Fox news alert. We begin with continuing moment by moment coverage of day eight of former President Trumps New York Criminal Trial. This is the faulkner focus. Hello. Happy friday. We have a lot of news packed in for you this hour. Court got underway last hour. A loss hat gone on so far. David pecker ends how he started on the witness stand. Right now trumps Team Continues their Cross Examination. Pecker to remind you is the former ceo of american media. His testimony this week mostly focusing on a quote, catch and kill scheme to buy stories about his then friend donald trump without publishing them effectively keeping them hidden. Atactic he used for other celebrities, too. Separately braggs team accused former President Trump of violating his gag order four more times. Thats in addition to the ten claims already made, by the way. Prosecutors meantime want the judge to fine trump and hold him in contempt for every one of those. A hearing on the gag order is set for thursday, may two, trump speaking this morning before entering the courtroom. Were doing very well in this trial. Everybody knows it. Yesterday was a big day. Yesterday went very well in this courthouse. It should be over. The case is over. You heard what was said and the case should be over. But you will have to make that determination. I think we have a judge that will never allow this case to be over. He is highly conflicted. The most highly conflicted judge ive ever seen. Julie our Expert Legal Panel is standing by. First well get right to fox news Senior Correspondent eric shawn following this outside the New York State Supreme Court house in Lower Manhattan. The Prosecution Case rests on one allegation, that former President Trump wanted to buy Karen Mcdougals story and keep it hidden so it wouldnt hurt his president ial campaign. It turns out thats not what the president wanted, that then candidate trump did not want to buy Karen Mcdougals story is what david pecker testified. He is on stand for a fourth day. He is trumps friend and former publisher of the National Enquirer describing through the testimony you he and cohen arranged to pay store for east that could hurt trump. He bought the rights to Karen Mcdougals claim that she had had a 10month long affair with trump. He also testified that trump did not want that purchase to go through. Thats a direct conflict with and contradiction of alvin braggs whole theory that trump orchestrated the alleged Election Interference Scheme to help his president ial prospects. Pecker told the jury he told trump that mcdougals story should be taken off the market. He said that trump told him he doesnt buy stories because trump told him they always get out. Pecker then pushed trump so trump said he would talk to Michael Cohen. There was no direct order from trump to pecker to buy the story and no demand the shut mcdougal up to help protect trumps campaign. Pecker said in a later phone call he told him it was mcdougal who did not want her story to come out and signed the contract to restart her career to let her write articles and appear in peckers other publications and how ami, America Media incorporated did just that. They published help tip coll amends and Exercise Columns and put her on the cover of mens journal to try to chip away at the Prosecution Theory that the 150 thousand was only a Hush Money Payment. In this way pecker is showing to the jury that there was actually a payment and that mcdougal actually performed legitimate services for the company and it was not only had nothing to do with any type of Hush Money Payment as we get some spectators yelling here, as is their want in front of court sometimes. Julie thank you so much, eric shawn. Legal panel is here to break it down as it happens for us. Andrew cherkasky, former federal prosecutor, leo terrell, attorney and fox news contributor, Andy Mccarthy former assistance u. S. Attorney and fox news contributor, and last but not least Phil Holloway, former assistant district attorney. Thank you for talking to us today. Andy, i will start with you. Yesterday some interesting testimony coming from david pecker, former National Enquirer publisher who admitted the goal was the try to prevent the story with from interfering with the trump campaign. He said he was concerned the payment could how damming is that statement for trumps team not at all. Two things. It is not illegal to bury compromised or politicallydamaging information. There is nothing criminal about that. Nondisclosures agreements are a staple of civil litigation in the United States. Civil settlements. And bragg does not have the authority to enforce federal Campaign Finance law. The federal agencies that do have that authority investigated this thoroughly and decided not to prosecute trump. And the only way that bragg can make this into a federal case, so to speak, is to manipulate the law or distort it so that it says what he wants it to say rather than what it actually says. So i just dont really see it as damaging. Julie trumps attorney grilled pecker about his long relationship with trump, which was basically his attempt at showing how he had helped his friend long before the president ial election and spoke how he gave trump a headsup about a negative story before all of this about his wife marl yeah maples. Can the defense prove it is a friend helping a case, not a case of violation of Campaign Finance law . I think the defense will use mr. Peckers testimony to establish mr. Trump had purposes other than electionrelated purposes to kill negative store eaves about him. He is a celebrity in the public eye. The reputation is outrageously important and how about with his family and wife. Now he is sitting on melanias birthday having those stories come forward. He wanted the stories killed. They are Extortionist Efforts in order to gather money to instead of putting forward these false stories. He wasnt in support of the Karen Mcdougal scenario he seems julie a headline reads alvin] wants the 2016 election on trial. In opening remarks to the jury, prosecutor argued that trump is guilty of falsifying Business Records with the intent to conceal an illegal conspiracy to undermine the integrity of a president ial election. Your thoughts. That statement will come back, julie, and haunt the prosecution. They are unable to prove it. We have been in this trial for four days and my distinguished colleagues on this panel, there is no crime. The one thing a prosecutor has to make sure is not exposed by the defense. When the defense made reference to other celebrities doing the exact same thing you lose credibility with the jury. I had the privilege to talk to President Trump this morning. He is in good spirits. The pecker Cross Examination testimony is beneficial for the defense and i think it tells the jury that the prosecution is not coming clean with the entire story. Julie he insisted it was Election Fraud and deployed the word conspiracy to describe what he called an illegal Election Fraud scheme. Phil, how hard will this be for the prosecution . This is going to be a dicey one to prove that it was, in fact, Election Interference and not simply, you know, a catch and kill scheme that was not politically motivated . Great to be with you, julie. This is a trial that is seemingly in search of a crime. They already started and have one of their star witnesses who hasnt moved the needle at all for the prosecutor. When you are a prosecutor you are supposed to be the good guys and the one with the white hat bringing justice to a courtroom so a jury can lay their own justice. They stumbled out of the gate and might not be able to prove their underlying misdemeanor. This is a Business Records case. They will have to prove at a minimum that that Business Records misdemeanor took place so they can then attempt to try to bootstrap the felony to it. If they cant even prove that there was a Bookkeeping Violation of some sort, Business Records violation, theyre dead in the water. At least they should be. The open question i have, all of this is playing out in front of a jury selected from people in manhattan who may perhaps even just hate donald trump. So i still have questions about whether or not he is going to get a fair trial despite how well he is doing with these initial witnesses. Julie well have to wait and see. Theyre an break and continue our coverage on fox. Esteemed legal panel, thank you for talking to us today. Fascinating stuff and your insight as well. We have more updates from inside the courtroom straight ahead and just getting started, folks, stay right there. Checked youd rates lately . Many are over 22 , near 30 if you pay late. Why not do what thousands of veteran families have done. Call newday and pay off that high rate debt with the lower rate newday 100 va cash out loan. It lets you pay off your credit cards and car loans with one easy monthly payment. Get the cash you need and the Peace Of Mind you deserve. We pull people off the street and ask them about their hearts. Hows your heart . Doing good, thank you. Is it . I think so. You think so but, how do you know, right . I dont actually know. How do i know . You dont actually know. Im believing so. With kardio mobile, you can take a medical grade ekg in just 30 seconds from anywhere. 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The prosecution on the other hand believed that david peckers testimony saying he was fearful of making this deal with donald trump and his team allegedly that it would, in fact, perhaps violate Campaign Finance rules and that was something that he claimed angered the former president. So there are two sides to both stories. Well continue to watch this unfold. As you can see everyone is coming out of the Supreme Court there in Lower Manhattan and resuming the trial in just under an hour. Well continue to watch that. There is a lot of other news that we need to cover for you. Lets move on to that. Hundreds of proisrael demonstrators are holding a Rally Outside Columbia University. Inside another deadline for antiisrael protestors to clear out has come and gone and they are still negotiating with the School Administration meantime. Hundreds of antiisrael protestors have also occupied George Washington universitys campus in washington, d. C. Weve got dramatic video that shows the protests which have spread to dozens of colleges all across the country. At times they have gotten so chaotic and Violent Police have had to step in. Since april 17th, 34 of the top 50 u. S. Universities have seen antiisrael protests on their campuses. Im talking antisemitic anger, that includes top schools like harvard, m. I. T. And princeton. C. B. Cotton is at columbia with the latest there. Nice to see you. The crowd just started dispersing moments ago. 500 people, proisrael supporters, Family Members of some of the israeli hostages who gathered together to show solidarity with israel as propalestinian demonstrations continue to spread across College Campuses across the country. The people here say it is important for them to let the Community Know calls for a ceasefire should also include calls for hostages to be released. Now in the meantime as you mentioned, julie, Columbia University is trying to figure out how to clear out the propalestinian encampment in time for the undergraduate commencement on may 15th. University spokesperson says there is progress as discussions continue with Student Demonstrators and those demonstrators have pledged to stay camped out until the university meets their demands. Listen. We are calling upon Columbia University to divest, disclose and provide amnesty for all students and faculty disciplined in the movement for palestinian liberation. Those are central demands. Until those are met we wont be going anywhere. We will continue to protest. Minnesota Congresswoman Ilhan Omar joined the Student Protestors with her daughter yesterday on campus. She told our fox affiliate all jewish students should be protected regardless of whether they are, quote, progenocide or antigenocide. I will let you listen to her remarks directly from her. I think it is really unfortunate that people dont care about the fact that all jewish kids should be kept safe and that we should not have to tolerate antisemitism or bigotry for all jewish students whether they are progenocide or antigenocide. The bottom half of the statement is what has made this campus feel unsafe for them. There are a lot more developments were watching for out here on campus and we will be monitoring. Back to you. Julie i want to get a breakdown how many of these actual protestors are students at these schools. Obviously these protests are getting a lot of National Coverage because they are at colleges and very controversial what are they doing when they should be learning and educating at these colleges. So could a lot of these protests be led by those who will have nothing to do with the university and they are simply using these campuses as an excuse to get the attention theyre clearly getting . You know, julie, Columbia University said ongoing negotiations with the Student Demonstrators the people behind this, the students behind this have committed to removing any nonstudents from the encampment. I can tell you i hear from a lot of jewish students on this campus who say they still see nonstudents, grown adults milling on campus every day. You bring up a lot of interesting points. This is why House Republicans right now are calling for Columbia Universitys president to resign. The handling of this ongoing encampment. Julie thats just a starter. As far as the way these University President s are handling this, everyone has the right to protest, we understand that. This has got so out of control it has spread like wildfire with dozens of universities taking part and the Ivy League Schools are supposed to be nurturing and educating some of americas smartest future professionals and this is what it has come down to. At what point do they shut it down or say these protests can happen but need to happen elsewhere, not on our campus . And again, you bring up another really valid point. Columbia university in its latest update to the community said there will not be bringing the nypd in to clear out the encampment. You heard from one of the student organizers, they say i think this is almost sort has fueled the encampment. They know the administration is not going to bring in the police to clear them out. Who knows how long this will continue . Theyve already been camped out for more than a week. There have been proisrael jewish students and again House Republicans who have said order needs to be restored to this campus. We know House Speaker mike johnson called for the National Guard to be brought in. Whether it happens has yet to be seen. Julie thank you very much. Great job as always. T. W. Shannon, and matt bennett are here and join me now. Thank you for talking to me about this. Okay. First of all, i have to ask, as far as the university is concerned, at what point do local politicians get involved or local Law Enforcement . The mayor, for example and say enough is enough. Arrests are going to happen. The protests are not only, you know, an amendment of your free speech but they are also becoming violent. At what point do you see this as potential hate crimes when people have to hide if they are jewish in their dorm rooms and fear to go outside . The constitution does not protect your right to hate and to make people scared, which is exactly what the curriculum of hate is spawning across the College Campuses. Lets ask the question where did this come from and how did we get to this point in the United States of america . The reason were here, we have a president of the United States who has equivocated on so many issues. We need to speak with a firm, clear voice that hatred in america wont be tolerated. The radical left. Hamas caucus of the Democrat Party has taken over this party and this is just the end result. A symptom of a much larger problem and the hatred being spewed from the Democrat Party. Julie the Wall Street Journal coming out saying this, the former new york Governor Cuomo writes an oped titled antisemitism at Columbia University is a disgrace. Imagine if in the wake of 9 11 proal qaeda protestors chased new yorkers out of the city . Thats such an incredible point to add out. Remember, after 9 11 everyone was proamerican. It didnt matter whether you were jewish or christian. But now that sentiment has completely changed. This would be unacceptable because we were under attack by terrorists. Why is it acceptable now . It is not acceptable. I have to go back and just say that is ridiculous to blame this on joe biden. It is an appalling lie to blame this on joe biden. Joe biden hasnt spoken with clarity. I let you talk. You let me talk. I spoke. They are protesting the president who has stood with israel from the beginning and they are not democrats. These are people who are radicals. Democrats, make no doubt about it. The people who lead the universities are democrats. Be honest. If i could finish my comment. These are people who have said very clearly they have no intention of voting for joe biden and we dont want people like this in the Democratic Party and they are not part of the Democratic Party. They protesting the Democratic Party. Omars remarks about genocide are disgusting. A democrat. She had the decency yes, she is a democrat and people in our party saying things that are both not true and not fair. But at least she had the decency to say antisemitism. She is the lead he shall of the hamas caucus. Julie a lot of leftist leaders in constitution now that arent necessarily condemning the antisemitism in this country. So there is a double standard here. If we were talking in the days after 9 11, they it would be a bipartisan outcry. Why is this political . I dont understand it. It is disingenuous for democrats to try to run from the protests. They have embraced hamas within the Democrat Party. Embraced it totally and people at the demonstration are shouting we are hamas. Thats a fact you cant change it. Julie thank you both of you. Actually you will stay with me and tell you about the breaking news. I thought we could cut away. President biden is in new york city talking about that being interviewed by howard stern. The president said about debating trump moments ago lets listen. I dont know if you will debate your opponent. President biden i am somewhere. I dont know when. Im happy to debate him. Julie there you go. The president has basically been calling out biden for not wanting to go toetotoe with him. The first time we heard biden say lets debate. I dont know where and when. What do you think . Well, biden has been clear from the beginning he would gladly participate in normal debates we have in general elections and president ial campaigns run by the president ial Debate Commission, a neutral organization. The only reason that he was saying he doesnt know where or when is because the trump camp has said they wont participation in the president ial Debate Commission debates. Trump said he wants to debate biden and they will find a way to do it. I dont know as biden said where or when it will be . Nobody in america believes joe biden is willing to debate trump. This is the first time he whispered it in howard stern. He is incapable of debating President Trump by leading this country. 70 americans agree with the fact. There is a problem. All of america knows it. The enemies of america know it across the globe as well. Julie thank you both for coming on. Were monitoring trumps criminal trial in new york city. 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When the Special Counsel says he tried to overturn the 2020 election. The rule, of course, will also apply to future president s. The justices meet today to talk about yesterdays oral arguments which lasted nearly three hours. Here are some of the highlights. Prosecuting the president for his official acts is an innovation with no foothold in history or tradition. And incompatible with our constitutional structure. Im having a hard time thinking that creating false documents, that submitting false documents, ordering the assassination of a rival. That accepting a bribe and a countless other laws that could be broken for personal gain, that anyone would say that it would be reasonable for a president or any public official to do that. President is not above the law. The president is not a king. The founders thought that. I think your point in response to that is the president is subject to prosecution for all personal acts just like every other american for personal acts. The question is, acts taken in an official capacity. The framers knew too well the dangers of a king who could do no wrong. We arent endorsing a regime who we think would expose former president s to criminal prosecutions without adequate evidence. If an incumbent who loses a very close, hotly contested election, knows that a real possibility after leaving office is not that the president is going to be able to go off into a peaceful retirement, but that the president may be criminally prosecuted by a bitter political opponent, will that not lead us into a cycle that destabilizes the functioning of our country as a democracy . Julie the Supreme Court focuses on the presidency, not trump. Jonathan turley says they are about to plunge into a constitutional abyss with the case. Our legal panel back with us as we follow trumps New York Criminal Trial moment by moment. Andrew cherkasky, leo terrell, Andy Mccarthy and Phil Holloway again. Andy, i want to ask you about the hours long arguments yesterday, three hours. Kagan drilling trumps Attorney Questioning him on what qualifies a former president for immunity. Thats the question of the hour. Telling john sauer the framers did not put an immunity clause into the constitution. They were reacting against a monarchy who claimed to be above the law adding, wasnt the whole point that the president was not a monarch and that the president was not supposed to be above the law . The president s team says there should be immunity. A sitting president or former president should not be prosecuted. What takeaway do you have of these justices comments on immunity . Well, i think, julie, they pinned down dreeben, making the argument for jack smith team. They pinned him down to a concession there is a bit of president ial immunity that goes around the core of the president s duties. Justice kagan is correct they didnt use the word immunity. Trumps team pushes back the vesting of Executive Power in the president itself imply indicates immunity because congress cannot enact a law that criminalizes the president S Performance with his core responsibilities. So i think what will happen here is twofold. One is you have to decide how far outside the core of the president s duties the immunity extends. And the second thing is because the d. C. Circuit did not go through the mental acrobatics of trying to figure out which acts in the indictment are private and dont have immunity and which are official and do, that has to be done. So i would anticipate that they may send the case back to the judge with instructions to sort out whats official and what is not . Julie i get word they have resumed the trial. David pecker on the stand, the former publisher for the National Enquirer. First lets talk about his testimony yesterday because this is where the prosecution must prove that this money that was paid was, in fact, intentionally requested by the trump camp to interfere in the 2016 election. That is something that has been going back and forth, andrew. Where does the defense need to fill the holes in order to disprove that or did the prosecution get the testimony they needed yesterday from pecker to prove, in fact, that this was Election Interference and this was a violation of Campaign Finance law . Just to be clear, they need to establish that there was an intent to illegally interfere with the election. There is not right now under the new theory it seems the prosecution is moving forward with a direct allegation that it is an interference with election Campaign Finance law but this broad new york statute that says it is illegal to conspire with others to unlawfully interfere with an election. That goes back to the original allegation that deals with the idea that it is a fraud thats being committed by writing a check and entering into the register this Legal Services description of the campaign of the Hush Money Payments. So it turned into the circular argument where the original catch and kill plan seems to only be there to embarrass donald trump and establish what essentially was the beginning of this. Not that something going on with david pecker was inherently illegal in the first place. The illegal action doesnt take place until the checks are cut and register entry is put in there and the conspiracy with i guess the person who is actually writing the physical check as well as Michael Cohen seems to be related to that. The david pecker piece is an introduction to the overall scheme not illegal conduct in its own right. Julie phil, if you were to try this case, where would you find the illegal conduct here . Do you believe there is enough evidence to get a conviction on a number of these accusations . Well for the same reasons that andrew just pointed out, theyre having a very difficult time finding anything that was actually illegal. They are doing things that may be unseemly and talking about things that might be embarrassing but they have to find there was criminal intent not only with respect to the entry in the Business Records, but to further it with their newlyannounced. They didnt include this in the indictment. They are traveling under this other new york law that deals with conspiracy. But under that conspiracy statute you have to do something illegal. Because interfering with an election is what thats the term they use. But another term could be running a campaign because thats what campaigns do. Campaigns by their very nature and definition, their job is to influence the outcome of an election. What they are doing is taking normal campaign conduct, things that happen all the time with all these campaigns, and they are using a different monarcher calling it Election Interference, as if there is such a crime or anything like that. They are reaching, i think this is an overblown case from the very beginning. Never should have been brought. If i were Defense Counsel i would find one or two or three jurors on that panel that i could argue my case to. I dont think i will get 12 that will unanimously to acquit my client. If i can focus on one, two, three saying there is no crime here even if everything they are saying we did actually happened, it is not a crime. If you can get open minded individuals, the best that he might be able to hope for, i think, is a hung jury. I dont see this particular new york panel, this new york jury acquitting him. But a hung jury is certainly in the cards. Julie one of the catch and kill stories was going to feature Karen Mcdougal who thought she had a future in journalism by trading her story for a job. Lets talk about the prosecution essentially getting david pecker to talk about this, this socalled meeting that was called on by the former president for hope hicks and Sarah Huckabee sanders to get on the phone with david pecker after mcdougal appeared on a cnn interview talking. This socalled conference that they had, this conference call, if it can be proven. How damning is that. If it can be proven. Were giving the prosecution that they have created criminal conduct on the part of President Trump. I want to repeat what my colleague says. Hope hicks has no personal knowledge of any misconduct of a criminal nature involving President Trump. She has not testified. And what you have heard is hearsay. Nothing more than, nothing less. David pecker has no evidence of any criminal misconduct on the part of trump because he has no personal knowledge. All you have is a repeat of misconduct in the sense of embarrassment, trying to hurt President Trumps reputation. I will tell you right now, where this case is going is Michael Cohen. Michael cohen will be the key witness. You can expect a grilling of Michael Cohen by the prosecution by the defense team after he gets up there and basically in my opinion misrepresents his interactions with President Trump. Julie all right, yeah. Legal panel, thank you very much. Well continue to watch as Trump On Trial continues. David pecker currently back on the stand after taking a short break. He is the former ceo of american media, publisher of the National Enquirer and the center of it all whether this catch and kill was in fact a violation of multiple laws. So far the evidence just isnt there according to our panel. Michael cohen will be the man of the hour when he takes the stand. 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The timing in all of this. He buried a Couple Stories that, in fact, involved women that could have potentially hurt Donald Trumps chances winning the election. Some may say its Election Interference and any money exchanged could be Campaign Violation law. If you were to look at the facts before you, what does the prosecution need to do to effectively prove their case here . It sounds so far like they havent. Well, we have to be careful, julie, that the fact that we are a bunch of lawyers who understand what the weaknesses are here doesnt mean it is being communicated to the jury in the courtroom where they will be taking their queues from the judge, very friendly toward the prosecution. Let me give you an example of that. Evidently one of the things they are honing in on the testimony is pecker had some concern about whether the payment to Karen Mcdougal was a violation of Campaign Finance laws, the federal laws. David peckers State Of Mind regarding the federal Campaign Laws is not relevant to prove Donald Trumps either guilt or not guilt with respect to the Campaign Laws or his State Of Mind. This is the same game that bragg played with respect to Michael Cohen where he wanted to get in front of the jury the fact that cohen pled guilty to Campaign Finance violations. One of the few rulings merchan in trumps favor saying that guilty plea is not admissible evidence against trump with respect to Campaign Laws. So i think that they are creeping that in again and want to ask the jury to conclude that trump must have thought that he was guilty of Campaign Laws because pecker was worried that he was getting in hot water on Campaign Laws. Julie okay. I want to give you a little minute by minute playbyplay. We have producers in the courtroom constantly emailing us. They brought up. As soon as his attorney asks about Stormy Daniels, trump leans over to Say Something to his attorney, todd blanch, basically pecker confirming when he heard about Stormy Daniels allegations he wanted nothing to do with it. The Defense Attorney asked with the negotiations for stormy and her story and pecker explains again were just being told that ami, where he was a ceo, had nothing to do with it. They wanted nothing on the Stormy Daniels story. That is eye opening. Leo. If he didnt have anything to do with the Stormy Daniels and didnt want anything to do with it, whats the relevance of his testimony . Think about what is being said right now. What is the relevance of david peckers testimony for the last three days . Nothing. It does not push the needle to identify criminal intent on the part of President Trump. I want to be very clear about this. Normally most trial attorneys dont want lawyers in the jury box. There are two of them. 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