this is "the ingraham angle" from washington tonight. breaking just moments ago the house just passed a stop gap bill to prevent a government shutdown. wasn't that the whole reason they got rid of kevin mccarthy? oh, okay. well, we are going to bring you more on that later in the show. and on the foreign policy front, biden sits down with xi tomorrow for what is sure to be, the long american surrender. plus, capitol hill turns into the thunder dome. we'll get into all of that later on. but, first, license to kill, that's the focus of tonight's angle. ♪ now, growing up as a kid in the 1970s, there were plenty of changes happening in society. there was the withdrawal from vietnam. there was nixon resigning. a gas lines. i remember those. and the jimmy carter malaise. with all of that, i don't remember ever hearing about storiess of mobs committing criminal acts. christmas season more fedex deliveries you a over. now truck drivers aren't just worried about getting packages there on time? a little bit robbery of a fedex delivery truck. the driver described the heist in detail telling multiple cars blocked him off at the red light on the corner of west malory avenue and south memphis around 8:30 saturday night. then they broke into thinks truck and stole $100,000 worth of other people's deliveries. leaving behind empty boxes and putting our city further on edge? >> of course no one arrested so far. and that lack of consequences is what has propelled other ram pages nationwide. chicago has seen its fair share. [shouting] earlier this facilitate a hundred or so thugs ransacked a store in philadelphia. how casually they ended up getting into this pharmacy, is that correct everything, taking everything they could. it's chilling. and it's the same mo every time. everyone in a mask or a hoodie it, a hat. remember it's totally normal for people to wear surgical masks and rubber gloves in public. just do that in total, as of today, over 70 arrests have been made there. here are some of the s mull sho. accused mostly in 20's and 30's. mostly minorities, mainly african-american. then in vegas, a horrific attack caught on video, jonathan lewis age 17 was beaten by a mob at his school. now, as you see, we are blurring the faces because most of these attackers are minors. the victim here was white. the attackers appear to be black. of course, most of the media ignoring that information because crime is crime no matter who is committing it. obviously. but when you have a media that desperately trying to help pull joe biden across the finish line in 2024 and doesn't want to admit that we have a major crime problem in this country, you soon learn that the press takes every potential story about crime and turns it into a story about race. so ask yourself why does race get prominently mentioned when the criminal is white and the victim is black. >> we're kicking things off with what the folks are calling bloody saturday and the alabama sweet tea party. that's right. i'm talking about the alabama brawl that took place after white men attacked a black boat. >> group white men attacking him before it escalated into a bigger fight. >> laura: it turned out that racism was not a motivating factor in that fight at all. jim kittrell, the captain, of the harriet 2 told the daily beast that he thought race might have been a factor in the initial attack on his co-captain but the resulting melee was not a black and white thing. now, the media's first instinct is always to ignore the race of the criminals unless white people are the perpetrators. remember, that one of biden's themes for 2024, one of his main themes throughout his entire administration is that white people in the united states are fundamentally of a racist and evil history. so, the media are seeking every opportunity to promote that message. this is why black-on-black crime, the majority of both violent criminals and their victims in the united states are black and black women are especially hard hit. that story is largely ignored. black women account for 25% of crime victims in most categories. and, again, mostly ignored by the press. kudos for cbs for doing that report. and in new orleans, black people make up the majority of murder victims. but, look, it's not just in those two places, going back for decades, liberal sociologists have posited that the disproportionate violence committed by black men is linked to the violence that had been perpetrated against them during the slave period. now, this idea is nothing new. that the past -- unfair treatment of people in the past justifies or explains future bad behavior in other words victimhood pays. the problem is as the great walter williams once argued the world is full of victims. >> we're sit down and decide who, which people have the most destruction, the most oppression in the world, i couldn't come up with a name of the you know, the turks tried to will armenians, the nazis with the jews. the irish and the catholic, the huginos, persecution. nothing unique about blacks. if you went to look at history and decide who was persecuted the most, it's a useless battle. >> laura: but in their desperate efforts to smear america as a fundamentally racist and easel country, our leaders have created a generation that believes it has a license to vandalize, steal, beat, and sometimes even kill. their homelife, the popular culture, even schools are teaching them toxic, depressing lessons about race and the american experience. now, the floyd riots, they taught them that burning and loot going done in large enough numbers will go unpunished. cite underlying racial agree advance and maybe can you expect leniency. as long as you can claim to hate america, the media, and the democrats, will generally back you up. this ne-yo marxist dynamic has done huge damage to racist in the united states and minority around working class communities of all background already struggling to make ends meet. >> somebody is going to end up getting killed, an innocent bystander. you have so many people that are good citizens that are carrying on because they are afraid of this stuff coming to their doors out here in the street. >> laura: but, remember, the biden administration and its supporters in the press don't actually care about what's best for minorities or what's best for any american for that matter. they care about one thing. winning re-election and staying in power. and that's not easy to do when crime is such a problem. so they plan to solve that problem, not by stopping crime, but by blaming america. so they will smear the founders. they will smear republicans, the police, anyone they can think of and in the hopes of scaring folks into voting for biden. they certainly don't want minority communities to be confident and prosperous. they want them so scared that they will vote for biden, rather than voting for peace and prosperity. safety. so we have to keep reaching out and telling the truth about america, about crime, until that message breaks through and once we have no leadership, we can -- once new leadership, we can once again teach the ancient lesson that crime does not pay. and that's the angle. >> laura: joining me now is kevin mcgriery, co-founder of every black life matters and president of the frederick douglass foundation of california and legal commentator. kevin, you know, it's extremely sad for everyone the victims mostly but also for a lot of these young people in urban america, especially. that victimhood pays and violence is a perfectly fine instinct. what has to happen next? >> yeah, thank you for having me, laura. it is -- what we're seeing is a complete undermining of all of the systems. we see the undermining of family. the undermining of education by our children being propagandized to and brainwashed into thinking that everything has to do supremacists taken over all of the money and all of the jobs, therefore, you are a victim. you know? you got to go out and get yours because they're the ones who are taking your opportunity. and these are messages that have been postulated for the past two generations, i would say. and right now they are really hitting strides. this is all part of a, you know, a marxist kind of -- cultural marxist kind of stream that we are in now where we see the outcomes that are wholly disproportionate, we don't see certain types of crimes being, as you have so eloquently stated. we don't see certain types of crimes being talked about because they -- it it's an inconvenient narrative. everything is being narrative driven and they want -- if they can, to try to get the races aggrieved and clashing and bitter and hateful towards one another because that is and produces another cog, if you will, that really undermines american and ultimately, you know, provides a system that is in collapse. when it's in collapse then we can go into the globalist, communist stuff. >> laura: horace, things have gotten so bad in washington, d.c. our nation's capitol that the mayor, muriel bowser has been forced to try to respond to this crisis. this is what she said. >> i will declare public emergencies to allow the government's response, special to procuring services to be expedited. those issues are opioid overdoses. and the second issue is youth violence. >> laura: horace, she is kind of stating the problem that we already know exists. but, what after that? you know, d.c. is just -- has become enn. large part an unlivable city because people are scared in d.c. and now it's an emergency? i say it was an emergency a long time ago, wasn't it? >> you left out the most exciting clip where they are going to give out apple airtags so that when your car gets stolen, you can track it down. and, great, let me figure this out. i'm a law-abiding citizen, criminal took my car, i'm going to go and meet my criminal. what good can come from that? now, i just want to say this broadly speaking. this ne-yo marxist cultural attack on america had managed to do what covid couldn't. and that is it has led to a quicker loss of life for black americans. the age at which blacks are dying because of the crime wave is dropping relative to the rest of the population. in fact in '21 and '22 the centers for disease control listed for black americans something that it hasn't listed for any other group. it says loss of life by homicide, one of the top 10 causes of death not forations, not for whites, not for native americans but for black americans. there is good news though because the open season that is leading to the cvs closing in your community so that grandma has to take a bus to pick up her prescriptions and it costs more money at this new location the good news is that black americans are telling anyone who will listen they are no longer staying on the democrat plantation. record numbers of black americans are showing up on social media, and they are telling pollsters they are not going along with this. they want the america that their -- that our founders fought for. >> laura: all right, kevin, democrats to that point have been beginning to hemorrhage black voters here is how the biden campaign though responded to what seems to be a new reality. >> talk about the maga extremists who want to roll back the progress that we have been able to achieve. our focus on the campaign has to be on telling this message over the course of the next 12 months. we have to be honest about the brick wall of maga extremism run into when we are trying to get things done for the american people. >> laura: kevin, does he mean the maga extremism that led to record home ownership by african-americans or rising median incomes or, you know, an enforced border? is was that the maga extremism? i guess we will take that maga extremism. your reaction is that going to work? >> these ridiculous tropes do not work. i mean, the reality is your average black family is feeling it. we are feeling not double dignity inflation. in some cases 3 x inflation, right? every time we go to the store. every time we are filling up our cars, we are feeling it. those elderly black americans that are on fixed income, they are feeling it. i mean, they have to, somehow, accommodate an $800 a month hit because that's your average american citizen is paying $800 a month more under the bidenomics than we did in the prior administration. it's about $9,600 a year. so, everyone is feeling it. it's pervasive. and that what happens we are feeling. forget the tropes about maga this and that. that's ridiculous. we understand what we have to endure. what we are currently feeling our ability and progeny not being able to buy homes and invest. s because of interest rates being so high. all of this pervasive effect. >> laura: sorry to interrupt but horace, real quickly, will we see a significant erosion, i would say 5%. erosion of the black vote in 2024. toward republican? >> blacks are going to vote in numbers that are going to exceed 15%. it could be close to 20%. it will definitely exceed 15%, making states like pennsylvania, even new jersey, difficult for the left to be able to carry. but they own this. the progressives created this heart break in the black america. and black americans are standing up they are saying no more. china's president xi just touched down in a newly produce spruced up san francisco in the last hour. if you want to know how president biden was warming up to the big meeting with the chinese strong man. wait until we show you 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they'll know in their final months that they're not alone. >> the boss just touched down in san francisco i'm talking about xi jinping who landed a little more man an hour ago. he has agreed to give the american president an audience tomorrow. of course, the "new york times" is desperately trying to convince all of you that we actually benefit from az russian collusion china. they called our relationship the world's most successful joint venture and urged against decoupling saying divorce is not a practical option. the united states and china, the world's two largest economies are intertwined even as geopolitical tensions fray their ties. these two countries still depend on each other. and as the media pushes a u.s. china love affair, how is biden prepping for the big face to face? >> you know, i have seen firsthand what the reports make clear the devastating toll of climate change and existential threat to all of us and is the ultimate threat to humanity joining me is john ratcliffe. john, the climate change thing is just hysterically funny, sad but funny. didn't our own chairman of the joint chiefs say that china was our biggest threat that we face but joe biden says it's climate change. >> yeah, i don't want to say climate change isn't real but on a worldwide threat assessment the intelligence community i think when i was dni had climate change on page 34 of a 34 page document. china was on page one because our intelligence tells us clearly they're the greatest geopolitical threat. laura, even if you believe that climate change was the threat that joe biden and aoc and others say, you know, all of the green new deal taxes and everything that joe biden talks about isn't going to make a dent as long as the world's biggest carbon emissions polluter china part of agreements make any dent in those issues. what is worrisome about this summit that's taking place is old football coach bill parcel says your record are what you say you are. joe biden is 0 for everything china. day one democrats getting rebuked on u.s. soil to getting the middle finger on covid. to say a spy balloon that after it completed its mission and it was finally shot down, we have been chasing them to have conversations with us. this really seems like the culmination of the biden begging tour where he has been sending his cabinet members over to beg for this meeting. and now, you know, we're going to have this sitdown tomorrow where, you know, it's not even just a matter of having low expectations, it's this idea that we have nothing to gain and everything to lose when joe biden is the one negotiating on behalf of the american people. >> now, john president did speak earlier today about this watch. >> we are not trying to decouple from china. what we're trying to do is change the relationship for the better. from my perspective, if, in fact, the chinese people who are in trouble right now economically. if the average citizen in china was able to have a decent paying job, that benefits them and it benefits all of us. >> laura: okay. the funniest thing about that is the wind turbines, you couldn't see it, john, but they are spinning in a graphic behind him. i'm like wind bag and turbines that are made in china by the way. i thought there was so much irony and those comments in the back drop. it seems to me that though made a decision long ago because climate change was their number one priority they were never going to use their leverage that we obviously have laura "new york times" headline, successful joint venture and they're a friendly competitor, look, the only people that believe that are the same people that would tell you bidenomics is good for the economy and is making their lives better. the bottom line is, you know, this joint venture is one where one partner is robbed, the other one blind. what our intelligence and the facts tell us is that a rising china has been built on the intellectual property theft and economic and military espionage and the trillions of dollars over the years. and, you know, this just really underscores that joe biden and this administration has been soft on china, just as they have been soft everywhere with all of our adversaries, iran and russia, china advanced around the globe, their positions have improved since joe biden has been president and it's why china will be working to influence and interfere the election in 2024. they want joe biden to continue to be a weak u.s. president. hour lawyer our own state department warned about what china is next year that's the state department. john, it's always great to see you. thank you. in iceland, city streets are cracking in half and steam is pouring into the air and fears of an immediate volcanic explosion are growing. joining me with all the details is fox weather correspondent max gorden. max, what is happening? >> hey there, laura. yeah, scary situation there in iceland. today, volcanic gases forced another evacuation of grindivak seismic activity and fishers they have been along to collect pets. a second evacuation. vindication vic located an hour and a half rec vic has been the focal point latest seismic volcanic activity there over the past day. hundreds of earthquakes detected in the area high pressure is one weren't what it was like evacuates cracks in the row to get out. when we got into grin da vic. they set road was closed because one of the roads had opened half a meter and pushed up crews are gathering material from gravel quarries in preparation to construct defense swamp will infrastructure lava flows the popular tourist attraction blue blah lagoon. new data suggests if the value cano erupts in the grindavik area won't be explosive and likely won't release toxic ash and smoke plume. >> laura: interesting. thank you. in 1856 the world's greatest deliberative body looked more like wwe set when a member of the house entered the senate chamber a beat a senator unconscious with a cane. sites and scenes at the capitol today 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[shouting] >> laura: all right. well, it's not that far off from the truth. it's getting pretty nasty up there. [ding ding ding] >> laura: tim who voted to remove kevin mccarthy as speaker was doing an interview with nbr when this happened. >> why did you elbow me in the back, kevin? hey, kevin, you got any guts? jerk. >> kevin, why did you walk by me and elbow me in the back. >> i did not. >> you did so. the reporter said it right there. what kind of chicken move is that? you are pathetic, man. >> burchett says mccarthy elbowed him in the kidney on purpose. but, here's mccarthy's take. >> i guess our shoulders hit because burchett runs up to me i don't know what he was talking about. reporters asked me i did not run up and hit the guy and kidney. >> you didn't shove him. >> no. if i hit somebody, they would know i hit them. >> laura: mccarthy is facing an ethics complaint over it filed by the same man who orchestrated his ouster. matt gaetz. also on the house side, marjorie taylor greene calling darrell issa a word i'm not going to say on tv after he claims that she lacked maturity and experience. and an oversight committee hearing devolved into kindergarten name calling when mock co-vits brought in family. >> so financially literate you and goldman who is mr. trust fund continue to. >> procl reclaiming my time. >> i'm not going to give your time back. >> you look like a smurf here going around all this stuff. >> mr. chairman you have. >> hold on. >> you have been proven a liar mr. moskowitz. >> what's that? >> you have already been proven a liar. >> who has proven me a liar, you? >> yes. >> laura: the smurf could be the best line ever. if those are the carveouts and then the senate held its main event. [ding ding ding] >> laura: former mma fighter and senator markwayne mullin took issue with a tweet by sean o'brien during a help committee hearing with the tough guy act. you know where to find me. any place, any time cowboy. #little man syndrome. and here is how that ended up going down. >> this is a time, this is a place, you want to run your mouth, we can be two consenting adults. we can finish it here. >> that's fine. perfect. >> do you want to do it now. >> i would lo to do it right now. >> stand your but the up then. >> you stand your butt up. >> stop it. >> hold it. no, no. sit down. you are a united states senator. sit down. >> sit down, please. >> laura: okay. i never thought i would say this. but bernie sanders seems to be the voice of reason here. everything you just saw was a complete and utter embarrassment. it shouldn't be what is projected to our kids, from our nation's capitol, row minored to all of you. the children are watching. you are supposed to be the adults in the room. so act like it. joining me now is chris bedford, executive editor at the common sense society. chris, tensions are running high up there on capitol hill. i have seen a lot in my day. but, this was kind of depositions running high. fighting over speaker. budget fight at least they did until earlier today in the house of representatives. twitter turns out doesn't just make everyone worse off, it makes senators and congressman worser people as well by just focusing all that negativity. but, honestly, it did kind of remind me a little bit of the tough guys in high school and college who would yell come at me bro but never actually throw a punch there walls none of that going on. just a lot of accusations and a lot of posturing. i get the frustration in washington, d.c. things can be annoying. but, it's not a very impressive show at the end of the day. >> laura: no. i think this is also why there is such a declining respect for our political leaders on capitol hill. there is some good people up there. i think they genuinely want what is best for the country and both parties people genuinely want america to be better off. when you see this kind of stuff, to me, it just speaks to a larger problem. and speaking of that, what did they end up getting by giving the boot to mccarthy? obviously the speaker, the new speaker did what you got to do if you are going to be -- you are governing. unfortunately they don't have a real governing majority if they don't work with democrats because they have a splintered republican party. democrats stick together. republicans don't. so, they are going to continue the government funding for at least -- you know, on a temporary basis. >> and i understand the frustration that's felt by the conservatives who voted against g.o.p. it was basically a democrat win. they gave a lot of different things over there although they did do some stoppages on funding for ukraine which was a major thing. they split off israel funding. that was extremely helpful. i get the frustration. at the end of the day, like you said, they do have to understand exactly what the speaker is and what the speaker is capable of. a new person in this office had a few weeks to do it is not going to be able to pull of the conservative agenda overnight. this was not a great move. i didn't really see many great moves on the board available to the new speaker. i think i'm glad that it went through. the american people watching really wouldn't tolerate another shutdown, another fight if they were going after the holy grail. that's not what they are going after. i think there is exhaustion not just as we have seen in the fighting in congress and the senate, but amongst the american people for all this infighting. >> laura: and, chris, tim scott gets out of the race. is it time for chris christie and vivek ramaswamy, at least those two to do the same? >> chris christie, i would say, definitely. it's time for him to go. he hasn't had the impact that he promised his voters. vivek, i'm curious. he has ad buys scheduled for iowa and big ad buying scheduled for new hampshire. he has been building his online personality and one of the only people up there on the debate stage who is saying some things that are contrarian to republican wisdom. the old adage goes three tickets out of iowa and two out of new hampshire. trump has already taken off on his own airplane it's hard to see how anyone gets a ticket. right now they are going to just try and see who can be the favorite candidate of the donors. it's not going to be vivek. and see what their future looks like after. of course, ego play as big part in this at the end of the day. >> laura: i would like to see ron desantis vs. nikki haley. the angle volunteers our show as a platform. and the two of them, i think, need debate it out. that is what we need to see at this point. and i think america would like to see that as well. thank you. last week. we mentioned how the left wants to control where you go. now, they also want to control what you say. lee zeldin has reaction, next. (car engine revs) (engine accelerating) (texting clicks) (tires squeal) (glass shattering) (loose gravel clanking) >> laura: america, it is time for everyone to wake up because little by little, every day you're losing a little bit of your freedom. whether it's credit card companies, shadowing and categorizing your gun purchases or social media companies conspiring with the white house disinformation. or government mandated kill switches in your cars. it's only for your safety. there's a gradual, but undeniable move against your constitutional rights. and now, new york governor kathy hochul is using the cover of fighting anti-semitism to monitor your speech online. >> we are very focused on the data we are collecting from surveillance efforts. we have launched an effort to be able to counter some of the negativity and reach out to people when we see hate speech being spoken about online platforms: ramped up its monitoring of sites to catch incitement to violence, direct threats to others. >> laura: joining me now lee zeldin, former new york congressman and former gubernatorial candidate. lee? what is this really all about? monitoring, surveillance, sounds like that dhs office they set up that they wanted to, you know, the disinformation board. sounds very similar. >> this is about hoard be power and being able to target political opposition in the name of combating anti-semitism by using a vague, subjective term allowing your thought police to be able to surveil online content, collect data lark wage you don't like. kathy hochul told me i should get on a bus and move to florida because i'm a conservative. she is someone -- she has called new yorkers her apostles. who knows exactly how she plans on defining what hate speech is. and color me very skeptic and cautious and untrustworthy of a government that when launching initiative like this isn't willing to carrifully detail what the content is specifically going after. who is overseeing this power to make sure it's not being abused. citing where you got the power from in the first place. >> laura: well, here's the problem. to them hate speech is just conservative ideas. if you are against the border, being open, if you are against, you know, what has happened with this mob, you know, mentality and looting and criminal activity, then you're racist. right? so, basically for them, it's just being a conservative. they will say oh it's about anti-semitism, oh, that makes sense everyone wants anti-semitism gone. i want to play some sound for you that i think nikki haley might come to regret. >> when i get into office, the first thing we have to do is social media accounts, social media companies they have to show america their algorithms, let us see why they are pushing what they are pushing. the second thing is every person on social media should be verified by their name. that's, first of all, it's a national security threat. >> laura: now, lee, you and i are lawyers, you know, i'm pretty sure the supreme court has already ruled repeatedly that free speech includes anonymous speech. where could that little analysis on the part of haley go wrong? >> you're 100 percent right from a legal constitutional analysis. the anonymous speech is protected. listen, if someone comes after you or i, our thought is why don't you put your name behind it. stop hiding behind anonymous tag on social media; however, if you are the president of the united states. you don't have the power to just demand that they put their name to that anonymous speech that is, in fact, protected. >> laura: well, lee, it's always great to see you. i wish you were governor of the great state of new york. you came close. but great to see you. all right. remember, the artemis langford sorority story we covered this in depth. that sorority is now giving two members the boot for taking the preposterous stance that only women should be in the sorority. the two who were kicked out are here to call the sorority out, after this. ♪ there once was a tree lovingly made to look real. (♪) so real, something magical happened... (♪) it helped create very real memories. (♪) balsam hill. this is franklin graham. i had a veteran one time tell me, "is there such a thing as a bucket of hope? "my bucket is getting pretty empty." and maybe you feel the same way when you look at the wars in the world, the demonstrations, the political chaos. you just ask yourself, "what hope do we have?" well, we've got a lot of hope, if we put our faith and trust in god. you see, god loves you. he made you, he created you, he sent his son jesus christ from heaven to this earth to take our sins. he died and shed his blood on a cross for our sins, and god raised him to life. if you are willing to trust him right now, god will forgive you. just pray this prayer with me. if you haven't done this, do it right now. just say, "god, i'm a sinner." i'm sorry. forgive me. i want to turn from my sins. i believe jesus christ is your son. i want to trust him as my savior. amen. you prayed that prayer, call the number right now that's on the screen. god bless you! >> laura: that woman was a sister for 50 years. she served as foundation president. but she spoke out after a biological male was accepted into a wisconsin chapter of the sorority. and then she supported a lawsuit by some of the sisters to remove that person. but now she's been kicked out of the organization that she's loved all these years. joining me one of the sisters who sued to remove the transgender member. also with me is a senior fellow at the independent women's law center. another woman, sheryl smith, was also expelled from the sorority. how much did their support mean to you while you were going through the lawsuit and trying to make some headway with this lawsuit? >> this has been very disappointing for us to hear. these alumni and so many others have been so supportive oufs and so helpful to us and helped point us in the right direction. when we're in college, we don't know what the heck to do. we just know we need to fight it. hearing they are being dismissed over supporting women is very disappointing to hear coming from a women's organization. >> it's staggering to people watching this, that this is even a thing. these people are all supposed to be pro women. they're pro girl power. we always hear about girl power? that's out the window, obviously. what does this mean to other sororities across the country? girls next fall, trying to figure out what sorority they're rushing. could this extend to other sororities across the country? >> yeah. it means no one is safe. not on are women entitled to womens only spaces, but you can't say that they should be. that's really what's shocking here. they weren't kicked out for violating some rule, for not paying their dues or sneaking a man to the second floor. they were kicked out for speaking the truth. when the truth is gone, when you can no longer speak the truth, we're really in trouble. you were talking to lee zeldon. we have to pay attention to the people in power and hold them to account for the rules of the sorority. >> laura: do you now worry? are you worried that you might be the next sister given the boot here, expelled? >> i won't lie. it is a concern that's crossed my mind. if that's the price i have to say to stick up for this, stick up for other women in future generations, then i'm willing to do it. i don't think it's right. they're supposed to support women. that's why so many of us have joined this organization. if they think that's what they need to do to continue to support woke culture, then so be it, i guess. >> laura: they have to understand, it's the death of the sorority system. if this keeps going this way, it's going to be the end of sororities, at least the sororities most young women want to join. but may, this point, the lawsuit that was filed against kkg was dismissed back in august. so where does everything stand now? >> yeah. so we have appealed that to the 10th circuit. our first brief is due in december. the big question there is, i kid you not, what is a woman? kappa kappa gamma's define membership to be limited to women. the judge said i cannot figure out what that means. we can. we can help explain that. so the 10th circuit will hear that in the coming months. >> laura: we've been on this, we've been with you from the beginning, the ingraham angle. we're going to continue to be with you. thank you for being with us tonight. breaking news just moments ago. las vegas police announced eight minors have been arrested in that beating death of jonathan lewis. they're still searching for two more. they will be found. i'm confident. we're going to bring you more details as we get them. we started the show talking about how we got to this point, where mob violence just something people expect, almost expect now. it doesn't matter who the victims are or the criminals are. crime has to be punished. can't be two standards of justice. one standard. cover it all the same way. but this was horrific, and we hope they get the other two perpetrators. that's it for us tonight. get tickets to see us live on the road from the grand ol opry house november 16th. scan that qr code on your screen and you can buy tickets. thanks for watching. jesse's next. >> jesse: welcome to jesse waters