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Is Damage Control mode, does his first solo tv interview. That wrapped just90 minutes ago. Foxs Shannon Bream asked about a minnesota if law allowing abortions through the ninth month. The governor says he just wants to restore roe v. Wade. This puts the decision with the woman and her Health Care Provider s, Donald Trump is asking for a nationwide shannon wait, he has said he will not sign a nationwide abortion ban. Howard and when asked about falsehoods and exaggerations in his Military Record and other issues . They disparage everyone, personal attacks. I will own up when mys speak. Howard Donald Trumps Running Mate has been doing interviews all the time, holding news conferences, the best kind of preparation for the cbs debate. Kamala harris Running Mate has been bubble wrapped, kept away from journalists until today. And the cbs moderators were much tougher on vance. If walz effectively counterpunched at times, but he often meandered until he got to his main point. Here was j. D. Vance on abortion expressing sympathy for the protrump side. Weve got to do so much were the of a job better of a job at earning the american peoples trust back on this issue where they, frankly, just dont trust us. Were profreedom to make your own chose. We know what the implications are. Howard walzs worst moment, media reports that he lied about being in china for the Tiananmen Square protests when he got there months later. Ive not been perfect, and im a Knucklehead At Times. Howard and he had to be pressed to admit he misspoke. Vances worst moment . January 6th. Senator vance, you have said you would not have certified the last president ial election and would have asked the states to submit alternative electors. That has been called unconstitutional and illegal. Remember, he said that on January The 6th the protesters ought to protest peacefully, and on january the 202th, what happened . Joe biden became the president , Donald Trump left the the White House. 140 Police Officers were beatennal at the capitol that day. Several later died. Howard and Cbs Fact checked vance despite saying it would try to avoid the practice. Just to clarify for our viewers, springfield, ohio, does have a large number of haitian migrants who have legal status, temporary protected the rules were that you guys werent going to Fact Check. Howard the faceoff may not have that much impact on the campaign, but its probably the last debate of this shortened race. Im Howard Kurtz and this is mediabuzz. Howard the Media Reaction was, of course, decidedly mixed. Tim walz did not seem prepared. He didnt respond to the a lot of the criticisms and attacks that vance put on the table. The moderators were obnoxious and made it feel like three on one on vance, and vance was just fine. J. D. Vance was very clarifying at The End of this debate. And he told viewers everywhere that was watching if you hate America American Democracy when things dont go your way, vote for me. J. D. Vance spent the Night Sort of building an intricate and beautiful fork out of toothpicks, and it was perfect. Ask and at The End, he sneezed on it. The whole thing fell apart. It was amazing, the Split Screen Difference between a competent vance and a totally in over his head walz. If. Howard joining us now to analyze the coverage in nashville, Tomi Lahren, host of the Tomi Lahren show on outkick, and with me, kevin corke, foxs senior national correspondent. Tomi, Tim Walz pops up on Fox News sunday. Why now . Whats the strategy . Well, i think he performed so poorly in that debate against j. D. Vance that he had to do something. And i do give him credit for coming on Fox News. Listen, i wish Kamala Harris would also come on Fox News and give a couple interviews. As we know, a highly watched network, and im not just saying it because youre my employer, but its a highly watched network, so i give tim Walz Credit for coming on Fox News sunday, having difficult conversations. The interview appears to be probably something hes not used to which is a little bit of back and forth. Hes actually being pressed on maybe some more of his lies. We got one press during that debate on one of his lies, but there was many more. And just saying that youre a Knucklehead At Times or grammars not your best thing, i dont think thats going to get him out of it with Shannon Bream, thats for sure. Howard kevin, quick thought on the interview, and then i want to move on. I thought the interview was excellent for Tim Walz for a couple reasons. First of all, he finally had a chance to calm down. I thought he was incredibly intense and, frankly, looked scared during the debate. I thought he also was pinned down a couple times by shannon. Great job, my friend. And i dont think he advanced the football, but i dont think he hurt the campaign. And its good practice as well. Howard okay. So his next interview is going to be with jimmy kimmel, and this week or so Kamala Harris will appear if on The View, with howard stern, with Stephen Colbert whos hosted a couple of fundraisers for biden, and on the call your daddy podcast, which is about sex. I dont want to go out an limb here, but does. Suggest shes avoiding tough interviews . Were not talking about Murderers Row here. I think its smart to get out there. I think it speaks to her youth push, but i dont think this will probably, in my opinion, she should be talking to people like you, she should be talking to reporters in the Press Briefing because then she can prove if her mettle. If she seems afraid and going on Colbert Count solve that. Howard i hope that she does more interviews. In fairness, she has agreed to do 600 minutes, 60 minutes. There are a lot of media reports that democrats were disappointed in Tim Walzs longwinded, sometimes stumbling perfect time to stumble, of course performance. Could that be related to the Harris Campaign until now keeping him under wraps . Well, listen, the Harris Campaign has done a good job of keeping both kamala and Tim Walz under wraps, and you cant do that with both the top of your ticket and your Running Mate. You simply cant get around that. And, you know, speaking of Kamala Harris and doing her Media Blitz this week, i actually think this is going to backfire on her because when she does these Pop Culture moments or podcasts, she comes across more fake, phony and disingenuous than when she sits down with a serious journalists. So i actually think that Tim Walz is playing this smarter. I think Kamala Harris would do better to follow in those footsteps, but theres No Doubt Tim Walz was in over his head during that debate. It hurt him that j. D. Vance happens to be particularly good at debating but Tim Walz, boy, the expressions alone, i think, shows that he was very nervous and he knew within the first couple of minutes he had lost that crowd. Howard 43 Million people watched that can debate, a significant number of viewers. So did j. D. Vance, whos obviously a better debater, benefit from all of that . I mean, he is giving news conferences, going on podcasts, doing interviews all the time. And i hope hell do one with us. To quote the great allen iverson, we talk about practice. Youve got to practice. Youve got to get your reps howard sports metaphors today. Didnt lose any yardage what can i help . Its sunday. Go, Commander Ors commanders. I really think the practice is really important, and any chance you can sort of bone up on the summits, bone up on how you want to respond to tougher questions makes you better. J. D. Vance put on an absolute master class. That was a 10 out of 10. Ive never seen anyone do better, and if youre Tim Walz, you really ran into a buzz saw. Howard right. So lets play some sound here of, from the debate, trying to make the point that a lot of the questions that were asked, while fair, were sort of framed from the left. Heres nora odonnell. Senator vance, you oppose most Gun Legislation that democrats claim would curb gun violence. You oppose if red Flag Gun laws and legislation to the ban certain semiautomatic rifles including ar15s. Howard tomi, how did that come as cross to you between that and the Fact Checking vance which he obviously said he thought was against the rules theyd agreed to. Right. Well, ill tell you what, i think j. D. Vance walked into that debate knowing that it was going to be likely a three on one. He walked in knowing it probably wasnt going to be fair, and he knows that because of the media interviews hes done. He walks into the Lions Den every time, so i think walking in he knew this. I also think it was strategic for cbs to have two female moderators. We know j. D. Vance has struggled with women because of his Past Competentes comments about childless Cat Ladies. J. D. Vance knew that ors he walked this knowing what it was going to be, and thats why he was ready for it. I think Donald Trump wishes maybe he was a little bit more ready for it when he had his debate against Kamala Harris. But j. D. Performed excellently. Howard yeah. Childless Cat Ladies was not even mentioned, which is fine, and a lot of the controversy in the coverage of Senator Vance is about things hes said in the parks even going back to, you know, before he was in politics. So, kevin, how much of this was about vance softening his image after all of the negative coverage of him as this sort of hardedged, Culture Warrior who used to hate trump, you know, as lots of quotes have been recycled from 2016. Sure. I think a couple things, howie. First of all, if youre the gop, you have to love this idea of making the ticket broadly, if youre going to link the two gentlemen, j. D. Vance appeals more to women, appeals to folks who may be more independent. Donald trumps got the Base Rap wrapped up. I think j. D. Vance broadens that, and i think his performance helped to soften and maybe allay some fears maybe some independents may have had about the ticket broadly speaking. Again, if you didnt know j. D. Vance, if youd never seen him on a national stage, he could not have had a before comingout party, and i think it helps Donald Trump in a way that probably wont be measured until, i dont know, a month from now. Howard almost to be exact. So, tomi, was vance not only trying to soften his own image, i mean, i was really struck by how much sympathy the guy who describes himself as 100 tolife showed for those who have a different view on abortion rights. But in a way, does he alls also soften trumps image because, you know, the Running Mate is coming across as reasonable, willing to listen to the other side and that sort of thing . Right. He also did a lot of cleanup, i feel, from the Trumpharris Debate from a couple weeks prior. I think that he was able to not only defend Donald Trump, but do it in such a way that he wasnt throwing Donald Trump under the bus or sabotaging him in any way. Ill tell you what j. D. Vance did. If you dont know who j. D. Vance is, he did a great job, in my opinion, of speaking to those suburban women, especially those suburban moms talking about his family, talking about his own wife and how accomplished she is, really coming off as a supportive Husband And Somebody who could on Day One really lead this country. I dont think that the left got that from Tim Walz. I dont think anybody if watching that watched Tim Walz and thought this guy could be president. To be fair, we dont necessarily think that, in my opinion, about Kamala Harris either. But Tim Walz certainly didnt do her any favors in that department. Howard was it so friendly at times, briefly, kevin, that they didnt really hold each other can accountable . I mean, there certainly was pushback about obamacare and other issues, but, you know, they seemed the a lot of common if ground which was not the strategy that the democrats were hoping for. I think the youre a democrat, you wanted to the see Governor Walz be a lot more aggressive. I dont think he took advantage of some opportunities where he could really have gotten after j. D. Vance, and part of it is his disarming personality. If you want to go after Donald Trump, hes a pugilist that makes it easier, but going after vance is tougher because hes like, well, you know, youre right, i see your point, which was pretty start on smart on his point. Howard gotta say is, it was civil and substantive. Ahead, Corey Lewandowski. And when we come back, Tv News playing catchup on the devastating hurricane and the Candidates Trading charges. Howard as Hurricane Helene was inflicting almost unbelievable damage last weekend in North Carolina and other southern states, Television News just blew it. Somehow it wasnt much of a story. But that changed at the beginning of the week when Tv Outlets went to appalachia and found death, destruction, desperation and total Death Toll now over 220, much of that or some of that in that region alone. We need things like baby formula, baby food, pet supplies. We need outreach. Please, Baby Hasnt eaten in fife days. Hes a year old. Five days. And i have a 9yearold son thats got epilepsy, and i havent been able to feed him anything in three days. And its just really horrifying. Because theres still people there that are really hard to get to, and were really worried about all the people that are still there. Howard its just absolutely heartbreaking, and its not over. Tomi lahren, did tv largely ignore it was the fifth or sixth story down, the devastation last weekend. Because North Carolina, tennessee are sort of deemed Flyover Country by the coastal elites and not really on the national radar. I will give them credit in the latter half of the week for covering some of these stories, or really difficult stories to hear. You know, to be fair to the mainstream media which i dont often like to do, i will say in this Election Cycle theres a lot of stories, theres a lot of news, theres a lot going on. Its understandable theres going to be many, many stories, and its a juggling act. I will say, however, that listening to these people and every Interview View you hear from them, these people are really saying, you know, where is the government . Were not seeing the Fema Support that we want to be seeing. And maybe for some of these other mainstream networks, they dont want that narrative out there because it looks bad on the bidenharris administration. Im happy the see some of these stories coming out now. It reminds me a lot of the coverage of east palestine, ohio. For a couple of days you get a lot of coverage, but these people in North Carolina are going to be struggling for a long time to come, so its really important we dont just gloss over their stories as many news comes their way. Howard yeah. Something like 4,000 fema officials on the ground, and biden has sent 1,000 active duty military troops. But imagine if this had been in new jersey, right across from manhattan. Would it have been different if president biden gave a Speech Oaf the weekend instead of just putting out statements . He finally did address it on monday. Dont reporters tend to follow the lead of the White House . Absolutely. And the Use Superstorm sandy, you remember that Coverage Howard who could forget . Yeah. To me, i think a lot of this falls on the White House. If the president was out there, if he said, hey, listen, im going to have a newser in the briefing room, im going to bring these officials in right away and say this is what were doing, this is our strategy, this is how were helping, this is how were mobilizing, that, i think, heightens the coverage. I hate to admit it but, you know what . Tomis right. When you have a slammed news cycle, you have a De Facto president , you have a vp whens sort of out there, you have the campaign 30 days away, youve got a lot of buckets that are full. So i can understand the slow response in terms of news coverage. But i think had the White House been more aggressive in its messaging, i think that might have changed the tone of coverage. Howard right. Wild. En has since visited the siege right, biden has since visited the region. There got to be a sort of back and forth between Joe Biden and Donald Trump about the Rescue Efforts and what has been said. Lets take a look. The governors doing a very good job, hes having a hard time getting the president on the phone. I guess theyre not, theyre not being responsive. He is lying. Let me get this straight, hes lying. And the governor told him he was of lying. Finish the governor told him he was lying. Ive spoken to the governor or ive spent time with him. Howard theyre talking about Georgia Republican Governor Brian Kemp who confirms that he spoke to the President Maneuver once. More than once. So whos politicizing the humanitarian crisis here . And even the suggestion that the governments not helping republican counties. Tomi. Well, right, howie. I dont think its ever fair to say, you know, one administration is not helping people because of who they are or who they might vote for. I think in Tome Times of tragedy and natural a disaster and heartbreak, t not time to have those conversations. I think we need to worry about the people being impacted and get them what they need. But listening to the volunteers across our network, people doing the hard work delivering water, supplies, trying to rescue people in private helicopters, the story seems to be somewhat the same, that they wish that there was more action from the federal government. Yes, we know that there are so many thousand agents, this, that and the other, yes. But the people on the ground are saying a lot of private citizens are doing a lot of the work. So if thats not the case, i think to kevins point the White House needs to be more proactive in getting the message out that they are sending help as fast as they can. Howard i hear you. Kamala harris was in North Carolina yesterday, and earlier she visited georgia, and Fox News was the only major Cable Network to cover that. When trump visited georgia, Fox News was the only major Cable News Show to channel to coffer it. Lets face it, do more, do it often, do it quickly because people need the help. Howard right. 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They should have never allowed the information to be to come before the public, but they did that because they want to hurt you with the election. Howard thats from an interview with news nation. And, kevin, The One line that jumped out everyones using is that January 6th told that mike January 6th told Mike Pences life was in danger, trump said to have said, so what . And ronna mcdaniel, the former rnc chair, said the claim about rigged Voting Machines was fing nuts, but overall, isnt this a familiar tale . I dont want to say much ado about nothing, howie. I actually read it, all 16 apages, and i went over it, i think, with The View that i didnt expect it to change a lot, and it didnt. I think what hurts here if youre Donald Trump is this puts it back into the spotlight. It foists it back onto the american public. I just dont know why the judge would do this other than having enmity because she didnt have to let this come out at this point. If youre Jack Smith, of course, youre trying to create this environment. I just dont know that we learned a lot. Howard you know, we had Mike Pences book, we had the January 6th committee report, a Gazillion News stories. I get part of what Jack Smith is doing here, tomi, is pursuing legal strategy in light of the scotus ruling on president ial immunity, but as far as the Bombshell Coverage and, of course, we all probably follow this more than the average person it just seemed like we kind of knew a lot of this. Yeah. Knew a lot of it, and ill also say that if you are i would also say if you wake up every day and think about January 6th, protecting democracy because of January 6th is your primary reason to go out and vote for Kamala Harris, thats a really privileged position to be in. And, of course, those that sit on liberal, mainstream media networks, theyre in privileged positions, and they think about January 6th every day. Your average american out there, this is not even in the top five issues that they care about. And i would also say as much as i do think it was intended as maybe election interference, i do think that every time they go after Donald Trump, people are so sick and tired of it, so sick and tired of the Song And Dance that i think it could actually help Donald Trump because we know when his back is against the wall, his supporters not only turn out, but theyre passionate. We we want the move on and save the american people, is what the base is telling us. Drum on with January 6th, but its a very privileged thing to care about day in and day out. Howard i wouldnt argue with you about it being in the top five issues, but it was a dark day in our countrys history. Its just that it has been subjected to this overother and over again over and over and over again, and thats why the former president s crying foul. I kept you around for another segment, but well let you go now. Thanks very much. 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As you know, Tim Walz appeared on Fox News sunday today, just a couple of hours ago, and here is part of what he said. The people that are in the is Situation Room with Donald Trump, like john kelly, his chief of staff, said he shouldnt be there. Hes a damaged human being. Howard your response to that personal jab. Well, the personal jab is because Tim Walz wants to hide from his own record. The Bottom Line is when Donald Trump was president of the united states, we had peace around the world. We had economic prosperity in our country, and we had a border that was closed. In four short years, weve got a World On Fire whether its in israel or an open border, and weve got economic calamity here. So tim Walz And Vice president harris, if they are elected, will be the most radical, dangerous elected officials this world has ever seen, and thats why the american people in four weeks from tuesday are going to return Donald Trump to the White House. Howard the Media Consensus even among most liberals is that j. D. Vance clearly won that debate, but in that debate i was struck how Senator Vance spent time expressing, you know, hes prolife, expressing sympathy for the prochoice view saying he knew people who had such abortions. So was his job to not just soften his own image a bit, buts perhaps Donald Trumps as well . No, listen, he did a phenomenal job. Obviously, he won that debate. When your opponent calls himself a knucklehead on national television, us tells you it tells you hes losing, and he hate to say basically im a liar, but he used the Word Knucklehead instead. J. D. Vance said the issue of roe v. Wade has gone back to the states, and the states will decide what theyre going to do. And the state where j. D. Vance lives, ohio, a key state like kansas, theyve continued to allow people to be able to make those its decisions. Look, thats how states are supposed to operate, the laboratories of democracy. The converse of that is tim Walzs Issue on abortion. And your cohost on this network held his feet to the Fire Today when she asked him, do you believe that a 9month abortion is within the lines of what most people think, and he basically said, yes, it is. We have no exceptions at any stage in abortion in the state of minnesotament. He supports that law. Minnesota. He supports that law, and that is outside the realm of the mainstream. Howard that, of course, was Shannon Bream. Now, a few days ago former President Trump called Kamala Harris mentally impaired whereas biden had just gotten old. I know march are trump tried to dismiss this as a joke, but it didnt sound that way to me. Look, the reality is you have the ask yourself, you know, Kamala Harris has now been the Vice President for four years, howie, and still nobody has asked her when kid she know about Joe Bidens mental decline, and why hasnt she told anyone about it . Its amazing shes never been asked about this. She has an enormous amount of responsibility for the way this country has been run the last four years. Joe biden said at a Press Conference this week he and Vice President harris are Hand And Glove today, every policy that is his is Hers And Vice versa. If thats the case, obviously, very out of touch with america, very radical. She has to answer the tough questions, but shes refused toot that, by and large. Howard absolutely fair question, what did she know about the president s obviously declining condition, but why call her mentally impaired . What does that get your campaign . Well, look, howie, i think the real question is what has she done to the make our lives better. Thats really the Bottom Line. You ask yourself the ageold question are you better off today than four years ago, and by every discernible metric the answer is, no. Weve got 13,000 mudders, in murder You Arers in this country, 16,000 rapists under this administration. People are worse off today than theyve ever been. So either shes mentally deficient or terrible at her job. Either one does not mean you get a promotion. Howard when trump says that Jack Smith, the special counsel, was doing the bidding of Harris And Biden by submitting his January 6th report which was then unsealed by a federal judge, what evidence do you have of that, that they were involved in any way . Because that would be radioactive on their part. Well, this is the biden Justice Department. We know that. We know every decision goes through the Attorney General whether he wants to admit it or not. We know that the Attorney General when it came to raiding maralago personally signed off on it. We look at what this Department Of Justice has done against conservatives whether its peter navarro, jailing him, or Steve Bannon whos still in jail or the Way Theyve continued to prosecute Donald Trump for the issues done while he was in the bidding when he has immunity. This Justice Department has been completely egregious. The federal judge in florida ruled Jack Smith doesnt even have standing because he was a private citizen appointed to prosecute a president. It doesnt happen. He should never be there, and she should he should have been thrown out a long time ago. Howard i take your point. On the other hand, when you say its the biden Justice Department, i mean, ultimately, it was the decision, obviously, by the federal judge. Now, president biden had some words to say the other day about the possibility of postelection violence. Take a look. Im confident itll be free and fair. I dont know whether itll be peaceful. The things that trump has said and the things that he said last Time Out when he didnt like the outcome of the election were very dangerous. Howard so biden is saying that trumps rhetoric could lead to postelection violence. Im sure youd like to respond to that. Howie, its complete nonsense. Look, the Bottom Line is when Donald Trump won the election in 2016, a number of democrats refused to even acknowledge his success. Hillary clinton called him an illegitimate president dozens of times, we know that. Members of congress refused to show up at his inauguration because they said he wasnt properly elected, it was russian interference. The Bottom Line is when Donald Trump wins this election, therell be a peaceful transition of power, and hell be the 47th president of the united states. Howard i do have to point out while Hillary Clinton certainly said those things, she did concede the election the next day. Now now, the the negative coverage overwhelmingly about swrch d. Vance, do you think many in the media just have a visceral dislike of him . They do because, look, this guys been the american success story. When you look at his Debate Performance this week, howie, this is a guy whos been in elected office for two years, and you put that up against Governor Walz whos been in for 20 years. How is Governor Walz so unprepared . Hes so unprepared on the national stage, and he is not qualified to be the Vice President of the united states. If you looked at that a phenomenal performance that j. D. Vance turned in at that debate, theres nobody in america who says this man is not qualified. But the media hates him because hes incredibly smart, hes witty, and he pushes back and Fact Checks them back, howie. We saw that during the debate. When the moderator started to Fact Check him, he said, stop, let me fact if check your Fact Check, and he was 100 correct. Howard i do appreciate that he makes himself so available to the media outlets. I think the other side could take a note on that. Corey lewandowski, thanks for coming back on mediabuzz. Good to see you. Happy stunned. Howard after the break, well talk to michigans democratic congresswoman, Debbie Dingell. Paint. Its more than cleaning. Thats the thing well never forget. For belfor, its your memories. Its your lifes passion. Its your home. Belfor, restoring more than property. Howard joining us now from the Battleground State of michigan, democratic congresswoman Debbie Dingell of the House Energy and commerce committee. Welcome. Youre in one of those Blue Wall states that Kamala Harris needs to win. Politico saying now democrats are worried about michigan slipping away. If Donald Trump is as much of a danger to democracy as democrats say, why is Kamala Harris according to the real clear politics average leading by 0. 7 which is a statistical tie . Howie, its good to see you, good to be with you. Look, if you listened the me all year, ive said from the very beginning michigans a purple state, and its going to be until election day. The fact of the matter is neither candidate has yet to win this state. Donald trump has very strong supporters, there is no question. They supported him in 216, and ive told people they were this and nobody believed me. But people have been getting to know her. People concern i was not there, but ive talked to many people that were at her speech in flint friday. Union workers, a couple of them who had told me they werent sure who they were going to vote for said theyre going to the, and we are going to be competitive. Were, this state is going to be competitive, and it can go either way. And its going to come down to who turns out the vote on election day. Howard and have you made those views known to the campaign . Okay, howie, how well do you know me . Howard pretty well. I mean, ive interviewed you a number of times, yeah. I mean, everybody knows i tell people as it is. And i was extremely unpopular and everybody got mad at me because i will say this the to you, at this time in 216 i knew that Donald Trump was going to win, and i it would people Donald Trump was going to win michigan, and everybody rolled their eyes, said i didnt know what i was talking about. I did know what i was talking about. Im in the same union halls, im in those i go to the american legions, the vfws, the farmer markets, the churches, and im hearing a lot of different things. And the mideast situation in michigan is a complicated factor on top of what i saw in 216. Howard right. This election is complicated in michigan. Howard congresswoman, do you think as a congresswoman that gender is a minor if factor in this race . I do believe that that is probably true. I think that more women the right for a woman to make her own Health Care decisions is, without fail, probably one of the biggest issues in this state. But i will tell you that the Vice President has a problem with union workers, many of them men, as well as, quite frankly, africanamerican if young men who have said the me, i was with a group of them last week, you know what . Donald trump talks to us. Democrats take us for granted. Now, i think people are trying to fix that, theyre trying to get in there, theyre trying to make sure that theyre being listened to, and im not a they need to hear from their peers, their colleagues. But i do know that the campaign is addressing that issue. We cant take anybody if for granted. Howard lets turn to the vp debate. Even many democrats are saying j. D. Vance had a better nis quoted as saying of Tim Walz, this is not the Appearance Debate you would want. Vance got away with a lot. What was your take in. So i would i think it was a draw. And the reason im going the tell you i think it was a draw was because of the last question. If on January 6th. I think j. D. Vance is, the nice j. D. Vance showed up that night and i, quite frankly, was very pleasantly surprised at the civility of the entire event. But the true j. D. Vance came out when the discussion of January 6th occurred, and he reinforced what we already know from former President Trump, that he will not say that he will accept the results of the election. I believe in the integrity of of the Election System and think there are many republicans and democrats, clerks and State Officials working hard so that we keep our democracy strong and believe in those institutions. We have some that are not, that wont accept it if they lose. And when people say that what happened at the capitol on January 6th was okay and that people who have been convicted by a jury of their peers have been given sentences for what they do did and theyre told that theyre going to be released, i fear for our democracy. And i think that question alone reminded people about how tenuous our democracy is right now. Howard did Kamala Harris accomplish anything, in your view, by going to the border when, as everyone knows, immigration is perhaps Donald Trumps Signature Issue and some create ins are saying too little, too late . If critics. You know what . I think she got to remind people, first of all, i want to talk about that crime corey was talking about. Let us remind if everybody that crime was at its highest, the highest its been in this country under former Donald Trumps former administration. And we have had, seen significant violent crime in this country is down at the lowest level in 2024 than its been since 1969. We saw a 2222 2222 22 decrease in murders this year. And when she went to the border, it was an opportunity to remind this country again we all not everybody, but i am, many of us, bipartisan, know that we need come presencive immigration reform. Comprehensive. And led by the efforts of a very conservative senator, a group old of republican and democratic senators negotiated a compromise. We would have had the votes, we would have voted on it. Democratic and republican president s have been unab able to get this done, and one man and that Mans Name is Donald Trump said dont vote on this, dont give them a win. Well, im not i dont believe in fighting for elections. I think we need to be working together for a win for the american people. And she was able to remind if people that politics, lets get a win for the american people. Howard ill take that as a yes. Congresswoman Debbie Dingell, thanks for joining us. Thank you. Howard still to come, melanias october surprise, shes prochoice on abortion. [dog bark] [dog whining] is your dog telling you they may have allergic itch . Apoquel is the 1 treatment for allergic itch. That veterinarians have trusted for over 15 Million dogs. 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Maria melania, you also write about abortion in the book. You write that you are staunchly for a womans right to choose. He knew my beliefs, as i said, so he knew it would be in the book. He let me be who i am, and he let me believe what i believe. Howard joining us now, alexandria hoff, a Fox News reporter here in washington. Isnt it a bit strange that the former First Lady, whos bare barely been visible in this campaign, would drop this a month before the election and perhaps fuel doubts from prolife groups who are already unhappy with Donald Trump. If. Right. What she had said was this book was already in print before this president ial election was even underway howard they could have delayed it. Exactly. Think concern i think that will lead some to believe there is a bit of strategy perhaps here in that of course husbands and wives even in the White House disagree on issues bull. This did come out now. It also comes on the heels of some believing j. D. Vance was a bit moderate in the debate on the issue of abortion. Are they trying to bring in more moderate voters . Hey, we might not agree all of us on all the parameters, so you might be welcome here. Howard not unusual for married couples to disagree on issues, but this is the potential Future President and First Lady. Of course, theyve had that job before. Theres also a They Arely theory this helps Donald Trump, maybe you were starting to hint at this because if the First Lady is seen as a moderating force on the very divisive and moral issue of abortion, that could be good. But, of course, it didnt stop the former president from appointing the three conservative justices who overturned roe. I dont necessarily think this is what they wanted to have to talk about howard right. Takes them off script. To that former President Trump wanted to the answer right now. To some, the obvious point some are making, oh, wow, she doesnt support him on this issue. The former president has said i would veto a federal ban on abortion. You could see this as her, again, kind of opening arms to the republican party saying we have variety in our opinions in this party. On the left there is no, there is no difference in perspective. Theres no restrictions, nobodys saying that. Howard its interesting because Tim Walz in his Fox News Sunday Interview today kept saying, and harris says this too, that trump would sign a national ban. And yet hes said many times that that he wouldnt. So it was a liberal Media Columnist who says this revelation is a who isal Hue Hue Mill Concern Humiliation of her husband. Do you buy that . I dont think so. We have known this couple for a long time now. I think weve all gauged there has been a difference in perspective on maybe even a couple issues at this point. I dont think this shocks anybody. I dont even think it necessarily embarrasses former President Trump. I think he is one who is maybe partial to feeling betrayed by people, and i dont think shes one of those people. The former First Ladys been very adamant that theyve had these conversations in the past, he knew what she was going to write in this book and that it was already in print. She, it seems like shes alleging this was not supposed to come out. Howard okay. Well, its out, and that means its fodder for the media, and im glad to hear what she really thinks. Alex of, great for you to have stopped by. That is it for this edition of mediabuzz. If you are so inclined, subscribe to my if free daily podcast, media was meter buzz meter. We have a little more room to talk. Also important to remind you we are back here next sunday, 11 eastern. 30 days to to go in this campaign, so you dont want about to miss if it. If not, well put the segments online. Good to see you. Hi, My Name is damian clark. 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