My angle in moments. But, first, in just two hours, you 8 see what will likely be the final debate of this long election season. J. D. Vance versus tim walz. It comes on a day of chaos around the globe. And more suffering here at home. With two major crises unfolding. A port strike that could end up costing the u. S. About $5 billion a day. And the human tragedy and infrastructure collapse from one of the deadliest hurricanes in american history. Now, the death toll has stood now, i think it's at about 159 people, tragic, entire communities flattened. Americans are still struggling to get the basic necessities, like water. And overseas, a significant escalation. Iran retaliated against israel's successful decapitation of hezbollah's leadership. And launched at least 180 missiles into israel, lighting up the sky. Virile prime minister benjamin netanyahu warning iran a painful lesson we attack back. Now, americans are watching all. This and they are wondering who is really running the country tonight? after all, you know, they dumped joe from the ticket because he presumably was not up to the task with you the vice presidential debate can you watch live on fox news will tell us a lot about the future. How either of these administrations could, perhaps, handle the next crisis. Let's go live now to the debate site where fox news senior white house correspondent jacqui heinrich is standing by. Jacqui, do we have any indication of how tim walz prepared for tonight? well, laura, all we really know is transportation secretary pete buttigieg has been standing in for j. D. Vance in walz's debate prep. And despite more help from two aides who also prepared the vice president for her debate, walz is reportedly nervous, scared he will disappoint harris. And even warned her that he is a bad debater. Now, that could be a standard play to try to lower exceptions. But one democrat from his state lent some credence to this saying that walz can be very that's it i'm done. So his temperament will be under the microscope tonight. The campaign has really kept walz out of the media circuit since joining the ticket except for one joint interview with vice president haste where he squirmed under questions about misrepresenting his military record. Today, the campaign ducked new questions about walz fudging the details on the time he spent in china and face nod questions about controversial bills he signed as minnesota's governor, like granting drivers licenses to illegal immigrants and making minnesota a sanctuary state for children seeking transgender surgeries. Tonight, the goal is to put trump in the room. One campaign source says walz wants to highlight that harris weapons a new way forward and not let vance make up for trump's bad debate. That's their view. They also view vance as a skilled debater. His last opponent, tim ryan said in an interview that vance can, quote, articulate the intellectual under pinnings of trump's rants. So walz's job is to not let him get away with that but certainly be very difficult for him to turn the attentions to the other side when really he has been left unexpected until tonight. Laura? laura: jacqui, very interesting. Now we turn to the other side of tonight's debate j. D. Vance who unlike tim walz hasn't spent the entire campaign hiding from the press. How is he preparing for the debate in for that we turn to fox news congressional correspondent aishah hasnie. Aishah? aishah: yeah, good evening to you, laura. That's actually what a lot of his surrogates are saying right now is that he has been out there doing a lot of interviews over 100 so far and that has really helped him prepare for tonight's big debated. And the preparation team, the debate prep team is saying that senator vance is, quote: prepared to wipe the floor tonight with tim walz. But the former president is already out there saying the debate will be rigged against his running mate, now, vance was smiling, looked pretty happy, cheerful, waived as he landed in new york yesterday looking like he is feeling pretty good today. The campaign is raising exceptions for governor walz, claiming that he is actually really good on the debate stage. But again they add that senator vance is prepared because has done so many interviews so far since becoming the nominee. The strategy tonight, laura, is to go after walz's military record, his time in congress. His far left woke policies as they say when he was governor. The ticket stance on illegal immigration and also their economic policies in creation that contrast tim walz kamala harris believe bigger government. Solution to everything. Donald trump, j. D. Vance, no tax on tips no, tax on overtime. No tax on social security. You get to decide what to do with your economic success. Aishah: laura, there will be a lotted of surrogates in the spin room tonight for senator vance. I want to show you around really quickly here including the manual who you could say is credited for getting him on the ticket in the first place and that is don jr. He will be here tonight as well as some of his senate colleagues, including senator tom cotton will also be here tonight. Laura? laura: all right. We will be watch. Aishah, thanks so much. Trump's last debate was basically 3 on 1 with the moderators taking him on almost as many times as kamala did. But tonight cbs says that its moderators will not do any live factchecking. They say that it's up to the candidates to factcheck each other but wait a second, not so fast. Oliver darcy is reporting that cbs news is leaving open the possibility that the moderators may step in and offer fact checks of their own joining us now jason miller trump senior adviser. Jason, politico is reporting today that you were part of a small team that helped prep for tonight's debate also congressman ehmer and j. D. 's wife who is brilliant in her own right. What can you tell us give us a little color before the debate? one thing to keep in mind tim walz is actually pretty good. I don't know who gave that tim walz is a pushover. Not the person up there doing jazz hands and flapping around like he does at the rallies. He will be sharp, he will be disciplined. Here's the thing on tim walz, he will lie through his teeth. I was watching one of his old debate clips earlier. He literally said in a debate you're not going to get a tax hike. I'm just going to roll back your tax cuts. That's the kind of nonsense he will say. No, you are going to raids taxes, so he is really good at looking the american public in the eye and lying. J. D. Vance is going to be ready. J. D. Vance is very sharp. He knows how to articulate's trump's vision when it comes to the economy and securing the border. Tim walz political politician. He has been doing this two decades, j. D. Vance two years. Laura: the problem with debates i will talk about this in the angle coming up. They are not designed to get they issues who is the better debater. It's to center from on likabilities. Can you relate to the mom of three single no, ma'am mom of three watching in ohio tonight. Can you relate to the hispanic family in arizona, what their issues and needs are? cutting through likability question. I think that's as big of a deal tonight as the substance. The debate has been won on the substance, i think on the border and the economy. The likability question, i think that's a bigger hurdle. Yeah. When j. D. Vance is talking about his humble upbringing, when he is talking about his military service in the marines. Is he very good. It's background people can relate to. Is he someone who is raised largely by his grandmother who had tough evenings. Laura: they used to love him during hillbilly egg i didn't. Juiced to like him. Don't like him anymore. Got the book and movie all the sudden they decide they had didn't. When j. D. Vance talks about background it connects with what president trump is trying to doin' 00 policy side. People are suffering when it comes to the economy. Look around today what is happening with iran and israel. The whole world gone to hell because kamala harris has made bad decisions. That's why this v. P. Debate is consequential. You see what kamala did at the border. We see what she did with inflation. She was the last room in the room with afghanistan. Gave joe biden the go ahead. That was disastrous, of course,field fueled iran and everything else. The vp debate is very important. J. D. Has an ability to connect with people because he knows exactly what it is like to struggle. Laura: we are learning tonight that kamala harris did not do the annual hurricane preparedness briefings that her predecessor mike pence did in the trump administration and most administrations do on an annual basis. You will could see that you don't want to just jump into a hurricane or prep for a hurricane if you don't know anything about it she according to the reports tenth had not attended a single hurricane preparedness briefing during her time in office does that matter. It doesn't surprise me. Look at the administration's terrible response with regard to hurricane helene this week. Look at how terrible biden and harris were to responding to east palestine. This is more of their m. O. Other thing kamala harris probably had a fund raisener san francisco or some other equally terrible excuse. That's the type of inept leadership they have right now. You will hear tim walz say turn the page. You can't turn the page when the book is about kamala harris. The entire book about kamala harris. They want to get rid of her. Put someone in there push normal common sense things like secure the border. Get our economy back on track the way president trump had it before. Laura: thanks so much for being with us. All right. The left is trying to build walz up as jason said to be the every man but is he really just a radical liar. My angle exposes him, next. ♪ ♪ laura: bursting tim's bubble wrap that's the focus of tonight's angle. All right. We're about to watch the first and only vice presidential debate of the election season and, know this. Tim walz is a congenital liar. He lied about his retired military rank. He lied about where he was deployed. And he allowed others to misstate those facts, giving the impression he was stationed in afghanistan and, of course, that he retired as a command sergeant major. He even lied about being a football coach. A high school football coach. He has an assistant coach. Okay. Who cares? so why lie? he has such a problem telling the truth that now we're wondering if he is lying about his lying. In an obvious attempt to blunt the coming vance attacks on credibility and it close ties to china, walz is now claiming that he had previously exsass gear rated the number of times he traveled to china. Try to follow. This in 2016, he said that he went to china dozens of times. That same year he said this: i lived in china and, as i said, i have been there about 30 times. Laura: 30 times? now he claims it was only 15. A big differential. Now, why would he do this? well, because most normal people would think it's really odd for a candidate for the vice presidency to feel so close, so connected with communist china. Of course, it's a brutal dictatorship minorities and dissidents. No biggie. James comer is telling us whistleblowers are coming forward to reveal more about their true nature of these trips. Hmmm, very disturbing. That's not all. We are learning about another walz lie courtesy of the washington free beacon. Now, walz is trying to burnish his resume. Don't you love people like that. Walz had claimed over the years to have been in china during the tiananmen massacre in 1989. I was in hong kong on june 4th, 1989 when, of course, tiananmen square happened. An opportunity to be in a chinese high school at that critical time seemed to me to be really important. It was a very interesting summer, to say the least. Laura: but the truth is, he was in nebraska where apparently it wasn't as interesting. Now, of course, there is another reason why they wouldn't let him do interviews, this is just obvious, and why he avoids reporters like the plague. The washington post reported that he is a surprisingly bubble wrapped campaigner. It's not surprising at all. The harris people know is he huge negative. Because apparently no ones know how to vet vp contenders, they can't let him do interviews because his background is so shady. Thus, all they can do leading up to this debate is lower exceptions. And it's been something to behold. First, walz supposedly let it be known that he was nervous about the vance matchup. Just what you want in a v. P. And now he is all of his friends at axios are claiming that some democrats are in a state of panic about how walz will perform tonight. They note that walz has a tendency when attacked and ramble and trim hi trip himselfn unscripted settings. Sounds like kamala. Is he a liberal blow hard rolls over for the far left and hates being questioned. What's your reaction to the gaza? thanks, everybody. Laura: thanks, everybody, have a vanilla malt, now what everyone needs to keep in mind highly unlikely the cbs moderators will challenge walz on any of the tough questions and go around the edges a little bit. I have a belief that they will probably work to protect him every chance they get. If the past is prologue, they will let him ramble on about all the good folks that he has had the chance to meet along the way and how washington needs a little minnesota nice. He'll attack j. D. Vance who came from nothing, of course, attack him as antiwomen. Antifemale elitist. And, after it's all over tonight, the new york times, the washington post, and other media outlets will all declare that exalz won because he was more relatable. But at a time of crisis at home and abroad, we need a vice president whose judgment and intellect is exceptional. We're not voting for an assistant coach or a best buddy or high school history teacher, as wonderful as all those positions are they are we are voting for the candidate whom we can trust to be able to step in if something should happen to the president. And, do we really want this man to be a heart beat away from the nuclear codes? in minnesota, he bowed to almost every demand. He supported almost every left wing agenda item. And as vp, yes, he would do the same. From letting a city burn in the summer of 2020. And calling in the national guard too late. To supporting a socalled trans refuge law that gives the state the right to full phi parental rights. Allowing borings of babies through the ninth month of pregnancy and refusing infants medical care if they are born alive after an abortion attempt. Of course, signing legislation to not only give illegal immigrants the right to get drivers licenses but also free college tuition. But in the end, tim walz always focuses on making one group the far left very happy. I my pronoun she/her. Chief house for of house file 146. Trans refuge law which is being signed into law today by governor walz. Don't be fooled by the awe shucks demeanor because walz is an extremist. Is there any daylight between him and ilhan omar, the congresswoman from his home state? if there is, i don't see it, maybe he will show us some daylight tonight. Remember, the purpose of these debates isn't to highlight substantive differences between the candidates or to give equally tough questions to both sides. Debates today, sadly, are simply another opportunity for the media to proclaim how great the democrats are. As for vance, he should be ready because he has been with the hostile press for years especially since he got the nod from trump. That's not how the process works you know that. It very often is how the process works, margaret. It is not. The biden administration has been scandalous in not properly vetting these people. Absolutely done this stuff. It's not crazy, john. Come on. You should not be able to take people's children away from them. And that's not what he hazard proposed. If you disagree with decisions about gender reassignment. Yes, he has proposed that, john. Laura: he knows they are going to pummel him about his statements about haitian food choices. And he knows that they are going to spend more timeh than they wl on china or immigration. And the angle suspects that vance, without being arrogant, will methodically answer each question. And then turn the tables on both walz and the moderators. But the fundamental question remains for voters tonight. Are you happy with the way things are going with the cost of food, the cost of gas, with explosion of migrants or the handling of crises foreign and domestic? because, there is no indication that either walz or harris will be any more confident than biden and harris. They will probably worse in effect. And all the bubble wrap in the world won't insulate us from the pain that will follow. And that's the angle. All right, up next. The bidenharris administration refusing to intervene and another completely avoidable disaster. ♪ sarah her arm! oh, no. 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As if our economy wasn't already on the edge now dock workers at 36 ports across america, the east coast, gulf of mexico, are now on strike. Now, a president fully engaged, using the bully pulpit to get all parties to the table would have had at least some chance of averting this strike. But, of course, that's not what happened here. And if this keeps going. We could see supply chain issues and even more surprise hike force american families. Where is the administration on this? where are the issues most prominent? where have you been kind of focused in hearing on what would happen if the strike goes, let's say, longer than a week? uh, again, i have not been very focused on that. [gasp] laura: why on earth would our commerce secretary be focused on a strike that could cripple commerce. Uh? this is unserious bunch at a very serious time for the united states unless you think it was more important for our secretary of transportation to do debate prep with tim walz when a hurricane was threatening our transportation sector. Joining me now is judge jeanine pirro cohost of the five. Judge, six days ago reuters reported that the white house was monitoring the port talks and considering the effects of a strike. They do a lot of monitoring. And they do a lot of considering. They did that before the hurricane. But that the job doesn't require monitoring it. Requires using that bully pulpit and the power of the presidency. Well, there's no question. This campaign, everything about what we're seeing now and this is like an october surprise, is about a lack of leadership. It's about a lack of initiative. It's about recognizing what's going to happen. Everybody knew when this contract was up. Everybody knew in june that that was the last discussion anybody had. Whether it's the secretary of commerce or the secretary of labor. The truth is geno raimondo said after two assassination attempts on trump she says trump needs to be elimit eliminated. She said we didn't lose 800,000 jobs. Yes, you did. She is not keyed into the job. You have got to prepare. You have got to know what is going to happen. This is going to cost the american people at love money. These are the holidays,. Laura: they don't care. They don't care. You got people inflood. I lost my house in a flood when i was a kid. Our house went away. Laura: you know what that's like. Judge jeanine: 80% of the canned goods come through the longshoremen. Now we are not going to get those. 85% of canned goods. These people cannot predict a problem and deal with it. Laura: nbc reported yesterday for everyone criticizing anyone criticizing the administration's response i guess nbc is in on the conspiracy. They reported that over in north carolina, one come county manager said we requested water even before the storm started we felt some people were going to be cut off because of how much s coming. Bun come county received first shipment of water at 2:30 a. M. Yesterday. No surprise, judge? judge jeanine: this is an administration that only reacts in time. Better hope they reacted in time. They requested thursday night and get water today. Helicopters, supposedly. Laura: private helicopters got involved because they couldn't get enough government personnel. They have 3,000 people there now. But the point is, you can't predict everything about a hurricane lawyer. Judge jeanine: i can. Laura: how devastating the pat look. Can't dump stuff at the big bend area of florida and some in georgia. You have to have some provisions on the ground ready for the people. Ready to deploy to the people right away. She didn't go to the hurricane briefings annually we learned tonight. That did happen. Why do that when can you travel around the country whatever they were doing. Judge jeanine: legalize weed when you put 2,000 people in jail for smoking weed. The truth is kamala harris has not focused these people are not serious sad b. Part about all of this americans are suffer. Ing if joe biden wanted to solve the longshoremen he could bring in the taft hartley act. Laura: he says he is not doing that. Judge jeanine: of course is he not doing that he says he wants the labor support. Laura: imagine this went down in the last year of the trump administration. What do you think the media? do you think they would say donald trump engaged in monitoring the talks. Do you think they will slaughter him. Judge jeanine: without a doubt. Laura: metaphorically for not doing more. Judge jeanine: in the four years if donald trump and when donald trump becomes president, everything is going to be taken care of. It's like the baby formula. They were shutting down baby formula factories and. Laura: i forgot about that the bad dream the baby formula. Judge jeanine: shortage of baby formula. Only in the stores. Laura: some things that have happened i forgot about that. Judge jeanine: by the way at the border. No shortage at the border of the formula. Laura: biden says he is in constant contact with the key players over in the middle east. Obviously another crisis brewing there let's watch this. Do you think the government is doing enough? honestly, i don't know how you did not have a formal a formal press conference or something from either president biden or kamala harris? i mean, how do you not say anything for four days? they have been stranded for four days and this is the first we have heard from them at all. Fema is not on the ground there. Laura: i guess she is in on the conspiracy, too. Obviously that's not the middle east clip. I'm glad we played that again, the people are suffering. She is not a right wing pundit. That's a woman in need. People in need in the middle east now, too. And people are afraid of what is going to happen next. Green. Judge jeanine: they are afraid. What is the first thing joe biden says last night after they take down nasrallah and all the walkietalkies, ceasefire now. It's the same thing he said on october 8th. We are going to assist israel in its defense. Maybe you ought to just stay back. Let israel fight the fight because they can do it and they can win. Laura: i'm never using a pager again. Are you? do you have any of your old pagers? judge jeanine: i had one when i was married. I should have kept that. [laughter] laura: a lot for these days if they don't blow up. Good to see you. Laura: iran escalates its assault on israel as the judge was just saying while biden and harris too busy staging photo ops. Next. ♪ a turbotax expert. 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Take back control with lipo flavonoid. ♪ laura: more instability, more chaos, and another crisis unfolding under biden and harris' watch. Now, imagine, blowing through more than 180 missiles intended for your target, to basically no effect. Fox news international correspondent mike tobin is live from high of fashion israel. Mike, you spent so many years well in the aftermath of unprecedented missile strike leaders are ignoring leaders about warning escalating tensions in the region. Prime minister benjamin netanyahu said that iran made a grave mistake and they will pay for it. Defense minister yoav gallant says iran isn't learning whoever attacks israel pays a heavy price. It was 180plus ballistic missiles, it takes them 12 minutes to get from tehran to here. As they arrived in israel, the night sky lit up with air defenses, not just the iron dome system. But the arrow missile system and the david sling missile system. Most of the missiles were intercepted. Some came down in south and central israel to no effect. Most of the damage that was caused was from the shrapnel from intercepted missiles crashing down. And we know in one case, some of the ha shrapnel came down in the west bank town of jericho and killed a palestinian plan. It sent israelis scrambling for shelter but otherwise the grand attack was in effected. Still the supreme leader of iran tweeted a taunt in hebrew saying the blows of the uprising front will become stronger and more painful of the rotting body of the zionist regime. With that the u. S. Worries about escalation. We have, of course, do not want to see a wider regional conflict. Have you heard us say that many times and we will continue to work towards that end. But we also fully understand the fact that this was a significant attack by iran. And so we're going to continue to consult closely. And we're going to continue to support their defense. And there was a mass shooting in the old city ofafter if a, very near tel aviv. Seven people were killed when two attackers attacked on the light rail. They had at least one m16 style weapon with them and a knife. Seven people were killed, several injured. Attackers themselves were killed. And in the middle of all of that tension israel has been sending a messages in to south beirut, the south beirut suburbs warning people to get out and something they do before new airstrikes go in. Laura? thank you so much. Joining me nathan sails former ambassador at large and coordinator for terror under president trump. Nathan, good to see you. Your old boss spoke today about these strikes. Watch. I have been talking about world war iii for a long time. And i don't want to make predictions because the prohibitions always come true. We're not going to make, but they are very close to global catastrophe. We have a nonexistent president and a nonexistent vice president. Nathan, the situation around the united states with a hurricane suffering and now we see more concern about what's unfolding in the middle east, is president trump right? are we on the verge without strong american leadership of a catastrophe in the middle east? well, laura, thanks for having me on. The world is on fire. And the only way to put it out is for america to assert leadership. That's how you have peace. Peace through strength. You know, president biden keeps telling iran don't. And the iranians keep ignoring him. This is the second time in six months that the iranians have felt emboldened enough to launch a direct attack on israel. And israel can't afford for that to become the new normal. Nor county united states afford for that to become the new normal. What we need to do is bloody iran's nose. Hit them in the nose and that way we can avoid a much bigger fight further down the road. It's all about restoring deterrence. Once you lose deterrence as we have under president biden and vice president harris' watch, it's really really hard to get it back. Laura: now, president biden addressed the issue of an israeli response to today's missile barrage. Watch. You respond to iran. That's an active discussion right now. We got to get all the data straight. We have been in constant contact with the with the israeli government and our counterparts and that remains to be seen. What is the message to prime minister netanyahu and have you spoken with him today? i haven't spoken with him. We have spoken with all his people, and i'll be talking to him and my message would depend on what we finally conclude is needed. Laura: now, nathan, i'm not an expert in foreign diplomacy and these kind of issues. But he says he is in constant contact with israeli government officials. But you haven't spoken to netanyahu? what is that all about? yeah. It's not exactly a message that's calculated to strike fear in the heart of the supreme leader, is it? we're going to talk and we're going to look at the data. This isn't hard. One, we support israel's right to defend itself against genocidal terrorist regimes like the islamic republic of iran. Two, we're going to make you pay a price. We said don't, we said there's going to be severe consequences. Now it's time to match the actions to the words. Because, if you don't, if you threaten, if you cry wolf and then don't deliver, the iranians are going to think you know what? we can get away with murder, literally. Laura: well, right now, nathan, americans are very worried tonight. They don't see an active engaged president. He shows up in the oval and i know he is in the situation room. But everyone knows what it looks like when we have a commanderinchief who is truly there and engaged and that is not what we see tonight in the united states. I'm sad to say that but that is not what we see. Nathan, thank you. All right, what to expect from tonight's big faceoff between j. D. Vance and tim walz. We'll get into it, next. ♪ a little over an hour away from j. D. Vance and tim walz wearing off and that vp debate. We've got some new video of walz arriving earlier, waving and his spirit fingers to his adoring fans and the press. Joining me now, fox news contributor alongside content creator, minnesota radio host. This is quite the group we have today. What are your predictions tonight? i think j. D. Vance us to do a couple of things. First of all, is much as tim walz wants to talk about himself or as a coach or teacher, he's been the governor of minnesota drink some bad times, specifically the george floyd riots, kind of sat by well a lot of minneapolis was destroyed. And then the covid lockdowns as well. Remind people of that and then tie it off the kamala harris. On the other hand, i think walz will take everything that donald trump has ever said that democrats did not like an try to tie it to j. D. Vance. Jesse: i expect things like january 6th and charlottesville and all of that will get another erring tonight, as it did in the previous debate. What do you think j. D. Vance's biggest hurdle is tonight? you are right to expect that because corporate media frequently, it's not about finding answers to important questions, they are seeing people as much as pushing narratives. I think that will be the biggest barrier for j. D. Vance, dealing with not just as democrat opponent on the stage but also the two opponents will be the moderators. He does seem to excel in this though, he's good at questioning the assumptions put forward by leftwing media and articulating a coherent policy position, he one of those might be one of the more effective people at that. Jesse: there's been a game of lowering expectations. It seems like they really want everyone to think that tim walz basically can't even walk to the stage for the debate because he's so inept. Watch. They are actively trying to lower expectations for walz. Vance is very good at this and he was chosen for that. Walz was chosen for that affability, that warmth. The question is, you know,'s are going to be a labrador retriever versus a coyote? jesse: okay. I guess they are saying that the labrador is tim walz. I have two labs and i love them dearly but right now we need leadership. I think that he is a reflection of his candidate, or running mate he has, and that is very difficult to get them to go off of script. What i'm trying to understand is, because they have no doubt in my mind that j. D. Vance is going to absolutely mop the floor with him, what i'm trying to understand is, is j. D. Vance going to push him to be accountable, because you've never seen them actually be able to deal with the question that is completely off of whatever it is that somebody is pushing the narrative of. For example,, if he holds him accountable for how is he going to solve for a problem they created in the immigration crisis, if he asks them a question about how it is he will solve for inflation considering the port workers are on strike. We've seen the biden administration advocate with the uaw members while at the same time remaining silent with this whole port worker crisis which is much more in fact impactful to the u. S. Economy considering that tim walz has never held a private position or has his running mate kamala harris. How do you respond to something like that? jesse: he will not be pressed on any of those specifics, i will be shocked if he is. I don't know if anyone else agrees. You know tim walz but it and anyone else in minnesota, love your radio show there, tell us about the real tim walz. Given what has happened to minnesota, estate i love so much, of spent so much time over the years. Listen, halloween comes early tonight because the tim walz on stage is not the real tim walz. It's a caricature. He's an elitist wannabe, a radical leftists who's masquerading as a moderate. He's a fake and a phony. It's going to be up to j. D. Vance tonight to strip off that mask, to show the country who the real tim walz is. He's faced almost no scrutiny here in the state of minnesota apart from his past runs as governor. Even then he's skips debates before. And so they say he's nervous, i think that's to lower expectations, but if i were to malls or would be nervous because he has to face the questions and hopefully j. D. Vance addresses those embellishments and lies that have been plaguing him this entire campaign with kamala harris. Jesse: it's up to j. D. Vance to do any of that tonight. But if you think we will get policy policy specifics from walz. . . Tim walz needs to be tim walz. Talk about what they will do for america, the hope and joy to malls brings. A talk about my football team that walked out on that stage of the dnc. That was a moment. I think the joy moment, i think those are over. I think people do want to deal with these issues. I don't know how walz will deal with the criticism but i think that vance will probably be pretty good. All the things that vance said, the criticism of trump in 2015, said a lot, all on the record. When vance ran for senate, somebody on his campaign said he had 75 town halls and it everyone he was asked that question, why did you say all those bad things about trump and now you like him? he's dealt with this stuff, specifically about donald trump, for many years. Speaker01: it looks like right now we have kind of frozen election. If you like the status quo, you have to vote for kamala harris. With all that entails, the joy, the socalled abortion for people in alabama. But other than that, if you like the status quo, over her, if you like change vote for trump or vance. I think that's what vance has to say. It's something we really haven't experienced in modern history, this sidebyside comparison of two administrations and their policies. It makes the job easy for j. D. Vance to talk about how things went during the trump administration. It makes it difficult for tim walz and he's having to defend a very unpopular set of policies and a candidate who's having trouble expressing competency. But ultimately for americans, the vice presidential campaign only matters insofar as this referendum on do you want to the peace and the prosperity of the trump era or do you want the chaos, whether it's in north carolina or globally, at the border, at the docks, with the economy? it's not a fun night to be a democrat. Jesse: chaos as far as the eye can see. Minority voters watching this tonight, what is the outreach that j. D. Vance can make. Should it's day on the economy, stay on the border, note nuts and bolt issues? i think the thing is that people are paying attention to identity a lot more because we've seen the advancement of kamala harris being given to us and not necessarily having to debate her way out of a primary, but instead they've seen the promotion of kamala harris and so i think the vice presidential debate is more important than ever because they are looking at these two candidates and seeing if they can fit into the role and step into the role to how kamala harris was given to us, if anything was to happen on that front. I think that identity is playing a bigger role in a vice presidential debate is a much more important thing today and people are paying more attention than ever. Laura: and think walz is relatable. I mean that's all you here. He's so relatable, coach walz, et cetera. But right now americans are poorer than they were back in 2020, much poorer, and everything is more expensive answers more chaos so i don't care how relatable you are, that is not a good story to have to refute. No, it's not. He's a fake and a phony and i think the country will see that tonight. He's as much a danger to this country as he is an embarrassment to the state of minnesota the way he's been acting on the campaign trail. It all comes off as bizarre and strange and weird because none of it is genuine and authentic. I think the country is going to see that tonight and i think j. D. Vance is going to expose that side of walz, that's what i'm looking forward to seeing. Laura: will he do that strange bowing motion? that's the strangest thing i've ever seen from an american candidate for national office. Panel, thank you. That's it for us tonight. Stay with fox all night long for coverage, you can watch the debate right here. Jesse watters takes it from here and i will be on later on with the panel. ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪