you're looking live at protesters gathering for what they're calling surround the white house for gaza. of course, you know the president isn't home at the white house. that's not important to them. the organizers say this is the red line for support of israel and they want it drawn pretty much across the country. mike emanuel in the park across the street. >> organizers are sending a message loud and clear to president biden and his campaign and writing, there are hundreds of grass roots volunteers preparing for the massive people's red line demonstration beginning at noon at the white house. join us to stand against biden and netanyahu's stand in gaza. this is the rally since october 7th. back on january 30th, some people threw bloody dolls at the gates of the white house and protesting children getting caught in the crossfire in the middle east. some people we have spoken with bused in from ohio, michigan, illinois to vent their frustration. a combination of pro palestinian and anti-war protesters from code pink teaming up to send a message to the president and policy makers here in washington there was also a massive protest here in washington back on november 6th about a month after the october 7th attack. that day protesters utilized red paint to symbolize blood on the biden administration on the walls at the white house. and they support peaceful protest, but not chaos and violence. secret service has put in additional security measures in place in anticipation of large turnouts. that includes anti-scale fencing. neil. neil: thank you for that. mike emanuel, we'll keep you posted how that goes. it's supposed to start about an hour from now. meanwhile, another concern for the biden family, hunter biden and his trial that's wrapping up very quickly with thoughts that maybe hunter himself might take the stand. david spunt has more, david. >> hunter biden's attorney a abliy lowell has a big decision, whether to put his client, the son of the president of the united states, on the stand in his own defense on monday. lowell told the judge in the case, if there was one more witness, it would be hunter biden and that would be on monday. that's a big if. on friday, emotional testimony from hunter biden's daughter naomi. hunter biden's eldest daughter, named for his sister who died as an infant this that car crash in delaware in 1972 along with hunter's mother. and beau biden and hunter were also in the car. and painted a hopeful picture in 2018 weeks before he allegedly lied on a gun form. naomi biden was uncomfortable on the stand, answering in a soft voice and well aware that her dad was addicted to drugs and told jurors, things got bad after my uncle died, referring to the late beau biden. she did see him later this month and said things were good. the first lady, jill biden, flew in late thursday from d-day events in france to sit in court on friday only turn back around to be in france for state dinner with her husband, the president. abby lowell focused heavily on the gun form on friday. he argued that different items on the form were put there different times questioning the overall form. he says there was a lot of sloppy paper work and sloppy bookkeeping by some of the store employees. if hunter biden does not testify on monday, neil, it's possible this case could go to the jury and we could have a verdict on monday. neil. neil: amazing. all right, david, thank you for that. i want to go to john yu, and great on this stuff. put yourself representing a client like hunter biden. would you have him testify, john? >> first, i'd make sure to charge him a lot of money. that's a hard job. neil: very hard job. >> abby lowell, a great trial lawyer, great criminal defense lawyer. i think that hunter, probably like donald trump, in a weird parallel probably wants to testify, too, and waive his right to self-incrimination, it's a constitutional right to be silent because it's up to the prosecution to prove beyond a reasonable doubt that hunter did it. the problem for hunter, the crime is actually just reflected on him checking off certain documents on a form. it's really a paper case, so he would want to try to provide personal testimony that he wasn't using drugs or didn't think he was addicted at the time he signed that form. the problem is, once you show up and you testify, you're under oath, prosecutors are going to go after him and cross exam to try to get him to commit to show that he's committing perjury. i don't think you want hunter biden to be on the stand talking about all the details of his life under oath where there are so many documents, so many reports out there, that already have the facts of this time in his life on the public record. neil: couldn't he deny that he didn't think he was an addict when he clearly was an addict and say, you know, technically i didn't lie. i'm not trying to justify it, but many addicts like that, no, no, i don't have a problem. >> that seems to be part of lowell's defense right now is to show, well, how he might not actually have been using drugs at this time, so maybe he thought he wasn't addicted. it doesn't sound like a very compelling defense. remember, that the prosecution played parts of hunter biden's book, read in his own voice. neil: that's right. >> about how he was addicted during this exact time period so i actually think, yeah, you could try to get hunter up there and try to get him to make that claim, but it's going to sound like perjury to a jury. just like with donald trump, i think the best course for hunter is not to appear. let it go to the jury, let it go quickly. defense has not really got a lot of strong arguments and i think they're making a plea of sympathy to the jury so why put him on if it could make his case worse. neil: all it takes is one as you often remind me. you mention the jury and i'm thinking of the trump jury in this report, that judge marchon, and he apparently wrote to prosecutors and trump's attorneys about a comment presumably on the court's facebook page, a comment appearing to be one of the cousins of the jury in this case and telling this friend, this is kind of word, that donald trump is going to be convicted. >> anything with facebook is going to be weird. neil: i raise it because it got the kerfuffle going. and in this case, some are saying, there you go, it's a mistrial. >> it wouldn't be an automatic mistrial and it could be completely made up and false. i think it's going to be another test of this judge, whether he's in over his head or can accommodate the demands of being a presidential candidate and a former president, i think that behooves him to make sure there's some kind of investigation into these kinds of comments on the web to track down to see whether they're true or not. if they're true, i think you're right, neil, you could have some kind of examination if there's a mistrial. if someone is communicating with a juror during deliberations, you want to know was that jury pressured in any way, and it doesn't sound like it, but you've got to find out the facts to find out. neil: i raise this with you, not this particular incident, but when jurors are free to go home and in a city like this, this leans slightly to the left, but they're talking to their friends, family members. obviously this comes up and they're not supposed to talk about it. i cannot imagine a situation where they wouldn't, but maybe they're all good patriots and stuck to that. if we had a case where one didn't and we don't know, that's a serious matter, isn't it? >> oh, you're exactly right, neil, about that. the jurors are basically let on their own, and only in certain circumstances you keep them sequestered. and you want to make sure they are not having their deliberations influenced, living in the community and going home, all the things that people doing, like jury was at work, and all the things that happen after work happen to those jurors. that's part of, actually, if you think about it why the jury system is an important protection of our rights, too. because we want the jurors to come from the community. we created this crazy system so that the government couldn't just stomp down on people and say you're convicted. the community has to agree. so we wanted them to be part of the community, but as you say, neil, we don't want their deliberations influenced by outside forces and you have to worry how crazy things are and who might have convicted for innocence or-- >> thank you, john, for coming in. john yoo, former justice. and still looking at this juror, mistrial? and too early to know where it goes, but i think of the fani willis situation in the atlanta case where that's now put that case off presumably off until after the election. stranger things have happened, what do you think? >> teflon don strikes again. of all the criminal investigations into donald trump, the manhattan case was obviously the most spurious and seemingly the most political. so, it kind of is beneficial to trump that of all the cases that could result in a conviction before the election, for it to be this manhattan one. it's very lucky of him and especially now it seems like there's a chance that this could be turned over, not just on appeal, but just on the basis of this facebook comment. look, what alvin bragg did was indeed unprecedented, right. no state prosecutor ever, in any state, in the history of the country has used federal election law as a predicate or direct crime to convict in a state court. and trump was unfortunately on the firing line of this, but do voters really care about this trial. versus let's say if the january 6th trials were the first ones to occur or even the federal documents trial where it's less emotional, but at least the evidence is a lot more clear as opposed to this decade old payment over an alleged one night stand from almost 20 years ago. so, trump is somewhat lucky not just in the fact that this trial wasn't very well done. even though there's a conviction, it will not be seen legitimate not just in the eyes of supporters, but probably independents who understand the legal sewerous-- sper y spuriousness of this. and he may ride this out as teflon don toss. neil: as the defense is supporting, and whether this is-- they just dislike joe biden so much or his policies, and the sheer amount of money that donald trump is raising, tens of millions. $12 million in the latest foray out west, but also, david sach's, the investors, not committing to anyone, he committed to donald trump saying what joe biden is doing is far worse and more worrisome, echoes from what you're hearing from a lot of silicon valley, liberal types, not across the board, but a lot holding back and coming out now and saying, all right, this is the guy because we don't like the guy who is presently in there. how do you see this playing out this summer and the money raising, and certainly in the political commitment front? >> donald trump's obviously won an election before being massively outspent by his opponent. in 2016 hillary clinton had a lot more money than he did and he managed to win. you see a lot of people openly defecting. and for a while there was the chilling effect of the silicon valley elite, and the financial elite and distanced themselves from trump. that's in the background. and the focus is not just for invests terrified by the movement in the bond markets now, the fact the entire stock market is held up by ai boom and specifically nvidia and also the foreign policy element. you're seeing what's happening in israel, happening in ukraine and david sach's notably, it's one of his top issues. they know that trump may be a chaotic guy, but under his presidency, the world was a lot less chaotic itself. neil: they like the money and they want to continue to make money. very good talking to you again. and in the meantime we have been telling you about the border and how the border 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them be processed by border patrol from countries like mauritania, india, china, turkey, vietnam. we were talking with some of them this group of about 40 people, men and women arrived shortly before sunrise, as we see so often. border patrol processes them, removes their shoe laces so they can't run or harm themselves or others. now, border patrol tells me that this area has been a hot spot for about three years now largely because there are gaping holes in the border wall here so migrants know this is an area they can freely cross. you may recall the viral video from this area where migrants just wrap around the corner of the border wall here and now there's some concertina wire and it's not stopping them from crossing here and going right into the san diego area, neil. neil: right, matt, thank you for that. and from that development, again, this is across the country and not just on that texas border and we keep following that and stressing that. it's bigger than that area. in the meantime, this is bigger than just dealing with migrants, for a lot of cities and stats grappling with this problem, it's all about, well, just handing out goodies for the same people who shouldn't be here. madison has more. >> neil, cities and states are spending billions of dollars to accommodate the migrants that are already here. just take a look at new york city. new york city is expected to spend $2.7 billion in fiscal year 2024 for migrant services and includes things like housing, health care, education, and food. also, programs like the one that provides pre-paid debit cards to migrants. that costing taxpayers $53 million alone. in chicago, the city has spent $370 million in taxpayer money on migrant services since 2022. denver has al evaluated more than $70 million on the migrant response. in california the state legislature is considering a bill that would allow the state government to begin hiring migrants for taxpayer funded state jobs and in kansas city, missouri the mayor there tried to move migrants from new york city and denver to his city. that was shot down by the attorney general. the state saying they prioritize lawfulness and their legal residents. >> he got so much heat on that he's backed away, but it does go to show you the competition among mayors like in kansas city or st. louis, denver, who can be the most woke mayor in america. it's a real competition and taxpayers suffer. so people have had enough. they work hard, play by the rules, pay their taxes and don't want it going to illegal immigration. >> the tab is open with cities paying billions for millions of asylum seekers who have already made their way here. neil: thank you, madison in our nation's capital. you've heard about the white house protest. they're calling it, i think, surround the white house for gaza. they're expecting it to kickoff in a little over half an hour, across the street at lafayette park. we'll keep you posted on that. the president isn't home, he's half a 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>> if you look state by state. the numbers tend to be different. if you look at washington, i believe it was "the washington post," they had a poll specifically for d.c. showing that 96% of people here believe that crime is a very serious issue and when you look at just the pure data, i'm reminded of something that jeff-- griff jenkins, i'm sorry, our very own colleague, griff jenkins, reporting he did on matt graves, the united states attorney for this area, assigned to prosecute local crime. in the last two years, this individual has declined, dropped over 2200, 2200 offenses over gun cases and declined to prosecute 33% of arrests on felony gun possession and you wonder why people think that crime is such an issue here or the carjackings or many other things. when you take his record and you look across the country in places like chicago, with kim fox, or in l.a., or philadelphia. there are a lot of cases they're not prosecutors and you wonder why we have individuals or residents that are so demoralized and afraid to go out of their homes or our police departments that are demoralized because they know they can arrest someone and they're out committing crimes the very next day, if not the same day. we are in a crisis in this country. i don't care what the polling is showing from a national perspective. go to the south side of chicago and ask those folks if they feel safe. go to new york, do they feel safe? many tell you know and los angeles the same thing and we've got to be honest about it. neil: i hear you, gianno. why do the constituents reelect the same type of people who would be the same way. why is that happening? >> i tell you, neil, it will be two years since my brother was murdered on june 24th and i plan on announcing something that's going to deal with that very issue on that day, june 24th. so i understand that people continue to vote for these individuals because in places like chicago, as an example, the cook county democratic party has a very strong hand in who gets elected and there's not been much funding for individuals who want to run against those soft on crime promises that many of these prosecutors make. it's a funding issue for many people to get out, get outside of the noise. so, i know there's many reasons and rationale and people do the same thing. i'm planning to disrupt that. neil: have you ever gotten closer to finding out more about what happened to your brother? >> you know, i talked to the special agent in charge of the chicago field office on a monthly basis, as you know, neil, personally. it took a lot for me to lobby to get the fbi involved including going to multiple members of congress. neil: i remember. >> asking them to sign onto a letter asking the fbi to get involved and certainly we got them involved and we're getting closer, but i don't have any details to share today that says, hey, we've arrested somebody and they're going to do this time. but i'm not stopping, neil. you know this. we've been on this issue for two years. i've not stopped, i won't stopped and i'm even more passionate about this issue than i was from the very beginning. we have to get tough on crime. there's no choice. there's absolutely no choice, otherwise we're going to continue to lose people and what i'm seeing, especially since so many of these issues impact the african-american community, is beginning to feel more and more like a genocide. you're wiping out our youth. infants are being murdered. our seniors are being murdered. there's no one that's not suffering the consequences of these policies and it must come change. i look forward to bringing some change to this conversation, neil. neil: you already have, gianno and somewhere, i have a feeling that christian knows it. >> thank you. neil: be well and be strong. >> thank you, you as well. neil: we'll have more. there are so many tina feys i could be. so i hired body doubles to help me out. splurgy tina loves a hotel near rodeo drive. oh tina! wild tina booked a farm stay to ride this horse. glenn close?! with millions of possibilities you can book whoever you want to be. that's my line! booking.com booking.yeah >> all right. just take a look at what our own peter doocy is coughing covering at the white house. and they're here to protest what they call a gaza homicide mission and beyond that. this is expected to be peaceful and kicks off in about 25 minutes. the guy they're attacking for that policy is half a world away is in paris as is our peter doocy with the latest. >> he's half a world away from that. and it's known he was going to be gone. they'll have to check the ring cam they have on the north lawn of the white house, but the president is here in the middle of a day with a lot of pomp and circumstance in paris. the president says he's a student of french history he find this, along with going to the arc de triomphe moving. and where he or president macron took any questions and briefly talked about the biggest international news of the day, the daring rescue of four israeli hostages inside gaza. >> i want to echo president macron's comments the rescuing of four hostages returned to their families in israel. we won't stop working until all the hostages come home and a cease-fire is reached. that's essential to happen. >> that was that. there was a very interesting moment though during a biden-macron coffee sit-down as biden was telling macron, who publicly complains about u.s. trade policies that he's been hearing that from china's xi as well. a big goal this week of the white house is to show europeans that president biden takes seriously the threats that risch russia poses to this continent if the u.s. and eu don't help ukraine beat back russia now. >> you know, putin is not going to stop at ukraine. it's not just ukraine, it's about much more than ukraine. all of europe will be threatened. we're not going to let that happen. >> next up, a glitzy state dinner. until then president biden has some down time at his hotel nearby, neil. neil: yeah, and i touched on it the last hour, why didn't they take questions? >> that remains unknown. there are european union elections all over this continent tomorrow and macron's party is expected to lose influence and lose some ground to more conservative lawmakers or more conservative candidates, according to the latest projections. and there's a lot that president biden doesn't want to talk about. he barely takes questions at the white house so it probably wasn't a big ask of the french host, hey, why don't you keep this to the script, on script as much as possible and we'd like to get him out of here to go put on his bow tie for the state dinner, but they just want to control the message as much as possible and they did, neil. neil: leaders can do that sort of thing, i guess. peter, thank you. great job this week. we appreciate it. jamie mccourt, former u.s. ambassador to france under donald trump. ambassador, great to have you back. how do you think this trip is going for president biden? of course, all of it around the 80th anniversary of d-day, harkening back to those brave men who stormed the beaches then. it would go on better weeks and you know, more than 70,000 would lose their lives. the prison harkening back to that, other global leaders. what do you think? >> i think we're having some audio issues with the ambassador here. we're going to try to fix that here, take a quick break here, but all of this, of course, as the president prepares to wrap that up and then the meeting with president zelenskyy of ukraine. that seems to be the one area which he and his european counterparts on the same page to help ukraine, but the president made the point that the aid is coming late, but better late than never and he blamed a lot of the opposition in this country. i believe that jamie mccourt is good now. ambassador, sorry for the audio issues, can you hear me. >> i can hear you. neil: and again-- >> i was going to say again, thanks for having me. i think there's two ways to look at it. it's obviously that the president is here celebrating the ties between our two countries. i used to always say we can never forget that france was our first investor in our country since i'm an angel investor and i love to remind people about that. neil: very good point. >> but it's a very, very touching time because there won't be too many people left as the years go on and the people who are living in france feel very, very close to the soldiers who saved their lives and their family's lives. and they tend to these graves individually. i don't know if you've ever been to normandy. neil: i have. >> and so you know how touching it is and how moving it is and no matter how much you know in advance, every time you go there, it's a reminder of how important the alliance it, how important it is for us to have our military strength soerand se have peace through strength and that's important so we can show the world that we're here to protect not only the united states, but our allies against everything that's not going on in the world that's okay with all of us. neil: and you're quite right talking about the sheer magnitude. my wife and i remember all crosses from all the countries, hill after hill, it's staggering to see and we forget to remember how long this dragged on , and huge sacrifices. but we were hugely united. anything, but today growing differences not only how to handle ukraine, but israel and the protest happening in this country outside the white house. yet another one on behalf of palestinians. and we're not quite on the same page. >> i think it's very important to remember that we came in as a last resort. we spent a lot of time appeasing everyone in the '30s as well, if only, if only. if we don't take things in our own hands and strengthen not only our military, but also our allies threatened by so many outside forces. neil: ambassador, thank you very much. good catching up with you, jamie mccourt, the former ambassador to france under one donald j. trump. in the meantime, we know about protests happening, but there's a lot of good stuff happening, not that protests aren't necessarily bad, they can get heated. i don't think they have the same reaction at saratoga hosting the belmont stakes this year. we're on top of that this day after this. ) ♪ i don't care if we ever come back ♪ ♪ that i always remember the fun we had ♪ ♪ i love fishing with dad ♪ now through june 14th save 10% on dad's favorite gift, special father's day gift cards, bass pro shops and cabela's. raising twins and as a single mother, oh my gosh, how am i going to provide for my family. i■m going to have to get two jobs. in 2012, tom was deployed to afghanistan. tom was killed by a suicide bomber. the morning i found out. our world has just been upended. in 2018 i was diagnosed with breast cancer. kind of threw a wrench in our daily life. my mother-in-law had told me about tunnel to towers. and when i found out that i was selected to have my mortgage paid off, it seemed like i had won the lottery. today, we welcome the kennedy family into their mortgage free home. having our biggest bill being taken care of by tunnel to towers, i'm able to focus on my children and my health. the timing was just incredible. with everything that i'm going through with my treatments for metastatic breast cancer. people should give to tunnel to towers because it's just an amazing organization. please contribute $11 a month. please visit t2t dot org. >> all right. the belmont stakes, you know, for years i've asked, i'd love to cover the kentucky derby or the belmont. the requirement is you have to wear a hat. your head is too big for a hat. and guess who is not going to the races, rather hurtful. and kelly has a perfectly good head and fun and funny and look at her in a hat and she's fine. kelly, this is a big day for you and the racing industry, right? >> yeah, you know, neil, i don't know if the fascinator is my look, per se. i think more of the regular hat, but today is special because it's the culmination of the triple crown, the kentucky derby, of course, we saw mystik dan take home the roses and seize the grey, and then the winning car nation and the cute banner they drape over for the winner, so sweet. horse trainers can choose not to compete in every leg of the triple crown. this year is special because mystik dan and seize the grey are still in the competition and it's the first time since 2013 two triple crown winners in the same season will face-off at the belmont. it's a four-day event and today there are six total grade one races along with another three graded stakes. and let's talk about the popular horses i've been name dropping. seize the grey is known as the people's horse owned by my race horse. that allows people like you and me to own a share in this top race horse for at little of $100. i've been speaking with seasoned horse race analysts from fox sports and there's buzz about the track for the favorite sierra leone. who knows how to win a race like this, she won the 2023 belmont stakes with arc angelo and the first female trainer to do it. >> last year, having the opportunity to steward some of our sport and teach people about our sport and maybe expose it to new people what we accomplished last year, being the first female to do it, what it's meant to them has been -- like that's been huge. >> you can see it all tonight on fox sports. post time is 6:40 here at the historic saratoga race course, which is, of course, three hours north of where it's typically held on a normal here. that would be belmont park on long island, but they will be undergoing major renovations so it will be held here, not only this year, but next year as well, neil. neil: you look terrific in that kelly, you were born for this. kelly, i'm getting nasty comments on the hat comment, maybe they could have sewn two together, and it sound like you wrote that, our floor managers. >> our viewers are nicer than that. it was the floor manager wasn't it. neil: i'm looking at her now and she's looking sheepish. we'll have more. inesses... so i wear a lot of hats. my restaurants, my tattoo shop... and i also have a non-profit. but no matter what business i'm in... my network and my tech need to keep up. thank you verizon business. 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