for joining us i am trey gowdy ended "sunday night in america". israeli defense forces continue to pound thomas. circling gaza city and rejecting calls from president biden and so-called humanitarian pods. israel says if you want a pause release the hostages. otherwise israel is reluctant to stop and allow hamas time to regroup and rearm in the world might think should be reluctant to take the word of a terrorist group that the heads children. alex hogan is live in southern israel enjoins us now. >> we really started to hear the artillery picked up with the loudest blast that our team has heard in our entire time here in israel where you can feel the pressure and hear the echo rippled off into the distance, there is also gunfire we can hear what appears to be machine gun fire off in the distance in the direction of the gaza strip, there were some soldiers earlier tonight who asked us to cross the street to be a little bit closer to armed police officers, what we see day 31 as we enter the early hours of this morning, the idf spokesperson says what remained the main focus is rescuing those hostages. >> thomas terrorist organization has been holding innocent hostages. we in the idf and the isi and all of the security organizations have not forgott forgotten. we are making an effort around-the-clock and collecting every shred of information and taken advantage of every operational opportunity. we continue to address this with the highest national priority. >> the idf says it's moving all of its troops further, deeper into northern gaza reaching as far as the shores of the mediterranean. this comes after announcing forces had successfully encircled gaza city. the idf says it's taken actually 500 hamas targets like infrastructure, tunnels as forces continue to search for senior commanders. israel once again calling on residents to flee releasing the video forces dropping more than a million pamphlets over gaza urging residents to go south idf also says in the last couple of days is stop firing for several hours to let civilians leave, today u.s. secretary of state anthony blinken met with palestinian authority mohammed in the west bank before traveling to iraq to meet with the prime minister there, anthony blinken once again calling for the humanitarian pods as many as 400 americans tried to leave and we know 300 of them according to the white house have successfully made it out. trey: it seems like the u.s. and others want to humanitarian pods and it seems like israel is open to it they just have a pretty reasonable request release the people that you kidnapped. is hamas willing to entertain or do they want to keep the hostages and get the cease-fire? >> again, georgia 41 hostages. what we know about the condition the likely expectation that many of them if not the majority are in the intricate system of underground tunnels. we heard no cooperation from hamas, no attempt to either have families contact them from the israeli forces continually asking the red cross can get into verify the conditions of the hostages and that of course has not come to for which and at this point more artillery ramping up in a lot of questions of what this will mean for the soldiers, the main focus dismantling hamas and fighting the hostages. in reference to what you're asking if the cease-fire is on the table. as far as israeli forces, there is no chance of his cease-fire but the u.s. is pushing with a temporary pause again not a cease-fire in their words. trey: thank you for risking your own personal safety to bring us the information that we need. stay safe. >> thank you. >> the war in the middle east is raising the threat of terrorism in the u.s. to a new level that is according to the fbi director christopher wray. multiple terror groups have called for attacks against americans and urge their followers to target jewish communities. meanwhile iran continues to be the orchestrate tour of mayhem in the region, largely without any consequence from the u.s. joining us mr. rob greenway who served on the national security council and a senior officer with the defense intelligence agency and the u.s. army special forces veteran. thank you so much for joining us. is this becoming a west versus arab persian war or can it remain a war against terrorist who happen to be had children. >> thank you. for having me on. i think there's an opportunity for opponents and we seen this attempt before. it has failed and if we are careful we can focus on the segment and the biggest problem which is a terrorist themselves and the sponsors behind them. you name them just a moment ago that is tehran. if we are successful at holding tehran accountable i think we can focus ourselves and the israelis on the terrorist is a problem and not allow this to escalate into something that is a clash between civilizations. >> we heard from the head of hezbollah who blamed the u.s. and israel for the war and he also claimed he was just as surprised as the rest of us and he claimed iran had nothing to do with it. you are the expert i am not i find that very hard to believe but what do you think. >> fortunately you don't have to be an expert, it's altogether evident that the head of hamas was in tehran beating with the supreme leader, we know all of them have essentially admitted to the fact that they were collaborating before the attacks took place in the articles were published in the wall street journal and the new york times. there is no secret about this and no one understands either organization would tell you there is a world that this would occur without tehran's direct control and that's what we see play out on a daily basis. it is impossible to withhold the belief that tehran is not in fact responsible for this. >> are former president obama weighed in on the middle east by saying both sides have dirty hands. it strikes me however, that one side is dirty and blood he hands and that would be the blood of innocent israelis. i don't understand this both side is them that he engaged in over the weekend, i want to be fair with him but playing both sides when you have hostages being held and raped and beheaded children did not seem to help matters. what did you think about what the former president had to say. >> he may have been speaking more about himself than anyone else but i agree with you and i think most would agree the aggravated party is israel that has every right to respond to the brutal terrorism in october 7 in the way that they are in any cause for restraint and equivocation are not doing justice to the victims of the terrorist attack which included 33 americans but it is not a surprise. that is the idea that president obama and now president biden are using to apply to the region and has been applied to the israel palestine conflict and yielded absolutely no progress in the 40 plus years it is been attempted only when we recognize that is not the case and we made progress and that's what occurred during the trump administration. trey: we have 30 seconds but i have to ask goodbye did administration keeps warning iran, will the biden administration ever do anything then worn iran will they actually do something to retaliate against iran? >> they have not yet in tehran in this arrogance to believe that they will. if that is the case the attacks will escalated all be worse. we are appeasing and deterring ourselves not iran. >> thank you so much for joining us on a sunday night. i have a suspicion that you and i will be talking again as the work continues on. thank you. >> thank you i look forward to it. >> coming up from the college classroom to the town square, anti-semitism is on the rise fueled by the same hate as yesteryear the israeli special envoy for combating anti-semitism joins us next on sunday night the chase ink business premier card is made for people like sam, who make- everyday products, designed smarter. like a smart coffee grinder, that orders fresh beans for you. oh, genius! for more breakthroughs like that- i need a breakthrough card. like ours! with 2.5% cash back on purchases of $5,000 or more. plus unlimited 2% cash back on all other purchases. and with greater spending potential, sam can keep making smart ideas- a brilliant reality! the ink business premier card from chase for business. make more of what's yours. mara, are you sure you don't want -to go bowling with us tonight? 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[shouting] >> we will remember in 2024. >> alexandria hoffa's in delaware as a white house response. alexandria? >> you just saw on the screen the last line of the video accusing the president of the united states of supporting genocide not just the president of the free world a member of congresswoman to leaves own party if you remember a couple weeks ago the white house was speaking out against squad members and the use terms like disgraceful and repugnant. the white house did respond today but their words were not as direct. >> we strongly disagree with some of the messaging and the terms used to describe this conflict, the characterizations and the terms used have technical definitions and historical precedents and we do not accept their application to this particular war. >> a little wordy in their response, follow democratic congresswoman requested to apologize for the video and the phrases used within it a part of a thread on ask the phrase from the river to the sea is a division of violence counterproductive to promoting peace none of the elected leader should amplify a language that inflames intense situations and makes it harder for communities to find common ground. you mention the phrase from the river to the sea it does imply israel being erased from existence. bernie sanders responded to rashida tlaib and squad members for the cease-fire while progressive house member attempted to clarify what she feels is cease-fire means. >> i don't how you can have a permanent cease-fire with an organization like hamas which is dedicated to turmoil and chaos in destroying the state of israel when i say cease-fire i understand we can't have a permanent cease-fire that is not really realistic. but what you do you call for a cease-fire it's a negotiated settlement. >> the white house has not responded to the vandalism that took place at the white house last night. >> you know alexandria i'm sitting there scratching my head i'm defending joe biden and the white house they said the technical definition, there is a largely accepted definition for genocide that is not something that you accuse anyone much less in your own party, is that a forceful response that the white house will give us a technical definition. >> i doubt it, i think maybe the soundbite and that was a response from the white house that we got today. but i'm thinking that was in regards to the river to the sea because accusing the president of the united states of genocide was not a slip of the tongue that was written out in text on the screen it was very intentional and a couple of weeks ago we heard strongly from the white house for into israel statements from squad members. i'm assuming perhaps hoping we will hear more from the white house hopefully tomorrow the. >> you're probably right it was probably a reference from the river to the sea but that means pushing israel into the sea that is not good either. thank you for joining us on a sunday night we will visit with you again very soon. >> representatives are supposed to reflect the views of their constituents but i would be surprised if the good people of minnesota are truly represented by somebody like ilhan omar who cannot bring herself to condemn hamas, anti-semitism and new trafficking discrimination against jews she has opposition next fall, we shall see what the people minnesota think in her opponent joins us now. welcome. your opponent this week criticize the u.s. for giving money to israel for the iron dome and self-defense, what is your view on that. >> thank you for having me on and you nailed i came from israel from ground zero of anti-semitism in the united states led by the most anti-somatic lawmaker in histo history. i came here to represent the good people of the district, the good people of minnesota that we are not a supporter of terrorist like hamas. yesterday i viewed the 45 minute horrific video of what hamas terrorist have done since october 7. i saw them waving isis flags. when we say hamas is isis, they have their flags. i've seen terrible terrible scenes that the public hasn't seen yet. and you know what, it is sickening and sad that we have lawmakers and politicians that support the bloodthirsty kille killers. trey: you are right most people have not seen these videos because they cannot see them. they are unwatchable, you cannot show them on television. but rashida tlaib makes literally no effort to conceal her anti-jewish beliefs. she accused joe biden and the rest of us of committing genocide. i wonder if representative bill han omar believes that also that the u.s. is supporting a genocide when it backs israel and defending itself. >> it is enough to watch or read what she post on twitter and facebook and social media she's quite clear and more poisonous than the russians claim. the thing is we don't need these people in our country as leaders and politicians. ill han omar over and over she kept saying since day one that the jews or israel is we all remember it's all about the benjamin. it is quite clear ill han omar is never shy of expressing her feelings and that's why we all need to, as americans we need to unite against the toxic politicians. and that's why i wanted to come to israel to tell the israelis that we americans are with you. we are not represented by the few who cannot differentiate between good and evil. >> we look forward to watching that recent having you back on. i know you want to talk about education did other issues not simply to muslim women running from two different parties. we will have you want again, thank you for joining us on the sunday night. >> thank you i would invite everybody to check dalia for congress.org and know where i stand from very important issues for our district. trey: yes, ma'am. thank you so much. for all of the talk about the evolution of the human condition. someone forgot to tell hamas, hezbollah and the who sees in the faculty and students at some u.s. colleges and universities. someone forgot to tell a dozen members of congress if you want to get the attention of college and university officials, don't complain, stop donating, take your money back. put it to better use start a college fund for orphans her parents were killed or kidnapped and israel build a monument for the children that were beheaded the woman tortured the innocence taking hostage just don't give it to colleges afraid of their own students. joining us someone dedicated to identifying and addressing anti-semitism, israel special envoy for combating anti-semitism, thank you so much for joining us. a new century same acts of violence against the jewish people. it is hard right now to see that much progress has been made. i would say progress had been made two months ago but right now it is hard to see, you are the expert what do you say. >> thank you, as you noted anti-semitism is better for thousands of years it's a never mutating virus and now post covid we understand new strains of a virus need to be addressed ever going to combat them in the new strain october 7 made it very clear is anti-zionism or the denial of israel's right to exist in any border. the very same anti-semitism the fuel, the atrocities, the war crimes and crimes against humidity of october 7 is in fact the anti-semitism that fuels the responses that deny and justify an excuse the atrocities of october 7 and attack jews in their wake. indeed we have a new strain of ever mutating virus. it's on campus is as you said, it's online it's in congress, it's in the streets and if we are to identifying combat because the challenges really are shared humidity in the civilization if were to identifying combat it we have to inoculate our society against this strain of anti-semitism, that is the strain that denies israel's right to exist in any border. >> we gotta start by calling it what it is. i want to play a quote from john kirby and ask you a question on the other side. >> the people in this country making violent anti-somatic threats are they domestic terrorists? >> i don't know that were classifying people as domestic terrorist for that. it's really a question better left to law-enforcement and i'm not aware there has been a characterization of the. >> i'm not going to insert you in u.s. politics but let me ask you this congressman mike gallagher from the great state of wisconsin referred to tiktok as digital fentanyl in tiktok is where most young people get their news. i'm trying to figure out why young people are out there marching in support of hamas. have they not read the history books, do they not build the history of this and if you get your information from tiktok and it is digital fentanyl, that is the answer to my question. >> let's be very clear this is not a assault on american values and anybody who cannot condemn the burning, the rape, the mutilation, the murder of thousands, the abduction, we know with 240 plus babies, elderly, holocaust survivors held in the hell of gaza. anybody that can condemn that is threatening the foundation of american democracy but i want to say something there is a definition of anti-semitism, we cannot identifier combat anything without defining it and we have a definition international holocaust remembrance alliance definition the result of a process that's been adopted by the united states and now has to be adopted by universities, cities, law enforcement mechanisms, by the white house itself to identify and combat the form of lethal hate that as i said is not only target the nation-state of the jewish people were jews in this country on campuses and on the street on social media it actually threatens and a war and an assault on our shared civilization on american values and we know very well from history that what starts with the jews never ends with the jews, 2023 is not 1943. never again for the state of israel and jews around the world means we will defend ourselves even if we die doing so but let it be clear where israel and jews may be the bloodied canary in the mineshaft it will collapse unless societies are committed to identifying and combating the ever mutating into some medicaid that is lethal and threatening the foundation of our democracies. >> fighting a centuries-old battle against a of the jewish people. thank you so much as joining us on a sunday night. >> thank you for having me. >> up next effort is to discipline three members of congress failed will congress get back to work or will the bitterness remain. jim jordan is known for his worth ethic and he has all the important jobs in congress, he known as a passionate artist. known for loving the outdoors. known for getting everyone together. no one wants to be known for cancer, but a treatment can be. keytruda is known to treat cancer. fda-approved for 16 types of cancer, including certain early-stage cancers. one of those cancers is triple-negative breast cancer. keytruda may be used with chemotherapy medicines as treatment before 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think more than exploiting the hamas exploiting the terror threat in the middle east i think they will exploit our border 150 known terrorist on the terrorist watch list have come into the country there is a story of one wandering around for a couple of weeks before they apprehended him. i think the real concern you have a white house that projects weakness in a border that is open and evil terrorist organization, hamas and others that will potentially exploit all of that not only to israelis and jewish people in the state of israel but americans as well. that is a big concern, there is implications for the pfizer reauthorization that were dealing with we're going to focus doing and the right wing protecting the first, fourth, protecting our constitutional rights as we work on this over the next month at half. trey: mike johnson served on your committee he is known to be a very quiet hard-working humble member. i want you to listen to what jen psaki had to say and i'm going to ask you a question on the other side of that. >> the bible doesn't just inform his worldview, it is his worldview. during his speech at his new job johnson suggested his election as speaker was an act of god talk about humble brag his use and policy are essentially what you would expect from religious fundamentalists they are more divisive than divine. trey: you know when i heard that i did not necessarily think about mike johnson i thought about my wife and your wife polly, people who live their lives according to the bible and there she is belittling those people, not just mike johnson but anyone who thinks the bible is a roadmap for their life. >> mike johnson is a good man, a solid man a christian man and a constitutional scholar and argued cases in front of the supreme court member of the judiciary in the select committee and weaponization. mike is a hard-working member of congress and i think is off to a great start as speaker of the house and doing a great job not just for the republican conference but more importantly for the american people and sense when is it a problem to have christian beliefs and believe in judeo-christian values. after all the documents that launch this experiment we call america the declaration of independence starts off about the creator for goodness sakes. i get a little ticked off when you hear people from the left criticize good people like your wife and my wife and like speaker johnson. >> i'll tell you what else ticks me off, joe biden and nancy pelosi considered to be devout that's what political in the washington post tell us there devout the amy coney barrett and mike johnson are not jobs and i get mad about it too. not for me. >> justice alito, justice hamas, justice kavanaugh people who are strong in their faith as well. only a few left-wing that your devout and doing things the right way. by the way jen psaki is the same person when she was press secretary stating in the white house press briefing room saying most 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issues affecting a vacant quality of life but both face challenges with that emergence of a popular third-party movement. there is a third party have a chance to win? or keep someone else from winning. >> joining us former congressman from the great state of south carolina and no labels national director joe cunningham. welcome to you congressman. it seems americans are kicking the tires on a new party but do you think will take it for a test drive. >> the numbers suggest that they will. we started looking at this no labels a couple of years ago sizing up this sequel biden trump rematch and what we found was the same thing that we see in today's polls, the majority of americans, two thirds of our country do not want to see a rematch. no labels has been securing access across the country and worried doesn't balance as of today and we have a strategy to get out all 50 plus washington, d.c. before this is also been done to give americans another choice and that's what they want. >> congressman you and i were in alabama together this week and we both took note of this poll that we made reference to where president trump is leading president biden now in the so-called swing states. if you and i noticed it a couple of guys from south carolina you know the white house noticed it. will they put more pressure on you to stay out of the 2024 race or do they think third-party helps biden and hurts trump. >> were not listening to the white house were listening to the american people, the message received from them is loud and clear they want another option were preparing to give it to them. that's why we've been engaged with our strategy. where a unique moment in our country's history where people are looking at both of these options and thinking to themselves this is united states of america the greatest country on earth and these are the best we can do. we think america deserves better and that's what we are prepared to give them. >> what i think of a political party i think nominating conventions, take a primary, do you anticipate no labels having a nominating convention with the president, vice president nominated and how my thought process work? >> we are preparing to have a convention in the spring of 2024 in dallas, texas and were still hammering out the details as to what the conventions going to look like in the whole nomination process and look to be rolling out all the details later on this fall. this is all geared towards giving americans another choice if they wanted it. and under the biden trump rematch it seems like most americans want another option, that's indicated by the numbers that you put up amended ago. >> congressman two issues as i see it you may have a different view, the policy issues that drive people to want a third party and then what's become of politics so bitter and partisan. are there policy positions that no labels with stakeout that would be dissimilar, different from what the republicans and democrats are advocating 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