pace that israel wants. that might explain why israeli has not committed to extending a cease fire another day. this might explain it more. this is what happens during a pause. the scene from the streets of jerusalem. hamas terrorists killing three israelis at a bus stop and injuring six others and a separate ramming attempt on a checkpoint injuring two idf soldiers. the hostage swap continues but it's looking like the pause will not. "your world" starts now. welcome, everybody. i'm neil cavuto. we have an hour to go here before we understand whether israel is yay or nay on adding another day to a pause in hostilities here. we've had seven straight. given all this violence, growing signs that that's it for israel and we'll know in about an hour when a new day begins and perhaps a new war is on. welcome. i want to go to nate foy and get his read from northern israel. nate? >> breaking just in the past minute, israeli media is reporting that the process is underway for the newest round of hostages to be transferred over to the red cross. we're working to independently verify that. but it comes after two hostages were released earliered too. same thing happened yesterday except the two women yesterday were israeli russians. that was scene as a gesture to vladimir putin by hamas. these women have no affiliation to russia or any hamas supporter. take a look at these women today. a21-year-old and 40-year-old woman. back in israel after spending 55 days in hamas captainivety. the 21-year-old was taken from the music festival october 7. she reunited with her mother today. take a look at this video. [crying]. >> the aunt said she was operated on by a vet in gaza after suffering an arm injury on october 7th. her release came just hours after this. you mentioned a terrorist attack in jerusalem this morning where two hamas gunmen murdered three israelis, sent 11 more to the hospital. prime minister benjamin netanyahu had this to say about that today. >> this is the same hamas that carried out the terrible massacre on october 7th. the same hamas that tries to murder us everywhere. i told them nothing will stop us. >> neil, a sad update about a american mother that was released yesterday. her kibbutz manager announced today that her husband was murdered by hamas terrorists. so she will now raise their three children without him. as for the newest round of hostages that are now reportedly being transferred over to the red cross, we're working to verify exactly who is on that list. parents of a 17 and 18-year-old brother and sister claim their children are on that list and will be coming home tonight. >> neil: thanks, nate. i want to go to peter doocy at the white house. you heard antony blinken is in the region meeting with top officials. no word on what is coming of the discussions. peter, what can you tell us? >> officials are here confirming details of a report that came out last night that was biden phoned benjamin netanyahu imploring him not to repeat a military operation in the south that looks like what we saw in the north whenever it is that fighting resumes. >> we have been very consist tint and clear with our israeli counter parts that we do not support a move to the south unless or until they have adequately accounted for the protection of innocent human life. >> netanyahu told biden according to axios that he's still going to go in to gaza's south because that's where hamas is. the soft pressure on d.c. to tel aviv is coming from tony blinken in tel aviv urging israel not to sink to hamas's level. >> as i also said, the way israel defend itself matters. it's imperative that israel act within the laws of war. even when confront ago terrorist group that respects neither. >> as we watch the current secretary of state overseas trying to advance the u.s. president's diplomatic interests, it's worth pointing out that president biden has nothing to say about the former secretary of state henry kissing ir's passing last night. nothing on twitter or x, no e-mailed statements, nothing on camera at an event he had just now. we know the president told donors that he thought kissinger knew more about foreign policy than anything. that is very unusual for something like this. >> neil: peter doocy at the white house. thanks, peter. honor to be joined by dan gillerman. ambassador, good seeing you. what do you think of this pressure on israel right now? cool it, don't go too far. your response? >> well, i can -- first of all, good to be with you. >> neil: same here. >> i can understand where the pressure comes from. i can understand to sensitivity and the care which the president and others have for the people of gaza. but we do, too. we really make very clear distinction between the monsters of hamas and the innocent victims of hamas, who are the people of gaza. but you know, a war is something that cost lives. the israeli army has been described as the most morale army in the world. we have asked people to leave. we have made sure that we really hit as few civilians as possible. but when you have such a vicious, cruel and cynical enemy, that keeps its own people as human shields and really doesn't care about their lives, not only don't tear care about israeli lives, they don't care about palestinian lives. the big difference is for every dead palestinian child is a horrible mistake and tragedy. for them, every dead israeli child is a success and a cause for celebration. when i say a celebration, one of the things that distinguishes hamas -- i'm going very far by saying even from the nazis, is the fact that they not only carry out these very vicious horrendous and human acts of beheading babies and children, raping women, they celebrate it. the nazis tried to hide it. they advertise it as a success. so when you are dealing with an enemy like that, you have to make sure that that they are no longer there to threaten our people and to come back and do the horrible things that they did on october 7 which they vow to do. >> neil: is there a limit to israel's patience with these constant delays and cutting the pause? we're about 50 minutes or so from midnight in israel. at which point we're told that the pause after seven days ends. will it? >> there's a limit to our patience. especially because hamas are using that hostage and this -- this release as a game as part of their psychological warfare. they dead side who to release, when to release. they're separating women from chirp. they're separating husbands from their wives. z they are doing the most inhumane things. by that trying to also influence israeli public opinion. i think there will come a moment very soon, maybe tonight, when israel will have to say enough is enough. we have to continue this. we're continuing this because we're not enjoying going to war -- >> neil: but it's your hope that the pause stops. after seven days it stops. you've been a critic. some of your colleagues have been a critic that hamas is stringing everyone along in its hope to regroup as it releases hostages, a few at a time. is it fair to say then that the pressure from the white house to continue this hostage process, where exchanges are going on every day that that stops? there's no reason to continue it after tonight? >> with your respect and we have great respect for the white house and the president has been steadfast in his support for israel, i think that we have to put an end to it. because that game cannot go on forever. >> neil: so you're ready to tell the president of the united states, this is our war. we're not going to do that? >> yes. i think we will. i think we'll have to. because we have to finish the job. and by the way, when i say finish the job and making sure that hamas is no longer there, able to do the horrible things that they did, we're fighting not just ourselves, we're fighting for you, too. for you too, mr. president, for you too, american friends. for you too, europe. you know what we're seeing in israel is just a preview soon to be seen in a theater near you. we're seeing some signs of it in this country. if we don't finish hamas off and eliminate it and enable it to continue, it will come to europe, come to the united states and therefore it is our responsibility first and foremost to ourselves, but also for the world to make sure they're no longer there. because of that, i think there will have to be an end to those so called human deter rent pauses and israel will have to continue until they finish the job. >> neil: these protests that have been worldwide in this stu and last night they disturbed the holiday tree lighting at rockefeller center. we've been seeing a lot of these pro-palestinian uprisings across the united states in support of the palestinians. some of these blatantly say it's in support of hamas itself. what do you think of that? do you fear that you're losing that part of this war? the p.r. war that hamas oddly enough is the one that seems to be winning that part. >> sadly there's a lot of truth in what you just said. i'm not sure we're losing the p.r. war, but you know, people have a very short memory. the horrendous events that happened on october 7th with babies being taken hostage, with children beheaded and women raped have been forgotten and all people now see is the rubble in gaza. i'm sure that some of these protesters sympathize with their brethren in gaza. i hope they don't sympathize with hamas who is not only our worst enemy, but the worst enemy of the people in gaza who they're holding hostage. so we have to do what we have to do. may not look -- it isn't very pretty, but at the end of the day, we have a solemn responsibility to our people, to make sure that they don't have on their border these hamas monsters. i mean, hundreds of israelis have been displaced, had to leave the south and the north. they will not go back to their home unless they're sure that they don't have next to them a neighbor who vows to repeat what they did on october 7th. so we have to create that security for them. with all due respect to the rest of the world and to the united states, at the end of the day, you know, we're not asking american soldiers to fight for us. we're fighting our own war. we always have. we will do it this time and hopefully and i believe we will be resilient, i believe we're strong and i believe that we shall prevail and win this. >> neil: ambassador dan gillerman, thank you. >> thank you, neil. >> neil: we're about 45 minutes away from knowing one way or the other whether there will be an eighth day to this pause in fighting. there was no 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we'll give this another day or two. we don't know how it will end up. to congressman michael waltz of florida, intelligence, former green beret. he's the real deal. it's very good to have you back with us. >> thanks, neil. >> neil: there was pressure peter doocy reporting from the white house for more or less telling israel, not go slow but be careful. if a pause were to stop, don't go nuts. that was my interpretation, congressman. peter doocy himself might correct me. what do you think of that? >> neil there's three or four phases of this. get the hostages out. hamas will continue to buy type by trickling hostages out. that gives them time to resupply after the israeli offensive and present themselves on the international stage and the propaganda and the p.r. war as humanitarians, as benevolence, which is pretty incredible but that's what they're doing with some effect. the next piece is what happens in southern gaza. that's what you see the administration trying to influence. my advice is stay out of the israeli's way. we have an interest in terms of the american hostages. i want to hear more about what is happening to the u.s. citizens still under hamas' thumb. what will happen in southern gaza and the big unanswered question is post hamas. what does it look like? is this a u.n. force, is it an israeli occupation, some type of multinational authority? that's the big question. finally, neil, this is the crux of it all. all roads lead back to iran. until this administration reverses course on iran, this is all going to continue to happen whether it's a year from now or five years from now. will us house republicans are taking action. we're voting today to sanction the $6 billion that went for the hostage exchange and make sure that money, whether it's fungible or not is not used to further terrorism. >> neil: we're learning as you're speaking there, 30 palestinians will be released today part of this continuing exchange. it looks like about ten hostages on the israeli side. that continues what has been a ratio, something like three to win palestinians released versus israels released. i don't know the breakdown of those palestinians, whether they were all in jail or being monitored by the government. it is lopsided what do you make of it? >> it's incredibly lop sideand how we have come to this ratio of the worth of an israeli life versus the worth of a palestinian life. i don't know. i can tell you, aside from the numbers, these are literally babies, children, elderly women that hamas snatched out of their homes after brutalizing their families in front of their eyes versus is criminals that worked through an israeli court system. so it's not just the numbers. it's the offense of nonversus -- some stabbing offenders, people that have bombed bus stations. the bigger piece, hamas took these hostages, the taliban does it, isis does it. they do it -- the iranians do it for hostage diplomacy to gain concessions to buy time. they're literally using these people's lives to get -- to gain their objectives. it's not just israeli lives, they're doing it with their own people with the human shields they're using. we should call it out at every time. >> neil: we had former ambassador gillerman on with me. they have been saying the same, if the united states tells us to cool it, we won't. even if the united states says to pause hostilities indefinitely, to secure ongoing hostage releases, we won't do that. now, that risks a great deal of wrath between the white house and israel because we give them a lot of money and support. some in israeli could interpret that as being on tinder hooks if they go ahead and ignore us. but again, every israeli official with whom i've been speaking has said that. if it comes down to that with all respect to the united states, all respect to this president, we won't do that. we cannot do that. what do you think? >> put yourself in their shoes. let's go back to september 12th, 2001. it was take the gloves off and put bombs on these terrorists foreheads. i have had to go in to schools and hospitals while getting shot at by terrorists hiding behind civilians and we lost men, lost american soldiers trying to go room to room when the easier thing would have been to do frankly was just eliminate the entire building. so i have every confidence that the idf as an army that follows the laws of the -- and rules of warfare will do everything that they can. not only from a human rights standpoint to avoid civilian casualties, but they know it's being used against them in the global propaganda war. the political leadership knows that, the israeli government knows that. i don't see why we feel the need to go in their war cabinet and lecture them about human rights when the abusers are on the other side of that wall in gaza and that should be what we hear from blinken, from biden and the entire administration. calling out the tearists for who and what they are. senator cotton says seems like we're putting more pressure on the israelis. >> neil: at the rate we're going, ten hostages releases every day, after today, we'll have over 100 hostages in hamas hands or some of their private operatives. we don't know. it would take a lot of days of pauses to get them out. the flip side is the fear that if the war resumes full throttle, those hostages are in peril. how do you balance that? >> well, it's frankly, neil, it's almost impossible to balance. my understanding is there's about a dozen women and children left. one would think that we pause long enough to get them out. but then, god help those men and those soldiers that were taken. because at some point you're going to have to make that tough decision. bibi will have to make that tough decision. every day that goes by, hamas will regenerate, regain strength. you have to weigh what those hostages -- the price they're going to pay versus those soldiers that you're going to have to send in. and then on the international stage, i believe it's going to get exponentially harder every day that goes by for the israelis diplomatically and from a p.r. standpoint to restart. that is a brutally tough decision that only the elected leadership, the political leadership of israeli can make. >> neil: congressman, i appreciate your patience here. we're showing a seen at the rafah crossing. this is the passage way for some hostages to get out, get medical attention. we're waiting to see the proof of the ten. the fact of the matter is, at this rate, hamas has built up seven days now where some israelis fear that they can regroup and do what they have to do or want to do to extend this war and heighten this war even with the attacks yesterday like palestinian gunmen right in israel itself. so they have not changed their ways here. i'm just wondering what you make of that and whether -- it's very good to have hostages back in same hands, this might be doing more harm in the longer run. >> remember what else is happen at the same time in these pauses. supplying are going in to gaza. i have yet to hear a clear explanation from the administration on how we're assuring that hamas and its thousands of fighters are not syphoning the fuel, the food, the medical supplies that they know they have done and taken that and prevented that from going to the palestinian people and used it for their own ends. so you have those supplies that they could be syphoning, resting, refitting, repositioning, but then also i have not seen in the briefings that i received that we are interdicting the rockets, the munitions, the weapons that we know iran is sending a cross iraq, across syria and through its various infiltration, the tunnels, through the sea, the various smuggling routes as well. so the end of the day, hamas is getting stronger with every day. that's the balance that the israeli military is going to have to make. weighing the fate of those hostages with weighing how much more difficult, how many more soldiers they're going to lose when they restart. and then the international dynamic. what i want to hear the administration talking about is not lecturing the war cabinet on these tactical issues. how do we deprived iran of the funds that they're using to fund this war men ether through oil markets, sanctions that we have passed on shipping, ports and refineries, the hostage money, the foreign currency reserves, the loans that they're getting. all of these loop holes is what the administration should be talking about and should be shutting down. again, not lecturing a freely-elected sovereign war cabinet. >> neil: real quickly, congressman. i looked in to the finances available to iran. they're sitting on anywhere from 15 to $20 trillion. that is just what it has in its country right now. regardless of what we might and might not freeze. what is to stop them from saying do you whatever you want. you can freeze until the cow comes home. keep doing what you're doing. we're fine. the oil revenue, we made $7 trillion in the last few months. >> that's a fair point. we're sitting on the results of two years of turning a blind eye out of this vain hope, this fantasy and fairy table of entering into the jcpoa. it will take some time. so sooner we start drying up the funds again, the sooner we start maximum pressure. by the end of the trump administration, they were down to $4 billion in foreign currency reserves. by estimates i've seen, they're back up oh $30 billion. the sooner we cut it off, the better. >> neil: i misspoke. $20 bill at that rate. thanks, sir. congressman mike waltz of florida. we're following the developments here. what you've been watching is the release of six hostages first handed over to the red cross. this is coming from a palestinian official familiar with the ongoing truce talks. what we're not familiar is where the other four are. it's a matter of time. 29 minutes to go on a pause that could end tonight. lowe's knows same-day delivery means getting what you need, 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now. all of this has we're showing you, the photos of at least six hostages released and handed over to the red cross and then getting a medical checkup here. they're all okay. this on top of two russians that were released in the last few hours. again, the numbers are encouraging, but they're still small. in other words, if you just look at the total israeli's released right now, about ten. three times as many palestinians were released. not all from prisons in israel, but a good many. we don't know exactly some of their background and why they got the release versus others that did not. just that that ratio holds. three times as many palestinians released as israelis released. with us right now in the flesh, dr. mark esper, the former defense secretary under president trump. good to have you. >> good to be here. >> neil: what do you make of this process? it's the same thing every day. promising, but we don't get it finished until often the final minutes of the day. >> there's so much we don't know as well. it's in hamas's interest to extend the suspension of hostilities as long as possible. gives them time to refortify their fighting positions. for the israeli government, they want their hostages back. the challenge is nobody wants to be the one to break the deal. it appears that hamas is unwilling to cough up its share, which is supposed to be ten a day. the idf is poised to move back in to gaza, southern gaza in particular, once this breaks down. we'll see. i suspect there will be last-minute negotiating to free it up. >> neil: i can understand the pressure. i'm sympathetic to the bind people are in here, that if you close off talks and discussions or, you know, miss the opportunity for another day of pause, it closes off the possibility for hostages getting released and maybe never seeing that at all the hostilities resume. how would you, you know, decide that? >> it's a tough issue. its influenced by the domestic politics in israel. the israeli people have said to the netanyahu government, we want you to get the hostages back first and foremost. so they're caught there. >> neil: you've said it there. don't do anything until they're out. >> yeah, if you did ten a day, it could be another 15, 17 days. hamas believes the longer that they draw this out, israeli faces pressure from the united states, from the international community to say time for a cease fire. let's cut a deal. most in israel, at least israeli leadership, they don't want that. they want to eliminate hamas or we'll be back at this a year, two years from now. hamas has said that they want to conduct october 7th again and again and again. >> neil: could you believe the figures -- i had a number of israeli officials here, including ben gillerman, talking about how much iran has supported and financed hamas and hezbollah, these other groups. gillerman didn't say it, but some say as much as 90% of hamas' financial wherewithal is directed from iran. >> it's tens of millions of dollars. you have to calculate the arms, the training. they provide some degree of political support and diplomatic support. i've been arguing consistently, you can defeat hamas by destroying them, but the other part of the equation is, you have to prevent them from regenerating. to do that means you have to stop the flow of arms and equipment and funding from iran. that is the big issue we've yet to confront, that we need to begin talking about. >> neil: we don't seem to respond in the same manner that we ourselves, american soldiers are targeted. we're up to 76 attacks. >> 76 attacks against u.s. forces in the last five six weeks and we have responded five, six, seven times. i raised that with the pentagon spokesperson, patrick ryder. a little exchange on where that process starts and finishes. this is from the brigadier general. >> when it comes to these iranian proxies and it comes to these attacks in places like iraq and syria, i don't want to minimize the danger that those present. but most of those attacks have been largely unsuccessful. whereas our strikes are always on target and they're always going to hit the intended target. it's going to diminish irgc and iranian proxy capability in the region. >> >> neil: but it doesn't. if it did, iran would stop it and the proxy attacks would cycle back. they're not. >> yeah, look, again, this is not the first time these groups have conducted these kinds of attacks. so clearly it's an effort to exploit the situation. >> and they are exploiting the situation. >> i'd say two things. just because someone swings at you and misses doesn't mean you shouldn't pop them in the nose. you're trying to prevent them from taking another swing at you and hitting you. with regard to the hitting, over 60 american service members have been injured so far. everything from shrapnel to traumatic brain injury. what will it take? i recall when i was in office december 2019, they attacked an american base. we responded very quickly with multiple air strikes and multiple locations. we kid over 20 irgc and wounded over twice as many. that's the type of response we need to see. part of this goes back to the fact that the biden white house is concerned. they think this will escalate the situation if they repond more forcefully. my argument is, it will escalate if we don't. that's why i think we should be responding more to these attacks. >> neil: so those attacks include attacks on iran itself. going after the proxies. iran knows we're reluctant to widen this out for fear it widens couldn't and they continue to do what they do. >> i wouldn't go against iran directly right now other than what troops they have. for two reasons. first of all, we don't want to on a another front in this conflict until we give israel time to defeat hamas. >> they know that. iran knows that. that's why we're -- >> the other thing it could be doing -- and i talked about this in my memoir. you have to prepare the theater for a large scale conflict if you're going that far. my argument would be let's start moving what we need to in to the region in anticipation that we'll pop them back sometime and we're prepared to have that fight. i don't think that that is now. what we should be doing now is talking to the partners in the middle east, allies in europe and saying how do we get iran under control once and for all. this has been going on for 45 years. let's begin with reinstituting tough finance sanctions, sanctions on their military, arms. >> neil: isn't that too late, secretary? they're sitting on as much as $20 billion. that is money that they have in house in their country. so yeah, tens of billions more outside that they would love to get their hands on. but they have enough to keep doing what they're doing undeterred. >> sure. start strangling them -- >> neil: we've always been strangling them, no? what happened? >> no. the trump administration tried with the maximum pressure campaign. we didn't get full support from the european partners. my wanted to see the nuclear deal survive. they were hoping that a new administration would come in. i don't think we fully tested that out adequately. i think at the same time, you have to be having those plan b talks, being what is the military option once and for all. >> neil: i'm wondering here, there's a rift in congress about how much do we support israel, how much do we give them. even democrats want a clearer part how to move forward. don't let israel overdo it in their response. it's a mess. in between that and ukraine funding that could be dying on the vine, are you worried? >> i am. we have the strange dynamic with some republicans opposing funding for ukraine and some democrats opposing funding or put conditions on israel. it makes no sense to me. both cases we need american leadership providing arms, assistance, equipment, political leadership, diplomatic cover to win these fights, this is about fighting bad guys. putting conditions on israel a democracy a country that shares our interests and values, close cultural ties, partner for years, doesn't make any sense. they're all bound like many countries to following the laws of land warfare. if we want to check on them, that's fine. they're doing the best they can in a tough situation where you have the enemy, hamas, a terrorist group hiding behind innocent civilians. putting command centers and bunkers beneath hospitals and schools and mosques. it's tough. at the same time, they have an obligation to eradicate hamas once and for all. >> neil: thanks. we're going back to israel right now keeping track of the hostage release. close to ten when all is said and done. the clock ticking 15 minutes before midnight in israel when this seventh day of pause in activity will supposedly end and stop there. nate foy in northern israel with more. hi, nate. >> hi, neil. we have breaking news to report. six more israeli hostages are now back in israel presumably to go to medical facilities to reunite with their families, this makes a total of eight hostages today with the two israeli women that were released earlier, which notably does not meet the threshold of the agreement in the temporary cease fire where every day that it has been extended, israel is supposed to reself-deen. today the total is eight. yesterday the number was 12. that's ten per day. but we are learning about this list of six hostages after the previous two. it does include the brother and sister that we have reported about where the parents said they were on the list. they are. their names are isha and balal alzadna. pardon me if that is not correct. if the idf counts were correct a couple days ago combined with the releases yesterday, this would now mean that the only two children that we know of who remain in gaza in hamas captivity would be the 4-year-old and 10-month-old baby that the idf had said possibly had been handed off to another terrorist group within gaza. so that is what we know right now about the hostages that were just released. they're now back in israel. we have breaking news to report, tragically, neil, after this morning's terrorist attack in jerusalem when two hamas gun american, brothers, opened fire and initially murdered three people. we're now learning that a fourth person was killed in that attack. originally injured, hit by friendly fire when reservists took down the two gunman. this fourth person was hit, went to the hospital and is now passed away. back to you, neil. >> neil: nate, i'm curious on that and that attack. that occurred during, you know, this pause when we were told that that would not be going on. ironically palestinian gunman that did keep it going on. that has to influence and weigh on the government's decision whether to extend this pause or not. >> you would absolutely think so, neil. and it's difficult to understand how that is not a breach of the cease fire. these brothers were affiliated with hamas. there's no evidence that hamas directed the attack. so it's possible that that is the line here, that theoretically it was not crossed to break the cease fire agreement. the tension here is certainly palpable. the agreements here dating back to last night and today seems to come to the end of the day where no one really knows if the cease fire will be extended and these negotiations are happening late in to the night. we're coming up on midnight and the hostages are just get back to israeli. the process drags on. tomorrow it appears it's going to happen again. we'll see how many people come back home who have been held in hamas captivity. >> neil: nate foy, thanks very much. you know by now obvious that we've lost an iconic global figure, henry kissinger. as we were reviewing interviews we had with them over these many years, eerily comments he made about hamas more than a decade ago. we'll take a look at that and an incredible life after this. vision insurance doesn't do you any good if you don't use it. just like this 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