>> last minute snag delaying a deal. the temporary cease-fire expected to begin in the coming hours. qatar's foreign minister will give details any moment now. thank you for joining us. i'm griff jenkins. hay, julie. >> julie: i'm julie banderas. happy thanksgiving to you, griff. the agonizing wait continues for israeli families. they have spent six weeks hoping against hope that their loved ones will return home safely. >> griff: jeff paul kicks things off for us in southern israel. >> the israeli security forces here saying the first batch of hostages likely won't be coming out until friday at the earliest. it speaks to the complicated and dell indicate nature of the ongoing negotiations. because no hostages are coming out. no pause in the war especially for soldiers like the ones at the military base in southern israel. under the original agreement, between israel and hamas, they were going to probably have the first batch of hostages come out as soon as today. that would have been 10 to 12 people and more the following day totaling up to 50 women and children. now, israel would release 150 palestinian prisoners and agree to multiple pauses in the war. the temporary cease-fire allows aid to come into the civilians of gaza in desperate need of food, water and medical supplies as the war continues. negotiators in qatar say they're working to create the appropriate conditions for a pause and a swap of hostages and prisoners. idf says their mission in gaza to root out hamas will not come to an end. >> we are trying to connect the goals of the war so the pressure from the ground operation brings about the ability to also achieve the goal of this war, to create the conditions for the release of the abducted hostages. >> israeli prime minister benjamin netanyahu spoke a short time ago and says he is still hopeful the first group of hostages will be coming out soon. the first of many, he hopes, to eventually bring them all home. griff and julie. >> griff: jeff paul, thank you. >> close the door to my car and about 30 feet from me i seen something airborne. i first thought it was an airplane. looked like slow motion. i said my god, it's a car. a vehicle and it's flying through the air. he hit the concrete barrier. >> julie: fire car crash kills two people and forces the closure of multiple border crossings. investigators don't know what caused it yet. they say there is no sign of terrorism being involved. let's bring in scott, a former atf deputy assistant director for intelligence and former f.b.i. deputy director. let me go ahead and ask you my first question. first of all, what does this look like to you? it was a husband and wife barreling at mack ten speed toward the bridge. at first people were wondering if it was terrorism because it seemed suspicious. what's on your mind? >> good morning, julie. happy thanksgiving. when i first saw this, it took a little bit of time for the fog of war to lift but it was pretty apparent to me early on that this was not a vehicle born ied. not a car bomb, in other words. the damage just wasn't consistent with that. but you had an awful lot of fire and it was also pretty obvious when the good pictures came in the car disintegrated upon hitting that reinforced concrete. >> julie: it looks like an intentional act to me. it was a husband and wife. does anything come to mind in the onset of the investigation such as a murder/suicide or something different? >> so when you have an incident that's occurring on a government facility on the day that's very sensitive and the f.b.i. has already put out bulletins warning about this, the first thing that you are going to think is that it could be terrorism. you aren't wrong for thinking that but you also don't want to go into a scene pre-disposed thinking that it was something. you have to really let the evidence speak and i think once that car is gone through, once the mobile devices of these people are gone through, they already know who these people are, they knew it within a short amount of time, they can pretty quickly figure out if this was something that was potentially intentional or if it was just a horrible, horrible accident because the person was driving like a maniac. >> julie: you look at this and say hypothetically speaking had it been terror how do you prevent something like this? unlike, you know, rockets coming into the airspace, we have a missile defense system for example. when you have a car that could be packed with explosives barreling toward a bridge or any entry into the united states, how is it that you could even stop something like this? >> basically all you can do is have hard physical barriers. the facility that i used to work in, for instance, the terrorist explosive device analytical center we had substantial barriers. there are barriers on a military base. when you have a customs chec checkpoint, you are trying to get cars through as quickly as possible to not disrupt lives and commerce. only so much you can do. you have to have layered physical security to prevent this and don't forget, there have been incidents at borders before. you had the millennial bomber who was caught at a northern border. so people are on edge and they are trying to do their best to keep us all safe on a major holiday. >> julie: what does it tell you about travel on thanksgiving? tensions are very high in the country now with the anti-semitism that's been happening and the protesting all over the country. so something like this obviously has law enforcement on the lookout at the edge of their seats. what does it say about our nation's security and our travel and what people should be aware of when they head out today on thanksgiving? >> i just actually got off an airplane flight. out in arizona visiting family and it's very, very difficult. people are already stressed when they are flying but we shouldn't forget that behind the scenes, invisible to us as well as the visible security, you have a lot of men and women that work for dhs, work for state and local law enforcement and the justice department, my old agency, that are having their holidays pretty well messed up so they can keep everyone safe. it's not a riskless thing traveling nowadays and a very dangerous world as you pointed out. there are a lot of people trying to keep us safe so that we can all go home and have a turkey dinner with our friends when they can. >> julie: to be reminded of the fact that this is an isolated incident, of course, unfortunately overall everything has been going pretty smoothly on this thanksgiving so far. scott, thank you for talking to us. happy thanksgiving to you. >> thank you. >> griff: the deadly car explosion you were talking about at the u.s./canada borders and increase for calls for violence leading new york city to remain on high alert. security is extra tight at the annual macy's day thanksgiving parade where an anti-israel protest is expected to begin along the route in less than two hours. alexis mcadams is live in new york city for us. >> good morning. there are thousands of people out here already. check it out behind me in new york city in front of fox news headquarters. a lot of excitement as we wait to see the floats come by during the macy's thanksgiving day parade. along with that excitement there is still concern as massive crowds have law enforcement mixed in and remain on high alert. >> any measures you will see like uniformed officers on post on and around the parade route and other measures that you won't see. >> those preps for the 97th annual macy's day parade is done and time to see the floats go by. 12 marching bands from across the country will be here as the nypd remains on high alert . no specific threats to the parade but during this israel/hamas war it has created what federal authorities are calling a heightened threat environment. they want to keep everyone safe. a live look before the floats come by we show you the crowds. you can see there are lots of crowds lined up around the parade route in new york city. 3 1/2 million people will watch the parade in person along the 2 1/2 mile route. one planned protest in support of the palestinian people today. we are used to seeing that in new york city. it starts with dozens and climbs to the hundred. calling of people to show up and call for a cease-fire. the city is aware of it and prepared to handle it. watch. >> we won't tolerate any disruption. we're very clear on that. you aren't going to destroy property, you are not going to injure people. that's not going to happen in this city. but, you know, we are prepared to deal with a multitude of things taking place at one time. we are used to doing it. >> police department does it very well. you won't see some officers in plain clothes mixed in with the crowd. the idea is to keep everyone safe as we enjoy the thanksgiving day parade. >> griff: nobody does it better than the nypd. alexis, thank you. >> you can't trust hamas. you saw what they did on october 7th. it's a culture of death. i think they are enjoying the emotional blackmail they are inflicting upon the families and the entire nation of israel. >> julie: a temporary truce still up in the air. israel continues to root out hamas terrorists in gaza so could a pause to free hostages also help the terror group? we're getting new information and we'll bring it to you coming up. stay right there. thanksgiving kicks off the holiday shopping season. americans are feeling a disconnect when it comes to spending and the economy. that spells bad news for president biden. stay with us. >> i'm here in poland wishing my family and friends back in maine a happy holidays. released around 4:00 p.m. of the same day. they will be 13 in number, all women and children, and those hostages from the same families will be put together within the same patch. obviously every day will include a number of civilians as agreed. the total 50 within the four days. the communications that took place and the meetings that took place all through yesterday went on until early morning today with the egyptians and the parties of the conflict present here in doha. the meetings went very well and positive environment and the results, of course, was the implementation plan of the agreement which needed to be something that is concrete and ready to create a safe environment for the release of the hostages. this is what i have here information for you right now and i will be taking questions. >> speaking native language. >> julie: qatar's prime minister speaking live in doha trying to lay out the way the foreign minister is speaking about how they plan on laying out this hostage release. so basically it will go over a four-day period and start friday morning at 7:00 a.m. they will start with 13 women and children. total number of hostages qatar was behind facilitating this negotiation between israel and gaza. the first batch will be 13 women and children and then over the course of four days they will ultimately release all 50 hostages. in exchange for 150 palestinian prisoners. that is something that seems to be a bit uneven but nonetheless at least some hostages will be released and they're doing it in a slow trickle, i would assume, in order to make sure that gaza and hamas holds up their end of the deal. we'll continue to watch this breaking news as it happens. >> now we're under gaza's al-shifa hospital complex. the tunnels the israelis say hamas used to move weapons and fighters. the clay beneath the hospital is what hamas was digging through when they built these tunnels. >> julie: trey yengst with israeli troops getting an inside look at the complex look at tunnels underneath gaza. the tunnel system they found under the shifa hospital is just the tip of the iceberg. the idf's raid of the hospital facing intense scrutiny. idf rear admiral is responding to that. >> israeli military has faced criticism for raiding gaza's al-shifa hospital. with what you found was it worth it? >> it was a professional operation. we're now seven days here. not a single shot was fired inside the hospital hitting a doctor or a patient or a civilian, not one. >> julie: military officials say they found a weapons cache in an mri room and at least one car fully loaded with weapons they believe was designed to be part of the october 7th massacre. >> netanyahu is in between a rock and hard place here. he has to listen to the families. he has got to keep the pressure on hamas and he is trying to thread the needle here with this exchange. we know that hamas is going to rearm, refit, rest and try to figure out a new strategy. >> griff: an army general on the dangers of a cease-fire between israel and hamas. israelis are eagerly awaiting to hear whether their family members will be among the 50 hostages hamas releases. marine corps veteran and save our allies joins me now. chad, happy thanksgiving. good news for many of those anxious families. what do you make of what we're hearing from qatar's foreign minister there? >> any time that we will have hostages released it's good news. what everybody needs to realize and you reported it well, it isn't a peace deal to stop the war between israel and palestinian, a four day cease-fire to exchange hostages. 50 israelis, 150 palestinians. hamas is using this as an opportunity to restrategize. i don't think they really care about exchanging hostages. they want an opportunity for a pause to restrategize. israel can't allow hamas to call the shots in this negotiation. they don't have leverage unless netanyahu gives it to them. you can't let them restrategize for another attack. >> griff: here is john kirby talking a little bit about the hostages and mentioning that pause. take a listen here. >> in the next day or so we'll start to see them be reunited with their families. this deal will allow for a pause in the fighting for something like four days, maybe longer, we'll see. >> griff: what do you make of the video kirby selling to the american people this idea of the pause but as you point out, tactically from a military standpoint and with the end goal being the removal and eradication of hamas it makes it very complicated. >> yeah, look. i've been involved in combat fighting my whole life. one thing i know about combat is when you have the enemy on their heels, you don't let up and you don't really pressure. you want this thing to -- war is ugly, no one who has been in war wants war, if you do it, you do it to win. a lesson that i think our administration should learn. if we go to war, you go to war to win. any kind of pause in that pressure is not a good thing. it is a bad thing. more lives are going to be taken because of the fact that now you have the force of the enemy having a sense of strength and fighting back. i don't agree with him and i don't agree with kirby on much but i don't agree with him on that. you have to keep pressure on hamas to get them back down. >> griff: thank you for your service. the u.s. is not drawn into this. we have carrier strike groups in the neighborhood. but one column in the "wall street journal" caught our eyes here and i will put it up for you. the headline is the hostage deal means israel is fighting the clock. israel needs time to root out hamas. the longer the war goes on the more likely it is to spiral into a regional conflict drawing in the u.s. how concerned are you that america gets brought into this? >> well, this is why america -- israel is our greatest ally in the middle east. we have to support them. israel is capable of handling this with the right support and that's why it is important that this isn't drawn out and to have someone like john kirby saying that, you know, this is a good thing for four days. you don't want it to drag out. for some reason this administration is choosing to let things drag out. ukraine is a great example. ukraine could be over in a week or two weeks but they want it to drag out. if we let this thing drag out in the middle east, yeah, it could drag the united states into not just supporting israel but into a war. we see rockets being shot at u.s. warships right now. >> griff:, thank you. we want to listen to the foreign minister speaking again about the hostages in qatar. >> we expect it to happen also on the israeli side. >> tomorrow? you are expecting a release tomorrow? >> as a result of the release of hostages. >> thank you. >> thank you. i wanted to ask about the red cross, red crescent. will they be accompanying the hostages out or throughout gaza or are they meeting them at the edge of gaza? and will they be able to visit the hostages that aren't being released? that was being discussed. just to follow on becky's question, have specific evacuation routes been set and you can't talk about them and without compromising and without sharing too much detail will hostages be leaving directly into israel or potentially through rafah and then home to israel? >> regarding the red cross and red crescent, they have been designated to receive the hostages. i can't discuss the details of how it will happen or where they will take them. but as i said they are part of the operation that is run from here in doha and they will take the responsibility there and we appreciate all the work they are doing and that they are taking a risk with their own staff but they will be take a part of doing the hostages. i can't get into the details of that or where they will be leaving or where they will be coming out. i think a lot of things on the ground will affect this. the important thing is that we maintain a very key line of communication with everybody through the operation to make sure that the environment which the hostage transfer will happen will be safe and guarantee the safety to get them to their families. i don't have an update on this right now, i'm sorry. [speaking native language] >> [speaking native language] >> griff: you've been listening to the spokesman for qatar's foreign minister there giving us more details of the hostage release learning that the red crescent, which is the red cross, will receive them. no answers on whether or not red cross would be able to visit some of the other hostages not being released but we do know at least 13 expected to be released at midnight our time, 7:00 a.m. local there. we'll bring you more as we get it. julie. >> julie: if you stop at the atm for cash during your holiday shopping, many of us will do that, police are warning you, listen to this to be on the lookout for what they are calling bank juging robberies when thieves follow a person who has made a large withdrawal while another crook is at the ready to steal the cash. christina coleman is live in the los angeles bureau with what you need to know. >> it's a very disturbing trend. police say bank juging incidents are on the rise in southern california. organized groups of thieves follow people leaving banks with large amounts of cash, find a way to distract them and steal their purse, wallet or other belongings. a woman was robbed of $20,000 she had just withdrawn from a local bank to purchase a new home. they say a group of thieves followed her from the bank to a mall in riverside county southeast of l.a. according to officers one of the thieves placed a $5 bill behind the car and when she went to look someone from the group of thieves stole her purse from the front seat of her car. police are searching for the suspects. the city of you are vine alone in orange county there has been at least 24 bank juging incidents this year. >> even when you are at an atm, we just had made an arrest last week of two -- of these eastern europey an criminals that were putting skimming devices on atms and they got out of two victims over $10,000. so they are watching you. >> organized retail crime a big problem in california especially during the holidays. governor newsom recently announced the state will invest over $267 million to increase arrests and prosecutions for organized retail crime throughout california. some police officers say this state has soft on crime policies and they don't help. >> you can pour as much money as you want into this problem, but if there is no consequences for when you are arresting these people, then you are just going to be wasting that money. we're seeing a lot of criminals that are on parole, probation, some type of supervised release that keep reoffending. >> if you are out shopping, keep your head on a swivel. don't keep looking at your phone. be aware of your surroundings and call police if you think you are being followed. >> julie: we'll go back to the qatar foreign ministry spokesperson speaking now back in english. we'll listen in on the hostage deal between israel and hamas. >> the transfer as safe as possible for all parties. you have to remember this is a war zone and we need to make sure, this is why the discussions yesterday went until early this morning to make sure the executive plan for the implementation of this agreement trouble shoots any possible safeguards against any possible problems within the release itself. >> releases will be happening at 4:00 p.m. each day? >> i only have the timing for the first day and the number for the first day. the lists that were exchanged today were the lists for the fifth day. >> cnn. what would constitute a break in this truce, a breaking of this truce? we're talking about a truce on the ground and as i understand it in the air. can you just describe what will be seen as a breakdown in that? >> so i don't think i can get into the technicalities technically on the ground, of course. this is to be handled by the people who are there on the ground. what i can tell you is the agreement is about full cessation of hostilities within the four days. any resumptions of hostilities of any kind would be a breach. i think it is very important lines of communication remain open so any possible breach, however it is defined, is communicated immediately to both sides and there is a way to walk back from it and continue with it. >> second question here. can you just give us some sense about why we have seen delays? has it been that hamas or israel has made any further demands further to what was in the proposal that was agreed upon 24 hours ago? are you expecting any further delays? >> we are hoping that we don't see any delays. i think we have reached a point now where everything is in place and we are ready to go on the ground so we're hopeful that, as i said, by 7:00 a.m. tomorrow everything will start and we'll have the humanitarian pause. when it comes to the -- what were the reasons, i can tell you the discussions over the details and schematics of how it will happen were very difficult and detailed to make sure that nothing would cause harm in the process of getting the hostages out but also the parameters of the agreement are agreed upon in the operational sense between both sides. that took a lot of discussions between both sides but we're happy to report the discussions have been in a positive environment where both sides showed commitment to the agreement itself. >> any further demands? >> i am not aware of any further demands that resulted in the delay but as i told you, the agreement is still as it stands and what is agreed upon from day one. >> thank you. [inaudible question]. [speaking in native language] [answering in native language] ] continuing to speak in native language] [question in native language] >> julie: that's the spokesperson for qatar's foreign minister and essentially they are announcing the release, the hostage release program and the way they will be rolling this out. it will be going on over the course of four days. they will start with 13 women and children. those released hostages will occur at 9:00 a.m. eastern time. the truce begins at midnight. and so hopefully this will go off without a hitch. a cease-fire between israel and hamas so far we're hoping that will actually hold in order for the hostages to be released and hopefully more will follow. in exchange, again, 150 palestinian prisoners will be released for these hostages and hopefully will be just the beginning of the 240 hostages total taken by hamas and held captive now in gaza. >> you are a terrorist and you support terrorism. >> listen, go. >> you support terrorism. you killed 4,000 palestinian kids. it wasn't enough. it wasn't enough. >> griff: a former obama advisor is charged with a hate crime. the incident happened earlier this month. the video has gone viral. yesterday police arrested him, the former national security council official under president obama. he was charged with aggravated harassment and stalking. he was also fired from his current job in a manhattan lobbying firm. >> julie: california passing a bill requiring schools to teach students just how to spot fake news, yes, this is actually being taught in our nation's schools. the bill's democratic sponsor says it will integrate media literacy instruction into the four core subjects that all students learn from kindergarten through 12th grade. are you nodding your head yet? you should be. let's bring in senator j.d. vance, republican from ohio. if this isn't an infringement on free speech i don't know what is. this is basically liberal educators trying to lean our young educated youth in the direction that would essentially block out anything that they might disagree with. >> the heart of the big debate in the country now. how much should parents control the education of the kids. i think parents should have complete control over the education of their kids. they hand their kids to the school system knowing the school system is going to educate their children, teach them good values, not brainwash them. unfortunately when you have educators who are effectively forcing students to believe certain things, to say certain things, projecting their own values onto these little kids it destroys trust in the education system. but we also know it turns out a generation of americans who don't like their country. we were listening to the press conference about the hostage release and we're praying it goes through. it occurs to me as we watch these terrible protests all over the country where you have american college students saying things supporting the hamas terrorists. not just saying we support the palestinians but saying genocidal chants like from the river to the sea. when you see people saying these things you have to ask yourself how did american children ever get so brain washed in the first place? unfortunately we have to start asking tough questions about our education system. that's a big part of the answer. >> julie: supporters of the bill include democratic governor newsom. no surprise. there is a map. basically showing the states that are mandating media literacy in schools. we can put it on the screen for you. it is california, obviously, delaware, illinois, and new jersey. this is just the beginning because you know other states will follow suit. we already have this woke rhetoric being taught to the classroom jamming ideologies down the throats of young people supposed to be learning history, math, reading. where does this fight in the classroom setting? >> well, it shouldn't fit at all. of course, we know that as the extreme progressivism of our school system has increased. the actual literacy and math skills of the kids have decreased. if you look at how we compare on all these international metrics, we used to have the smartest and best-prepared school system in the world. now you have american children getting 20th, 30th, 40th in math and reading. if you think about how we actually develop the skill, the technologies, the economic might and yes, of course, the defense technology to defend our country over the next generation, it comes from having the smartest people in your country. we increasingly have a school system that seems more interested in driving a certain set of ideas into our kids, a certain set of ideologies rather than preparing them for the world and making sure they are smart. crazy stuff but we see the consequences every single day. we have a lot of chinese kids in china right now who are learning calculus in the third grade. we have a lot of american kids learning to check their white privilege. who will win the war of the future is not a big mystery. >> julie: newsom claims many young people can't tell the difference between ads and new stories. how about common sense and forming your own opinions, that's what we should be teaching our children. thank you and happy thanksgiving. >> griff: president biden's disapproval hitting new highs in recent polls. voters are really down on him when it comes to the economy. americans are still spending strong. seems like the white house has a messaging problem. can it fit the disconnect? 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this is really just as an anecdote i went to the grocery store with my older daughter, we bought a turkey, eggs, milk, stuffing, potatoes. i felt like i got mowed over. the indicators suggest that prices are down a little bit. julian are we better or worse off? >> well, griff, this is first of all happy thanksgiving to you and your viewers, thank you for having me on. this is the big disconnect that's going on between the elites on the democratic side and voters. the beltway elites and the white house are saying let's go out and campaign on bidenomics. we've got this huge investment in green energy, gdp is up in the third quarter, and inflation isn't as bad as it used to be. that's our message. that's the wrong message. the reality is, is that most voters feel this economy is not doing well and why is that? well, it is because most voters have actually lost real income because of inflation. and that's the reality that they are looking at. that inflation was accelerated, at least in part, by white house bureaucrats, economic bureaucrats who pushed the american rescue plan, which helped fuel inflation. you add the inflation on top of interest rates and most voters feel whatever you want to talk about statistics and all these indicators, which voters don't pay attention to. the day-to-day reality for most voters is that the economy has gotten worse and most people have lost money under the biden economy. so it's the wrong message and i hate to say this, i'm a democrat. i voted for biden. it is the wrong messenger. joe biden has had a very laudable career but he is not a guy that can go out on the lectern and sell a message very persuasively. we've all seen evidence of that. the democrats have got to sell something different because this -- all of this spells trouble. most democrats will come on and skew the talking points but this is the reality that most democrats are not willing to recognize today. >> griff: you will ruin your reputation, not selling bidenomics very well. julian raises an honest and great point. that is president biden is failing to sell bidenomics and as julian points out nobody is feeling the positive benefits of what statistics show. the latest sienna poll on the disapproval on who da do a better job. biden 37%, trump, 59%. matt, is that a negative reflection of biden or do people remember the days before, really, the pandemic when things were better and we weren't in the situation we're in now? >> i think it's a little bit of both. happy thanksgiving to you and julian and audience. they are trying to put lipstick on a pig, this economy. the american people just are not buying it at all. look, every time they go out and talk about it, they are actually showing that they are in total disconnect with normal people. they need to figure out a different message. it will be an anti-tracheally message. the problem is most people give trump much more credit for a better economy and better four years as president economically and on the world stage and just about every other indicator. so the white house has a big problem, julian hit it on the head. a message and messenger problem. the other problem is kamala harris who every time she goes out commits a gaffe or two. they have to figure out a strategy real quick. the numbers have them so far under water it is getting to a point where i don't know if they can catch up. >> griff: we have to leave it there on a busy news day on thanksgiving. we've come together, talked politics at thanksgiving and no one is throwing anything. gentlemen, thank you very much. have a great day. >> julie: giving thanks and giving back. one marine veteran who almost lost it all on thanksgiving day is raising awareness of food insecurity facing the nation's veterans. gabe will be talking to us about this very important cause coming up next. ♪ they say seeing is believing, but with stearns & foster, that's only part of the story. we handcraft every stearns & foster using the finest materials, like indulgent memory foam, and ultra-conforming intellicoils, for a beautiful mattress and indescribable comfort every single night. stearns & foster. what comfort should be. for a limited time, bring home incredible comfort with savings up to $800 on select adjustable mattress sets. learn more at stearnsandfoster.com. if your moderate to severe crohn's disease or ulcerative colitis symptoms are stopping you in your tracks... choose stelara® from the start... and move toward relief after the first dose... with injections every two months. stelara® may increase your risk of infections, some serious, and cancer. before treatment, get tested for tb. tell your doctor if you have an infection, flu-like symptoms, sores, new skin growths, have had cancer, or if you need a vaccine. pres, a rare, potentially fatal brain condition, may be possible. some serious allergic reactions and lung inflammation can occur. feel unstoppable. ask your doctor how lasting remission can start with stelara®. janssen can help you explore cost support options. >> julie: a new study finding 1.4 million veterans are classified as food insecure. less than 5% of those vets are enrolled in food stamp programs. gabe martinez lost both legs in afghanistan on thanksgiving day 13 years ago. he is looking to change that. he is joining the fund to provide food and basic assistance to our nations heroes. he joins us now to talk about this great cause and first just want to say happy thanksgiving to you and thank you so much for your service. >> happy thanksgiving. >> julie: why the high number of veterans not enrolled in the food stamp program? that's surprising to me? >> surprising to me, too. service members coming back with all sorts of injuries, physical, psychological, they have something that is kind of a hurdle. and when you come out and you are such an active, mission-driven person and you lose that a lot of things can affect you. it is hard to say what's causing that issue with each and every veteran. the struggle has been there and always be there which is why people like this fund will always have that mission as well. >> julie: veterans versus non-veterans enrolled in snap ages 70 and above. veterans 29%. non-veterans 39%. disabled veterans, 45% and non-vets 54%. it just seems like somebody is dropping the ball. why aren't these families and these brave men and women, these heroes being looked after after they get out of the military and after they've been injured and served and after they've made the most ultimate sacrifice like yourself? it seems the follow-up and responsibility to take care of our vets is falling to the wayside. >> you are absolutely right. the reason is hard to pinpoint. i would say the first thing is lack of resource -- not lack of resources but lack of knowing about the resources. our government has always had a hurdle. our government it's historically been having issues with serving the veterans in this way which is why there is such a great need for organizations such as semper fi and america's fund. when we can't count on the government or something else we can always count on the great human beings that run these nonprofits. so semper fi america's fund have become to successful, unfortunately, because of such a great need. >> julie: there is a great need and i commend you and those that are working on this to make this happen. especially on thanksgiving day, obviously a very significant and troubling anniversary for you. i think you are doing really amazing work. semper fi and america's fund in 2023. the food and basic assistance needs rose 44%. inflation has to have a use damper for all of this. assisted veterans and military members, put it on the screen. 2,100 first time recipients this year. 2,100 first time recipients is a big number but it could be bigger. funds.org/match is where you can assist. your final thoughts on the need. >> well, as you pointed out, the match. as we stated, there is such a huge need and such a huge need not only for the fund but to serve these veterans and other great people such as other foundations from now until the end of the year are matching dollar for dollar. >> julie: i have to cut you off, we have a hard break. thank you very much. we'll be right back. as someone living with type 2 diabetes, i want to keep it real and talk about some risks. with type 2 diabetes you have up to 4 times greater risk of stroke, heart attack, or death. even at your a1c goal, you're still at risk ...which if ignored could bring you here... ...may put you in one of those... ...or even worse. too much? 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