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Administration trying to save face . Were on top of stunning developments that has joseph biden doing a 180 from something he said on the campaign from no wall, no way, no how to now saying yeah. Maybe. Maybe we start pursuing just that. Jeff paul in eagle pass, texas with the latest. Jeff . Yeah, neil. When youre out here and you see these big groups like we did yesterday, a group of 300 people cross the rio grande and enter the United States, its overwhelming. You remind yourself, this is just a small snapshot of the thousands that do that same thing on a daily basis. That might be in part the reason why the Biden Administration is now going to waive 26 federal laws in order to essentially build border wall, restart it when they had previously already stopped it. This 20mile stretch of border wall will be going in in the Rio Grande Valley in south texas. Secretary of Homeland Security, Alejandro Mayorkas said theres an acute and immediate need to construct physical barriers at this stretch of the border that is seeing high illegal entry. When you watch the scenes like this one, those that have long pushed for Border Security measures say more wall is needed. These are images that emerged today. It appears to be shot from the mexican side of the border in juarez. The group was reportedly rushing to the border fence in el paso. We got this video in showing charter buses leaving el paso last night. The Bus Supervisor says the majority of folks are migrants that were in cbp custody. They were headed to denver and los angeles next and not staying in el paso. So today Secretary Of State Antony Blinken and Alejandro Mayorkas are in mexico city speaking with counter parts on how the two countries can Work Together on a model that will lead to some solutions. A model that pairs the historic expansion of safe orderly and lawful pathways for migrants to come directly to the United States or elsewhere to obtain humanitarian relief outside the smugglers grip with strict consequences for those that dont use the lawful means to enter our country. Those buses we showed you earlier, just another example of how this border crisis isnt just impacting the small border towns but its impacting larger cities like los angeles, denver and new york city. Thats why mayor eric added a adams is going to talk about why his city is at full capacity, neil. Neil thanks, jeff. As jeff was wrapping up, were learning the u. S. Will resume deporting migrants back to venezuela. This is coming via the associated press. Peter doocy says they have not reversed anything. Peter . Neil, the president and his dhs secretary are on opposite sides of this. Alejandro mayorkas is saying theres an urgent need for more border wall. President biden is saying no, theres not. The Border Wall Works . No. Top down, officials here insist that congress is giving them no choice. You want us to not be an administration that follows the rules . The Student Loans forgiveness program, you went to court to fight for that. If this is such a problem building 20 miles of wall, why not just go to court . We continue to congress. The Congress Appropriates the funding why not Congress Appropriates the funding. We ask them to not use that funding for that particular purpose. They denied it. Now were complying with the law. Shes right. The administration did ask congress in 2021. The administration is reiterating its call for congress to cancel funds that appropriated for Border Barrier Project so these resources can instead be used for modern effective Border Management measures to improve safety and security. But as the Press Secretary claims this president is always working to keep campaign promises, this appears to be a broken one from before and after the election. No, there will not be another foot of wall constructed on my administration. The border wall is not an effective policy. But now that is the policy. Neil . Neil all right. Peter doocy at the white house. Thank you. Just some details on this wall. Its about 20 miles aloaning the rio grande but it will not cover the territory my next guest wants, his own back yard. Wayne king is a texas rancher dealing with problems, the surge of hundreds, thousands. Many just walk through and over his property. As i understand it, wayne, this wall will not block the area nearest your ranch. What does that mean for you . Just means more infiltration of the immigrants. Neil so more headaches for you. Absolutely. I mean, it costing me more than most people can even imagine. I mean, ive got 22 miles of fence i have to check every day because they cut holes in my fences to go through. Were an all african game hunting ranch. I probably lost over 250,000 in revenue with my game getting out because of it. Neil so wayne, what do you make of the administrations about face . You just heard from the white house that theyre not calling this a reversal but clearly they have reversed a policy that used to be not another inch of wall and to stop what donald trump was doing when he was president. So are you at least encouraged by this move and it might mean more than just these 20 miles . Absolutely not. All this is a political stunt. He finds himself down in the polls. What else new york and a few of the other socalled cities of where theyre sending them have put pressure on the administration. So hes sees his name go down in the polls. Here we go. Lets try to do something. This aint going to work. Neil wayne, let me ask you. Well be hearing from the secretary state, Antony Blinken, Alejandro Mayorkas, the Homeland Security secretary. Theyre in mexico city. Presumably theyre trying to persuade mexican officials to do more than they have been doing. What do you think of that . Do you think mexico has been doing anything to help alleviate the kind of stuff that youre dealing with . Neil, its hard to even say. The cartels control mexico as it is. So nothing is going to get done. I dont know what they think they can do. It just fascinates me that not too long ago, mayorkas and the Biden Administration says the border is secure. Now all of a sudden the polls go down for him so now we have a problem . I mean, it doesnt take a Rocket Scientist to figure this out. Neil i wonder what might have prompted this change. Better late than never again. You have your doubts as you probably should given your experiences. I wonder if the pressure was exerted on the part of democrats like eric adams in new york, kathy hochul in new york, governors like Gavin Newsome in california saying this is a problem, you have to do something about it. You think that is what changed . Its one thing to look at polls. When many prominent figures say fix this i can understand new york. Theyre getting a good dose of it from us. You know, they whine about what theyre getting. We get that daily here what they have up there right now. We get it daily. I can understand new york crying about it. Gavin newsome, im having a hard time with that one. Yeah, im sure theres a few democrats putting pressure on him. But still, im going to hold to my facts. Its all about the polls. Until the recent polls where he shows hes going down, nothing has been said about it. Its always been under control. Its secure. Now within two or three days its not . No. Neil doesnt make sense, does it . If youre right. If its secure, you wont have two prominent cabinet officials in mexico city to talk to the press to detail this. Wayne king, hang in there. Youve been dealing with a lot. Thanks very much. All right. A couple of things were following as well. News that donald trump himself will be meeting with republicans in the house to talk about what is going on in the house, the search for a speaker there had been talk that the house might consider donald trump himself to fill that role. Were on that after this. With the freestyle libre 2 system know your Glucose Level and where its headed without fingersticks. Manage your diabetes with more confidence and lower your a1c. Its covered by medicare for those who qualify. Ask your doctor about the freestyle libre 2 system. Aah, its a good day to cough. Oh, no bye, bye cough. Later Chest Congestion. Hello 12 hours of relief. 12 hours . hmmm, ok. Not coughing at yoga. Antiquing not coughing . Not coughing at the movies . hashtag still not coughing . aaah. Oww mucinex dm gives you 12 hours of relief from Chest Congestion and any type of cough, day or night. Its not cough season. Its always comeback season. If you want energy, flexibility, and improved health, look at lmmuno150. 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One senior House Republican said the former president showing up at the meeting is the last things the party needs now. The member says mr. Trumps Presence Sows Chaos when the gop needs order. Marjorie Taylor Greene supports mr. Trump for speaker. Some republicans are concerned about the health of scalise, who is suffering from cancer. They ask how they can support scalise when they raise questions about the fitness of President Biden. Chad, your making strong points that people are quietly talking about. I like Steve Scalise. Hes a friend. By cancer is very serious. Fox is told it could take days for weeks to elect a new speaker. Theres worry about the integrity of the house and funding the government in november if the house is not operational. Im skeptical that we can get five or eight of these guys together and support where the majority of the conference wants to go. If we do, well have problems again next month when we have to teal with this 45day continuing resolution. A foot note on former President Trump. House rules suggest that lawmakers should not be in leadership positions if they face a felony indictment. Theres a gray area here. The speaker does not need to be a member of the house. Neil . Neil chad, you know, no matter who wins or gets this, were still dealing with the same narrow margins that the republicans have in the house. Theres a separate issue. Whoever is chosen will not align themselves to this right to vacate that would allow a Single Member to push them out. How actively is that being championed . Well, theres a lot of talk right now, ro khanna, who i talked to earlier, has been communicating with matt gaetz to change that, maybe gets some Horse Trading to alter that equation. It just depends if somebody pushes the mtv, the motion to vacate. I want my mtv. If somebody wants it the way it has been, thats the problem. Thats why Kevin Mccarthy is no longer the speaker of the house. Martha do we know what Kevin Mccarthys plans are now . There have been some that have suggested that he might get some have his name in a nomination at some point. I wouldnt be surprised if Somebody Votes for him at that stage. He will continue to be a Rank And File member. Keep in mind, we have former House Speaker nancy pelosi as a member of the body right now, this is the first time that anybody can tell that we have two former House Speakers serving in the institution, which is the case right now. You know, ive seen some speakers serve a period of time and leave. That was the case with dennis hastert. We had joe martin, same rayburn. Joe martin is from massachusetts. He went back to being the Minority Leader. Same rayburn was the speaker and the Minority Leader and came back for a longer period as speaker. I dont think that will happen with Kevin Mccarthy. I will say theres a lot of sympathy for him on his side of the aisle. Neil thanks, chad. So you know the two prominent names, Steve Scalise and jim jordan. Theres others, one in particular that could join that race and make it interesting. Well talk to him. Hes next. Everyone feel at home this season. Thats why with Hisense Appliances, you can get a lot more, without spending a lot more. Because the only thing better than scoring quality appliances is the quality time that follows. Shop Hisense Appliances now, exclusively at lowes. I was stuck. Unresolved Depression Symptoms were in my way. I needed more from my antidepressant. Vraylar helped give it a lift. Adding vraylar to an antidepressant. Is clinically proven to help relieve overall Depression Symptoms. Better than an antidepressant alone. And in vraylar clinical studies, most saw no substantial impact on weight. Elderly dementia patients have increased risk of death or stroke. Report unusual changes in behavior or suicidal thoughts. Antidepressants can increase these in children and young adults. 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Ive spent over 30 hours meeting with members, talking on the phone with members, listening to what they need to see in the next speaker so we can reunify and move the conference together and the country together. So when i get through with the calls, i make that decision. I want my decision based on what 221 republicans have given input into. Neil the walk is that you have made it. Mike mccaul, the republican colleague from texas has said you have told the delegation there that you indeed do intend to run. I certainly laid out my plan to the texas delegation. Its the largest delegation in the country. He was so excited about what i had to say, maybe he wanted me to run. Neil you mentioned the math here and getting the votes. No matter who gets them, youll still have a narrow caucus in your favor. That makes it sometimes a suicidal mission. Doesnt it . Look what happened to Kevin Mccarthy. Say you know, could happen again. We have such a narrow majority here, it could happen again. Well, neil, i spent 35 years in business before i came here running very large organizations, businesses that i created and had thousands of employees. Theres a lot of people that say the status quo on how people become speaker has to change if were going to change the direction of this country. Im willing to take on that task. We have to come out unified next wednesday with a speak tore hit the ground running. We have so much to do for this country and a short time to do it. Neil what did you think of how the mccarthy thing was handled . Certainly it was a troubling time. A historic time. Not one that at the end of the day well be proud of. Either side is not proud of it. We have to move forward now. Looking backward, you get your experiences and use that to create a brighter future. Thats what i intend to do if i take this leap. Make sure that we reunify our party to get conservative ideas pushed so we can push back on joe biden and the democrats. They have an open boarder, inflation, Energy Policy and Economic Situation that is terrible for the American People. Neil so youre not among the eight in your party that voted against Kevin Mccarthy. What do you think of the eight that did . Youd have to ask them. Neil ive talked to half of them. They still stand by that. What do you think of them . Some of your colleagues that didnt go that route in fact supported Kevin Mccarthy said that what they did was impulsive andchildish and ruined this for the party. What do you say . You can look at my record. I have never talked ill about any member of the Republican Party. Im a Ronald Reagan guy that started my First Business under Ronald Reagan. I believe in the 11th Commandment of the Republican Party. We dont speak ill will of each other. I take those lessons to move forward to make a better leader out of it. I know what you say about speaking ill of others. These admirable. Youre true to your word. The fact of the matter is, youre in the minority there. A lot of republicans speak ill including guy that urged republicans to stop fighting with each other, donald trump himself. Yeah, neil, i appreciate that. Again, thats not how ive always operated to move my businesses forward. I learned early on making others look small so i can look tall is not the way i operate. Ly look hard to listen to the pem and formulate ago plan going forward. When i put my hand in the ring, its because ive listened to 221 republicans and i formulated a plan that i think i can keep my promise to make that happen for the American People because it is the American People that will suffer if we dont get this Republican Park back in charge. Neil you have to win over some of the eight. Jim jordan has expressed an interest in doing that. He has a Good Relationship with matt gaetz. I dont know if thats true. In the middle of this, donald trump is coming to capitol hill to meet with the gop conference yourself. What do you think of that . Ive been a longtime supporter of donald trump. Hes endorsed me, ive endorsed him. Look what hes done, my great state of oklahoma, all 77 counties voted for him twice. Hes beloved in oklahoma. I too love him. Im a business guy. Neil what about making him speaker . Youd have to ask him that. I know he set that aside. Certainly we need something to reunify the party. Thats what were working for neil if you cant agree amongst yourselves, he did quasi entertain it. Im wondering even on a temporary basis would you be open to that . A good idea . Certainly i would ask the president if he wants to do it. I have not talked to him. Ill tell you why he says he will do that is because he doesnt see it that tough. Why he doesnt see it that tough, he will listen to the people as hes always done and put together an agenda that moves the ideas of the American People forward. So if we keep this focus on the American People and not on us as individuals, a lot of things become much easier. Thats what he sees, what he did with this country. He sees the subset of the House Of Representatives as something easier than what he did in the country. Neil so this sniping at each other all the way up to donald trump and the other candidates that give it back to him, you see Cease And Desist on all . Well, certainly just getting our arms around whats going on. We have to stop fighting with one another and point our arrows at the democrat party. Theyre one revelling in the chaos right now as they described it. I think its the Sausage Making going on that we see in a democracy a and the American People get to see it in real time. Neil so tomorrow youll announce youre running for speaker . As soon as i plow through the calls. I was on the phone before i came here and keep calling people. Neil i thought i would get you on a weak moment. Thanks, congressman. So it could be a crowded feel. We shall see. Getting the latest on this division or sniping going on by the wayed, democrats have it as well. Republicans, too. The georgia governor, brian kemp is very concerned about it and the message it is sending. He thinks its a winnable election if none of them did that. Icy hot. Ice works fast. Heat makes it last. Feel the power of contrast therapy. So you can rise from pain. Icy hot. This is your season to smile to gather together and discover the moments that matter, to jump into the fun and join in the celebration. To help get you ready, your aspen dental team is celebrating 25 years of Affordable Care with an epic anniversary savings event. Right now, new patients without insurance get a free full exam and xrays. Plus, everyone can get 20 off their treatment plan. But hurry, because while the season wont last, the memories you make together will. Aspen dental. Book today. The chewy app has everything for pets. 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Next week, 120,000 high school seniors, public and Private School will receive a letter saying youve been accepted to either our Technical College institutions in georgia or University System schools depending on their gpa match. Students know that theyll get accepted. They still have to enroll. Its a way for us to reach every child in our state and also make sure that the households know about the opportunities that we have here in georgia for higher education. Neil does it matter what their major is . Can you break it down . Well, this whole thing, neil we have a lot of great kids coming out of the University System and Technical College schools every year. Its one of the reasons weve been named the number 1 state for business for the tenth year in a row, which we announced a couple days ago. People are coming here because of our work force. We have so many good projects coming and having jobs of the future that we have to fill those jobs in two or three years. We have to reach out and get ahold of the kids that may not be getting the job training that can get in one of them good paying jobs with great benefits to help the companies that we have here in georgia and those coming. So this program is designed to do that. Its an amazing amount of work by a lot of different people that normally dont get out of their silo when you think about our University System, Technical College system. Georgia students finance. We have the Hope Scholarship and hope grant where people can to to school in georgia tuitionfree. We have to make sure these kids and their caregivers or parents know about the options that they have to fill the Work Force Needs of the future. Neil what is smart about this, governor, it goes president rely on addressing the bills after the fact or paying off Students Loans after the fact what do think of the president s proposal . Its a very different approach. Its ticking people off. What do you think . Well, im sure it will be legally challenged just like the last program was. He continues to act like a dictator instead of a president and continues to pick winners and losers in washington d. C. Like they did with the so called inflation reduction act. Helping the big three that are now on strike. Penalizing Companies Like hyundai and rivian that are coming to The Great State Of Georgia and kia that is expanding here. The people are furious about that. Neil lets go to the drama on capitol hill. Im sure youre aware, Kevin Mccarthy gets kicked out, a Renegade Group locking the agenda of congress. Some republicans are worried about it. Are you worried about it . Its a distraction. Thats one thing ive worked people around. We cant get distracted. We need to stay focused on what the American People want. Ive been staying focused on what is Helping Georgians get through 40year high biden inflation. Bidenomics is costing people more. Were doing Kitchen Table things here like suspending the gas tax to save people 31 cents a gallon or 35 cents a gallon on diesel. We just did Property Tax Relief when people are getting their tax bills right now, the average georgian that owns a home is getting a 500 break on the Property Taxes to help them when they go to the Grocery Store and other things, high Interest Rates because of bad policies of this administration. Really what is happening in d. C. Now instead of republicans talking about having a bill that secures the border and reduces ridiculous government spending, theyre having a speaker fight. Neil lets address what the big fight is. The party of donald trump. Hes a runaway leader in the polls. Its just polls. Not a Single Person has voted. Thats his race to lose. Those that have challenged him on the credentials, folks like ron desantis are fading. What do you think of that . I wouldnt say people are fading. Theres some people in the race that are surging. A long way to go. I wouldnt pay too much attention to national polls. I think what will matt or is what is happening in iowa on the ground right now. What is happening in new hampshire, what will happen in South Carolina and nevada and super tuesday. Nobody has voted yet. My wife says all the time, they hadnt called to ask me what i think. So i think thats a lot of posturing on all the campaigns, which is part of it. Neil would you worry if it were donald trump . A lot of people have urged you to run. They think you have not only what you have done in georgia but to fight those trying to get rid of you. Dating back to the georgia recount. You have certainly the cred. Are you tempted when you look at this . Well, ive told a lot of people, neil, we didnt get distracted in georgia against a tough primary opponent, including somebody that had President Trumps support. We didnt get extracted facing the toughest democrat in the country. We stayed focus on Helping Georgians. Thats what the folks running for president need to do. My opinion is we have too many people in the race right now. So well see what happens. Neil so you dont want to add to that too many people for the time being . That would be another distraction that i think would take away from our ability to consolidate and win and beat joe biden. Ive told you before, we got to tell people what were for, stay focused on the future and have to have a candidate that can win. Neil all right. Georgia Governor Brian Kemp. Then the division among democrats that the talk that rfk junior is considering an independent run. I wonder what Marianne Williamson thinks of that, too. Shes been critical of the Democratic Party that r. F. K. Jr. Could leave. Thats next. H. Hmmm. The firstever lexus rx plugin hybrid. Zyrtec works hard at hour 1 and twice as hard when you take it again the next day. So betty can be the. Barcode beat conductor. 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Theres another entrantd in that democratic race who is kind enough to join us right now. Marian williamson, a 2024 democratic candidate in her own right. Very good to have you back with us. Thank you. Nice to be with you. I appreciate you having me. Neil what do you think what Bobby Kennedy jr. Is consider something. Sandra . Politics is part science, part art. Part gut call. Listen, i celebrate democracy. I celebrate people being in the arena. He needs to do what he feels is best for him. Neil the argument has gone from the people you talk to, it wouldnt be a case of him leaving the party but the party having long ago left him. I catch up and hear your remarks the other day, i think at dartmouth where you said the Democratic Party hope im quoted correctly is guided by the corporate element of the Party Represented by joe biden. You went on to say the partys Business Ties are a form of economic tyranny and our Governing Principal is no longer democracy. You sound like someone that is dissatisfied with the Democratic Party. A lot of democrats and republicans say i didnt leave my party, my party left me. Im holding on because i believe in the traditional values of the Democratic Party. The parties that i grew up with are so different an they exist now. Many people within the Republican Party and the Democratic Party are holding on, trying to court correct. I think this has to do with whether corporate profits should be the Governing Principal or democratic and humanitarian values should be our Governing Principal. The democratics parties are the advocacy for the working people of the United States. Im holding on to that. Many people within the Democratic Party are holding on to that and trying to course correct so the party with help court correct the nation. Neil the party is doing little to help you or include you in debates much like they dont want to include robert f. Kennedy jr. In debates. Are you fighting heart for a party and a people that dont like you . Well, look, The Way Bobby has described the situation is not inaccurate. Hes decision has been to apparently bolt and go independent. Thats not like i said, some of this is gut call. Thats not what my heart is leading me to do. Theres one thing that can override corruption. We need a revolution at the ballot box. Part of the problem is when any Political Party stands in front of the people. The Political Parties need to stand in the back, let the people decide who should be the candidate, who should be the nominee and the parties should come in. What is happening right now is the dnc has overtly indicated that it sees its job as helping joe biden get elected. So it has made the effort to suppress any other candidacy. That was a problem for bobby and its a problem for me. But like i said, right now im holding on. Right now im staying where im staying. Neil got it. What did you think of the administration clear its an about face on the border and the border wall and being open to that and now returning venezuelans that now try to get into this country back to their country. It is a 180. What do you think . Well, the president is saying that this was money that was allocated by congress. Hes saying he wanted it to be reallocated. He didnt have the Legal Authority to do that. Neil do you really buy that . I mean, i wasnt born yesterday. When you say you changed your mind, say you changed your mind. John f. Kennedy taught us that thats okay to do. Bill clinton with the welfare to work thing, he fought that. When it was proceeding quite well, he not only joined the parade but he led it. You think the president is misrepresenting that he just did A Change Of Heart, its okay to have A Change Of Heart . I dont know. I have no way of knowing. Maybe we will know. What im interested in is the issue of the wall itself. Do you just build a wall in this situation, you have 2,000 miles of border here. If we build a wall, were treating the symptom, not the call. What i will do as president is deal with the root cause problems here. Why are people so desperate that theyre leaving the countries that theyre in . Neil a wall helps . Only temporarily. Neil others have recognized that. You have to start and deal with it, right . Ill tell you something, neil, if people want to, theyll build tunnels. Thats not your fundamental permanent answer. We have to address these root causes. Some of these root causes have to do with some of our sanctions. If were keeping the sanctions in cuba, keeping our sanctions in venezuela, which are not having the desired effect. Theyre not hurting the people neil all those were in effect mrs. Williamson during the trump administration. The only difference is it was pushing and building a wall and the numbers are lot smaller than today. Whats wrong with addressing getting at the root causes but in the meantime, dealing with what has been a surge unlike anything weve ever seen to deal with it simultaneously . For a fraction of the money that we spend on that wall, it is established. If we fix our asylum system, spend a fraction of that money neil the money is allocated and agreed to. See what happens, right . Now youre agreeing with biden said. Neil hes sayings that the reason for changing his mind. I think its fair to say its probably not the reason. If the money is allocated and a lot of this stuff was sitting for years rotting, what is wrong with putting it to good use and still addressing what you want to address . What i want to address is the fact that if you could spend a fraction of that money, fix the asylum system. Its been established if you spend money helping these people, helping them become established in this country as legal citizens, dont make it so difficult neil we spend billions helping people from mexico and South America to little avail. Let me finish. Neil sure. What im talking about, its established within a year, these people are selfsufficient. Theyre contributing to the economy. Theyre contributing to the economy in ways that Native Americans are not interesting in doing. We need to find a better way. We cant treat symptom. We need to look at the war on drugs. These drug cartels lets not forget the party that the drug cartels play in creating this horror and violence that people are seeking to escape. If we think about americas war on drugs, well take away a lot of their black market. Thats the kind of thing we neil so bottom line, no wall for you. Youre sticking with the Democratic Party. I dont think the Democratic Party is saying what i just said to you. Neil no. 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Whoever the nominee is seems donald trump at this point but that could change, whoever the nominee is is going to hit President Biden on this and this is a way that President Biden can point and say look what i did and democrats can try to defend themselves on this matter but its amazing this is happening today because we know that new york mayor eric adams has been touring the border. Thats remarkable to see someone who is a democratic mayor who has been on the Receiving End of migrants going to the border seeing what its been like firsthand down there. You know why not learn from some of the more successful democratic president s, john f. Kennedy the bay of pigs saying this is on me. He could have pointed the finger at others. He didnt. Bill clinton with the welfare to work thing. He was opposed to it. Not only did he join that afraid with newt gingrich. He tried to embrace it. Why not run with it . I think the time we are living with the time that joe biden is president its just so much more polarized than it was during the clinton and kennedy administrations and i think we live in an era of sound bites where its easy to point the finger and say this is what you said before, this is an about face so its difficulty think at this day and age to really say you were right and go along with it. Well, i still blame everyone for every problem but i take credit for everything good we do. Me too. No you dont do that but thank you very much. Julie manchester following that. I love when i get to talk to financial titans including ray dalio running the Largest Hedge Fund in history. His view where we stand on fox business a good chunk of it on this show tomorrow the five now