, we were denied a proper conversation came conversation then brexit came take control that hasnt take back control. That hasnt happened. No, here we are again. Ill tell what. And it feels ill tell you what. And it feels like groundhog day sometimes on this really and you it really does. And you wonder know, in ten wonder whether, you know, in ten years were at years time, if were still at it, well talking about it, well be talking about exactly the same thing. I dont know, be a bit tired by then, but do let us know. Actually if you to put your tick you were about to put your tick in a a box at an election and in a in a box at an election and this is important to you, this issue is important to you, who do you think you can trust most actually anything most to actually get anything done it . Id love to most to actually get anything done it . Id love to hear done about it . Id love to hear from you. Gb views at gbnews. Com now how about another subject that might get you going . Covid it seems that covid has disappeared from our daily life , but experts are warning that apparently we are flying blind about how infections could play out this coming winter. This autumn. Yeah. And theyve also warned that decline in surveillance of new variants could put extra pressure on the nhs cases increasing across the country. Joining us now from West Yorkshire is data and covid expert tim white. A very good morning to you, tim. Do you agree that actually we are sort of flying blind into what could be another crisis . Be another crisis . Good morning, both of you. Yes i do, to be honest. Dan, there is a distinct lack of monitoring. So therefore a distinct lack of data. Theres just pretty much circumstantial evidence. And we can track hospital admissions. Evidence. And we can track hospital admissions. We dont hospital admissions. We dont really know how deep covid is running or will run in the future. And i think another good point is that we dont have enough data year on year. Its still a very new disease in medical terms, and therefore we cannot say with certainty the sort of things that we can about flu and we can make quite a good projection of how many people will suffer from flu and how busy our hospitals will get. And busy our hospitals will get. And the fact that covid has gone down in headlines and the down in the headlines and the all the restrictions have been eased, including in eased, of course, including in that that many people wont realise is that we are just simply not doing the depth of research that we used to do, the monitoring , research that we used to do, the monitoring, as i say, the research that we used to do, the monitoring , as i say, the office monitoring, as i say, the office of National Statistics used to give good figures about how give very good figures about how many people were infected and from that we could extrapolate how people would become how many people would become very ill and how people very ill and how many people would need serious care in hospitals. And its all do hospitals. And its all to do with trying to ensure that our hospitals dont have another crisis and winter, crisis this autumn and winter, as suggested. As you suggested. Its important to yeah, tim, its important to maintain a sense of perspective when talk about things like when we talk about things like this, because course, you this, because of course, you know, covid gets everybody scared when we look at the scared again when we look at the average deaths at the moment, its the last its very low, 63, the last seven days, and thats with a 26 decrease. Its week on week. So its good to be mindful, but we dont want to get into the realms again. Do we, of like scaring the bejesus out of everybody . Everybody . No, absolutely. I think its important to say that. I think this is pretty much a debate thats being had by experts and some of the newspapers may jump on and say try to cause some on it and say try to cause some hysteria almost. But youre absolutely right. Its it is still a disease and it will still a disease and it will still kill people , as will flu, still kill people, as will flu, as will a lot of other things. But there isnt a pandemic. As will a lot of other things. But there isnt a pandemic. What but there isnt a pandemic. What we do worry about is , as has we do worry about is, as has been said for , what, three years been said for, what, three years now and maybe well be talking about this subject for the next ten years as well, the possible emergence of new variants. And it is important to find those early. It is important to find out whether vaccines that out whether the vaccines that we have and big unknown have worked and the big unknown coming this winter is a lot coming into this winter is a lot of people probably wont get another will just think another booster will just think that and that its gone away now. And will that contribute to a rise in a dangerous rise . But were in a dangerous rise . But were not talking about, thankfully , not talking about, thankfully, the of you and or the likes maybe of you and i or most of our viewers, but its the most vulnerable are the very elderly, compromised elderly, those with compromised immune systems or co morbidities. But yet at the moment it is at a very low level. We have to say that. But when schools go back, when colleges go back, when people return after Summer Holidays , return after Summer Holidays, having lot of mixing with having done a lot of mixing with other communities abroad, often thats see the thats when we could see the biggest rise. And people biggest rise. And as people start indoors , as more start to mix indoors, as more and more, as we say goodbye to this glorious summer were this glorious summer that were all right now. All enjoying right now. Absolutely. Yeah, absolutely. Yeah, absolutely. Thanks very much indeed tim, thanks very much indeed for to say for that. It is important to say to everybody that we dont want to everybody that we dont want to scare anyone, but you know , to scare anyone, but you know, it just seems so weird to be talking about it again. It has become a bit of a toxic subject. People have got opinions and their own very, very fierce opinions about covid. Now and so were not its never going to be the same again. Were not going to stand, are for we, anyone from government saying you shall not go out, you must wear masks, people have opinion about people now have an opinion about that and theyll do what the heck right. The heck they think is right. The only thing think people who only thing i think people who are very, very worried about it are very, very worried about it are those whove got or are those whove got old or vulnerable at home and Vulnerable People at home and are worried for them. Are worried for them. And thats all fine and proper. I think people now, i mean, have so many boosters mean, have had so many boosters , think youre right. If , but i think youre right. If we return to any form of we saw a return to any form of lockdown mask mandates, lockdown or even mask mandates, i thered be like mass i think thered be like mass non compliance. Non compliance. Very different reaction to it. I think we had a long time. But look, its great to stay informed and to stay safe. Absolutely. Now you to absolutely. Now you want to know about weather. I want know about the weather. I want to know about the weather, because there thoughts that because there are thoughts that it be getting it might actually be getting better. August. We better. Its august. Should we find that warm feeling find out that warm feeling inside from boxt boilers proud sponsors of weather on. Gb news. Sponsors of weather on. Gb news. Good morning. My name is rachel ayers and welcome to your latest gb news Weather Forecast brought to you by the met office. Well, today will be a more of a day of sunshine and showers with lighter winds around than we around than what we saw yesterday. Yesterdays storm anthony is already moving away to southeast but could still to the southeast but could still bnng to the southeast but could still bring blustery bring some cloud and blustery conditions to parts of east anglia this morning. Anglia through this morning. Elsewhere, well cloud and elsewhere, well see cloud and showers soon bubbling up and these could be heavy in a few places across scotland. Northern england and with a chance of the odd thunderstorm across Northern Ireland. Were feeling much more pleasant today as compared pleasant today as well compared to with those to yesterday with those temperatures just creeping into the in the south. Now, the low 20s in the south. Now, as we go through the rest of this afternoon and into the evening, well see those showers starting to ease, becoming more confined to Northern Areas and plenty of clear spells around now with clear spells and lighter winds. Well see those temperatures dropping just a little bit more readily tonight at so towns and cities generally clinging those double clinging on to those double figures. More widely be figures. But more widely be seeing into the mid seeing temperatures into the mid single figures rural areas. Single figures in rural areas. This will mean itll be a bright but chilly start to the new week. Plenty of sunshine around there could still be the odd shower developing heaviest across northern and eastern parts of scotland. But with those light winds and that sunshine around feeling even more pleasant as we go into the new week with those temperatures just starting to climb a little bit more into the 20s with a high of 23 in the east. And that warm feeling inside from boxt boilers proud sponsors of weather on. Gb news. Well, dont forget, wed love to hear from you. Vaiews gbnews. Com. Theres plenty to be talking about today in the. He absolutely confessed to being a sunbed hugger. Totally and you didnt seem that much ashamed , i have to say. Much ashamed, i have to say. Im actually secretly proud of it. And now publicly proud of it. Well, its because you feel youre fighting back against something thats unjust the something thats unjust in the first something thats unjust in the firs take back control. Take back control. Take back control. More and more of these but more and more of these Hotels Resort managers hotels and resort managers should pool man who goes should have a pool man who goes around and says, youre only allowed hog a sunbed 2 or allowed to hog a sunbed for 2 or 3 and then we will remove 3 hours and then we will remove your belongings. 3 hours and then we will remove youyeah, ngings. 3 hours and then we will remove youyeah, ngiryou bribe those yeah, but you can bribe those people. Really . Yeah people. Oh, really . Yeah know too much about this i you can. You can buy him a couple of beers in the evening and thats yeah, okay. And say, thats my. Yeah, okay. Si, yeah, ive got all si, senor. Yeah, ive got all the angles. Sunbed hoggers. Have you the sunbed hoggers. Have you ever been sunbed hog . Dont ever been a sunbed hog . Dont you feel ashamed or do you feel that you were pushed into that behaviour because everybody else is it . And all, you is doing it . And after all, you have , youve paid your money for have, youve paid your money for your. If you cant your holiday. And if you cant lie sunbed and enjoy the lie on a sunbed and enjoy the sun, the germans remember the sun. The germans started it and we had to fight back. Well, thats one of putting it. One way of putting it. Could be very, i think that could be very, very awkward. I mentioned the wall. I mentioned the wall. Im sure you will. Well it is a its an ongoing the a its an ongoing war at the moment, dont know who are moment, but i dont know who are the worst people at it. But id love to hear your view on it. If youve stories, do youve got any good stories, do let because we need let us know because we need a bit of cheering up this sunday. Do you know the weathers not cheered up we need you cheered up yet, so we need you to help us. Please do. I always love hear where you are love to hear where you are watching us and how and why. So do get in touch. Vaiews gbnews. Com well be back with you very good morning to you. If youre just joining us, its 626, but you probably dont need me to tell you that the alarm clocks probably told you that. Weve had our first email. The very first email of the show is from nom pen, the capital of cambodia. Morning, anne. And martin. Were watching you from nom pen. And thats from gary. Nom pen. And thats from gary. Thank you so much, gary. What an interesting place to be. Good do you live good morning. Do you live there you visiting or what . Mm. And would you hog a sunbed . Oh, dear. Martin i have to tell you that youre not going. Youre behaviour is absolutely appalling , according absolutely appalling, according to. Where is it, ross . Morning, ross. Ross says im sorry , but ross. Ross says im sorry, but putting your towels on sun beds to hog them is ignorant and scummy. Well, ross, ive been called worse. But. Well, ross, ive been called worse. But. But. But. But. I do admit its a great divider. You know. But i just think if you know. But i just think if you cant beat them, join them. And. And im going to come out and proud. I deploy my children like the artful dodger. I send them down. Do it before breakfast. Breakfast is your reward. If you cant beat them, join. But some cant beat them, join. But some of these people here, anne. His he hogs the but he puts his he hogs the sunbed or maybe via your children and then keeps his stuff on that sunbed while he goes siesta. Goes to siesta. Do. A day trip i do. Or even a day trip sometimes. What . Yeah, yeah, sometimes. What . Yeah, yeah, yeah. Sometimes. What . Yeah, yeah, yeah. I want somewhere to come yeah. I want somewhere to come and have my sundowner look. Especially if you get guys especially if you get the guys on the payroll who take care of the by the pool. The towels by by, by the pool. Im sorry. Im sorry. No, thats not on. That really isnt ashleys been really isnt on. Ashleys been in ashley. He said in touch. Hi, ashley. He said while and my were in our while me and my mate were in our 20s, visited and if 20s, we visited majorca, and if we were out for a night out on our way in, wed get our sunbeds for the next ahead. For the next day ahead. You see, ive even. Ive got standards. Too standards. Thats a step too far. Oh, really . The night before yeah. Mean. I mean, before . Yeah. I mean. I mean, you the night before is you know, the night before is too much its grown adults. Too much and its grown adults. Grown you can your grown men. You can use your children, grown lad children, but a grown lad shouldnt be doing this. Tony, suffolk would tony, in suffolk would probably with you. He probably agree with you. He says, all done the towels says, weve all done the towels on before breakfast. On the sunbeds before breakfast. And leave them there and yes, we leave them there while lunch early while we go for lunch early birds the worms. Weve been birds get the worms. Weve been doing years. Too many doing it for years. Too many tourists, not enough sunbeds. Tony. Completely with you tourists, not enough sunbeds. That. Completely with you tourists, not enough sunbeds. That. You completely with you tourists, not enough sunbeds. That. You know, letely with you tourists, not enough sunbeds. That. You know, youve ith you tourists, not enough sunbeds. That. You know, youve got you tourists, not enough sunbeds. That. You know, youve got tor on that. You know, youve got to get of the tsunami. And get ahead of the tsunami. And heres one here. Tim says, why not hug . Hog birds get not hug . Why hog some birds get out the place youre out and explore the place youre visiting explore the visiting and explore the culture . Well, a good culture . Well, thats a good point. Can do both. Point. But you can do both. You can do both. If you well, you can do both. If you hog sunbed and then you go off hog a sunbed and then you go off and at a pyramid or and look at a pyramid or something. Yeah. Know, something. Yeah. You know, thats keep the sunbed thats not on to keep the sunbed away somebody why away from somebody else. Why not . You ask you. I think i think thats terrible. I really do. Was day yesterday do. How was your day yesterday dunng do. How was your day yesterday during the storm . Juliet says for us, professional gardeners , for us, professional gardeners, the summer is our busiest season. So the storm was really hindering work wise. But on the plus side , the soil is softer. Plus side, the soil is softer. After all that rain and makes weeding easier and ive got to say, juliet, im actually of an age now where i like it. I always say its good for the garden and i laid some turf andifs the garden and i laid some turf and its resplendent, its verdant. My lawn has never verdant. My lawn has never looked better. So in many ways, thank you for the rain. I used to have astroturf and i had it pulled up over the winter. Yeah. And ive put turf down and grass grows, doesnt it . Yeah. Yeah. I mean, it needs mowing and, and it grows particularly under this sort of rainfall. It is. And i havent been able to get the lawnmower out so its about a foot high, knee high before you know it. Yeah. Yeah. Its to yeah. Ns its going to be impossible to going to have to to mow. Im going to have to employ a sheep or something. Yeah. Em em anyway, at exactly 630, youre breakfast youre watching breakfast here on gb news. Lets move on to a subject that really does concern a lot of people at the moment and maybe we should all be concerned. Its about computers and ai because computers can now already compose poetry. Really good stuff. Sometimes pass medical exams and write lots of computer code. But can they computer code. But can they actually use their super power to help us all to become rich and famous . Were going to be finding out about this now from our special guest here because he knows much more about al, i think, than than any of us. He is actually a futurist and a great friend of the programme at the moment. Andrew eborn, lovely to talk to you. Joy to see both of you. Yes, ive witnessed this. Yes, ive witnessed this. Yes, ive witnessed this. Whichever program it is that actually writes stuff for you. Chatgpt yeah, and its replacing journalists. So whats replacing journalists. So whats happening is in australia , for happening is in australia, for example, theyve got about 3000 stories about local news is being written by ai and whats not being made up. Its actually being, its being written so, so theyre getting the reporting and its been used for all sorts of things. As you say, it can compose poetry. We had being done. Poetry. We had songs being done. Youve had the fake drake collaborating with the weekend and forth, and it and so on and so forth, and it can be used for all sorts of interesting things. You get pictures done using ai, and you might pope dressed might remember the pope dressed in jacket whilst in a pufferjacket and whilst the might like the devil might might like prada, the prefers a puffer prada, the pope prefers a puffer. Yeah. So it is really, really interesting stuff. But theres a couple of things which have happenedin couple of things which have happened in every day. Theres an ai story and whats happened is old elon musk the is a good old elon musk and the musketeers. Hes bought musketeers. Hes just bought acas. Com so it now means the acas. Com so it now means the domain name the domain name and he bought it from openai ai and they bought it previously for about 11 million. So just for a domain name is tremendous. About 11 million. So just for a domain name is tremendous. But domain name is tremendous. But youve also got this whole things about whats going to happen with the toy market and so on and so forth. So this christmas, i predict that virtually all toys will now have an ai element. And every day. An ai element. And every day. What sort of things . What sort of things . Well, youve got interactive many ago might many years ago you might remember was barbie. Remember there was barbie. Whatever happened to her. So its always a thrill. But they its always a thrill. But they had exactly. They had this sort of toy which you could talk to. It was called hello, barbie. And it would basically learn about your and everything your child and everything else. And security concerns and there were security concerns , and there were security concerns i , and there were security concerns , i can tell you, in the same way sort of people way as weve got sort of people are concerned about, china will use cars be able to use electric cars and be able to monitor. In todays monitor you. In todays telegraph, have exactly telegraph, you can have exactly that with these ai that sort of stuff with these ai toys because what will happen is youll relation ship youll develop a relation ship with toys. Your to with these toys. Your chat to them your and so on, them about your life and so on, and forth, and they will get and so forth, and they will get to child a better to know the child a lot better than of other people. Than a lot of other people. Thats not a great leap of faith. Tamagotchi started faith. Like tamagotchi started that the 90s, but this that back in the 90s, but this story is fascinating. So the turing the turing. Turing test. Yes the turing. Turing test. Yes the turing. Turing test. Yes the turing. Turing test is basically where a mathematician in the 50s said when or when a computer writer when i or when a computer writer can converse and pass as a human will have passed the kind of Tipping Point of not being able to tell the difference between machines and man, this story is pegged machines and man, this story is pegged on the fact that a new turing test is ais ability to make a fortune. And the test is this give ai 100,000. Can it turn it into a Million Dollars by speculating . Yeah, i and it was exactly it was a report in in the times and that alan turing who is on the back of a £50 note he was the guy who in the 50 i think you have those i, i printed it this morning. Its got to be good. The principle was this is that if you could fool somebody into thinking they were dealing with a real person. Thats what alan turing said with his brilliant mind basically thats mind then basically thats passed the imitation game, this new test, which is about artificial intelligence. Can it make fortune around make a fortune turning around and saying , make a fortune turning around and saying, its great, you can do poetry and stuff like that if we give 100,000, could you we give you 100,000, could you make a million . Make that into a million . Yeah. And talked about basically and they talked about basically coming up with products, coming up marketing campaigns, up with marketing campaigns, using so using that sort of stuff. So its for power for good, even its for a power for good, even opening accounts, even opening Bank Accounts, even opening Bank Accounts, even opening accounts. Opening a Bank Accounts. Open account nigel i open a bank account nigel farage with cutesy couldnt farage not with cutesy couldnt but it might be able to know but but it might be able to know its that sort of principle because need to be able to because they need to be able to run a business. And i always say that i if were talking about it here, somebody already doing. Were talking about it here, somebodare already doing. Were talking about it here, somebodare already|lready doing. Were talking about it here, somebodare already doing doing. Were talking about it here, somebodare already doing it. ing. They are already doing it. They are already doing it. The reality is exactly so the reality is exactly that. And as you know, that. Its and as you know, i talk around the world about al and its possibilities. Its understanding the understanding what the technology it is an technology can do. It is an incredibly tool. And incredibly powerful tool. And every day you the every single day you get the basically get basically principles. You get Great Stories and threatening stories about al and so on and so forth. But you also get some really powerful ones and it was Stephen Hawking who said its our greatest achievement, our greatest human achievement, but the biggest but also potentially the biggest existential threat. And i think its understanding those risks, understand the capabilities that we can really, really do that. But using it in but i think using it in business, basically speeding up things like in the nhs, you know, were talking about waiting talking waiting times, youre talking about being to about people not being able to chat a gp. Well, chat gpt chat to a gp. Well, chat gpt will give you the time. It can give you basic information, some powerful stuff that as well, havent they . And theyve found that actually to a robot actually if you talk to a robot gp, youre likely to get as good an answer as you would from a human gp. If not better, because it can do it faster. So it could cut down an appointment time, down six minutes down to down from six minutes down to 2 or 3. And the university of california in san diego, they did exactly that they did exactly that and they basically got doctors to assess did exactly that and they bas answerst doctors to assess did exactly that and they bas answers givenrs to assess did exactly that and they bas answers given byto assess did exactly that and they bas answers given by a assess did exactly that and they bas answers given by a realess did exactly that and they bas answers given by a real gp the answers given by a real gp and that given by chatgpt and they worked out it had more empathy be and could be more accurate because can accurate because obviously can spend and and so forth. Ive got one final question for you, andrew, and that is this i can make everybody this if i can make everybody a millionaire. Will cash to millionaire. Yes. Will cash to cease have any value . Well, is interesting. Well, it is interesting. Well, it is interesting. Said earlier, and you you said earlier, and if you do it, if you find it becomes meaningless, well, everybodys got becomes worthless. And the question is, what do you with your time . And you do with your time . And thats the interesting thing. And i would finish on to and what i would to finish on to tie all beautifully with your tie it all beautifully with your story is that you story about sunbeds is that you can vr headsets you can get vr headsets where you dont need worry about towels dont need to worry about towels and on and forth. You can and so on and so forth. You can travel world, is not travel the world, which is not just people who cant just good for people who cant get very its very good for get away very its very good for people who are very lonely at home and so forth. So home and so on and so forth. So one of the Great Stories in todays paper is exactly about that, about vr headsets, you that, about vr headsets, how you can into different can be taken into a different world and youre going to experience the periods you experience the periods and you dont send. Martin down dont need to send. Martin down with early the with his towels early in the morning. Will get same. Morning. So it will get same. That will never be the same. That will never be the same. Lie on a sunbed with a headset and look at the pyramids quite the same is it . Quite the same thing, is it . Know whether to worry i dont know whether to worry about it or what do you about it or not. What do you think . Vaiews gbnews. Com. Welcome back. Youre watching and listening to breakfast with anne and martin. Weve already got some lovely emails coming in. Well go through them a bit later on. Actually, sticking up for you as a sunbed hugger. Nice. Nice. Apparently. Apparently, according to grant at sandals, if you go to sandals , the if you go to sandals, the resort, if you have a butler there, apparently you can pay for a butler. You can get your for a butler. You can get your butlers going to the beds at sun beds at 6 am. And putting towels and books on them and hogging them for you and you can have a little reserved sign, apparently, how the other half cheat. Tips cheat. Grant says tip tips count, you get my drift. Count, if you get my drift. Yeah, exactly. Yeah. Send there free. I send the kids there free. I send the kids there free. Love to have butler. Id love to have a butler. Id love to have a butler. Butler Service Butler at sandals. Yeah. Very got called very poor. I got called ignorant and scummy earlier. Yes if youve got yes, but if youve got a butler, youre not ignorant or scummy, youre just rich. Youre a youre a posh hog. A posh, youre a posh hog. Should we have a look at the front pages of the sunday papers for lets go to sunday for you . Lets go to the sunday telegraph. First choice. China will electric cars to spy on will use electric cars to spy on britain, but its one to think about. Nice bit of conspiracy. Nice bit of conspiracy. And in the express, as weve talked about already, this morning, sabotage, thats the accusation against keir starmer that trying to plans that hes trying to stop plans to boats. To stop the boats. Meanwhile , the independent meanwhile, the independent accuses the tories of cooking the to cut official the books to cut official asylum. Asylum numbers and the sensational soaraway star reveals a shiny ball of fire has been spotted in the sky. I know a strange thing saying summer is finally set to arrive with a 30 degree heat blast and those are your front pages. Those are your front pages. All right, lets look inside. Or all around them, actually. Now joining us this morning, editor of spiked tom slater, and author and broadcaster nikki hodgson. Very much for hodgson. Thanks very much for joining us. First of all, either of a sunbed hugger . Of you, a sunbed hugger . Nikki, tom and i were having a about in the green a chat about this in the green room, werent we . Well im room, werent we . Well on im not. But what i was saying is i dont it when people leave dont like it when people leave the towel for the whole day. The towel on for the whole day. I mind the morning banking i dont mind the morning banking it and being on it, but then when they leave the whole afternoon british, afternoon and being british, i find so hard, know, find it so hard, you know, i could just take it off put could just take it off and put my own couldnt i use it . My own on, couldnt i use it . But dont feel able to do that but i dont feel able to do that and i feel really resentful. I did it recently, a two weeks ago, and i was in greece for a few i sat there seething, few days. I sat there seething, looking bed. I was thinking, looking at bed. I was thinking, youre but i youre not coming back, but i cant it. Cant take it. And a true brit, you did and like a true brit, you did absolutely nothing about it, which beaming, exactly which is beaming, tom exactly myself to do it. Now, i cant deploy children or or anyone it or butlers or anyone else. It just because i, like just feels because i, like nikki, the person nikki, would be the person seething rage. Exactly. Yeah, it can spoil your holiday, right, tom, though, take the page of the take us to the front page of the telegraph the fact that telegraph about the fact that if were going buy electric were all going to buy electric cars we could possibly be cars and we could possibly be buying china, we could buying them from china, we could face problem. Face a problem. Yes. Yes. So concerns have been raised with this with ministers about this because the fact we this because of the fact we have this target sure that no new target to make sure that no new diesel petrol cars sold diesel or petrol cars are sold by 2030. The problem is there isnt the Domestic Production to build been build these things. Theres been a gigafactories theyre a few gigafactories as theyre called, but nearly called, pop up, but not nearly enough were enough at the moment. Were buying of them from buying a lot of them from germany, but it seems like china are really roaring ahead in this particular would particular area. And so it would be that many of the be expected that many of the cars would to cars that would be bought to meet target would be from meet this target would be from china. Issue with this is, china. The issue with this is, of course, not just electric of course, is not just electric cars, lot cars in cars, but a lot of cars in general have all kinds of technology in them. They have these cellular these things called cellular modules, your modules, which are tracking your location data. They can record audio, people can. All audio, people can. Theres all sorts of different functions. And being this and the concern being that this could some way harvested could be in some way harvested id, some about id, even some concerns about being kind of shut being able to just kind of shut off nations cars, etcetera. Off a nations cars, etcetera. Its worth saying at the moment this is kind of speculation, ian, what happen, ian, about what might happen, but its kind but at the same time, its kind of meeting those concerns about saying ultimately, really saying ultimately, do you really want overly reliant on any want to be overly reliant on any kind of external actor, particularly authoritarian particularly an authoritarian state, a state, for something which is a key your infrastructure, key part of your infrastructure, which of course be . Which this of course would be . Hand, its on the one hand, its a slight kind of silly season conspiracy story. The Conspiracy Theory story. On the other hand, though, nikki, its true to say that while the world was at the wheel, no pun was asleep at the wheel, no pun intended, up most intended, china hoovered up most of lithium now makes intended, china hoovered up most of of lithium now makes intended, china hoovered up most of of the lithium now makes intended, china hoovered up most of of the worldsm now makes intended, china hoovered up most of of the worlds batteries akes intended, china hoovered up most of of the worlds batteries. Kes most of the worlds batteries. So absolutely so theyre absolutely strategically to make strategically placed to make this sort of move. I mean, this sort of move. Yeah, i mean, we this story. We had this story. Remember when huawei, you you remember when huawei, you know, when huawei phones were first introduced were first introduced and people were like, buy because like, oh, dont buy one because youre you youre being spied upon. You know, we have a story know, every time we have a story about china providing her with some kind technology, we some kind of technology, we revisit theme. You know, some kind of technology, we revisi recentlyeme. You know, some kind of technology, we revisi recently weveou know, some kind of technology, we revisi recently weve been ow, some kind of technology, we revisi recently weve been talking most recently weve been talking about you about tiktok and whether, you know, on that. So, know, we should be on that. So, you know, its frustrating, actually , that that it kind of actually, that that it kind of keeps coming round because thats really want is thats what we really want is the are being spied the evidence, are we being spied on china . I mean, much do on by china . I mean, how much do we about the information we know about the information thats i thats being passed back . I mean, interestingly, there was that story recently about tesla. Do tesla employees do you remember tesla employees that recirculating that had been recirculating footage people from their that had been recirculating footiine people from their that had been recirculating footiin the people from their that had been recirculating footiin the office . From their that had been recirculating footiin the office . Son their that had been recirculating footiin the office . So we 1eir that had been recirculating footiin the office . So we know cars in the office . So we know that there are humans behind the technology who are potentially viewing material. And so viewing the material. And so from of view, thats from that point of view, thats actually a actually quite realistic as a concern, isnt it . But i just think we really need is think what we really need is theres of speculation at theres a lot of speculation at theres a lot of speculation at the about what the minute about china and what china us do, and we need china can see us do, and we need some facts about what is some more facts about what is actually happening. I think thats a really important point as because important point as well, because a it is sheer a lot of it is sheer speculation. The one thing that im struck by these im always struck by in these areas way we get into areas is the way we get into ourselves, a situation ourselves, into a situation where type of where on a particular type of tech a particular type of tech or a particular type of resource, were overly reliant on, state. Yeah, on, say, just one state. Yeah, we that in relation to we saw that in relation to russia and europe. Obviously and we in relation china we see it in relation to china and tech currently and and a lot of tech currently and and a lot of tech currently and a lot of concerns over taiwan because china ever invaded because if china ever invaded taiwan, where vast taiwan, thats where the vast majority the microchips that majority of the microchips that are in almost everything we own these yeah are in almost everything we own the and yeah are in almost everything we own the and yeyou think of the and when you think of the fact already talking fact that were already talking about cars, about self driving cars, you know, just call know, cars that well just call up and theyll come to up on an app and theyll come to your front and you just get your front door and you just get in back, read the paper on in the back, read the paper on the work. Yeah, that the way to work. Yeah, that if theyif the way to work. Yeah, that if they if some state decided to shut that down completely they if some state decided to shut thatheyd completely they if some state decided to shut thatheyd conaletelyin because theyd put a chip in that can a it that car, i mean can you a it would not just be inconvenient, it could be deadly. So got it could be deadly. So weve got were right this were right to heed this warning, yeah. Warning, arent we. Yeah. Being overly reliant and just being overly reliant on of one external on any kind of one external actor, poses problem actor, i think poses a problem whether theyre going to whether or not theyre going to exploit or exploit these problems or even if just going if theyre just to for going other reasons, not to other reasons, not be able to supply that at a supply you with that good at a certain point, its obviously not good policy. Move on, nikki, to foi so move on, nikki, to an foi request on sunday request by the mail on sunday into scandal, into the ongoing scandal, of course, nigel course, kickstarted by nigel farage had his farage gb news, when he had his bank terminated by bank account terminated by coutts. Its been coutts. But now its been revealed this foi million revealed in this foi 1 Million Bank Accounts been Bank Accounts have been shut since 2019. So since 2019. so yeah. So the mail on sunday is obviously doing an investigation off the back of what to farage and its what happened to farage and its kind of looking into the people that have been debunked. Its important to talk about being debunked is different to being unbanked. Weve lot of unbanked. Weve got a lot of unbanked. Weve got a lot of unbanked in this country, unbanked. Weve got a lot of unbanipeople in this country, unbanked. Weve got a lot of unbanipeople thatn this country, unbanked. Weve got a lot of unbanipeople that have country, unbanked. Weve got a lot of unbanipeople that have never ry, so its people that have never had you had a bank account. And, you know, vulnerable for know, theyre vulnerable for lots of different reasons. But being when the bank being banked is when the bank actively to shut your actively decides to shut your accounts. And for any number of reasons, often only reasons, which are often only privy bank know they privy to the bank know they dont tell you why. They dont have to tell you why. They dont have to tell you why. They dont have to tell you why. They dont have you why. And dont have to tell you why. And it that its very it seems that its very subjective. Decisions that subjective. The decisions that some making. Some of the banks making. Its quite interesting that chancellor jeremy quite interesting that chancellorjeremy hunt has said that he was refused a bank account with monzo. The online bank. Ive got an account with them actually, and he said he was because his was refused it because of his pubuc ifs was refused it because of his public its not just public profile. So its not just that i think theres this attitude that its old attitude that its the Old Fashioned cute. Fashioned because it was cute. You heritage you know, its banks of heritage that these decisions that are making these decisions actually, no new banks are just as to so we as likely to do it. So we obviously need need to really obviously need we need to really understand why make these understand why they make these decisions because it must be internal documents about why a bank been shut. Bank account has been shut. Obviously the end of obviously because at the end of the banks want to make the day, banks want to make money. And if someones got money, likely to money, theyre more likely to take i take it than not. But i mean, i find interesting because find this interesting because a few ago i was working in few years ago i was working in america and. Martin youll remember was remember this. I was i was writing a lot about the sex industry about industry. Industry and about the industry. And that and one of the stories that i kind of wrote about there was how people who worked the how people who worked in the aduu how people who worked in the adult industry had adult industry routinely had their by their Bank Accounts closed by american wells fargo, american banks like wells fargo, gold know, gold rush banks, you know, not not banks were not exactly banks that were set up with ethical money, lets say. Kind of a say. And that was kind of a really interesting story. But because was a stricture to because it was a stricture to such maybe a group such a sort of maybe a group that of marginalised that is kind of marginalised anyway people never that is kind of marginalised anywa cared. People never that is kind of marginalised anywa cared. I people never that is kind of marginalised anywacared. I meanle never that is kind of marginalised anywacared. I mean , never that is kind of marginalised anywacared. I mean , im er really cared. So i mean, im interested to kind of like following on from that. When you see sort of everyday people or political you know, political figures or, you know, people considers to people that Society Considers to be more prestigious being debunked , then it becomes really debunked, then it becomes really worrying and i just think its the fact that the banks are making decisions that you dont know about. Also point know about. And also the point thats article is i thats made in this article is i again , is making a lot of again, is making a lot of automatic decisions about who should have an account and who shouldnt. Found shouldnt. And ive always found that the fact, that with banking that the fact, you know, the past sort of ten, 20 years, fact that you 20 years, the fact that you cant a person very cant talk to a person very easily all, especially about easily at all, especially about complicated easily at all, especially about complandzd easily at all, especially about compiand stuff that, its loans and stuff like that, its an increase because an astonishing increase because the previous amount they was the previous amount they had was only 343,000. The previous amount they had was only 343,c still a lot of thats still a lot of accounts, but a third of the number. So weve seen a tripling of this phenomenon. Astonishing. Of this phenomenon. Astonishing. So according to this, yeah, the banks have closed a million accounts in just over four years. The rate of closures years. But the rate of closures is accelerating. Yes. So thats is accelerating. Yes. So thats what weve got going on. Yeah, weve got to really find out why all of those people who said, its just nigel who said, oh, its just nigel farage talking about farage. It is so much bigger than one person. Its a big problem for them as when you see those as well. When you see those facebook popping about facebook groups popping up about people who have been debunked, theyre to do theyre all sharing how to do subject requests, as subject access requests, as nigel to find out nigel farage did, to find out why is going to a big why this is going to be a big problem banks because problem for the banks because theyre own theyre going to their own process to gunged up process is going to be gunged up with people trying to ask, understandably why this understandably so, why has this happened . But theyve only got themselves happened . But theyve only got themwonder if theyll be i wonder if theyll ever be a case like with the personal case like like with the personal loan where actually money loan thing where actually money will into this, whether will come into this, whether youre banked, youre if youve been banked, youre if youve been banked, you prove its you can actually prove that its that its affected you absolutely affected your business. And you could actually sort of sue for compensation. I think that could well be the way its going really sort of class action and what i think is going to be an emerging strand of this story is theyre cancelling people who trade in cash because they dont want people cash. People to have cash. Know, it cant be it can you know, it cant be it can be hidden. It cant be tanks. It can and i think thats going can be. And i think thats going to a big sort of run of the to be a big sort of run of the mill window cleaners, chip shop owners are being debunked because the banks dont want us to cash. Absolutely. So to have cash. Absolutely. So its watch. Its one to watch. Absolutely. One more time. Absolutely. One more time. Weve time. I think just for weve got time. I think just for one at the one more look at the universities in crisis, because lecturer and students are going on strike. Yes. So this is just the ongoing crisis which has really been non stop since 2020. Really where you had first of all, you had the covid years. You had students who were paying those exorbitant fees and yet they were locked up in their halls of residence, only really taught on zoom. That, you then zoom. On top of that, you then obviously the universities, obviously had the universities, lecturers, action, lecturers, strikes, action, which on the one hand, you know, these people suffering and these people are suffering and these people are suffering and the living crisis, like the cost of living crisis, like anyone academics anyone else, junior academics in particular have not had a real particularly like particularly fair shake like many of the economy, they many areas of the economy, they have also had kind of real terms pay have also had kind of real terms pay cuts over the course of the past 1215 years anyway. But the problem is, you combine that with the experience of the covid years and students have understandably upset, understandably quite upset, given theyre, as given the fact that theyre, as weve weeks, weve seen in recent weeks, graduating a graduating without even having a grade necessarily, all these grade necessarily, all of these kind of problems. So theres now a 140,000 students at 17 universities who have joined a class looking for class action looking for compensation. Compensation. You cant blame them. You cant blame them. Blame them. Nicky you cant blame them. Nicky i mean, people pay £9,000 a year dunng mean, people pay £9,000 a year during to be to be during lockdown to be to be locked hall locked in their hall of residence, staring screen residence, staring at a screen now thinking, wheres the vfm here now read the room here and now read the room lecturers. Theyre going on strike to further kind of rob students of their education. It makes you wonder theyre makes you wonder if theyre completely of with the completely out of touch with the educational the Educational Needs of the students. Well, i think whats interesting from a interesting is i come from a family not family of educators, not not necessarily university workers, but whats interesting is i absolutely defend their right to strike and to kind of argue for better conditions for themselves. Think it will kind of but i think it will kind of a previous era of being a lecturer because the Business Model of universities has changed so much now that that surely lecturers have to approach how they strike differently as well, that makes sense. So i think, yeah , its sense. So i think, yeah, its i think theyre not likely to get much public sympathy to be honest. Thats not a reason not to strike. But you know, its important to remember Nicky Hodgson great hodgson tom slater superb, great talk today. Thank you very much. Thank you very much. Thank you very much. Yeah, absolutely. Lets talk lets cross to ireland now, of the ireland now, the home of the former foreign secretary lord castlereagh. Called mount castlereagh. Its called mount stuart. Opens tourists castlereagh. Its called mount stuart. Opens tourists in stuart. It opens to tourists in Northern Ireland this summer. Over 200 after his death. Over 200 years after his death. And he was the minister for war during the napoleonic era and reshaped europe by overseeing acts of the union overseeing the acts of the union and end of the 1812 american and the end of the 1812 american war. Legendary northern war. Now legendary Northern Ireland reporter Dougie Beattie has a visit. Has paid a visit. All of us are only here for a short time, but the roads and structures left behind and are portholes into the past and some of us achieved much more than others. As lord castlereagh , others. As lord castlereagh, whose life was played out on a world stage and would leave his mark to this very day. Castlereagh was born into the Stuart Family in dublin, although he spent most of his life right here in mount stuart, he lived in extraordinary times. And when raised through the political ranks in britain , he political ranks in britain, he felt intensively irish. At the same time , he felt at the same time, he felt that ireland deserved to be a part of a bigger and more powerful unit, which was at that time the British Empire. He saw in the napoleonic wars how the British Empire could not only ally itself with europe , but ally itself with europe, but also lead europe. Peter lawrenson is married into the Stuart Family and is a historic expert on it. He felt himself much more as a diplomat than a politician. Its one of the politician. Its one of the reasons why the king proposed that if lord liverpool resigned , the king george the fourth would make castlereagh his Prime Minister, and castlereagh said no thanks. Thank you very much , no thanks. Thank you very much, your majesty, but no thanks. Your majesty, but no thanks. As well as appointing such men as nelson and wellington, he set up unthinkable coalitions and ensured the pope that all the vaticans wealth would be returned from napoleons armies. As secretary of war, he had put together a thing called the Sex Coalition with britain and its allies against napoleon. Thatis its allies against napoleon. That is to say, the armies of imperial russia, the armies of the austrian empire and the armies of the prussian empire. Armies of the prussian empire. And in the course of that, he became personal friend of the monarchs involved the tsar, the kaiser and the king of prussia , kaiser and the king of prussia, the boy that grew up in newtownards would set in place the acts of the union and the american war of 1812 and even more remarkable for an american like myself , it was he who like myself, it was he who brought to an end the war of 1812, which many of us have forgotten about. The principal forgotten about. The principal negotiator for the end of the war from the american side was a remarkable man called john quincy adams, became americas sixth president. And he said , sixth president. And he said, and i bring this to war an end because i trust the word of lord castlereagh. This is a very castlereagh. This is a very little known link between america and Northern Ireland, but an important one, because, as much as the congress of vienna prevented the british from fighting any wars on the continent for a hundred years until the first world war, for it is also the birth of the special relationship , because no special relationship, because no british army has had to fight an American Army for 200 years, right down to the present day. Right down to the present day. Dougie beattie gb news ulez. Mountstuart and that will be a lovely place to visit this summer. Wont it . I tell you what, if you inherited a beautiful country pile like that. Yeah. What would be the first thing youd do . Id get rid of all those old paintings of old men on horses, wouldnt you . Isnt that paul . The heritage . Would be. Heritage . That would be. Put them in a separate room or something . The thing or something . Thats the thing i find most sort of, dont know, find most sort of, i dont know, almost depressing about some of those big old country houses is those big old country houses is those blinking paintings of men sitting horseback , staring sitting on horseback, staring down at eyes, following you. But, you know, theyre part of the heritage. Know its part of i know its part of the heritage. I know its the history. And thats they how you thats how they thats how you transmitted importance, transmitted your importance, wasnt it . Thats right. You were of all. And were a man, first of all. And then astride a horse and then you sat astride a horse and with your guns and your and the foxes youd shot or foxes that youd just shot or something, paid an something, and you paid an artist to make you look artist to make to make you look far more handsome. Artist to make to make you look far and. Handsome. And. And. Absolutely. Absolutely yes, absolutely. Absolutely yes, absolutely. Absolutely yeah right. Im very yeah. Yeah right. Im very lucky to live about 100m from the beach, says steve in sunny torrevieja. But i rarely use it. Great put down on that beach and absorb some sun. Great pronunciation. And we had cambodia as as a viewer earlier. Susan close to the home watching you from Battersea Park with my rudolph and i love with my dog rudolph and i love the show. Good name a dog rudolph. Good name for a dog rudolph. Good name for a dog rudolph. Really that one. I really like that one. Anyway keep watching and do anyway keep keep watching and do keep getting in touch with your views. Gb views. Gbnews. Com. Are you a sunbed hugger . You can you a sunbed hugger . You can confess to us. You can tell us your story about how to beat the sunbed. Hoggers coming up in a few moments , the temperatures few moments, the temperatures rising. Rising. Boxt solar proud sponsors of weather on. Gb news. Weather on. Gb news. Good morning. My name weather on. Gb news. Good morning. My name is rachel ayers and welcome to your latest gb news Weather Forecast brought to you by the met office. Well today will be a more of a day of sunshine and showers lighter winds showers with lighter winds around saw around than what we saw yesterday. Yes todays storm, anthony, is already moving away to southeast, but could to the southeast, but could still bring some cloud and blustery conditions parts blustery conditions to parts of east anglia this morning east anglia through this morning. Elsewhere, cloud and. Elsewhere, well see cloud and showers soon bubbling up. And showers soon bubbling up. And these could be heavy in a few places across scotland, Northern England and with a chance of the odd thunderstorm across Northern Ireland. Feeling much more ireland. Were feeling much more pleasant today as compared pleasant today as well compared to those to yesterday with those temperatures just creeping into the 20s in the south. Now, the low 20s in the south. Now, as we go through the rest of this afternoon and into the evening, well see those showers starting to ease, becoming more confined to Northern Areas and plenty of clear spells around now with clear spells and lighter winds. Well see those temperatures dropping just a little bit more readily tonight. So towns and cities generally clinging on those double clinging on to those double figures. More widely seeing figures. But more widely seeing temperatures mid single temperatures into the mid single figures rural areas. This figures in rural areas. This will mean itll be a bright but chilly start to new week chilly start to the new week with plenty of sunshine around , with plenty of sunshine around, there could still be the odd shower developing heaviest across northern and eastern parts of scotland. But with parts of scotland. But with those light winds and that sunshine around feeling even more pleasant as we go into the new week with those temperatures just starting to climb a little bit more into the 20s with a high in the southeast and high of 23 in the southeast and the temperatures rising , boxt the temperatures rising, boxt solar proud sponsors of weather on gb news. Good morning. Good morning. Its 7 00 on sunday, the 6th of august. Today sabotage. The home secretary of Suella Braverman has accused keir starmer dumas of sabotaging her efforts to end the migrant Channel Crossings using , she Channel Crossings using, she says, a web of cronies as harry and meghan have snapped up the rights to turn a best selling book into a movie after they were by spotify for were ditched by spotify for reportedly failing to meet productivity requirements. And productivity requirements. And angry greek locals have launched what theyre calling a Towel Movement on british tourist hotspots. They say theyre wonderful. Beaches have been taken over by sunbed hoggers and then other tourists have got nowhere to go. Wed like to know and you could confess. Have you and you could confess. Have you ever been a sunbed . Hogger. Ever been a sunbed . Hogger. Surprising how many sunbed hoggers are watching the program today. Presenting the program. Presenting the program. Well, yeah. Well, yeah. Anyway, how will the weather look today . Its got to be better than yesterday. Because heres rachel ayers from the met office says was an unsettled says it was an unsettled start to the weekend with storm anthony the but it anthony crossing the uk. But it looks like a drier and brighter second half for us across the uk. Join me later for a full forecast with all the details. Forecast with all the details. Well, whatever the weather, its lovely to be with you this morning. Im anne diamond. And im Martin Daubney. And this gb news. This is breakfast on gb news. Weve got a lot of sunbed hoggers watching this morning. I am ashamed to say who. Yes and some very strong opinions on it. Actually as well. Mia in bali. A actually as well. Mia in bali. A very good morning. Bali says martin should take the sunbed with him and then take it back down again with him the next morning. In other words , take morning. In other words, take your own, balance it on my head. They must make foldable. They must make foldable. They must make foldable. Do. We know they well, they do. We know they make ones. So just take make foldable ones. So just take that you. Thats your that with you. Thats your equipment holiday. Equipment for your holiday. Thats high maintenance. I like the ones that are there. Those big plastic. Theyre sturdy. They theyre nice and sturdy. They dont theyre nice and sturdy. They doryoure right. Youre right. Youre right. Youre right. You make them your own. And alan, alan. My alan, i love this. Alan. My enjoyment sunbeds was to enjoyment with sunbeds was to watch german sunbed watch for the german sunbed thieves their towels out thieves putting their towels out and then swap them around while they their breakfast and they had their breakfast and watch pandemonium break out. Alan had continued version of the wartime spirit there. I that is a very interesting idea because weve got quite a few people getting in touch saying they actually , you know, saying they actually, you know, they they actually pick up all they they actually pick up all the towels and throw them in the pool and yeah, which is one thing pool and yeah, which is one thirbut i think actually causing but i think actually causing a of ruckus by muddling a bit of a ruckus by muddling things around. Yeah, that is actually quite clever. Rearranging the deck chairs that would cause war though. I mean, people would get very upset about it will kick off. It really be yes it really would be fisticuffs. Yeah yes it really would be fist chris. Yeah yes it really would be fist chris says] yes it really would be fist chris says 100 guests, 100 chris says 100 guests, 100 sunbeds. Solved. Yeah. Sunbeds. Problem solved. Yeah. This this one is always struck me as a solution that isnt there. Catherine in Manchester Hotels let manchester why dont hotels let you book your sunbeds with your room your holiday room when you book your holiday . I mean, why not . I dont think when you think how many people are in the average tourist hotel, it would be several thousand. Theyd too be many. Yeah. Theyd too be many. Yeah. You cant put several thousand sunbeds around the pool isuppose thousand sunbeds around the pool i suppose they would say because not everybody wants to lie not everybody wants to just lie on sunbed pool. I dont on a sunbed by the pool. I dont know you solve one, but know how you solve this one, but it causing a real problem, it is causing a real problem, isnt and spoil your isnt it . And it can spoil your houday isnt it . And it can spoil your holiday if , if, people isnt it . And it can spoil your holiday if, if, people are holiday if, if, if people are very , very good at it. So every very, very good at it. So every morning when come even morning when you come down even early, just after early, maybe just after breakfast, cannot find breakfast, you cannot find a sunbed to lie on that can spoil your holiday. It really can. Well, got to say me well, ive got to say for me that Early Morning fryston, that that Early Morning fryston, its part the fun , you know, its part of the fun, you know, that that that antagonism , that that that that antagonism, that battle, very competitive. Like it all. Yeah you are. I like it all. Yeah you are. I like it all. Yeah you are. Youve got a nottingham accent. Did that . I have. Did you know that . I have. Yeah thats all right. Phil in nottingham says keep hogging martin hogging the sunbeds martin love your accent the telly. Well there arent many of us. Well there arent many of us. Yeah there few. Yeah there are few. Yeah there are few. Lets talk about one of the main stories bothering people today, and thats the migrant crisis. The Channel Crossings there are. The home secretary has actually accused sir keir starmer of trying to sabotage her attempt to end the illegal immigration crisis. Yes well, a braverman claims a labour leader has a web of cronies who are blocking any efforts to stop small boat crossings from calais. Well, lets speak now to political commentator Stephen Carlton woods. Good morning, carlton woods. Good morning, stephen. This is proving to be a real its almost a toxic subject for both party as theyre both blaming each other for not being able to get anything done. Able to get anything done. Well, if we look at the look of the facts behind all this with the labour party, it really is a web of deception because all the people , theres a lot of all the people, theres a lot of people involved with labour who are really at odds with what the government are trying to do. So, sir keir starmer has come out with this brush statement yesterday saying that theyre going to sort out immigration quite quickly over a short penod quite quickly over a short period of time. But yet when we look at all the problems around the migrant crisis of whats Suella Braverman has been trying to do, its all full of labour cronies that have been there blocking it. For instance, the blocking it. For instance, the labour party have just appointed a lawyer, Jacqueline Mckenzie, to help draw up the election manifesto and mckenzie is a director of detention action, a Charitable Company that brought legal challenges against the removal of Asylum Seekers of rwanda. Um, and also the rwanda. Um, and also the detention action was recently run by Labour Council leader bella sankey, who recently stepped down in may to take over of lee as leader of brighton and hove council so we can go on with the calais care for calais. Susan jacks, a member of the care for calais and board and former chair of trustees, is a former chair of trustees, is a former labour candidate who stood for west Sussex County council in 2021. Um it goes on and on and on. This weve got law firm doughty street chambers where sir keir starmer was a Founding Member and its barristers. There have said a number of its barristers have been appeared in court to represent groups opposing the rwanda policy. It really goes on rwanda policy. It really goes on and on and on. Its quite deep within the labour party or whats been going on in the background and they cant really hide away from that. Stephen, another and stephen, another extraordinary line of attack. Extraordinary line of attack. Its the front page of todays sunday express. They have this exclusive, another attack from braverman directly on starmer , braverman directly on starmer, saying starmer has successfully campaigned to halt this governments attempts to deport vile foreign criminals, including rapists and murderers. A total betrayal of their victims. Shes, of course, referring to a flight in 2020 that was grounded on its way to jamaica. There were 23 violent criminals on board a couple of weeks ago. The tories said they were looking for these wedge issues after the uxbridge by election. Theyre going for the throat on. This is getting down and dirty. Do you think the British Public would like that or is this not very british . Well , i or is this not very british . Well, i think its about time the tories started standing up for themselves and bringing proper argument to the table. Theyve let labour get away with this for too long and theres lots and the Mainstream Media let labour get away with things for too long. So dont forget sir keir starmer was head of the crown prosecution service. Loads of the rape gangs go free back in the day, so hes got a history of this sort of thing. Anyway and we still we want to be looking at sir keir starmer and surely hes got questions to answer for. On why he talks tough on immigration and yet so many of his allies are involved in trying to thwart the governments policies. Yeah. And then the next question has to be if, if keir starmer got into power , he would starmer got into power, he would he too would face the same problems. He would be required to do something about these illegal immigration is. And how would he face exactly the same problems that the present government is facing. Government is facing. This is typical of labour, you see criticise the government. They do everything to upset the apple cart. I mean, who are they really . You know who are they really . You know who are they really . You know who are their interests really at the end of the day, its certainly not ordinary peoples interests at heart. Here with the labour party, its all about scoring cheap Political Goals just to try and get one over on the government and its not doing anyone any favours for that. Yeah. Stephen, its all fair and well for the conservatives to steam into starmer, but lets look at the numbers. Theyve hardly done a great job of stopping boats or stopping the boats or controlling our borders themselves. , a record themselves. In july, a record 3299 people made the journey in 63 boats. An average of 52 migrants per vessel. So thats fair. And wales to have a go at starmer. But theyve singly and spectacularly and measurably failed to control our borders. So who do we trust . Martin youre missing the point here. The point is, every time the government try and do something, youve got labours cronies involved in all sorts of different bits of action. Stop ing the government from doing all that. So if the government are constantly got the heart, the hands tied every time they go to court, weve got judges overturning decisions. Its an overturning decisions. Its an impossible and it makes you Impossible Task and it makes you wonder whos actually running the country and who should run the country and who should run the country and who should run the country. The country. But well leave it there for the moment. The vote the people voted for a conservative government and the government have not been a conservative government and the goveto � nent have not been a conservative government and the goveto d01t have not been a conservative government and the goveto do the ave not been a conservative government and the goveto do the job not been a conservative government and the goveto do the job welleen a conservative government and the goveto do the job well. An allowed to do the job well. And thats my point exactly. And if the people voted for a different government in a year and a half or would and a half or so, would that different government be able to get on with the job at all . Well leave it there for the moment. But something yeah, its something to be something were going to be talking pretty the talking about pretty lot in the future, thanks very future, i think. Thanks very much for joining future, i think. Thanks very much forjoining us. Much for joining us. Think your dad. Yeah, i think your dad. Right. Know right. Right. You know your dad right. Its just attack the its you cant just attack the opposition all the time unless you can actually take back control yourself. And think control yourself. And i think people well believe that people may well believe that neither them actually neither of them are actually doing a good job. Thats it. Mean, that well, thats it. I mean, that was point i was trying was what the point i was trying to at earlier is and id to get at earlier is and id love hear your views, is if love to hear your views, is if you were if we were in a general election and you were about to tick one the boxes who would tick one of the boxes who would you trust actually be you trust most to actually be able anything done . Never able to get anything done . Never mind they say theyre mind what they say theyre going to know the to do. We know the practicalities if you practicalities now. Even if you come ideas like rwanda come up with ideas like rwanda and barges and, you and floating barges and, you know, converting former sites into places to put illegal Illegal Migrants , what what do Illegal Migrants, what what do you do when youre faced with a flotilla thats probably not the right word. An army of human rights lawyers who were paying to actually its in their interest to just make it eke it out, make it difficult and we know theres been theres even been some very bad behaviour from some lawyers on that, too. Precisely. But i still believe and i think a lot the believe and i think a lot of the electorate believe its electorate believe that its okay to blame deportation or where where the migrants live or how them. But the how we process them. But the central premise of rishi five pledges is to stop the boats and theyre not. Thats all im saying. So theyre arguing like rats in a sack. But do they actually have a solution . And i actually have a solution . And i sometimes just think they dont. They come up with lots of so called solutions, but they never seem be workable. Never seem to be workable. Anyway, its sunday. You dont need me to remind you. I hope youre enjoying yourself. Maybe youre still lying in bed. You know, in know, enjoying breakfast in bed. Wouldnt lovely. Wouldnt that be nice . Lovely. But its lovely to be with you. And theres lots to talk about. And theres lots to talk about. And funny. Matter how and its funny. No matter how much and i know much politics and i know its sort silly sort of what we call silly season as theres lots of season as well, theres lots of different life to different aspects of life to talk. But ill you talk about. But ill tell you what, meghan are what, harry and meghan are still in on many of the in the papers on many of the front pages because people still talk about them, dont they . And talk about them, dont they . And have you ever heard of a book best selling book called meet me at lake . No, i havent heard at the lake . No, i havent heard about apparently huge about it. Apparently its a huge bestseller. Harry and meghan bestseller. And harry and meghan are going produce a film of are going to produce a film of it for netflix. Theyve bought it for netflix. Theyve bought the rights to this best selling romantic. Romantic novel. Yeah, the book is about a couple who meet in their 30s, similar to the duke and duchess real life relationship ship. The news amid reports theyre news comes amid reports theyre star the us after star is waning in the us after spotify spectacularly dropped them. And maybe they say they see this idea as something to actually sort of relaunch them in america. However where theyve just bought the rights to a book to turn it into a film. But all the writers are going strike. Going on strike. Great and maybe yeah, great timing and maybe theyll themselves or theyll write it themselves or get to do it. Get guy to do it. Speak former bbc lets speak now to former bbc royal correspondent and friend of the program, michael cole. Morning, michael. Morning, michael. Good morning and good morning , martin. Yes, california to , martin. Yes, the california to their loveliness goes on and on coming out of a new box here as film producers, theyve bought the rights of this for book a reported £3 million. And of course, there are echoes. There are parallels here. Its about two people who meet and fall in love in their 30s. They both come from fractured homes. Uh, come from fractured homes. Uh, check their they both have suffered childhood trauma. Check suffered childhood trauma. Check there. One of them has lost a parent in a car crash. Another tick there. Um, what she has tick there. Um, what she has suffered from postnatal depression. Theres lots of talk about Mental Health and in addition to that, theres drug use. And of course you cant read if youre forced to spare the princes memoir without without tripping over references to smoking weed and hallucinatory drugs. And so on and so forth. So its all there. All human life is wrapped up in this volume and theyre going to make a film of it. Not at the moment, of course, because hollywood is strike bound, but eventually they will. And this book has been written by a woman called carly fortune, who is a journalist turned author, and she lives in toronto, known to the canadians as toronto. And the canadians as toronto. And but im not sure , of course, but im not sure, of course, thats where thats where where. Meghan markle did live when she was making suits and apparently the book is full of steamy sex. Well, there was plenty of steamy sex in suits, at least in one episode that i saw. So sex in suits, at least in one episode that i saw. So there we episode that i saw. So there we are. There are set to be the new are. There are set to be the new sort of Samuel Goldwyn and Louis B Mayer film producers of the future. Future. Yeah, it doesnt sound terribly convincing to me, does it . To you . It . To you . Well, well have to wait and see. You know, a film is as good as its production. Its been as its production. Its been stressed that theyre not going to be involved in front of camera. Theyre going to be the producers of this. Its quite a chunk of money. See, its from , chunk of money. See, its from, you know, to pay £3 million in advance of that. And then youve got to get the whole thing together. But if its a worldwide hit of course theyll get if its another get their money. If its another love back a love story going back a few decades is, of course, theyll theyll their money back. Theyll get their money back. But certainly is. I mean, but it certainly is. I mean, theyve lost a big income stream with spotify who dismissed them with spotify who dismissed them with some degree of disdain. And with some degree of disdain. And theyve had other income streams closed down. And as you said at the beginning, seems to be that america is to some extent falling out in love with them. The thing about america is they always want whats new, the novelty, whats next . This is the home of nostalgia. This is where the David Hasselhoffs and the other people come here. The to, you know, do pantomime where the great people who love the people who used to be in america, they just want one snakes. And if youre not, whats next coming out of the bandbox . Then what are you doing bandbox . Then what are you doing here . Sort of thing . The big question, of course, michael, is will the sussex touch be the kiss of death or the kiss of life . Because lets face it, spotify believe believed that that would be the magic dust of guaranteed credibility and box office. It actually turned out to be complete kryptonite. To be complete kryptonite. Well, it was terrible. And of well, it was terrible. And of course, the man who was running it, despite missed them as a couple of grifters. Well, thats american slang, which i think means confidence tricksters. In other words, he was saying that theyd signed up to do all this stuff and they didnt do it at the end and somebody else who was talking about her talent said, does she have any talent at all . I mean, think i did. I did watch suits. I thought she was a good little actress. You know, in a good little show. It was quite well written. And tautly scripted. But she was sixth on the call list. You know, she wasnt even the star of it. And that was the peak of her ambition. So at the age of her ambition. So at the age of 42, i think is what she is now. Do people go back on the screen in hollywood . Not many parts for people of 42. Women are 42 anyway. So well have to see. I mean, i wish them well. I hope they do have some success because obviously they have a hugely expensive lifestyle living in their hilltop fortress. There guarded around the clock. By security, i mean the clock. By security, i mean three shifts of big, burly men of 24 hours a day, 365 days a yeah of 24 hours a day, 365 days a year. And one extra on leap yeah year. And one extra on leap year. That costs an awful lot of money. And you can burn through it very, very rapidly. Of it very, very rapidly. Of course, they were wealthy at the beginning and theyve made money. The netflix deal was worth more than 100 million. And dont forget that spare published back in january is the biggest selling biography theres ever been in the whole world. I mean, that must have brought in a few shekels. Yes, but theyre spending it, arent they . And theyre mixing with people whove far more with people whove got far more money. The real hollywood wealth, however, i mean , setting wealth, however, i mean, setting up a Production Company, which is presumably what theyd have to quite an ambitious to do, is quite an ambitious one. Theyve got no form on that. And the only form actually for anyone from the royal family setting up a Production Company is edward. And that is prince edward. And that didnt the world on didnt exactly set the world on fire, it . Fire, did it . Oh dear. Ardent oh dear, ardent made 1 or 2. Dear old desmond wilcox, no longer with us, held his hand in that company. He he us, held his hand in that company. He he made a us, held his hand in that company. He he made a couple of company. He he made a couple of films on royal themes. Company. He he made a couple of films on royal themes. Edward on films on royal themes. Edward on edward, which was him thinking about edward the eighth, the king who abdicated. And then, of course, it went bust and people said at the time when they walked into the headquarters, you know, there were lots of leggy secretaries and a beautiful marble atrium and everything and pot plants. And when you see all that, you know that is going to that the company is going to fail you actually have fail because you actually have to before you to make the money before you have accoutrements have the accoutrements of success. And that went down the swanee of course, did swanee river as of course, did his wifes , uh, pr firm. Um, the his wifes, uh, pr firm. Um, the now duchess of edinburgh. So the record of showbusiness and the royal family is not an one of an unalloyed success, but theyve always been fascinated by it. Lord mountbatten of burma. He was absolutely be fascinated by hollywood. He went to hollywood. Hollywood. He went to hollywood. He and his wife, they were friends of, uh , of charlie friends of, uh, of charlie chapun friends of, uh, of Charlie Chaplin and all the great stars of the 1930. And and 20s, the silent era , Douglas Fairbanks silent era, Douglas Fairbanks and so on. So the royal family have always been fascinated by, by, by film in particular, and show business is presumably because in a way, part of their shtick is being seen, is being out there, it is presenting themselves. And thats a very important part of majesty. Themselves. And thats a very important part of majesty. You important part of majesty. You might want to deny it, but its absolutely out there. Thats absolutely out there. Thats what it is. And i wish them well. I mean, its quite clear to me and actually hes alluded to it, that harry is in a way trying to live out the life that he thought his mother was going to have because there were plans for her to move to malibu with dodi had it all dodi fayed. They had it all worked out and they were going to and live out there. And it to go and live out there. And it appealed to her an because she felt that in america theyd give her an even break. You know, in america , particularly los america, particularly los angeles , celebrity is the angeles, celebrity is the currency. And there are so many celebrities. And if youre at safeway, which doesnt exist in this country anymore, but does in america and youre checking out your grocery and Kevin Costner is at the next checkout and you just say hello. Hello. Well, thats how it goes. People fit in. And she felt diana felt very strongly that after a while she would be able to fit in and the americans wouldnt have the wouldnt bring to bear the pressure that there was in this country. So she was quite content to think of living there. And of course, she told her sons about that. So obviously, harry knows about that. So in a way, i think hes actually living out his mothers death mini, which of course she never fulfilled. Fulfilled. Yeah, but dodi fired was a proven very, very success. Full film director, was he not . Producer he had. He had he had a lot of people go to hollywood and do nothing. He did six films start off with broken glass. If you can go back as far as 1980. And then, of course, he he was the associate producer of chariots of fire, which was the first british film to win for oscars. And he went on and did murder by by illusion parts one and two and the Scarlet Letter , which i and the Scarlet Letter, which i think was an extremely underrated letter, a film. I underrated letter, a film. I rather enjoyed it. And he was associate producer of hook. And at the time of his death, he was about to make a new live action, not a Cartoon Version of um, of hook of peter pan and in fact had arranged for the rights of that to be extended because they are owned by great ormond street Childrens Hospital in, in perpetuity. Uh, that was perpetuity. Uh, that was bequeathed them by, by the author. So sirjames barrie and he was going to make that and he told Princess Diana all about it and how he was to going cast it and how he was to going cast it and all the rest of it. And it was really strange that after her death, the first memorial to her death, the first memorial to her and perhaps the nicest one was the childrens playground in kensico gardens, which of course is all based upon peter pan. Is all based upon peter pan. That wonderful story by jm barrie. Yeah you cant help but think if only or you know, or what if , however. What if, however. Michael absolutely fascinating talking to you and heanng fascinating talking to you and hearing those stories. Thank you so much for being with us. That was excellent. That was excellent. Its my great pleasure. Its my great pleasure. Oh yeah. Oh yeah. Oh yeah. I dont want to stop. I dont want to stop. Does make you but does it does make you but it does doesnt makes think, oh, it does make you but it does doesrif. Makes think, oh, what if. Yeah, it does. And it brings back memories. Does. Now back sad memories. It does. Now rest in peace. Diner. Absolutely. 723, yeah, absolutely. At 723, well take a short break. A brighter outlook with boxt solar proud sponsors of weather on. Gb proud sponsors of weather on. Gb news good morning. My name is rachel ayers and welcome to your latest gb news Weather Forecast brought to you by the met office. Well, today will be a more of a day of sunshine and showers with lighter winds around what lighter winds around than what we yesterday. Yesterdays we saw yesterday. Yesterdays storm has already moving storm anthony has already moving away the southeast, but could away to the southeast, but could still some cloud. And still bring some cloud. And blustery conditions to of blustery conditions to parts of east through this east anglia through this morning. Elsewhere well see cloud and showers soon bubbling up and these could be heavy in a few across scotland , few places across scotland, Northern England and with a chance of the odd thunderstorm across Northern Ireland. And we feeling much more pleasant today as to yesterday as well compared to yesterday with temperatures just with those temperatures just creeping 20s in the creeping into the low 20s in the south. Now, as we go through the rest of this afternoon and into the evening, well see those showers starting to ease, becoming more confined to Northern Areas and plenty of clear spells around now with clear spells around now with clear spells around now with clear spells and lighter winds. Well see those temperatures dropping just a little bit more readily tonight. So towns and readily tonight. So towns and cities generally clinging on to those double figures, but more widely seeing temperatures into the single figures rural the mid single figures in rural areas. This the mid single figures in rural areas. This will mean itll be a bright but chilly start to the new week. Plenty of sunshine around there could still be the odd shower developing heaviest across northern and eastern parts of scotland. But with those light winds and that sunshine around feeling even more pleasant as we go into the new week with those temperatures just starting to climb a little bit more into the 20s with a high of 23 in the southeast and a brighter outlook with boxt solar proud sponsors of weather on. Gb news. On. Gb news. Well, whatever the weather, i hope youre going to have a great sunday if youre on houday. Great sunday if youre on holiday. And there are many holiday. And there are many people probably watching right now who are planning to go out and hog sunbed, it the and hog a sunbed, is it the right thing to do . Elaine says, i agree with an people who say sunbeds for themselves and then disappear are very, very selfish. If they plan to come down immediately after breakfast, have a couple of hours and then move off to do Something Else, thats fine, but then should remove their then they should remove their belongings else belongings and give someone else a chance. Belongings and give someone else a ciwell, i mean, obviously well, i mean, obviously i dont agree. Out and proud as hogger im out and proud as a hogger Jack Derbyshire says , i was jack in derbyshire says, i was shocked to see grown people doing this. Its like a bunch of selfish children toys. Selfish children hogging toys. I went resort in tunisia went to a resort once in tunisia and for the first time. And saw it for the first time. Never been back again a never been back again to a big resort again. It resort holiday again. It was a disgrace. Well, catherine in durham maureen catherine says, were maureen catherine says, we were in two weeks ago and the in rhodes two weeks ago and the sunbed situation was absolutely dreadful. Were not only dreadful. People were not only putting towels on beds around the pool, but claiming the pool, but also claiming sunbeds beach. They went sunbeds on the beach. They went out as early as 5 am. In the end, by the third day, i joined them to get a bed. See, thats what im saying. You cant beat them. Join them. Just goes to show, even when they wildfires raging, just goes to show, even when they are nildfires raging, just goes to show, even when they are anxious raging, people are anxious about sunbeds. Big deal its a big deal. Its a big deal. If thats the sort of holiday you want, why not . I suppose it just seems so selfish going away as , to have as you do, to go and have a siesta and still leaves this stuff on this holiday. I dont know. Anyway do stick with us. Up know. Anyway do stick with us. Up next, all latest sports up next, all the latest sports news with aidan. Youre watching breakfast gb news breakfast on gb news welcome back. Its 730. Youre watching and listening to breakfast with with anne and martin. And lets find out all the latest sports news now with my mucker, aidan magee, who joins us in the studio. Smelling joins us in the studio. Smelling fragrance ever. Joins us in the studio. Smelling fragrance ever. Aidan boxing fragrance as ever. Aidan boxing another scandal hits the joshua fight. Whats going on this time . Oh, goodness me. This is just dreadful for the sport. Hes had a wretched year or so, certainly since covid. But yeah, dylan whyte face Anthony Whyte was due to face Anthony Joshua in a second fight they had won in 2015, which joshua won. It was due to take place next saturday at the o2. Won. It was due to take place next saturday at the 02. The headune next saturday at the 02. The headline act of a show that was going last the whole evening. Going to last the whole evening. Of course, including the undercard and Dillian Whyte returned an adverse finding from a doping test yesterday from the voluntary anti doping association. We should say association wada. We should say at the moment that Dillian Whyte issued statement yesterday issued a statement yesterday saying done saying that this sample was done voluntarily. Been picked up voluntarily. Hes been picked up on this kind of thing before and then of it. Then nothings come of it. Hes been , hes been exonerated been found, hes been exonerated and that hes completely innocent. Dont actually innocent. And we dont actually know the substance know what the substance is. We wont probably wont know that until probably later maybe tomorrow. Later today or maybe tomorrow. And the show is and then right now, the show is actually theyre hoping it will go ahead next saturday. Just this fight cancelled for now. This fight is cancelled for now. Theyre find theyre hoping they can find an opponent for joshua. With opponent for joshua. But with a weeks notice or six notice weeks notice or six days notice that going have their that theyre going to have their work contenders work cut out. The contenders would be filip hrgovic, zhilei zhang, possibly derek chisora, we might step in at short we think might step in at short notice, but disastrous for boxing. I mean, weve seen jake paul influencer boxing. I mean, weve seen jake paul a influencer boxing. I mean, weve seen jake paul a unanimous influencer boxing. I mean, weve seen jake paul a unanimous decision. Encer boxing. I mean, weve seen jake paul a unanimous decision. Weve with a unanimous decision. Weve seen the rise of womens boxing in those entities are filling the vacuum left by the mens the mens sport at the moment because with all the contractual wrangling that had gone on, which are stopping big which are stopping the big fights thats really fights happening, thats really damaging and when damaging for boxing. And when a sport gets gets bedraggled by drugs, saw with athletics, drugs, as we saw with athletics, 20, years ago, or 20, 30 years ago, sooner or later, broadcasters later, advertisers, broadcasters pull away. Its not a good look whatsoever. But well more whatsoever. But well get more on the goes on. On that as the day goes on. Yeah, it just seems boxing has become so laden this become so laden down with this wrangling, just getting wrangling, people just getting bored and on to the stuff. Which brings us to on the championship. Now that started yesterday. A yesterday. I hear you had a bit of a how she put it a rocky start as a qpr fan. Did. Our yeah, we did. So our producer, dean spencer and myself went to vicarage road to watch qpr play. He said to me just as we were walking up to the minutes the ground like five minutes before he said, before kick off, he said, hayden, i dont know it is. Hayden, i dont know what it is. Were it today, but were up against it today, but ive a good feeling ive got a really good feeling about qpr. Anyway, were 1 0 about qpr. Anyway, we were 1 0 down seconds, i down after 36 seconds, which i dont goal. Dont think ive seen a goal. Theres dean and i, theyre a bit picture thats theres dean and i, theyre a bitvicarage picture thats theres dean and i, theyre a bitvicarage road picture thats theres dean and i, theyre a bitvicarage road inicture thats theres dean and i, theyre a bitvicarage road inicturawayts at vicarage road in the away end. Yesterday 4 0 down end. Yesterday we were 4 0 down at half time. Watford took their foot the second foot off the gas in the second half managed to stay half and we managed to just stay in little bit. But in the game a little bit. But a dreadful start to the season question marks over over the manager, to dean, you manager, but i said to dean, you know, next get know, the next time we get a good feeling, just keep it to yourself and dont yourself next time and dont jinx but ill tell you what jinx it. But ill tell you what the not been the away end the ive not been the away end at qpr for with for at qpr for or with qpr for a little support gb little while. The support for gb news in there incredible. News in there was incredible. You people come up to me news in there was incredible. You say people come up to me news in there was incredible. You say watch ple come up to me news in there was incredible. You say watch everyme up to me news in there was incredible. You say watch every week to me news in there was incredible. You say watch every week on me news in there was incredible. You say watch every week on one and say watch every week on on on tv. Its wonderful. Wonder and say watch every week on on ortheyre;wonderful. Wonder and say watch every week on on ortheyre pickedzrful. Wonder and say watch every week on on ortheyre picked up l. Wonder and say watch every week on on ortheyre picked up in wonder and say watch every week on on ortheyre picked up in the nder ratings. Superb. Thank you to the super hoops fans out there now today the of the today is the kind of the showboat the pony to showboat the show pony start to the of the premier League Season of course the Community Shield what i about i think is interesting about this man city arsenal today its normally the fa normally the winners of the fa cup of the cup versus the winners of the league. Won both. League. But city won both. So you take what they did. So you take so what happens that you take happens then is that you take the in the premier the runners up in the premier league. They normally become the opponents. Happened before. Opponents. Its happened before. The double the city have won the double relatively kick the city have won the double relttoday. Kick the city have won the double relttoday. Couple kick the city have won the double relttoday. Couple injuries the city have won the double reltbothy. Couple injuries the city have won the double reltboth sides. Uple injuries the city have won the double reltboth sides. Were injuries the city have won the double reltboth sides. Were not uries for both sides. Were not probably going to see the team that were see in the that were going to see in the next or so, because next month or so, because arsenal will arsenal promised that they will be outgoings. Be incomings and outgoings. Theyve got an injury to gabriel. Jesus, course, gabriel. Jesus, of course, should as well should mention scotland as well today scottish today because our scottish viewers have contacted us yesterday saying we dont give them quite enough mention. So interesting sport interesting day in the sport yesterday. Celtic beating ross county brendan county 4 2. That was Brendan Rodgers first in charge a rodgers first game in charge a big at big surprise down the road at kilmarnock by one kilmarnock rangers losing by one goal nil. So thats already goal to nil. So thats already put back foot at put rangers on the back foot at the of the season. The start of the season. Superb. And youve got a quick us yesterday. Hugely disappointing for england as well. Mean england as well. Yeah. I mean its is the warm up its the this is the warm up ahead the world cup ahead of the world cup announcement tomorrow thats announcement tomorrow. Thats the man squad. The squad 33 man squad. I mean he said that Steve Borthwick said wasnt to be a said it wasnt going to be a warm for the world cup squad warm up for the world cup squad announcement. Can how announcement. But how can how can be. They can it not be. Yeah. 29 they lost principality stadium lost at the principality stadium. Wales looking pretty good. This side by the way this is a wales side by the way earlier in the year lost all their nations matches. Was their six nations matches. Was england of england winning just two of theirs. Dont what theirs. So i dont know what sort leaves sort of condition that leaves england cup, but england for the world cup, but they kick off on september the ninth marseille ninth in marseille against argentina. So all eyes on that and well see. Well see what the squad announcement to and well see. Well see what the inuad announcement to and well see. Well see what the in storennouncement to and well see. Well see what the in store tomorrow. 3nt to and well see. Well see what the in sgot tomorrow. 3nt to and well see. Well see what the in sgot to morrow. 3nt to and well see. Well see what the in sgot to say, ow. 3nt to and well see. Well see what the in sgot to say, in. Znt to and well see. Well see what the in sgot to say, i watched to ive got to say, i watched that match i fell asleep. That match and i fell asleep. Ive that match and i fell asleep. Pve the that match and i fell asleep. Ive the early shift. Ive been on the early shift. Theyre improving. Theyre not improving. Theyre not improving. Its theyre not improving. Simple3 not improving. Its theyre not improving. Simple as t improving. Its theyre not improving. Simple as that. roving. Its as simple as that. Not good. If fell asleep. I just thought england were really flabby and really just flabby and not really just flabby and not reaishould have come to watford should have come to watford with after 36 seconds with me. A goal after 36 seconds would kept you awake. Would have kept you awake. Well, would you well, would have kept you crying quickly. Crying so quickly. Today, back back to the so today, back to back to the man. Yeah, thats right. Man city. Yeah, thats right. They as two front they are tipped as the two front for premier league. For the premier league. Yeah, think so. Yeah, i think so. Yeah, i think so. Todays though, is todays match, though, is a its about. It its a knock about. Would it have relevance we have any relevance on what we can expect from the premier League Season which starts next sunday, thats right. No, next yes, thats right. No, next saturday. Never that saturday. It can never be that because wembley its because its at wembley and its a and you know, it a full house and you know, it sets the the start of sets the tone for the start of the dont get me wrong, the season, dont get me wrong, because if you were the whether you game or lose it, you win that game or lose it, its going set the tone its not going to set the tone for necessarily. But for your season necessarily. But why youre at wembley in why not . If youre at wembley in front full house, why front of a full house, why not give think give it everything . And i think i will and i think both teams will and itll be good to see some some premier league for action the first couple of months. Aidan thanks your aidan magee thanks for your input commiserations the input and commiserations on the 4 0 thumping. Hopefully wont 4 0 thumping. Hopefully it wont set so long. 4 0 thumping. Hopefully it wont set its so long. 4 0 thumping. Hopefully it wont set its a so long. 4 0 thumping. Hopefully it wont set its a long so long. 4 0 thumping. Hopefully it wont set its a long sthat g. Morning again. Welcome back. Morning again. Welcome back. Its 739. Youre listening and watching breakfast here on gb news with me and him. Yeah. And its time to go through the papers now. Joining us this morning is editor of spikes, tom slater, and author and good and broadcaster, good pal of mine, hodgson. Mine, Nicky Hodgson. Good morning both again. Morning to you both again. Superb round one. Lets go for round tom kick off with you round two. Tom kick off with you sunday page 12 shock sunday express page 12 shock horror rates will help horror Interest Rates will help to kill the high street. I mean the high street, of course, has already been hammered by so much in recent years, even before the pandemic. Hammered by so much in recent yeimanyen before the pandemic. Hammered by so much in recent yeimany hospitality1e pandemic. Hammered by so much in recent yeimany hospitality venues emic. So many hospitality venues shutting down and so on. And this rise from the of this rate rise from the bank of england up to 5. 25 is only hammering them further. England up to 5. 25 is only hammering them further. One of hammering them further. One of the big problems that a lot of them are experiencing as well is that took on of debt that they took on a lot of debt dunng that they took on a lot of debt during the pandemic as well just to able to above water. To be able to stay above water. Theres £10 billion worth of covid up in covid loans wrapped up in hospitality. Hospitality venues themselves. And of all of and the consequence of all of this theres a terrifying this is theres a terrifying statistic here. Since 2020, 13 of Hospitality Industry is of the Hospitality Industry is effectively shut down in this country. And a lot of these businesses, a pub closes, it businesses, if a pub closes, it most likely will be turned most likely will just be turned into of the time into flats. A lot of the time youre talking about high streets being forever, streets being lost forever, really, to really, and all in response to the terrible economic circumstances of circumstances which a lot of these businesses , something that circumstances which a lot of thesentirelyesses , something that circumstances which a lot of thesentirely out; , something that circumstances which a lot of thesentirely out of something that circumstances which a lot of thesentirely out of theirthing that was entirely out of their control. This isnt them control. This isnt about them not themselves properly control. This isnt about them nthis themselves properly control. This isnt about them nthis th and you know, certainly hospitality nicky from from the very start has been sort of hammered by covid and all sorts of things. What could we do of things. What could we do about this . So we hear from people like adam brooks , gb people like adam brooks, gb news, landlord vat news, contributor, landlord vat breaks for pubs , you know, maybe breaks for pubs, you know, maybe like a scaling back of Business Rates because lets face it, not only is it pubs, but also the high street retailers, they cant compete with the online biggies. Yeah, absolutely. Cant compete with the online biggimean,ih, absolutely. Cant compete with the online biggimean,ih, ahusband. I mean, my husband was a Hospitality Business until Hospitality Business owner until recently. Lucky and recently. He got very lucky and sold his bars after the pandemic because basically clung because they had basically clung on. But i think, you know, for a very long time it has been that the issue with the landlords just putting up rates just putting up the rates all the and certainly the time. And certainly during covid, that a lot. Covid, we dealt with that a lot. It just that they just it was just that they just refused budge rent and refused to budge on the rent and then going to lose then they were going to lose the premises. But premises. And its like, but this really profitable this is a really profitable business that will obviously come this so come back when this is over. So but kind really but they were kind of really kind of like short sighted and they to profiteer they want to profiteer basically. So but i think business a really good Business Rates is a really good one. Um, theres issues one. Um, theres so many issues with staffing. Is the with staffing. Staffing is the biggest recruiting Biggest Issue now. Recruiting and , being able Biggest Issue now. Recruiting an pay , being able Biggest Issue now. Recruiting an pay a , being able Biggest Issue now. Recruiting an pay a decent , being able Biggest Issue now. Recruiting an pay a decent wage eing able Biggest Issue now. Recruiting an pay a decent wage becausez to pay a decent wage because youre these youre not having all these knock mean , the thing knock on. I mean, the thing weve remember that weve got to remember is that hospitality is what the fifth biggest technically biggest employer technically in britain. About biggest employer technically in btiny1. About biggest employer technically in b tiny industry about biggest employer technically in b tiny industry or about biggest employer technically in b tiny industry or a about biggest employer technically in b tiny industry or a cottage out a tiny industry or a cottage industry. Talking industry. Were talking about something has lots of something that has lots of people that sustains and we people that it sustains and we have invest in have to invest more in sustaining people because sustaining those people because theres them. Theres so many of them. 100. 100. Youve got to invest more in lots things. The question lots of things. The question is, where from where is the money coming from at moment . And money at the moment . And money is a big your the story big problem with your the story you picked out from the observer. Where patients observer. Yeah where patients who are up against long nhs waiting lists desperate for some sort of treatment, maybe a scan or Something Like that, are finding a new way to actually buy buy in. Yeah. So patients are now using buy now, pay later schemes offered by apps like klarna for example. Thats just one of them. As many Different Services to pay for private scans, private tests , things that can private tests, things that can be not necessarily diagnostic , be not necessarily diagnostic, but things that you initially need doing to , uh, you know, need doing to, uh, you know, knock something off the list or even go towards treatment. You have do this exactly you have to do this exactly because, you know, you because, you know, its like you 90, because, you know, its like you go, example, have go, for example, i have a hernia, now, ill tell hernia, right now, ill tell you, had baby and you, because ive had a baby and the waiting to even be seen the waiting list to even be seen by consultant look at it is the waiting list to even be seen byyearonsultant look at it is the waiting list to even be seen byyear with tant look at it is the waiting list to even be seen byyear with the look at it is the waiting list to even be seen byyear with the nhsyok at it is the waiting list to even be seen byyear with the nhs is; at it is the waiting list to even be seen byyear with the nhs is it . It is a year with the nhs is it . Yeah. Ive gone private. Yeah. So ive gone private. I just found out i dont need anything doing about it, so theyre it. Theyre just going to leave it. But had pay privately for but i had to pay privately for that i was just i that because i was just like, i cant here for a year. Cant just sit here for a year. And so for that, for and, and so for that, for instance, youd need an ultrasound scan at the very least, you . Least, wouldnt you . That i wonder how much that would cost. Youre just cost. Well then youre just going. No, theyre not anything to with laboratory or to do with a laboratory or a scan like that. It scan or anything like that. It involves multiple staff for a start, doesnt it . Well is start, doesnt it . Well this is what have thought. What i would have thought. Thats to take what i would have thought. Tha a; to take what i would have thought. Tha a buy to take what i would have thought. Thaa buy now, to take what i would have thought. Thaa buy now, pay to take what i would have thought. Thaa buy now, pay later. Ake what i would have thought. Thaa buy now, pay later. Well, exactly. This is what this is saying that you that were not looking at. You know, like a private know, small fees like a private blood which wouldnt be blood test, which wouldnt be a couple of hundred pounds. Were looking like, you couple of hundred pounds. Were lookin medical like, you couple of hundred pounds. Were lookin medical scansz, you couple of hundred pounds. Were lookin medical scans and you know, medical scans and investigations cost between investigations that cost between one people one and 25,000. And people are taking out taking up to that much money out to done. It just proves to get it done. It just proves how desperate people are to be seen, because obviously, if you think something think youve got something really with really seriously wrong with you, time the essence. Time is of the essence. Absolutely. What absolutely. And you know what is 25 if if its it 25 grand . If its if its if it saves life . Saves your life . Absolutely. Yeah, absolutely. Yeah, absolutely. You know, exactly. And tom, you know, on hand, you know, the on the one hand, you know, the observer are going to go is observer are going to go this is brazen the brazen profiteering. Its the privates, moving in. Privates, its sharks moving in. But nicky absolutely nails it. If you something if you think you have something that could be life shortening or even you would pay it. Even worse, you would pay it. And this just symptomatic and isnt this just symptomatic of fact weve got this of the fact that weve got this massive because of covid massive backlog because of covid lockdowns this is where lockdowns and this this is where were and its kind were at and its kind of inevitable . Well, i think it is. Inevitable . Well, i think it is. Think these the and i think these are the problems when got problems that when youve got a dysfunctional health service, which of you feel which regardless of how you feel about was dysfunctional about the nhs, was dysfunctional even pandemic, its even before the pandemic, its been by covid. Been exacerbated by covid. Its been exacerbated by covid. Its been by the been exacerbated by the lockdowns. I mean, its one of the lines actually, the Junior Doctors trotted out during the strikes, good. So doctors trotted out during the stri dont good. So doctors trotted out during the stri dont have good. So doctors trotted out during the stridont have a good. So doctors trotted out during the stridont have a health good. So doctors trotted out during the stridont have a health service. we dont have a health service. We waiting list , we dont have a health service. We waiting list, and we dont have a health service. We waiting list , and the we have a waiting list, and the whole set up whole system seems to be set up to basically you from to basically stop you from seeing or a clinician seeing a doctor or a clinician for long as possible. For as long as possible. 7 million on waiting lists. Huge. And this is unprecedented. By the time you you realise maybe has told there maybe your gp has told you there is you to go for is a need for you to go for a scan or something you scan or something because you may serious may have something serious thats even try and thats too late to even try and take out a private Health Insurance deal because that would then be a pre existing condition. They wouldnt cover you for so , you know, you need you for so, you know, you need money and you need it fast if youre going that. But buy youre going to do that. But buy now, deals are always now, pay later deals are always expensive arent they . Now, pay later deals are always expwell,3 arent they . Now, pay later deals are always expwell, the rent they . Now, pay later deals are always expwell, the problemy . Now, pay later deals are always expwell, the problem is, you well, the problem is, you know, the interest free, if you keep payments the minute keep up the payments the minute you the interest is you dont, the Interest Rate is crazy. You anywhere crazy. You know, anywhere between thats between 27 and 34. So thats thats the problem. And that is between 27 and 34. So thats thatworryingblem. And that is between 27 and 34. So thats thatworrying aspectand that is between 27 and 34. So thats thatworrying aspect ofd that is between 27 and 34. So thats thatworrying aspect of thisat is the worrying aspect of this story. You know, people are going to into debt very going to fall into debt very quickly cant keep to quickly if they cant keep up to those payments. Quickly if they cant keep up to those pithen1ts. Quickly if they cant keep up to those pithen theres an ethical and then theres an ethical conversation, course, because and then theres an ethical coyousation, course, because and then theres an ethical coyou are on, course, because and then theres an ethical coyou are desperate � se, because and then theres an ethical coyou are desperate by because and then theres an ethical coyou are desperate by nature ;e if you are desperate by nature and financially but and financially desperate, but if desperate if youre if youre desperate for life, then for your your life, then you would them. Yes, thats the trouble. Obviously, its what happens in know, everybody in america. You know, everybody has like so many has medical debts like so many people bills outstanding. Okay. Okay. Okay. Lets at a lovely summer lets look at a lovely summer or of Just Stop Oil protests. Yes. So the proverbial that just wont flush coming back again. So 3000 just stop. Oil supporters are planning action over the course of october in which theyre going to try and once again kind of shut london down. One of these renewed campaigns of slow marches, as they call them , trying to block they call them, trying to block roads, being traffic to a standstill. So theres even a standstill. So theres even a nice detail in here about to prepare for the assault on the caphal prepare for the assault on the capital. Just to paula, hosting a mass Youth Training session in september to september where theres going to be free vegan and a quote be free vegan food and a quote unquote, legendary rave. As nicky saying earlier, you nicky was saying earlier, if you have legendary, it have to call it legendary, it probably going to be probably isnt going to be legendary say that the legendary to say that the publics with these publics patience with these people harsh people has run out is a harsh understatement. I think sometimes too much about sometimes we talk too much about their tactics because protests is disruptive. Is supposed to be disruptive. More people be behind them more people would be behind them if the cause if they believed in the cause that campaigning for. That they were campaigning for. But the cause their but the cause of their campaigning for is make campaigning for is to make people with people worse off and colder with lower at a time when lower horizons at a time when theyre already being pummelled by crisis. So by a cost of living crisis. So i dare were to going more dare say were to going see more dissatisfaction with them on the roads and on the streets when they roll out. And i wonder, nicky ann, the nicky or indeed ann, would the idea of a of a Just Stop Oil vegan rave. Vegan rave. Vegan rave. Thank you. Oh, yes. It sounds glorious, doesnt it . Just glorious, doesnt it . Just honestly, id walk there. The vegan vegan ism only appues the vegan vegan ism only applies to like certain things ingested, should i say vegans . Certain vegans can be very selective about when theyre vegan. Yes. And theyre. Yeah absolutely. And theyre. Yeah absolutely. Ill leave it there. Or indeed when they use oil. Honestly, thats not the oh, honestly, thats not the idea of them paralysing london is its thats just terrible isnt it. And thats whats going to happen because theyre clearly going to go ahead, even though they must sense that theyre becoming unpopular. Becoming rather unpopular. Were going leave it there going to have to leave it there because we want to talk lot because we want to talk a lot about the question mark in the universe. Have you seen this . Universe. Have you seen this . Have seen it . No. No. Have you seen it . No. No. Have you seen it . No. God. Stick around. Its oh, god. Stick around. Its from james telescope. From the james Webb Telescope. We showed it you earlier in the week. Its from we showed it you earlier in the week. Its from james webb week. Its from the james Webb Telescope. Duper telescope. That super duper telescope. That super duper telescope orbit. And its telescope up in orbit. And its been looking out into deep space andifs been looking out into deep space and its been looking at well, it came up with this picture. And you see there in the daily mail that theyve highlighted one little area which like one little area which isnt like any of star or any other sort of star or whatever. The exact whatever. Its in the exact shape of a question mark. And of course, that begs the question , course, that begs the question, is there anybody out there . What is there anybody out there . What question is it asking us . Apparently, according to the experts, it could be two merging galaxies with one being sort of stretched out by the gravity of the other. But it doesnt explain why it looks like a question us. Question mark to us. It could just be some random stars certain shape. Stars in a certain shape. Nevertheless lets spoil nevertheless lets not spoil the allure joining us allure of the story. Joining us now is space and planetary scientist andy lound. Good morning , andy. So, yeah, morning to you, andy. So, yeah, the question is , what is the the question is, what is the question mark signify . What is it . It . Yeah. Good morning. Both yes, its exciting , isnt it really . Its exciting, isnt it really . The interesting thing about this is, course, its what the is, of course, its not what the webb looking for. Webb telescope was looking for. It actually looking it was actually looking at a pair of in their early pair of stars in their early formation. To formation. And just to the bottom right of it, you suddenly saw this question mark shape, which line of sight effect. Which is a line of sight effect. I if you look at the image i mean, if you look at the image carefully and then look, two images, right and left of it, you see on the left of it, you have these wonderful spiral galaxies which are closer us, galaxies which are closer to us, to right of it. You have a to the right of it. You have a little amber coloured little fuzzy bit thats actually the sort of shape youre looking at at the top part of the question mark. And its actually angled onto a slightly and then the bottom, the. Of it, of the bottom, the. Of it, of the question mark is another galaxy which is interacting with, with this main galaxy and its dragging off parts of the spiral arms of it. So what youre seeing is as opposed to the galaxy, you can see on the left, were seeing it face on what were seeing it face on what were looking at is a galaxy tilted to us with its spiral arm being away. Because being pulled away. And because it us the line of sight it gives us the line of sight effect of question mark of effect of a question mark and of course , its unlikely the course, its unlikely the question mark did exist at all in the universe at the stage. This was it. I mean, thats going to be hundreds of millions of light years away. So its an awful Long Distance from us. But its one of these great things that the humans can do is to is to look at shapes and objects and associate them with ourselves. But its an interesting thing because it does pose the question. The universe a question mark, universe is a question mark, isnt it . What is out there or who is out there and why it is out there . I mean, if you believe your hitchhikers guide to they to the galaxy, then they would say it was put on there on purpose. Absolutely. And if there were anywhere , any little green men anywhere, any little green men or other intelligent species on a planet somewhere very, very far flung, a different aspect of the universe, they would be looking at the same thing and not seeing the question mark that were seeing. Can i ask you about j. Sorry, am right about the j. Sorry, am i right there . It would look like there . It would not look like absolutely right. Perfect. Perfect description. Can i ask about the james Webb Telescope . Because us ordinary mortals looked at the pictures delivered from hubble and they were brilliant enough. And i look at brilliant enough. And i look at some of these pictures from james webb, and i dont see the difference. But to you, a space difference. But to you, a space scientist , i mean, difference. But to you, a space scientist, i mean, is the james Webb Telescope providing better information , more remarkable information, more remarkable pictures to you . Yes they are, because theyre looking in the theyre looking in a different wavelength. This is really important. Theyre looking at a different wavelength. Theyre looking at the infrared, something the Near Infrared, something hubble couldnt do. Hubble looked wavelengths looked in in other wavelengths in the infrared, but but not the same level. And it was looking in white light images. Same level. And it was looking in white light images. These are in white light images. These are near images which Near Infrared images which are then so youre then processed out. So youre getting details from getting out more details from objects which are more distant. Objects which are more distant. So seeing which so youre seeing objects which are further away. Youre also getting more details out of objects actually objects which are actually closer to us. One of the images they this is they released this week is probably one of the greatest images ever released was of the of planetary called m50 of a planetary nebula called m50 seven,. Seven, where a star exploded. And for instance, to and were able, for instance, to see bubbles see Molecular Hydrogen bubbles coming away from that which the hubble couldnt really in hubble couldnt really see in the that the webb can the detail that the webb can actually do. So yes , it is actually do. So yes, it is through people just looking at it thinking, well, isnt it the same sort of images . And you go, well, no, the devils in the detail. Enlarge these images detail. You enlarge these images and much images and theyre much bigger images than as than the hubble is doing as well. Can see far well. You can actually see far more detail. And also more structural detail. And also the on are the instruments on board are measuring finer degree that measuring to a finer degree that the hubble could actually do. So yes, these are far, far better things. And of course, bear in things. And of course, bear in mind , weve looked at this, the mind, weve looked at this, the double star Star Formation here before. And that question mark image would have been there at the bottom corner, but we havent seen it before. Why and thats simply because the Webb Telescope much better. Telescope is so much better. And course, the big well, and of course, the big question is , is there question mark is, is there anybody out there you know, we saw this week meteorites saw earlier this week meteorites with with alloys on them, which people are claiming have to be from outside out of the normal creation system is earth , do you creation system is earth, do you think, spectacularly unique or in all the billions and billions of other systems out there, could there be life out there . I think for the mathematical point of view, theres got to be extraterrestrial civilisations out there, intelligent ones. I mean, you just look at that one image alone. And one of most of image alone. And one of most of those images, the ones without the spikes , are actually the spikes, are actually galaxies of billions of stars in each. And there are billions upon billions of galaxies and its just incomprehensible to think that intelligent life hasnt arisen on any of these through the huge history of the universe itself. The difficulty is , is actually finding them in is, is actually finding them in community, creating with them. Thats the hardest part. Youre looking for a specific grain of sand and all the beaches and all the world. And thats actually quite a difficult thing to do. And in fact, its actually harder in the case of finding extraterrestrial life. I think from a common sense point of view, point view, mathematics, point of view, theres got to be extraterrestrials there extraterrestrials out there possibly very different to ourselves, probably looking in ourselves, probably looking in our. An but whether or our direction. An but whether or not find them becomes very not we find them becomes very difficult. A difficult. And i have a suspicion actually havent suspicion we actually havent come them as yet, but come across them as yet, but theyve got to be out there. Just think what a wonderful thing would if we were thing that would be if we were able another species out able to find another species out there, an intelligent species. But think of the exchange. People talk about diversity down here. Think for here. Think of that for diversity. Could diversity. What we could exchange. Exchange. George, i dont know where the conversation would even start. Always good to start. Andy its always good to talk to you. Thank you so much. And wonderful see that and wonderful to see that photograph. You much photograph. Thank you very much for that amazing photograph from james webb. Brilliant. James webb. Brilliant. I find that sort of so , so i find that sort of so, so fascinating. You know, maybe that mark a sign. That question mark is a sign. Maybe theyre saying, were out here, come and talk to us. A coincidence. Its a coincidence. Its a coincidence. But there oh but but there we go. Oh yeah. But i i agree totally with i mean, i agree totally with andy mathematically andy that mathematically there has life and but but has to be other life and but but it would have to coincident coincidentally exist at the same time as us at a point where we could communicate. I mean, how would that happen . Itd have to be an enormous co incidence. However, you talking, however, it keeps you talking, doesnt it . Its lovely to be with morning. Stick with you this morning. Do stick with you this morning. Do stick with more to with us plenty more to talk about. Looks like things are heating up. Boxed boilers, proud sponsors of weather on. Gb news. Sponsors of weather on. Gb news. Good morning. My name sponsors of weather on. Gb news. Good morning. My name is rachel ayers and welcome to your latest gb news Weather Forecast brought to you by the met office. Well, today will be a more of a day of sunshine and showers with lighter winds around saw around than what we saw yesterday. Yesterdays storm yesterday. Yesterdays storm anthony moving away anthony is already moving away to the southeast, but could still bring some and still bring some cloud and blustery conditions to parts of east through this morning east anglia through this morning. Elsewhere, see cloud and. Elsewhere, well see cloud and showers soon bubbling up and these could be heavy in a few places across scotland. Northern england and with a chance of the odd thunderstorm across Northern Ireland. Were feeling much more pleasant today compared pleasant today as well compared to those to yesterday with those temperatures just creeping into the low the south. Now, the low 20s in the south. Now, as we go through the rest of this afternoon and into the evening, well see those showers starting to ease, becoming more confined to Northern Areas and plenty of clear spells around now with clear spells and lighter winds. Well see those temperatures dropping just a little bit more readily tonight. So towns and cities generally clinging on to those double figures, but more widely seeing temperatures mid single temperatures into the mid single figures in rural areas. This figures in rural areas. This will mean itll be a bright but chilly start to the new week. Chilly start to the new week. Plenty of sunshine around that could still be the odd shower developing heaviest across northern and eastern parts of scotland. But with those light scotland. But with those light winds and that sunshine around feeling even more pleasant as we go into the new week with those temperatures just starting to climb, a little bit more into the 20s with of 23 in the the 20s with a high of 23 in the south east and looks like things are heating up. Are heating up. Boxed boilers proud sponsors of weather on. And megan of snapped up the rights to turn a best selling book into a movie after they were ditched by spotify for reportedly failing to meet productivity requirements. Productivity requirements. And angry greek locals have launched what theyre calling the Towel Movement on british tourist hotspots. They say their beautiful beaches have been taken over by sunbed hoggers and now other tourists and even the locals have got nowhere to go and sunbathe. Wed like to know, have you ever been a sunbed hogger. Hoggen and i certainly have. But anyway, how will the weather look like for today . Youve got to be better than yesterday. Heres rachel ayers from the met office with update. Office with an update. An unsettled start to it was an unsettled start to the weekend with storm anthony crossing the uk, but it looks like a drier and brighter second half for across the uk. Join half for us across the uk. Join me later for a full forecast with all the details. With all the details. Yeah, we want to know when the weather is going to get better. Good morning to you. Its lovely to be with you this sunday anne sunday morning. Im anne diamond. Daubney diamond. And im Martin Daubney and breakfast on. And this is breakfast on. Gb news. Steve says morning, steve. Sunbed hogging doesnt always end well. I remember as sunbed hogging doesnt always end well. I remember as a sunbed hogging doesnt always end well. I remember as a child end well. I remember as a child seeing folk claiming the sunbeds from the restaurant at breakfast, but my dad then went down after breakfast and threw for beds and the belongings into the pool and then got them out for our use. For our use. Thats a classic dad moment on holiday , isnt it . On holiday, isnt it . Of those things where one of those things where youve had enough . Rage. Sunbed rage. Yeah. Dad. Rage. Sunbed rage. For havent been for those who havent been watching. Am sunbed watching earlier. I am a sunbed huggen watching earlier. I am a sunbed hugger. I send my children down. Im like the artful dodger. Get down your down there before your breakfast. Yep, yep. Breakfast. But, yep, yep. Theyre do that. Then i sort theyre do that. And then i sort of do secure them day. Ive of do secure them all day. Ive even known to bribe the even been known to bribe the poolside fella with odd poolside fella with the odd cerveza or to make sure you cerveza or two to make sure you cant even get round it that way. Because i thought if more hotels employ their, hotels should employ their, their guy actually say their pool guy to actually say no, you know, two hours maximum three hours hogging a sunbed or Something Like that. After that, your belongings will be moved. But, but say that you can but, but you say that you can bribe some of these guys. Bribe some of these guys. The local wages, well, on the local wages, those are lets just say those guys are lets just say theyre definitely open to a bit of persuasion. The we heard i like the idea we heard earlier from who goes earlier from somebody who goes to where you to sandals resort, where you can. I imagine you have to pay a bit extra, have a butler. Its like a concierge sort of floor in the hotel or something. And you can pay the butler to go out and reserve sunbeds for you. And reserve sunbeds for you. See, theyre getting but you see, theyre getting other people to do their dirty work for them. And theyre making thats posh. Work for them. And theyre maki|the thats posh. Work for them. And theyre maki|the kids thats posh. Work for them. And theyre maki|the kids there ts posh. Work for them. And theyre maki|the kids there on posh. Work for them. And theyre maki|the kids there on the]. Send the kids there on the payroll too. And people agree with me on this. And mark lee says here, i support martin. Martin is absolutely right. If you cant beat them, join them. Yeah, diane in nottingham says on cruises , ive seen people get on cruises, ive seen people get up at sillier clock to bag one in the sun and one in the shade, and thats greedy that that is what you call multitasking. Thinking ahead to the arc of the sun. See, even for me, thats next level hogging. But this is a good one. An anonymous viewer. And youll see in a moment why they remain anonymous. We were in spain. In a moment why they remain anonytime. We were in spain. In a moment why they remain anonytime ago were in spain. In a moment why they remain anonytime ago ande in spain. In a moment why they remain anonytime ago and the spain. In a moment why they remain anonytime ago and the sunbed some time ago and the sunbed huggers every day. We huggers were out every day. We managed to clear one half of the pool area with a sprinkle of itching powder. What itching powder. What i understand an investigation was launched, but the culprits were never found. Thats something that the beano or the dandy . Yeah, its. It worked. Yeah, but its. It worked. Yeah, but its. It worked. Great stuff. Great stuff. Anyway, were going to be talking about this in a few minutes time because as some resorts are trying to do something about it, some locals, particularly in the greek islands , are getting together to islands, are getting together to try something about it try and do something about it because theyre finding that even locals living near even they, as locals living near the , cant get on to the the beach, cant get on to the beach in the certainly cant get a sunbed on their own beach, if you were people you like, because were people like. Well, taking over, to like you. Well, taking over, to be fair , theres now an be fair, theres now an organised racket going on. So what it is local companies are getting in. Its a bit like buying up the tickets for buying up all the tickets for a gig buying up all the tickets for a gig. Theyre up all the gig. Theyre buying up all the sunbeds then selling them on sunbeds and then selling them on at a mark up for me an the at a mark up see for me an the locals and the tourists are getting that one. Getting stung by that one. Locals on the tories, the the locals on the tories, the locals, the locals and the tourists. Oh, i thought you said tourists. Oh, i thought you said tourists tourists. Now tourists and the tourists. Now politics comes in to sunbeds. Youre a tory tourist, if youre a tory tourist, then youre getting done over too. Reminds you a bit as well it reminds you a bit as well of lovely British Seaside of those lovely British Seaside resorts lines of resorts with their lines of beautiful deckchairs. No, the. Well, too. But im thinking well, that too. But im thinking of beach oh, yeah. You of the beach huts. Oh, yeah. You cant get a hut for love cant get a beach hut for love nor money. They go for a fortune. Well, they sell for a fortune. Well, they sell for a fortune and they rent for a fortune. So, i mean, its. And its impossible to its absolutely impossible to get your hands on one, which is such because that was such a shame, because that was really civilised. Having a little hut. If you in little beach hut. If you live in one of those areas where beach huts are just impossible to get hold youll feel hold of, yeah, youll feel youll feel it too. So lets go on to politics now, shall we . Yeah. And the home secretary has accused starmer of trying accused keir starmer of trying to sabotage her attempts to end the illegal immigration crisis. Yes, Suella Braverman claims the labour leader has a web of cronies who are blocking any efforts to stop small boat crossings from calais. Well, we certainly know its a problem for her at moment. Anything for her at the moment. Anything she up with seems to be she comes up with seems to be stymied somebody. Our stymied by somebody. Our Political Correspondent olivia utley bournemouth this utley is in bournemouth this morning. There, olivia. I morning. Hello there, olivia. I mean. Yes. Has Suella Braverman got a point . Got a point . Well, yes, i think she has put keir starmer on the back foot a little bit. Her argument is that one of the lawyers involved in helping write labours 2024, 2025 election manifesto, a woman called Jacqueline Mckenzie has been heavily involved in anti rwanda scheme. So there are some scheme. So there are some pressure groups, lots of lawyers, human rights lawyers who are working together to try and put as many blocks as they can on Suella Braverman scheme to get migrants deported from britain to rwanda when they come here illegally, get their get their claims processed in rwanda rather than here. So its not really a question of keir starmer himself being particularly adverse to the scheme, although labour has voted against it before, its more that once again and youll remember when keir starmer was accused of being in bed with Just Stop Oil the people who keir starmer is associated with seem to rather rather like the cause of Illegal Migrants to the uk. That said, keir starmer has uk. That said, keir starmer has hit back saying that Suella Braverman is only saying this because she herself is on the back foot. Keir starmer is saying that the tories have actually failed to deport Illegal Migrants quickly enough, which is very interesting in itself because it shows yet again that perhaps on this issue there isnt that much clear blue water between the tories and labour. Water between the tories and labour. Keir water between the tories and labour. Keir starmers argument isnt that Suella Braverman is really doing anything wrong. Its just that shes not carrying out her own policies quickly enough and he is saying that labour in her shoes would be doing things better and more efficiently. So itll be really interesting where this interesting to see where this argument progresses because yes , illegal migration is a political hot potato at the moment, but both sides are actually pretty close to each other. Yeah. And olivia, this is the front page of the sunday express today. Thats where this exclusive has come from. And theres theres an theres also theres an extraordinary attack in extraordinary personal attack in this article where braverman has said have of keir starmer that he has successfully campaigned to halt this governments attempts to deport vile foreign criminals, including rapists and murderers, which is a total betrayal of their victims. Betrayal of their victims. Shes, of course, referring to a flight in december 2020 that was grounded with 23 criminals on board to jamaica, one of whom went on to murder. Is this a taste of what you think we can expect to come . We saw a couple of weeks ago look for these wedge issues. This is quite dirty politics. Do you think the British Public would like this . British public would like this . I think it absolutely is dirty politics. We are already seeing the gloves coming off before the general election. And anyone who follows politics closely will know that that always happens. But usually its always happens. But usually its a little bit closer to a general election where Something Like a year out moment. I think year out at the moment. I think that, as you this is that, yes, as you say, this is one those wedge issues the one of those wedge issues the tories that they tories want to show that they are party that cares about are the party that cares about illegal immigration as sort illegal immigration and as sort of suella of aggressive as Suella Braverman can be, the better as far as shes concerned because poll after poll and focus group after group show that the after focus group show that the British Public very keen on British Public are very keen on getting handle on illegal getting a handle on illegal immigration. And if the tories can sort own that issue, as can sort of own that issue, as it were, thatll really good it were, thatll be really good for Electoral Prospects as well. Thats the point. I suppose thats the point. I suppose if youre a voter , and if youre a voter, and especially if youre a floating voter and this issue is important to you, youre going to be having to decide which which party you trust to actually get anything done. And while keir starmer is saying hell be more effective, hes to has to admit that hell come up against the same band of human rights lawyers who will oppose his every move to. Well exactly. His every move to. Well exactly. And thats the argument that Suella Braverman is making. Essentially what keir starmer is saying is, well, the tories have beenin saying is, well, the tories have been in power for 13 years. You might like they say on might like what they say on illegal immigration , but have illegal immigration, but have they done anything they actually done anything effective . Surely youre better off. Im untested. Off with me. Im untested. At least might get it to work. Least i might get it to work. Whereas Suella Braverman is saying okay, keir starmer talks the talk. He says hes going to do things effectively, but do things more effectively, but look people who hes look at the people who hes hanging with. Look at hanging around with. Look at jacqueline perfect Jacqueline Mckenzie. A perfect example human example of one of those human rights who is very keen rights lawyers who is very keen to block the rwanda scheme. And its first time shes its not the first time shes criticised keir starmer for being on illegal being too soft on Illegal Migrants. There was a time, a few months labour was few months ago when labour was proposing policy to make it proposing a policy to make it easier migrants to work in easier for migrants to work in the uk before theyve got licence remain here and licence to remain here and Suella Braverman accused keir starmer of incentivising Illegal Migrants to come over here. So yes , its certainly a real wedge yes, its certainly a real wedge issue and something that Suella Braverman is going to go very, very hard on all the way from now until the general election next year. Yeah yep. No, no. Olivia makes you wonder if attacking your opponent is going to deliver on this issue because the facts are the facts. And if we judge the conservatives on their ability to take back control of our borders and stop the boats, theyve measurably failed. July was the biggest month on record, 3300 people made the journey in 63 boats, an average of 52 migrants per vessel is attacking starmer, going to be enough, or are they both basically just as bad as each other . Well yeah. Bad as each other . Well yeah. It doesnt feel as though attacking starmer is going to be enough for the conservatives at the moment. As we as we know, although the polls do show that the British Public are very keen on illegal immigration the British Public are very keen on controlagal immigration the British Public are very keen on control byl immigration the British Public are very keen on control by far]migration the British Public are very keen on control by far a]igration the British Public are very keen on control by far a minority under control by far a minority thinks that rishi sunak is handung thinks that rishi sunak is handling the situation effectively. Now one does feel a little bit sorry for rishi sunak. He has been working very hard on this. Hes had his rwanda plan on the table for a very long time. Hes got lot of long time. Hes got a lot of hurdles climb over until we hurdles to climb over until we actually see migrants deported to rwanda. But yes, as you say, if you just look at the track record rather than the insults being flung around at the moment , it doesnt feel as though the tories have handle on this. Tories have a handle on this. Camilla sorry, not camilla. Its olivia. Thank you very much indeed. Its olivia. Thank you very much indeed. And i said camilla indeed. And i said camilla because i was just reminding everybody youre in everybody that youre in bournemouth morning for the bournemouth this morning for the Camilla Tominey show, arent you . Which comes up at 930. Its lovely to see you there. Its not quite as sunny as it should be, but it looks a bit promising. I used to work just up the road from where you are now on the bournemouth. Echo give bournemouth my love. Thanks now on the bournemouth. Echo give much. Emouth my love. Thanks now on the bournemouth. Echo give much. Olivia] my love. Thanks now on the bournemouth. Echo give much. Olivia oh, love. Thanks now on the bournemouth. Echo give much. Olivia oh, super. Thanks very much. Olivia oh, super. You. Thank you. Thank you. Yes, it was a good yeah. Yes, it was a good place. Its funny youre talking. Were going to be talking. Were going to be talking about sunbeds in a couple. Yes, we are. I worked on the bournemouth and during the bournemouth echo and during the bournemouth echo and during the a fairly junior the summer i was a fairly junior reporter and the news editor used come and go used to come up and say, go looking story. I want to, looking for a story. I want to, you know, go along beach. You know, go along the beach. And he would just send me walk along the beach because sooner or see a story. Or later youd see a story. Kind of do you find . Well, it would be a wonderful picture story. Children building some i dont know, some wonderful, i dont know, donkey ice and donkey tea and ice creams and sometimes, mind you, i think even days, would even in those days, you would have pictures sunbed have got pictures of sunbed huggers. Wow. And huggers. Wow. Yeah. And bournemouth very, bournemouth beach can get very, very of hogging, very crowded history of hogging, but was yeah, was a lovely but it was yeah, it was a lovely place work. Old place to work. Good old bournemouth what bournemouth and thats what were about. Were going to talk about. Sunbed hogging. Been sunbed hogging. Weve been talking about all morning talking about it all morning long. Controversial isnt long. And controversial isnt it . Because some people say they they disapprove of sunbed hoggers like martin is a self confessed , but they only do self confessed, but they only do it because everybody else does it. And if you dont, then you know , youre left sitting on the know, youre left sitting on the sand. You snooze, you lose. You snooze, you lose. Well, there you go. Each yean well, there you go. Each year, the sunbed wars apparently break out at resorts all over the world and certainly through europe, where the demand for loungers outstrips the supply. Yeah, the bid to stop night time guerrilla tactics. Some time guerrilla tactics. Some hotels remove any towels placed on deckchairs before a certain time, but thats only encourages yet more tactics. Indeed. Stay where you are. Indeed. Stay where you are. Were going to be talking about that in a second. Are we are we talking about it now . No, were talking about it now . No, were talking about it now. Were going to talk to mark palmer, whos the travel editor for the daily mail and the mail on sunday. And, you know, all about this, you . Very good this, dont you . Very good morning you. Morning to you. Good morning. Good morning. Good morning. Good morning. Well, i went out on on wednesday afternoon to this hotel near torremolinos just to find out what was what was going on, because as you have said, there have been some alarming reports from the front line. And it was from the front line. And it was a very it was a very interesting experience. And it was not as gruesome as i had expected in that particular hotel because they had some sort of a scheme in place. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yes. So this was a four star hotel. Its been in in most of the papers. There had been pictures of people queuing for a couple of hours in the morning. Now, the thing about in spain, there is a law by which if you have a Swimming Pool or in this case Swimming Pools, plural, um, they have to be fenced off. Overni right. And whenever there isnt a lifeguard on duty. So that means there is a certain point of time in the day , in the point of time in the day, in the morning when the gates open. And so inevitably that means theres going to be a bit of a crush. Now, this hotel, the gates were opening at 10 00 up until august the 1st. Not quite sure why. And the 1st. Not quite sure why. And then on august the 1st, they decreed that, in fact, theyd start opening the gates at at 9 00. And so the queue did start to build up , 9 00. And so the queue did start to build up, you know, about an hour and hour and a half before that. But in some ways you can understand that in that if youve got this is your precious weeks holiday in the sun with your family, you maybe got young children, you want a spot in the shade, you want spot you know, shade, you want a spot you know, near the pool. Oh, weve lost you. Oh, weve lost you. In fact, were looking at video at the moment. If youre listening on the radio, im sure youve seen this video. Its sort of gone viral, as they say, of people absolutely. Running once theyre let inside the fences. Mark was talking about once theyre let inside the fences. Mark was talking about. Absolutely. Running for a decent spot and then theyre going to hog it. Have we got mark back . Hog it. Have we got mark back . No, were still were still youre of a certain age as i am i that looks like the harrods sale. Yes. Remember that on sale. Yes. Remember that on boxing day . It looks exactly like people people steam through the doors, look them there, knock everybody else going for else over, and theyre going for a spot at throwing towels a best spot at throwing towels like a dambusters bomb. I think weve got you back, mark. Havent we . Yeah. Im so sorry yeah. Im sorry. Im so sorry. Was just checking on my. I was just checking on my sunbed at that very moment. Yeah. Yeah. Somebody came in and was going yours off. But, going to get yours off. You but, i thats the point is we i mean, thats the point is we weve been talking the weve been talking through the morning hotels and morning of various hotels and resorts people trying to resorts and people trying to stop the sunbed. Hoggers but it appears that, you know, they people will do anything and theyll find ways around the rules. If rules are set. Yes , absolutely. And i think yes, absolutely. And i think for some of these resorts, the one i was in, in particular for part of the problem was that they had no beach aspect. So everybody was crowded into the area around the Swimming Pools. And so its one thing to bag a sunbed early in the morning. The problem comes when then people try to hog it for the entire day. So they might go shopping, they might go into town for lunch and they still got their books and their bags or whatever on the now does seem on the bed. Now that does seem out order. So this particular out of order. So this particular hotel, theyve started this new its called the 45 minute rule, where if youre away from your sunbed for more than 45 minutes, then they take they remove your towel and give the sunbed to somebody else. Somebody else. But apparently you can bribe those people to actually see things from your point of view. Yeah im sure on some of the on some of the beaches, im sure the locals and i suppose its market forces, theres suddenly a new market has opened up that you hire somebody and say, you can hire somebody and say, look, you £5 if you look, ill give you £5 if you just sort of hang around for me. So yeah, its as you were saying and its an annual story. Its just that this year it seems i dont know what it is. Maybe were so maybe its because were so desperate sunshine desperate to see some sunshine and get it right. But it does seem to have escalated this yeah seem to have escalated this year. Whos got the worst reputation , mark . Reputation, mark . The germans. You the germans. You is that true . Is that true . Is that true . Is it germans . Is it germans . A terrible stereotype. I cant believe thats been said. Cant believe thats been said. And, um. But the thing about us is that we are actually were very civilised. The queue was amazing. One lady said to me, just give us a queue and well, well, well, well join it. I mean we, its, its part of our sort of psyche. Were and everybody was, was kind of quite jovial. There was a lot of chat going um, and there was going on. Um, and there was a few french people, they got a little stroppy to be fair little bit stroppy to be fair and actually there were very few germans at this particular resort. But obviously we like to we like to maintain that the germans, they are very greedy when it comes to sunbeds and i think we should we should maintain that tradition of blaming the germans on this escalating crisis. Yes mark, tell us about another story you have on the mail onune story you have on the mail online here, this extraordinary story of Towel Movement. Story of the Towel Movement. This is actually it sounds like an organised racket of businessmen in buying up the sun loungers in advance, selling them at a mark up. And thats offending both the locals in greece and the british tourists. So this has now gone into a full scale escalation even of a price warfare. Warfare. Well, absolutely. But i suppose you could say that perhaps even in the sort of thatcherite era that this is taking advantage of , theres a taking advantage of, theres a gap in the market and people are trying to plug it. But yeah, clearly the police will get involved i suppose at some stage if thats happening, if theyre just sort of going along and hiring people and taking towels and as you say , buying up the and as you say, buying up the sunbeds. I did think sunbeds. I mean, i did think actually that, you actually that myself, that, you know you could just go and buy know, you could just go and buy ten sunbeds and shove it on the beach spot and beach in a beautiful spot and charge people. I mean, in some ways, whats wrong with that . An idea and yeah, this is an idea and very before we say goodbye to you, the Prime Minister of rhodes seems to be offering people who were evacuated because of the fires recently. Because of the fires recently. He seems to be offering them a free weeks holiday in rhodes next year. Yeah, absolutely. No, i saw yeah, absolutely. No, i saw that. And that was very gratifying. Then when one actually digs a little bit deepehit actually digs a little bit deeper, it doesnt seem to be very clear how thats exactly going to work. And if you talk to some of the tour operators, jet2 or or they find that jet2 or or tui, they find that a very interesting pronouncement , very interesting pronouncement, but also unclear how thats actually going to happen. Actually going to happen. Yeah, well have to hold him to his word. Yeah, hes saying either a week in the spring or in the fall, so not in the peak season, but nevertheless an extraordinary offer , an extraordinary offer, an extraordinary offer, an extraordinary piece of generosity. If it comes through. Yeah, well keep its great generosity, its great generosity , but its terrific pragmatism as well because absolutely. As well because absolutely. Yes. I mean , whats happened yes. I mean, whats happened must must be such a blow for them because the travel industry is their major earner, isnt it . And people will fear going back in case there are similar fires. So hes just trying to say were still open for business, come and come and see us. Yeah, well, im not sure that they will all fear going back. I think a lot of people will actually feel they want to really give Something Back to the island where theyve had such a wonderful time and therell be a sense of loyalty about the place, think. Yeah about the place, i think. Yeah to talk to you. Im great to talk to you. Im glad we stuck with you and we managed to keep you on air. Thank you very much indeed. Mark thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Its thank you. Its a thank you. Its a serious business, isnt it . Well, its a serious business. Its i know it sounds trivial, except that its not. No, its causing problems. Its spoiling holidays. Spoiling some peoples holidays. I its almost i mean, i think its almost breaking in around the breaking out in war around the pool breaking out in war around the pool. People are pool. And lots of people are getting in touch saying all hotels and resorts have to do is have sunbeds as they do have as many sunbeds as they do guests. Wouldnt work. Guests. But that wouldnt work. I dont you could you i dont think you could you couldnt have enough room around the pool for many sunbeds the pool for that many sunbeds but wouldnt be in but they wouldnt be in the right place either. Ive got right place either. No, ive got to mean, you want to bag to say, i mean, you want to bag a good place. A really good place. Yeah, i think mark being yeah, i think mark was being naive when he said, just naive as well when he said, just go ten sunbeds and slap go and buy ten sunbeds and slap them because it would them down because then it would all kick off. Yes. It really would. It really would. It really would. It really would all kick off then because this a tightly then because this is a tightly controlled business and a hotel i in malta. I was recently in in malta. Were some very prime there were some very prime places had the sun nearly places that had the sun nearly all there were other all day, but there were other places would lose places where you would just lose the thats where they the sun and thats where they stayed and there no stayed empty. And there was no room to move them into the sunny areas. Youve precisely areas. And now youve precisely identified go and bag identified why people go and bag sunbeds theyre sunbeds early because theyre primo sunbeds early because theyre priryeah. Youve got to if yeah. And youve got to if you snooze you lose up with the locks, send down the kids. Thats it. Thats why i do it. I still think its selfish to hold to all day. Well, hold on to them all day. Well, unless youre going to lie on them but, you know, to them all day. But, you know, to keep your stuff them when you keep your stuff on them when you go for siesta or for go off for a siesta or for a little shopping trip or just for lunch, im not sure thats right. Anyway, touch right. Anyway, keep in touch with us what you with us and tell us what you think. Confess if you are think. Do confess if you are a sunbed hugger, wed love to hear from you. Thats gb views. Gbnews. Com. Should we find out about our weather . About our weather . That warm feeling inside from boxt boilers proud sponsors of weather on. 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Stay where you are because weve got the are because weve got all the showbiz news up showbiz news coming up morning again. Its 828. Youre watching and listening to breakfast here on gb news with anne and martin and alison and phil are watching us from the east coast of australia where they live. They say were just cooking a roast pork dinner and its just gone 5 pm. We watch the show most days and absolutely love it. Roast. Lovely to be with roast pork in australia. That sounds absolutely divine. Yeah. Yeah , absolutely. Yeah, absolutely. Yeah, absolutely. Stephanie takyi has well, Stephanie Takyi has joined us now, catching up on, you know what what were all talking about in the world of showbiz gossip strictly showbiz and gossip and strictly come dancing as announced a couple yes there are more couple more. Yes there are more names that have been added to the list. So yesterday we were talking about rippon , amanda about angela rippon, Amanda Abbington williams, about angela rippon, amanda abbi are n williams, about angela rippon, amanda abbi are the williams, about angela rippon, amanda abbi are the first williams, about angela rippon, amanda abbi are the first three williams, who are the first three contestants whove been announced. Now were going to have krishan have a newsreader. Krishan guru murphy, whos been murphy, murti, whos been announced. He says hes very excited joining the line excited to be joining the line up. That feeling up. He says that hes feeling quite like hes getting older and he feels like he only live once, so hes very happy to join the line up. So it will the strictly line up. So it will be quite interesting how angela does how kishan is, because does and how kishan is, because youve two newsreaders as youve got two newsreaders as well. Well. And yeah, yeah. So although we know that angela is a brilliant dancer. Yes. Yes. I know w know krishna i dont know about krishna and whether he looks like a mover and a shaker. He says hes not a great no, he says hes not a great danceh no, he says hes not a great dancer. Again, thats dancer. But again, thats the fun strictly how fun of strictly seeing how people do on the dance floor. Some people how they learn things. Sometimes you do things. And you sometimes you do get card, sometimes in get that wild card, sometimes in strictly someone going strictly of someone whos going to i remember a few to win. Like i remember a few years won and years ago, bill bailey won and people oh, he wouldnt years ago, bill bailey won and pe0jthat oh, he wouldnt years ago, bill bailey won and pe0jthat well, oh, he wouldnt years ago, bill bailey won and pe0jthat well, and], he wouldnt years ago, bill bailey won and pe0jthat well, and hedwouldnt years ago, bill bailey won and pe0jthat well, and hed doneint years ago, bill bailey won and pe0jthat well, and hed done an last that well, and hed done an amazing job with oti mabuse. So lets see that goes. And lets see how that goes. And a name potentially is going name that potentially is going to is daniel to be announced today is daniel sturridge, former liverpool player. Every he used to player. Every time he used to score, do the snake score, he used to do the snake dance. I think thats caught dance. And i think thats caught the eyes of bosses. So, the eyes of strictly bosses. So, you as i said yesterday, you know, as i said yesterday, there to strictly there is a formula to strictly they tick the boxes. They always tick the boxes. Theyll the person, theyll get the news person, theyll get the sports person. So hopefully will be daniel sturridge. I feel i like watching sport stars do strictly, especially blokes, theyre really blokes, because theyre really out of their comfort zone and they have to unlearn how to be, you stiff brusque and you know, stiff and brusque and all of it. So to be fluid. But theyre very competitive. But theyre very competitive. They are indeed. Yeah. And interestingly about about christian guru murthy very outspoken opinions on outspoken on his opinions on brexit, but he is i wonder if that may the public that may affect the public affection on his dancing. It might on the voting. Yes. Yes. Just saying yeah, because he was taken off air. He was from channel 4, i think it was last yeah channel 4, i think it was last year. So he is a bit of a controversial so maybe controversial figure. So maybe hell hearts of hell warm the hearts of everybody watching. Theres this fascinating story with brit box, story i find with brit box, which a streaming channel which is a streaming channel now, which specialises in british stuff. Yeah the way they are now going to market some of the programmes that theyre going to show. Yeah, sometimes. Going to show. Yeah, sometimes. And i have to ask, have we just become too sensitive as a society and is that why streaming Services Like britbox are now putting warnings on everything . So i think most of our viewers might have watched wolf hall, which based on wolf hall, which was based on henry the eighth relationship with boleyn. We with his wife, anne boleyn. We all happened to her. All know what happened to her. She got executed 15. She got executed in 15. Huge 86. I mean, huge 86. I mean, huge 86. Britbox have put a but now britbox have put a warning on all the series saying that its it contains scenes of violence. Yeah you know, and thats not the only period drama thats not the only period drama thats getting a warning actually. Scenes of violence. I mean, yes, you do see. Yeah. Yeah. The beheading scene, but you dont see the violence of it. No, you dont implied violence in the drama. Itsjust violence in the drama. Its just it is just treating everybody like a child , isnt everybody like a child, isnt it . It is. If one of the most famous kings in the history of humanity who had a penchant for giving wives literally the giving his wives literally the chop. Yeah. If you need to be told yeah. Told that. Yeah. If need to be warned if you need to be warned about it. What else they well, what else are they warning. W w well, now theyre also looking the series of poirot looking at the series of poirot and theyve got and theyre saying theyve got 27 that and theyre 27 episodes of that and theyre saying contains ons, again, saying it contains ons, again, scenes violence, warning scenes of violence, warning references suicide and nudity references to suicide and nudity as well. And its quite bad. And its quite bad. But he was a detective who investigates murders in every episode. What you expect and you know , the time when all these films and coming and these series were coming out, an issue. So out, there wasnt an issue. So why they do warnings on it is why do they do warnings on it is because they say theyre reflecting society at the moment. So as i said, it asks the big question maybe viewers have become too sensitive, which personally think they have. Are they going to shown are they going to be shown Downton Abbey . Put warning on that theyve put a warning on that as well for scenes. Theres a housemaid in there who gets raped. And one of the scenes. So again flagged warning again, theyve flagged a warning on what do you on that as well. What do you think . On that as well. What do you thiris too much . Is that too much . Is that too much . Well, because i think what happens britbox is jointly run by and the itv. And you by the bbc and the itv. And you do sometimes when they do do sometimes get when they do put shows out, lots of complaints come through. So i think what these broadcasters are theyre trying are doing, theyre trying to protect to protect their back to say actually , weve you guys actually, weve warned you guys from beginning these from the beginning of these shows may contain shows that it may contain things. Something you might things. So something you might have in the 80s and 90s, have watched in the 80s and 90s, audiences not had a audiences might not have had a problem. Now, this day and problem. Now, in this day and age everyones woke age where everyones a bit woke age where everyones a bit woke a sensitive , they might see a bit sensitive, they might see why they do specialise why because they do specialise in some of these very old british programmes. Mean you were yeah, i mean if you were showing like the showing Something Like on the buses moment , showing Something Like on the buses moment, you might buses at the moment, you might think warning there think a warning is okay there because they language on because they use language on those of old sitcoms that those sort of old sitcoms that wouldnt be acceptable nowadays and that might be a bit hurtful i im not so bothered by the warnings. I im not so bothered by the warnings. I just dont like when they scenes out because they cut scenes out because thats destroying peoples thats just destroying peoples art and how tv production have normally been. Okay thats my problem with it. I think a warning is okay if people are sensitive of nature, i think you might it might be a good idea to say that this drama in this episode doesnt contain a scene about rape. Because, i mean, if you have been victim of something and been a victim of something and you youre watching you think youre just watching and not cosy historical and youre not cosy historical movie and then suddenly something comes up that is going to seriously affect the way you think, i think its kind of case specific. Yeah, i agree. You know, if youve through a trauma youve been through a trauma yourself, be upset yourself, you may well be upset by like that. But not by Something Like that. But not many people who watch anne boleyn have their head boleyn have had their head chopped off. No. If they have and or if they have their dad. Yeah. Yeah. And it the question, how and it begs the question, how far take it . Because i get far do we take it . Because i get scared with stuff like this. Then eventually theyll say in classrooms, teach kids classrooms, we cant teach kids about because they about anne boleyn because they might by it. You might get triggered by it. You know, once you give an inch to these things, then, you know, it leaves mile be leaves room for a mile to be taken off stuff. So yeah, and lets say jack the ripper was violent and clues in the name. Yes, its. Yes, its. Well, it sort of is. Yeah. Yeah very quickly, about jennifer aniston. Yeah very quickly, about jenjenniferston. Yeah very quickly, about jenjennifer aniston, yeah very quickly, about jen jennifer aniston, Jamie Jennifer aniston, jamie foxxs post on foxxs put a post up on instagram. The american actor, where know, they where he said, you know, they killed. What you think killed jesus. What do you think theyll a jewish news theyll do to me . A jewish news site offence that site took offence with that because theyre saying that for site took offence with that b post and now shes come out and she said, i did not like that post. I endorse hate. And post. I do not endorse hate. And we know how social media is. Its like the wild, wild west when it comes to these things. Jamie fox has apologised for it because said that was not his because he said that was not his intention. He was rather talking about friend. So about a backstabbing friend. So for to get involved for jennifer to get involved with just with that, she just it just didnt make but thats didnt make sense. But thats the with social media. Didnt make sense. But thats the its with social media. Didnt make sense. But thats the its not with social media. Didnt make sense. But thats the its not just] social media. Didnt make sense. But thats the its not just whatal media. Didnt make sense. But thats the its not just what you adia. Didnt make sense. But thats the its not just what you say, its not just what you say, its what you might have liked. Thats yeah. Thats thats right. Yeah. And thats the problem. Yeah and its interpreted as and how its interpreted as well. So it is the wild, well. Exactly so it is the wild, wild west. Okay. Well, stephanie, thanks wild west. Okay. Indeed. Ephanie, thanks wild west. Okay. Indeed. Ephthose thanks wild west. Okay. Indeed. Ephthose are|ks very much indeed. So those are the of showbiz headlines in the sort of showbiz headlines in a couple of moments. I think were be about were going to be talking about whats sunday hello again. Its 839. Youre hello again. Its 839. Youre watching breakfast here on gb news with mia nym and talking about him. Somebody ive just got to do this one before we go. Where is it . No i cant find it now. Oh, yeah. No neil says sorry, martin, but if youre travelling anywhere abroad and youre only spending time on a sunbed, a bit sad. Sunbed, youre a bit sad. I dont only spend time in the an important the sunbed, but is an important sort tranche leisure sort of tranche of my leisure time. Its a trench, and i want time. Its a trench, and i want to make sure i get i get the primo spot. I think i speak for the nation. So if you havent been watching earlier, he sends his kids downstairs the and kids downstairs to the pool and they bag the best sunbeds theyve got. Theyve got to pay their way in. Yeah yeah. Lovely. Im glad im not going on holiday. Youll have to tell me where youre going because really, i dont approve. Anyway, were going to look through sunday this through the sunday papers this morning editor of morning with the editor of spiked, and author spiked, tom slater. And author and hodgson. And broadcaster nikki hodgson. Thanks back thanks very much for coming back to now, whats our first to us. Now, whats our first story . Ive it here. Yeah, tom. Its a brilliant one from the sunday express. And its a poll which basically shows that the support banning petrol support for banning new petrol and diesel has plummeted. And diesel cars has plummeted. And it has. So there this goal that so there is this goal that the government has set to ban all petrol and diesel cars , new all petrol and diesel cars, new sales by 2030, even just a few years ago it had pretty solid plurality, plurality support, i should say 44 backed it. Now thats down to 35 with 31 supporting. So its the first time that weve seen actually pubuc time that weve seen actually public backlash to this particular policy. And this is particular policy. And this is the story across all of the kind of zero green policies that of net zero green policies that you see, which is that when people ask in theory, do you think good idea if we think its a good idea if we have, know, emissions, have, you know, lower emissions, if cycle, etcetera, if more people cycle, etcetera, if more people cycle, etcetera, if should pursue zero. If we should pursue net zero. But soon its made clear but as soon as its made clear that this will come at a financial and personal cost to people, they are understandably against seeing against it. And were seeing that repeat here. That pattern repeat itself here. And i think entirely and i think thats entirely understandable. People might paint being paint this as people being selfish the entire selfish or whatever the entire social country selfish or whatever the entire so for 20 grand for for a heat pump, 20 grand for a new car. And by the way, your old car has got to be thrown in a ditch. People then start to query it, dont they . Absolutely, because at the query it, dont they . Iof;olutely, because at the query it, dont they . Iof the ely, because at the query it, dont they . Iof the day,because at the query it, dont they . Iof the day, you use at the query it, dont they . Iof the day, you know, the end of the day, you know, the policies that that this policies that that that this government previous government and previous governments have implemented have of have not served the interests of people know, around people around, you know, around green and so why should green energy. And so why should consumers be left to pay the price poor policies price of those poor policies that they were that were you know, they were not they were not not forced. They were not thinking coming thinking about what was coming down terms of how we down the line in terms of how we were going to have to live. And the thing course, is the other thing of course, is that, you know, thinking globally about, you know, which countries have the most emissions you emissions and unlike, you know, factory and kind factory emissions and kind of, you know, kind of stuff, you know, that kind of stuff, people it very Difficult People find it very difficult to take board. Im the take on board. Well, im the problem with the environment. So and again. Well, and got to and again. Well, and ive got to pay and again. Well, and ive got to pay it. You know, it just pay for it. You know, it just doesnt sit with people. Doesnt sit well with people. Us on the sun on move us on to the sun on sunday youve been looking sunday story youve been looking at social platforms at about social media platforms like which like tiktok and facebook, which are with the are joining forces with the police crack down on People Police to crack down on people smugglers. Is quite an yeah, this is quite an extraordinary bit reporting, extraordinary bit of reporting, actually, from sophia sleigh, who think comes on here, who i think comes on here, actually sort of saying that rishi one rishi sunak has decided that one of problems people of the problems around people smuggling there are ads. Smuggling is that there are ads. I know this, there i didnt know this, but there are ads on tiktok tick tock and Facebook Advertising services, basically saying if you pay this much, give kind of much, well give you a kind of fake passport all the fake passport and all the documents you need and you can come into britain or come in, come into britain or other and so the other countries. And so the government going and government is going to try and crack down on these ads, working with these media with these social Media Companies have companies is the problem i have with is if its so with this story is if its so easy, why dont we do that with lots aspects of ads . Because lots of aspects of ads . Because we talk frequently on this program about that, you know, knife crime and guns are available sorts of available for sale. All sorts of like all sorts of like drugs, all sorts of nefarious that children nefarious things that children can get their hands on and things being advertised to young people. Dont people. For example, i dont understand why this is the thing. Theyll to make thing. Theyll be able to make it for and they cant do it work for and they cant do for a number of other things. And obviously, know, social and obviously, you know, social media, media platforms media, social media platforms and difficult to and notoriously difficult to bnng and notoriously difficult to bring to running these sort of adverts anyway. Of course, shouldnt and of course, they shouldnt and of course they shouldnt. But the thing is, this could be a problem them be a real problem for them because successfully because if they can successfully do this and theres going to be a of other that a load of other stuff that theyre going. There really is. Theyre going. And e really is. Theyre going. And dontly is. Theyre going. And dont you. Theyre going. And dont you think tom pot, the problem here is that ministers, Prime Ministers the problem here is that miniclaim Prime Ministers the problem here is that miniclaim to Prime Ministers the problem here is that miniclaim to be rime ministers the problem here is that miniclaim to be tech ministers the problem here is that miniclaim to be tech savvy, ers who claim to be tech savvy, cant seem to grasp that youre chasing continually. Chasing shadows continually. If you facebook, you kick this off of facebook, it onto tiktok. If you it will go onto tiktok. If you get it off tiktok, it will go on to telegram. You actually to telegram. Can you actually stop will the bad guys stop this or will the bad guys simply adapt . Think thats always the i think thats always the story, adapt to story, is that they adapt to these things. I think youre exactly mps exactly right about mps and politicians nearly as politicians not being nearly as tech savvy whenever theres some kind one of kind of like hearing of one of the committees, the science and Technology Committee or whatever, get one whatever, and they get one of these valley people these Silicon Valley people in front often ends up front of them, it often ends up resembling a kind of tech support session. They no support session. They have no idea of this stuff idea how any of this stuff works. Thats let the works. And thats not to let the companies off the hook. Its just to say that these issues are a lot more complicated. So you government forward you have government come forward and like, oh, and say stupid things like, oh, we ban encryption. You we should ban encryption. You think, then you have think, well, then you cant have encryption. So all these encryption. So theres all these issues which are not only to make it difficult for them to get grip on some of the issues get a grip on some of the issues around these nefarious advertisement and on. But around these nefarious adverthey]ent and on. But around these nefarious adverthey end and on. But around these nefarious adverthey end up on. But around these nefarious adverthey end up actually3ut even they end up actually encroaching completely even they end up actually encroaciusers completely even they end up actually encroaciusers rightspletely even they end up actually encroaciusers rights because abiding users rights because they understand how this they dont understand how this technology works. Whack a mole and it is its a whack a mole because are so many of them. Absolutely. Every time you try and shut one down, theyll get move us on get around it. Tom, move us on to another from the sun on to another story from the sun on sunday therapy. Goats in sunday about therapy. Goats in prison, indeed. Theres whos so theres a prisoner whos been charge of two been put in charge of two therapy this is a scheme therapy goats. This is a scheme thats now. Thats going on now. We saying goats. The animal. The animal, yes. So theyre taken into the cells as a way to calm inmates. What do do with them . What do they do with them . What do they do with them . The less said about well, the less said about that, the better. But apparently not them paint not to calm them as they paint and yoga. This is part of and do yoga. So this is part of and do yoga. So this is part of a kind of holistic, quite hippie ish sort of means of ish sounding sort of means of keeping prisoners. Of keeping prisoners. A lot of people and cats and people take rabbits and cats and dogs for instance, old dogs into for instance, old peoples care homes peoples homes or care homes because thats the thats the only they actually only interaction they actually have animals, with pets. Have with animals, with pets. Never of but i never thought of therapy. Goats a prison recently. Also into cell. What also into the cell. What theyre going up the flight of stairs along the along the wing into i mean, it sounds into the door. I mean, it sounds a implausible. But a little bit implausible. But again, apparently part of again, its apparently part of this way to, again, calm prisoners. Also, can prisoners. Also, they can also take part ukulele lessons. Prisoners. Also, they can also t. Dont]rt ukulele lessons. Prisoners. Also, they can also t. Dont know1kulele lessons. Prisoners. Also, they can also t. Dont know1k this; lessons. Prisoners. Also, they can also t. Dont know1k this; l but were talking about this. Were sort of thinking so lets get this straight. You out get this straight. You come out of the ability to of prison with the ability to paint, yoga, play the paint, do yoga, play the ukulele, and possibly be calm with i dont know how with a goat. I dont know how transfer able those skills are. With a goat. I dont know how trarprison. Le those skills are. With a goat. I dont know how trarprison. Le titroublels are. With a goat. I dont know how trarprison. Le titrouble is,are. Prison. The trouble is, it could just story chasing could be just a story chasing a cheap headline in that i imagine that its done in prison as much as homes as weve been as care homes as weve been talking about that anyone local who accredited i who is already accredited i presume offered take presume and has offered to take their to actually their animals in to actually have sort of calming have some sort of calming effect. That just happens effect. Its that just happens where available. Its where its available. Its presumably diktat from presumably not some diktat from know it was being rolled out know if it was being rolled out nationwide guide therapy. Nationwide guide therapy. Yeah, im just really curious as to why goats because i, i mean, i think goats are wonderful, but theyre not particularly calming, are they . Well behaved for i not very well behaved for a start. I not very well behaved for a sta|these maybe. These ones maybe. These ones maybe. Well, pygmy goats. Well, theyre pygmy goats. Well, theyre pygmy goats. Know if that makes difference. Mini goats, kids. Theyre kids. One thing that these thoughts that theyre thoughts are is that theyre a bit of an old chestnut. You know, i think we have this idea that prisoners should be shackled to the floor and showered with waste products and shackled to the floor and shoallowedth waste products and shackled to the floor and shoallowedth w. Aboutoducts and shackled to the floor and shoallowedth w. Aboutodirun and not allowed just about to run out time. Not allowed just about to run out but ime. Not allowed just about to run out but can we just ever so but can we just ever so quickly, nicki . Yes talk about the Airline Passenger had the Airline Passenger who had a severe nut allergy. Yes. God. Yes. Oh, god. Yes. Oh, god. Well, i share her nut allergy, i absolutely allergy, so i absolutely empathise her story, empathise with her story, her solution the airline, not solution to the airline, not letting not banning was to letting not banning nuts was to buy all the available for buy all the nuts available for sale. She had to do i she bought all of the nuts. She bought all of the nuts. She bought all of the nuts. She the bought she bought the she bought £150 of nuts, which was £150 worth of nuts, which was more than the £50 flight cost. More than the £50 flight cost. Gosh, eurowings is the Airline Eurowings yeah, because, i mean, recently when i was flying, they just dont serve nuts. So they often do. You get these horrible little pretzels or whatever, but you dont get peanuts anymore because airlines recognise because most airlines recognise the that if theyve got the fact that if theyve got a passenger board a nut passenger on board with a nut allergy , it can be devastating allergy, it can be devastating for have the same allergy. Im susceptible to the dust and nuts. Its not even eating it. Does open a it. So if somebody does open a packet of nuts for me, i can be very poorly. So, you know, i sympathise with her, but id never actually come up with such a i mean, a creative solution. I mean, obviously a splashy obviously youve got a splashy cash, is one of cash, but it is one way of making sure youre buying something she cant possibly consume. Yes, really think yes, its really i think weve weve run out of weve i think weve run out of time there, have we . Right. Time there, have we . Yes right. Well, move on and just say well, lets move on and just say thank you very much for coming in. Well. Thank very in. Youre well. Thank you very much variety of much for Great Variety of newspaper stories this morning. Should though . Should we move on, though . Because fascinating. Should we move on, though . Becau londons fascinating. Should we move on, though . Becau londons property ng. Should we move on, though . Becau londons Property Market should we move on, though . Bearguablyons Property Market should we move on, though . Bearguably in s Property Market should we move on, though . Bearguably in aProperty Market should we move on, though . Bearguably in a state rty market should we move on, though . Bearguably in a state of market is arguably in a state of crisis, one mans jubilation over his recent property purchase is slightly odd, to say the least, because hes bought a stairway. A stairway to nowhere, quite literally , and he bought quite literally, and he bought it at auction , sight unseen for it at auction, sight unseen for 25 grand. Yeah. Watch this video last night. Its really, really inspiring because the new owner of the four story metal stairwell enclosed by translucent panels, has big plans to transform his acquisition into a series of pop up businesses. Acquisition into a series of pop up businesses. And simon squibb up businesses. And simon squibb joins us now to tell us more. Simon good morning to you. Thanks for joining simon good morning to you. Thanks forjoining us on gb news breakfast. Now, on the one hand, its like, oh, my god, the world gone mad. Someones paid 25 grand a stairwell london, grand for a stairwell in london, but got bright plans for but youve got bright plans for it. Tell us about why youre so inspired to buy what seems like a bit of a white elephant. I a bit of a white elephant. I know it seems like a joke, but actually its quite a serious thing and a lot of people feel like theyre in a stairway to nowhere. Nowhere. A lot of people dont have hope. A lot of people dont know how to make ends meet. And when i saw the stairway come up for sale, all sorts of analogies came up like, lets step up and help each other. You know, step help each other. You know, step by step we can get where you want to go in life and i think, of course, the Property Market is out of control and thats not helping people. So i hope this is a. To the Property Market being out of control and we can get that under control, too. But my plan is to help people do what love. And i know it what they love. And i know it sounds crazy that a stairwell can help people do that. Can help help people do that. But just on friday, a few days ago , 50 people turned up to that ago, 50 people turned up to that stairwell and we stood in the car park and listened to each others stories and then everybody in that group helped each other. Really, you can each other. And really, you can get anywhere with a little bit of help. The strongest people ask and the symbolism ask for help. And the symbolism of step by step, we can help each is just too for each other is just too much for me up. I had to buy it. Me to pass up. I had to buy it. Yeah, its interesting. I mean, weve got lots of radio listeners listening well and listeners listening as well and they seen and they wont have seen it. And ive just this. Its ive only just seen this. Its quite interesting sort quite an interesting sort of building, you like, in that building, if you like, in that it is a disused staircase in side, a sort of glass. How would side, a sort of glass. How would you describe it . You describe it . I would describe it as a tower of hope, but in practicality , it is literally practicality, it is literally its actually seven floors each. Each its actually seven floors each. Each main floor has a mid floor. And so you can put seven Small Businesses on every floor. For example , all. And people for example, all. And people have already started sending in their dreams what theyd like to do. And its inspired airing. Its exciting and of course theres lots to do. Weve got to clean it up so that its nice and safe. Weve got to get Council Permission to do such things. But i really love the idea of turning something that people see as a complete waste of something of time into something practical and and finally start and useful and finally start helping Small Businesses this helping Small Businesses in this country not doing country because were not doing that right now. And was really interesting and it was really interesting to watch Youtube Video to watch your Youtube Video where pop people where you kind of vox pop people that along the car park that come along to the car park looking it, asking looking at it, youre asking them, do think this them, how much do you think this is worth . And if you get it right, ill give it to you, which is a bit a brave thing which is a bit of a brave thing to do. Fair play to you. Nobody got answer right, some got the answer right, but some people saying, it must people were saying, oh, it must be £1 million because its be worth £1 million because its london. Although said 26 london. Although one guy said 26 grand was £1,000 out from grand and he was £1,000 out from taking it off you. But talk us through actual how through the actual space, how much person has and what much each person has and what kind what kind kind of enterprises, what kind of think will of initiatives do you think will fill spaces in your stairway . So we have a part two coming out on that youtube and people might to watch to what might want to watch to see what happens. Quite happens. It is quite fascinating. People trying to guess a staircase. Guess the value of a staircase. And the ideas that and but i think the ideas that have come in have surpassed my expectations. Wild expectations. Weve had the wild lets it into a fish tank lets turn it into a fish tank and lets turn it into a place that people can pretend to be a fireman for a day and jump down the side. And weve had a cat cafe , Garden Centre and some cafe, Garden Centre and some really inspiring practical businesses. People one person, for example, wants to launch a Clothing Brand and they want it to help people with Mental Health. And the clothes have a very positive energy. So theyll take one of the floors to put their clothes rack up and sell their clothes rack up and sell their clothes rack up and sell their clothes. Now i have their clothes. Now i have 3 million followers on social media, so i can, of course, amplify any Small Business that goes into the space and let people know that theyre there. But it really is about symbolism. You know, with rent so high, generally across the board , with Small Businesses board, with Small Businesses suffering and no help for them, it really is as simple as giving people a little bit of hope. Thats what ive noticed. The staircase seems to represent. And i did buy it initially as a practical item as well. Ive launched a platform called help bank. Com. We have 75,000 people bank. Com. We have 75,000 people on that platform. Were helping each other for free. And i thought we need an office space. So i thought, why not . Google started garage, amazon started started a garage, amazon started in garage. Couldnt help in a garage. Why . Couldnt help bank. Com in a stairwell. Bank. Com start in a stairwell. Why not . I think that sounds brilliant. Yeah yeah. I mean, Richard Branson started virgin in a telephone box , didnt he . In a telephone box, didnt he . Well, there you so, yeah, well, there you go. So, yeah, anythings possible. Its anythings possible. Well, its you. Did say seven stories high . Its. Its four stories, but theres. Theres three mid floors as you go up. So theres a landing between each of the floors. But i mean all of those different businesses, if thats how it ends up, are going to have to get on because theyre going to have to walk through other peoples, you know, climb stairs other peoples stairs through other peoples spaces, arent they . Yeah be a good yeah. It would be a good exercise. You know, weve got an obesity problem this country, obesity problem in this country, so can help people get so maybe we can help people get fit the same time and do some fit at the same time and do some do some exercise while while do some fun exercise while while helping businesses. Do some fun exercise while while helping quicklyusinesses. Do some fun exercise while while helping quickly before es. Do some fun exercise while while helping quickly before we say very quickly before we say goodbye. Then people want to goodbye. Then if people want to follow on was on follow your story on was it on youtube, do they youtube, youtube, what do they look . Look for . You can go to simon well, you can go to simon squibb. Com forward slash step up want to book the space up if you want to book the space and you can go on my youtube which simon squibb and which is at simon squibb and follow journey of turning follow the journey of turning this hope this staircase into hope for a lot of people. Well, well good luck with it. You dont the it. Im sure you dont need the luck, but good luck with luck, but very good luck with it. Lets hope it really it. And lets hope it really works. Well follow your story with watching with interest. Youre watching breakfast more breakfast here on gb news. More to come. To come. The temperatures rising, boxt solar. Proud sponsors of weather on. Gb news. On. Gb news. Good morning. My name is rachel ayers and welcome to your latest gb news Weather Forecast brought to you by the met office. Well today will be a more of a day of sunshine and showers with lighter winds around what we saw around than what we saw yesterday. Yesterdays storm anthony already moving away anthony is already moving away to the southeast, but could still bring some cloud and blustery conditions to parts of east this morning east anglia through this morning. Well cloud and. Elsewhere, well see cloud and showers soon bubbling up and these could be heavy in a few places across scotland. Northern england and with a chance of the odd thunderstorm across Northern Ireland. We feeling much more pleasant today as well compared to those to yesterday with those temperatures just creeping into the in the south. Now, the low 20s in the south. Now, as we go through the rest of this afternoon and into the evening, well see those showers starting to ease, becoming more confined to Northern Areas and plenty of clear spells around now with clear spells and lighter winds. Well see those temperatures dropping just a little bit more readily tonight. So towns and cities generally clinging on to those double figures. But more widely be seeing into the mid seeing temperatures into the mid single rural areas. Single figures in rural areas. This will mean itll be a bright but chilly start to the new week. Plenty of sunshine around there could still be the odd shower developing heaviest across northern and eastern parts of scotland. But with parts of scotland. But with those light winds and that sunshine around feeling even more pleasant as we go into the new week with those temperatures just starting to climb a little bit more into 20s with bit more into the 20s with a high of 23 in the southeast. And high of 23 in the southeast. And the temperatures rising , boxt the temperatures rising, boxt solar proud sponsors of weather on. Gb news. Good morning. Its 9 00 on good morning. Its 9 00 on sunday. The 6th of august. Today the word is sabotage. Home secretary Suella Braverman has accused keir starmer of sabotaging her efforts to end the migrant Channel Crossings, using what she calls his web of cronies and the home of former foreign secretary lord castlereagh, mount stuart opens to tourists in Northern Ireland this summer. Over 200 years after his death. Death. And we still want to hear your stories on reserving a sunbed during your holiday. Have you ever been like martin here, a sunbed hogger. And the big question is how will the weather look like for today . Cant be as bad as yesterday. Heres rachel ayers from the met office. It was an unsettled start to the weekend with storm anthony crossing the uk , but it looks crossing the uk, but it looks like a drier and brighter second half us across the uk. Join half for us across the uk. Join me later for a full forecast with all the details. With all the details. Whatever the weather, wherever you are in the world and whether youre nipping out to sunbed, youre to reserve a sunbed, youre hopefully joining us here on gb news. Im anne diamond and im Martin Daubney and this is breakfast on. Gb news the sunbed breakfast on. Gb news the sunbed hogging stories continue to come in. But i tell you what, this ones interesting. Annette in wrexham says , about 30 years wrexham says, about 30 years ago, we went to majorca at a time when a football match was being played between england and germany , going to breakfast on germany, going to breakfast on match day. We were surprised when we went into the guest lounge. There were towels reserving the seats in the lounge. Lounge. There you go. And stuart says, im currently in the algarve and we are amazed at watching the military plans of these huggers. Yep, huggers these huggers. Yep, huggers sending children down with arms stacked with towels, dragging out all the best beds, sweeping chairs and tables all before 9 am. That sounds just like me and my kids. Oh, paul says were watching you on a lovely warm beach in thailand. Thailand. We settled here 20 years ago, six hours of you in the uk six hours ahead of you in the uk. So your Award Winning breakfast ideal for Breakfast Show is ideal for post lunch relaxing , loving the post lunch relaxing, loving the programme. That sounds glorious. I wonder if youve had to reserve your sunbed or whether youve done what some people are now beginning point quite now beginning to point out quite a if youre really cant a lot is if youre really cant stand sunbed fiasco , rent stand the sunbed fiasco, rent a villa instead and then youve got your own pool and your own sunbeds. Yeah, but. But the sunbed fiasco for me is all part of the fun. Its all part of the energy. You like the competition . Do i like all the sharp elbows . Send the kids down. Theyve got to pay their way. Yeah. No, no. Yeah. No, no. Lets move on to serious subjects. Actually, sunbeds. Sunbeds to be a very sunbeds turn out to be a very serious morning, serious subject this morning, but on. The bank of but well move on. The bank of england increased interest england has increased Interest Rates the 14th time in rates for the 14th time in a row. On thursday to 5. 25. Now, the banks forecast for the confident the governments pledge to halve inflation by the end year will be met and end of the year will be met and that the rises will success fully off a recession . Fully ward off a recession . Well, lets find out yes. Well, lets find out more about this. Were going to be to find more about be able to find out more about it a few minutes time, it in a few minutes time, actually, tominey, actually, from Camilla Tominey, whos her whos getting ready for her programme. And thats the point, camilla, you were camilla, isnt it . You were going this a big going to turn this into a big economy programme, but other things the things have, as ever in the world of politics, youve got to keep up with the havent keep up with the news, havent you, Live Television . So obviously all of the papers dominated by suella papers are dominated by Suella Bravermans and bravermans interview and interventions on the immigration crisis. Blaming crisis. This idea of blaming labouh crisis. This idea of blaming labour, im wondering what our audience of that, because labour, im wondering what our athink e of that, because labour, im wondering what our athink ive of that, because labour, im wondering what our athink ive robertt, because labour, im wondering what our athink ive Robert Jenrickjse i think ive got Robert Jenrick the minister coming the immigration minister coming on. One hand i know that on. And on one hand i know that gb views and listeners are obviously behind hes obviously behind what hes trying so theyre behind trying to do. So theyre behind the intention, but im not sure they execution. I they support the execution. I mean, still nothings happened. Labour have got a good attack line in the papers. Theyre saying, you know, the government has home secretaries has sent more home secretaries to than actual deportees i thats a very good line. Thats good. Having said that, i also think there is sympathy with bravermans that some of bravermans view that some of these allies to some of these lawyers are are basically putting a massive blockade in the way of any of the governments plans. And i do think its right to say theres a piece in the express talking about one particular Labour Councillor whos also one of these people who is trying to stop the government from stopping the boats that on the left amount of left theres a huge amount of kind prevarication over this kind of prevarication over this issue are all migrants Asylum Seekers. They cant seem to decide that. They dont seem to be able to be open to the space that sometimes particularly young men are coming over here just for a job. Theyre not coming because theyre being persecuted anyone. Weve had persecuted by anyone. Weve had a huge operation going on in the mail newspaper trying to pinpoint some of these immigration lawyers who are basically totally gaming the system. And friends of keir starmer are, cases going are, in some cases going undercover and seeing these lawyers basically saying, right, youre have to make up youre going to have to make up this, and this order to this, this and this in order to stay the country. Stay in the country. This enrages the electorate. But same there is but at the same time, there is this that the this perception that the government hasnt got government still hasnt got a grip. Trying its best, but grip. Its trying its best, but its getting anywhere. And i its not getting anywhere. And i think what need to put think thats what i need to put to when are you sending to jenrick when are you sending someone how does someone to rwanda and how does this stockholm barge help this bibby stockholm barge help when only house 500 when it can only house 500 migrants in june 2000 migrants and only in june 2000 landed by boat . Landed by boat . And i wonder if Something Else puts mrjenrick is an extraordinary line of attack in the same express piece, braverman accuses starmer of successfully campaigning to halt this governments attempts to deport vile foreign criminals, including rapists and murderers. Yeah, its a total betrayal of their victims. That, of course , their victims. That, of course, pertains to that 2020 flights to jamaica or that sir keir starmer signed the letter to help ground it. One of whom went on to commit so is quite commit murder. So this is quite down dirty politics. Down and dirty politics. Also, i dont think the pubuc also, i dont think the public particularly in public is particularly in support politicians support of labour politicians or anyone to ground flights anyone trying to ground flights of who are meant to be of people who are meant to be leaving here again , theres a leaving here again, theres a perception that theyre gaming the to claim human rights the system to claim human rights even though they themselves may be criminals who have a be criminals who have had a complete want and disregard for other human rights. So other peoples human rights. So were to be covering all were going to be covering all of the cost of of that. But look, the cost of living crisis still remains. And i think are going to get i think people are going to get increasingly with the increasingly concerned with the weather to weather turning. Are we going to have summer . I appreciate have a summer . I appreciate weve radiators for weve got our radiators off for now, but when it comes to september, october, november, people to worried people are going to be worried about bills again. About their energy bills again. So speaking to so im going to be speaking to Kwasi Kwarteng. Thats Kwasi Kwarteng. I know thats controversial because do controversial because people do blame now but blame him for this. Now but i think its the highest Interest Rate weve had now at 5. 25 15 rate weve had now at 5. 25 in 15 years. That his fault . Is it years. Is that his fault . Is it liz trusss . Is it a wider problem with the economy . Were they mean, we they in power . 47 i mean, we cant keep going on, can we . Saying days in power made saying 47 days in power made that a difference. We that much of a difference. We could recovered by now, could have recovered by now, couldnt we . Well, also, if you look at the yields, is the gilt yields, which is apparently the of like apparently the kind of like marker how well were doing, marker of how well were doing, theyre they theyre higher now than they were under truss and kwarteng. I think again, like think people again, quite like the not the the ideas, but not the execution. Is this a recurrent problem tory government problem with the tory government that but that has the right ideas but cant put them into plan cant seem to put them into plan 7 cant seem to put them into plan . Also be speaking to roger . Ill also be speaking to roger bootle, leading bootle, whos a leading economist whole economist on this whole issue and and out where does and try and find out where does he think Interest Rates are going to remain . Are we now facing two, five, ten facing the next two, five, ten years at rates at around 5 . Was this low that we this historic low that we witnessed since the crash in 2008 distorting the 2008 completely distorting the entire system. What are his ideas for growth . Im also going to be speaking to a blairite. Stephen coming on. Stephen timms is coming on. He was last chief secretary was blairs last chief secretary to treasury lets find out to the treasury lets find out what labours are on the what labours ideas are on the economy because im a bit confused. Well, we havent really heard any yet, have we . So any policies yet, have we . So starmer sitting on starmer is kind of sitting on the biding his time, the sidelines biding his time, hoping tories implode. But hoping the tories implode. But a bit of detail would be nice. It would be nice. And then the guests weve the other great guests weve got on, been parliament for on, hes been in parliament for 36 sirjohn redwood 36 years. Sirjohn redwood advised Margaret Thatcher on her. Im to ask john her. Well im going to ask john because thatchers policy because he was thatchers policy adviser what he think adviser what does he think thatcher would of net zero . Thatcher would make of net zero . Thats debate in thats the other big debate in the newspapers is the newspapers today. Is it costing much . Weve got costing us too much . Weve got labour the conservatives at labour and the conservatives at loggerheads over this issue because of what happened in uxbndge because of what happened in uxbridge so lets find uxbridge and ulez. So lets find out. Dont know how to out. They dont know how to position themselves, do they . Also interestingly, i think both starmer and sunak now are kind of vying for support on the right, but finding it very difficult to kind of land some of pledges youve of those pledges because youve got just got a load of tories just staying home. So like to staying at home. So id like to ask redwood, what would ask john redwood, what would thatcher make of net zero and indeed sunak . So lets indeed of rishi sunak . So lets find out a bit later from 930. That will be fascinating. Theres a poll in the express today which shows support is slipping finding today which shows support is slipthe| finding today which shows support is slipthe cost. Finding out the cost. It was quite i mean, i think everybody wants to do their best. And by the way, people in britain do. We are a britain generally do. We are a nafion britain generally do. We are a nation of people that separate their care about their recycling and care about their recycling and care about the deeply. And the environment deeply. And i think blair still think the blair argument still resonates, was resonates, doesnt it . He was the who said last week, the one who said last week, well, can do we can, but well, we can do what we can, but what about china . And im not saying that to be defeatist, but its it a good point, its a bit it was a good point, wasnt it . Yeah. I think a lot of yeah. And i think a lot of people think that about green issues, know, like say, issues, you know, like you say, we to recycle and we bust a gut to recycle and turn the lights off, but whence china going to do something thats be really thats going to be really meaningful . Right. Camilla, meaningful . Well right. Camilla, look to show. Look forward to that show. Get everybody ready. Get everybody ready. Interview that john redwood interview will corker. Bet you, will be a corker. Ill bet you, because hes feeling as because im sure hes feeling as though needs to be though somebody needs to be outspoken move over outspoken on. Shall we move over to ireland . I was just outspoken on. Shall we move over to to ireland . I was just outspoken on. Shall we move over to to do. Reland . I was just outspoken on. Shall we move over to to do. No. Nd . I was just outspoken on. Shall we move over to to do. No. Yes. Was just outspoken on. Shall we move over to to do. No. Yes. Irvas just outspoken on. Shall we move over to to do. No. Yes. I think st about to do. No. Yes. I think so. Yeah. Were to going go to castle house, which has just been opened to the public, or hes be opening to the hes going to be opening to the pubuc hes going to be opening to the public very soon. In fact, i said earlier in the programme that places these enormous piles like castle house, theyre just big dark houses with big portraits of men on horseback. Portraits of men on horseback. Well, ive had a message from david, who said nothing could be further from the truth. I further from the truth. Where i work, i invite one or both of you to visit us, and you will see many men and women who are formidable. Many were formidable. But many were females, too. So he said, i work as a guide at of the most as a guide at one of the most foremost castles. Id love to foremost castles. Id love to know which one. Thanks very much for in touch. For getting in touch. Lots of people. Ive been and lots of people. Ive been in on channel migrants. In touch on channel migrants. The topic del says. Dont the big topic del says. I dont trust the main parties trust either of the main parties to the boats. To stop the boats. Who do you vote for . So who do you vote for . Thats the big question. Yeah. Okay over Northern Ireland okay over to Northern Ireland now, of former foreign now, the home of former foreign secretary castlereagh , but secretary lord castlereagh, but a ago is open to a long time ago is open to tourists in Northern Ireland. This summer. Over 200 years now after his death. After his death. Yeah, he was the minister for war during the napoleon and war during the napoleon era and reshaped by overseeing reshaped europe by overseeing the the union and the the acts of the union and the end the 1812 american war. End of the 1812 american war. Now legendary Northern Ireland reporter Dougie Beattie has paid a visit. All of us are only here for a short time , but the roads and short time, but the roads and structures left behind are portholes into the past and some of us achieve much more than others. Lord kassirs life was played out on a world stage and would leave his mark to this very day. Castlereagh was born very day. Castlereagh was born into the Stuart Family in dublin, although he spent most of his life right here in mount stuart, he lived in extraordinary times. And when raised through the political ranks in britain, he felt intensively irish at the same time, he felt that ireland deserved to be a part of a bigger and more powerful unit, which was at that time the British Empire , where he saw in British Empire, where he saw in the napoleonic wars how the British Empire could not only ally itself with europe, but also so lead europe. Peter also so lead europe. Peter lawrenson is married into the Stuart Family and is a historical expert on it. He felt himself much more as a diplomat than a politician. A diplomat than a politician. Ian its one of the reasons why the king proposed that if lord liverpool resigned , the King Liverpool resigned, the king george the fourth would make castlereagh his Prime Minister, and lord castlereagh said no thanks. Thank you very much. Your majesty, but no thanks. Your majesty, but no thanks. As well as appointing such men as nelson and wellington , he men as nelson and wellington, he set up unthinkable coalitions and ensured the pope that all the vaticans wealth would be returned from napoleons armies as secretary of war, he had put together a thing called the Sex Coalition, an with britain and its allies against napoleon. Its allies against napoleon. That is to say, the armies of imperial russia, the armies of the austrian empire and the armies of the prussian empire. Armies of the prussian empire. And in the course of that, he became personal friend of the monarchs involved. Thats tsar, the kaiser and the king of prussia , the boy that grew up in prussia, the boy that grew up in newtownards would set in place the acts of the union and the american war of 1812. And even more remarkable , all for an more remarkable, all for an american like myself. If it was american like myself. If it was he who brought to an end the war of 1812, which many of us have forgotten about the principal negotiator for the end of the war from the american side was a remarkable man called john quincy adams, became americas sixth president , and he said, i bnng sixth president , and he said, i bring this war to an end because i trust at the word of lord castlereagh. This is a very little known link between america and Northern Ireland, but an important one, because as much as the congress of vienna prevented the british from fighting any wars on the continent for a hundred years until the first world war, it is also the birth of the special relationship because no british army has had to fight an American Army for 200 years. Right down to the present day. Right down to the present day. Dougie beattie gb news mountstuart fancy being minister of war during the napoleonic era. Its not a big job, is it . Just a just a fascinating, isnt it . Castlereagh has there okay you with breakfast on gb news. Stick with us. Well be right welcome back. Youre watching and listening to breakfast here on gb news with anne and martin and of all of the things weve been talking about today, you know, Asylum Seekers or illegal immigrants. Seekers or illegal immigrants. And all of the things we were going to talk about, the subject of sunbeds and sunbed hogging has played a very big in the programme today. It seems that it really does affect your houday it really does affect your holiday pay if youve gone on houday holiday pay if youve gone on holiday somewhere to stay at a hotel or a resort and you find that other people are hogging the sunbeds and you can never get to them and then maybe you find that behaviour forces you into the same situation of having to do the same as you would probably say. You you do it because you have to do it. Yeah, yeah, i do. And also i think its all part of the sports, part of the fun. I like not meant to be. I like not meant to be. I like the International Competition of beating the germans whoever germans too, or whoever the nafion germans too, or whoever the nation well, exactly. Nation may be. Well, exactly. And my children and i say i send my children downstairs early. Always downstairs early. They always wake on holiday. Downstairs early. They always wake very on holiday. Downstairs early. They always wake very excited. Iday. Downstairs early. They always wake very excited. Iiay. Downstairs early. They always wake very excited. I said, theyre very excited. I said, well, before breakfast, go and get that lounger there yet. The fourth the by the fourth one on the right by the pool fourth one on the right by the pool. In the primo pool. Yeah in the primo spot. I like to do it. Its all part of the fun for me and ive had some some criticism but a lot of people agree too. Yeah, stuart im oh yeah, stuart says. Im currently algarve and we currently in the algarve and we are amazed at watching the almost plans of these almost military plans of these sunbed sending sunbed hoggers. There sending children their arms children down armed their arms stacked dragging stacked with towels, dragging the ing chairs the best beds, swap ing chairs and tables and before 9 am. Yeah. And heres kath saying we tackled this problem at our apartment complex by throwing all the towels in the pool. We all the towels in the pool. We have civilised queuing system have a civilised queuing system opening at each morning. So opening at 830 each morning. So basically if people jump the queue, kath chucks their towels in the pool. Thats direct action but that its direct action. But that could get really nasty and then again blights your holiday doesnt yeah. Your holiday doesnt it. Yeah. I mean says had paid mean barbara says if i had paid a thousand pounds for a few thousand pounds for a holiday, entitled to holiday, i think im entitled to go grab a sunbed. Go and grab a sunbed. Yeah. And theres another one from geoff echoing that early sentiment a soldier the sentiment as a soldier in the 70s a group of us would 70s and 80s, a group of us would often holiday together. We often go on holiday together. We would hotel quite would return to the hotel quite late nights throw all late most nights and throw all of the towels on the sunbeds into the pools. We didnt even bother to keep it a secret, but nobody ever said anything. We never sat around the never actually sat around the pool never actually sat around the pool. I dont suppose agree. They with group of they disagree with a group of squaddies, they . No, squaddies, would they . No, you wouldnt to, you . In wouldnt want to, would you . In the joannas interesting. Interested well. And interested as well. And in fact, you were like joanna, fact, if you were like joanna, you would always be fact, if you were like joanna, you to would always be fact, if you were like joanna, you to get would always be fact, if you were like joanna, you to get awould always be fact, if you were like joanna, you to get a sunbed. Ways be fact, if you were like joanna, you to get a sunbed. She; be able to get a sunbed. She chooses the unwanted sunbeds that are in the shade , she says, that are in the shade, she says, because says, why because she says, why would anyone on a sunbed anyone want to lie on a sunbed for periods of time . For long periods of time . Havent they heard about the risks of skin cancer . Yeah, but you want to go away on enjoy that sun. On holiday and enjoy that sun. And the feels and i think the sun feels different abroad. Feels much different abroad. It feels much more powerful. Reliable , its reliable, its reliable, its reliable, its there. Unlike our weather. And i think at the moment, the sunbed war going escalate because war is going to escalate because people secure Little People want to secure a little piece in the corner piece of england in the corner of spain and the corner of tenerife , wherever it is. Tenerife, wherever it is. Years ago, albie. Years ago, says albie. Morning,. We stayed at morning, albie. We stayed at a hotel in cyprus. Every room had hotel in cyprus. Every room had its allocated sunbeds and umbrella and if you went out for the day when you returned and your sunbed and umbrella would always be available, all monitored by brilliant pool attendants. I like that idea. Attendants. I like that idea. Thats very posh , isnt it . Its thats very posh, isnt it . Its a bit like we were hearing from somebody earlier goes somebody earlier who goes to sandals resort you can sandals resort where you can i presume if you if you pay a sort of concierge rates for your room, you get a butler and you can send your butler out to reserve a sunbed for you. Its thats way do it. Thats really the way to do it. You see, but that is well, you see, but that is paying well, you see, but that is paying other people to do your dirty work and then making it doing it officially. Only dirty if its only dirty work if youre doing sort of, you youre doing it sort of, you know, their own way. If i use my children who but if i use my children who i for, im a bad guy. If i pay for, im a bad guy. If they a butler who they pay they use a butler who they pay for, the good guys. No, for, theyre the good guys. No, no, i thats how the no, no. I think thats how the other half a way it is other half well, in a way it is actually saying you get it. If you pay for it then yeah. Yeah because ted says we stayed in hotel in tenerife last year in a hotel in tenerife last year and they a booking system and they had a booking system where could book your bed where you could book your bed the your sunbed, the where you could book your bed the before your sunbed, the where you could book your bed the before on your sunbed, the where you could book your bed the before on aour sunbed, the where you could book your bed the before on a very;unbed, the day before on a very sophisticated booking screen. It worked sophisticated booking screen. It woryeah. And we, we havent just yeah. And we, we havent just been about sunbeds all been talking about sunbeds all morning. Has morning. To be fair, it has really got going. And why really got you going. And why not . Does coming up soon. Of not . It does coming up soon. Of course, the Camilla Tominey show, top topic today is show, big top topic today is migration channel migrants. Loads been coming loads of views have been coming in graham and bradford in on that. Graham and bradford says what they should be doing is turning boats and is turning the boats around and sending them back before they even get to our border. Yeah great idea. But how do you do it . But how do you do it . People keep saying that should be done because of course the big political row today, Suella Braverman accusing starmer of being having a web of cronies preventing deportations, attacking him personally as blocking the deportation of even murderers and rapists. Really dirty politics. Lots to talk aboutin dirty politics. Lots to talk about in the Camilla Tominey show. Its a huge , huge issue. Show. Its a huge, huge issue. It seems that nobody knows who to trust on this topic. No, absolutely nobody knows whether anything actually can ever done. Now we were ever get done. Now we were talking also earlier about the wonderful pictures from the space telescope, the James Webb Space Telescope, the James Webb Space Telescope , because its space telescope, because its been looking at much, much further into space. And it came up with the extraordinary picture which to us looks like a very , very distant couple of very, very distant couple of galaxies which are shaped like an enormous question mark. So we were talking to our space expert, andy lownds, about it , expert, andy lownds, about it, and he was explaining that its the interaction of two galaxies thats twisting and it just happens to look like a question mark. But it looks really weird. Theyre hovering in space, mary says. Does anyone else think this is all a of money . This is all a waste of money . You the space telescopes you know, the space telescopes and there are so many and whatever, there are so many ways spent better. Yeah. And a very funny comment from wendy here pulling in two comments. Rishi sunak will never stop the space boats arriving at earth uk. If there is life out there. Nice 1 1. Ill see what you did there. Yeah, but if they arrived , at yeah, but if they arrived, at least wed know that they were there. Daryl says. Why is it always supposed that if we made extraterrestrial contact it would be beneficial mankind . Would be beneficial to mankind . Ill more ill tell you whats more important, though. Youll probably what the probably want to know what the weathers to be like. As weathers going to be like. As weathers going to be like. As we say goodbye. Looks like things are heating up, boxt boilers, proud sponsors of weather on. Gb news. Of weather on. Gb news. Good morning. My name of weather on. Gb news. Good morning. My name is rachel ayers and welcome to your latest gb news Weather Forecast brought to you by the met office. Well, today will be a more of a day of sunshine and showers with lighter winds around than what saw yesterday. What we saw yesterday. Yesterdays storm anthony is already moving to the already moving away to the south east, could still south east, but could still bnng south east, but could still bring some cloud and blustery conditions to east conditions to parts of east anglia morning. Anglia through this morning. Elsewhere, see cloud and elsewhere, well see cloud and showers soon bubbling up. And showers soon bubbling up. And these could be heavy in a few places across scotland, Northern England and with a chance of the odd thunderstorm across Northern Ireland, much more ireland, were feeling much more pleasant today well compared pleasant today as well compared to with those to yesterday with those temperatures just creeping into the in the south. Now, the low 20s in the south. Now, as we go through the rest of this afternoon and into the evening, well see those showers starting to ease, becoming more confined to Northern Areas and plenty of clear spells around now with clear spells and lighter winds. Well see those lighter winds. Well see those temperatures dropping just a little bit more readily tonight. So towns and cities generally clinging on to those double figures, but more widely seeing temperatures the mid single temperatures into the mid single figures areas. This figures in rural areas. This will mean itll be a bright but chilly start to the new week. Plenty of sunshine around. There could still be the odd shower developing heavy across northern and eastern parts of scotland. But with those light winds and that sunshine around feeling even more pleasant as we go into the new week with those temperatures just starting to climb a little bit more into the 20s with a high of 23 in the south east looks like things are heating up. Heating up. Boxed boilers proud sponsors of weather on. Gb news. Of weather on. Gb news. Im andrew doyle. Join me at 7 00 every sunday night for free speech nation. The show right tackle the weeks biggest stories in politics and Current Affairs. Help of my two affairs. With the help of my two comedian panellists and a variety of special guests. Speech nation sunday free speech nation sunday nights from 7 00 on gb news the peoples channel, britains news channelin peoples channel, britains news channel in a world of dull and predictable radio and tv shows. Oh, hi. On mark dolan tonight oh, hi. On mark dolan tonight weve got big guests. 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And also, ill be speaking to john redwood, whos Margaret Thatchers former policy adviser. And im going to be having Stephen Timms down the line with me talk about what blair me to talk about what blair would do about the economy and whether any whether labours ideas are any good. So lets first of all just good. So lets first of all just go through the front pages of the newspapers. Lets have the newspapers. Lets have a look at this first one in the sunday telegraph. China will use sunday telegraph. China will use electricity , electric cars to electricity, electric cars to spy on britain. Thats the