everyone welcome to "sunday morning futures." i'm maria bartiromo. thanks so much for joining us this morning. today, walking on egg shells joe biden fresh off of his meeting with president meeting with xi jinping steering clear with confrontation with the chinese leader failing to mention the surveillance balloon and china support and propaganda for russia and iran coming up arkansas senator tom cotton on biden walk in the garden with china's dictator and other foreign policies putting america in danger. as chinese nationals flood into america, 7,000 chinese nationals apprehended at the border at america port of entry in account alone four star general jack keane an wars across the world plus a break down in standards and conduct as rumors fly of a near fistfight in the halls of congress. california congressman and former speaker of the house kevin mccarthy clears up the questions this morning. then, foreigners flooding into as wide open border deteriorating and alejandro mayorkas follows motion to impeach and margery taylor green to remove homeland security over dereliction of duty over making it safe and lieutenant christopher only the impact of 7 million apprehensions on joe biden's watch. as former president trump makes visit to the border today. it is all right here right now on "sunday morning futures." ♪ ♪ we begin this sunday morning with fallout over president biden meeting last week with chinese president xi jinping. in the san francisco bay area, amidst a war that u.s. is facing over prop propaganda and misinformation from china. one more issue joe biden failed to raise with the chinese dictator while israel efforts a ground man to man fight in gaza chinese communist party is behind a different kind of war with america a propaganda one used tiktok state control media to spew out hate for israel and attacks on america helping to spark massive pro-palestinian protests across the country. in fact, a letter allegedly written by osama bin laden in 2002 went viral last week justifying his 9/11 attack on america which killed 3,000 americans. with influencers posting sympathetic messages saying that the founder of al qaeda maid valid points according to the institute for strategic dialogue 41 of the videos had over 6.9 million views on tiktok. tiktok also coming under fire and scrutiny for allowing pro-palestinian posts to trend while suppressing pro-israel lee posts. none of this, of course, came up during a reported four-hour meeting which included a walk through a garden for xi and joe. the white house claims that two leaders agreed to restart communications between their militaries. while china would help to, quote, curb the flow of deadly fentanyl into america and in return, u.s. is lifting sanctions on the company's involved in surveillance and human rights abuses in xinjiang, they get sanction relief and u.s. gets a promise likely undeliverable also get pummeled on social media there's also no evidence that the commander in chief confronted xi over origins of covid-19 that killed more than 1 million american or coverup that followed nor the spy balloon which china sent to travel over the continental united states and linger above our military installations. here's xi jinping on wednesday. >> war -- china is ready to be a partner and friend of the united states. fundamental principles that we follow in handling china u.s. relations are mutual respect, peaceful assistance, and wing, wing corporation. >> yes we'll be watching thawfl all of this while in washington subpoenas are going out to biden family members and associates over the house oversight committees allegations of influence peddling potential bribery by joe biden and family while doing deals with foreigners in countries across the world including china. while joe was vice president -- joining me right now with more on all of this and sngd morning future exclusive is arkansas senator tom cotton he sits on senate intelligence committee and senate arm service committee senator thanks so much for joining us today. >> thank you maria it is good to be back on with you. >> i want to get your assessment between joe biden and xi jinping and also on this prop propagandr do you agree with that? >> very much so maria. first off there's a lot we still don't know about the summit you outlined some of the initial obvious problems is that we gave concrete concessions to china like lifting sanctions against entities and persons involved in genocide against religious and ethnic minorities in china. china only gave us promises for instance promise to stop shipping precursor chemicals for fentanyl to mexico that's as valuable as xi jinping promises to boss barack obama that china would stop cyberattacks or wouldn't put rockets and missiles on islands they built in the south china sea. i'm also worried just about overall misdemeanor and attitude that joe biden had at that summit. it's one thing to meet with our communist adversaries that we expect our leaders to do i do that on occasion on trips around world and another thing for joe biden to say it was an honor and pleasure to welcome a communist dictator like xi jinping to america that's the thing ronald reagan would have said when he brought gorbachev to the white house and obsession is some fleeting climate change deal with china but you didn't have representatives of the department of defense or intelligence agencies at a high level. so worry very much about the mood music that joe biden was trying to set at this summit and the signals that will sending xi jinping as he takes the measure of a man he may have to face off against some time in the near future in a conflict over taiwan. so i ask for tiktok -- i've -- long said that we should ban tiktok and i think that last few weeks have shown why it is so urgent that we ban it. it is not just that it puts data privacy security of americans at risk but now it's turned into a prop propaganda machine for chinese communist a good rule of thumb if we wouldn't have let communist russia do it we shopght let china do it now because you've seen china stoke these anti-semitic pro-hamas rallies you even mention how tiktok boosted videos saying that osama bin laden had a point about attacking america on 9/11 just imagine what tiktok would do if we ever came to blows with china over taiwan. so if congress passes -- a major aid bill next month for ukraine, and israel and taiwan, to secure our border we should also include a flat out ban on tiktok in america as well. maria: is it not extraordinary you're calling for flat out ban and governors across country banning tiktok certainly from their state government of using but at the same time joe biden and the democrats want to use tiktok for their campaigning? for the upcoming election -- >> yeah. maria it is not just a governor but joe biden banned it we passed legislation last year that banned tiktok on u.s. government devices. you have joe biden's campaign is now thinking apparently about going on to tiktok so just think about that. you have all of these senior aids at the white house who carry two phones one government phone, on which they can't download tiktok and one personal campaign phone. in which they'll be obsessively checking tiktok to look at joe biden's campaign account this is probably result in part from joe biden's polling collapse especially among young voters or other core democratic constituent cities that campaign is desperate to do anything even use a chinese prop propaganda ao try to offset joe biden's decline in the polls. joe biden campaign shouldn't do it and president biden should sign a total ban of tiktok into law next month. maria: i mean, the issues that you raise are so important in terms of that mood music as you put it around the xi-joe meeting nobody from the defense department sitting at that table even as u.s. troops and our bases have been attacked 60 times -- just in the last few weeks, what should be the response here again, no issue around this brought up. even as china supports iran and russia. >> yeah. maria it is a good point that what you've seen with tiktok over the last few days -- make it is clear that tiktok is not just going to be used to promote communist china but to undermine the united states and our friends at every turn. it's going to happen in israel happening here at home as well. and iran has attacked american forces more than 60 times in just the last month that makes more than 125 times since joe biden took office. but in the last month alone, more than 60 times we've only hit back three times. we've only hit back against sites that are either empty or only has iran's proxies not for instance, revolutionary guard core shock troops. obviously, this is doing nothing to scare or deter ayatollah only emboldening them because after every one of those three strikes, they've only hit back harder against our troops. we're going to have a mass casualty attack against the united states forces in the middle east. and unless president biden scares the ayatollah straight and the only way to do that is to target what they hold most dear -- for instance, when ronald reagan sank half of iran's navy in they had struck u.s. navy vessel or donald trump killed terrorist master mind in iraq in 2020 until we target iran's own people and assets, the ayatollahs will not be scared of killing americans. maria: why is this president so soft on our adversaries, senator? >> well, i think joe biden has been wrong about every nearly every major foreign policy and national security decision going back now 50 years when -- barack obama secretary of defense said about that him ten years ago so add another ten years he's consistently appeased conciliated granted one side of concessions because of his bad judgment and ideological aversion to american strength and confidence. i also think you have to question whether or not joe biden is concerned about his ties to a country like communist china it is undisputed pack that biden family has earned millions maybe tens of millions of dollars from communist china linked enterprises and also from other countries all around the world so in addition to joe biden's ideological weakness, i think we also have legitimate questions that need to be answered about whether joe biden is compromised by his families dealings with some of these american adversaries. maria: which is why i ask the question often what does beijing have on joe biden? we have heard, obviously, from the house oversight committee they are sending subpoenas out right now. for hunter biden and family associates, how did they get away with accepting millions of dollars and setting up 20 shell companies to confuse how money is moving ultimately landing in biden family accounts, how are they getting away with that while joe biden was vice president? >> well, i think there wasn't much scrutiny especially during times in which the congress was in democratic handle also i think that many people just didn't believe that a sitting vice president could be so reckless now, of course, this doesn't just happen eight years of his vice presidency it whatted in his decades in the u.s. senate as well and it wasn't just his son but entire biden family has been enriching itself on public office for decades if they did that in the senate and it was in the vice presidency do we think they would stop when he held highest office in the land? i commend house for this investigation. i hope that they get to answer sooner rather than later. because the american people deserve to know exactly what joe biden's family was doing when he was in the -- when he was vice president, and perhaps what they're still doing while he's president. maria: by the way, we don't know if it is still going on because we don't know who is buying hunter biden's art. who is paying millions or hundreds of thousands of dollars for this art from hunter biden is that one to be helicoptering this influence peddling? >> i think it is safe to say it is not art connoisseurs with exquisite taste and who is paying for finger painting it is family and joe biden did it for decades in the senate and eight years as vice president do we really think they would stop when he got the most powerful office in the land? maria: senator thank you we're going to be watching your effortses to ban tiktok in coming week we appreciate your time. thank you, sir. >> thank you maria happy thanksgiving. maria: to you happy thanksgiving house speak or republican congressman mike johnson works across the aisle with democrats to pass another short-term spending bill to keep the federal government open. which cost my next guest the gavel when he worked to avoid a government shutdown in november former speaker of the house kevin mccarthy on that and latest in the impeachment latest in the impeachment inquiry into president biden, stay with us.ca he's next.'s ality eye exam starting at just $79.95. the exam alone is worth at least 59 bucks. i can see from your expression that you find that shocking. and you're actually speechless. ...aaaaaaaaand, you don't have ears. two pairs and a free exam for just $79.95. book an exam today at americasbest.com. it's true, though - you won't overpay for glasses if you shop at america's best. get help reaching your goals with j.p. morgan wealth plan, a digital money coach in the chase mobile® app. use it to set and track your goals, big and small... and see how changes you make today... could help put them within reach. from your first big move to retiring poolside - and the other goals along the way. wealth plan can help get you there. ♪ j.p. morgan wealth management. c'mon, we're right there. c'mon baby. it's the only we need. go, go, go, go! ah! touchdown baby! -touchdown! are your neighbors watching the same game? 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[inaudible conversations] >> i sat there and reporter said it right there. what kind of chicken move is that? you're pathetic, man. maria: well that is an audio recording courtesy of npr of tennessee congressman tim burr cheat accusing former house speaker kevin mccarthy of elbowing him in the back and hallway of the capitol. following the alleged incident florida congressman matt gaetz made an ethics complaint against mccarthy saying, quote, i myself have been a victim of outrageous conduct on the house floor as well but nothing like an open public assault on a member. committed by another member the rot starts at the top said gaetz they're two of the eight house republicans who sided with all democrats to oust kevin mccarthy as speaker after he led house in passing short-term spending bill in september. now, this past tuesday under leadership of new house speaker mike johnson house passed yet another short-term spending bill with virtually the same voting result as the one mccarthy had that led him to losing the gavel. "the wall street journal" editorial board wrote on wednesday meet new speak or same as the old speaker. joining me right now in the sunday morning future exclusive is former speaker of the house congressman kevin mccarthy mr. speaker great to have you this morning thanks very much for being here. >> thank you maria. maria: did you elbow tim burr cheat in the ribs or back? >> not at all we were in a conference you have press all standing there walking out talking to other members and it just don't take my word for it but members next to me and behind me if anybody got bumped it was not intentional. just a crowded hallway where everybody is walking out at one time. and so -- no. it's -- nobody got punched nobody got hit. some people want to make press out of nothing but that's exactly what transpired. maria: you think he's just making it up then? >> no. look if somebody got bumped because of a narrow hallway it happens it was not intentional i know no one got punched in the process. you can talk to the members who were behind me around me, and everywhere else so -- maria: let me ask you a question about business at hand right here -- speaker mccarthy because i know that last week it got heated on the floor also we have some sound from chip roy i want to play that for you and get your reaction to the business today in the house. watch. >> one thing -- i want my republican colleagues to give me one thing. one -- that i can go campaign on and say we did. one! anybody sitting in the complex if you want to come down to the floor and come explain to me one material meaningful, significant thing that republican majority has done besides well -- i guess it is not as bad as the democrats. maria: what do you say? what do you say congressman mccarthy what are republicans doing right now? yep. >> i wish i was there because i would have gone to the floor and told chip a number of things we cut $2 trillion. we got work requirements we got reform to something we haven't done in 40 years if we stopped any irs new agents from being hired this year in 20 billion going into the future. you know what else we transpired we made bills actually have to come through committee we made sure that members had to show up to go to work we passed the parents bill of rights. we passed bill that makes us energy independent we passed most conservative border security bill that we've ever done in the process it is actually if you took it up to august report would be between this congress and when the democrats had majority in the last congress in the ?ats and house more bills passed and signed into law one of the most progressive congresses so unfortunately there are a few members that have stopped us from being able to pass appropriation bills there are some members that seem they want to be in the minority instead of being majority. but this congress has taken on from a border security, from accountability in government and oversight from stopping we stop the pandemic, we've made sure those in the military didn't get kicked out because they didn't want to take the vaccine based upon their own -- religious beliefs. there are a number of things and holding this white house accountable. i would have gone on and on on the floor to say exactly what we've done. week after week after week -- maria: yeah it is a great point you also created a path for an impeachment inquiry given the evidence that you were able to uncover on all of the money that biden family has taken in and you created a commission to study china. communist china and created a -- a group to look at the weaponization of government. i want to get your take on where this impeachment inquiry is now. >> yeah but you made two good point here the select committee on china just did on a chinese lab in the central california -- we just did the investigation where the cdc did they have ebola others inside this lab we've looked at going after the farm land that chinese have been buying around our bases. but you raise a good point no one in america would have known that president biden has lied. that they did receive money from china. that yeah, he did get involved in the business dealings. e o cafe his son got a new porsche and 3 million sent to him we have systemically followed every place facts have taken us each and every day and now it is moved even closer because now -- we've got the subpoenas going into get the bank statements we found all of this shell companies no one knew about prier -- this is important so week after week holding government accountable, speaking up for parents with a parents bill of rights securing our border with democrats continue to fight us on making us energy independent, cutting spending $2 trillion largest cut in american history. work requirements, something that democrats said was a red line ending the pandemic, remember when the democrats in d.c. tried to decriminalize when the president said he even veto it at 170 democrats voted against it we put that into law and holding government accountable making our economy stronger and actually securing and rebuilding our military. we added to the spending in our military that is needed and actually standing up for china creating a select committee on china. maria: you've been -- very strong the people want more you know that. they want more than committeings and toipght ask you about january 6th because the videos of january th are being released you started it. you created a portal to come out with the videos now mike johnson has -- started to release more from the camera footage have you watched the tapes tell me what you can say about that horrible day from those videos that you watched. >> well it was a horrible day and one thing i have found is we want to transparency, so when we took the majority first thing i did was make sure with tapes become under responsibility of house administration. what we found was january 6th comet lied to us that there was thousands of more hours of tape and the first thing i want to make sure is anybody who was in jail had the right to defense was able to see tapes that was a priority defense was able to go through those we started bringing press and been able to see it and building portal every time press looked at something and will you it the public was able to get it that's being very -- done a tremendous job congressman from georgia walking through this remember they accuse him of something that's not true the january 6th committee and tapes actually -- proved that it was not true that he wasn't giving tours inside. and that's really what drove this, and more tapes are going forward in the speaker is doing johnson is doing a tremendous job with that adding more and more but 44,000 hours of this so you have to put it all out there. maria: i want to be specific there are questioning regarding fbi informants that were in trump clothing -- around the capitol on that day throughout the crowd do you have any insights for us rargd roles in the events the fbi's role? >> i personally don't. that's the committee -- i would make sure to go look at that and see all of that and get reform of mental health legislation in close to three decades. rosalynn carter also made sure to tend to the more traditional duties of her job as first lady and mother to the carter's daughter, amy. she insisted amy go to public school in washington, d.c, and she began what is now normal for all first ladies, a staff, an office in the east wing of the white house. most of mrs. carter's work has been done since she and her husband left washington after losing the 1980 election to ronald reagan. she spent over 20 years on the board of the carter foundation in atlanta, and both she and her husband worked on building houses for habitat for humanity . there is nothing more important, she said, than a good, safe, secure home. when president carter continued to travel in the years after his presidency, rosalynn carter went along with her husband, visiting china in 2010, meeting with former palestinian president yasser arafat in 1990 and attending the democratic national convention in new york in 1992. rosalynn carter also continued to spend time in washington meeting with her successor as she was one of several women family members of past presidents who were honored by first lady michelle obama at a mother's day event at the white house in 2010. in her later years, rosalynn joined her husband in his work for the carter center. they assisted with international conflict resolution and observed elections such as the historic referendum for south sudan in 2011. they also focused on health programs fighting to prevent and eliminate neglected tropical diseases like guinea worm and river blindness. through it all, rosalynn encouraged her husband through his brain cancer battle and recovery. we've had an outpouring of support and prayers, and it's been really in spite of all that's going on, it's been really kind of wonderful just to know that we had that kind of support. rosalynn carter was diagnosed with dementia at age 95. the carters were married for more than 75 years. they built a family with four children and more than a dozen grand and great grandchildren. in washington, bret baier, fox news. again the sad news to report to you this afternoon. rosalyn carter passing away in plains, georgia. she was 96 years old. you know, mrs. carter, through those years, she had a nickname, steel magnolia. if you remember that she was a strong force behind her husband's political career, rising from a peanut farmer who, of course, went to annapolis. he was a nuclear engineer and submarine ins started his first campaign for the state senate in georgia. she was by his side at that time, came at a time in the south when he embraced blacks and whites as involving african-americans in his campaigns and reaching out to them. he was elected governor and then president in 1976. mr. carter at the time saying to the american people, i will never lie to you. in a sense, trying to establish a new sense of ethics in the wake of president richard nixon's resignation and then the election of gerald ford, or actually the appointment of gerald ford, who then succeeded. mr. president, mr. nixon in the presidency. jimmy carter rising from the plains spokenness of plains, georgia, to the white house. and of course, the controversies dealing with the iranian hostage crisis that he endured for 444 days. she also participated in many of the charitable attributes habitat for humanity, building homes for the less fortunate, traveling the world, for the carter center. mr. carter is known for the camp david accords as well as for his participation in the human rights chip carter, one of their sons. others jacques involved in politics, elected to local politics in georgia. and what is shocking to a lot of people, i think, is that she was just the carter center announced a couple of days ago that she was suffering from dementia, entered into hospice at this all the time while her husband has been in hospice care since earlier this year. he is right now 98 years old. she was 96. and even after serving in the white house, they returned to their home in plains, georgia, which they bought in 1961 for $167,000. he was $1 million in debt when he left the white house because of the peanut business. lucas tomlinson is at the white house with us now. you know, lucas, the legacy kind of a different sense of politicians as a couple that did not go out. and although he wrote 33 books, did not go out and basically cash in on the presidency, made tours, foreign trips, but did not seek that star power, they went back to their basically humble life in plains, georgia, eating on paper plates and having friends over with a cup of wine in a little plastic or paper cup. quite a different couple. quite a amazing america . an love story. rosalind carter lucas, your thoughts? well, much like cincinnatus, president jimmy carter, of course, went to the naval academy, our first president to attend the naval academy, and he married rosalynn carter just after his graduation in 1946. we just received a statement in from the carter center, eric, saying, quote, rahas former first lady rosalynn carter was a passionate champion of mental health, caregiving and women's rights. she passed away earlier today at her home in plains, georgia, at the age of 96. she died peacefully with her family by her side. as you mentioned, eric, ms. carter was married for 77 years. to jimmy carter, the 39th president of the united states. the 2002 nobel peace prize recipient. and in a statement, president carter said, roslyn was my equal partner in everything i ever accomplished. she gave me wise guidance and encouragement when i needed it. as long as roslyn was in the world, i always knew somebody loved and supported me and of course, she is survived by her four children. jack chip , jeff and amy and 11 grandchildren and 14 great grand children. an and her son chip carter said. besides being a loving mother and extra ordinary first lady, my mother was a great humanitarian in her own right, her life of service and compassion was an example for all americans. she will be sorely missed, not only by our family, but by the many people who have better mental health care and access to resources for caregiving. today and, you know, it's become almost a staple, eric, that the first lady will travel with the president. but she was really a trailblazer. roslyn carter, in this endeavor. she used to travel with her husband. he counted on her to attend cabinet meetings. it's notable that in the white house they did not serve hard liquor. sometimes she would serve wine, but they were very religious, as you mentioned, and as you mentioned, after the presidency , the couple returned to georgia, where they were from. they certainly did not seek to cash in on the office, but just a sad day right now for the state of georgia and also for the united states. you know, she first saw her husband in a photograph in his uniform, his naval uniform. you know, when he was in annapolis. certainly would be, you know, how dashing some of the young lieutenant commander, commanders are. so it was quite an incredible american story of attending annapolis. that's right. and her and then president carter's mother actually delivered her from the hospital. i mean, there was a whole family connection. they knew each other their whole lives. she fell in love with him even before he went to the naval academy. and, of course, when you attend the naval academy, you're not allowed to get married. so they waited patiently until after graduation and actually, if you get married right after you graduate from the naval academy, it's called the 2% club, 2% of the people come in with the girlfriends. they have get married to him. so certainly says a lot about their relationship up that they were married from 1946. they were married for over 77 years. i mean, that alone is iconic. eric yeah, we remember miss lillian, who was jimmy carter's mother at that time. of course, billy carter, if you recall that billy and the family at the time, they really were a different sort when they came into the white house and burst into the national scene in the wake of the resignation, resignation of president nixon and gerald ford. talk a bit about lucas, the sense of a role model as a first lady. she was involved, but she was very quietly behind the scenes. hillary clinton, in a sense, took a page from that being much more involved and being included in the public policy making. as you remember, with the health care situation, often because her nickname was the steel magnolia, that indicates someone who was strong, who was resilient, who didn't fool around with, and that often is said a first ladies, whether it's you know, nancy reagan or hillary clinton, that you do not cross the president's spouse. i remember these were tough times for the united states in the late 70s. i mean, it was the height of the cold war, you know, in fact, jimmy carter, even though president reagan is credited with rebuilding the military, some of that actually started at the end of the carter administration. you know , plans to develop the b-1 bomber later canceled. yes. but some of those laid plans happened during the carter administration. but let's look across the globe at what was going on. and, of course, the iranian hostage crisis, you could argue, helped sink the carter administration. he needed someone. he could count on for support. and certainly his wife, roslyn, was there for him during those tough times. look at about inflation. you know, the long gas lines, you know, it was a tough time in american history and his wife was there for him for that. and, of course, there were also issues with the former president at the time. if you remember, the malaise speech, there was a mood in the sense in this country that in a sense, the american dream was fading because of the economic situation. inflation, those long gas lines to the middle east, the oil crisis in 1973, and then, of course, the hostage taking we watched every single night for those 440 plus days. the americans was taken hostage in the embassy in tehran by those radical islamic militants who established a theocracy of the mullahs whom are still in power in tehran today. and currently a the current democratic president has to wrangle with the very same issues that some of which that mr. carter had to deal with back then, not so successfully. those hostages released on the day that ronald reagan was inaugurated as president of the united states. that was some controversy over accusations that the reagan campaign somehow dealt with behind the scenes to try to delay the hostage release that denied by many. but still, it seems that the legacy of jimmy carter on one hand, you're talking about ethics and bringing in new sense into the white house after those nixon years and the scandal of watergate. at the same time, as you pointed out, you had the inflation, the economic situation, some of which we still wrestle with and have today, as well as dealing with tehran, in which mr. biden, the current occupant of the white house, has also has to deal with. that's right. long gas lines and certainly that iranian hostage crisis is, one could argue, helped elect out president reagan president. he won 44 states. in fact, there was a landslide. but certainly when you talk about a first lady, you could argue that rosalynn carter was the gold standard. she was at her husband's side. there's certainly when you look back at her history, no embarrassing moments, she was tough as you mentioned, the steel magnolia. you can't get a better nickname from the state of georgia. and arguably, you could say paved the way, perhaps for bill clinton. you know, people saw a southern governor and said this can work, this can happen. and that's exactly what happened later, certainly with bill clinton. but the carter family certainly has always been one of respect. and her work, of course, after he left the white house, you know, four decades of public service, the carter center, her husband and president carter was a nobel recipient from 2002, certainly not just when it comes to mental health, but remember, he was in an envoy. i mean, carter was sent to talk to two world leaders. he was certainly somebody that people were counted on and he certainly counted on his wife for that support and counsel. and do you think there's a sense also, besides the sadness and recalling, i mean, kind of the shock that sadly, she has left us while her husband has been ailing for the past many months and we were able to see them a few weeks ago during the plane's peanut festival. they were both in the car. there was a photograph of them in the in the back seat. so they were, you know, fairly active, at least able to get out and participate in the peanut festival in their beloved hometown of his beloved hometown of plains, just a few weeks ago. and certainly when you lift the age of 96, while it's tragic, there's certainly nothing short of a celebration of a life at that point. and the fact that the former president, jimmy carter, is still alive at 99 is certainly a testament to that family. and certainly those genes. and as you mentioned, they were just at in a parade just recently in the plains, georgia, and the fact that it was only just though a few days ago we heard she went into hospice. of course, we heard weeks ago that that her husband had gone into hospice. but it was just a few days ago that we heard this announcement that rosalynn carter was entering hospice. so from that announcement to this certainly sudden here, eric, and those who've like in my family and the families of those who are watching at the moment know that there are various levels of hospice care. it's done to provide for some a more intensive level of care as well as to deal with some of the bills and this sort of thing. it does not necessarily mean that one is one's demise is imminent. when you're under hospice care, as we see with the president, it is more sometimes more of a medical administrative, in some cases as type of a category and situation. so thankfully and hopefully be an example of mr. carter's fortitude. he has been able to continue. mrs. carter, though sadly diagnosed with with dementia earlier this year, which has any family watching now, and anyone who knows who has had a loved one suffer from dementia. you know, lucas can be really so, so sad and especially devastating. that's right. although it does bear mentioning she was the second longest tenured former first lady. only bess truman outlived her reaching the age of 97. so rosalyn carter certainly lived a full life. and the fact that her husband is still alive at 99 says so much. but certainly eric, of course, when you talk about dementia, it's arguably one of the most cruel ways to end a life just because you see your loved ones is fading. and certainly many vary. and it's tough to watch for all around. certainly jason carter, the one of the couple's grandsons recently said that they were, although the end was near, as they said, that they were enjoying time together. he's saying that they were at home, that they are in love. and jason carter saying, i don't think anyone gets more than that. i mean, it's a perfect situation for their times and their this time in their lives that from jason carter recently about his grandparents one's heart and prayers must go out to the former president, jimmy carter, losing his longtime love and companion, rosalyn carter, earlier today. as we are reporting now at fox news, molly has howard kurtz with more. yeah thank you very much, eric. our condolences on the passing of rosalynn carter and, of course, to her husband, the former president, and to their children, jack. chip jeff and amy. they had 11 grandchildren, 14 great grandchild and another grandson had died in 2015. and bringing in howie kurtz. now, howie, this was a remarkable woman, a remarkable marriage. she was an incredible advocate for her husband, both on the campaign trail. but before that , as they navigated their life while he was in the navy and then on his run for governor, on his run for president, and throughout his presidency and then beyond when she joined him in much of that journey in building humanitarian causes, habitat for humanity and beyond , and her own great interest in mental health and all of her own advocacy goals. how are your thoughts? that's exactly right. and it's a terribly sad day. she was 96. we should all be so lucky. but, you know, the family kind of tried to signal this within the last couple of days by saying that she had gone to hospice care, but because the same had been sent of jimmy carter and he has been able to hang on for months, maybe some of us didn't properly read the signal. but having covered the carter administration, i think i think she's one of the most underrated first ladies because, yes, she made even in that era, it was more unusual than it would be today to make a very prominent issue of mental health. and, you know, the marriage was so close that she supported her husband on everything. undoubtedly serving as a sounding board for him while he was president. and he was a one term president. but he did accomplish some things, and most notably, the camp david peace accords between egypt and israel. and even afterwards, you know, a lot of people have said, well, i wasn't a big fan of jimmy carter's president, but i certainly admire what he accomplished, as in his post-presidency, you know, habitat for humanity, building houses and so forth. and there, too, you know, she was by his side the whole way. and so i think although she didn't seek out a lot of publicity, she didn't get as much attention as a hillary clinton or and nancy reagan, she was a partner to jimmy carter in many ways. we have a statement here from president carter. this was just released very recently by the carter center, from the media at the carter center. and it says rosalynn was my equal partner in everything i ever accomplished from president carter saying she gave me wise guidance and encouragement when i needed it. as long as rosalynn was in the world, i always knew somebody loved me and supported me, which i think, you know, speaks a man of his heart, a man who's lost his wife, a wife of 77 plus years. wow. i had not seen that statement, but it does sort of fit in with what i was saying, which is, you know, and you were saying whether he was in the military or running for president or running for governor of georgia, remember, it was amazing that in 1976, a one term governor of georgia who kind of camped out in iowa and wasn't, you know, as famous as many of his rivals won the presidency. and so, again, you know, she was a surrogate for him. he did have the mental health initiative and i just think while something like this is very, very sad, it probably will prompt in both the obituaries and in the coverage a reexamination of a first lady that many people had kind of forgotten about because she was not somebody who sought the limelight, but she did support her husband in every way. so i'm happy to hear that statement from former president carter. but it must be heartbreaking. he also being in very poor health to lose his life like this. yeah, we know that they were both people of great faith, notably jimmy carter still teaching sunday school into his 90s. but one of the things you just talked about, what an advocate she was and sort of her personality, some of the charm is that she was down to earth and warm and really did an enormous amount of campaigning on her own. she traveled all over the country, you know, to aid in her in his campaign for presidency and also helped him win that seat in georgia. and part of that was her personality. yeah, that's absolutely right. i mean, i've seen them in action and she was, i guess i should say, an extremely warm person and very down to earth, you know, unlike a washington wife of any politician who's kind of been through the political wars and maybe acquires that certain professional detachment or polish, which they were both from the small town of plains, georgia, and maybe that was part of the reason that they, you know, remember jimmy carter before his entry into politics, had been a peanut farmer. and i bet she helped him with that as well. being a lifelong partner as she was. and so you know, southern hospitality, but also the very you unmistakable charm of rosalynn carter in the limelight. now, unfortunately, for sad reason. but as i say, living to 96, she certainly led a good and happy and fulfilling life and helped her husband in particularly when times were rough, as often was the case during his four years in the white house. yeah. you know, when she was 13 years old, her father died. her mother became a dressmaker there. and they had they faced some tough times, but she jumped in. she worked alongside her mother. she helped with all of the things you would help with, including the sewing and the other children as well. she was the first of four children, as you mentioned. she also born in plains, as they were really of that place. and so much pride. yeah and would go back to plains regularly while jimmy carter was president. it wasn't like, you know, a lot of people just kind of move on from their hometown and maybe it's, you know, just this little small town. they they thrived on it. they liked being seen by their neighbors and friends for all those years that they lived there as as, you know, just one of them along with billy carter excuse me, jimmy carter's extended family, which included his brother billy. and i don't think they wanted to lose that. they valued those roots. it's one of the things that made them so down to earth. and it's one of the things, you know, jimmy carter was famous for his smile when he ran that helped him win the presidency. i think the idea that, remember after the nixon presidency and the jerry ford presidency and of course, jimmy carter beat an incumbent, although he didn't have the jerry ford didn't have the full four years, he he he carried his own bags as president. he wanted to project. i'm just one of you persona and i don't think that was marketing or phony at all. that was jimmy carter. that was rosalynn carter. they had that small town, approachable ability. and clearly it was part of who they were and why they kept going back to a town that none of us had ever heard of where he had started out as a peanut farmer. how it's been wonderful to talk to you. before we let you go, i just want to get any final thoughts you may have. well, i guess i'm a little taken aback because as i said earlier, i thought since jimmy carter has been in hospice care for some months and is still, you know, is still with us and hopefully feeling all right, i wasn't expecting it as quickly. i mean, anything can happen when you're 96. but my final thought is this was a first lady who, for all the things that she did as a partner to a politician, a governor, a president and a former president, really didn't get the media attention that any other first ladies have gotten. and i think that may now be rectified in part. all right, howie kurtz, thank you so much. we appreciate your thoughts right now. and molly and rick calling the successes, the triumphs, and also the disappointments of the carter administration. it turned out when they went to camp david, the president and mrs. carter to meet with and sit with prime minister menachem begin of israel, anwar sadat, president of egypt, to try and hammer out the camp david peace accords. back in 1978. she said she was very much a part of it. she said that they would thought they would spend a couple of days there instead, they spent 12 days, 12, 12 days hammering out the camp david peace accords for middle east peace, which is certainly something that we need and could use today. so she was very much involved behind the scenes in the policies, also involved in mental health and other issues. lucas tomlinson at the white house now with more reaction from the biden administration and more thoughts. lucas, on the legacy of this democratic president couple where president biden right now is at naval station norfolk, a navy base, coincidentally the largest in the world. and of course, president jimmy carter was the only naval academy graduate to become president of united states. he was a submarine officer. so it is notable we have not heard president biden mention the passing of rosalyn carter yet, but we're certainly waiting for the white house to put out a statement. we're told that's coming soon. i'm just hearing how he talked just moments ago. it made me think about the 1976 election. we forget how solidly blue the south was in the united states for many years. it was not until reagan's time really, that the south started voting republican, but jimmy carter, of course, he lost to gerald ford in that 76 election. in fact, president ronald reagan almost upset the incumbent, gerald ford during that campaign. but just while how he was talking, a friend of mine, a former navy seal, was sending his reflections on rosalynn carter because he was part of her protective detail on some trips to africa. and he was saying, if you don't mind me looking down here, that on one occasion when president carter was going to south sudan, rosalyn pretended to be sick so she could tour the pyramids in sudan, and she was staying in khartoum. and so he went with her so she could tour the pyramids. and she was very active, including going into the well into the 2000s. in fact, her husband in 2009 did a swim workout with the navy seals while they were moving out, told rosalyn to not participate in that. but just to show you how active this this couple was really all the way until just recently, when sadly both entered into hospice. eric you know, it is also and we're going to be talking about politics and the impact on the nation and the political legacy and the achievements and the disappointments of the carter administration. but look at it as a love story. i mean, yeah, he had that playboy interview. i don't know if you recall that one where he said there was lust in his heart at that time during during the campaign. but it is a remarkable love story of a small town couple who who met and whose families then knew each other and stayed in planes all these many decades after one of the after the top achievement than any anyone can ever achieve in politics. being elected as as the first couple of the united states raising their family, staying in love, staying together and living out the final days of their lives as we have been told by the carter center and the family, he in love together, happy as they have said, the past few 77 years. eric, i mean, that is remarkable. may we all be so lucky. 77 years, the fact that she lived till 96 and you mentioned the camp david accords in egypt. of course, in africa, the carters were very active all the way. you know, until very recently helping combat hunger literacy. they spent many, many years traveling to africa, helping the less fortunate bit. and certainly we're great ambassadors of this country. well, someone who knows the carters, who has covered the washington politics for decades, white house correspondent, chief political analyst brit hume of fox news. brit, joining us now on the telephone. brit not unexpected, but your thoughts and reflections about the carters during the passing of mrs. carter? well, it was a great marriage. one that had its birth, i think, in their mutual we mutual christian faith. and they both lived it till the end i think. and set an example for others of, you know, fidelity and steadfast justness and love. and it was something, something to follow, something to watch. you know, the nickname steel magnate. julia brit, tell us about that, about what she was like behind the scenes. well, she was you know, she was in involved with him deeply. he wasn't really a stay at home wife, if you will. she was, you know, part of his career, part of his life in every way. and you know, they i think, you know, i knew her slightly. i knew him, but i didn't know her terribly well. but she was a gracious person. i don't think there's any doubt about that. and played a major role in supporting him in every possible way. and i think she you know, and they really you know, you think about it, they really endured, the two of them. i mean, you know, i know he's very ill and probably close to passing himself off. but think of their age. it's just remarkable. and you know, they've been a blessing out of office. carter occasionally pipes up in ways that some people find unwelcome, but by and large, they've been kind of a model out of office first couple and finally, brett, as we consider presidential couples and we consider this remarkable union of both, i guess that's what we can really take from that, that they were simple downhome folk having simple dinners with friends in that house they bought in 1961 in plains, georgia. yeah. and think think of him in his retirement years. you know, standing on ladders at an advanced age and pounding nails into into buildings to support habitat for humanity, a favorite