everyone. i'm judge jeanine pirro along with harold ford jr., jesse watters, katie pavlich, and brian kilmeade, who is here from this morning. it's 5:00 in new york city, and this is "the five." ♪ ♪ on president biden on the world stage for the d-day 80th anniversary in normandy and doing very little to dispel concerns about his diminishing the mental acuity following a bombshell "wall street journal" reported that claims he is slipg due to age. the president looking lost while getting out of the car, and later seen shuffling from event to event. social media erupting over one moment where joe awkwardly fumbles for his seat as other dignitaries remain standing. >> distinguished guests, please welcome the honorable lloyd jay aust and ii, secretary of defense of the united states of america. >> judge jeanine: meanwhile the white house is turning into a cleanup crew as they attack "the wall street journal" report. they have been urging democrats who were interviewed for the expose about perez an end know mike biden's brain drain to call the newspaper back and push bace narratives. nancy pelosi is slamming it as a "hit piece," but donald trump is saying "i told you so." >> president xi of china, putin, kim jong un, all of these leaders are at the top of their game, mentally, they are at the top of their game. and they are dealing with somebody that is not at the top of his game. you have a man that shouldn't be doing this job. he is not qualified. he's not mentally sharp enough. and i don't believe he was 20 years ago, either. >> judge jeanine: all right, katie, i'll start with you. "the wall street journal." they did this report when they knew that the president was on his way to go to normandy. was it bad timing? might they have pulled the plug on it a little bit for another week? >> katie: well, it's not up to "the wall street journal" to save the president from embarrassment before a big international trip, especially when the report had democrats and republicans talking about his decline, but i think the bigger picture of this was on display today with president joe biden in normandy, and it's not just that he is mentally declining, it's that his weakness has resulted in consequences for europe and for america and for the world. you have ukraine, which is of course, russia's invasion for the first time, a major land composition, since world war ii, and that is highlighted when you have the president here to commemorate the 80th anniversary of d-day. you also have him, you know, sending millions of dollars, hundreds of millions of dollars, to hamas in gaza when they are waging a war against israel, democracy that was established in the aftermath of world war ii. we can laugh and say he is declining and he does these things that are clear, he is maybe not sure where he is going or he has to be escorted off the stage by first lady jill biden, but the reality is that his weakness on the world stage and mental decline has had severe consequences for america and puts us at grave risk as these people around the world who are strong, who want to take advantage of that, are making their moves, and unfortunately, there will be more of them. >> judge jeanine: all right, jesse, they say they interviewed 45 people, democrats and republicans, although the only people who were willing -- whose names are mentioned -- where johnson and mccarthy, both republicans, although greg meeks, congressman from new york, barely called and said the white house that i should call you back. >> jesse: i bet the white house called every single one of those democrats to get them back on the record to say that guy is beautiful and limber. but judge, you know, the presidency, and a lot of it is ceremonial, and you do these observations, you pay respects, and that is what the public expects. you want to see presidential stature. and this guy has just shown an inability to go to that level, whether it is him checking his watch when the coffins come home or he was comatose at the maui fire event, he falls asleep at the u.n., he botched the white house christmas tree lighting, judge pirro he skipped the 9/11 ceremony and falls flat on his face at west point. it is very clear to everybody now that his walk is stiff and slow, his syntax is a disaster. it doesn't look like he hears very well and he looks lost and confused more and more and more in public. and the american people deserve better. the white house, behind the scenes, is probably working overdrive to produce the be out of this guy when they should be focused on serving the american people and every time he does an event, you are not talking about the men and women who sacrificed, you are talking about joe biden because he distracts from every event he participates in, and then you see this "wall street journal" piece and the american people fairly or unfairly they connect the physical width of the mental, and if you see someone falling in stuttering and stammering and not able to rise to the level, you think, well, is he able to make decisions for the best interests of the country? is he observing our enemies keenly? are his relationships with our key allies deteriorating? we have no idea, but that is a normal assumption and we shouldn't be having to have these concerns, we have a lot else going on. >> judge jeanine: all right, you know, harold, nancy pelosi comes out and says it is basically a hit piece, "the wall street journal" piece, and, you know, the democrats have been touting that behind the scenes, joe biden has all this energy, and yet the reporter, siobhan hughes, said the picture they painted of his being more energetic behind the scenes is really the exact same as what the public is seeing on the outside. >> harold: so good to be with everybody. i think a couple of things. i think the article, probably both sides are right, a lot of people said things in that article that were portrayed in the article and a lot of people who said things that contradict some of the things who did not get quoted, and in fact, some of them are trying to get quoted. i think that we should all accept the fact that the country does not look for -- does not look to president trump as a moral authority on marriage, and they don't look for joe biden to be an authority on physical youthfulness. so we are where we are, and we have known that now for some time. i think the speech that he gave in normandy was pretty good. i think we have reached a point, unfortunately, where i think in some of our politics has gotten so divided or divisive that we can't even objectively listen to our president on the 80th anniversary of i believe the most -- 80th anniversary of the most important battle, military battle, our nation has ever fought and thankfully won. i thought he gave a good speech. i thought there were times when president trump gave great speeches on important dates and important anniversaries for america and for that matter america's role in the world. but we are in a campaign season, at that point is not lost on me, and i know that there are probably some who because of the politics can't even listen to our president, who is our duly-elected president, on a day that is not supposed to be partisan, but a day we are supposed to be remembering and saluting and thanking those, the brave, who helped make our freedom possible. >> judge jeanine: you know, is it, brian, that we are so divided that we can't listen to president biden, or is it that president biden seems so clueless that we are just kind of trapped watching him as opposed to listening to him? >> brian: i was able to watch him. we were here, the other side of the studio this morning, and harold, you make good points. i couldn't care less personally about republican or democrat, if you run for president, i'm voting for you come i don't care what party you choose because you get the country. and you know for a strong defense, the fundamentals are there. i worry about the specifics in that story. i worry about the fact, in the speech, i liked the speech, it was fine, i have no problem bringing up ukraine. everybody around me did. there is a similarity between putin and hitler, no doubt about it. he wants the same thing. he wants to dominate europe. we have been through this before. and guess what, europe has got to respond. need more than 2% of your defense, france. poland, finland, sweden, you have the message. the other guys figured it out. israel should have been mentioned in that speech. my goodness, the guy who did "schindler's list" was staring right at you. israel should have been mentioned in that speech. when he was in those meetings and that "wall street journal" article, they brought a brush up. he's like, you know, he was a long pause, couldn't contribute to the conversation, they had to find a way to get armaments to ukraine. i want a president to say, why are the sanctions not working on these guys? how come they lost 200,000 people and they don't seem to care? what are we going to do if we can't get them munitions, how are they going to survive? he can't even run the meeting or participate, that's what bothers me. also in speaker johnson said, you have stopped energy production and natural gas, what you doing? no, i haven't. there was a study. no no, you did it. total silence. do you realize his own vote in pennsylvania, the governor of pennsylvania week ago goes, this better be a sharp pause. the guy that offered the pause doesn't even know it is paused. these are the specifics of what happened in that meeting that bother me. lest the arthritis-read and stiff walk, the confusion is disturbing, but i am more concerned i think the ripe country is running on automatic pilot and i hope it is not a bunch of 24-year-old interns. >> harold: i hope the deveined, june 27th, i hope president trump confronts him o. let's get to the very -- i only say when the president gives a speech on a day like today, however the president is, we as americans should be able to commemorate and honor those who fought -- >> brian: yeah, certainly unbelievable, right? that was unbelievable. you missed it this morning, 7:00, it was amazing. >> katie: he did forget to do it multiple times while he was in office so it is nice he showed up today. >> brian: 2022, tweeted something out late. >> judge jeanine: had to be reminded. anyway. coming up, hunter biden just got some horrible news. daddy isn't bailing him out. ♪ ♪ all these games on directv— and no satellite on the roof! think about this: blue jays, cardinals, orioles... what's missing? the andean condor? no, walnut-brain! pigeons! they'd rather name a team after socks! to be fair, we're not very athletic. ♪ ♪ >> brian: all right, the prosecution's most witness yet taking the stage in hunte hunter biden's gun trial as hisa pardon, saying in an interview with abc released in about an hour that he will accept the outcome of his sons trial and he would not pardon his son. really? that comes as hunter's sister-in-law turned ex-lover hallie biden took the stand today revealing the first son introduced her to crack during their relationship. she detailed what she discovered, the gun, inside hunter's car and threw it away in the trash can outside a grocery store. hunter trying to blame hallie for the gun residue on the bag the gun was found in. the brown bag she stopped not know my stuff the gun and was sometimes used to store drugs by hunter so what was accomplished with all of this, katie? what are we finding out? >> katie: we are finding a lot of these people are a mess and that hallie biden testified that hunter biden introduced her to crack cocaine, that is really awful, she wanted to remove drugs from a car because their daughters would take the car, he had drugs around them. i think his attorneys will probably say she is the one who put the gun inside the bags with the drugs on it so you can't say that was hunter doing that, so it's not connected. but i think they are really happy this is not a televised trial because the details are really shocking and they are flashing everything that was on the laptop onto the screens in the courtroom. some of it blurred out for the jury. so it's really the details are just horrific, and just bottom line of hunter biden dating his brother's widow in the aftermath of all of this and then introducing her to drugs is pretty gross detail if you are just a normal person watching. >> brian: i think she got married a couple days ago. >> katie: he showed up with her at the courtroom today. >> brian: and then you wonder what happened a few days before the trial started when president biden went to visit her suddenly, just thought it would be important. i think there's a couple of things that goes on there. would the 24-year-old that he was dating came out and said, i was amazed and i was confused that he would do crack, and he would be totally fine, would show no signs that he did it, so to me there might be indications he might have been doing some of these high wire deals on crack. >> jesse: might have been? absolutely, he was. i think one of the witnesses today hallie said sometimes he would have crack rocks the size of a marble, other times he would show crack rocks the size of ping-pong balls. so he had crack all the time. he was texting her, i believe, in mid-october, which was when he purchased the gun, right now i passed out, smoking crack, and any other text, yeah, i am doing a drug deal with my man, mookie, so they have him dead to rights on that and then they also have surveillance video of her picking up the gun, putting it in the dumpster, and apparently this vagrant named ed who likes to dumpster dive comes over, picks it up, hands it over to the police. hunter freaks out because it is registered to him, and then makes hallie go reported as stolen. i mean, you just look at this mess and you have to think these people are trash, and the president has a family that is dysfunctional, and he has put his son through a mess because his son had to make money for the family, and the defense is having a very hard time right now because they don't have a defense because it is so ironclad, at the prosecution been very effective in marrying the gun to the drug abuse. they are saying he needed to get the gun for personal protection because he was doing all of these shady deals and horrible neighborhoods with the dregs of society, so i don't see how this is anything other then guilty, but you never know if he gets home cooking delaware. >> brian: i always hear that abbe lowell is this great lawyer so i wanted to see who would cross. abbe lowell crossed with the gun owner, watch them check the box and he is not doing drugs feared by the wacom who buys a gun and goes yeah, i'm on drugs, that a problem? so why even have a "yes" there? having done that, you are just trying to up the sale. no, i get paid the same no matter if i upgrade the sale or not. so what are we learning from this, harold? it does look like he is dead to rights, this should have been something that never went to trial, but you are the lawyer. >> harold: i don't know. he is facing two felony counts. and he is letting the judicial system work its way, work its will. we are witnessing -- >> brian: what do you think so far? >> harold: i don't know, i've never done drugs before, i don't know what it's like to be addicted to that. i don't own a gun, so i don't -- >> jesse: don't tell people that, harold. make them think you are strapped. >> harold: i never lied on my gun application. so it is come on a level, bewildering to me to watch it because it has to be humiliating and painful because the family has known this about hunter, and he is clearly, obviously, turned a new chapter in his life, but to hear all these things, it's got to be painful. i listened earlier, can't remember what show it was on, but andy mccarthy was on earlier and he was saying how this case, if he is convicted here and on appeal how this likely could be overturned because you will basically pit the law about whether or not you can own a gun if you have some alcohol or substance challenges come against the second amendment and how absolute the second amendment is. we shall see. that won't play here. he can likely be convicted and on appeal -- it was an interesting legal theory to hear anti-proffer earlier. >> brian: did you hear andy say this earlier? the reform hunter biden still wrote the book and still did a press tour when he was, of course, he lied, clearly he lied, knows it was his, and joe biden during the debate, he lied, that leads to the question of i always hear this, why did they wait so long to bring this forward? well, when you tell a bunch of republicans that the laptop is not real, you give them power in the house, of course they are going to pursue whether the laptop is real, which leads to the gun charge all of these years later. >> judge jeanine: look, let me make this clear. i did this for 32 years, okay? this case is as clear as any case. and unless the supreme court comes down and says crack dealers and drug addicts are allowed to have guns, too, this case will be affirmed on appeal. what you've got here is a dysfunctional family. you've got a dysfunctional family where the widow of the brother of the defendant was introduced to crack cocaine. they are uploading pornographic video into some website, and she is throwing his gun away, and then he is han having her lie ad she then reports the gun was stolen. in addition to that, you are kathleen buhle, his wife, who has to check the car, his truck, to make sure there is no crack pipes and drugs in the car, because her daughter drives the truck. and then what you've got is this zoe kestan that you are referring to, says every 20 minutes the guy is doing crack appeared every 20 minutes. >> brian: she found him charming. >> judge jeanine: i'm sure he was a charmer. but this is more than letting the judicial system work. this was trying to pull the wool over the eyes of everybody. and when they got judge noriega, she said hey, wait a minute, what do you mean, this guy is going to be immune from prosecution for the rest of his life? i've never heard anything like that. justice department, have you ever done anything like this before? and they say, no, we haven't. so it is because they tried to pull a fast one on the american people, not just with this crime itself, but they tried to pull a fast one with the laptop. and this is karma coming back at them. because they tried to change the result in may, according to dutch have changed the result of an election, when antony blinken got 51 intel agents, so called -- >> brian: and mike morell. >> judge jeanine: and the whole lot of them to say this has all of the russian disinformation. all they had to do was get that laptop and say john jones, you had an email from hunter biden, do you have an email from hunter biden? yes or no? and that is why "the new york post" went with it and did publish it because they knew they were clear of any defamation claim. so this is karma coming back at the bidens. >> brian: how about leon panetta going, hey, joe, before i sign off on this, just tell me, my reputation of 50 years, is this your laptop? these are emails? it looks pretty specific. not one person picked up the phone, they just signed off on it. and by the way, when you are in the back alley, this guy was leading a hedonistic life, hanging on the rich hotel for five days, doing crack, i mean he was not suffering. >> judge jeanine: no, he was not suffering at all. >> harold: he he's an addict. >> judge jeanine: he's not being charged with being an addict. he is charged with making the choice to lie to get a gun. that he was not entitled to get. and the department of justice, in 2022, pushed for an increase in the penalties from 10 to 15 years, for people who live to get a gun. so let's not make like this isn't something that they are just prosecuting because it is him. they are not. >> brian: okay. i'm very proud of that block. i don't take credit for it but i am glad to have played a role in it. to be when you played a great role. >> brian: i'm going to stay the rest of the show. ahead, the left's attempt to throw president trump behind bars back fire? 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the country doesn't want that. and you know what, they didn't want it with hillary clinton, either. >> jesse: hillary sees chris matthews smear and says "hold my beer." comparing to d-day. thought to defend democracy on the shores of normandy. this november all we have to do is vote. kilmeade. retribution. if he uses the justice department or a local d.a.s go after democrats -- rightfully go after democrats -- do you think that's a bad move? >> brian: if there is something that needs to be investigated, do it. but i would not, i like his original analogy, kind of used it there. he says they go to the ufc fights to try to kick each other's head in at the end of it they hug it out. i go at marco rubio, ted cruz, nikki haley, eventually, and when it is over, it is over. that's what he did with hillary clinton. it's over, it's over. put an ied his first two years with the russia hoax and that investigation. but to launch a probe or investigation into something when there is nothing there, i think that is something that doesn't help the country. if you feel like something has to be investigated, if there is something behind the 50 people that signed off on that laptop that said it was real, that is one thing. but the dictator thing, jesse, specifically, for years he was not a dictator. if he was a dictator we would have no sanctuary cities, we would have 700 miles of instant welcome instead we would have to go through defense funding to get it. he was a dictator, during the pandemic, states you control it, tell me what i can get to you. he is the worst dictator ever, holding the handbook upside down if he is doing it. >> jesse: so katie, a lot of people say he should just rise s behind him, success is the best revenge but does that send the message to democrats if you don't get any revenge or retribution, they just going to keep doing this to republicans? >> katie: it's possible but he has time to get the vote of the american people and say my success will be the revenge, which i think most people can say, yes, that sounds pretty good. not going to focus their energy on retribution, going to focus on making the country better for everybody. and donald trump has a track record of letting things go. in 2016, he won the election, hillary clinton, people were chanting "lock her up" and he said nope, we are moving on, and yet they still couldn't help themselves and went after him. if you want to talk about dictatorships and compare policies, which is why the media is trying to distract away from joe biden's policies, joe biden is the one who is completely suffocating american businesses through regulation. he is the one who tried to use osha to force every worker in this country, government, nongovernment, to get a vaccine or lose your job. i talk to farmers and ranchers all the time about this climate change agenda they are pushing by force on them. they are very worried about what that means for the country and agriculture. the electric vehicle mandates they are pushing on these private companies that are losing billions of dollars every year and being forced, the taxpayers, to subsidize something people don't want to. yet you have president trump wants to come in and deregulate. he wants to grow the economy, to free people from inflation, and more. so if you want to talk about dictatorships and comparing policies, i think that biden wins that one. >> jesse: brian mentioned one. the 51 intel agents. would that be ripe for an investigation, or maybe anthony fauci, judge jeanine, or the biden family pay for play, are those legitimate targets? >> judge jeanine: look, if you have sufficient evidence that give you probable cause to investigate, look, the fact that anthony fauci, when we heard him testify this week and said, you know, i didn't come up with the 6 feet and i didn't know anything about the study, he was actually asked about the schools, and our children suffered so much because of anthony fauci. no much that that generation has lost a great deal, and little children, who are crying because they didn't want to wear a mask, well, i didn't say they had to wear a mask, and i don't even know the results of any studies about the impact on these children. you have to say to yourself, what is going on in this guy's head? he was the dictator who told us a whole that we had to do. they told all the people we were taking care of us, the truck drivers and nurses and cops, if you don't get this vaccine, we're going to fire you. you want to talk about a dictatorship, and they fired them. you want to talk of a dictatorship, talk about the fact that 2020, the tech world and the social media world collaborated to make sure nobody knew about that hunter biden laptop, that is a treasure trove of information for any prosecutor who wants to look at whether or not there is any information as to the money from china that joe said never came to his family and the money from ukraine and russia. you want to talk about connections, we've got the evidence. maybe we will go wherever the evidence takes us. but it is a democrat to stop the freedom of speech, the freedom of the press, the freedom of americans to live their lives in freedom, and at some point, i love donald trump come everybody knows i have known him for 40 years, you know, he went in there and he didn't want to go after hillary. he didn't want to go after james comey and all those people who lied in front of congress. he didn't do that because he wanted to do the right thing. so spare me this fantasy world that they are pushing that he is going to be a dictator. >> jesse: how dangerous is it, harold, for the media to accuse the republican nominee of being a dictator? >> harold: look, i don't like when all this stuff is thrown around loosely by either side. i do think that because elections are choices, and because candidates have to campaign and say what they will do or not do, i think it's fair to take people at their word. this isn't meant to be destructive or debilitating. president trump still has not accepted that he lost the 2020 race. he calls the january 6th people who have been convicted, he calls them hostages. he has said in speeches, i don't know if he will do it or not, but he said he and speech as he said he would pardon many if not all of them. i don't know if he will do those things, jesse, you know him better than i do, the judge certainly knows him better than i do but i think voters are going to process this and they are going to consider these things when they go to the polls in november. is it fair to call him a dictator if he's never been dictatorial? probably not. but is it fair to think that he might pardon january 6th people who were there on january 6th? 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[laughter] you are not on the list. that pressure, you can let it go. >> brian: someone is betting me. i don't know who is doing bad. plate close to the chest. so i would say this, but i surging is doug burgum. different personalities but they truly get along and he respects his knowledge of business. i think if he is not vp he is going to be secretary of energy. there is no question. i think the big test is those sunday shows. adverse conditions, nbc, meet the press, how they act. the guy who is best is tom cotton, second-best as is rubio, coming on strong is doug burgum. try to say he is demanding billions of dollars from the oil industry, excuse me, i was there, to margaret brennan, he didn't debate anything. and she had nothing to say. trump loves that stuff. >> katie: so, jesse, i have talked to a few people that said that in this process they are looking for someone who can take what they believe will be a successful second trump term through '28 and then when the election for president then. so who would qualify in this instance? >> jesse: that's tough. and someone who is not trump's vp might have a better shot of running as the republican nominee and taking on gavin newsom, instead of within the trump administration. chemistry, i agree, i think burgum has the best chemistry. he was there during the verdict day for two hours with don jr. and the president. they get along great. the top three, no one has drama, and that's what i like. they are all vetted, professionals. rubio might add a little to the ticket just because of the hispanic, cuban, to put that flavor, as trump-rubio, may be, bring something to the table, ideologically, vance is probably most simpatico with the america first movement. but i don't know. burgum always goes for central casting. he does look like a vice president. >> katie: he does. >> jesse: who knows? >> katie: so, judge, i thought elise stefanik movement may be interesting given new york and what the president has been doing in this state and his ideas about winning. but what do you think about the list that is becoming shorter? >> judge jeanine: well, i think, honestly, when i looked at the list i said, first of all, is anyone from the swing states, seven swing states? none of the top three are. and it's definitely one of the top three. and i think the point you were trying to make, is a real one, and that is that donald trump wants someone who will continue his legacy, who will continue to carry the torch, and i think that that person has an opportunity, jesse, during those four years, to portray himself as presidential. whomever it is, doesn't matter, all of them are better than kamala, but that's another issue. trump actually got more hispanic votes in florida than rubio did. and, you know, j.d. vance is good, but i really think it is burgum, i do. i met him several times. there is something about him that he just seems like a straight shooter. >> brian: you think a decision already? >> judge jeanine: do i? i don't know. >> katie: probably getting close. herald, the contrast between the top three choices on the current price president? >> harold: ordinarily vp choices are great for the first 24 hours. you get a focus on the campaign, intense focus, you focus on the most positive things about the person who has chosen, their family, their accomplishments in life. the most positive and favorable light is shined on that person in the campaign. and then it kind of fades. into the background. i think this election, to issues that really are not always important for presidential races, one is a vp choice and twos foreign policy, will emerge as more important issues, and you have to think about the kinds of challenges we are facing around the world, security, what is happening in the middle east, all between and around. i was a nominee for president, and i had to pick my vp nominee, and a lot of those things would be circulating in my mind. i mean, i don't know doug burgum. i've met marco rubio a few times. i've never met j.d. vance. i'm surprised there's only one woman on the list. i think when you look at the issues that populate the voters minds, border security, abortion, the economy, may be burgum because he is a businessperson, but he's not going to call me and asked me, he didn't tell me, i knew i am not on the list so i am sure -- >> katie: well, you are not a republican, so maybe for joe biden. >> harold: i think it is interesting. those names, those would not have been names i would have put at the top of his list for weeks ago or six weeks ago, and it's interesting that he is settlinge right, these are the three he has settled on. >> brian: no tulsi, either. >> jesse: who is the name you're scared of? >> harold: emma waters. a [laughter] >> judge jeanine: not her! >> katie: up next to him honoring the incredible heroes of d-day on this 80th anniversary. ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ >> harold: 80 years ago today, heroes stormed the beaches of normandy. to liberate the world from nazi tierney. today leaders and allies of gnomic veterans of allied nations gathering in france to honor those who fought, won, and died on d-day. katie, i think you of all of us at the table, the person closest to this at the moment, just got back, want to share a story or two? >> katie: so last year i had the honor of going to normandy for the 79th anniversary of d-day on their i am standing on the beach with -- who was actually in the pacific, but also a sergeant who came in at utah beach 80 years ago. today. and it was just overwhelming to be with these heroes and to be around them and hear their stories about what they accomplished, to beat back the nazis and to take back europe and to walk them through these scenes where the french people there get dressed up as the american military during world war ii. you have kids greeting them when they landed there, with the american flag. and most importantly going through these normandy towns of thousands of people lining the streets, crying, sobbing in their french accents and crying out and saying, thank you for my liberty. and they were treated like rock stars. they were so grateful for what they did. they never forget, and it's clear, at least in normandy, and i hope they do it here, that they are passing down the lessons of what it meant to sacrifice and the big things they had to do to make sure that hitler did not win. >> harold: judge, your thoughts? >> judge jeanine: my grandfather was one of the ones who stormed the beaches at normandy, and he survived and came home, and he talked about what it was like and how proud he was. my father was also on the ship to nagasaki and saw the atom bomb, he saw the plume. look, they were part of the greatest generation. and what we did over there is, you know, beyond -- beyond the pale. i mean, we saved so many people. it took us a while, but we got there and we did it. >> harold: brian, you are talking about this earlier, the president's speech and ukraine and israel come up with the politics aside, but are there parallels come in your mind, you said you thought between ukraine and what we are facing 80 years ago? >> brian: did we learn anything watching what hitler did? wheel at paris getting dominated and become a nazi country and still had to bomb japan to get involved. we don't want these wars but have to be strong to prevent these wars. they secured a couple days, next thing you know paris was liberated, in two months hitler was dead, in one year. that is what happens when america. >> harold: prime time, your thoughts about this moment and what it means going forward as we think about our defenses and how we spend on defense? >> jesse: it means everything. it was the largest amphibious invasion in military history on the germans never even saw it coming. wasn't even in theater. we had to rush back to fight a counteroffensive that didn't stick. and we were amassing all of these men write in southern england. they have the whole channel mind and they thought we were going north but we went to normandy instead, put the 82nd on the 101st right over top with the parachutes, and then we just lit up all of the defenses that the germans had lined up all along the coastline, and in the tanks rolled in, and the raft rolled in. we lost 200,000 men, and then we joined forces, pushed down, and liberated paris in about two months. it was an amazing god bless america. one more thing is up next when i have customers come in and ask for something for memory, i recommend prevagen. number one, because it's safe and effective. does not require a prescription. and i've been taking it quite a while myself and i know it works. and i love it when the customers come back in and tell me, "david, that really works so good for me." makes my day. prevagen. at stores everywhere without a prescription. let's get started. bill, where's your mask? 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>> they are going to send me to jail. under the jail. on top of the jail. around the jail. i'm going to jail. >> jesse: there you go. >> judge jeanine: okay. check out this scary moment, folks when a giraffe on a w wildlife tour. quickly startled by the father's yell. the incident was an accident, so the giraffe said. and the giraffe was allegedly trying to grab a bag of food from the toddler. but missed. that's it for us. we will see you at the beach. >> bret: at the beach. >> judge jeanine: have great night.