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White house pressured the platform to Censor Americans and he says he regrets caving to those demands. Good morning im dana perino. Bill is off today. Good morning, bret. Good to see you. Bret im bret baier and this is americas newsroom. Zuckerberg making that admission in a letter to chairman jim jordan saying the white house pushed facebook to take down posts that included Covid Misinformation even ones defined as humor or satire. Dana when meta denied one of those requests the administration grew frustrated. Back in 2020 when jen psaki was the Press Secretary and said facebook needed to be stronger on policing content. Has facebook been as proactive as the white house would like in terms of its response . I think as i noted yesterday, phil, there is more there are more steps that everyone can take. Facebook responded yesterday after the Press Briefing saying that they removed 18 million pieces of Covid Misinformation. So does the white house find that sufficient . Clearly not because were talking about additional steps that should be taken. Bret Griff Jenkins has more from washington. Good morning, griff. It is not every day that one of the most powerful ceos in the world says we were wrong. Lets get right to that letter. Zuckerberg writes this. In 2021 senior officials from the Biden Administration including the white house repeatedly pressured our teams for months to censor certain covid19 content including humor and satire and expressed a lot of frustration with our teams when we didnt agree. I believe the government pressure was wrong and i regret that we were not more outspoken about it. Zuckerberg also admits in the letter his company was wrong when they demoted the Hunter Biden Laptop Story. Republican representative laura lee, a member of the Judiciary Committee had this to say this morning. To see mr. Zuckerberg acknowledging this is really important. It shows the lengths that the Biden Administration went to try to shut this information down. And the other thing that he mentions in this letter thats really critical is an acknowledgement that the Hunter Biden Laptop Story was suppressed. The white house is responding issuing this statement saying when confronted with the deadly pandemic this information encouraged responsible actions to protect Public Health and safety. Our position has been clear and consistent. We believe Tech Companies and other private actors should take into accounts the effect theirs actions have on the American People while making independent choices about the information they present. Finally gone, too, are the socalled zucker bucks. He says he will refrain from making political donations this election, bret. Bret thank you. Dana Michael Shonn Berger and last year testified before congress on the free speech and governments involvement in social media censorship. From april 13, 2021. Facebook to the white house. Making sure you also received this message. We want to get ahead of this but make sure were amplifying the right messages. April 22nd the same year. From the white house to facebook, were excited to continue partnering with you on this work. We speak with other platforms on a semi regular basis. We would love to get into this habit with you. Perhaps bi weekly and that certainly did happen. Now Mark Zuckerberg saying that they were they would do things differently in the future. Do you think thats so . I hope so. Good to be with you. I think its a huge step forward. It provides some closure to an ugly part of americas history, the last several years we saw the Biden Administration behaving inappropriately. Big kudos to congressman jim jordan who has been steadfast in pursuing this issue. One thing that facebook did is they ended up throttling a lot of news. What you were describing there is a very intensive effort by the white house, we also saw it by department of homeland security, a sweeping effort covering multiple agencies, covering many social Media Companies, its good to see it fine le being out there and acknowledged. Dismissed for many years as conspiracy theories. Also mentioned in there is the hunter biden laptop which facebook effectively spread misinformation on as well as censoring. It is a huge step forward. I hope that we dont see that kind of pressure from governments again. I do think the price of freedom is eternal vigilance and need to continue to keep our government and these facebook and social Media Companies accountable to not be censoring disfavored views. Bret the hunter biden part of that letter reads in part its been made clear that the reporting was not russian disinformation and in retrospect we shouldnt have demoted the story and changed our policies and processes to make sure it doesnt happen again. We no longer demote things in the u. S. While waiting for fact checkers. Then Vice President joe biden uses that in a debate and that issue about disinformation and it does change the dynamic of that story, how it is absorbed days before an election. Thats right. One thing to keep in mind that has had an impact on me when i saw the story. When you saw twitter and facebook censoring that story, the message that was sent was that there was something wrong with it. That it was inaccurate. You saw a huge abuses of power first by the f. B. I. In warning facebook and others that some russian disinformation relating to hunter biden was coming. That is a huge scandal in and of itself. You then saw the director of the c. I. A. Approve the letter from 51 former c. I. A. Directors and other top intelligence officials claiming that the laptop had all the earmarks of russian disinformation. That itself was disinformation. So yeah, you are looking really an extraordinary abuse of power by both the f. B. I. , the c. I. A. , on covid and other issues, by department of homeland security. Were still at the beginning of a reckoning here of really a panic that resulted from peoples ability to get information from sources other than a few big Media Outlets that were favorable to the Biden Administration. So i think it is a huge step forward but still more revelations to come, too. Dana and so mark zuck says he is not going to get involved in politics this year and not make political donations. I dont know if its his decision alone or advised to do it but it has had a backlash against the company for a while. Going forward he says no more . Yeah, thats right. I think it is important to remember that zuckerberg was put under huge amount of pressure both from democrats in congress but also from an ngo boycott of advertisers. Remember he originally said he wasnt going to censor even holocaust denial. He finds it appalling. He supported free speech. He reversed his position after a huge advertiser boycott against him that allowed many of these Activity Groups to take control over the Censorship Apparatus as facebook trying and did the same thing at twitter. Part of what they extracted from him was this Huge Investment in the 2020 elections that was completely inappropriate. He says it was nonpartisan. People view it as partisan. He is trying to recalibrate facebook now after having succumbed to pressure and regretted it because, of course, he faced the backlash and this really important work that congressman jordans committee did here. So yeah, i think that the lesson for all of us is just we cant really trust either the government or the social Media Companies to do the right thing on the First Amendment. It is up to the public and up to independent journalists to hold their feet to the fire, to investigate, to keep them accountable. This temptation to censor is so strong. It seems like such we see people having a panic around the inability to control information thanks to the internet and social media platforms. Bret This Is Maya Cull Pennsylvania for mark zuck but not from anybody else. We lost a Supreme Court case around this. Part of the problem is the Supreme Court case was filed before the facebook files, before the twitter files came out. The Supreme Court were deciding that case today given Mark Zuckerbergs statement, they may rule very differently. So yeah, im very concerned that if you see a Kamala Harris administration that they will try to restart the whole Censorship Apparatus once again and do Censorship Laundering trying to get governmentfunded ngos to do the dirty work and claim it is not covered by the First Amendment. We have to remain vigilant in protecting our First Amendment rights. Bret thank you so much. Dana great to have you this morning. Great to be with you. Dana one of president bidens immigration programs screeching to a halt. The plan had allowed a pathway to citizenship for undocumented immigrants married to american citizens. Federal judge now issuing a temporary block of the policy and is ordering the government to stop granting parole under the program. This comes after 16 republicanled states filed a lawsuit against the executive order. The Biden Administration hitting the suit as baseless. Well keep an eye on it for you. Bret meanwhile as Terror Suspects continue crossing into the u. S. , customs and Border Protection is denying a Fox News Freedom Of Information Act request and appeal. For more information on exactly where they are coming from and what countries. Chief correspondent Jonathan Hunt is live with details on this. Good morning, jonathan. Customs and Border Protection says this is simply about National Security and to reveal details of those on Terror Watch List crossing the border would endanger ask security. We asked for the nationalities to see where the potential terrorists are coming from. According to Border Patrol figures 422 potential terrorists have been encountered at our borders so far this year. The majority of those, 283 at our northern border. That total by the way is about twice the number encountered in 2020. But in denying our request for information on those apprehended, cbp wrote a release of This Informatiod Reveal Cbp Investigative Techniques used to apprehending and processing terrorists. Such a release would enable potential violators to Design Strategies to circumvent the Border Security techniques developed and employed by cbp in its mission to secure the border and enforce Immigration Laws by allowing potential violators to better prepare themselves to evade and exploit u. S. Immigration and other laws. In what would appear to be an admission there are indeed weaknesses on the border cbp also said the disclosure of the nationalities of known suspected terrorists that were apprehended by cbp as opposed to not apprehended could signal any vulnerabilities in cbps Law Enforcement efforts of the u. S. Borders or shortcomings within the u. S. Governments National Security mission. The bottom line here, bret, from the cbp is that if the information is released, they say, bad actors could reverse engineer Counter Measures to avoid detection thus making it easier for potential terrorists to enter the country. Bret well keep pressing. Jonathan, thanks. [shouting and chanting] dana that wasnt last spring it was yesterday. Antiisrael vandals defaced property on campus before most classes even start, bret. Bret overseas israeli leaders warning the fighting on the northern border is not sustainable but it may be just the beginning of an allout middle east war. Plus. Dana bipartisan lawmakers getting a firsthand look into the assassination attempt investigation. Major players in the case are stonewalling the task force from any answers. Well be right back. Why in the world would you let former President Trump come out and stand at that podium . It wasnt like people didnt know it. They did know it. I want to know who was the one that made the decision and who was the one that was quarterbacking it. Youll find them in cities, towns and suburbs all across america. Millions of americans who have Medicare And Medicaid but may be missing benefits they could really use. Extra benefits they may be eligible to receive at no extra cost. And if you have Medicare And Medicaid, you may be able to get extra benefits, too, through a humana Medicare Advantage dualeligible Special Needs plan. Call now to see if theres a plan in your area and to see if you qualify. All of these plans include doctor, hospital and Prescription Drug coverage. 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Bret Explosions Erupting in the heaviest exchange of fire between israel and hezbollah in months escalating fears of an allout middle east war with the Israeli Defense minister warning quote, iran raise aggression has reached an all time high. To counter this we must Work Together to achieve the project groundbreaking capabilities. Project groundbreaking capabilities in all arenas. We have a manager of the washington institute. Former National Security senior director for middle east affairs. Michael, thank you for being here. I want to start with the hostage rescue. The first live rescue from a tunnel, which is extremely complex. Pretty amazing. It is totally amazing. Goodness knows what this fellow went through 320 some days in captivity. But the fact that israel continues to try to get them out and will continue to try to get the dozens more who are still held by hamas out i think speaks to the fact that there is a clear difference here between israel and hamas. Hamas Civilian Casualties are part of the strategy. For israel every one of those hostage lives in precious and admirable to see them making the efforts. Bret chairman of joint chiefs said how iran responds will dictate how israel responds which will dictate whether there is going to be a broader conflict or not and do the others go off and do things on their own because they arent satisfied, the houthis in particular. Where do you think this is . Iran promised this retaliation for many, many days now. We havent seen it. Thats right. Iran and hezbollah in lebanon promised retaliation against israel. Reality is neither one of them really wants to fight a war against israel. They are aware israel is strong and the u. S. Is backing israel. The Biden Administration has sent serious fire power to the middle east. So while it looked to us who were watching here like israel scored a significant victory over hezbollah recently, hezbollah itself seemed pretty quick to try to claim victory and say everything israel is saying is false. And then deescalate and move on and say weve retaliated. It tells you a lot about the motivations of hezbollah and iran. Iran didnt get involved. Bret theyve been using proxies, the houthis going after oil tankers. You dont see a lot of environmentalists up in arms of the spill that comes from that. The houthis are an unknown factor. They do a lot of things on behalf of iran. They have been brazen. I think to some extent the tail wagging the dog. Iran has been led by the nose by the houthis who have, i think, discovered to their surprise that they can shut down shipping in the red sea. They can target both commercial and navy vessels without serious repercussions. I think they probably look at the past several months of conflict with the u. S. And others and believe them come out on top. Theyve contended with powerful nation either and the red sea is shut down. The u. S. Havent accomplished much of anything there. Bret Foreign Policy is part of the election. The Trump Administration said they had a boot on the neck of iran and felt they were influencing irans ability to fund terrorist groups. And there is criticism of the Biden Administration. Where does that stand . Could the administration be doing more to pressure iran in this thing thats happening now . Were not pushing pressure or imposing tomorrow costs on iran for backing what is happen. It is out of fear that if we put more pressure on them, then well have another middle east war or Something Like that. We can take a lesson from israel who showed us you can militarily preempt your adversaries. It doesnt automatically lead to escalation. It can lead those adversaries to back down in the face of what is really overwhelming american and Israeli Military superiority. Bret michael. Thank you. Dana great guest to have there. Thank you, michael. [shouting and chanting] dana so back to school, back to protests. Antiisrael student protests disrupting cornells first day of classes. Activists shattered the glass door of a University Building spray painted israel bombs, cornell pays as well as blood is on your hands. The student vowed to escalate the protest. University officials are investigating and may pursue criminal charges and parents who send their kids there are not happy. Bret Vice President Kamala Harris certainly gets a lot of buzz but is there anything to back all of that up . Why questions over her lack of Policy Specifics are only growing. I thought i was sleeping ok. But i was waking up so tired. Then i tried new zzzquil sleep nasal strips. Their four point lift design opens my nose for maximum air flow. So, i breathe better. And we both sleep better. And stay married. Can neuriva support your brain health . 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And a lack of Details Criticism her campaign relies on vibes more than substance. Peter doocy live we white house. It is vibes and generalities and things that cant happen unless harris is elected. Democrats keep the senate and flit the house like new homes and help with down payments. Building 3 million new homes and rentals. We should be doing everything we can to make it more affordable to buy a home, not less. The campaigns newest spokesman insists the key part of their strategy is to come across as the most optimistic. A candidate who has an optimistic patriotic new way forward for this country that puts peoples money back in their pockets. Helps them get affordable housing. The things that people actually care about. That language is so generic it could apply to any candidate, including the one who dropped out. President biden who remains on vacation and helping harris remains unclear now. I know our president , joe biden, is looking forward to the difference he can make in the remaining months. Im optimistic given our recent conversations how he sees the campaign and the months ahead. Vice president harris and her team are showing their hand about which Battleground State is most important to their strategy outside of the blue wall. She is visiting one swing state for two days this week, it is georgia. Dana. Dana lets go. What do they call them down there . The bulldogs or something. I think so. We have to thank peter and go to bret. Im out of my depth. Hemmer is not here and im by myself in the studio, ben didnt say anything. Bret lets bring in karl rove. You know the georgia bulldogs. Listen, democratic strategists to fox news digital are warning to the harris polling and media silence says this. If the Polling Errors are anywhere close to what they were in 2016 and 2020, then trump is in the lead right now. The idea that harris doesnt have to specify policy or go before the news media is a strategy born of conceit and foolhardiness and ultimately backfire. What do you make of that . Well, i think they are absolutely right. She needs to be more specific. Lets not be critical of her by saying she has to have a Democrat Congress and a Democrat Senate in order to get these things done. The same can be said for donald trump. He has to have Republican Senate and Republican House to get everything done. But people want to know where you are coming from and they want to know enough about the specifics to get their hands around it. The other point about polling, if possible lets talk about that a little bit. I think lets put it in perspective. On this day in 2020, joe biden was up 7. 1 above donald trump in the Real Clear Politics Average and at this point in 2016 Hillary Clinton was up 6. 3. As you remember, the election came down to a handful of votes in a handful of states. And today in the Real Clear Politics Average, harris is up over trump by 1. 5 in the rcp average and 3. 5 in the 538. Com. So she is ahead in both averages, but she is nowhere near ahead by the numbers that both biden and clinton were. As we know, clinton lost and biden won by 42,000 votes in three states. To complicate it further, these are National Numbers were talking about. Weve got a number of polls eight to ten polls that make up these ares but how is she doing and how is he doing in the Battleground States, the six or seven Battleground States . We have a few polls in several states but certainly dont have six or seven or eight polls that would give us an average and therefore give us a better idea of where they actually are. Dana the other thing we dont have is a interview or press conference. Although i have a theory. I believe that the interviews probably is already done and shown this weekend and i think that this nonsense that her team is asking the reporters on the plane who she should do an interview with, think is all a head fake by them and that well see that this weekend. Bret wow. Dana i also think that she wants people to just believe that anything they want to about her because without having to be pinned down it doesnt matter. Watch tom cotton with jonathan carl. Watch this and see all the different issues that come up. President trump is going to draw a sharp contrast with Kamala Harris who is supported things like decriminalizing illegal immigration or giving Taxpayer Funded Health Insurance to illegal aliens or taking away Health Insurance on the job for 170 million americans. That is not her position now. How do you know thats not her position . She says she no longer. She has not said that. She has not said that. Maybe anonymous aides on a Friday Night Have said that. Dana it is fair if she hasnt explained them herself you have to believe what she said before is the actual position. What do you think . She has to if these really are new positions she has to come out and explain them. This is interesting. Her campaign wants to have the conversation be about this because it does allow the dominant media to come in and say she no longer holds those opinions. There by getting that information out. But also were talking about something that is not central to the campaign. At the end of the day, she will have to say where she is. In a debate she knows she will get hit by donald trump over you said you were for medicare for all and abolition of private Health Insurance. She says my mind is changed. If she has a good explanation why the American People might say i want politicians not stuck in a hard position. I think this may be deliberate on her part to chew up time. She wants to make the clock her friend and to the degree we arent talking about inflation or illegal immigration or the state of the economy or americas position in the world. If we talking about the side issue when will she have an interview and changed her mind on some of the issues is to her advantage. Bret i know when you have different colored markers on the white board it is very important. It was a big day. I could have gone for a third one. Dana next week bring it back. Thank you. Jim garrity of National Review is my guest on this weeks podcast. Scan the qr code on the screen and listen right away. Its clear what the buildings are, whats in the area, and what needs to be secured. So it really underscores just how inexplicable this Security Failure was that this was allowed to happen. Dana Lawmakers Accusing The Feds of Stonewalling On The Trump Shooting Investigation and what they are threatening to do about that. 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It is unacceptable. First of all, where does the buck stop . Who is ultimately responsible for what happened here . Whats impressive to me is the proximity of everything here particularly the position of the shooter and the position of the president. Seeing the proximity of the buildings reminds me how outrageous it was the former director of Secret Service did not come here. Dana members of the Assassination Attempt Task Force touring the fairgrounds where a gunman shot former President Trump. Congressman mike kelly republican of pennsylvania is here. It seems like you have an incredible amount of goodwill and bipartisan cooperation. Did you learn anything yesterday you hadnt heard so far . Thank you. One of the things was the proximity. All the members saying the same thing. It was so close. It was so close. Then the next question becomes well, if it was that close or that many people aware of somebody on a roof with a gun and with a range finder, the question then comes down to why in the world did we leave President Trump on the platform . There was enough warning ahead of time. But the other thing i want to highlight, there were five Law Enforcement teams from the area, from butler, beaver, they have been greatly wronged by this. You all know we live in small towns. You cant go to a shop or church and say you guys screwed up. You almost got President Trump killed. The bad part of this whole thing is this fact you cant piece it together and say i understand how this happened when the members were there yesterday, they are on the ground, they see where the shooter was. On the roof and see where the president was when the shot was taken. This wasnt local Law Enforcement. There was something much deeper that went on. I guess people say it was i dont know inept. On that day on july 13th we were aware of something ahead of time. The president should have never been on that platform. Bret i want to play this sound bite from the acting secret Service Director ronald rowe in testimony at the end of july. I went to the roof of the agr building where the assailant fired shots and laid in a prone position to evaluate his line of sight. What i saw made me ashamed. As a career Law Enforcement officer and 25 year veteran with the Secret Service, i cannot defend why that roof was not better secured. Bret my question, congressman, everybody says that how close it is, the proximity, it should never have happened but there is a frustration that maybe the f. B. I. And Secret Service are dragging their feet here and are we ever going to get really answers to the questions that you all are seeking . Yeah well, i do believe the American People can handle the truth and well get the truth for them. Too often in the past nobody has come completely clean with what happened. I do want to make sure our people who are watching us understand, there is something that happened that day. The preparation for that event was it too casual . I dont understand when you have the mostly let groups of Law Enforcement people in the world whose job is to protect that candidate, how could we have failed so obviously failed where even people walking by said there is somebody on the roof . Why arent we responding to that . I think what it comes down to there is a great loss of faith and trust and confidence in the way our government is being run and every member of this task force, we dont identify ourselves as republican or democrat. We identify ourselves as 13 americans who are going to get the answers for the American People, give it to them straight and honest. I dont care how hard it is to listen to. We have to understand we can never allow this to happen again and it is the preparation for anything that is the key to a successful ending. The preparation in this case was very light, not deep enough and it wasnt coordinated. Dana thank you for being on with us today. Well continue to wait for those answers and i know you have a December 13th deadline. You are determined to meet it. Thank you. Thanks so much. Thank you. Bret california pushing home loans for Illegal Immigrants. How much the subsidy could cost taxpayers in the blue state. Plus this may be our favorite story in the day. A jack uzi cover no challenge for a bear. The bear wanted to take a leisurely bath. Well bring you that. Are you satisfied with the results you get from expensive Nutritional Supplements that dont contain more than 12 minerals . You cant get much benefit from 8 to 10 minerals when your body needs at least 60 minerals to be healthy. Now, try immuno 150 with its 70 minerals and 80 other nutrients. 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California pushing to expand a taxpayerfunded program on homeownership. Instead of targeting u. S. Citizens, the democraticled state is looking to give interestfree loans to Illegal Immigrants. William la jeunesse Live In Los Angeles with this. Good morning, william. Good morning, bret. This Program Makes undocumented or Illegal Migrants eligible for 150,000 in Tax Pair Subsidies to buy a home. Lawmakers created this program for u. S. Citizens and legal residents could afford to live here. But last week democrats changed the law to say an applicant who meets requirements for a Loan Purchase Program shall not be disqualified by the agency solely based on the applicants immigration status. The social and economic benefits of homeownership should be accessible to everyone regardless of immigration status. The Program Provides firsttime buyers with a 0 Interest Loan up to 20 of a homes purchase price. Thats about 150,000 cash up front for down payment or closing costs. This year the 255 Million Program sold out in 11 hours. So they used a lottery, 18,000 people applying for 2,000 spots. The states is repaid when the home is sold plus a small percentage of any aappreciation. The bill is sponsored by a Prominent Latino Rights group with close ties to president harris. What the rest of America Needs to be worried about is the Kamala Harris Walz Administration taking these Crazy California Ideas and nationalizing. The country cant afford to buy Illegal Immigrants homes. Supporters say anyone here with a taxpayer i. D. Number legal or not should be eligible. But critics say listen, u. S. Supported taxpayer funded programs are for u. S. Citizens who have paid into and lived here their entire life. Governor newsom is likely to get the bill as it should pass the legislature this week. We dont know what he is going to do. Bret, back to you. Bret well follow that. Dana jim desmond from the san diego board of supervisors. What do you think Governor Newsom will do if he gets this bill this week . This is typical of what the democrats do there. They have terrible policies but end up giving things away to win people over. The state is already 60 billion in debt this year. Here we are giving money away. Its great for californians to have money to buy a house here. Basically the state has overregulated housing. So the prices just keep going up. But it should be focused just on u. S. Citizens or california taxpayers. The people that are legally here. To give it to people who are here illegally gives more innocenttive for people to cross our border and we cant afford it. Dana what keeps people coming. Free healthcare. California is a draw. They dont stay in california necessarily. California on the hook for a lot. Here is listen to your former Attorney General of california, currently the Vice President of the United States on immigration. Here is what she said before. I am in favor of saying that were not going to treat people who are undocumented crossing the border as criminal. We have to critically examine ice and its role and the work it is doing and being probably think about starting from scratch. I want to know when you become president , would you be committing to close the Immigration Detention Centers . Absolutely on day one. On day one. Dana as a County Supervisor you are closer to the constituents and you see them. What are they saying about the types of incentives including this idea of paying for new housing, home loans for Illegal Immigrants. What kind of message do you want to send back to the governor or the Vice President . Well, were a country of laws. If we start ignoring our laws, it is going to get a lot worse. California you can already steal up to 950 a day and never get any consequences for that. We have to have a border, we have we want immigration but we have to do it in a safe manner. We just cant have open borders. We had over 150,000 people dropped off in San Diego County from september of last year to june of this year dropped on our streets. Most of them young men military age here in san diego. We have to have a secure border. We want immigration but lets do it in a safe, humane manner instead of people having to come through a hole in the fence. People have come in with their heads held high through a legal system instead of just ignoring our laws. We dont want a president that will ignore our laws and not keep our citizens safe. Dana one source we found talking about the cost of all of this. 22 billion to the taxpayers of california. I dont know if in california. If you throw out the number 22 billion does it make people stop and say oh, oh well, just another 22 billion . I dont know what numbers are there. Give you the last 30 seconds. Unfortunately like i said earlier, our deficit this year, the state budget is at 60 billion. We put another 22 billion on top of that. And to just give money away to people who are not here legally, who just crossed the border. Who may not even have asylum yet and maybe they were gotaways or some that just came and arrived on boat and landed on our beaches and walked in. We will give them a 150,000 Loan Interest free . It doesnt mak