>> not everybody wealthy a tax cheat but a whole hell of a lot of it. >> laura: pot kettle black. classic. now, you heard the breaking news first right here on the angle right now. hunter biden indicted again on nine new tax charges. including, just three felony counts. he faces 17 years in prison for what the doj is describing as a four year scheme to avoid paying 1.4 million in taxes. prosecutors are saying that he spent money on drugs, escorts, girlfriends, luxury hotels, rental properties, exotic cars, clothing and other items. well, everything but his taxes. hunter made a number of payments using both his personal and his business bank accounts. to quote: various women totaling staggering 68 # thousand dollars and spent 188,000 on. [clearing throat] adult entertainment. let's break down personal expenses. a $1,500 venmo payment in 2018 to exotic dancer for what he called artwork. hmmm. but she hadn't sold him any. strange. he also paid escort for nearly $12,000 to spend two full nights with him. she should have charged more. lucky lady. now, we haven't even gotten to the business expenses yet. another exotic dancer received $773 in a venmo payment from hunter, maybe, i don't know, tango lessons? they are expensive these days. he flew another one across the country and spent tens of thousands of dollars on hotel rooms, many of which were the same ones that he named in his memoir as the locations of his month-long drug and alcohol binge. again, these were labeled as business expenses. >> your son, while there is no ties to you, could be charged by your department of justice. how will that impact your presidency? >> first of all, my son has done nothing wrong. i trust him. i have faith in him. and impacts my presidency by making me feel proud of him. >> laura: proud. well, of the fact that hunter also used the business line of credit to make more than $27,000 in payments to an online importanpornowebsite in 2019. [shouting questions] >> i'm very proud of my son. >> laura: hunter stopped paying spousal support to his ex-wife in 2018. that's a lot to be proud of. despite making $2.1 million that year. he blamed tuition costs, rent, and e oh yeah, taxes. you know, the ones he wasn't paying. now, at one point that same ex-wife found hunter's unfilled tax returns. not even filled out. in the trunk of his car. >> we have great confidence in our son. >> um-huh. >> i am not concerned about any accusations that have been made against him. he is the smartest man i know, i mean, pure intellectual capacity. >> laura: oh, there is something pure. i thought we should i suppose consider the source on that one. of course whenever they are pressed about hunter and hunter's valiances. biden's pals fall back on his battle with addiction. >> he loves his son. um, and he is proud of him overcoming his addiction and how he is continuing to build his life. >> no one knows who he is and then when you know the facts of him it's actually sad. a lot of americans are struggling with drug addiction. >> laura: like so much else involving the bidens, this was another and probably one of the worst lies. nice try but prosecutors made very clear that some of hunter biden's misconduct occurred well after he had regained his sobriety. now, thank the good lord for dogged congressional republicans who fought hard to expose the truth and, of course, the two irs whistleblowers gary shapley and joseph ziegler who risked their careers and the wrath of the federal government to tell the story of cover-up and corruption. joining me now is tristan leavitt, attorney for irs whistleblower gary shapely. what is gary's reaction tonight? >> he feels vindicated. he feels vindicated both he and joseph ziegler took a huge risk coming forward. they did it because at the beginning of this your it seemed like the case was dead notwithstanding the very strong findings they brought forward. this absolutely vindicates the claims that were made doubted by so many. in part released to the public right as the justice department announced the sweetheart plea deal. this clearly shows that plea deal was nothing but a slap on the wrist and the stunning facts that are in indictment also vindicate the investigative work of these agents. >> laura: now, hunter's attorney appeared on msnbc earlier today and was asked about whether or not his client was sober when he filed this most recent tax returns. here is his response. >> was he sober when he filed these returns? >> i don't know what year you are talking about i certainly. >> 2018 and 2020. >> i can't sit here today, katy and tell you if there is a 25-page tax return and there is one thing on it that could have been relabeled as something else. that's not the point. >> laura: are we supposed to believe is he sitting there meticulously doing his own taxes? really? >> yeah, it's laughable. but it's -- the fascinating thing about this case is that there is so much out there about those that did help him to prep his taxes and the assistance he received from others, like kevin morris, the hollywood attorney who gave him 4.9 million as joseph ziegler revealed earlier this week. there is a lot of information for the public to see and judge for themselves. >> a source who is close to this story told me today that people should really focus on where this money, outside money came from that went to hunter biden. that the source of the money is something that has kind of been overlooked. do you believe that that, in fact, is something that needs more serious examination? >> it's absolutely significant, the indictment itself really goes into what he spent his money on and what he didn't spend it on. paying his taxes. it doesn't go into where he got all this money. of course, that goes back as the indictment covers in some small portion to the 2014 and 2015 years, the burisma money where the statute of limitations having expired there won't be a deep dive into where, what he did for that money, whether joe biden was involved in that money. and the same for other money from china. so, those are absolutely questions of congressional investigators need to get to the bottom of. >> laura: interest in i should say hunter biden did appear on a podcast today. and revealed what he believes is the source of all of his legal problems. watch. >> this may not in every aspect be of russian disinformation campaign but it has literally every earmark. ha ha, of what the russians did. >> laura: really? russia, russia, russia, again? i thought that was a joke when i first heard it. >> it sounds like one. but, what really isn't a joke is that the allegations that the whistleblowers brought forward weren't just about hunter biden. that's not why the whistleblowers came forward. because doj tried to cover all of this up. david weiss right now is a special counsel. we still believe there needs to be a special counsel to investigate his office's actions because he is the one that completely turned around after interacting with biden administration officials and tried to brush this under the rug. >> that and the source of where this money came from earlier, where the statute of limitations was conveniently allowed to run. tristan, thank you for coming on tonight. we really appreciate it. this is a perfect transition. this indictment doesn't just illustrate hunter's disgusting lured lifestyle. , it also exposes as we were just talking about exactly why joe and special counsel david weiss wanted all of this buried. former chief assistant u.s. attorney fox news contributor andy mccarthy summed it up best. he said the indictment's background allegations get into schemes with various agents of corrupt and an be at this american regimes from whom the biden family business reeled in millions of dollars. burisma, cfc, romania, the largess of sugar bro hollywood lawyer morris and more. now predictably, all day the press down played the indictment, noting, once again, that joe biden himself wasn't mentioned. his brother jim was as are other hunter partners rob walker, james gilyard, devon archer and the founder of cefc that chinese interest. we have all seen the pictures of biden with several of them or is that a body double? now, perhaps, most importantly, weiss included in the indictment something we all knew, burisma cut hunter's salary in 2017, otherwise known as the year that biden left the office of the vice presidency. if the scheme outline and the tax charges are proved, it would be impossible to avoid evidence of joe biden's participation wrote mccarthy. here now sol wisenberg deputy independent counsel fox news contributor and mike davis president of the article iii project. sol, i know you have a prediction on hunter's plea. then we will get into the specifics. but what is that prediction? >> i think it's quite possible he will plead guilty. because, if this comes out before the election or during the election, it's going to be incredibly damaging to president biden. the only way he doesn't do that, i think, is if they would get a continuance and, gosh, wouldn't that be kind of hypocritical to demand a continuance for hunter biden because of the election season and his father where every single court is denying it for president trump? >> laura: well, once again, the question of a pardon came up today, mike, watch. >> in light of new charges, you said before the president would not pardon his son. is that still the case? >> nothings that changed. that is still the case. >> laura: well, to sol's point, mike, if there is some plea deal reached, you know, perhaps at least this next year, of course, there wouldn't be any need tore a pardon. wait until second term for that. >> yeah. david we weiss could have brougt these charges four years ago. handpicked u.s. attorney from both democrat home state senators. they wrote a letter of recommendation. i was the chief counsel for nominations he is their guy. he protected joe biden and the bidens for many years. he continues to protect joe biden. he brought these charges under pressure because a very good judge in delaware called him out on this sweetheart plea deal with this back door pardon. now he is bringing these tax charges against hunter biden, no foreign agent charges against hunter biden related to the tens of millions of dollars the biden family received, and i think president biden will pardon his son after the election. >> laura: sol, it is true, is it not, that the lure rid allegations in this indictment again we will say they are allegations in this indictment that may in fact take away from the source of this money that had been coming into the biden family grift for many years from foreign adversaries from china to romania, obviously what we know from the ukrainian-burisma situation. that really does spell trouble or would have, if the statute hadn't run. for biden himself, perhaps. >> it does focus much less on the foreign money than it does on the lurid lifestyle but, listen, this is a very-well crafted indictment. speaking indictment. it's devastating to hunter biden. and there's absolutely no reason why it couldn't have been done several months ago or a year ago. and it absolutely vindicates the whistleblowers. because this is their evidence that they got and demanded not be ignored. it vindicates them and it shows what an absolute sweetheart deal that plea that imploded was. mike is right. if it hadn't been for the judge asking the right questions and for the greediness. i have to say this. the greediness of hunter's defense attorneys at the time, for all of this hinky language they put in there, remember, the hiding the paragraph in the diversion agreement bridge too far. pigs got fat and hogs get slaughtered. they got slaughtered because they ask for too much. it was too weird in that plea hearing. > >> laura: now, mike, another moment from hunter's podcast appearance today, his thoughts on this prosecution? >> they are trying to destroy a presidency. so it's not about me. what they are trying to do they are trying to kill me knowing it will be a pain greater than my father can be able to handle. so, therefore, destroying a presidency in that way. >> laura: well, every time trump raises an issue like this, the prosecutors are trying to destroy a movement. they just laugh at him. what of that point, mike. >> it's obviously laughable. this david weiss was picked by both democrat senators he protected him for years. this indictment should be the beginning of the investigation. and this should get a lot bigger than hunter biden is and his drugs and his hookers. this implicates the president of the united states that he is compromised by foreign corruption. >> laura: sol and mike, no better analysis. thank you so much. up next, more fallout from that testimony on capitol hill this past week from those college presidents. when is context right for anti-semitism? my angle, next. ♪ how long have you been tracking the value of our car? 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>> yes. thank you for having me on, laura. one of the big problems with dei it is rooted in a critical social justice ideology often by default. there's other ways to look at things. but, unfortunately this particular world view sees every person as a victim or oppressor and it puts all of us in these categories. the anti-semitism that goes along with it is because some of these sociology justs and others have tried to paint jewish people as, quote: white oppressors. completely disregarding the diaspora. >> the diversity of the diaspora of the jewish people and historical facts. they care nothing about objectivity or facts or, you know, real historical knowledge. instead they repaint everything to align with this ideology that puts us all in this matrix of oppression and domination. >> and also pits people against one another. instead of encouraging a real dialogue of an interesting exchange. difference of opinion, ideology, outlook, instead, does it not demand conformity of thought and speech, publishing comments even in class it hearings you were just showing really showed how three supposed educational leaders could not clearly state if calling for the genocide of jews would go against their campus codes of conduct. they simply could not do it. their ideologies that have gotten them to where they are would prohibit them from saying as such. and it was so disappointing to see that. these are educational leaders of some of our top universities and they lack the moral courage to just say right from wrong. everyone knows that calling for genocide is wrong. a college president should definitely know that. and the testimonies from their students that representative stefanik brought out after these hearings, they really do speak to the environment and the climate and the fear that is being experienced by many jewish students on those campuses and it's due to that failed leadership and moral courage. and i agree with representative stefanik. they should all resign or be removed. >> laura: mi. >> it is standing by its president kornbluth saying, you know, their board of governors, like many of these boards of trustees, i mean, they are very few men and women of courage on these boards for the most part they are rubber stamps of frankly mediocrity and conformity of thought and group think. i said your name tabia lee. thank you for joining us. we appreciate your perspective tonight most needed. more religious celebrations being canceled? 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we have been celebrating this way for centuries and, guess what? we are going to do it again this year. back off, this is no place for your protest. you have to defiantly stand up or you lose all of these traditions. look, i give mayor eric adams of new york a lot of credit. he understands the game here. is he tightening security around menorah displays. listen. >> they want to divide us. they want us to cancel religious holiday gatherings. we have already seen menorah lighters be canceled in virginia. >> well. >> he is right. >> laura: sees the writing on the wall. >> i also hope, laura, that he strengthens the security around the catholic league displace around the plaza hotel. they have a nativity display there all of these should be protected. it's protected speech. it should be in the public sphere. nobody should back off of it. nobody. >> laura: i mean, when anyone tries to say anything or do anything regarding the quran which i'm not in favor of any of that they go crazy. people get violent in europe. but, i mean, we're not for any of that the country needs to be at peace. especially this time of year. all right, with all the holiday travel, i know i love that hat rules for travel,. >> not just the graphic. my first rule is once your plane lands they destination that, is not your invitation to leapfrog over your seat mates to get the door. witness this spirit airlines flight. don't do. this touch me mother. >> what are you going to do. >> i will wait right here. i don't do what you tell me to do. >> why does everybody have to run into the aisle, laura, the minute the bell rings, it's like they are like dogs at the races, you know, the bing and then they all start running and crowding around each other. just slow down and take your seat. you'll get out like at a wedding, you let everybody go in order. i have seen that. you don't run out of the church? running out of the church. the mother of the bride hasn't even left the church yet. that's bad for whatever reason we are not supposed to empty in drains dump it down the toilet. in order to not make a huge mess anywhere you have to get close to the toilet i imagine there is some kind of back splash of particles, bacteria that goes back into the coffee pot gets put back into the coffee maker. >> this is so nasty, laura. i have smelled that when you go into the bathroom. you smell the coffee grounds. they dump the coffee into the toilet and it splashes in. i have heard of thick black coffee i don't want that one. >> laura: raymond, go ahead. >> airplane lavatory what could be less hygienic than the fecal java. this passenger brought shrimp on board. boiled it in the bathroom sink using a battery and then proceeded to eat the shrimp at his seat. he cooked in the wash basin. i mean, these people really have to. >> laura: filmed it. >> just order something from the cart. >> laura: and filmed it. raymond, where are you headed this weekend? 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>> it's probably about 20 to 25% more right now. we'll see where it goes in the future. >> laura: what's the total? >> involved in four restaurants. family-owned restaurants here in the district. and over $225,000 a year we spend on security. >> laura: my breath was just taken away. >> it is a shocking number. but it is a sign of the times. >> and you are seeing young kids in increasing crime among the young, which i find very different from decades past here. >> i have been in the restaurant business in washington for 40 years, the big difference now is it's young people that are just victimized whoever with no thought or regard. ened in the past it's always been somewhat targeted with whatever reason there was for the beef or something. but now these children and they are children, are out there just doing things they don't know any better and they don't care. >> he recidivism and a failure to punish those guilty of violent crime and menacing of people on the streets. is that being done? >> you have a council that has really tied the hands of many of the police officers and the judges by putting forth laws that are absurd, in my opinion. i believe they are not allowed to interview a juvenile without a lawyer present. even if he was a witness to a crime. i believe there are judges out there that are letting people go when the police are trying to do things. i have been involved in crimes where the police officers are hesitant to go forward because the paperwork will result in nothing that is what scares me more than anything else. activism on the legislative level that is pushing criminals to do whatever they want. >> how much of an impact county dove lockdowns have on the psyche of the city and the mentality, especially the young. >> tremendous. i think they have been coddled and to some extent ignored to the point where they have been able to go out and do whatever they want without feeling they have to answer to anybody. >> laura: thank you for your story. i know you want this city to succeed and small business owners, restaurateurs all of them to succeed. should be the greatest place in the country. >> we need people to have confidence going in any city not just washington. >> laura: and common sense. >> thanks for having me. >> laura: see you at the restaurant. could giant spiders be coming to a town near you? 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>> that thing is right in front of me right here and i will hold it up for everybody to see. here is the critter in question. let me move so you can see it on the camera. >> okay, it gets as big in the post that i was reading. it said it can get as big as a human hand. oh my god is moving towards her hand. move the stick, it's coming to get you. it can be as big as a hand? that looks like a teenager. >> this is a small line. i tried to get a large one for this segment but i couldn't find a large one. this is on the small side. it will get almost as big as your palm. that's the maximum size it will get. if you are an arachnophobia this is the stuff of your worst nightmares. >> how did they arrive here? it usually on a cargo ship. somehow it's always coming from asia. is that what happened here? >> that's our best guess. this species is really good at hitchhiking. they can put an exact on a cargo container. it would stay there for about three or four months while the cargo container is being moved around the world. that is one possibility. these spiders as adults can cling to cars and trucks. i was literally driving down the highway at highway speed and looked over at my passenger side mirror and i saw a spider hanging off of it at highway speed. they are really good at hitchhiking. that is probably our best guess where how they got here. >> are they poisonous or toxic to human beings at all? 2 that's a good question. all spiders have some venom. this spider is no different. this is not in the same category as your black widow or brown recluse where you can have to get out the cans of raid. this spider will not harm people. it's probably only going to really hurt you if you try to pick it up with your fingers. even then, it's a rather shy species. i have tested this in my lab. it literally is one of the shyest species of spiders that we know of. >> where is the spider now? is it still on the stick and did you put it down? >> it is right here. she is exploring the stick. some people keep these spiders as pets because they are so docile. >> they are pets? >> some people keep spiders as pets. it's a real thing. >> what do you feed the spider? a cheeseburger? what do you feed this thing. it eats all types of insects and everything else? >> when i do keep some of the spiders in my lab i feed them flies. for the most part, for my work, i capture them from the wild and bring them in and let them go after i am done with them. these spiders here are really exceptional because of their size, their striking coloration and because of their large webs as you can see in the shot here. the webs of the species are at least three or 4 feet in diameter. i can tell you from experience in my front yard you can have a web that is three or four spiders that are all clustered together that would make like a giant cluster web that is 10 feet long. it's the stuff out of indiana jones. >> i am not coming to your house anytime soon. ever. i appreciate your study of these spiders. i would like to keep them in new york and new jersey and not have them come to washington, d.c. or virginia. >> about that. they are coming your way. people need to know that there is no stopping their spread. i've had people e-mail me asking me if i can do something about this. i tell them no. there are at least a million of them in the southeast. every single one of these can lay 500 eggs a piece. just do the math and it's overwhelming at this point. >> andy, great to see you. but that spider back in whatever it is, the crate. >> things for the opportunity. >> follow me on social media, instagram, x and facebook. thank you for watching all week long. remember is america now and forever. will cain is in for jesse and he is next.
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