>> bill: these are scenes on the streets of jerusalem. watch here now. you see the gunmen get out of that white car. identified as palestinians in jerusalem getting car and opening fire at a bus stop. it wounded half a dozen and killed three. the measure of the level of tension within israel as we continue our focus on the gaza strip and elsewhere. a big day of news today. bill hemmer live in new york city. good morning. >> dana: good morning. i'm dana perino and this is "america's newsroom." one of the reasons that we have all this video now is because cameras are everywhere and you get to see what they're up against. the deadly attack in jerusalem comes as israel and hamas agreed to extend the truce for another day. it allowed more than 70 israeli hostages to return home and we're starting to learn the harrowing details of their captivity. >> bill: there are many. the youngest american freed by hamas, 4-year-old abigail edan. terrorists murdered her parents in front of her and kept her in the dark for 50 days. >> we are blessed by the miracle of her coming home to israel. when she got home, her parents, who were both murdered on october 7th by hamas terrorists, were not there to greet her. it was dark. she had no light. her aunt and her grandmother went to meet her. she was thin. she was hungry. i see those faces and you all see those faces after 52, 53 days, they can't stay there much longer. >> bill: right about that. greg palkot is live in tel aviv today with the latest as of this hour. hello, greg. >> bill, dana, incredible accounts. we'll have more on the terror attack in jerusalem in a moment. first the extension of the cease-fire between israel and hamas we're awaiting maybe in the next few hours the latest release of hostages out of the grips of hamas in gas qua strip. late last night we saw the return of 16 hostages. joyful scenes as the vehicles carrying the former cabtives crossed into israel. they're being treated at hospitals and treated to wonderful reunions with family members. some of them also having been freed from the hands of hamas. one of those 49-year-old israeli american, a high school teacher, mother of three. she was kidnapped from a kibbutz and her husband remains a prisoner. all this amid a terror attack at a bus stop in jerusalem this morning rush hour. three people killed. a dozen injured when two men armed with m-16 automatic rifle and pistol opened fire and then killed by off duty israeli soldiers nearby. hamas claiming responsibility as the u.s. is back in the region. secretary of state antony blinken meeting with netanyahu and other officials today, including palestinian authority president abbas saying he wants to prolong the cease-fire to get more captives out and more aid in. guys, a top figure at a children's hospital here taking care of a lot of the young freed hostages spoke out today. he described the unimaginable, surreal, his words, accounts coming from the kids. he also said they have the strength to overcome the horror. a lot of brave stories. back to you. >> bill: more to come, too. unfortunately. thank you, greg palkot live in tel aviv. "wall street journal." dan henninger. hamas seizes the advantage. this is what he writes today. he talks about in the u.s. we've arrived at a familiar crossroads amid a growing atmosphere of civil disorder much organized. we can stand back and live with it and push back deciding the price to our own security could be too high. end quote. you think last night in mid town manhattan outside our building here. he is right. >> dana: also on college campuses across america and hollywood, right? yes, i would say you push back. >> bill: the prediction he makes in her is hamas is buying time. the more time they buy the more they'll put pressure on the u.s. government to get the israelis to pull back on going back into gaza. we'll see. >> dana: more on that as it comes. recent elections show conservative politics on the rise in europe. a right leaning populous party making major gains in netherlands climate and there is discontent among voters. >> last week the netherlands experienced what the times of london newspaper here calls a political earthquake. the dutch elected a man named wilders, a conservative described as similar to donald trump. brash, humorous, accused of hate speech primarily against islam. dutch voters don't like grandstanders and considered a moderate country but they elected wilders in a loss of confidence in the mainstream political establishment as issues like immigration and the economy have grown increasingly important to the dutch. >> we will make sure that the netherlands will be for the dutch people again. we'll restrict the migration. people will have more money in their wallet again. >> the problem for willeders, netherlands prime ministers don't necessarily inher et power. he is from the freedom party and has to form a coalition to govern. it might prove difficult. willeders election comes with a political shift across europe described as a populous wave. consider the rise of conservative political parties. right wing parties are now in power in italy, hungary. la penn is rising in popularity and becoming competitive and she says wilders victory last week gives hope to the rest of europe. dana and bill. >> bill: so jerry baker, "wall street journal" editor at large. good morning. we tried to explain what we think is going on there. maybe what it portends here. >> it started with donald trump and brexit when britain voted in 2016 ahead of the u.s. election to leave the europey own union. people have had enough of the elites driving policy in a particular direction creating a globalist initiative. they don't like the open borders, immigration. they don't like a lot of green policies you heard about. they don't like the sense the elites are in control of these countries and telling people what's good for them. you had a revolte with donald trump. you had it in italy as you just heard a few years ago with brexit and now the netherlands. the right wing in europe is advancing across the board. europeans the end to look at america and think we're kind of -- we don't like that rather brash american style of politics. actually they are embracing it increasingly and i think you'll see it spread further. >> dana: i think about the farmers in the netherlands who said we have had enough especially because based on my experience, people who are farming and taking care of land and producing, they understand how to do that and the government comes in and tries to tell them how to do it and there is a reaction. is that spreading now beyond medicine, farming, manufacturing, all of it? it seems like it is growing. will it grow also throughout asia? is that next? >> political culture is different in asia but you're right. the farming theme in the netherlands is important. that was a green initiative about the government telling people what crops they can grow and how they can grow them and what sort of materials they should use to do that. people have been farming for years and depend on that for a living and essentially put out of business by it. the other big thing in the netherlands that is important across europe is immigration. people -- in particular the levels of crime that you've seen not always associated with immigration but in many cases. another country to watch out for is sweden. it is rampant out of control gang warfare almost entirely by immigrants, many illegal immigrants. people have had enough. you saw it happen in ireland last week. we don't know exactly what happened. somebody was believed to be an immigrant attacked people at a school. this is going to be, i have think, the defining political issue of our time in the sense of taking our countries back. >> bill: closing borders, finland trying to do it with russia, too. henry kissinger, dead at the age of 100. "wall street journal" said henry kissinger' century. in u.s. secretary of state never achieved such celebrity in office at henry kissinger and no other one have been more criticized. critics are online today. what he was doing in the early 1970s was extraordinary. soviet union, nuclear war, china, vietnam war, all of that was happening at the same time. >> exactly. henry kissinger has critics and he would say he didn't get everything right and controversial things he did. the defining legacy of henry kissinger is that -- it is a great tribute to america. america's ability to produce extraordinarily talented people exactly at the right moment. america's great good fortune or great key to its success that henry kissinger was the critical foreign policy figure at the most critical time for the united states. in terms of bringing an end to the vietnam war, confronting the soviet union what it needed to do and the critical opening for china. if you think about those things, those things that happened, how she shaped the rest of the cold war and helped save america literally and save the west in the cold war. they were so important doing all those things at that time. it was -- henry kissinger was the architect of so much of that. he got some things wrong and have a lot of critics. but americans owe him a date of gratitude. >> dana: who is the henry kissinger of today? >> that's another very good question. >> dana: another topic for next tuesday. >> the great thing about this country the ability to produce -- sometimes it takes a bit of time and not work perfectly the first time but genius of producing people who rise to the occasion at the right moment and are exactly the right person for the right spot. >> bill: i hope you're right. >> i think it will happen again. >> bill: thanks for coming in. >> go -- yourself. is that clear? i hope it is. hey, bob, if you're in the audience. >> bill: this went on for a while and it was something else. elon musk with choice words for advertisers who have suspended their campaigns on x. what he also said about the future of that social media site. interesting stuff coming up here. >> dana: governors ron desantis and gavin newsom going toe-to-toe tonight. >> bill: aaron rodgers is back at practice. only three months since he tore his achilles. he is 39. could he take the field this season? the folks in the football world are asking that today. ♪ there's challenges, and i love overcoming challenges. ♪ when better money habits® content first started coming out, it expanded what i could do for special olympics athletes with developmental needs. thousands of bank of america employees like scott spend countless hours volunteering to teach people how to reach their financial goals. it felt good. it felt like i could take on the whole world. directv sports central brings your games, stats and scores together... and now you can get it without a satellite. one more reason to finally get rid of cable. but getting rid of the cable guy might not be as easy. oh yeah, touchback! visit directv.com for up to a $400 reward card. the ergo smart base from tempur-pedic automatically responds to snoring. so, no more hiding under your pillow. because this system actually detects snoring then adjusts to help reduce it. for a limited time, save up to $500 on select tempur-pedic adjustable mattress sets. honey, i think i heard something. ok. ♪ from christmas tree mats... to floorliners... cargo liners.... no drill mud flaps... seat protectors... and more... weathertech has the perfect holiday gift. honey, is everything ok? oh yeah. order at weathertech.com and don't forget weathertech gift cards. 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>> everyone is talking about this like it will be a fight, a slugfest, boxing match. really man-to-man, 9:00 p.m. tonight in georgia, atlanta suburb 20 miles to the north. divided city in a divided state. it will be the governor of florida versus the governor of california. sean hannity moderating, 90 minutes, no live audience. it will be a big picture debate about issues, how to govern the u.s., red state versus blue state. one unusual feature about this debate that's governor newsom. he is not a candidate. he is a surrogate for president biden perhaps positioning himself for an eventual run for president. as for governor desantis, many say he might be doing it to try to get a bump in the polls. >> he needs a spark going into iowa and new hampshire and believes if he can go toe-to-toe with one of the leading democrats in the country and a proper proponent about left leaning. >> governor newsom will attack florida's abortion law and try to make the claim desantis wants to put women in prison. governor desantis is likely to say governor newsom has made such a mess of california's economy that a million people have left the state in the past two years, many moving to florida. bill, back to you. >> bill: let's do it, right, steve? 9:00 in prime time. nice to see you, thanks. >> if you ended up with a newsom, they would have policies that would really accelerate the decline of this country. i think florida represents a model where we can reverse the decline and have an american revival. >> you don't like him? >> i don't like people that demonize other people or go after vulnerable communities and also don't like liars. >> dana: i have been looking forward to this for two months. so excited that it is happening. i'm looking forward to some substantive debate on topics where they will be able to have time to answer the questions. mary kathryn, what are you looking forward to tonight? >> i'm excited about this. one, because these are two people who can speak fluently about different visions for america. i think one of them is not a great vision and causes people to leave the state of california for the state of florida which has in migration in huge numbers. something that governor ron desantis will use against newsom. but even though i disagree with newsom i like that both guys are getting in the arena. we have two frontrunners in biden and trump right now who are not making an argument to the american people in an arena where their ideas can be tested in large part. biden occasionally takes a question, trump does rallies. they will face off to tough questions from each other and the moderator and i appreciate them going to voters and making the argument and excited to hear it. >> dana: dave, you are a one-person focus group for this. you left california and moved to florida and ron desantis is somebody that you think does a really great job. what are you looking at tonight? >> well look, the contrast between these two guys is absolutely staggering. exactly the fight america is having and needs to have. there is one guy, desantis, have truth, facts, economics, reality and policing and get of ride of wokeism and all those things on his side and another guy who i like to give the devil his due. i mean it literally. he is a slick salesman and that's all he is. everything gavin newsom touches turn to crap. i can't recommend anyone go to san francisco. he was once the mayor of san francisco and we know what happened to that place. california has lost a million people in two years and florida not only are they getting a huge bulk of the people first time republican voters like many of the people in my two companies who moved to florida with me, florida, when ron desantis became governor 4 1/2 years ago or so had 400,000 more democrats than republicans. it is now 500,000 more republicans than democrats. that's a 900,000 person swing. we're the freest state in the nation. everything that america is about is happening here the right way. everyone knows that's not what is happening in california. i hope desantis brings it and shows people what's what. >> dana: i think sean is a great interviewer. it will be wonderful. i will sit there with percy by my side, peter too, probably. also want to get to this. it is very interesting. i know both of you are on x, i am, too. that would be formerly twitter, not the drug. elon musk had a take yesterday with -- i just realized being on the five. we're not on x but we tweet a lot. elon musk had said that. >> if somebody will black bluely me with advertising and money, go bleep yourself. go bleep yourself. is that clear? i hope it is. hey, bob, if you're in the audience. >> let me ask you then. >> that's how you feel. don't advertise. >> dana: he is saying don't advertise. mary kathryn, what happens to x in the future. >> if everybody pulls out and it is -- i think he does unwise think and said unwise things and cops to that in part of this interview and apologizes for things he tweeted and said it was one of the more foolish things i've done. however, i do think there is merit to this idea of standing up and saying look, you can say sorry for certain things but you don't have to lay down for every bully that comes to your doorstep. he is good at this and dana white is also good at this and just granted both of them have a lot of resources in order to be good at it but what they have at their back and say to people absolutely not. i won't bend at every one of your requests. i think college administrators and college presidents would be better off if they took a little bit of that energy to their own students trying to bully them recently. >> dana: dave, final word. >> dana, elon is almost single handedly saving free speech in this country. we don't trust big tech or big government. in light of the events of the last two months since october 7th, there is one platform that is allowing people to exchange ideas freely. sometimes that can be a little pain in the butt when the bots get in there and mean people are on there. everyone who cares about the first amendment should stand by elon musk right now. >> dana: i will be watching on x what you think about the debate. >> i'm not on x right now. >> bill: it's early. >> dana: hemmer we're not sure at this point. thanks, guys. the stage is set. newsom versus desantis squaring off on fox news tonight moderated by sean hannity. tune in with all of us. >> if i leave, they win. if i leave, the bullies take place. this is bullying. >> bill: this is something else. happened just an hour ago. the new york republican george santos defending himself at a press conference that went on and on and faces the possibility of expulsion. will it happen? 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dial up your favorite app. people turning to tiktok for a medical question. the advice they receive will range from questionable to dangerous. douglas kennedy has that from new york city. what a story, douglas. what did you find out? >> at one point medical advice was for medical professionals. not anymore especially not on tiktok. >> we are rubbing cancer into our skin. >> pastureization is one reason people are lactose intolerant. >> five organs, five exercises to help you restore organ functions. >> giving medical advice is clicking record and post. >> i'm just trying to give out information that i feel is very beneficial. >> and the information can range from sticking garlic up your nose -- which is probably harmless. >> let's talk about the untold story of borax. >> swallowing borax can be deadly. more and more you guys are getting phone calls from people who are literally being poisoned by medical advice they get on tiktok. >> yes. people are doing that and getting in some cases very sick. >> kelly johnson is a doctor with the poison control center in washington, d.c. unfortunately you have people who want a quick fix and can't tell the truth from the false. >> some of those videos are very believable and look like they are completely accurate. unfortunately it can be hard to tell fact from fiction. >> tiktok says it tries to remove any video flagged as dangerous. there were hundreds with questionable medical advice including to avoid sunscreen. >> so toxic when it washes off our skin into the water it is killing fish eggs. >> advising new mothers to reject the vitamin k shot. >> these challenging viewers to drink a gallon of water a day leading to bad results for this users. >> my muscles are so weak. >> i'm seeing misinformation and disinformation on social media as a direct risk factor to people's health. >> this doctor is an epidemiologist at the university of illinois and has a blog that attempts to debunk erroneous medical posts. >> it is a whack-a-mole game. as soon as you push one down, another one will pop up. >> a fact that johnson calls a national health crisis. who obviously you will say people need to talk to their doctor. but people also need to exercise some discernment as well. >> that's right. we all need to do our own research. be careful about where we get it from. >> where we get it from, she says, often comes from people who are pushing products or some other profit motive. back to you, dana and bill. >> bill: something to watch. intriguing stuff. douglas kennedy in new york. thank you, sir. >> dana reads sports. >> dana: bill, i think we broke this story on monday. new york jets quarterback aaron rodgers getting one step closer to an early comeback. the four time mvp returned to the practice field yesterday 11 weeks after surgery to repair a torn achilles. he made drop backs, throwing to receivers and jogging. rogers, who turns 40 on saturday, is hoping to make his return on christmas eve against the washington commanders. a drop back is where you go -- you get the snap and then you drop back. >> bill: yes. i would look at the record. 4-7. he is 39. tore his achilles. if the jets aren't in the playoff picture, why do it? wait. >> dana: jets fans are probably thinking how could it get worse? >> bill: here is their schedule, right? at buffalo, miami, texas, these are good teams. cleveland. i'm just saying if they're not in it he may want to rest until next year and get fully healthy. last night outside of our door. check it out. this went on for some time. scenes of chaos at times. protestors on the streets of new york trying to derail the rockefeller center christmas tree lighting. it did not work. they don't like the war in gaza, they don't like israel. how did police respond? we'll show you. remember the young fan wrongly accused of wearing black face at a kansas city chiefs game? now he and his father are firing back. >> a lot of kids at school are getting excited but it is starting to get me a little nervous because if they go a little overboard it is a little scary. there once was a tree lovingly made to look real. so real, something magical happened. it helped create very real memories. balsam hill. ♪ the new subway mvp rewards earns you points for every order. this mvp uses it for free subs. you can use your points for anything. like free cookies. whoa, peyton. what — i'm not playing anymore. join now and get a free cookie when you buy a sub. >> bill: police arresting multiple people at a pro-palestinian rally in mid town manhattan last night. thousands had gathered to celebrate near biff at the annual christmas tree lighting at rockefeller center. former republican new york congressman lee zeldin in studio with us. just so viewers know at home, you should make it to new york for the holidays. everything is lit up on every corner. the tree lighting, i said thousands. it might be 10,000. it might be 20,000 or more. this is a big event in new york city. the police knew they would be out there and they showed up and when they had a chance to engage with each other, they did. who are these people, congressman? >> they are hamas sympathizers. after october 7th they were protesting before israel had even responded. and in the statements they put out they don't criticize hamas. they haven't criticized the kidnapping of innocent israeli citizens and americans. they didn't criticize beheadings of babies, the rape and torture of women. these protestors instantly, that weekend after we all woke up on october 7th and saw the images and stories coming out of israel, these people have been holding hamas's water. they dress like hamas terrorists some of them. use rhetoric, all of them, they use the same rhetoric you hear out of hamas. they are physically intimidating people. we see on college campuses where jewish students can't get from their dorm to the classroom without being bullied and intimidated. these are people in some cases, if they are not u.s. citizens and not permanent residents and here on visas if they aren't in the country legally, they should be removed. we don't need this here. >> dana: what do you know about how these are being organized and funded? >> that is a great question. and we have the house, we have gavels of that. being able to get financial records. we need to get to the bottom of it. i wouldn't ever expect a speaker pelosi and house democrat majority previously there to be asking those tough questions. i would love to see there to be more clarity here. there has been a lot of rumors over the course of years as to where funding of this effort comes from. we know on college campuses students for justice in palestinian has received foreign funding. money doesn't just come domestically. but no one should be funding this effort. there is a free speech right, whether you are a conservative or a liberal, we all have our own opinions, views, we're allowed to debate and disagree. but it crosses that line. i don't believe has first amendment protection, when you start terrorizeing a populous and physically intimidating and bullying them. one other piece, you have students going to faculty saying i feel threatened and they say go see a therapist. >> bill: every new station is not covering it. the way it played out with the jewish teacher in long island. some of them might be pro-hamas. i think it might be fair to say that they could be pro-hamas or anti-war, or pro-palestinian or anti-israeli, or they could be agitators on the left. the reason i mention that is because we're coming into an election year. you saw what happened the summer of 2020, right? there is a good chance, depending on how long this war goes on, that the agitators on the left could get inside these groups and we could see a repeat. >> i certainly agree with that insight. there is so much at stake in 2024 especially with the presidential race on the ballot. we didn't know going into 2020, we got hit with covid but then you had the blm riots, there is so much that deteriorated so quickly and so much got eroded. there was in the name of a pandemic changes to how people were able to cast ballots. i would say this. this would be my challenge in response to the point about whether or not they are pro-hamas. the people who were out there yesterday, by the way this doesn't sway public opinion. we aren't waking up this morning saying thank you, you've convinced us and changing our views of what we saw overseas. i would challenge these people to condemn hamas. if they don't want to be attached with what i just labeled them with, then they should be distancing themselves from what hamas is doing. >> bill: fair point. >> dana: they don't do it even at the leadership level or the u.n. thank you. nice to see you. children packing hospitals in china as a mysterious respiratory illness hits that country. is the outbreak coming here? 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