gowdy. israeli defense forces continue to pound hamas encircling gaza strip and rejecting calls from president biden and others for a so-called humanitarian pause. israel says if you want to pause, release the hostages, otherwise israel is reluctant to pause and allow hamas to regroup and the world should be reluctant to take the word of a terrorist group that beheads children. alex hogan is live in southern israel and joins us now. alex. we've started to hear artillery pick up, loudest blasts in the entire time here in israel, where you can feel the pressure and hear that echo ripple off into the distance. there is gunfire tonight, what appears to be machine gunfire in the distance in the direction of gaza strip. there were soldiers earlier tonight who asked us to cross the street to be closer to armed police officers. day 31, entering the early hours of the morning, idf spokesperson says what remains the main focus is rescuing those hostages. >> hamas terrorist organization has been ruthlessly holding innocent hostages. we in the idf and isa and security organizations have not forgotten andic maing massive effort around the clock and collecting every shred of information and every opportunity, we address this with highest national priority. >> the idf says that it's moving all troops further, deeper into northern gaza, reaching to the shores of the mediterranean. this is several days after announcing forces had successfully encircled gaza city. they have taken out 2500 targets like infrastructure and tunnels as forces continue to search for senior commanders and calling on residents to flee, dropping a mill pamphlets over gaza urging residents to go south. it stopped firing for several hours to let civilians leave. u.s. secretary of state antony blinken met with mahmoud abbas in the west bank before traveling to iraq to meet the prime minister there. blinken calling for that humanitarian pause. as far as americans that are in gaza, we know as many as 400 americans contacted the state department trying to leave. about 300 have successfully made it out. trey. >> trey: alex, seems like the u.s. and others want this humanitarian pause and seems like israel is open to it, they just have a reasonable request. release the people you kidnapped. is hamas willing to entertain that or do they want to keep the hostages and get the ceasefire? >> well, trey, we again, 241 hostages there. what we know about the conditions, likely expectation that many of them, if not the majority of them are in this intricate system of underground tunnels. we've heard no cooperation from hamas, no attempt to either have families contact them, israeli forces continually ask if the red cross could get in to verify the conditions of the hostages that of course has not come to fruition at this point. more artillery tonight ramping up a lot of questions of what this will mean for the soldiers, their main focus dismantling hamas and finding the hostages. in reference to a ceasefire on the table, as far as israeli forces, they say no chance of ceasefire and the u.s. is pushing for that temporary pause, again not a ceasefire in their words. trey. >> trey: thank you for risking your personal safety to bring information we need. stay safe. >> thank you. >> trey: the war in the middle east is raising the threat of terrorism in the u.s. to a new level according to fbi director christopher wray. multiple groups have called for attack against americans and urged followers to target jewish communities and there is mayhem in the region without any consequence from the u.s. joining us is mr. rob greenway, senior officer with the defense intelligence agency and u.s. army special forces veteran. thank you for joining us. is this becoming west versus aircrafts rab persian michael oher will it remain a war against terrorists who happen to behead children? >> thank you for having me on, i appreciate it. there is an opportunity for our opponents to make it between civilizations. we have seen this before and it failed. we can focus on the segment we have biggest problem with, the terrorists and sponsors and you named them in your dialogue a moment ago, that is tehran. if we hold tehran accountable, focus ourselves and israelis on the problem and not allow this to escalate to a clash between civilizations. >> trey: we heard from the head of hezbollah this week who blamed u.s. and israel for the war. he claimed he was just as surprised as the rest of us and claimed iran had nothing to do with it. you're the expert, i'm not, i find that hard to believe, but what do you think? >> fortunately, you don't have to be an expert, it is altogether evident, the head of tehran met with the supreme leader. all of them admitted to the fact they were collaborating before the attacks took place and the articles were published in "wall street journal" and "new york times." there is no secret about this and no one understanding either organization says this is tehran's control. we are seeing that play out on a daily basis. it is hard to believe that tehran is not responsible for this. >> trey: former president obama weighed in on the middle east by say nothing essence both sides have dirty hands. it strikes me one side has dirty and bloody hands, blood of innocent israelis. i don't understand this both side-ism, i want to be fair to him, but playing both sides when you got hostages held and raped and beheaded children did not seem to help matters. what did you think about what the former president had to say? >> so look, he may have been speaking more about himself than anyone else. i agree with you and most would agree the aggravated party here is israel who has every right to respond to october 7 in the way they are and any call for restraint are not doing justice to the victims of the terrorist attack, which included 33 americans temperature is not a surprise, that is the idea president obama and now president biden are using to apply to the region and it has been applied to the israel-palestine conflict and yielded no progress in the 40 plus years it's been attempted. we recognize that is not the case and that occurred during the trump administration. >> trey: the biden administration keeps warning iran, will the biden administration do anything other than warn iran? will they do something to retaliate against iran? >> they haven't yet in tehran and surrogates don't believe they will and the attacks will escalate and it will be worse. we are deterring ourselves, not iran. >> trey: thank you for joining us on sunday night, i have a sneaky suspicion we'll be talking again as the war rages on. >> thank you. >> trey: from the college classroom to the town square, antisemitism is on the rise, fuelled by the sament hate as yester year, the israeli special envoy for combating antisemitism joins us next on "sunday night in america." ar, the israeli spe for combating antisemitism joins us next on "sunday night in america." ster year, the israelil envoy for combating antisemitism joins us next on "sunday night in america." i'm an actor in an ad, who was given 12 seconds to remind you that if you're high, just don't drive. 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[chanting] >> from the river to the sea. from the river to the city. >> we will remember in 2024. >> trey: alexandria is in delaware as the white house responds. >> alexandria: you just saw on the screen, that last line of that video accusing the president of the united states of supporting genocide, not just president of the free world, member of rashida tlaib's own party. couple weeks ago, the white house was speaking out about comments made by squab members. the white house did respond today. >> we strongly disagree with that messaging and terms used to describe the conflict. some characterizations we believe have technical definition and histore cal resonance and weight we are messengers do not accept their application to this are wa. >> alexandria: wordy in the response. it has been requested that rashida tlaib apologize writing in a thread on x, the phrase from river to the sea is violence and counter productive against peace. tense situation and makes it harder for our community to find common ground. the phrase from the river to the sea, implies israel being erased from existence. bernie sanders responded and clarified what she feels a ceasefire means. >> you don't know how you could have a permanent ceasefire with an organization like hamas dedicated to turmoil and chaos and destroying the state of israel. >> when i say ceasefire, i understand you can't have a permanent ceasefire, that is not really realistic, you call for a ceasefire, it is a negotiated settlement. >> alexandria: the white house has not responded to the vandalism that took place at the white house last night, trey. >> trey: i'm sitting here scratching my head, i'm defending joe biden more than the white house is. they said technical definition, genocide, there is largely accepted definition for genocide, that is not something you accuse anyone of, much less someone in your own party. is that a forceful respond the white house will give us, a technical definition? >> alexandria: you know, i doubt it is. i think that sound bite was the response from the white house we got today. i think that was in regard to from the river to the sea, accusing the president of the united states of genocide, that was written in text on the screen, very intentional. we heard back strongly from the white house about comments from squad members. i hope we will hear more from the white house tomorrow. >> trey: you are probably right, probably in reference to the river to the sea and that means pushing israel into the sea, that is not good either. thank you for joining us on sunday night, we'll visit again soon. representatives are supposed to reflect views of their constituent, i'd be surprised if the good people of minnesota are represented by someone like ilhan omar who cannot bring herself to condemn hamas, antisemitism and opposition against jews. we shall see what the people in minnesota think, her opponent's name is dahlia alakidi. your opponent criticized the u.s. for giving money to israel for the iron dome and self defense, what is your view on that? >> thank you, trey, for having me on and you nailed it. i came to israel from ground zero of antisemitism in the united states, led by the most antisemitic lawmaker in history. i came here to represent the good people of the fifth district, good people of minnesota that we are not a supporter of terrorists like hamas. trey, i just yesterday viewed the 45 minute horrific video of what hamas terrorists have done since october 7 and saw them waving the isis flag. when we say hamas is there a dream that you have, sherri, that's really wild that you still want to live out? they have their flag. i've seen terrible scenes that the public has not seen yet and you know what, it's sickening and sad that we have lawmakers and politicians that support these blood thirsty killers. >> trey: you are right, most have not seen the videos because they cannot see them, they are unwatchable, you can't show them on television. rashida tlaib makes no effort to conceal anti-jewish effort, accused joe biden and the rest of us of committing genocide. i wonder if represent ilhan omar believe that also, the u.s. is committing genocide when it supports israel and defending itself? >> enough to read what she posts on twitter and facebook, social media, thee are clear and poisonous more than rashida tlaib. the thing is, we don't need these people in our country as leaders as politicians. ilhan omar over and over and over kept saying since day one that the jews or israelis remember it is all about the benjamin. ilhan omar, she's never shy of expressing her feelings and that is why we all need to -- americans need to unite against the toxic politicians. that is why i wanted to come to israel to tell the israelis that we americans are with you. we are not represented by the few who cannot differentiate between good and evil. >> trey: well, we look forward to watching that race and look forward to having you back on. you want to talk about education and other issues, not simply two muslim women running from different parties. we will have you on again, thank you for joining us this sunday night. >> thank you and i would invite everybody to check dalia for congress.com, to learn more about our district. >> trey: yes, ma'am, thank you so much. for all the talk about the evolution of the human condition, someone forgot to tell hamas, hezbollah and the houthis, someone forgot to tell the facult and he students at u.s. colleges and universities and forgot to tell a dozen members of congress. if you want the attention of college and university officials, don't complain, stop donating, take your money back, put it to better use, start a college fund for orphans, build a monument for the children beheaded, the innocent taken hostage, don't give to colleges afraid of their own students. joining us is israel special envoy for combating antisemitism. thank you so much for joining us. new century, same acts of violence against the jewish people temperature is hard to see much progress has been made. i would have said progress had been made, it is hard to see, you're the expert, what do you say? >> first of all, thank you, trey. as you noted, antisemitism has been around for thousands of years, ever mutating virus and post-covid we understand new strains of virus need to be address. october 7 made it clear, antizionism or right to exist in any border. the same antisemitism that crueled crimes against humanity of october 7 is the antisemitism that fuels the response that deny, that justify and excuse the atrocity of october 7 and attack jews in their wake. we have a new strain of this ever mutating virus. it is on campuses and online and in congress and on the streets. if we are to identify and combat it, it challenges our shared humanity in civilization. if we combat it, we have to inoculate our society against this strain of antisemitism that denies israel's right to exist in any border. >> trey: start by calling it what it is. i want to play a quote from john kirby for you and then ask you a question on the other side. >> the people in this country making violent antisemitism threats, are they domestic terrorists? >> i don't know that we're classifying people as domestic terrorists for that. that is really a question better left to law enforcement, i'm not aware of such a characterization of that. >> trey: i'm not going to insert you in u.s. tol p politics, othr than ask you this, congressman gallagher referred to tiktok as digital fentanyl, and that is where most young people get their news. why are young people marching in support of hamas? have they not read the history books or know the history of this? if you get information from tiktoks, digital fentanyl, that is the answer to my question. >> this is assault on american values, anyone that cannot condemn burning, rape, mutilation and murder of thousands issue the abduction, there are 240 plus baby, elderly, holocaust survivors held in gaza. anyone that can't condemn that is threatening the foundation of american democracy. we said we cannot commit anything, international holocaust remembrance alliance definition, has been adopted by the united states and has to be adopted by universities and the white house to identify and combat this form of lethal hate that as i said, does not only target the jewish people or jews in this country on campuses and on the street and on social media, it threatens and is war and assault on our shared ci civil civilization, what starts with the jews never ends with the jews. 2023 is not 1943, never again for israel and for jews means we will defend ourselves even if we die doing so. beer cloo, israel and jews may be the bloody canary in the mindshaft. this antisemitic hate is lethal and threaten the foundation of our democracies. >> trey: michal is fighting hate of the jewish people, thank you for joining us on sunday night. effort to discipline three members of congress failed last week, will congress get back to work or will bitterness remain? jim jordan has one of the most important jobs in congress and he joins us next. ss, he >> trey: welcome back to "sunday night in america." one year from today, america goes back to the polls, the whole house is on the ballot, which means narrow gop majority could grow, shrink or remain razor thin. one thing we do know, for at least the next year, the gop controls the house, which means jim jordan controls the judiciary committee and the gentleman from ohio joins us now. one thing that will be before congress are survileance programs. take a listen to the fbi director and i'll ask a question on the other side. >> we cannot and do not discount the possibility that hamas may conduct attacks here on our own soil. >> trey: you know, chairman, i don't doubt that he's telling the truth, i know the fbi sometimes uses the terror threat as justification to get you to reauthorize programs. >> i think they will exploit our border, 150 known terrorists on the terrorist watch list come into the country. story of one wandering around for a couple weeks before they apprehended him. the concern is you have a white house that project weakness, you have a border that is open and this evil terrorist organization, hamas and others potentially going to exploit all that to israelis and jewish people in israel and americans, as well. that is a big concern and you are right, there is implication for this fisa reauthorization. we'll focus on doing it the right way and protecting our constitutional rights as we work on this over the next month and a half. >> trey: chairman, mike johnson served on your committee, he is known when i was there, known to be a quiet, hard-working, humble member. listen to what jen psaki had to say and i'll ask a question on the other side of that. >> the bible doesn't just inform his world view, it is his world view, in fact during his first speech in new job johnson suggested his election was an act of god, talk about a humble brag there. essentially what you you'd expect from a religion fundamentalist, more divisive than divine. >> trey: chairman, when i heard that, i didn't necessarily just think about mike johnson, i thought about my wife and your wife polley, people who live according to the bible and she is belittling people, not just mike johnson, anyone who thinks the bible is the roadmap for their life. >> yeah, and mike johnson is a good man, solid man, a christian man, constitutional scholar, argued cases in front of the supreme court, member of judiciary committee. mike is a hard-working member of congress and i think he's off to a great start as speaker of the house and will do a great job for the american people. since when it is a problem to have christian beliefs and values. the document that launched liberty, declaration of independence starts off talking about the creator. i get ticked off when you hear the left criticize good people like your wife, my wife and like speaker johnson. >> trey: what else ticks me off, joe biden and nancy pelosi consider to be devout, that is what politico and "washington post" and "new york times" tell us they are devout. but amy comey barrett, they are nut jobs. >> just alito, justice thomas, justice kavanaugh, people who are strong in faith, only if you are left wing you are devout and doing things the right way. jen psaki is same person when press secretary stood in the press briefing room and said most americans get news from social media platforms, we are working with the platforms to limit what americans can see. i was like, the press person is talking about limiting free press, first amendment from the white house press room, that is jen psaki, i don't put a lot of weight in what she has to say. >> trey: chairman jim jordan, at least another year as chairman of the judiciary committee. thank you for joining us, look forward to watching you over the next year and having you back on. take care. coming up, looking like a third party candidate may have a real impact in 2024, but which existing party will be hurt the most? 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joining us is former congressman from the great state of south carolina and no label national director, joe cunningham. welcome, congressman. it seems americans are kicking the tires on a new party. do you think they will take it for a test drive? >> joe: well, the numbers suggest, trey, that they will. we started looking at no labels couple years ago, sizing up this sequel, biden-trump rematch, we found that majority of americans, two-thirds of the country do not want to see this rematch. no label securing access across the country, on dozen ballots, as of today and we have a strategy to get on all 50 plus washington, d.c., before all said and done to give americans another choice and that is what they want. >> trey: congressman, you and i were in alabama together this week and both took note of this poll we just made reference to, where president trump is leading president biden in nearly all the so-called swing states. if you and i notice it, couple guys from south carolina, you know the white house noticed it. will they put pressure on you to stay out of the 2024 race or do they think a third party helps biden and hurts trump? >> we will not listen to the white house, we're learning to the american people. the message is loud ander cloo, which is they want another option and we're preparing to give it to emthis. that is why we've been engaged with our strategy. look, we are unique moment in our country's history, trey, people look at both options and think to themselves, this is united states of america, greatest country on earth and these are the best we can do? america deserves better and that is what we're prepared to give them. >> trey: when i think of political party, i think of nominating convention and primaries. do you anticipate no labels having a president, vice president nominated and how might the process work? >> we're preparing to have a convention in the spring of 2024 in dallas, texas and still hammering out the details as to what the convention will look like, the nomination details and look to roll out the information this fall thchl is geared toward giving americans another choice if they wanted it and under the biden-trump rematch, seems like americans want another oping and that is indicated by the numbers you put up a moment ago. >> trey: two issues as i see it, you may have a different view and i want you to say it. policy issues drive people to want a third party and then what has become a politics, it is bitter and partisan. are there like policy positions that no labels would stake out and be dissimilar, different from what the republicans and democrats are advocating for or is it more just the messaging, the manner in which the candidate communicate? >> i think it is a bit of both, trey. i think the gallup poll, last gallup poll had 50% of americans identifying as independent. americans are becoming less and less partisan because they are sick of what is being offered. they are drifting away from that. most americans don't feel they are represented in washington, d.c., they see both extremes, but the truth of the matter, most americans can find consensus on most contentious issues. most americans want a strong and secure border to keep our country safe. polling showing majority of americans believe dreamers, children brought into our country through no fault of their own and most times don't know another language deserve a pathway to citizenship. there is policies we can find consensus on, overall americans feel lack of trust in the system and politics and partisanship and they want a breath of fresh air. >> trey: joe cunningham from the great state of south carolina, no labels national director and brand new father, go get some rest, joe. >> joe: appreciate it, thanks so much. >> trey: coming up, being in high school, especially for young women, is already hard enough. now a new enemy, a new fear. ai created fake new images, next on "sunday night in america." >> welcome bac >> trey: welcome back to "sunday night in america." technology can be a force for good or not. drugs can ease you should pain or leave you mired in addiction. guns can hunt for food or kill children. ai can diagnose disease or do what it did to a group of young women in new jersey who were victimized when ai generated fake nude images of them and circulated among students. their faces issue the rest was salacious and perhaps criminal. what is future of ai, who is policing it and can you rely on it? joining us is tech policy center director at heritage foundation, kara frederick. as you might imagine, my first reaction perpetrate the perpetrators. it would be a crime if images were real, what do we do if the images are partially real and partially fake, what does the law do about that? >> kara: this is the question, isn't it? first step, you have to engage in ib laelling. there has to be some sort of watermark or chain of uft dee with gen rative ai. these are synthetic media, digital forgery of content, of videoings and photos like in this area and audio and whatnot, that can fool the untrained eye and ear. before, you used to have to have output that were realistic. now you can train a machine on one photo and output can look eareerimmy similar to the real thing. you have to start with trans transparency, explainable ai and take from there. >> trey: we will hear from the real thing, hear from two people impacted by this and i'll ask a question on the other side. a mom and daughter. >> i know there is such a thing as digital footprint that lasts forever and there have been disstris uped to snapchat, they are out there. we are trying to retrack them. cyber harassment policy, there should be consequences. >> trey: who is policing it? seem like technology outraces lethors, what is the state of policing this technology now? >> kara: we have a framework from the biden administration in the form of executive order last week. it is decent, but there are devils in the details. it talks about discrimination and advancing equity, leftist policy. but if they can stick to general ai safety and guardrail framework, explain ablts, machines are capable of being audited and have degree of trace ablts, chain of custody, good first step. ability to impose cost on some of the bad actors is a cat and mouse game, we've seen it. baby steps, first step many are saying about executive order, that is good thing, it is i implementation that will matter. the mother and daughter. i'm a mother and we know scams are proliferrating with voice recognition and everybody has to be on guard and understand what that woman said, the digital footprint will last forever and bad actors looking at this. parents get your guard and radar up and the government will not save us, a lot is up to us. framework puts the bad actors on notes. >> trey: we have 30 seconds. i will ask you a question i get all the time and steal your answer and pass off as my own. how do we know what is real and what is not? what is fake and what is not with all the technology out there? >> kara: good question, there are ai tools that deticket and disrupt forgeries. there is authentication. fight fear with fire, play the cat and mouse game well. that is what we have to rely on and your own intuition. if it looks fake, approach it w. >> trey: i will pass your answer off in my own, which is sort of fake, i will do it anyway. thank you for joining us on sunday night and thank you for spending part of your sunday with us. find us on the trey gowdy podcast. good night from south carolina. >> todd: a fox news alert, israel