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The thousands of israeli troops in the south staging. After winning in different combats against hamas, we found on their bodies different instructions. How many people to rape. What to do with them afterwards. To behead the bodies. The terrorists as you can see were dressed in idf uniforms. Once people opened the door, they sent rpgs in the house. Two hostages have been released in gaza. 17 days into the war, the red cross now confirming two israeli hostages have been released from gaza. This is as israel holds off on the Ground Invasion. Welcome. Im Charles Payne in for neil cavuto, this is your world. First to mike tobin and what were learning about the two additional releases and the chances for more. Mike . You mentioned, charles, the red cross confirms that were now getting pictures of the two israeli hostages that have been released from a hamas captivica. A 79 and 80yearold. A release was put out earlier today saying that they were released for humanitarian reasons. Hamas is the people that took them hostage in the first place on a they when they massacred hundreds and hundreds of people on the other side of the border. Lots of information coming out as far as how the negotiations went and the potential for releases dozens more people with foreign passports. The israelis want all of the hostages released. They want to keep in mind a couple of people that hamas said they offered up to Israel Sunday and just released them today. That was two days after we saw the release of a couple of americans. A mother and daughter duo from ev ev ev ev evanston, illinois. They were reunited with family. Charles . Now to the white house. The president just remarked on the americans being held in gaza. Jacqui heinrich has more. Jacqui . Theres been a lot of reporting that the white house has declined to confirm about the timing of an Israeli Ground invasion, whether the u. S. Urged a delay particularly for the release of hostages or safe passage of civilians there. And now whether the u. S. Is in support of a temporary cease fire to allow for those hostages to be released. The president spoke to this very briefly on his way to the situation room. We should have the hostages released and then talk. Just before the president spoke, fox news confirmed the two additional hostages were released. The president was asked to comment. He declined to speak to it. The white house is looking for an aid package to fund israel and ukraine. Theres questions about whether the u. S. Failing to articulate the longterm strategy and whether that will erode any congressional support. With ukraine aid, a frequent criticism of this administration is that they kept pushing for money but didnt articulate exactly what the end game was in ukraine. Are you concerned that not being clear with folks about what the u. S. Is advising israel to to will hamper support in congress for this aid . Weve been very clear and consistent throughout and that includes with members of congress. Yes, we need congressional support. We have enough appropriations available to us for a while longer. How long is that while will depend on the Expenditure Rate and the kind of operations that theyre conducting. Another headline here today. Officials failed to specifically condemn the rise in antisemitic rhetoric that were hearing at College Campuses in the u. S. Citing the first amendment. They did make clear that theyre strongly opposed to antisemitism and any form of hate, charles. Charles jacqui, thanks very much. The white house says theyre not dictating the timing of the Ground Invasion. With me now, a member of the israeli army and former israeli ambassador to the u. N. Just your reaction to this latest release. Two additional hostages. Always happy to see hostages coming back to israel. We dont forget that were more than 200 kidnapped hostages including nine months old baby. Holocaust survey investors. We will continue. Continue to do everything in our power and get all of them back home. Charles is there an act of negotiation or are they cherry picking these folks for Public Relations consumption . No, negotiation whatever. Theyre playing a game. They know were coming after them, after the atrocities that they committed against us. Today we have more pictures. Woe interrogated some of the terrorists. They got orders to rape, to behead, to burn kids alive. So that was orders coming from hamas. Now theyre trying to play the game. Were not buying it. We intend to go in to gaza to find them, to hunt them and to kill them. Charles we know about war crimes throughout history of human kind. When you say that these are ordered though, is there a chance that at some point to share with the world the actual orders . To see this in writing or whatever the communication was that the leadership said go in there and behead babies, go in there and rape women. That would be so bone chilling. We know it happened, but the idea that it was mandated boggles the mind. Its something that all humanity around the world would be amazed to understand. Youre absolutely right, charles. I will do that. We have Tin Teargation footage. We will translate it from arabic and show the world what order that they received. Unfortunately, they were very successful in what they did in our communities. More than 1,400 people were massacres in eight hours. Since the date of the holocaust, we havent seen such atrocities against jewish people. But the days when jews were massacred and nobody paid a price. Thats why our troops are ready. When the decision will be taken by the government, we will go in to gaza. It will not be easy. Theyre waiting for us. Our soldiers are ready to fight back and eliminate hamas. Charles weve heard will be from ground and land. We have seen the attack. Theres some air bombings to soften the target. Its too early to know. A lot of people the general consensus is obviously israel has the right and they need to do this. They need to eliminate this threat. Theres another battle going on particularly in america, but in the west, this Public Relations battle, the battle of sympathy. Seemed like the long they are goes on, the more likely there will be accidents, the less it would play in israels favor with the world. How much does it weigh or does it matter at all . Well, with it matters, but we what we do, we try to convince the civilian population to move south. 70 listened to our warning and moved to the south. We encourage the rest of the population not to stay there its not going to be pleasant when we go in. Thats a successful acted by israel. When we come in, we face the terrorists. We know theyre hiding in the tunnels. We will fight with them. The fact that they moved was successful. Charles as you speaking, were showing video of the latest hostages that were released just moments ago. So theyre receiving medical care. So before i let you go, you and i, weve had so many conversations over the last decade or so. Almost all under horrific circumstances. Did you ever think it would come down to Something Like this . Again, to get back to the original line of questioning. Something that i thought humanity, civilization had given up, these sort of attacks, this sort of evil. No, i have to admit, i have seen wars but wu never imagined to see such brutality. I think thats what they tried to do, to break us. They will not break us. Wee are strong, we are united. We formed a unity government. You see thousands of volunteers. Youll see the strength of the jewish people in israel. We will defeat them. Charles thanks, ambassador. Appreciate your time. Thank you, charles. Charles the u. S. Beefing up its Military Presence in the region with iran backed proxies acting up. Where is this heading . With President Biden pushing for more aid, Vivek Ramaswamy is pushing for more answers. How does he want to make this money conditional . Well ask him. Hit it it takes two to make a thing go right it takes two to make it outta sight one, two, get loose now it takes two to make a. Stay two nights and get 5k bonus points. Book direct at bestwestern. Com. This isnt just freight. These arent just shipments. Theyre promises. Promises of all shapes and sizes. Each, with a time and a place theyve been promised to be. A promise is everything to old dominion, because it means everything to you. Heres why you should switch fo to duckduckgo on all your Devie Duckduckgo comes with a builtn engine like google, but its pi and doesnt spy on your searchs and duckduckgo lets you browse like chrome, but it blocks cooi and creepy ads that follow youa from google and other companie. And theres no catch. Its fre. We make money from ads, but they dont follow you aroud join the millions of people taking back their privacy by downloading duckduckgo on all your devices today. Charles i want to point out, these are the images of video of the two israeli hostages released from gaza in rafah, egypt. Both receiving medical care and personal care there. Just a hug and a kiss. Jubilation. Theres dozens of hostages remaining, including american hostages. Two more released, this is a sight for sore eyes. Two israeli women being helped right now and back home. Meanwhile, folks, a u. S. Based Housing Troops in syria coming under drone attack. This is coming after the u. S. Is beefing all Military Presence in the middle east after drone attacks last week from iranian proxy forces. Rich edson has the latest. Rich . While the u. S. Military is arming israel, its bolstering their own defenses in the region. This comes as theres been an uptick in attacks against american forces. U. S. Central command says that happened overnight. Drone attacks that were intercepted headed towards american troops in syria. As part of this, the pentagon says that theyre focused on who is behind this. They especially say its iran backed proxies. We dont necessarily see that i ran has explicitly orders them to take these kinds of attacks. That said, by virtue of the fact that theyre supported by iran, we will hold iran responsible. Lloyd austin spoke with iraqi Prime Minister to discuss the protection of u. S. Forces in iraq. The past several days, officials have say they have intercepted drones and rockets and misses headed to american bases in key rack and syria. The u. S. S. Carney droned and missiles. To bolster u. S. Defenses, the u. S. S. Eisenhower headed to the gulf. The pentagon redirected it to the gulf. 2,000 sailors and marines ready to respond. All of this is on top of american aid to israel. Officials say that they have aid going to israel on a near daily basis now. Charles, back to you. Charles thanks, rich. So with an uptick in attacks on bases, does the u. S. Risk being drawn in to a further conflict . General breedlove joins us now. I want to start with the images we just shared. Two more israeli hostages released. Two elderly women. You can see the relief okay. So you can see the relief on the faces of the red cross workers there. Look at that. You can just sense the tension and the relief right there. Theyre still elderly and young hostages being held. So we hope this seen repeats itself over and over again as time goes on certainly before any sort of Ground Invasion happens. This is medics helping those Two Women In Rafah on the border. One is 79 years old, one is 80 years old. They just have been the late toast be set free. Thats four now hostages that have been released. Theres still 200 hostages that includes american hostages. A large part of this is hamas playing for general sympathy. By the same token, we appreciate the humanitarianism. I want to bring in former allied forces commander, general philip breedlove. Your thoughts on two more hostages released. One 80, one 79. Theres a good news part of it but a spin part as well. Clearly. Theyre working the messaging. Thanks for having me on, by the way. I heard some earlier reporting that i agree with. These are two individuals because of their age that were probably going to be an issue for them, keeping them safe and well. So i think they have taken advantage of that to try to, again, begin to win the Messaging Problem that they have. Charles lets talk about the u. S. , our greater Military Presence in the region obviously as this conflict goes on, the more likely there is that something will happen that draws us deeper and further in to this. How do you see it playing out at this particular moment . As you have seen, the two Carrier Battle Groups are not in their final positions yet. One has to pass through the canal and on in to the gulf to get to where its finally headed. If you look at what the United States has done, its positioning forces in the med and the gulf and using a good number of tactical and Strategic Air craft around to put them in position. The mu now is in the red sea. So we have a plan to pleas forces to be able to rapidly rein whatever direction the enemy might come from. What we see is in fact iran is firing everyone up in the region to begin to bring pressure on israel. I think that our military has been positioned to do what the president said. That is to deter and send a message. Dont test us now. Charles iran is playing a big role in this, russia is playing a big role in this and china is observing at the very least. These sort of skirmishes, war, conflicts, however you want to describe them are often from a Military Point of view a good chance to see what the enemy is capable of. We have seen some incredible things with drone usage in ukraine, they have used them successfully to beat back a stronger opponent. How much of this do you think iran will be using to potentially test america . I think we might have lost the general. Do we want to wait a second . Well ask that question later. Meantime, lites pivot here. In the middle of this, House Republicans, theyre set to meet tonight to search for a speaker. Why does texas republican Pete Sessions think hes the right man for the job . Well ask him. As we get alarming numbers of gotaways and those on the Terror Watch List crossing the southern border . The fbi sounding another alarm of lone wolf attacks within our borders. Its highlight because of the fluid and volatile environment in the middle east, this is a dangerous time. O thats for my health is an accomplishment. Concerns of getting screened faded away to my astonishment. My doc gave me a script i got it done without a delay. 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Kevin hern of oklahoma is one of the nine vying to become speaker. The question is who has brought people together. I spent 25 years in business working with the largest brand in the world, mcdonalds, bringing 3,500 franchisees together to pull on the same rope. You have to know what the problems are before you can get a solution. I think im best fit to do it. Its believe that tom emmer could have the inside track to security the most votes. Candidate Byron Donalds said he spoke with the former president a few days ago. Its been a rough couple of weeks. I think our members are ready to get this done. Im ready to get this done. The former president and i have have a very good relationship. That will continue. The members are going to solve this process. I think President Trump is going to be satisfied with whoever the next speaker of the house is going to be. Gop nebraska representative mike flood asked each of the nine candidates to sign a pledge of unity. That would force all candidates to support the nominee of the conference on the floor. Previously republicans have not stuck together. Im going to bring it up. Im going to ask each candidate where are you at, who do you unite this conference, how do you bring votes to the table. Its not just about the speaker vote. Its can that speaker bring enough votes to pass the farm bill. Can the speaker bring enough votes to past the National Defense authorization act. Gary palmer is the lone holdout on the pledge. House republicans are mulling the possibility of electing speaker pro tem Patrick Mchenry too get the house operating once again. Charles . Charles thanks, chad. Lets get to texas gop congressman Pete Sessions. One of the nine republicans running for that speakers job. Congressman, what will happen at this closed door meeting tonight . Charles, each of the members will talk about their background, what positions them to be successful and move forward with an agenda. I intend to do the same thing. I intend to run on the record, which i have established as the chairman of the National Republican Congressional Committee when we brought people together, when we were 40 seat back and won by 63, stayed after it and won. Never lost a vote on the rules. We had differences of opinion back then. Milk mulvaney, mark meadows. We have strong people that have great ideas. Im also going to announce that i bring the fundraising ability. My National Fundraising chairman and i got off the phone this afternoon. Were going to agree to raise 50 million. Im the first republican ever to run for speaker doing that. Theres a lot of support in texas. Were 23 million behind t thedccc. We have to catch up. We can get us together and we will be prepared and win next year. Charles right. I should point out, at the National Republican Congressional Committee, not only did you net gain 63 seats by 89 were freshmen members. That was a heck of a feat. You were originally a candidate to replace eric cantor. So why now . Why step up at this point when you had a chance before to go for it . Did you feel that Kevin Mccarthy was a better candidate or a better part of valor . No, i think that its all about timing. I think that right now we have been through two or three of our leading can digits. We have to present that the Republican Party works in the best interest not only of American Exceptionalism but also of capitalism. Theres a lot of doubt right now across the country. I think our leading players that have for years been a part of the success know this town, know how to make things happen. Thats why i put my name in the hat. Charles so representative, tom emmer was trending on twitter earlier today. A lot of folks out there concerned. Behind the scenes, everyone feels its a battle between the establishment Republican Party, many only whom have given up, a lot of them didnt run for reelection. Some lost their districts and the new maga Republican Party, which is a dominant voting base of your party right now. We had chad pergram talking about members being positioned. Are you taking seriously the grass roots part of this . If someone like tom emmer who by the way, ive had great conversations with is somehow placed in that job, the uproar within your party . There probably would be one. Weve had one both ways. Steve scalise as well as jim jordan who is a strong candidate with conservative credentials. I think that thats one of the reasons why im in the race. Arch conservative. I want to work to make sure that we protect and solve our border problem. As a texan, i have a lifelong conservative voting record. So i think it will be very, very interesting as we move forward to see how the conference thinks. Charles the clock is ticking. In fact, i want your thoughts on the two israeli hostages that were released. Two women elderly. A lot of americans being held hostage, too. Part of the narrative of the war is shifting over to a lack of leadership. Right . Theres 105 billion and a whole lot of other things that need to be resolved, negotiated, debated, legislated. How much will this all play a role in expediting this process . It should expedite the process. Thats why were serious. We can look our best supporters in the eye and say we believe this process will yield itself a better answer. What does that mean . That means in answer with a conservative candidate who is able to support israel, bring our conference together, go raise the money and be prepared to win next year. All of us together. These the history that i have. Thats why i put my name out. Charles representative sessions, thanks very much. Always a pleasure to talk to you. You bet, charles. Charles more answers before aid for israel . Thats what Vivek Ramaswamy wants what exactly is he looking for . Well ask him. First to greg palkot in israel. Greg . Were on the Israel Lebanon Border where we have been seeing escalating clashes between the Israeli Military and the hezbollah militants. Well have it for you coming up. Your ancestry is so much more than names and dates. Cmon its the story of your family then and now. A story that made your name mean something. A story youre still writing. So discover your heritage. Preserve your traditions. Represent all that makes you, you. Charles the grandson of one of the israeli hostages speaking moments ago. Did you believe this moment would come . I wanted to believe. Doesnt what i believe didnt believe. The fact is it came. Charles well have more on this story as we get it. As clashes along israel and p pal lebanons border ramp up. Greg palkot has more. Drama down south and action up north. A short time ago, we heard an israeli tank near us blasting away to the hillside here. Were about two miles away from the israeli lebanon border. Theres hezbollah militant positions there. The kind of clashes that weve been seeing this past week up and down this border. Israeli Defense Force claims that they have struck ten hezbollah terror cells in the past 24 hours. The latest casualty toll, 20 hezbollah fighters have been killed in the last two weeks. Seven Israeli Soldiers have been killed. Plus civilians. All of this leading to evacuations on both sides. Residents in 43 towns and villages here in israel have been told to leave. As many as 100,000 have fled. Some are still here and that is risk. This is where a Hezbollah Missile Hit here in northern israel. Came across the border and hit this private house. Did some damage. Police security, first responders, all rushed in to position. Its believed to have been an anti tank missile. Small in size. When fired from appeal away, can it be very dangerous. Two small children her from flying glass. Another close call. This rocket hit a house. Hit a private house. You can see, the children. Children inside. Yeah. Children inside. Basically hezbollah with its activity, with its intermittent clashes is tying up Tens Of Thousands of Israeli Soldiers here as that Ground Incursion looms in the south. Probably what iran has in mind. Back to you. Charles thanks, greg. My next guest says he and a 3yearold ordinarily escape a Terror Incident in 2001. David rubin joins us now. I want your images on the release of these hostages. Two elderly women. Total of four. What are your thoughts . A total of four and about 225 to go. Look, hamas is looking for a Public Relations be plus for them. The fact is that they committed the worst massacre of jews since the holocaust. I dont use those words lightly, charles. You know, ive been on so many fox News Programs and other News Programs. Ive been talking about this for years about the terrorism from hamas, the terrorism from fattah. Its time to put an end to it. Most israelis agree that its time for an end it to. Thanks for mentioning that im the founder of the shiloh israel childrens fund. We have a website. Israelchildren. Org. People can go there. Israelchildren. Org and stand with us. Because the things that we have seen are so horrible. The trauma is going through the roof. The appeals, the references for treatment are sky rocketing. This is a very, very serious issue that is going to be with us for years, even if were very successful in this war and i hope we will be. Charles to that point, its heart breaking that the children living through this, watching this, knowing about this, seeing what happens to relatives, seeing what happens to neighbors, seeing what happens to friends, youve experienced this over and over again. Is it possible to truly rid all of the trauma out of someone that sees this at a young age . Its not so easy. I can tell you, from my family alone, and i can tell you from the hundreds, even thousands of Terror Victims that weve worked with, its very, very difficult. The trauma never totally goes away, but the children learn to contend with it. We use Music Therapy and art therapy and horses and small animals and Sports Therapy and horticulture therapy. All of these therapies together are Enter Mediatories that help the therapist to help the child. We have whole family therapies. Because if one child is wounded, then the whole family is affected. So again, i encourage people to go to israelchildren. Org and stand with us at this time. Charles i went to your website earlier. Everybody should go there. Its not just an appeal. But we see what youre asking for donations from. I like the series of videos, the attack, the answer, the results. You lived through this. Maybe to educate the public. Im not sure people understand the depth of the horror. The trauma is so deep, charles. As you pointed out accurately, it never totally goes away. But through the therapeutic programs we help the children to learn to contend with it and to move on and move forward in their lives. Charles thanks, david. Hope to see you again under better circumstances. Coming up next, bob menendez pleading not guilty on charges of acting as a Foreign Agent. Well have the latest on that. And Vivek Ramaswamy will be here with his plan to protect the u. S. Homeland. First, to hill i have vaughn on the new threat from the southern border. Hillary . Hi, charles. President biden is putting funding for Border Security in with his request for aid to israel, gaza and ukraine. Well have the details on what that money will go toward next. bridget with Thyroid Eye Disease i hid from the camera. And i wanted to hide from the world. For years, i thought my t. E. D. Was beyond help. But then i asked my doctor about tepezza. vo tepezza is the only medicine that treats t. E. D. At the source not just the symptoms. 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Congress members are not allowed to do that. Menendez is accused of secretly promising to take actions on behalf of the government of egypt in exchange for bribes. Hundreds of thousands of dollars in gold bars and cash. New photos show Senator Menendez meeting with egyptian officials and military officials alongside codefendants, his wife nadine and egyptian businessman will hana. Messages review officials made requests of Senator Menendez through hana and nadine. Prosecutor same menendez, former chairman of the Senate Foreign Relations Committee wielded his influence to ensure military, arms, and financing slowed to egypt. Gave egypt highly Sensitive Information on the numbers and nationalities of staff working at the u. S. Embassy in cairo and secretly ghost wrote a letter on behalf of egypt to try to convince u. S. Senators to release 300 million in aid. Menendez insists hes innocent, calling the new charge absurd, writing in part the facts havent changed. The government is engaged in primitive hunting by which the president or chases its prey until its exhausted and then kills it. This tactic wont work. A new poll finds 70 of new jersey voters believe Senator Menendez should resign. More than 30 Democratic Senators are also calling on him to step down but Chuck Schumer is not one of them, he has yet to call for his resignation. This trial is set to start may 6. If convicted of all four charges, he bases up to 50 years behind bars. Charles thank you very much, bryan llenas. The seven border, sources telling fox. More than 23,000 known gotaways since october 1st, adding to security concerns. Hillary vaughn with the latest. Hi charles hurt President Biden putting money for Border Security and with his request for aid to israel, gaza, and ukraine. Trying to make the 105 billion package easier for republicans to swallow. Even though some republicans want more money for the border, they are not planning on giving a divide without strings attached. A package that needs work but i think we can get it down. We need to make sure that the southern border part, the Border Security, Border Security and not sanctuary city money. Heres how biden wants to spend the nearly 14 billion. Money for silent officers. Judges, agents, holding facilities, migration centers, and state and local governments. Border security more than ever a concern over national security. Cbp announcing that in the past 12 months 169 people on the faas Terror Watch List illegally crossed the southern border. Highest level in six years. Department of Homeland Security releasing a Threat Assessment that warns individuals with Terrorism Connections are interested in using Established Travel Routes and permissive environments to facilitate access to the United States and the fbi director telling fox lone wolf attacks are on their radar. We are particularly vigilant to the possibility that lone actors here in the United States could in some way out of inspiration, misguided inspiration that they draw from the conflict in the middle east conduct attacks against jewish americans, muslim americans, houses of worship, institutions. Cvp field office has sent out this internal overton telling officers to be on the lookout for any hamas or hezbollah terrorists coming over the border, showing them uniform patches to look out for. Charles. Charles thank you very much. As israel prepares for a Ground Invasion into gaza, 2024 president ial candidate Vivek Ramaswamy. The question whether its going to succeed during that discussion on x, formerly known as twitter. Hes here now to explain his concerns particularly at the Ground Invasion is imminent. Making a lot of headlines as usual, vivek. Lets talk about this. First and foremost, i want to talk about the notion they would be a mistake to bundle any aid to israel with ukraine aid. Its an outright mistake designed to sidestep debate on the merits on both questions. Right now its in times of war or prudential war that we need open debate the most. Thats how you got it in iraq, afghanistan. 6. 5 trillion in those cases, thousands of innocent american lives sacrificed. What end. The taliban is still in charge 20 years later in afghanistan. Hostile antiamerican regime in iraq. How did we get there . Avoiding open debate on the merits. Thats what we need and these need to be debated individually. Its clear they are using, sadly, the hamas attacks on israel which were dead wrong and catastrophic, as a trojan horse to pump through over 60 billion of additional investment into the ukraine were that otherwise would have no chance of passing. Thats wrong. Ive been calling out very clearly. One of the reasons im against it. Charles that part is relatively transparent, to your point. That was the ukraine funding that was really starting to dry up on the vine on capitol hill. Of course the democrats always say never let a crisis go to waste. Why do you think theyre such insistence from lawmakers on both sides of the aisle . Limited amounts of money to ukraine. Its boneheaded and misguided. A lot of lawmakers from a prior generation of leadership belief that we are still in the old cold war. When in fact heres a news flash i have to those republicans and democrats alike, the ussr does not exist anymore. Our top threat is communist china. Im warning that our policies towards russia are driving russia further into chinas hands. That russiachina alliance is the real threat we face. Now as you see rising conflict in the middle east, i worry we are sleepwalking our way into world war iii. I want americans to hear me loud and clear when i say this. Our Homeland Defense is our as vulnerable as we have ever been. Order defenses, Missile Defenses and otherwise. If we sleepwalk our way to world war iii, the u. S. Could it be at serious risk of existence. Charles you said it loud and clear. Are you against aiding israel . Do you have conditions for aiding israel . Conditions is the answer. Its the job of a good friend and ally the u. S. To play its role for israel to clearly identify what exactly are its objectives in gaza. Exactly how its going to achieve success. Exactly what comes after. Charles we have less than 4 minutes so i dont want to be rude with you. If you were commander in chief and they said hey, this is what we want to achieve, would they have to clear but would you have to say okay, im good with these . Before you sign off on aid . Some things you didnt agree with. You would not agree to aid unless they proceeded in a way that you thought was right, not a way theyd been planning perhaps for decades. You wouldnt allow them to seek their own solution to this . But you want the United States to govern how this goes . I want to be very clear, charles for they are free to pursue their national selfdefense. Part of the u. S. s role is diplomatic one. When it comes to u. S. Involvement in that war, significant Financial Investment or military support of other kinds i do think its the job of the u. S. To make sure of the objectives are clearly defined so the u. S. Can understand, here are the objectives we are supporting versus here are the objectives we arent. I think this would be in israels best interest. Thats not an antiisrael statement. Its pro israel. I worry israel may make some of the same mistakes we did in the post 9 11 era in this country. I dont want to see israel make those mistakes. Its their job to make their decisions. Charles theres a big difference between americans being bogged down in afghanistan and iraq literally millions of miles away and battling terror that lives on your border. Two distinct differences. Two distinct approaches. Heres the cascade i worry about. Israel is mired in a ground war in gaza. Thats what hezbollah seizes the opportunity to attack from the north. If they are in a two front war, theres no way the u. S. Cannot get involved. Militias have said thats the redline if the u. S. Gets involved to hit u. S. Targets in the middle east. Keep in mind we have our biggest embassy in baghdad. That mires us in a longer longterm conflict in the middle east. I dont think that would advance u. S. Interests and i dont think it would advance israeli interests either. My view is now is the moment for open debate on the merits. We have to understand what are the clear objectives for success . We need clear answers to that question to avoid disaster. Charles its probably too late. Israel has our hands full. They probably wouldnt have time for such a debate but i understand that a president ramaswamy would speak tough on the Military Industrial Goblets and i think Young Americans feel the same way. Is there anyway to stop it. Its gotten so large that everyone talks tough but they still rubberstamp those bud budgets. Here are some basic solutions, zerobased budgeting. Start with zero is the baseline, not last years budget. Start with zero and build up whats necessary. If you observed in government, you cant lobby that government for over ten years. If you served as a regulator or done business with the Defense Industry or anybody, you cant serve On The Boards of those companies. End the corruption. I dont think its a Republican Point our democratic point. Its a winning message for the Republican Party but its going to take an outsider, frankly an outsider from a different generation to reach young voters and bring the men. Thats what im doing the think we are going to be successful. Charles i really appreciate your conversation. Sorry were running out of time. Thank you. Thank you. Charles tomorrow neil will be back you can catch me on fox business. Making money at 2 00 p. M. Eastern. The five starts now. Hello, everyone

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